EP #111 | Rodrick L. Swift & Philip Butler II | Top 10 Drummers, Divine Connections, and the Journey of the Sauce - Musicians Matters Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Join me as your host Roger Swift and boy do
I have this?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
What's song for you?

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Musicians Matters Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Right down here, Thursday, five year, Pacific Easter Standard Time,
All Digital Packform.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Twenty one Christians Media.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
You all?

Speaker 1 (00:37):
It's gonna be a EPI show on tonight. This is
another episode of Musicians Matters podcast with my co host
Philip Buger.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
My brother?

Speaker 4 (00:55):
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Roger? This boys.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
Haul them from Ken City, Missouri to show me stake
how you're doing on today?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
I'm doing good. It's not like you're working hard.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Over there, bro man.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Working hard ain't even a word. That's an understate.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Are you on your way to another session on today?

Speaker 4 (01:26):
I would say nah, but that'd be nice. But it's
always good to have rest and to to do what
you need to do business wise, because the sessions will
always be it.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yes sir, yes, sir, yes sir.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
But this dynamic show tonight is gonna be epic. What
you think, bro man?

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Listen? I must say it's gonna be off the charts now,
off the charge. It's not even a word, you know. Uh,
it's just not it's un a statement as well too,
because every moment it's never doing movement.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yes, sir, h M. Gonna start off with this on
August the ninth. We're gonna be at the Guard stations
recording students. It's gonna be a lot of biggest in

(02:41):
the Vallee twenty two seventy Los Rills. Everybody needs to
be there, Philip, I know you're gonna be there, like you.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Oh yeah, most definitely. Listen, man, I'm very excited. I'm
like super super excited. This is you know, this is
for me. It's heart warming. It's very hard warming, you know,
just to unite with a lot of the brothers.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Not only that, you know, all of us are artists
in our own right. We have our own credentials about
our built and our own right. But just to just
to come in and just fellowship and talk and you know,
share and receive information, it's gonna it's gonna be. It's

(03:45):
gonna be a beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Man.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
I ain't even gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
I must say yeah, that's.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yep, very awesome.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
I just want to.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Say thank you for but this this knuckle ahead on you,
yes and be a.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Part of this. Yes, if I would you just just
pull over?

Speaker 5 (04:16):
Are you busy?

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Just pull over?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Just be no feedback. We having a lot of feedback.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Okay, all right, actually driving?

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Okay, understand it.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
How about now? How does that sound sound much better?
I like that much better?

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Oh yeah, so yes, yes, I like that much better.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
So it's going to be awful twenty two seventy Loci Road,
and then we're going to be at the gas Station
Recording Studio. If you want to purchase your tickets, you
can purchase your tickets right now at event bright event
bright dot com Drummers United Music and Arts Fest right now,

(05:09):
you can purchase your tickets at this time. And it's
gonna be at twelve noon at the gas Station Recording Studio.
The situation that I was talking to you about previously,
I was pretty honored and thankful. How I opened the

(05:34):
show basically you hear the Swiss sauce coming out right right? Yes,
And I've been working on this. I might might as
well say I'm going on twenty twenty years as ass

(05:58):
right now, gragulations. My brother put it like this. It
has been in twenty I mean not twenty stores, but
it has been in the five stores as of today.
But every time they go in the five mom and
pop stores, the product cells. So that must means that

(06:26):
it's a dynamic and it's a great sauce. I'm not,
you know, trying to brust my whistle or toot my
horn or whatever. But you know, I put a lot
of love in it. And this through the grace of
God that be given me less product, and I was

(06:50):
grateful that I was able to put it in the store.
But the situation is, I'm gonna put it like this.
Makes it's short.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
It's like this.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
I was able to put it in the stores, but
I wasn't able.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
To see it sell.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Let's put it like that. Oh you understand what I'm standing, yep.
But God has turned it around. Let's feel like this.
It's been on this this network before I was being
actually uh interviewed from another host about the product. And

