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November 18, 2025 • 58 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Let's go on and always.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Remember there is.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Welcome to another session on Musicians Matters. We have a
dynamic show on tonight. Let's welcome our host. I guess
our host.

Speaker 5 (00:44):
What's going on?

Speaker 6 (00:47):
Hello?

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Hey, what's going on? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (00:52):
Yeah, we got a dynamic guest on tonight. I know
you guys looked it up right.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
I did, and listen. I'm excited, man, Like, just just here,
just hearing her music just got me excited. I was like, Wow,
this is gonna be off the charts.

Speaker 7 (01:19):
Yeah, this is actually I'm actually going to leave this
up to you guys. I'm I'm gonna basically be talking
a little bit. But we'll talk about that issue on
a little bit later. I'll just ask you, guys, and
I ask the world to please pray for me on
this time for me.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
But let's welcome.

Speaker 7 (01:44):
I guess the cover of Girl, What's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
What's up? Cover? Girl.

Speaker 6 (01:52):
Hello everyone, that's got a pleasure being here, being with
you guys evening.

Speaker 7 (02:02):
Yeah, yeah, you see how excited the tunnel is about
seeing the cover girl on the tonight. What's going on?

Speaker 6 (02:17):
I was excited to be here.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
How was the day on today?

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah? How was your day on today?

Speaker 5 (02:25):
Cover Girl's going pretty going pretty good.

Speaker 6 (02:29):
I had had had a maid back Tuesday, since I
don't get since I play on the weekends, I make
Monday and Tuesday by seventh.

Speaker 7 (02:40):
Awesome, awesome, Oh my goodness, So so go check so
check this out. Basically, h what happened is Saturday and Sunday.
Now I'm just messing with you.

Speaker 6 (02:56):
I'm playing Monday. So I had to pick it to
get some rest. And that's either Monday or say.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
It.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
I love it. That's what I love. Yeah, so cool.
So who is the cover girl?

Speaker 5 (03:13):
Who?

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Like? How did your name come about?

Speaker 6 (03:17):
So? My name came about? I Actually I don't do
it much anymore, but before I used to do a
cover tunes on social media, and I would do videos
of me just reinventing music, and I would play the
drums and play the keyboard, playing bass guitar, and I

(03:39):
would do cover tunes, So that's where the name the
cover Girl came from. I used to go by Musical Genius,
but it was spelling in a different way and it
was kind of hard for people to remember. So I said, hey,
people remember the cover Girl. So I kind of, you know,

(04:00):
went over to the cover Girl and.

Speaker 8 (04:01):
It stuck with me.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
So where So, if you don't mind me asking, I'm excited,
where did your musical ability start?

Speaker 6 (04:10):
Like?

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Where did the roots start from? At what age? Well?

Speaker 6 (04:16):
I began playing the drums at the age of three.
My will my uncle was a minister. My granddad was
a minister. So my mom played the origin for my
uncle's church and I literally got up out of the
pew and just started playing the drums. So I began
playing with my mom on Sundays. I played the drums

(04:39):
solely until I was about sixteen or seventeen and my
church needed another musician because my mother was kind of
stretched in, And also I was over the choir in
my high school and all of our musicians had graduated,
so I began picking up the piano and the bass guitar.

Speaker 8 (05:02):
Around that time.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
So so, uh so, not not only with with that,
I know it's kind of backwards. But where where is
the cover Girl originally from?

Speaker 6 (05:18):
So I live in I'm I'm from Cleveland, Ohio, Okay,
And I think Ohio, You're.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Not far from me. You're not far from me, Okay.
I'm in Kansas City, Kansas, Kansas City, Missouri.

Speaker 8 (05:37):
Yeah, yeah, not too far at all.

Speaker 6 (05:41):
Wow, not too far off. But yes, I'm in Cleveland, Ohio.
I was born and raised here. I left for a
couple of years. I went to Dayton, Ohio. I went
to college at Central State University, and I came back home.
I eventually plan on leaving and going somewhere else, but
for right now, I'm here with my family, So I'm.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
Happy, Okay.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
And then so what are your main So your main
your musical influences and did those influences help cultivate who
the cover Girl is today? Uh?

Speaker 6 (06:22):
Definitely. So A lot of my musical influences are people
from my hometown. Really, I started off, I started off
just watching people around me play, and those people were
my influences. So drummers around the city, a guy named

(06:42):
Eric Bias. Actually, at the time when I was growing
up in Shedding and really getting better, a drummer named
Chris Coleman lived here in the city, but we we
Cleveland is really such a netherland of musicians that I
really didn't have many outside.

Speaker 8 (07:01):
Sources other than the musicians her here.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
So I had so many great like uh just influences
around me everywhere every day as I got as I
began to play keys, there were two women who actually
I really wanted to play keys. I wanted to play
orgon because I fell in love in high school with
Tweaty Clarks honestly.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
And okay, Twinkie, I'm telling you.

