Ep. 121: Weekly Wrestletalk XXVIII

Macho discusses Taker v Batista, AEW not respecting woman, and is Liv Morgan in jeopardy of falling back down the yard?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Wed me Hitic. I'm welcome to an edition of Must
Love Wrestling, and Guys, I am here on a special
Sunday night episode without me speaking to you. I really
felt that we need to talk about some things here, because, honestly,
I feel like professional wrestling has become one of these
interesting things where everyone wants to argue about everything, and

(00:59):
I thought, you know what, why don't we start with
the most hot button topic in all of professional wrestling today,
and that is the Undertaker and Batista. Guys, let's be
serious here. Is this really a discussion for wrestling fans? Now.
I understand you have your allegiances and you're gonna vote
for who you want to vote for, and that's absolutely fine.

(01:21):
That's acceptable to be everybody. But guys, it's not our
job to like and dislike people based on who they're
going to vote for. I am friends with people that
are Democrats and I'm friends with people that are Republicans,
and I'm very very much let everyone do their own thing.

(01:42):
Do I have personal views on both? Absolutely? But do
I think that the wrestling world is a spot or
a space for us to have this conversation? No, I
do not think so, not even in the slightest. Now,
what I will say is that I've always been a
bigger Batista fan than the Undertaker. I've just never really

(02:04):
rocked with Taker. If you've been following my content on
TikTok or Twitter, you kind of know that I've always
said stingover Undertaker, and I really didn't never think that
Undertaker had a really great match until he walked into
a ring with Brett the Hitman Harp. Now, I was
always told that I was crazy for saying that, But

(02:25):
let's be honest. Let's be clear here. The Undertaker said
as much himself. He said he learned how to properly
work a match when he worked with Brett. Brett taught
him how to work a proper match. But obviously, a
guy sitting on his couch talking to his phone telling
you this information, I might have been giving you the

(02:47):
right message, but I'm the wrong messenger to give it to.
You know. One of the things that I find super
interesting is how we are able to just allow wrestling
companies to decide whether or not they're independent contractors have
to follow rules for them. Now, let's be clear here,

(03:10):
AW and NJPW do this great show called Forbidden Door
and every year it's a good show. I mean, I'm
not a huge fan of AW, but I appreciate for
Bidden Door. I think Forbidden Door is one of those
cool shows where we get to see people from all
different companies come in and they get to work. But
it is being reported after what Stephanievokor did last year,
that the companies that represent Forbidden Door decided that they

(03:36):
will make people sign a contract that states that you
will not go to the WWE after you work Forbidden Door,
essentially stating that they believe Stefanie Vercor used for Bidden
Door last year as a gateway to get to WWE.
I don't know if that's true. I know that she

(03:56):
had her match with Mercedes and it to this day
is still the best AW match that Mercedes has had.
But if that is what she did, so what. She's
an independent contractor. She doesn't need to do what you
guys want her to do. She's allowed to go out

(04:17):
there and put herself in any position to be successful
and it worked for her. She made it very clear
she wanted to work for WWE. She didn't want to
work for AW, she didn't want to work for MGPW,
she didn't want to work for CMLL anymore. She wanted
to go to WWE. That was her choice. That's exactly
what she wanted to do. I support Stephanie vuk Kor

(04:40):
because I feel like what Stephanie vuk Kor did was
the right thing. God blessed that woman for going and
doing what she wants to do. We all want to
accomplish a dream, and that was a dream for her.
She wanted to get to the big machine, and she
got there. Guys, let's just be proud for her. You
can be pissed off. I'm pissed off when there's a

(05:02):
trade available for the Yankees to get and they don't
get them. I'm pissed off when the Niners are really
bad and I think that they can get a good
wide receiver to bring in and they don't get them.
I'm pissed off too. So I get why AW fans
are super angry. The stefaniev our core is a proposition
to be this next great star in WWE. But guys,

(05:24):
she hasn't got there yet. She's got a big language
barrier problem. You can see it now. Now. She can
work absolutely, and I think that when you're in the
ring and you work as fluidly as she does. It
doesn't matter what language you speak, because she is just
utter perfection in that ring. And I saw it in
her debut match. She looked like she had been working

(05:48):
in that specific company for ten plus years. Awesome for her,
good for her. Guys, is WWE ruining the American Nightmare?
Let's be clear here. Cody Rhoads is one of the
most popular superstars in all of professional wrestling, and we
can all agree to that he's positioned as the guy.

