96 - You Could Make the Pant Legs Ten Feet Wide, and You'd Still See Those Ass Cheeks Cutting Through the Fabric (S12E20 Totem) - Munch My Benson: A Law & Order: SVU Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
No doubt about it. Your killer is a sexual predator.
Marny was raped, freshly torn, hymen blood present in the
vaginal canal.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Me the son of a bitch left his DNA.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
I wish, no fluids, hairs or skin cells, and no
signs of lubricant. He must have used some kind of
foreign object and it had to be something smooth so.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
The proverty couldn't rise to the occasion.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
He has to sodomis cause of death. Traumatic asphyxia found
petikia in the conduct diva and cotton and polyester fibers
in her lungs and airways. She was suffocated with.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
What the pillar her head was resting on. Doster Jackson, Elliot, Olivia.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yeap, what are you doing here?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Covering for long?

Speaker 5 (00:45):
George was kind enough to give me some consulting work
with the FBI when my clinic folded.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
He's presenting at a conference. Guy in Washington asked me
to fill.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
In, So what are we looking at?

Speaker 5 (00:56):
Someone who made sure Omani was resting comfortably before he
had found it.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
You wrapped her in silk sheets.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Out at the bottom of one, talk to her in
with the other. Along with this.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
In New York City, sexually based offenses are considered especially heinous.
These are their stories. Hey guys, welcome too much, My Benson.
My name is Adam. I am here in New York
where it's cold. It's winter. Things are a little weird

(01:51):
around here. I am, of course joined on the line
by my good buddy Josh. How are things up in
the North Country.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Josh, it's been cold.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Didn't you have a day? Is it is it today?
Where the high was below zero fahrenheit?

Speaker 3 (02:06):
That was yesterday today. When I got in the car
to go get bagels in Minneapolis, I had to drive
the closest Saint Paul bagelry is their ovens getting repaired replaced,
so I had to drive to the Minneapolis location. They're
just two. There's one in Roseville and one in Minneapolis.
So the Minneapolis one is like twenty five miles. But

(02:27):
I was like, no, fuck that, I want these bagels
as yeah, yeah, you know, it's New York bagels.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
It's like a significant upgrade from Einstein's.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yes, yeah, yeah, it's not just bread. It's not just
bread in a bagel.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Shit nice.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
This is like full harder outside when you toast it
the insides, you know, it's it's got the like the
crust has the tear away the Yeah, it's got the
it's the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
To boil it.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, yep, yep, it's definitely boiled it. I mean it's
they build themselves as New York bagels. I mean it's
obviously not. You know, this a New York.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Water what apparently the Montreal baggles are better. Anyways, I
don't have any anyway to know.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
You don't have access to Montreal, but they call them baggles.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Josh up there.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
They do a lot of things weird there. Fucking they
speak some weird bastard French. Anyway, So uh yeah, I
got in the car and I did that, and when
I got out to the car, the dash thermometer said
it was negative too. Oh God, and the car. I
like to complain about our outback because uh, when did

(03:35):
you guys get an outback last spring?

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Nice?

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, everybody's we have two cars now we have two.
We have my we have my like five Toyota Clara
or maybe it's No. Four that I bought from Drew
because my car was in an accident. Some jerk off
like turned left across my lane of traffic from oncoming,
and you know, I was driving a civic. He was
in a fucking army truck, and so you can imagine

(04:00):
that my civic didn't farewell.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
But he wasn't actually like driving on behalf of the
army was.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
He No, And he wasn't insured exactly. I get a
letter like every six month from Progressive saying that they're
still trying to get me money for that.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Oh well, I'm sure that's going to come through for
you someday.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah, totally. Well, I mean I've been sort of lucky
and just had money fall into my lap for the
last like year and a half, so it probably actually
will happen because I'm kind of like Parker Lewis. I guess, Yeah,
I mean I guess I had to move home and
live with in laws who were gracious enough to host us.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah, but I mean you're living rent free, right yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, it's great in my mind, as well
as your in law's house, you know.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yes, so we.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Josh Dugan, can't lose.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
No, exactly. So we've got the Toyota, which was like
parked in and that's got heated seats. It heats up fast.
It's fucking awesome. It's got a new Sterea with a
backup cam. Yeah, it's great. This Like I always tell
Jackie that my shitty car with two hundred and seventy
thousand miles or however much it hass is better than her.

(05:11):
It is better than her new like twenty fifteen or fourteen.
The outback.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
She doesn't have heated seats on that thing.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
That sucks.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Man.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
No, my mom's outback has a heated steering wheel.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, this does not. You know how I know it
doesn't because I had to drive with one of my
hands in my jacket pocket for the first ten minutes
that I was driving to get bacos this morning.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
You have to have driving mittens for that thing.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Josh, I lost. Okay, So obviously we don't like have
all of our stuff here. So I had a pair
of gloves. I don't know where one of the gloves is,
so it's kind of like why even why even use
the one anyway.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
If only there were places in the Greater Minneapolis Saints.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, but I'd have to go. I'd have to go
into a store, which we both know I'm not going
to do.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
To be fair, I understand your plight, like I only
go into stores because they are less than fifteen steps
from my house, right, Like I can get gloves at
Dwayne Reed if I need to, and probably across the
street at the hardware store too. Yeah, yesterday hear it
got up to almost forty So that's why I took
Duke and Noses. But I took Max and bandit over
to Roosevelt Island, which was at one point where there

(06:24):
was a smallpox sanitarium. So there's a really cool, like
kind of ruined building from that there. And it's the
way I think of it is, if you've ever been
to a kind of European city's fairly large and fairly
prosperous suburbs, that's what Roosevelt Island feels like. There's hardly
any traffic, there's decent transit connections to it, but it's

(06:49):
very strange and very empty. And so we're over there,
there's like nobody there, and it's technically in Manhattan, which
is a very odd feeling. It's been a few times
in the last week that I've had this like this
strange absence of other random assholes that are walking at
me from an odd direction or going too slow in
front of me because I went to.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
A which is your entire life other.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Basically, yeah, I went to this. There's like a fairly
suburban target that we can get to on the bus
that has way more than our urban target. That's here's
the Adam's grocery segment. But the experience of being on
these aisles with nobody like where I can just like
stop on the aisle and there's not some jerk off
who works for an app who's like trying to push

(07:33):
me out of the way, or some old lady that
desperately needs the bag of chips that I'm standing right
next to.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Sure, yeah, you're just getting inundated by task.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Round, Yes exactly. Anyways, that was weird. So I realized
that I'm gonna have to like deprogram if I ever
leave this place, which you know, who knows. But I
think we should get to this. I have a feeling
that we can finish this episode fast if we are
we kind of if we don't do what we did
last week and go off every fucking rail we are talking.

(08:08):
First off, I guess you're drinking anything, Josh?