(07:38):
now God has turned around to where he had put.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Man in my life.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Two set you know the path straight, you know, to
where it's been. It'll be able to to be able
to be so national and international through these stores. So
I might say to the world right now as.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
We speak.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
My testimony, I'm thinking God right now that he seemed
fit last week as I was going and coming into
South Carolina that I was just you know, looking for

(08:39):
a place for you know, to be soul. And God
seemed fit to say, okay, let me tap on this
and tap on that, tap on this, look it up
up this this place, and look up with this uh
manufacturing company. Look up in this manufacturing company. And God said,

(09:01):
look at this person, look at Savannah Sauce Incorporation. I
tapped on that and I looked at that Savannah thought
In Corporation. Okay, and I talked to this person on
the web basically, you know, and it was basically you

(09:25):
know how it was divine appointment, you know, when you
can feel a certain.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Gifts.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Like he was given his testimony. I was given my
testimony as he was study given his testimony. I was
study giving my testimony. I was like, this kind of
sounded like my testimony. Yeah, I mean this, you understand

(09:57):
what I'm saying. I'm like, this kind of sounded like
my testimony. But the trip part about it, the trip
part of about it. The young man said, I'm not
gonna say nothing until I taste your sauce. All right, sauce,

(10:21):
let's put it like this, I mean kind of tears
right now because this young man didn't know me from Adam.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, didn't know me from Adam. Didn't know me from.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
You know, like you know, like I know you like
we know Jenry Royce.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
You know, he didn't know me from Adam. He was
just taking my word and this young man said, okay,
let me just taste your sauce. I got the sauce
to him on last I mean this past Monday, three o'clock.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
And mister.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Michael Robinson, I would like to thank you for giving
me that opportunity to say, yeah, I rarely appreciate you
for letting me in your master class. Mister Robinson has
given me an app opportunity to give in his master class.

(11:29):
So I can get this sauce all over the world
like we want to, and like whole foods, we can
get it into all of the various of whole foods,
the aces or wherever. Ain't got a blessing, that's a blessing.
All I gotta do is a tennis this master class

(11:52):
with mister Robinson, and you know, yes, it's gonna take
some money. So this nurse, if I do ask you
for a certain part of amount of money and you know,
and send it to this this organization for this this class.

(12:14):
It's for a good cause, because you're going to say,
you're going to see your seed sown in good ground.
So thank you mister Robertson for accept me in your
master class.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Hey man, you man to that.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Pulin Louis Ain't not a blessing.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
That's a huge blessing, a quadruple blessing.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
By the way, Yes, yes, yes, yes, So.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Tonight's we're gonna be shining the light on to uh
find it two artists just before we go into the
top tens. We're gonna be shining the light on this
Monica Drummer and.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
My show Mike Barrell.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Oh yeah, two too heavy hitting giants and the music
community and the music biz as a as a collector.
West Coast meet Midwest?

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Ain't that a West Coast meet mist Yes, miss Monica
MS Drummer. I've been watching her for quite some time.
I've been watching her on the lay, the shows, the
shows she was on that one show it was an

(13:46):
awards show. That's when I really really really started following her,
and from then on the Trumpet Awards, Yes, the Trumpet
and it was for the women.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Remember that.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
On bt BT it was for the women, women, Black
Girls rock.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yes, thank you, thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
I was following her since then. She is a dynamic drummer.
And you know, she toured all over the world at
her age, and I'm really loving what she got for
this world. You know, if you want to look her
up for her name is Monica m Z drummer. Check

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her out, and she's a monster. I would not want.
I wouldn't either, Yeah, I wouldn't either. And then.

Speaker 6 (14:53):
As far as Mike Morell, he's like ridiculous on pez huh,
very very Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
You were just telling me something like like last week
that he's not only a keyboardist, he's he plays drums
and bassed two.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
I was checking that out.