(06:08):
He's not the guy because we know that that's Roman Raids.
But is WWE ruining the American Nightmare character? Is? Are
they ruining all of the work that Cody put into
that character? You and I both know that we fell
in love with American Nightmare Cody Rhodes. We love what
we saw in the Indies and TNA and NGPW. I mean,

(06:30):
I'm telling you right now that I fell in love
with Cody Rhoads the moment I saw him cut that
promo on Steve Corino, I thought, this is what has
been missing from him the entire time he worked in WWE.
That's Steve Carino promo. That's the one that did it
for me. And then you saw the Kenny Omega promo,

(06:52):
and then you saw the promo he cut in TNA
with Forgive Me, where he told them woman's wrestler, here's
forty five dollars. It's twenty dollars more than they were
gonna pay you. My god, I was like, this dude's
a menace. And here's the thing. Because WWE is edgier

(07:12):
because they're no longer just a regular PG thirteen company,
Cody's version of a babyface that he gave us from
the indies would work. I see a lot of people
saying that's that would work if Cody was a heel guys.
That version of Cody Roads that we got in ew

(07:33):
that version of Cody Road that we got in TNA
that we got in New Japan, that version would work
right now in the WWE. The fact that you guys
don't see it or you're blind to it is shocking
to me. Because the WWE has watered down the American nightmare.
I have seen so many people on social media jump

(07:54):
on here to bash Cody. Maybe one of them because
I don't like the version of Cody that we're and
I get it. We don't all get what we want.
We absolutely want something in professional wrestling, and when it
doesn't go our way, we bitch and moan on the internet.
That is the way of a wrestling fan. But when

(08:15):
we know because it has been given to us, because
we have evidence that one specific thing works for a guy,
and they completely strip that away and they give us
this Walmart version of a Cody Rose, it's just not

(08:36):
it's not feasible. Guys. You're not going to keep him
on top by working with him that way. You need
to give him the experience to go out there to
branch out. Like right now, I think he is a
major jeopardy of losing a big fan base because Kevin
Owens has been there for a while. KO is saying

(08:57):
whatever he wants, whenever he wants, He's given the freedom
to do so, and everything Kevin Owens is saying right now,
well it makes him the babyface. They're doing a better
job with this Kevin Owens and Cody roadsfeed that they
did with Live Morgan and Ria Ripley because Ko, we
can see everything that he went through. At least with Riha,

(09:19):
people can make argument like Riha asked Live to back off.
A couple times until she didn't. And listen, I grew
up in a Latino household. If make al Wela told
me to stop doing something even if I was right
or wrong, and I kept interrupting her, Mayrah, when I

(09:39):
that's it, She's gonna smack me. That's exactly what would happen.
RIEA Ripley, she told her. But we're not watching now
with Cody. Kevin Owens has had everybody betray him. And
is Cody going to be able to keep up on
the mic? Now? We know he can. We've seen him
do it because Kenny Omega is a phenomenal talker, and

(10:02):
we've seen Cody shred his ass. But are are wwe
gonna let Cody Rhodes do that? I don't think so.
I just don't think they're gonna let him do it
because they want him to be that white meat babyface.
They want that Bruno San Martino, that eighties whole cogin,
that PG John Cena. They don't want him to be edgy,

(10:28):
And I don't understand. It's twenty twenty four, guys. We
don't need the white meat babyface anymore. That shit don't
play well no more. We don't need it we need
a white meat babyface like we need broad panty matches.
We just don't fucking need it. It's ridiculous. Let Cody
Rhodes be the American Nightmare that caused you to bring

(10:52):
him in and offer him that fat ass contract, The
American Nightmare, the guy that brought in all of this traction,
that brought all of the face with him from aw
the people that stopped watching aw when Cody came back.
Let him be that American Nightmare because the version we
have now, holy shit, that is not That's the payless