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Sure, yeah, got myself a bullet RYE rocks.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Thanks for the Christmas present, Pops.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Actually, you know what I'm gonna I'm almost done with
my founders all day IPA and which is very you know,
obviously low alcohol content session ail. So I'm gonna pour
myself Jamison on the rocks and join you before we
get started with this.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Nice sounds good.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
So this week we are watching season twelve, episode twenty
to ten. All right, Lily and Sheila are running from
someone as if their lives depend on it. All hope
seems lost. He is gaining on them, then Shila whit's
out her cell phoned and he's about to plant his

(08:55):
pirate flag, so one of them leaves a treasure chest
to distract him from what we don't really know. They
start off running again, but after three steps, Lily trips
over a suitcase in face plants on the from my experience,
usually shit stained concrete sidewalks of New York City doing
that thing that everyone does here. When they find trash,

(09:18):
they stop what they're doing and decide to open the suitcase,
wherein they find the body of a ten year old girl,
Arnie Foster, who'd been reported missing the day before. The
sidewalk is in front of a Catholic church, but there's
no evidence of a crime scene anywhere in the vicinity,
so Benson gives a press conference in the hope that
someone will come forward with information. Luckily, a Parks Department
camera is found that allows us for you to find

(09:40):
out when the bag was dropped, but sadly, an untimely
box truck prevents them from seeing exactly who dropped it.
Warner then tells us the girl was raped with a
smooth foreign object and that the cause of death was asphyxia.
What was she smothered with, you might ask, que the
legendarily smooth Victensian voice of none other than the Scourge

(10:01):
of Falmut himself, Doctor Captain Jackson. It was the pillow
her head was resting on. He says his career has
taken a bit of a downturn since Elliott's forearm gun
show put the kaibosh and his sexual Deviant group therapy work,
but admirer George Wong has offered him some consulting work
with the FBI in the meantime, which I guess explains

(10:21):
why he was in the medical Examiner's office wearing a
lab coat and analyzing fiber samples from a high profile
victim without informing the investigating officers. Cap Jack MDPHD thinks
whoever stuffed Marni in the bag wanted her to feel comfortable.
She had a nice doll, silk sheets, a pillow, was
left in front of a church, and was heavily dosed
with sleeping pills. Clearly, the profile seems to fit your

(10:44):
classic pedo who maybe took things further than he wanted
to and killed her to cover up his mistake. The
SPUs round up the local sex offenders, but they all
have alibis. The doll hasn't been sold in over twenty
years and wasn't Marnie's. Next up, they look at Dad,
who'd been in Hawaii but flying back today. Maybe he
had an accomplice or something. So Finn and Benson drive

(11:04):
over to Susan's house, where they see a man argue
with Susan and shove her to the ground. Finnelle's police
and runs to the man to slow him down, only
to be met with a wild easily dodged haymaker. Finn
puts him in a wicked half, Nelson throws him on
top of a trash can and puts him in custody
for assault. The man's name is Chad. He's Susan's sometimes boyfriend,
and he has a police record for forcibly touching the

(11:24):
thirteen year old daughter of a previous girlfriend, who he
claimed came on to him. Benson calls out Susan for
lying about her whereabouts the day Marnie disappeared. Susan admits
that she was in bed in a cheap hotel with
her extremely shitty side piece. Doctor Capp has a wild theory,
what if the perpetrator is a woman. While the incidents
of female on female molestation cases are exceedingly rare, DCJ

(11:46):
is convinced he's treated women who did this, and yet
he's and yet he's perplexed. His patience had been manipulative sociopaths,
while whoever stuffed Marnie in that bag treated her with
a great degree of tenderness. Maybe the purpose a victim herself.
They need to track the owner of the perfect Penny doll.
The foster's maid tells Benson that Marnie would have gone

(12:06):
to piano lessons the day she disappeared. While you might
think that this would have been the first or second
question SVU would have asked upon learning of the girl's disappearance.
It certainly should have been the piano teacher June Fry,
lives in a massive brownstone that she'd inherited from her
dead parents, just around the corner from the Fosters. Miss
Fry is very upset about Marnie's death, tells Benson all

(12:28):
about her former student and how she had perfect posture
and loads of natural talent. After Capjack suggests the killer
might be mourning harder than anyone, they spot June in
tears bolting from Marnie's funeral. June had apparently called Susan
Foster to cancel Marnie's lesson the day of her death,
and her phone records showed that she'd canceled many other
lessons that afternoon. However, the absent minded school secretary at

(12:51):
Marney's school forgot to relay the message Susan left for
her daughter. The svus want to wait for a search warrant,
but DeCamp believes he can charm June into letting them
look about her havevernous mans for evidence of the crime.
She lets them in and goes to put a kettle on,
which is a cue for Elliott and cap Jay to
start rummaging throughout the house. The house appears to be
a time capsule from nineteen eighty nine, implying that time

(13:12):
its stopped for June back Then, continuing, they find hair
that seems to match perfect pennies, pillows that match those
found in the bag, and an overwhelming smell of bleach
in the basement. While Live compliments June's skills as a pianist,
Elliott and D. C. Jack rummaged through her trash and
find a suitcase matching the one containing Marnie. As Elliott
brandishes a wounded spoon, which was clearly the foreign object

(13:34):
that did the penetrating in this case, the piano stops
and he hears liv call for a bus. June has
suddenly collapsed. Jackson starts compressions, and Stabler pulls a jar
out of June's pocket of the same sleeping pills used
on Marne. As she comes to in the hospital, Benson
and Jackson try unsuccessfully to pry the truth out of June,
and with all the physical evidence ruined by the bleach,

(13:54):
the only hope for this investigation is for doctor Capp
to sweet talk the truth out of her. He tells
him she doesn't deserve to live. She was an only child,
her mother's little princess. She begins to break down when
he shows her Perfect Penny. Since doctor Capp is working
as an agent of the police, he starts treading on
thin ice when he blows off her request for a lawyer.
Through a nifty bit of brain twisting chicannery, he convinces

(14:17):
June to cancel her request for legal counsel. To get
her to drop her guard, cap Jack tells her a
story how he thought he drunkenly fucked his own daughter
on a dock on the cape, how he'd actually fucked
his daughter's love interest, how his daughter wouldn't speak to
him for twenty years, and how she'd been attacked by
his colleague, which left her in a coma from which
she'd eventually succumb. This gets June talking. She tells him

(14:40):
how her father gave her the Perfect Penny doll when
she was seven. Then something happened, but she's a little
light on the details. She then starts relating the events
of the day of Marni's murder. She dosed Marnie's milk
with the sleeping pills so she wouldn't feel a thing.
She also confesses to leaving Marne by the church with
the pillow sheeting dolls so she'd be comfortable. After this confession,
there are still eleven minutes left in this episode. There's

(15:02):
definitely another shoe to drop. June loudly prays for forgiveness
for what sounds to cap Jack and the SVUS like
more than just one victim, so they talked to June's
other students. One of the students saw June arguing with
an older cane using woman the day of Marnie's disappearance.
It was June's mother, Elaine. Jew's father had died when
she was young, but her mother was very much alive,

(15:24):
had remarried and lives in Brooklyn. The SVUS quickly convinced themselves,
without a shred of evidence, that Elaine must have killed Marnie,
and that Elaine must have abused June as well. Stabler
and Benson crossed the bridge and pay a visit to Elaine.
She tells them how her ex husbands were weak and
pathetic men, always saying nice things to her daughters and
giving them gifts occasionally. They then accuse her of sexually

(15:46):
assaulting and murdering the poor young girl, and she gets incensed.
Her younger daughter, Katie, who she'd had with her second husband,
comes out and stammers to the detectives that she'd taken
her mother to a bridge tournament that day. Katie is
a blubbering mess and storms off, shouting that she didn't
do anything. Benson and Stabler find her huddled up in
a bedroom closet. Benson asks her if it's her bedroom.