Speaker 6 (07:30):
And I used to listen to the Clark.

Speaker 8 (07:32):
Sisters like my life depending on it.

Speaker 6 (07:35):
So there were two women in my life that were
organists that kind of helped me to understand what she
was swearing and they helped me along the way. So
their names are Deleene James and e Shaeffer, which are
two local musicians here. If I have to talk about
musicians on a worldwide scale, drums is gonna be spot

(07:57):
It's gonna be Calvin Rodgers, Aaron Spears, uh Man, and
she would eve just. Those are drum influences for sure.
Terry Lynn Carrington, uh Cindy Blackwell, Sidney Blackman, just you
name it, I can glean. I feel like, you know,

(08:19):
you're you're always.

Speaker 8 (08:20):
A student, so if nobody can't learn the ing something.

Speaker 6 (08:24):
Definitely keyboard influences, Twinkie Clark is number one for me.
But now I love all the new guys like the
Glenn hed Sings and Nick Corey Henry's and those guys.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (08:37):
There's another young lady who's really big on social media
named Dominique Johnson. She's amazing.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Oh yeah, she's right next door to you Chicago.

Speaker 6 (08:47):
Yeah, yes, yes, yes, definitely, yeah, you know, just watching
people like that, it gives me hope. Uh, banks, I
would I would definitely say like Victor the Victor Rulin's
Little World, Victor Wooden when I was coming at Maurice Gerald,
you know, you name it like those, Like, yeah, I've

(09:09):
had so many influences. I'll be sitting here talking all night.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
And that's why you're on the show because so we
can talk about this stuff. So with with all that, well,
I can't say, with all that being said, do you
have any kind of stories that you want to share,
like any kind of bloopers, what happened on a gig

(09:38):
or in church? I'm excited. Check it out. Check this out,
Check this out.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
My favorite is I like to watch her live.

Speaker 8 (09:53):
Yeah, yeah, she's amazing.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
I don't know any group of stories. You know, when
you put on the spot, you can't think of anything.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
It's like my brain, Come on, now, I know you've
got something. Did a stick fly out your hand while
you playing? Did the sticks?

Speaker 6 (10:21):
So if you if you watch my videos, you see
that I were really really long hair, and I was
solo and on a on a gig, on a show
that I was doing actually was a climax. And in
the middle of my solo, my hair started wrapping around

(10:41):
the stick.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
You've seen it, rod, I seen it.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
I was.

Speaker 6 (10:51):
To get him away. I just go away with the
solo because I had got tangled up with the stick
in my hand. So that that actually happened to me recently.

Speaker 8 (11:04):
That wasn't that long ago.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Wow, Well, well, cover girl, you you you're gonna have
to put your hair up in a bun or something.

Speaker 6 (11:13):
Never never, you know, well, every now and then, I mean,
I guess it's different being a girl plan, but every
now and then I have a hair a hair snap.
But yeah, that that it got the best of me
that time. It really did. She got caught in from

(11:35):
the wood and the stick. It was terrible. It was terrible.
I have a question.

Speaker 9 (11:46):
From a drummer. You might have already acceded, but I
can promise you I have a reason why.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
I'm asking what made you be?

Speaker 6 (11:54):
What was your passion? What may you become a drummer? Actually,
so when I'm was younger, my mom and my aunt
used to play the drums.

Speaker 8 (12:04):
So, okay, I be.

Speaker 6 (12:05):
I really just I've been playing drums as long as
I can remember, Like it was just it was just
my first love. I think that I got inspired to
learn more by you know, when I got to high school,
I kind of hung with the guys all the time,
and I hung with the guys that played. So I
used to my when I was when I was younger, Honestly,

(12:28):
I found some keys at my My granddad was a pastor,
and I found some keys on the back bench of
his church, and I just held onto them. I never
told nobody I found some lost keys, but I said,
if somebody said something about these keys, I'm gonna give
them up. But if they don't, I'm gonna keep them.
I gave it like two or three weeks and nobody

(12:49):
claimed the keys. If I ended up having keys to
my granddad's church, which is really key in my musicianship
because I began because I had those keys. I would
write the bus down to my church every day after school. Wow,
I would have my friends meet me down there. And
that is the time of my life that I was

(13:10):
really sharpened as a musician. So I would say those
turkeys really say changed my life. It really did, because
I began to play other things, and it made me
better as a drummer because they put me in a
place and in the area that I could play and
practice every single day. You know, I never I don't

(13:31):
think I was really a kid to ask for a
lot of stuff. So I didn't have a drum set
at home or anything like that. So to just to
have the freedom to go to my granddad's church, and
once he found out I had the keys, he didn't
take them, like he would just come and sit and
work around the church and let us make nooy. So that,
you know, it was even better. So I think my
inspirations just came from those turkeys.

Speaker 8 (13:54):
Won't tell you.