(11:13):
Shoes version of the American Nightmare. It's awful. It's one
of the worst characters in all of professional wrestling today.
And we have seen Mercedes Monet and Ricochet talk on
the mic. This is bad, bad right now, and we
need good Cody because he's being out gained in the

(11:35):
audience's eyes by people like Solo by Jacob Roman is
clearly still higher up on the card than him. Drew
McIntyre hasn't cut a bad promo since before that interaction
with Kevin Owens on Monday Night Raw. Campunk is literally
never bad on the mic. The Rock is on his
way back. If Cody doesn't start acting like the cody

(11:59):
that he was, and he sent out that fucking tweet
of the workers that he wanted to work. It's just
not gonna work. He's gonna wind up getting booed, worse
than Sina, worse than Roman was during the Big Dog era.
They need to let the man go. Just absolutely let
him fucking cook because he can. He knows exactly what

(12:21):
to do, so just let him do it because this version, ugh,
it is just awful to say the least. Guys, did
you watch the press conference for the last ew pay
per view? Did you see Mariah May ask if anybody

(12:41):
had any questions for her? And not a single soul
had a fucking question for her. You're telling me that
no one thought of the question. Hey, Mariah, I noticed
you're still using the storm zero is Tony Storm still
very much in your mind? Hey Maria, all right, you've
all of a sudden become this ruthless wrestler who has

(13:07):
just taken no prisoners. What sparked the new mindset? Those
are two questions I just thought of right now. I
didn't write them down on my notes. I have my
notes on what to do for the show. Those are
two questions I just thought of right now. None of
those fucking people that get paid for a living could
have asked her a question. The most disrespectful media outlet

(13:27):
I've seen in a very long time, very long time,
I would say, not asking Mariah made a question during
that after another successful tighter run, after the fact that
her and Tony Storm stole our hearts with that fucking
feud for the past year, the fact that they didn't
do that, I think it's worse than asking Mercedes about
her divorce at a wrestling show. At least, that's a

(13:51):
fucking question. That's embarrassing for a ew, it's embarrassing for
Tony Kahan, it's embarrassing for women's wrestling, and it just
shows the lack of awareness by those people, not knowing
that that was gonna be a fucking viral moment. Just brutal, brutal, Mariah,

(14:11):
if you want someone to ask you tons of questions,
come here on mus Love messling me and Tyler. We'll
sit down, we'll talk to you. You can tell us
whatever you want. We'll talk to you about your entire career.
We'll talk to you about what it means to you
that Brian Danielson stuck his neck out and said, this
person's got it and helped usher you into aw those

(14:34):
I mean, I just don't understand how you can get
paid to ask questions, to write stories and you couldn't
come up with a single question for that woman. It's awful. Guys,
let's touch on a fun subject. There has been a
lot of traction that has followed this tweet that Jay
Usso is the twenty twenty four version of Jeff Hardy,

(14:57):
and Guys, I don't know if I agree with that,
because for you to not grow up in the Jeff
Hardy era, for you not to understand what Jeff Hardy
meant to professional wrestling that was wild, you had to
be there. Jeff Hardy was otherworldly. He was a really

(15:20):
good in ring talent who did high risk maneuvers before
high risk maneuvers were like your every Wednesday and Saturday
night in Jacksonville, and he did them at poignant moments
of the match. He didn't just do them On Monday
Night Raw. Jeff Hardy worked an entire ladder match with
The Undertaker, and it is regarded as one of the

(15:43):
greatest ladder matches of all fucking time. And he barely
used any of his pay per view stuff. When we
talk about Jeff Hardy, there needs to be some respect
on his name. This man didn't jump through tables and
do all that stuff. He saved that for special moments.
Jeff Hardy is one of my all time favorite wrestlers,

(16:04):
and I love Jay Uso. I think Jay Uso might
be one of my favorite workers in the business right now.
I think what he's providing to professional wrestling is just amazing.
But to compare j Uso to Jeff Hardy, well, I
think it's more of a compliment to Jay, and it
feels more like a disrespect to Jeff because it feels

(16:26):
like we're appreciating what Jay is doing in the business today,
but we're also discounting what Jeff Hardy meant and did
to the business back in his era. I don't even understand,
because do you remember that moment in aw when Cmpunk
finally made his long awaited return and you saw that

