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November 2, 2024 • 88 mins
Macho and Tyler get into it about if Liv Morgan has gone to far? Is Gunther he BITW? Should AEW stop worrying about competition and focus on the on screen product?

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Pursley, I'm all only welcomes the.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
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Speaker 4 (00:51):
A fire.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
With them. Oni hnd that welcome to another that it
must love wrestling. Hey, guys, my daughter is toy. This
thing is awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
It's like it's supposed to be from what I've learned,
this is supposed to be some kind of like emotional
like thing.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
It's like inside out right.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Oh yeah, I got you, I got you.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
I know, like it's but the only thing is that
it goes from angry to sad, like she has another
one that's happy, but I couldn't find it anyway. Guys,
thank you so much for joining us. And we are
so close to it the little.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
All Hallows Eve and Halloween.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Anyway, We're so excited to have Tyler back. He's healthy, Tyler,
are you doing good? Worried about your Boston this last week?

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, man, I'm recuperating. I'm not sure what's going on,
but it's been a it's been a rough week or so.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Well, yeah, I mean it has been a rough week.
I've missed you.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Have done two shows with that dude. We did Wressell
Talk twenty nine and thirty without you. Thirty was kind
of like a just.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Uh I was last night, just jumped on here, but yeah,
I was.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Gonna tell I was gonna tell you away for me
to get my headphones, but then I fell asleep.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah no, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
So feeling horrible.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Yeah, you know, I needed to jump on here and
talk about wrestling because wrestling is my safe space and
the Yankees are about to get swept and it's just
kind of one of those things where it's like.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
You know what, let me just jump on here and
let me talk about professional wrestling.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
But Tyler, why don't we touch on some of the
subjects that I talked about last week? But before we
do that, why don't we share the breaking news coming
out of WWE.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Tyler, are you excited about this news?

Speaker 1 (02:51):
The news we just gossed earlier? Yes, Okay, was making
sure I knew what the news was. Oh oh yeah, yeah,
So why don't you Why don't you tell the folks
what we're talking about?

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Okay, So earlier today, WWE launched a new indie wrestling
developmental program, and guys, this is super important because Triple
H has done everything he can to go old school,
to go back in the day, to just make sure
that everything runs the way it did back in the day.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
And you know what I saw out of this. I
just want to say a couple of names to you,
if that's okay with you, Houston, Atlanta, Davenport, Iowa, Concord,
New Hampshire, Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Do you know what that tells me? Tyler, We're going
back to the territory days, my friend, I like it.
We are going back to the territory days.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
As Triple H and WWE signed his contract where they
are going to showcase Booker T's Reality of Wrestling, Cody Rhodes,
Nightmare Factory seth Rollins, Black and Brave Academy, Elite Pro
Wrestling Training Center in Concord, New Hampshire, Knox Pro Academy,
and Los angele Us. This is one of the most
exciting things that we've had in a long time. And

(04:04):
as I stated earlier on TikTok, I don't think the
relationship with TNA is going away.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I think that it's flourishing.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Every wrestler that speaks about it, every big pun in
that talks about it.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
They sound glowing.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
It sounds like the relationship has just been beautiful and
it continues to blossom.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
So including TNA to all of this stuff.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
What do you think about WWE expanding its role going
to territories.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
I mean, I think it's honestly, I think it's great
for people who are going to eventually end up being
there because they're going to learn the style. You know,
WWE style is not the same as most wrestling. Yes,
they have their own quirks and whatnot, and they're going
to learn that from the beginning, so that it's like

(04:52):
you don't have to like you won't have to like
break people of their habits when they come in because
they'll already no what you're doing. As far as the
teenage relationship goes. I listen to podcast with Scott the
Moore and he was saying, like, when Jordan Grace did
the rumble he was about to he couldn't have been

(05:13):
happier with how they treated her because like in the
past it's been like whoa we might you know, plans change,
you know, and stuff like he was going leaving for
the Jericho Crews the same day and Hunter called him
right before he left, and he was like, look, I
just want to let you know before you before you go,

(05:33):
this is exactly what we have planned. This is what
we're going to do, so he didn't have to be
out at sea like wondering. Like so I think, yeah,
I think the lines of communication there are open and
seemed to be seemed to be going well at least

(05:54):
for now. We'll see when, you know, when some contracts
come up and and maybe they end.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Up jumping shim w.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
I mean, I guess Motor City machine Guns just did that, right,
But yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I think it's one of those things where Motor City
machine Guns were just like that one rare gem that
they wanted.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
It was like, let me go to like a comic con,
and like, this is the toy that I've always wanted to.
They never got an opportunity to get because the way
they came in was way too hot.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
We've never seen somebody come in like that. That's some
Goldberg style shit to come in and win the title
on your third match. I said to.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Carlito, did it.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
But he was developmental? Yeah us And yeah he beat
John c first match, and he beat Shelton Benjamin in his.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
First match on raw, Yes, but he was a developmental guy.
The MotorCity machine Guns have been TNA forever and then
they come in and people love them. I mean it
throws Oh go ahead, yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, I mean I've been a huge fan of them since.
I actually was on a flight with the guys in
it's like two thousand and eight. I was engaged to
a girl and it lives outside of Detroit, yes, and
they must have been flying home from a show. I
was flying from Virginia to spend some time with her,

(07:22):
and they were just really cool guys. And I've been
a fan of them ever since. Well, yeah, that's awesome,
but like, and I hope that. I hope the relationship
can stay strong. But like I'm just thinking about, like,
when a guy like Joe Hendry's becomes a free agent.
You don't think that movie He's gonna snap that up?