(16:09):
She nods yes. Elaine then hobbles into the room after
them and yells at the detectives to quote get out
of my bedroom unquote wha. After catching our collective breath,
we fade into to cap Jack and June talking in
a Riker's Island interview room. He tells her that they

(16:29):
know the truth about what happened to her and Marnie.
Unable to face it, she calls to the guards to
let her go back to her cell, then enters half
sister in full basket case Katie. She hugs June and
wonders why June told them. June tells her that she
didn't tell them anything. Next, we are treated to a
radically skeevy interview between Stabler and Katie. Katie describes in

(16:51):
detail how she'd seen drugged and then sodomized the little girl,
just like Mommy used to. So Katie is getting sent
to a psychiatric facility for the criminally insane. Elaine is
going to jail for the ongoing abuse of her own daughters.
June is free, but her life is in ruins. Doctor
cap Jackson is now one rung up on the ladder

(17:13):
to rebuild his patient list, and we are left with
a families can't live without him, but also can't be
spoon right by your own mother for twenty years without
him either, Dick wolf.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Ough God Like I mean, it starts, you know, in
a bad place with a little kid dead in this
fucking suitcase on the sidewalk, but it gets so much worse, It.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Gets to a really bad place.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah. Yeah, it really liked a grassy it goes there.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
He's definitely had a more Chinatown esque ending than Counselor
It's Chinatown did for instance, or any of the other ones.
It seemed kind of adjacent to that of what dold
you call it? Ick that you get from that from
the end of that film. Yeah, I guess we have
a few actors to talk about.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah, we have a surprisingly short list of actors to
talk about, which for my liking, is wonderful. So we
talked about Jeremy Irons back in Much More Benson episode
eighty five, which was called the whole second half of
this episode basically is Stabler can't give everyone a ticket
to the gun show where we were talking about season twelve,

(18:33):
episode thirteen mask. So if you want to hear us
talk about him at length, because holy shit, do we
go back there?

Speaker 4 (18:40):
That was a much better Jeremy Iron's episode two.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
I think personally, yeah, you don't feel like he was wasted,
because it definitely feels like they gave him a lot
of screen time, but the material was not up to
the standard that you would hope when dealing with a
guy who's a great amy shy of a fucking egot.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
Yeah, he was GRAVI toss less in this episode.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
I kind of disagree. I think the scene where he's
where he's like work in the charm yeah, while he's
like therapizing June. I think that scene really works and.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
He has some good moment.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
I would watch that show, yeah, yeah, I like just
the doctor cap Jackson how I would watch you know
you you you watch that play out and it's like,
oh no, this works. I get.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
I wonder if there is some like pilot for a
doctor cap show that's like buried somewhere.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
They were trying to spin that off since conviction didn't
stay exactly.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
All right.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
So moving past Jeremy Irons, we've got Elizabeth Mitchell, who's
playing June Fry. She was born in La but grew
up in Dallas. She graduated from Booker T. Washington High
School for the Performing and Visual Arts, which is also
where Erica Badu, Ernie Banks, Edie Brikel, Nora Jones, and
Montelum Erica Tazzell went.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
I haven't least a couple of friends that went there,
because I went to middle school in Dallas and a
couple of my friends went to high school there. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
She got her BFA from Stevens College in Columbia, Missouri,
and then studied at the British American Drama Academy in London.
She was nominated for Outstanding Guest Actress in a Drama
Series the Emmy for that for playing Juliette Burke in Lost,
after which she joined the main cast. She was main

(20:28):
cast in La Firefighters, Significant Others, The Beast, The lions
Den v Revolution, Crossing Lines, and Dead of Summer. She
had recurring roles on the Expanse, Outer Banks, FBI International,
Once Upon a Time and er if you look at

(20:50):
the show she was main cast, and that just shows
you how many shows were canceled that you've never heard of.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
There are a lot of shows, guys, a.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Lot of shows. I didn't see all of them, and
I definitely didn't see all of the ones in which
she was main cast. She I think she probably first
came to prominence when she played uh Gia's girlfriend in
Gia Any Red Blooded Straight Male That is roughly Adam
and My Age. That is a movie you remember. There's

(21:24):
a lot of uh naked Angelina.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
Juliana that one. I've never seen it, but I vaguely
remember it now that I see Uh.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yeah, it was an HBO movie in Front of My
Bridge in that speaking of nice. Yeah. She was also
in the film's Frequency Nurse Betty, The Santa Claus two
and three, and The Purge Election Year. Next up, we've

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got Agatha Nowicki, who's playing Katie Cavanaugh and ultimately the Killer.
She pops up again as Kayla Sissy Grayland in Imprisoned Lives,
which is the weird second half of the two part
season fifteen premiere that isn't really related at all to
the William Lewis centered first half.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Yeah, weird, Okay that recently.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
I have and I was like, where do I know
her from? And it's clearly that because I didn't, I've
never seen anything else she was in. No, that's all
I have on Agatha Newiki.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Then we've got Lisa Baines who's playing Elaine fry Cavanaugh.
She was born in Chagrin Falls, Ohio. She studied acting
at Juilliard. She was nominated for a Drama Esque Award
for Best Featured Actress in a Play in nineteen eighty
four for Isn't It Romantic? She also in I Believe
It Was nineteen eighty one I Didn't Right Now. The
year won a Theater World Award for Look Back and Anger.

(22:55):
She was in the films Look Back in Anger, Cocktail,
Young Uns, Without Limits, Pumpkin, Freedom Writers that's writers with
a with a W and a T. Not legally blonde, yes,
not freedom writers.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
Not legally blonde.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
No, not legally blonde, legally blondes, and Gone Girl, where
she was Rosmond Pike's character's mother. Then she was She
was main cast in the Trials of Rosie O'Neill, which
was the which was the post Cagney and Lacy sharing
Glass attempt to get another series off the ground, and

(23:36):
I think that ran for two seasons, maybe three. She
was also in the first two seasons as main cast
in Son of the Beach, that weird USA show that
had Timothy Stack who was Parker Lewis's dad where it's
a Baywatch send off. Then she had She had recurring
roles in Nashville, The Orville Royal, Pains, Six Feet Under,

(24:00):
King of Queen's One Life to Live and Legacy. Now.
On June fourth, twenty twenty one, fourteenth she was hit
that she died on the fourteenth. She was hit on
the fourth.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Oh that's right. Yeah, okay, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
So on June fourth, twenty twenty one, she was hit
by a motorized scooter while crossing the street while she
was on her way to Juilliard. Ten days later, she
died from a traumatic brain injury. Two months after the accident,
they finally arrested the scooter driver, who fled the scene,
so they finally arrested him, but it wasn't until August.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Fifth, so that happened right like a week before I
moved here, and so it's definitely all over the news
as I was, Oh, i'm screen over here.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Now.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
The thing about it, I just want to point out
that I hate the term scooter because it is so nonspecific, right,
it means it could mean anything from something that like
goes sixty five miles an hour and can hold like
a three hundred pound man, to like the you know,
a thing like a two year old kid is scooting
around on the on the sidewalk on so I don't like.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Well, it's a motorized scooter at least, so it at
least had a motor so it wasn't one of those razors.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
Yeah, but it could be like a I mean, I
don't think it's like a Lime scooter or something like that,
but still it's it's I hate I hate. There's thinking
about this just kind of extemporaneously because like, I hate
that term because it's it's a lot anything from basically
being it's imprecise.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
I would assume that since she died from brain trauma,
that it was at least like a Vesper.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
It was going pretty fast exactly, but yeah, that sucks.
It's man, that's terrible. Now I think of her, and
I've always thought of her, and Josh will know that
when I think of Cocktail, I am always think about
Tgi Fridays, a man who's near and dear to my height,
my heart. That's the poor man of my volcane, Brian Brown.