(16:49):
dude in the audience crying, that grown man crying that
Cmpunk was back, and we all felt that way. We
were all like, damn man, we finally got it. We won.
Punk is back. Do you remember that moment that was
a one time moment for a return for a superstar
that we all love. Imagine going through that weekly. That's

(17:12):
what it was like watching Jeff Hardy. That man provided
a joy in professional wrestling that is just not here today.
The way he was able to unite fans from all
around the world. Everyone loved Jeff. The Hardy Boys were

(17:34):
just different man. And don't get me wrong, I love
the USOS. They're fucking great. I got nothing negative to
say about them, except for the fact that they shouldn't
have made event at Wresmania thirty nine. That should have
been Rha and Charlotte. But what the Hardy Boys meant
to the business was just it was so impactful because

(17:55):
they didn't look like you're every like your everyday rest.
They looked more like us. Like if you were in
a aisle in a grocery store and you saw a
guy that was just slightly taller than you, but he
was really thin, Like, imagine that's Jeff Hardy. I've stood
five feet away from Jeff Hardy at a Ring of

(18:16):
Honor show the moment he debuted the willow with a
wisp and he came out, I couldn't even believe what
I was looking at. I was like, this guy looks
like an everyday man. He's just you know, pretty, and
he was so genuine, so amazing. Now I've heard some

(18:36):
great stories about Jay Usso and Jimmy. I've heard that
they are great people to meet, the same thing with Roman.
I hope one day to be able to meet all
three of those men. But we do need to realize
that Jeff Hardy meant so much to professional wrestling. He
was such a big deal, and there are wrestlers from

(18:59):
his era that would never reach his level of popularity.
Think about the guys that were single stars during the
Jeff Hardy era, Triple h Edge, Matt Christian, John Cena, Batista,
Randy Orton, all of these guys, Cmpunk, all of these

(19:20):
guys were single stars during the Jeff Hardy singles run.
He was the most popular superstar. Did you not hear
the names I just mentioned? That is wild, is it not.
There were men, women, children wearing those sleeves that Jeff
Hardy wore all the time. People were yelling at house

(19:43):
shows just like Team Extreme. People were going crazy. Jeff
Hardy was He was a religion. That's all I could
say he was a religion and not like a cult
or nothing, not like a crazy thing like you know
the way they act over like aw and shit like that,

(20:05):
or the way they act over you know, Trump. But
like we're talking like it was, it was like people
really wanted to be a part of it. You were
rarely a hater. It was rare that you met someone
that hated Jeff. And if they disliked Jeff, it was
always the same reasons. It was I'm a bigger edge fan,

(20:26):
or I just prefer Matt Hardy. Those are the reasons.
That's It was that simple, which brings me to my
other question. Guys, when did it become toxic to have
a conversation over who the guy is in professional wrestling?
When did that become something where if you don't like
someone because they're popular over here, that that means that

(20:49):
you're a toxic wrestling fan. Guys, the word toxic, it's
thrown around more than the word woke. It's ruining wrestling conversation.
I remember going to Pathmark in Union City, New Jersey,
sitting on the floor in the grocery store because I
couldn't afford to buy the magazines, and I would sit

(21:10):
there reading wrestling magazines, just talking with my boy Pat,
my boy Bernie, and we would just be talking over
who was better. Do you remember that wrestling magazine? I
believe it was a PWI where it was Stinging on
the cover and Sean Michael saw on the cover and
it had their attributes, and it was like who's better
in the business. Those are normal conversations and nobody ever

(21:32):
got angry at those conversations. It was like saying, like,
who did you like better? Goldberger Austin. It was a
regular conversation. I remember growing up and being in backyard wrestling.
That's right. I was a moron too, and I kind
of still am at times. I remember this guy Vinni Fucci.
You know, if you ever listened to this podcast I
shot it out, bro. I remember he was a big

(21:54):
Triple H fan. I had never understood. I was like,
Triple H is your guy? Yeah? That was his dude,
that was his favorite guy. It was like, okay, wild
good for you. Like I just never really got it.
I was like, wow, trickle Ah has never been my guy.
I've never even put him in that category. I appreciate him.
He's definitely worth the spot. He's worth having a wrestling