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Oh absolutely, I mean every everybody thinks that Joe Hendry
is headed right to WWE. I don't know if that's sure,
because I don't know if that's a positive thing, because honestly,
when I look at it, I see Nick Nemath.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Is eventually going to lose the championship to him.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
I know, he typically gets brought in as one of
those like, hey, let me just hold the championship for
a little bit, but listen, he's getting a chance to
just shine and run. And when I look at Joe Hendry,
I just don't know if I think they're learning from
the Cody Rhodes mistake, which is kind of one of
those things like I'm not saying Cody being champion is
a mistake. I think it's like, now we're in a

(08:19):
flux where I think there's more negative comments about Cody's
champ because a lot of people are realizing that it
was so much more fun to watch Cody chasing the
championship and now that he has it, they've done a
really huge disservice.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
To him by not giving.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Him those sink your teeth into moments. Now we might
get that out of Kevin Owens. No, they don't. And
I think what's really hurt Cody that I think won't
hurt Henry because it looks like they're learning from it,
is what's really hurt Cody is that we know for
certain Cody's not losing that championship. They are afraid to

(08:57):
pull a Drew McIntyre, which I don't underst seeing why
during the pandemic, Drew McIntire was the champion above all champions.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
He was the guy.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
But guess what they had Helena sell match and he
lost the championships of Randy Wharton.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
He won it back a couple of weeks later. You
can do that with Cody. What's to hurt Cody is
a multiple time in like a month.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, so I think part of what that was too,
was it seems like back in those days, remember it
was it was on Survivor series, it would be like
champion versus champion. Yes, yes, so a lot of times
right before the show, one of the titles would switch. Okay,

(09:41):
it happened with a winn he beat Gender, it happened
when Brian beat aj and then it happened when Drew
beat Randy to like three out of four years they
had they pulled that.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yes, I mean I like that. I think that's great.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
But I what I'm say saying is like that makes
sense obviously, But what I'm saying is like we knew
at that moment that Drew wasn't invincible, and they have
made Cody invincible.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Now, clearly, if you're not paying.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Attention to the entire bookings since Wresselmania thirty nine. You
didn't know this was coming because he comes out of
wressell Mania thirty nine, he has the loss against Roman
Rings and the very next night he goes into a
feud with brock Lesner. He conquers the Beast and then
he continues to conquer everybody. And obviously if you lose
to brock Lesner, but if you beat brock Lesner and
then you start losing to people like that doesn't make

(10:35):
any sense.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
You haven't done anything with the Lesner stuff. It's kind
of like the the way it's spoken about, like the
Undertaker how he how when the Undertaker lost to Lesner,
Lesner had to dominate John Cena at SummerSlam, and it
was to prop up that Lesner was actually able to
beat the Undertaker.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
So Johnsona speaks about it a lot like that made sense,
Like you're the guy who beat the Streak. Yeah, if
you want to dominate me in the match, let's do that.
That's what we're gonna sell tickets. That's what's gonna get
people invested. They haven't done that for Cody.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
They haven't put them in a position which leads me
to say this next comment.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
The w W E version of the American Nightmare is
the worst version of the American Nightmare we've gotten to date.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
I mean, I don't think there's a I don't think
there's a question that that's true.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I mean, God, this is your voice, so give give
us your honestly.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I mean I'm a fan of the guy. Yeah, I'm
a fan. I'm anna and a lot of it again
is I'm a fan of the guy. Yes, and that's
that's the habit for me unfortunately. But uh yeah, I
think there's a there's obviously limitations in w W that

(11:57):
that he didn't face in other places because a lot
of the time in other places he was you know,
the star, whereas now he's you know, one of the stars.
There's lots of stars.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
I mean, but it's really it's him in rooman those
are the top two guys.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Well sure, but I mean there's also CM punk a
lot of the time, and there's.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
An attraction and I feel.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Like, yeah, and I don't think it's done him any
favorites to be on SmackDown because honestly, I look at
SmackDown as a show that's there's a couple of people
at the top, and then there's a lot of guys
that don't even get like like they don't even get
pel rub Harley at all. Like the majority.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Yeah, SmackDown was really high up because it was on Fox,
but now it's not on.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
It was, but still like I watched a few you know,
heading into Mania and stuff, and it's like, there there
are a lot of people on this show that are
not you know, will not be on their like lower card,
they would be considered lower card wrestlers, Like they're not
gonna be on b l A. Like I'm not saying
they're not good. They're not saying they're not a good performers,

(13:13):
like and Drade's phenomenal, Marmelo is phenomenal, but they're not
Like when was the last time you saw either one
of them on a PLA No No.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
And that's the biggest problem too, is like Cody's on
de Yeah, I mean it's kind of one of those
things where you're you're put in a position where it's like,
what are you gonna do with Cody Rhodes. And I
think that they would have really benefited and this is
just my personal opinion, they would have really benefited from
the Batista Johnsona swap.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Remember the draft where Johnsena.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Wins the WWE championship from JBL, Batista wins the title
from from Triple H. And then they have the first
draft that John Cena gets drafted to Raw because has
always been the flagship, and they immediately put them into
a feud with Jericho, who's really popular, with Christian who
was moving up because the peeps were starting to get
real popular. I mean that Christian was really over say

(14:07):
what you want, but that Christian was over as fuck.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
And then yeah, and then you go over and then
all of a sudden, Batista feuds with JB like he
fused with JBL, and it's like, here we go, we
got some nice feuds going on. Now.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
I think they would have benefited from that sending Cody
to Raw and then sending Damien to smack them, but
they couldn't do it because Damien was in Judgment Day
and you would have to send the entire Judgment Day
over there. And obviously a lot of the Judgment Day
storylines are they're completely centered around.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Monday Night Raw.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
But it is one of those strange things where it
feels like, when I think about the American Nightmare, Cody Rhodes.
I think about him giving forty five dollars to a
female wrestler in TNA and telling her, this is twenty
dollars more then you're gonna get.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
I think about him cutting that promo against Kenny on
that in Japan.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
I think about him cutting that. I sent that to you.
How many times does Steve Carrino promo? I think about
like him cutting promos against Chris Jericho where he calls
him a dick, you know, like I think about the
undeniable or too undesirable to goddamn undeniable like those. That
is the American Nightmare. That is the guy that they have.