(25:52):
But sometimes I forget that. This film also featured a
fairly Bravora performance from a woman I should think about
more often, and that was the poor woman's Glenn Close
Lisa Baynes, because that's who I always thought she was
when I watched that movie. Yeah, and she if you

(26:12):
don't remember, she's like the rich lady that Brian Brown
kind of six Tom Cruise on because he thinks he's
trying to get on it name exactly. He wants her
to to pick up a rich lady and that.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
That was ninety five percent sure that's who she played.
I couldn't remember for sure, though.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
Yeah, I had to go back and just just to
jog my memory.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
You watched Cocktail today? I actually you and Max. You
and Max sat down and watch Cocktail, which is like
really one of the most reprehensible movies ever had. It's
so terrible. Like everything you're supposed to root for Tom
Cruise's character really every terrible thing that he does.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
He's a fucking monster, even though he was often And
like also it's like, okay they flip bottles around, how
much like waste there is there? Like they're pouring out
like bottles worth of expensive liquor every night.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
And like everything's just sticky as fuck. Then any liqueurs,
you know, like whatever, if it's if it's vodka, it's
not gonna be sticky, it's just gonna be gross. But
if it's like a liqueur, if you're making a sex
on the beach.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Oh yeah. The bars that those assholes are working on,
it's all that shit TGI Fridays.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
It starts with them working at a TGI Fridays and
it is the hottest place in Manhattan.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
But can you imagine like how shooty it would be
to bar back for those assholes. There's no way they
tip out well either, you're getting your one at home
with like one hundred bucks after scrubbing basically baked on
simple serum for hours every night.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Can you imagine having to drag those bar mats from
behind the bar out to like hose them off in
the alley. Yeah, like how gross they would be with
all that spillage on them.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
That bar closes at four, you know here, So that
means you're doing that shit at dawn. That's that's how
you meet the day posing out an awful stinking.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Bar met well, and you know that like because of
all of their theatrics behind the bar that basically the
entire bar is a splash zone. And so it's not
just liquor, it's also like female ejaculate.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
I think on that note, should.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah, let's move on. So next up, we've got Heidi
Armbruster who's playing Susan Foster. She's from Madison, Wisconsin. She
got her MFA and acting from American Conservatory Theater in
San Francisco. She's done tons of New York and regional
theater work and is also a playwright. She's played a
recurring character on Younger. She's also in one episode of

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the original series. She's had small roles in Michael Clayton
Revolutionary Road and the Ray Donovan movie. Then we've got
Doug Wirt who's playing Chester chet Handler.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
Real piece of shit.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeah, I want a shit Bagh, the character I don't
know anything about.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Yeah, but uh.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
He was born in new Hampton, New Hampshire, which seems
like they shouldn't be able to name a town new
Hampton in New Hampshire, but what do I know? Then
he went to He went to Miami University.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
In Ohio, so yeah, there you go that one.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Miami of Ohio. He played Jack Crusher in Star Trek
the Next Generation, so he was Wesley Crusher's dad who
we've you know, dropped his name in the title of
an episode before.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
Hopefully Beverly will be in this. I'm looking forward to that.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yeah, someday, some day. Gates. He had a recurring role
in the Trials of Rosie O'Neil, so he probably acted
with the dearly departed Lisa Baynes.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
Yeah, they were outside of it. They were not on
screen to get in this one. But interesting, no, yeah, no.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
But they might have been. You know, maybe they were
shooting two locations at once and they're both at base
camp at the same time and they're like, remember that
Sharon Glass show. He's also he had recurring parts in
University Hospital four Corners and six six six Park Avenue.
He was in two episodes of the original series. He's
also in the film's Judgment Night, A Cool, Dry Place,

(30:25):
and The Object of My Affection. We've Got Dylan Galula. Yeah,
something like maybe that's how you say her name. She
was born in Philadelphia. She was raised Reform Judaism. She
went to Lower Marion High School, ended up dropping out
and moving to la when she was seventeen. She starred

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in Everything's Fine and had recurring roles in Shameless, Unbreakable,
Kemmy Schmidt Casual, which was the thing that I remember
her from most, but also Shameless Filthy Preppy Teens Chasing Life,
and Jennifer Falls. She's also in the film's First Girl,
I Loved Flower, Her Smell, and I Want You Back,

(31:06):
which when this episode has dropped we'll have just dropped
on Amazon about a week earlier, and stars Charlie Day
and Jenny Slat. Okay, that's all I got.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Yeah, I had exactly the same tabs open, so everybody
else didn't really do anything.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
At least someone led to us talking about cocktail for
entirely too in an episode that has nothing to do
with that movie.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
But you know, we're both kind of drinking a cocktail
in a way.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah, a low maintenance cocktail that only had one thing
poured in it other than ice. Okay, so he's about
to plant his pirate flag. I'm assuming your mind went
where mine did and assumed that that's a euphemism.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
I don't know. This whole game is a little weird
to me, is htake.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah, there's really sprinting, and I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
They're running a lot Manhattan, And like I see people
like going jogging and just like on the sidewalks, and
I find it kind of irritating. There are lots of
great jogging paths around here that don't involve you, like
nearly getting in accidents with people's strollers and people delivering
shit on electrified bikes or scooters, or old ladies with walkers,

(32:18):
or all the myriad other fucking you know challenges that
you have to navigate on the narrow ass sidewalks of
this godfors saken hell hole. One thing you don't want
to deal with is stupid nineteen year old girls who.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Are basically playing agro Pokemon goist exactly.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
It's like Pokemon Go, but like at speed.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Yeah, yeah, super east people. Instead of just trying to
get a thing.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
It's Pokemon Run Lola Run basically what it is.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Then you know they're opening up maybe there's something cool inside.
After that, she trips over the suitcase and girls, girls, girls,
you clearly don't know that you've stumbled into an episode
of SVU. You've done tripped over corpse.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
Yeah. So I looked at the phone game, the app
that they had opened. It was a very detailed map
of the neighborhood, which I think, yeah, slightly improbable for
that kind of phone app. But the thing that I
have the problem with, right, so there was one phone
and it had two avatars. It had an avatar for
both Lily and Sheila. I looked at I figured out

(33:21):
whose name who they were, and so there was one
in one corner. Yeah, but like what kind of phone
game would you not have your own? Like you need
your own phone to have have your avatar on it, right,
that's what I would think, No, you would, Yeah, So
I think that's I called bold.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
The game could have been open in her pocket.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
But no, but it was like they were both signed in.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
No no, no, no, I'm saying that that the like
the two of them both that's the only ya.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
So they're in like team mode or something. Yeah, okay,
maybe that possibly, But the other buttons on the phone
app so there were the avis in the corners, and
there was a sore to a shield, a flag, a chest,
and something that looked to me like a pipe, And
so I wonder what those buttons were for.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Well, the pipe is surely for smoking cracks.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
The flag is to plant your flag. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
I looked it up on Urban Dictionary, and the only
one that I actually liked, the only definition I actually
liked was while you're doing someone from behind putting their
head down on the like pushing their head down into
the ground. This is regardless of gender. It's just you're
you're you know, you're entering from behind, but pushing their
head down and then planking from that position while you're

(34:37):
inside them, So.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Like planking like like elbow planking.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Like now like hand down using using the hands down
to balance, and then like legs directly out.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
But Finn brings it up as if it's a thing
that we should all understand what it is, he says.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
As a founder, we're playing online, you like plant the flag,
but with virtual pirates.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
Yeah yeah, anyways.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Well I mean did you not know that Finn just
reads the works of Patrick O'Brien. That's like the only
thing he does when he's at home. He brings you know,
now he's moved on and he's bringing pizza to his grandson.
But back then he just read pirate literature.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
He used to wear like a full brim pimpat with
a feather in it. Now he only wears a bye
corner and he's like constantly debating with himself whether it's
a front and back, you know, a fore and aft
by corner, or a breast the beam by corner. Those
are two two solid options.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
And he's really excited for the new HBO Max Pirate
comedy starring Reese Darby that is going to be an
ep on.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
So the thing, okay, so I have a problem with
the bag, right, the bag that they show Lily tripping
over is not the same bag as the bag that
they open up that has Marnie in it. First off,
they're two different.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Well, yeah, the first one is not a Duffel bag.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
It's not a double bag. It does match the one
that's in the trash can later the double bags. No,
the double bag does not. And so they said that
only one girl had gone missing that day, so it
had to have been Marning. So I did a little
diving on this. It won't take very long, I put,
I took too much time looking this up. But in