(22:17):
fan that views him as the best and the biz,
but he's not my guy. Like it used to be
a typical conversation. Right now, I'm realizing that the worst
two conversations you could have with a wrestling fan where
you're going to get attacked and someone's just going to
give you an immature asked answer, is when you're trying
to discuss who's more important to the business, or who's
the guy, Roman Rains or Cody Roads. Guys, He's never

(22:38):
going to be Cody never, it's Roman Reigns. Do you
need an explanation, I'll give it to you right now.
In the eighties, it was Rick Flair Dusty Rhoads. Dusty
was what more popular with the fans. But who did
the companies views the money? Who did the companies views
as the guy? The man? Rick Flair all right, Hulk Hogan,

(23:03):
Macho man? Randy Savage? Who did people view as the guy? Hogan?
John Cena, Randy orton cover of a video game together.
Randy won more of their matches, Randy was moving up
the card, he had better storylines, better promos, all of that.
John Cena was the guy. Brett Hart four hundred k Champ.

(23:26):
Google it if you need to know what it is.
Actually the guy who came up with the terminology. I
believe today is his birthday. Happy birthday, Scott Hall, Razor Ramone,
but him and Sean Michaels coming up at the same time.
Who is the guy? It was Sean Michaels. Guys, there's
only been one time in professional wrestling history. In pro

(23:48):
wrestling history were fans and the people that were running
the show could not tell who was the guy. And
that was the Austin Rock era. And I think a
lot of it had to do with them overlapping each other,
That's all it was. But it was the only time

(24:08):
you could be a fan of both. I'm pretty sure
Adam cole Is stated his favorite all time wrestling matches
WrestleMania seventeen Austin versus Rock. You could be a fan
of both. But that was the only time in professional
wrestling history where we had two people that were at
the top and you couldn't differentiate who was the actual guy.
It was us like I was rooting for the Rock,

(24:32):
Pat was rooting for Austin. That's how it was. Right now,
it's clear the ULA Fauna means more to professional wrestling
than the WWE Championship. It's being presented that way. It's
being shown that way that Ula Fauna is so important.

(24:53):
Why would it be that way if not for Roman Reigns.
He is the guy. He has been here, He's worked
his ass off. He didn't have to leave, and you
have to understand that that is part of the reason
why Cody's never gonna be the guy because he left.
Triple H is a lifer. He's been here from the
moment he became Hunter Hurst Tomesley. He never left. He

(25:15):
put up with having the King of the Rings stripped
away from him. He put up with winning the title
and losing it twenty one days later because Vince didn't
know if he would be the guy and losing it
to Vince. Triple H knows what it's like to be
presented as the top heel in the business and then
to have everything taken away from you. Cody's never been

(25:37):
through that. I've stated this before and I'll state it again.
Cody's pre aw career was great in WWE. The guy
worked WrestleMania matches against the Big Show and Ray Mystereo.
Say what you will about either wrestler working WrestleMania is
a great thing. He was given the opportunity to work

(25:58):
the top superhero in television in Steven Mmel at the
second biggest show of the year, It's Summer Slam. He
absolutely was put in such a great spot. He grew
a mustache, he became dashing, then he was grotesque with

(26:20):
the mask. Cody was given opportunity after opportunity after opportunity,
and he couldn't get himself over that promo that Roman
Rings cut on him where he said, we gave you this,
you couldn't get yourself over, So then you went over
here and you couldn't get yourself over in a company
you started that promo. As much as it hurts a
lot of wrestling fans feelings, it's the truth. Roman Rings

(26:42):
stayed here. He was given the opportunity and he main
evented what three straight WrestleManias, four straight or whatever. Fans
hated him for it all because of a podcast that
see him punk cut like did well. We got a
question in the chat let's see here, DeMar, do you
think Dolf Ziggler could be great again if he returned
one percent? I think Dolf Ziggler has proven or Nick

(27:04):
Nemeth has proven that he can work anywhere. It's very
rare that someone can do what he's doing. And I
commend him for staying away from AW for noticing like, hey,
they have too much over there. Sometimes too much talent
is too much. And he has absolutely done the right
thing by going to TNA. And he's thriving. He's absolutely thriving.