(15:30):
You can't tell me you can't. I'm sorry, I refuse. Yes,
perfect word, Tyler, that is absolutely perfect, because you.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
Can't tell me that that version who was on his own,
writing his own ship, cutting his own ad libs promos,
got that over.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
That's the guy that you signed, that's.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Great brought in and when they signed him, they said, there,
that's what they want, and then now that's not what they.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Want exactly exactly, And it really hurts because I feel like,
like you said, neutered, and I'm also gonna say they've
handicapped him because in that Chris van Fleet interview we
talk about it off air, we actually spoke about it
on the phone. He says, are you sure you know
what you're asking for? When people are asking for Cody
to turn heel? Like it sounds great, Cody Roads American

(16:25):
Nightmare heel? But are you sure you know what you're
asking for? And then he goes into it, so it's
almost like they've made a decision. Cody, You're gonna be
this white meat baby face. This is what we want.
This is going to continue to get over. This is
a sensitive time in professional wrestling, and we need one
guy to be the like the clean guy you are

(16:48):
it and that's one of those things where I just
don't feel like it works because Tyler, and I want
to say this to you because I'm hoping you agree
with me, but if you don't, I would love to
hear your take on it. The version of the Eric
and Nightmare that we fell in love with pre WWE,
right in the era that we live in, in the WWE.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Trying to get more spicy, that version would be a
bigger babyface than he is now. If he cut those
like scathing promos as a babyface in WWE. Right now, Dude,
I say.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
This with utmost like certainty, and I say it with
me like with my chest out.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
He would be more over than Roman Reigns right now.
People would be craving Cody.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, because the guy that he is, like, he isn't
like I don't think he is this guy like yeah,
I mean I think he you know, yeah, I mean
I mean I kind of I find him kind of

(17:57):
relatable because like, honestly, you know, I'm kind of a yeah,
but like I'm like, like there's a difference. I like
to clarify this, I said it to a lot of people.
I don't know if I've ever said on the air,
there's a big difference between being a bit of a
dick and being an asshole.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Mm hmmm mmmm, Like like I'm a.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Bit of a dick, Like I'm going to give you
you know, you're gonna get the horns a little bit, yes,
but but usually that means like I like you and
I'm you know, we're playing.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Absolutely because you can be honest, you could be yourself
around someone that's typically like that's actually a great sign
of mental health when you can be your unapologetic self
around human beings, around people that you trust, Like we
are absolutely honest with each other. Like we we fight
all the time, but you say you text me all

(18:50):
the time. Brothers fight, that's what happens. Yeah, but we
know we can be honest around each other. Like I
love you, bro, like you are. You are one of
the best people I've ever met in my life. I
don't want you to change. I don't want a different
version of Tyler.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I want the guy that has been my friend for
fucking seventeen years. Like that's exactly what you wanted a people.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Well, right, like like I said, like I'm a bit,
like I'm a bit of a dick, but if it
came down to it, like I dive on top of
your kid to save him from a you know whatever, exactly.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, No, I get it.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
It's not the same thing. And that's that's that's what
I think Cody is Like, yeah, and that's cool, Like
I wish they would let him be that.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yes, I agree. I don't like the WWE Cody Rhodes.
I don't like the American nightmare that we're getting. And
that's the sad. Yes, it's I mean, I did.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
I gotta say, I really did enjoy the promo exchange
they had on SmackDown.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, but I thought he got his ass whole eat now,
like I feel like Gunter looks better, Like I just
you know why, because gun is able to say stuff
that Cody's not able to say.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, but the thing he said it was like it
was like it was almost like the things that Gunther
said was like he didn't he doesn't get it. Like
you're in the position of responsibility. You can't say no,
that's the thing. That's what Cody's saying, Like I can't
say no. I mean, this is my responsibility.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yes, And it's like there's a spoiled brat, like you know,
if I want to you know.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, yes, I think it would do a world of
good if they honestly, if they would swap them.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Mmmm, you mean he'll in face or just like.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
No, no, no, send one, send Gunther to a snackdown
and and.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, I mean I think that works really well because
it gives us Finn versus Cody, which I think would
be your wet drenk. But I feel like it's one
of those things that like, I don't know, I just
kind of look at it as I want Cody Rhoads
to be pre wwe Cody Roads like.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
I get it. I understood what you said. You went
on Chris Vanfleet's podcasting. You told us, are you sure
you know what you're asking for? Here's what I'm asking for,
and I know I'm asking for this. Cody, Please be
the American Nightmare because what you are now. Yeah, yes,
of course he's watching our show. Come on. He's probably

(21:31):
one of the people that have been signed on that
keeps signing on and off.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
It's the Internet, that's what happens. But listen, please be
the American Nightmare, the guy that we all love.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Dude. You can still cater to the children, you can
still have them dress up as you.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
You can still sell the merchandise. You can still do
all that. But guess what, man, your show's on from
eight to ten. You're about to be on Netflix. You're
about to be TVM on Netflix. Dude, be the American Nightmare.
Actually cut the promo that we fell in love with.
Go out there and rip Kevin Owens apart. Do that

(22:08):
when you cut a promo against Randy Orton and Randy
and him are gonna.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Go at it.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Because that feud is going to come next when that happens.
Tell us about the shift that Randy Orton did when
you were his mentee, Like, do that the way you
did Jericho, because I feel like that Jericho feud that
he had right when Jericho was calling him like a
silver spoon and all that stuff, and you know he

(22:35):
was he pointed out to Jericho like, oh, I'm afraid that, Like,
you know, I didn't realize that you growing up with
a famous hockey dad, like we both grew up with
the same silver spoon in our mouths you entitled dick,
like when he cut that promo. Look, that's what I mean.
Look what I'm doing. We're having this conversation right now,
and how many promo and Tyler, I bet you right

(22:58):
now as I'm saying this, because I could see your smirk,
you're picturing Cody Roads in that rin cutting that promo right.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
I'm seeing Jericho with that ridiculous blazer on exactly.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
There has been no Cody Rhodes promo in the WWE
where we can quote like that.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
There's been no moment with the forty five dollars. There's
been no monotone, just like man that promo he cut
to Steve Perino, I remember the Steve Corino living Dangerously
feud with Dusty Rhodes, Like I remember that, Like you're
telling me, like you finally get it, Like somebody comes

(23:37):
back as Greno the way he did it might like
his dad, Like, dude, that is exceptional. There's none of
that in WWE, And it just really really.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Pisses me off as a fan because it makes me
kind of a Cody hater, which is not where I
want to be.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
It's just not you know what.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Think I mean with w I just think that's what
you're gonna get though. Unfortunately, Yeah, it wanted him to
be away maybe well, and that's that's almost everyone though.
There's gonna be a little heat taken off of just
about everyone's fastball.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, no, I agree. But like we saw Babyface, Kevin Owens,
he's kind of a badass. We saw Babyface. Randy Orton,
he's kind of a badass. We see Babyface, see him Pump,
he's a badass. We've seen it with Drew. We've seen them.
Let people just go out there and be themselves and