Speaker 6 (13:59):
I like a heart for these I love music. It's
like dear to me. So uh, it was just second
It's just second nature. It is what I love to do.
So I just you know, I took that time, and yeah,
it just grew as much as I could. And it
was just for fun. It wasn't even to work. It
was it was really fun.

Speaker 8 (14:20):
So yeah, I hope that answered it. But thank you
for sharing you that definitely answered. Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
Check this out cover girl.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Go ahead, check this out cover girl.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
I know you love playing the keys. I know you
are me and the gigs.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
I've seen it.

Speaker 7 (14:40):
I've seen it from my own eyes two years ago.
But most musicians that some musicians that that's out there
are learning how to play keys and they only can
play in certain keys. But is your favorite key that

(15:01):
you like to play in?

Speaker 8 (15:03):
Good question?

Speaker 6 (15:04):
Ain't flatter?

Speaker 8 (15:05):
Is the Holy key?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (15:08):
That's a that's a man when I talked about.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
On Sunday at my home church, when I'm playing there,
I tell them we're going to the Holy key.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
The Holy key a flat flat that's my that's my
pastor's key when he feels real good. But well, I
like the kid the ki of Si. It does it
for me.

Speaker 6 (15:36):
And in the key of f Okay, ain't flat from
the day. Ain't flatten me on day?

Speaker 7 (15:46):
Now, when I hear that ain't flat, I know it's
something really getting ready to start.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
Uh yeah, yeah, I'm an a flatter on the day.
That's that's my that's my key, flat headquarters they sit
down there, that's my that's my go to.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
What about the majors and the minors?

Speaker 6 (16:08):
The majors and the minors? Uh, A flat is my key.
I'm a pick F minor day.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
What a flat with F minor?

Speaker 5 (16:23):
Ah?

Speaker 3 (16:23):
My no, Hey, to each his own. I commend you.
So since we're talking, since we're talking about keys, so
I know a flat is like the holy key for you.

(16:45):
So did it motivate you to go across the board
to learn different keys that you that you don't that
you're not comfortable with, or a flat was just you know,
that was just the beginning of something spectacular.

Speaker 6 (17:03):
So actually, when I started playing the keyboard, I started
playing in D flats actually, and I just ventured to
a flat, you know, And then I started saying that
C shark feels like a flat. Like you know, now
I'm gonna say something and people probably don't dog me
for it, but I am not one of the musicians

(17:25):
that it gets transposed like.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
I'm transposed, that that's cheaty.

Speaker 6 (17:31):
No, I'm gonna say this, and I don't think of
it as cheating, because everybody is not in the same
place in their musical walk that you are. And sometimes
and sometimes and just like you're in Cleveland, there are
more churches than there are musicians. And honestly, for a

(17:54):
long time I was one of them transposing musicians. I was,
but urntreat care that I was transposing. But I wasn't.
I wouldn't achieve myself as well though, because if I
had to learn a song, I'm gonna learn it in
that key, and that's gonna help me to playing other keys.
It's not the transposing that's the problem. It's when you're transposing.

(18:18):
If you're practicing at home and you even transpose, that's
a problem. When you get time to practice, that's when
you expound in those other keys. But when it's time
to play, you can't sit there and practice on nobody else.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
That's true. They gonna look at you like what's wrong
with you?

Speaker 6 (18:36):
Exactly? They're gonna look at you like you crazy. That's
not no time to practice. When it's time for somebody
to be on the floor and saying, you better do
the best you can while you can. But when you're practicing,
that's when it's important not to transpose. So I do
not down when you vision that transpose it because I
mean it to be all the way honest. Some people
don't even get it. Some people don't even understand how

(18:59):
to take them out of that one place. You know,
And while if that's where you are in your musical walk,
who am I to you know say that that, you
know that's cheating or whatever. It may not be cheating
for you. Maybe you work all day and you don't
have the time.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
You know.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
Everybody's schedule is different, everybody's life is different. People's lives
are set up differently, and that transpose may just get
you through. So I am not anti transposed. I'm just
not I never will be.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Check it out. Yes, I love it. I love it.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
Oh my goodness, I.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Know you got something else.

Speaker 6 (19:41):
Yeah, I'm waiting on the something else firt.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (19:45):
When is your what is your favorite moment?

Speaker 5 (19:49):
What is your favorite moment when you're playing?

Speaker 6 (19:54):
To be claim, I don't know that's my favorite moment.

Speaker 9 (20:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
I think I think I just love to play, so
whether that, I think my favorite moments are like playing
with other people and when the band actually locks and
oh yeah, I'm like, do you have that great pod
with just other band members and it's just a great night.
I don't know. I just I love to play. Like

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anytime I get to play, it's my favorite moment.

Speaker 8 (20:25):
I try to make it count awesome.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
That's what's ub. That's what's up. I'm listen, uh ride
and Candy. I don't want this to ended. This is
getting real good. Yeah, they're just getting there. Is getting
good better than a better than cookies?