(27:28):
He looks great over there. Everybody he works with he
makes them look like a million bucks. He's definitely him
and Joe Hendry and Moose. Those are the three people
that I think of the most when I think of TNA.
Dolf Ziggler hasn't even been there that long and he's
already put himself in a position to be that person.
But the guy in TNA, let's not let's not ignore it.

(27:51):
Let's be honest. It's Jordan Grace. She's the guy, whether
people want to admit it or not. That's the second
time the TNA's done that where they've presented a female
star as the guy, and God bless him. The first
time was Tessa Blanchard, before all the of her fucking
nonsense came out, before all of her stupidity that she

(28:13):
just like spewed to the world. She was presented that way.
One percent. I agree with this, Damar. WWE did Ricochet,
and you know when I thought they fumbled him because
they have been spending so much time looking for the
next Raymisterio Junior, and they had it right there. And

(28:36):
I don't know how far back you go, but there
was a great time where Ricochet where he wrestled for
this television company by Robert Rodriguez, you know, the guy
who made the Desperado movies, the guy who made from
Dust told On. He had his own wrestling promotion, Lucha Underground,
and Ricochet was Prince Puma. Puma was phenomenal. He was

(29:02):
a different version of Ricochet. It was almost like imagine
Finn Bower with the Demon. That's what Prince Puma was.
And I think he was in it. He was. He
could have been their big like Ray mysterial that they've
been looking for. Because I'll tell you what I've been
to at least five to five to seven shows over
the past two years in WWE. Every single time Dragon

(29:24):
Lee's out there, zero reaction. I don't know what it
is about him. His presentation is great the whole like
you know thing on the Titan Tron with the dragon
and turning into him and stuff. It looks awesome live,
but nobody cares. We're tired of seeing it. Ricochet has
no charisma. Yeah, I think we're watching that right now.

(29:46):
In aw they don't do a really good job of
protecting their talent where we watched it first and foremost
With Mercedes, Mercedes has always been that reaction promo. And
for those of you I don't know what a reaction
promo is, that means that there's already an established star
in the ring cutting a promo on a worker, and
then a worker comes out, their music hits, they come out,

(30:09):
and they back to whatever you said. That's what Mercedes
Monet did great in WWE. That's what she did as
Sasha Banks. She's never been the person that you can
trust to give her a live mic, put her in
the center of the ring and she's gonna sell a story.
ABU has tried very hard to do that, and it's
actually hurt her character, and it's hurt Camille more because

(30:33):
now Camille was supposed to be presented as their version
of a Rhea Ripley and she might be that good,
but we'll never know because nobody gives a shit. It's awful.
Let's see here, feely. Undisputed would have been cool if
the main roster. Absolutely, yes, Adam Cole was presented the

(30:53):
best in WWE. And I think a lot of what
happened was the vincer Man issue, the fact that Vince
didn't view him as a top star. He viewed him
as a manager. But if you remember, going back to
when Adam Cole first debuted, Shawn Michaels had made a
lot of eyes open with his comments about Adam Cole

(31:15):
that if he was six foot two, he would be
the best wrestler in the world. He would be the
top star in the business. It's just the fact that
he's five to ten and I think that he just
looks very thin and there. I mean, there's a lot
of memes about him and stuff, and you know, he
he's been injured a lot in EW. It's unfortunate, it's unfortunate.

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But yeah, I agree with you, Adam Cole in the
Undisputed era, on the main roster would have been it
would have just been money, just money. Jimmy Chong, Yeah,
I appreciate that thanks man, I definitely Yeah, guys, have
you paid attention to the Live Morgan and rear Ripley story,
because I have a question for everybody. Do you feel

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the same way that I do that that Liv Morgan
is in danger of moving all the way back down
the card? Do we realize that ree Ripley's gonna be
She's gonna be in this position for a while. And
now there's a lot of rumors that Charlotte's on her
way back. There's a lot of speculation when Becky's coming back.
Tiffany Stratton has made a lot of headway, Naya's doing