(24:39):
it works. You know what I mean it works. So
the fact that, like, I love that you said that
Cody is neutered. I love that because that is like
the perfect term, right.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
But the one thing I wanted to point out too
is how do you feel, let's why don't we stay
on your superstars here? How do you feel about the
fact that Live Morgan is essentially working her ass off
to get booed. She has turned in the Live Morgan
revenge to her to straight up mean girls.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
That's who she's turned into. Calling people pathetic, calling people ugly,
you know, calling people losers.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
She's doing everything she can, and yet fans won't pay.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Her enough respect to be like, all right, you know
what you want us to boo you. You're working your
ass off, You're earning these booze.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
And I just don't think people look at it like that.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (25:40):
I don't think people look at it as like a
like they don't get that it's like a sign of respect.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
Oh okay, give me more, tell me more something.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
I else don't think people. I don't think that the
you know, the and I saw that you mentioned it
and your on your TikTok video, like the target audience, yes,
is gets that like, Okay, if I bow you, if

(26:11):
you're a heel and I bow you, that means that you're,
you know, doing your job. Yes, exactly, with the possible
exception of Dom.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Yeah, I mean Dom Dom is hated and he loves it.
I mean he says to himself he's not a people person,
He's nervous.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
So yeah, I was listening to that interview on the
way home. Yeah, freaking annoying.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah. Character Yeah him man lived. They were both in
character for that.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Like you, I haven't heard hers yet.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, she's definitely in character, like a lot of what
she says.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
I mean, but he's talking about his chicken tends when
I get home.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's kind of what I mean,
Like I kind of feel like it's one of those things.
And I gave.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
I gave the example of going to Monday Night Raw
years ago when Brian and Punk were both the big
champions and I was lucky to see World Heavyweight Champion
Daniel Brian versus WWE champs CM Punk one on one
on Monday Night Raw because John Laura and Night has
booked the.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Match, and I remember watching it because John Laura Nitis
was an unstring character. For people that don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
I briefly slip into a coma because I don't remember
that match.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
Oh sorry, But so they have their match on Monday
Night Raw, and I remember Tyler, You remember I was.
I'm always a bigger Brian fan than Punk. I used
to be angry that Punk was beating him on the
PL's Like, yes, I really thought Brian should have won
the title.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
And you know, years later we heard that Punk actually
tried to push for Brian to win the title at
one point, but they said no.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
Anyway, getting back to it, I knew that at that moment,
it's my job to boo Brian.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
It's my job to boo this man.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
I can't go in there and cheer the heel, no
matter how much I love the guy, you know what
I mean, Like, I can't.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
That's not what he's looking for. He's looking to be booed,
you know, like like at home. It's like the planets Champion.
I got all three of his Planet championship.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Especially when you're that type of heel exactly.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
He was a little slimy little ship like he was cheating.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
You know.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
He was kind of one of those heels that's really irritating.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
I think it's like like I think it's different with
a with A like an Edge, the Rated R Superstar.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
I would never boot Edge. I could do it.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
That's how Edge I bowed, you know, Ray and Jeff
Hardy because I was a fan of you know, Edge
and Punk same with same with Punk as a heel,
Like I never boot him because that's that's my dude.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, that's kind of one of those.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Things like learn since fan, like I wouldn't. I wouldn't
move him. I just can't.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Yeah, but I'd much rather stay quiet and watch you
than be the lone guy that's cheering you, like like
I learned the hard way that that's not what they want,
you know.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Like it's kind of one of those things like I
taught I told you.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
About the Alberto do Real thing before, Like you meet
him at an airport and he won't sign an autograph
and he kind of treats you like shit, and then
people are like why is he such a dick?

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Right?

Speaker 4 (29:36):
And you have one guy who's like, dude, he's just
in character and he turns around and he winks at you, like, yeah,
he's in character. He doesn't want like of course he
wants to sign the autograph. Of course he wants to
take a picture with you. You know, like, you don't
think they appreciate that they're that you're there. Fans like,
of course they do. You're part of the reason to
get up.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
But when I look at it, like if fans just
booed live right, Like, I genuinely feel sorry for her
because I feel like, once she drops the championship, She's
relegated to Dom's girlfriend, right, Like, is she going to
maintain in that level of storyline? I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
When she drops the strap, She's gonna be relegated to
Dom's girlfriend, And I feel like it's unfair. But if
she starts getting the type of heat that she gets
on Twitter, if she starts getting the type of heat
that she gets on TikTok, if she starts getting that
heat in live form and people start like booing her
and won't let her talk, I think WWE and Triple

(30:38):
H will be like, Yeah, this is our girl, we
found our heel.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Let's do it. Or guess what, Guys, If you want
to pull a Becky Lynch and you think she's the she,
she should be the Becky to the Charlotte. Right, Like,
if you feel like Riha's Charlotte and you feel like
Live is Becky and you need to make that happen,
then make your voices heard. Go out and cheer her
louder than everybody else.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
Boo everybody else, because guess what, guys, the only reason
that Becky was over was because they were booing the
shit out of Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
But here's the problem. Everyone loves Rhea.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
She is like you heard it in the Serious XM interview,
like Live is over, but Ria's like over, like it is.
It's a different level. And I've stated to this before,
like you talk about it, right, so you talk about
it with Cody Rhodes, and I wanted to bring it
to this, like you say how Cody's relatable and you
talk about how will ospray you love the human being

(31:38):
that he is, and you love the human being that
Finn is.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Well, that's the problem. People love the human being of Rhea.
She's flawed.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
She deals with anxiety, she deals with depression, and guess
what we don't find out about it.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
There rumors she's open.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
She literally did an interview talking about having a panic
attack at Russellminia forty superstars of her magnitude do not
share that part of their life.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
She is doing that to the masses. It's hard to
do that person right.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
And the other thing is she's just too good.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the problem.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Like, yeah, you can't help but respect you know what
she's doing out there because she's just she's one of
the top three stars i'd say on raw m.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah yeah, the other ones on a tag team. So
I know you.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Disagree with but wait what yeap on wrong?