Speaker 8 (20:49):
Yes, oh god, not the cookies.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah, now, t T my week this ready your cookies
ready every week? And so your cookies those are my weakness.

(21:12):
The chocolate chunk, peanut butter chip, Oh my goodness.

Speaker 6 (21:17):
And I'm I'm sneaker duding with sugar cookie with oh
my mat Roger, oh my, I understand.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yes, I had. I had six of them u Sunday
and it was wonderful, fresh out the oven, with the
with the glass and metal cakes. It was just wonderful.

Speaker 6 (21:47):
Nothing like that. Sugar cookies they like melt in your mouth.
I'm telling you.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
You know what I'm gonna I'm gonna try that sugar
cookie next.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
It's like especially when it's warm, it's like super soft.
I'm telling it, like else in your mouth for real,
You're amazing.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
So and that's how you view music as a sugar
cookie fresh out the other.

Speaker 7 (22:13):
So, Okay, we're always learning, you know.

Speaker 8 (22:25):
Something. Definitely always learning, definitely.

Speaker 10 (22:30):
And you can get And what I'm trying to say
is you can't. If you stop learning, then you got
a problem.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
Definitely, definitely. And it really with music, it's it's really
so much to learn.

Speaker 8 (22:50):
It really is so much to learn.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
It so many different fast there's so many different genres,
there's so many different you know, just just different things
to learn, so many different dials. No, it really is
so much to learn.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
No, are you good? Are you? Are you?

Speaker 7 (23:08):
I know I'm messing up. I'm tripping out right, I'm
tripping out. I'm asking her, are you good?

Speaker 6 (23:20):
What do the best? I can check this.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
Out, sairs, check this out. I'm over saying that.

Speaker 7 (23:30):
And I'm literally seeing her uh in uh in the
moment at the drum clinic at Cornerstones. I mean, she
was like playing these keys.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
And she was like.

Speaker 7 (23:52):
A me in an odd moment. You know, my mouth
was like I was speechless, literally ageless. I was literally speechless,
because you know, when you have someone that's very talented

(24:13):
in what you do and what he or she do
and you take it to heart, that's a blessing. That's
really a blessing that you take it to heart and
you know what you're doing and you study your craft.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Right.

Speaker 6 (24:35):
Yeah, I try to do it as much as I can.
I know I don't have as much time as I
did when I was younger, which I wish I did.
But I'm grateful. I really am grateful that I get
to do the job that I.

Speaker 8 (24:51):
Love to do every day.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
I'm speaking of that.

Speaker 7 (24:55):
Speaking speaking of that, Speaking of that, let's say happy
birthday to her.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Happy birthday, birthday. Today's your birthday? Yes, you just celebrated
the birthday.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
And how was that birthday party?

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (25:11):
I did. I had a I did a concert and
I celebrated with my city. I told him I wanted
to celebrate with them, so we had a concert. Somebody said,
I had a guy from explosion.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
One problem t T you know you want you didn't
invite us. See I'm quick to hop on a plane.

Speaker 7 (25:31):
Come on, now, everybody, everybody was invited. You just had
to see it, and you had to see the flyer.

Speaker 6 (25:47):
Basically, I just didn't know if y'all wanted to come
all the way to Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Listen, I'm down to try out a new city as
long as there's in Sonia cookies there.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
But yeah, we may not have as many as a
lot of other people have.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
The Oh yes, yes, that that's that's good enough.

Speaker 6 (26:10):
Yeah, we have two of them. So you'll be all
and gets on a plane with me. I'll come, but
I'm not riding along. Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
All right, okay, Roder, what what what? What? What about? You
don't forget the Swiss sauce for the bar.

Speaker 7 (26:35):
Because the Swiss sauce, Swiss sauce is going on. It's
it's it's always always anytime, like like I said, anytime
I put my hands in.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
My my my.

Speaker 7 (26:49):
My hands in motion, it's it's it's all good because
I made match. Actually, I made macaroni and cheese week
full last. And it's not that macaloney cheese off the box.
It's that macaloney cheese that's made with the cheese sauce.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
Now, he wants to talk about after it's done and gone.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Hey, how much do you have left? By the way, right,
I have enough to send to you. Okay, bet sleep,
you know I can go grab right. So so cover

(27:39):
girl with with uh with the music abilities, the musical
talents that you have inquired throughout the years. Did you
feel like, you know with your peers, you know they're
in the streets and stuff. Do you feel that music
saved your life in any fashion or any shape.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
Definitely. I feel like I feel like music definitely saved
my life, and not only my life, the life of
my friends were around me because it gave me. It
gave me something to do, I think a lot of
and being in music, it made me go after different music.
And I say that because I really think that like

(28:30):
rap music and the music around like really shapes our atmosphere,
it really shapes our kids. And I never was really
into that, like, you know, not saying I wasn't into
R and B or I didn't listen to rap, but
it just wasn't that really wasn't my my thing. It
didn't it wasn't what I attached to, like you know,
when I was in high school and being in music

(28:52):
listening to more musical things and you know, just had
that love for music. I really do believe that it
Camot and that kind of thing and can't be away
from that crowd. You know, it made me, It made
me cling to the type of crowd of people. So yes,

(29:13):
I I strongly believe that unique uh saved my life.
I really do.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Wow, now I have a testimony within itself right there.