(36:24):
twenty eleven, there were seven five hundred and forty five
children reported missing in New York City. That's an average
of twenty and two thirds a day, so Manhattan.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
But if you take out the one day where there's
only one missing child.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Yeah, well it actually no, no, I'm, I'm it's possible
that this could have happened. So Manhattan has a little
over one point sixty three million people in it. That's now,
so this is kind of apples to oranges. But but
it hasn't That population hasn't changed that much in that time.
It's it's it's gone up a little bit, but not
that much. And there's eight point four to two million
in the city, So that means man is nineteen percent

(37:01):
of the population of the city. So it should average
almost exactly four missing kids per day. So you know
there's gonna be variation. There's gonna be days ten and
then there's gonna be days when there's one. So at
first I went on going like there's no way there's
always going to be more than that. But no, it's reasonable.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
It is reasonable, which is really a sad statement about
just everything that. Oh yeah, assuming there have to be
more than that.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
Well, and you have to also remember that most of
them get resolved within a couple hours. Yeah, that's so
that's one.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yeah, it's not we're not talking neither you nor I
are saying that this is some wayfair shit.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And also, I mean New York is
the safest large city in the country. Don't let don't
believe the hype. It's it's yeah, it's well.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
I guess, I guess we know what you have to
cut in now. Yeah, all right, So Finn blocks Mom
from being able to see the horrifying image of her
daughter crammed into luggage, and then they go to the
MS and that's not long.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
No, it's not long. How did he get how how
did they hip him to this?

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Like before the well, no, I mean Wong Wong basically
Wog arranged four cap to be covering for him because
he's at a conference.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
Yeah, but so Warner calls Wong, doesn't Warner call the SVUS,
and the SVUS call Wong when they need his advice.
I mean, isn't that the kind of chain of of
you know, custody of.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
The how Wong does what Wog wants and so does
doctor cap Jackson.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
D c J. He's a you know, he's a he's
a freelancer. Now he's just floating through the ether giving
his psych psychiatric advice.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
So then we then we get the pedo round up
mm hm, and Ellie gets to drop that nice line
about welcome to the perforaide that leads to nowhere. And
I was thinking, do you think this is held on
the Talking Heads Road to Nowhere or Senator Steve Even's
Bridge to Nowhere?

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Ooh, that's a good point. I mean, I suppose since
it's in Manhattan Road to nowhere nowhere.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
More, since you could actually see David Burne driving down
there or riding down the street on his like lit
up bike.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
The thing is that we would never see Elliott lost
in a pair of pants the way we saw David
burn Sure, glutes are cutting through.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
The pants need to be glued painted on, painted on.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
You could make the pant legs ten feet wide and
you'd still see those ass cheeks cutting through the fabric.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Well, because the pants want to be closer to Malay's buns.
They're just drawn to them.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
I just want to talk about one of the pedos
in the pedo parade. So one of them was a professor.
He's got tenure though, so he's got tenure. But so
he says, my students can attest to that, and Bensa goes, students,
you were caught filling up a ten year old, but
I wasn't convicted. He says, Still, I'm shocked Hudson University
didn't hi you. And it's like, Benson, don't you know

(40:03):
by now that Hudson University kind of depends on this
kind of behavior for their livelihood.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Yeah, it's fueled by creeps. So yeah, boyfriend chat sure
for Chester.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
Completely insane. This guy love.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Pushes her down, takes a swing at Finn, won't take
no for an answer, and scowls and winces through his
entire performance like he was Brett Kavanaugh, waxing nostalgic about
Burskies with Judge Tom PJ Bernie and Squeeze. Yes, we
drank beer.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
I liked beer. Still like beer. We drank beer. Finn
clearly announces himself as a police officer, and this guy,
this like middle aged white guy wearing a suit, just
hauls off and throws a fist right at Finn's face.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
It's not Wesley's dad.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
Yeah, and then and then we find out that this fuck,
this fucking guy you forced me touched a thirteen year
old girl, your last girlfriend's kid.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
It was that little bitch's idea. The little bitch told
me he wanted a threesome. You tried that with Susan
and Marty too, threesome.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
My daughter is dead.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
How can you accuse me of doing that? Because you
lied about where you were.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
When Marny disappeared. I was at work.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Well, your boss says different.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
He says that you left after lunch.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
So he proposed to have a threesome.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
With his No, no, no, no. He claims that it
was the thirteen year old's idea to have the threesome
with him and her mother.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Yeah, I yeah, I'm aware of his claims, But.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
I mean, we're supposed to believe him though, right, But
he seems like a good dude otherwise.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
But so if he was caught, So if he had
this police record, would it not be like, would he
not have to announce himself as.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
He'd have to have been conderted. No, he'd have to
have been convicted.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
But he wasned. Oh okay, that makes sense. Okay, yeah,
because that was good.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Although I'm not one hundred percent sure on that. I've
only watched this once and I was taking notes the
entire time. Yeah, so I saw, you know, probably seventy
percent of the episode or I really saw it, like
really took it and soaked it all in.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
I mean, I was like writing down all these these details.
But of course there were certain details that I mean,
the threesome, that whole scene really.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Oh, that peaks one's interest, but at.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
The same time it makes you kind of forget some
of those loose, like key details because next up we
see Benson proposing to Susan Foster that he had proposed
a threesome with with young perfect Marnie as well.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Speaking of perfect, is that part where June is talking
about how she had perfect hand.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Position, posture and weight transfer gross.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Gross.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
Yeah, as soon as we see June, it's like abundantly
obvious that something is wrong with this lady.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Yes. Yeah, Now, so CAP's vote is for a woman
who rapes and kills, which per olliviate. They've never seen
him thirteen years of working together, not without a male counterpart.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Yes, exactly, they've had they can count him on one hand,
the number of and they all had male counterparts exactly.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah. So then an it's mentioned that Anne CAP's daughter
didn't make it, which, you know, pour one out for her.
Then Capp tells us that he's dealt with two female
molesto murderers. They were later diagnosed to sociopaths and tie
lacking and empathy. This one, however, he deems to have

(44:04):
some tenderness. We find out that Marnie's mom called and
canceled the piano lesson per per June, and it's one
of those things where if that's a cover, it's gonna
take like five seconds to blow up in her face.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
Everything that says this is where.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
She says Marnie's perfect, which is gross. But yeah, every everything,
everything June says pretty much the entire time is a lie,
except for all the shit about her. Well even really,
she doesn't even say it's about her mom. She says
it's about her dad.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
She really doesn't really tell the truth the whole episode.
She's a pretty pathetic prevaricator, you know, because we learned
the truth from Katie. We don't learn the truth from June,
and we don't learn it until the very.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
I do have to say that the picture that they
pulled up on the on the screen or on the
of June was like, could you have someone more like
drowned out and light and like just straight up deer
in headlight?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Ship?

Speaker 4 (44:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Like wow, she.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
She over like this ship?

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Yeah, I mean, which works for you know.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
For yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
So then Cap goes with him, turns on the charm,
starts buttering her up with some chopin flattery.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
He knows his atudes, man, he knows them.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Oh yeah, a yeah. And then obviously it's a known
fact that you can't refuse a BRIT's request for a
cup of tea, which opens the door for them to
be able to look all over the place.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
So, josh U, this sends me down a little rabbit
hole that I did this. I I did look up
the denimon for demonin demon demon Yeah, sorry pronunciation people
from the isle of white. Yeah, And there's three options
that you have to go with. So, uh, the correct
and classic.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Verst White Boys.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
No, it's called Vectunsians, which is generally only used by
the upper crust or like societies will use vac Tenzian.
It's kind of like derived from some Roman era cult
or sect. Now the more common use is is either cockhead.
Well used to be cockhead I think, and is now

(46:14):
cork heads.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Like you like like you cocka.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
Yeah, because it was about like the idea was that
they had to like they're constantly patching up their boats,
so they're cocking their boats or sticky. Yeah, exactly, so they're.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Cock cock cockheads cocking. They're cocking.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
They're basically they're cocking. So they're they're they're worried their
their shirt cock they're wearing shirts and they're cocking. So
they're cockheads. But yeah, so just a little little tidbit
because I was, I was, you know, intrigued. But yeah,
he has he has a He has such a rich
and soothing timber to his voice that, you know, the

(46:54):
instant he gives.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
You a the kind that you can only really get
while living in the English Channel.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
You know, it's true. Yeah, I mean exactly, Yeah, Yeah,
I guess they're in the channel. They're kind of you.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Know, maybe it's maybe it's too far to be. It
feels like it's in the broader part of the English Channel,
but maybe it's too far west.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
Yeah, it's not like it's not like Jersey, right, isn't
Jersey those well whatever the Channel islands are? What are
the Channel islands?