Speaker 2 (32:43):
She's ever, she's a track chip, she can go where
she wants.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
I mean, she's she's obviously a star. They both are
her Banca and Jade. But I mean, like as far
as people that are just on Raw, like I would
say Pumpkin is maybe oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
Okay, okay, see we're just saying I see what you're saying.
I thought you met female star. But yes, you're right,
it doesn't matter gender.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
He's one of the top three. Like that is one
of the reasons I tuned into the show.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yes, And that's the thing. So every time I post,
so I want to make this clear.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Every time I post about Rhea RiPP, do you want
to know One of the comments that I get on
those videos, Tyler, there's always a brand new person that
jumps into my comments that says, Rihea is the.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Reason I came back to wrestling.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
That is huge, man, for that many people to say
that I left wrestling a while ago it was boring.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Riha brought me back. Dude, that's a different level of
over That's that's for you to bring in a new audience,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (33:53):
Because dude, I just I just reposted this video today
on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
It's a little girl, my daughter's age, Tyler. Her costume
is Rhea Ripley. She's mini Mommy, that's her costume. She's
a miniature, like a three year old Rhea Ripley. Like,
I get that people.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Want to hate her and they want to make these
disingenuous comments that she hasn't had a good match since
WrestleMania forty.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
You're so full of shit, you just want to hate her,
just the eater.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah. I don't agree with that at all.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
No, that's like saying seth Rawlins has bad. She's like,
get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
And she's that good.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
I thought. I mean, yeah, just I'm running through the
catalog right now I don't I don't know how she
Isn't that very many bad ones like.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
That's one of those that her match to her and
Live had at Summer Slam I thought was phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
Yeah, I mean that's the thing, like people don't even
realize like how good like she is. And I don't know, man,
I feel like I feel like, uh like the thing
I like to do, Like I'm just gonna be I'm
just gonna give full disclosure. You know, Tyler calls me
out for it all the time, but I'm gonna be
honest because I feel like in this conversation we kind

(35:21):
of need to be honest. Most of the time, I
fuck with Tyler's wrestlers, it is for interaction on this show.
Like I like, I genuinely like you heard me say
all the nice things about Cody Rhodes in this show
like ten minutes ago. That's genuinely how I feel about
Cody Rhoads.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
But a lot of the time it's better, it makes
better for better views if me and Tyler go at
it right. And you know, Tyler does that every now
and then he'll jump in and he'll make a comment
about Brian right, Like he doesn't mean it. He loves Brian,
but he's just kind of.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Making the next paper.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah, see what I mean.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
Like it's perfect right, But when I like, I don't know,
I feel like there are people that are massively across
the board purposely trying to hate on Rhea Ripley.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
But here's the problem, guys, this is in a Charlotte
situation because a lot of these fans don't realize she's
crushing the merch cells. Nobody's having.

Speaker 7 (36:22):
Nobody has more merch sales than her. It's not even close.
Her segments on Monday Night Raw are of the most
viewed on television. The rating spike when she's on TV.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
When they post the clips on YouTube, they're in the
one hundred thousands.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
That's how many people love this woman. So, as Tyler
says it, the majority of wrestling fans are telling us
this person good, and then there's TikTok that's telling us
that she's bad. And as I stated earlier, all of
TikTok is stopped watching w W right now, and it

(37:02):
wouldn't make a fucking DBT to w W. That's like
how big their audience.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Is, right, Like Eric Bischoff says, that's a rounding air.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah, exist viewers.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Yeah, yeah, like that's and that's I think what we
have to think about sometimes, like we are not they
know we're going to watch, so they're not pushing for us. Yeah,
I mean, they've thrown us a lot more bones than
they do in the past, of course, and I'm appreciative

(37:39):
of that. It's probably the best the products been. Oh god, ever,
maybe I don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah, it's pretty close. It's pretty close. Well, we're going
to talk about the product and.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
The real parcel to ninety seven. But I mean, okay,
I guess I don't feel the same way as I
did then. I felt exciting and like anything could happen,
and I don't have that anymore. I think, probably knowing

(38:14):
as much as I know, I never will.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's kind of one of
those things where like I can point out moments in
pro wrestling where I feel like I have been invested entirely, Like.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Roman Rings has done a great service to me as.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
A wrestling fan because he kept me invested for his
entire title ring. I'm a fan of his, he's one
of my favorites. But before Roman I didn't really have,
like you can go back to the Yes movement. That's
how long you have to go back before, like where
I was so invested, Like there was a moment in
time where I remember telling Pat like I just don't

(38:56):
like what I'm watching anymore, Like I didn't even like
what I was watching, right, you know, like you go
back to like the summer of punk, like punk with
Alberto de Rio and John Cena, and then like that
was great, you know two thousand and four, when when
when a specific wrestler main evented WrestleMania twenty, Like I

(39:16):
remember being invested into that, you know, Eddie Guerrero beating
like the great my personal favorite match of all time,
Eddie versus Brock, Like I to me that, like that's
the last time that I was like those are times,
moments in time, but there's nothing that's ever gonna top

(39:36):
ninety six to ninety eight for me.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
WCW.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, well yeah that too, Like anything anytime, anything could happen,
Like I was watching uh Breaking, I was watching the
episode of Nitro that we find out Bishoff's in the
nWo oh, yeah, that's a good one. Like Sunday Night,
I think I put it on to go to Sleep

(40:01):
and yeah, Piper's cutting that promo about Bishop being a liar,
and then then the wo comes out and yeah, man,
it was a different time, the freaking the Brett sewn
stone cold. Oh yeah, from ninety seven, Like nineteen ninety

(40:25):
seven is a crazy year because like breet Hart legitimately
probably has the best year of his career as a performer,
and then also, I mean, I guess obviously the worst
moment of it in the same year.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Yeah, but you also have to look at like the
beginning of his tenure in WCW is really good match quality.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
It may not be good like in terms of story,
but dude, he went in and immediately worked sting Ben
wah Malenko, mister perfect Kurt Henning when he works heading.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Works on his first paper rematch against Flair.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
Yeah, like this dude was putting out. It was like, yeah,
like the thing is, you know what the problem was
with that Tyler. WCW was the first company that told
us that match quality was the least of what made
someone successful, right.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Because they the cruiserweight division was always stout, and that's
they didn't give a shit. If you go back and
you Wikipedia just like WCW pay per views, some of
their biggest matches are like six minutes long, like the
biggest names like Bishoff didn't care about the inn ring wrestling.
He cared about the story.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Right, and that's what he had the Cruiser Weights for
was to fill that void for Yeah, those of us
who that's what we're you know what I mean? Yeah,
I mean that's perfect. Like I I mean, I'd love
it if we still had something like that, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yeah, no, I agree, I agree. So why don't we
move on to your other favorite wrestler and we.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
Talk about what's happening right now, because I feel like
it's one of the most compelling stories on Monday Night
Raw right now, which is Finn Balord and his jealousy
of Dominic Mysterial. How do you think this is gonna
play out? Because he at first, So I want to
say this, At first, I thought it was it was a.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Part of the story, like all Leed's trick, Damien and
Dom's gonna go out there and it's gonna kind of
be and then we'll like when you least expect it,
here comes Finn, you know what I mean, Like, I
thought it was a part of his character. But now
it's been back to back weeks and Dom has done
something that Finn couldn't do, which is beat Damien, and

(42:57):
the judgment day kind of helped Dom do it, and
Finn looks genuinely jealous. And it's kind of one of
those things where it's like I paid really close attention
to what Live Morgan said yesterday, which was like, what
do we guys talk? What are we talking about over here? Right?