Speaker 6 (29:26):
Yeah, I mean really honestly, when I wasn't even you know,
I wasn't in high school and on going high school,
I was always that kid that was kind of like
to myself and I did necessari know which way I
wanted to go. And it was a music teacher that

(29:48):
was like, hey, a lot of people don't know this
my name. I go by T T as an adult
because my name, my real name is Lucretia. My mother's
name is Lucre as well, and.

Speaker 8 (30:01):
She's a singer here in the city.

Speaker 6 (30:04):
So when my teacher saw my name, she said, hey,
you a Christy Bottles daughter. You have to be able
to do something musically, and she started she put me
over her choir. I would I would like she would
give me excuse for my classes to come and teach
her choir, and that is what really pushed my pushed

(30:25):
me into music. That's what made me love music. Is
that that moment and that let me know that music
is what I was gonna be doing for the rest
of my life. So yeah, it really did. He saved me.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Wow, Dad, that's awesome to hear. I think we all
should just link up and go to now.

Speaker 6 (30:48):
We're definitely be there.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
She's gonna be there.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Because I'm I'm gonna be there. Are you going to
be there?

Speaker 8 (30:59):
She's going to be there.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Who's going to now?

Speaker 6 (31:04):
Trying to go?

Speaker 8 (31:05):
I try to go when I can't hear, well.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
This is a this is a time where you can
go where you can and they can is now ha ha.

Speaker 6 (31:20):
Yeah, I try to go to winter now I don't.
I've never been to summer now.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
I want to go to summer now.

Speaker 8 (31:29):
Yeah, I try to go to winter.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Now.

Speaker 7 (31:34):
Let me ask you a question basically, t t uh
give me some good information or some good notes to
m d's because I know that you're a great m
d A music directory. I need to hear to give

(31:55):
some to some great you know, some some great keys
to music direc that's just starting I've been a director,
but I.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
Don't have no problems doing it well.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
I'm talking about giving.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
To a music director that's just started.

Speaker 6 (32:13):
I would say, just know your music, whatever that music
may be. Make sure you know your music, know your show,
so then when you're ready to direct your band members,
you can add or take away as much as possible.
I would also say, learn some form of programming, know

(32:35):
how to add in you know everybody. Every show doesn't
have like the huge budgets, and you know, hire people
to come in, so you know, sometimes you may have
to add into your tracks for your show. So I
would say learning programming, learning stuff like ableson live, learning
what they call dolls, like your logic and your pro

(32:58):
tools like learning that stuff and how to how to
function on LI shows that you know some shows a
lot of stuff is track heavy now, you know, and
just being prepared before the door opens. I think a
lot of people try to wait until they get to
the door and try to get prepared. But just be
prepared for as much as you can be that when

(33:23):
you get into rehearsal, know your bass player part, know
your know your guitar players part. You have to know
what you need to hear around you, so the music
can sound like what it needs to sound like for
that whatever that artist wants or whoever that artist is.
And also as a music director, knowing when to be
aggressive and when you know to sit back and listen,

(33:48):
especially like when that artist is telling.

Speaker 8 (33:51):
You what they want, sit back and listen.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
It's not about what you want, you know, you know,
you're there to do a job. So I think those
are some of the best tips that I could give
for people that are doing our music directors and just
allow everybody around you to have a good time in
spite of working.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
So that.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
So tt so is there a such is there a difference?
So as a musical director, does band coordinator falls under
the same umbrella as a musical director.

Speaker 6 (34:35):
I've never heard of the term band coordinator.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Oh okay, And the reason is, well, you know, band coordinators,
you know it just conducting, not conducting, but forming the
schedule for rehearsals, to bring the band in for rehearsals,

(35:01):
and you know, setting up rehearsals and making sure the
musicians are on you know, on track, being responsible for
other musicians as you know, for them doing their own
assignments and stuff like that. Music or science.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
No, I think in some ways, yeah, because sometimes like
you have to make sure everybody has their music. Actually,
I'm getting ready to go on to European tour right now.
I'm sitting here putting together a pholdo for my musicians music,
so you know stuff like that. I mean, outside of
sending music, I don't have to do like band schedules

(35:42):
and stuff like that. Generally somebody else does that. But
I'm just solely directing the music, like making sure the
music for the show is on points.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Wow. So if you're on mind, give us a little
insight of what this European tour is going to be
consist of, who's the artist and how many dates you're
going to be out.