Speaker 7 (15:20):
I was checking it out.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
He's really good on that days too, And he's really
good on the drum.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
I didn't even know you played drums.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
I've seen it and my own two eyes.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
In the good old flesh.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Uh, Yes, with my.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Own two eyes, with my own two.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
Eyes, Hey, moments like that you just gotta capture.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yes, definitely, definitely.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
And he's not only Mike.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Stro with the keys, drums, the bass, He's also can.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Sing too, and that's threw me for a loop that
he could sing. Mister Mike, he's a one man band.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yes, when he's at Bishop Noel Jones Church, he's he's
he's sung quite a few times with the Praise Team
just recently, and he's like, dynamics.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Senior, it gets no better than that, no better than that, better.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Than Let's go with these. Let's go with these top tens.
Once you got on these top tens, bro, what's your
first top ten?

Speaker 5 (16:49):
Top ten?

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Uh, let's go with Ricky Lawson.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Right, Ricky Lawson, we are we are in Detroit, Michigan.
You know, Grammy Award winning drummer, the nephew of Paul Riser.
You know Grammy Award winning and co founder of the
Yellow Jackets. Wow, they're co founder of the Yellow Jackets.

(17:20):
I could truly say Ricky Lawson had literally.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Set a trend.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
For a lot of drummers, not just his playing skill,
but also his personality. I was blessed to meet Ricky
Lawson while I lived in Las Vegas back in five Wow.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yes, he gave me.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
A pair of his drumsticks and.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Had his phone number, but I never called it.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Never called it. It was just a memo. It was
just a memorobilia. But the thing about it is he
even said it. Drums is cool. Playing is cool, But
what counts the most is who you are as a
person away from your instrument. Are you a good thing? Right?

(18:16):
That's true and that and that's and that's what made me,
you know, follow Ricky and trying to play like Ricky
in a way. I ain't even gonna lie. I'm not
even gonna lie. Every every drummer has to style. But
I feel like I'm like the Ricky Lawton Okay, because

(18:39):
he's an A list musician.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
He plays every genre of music. He's on every he's on.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Every artist from different genres from R and B to
jazz to pop to country to gospel.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Have you heard him play gospel? I heard him, Ricky Lawson.
I heard him play gospel. But it's been a long time.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
I know. He's a beast.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
He's a monster when he plays gospel, well, a very
very among his monster. But the main thing that's very
that's very inspiring is he takes no credit for what
he does.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Amen. Amen. And he's a good thing about that.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, he takes no credit and me to God. Yeah,
and I'm gonna say I get weirded out when people
give me credit. I'm like, uh, give that person credit.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
I don't want it exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Because we always talk about that.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
We always talk about that. I mean you always talk
about that. When you take.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
The credit for what God has given, then you get
the big head?

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Am I correct? Correct?

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Seeing that happen so many times, Yeah, it's not a
good feeling.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Sick, very sick me.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
But besides him being all, besides him being an awesome player,
if if Humble was a person, Ricky Lawson would be
will be that definition of humility and humble.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Okay, I got you.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah. Also, and then let's say, you know, from from
uh from Detroit, we are going to go over?

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yah? Should we go over?

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Should we go down? Should we go you know what?

Speaker 7 (20:57):
Let's uh yeah, let's let's let's uh, let's go to Texas. Okay, yeah,
let's go to Texas.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
You know, he's no stranger to music. He's a Grammy
Award winning drummer, producer, composer. Uh to see him with
with snarky puppy.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Oh yeah yeah, oh yeah, you see him.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
With snarky puppy you will find him on records with
Derenda Clark Cole. Uh yeah, yeah, come on, god yeah,
God's property. Even Kirk Franklin.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Oh yes, yes, Kurt, I remember that.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Uh you know, without no further ado, Uncle Sputt, Robert Sputt.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Seawright, yes, sir, yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
What can I say about Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness,
especially when he did that that it came it was
a fast beating then with starky puppy, then it went
down to a slow beating and he just broke it down.
Oh my goodness, that's one of his lives.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I'm I'm remembering that live when he did that.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
In the dining.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Room, in the dining room, in the dining room, they
it was like uh with they had.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
It was like a green background and they was all
standing together. And it wasn't the live one, but it
was they was in the like a dining room setting,
but not the one. And it was in far as
far as of the general the dinner dinner what I'm
talking about that it was like a little lunching, gotcha. Yeah, yeah,