(32:19):
the best work of her career. Bailey is one of
the best talents. We have Bianca, we have Jade. Now
it looks like there's this uh ushering trade in to
push Candace lay And you know, a lot of workers
in the business really love Candace. If you're a big
fan of the indies, you know that Candace is an
awesome worker. If Liv loses this title, can she stay

(32:43):
prominent on our televisions? I don't think so, guys, I
really don't. Let's see here, cool shut up for wrong
and god zero reaction. Yes that is true, but he
got a huge reaction when he showed up on SmackDown
and he beat Daniel Bryant. If you remember that match correctly,
the way it was positioned, it was done so well

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because it made it look like Brian was gonna work
triple H. And then Sewn Michael stepped in and then
we were like, oh my god, are we getting student
versus teacher, Sean versus Brian? And then Sean does his
whole comedy stick Triple H, says Champ, he walks into
frame and then Brian. I mean, Brian could work a

(33:27):
fucking broomstick and make it look like he was wrestling Okata.
I mean, just amazing. So yeah, you're right, he got
zero reaction on Raw, but when he worked that match
with Brian on SmackDown, he was phenomenal. He was phenomenal.
So yeah, I mean, do you think that Adam Cole
and MJF have done the right thing? Has aw? Have

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they challenged our intelligence? Are we supposed to forget that
Adam Cole was the villain in this story? Are we
supposed to forget that Adam Cole was the devil that
he cost MJF the world title? Because it looks like
AW isn't doing a great job with Adam Cole either.
I mean, is he just a victim of circumstance that

(34:10):
he's forever going to be doomed to be fumbled by
whatever company he works for because it's it's super odd. Ooh,
this right here, Dominek reminds me of Owen with his
charisma as cowardly heeling away. I listen. I have said
this before, and I will say it again. I do
love Dominic, so I'll get back to dominant minute. But

(34:30):
I feel like Owen. Brian Danielson and Eddie Guerrero are
three wrestlers that they can only be compared to each other.
They're the only people that you can give them an
absolute crap program and they will turn it into money.
They will turn it into gold. Eddie turned every comedy
act that he was given in WWE into absolute money.

(34:53):
Brian Danielson, That dude went from being a footnote in
a Bella's verse Gil Kim storyline, so losing his title
in eighteen seconds to selling more T shirts than John
Cena in twenty four hours. Brian Danielson, whatever he was
given Team Hell Hell No or just the Planet Champion,

(35:14):
it didn't matter. He was selling so much money. They
made him a biodegradable T shirt. They made him a
T shirt that was completely recyclable everything it was made
from recyclable material. It sold out. You don't do that
if you're not one of the top stars. And Owen Hart,
I mean, when we talk about Owen, we got to
talk about the best heart because I think that's the

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one argument that Brett Hart can't make. Owen was better
than him. And I'm a massive Brett fan. He's on
my Mount Rushmore forever. But Owen was a better inrun performer.
He just had it. He was perfect. He was in
absolute perfect talent. And I gotta be honest. You know what,
Wwe did really well with Dominic Masterio that I think
a lot of people let go unnoticed. They stopped letting

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him work lucha. He's not a luchador. He's too big.
If you notice his style, he reminds me very much
of nineteen ninety eight to two thousand and five Edge.
That's who he works like. He works like Adam Copeland
and it works for him. Yeah, he still does the
triple like the Three Amigos and stuff, and now so

(36:24):
does live because that's her boyfriend. But he works very
much like Edge or Christian. He works like those tall,
lanky guys. And he stopped working like his dad. When
he first came in and he was this over like
this like baby face that nobody gave a shit about.
It was like, ah, but you're just trying to be
a luchador, but you're too tall, Like it just doesn't work.