Speaker 4 (43:16):
We're celebrating Dom's win, right, And it was almost like
Finn didn't really want to.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Celebrate the win.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah, he's really good at playing that role, I think,
as you remember he did it with Damien as well,
when Damien, Yes I had money in the bank. Yes,
I just think, yeah, I mean it makes a lot
of sense. I like im personally. I like the idea
that you had where the champion that that Dominic would

(43:52):
face would be Finn.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Yes, I love that. I really wanted that to be
in I thought that would have been perfect.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
And the thing is Adam Pierce trolls that would have
been That would have been a perfect thing, Like what.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Do you do there? You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (44:06):
But I don't know. I just think there's I think
he's destined to just kind of be above the below,
but below the upper, I.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Don't think so.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
I've never felt more strongly about the statement I'm about
to make, and that is I believe that years ago
when Triple H made that comment about Finnbaler being money,
I think he's about to cash in that money. I
think we're about to see baby face Fin Baler come back.
We're about to see the rainbow, We're about to see
this together, and we're about to see the Demon.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
And I think the Demon is going to show his face.
And I would not be surprised if.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
We get like that NXT version of Balor where they
lose the Tag Championships to the War Readers and Finn.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Kind of loses it.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
And I'm thinking, I think twenty twenty five is going
to be the best year of Finn Balord yet.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
I man, I hope you're right, because I mean, if
they go back to that, to that NXT character, that's
probably the best character he's had in the company, both
of them. The original NXT character was really great too,
it was, but it was more I mean, it was
very big. Yeah, yeah, I really love the the tweener.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Well, I do think Triple H likes the tweener.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
I don't think he likes because if you realize that
the tweeners get less, like less screen time, like he's
he's really taken La Knight off a TV he doesn't have.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
It's more like, yeah, because he likes he Yes, I
mean he has to kind of like a dick on SmackDown.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yeah, you almost made me think he was turning heel.
But that's kind of what made me feel like, Okay,
he's a tweeter. He's kind of like mister Kennedy.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah, that's a good. Yeah. He's like a diet version
of mister Kennedy.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah, agreed, because Ken Anderson was a hell of a worker.
By the way, I recommend to everyone, and I don't
do this often, I recommend to everyone after our show here,
jump on YouTube and type in Stevie Richards mister Kennedy.
He has a video, a twenty four minute video on

(46:45):
his YouTube channel where he talks about what got mister
Kennedy fired. It's a brilliant watch. Go watch it. It's
really good. Stevie Richards. I love the way he breaks
down stuff.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Sir.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
If you want to jump on our show here. We
would love to have a conversation with you. That would
be phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
I would love to talk about one of your former
members of the BWO Nova.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
I was a big fan of Nova.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
Wasn't a fan of him when he went to WWWE,
but I was a big fan of Nova.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Loved it, Kryptonite Crunch, loved all of it. It was awesome.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Anyway, do you know how he got his name?

Speaker 8 (47:22):
What?

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Nova?

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Oh? No, Simon Dean No? Do you know what? Dean
Malanko's real name is no Dean Simon. So they just
they just decided to flip that so every time they
would see each other, maybe like Dean Simon, Simon Dean.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
I don't know why he didn't come in. I feel
like the Nova character today in twenty twenty four works,
you know what I mean, Like if somebody came out
with that innovative offense, because he was like the ECW
version of like the Chris Canyon, Like the guy was
he was killing it like.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Now, didn't they they? He was like doing shit that
we had never seen before.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Yeah. Yeah, we had never seen some of the stuff
that he was doing before. Man, he was awesome.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
I was a big big fan, big fan of his,
big fan of his anyway.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Uh yeah, So I think twenty twenty five is.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
Gonna be the best version of Finn Baler that we get,
and I'm definitely excited for it.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
I'm I'm looking forward to it because I feel like
Finn has been kind of lurking in the background.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
As you said, like, look at like you're the biggest
Finn Bower fan I know, and even you don't buy
into the fact that he could have a monumental moment anymore,
Like you're just like, I think he's destined to be
either like upper mid card or right under the main event.
And it's like, you know what, that doesn't seem right
for Finn Bower. He's just too good. He's a pros pro,

(48:50):
He's that dude, and and he can be that guy
or like a video, Yeah, I mean I made a
video last week where I said, if you go back
and you watch his feud with seth Rawlins, if you
go back and you watch his feud with Roman Reigns,
when he had that impromptu Universal Championship match against Roman Rains,
he looks the part. He looks like the guy that

(49:12):
can be in that role. I know, a lot of
people see him and they're like, oh, he's five eleven.
He's like two hundred and five pounds, and it's like, dude, this.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Is certainly not five eleven.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
Well, you know, whatever, whatever you think he is, but
he definitely looks the part. He looks great, he sounds great,
and I feel like it's one of those things where
he's gotten progressively better on the microphone. Like you know,
if you take him and make him a baby face
and you have him cut promos that he cut, like
he cut the one on Seth Rowlins, the one that