Speaker 6 (36:09):
Sure. So I do a European tour every year.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
It's for.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
A big show over in Europe. It's called the Passing
Around Gospel Show, and we usually do most of our
shows are usually sold out. But we leave this time,
I think we leave. We're going for about three weeks
and we tour around different cities in Italy.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
Sometimes we go over to Switzerland, but yeah, mostly Italy,
and yeah, we tour around just doing doing our.

Speaker 8 (36:47):
Show in Italy.

Speaker 6 (36:51):
Sometimes I play the drums. This year we have some
switch up so I will be playing keyboard this Year's exciting.
But yeah, so this is something I do every December.
I do miss Christmas with my family though, but I
do it every December. I love doing it. Go over
with a great group of people and we have a

(37:13):
great time, you know, doing what we.

Speaker 8 (37:15):
Love to do.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Love it. And it's the does the food taste good
over there? I just want to know. I mean, I'm
a foodie as you can tell. I mean, my taste
Doods is having a praise break right now just talking

(37:38):
about this stuff.

Speaker 6 (37:40):
So I just had to it is good over there,
even though it is different than our food.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Okay, all right, it's.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
Different than our food. Now I will say that we
talk about it's different than our food because some of
like some of the stuff of course that's in our
food is against the law over there. So you know,
McDonald's is taste a little.

Speaker 11 (38:06):
Cleaner, okay, a little cleaner, and you can get like
they have like met casfe and there McDonald's, so you
can get desserts.

Speaker 6 (38:21):
Like pies and all kinds of stuff. It's a little
bit differently here. And then like you know we eat here.
We say that chicken alfredo is an Italian dish, but
there is no there is no city in Italy that
makes chicken alfredo. Wow. Wow, that's just something that's American eyed.
So their food is really good. I think once you

(38:44):
go over and you know what to get, you know,
you know how to enjoy the school. My favorite thing
is a result of I love risulta.

Speaker 12 (38:54):
Like.

Speaker 6 (38:56):
Yeah, it's and it's like, uh, it's like rice, but
it's like a cheesy it's like a cheesy kind of rice.
It's like a it's like a white sauce, so it's
like a afraid a kind of sauce. But they don't
make it with like chicken, or they don't make it
with like vegetables. You can get it with seafood. Now
you have to get used to have your shirt having

(39:17):
their eyes, but you gotta get used to your fish
having their eyes. But you know, once you can get
past that, you don't really enjoy the food. We we
It depends on what city you're in, what they specialize in.
You know, if you go over to Sicily, they horse
is their meat of choice, so they specialize.

Speaker 12 (39:40):
And yes, I don't know if I can do the horse.

Speaker 9 (39:55):
I can do that.

Speaker 6 (39:59):
You can buy others stuff other than the horse. But
I mean that's there like every place, like I think
Rome is no for like having better pizzas. You know
where you are? What school?

Speaker 5 (40:11):
Yeah right, that's a part of Italy. Okay, I got you.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Okay, all right, okay, that's listen. I'm off my I'm
off my rocker about horse. I really am you have
you have no idea? Somebody drip for me? You have?

(40:40):
I'm like, whoa wait a minute.

Speaker 9 (40:43):
I mean I was heek out me with the fish
and the eyes and I was like, okay, I lost.

Speaker 8 (40:52):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 13 (40:53):
What like.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Now now I'm gonna have to no, I'm nah, I'm
gonna have to ask did you try for Yes?

Speaker 8 (41:04):
I did try it. I tried it.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
I'm I gotta ask you this.

Speaker 6 (41:16):
So it's really it's really not bad. It's like it's
almost like stak not bad.

Speaker 5 (41:22):
What hold?

Speaker 6 (41:23):
It looks like a steak. It looks like a steak,
So it won't it won't. It's only because you know
it's horse. But yeah, it looks like a steak.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
I'll try it. We we we need that.

Speaker 6 (41:41):
It's really not bad. I'm telling you it really not bad.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
We need to go to the throne and brave.

Speaker 6 (41:46):
I can't keep ordering it, but I can at least
say I tried it.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
May the Lord be with you, teach with you on that. Yeah,
that part.

Speaker 6 (42:05):
I mean when I was in college. When I got
to college, that was the first time I went to Italy,
and my teacher told me, he said to us, do
not go over here and snarl at the experience because
it's a different culture. So chourger just in the culture
and learn the culture. So that really opened my mind

(42:25):
up to not necessarily because it's because it's really it
really is a different culture. Like you know, we we
believe like over here, we believe in like personal space.
They don't believe in that. Like they come up and
right your face, breath, thinking and all. But they gonna
come to talk to you and enjoy it what you did,

(42:47):
or they will like people like you know, if somebody
bumps you yours to somebody saying excuse me, that's a caulture.
They don't do that over there. So you know, people
run you and knock you over and you they don't
even say excuse me. But it's just about going over
and just you know, being a part of the culture,
you know, learning the culture. And I try to just

(43:09):
keep an open mind and say, okay, that's why I
said I try everything once just to say hey, done,
got it to the culture.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
I love it. So does I understand Like I know,
and everybody can contest to this, that music is appreciative
over over seas.