(23:14):
I must say Spud.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
See right, he's not just a drummer, you know. He
plays keys.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yes, A.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
The only thing is he doesn't know how I sing,
or if he does sing, he's probably singing out chords
and melodies.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
That's all.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
That's That's basically what a musician does, sings the chords
or either.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Seeing the numbers, right, yeah, oh yes, oh yes. So
we went from Detroit, we went to the.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Now shall we go.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
To Nashville, Tennessee, colon, Let's let's do it. Okay, So Nashville, Tennessee.
All right, he's not he's very known for playing for
playing in the country music sector. Yes, we're going to country. Yes, okay,
he's a. He's a very great session player. You could

(24:17):
you'll find him on Reapa McIntyre's album Shanaiah Twain.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
You can even see him on with the Grand ol
Opry and Tennessee. He's a very great session He's a
They don't call him a sessions great for no apparent reason,
you know, thirty plus years in the music industry, especially
you know, playing for Shania Twains, Reba McIntyre, uh, Lionel Ritchie.

(24:47):
The list goes on and on and on, and let's
let let's let's call mister Paul Line a Nashville ess
and great. He's very he's very serious. But when he plays,

(25:07):
you can hear the passion, you can feel the passion
when he plays. And he also gives greater He also
gives great advice.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yes, sir, should we do a drum roll for him?

Speaker 2 (25:25):
A drum roll? Right, drum roll please? It's the stuff, yes, lord, yes, yes,
Paul Line, we we we love you and you keep
doing great things.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yes, Yes, he's a og like you.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Man. Definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely. I've been in I've been
in this industry. I've been in this industry for fifty
three years. Man, That's that's the long of that I've
been on. Wise, Nah, you can I understand. But but

(26:05):
it's a blessing. It's a blessing. You're gonna enjoy every
bit of it, believe me.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Oh yes, yes, Lloyd, Yes, Lloyd. We tell him yes
and thank you all the time, all the time.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
First, so we went from Detroit to Texas to Nashville.
Now I must say we're gonna go down to uh,
We're gonna we're gonna go to Atlanta, Georgia. Ooh we okay,

(26:40):
Atlanta Georgia. You can you can hear this guy. He's
a he's a native from Saint Louis, Missouri. He comes
from a he comes from a musical family, you know,
out of Saint Louis, very well known family in Saint Louis.
Awesome people. Even the guitar player, you know, his uncle

(27:03):
is great. He's known by his uncle is known as
Happy Guitar.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
So you can find him on the Potter's House records
from Winging a Prayer and the previous record before the
Winging and Prayer. You can find him on Marvin SAPs
record Diary of a Psalmist, Yes, I remember that one.

(27:32):
You can find him also with the New Birth Mass
Choir on Suddenly and the not the recent but the
second album after Suddenly. So, without further ado, we're gonna welcome.
Let's give a round of applause for mister Jeremy Haynes.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yes, that's awesome, awesome, yes, awesome.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
What I like about Jeremy Haynes is not only he's
just a drummer, but he's also a producer and a ranger.
Also he's a five time Grammy Award winning drummer.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Oh my goodness, that's a blessing.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, not too many can say. Not too many people
can say that.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Five time, five time Grammy Award winning drummer. Hey, you know, yes,
those are goals right there. Yeah, those our goals. You
know it's a contribution, contribution to the gospel music. Yeah, hey, yes,
gets no better than that, no better, no better, no better,

(28:42):
so no better. So I'm just grateful on my situation.
But I'm gonna take it down another. We're gonna go
on for worship and praise over today, all right, you ready,
We're gonna go into some serious worshiping praise on today.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
The reason why we're going up to some citious worship
and praise because of the testimony that.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
I have given you on.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Today far as of the product that's going to be
happening soon sooner than there. It's not it's not gonna
be no no years now. It's going to be literally
within ninety to one hundred to ninety days, ninety to

(29:32):
one hundred.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Days, as they say, as Dobie Pal say, the time
is now at hallelujah.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
M hmmmmmm.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
So number five, we're gonna go go all the way
to Chicago all noise, oh my birthplace. We're gonna go
all the way to Chicago, Illinoise. This Maestro's uh, one
of the kind. There's no one that can beat or

(30:04):
not even be There's no one can have any say
so about this situation or whatever. Can you know, can
nobody can do this?