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Well, the Channel islands. There are Channel islands in.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Yeah, Jersey, Jersey. Yeah no, but I'm talking about Jersey
and Guernsey and Alderney and Sark. That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Sark.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Yeah, oh, don't forget herm I looked into trying to
move to how to move to Jersey, like all of them. Yeah,
I really I was. I was hoping to find one
that had an easier way to move there because uh,
I don't want to be in this country anymore.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
But that country might be as fucked as we are,
if not more.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Now they're self governing. Baileywick's Adam Oh anyway, anyway, a huge,
huge digression there. So uh then then they, you know,
suss out that the trash may contain the truth and

(48:16):
Elliott flashes the fuck spoon from when he pulls out
that fuckspoon. I almost vomited.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
He's he's holding it, he's grasping it by the business
end to by the balls.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Yeah, he's got the fox spoon by the balls, and
the shaft is just there and we're left to think
about what it was doing to a fucking child. It
is disgusting.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
This should not have been on screen.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
No, No, that is they.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
Could say, oh, there's a spoon there.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
But maybe maybe my brain did the filling in. But
I swear that there was a head to that dick.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
No, he was actually holding it from the base where
you would hold a spoon, as if you were going
to use it to stir something, which presumably would be
the same end that you would use the business end
to penetrate the ten year old child.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
At least we know that it was bleached. Yeah, but
because we we but we don't know that until after.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
Yes, we don't know that until later. Oh god, just awful.
Not the first time Elliott has brandished a wooden foreign
object penetrator in front of her.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
No, I mean that's that. That's an every other episode occurrence,
isn't it.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
Which the one I'm thinking of specifically the paddle which.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Which wasn't was that Brotherhood? Yeah, that was Brotherhood, which
was well Eldon Hansen season five episode twelve, nips out
on a gurney.

Speaker 4 (49:53):
Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Serena Williams just weirdly in the episode.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
Yeah exactly, that's that's a fun one. But you really
get uncomfortably close and personal with another wooden foreign object
penetrating device.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
A much larger one. Yeah, but given that those guys
were the purpse before they were the victims, I feel
less bad about that one. I feel terrible about this one.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
This one is terrible. Yeah, this one is just awful.
I only feel less bad about this one because the
episode was kind of such a mess that.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
Yeah, this is this is some wild shit. Yeah. So
then when when Cap goes when Cap gets pulled out
of the room because you know, she asked for a lawyer, like,
we assume that when he goes back in, he's going
to like coax June into going skinny dipping with him

(50:50):
off the cape.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
Right, most likely? Yeah, Now, I think that one of
the things, either Wong or Benson or Stabler or Kragan
or Munch or any of the other people because they
still exist here in this universe even if they're not
in the episode, would have told him before he went
in there, As some of the rules about how you

(51:11):
interrogate a subject, what's like, what's allowed and what's not allowed.
And you'd think he would have known that, or they
could have told that to him beforehand, because it's.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Or you'd think that maybe he's seen a TV show.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
Ever, Yeah, exactly, you'd think that, like or maybe he'd
asked them. He's a very smart man, go like what's
acceptable and what's not. It just seems a little strange
to me that you have this person who's your prime
suspect in a awful, awful crime. Yeah, and you just
let this random asshole who decided to start helping you

(51:47):
because I realized that he hadn't incest raped his own
daughter off the cape twenty years previous to that.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Like, but Adam, they had Jeremy irons for three days,
they had him for three days. They're gonna use them.
So then he says, do you remember when he gave
it to you? Do you remember how it felt when

(52:14):
you held her in your arms? Big pause in between
the do you remember how it felt? And that when
you held her in your arms? And this is all
while he's was broking the doll's hair suggessful when.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
He gave it to you, perfect penny.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Yeah, not not got his wooden spoon, but he's really
mining the double entendre for all it's worth here, Like, wow.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
It's probably the only thing that gives mister Iron's joy
at this point.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Yeah, it's just the most grotesque double entendres while asking
her girl about how she was molested, asking a full
grown woman about how she was molested thirty years ago
or whatever. Okay, so okay, we've got it with both
June and her sister later, but it must really fucking

(53:08):
suck to play in fantalized grown women like they're asked
to do here, Like it's thankless entirely. They're both like
these meek, feeble, you know, broken women in the pocastic
of the trauma that they suffer. I'm not saying that
they shouldn't be this way. It's got to suck when
you're not that person to have to do it.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
It does seem like a choice to have them both
kind of end up that way, you know, It's it
seems like June, maybe you could have written that character
slightly differently because she had broken away, and you know,
she had a different last name, and she and had
maybe maybe would have had a slightly different We've seen
spu kind of right kind of siblings that turn out differently.
She has a really nice brownstone, Josh. And this is

(53:51):
one of the things I was trying to figure out
the houses, both of the houses. So the the brownstone
in Gramercy Park, which is, uh, not the kind of
neighborhood that a piano instructor lives in. That's the kind
of neighborhood that you know, Marishka Hargatea lives in. So
she has a huge brownstone there. And her mother has

(54:14):
a very nice split level home in Brooklyn Heights, which
is another very nice neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
But it's a one bedroom, as we later find.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
Out, we don't know that it's a one bedroom. We
just know that they share.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
That they only have one bedroom.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
They have they have a guest room probably still but
still it was a very nice home with very nice
art on the walls. You know, there's like a fucking
you know, it looked like there was like a legit
Rothko hanging on the wall in that house. Josh. That
that place was nice.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
But still, so it also means that they spend too
much on bullshit art.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
Yeah, so still what I'm saying, is is pathetic, weak,
sniveling asshole dad that we are led to believe her
June's father, mister, I don't think we know his name.
Oh we do, but I forget it. I didn't write
it down. But mister Frye somehow own this house because
Elaine could not afford either of these houses on her

(55:15):
salary as.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
A yeah, no, no, no, no, it's very obviously.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
She was a legal clerk for thirty years. You don't
get to own massive houses in this town.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
And the second, the second one was her husband. Yeah, yeah,
so the one was the one was was June's dad.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
And the other was Katie's dad. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
But man, I don't understand how that woman would have
two husbands. Who that woman who is like, I'll tell
you both of her daughters for her second daughter, she's
basically molested for what twenty five years? So Josh, the
share a fucking bedroom, Josh.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
Josh, Josh, I don't want to talk about the daughters
right now. I want to talk about.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
No, I'm talking about the mother.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
I want to talk about the husbands and what the
mother did to the husbands.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
And the mom sucks.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
No, no, no, no, no, but mom didn't.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Oh, she killed them both.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
She used the spoon on them both, Josh, she used
the spoon. That's what they were into. That's that they
were weak. They were they were She's the top and
they were not power bottoms, Josh. They were weak bottoms
and she they were twinks. She pegged them within ends