Speaker 6 (43:38):
Definitely, definitely. I mean especially our show. We do a
gospel show over there, and they somehow coincide gospel music
with like Christmas time, but they love, especially in Italy,
they love gospel music and they actually like go to

(43:59):
school and go to college to study it, just like
you got to go to college to study classical music.
They go to school and go to college to study
gospel music. So you know, they really, you know, try to.
It's amazing to see culturally and go over because we
do a lot of stuff with choirs and stuff over there,

(44:20):
and it's amazing to see how they mimic our gospel
style or how they learn it. And some people, I mean,
just like our people. You know, some people they learn
classical music and some people get it down pack and
some people don't. It's the same way over there. Some
people they they speak Italian, but they can sing gospel
music like you know, getting interested in to see and

(44:43):
be a part of and just glean from you.

Speaker 14 (44:46):
Really, go ahead, I forgot I don't know.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (45:00):
No, you don't. We got a game for you, sister.

Speaker 8 (45:07):
Okay, let's do it.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
It's called hot sauce.

Speaker 7 (45:09):
The first thing that comes to your mind after we
say one word. You gotta give us the first word
that comes to your mind. One word, the first thing
that comes to your mind after we say that first word.

Speaker 5 (45:24):
I'm gonna give four or five.

Speaker 6 (45:26):
What I have to say is one word or just
whatever comes to my.

Speaker 7 (45:30):
Mind, whatever comes to your mind, exactly, hot sauce. That's
why it's called hot sauce. Uh, he's gonna give five.
I'm gonna give five, and then uh Candy's gonna give five.

Speaker 6 (45:44):
Okay, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
All right, let's go. My first five is gonna be song.

Speaker 6 (45:55):
Song unsong, I don't.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Yes it.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
Song that's.

Speaker 7 (46:08):
M okay, go for it, okay, song, give me your
first song?

Speaker 15 (46:16):
Oh okay, all right, okay, food, Oh chickens, why are
you the same horse?

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Oh my goodness, this is good. Oh yes, keep it coming,
Come on, y'all white and black keys.

Speaker 6 (46:50):
Cord. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Session, that's uh.

Speaker 6 (47:05):
Recording. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
All right, okay, I'm done my mind. What you got doctor?

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Okay? So all right? Uh how about the psalm.

Speaker 6 (47:18):
Of almost silenced? He said, song.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Song song p S A L M song, David, I
don't know, Yes, there we go. Yeah, yeah, she's talking
now she ready? Yeah, yeah, she's ready. Okay, So so

(47:51):
you got so you said some of David? All right, good,
all right? How how about uh joyful.

Speaker 6 (48:01):
George?

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah, Well we we're gonna do well,
we're going we're going to say insomnia cookies when I
when we go out.

Speaker 16 (48:12):
There, okay, all right?

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Uh fear of.

Speaker 6 (48:33):
Fear of flying.

Speaker 7 (48:37):
Okay, oh yes, yes, yes amen, amen of that?

Speaker 8 (48:46):
How many?

Speaker 3 (48:47):
How many was that? That's one? Two? That's three? Okay? Sorry?
Two more? Okay? I will.

Speaker 6 (48:56):
What's learn at all time?

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Yes? Yes, yes, yes, oh yes yes. And my last
one is let.

Speaker 6 (49:12):
Let's get together and see right.

Speaker 13 (49:17):
I don't know, go ahead, I love it right, go ahead,
And I'm a copycat off of Philip.

Speaker 6 (49:35):
I can do all things. Who Christ that strengthens me?

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Ay?

Speaker 9 (49:42):
All right, trust in the.

Speaker 6 (49:44):
Lord with all your part and lean out that. I
don't understand it all. I was looking for work. You
gave me a whole Okay.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Hey we got we need a part two for this one.

Speaker 7 (50:00):
We do.

Speaker 8 (50:01):
I really loved it.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
I loved it so much.

Speaker 6 (50:05):
Okay, I'm gonna leave that alone. Will up.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Top, will, will of God, okay, will of God, will
of fortune.

Speaker 6 (50:21):
I was looking for, thank God? All right?

Speaker 3 (50:33):
All right?

Speaker 6 (50:33):
What's that three? Okay?

Speaker 8 (50:36):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (50:38):
Cookies in cookies and cream cookies?

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Yes, yes, yes, okay, Then I got one for let's see,
let's see.

Speaker 8 (50:54):
I'm trying to get away from food. Let me speak
because I'm hungry, right.

Speaker 9 (51:03):
I don't know, I want to Okay, just off the
top of my head. Because I heard Bro saying mac.

Speaker 6 (51:09):
And mac and chili.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Where that comes from?