(49:44):
the fans kept.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Woeing through that promo. If you go back and you
listen to that promo without the woes, it is an
exceptional It's the best promo he's ever cut in his career,
just the best where he talks about Seth took everything
away from him.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
And I know that I'm saying this now because I'm
viewing him as a baby face in my mind. At
the time, I hated the promo because it's not a
heel promo.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
It's just not. But well it.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
You say that, But like the they've all people have
always said, like the heel has to believe that he's.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
Right, yeah, but more of a jealousy type of thing,
not like you took something from me and that was
the truth.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
That's the problem with that program. I mean, that's true truth.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
It's true in a way. But I think I think
people the way people look at it would be like, oh,
quit whining you you know, it's a you know, the
same ballet it happens.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
Yeah, yeah, but the fact that like Seth had had
a couple, like he had the knee shots to see,
now he.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Had a running power bomb, he had this sting, and
like he had become pegged as like the guy who injures.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
You, like.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
You know, and then Brett says what he said about him,
which he later retracted, and you know, they talked it
out and stuff. But like when you listen to Finn
Bauer's promo, it's like, all right, dude, like during that time,
you kind of were an unsafe worker, you know what
I mean, Like it was kind of one of those things.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
But now it's I think I think that particular move
is should be banned. It has to be done a
certain way.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
Yeah, it's like the Sunset flip power bomb that Bailey
and Sasha Banks do. I don't want them to do
that move because they're gonna hurt themselves.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
They both hit their ankles on the ropes when they
flip over for the sunset.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
And it pisses me off because it's like, girls, that
is not a safe move, not for the person you're working,
because that person it's all them how they fall, but
you are gonna whack your It's like you said this
a while ago to me, who was it that you
said took a like a flip Like I forgot what
it was, but you said the person flipped over and

(52:14):
they went too far and their legs hit. Was it
Eddy where you hit the ropes and the ropes could
have just like fractured their ankle or something.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
And it's in the match and then the mats with Bread.
I think he was lucky, like real early in that
match that he.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Just yes that that was ten right ten y.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
So that's what I mean, Like, there there are moves
in wrestling that should be banned, you know, I mean
there there's whatever, but.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Because the move like that, like if you're like if
there's sweat and there's like if you just slip even
just a little bit, like just a little yep, like
might what happened?

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Yeah, I mean, it happens.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
I mean fortunately, you know, like knock on what I
never wanted to happen again. But we saw High Bosa
slip off the top roape, we saw d Lo Brown
with draws like we've seen some accidents happen. We saw
Owen Hart with Steve Austin, like we saw some of
these moves that.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
We've seen happen before. We've seen and their their accidents.
So I agree that running that power bomb in the
corner should to be banned. It should be banned.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Yeah, it seems they've figured out a way to do
it without you know, anyone getting hurt.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
But yeah, yeah, I mean I agree, it's it just
makes one slip, Yeah, you know that's it.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
Just one little like minimal slip and and it's unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
But so yeah, Tyler, why don't we talk about.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
Ae W and the new John Moxley and how he's
slowly but surely trying to fix the company and where
do you think this is going?

Speaker 2 (54:01):
So let's start here. There was a report that came
out uh after Brian in right away after Brian dropped
the championship, to John Moxley that it was John Moxley
who called an audible to beat Brian Danielson for the
aw World Championship and to keep it away from Darby

(54:24):
because he felt like he can get Darby over more.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
Since that this is the internet went crazy. We now
found out that it was actually Brian Danielson's call. He
called the audible.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
It's his story, the story that's being run right now
in aew with Moxley. This is Brian's baby. He came
up with this story. So now knowing that, what's beautiful?

Speaker 4 (54:53):
Oh okay, well then I love that. I love that
you think that because I know you're not the biggest
Moxley guy. So the just the fact that you gave
it compliment, I need to know more.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
What about its beautiful to you?

Speaker 1 (55:04):
I love the way he carries himself and the way
he talks. I had some issues with some of his
matches and some of the things he was doing at times,
but I do love the Like I said, I love
the way he carries himself, in the way he talks.
He is a little bit of a different vibe to
most people. And yeah, it's just like it makes it

(55:32):
seem it makes wrestling seem dangerous, yes, and that is
something like like I said about ninety seven, like like
when I was watching that as a kid, it felt
like everything was like anything could happen, like anything, like
like like it was dangerous. Yeah, so that's to me,

(55:52):
like it makes me feel something and I love it
and I love that. Now it looks like Orange Cassidy's
gonna be the guy to step up, and oh I.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
Love that because we were big fans of Orange Cassidy
on our show here.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
And they have been doing gnahing with him.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Agreed nothing And maybe this is why because I just
I want to rock with Darby because he stings guy
and he put in so much work. But Orange, like
he's a personal favorite. I just I love what he does.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
He's like that one guy, like I feel like he
turned a comedy act into a really great performer.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
And I'm looking forward to this because they kind of
have a.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
Feud, like Max beat him for the International Championship.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Yeah they have history and yeah, yeah, I mean he
did like he finally on Wednesday said all right, I
guess I'm gonna have to do it. Mm hmmm. It's
gonna have to be me because when they attack chalk.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Nobody cares about you.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Hm, well he does. It's a vile he tuk the
vehicle to get orange to give a shit.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
I agree that I've never been a fan of that guy.
He looks weird.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Mm hm oh.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Anyway, yeah, I think uh, I think it's I mean,
obviously I get that it's not the same, but it's
the closest thing I felt to like nw O vibes
like anything can happen. Who knows who's gonna come out next? Yeah,

(57:40):
in a long time. I think it's a beautiful story.
You know what I.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Find really interesting about it. I'll let you continue, but
I wanted to add to your stuff, so maybe you
can give me some thoughts on this as well. A
couple of months ago, John Moxley was on his wife's podcast,
or Rennee pet podcast, The Oral Sessions, and he said
about Rina, Sure, he said, give her to me and
I'll turn her into a star. And holy shit, he

(58:08):
has made her scary.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Right, And that's the thing, Like, that's that's that girl's
a monster. Like I don't understand why she's never even used,
probably by any company.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Mm hmm. She's got great.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
W W w he didn't do a damn thing with
her aside from putting her on velveteen Dreams fans.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
I don't remember that.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Okay, he was feuding with Roddy. That's Roddy's wife.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Oh yes, okay, okay, got it. He pulled the Rick
rude ye, well quite literally.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Yeah. Yeah, but then, uh, you know, I think I
think he either got hurt or he got in trouble
in that few and like, other than being like Ronda's
you know buddy. Yeah, yeah, she didn't really didn't do
much with her, and neither has AW obviously, but now

(59:14):
she's at least you know, storyline adjacent.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Yeah, I mean, I so I made this comment.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
I made a video where I was talking about I
think we need to pay attention to AW because I
think this this John Moxley thing about him fixing AW.
I think it is a real effort from the company
to change AW. I don't think it's just the I
don't think it's just like behind the scenes shit. I