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Young man rest in heaven. I'm our mischieves so much.
We're going to.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Say, Reverend Milton Bronson and the Thompson Community Community Choir,
for the good of them, for the good of them,
for the good of them. You understand what I'm saying now,
for the good.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Of them, for the good of them. What was methid evil?

Speaker 2 (30:51):
God? Maybe it turning around for good.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Hallelujah. That's what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
For the good of them. That's there, and testimoney for
the good of him.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
And do you know, huh have you heard that that course.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Part no matter brother problems and then they go with the.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
You can't solve them? Right, that's a nice a blessing
of Christ. What would you get? And do you know
that uh.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
The milk the Reverend Milton Bronson and uh in the
community choir there a Grammy Award winning choir.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yes, yes, most definitely, And.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Shout outs to the big Homie the Big Brother Kevin
Bronson for his contributions on the drums.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yes, yes, sir, yes sir. Yes.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Oh my goodness, there's a there's a crazy story. I'm
sure this crazy story it's gonna be It's gonna be short,
sweet and simple. Uh, Kevin Bronson knows my grandmother. My
grandmother used to go to that church.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
So that's a lot of history. Yeah, so I have
history with that family.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Wow. You know what.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
I was just in the Chicago probably probably like five
or six years with the passing of my my cousin.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
I'm missing my cousin right now, but I ain't nonna
telling him.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
I'm probably past that church, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Or you probably was in that church. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah, that was a great That was a great experience
just to be in Chicago.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
I even went to go see one of the.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Spots of one of one of my favorite shows, Chicago Fire.
You like Chicago Fire, Uh.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Not a fan of it, but it's all right, but
Chicago Pet. Oh, Yeah, that that's my show right there.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Past anything sergeant.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Hey, yeah, Sergeant Hank Void, that's my pastor.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Anything Chicago does. I love it? You know, anything Chicago.
Does I love it. So we're gonna go all the way.
We're gonna go.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
From Chicago and we're gonna go to the Carolinas again.
Hello Carolina right now where I'm at, right now, we
got John Peter No, no, something better.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
But they can't both they both can go head to head.
Let's put it like this, Fred hamon.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Fred Hammond, he's from the Carolinas.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Yeah, yeah, I thought he was.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
From Detroit, but I've seen Carolina's on on the webs,
so he came probably from to put Detroit and saying
he's from uh Carolina's but uh, I love fred Hammon,

(34:26):
but I know he's probably said he's because he's over there.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
He's he's all in.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Everywhere, right as to Fred Hammond, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
After thread, That's what I'm trying to say. Yeah, So
we're gonna we're gonna go to my my other city
on my other part of the country. We're gonna go
to the West Coast again. And you know, I love
this young lady to death. She's I've been following her

(34:59):
for quite some time. And I told you.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
That I missed.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
I hate that I missed that I missed her. At
the gm W a uh ah choir. They had a
concert at that time, miss lebt uh mena bird Bird
miles And you know that song uh.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
While walk on Water. Yes, you've seen that. You heard
that rhythm.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
That rhythm is sick. Anything she does is sick from
even even from the melodies too. And she has the
even from the melody to the to the the old
the old fashioned songs all the way to the up temple.
One too many songs. She's she's a no joke.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
None what whatever.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
You know. It's always good to learn something fresh and
something you know, organic. And she gives that.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
She gives that.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
It is natural to her. It comes natural for her.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yes, yes, right, gets no better than that, Yes, sir, Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
We're going all the way, going, going all the way
to Detroit, Detroit. We're going all the way to Detroit.
We're going into a worship experience.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
I was listening to.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Her, matter of fact, yesterday today, all the way from
Sunday because of this situation. The greatness of God, what
He's doing in my life. C. C.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Whinings hold forever. We we want.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
We love the wine, we love the winings. Yes, And
she was just at the NAMN show. Yeah, yes, yeah,
and you Yeah, we love it. We love CC winers.