(36:45):
Everybody could be Billy Kidman. Like Billy Kidman was unique
as a luchador. You know, he was taller than everybody else,
and you know he his shooting star was so awkward.
But taking Dom away from Lucha and just having him
work a natural heel program, having him just forever be
that guy that's just gonna betray whoever he's with. I mean,

(37:07):
we're all waiting for it. We're all waiting for him
to betray liv Morgan. We know that's gonna happen. He
may betray her to be with Raquel. He might help
revitalize Raquel's career. Let's see here what he got here?
It jumped off the KG. Oh my god. Yeah, listen,
I am an og Hogan hater. I have been. I'll

(37:30):
be honest with you. I have disliked hul Cogan since
the moment I watched that man take four or five
elbow drops from Macho Man Randy Savage, and then Hulk
up hit a leg drop thirty five seconds later and
beat Macho Man. That was the moment I was like,
I'm out, And I was a little boy when that happened.
I was like, I'm out. But the one thing I

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can say about Hogan is that he knows the business.
And the moment he started dissecting as to why Adam
Copeland or Edge did that spot and why he didn't
need to do that spot, I agreed with the man
one hundred. He was already over. He was already the
biggest star in aw the moment he came in, and

(38:14):
there was no need for that spot, no need whatsoever.
The dude's in his fifties. What the fuck's the point
of jumping off a cage like that. It just didn't
make any sense. Jimmy, I definitely agree with you. That
was a rough, rough spot for Adam Copeland, and I
hope when he comes back that he has a better
end of his career because honestly, whatever he has going

(38:38):
on right now, I mean, I know he's obviously he
may be in the next season of Percy Jackson. I'm
pretty sure that story arc is still going, but I
definitely don't see this ending in AW. I hope he
comes back. I mean, we're definitely getting a great version
because everything we got in this second run that he

(39:00):
that he gave us in WWE was great. He main
evented WrestleMania once again. And think about that main event.
People don't even talk about the symbolism of that main event.
You had a neck injury out of the business for
eleven years. You had concussions that stopped Brian's career, So

(39:21):
we have the neck injury was edged. We have the
concussions that stopped Brian's career that could have taken his
life away, and then we had leukemia with Roman reigns.
All three of the those eyes had had a moment
in time in their career where it had been taken
away from them, and they made it all the way
back to main event WrestleMania together. I mean, just amazing,

(39:42):
just amazing. It's gonna be better. Oh listen, As a Latino,
I want to say Dom, but I think Bron Breakers
the future. Every single week, Bron Breakers better than the last.
Every single thing they have done with him is come
completely careful. They are attentive, They make sure they don't

(40:04):
let him mess up. He goes out there. He's already
one of the best workers in the biz. He's so safe.
I don't know if you guys notice, he works people
and he protects people when he's in the ring. Now,
that's something that all professional wrestlers do. But for him
to be in the business for less than three years

(40:24):
and to be this good, I mean, it's one of
those things that we just really have to pay attention to.
He is really, really crisp. You could tell he was
born for this business, very much a Steiner. I fully
expect him and Carmelo to be main eventing WrestleMania in
the future. I think Carmelo is another one of those

(40:47):
guys where it's just like, man, I watch him and
as much as I love Andrade, I'm a bigger fan
of his wife, obviously, but as much as I love Andrade,
this is done specific effically to help people get more
adjusted to what Melo is gonna bring to professional wrestling.

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I mean, that kid is just spectacular. Yeah, I mean,
I think we're getting a wrinkle into what I thought
was gonna happen. I thought it was gonna be Dom
that was gonna take the championship from Jay Uso. I
really thought that everything he was talking about when he
was doing all his interviews, that it was gonna be
Dominic Masterial that was gonna take the championship from Jay Jusu.

(41:29):
But after Jay interrupted Solo this week, I would not
be surprised if one of these two things happened. Either
the bloodline helps Jay as a way to sway to
get him to join the Gorillas of Destiny and Jacob
and Solo, or they cost him the inter con Meental

(41:51):
Championship and Bron wins it back. Either way, I think
we're in for a great story, and I do think
I made this prediction earlier. I have full belief that
Dom or Sammy's Ain are winning the briefcase next. One
of those two guys is gonna win the Briefcase, and

(42:13):
whoever wins it is not failing to cash it. Sammy's
Ain has put himself out there, he's a world champion
in waiting, and obviously Dom that would be heat, absolutely heat,
just be crazy crazy heat. Well, guys, thank you so
much for joining the show here. I'm flying solo today.

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big move back to Canada. So you know, Macho decided
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