Speaker 6 (51:20):
What did he come from?

Speaker 3 (51:23):
That's that's why mac chilly.

Speaker 6 (51:27):
Okay, I'm gonna definitely try it.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
I'm gonna try that now.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
I'm gonna try with.

Speaker 6 (51:34):
Mac and chili. Okay, macats with chili and doritos. Oh
it sounds crazy, that sounds good. My friends. Me and
my friends have a mac chilli party and wow.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
With chillily in for that one.

Speaker 8 (51:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (52:02):
Wow, Wow, wow, Mack and Chilly never had.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
That's crazy. Hey we should fly out. We should fly
out just for that, for that party. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
Yeah, have to come.

Speaker 6 (52:21):
Pick me up first. I'm not right.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Did you hear what she just said? What?

Speaker 7 (52:28):
What?

Speaker 3 (52:28):
What was she saying?

Speaker 9 (52:33):
Come on from Cali, pick me up and we're gonna
all fly together.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Okay, the winner.

Speaker 7 (52:45):
But you know what, this show has been amazing show.
I would not trade this show for nothing. We're gonna definitely,
we're definitely gonna have to do this again, t T.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Because you got.

Speaker 5 (53:00):
A a lot of lot, a lot of knowledge.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
That you can give it to this world.

Speaker 7 (53:05):
And we're reaching over one hundred we're reaching over one
hundred and fifty countries. And you know the people that
that that you're going to see and you're going to
play for it, they are listening right now as we speaking.
And so let's make it happen. Let's make it happen.
But before we uh close the show, we always leave

(53:30):
off with something positive. So so says, if you got
something positive, te Ty, let's say something positive to this
world as we speak.

Speaker 6 (53:44):
Of the positive. Yes, leave your dreams. Don't let nobody
tell you it's unaccomplishable. Always remember that the Order of
McDonald started somewhere, the owner of back started somewhere. And

(54:04):
I always think of James Brown.

Speaker 8 (54:06):
If y'all ever watching.

Speaker 6 (54:07):
James Brown movie, you know the way that he that
he started doing music. You know, that was something that
was not a normal thing. And so both innovators are
not the people that's doing what everybody.

Speaker 8 (54:20):
Else is doing. So exactly, just.

Speaker 6 (54:23):
Live your dream. Whatever that is is his music, if
it's business, if it's you know, whatever that is. And
you know, don't rely on uh people to be your
your gauge. You know, just just keep on dreaming, keep
on going, keep God first. Nobody is better than Jesus.

(54:46):
If you don't know Jesus, get to know him.

Speaker 9 (54:49):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (54:50):
Yeah, that's all I can say it.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
We covered them all, all countries, all cities.

Speaker 7 (55:00):
We went to Kansas City, we went to Atlanta, Georgia,
we went to Ohio, we went.

Speaker 5 (55:06):
To Las Vegas.

Speaker 8 (55:09):
Man, this is a cool.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
Yeah, it's just a blessing.

Speaker 9 (55:16):
Gotta we.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Just gotta come back. No answer but about that.

Speaker 5 (55:25):
Yes, it's a blessing. It's a blessing.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
And so I would like to think that party.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
Yes, I would like to thank our underwriter.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
I'm like Jered Royce Jerry Russe Live. I know he's
just I know he's just laughing right now. He is
like laughing, you're probably talking about us, like right, he's
definitely talking tonight, right.

Speaker 7 (55:55):
I would like to thank God our underwriter, Jerry Royce's
Live Positive Power twenty one question the Media LLC for
just opening it up these doors and um putting up
these airways for us to even have this uh chat, so.

Speaker 5 (56:11):
That the morning.

Speaker 6 (56:13):
Thank you, Jerry, Jerry.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
Yeah, we'll think about you. We'll think about you while
we're eating at this party that t t Is has mentioned.
What was it again?

Speaker 6 (56:28):
We're making a new party because my birthday party already passed.
He's to have our own party at the namshell.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
All right, we do that, which we deal.

Speaker 5 (56:44):
No man can bring some.

Speaker 6 (56:48):
Of his boy and some of his sauce and some macachiese.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
All right, bring it. You can make it out there.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
I can't bring you.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Nothing that's even better fresh off the press.

Speaker 6 (57:03):
Right Ay, you have a whole party.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Oh yeah, there's plenty of that in Cali.

Speaker 14 (57:10):
It should be how hard to find one?

Speaker 5 (57:14):
We signing off? Bro, It's just I'll be good, all right, right.

Speaker 6 (57:24):
Try me.

Speaker 17 (57:25):
That's your host, Rush Swift and boy do I have
to swift sauce for you musicians. Matters Podcast live right
here seven pm Specific Standard time, nine pm Central Standard time,
ten pm Standard times for all digital platforms on Positive

(57:46):
Power twenty one Christian Media LLC.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Let's go on and always remember there is hope.

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