(56:35):
of their lives.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
They were hard subs. Okay. So when when we see
June's hands holding it's either the picture of the doll,
we see him close up. The brans looked rough. I
thought she was like a leather worker.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
Well, you said she lives Bainbridge, right, so maybe she's.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Yeah, she was, or at least as of two thousand
and eight, she lived.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
On in the elements. You know, she's like harvesting you know,
oysters or or you know, rowing sailing. She's probably sailing
around Puget sounds lovely. It's one of the best places
in the world to go sailing. She's hauling on lines, Josh.
She probably has her by corner fore and aft, sure
as one does. She's got the she's got the spyglass

(57:27):
a fixed to her face.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
She's this is the pirate Pirridyist episode of SVU that
we've ever done, and there's no reason for it to
be other than other than planting the pirate flag.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
She's crossing the t of the the dastardly Spaniards, you know.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Yeah, so this is two of the last five episodes
of season twelve with weird female purp child molesters, two
of the last five. Yeah, so I feel like Neil
Bear is like going out on a weird note.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
I think he's definitely going out a weird note. I
think that like with last week's also being a season
twelve episode and this week's being a season twelve episode,
they were he was just kind of letting it fly, right, Yeah, lets.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Is peak like picking plot devices out of a hat.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
And also just being like, impress me, don't give me
the same stuff that's happened before.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
I want to be well, let's get weird.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
And one of the writers said spoon fucking and he said, yep, yes, bingo,
mom Purp, yes.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Mom listing daughters all right, anyway.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
They sure make us think about the spoon man. They
make us think about the spoon a lot, because Benson says, uh,
put it this way, you weren't teaching Marnie Foster how
to bake cookies to the mother. Oh, it's pretty fuck up,
pretty fucked up.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
Yeah, yep, so mom's a fucking monster. She's replacing one
daughter to purple with a younger model.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
Yeah, and you know, purping harder. It's very much Chinatown,
just with John Houston played by The poor Man's Glenn Close. Essentially.
Do you think Elaine Kavanaugh likes her fish served with
the heads on, Josh, Yes, Let's just talk about the
confession briefly. Talk about Katie's confession before, because Katie doesn't

(59:26):
exist until minute thirty three, thirty three to thirty five.
Somewhere in there, she appears and she goes full blobbery mess.
I want to.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
Well, she lives there.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
I didn't want her to feel bad, so I went
into the kitchen and I got some of the pills.

Speaker 5 (59:49):
The one said Chenie's is to go to sleep with And.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
What else did you get from the kitchen?

Speaker 5 (59:56):
Spin the wooden boat like the and that my moms and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Jean came home. She saw it done.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
Please, I don't want to listen anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
To invoke the grass again.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
She goes there, she goes full Sean penn In and
I'm Sam. She's so lovely or I am Sam. Yeah, yeah,
she she goes not one toke over the line, she
goes like three tokes over the line.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
She does what Jared Letto would do if you give
them the chance.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
Exactly do you think she was Do you think she
called an older marm and told her to uh top
her repeatedly in preparation for this browl Anyways, that confession

(01:01:08):
is brutal. Brutality is brutal to watch, It is brutal
to think about. It had to have been brutal to
be in the room while it was being performed. Just absolutely,
absolutely brutal. And I feel for the actress because I
don't think I don't think that's what you want to

(01:01:29):
put on your real.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Nope, but you know, one of the biggest things you've
been in.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
It's definitely a big performance. But yeah, now I think
we can rate this piece of shit. So, of course, guys,
we rate these episodes every week. We rate on for
criteria with which we try to come up with a
composite score that will help us put this amongst all
the other episodes of this wild and weird show that

(01:02:02):
we watch so often. So we rank on how problematic
the episode was the depth and breadth of Lives ruined,
the quality overall, and of course the guests they're in.
So let's start with the quality. Josh, I don't think
that this one was very good kind of at all.
But I don't think it's like absolute shit. I guess

(01:02:26):
it has It's definitely has moments that drop your jaw
and I watched this show for those moments that's fun
for me. It definitely wasn't boring, but it also wasn't good.
So do you have a at least in my mind,
I don't know, you might.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Have a different is to say a three or four?

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
Yeah, I think I think a three. You think a four.
I think it's going to have a high score in
one of the categories. So I say a three.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
I'm fine with Yeah, three is fine.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
I mean, I guess the guess is is its kind
of biggest failing maybe, But also I think that I
don't know, it's it's complex.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
I really think the scene, I don't necessarily think that
like Kat Jackson wouldn't understand that if they invoke the
lawyer request that he would have to stop. But aside
from that, I think that Irons he's a great actors
and his ravitas like kind of carries a lot of

(01:03:29):
the episode the way that the episode shouldn't be carried
because on paper it's not that good. No doing this
much more than like A I think you've got to
go at least like a six, right, just because it's.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
I mean, Irons is very good, and I think Lisa
Haynes is very good in her role Pains. I'm sorry,
I wish she was on screen more because I thought
she was definitely the best of the women.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Elizabeth Mitchell was better.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
Yeah, I think she is kind of a thankless role.
I think she's fine. I think that Katie was pretty rough,
but Katie has the least screen time, so that's I.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Mean, chit pulled off. Shithead.

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
Oh glorious shithead, just an absolute glorious shithead. So I
think six. I think six is okay because Irons is
very good when he's good, yes, now, I think, and.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
He gets a lot to do. You know, it's not
one of those things where like, oh they wasted Michael
kay Williams. Again, Yeah, it's not one of those. The
materials beneath him, but he's got the screen time requisite
to his his like Cashet.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
Yeah, I just I guess I feel bad because I
think the screen time is beneath him. I mean that,
not the screen time, the material is beneath him. It's
like the last time we saw him. You know, this
is like a really kind of it was at least outrageous,
it was outrageous, but it's also like moving because this
guy thought for twenty years.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
He really thought that he fucked his daughter.

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
And irons made us believe that, And that's pretty brilliant.
Now was this episode problematic, Josh?

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
I mean yes, very.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
I'm kind of extremely problematic.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Yeah, how much time do? Okay? We see a little
girl in a suitcase for kind of a long time.
We later see in another suitcase the foreign object that
penetrated her get produced from it, and then a stabler
holding it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
Holding it from the present.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
We get the weird cap Jackson stroking stroking the doll's
hair while being the entirely while speaking entirely in double
entendres about how she was molested. Like twenty years early.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
We have Benson basically accusing a dead girl's mother of
to have a threesome yep with her dead chilled yep yep.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
She is forced to and I mean we have another
where the guy is claiming that the thirteen year old
previous girlfriend's kid had had insisted that they have a
threesome he her and her mother.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
This is like psychedelic bullshit.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Yeah, no, it's there's a lot. I think he comes
short of a ten, obviously, but I think it's like
an it's it's.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
Like eight or nine. I mean it is highly problematic, Josh.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
I think it's.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
It's pretty gross. Maybe it's an age.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
It's not as gleefully disgusting as or or like not
as gleefully disgusting or insane as I think we would like,
which I think is why it's probably not a nine. Yeah,
probably just an eight.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
But we gave last week what we gave a nine,
and that was clearly reveling in the insanity, and it was,
you know, it had kind of a lot going for
it it this one, I think to give it a nine. Yeah,
we're kind of we're kind of giving it maybe more
credo than it deserves.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Right, Yeah, I mean it's still an eight. Yeah, oh
it is still it's wildly problematic.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
Yeah, And it's wildly problematic for an episode that we're
like not huge on and same thing. We have like
a dead child. We have this family that's absolutely destroyed,
where this mother's been.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Do you have a dead kid in a suitcase who
we are led to believe is sodomized with a spoon
by a woman, and that kid is not credited? That's
absolutely suitcase kid is not credited.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
We see your picture.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
I tried to figure out she's on screen a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
No, all those all those.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
People as a corpse in a suitcase.