(37:23):
If you're out there, you got you gotta be on
a show, if you're out there listening. So whoever is
connected to CC listeners, Yes, we will, we will love
to bring her on your show.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Definitely, definitely anytime that tap in CC. You can come
in anytime. We'll we'll we'll interview you anytime, and my
co host and I will be glad to uh interview you.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, yep, aunt CC.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
On CC exactly.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
She got. She probably gonna be like, man, what's wrong
with these kids? They crazy?

Speaker 3 (38:14):
I love them.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
They'll be like, all right, go ahead, bro. They were like,
who who are these people?

Speaker 3 (38:27):
I like them? They're great. Okay, all right, we'll go.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Well, what's the next city?

Speaker 3 (38:36):
We're going to number one? Number one, number one.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
This is the one I called you and I told
you you need to listen to this. Uh, we're going
all the way to Texas. Hello Charles, Hallelujah, Charles Shaw
University h b c U Texas Quad College Choir. Jesus

(39:03):
keeping keeps on opening doors for me, making a way
for me. Listen to their YouTube vision and I listen
to them today and they're not They're.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Not a joke. They're they're they're they're not a joke.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
I was listening there the rehearsal, the rehearsal way, and
I was listening to the.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
The the live and it was like wow.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
At the end of the day there then it's a
force not to be reckoned with you.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Mm hm, and so not to.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
God is really working in and us on this these shows.
And I'm really thankful for you as coming on as
our co host on his didition Matters.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
You has been a great aspect on this show and
I wouldn't trade you for nothing. I wouldn't trade you
for nothing, little Bro. I would like to thank Jerry Royce,
our engineer Positive Power on twenty one Christian Media LLC,

(40:28):
for opening these doors and just saying yes, you can
do your show on this platform, reaching over one hundred
and twenty countries as we speak right now. Thank the
United Kingdom, our most listeners in the United States for

(40:50):
listening to us as we speak.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
And most likely man, let's just thank guys.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Hot.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Yeah, if we are, if we really want to get
down to seriousness, yeah, we're just gonna thank God for
all of this, because without him, none of this would
never happen. I would never met you, we would never
cross paths.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Yes, sir, hallelujah. Just in general, it's a blessing. It's
a blessing.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Just just in general, we just thank God. And it's
always in a book of Psalms. It's always good to
give thanks, and we just I'm just gonna leave it
right there if I get that.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Come on, come on, come on, rap.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
It's always good to give thanks because, as they say,
when I think, I think, okay, I'm done.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
The goodness of Jesus, hallelujah and all that He's done
for me, my soul has cried off, hallelujah, and I
thank God for saving me.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
And Jesus's that's one of those oh oh oh him.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Thanks to my grandmother Lula Belle Mason for singing one
of those songs, in my aunt Stella Parson Mason for
just singing one of those songs, and my mother mother Henry,
for just singing one of those songs and.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Giving me my baby Ruth.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
You know, you know, sneaking out the perse, you know,
you know, when I was.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
A little kid, a church man, I missed the church mothers.
You know, they always got that good candy in that purse.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Yeah, yeah, I was, you know, mother Henry.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
I love her to death.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
You know, she was our church mother, our first church brother.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
In Vegas View.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
And I can remember, you know, back in the days
that when I was going to I would come to
the church, I would go make sure that she's out
of her house next door to the church, inside the
church to walk to the church. So I would be

(43:25):
her her armor just to get inside the church. That's
basically how I was.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
It wasn't about the baby, rue, Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
It was about the love, you know. You know, she
she just loved on us like it was it was nothing.
You know, it was a blessing.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
She spoiled you. She yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Most definitely, most definitely. So listeners, we thank you guys
for listening on on this show and and.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Next week.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Stay tuned for another session of the Top ten music episodes.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Were signing off be Blessed. Hey you listen me to
JUS world Wide podcast.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Join me at your host Roger.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Swift and boy do I have what for you?

Speaker 4 (44:28):
Musicians Matter podcast right down here. Third st five year Pricific.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Extended us to spend the time on a digital platform.

Speaker 7 (44:44):
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