Speaker 4 (01:07:54):
All those other kids that were credited. We were the
kind of under fives where they meet what's her name, Belula.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Yeah, Dylan Gula, Yeah, where they're where they're looking into
June's students exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
Yeah, So there were a lot of them. There was
like a bunch of them. So yeah, that's rough man. Plus,
I mean, plus we have the sisters, well the half sisters,
who are both shells of humans from which.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
Would be which stands to reason they would be after
awful in one case, decades of sexual abuse that are
still going on. I mean, she is still in it
at she's got to be what twenty five?

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
Yeah, So I mean I can tell you the day
so as of you know, as of what is that Sunday,
March twenty seventh. That's the day they're at Elaine Kavanaugh's residence.
She's still been yeah, like tormented day in, day out

(01:09:00):
by her awful, awful mother.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
Slash bed mate. Is this a nine? It's a nine?
God damn it. I don't want to give it a nine,
but it's got to be.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
What's the last nine we have?

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
She's molested by her mother for like twenty years.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
Yeah, that's really fucked up. And I mean, I wonder
if we need to move quality down to a two.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Account for the Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's a
fair trade.

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
It's still we're still getting a six point twenty five,
which puts it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
On No, No, we haven't done fallout.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
Yeah. I thought that was depth and breadth. I thought
we were just talking about that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
No, we're talking about problematic.

Speaker 4 (01:09:34):
Oh okay, we're bumping problematic to it. But like depth
and breadth, How are we not going to give depth
and breadth and an equivalent score? I was talking about
depth and breadth there. I thought we'd moved on and
we'd given problematic an eight because you know depth.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
O, that's fine, eight and nine eight nine is fine.
But dropped okay, or why don't we.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
Do eight and eight? I don't know. Oh, man, it's
pretty off.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
We've got two we've got two children and who who were.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
We've we've got three children who.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Were well, we've got one who was molested and murdered.
We've got two more who were molested for years by
their mother, yes, one of one of whom was molested
by for decades.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
Yeah. Also they're like the dead husband who knows.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Which, yeah, who knows what's going on there? But they're
both dead and we assume.

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
Yeah, we assumed that she was molesting them.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
To cap Jackson's daughter died, which we have a relationship to.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
Yeah, we do. We we didn't really meet Anne. We
just saw her getting assaulted.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
No, we got to see her.

Speaker 4 (01:10:38):
Like, yeah, we did. She she kind of worked. She
woke up and.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
And thought about the skinny dipping and him fucking your girlfriend.

Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
It was Benson and Stapler that actually caused her seizure
that put her into the koma. So Benson and Stable.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
Kill they killed it. They killed her. Yeah that's the fallout, man. Yeah,
we've got the girl. We've got the girl who tripped
over the corps suitcase.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
Yeah, they probably lost that game of plant the flag
whatever that means.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
Yeah, that's definitely they're out. Chet is going to jail.
But he deserves to, oh, big time.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
He deserves to go to jail for a lot of things.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Yeah, Susan Foster's obviously got some fallout because you know,
her fucking.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
Daughter, her daughter is dead, her marriage is over after this,
there's no way that's not happening. So I don't know
at the moment. I have problematic as an eight, and
I don't have anything for depth.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
I think okay, I think problematics a nine and fallouts
in eight.

Speaker 4 (01:11:36):
Okay, Okay, that's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
I think it's more problematic than problematic. Have even fallout,
have you?

Speaker 4 (01:11:43):
Okay, either way you slice it, it gets a six point
twenty five, which I think is a It's one of
the things about a rating system that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
When something's super fucked up, it's gonna trump it not
being good. Uh, And this is that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
When you have a bad episode with a big guest
star who isn't problem with the episode, this can happen
if it's.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Extremely talking about Is that a backhanded, backhanded comment about
Brenda Blevin?

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
Maybe yeah, exactly right. So so yeah, the last six
point two five we had was the one that as
of this taping was the one that just dropped. That
was she kind of gets mind raped by the Hawk,
which we covered and we dream of Machine LS Season
twenty one, episode eight. It was the Adam Arkin episode.

(01:12:34):
We thought that that was a much better episode, but
it was not nearly as problematic, nor did the ruination.
Was it deep or kind of wide as this episode? Yeah,
because this one it goes to some really really dark places.

(01:12:57):
It does weren't If it weren't such a shit sho
it would almost be unthinkably dark places. But thankfully it's
kind of amateur chandling of certain bits of it makes
it easily to swallow, easier to swallow. Sorry, but yeah,
I think it's time to roll the next episode, Josh,
and put this one in the ground where it belongs.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
Yeah, okay, So we're going over to episode dot lol,
which was built for the podcast by Flat. The tape
is spinning. Bill and Tad are being thrown through space
time from this into another episode of SVU and We've

(01:13:43):
got ourselves season twelve again.

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
Episode twelve Possessed.

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
Is episode dot lol like Possessed by season twel.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
Sure seems like it. It was the last season that
we got to except for the newest one. And now
it's only season twelve. It's only spinning out season twelve episodes.
It seems season twelve or thirteen. We're just living in
this weird, like this weird transitional era between like the
limited Fiel Bear Yers and the fucking start of the
goddamn Warren Light Years.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
So yeah, but you know, I I gotta say that
it has been a wild ride, because.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
You have Season twelve has been batshit crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:14:27):
We're bouncing back and forth between a guy who has
a hard case of the fuckets, let's do the wildest
shit we can think of, and another season where they like,
we don't know how this show works, so we're going
to kind of make it up on the fly.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
And so that means and we don't know how this
show show works without one of the two leads who's
been with the show for the entire time. So it's, uh, yeah,
it's it's really it's out there, man. Yeah. Anyway, so Possessed,
a young woman's past as the unwilling star of a
series of child pornography videos, comes back to haunt her

(01:15:03):
when she is attacked by a former fan. This one
stars Tarreen Manning. You know her, you love her from
such films as Crossroads and Hustle Inflow.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
Nice. Oh, yeah, of course.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
I wrote about this one way back in the day.
She's also She's what pensa tucky or whatever? Oh and
Orange is New Black? But yeah, Tarren Manning and Devin
Rattray who just got arrested for a DV incident.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
The attacker has the most absurd name I've seen in
NSVU yet, so I'm really excited to get to that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
Is it Orville Underground Underwood orble Underwood or is it Elden.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
Balloc It's el Plow.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
That's Devin Ratray. That's that's the what bud or whatever?
From from Home Nice?

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
Nice? Also Orville Underwood's pretty good too. I didn't see
that one.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
Buzz Buzz from Home alone?

Speaker 4 (01:16:07):
Nice? Yeah, Buzz.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
Yeah, this is going to be something I did again.
I wrote about this back in the old blog days.

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
Yeah, Buzz the bad ERAC did Dad. That's uh, that's
Buzz the shitty older brother.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:16:25):
So this looks like it's going to be another wild
ride on the season twelve extravagant.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
I remember this relatively well, and yes it will be.
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Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
So yes, So Spotify you can have rate and review
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Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
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Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
And it's still the apps a little wonky, but I
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by a podcast being in the network.

Speaker 4 (01:17:57):
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Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
Very ship from Wondery and fucking ear Wolf. And of
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Speaker 5 (01:19:44):
You remember when he gave it to you? Do you
remember how it felt when you held her in your arms?

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
You stop, you stop torturing me. You don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:20:00):
Anything about how I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
Maybe I should ask for a lawyer, but we're talking.
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96 - You Could Make the Pant Legs Ten Feet Wide, and You'd Still See Those Ass Cheeks Cutting Through the Fabric (S12E20 Totem)

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.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}96 - You Could Make the Pant Legs Ten Feet Wide, and You'd Still See Those Ass Cheeks Cutting Through the Fabric (S12E20 Totem)