(59:46):
think it's the product on screen. I think they're trying
to fix They're trying to make things matter more.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
And honestly, I don't think it's just them, And I
think a lot of people are stepping up because holy hell,
tigh Shelton Benjamin looks absolutely unreal right now, Like I

(01:00:12):
only yes, just I mean we're talking about like he
looks like the Shelton that was in the match with
Shawn Michaels. He looks like that, but he he's added
the scary like Minnesota wrestling vibe to him, like the
way he's toss it fuckers around, Like, dude, he threw
Sammy up for that. I was like, so, like Leo

(01:00:35):
looks it makes.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
Sense because Leo is like tiny, right, but Sammy Gavar
is not a really small dude like he he's kind
of like average, you know, he's like an average size
maybe like two hundred and two hundred pounds or whatever.
But to see him just like chuck his ass up
in the air like that, I was like, wow, And

(01:00:58):
I mean it sucks for sam.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Mean because he kind of got tossed to the job.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
Yeah, I mean when you look at it, when you
see what's happening, it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Definitely a scary situation, you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Know, right, And I think like Shelton, for whatever reason,
I don't know why they had so many stop star pushes,
because like It surprises me that the tribulation didn't see
the value in him and that he wasn't one of
the people that was sent to n XT, because like

(01:01:34):
that's a that's a perfect example of a guy that
people could learn from. Yeah, and surprises me that he
didn't see the value because obviously he's always thought he's talented,
Like he put him over when he first came to RAW, Yeah,
and he didn't Triblations didn't put guys over like, so
obviously he must have felt like there was something there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Yeah, I mean, I I don't know. Clearly, there is a.

Speaker 8 (01:02:07):
There's an effort to push push the Triple H guys
mm hm, like the guys that Vince didn't value, that
Vince kind of like tortured.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
And we've heard we've heard recently, like we've heard rumors that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
Vince I forgot who said it, but we've heard rumors
that Vince didn't that he didn't like that Triple H
had his own thing, and that Vince it wasn't Vince's idea.
So he would take wrestlers from him, bring him to
the main ross, bring them to the main roster, and
ruth them, put them in an unwinnable situation. And I

(01:02:51):
mean it's a little conspiracy theorist, right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
But no, based on based on.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Face on fucking Maximus Ridius Carrion Cross, based on Max Dupree.
Like we've seen guys that have been super over in
n XT that they have put so much effort into
and they come to the main roster and then like

(01:03:21):
like Carrion Cross is undefeated, maxd his first match, he
loses to Jeff Party, like and not like this Jeff Party,
not like the eight Like not like the Jeff Party
that's like.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
That we know and love and want to root for
and were arm sleeves for, Like not that Jeff Hardy.
Just like this like pretty much a shell of himself.
Like at the end you know of his wwe run.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
But I mean he's been great.

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
He looks smoother, clean, he looks clean, he looks sober,
he looks fast, he looks great.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
And but.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Yeah, I mean we watched that and well obviously watched
Keith Leet the Bearcat. That was awful.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Yeah, he got to push for a minute, but then
but then yeah, I don't know why Vince, I don't
know why Vince was convinced that he needed to be
that character, and like he even went to him during
TV and he was like, look, this is what I
need from you, like convinced, you know, it doesn't just
like he's usually at Grilla during TV, he doesn't just
go talk to people. And he was convinced that that's what. Like,

(01:04:32):
I don't I don't understand why he wasn't just committed
to having the best possible product. Why, Like, yes, I
feel like there came a time where he felt like
the name itself carried enough weight that it was just

(01:04:52):
like a vehicle to amuse him.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Yeah, breaking news that NXT.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
Rihea Ripley was on hand today to celebrate Delta and
Jordan Grace's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Arrival in NXT and there was a backstage segment in
which very Allah, Sean Michaels and Triple H when Shawn
Michaels was the commissioner and got bloody, left bloody on
the hood of a car.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
Bit Morgan and Roquel Rodriguez have left Ria bloody Ripley
bloody in.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
The parking lot.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
It the video, the picture looks brutal. We did not
see the actual punishment that's doled out, but Rhea sold
the shit out of.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
This, it looks phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
Live and Roquel are seen walking off with big lead pipes,
swinging them around like baseball bats. I mean, for the
people that say that Live Morgan has not been put
in a position to be successful against Rhea, you guys
don't know your ass from your elbow, because this is
how you build a monster heel, and this is how
you garner sympathy for a babyface.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's great. I think it's
it's obviously gonna hopefully really ignite things.

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
Yes, I think it's a great thing. I mean, I
think we're headed into the right. But I don't think
that this ends.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
I'm hoping, just hope. I don't think that this ends
with Rihea Ripley winning the title back. I don't think that's.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
What happens, booking themselves into a corner where they don't
have a choice.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Okay, well, what do you mean by that?

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Because at some point she just can't just keep losing. Yeah,
the one thing I could see is that she's just
so mad that she just gets deheued.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Brett Jerry Lawler, you're.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Similar okay, yeah, similar to that, or just yeah, like
Orley Ken Shamrock snapping and you know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Ah, okay, I like, I like both of those. We've
never seen that from a woman's standpoint, so I think
that would be a really great thing. I mean, Rhea's
booked as a monster like pretty much as like the
top dog.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
There is the thing, right, Too often in wrestling, I
think we worry too much about like who won and
lost yes a match, versus what happened in the match. Like,
for instance, I'll give you an example, Okay, like uh

(01:07:55):
mj f and and Danielson when they had the Iron
Man match, like it was like it was everyone acted
like Danielson was, you know, a failure or whatever, and
he was like moove a face and whatnot because I'm
JF one. But if you watch, if you look, for
like weeks afterwards, dude's face was all messed up and like,

(01:08:17):
so what happened was you got to fight a guy
that you hate for over an hour and you beat
the ever loving shit out of him the point that
he's barely recognizable for weeks. So like, that's not he
can't come away from that and be like, oh man,
I feel yeah, Like, especially if we're trying to push
this as reality based yes, because I just like I think,

(01:08:42):
I often think like a fight that I wanted to
be and that didn't end up happening. Uh, I knew
pretty I was pretty sure I wasn't gonna win the fight,
but he was gonna feel it too, and I was

(01:09:06):
fine with that, Like that was you know, it is
what it is. Yeah, you gotta take damage to you know,
do your thing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Yeah, I mean I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
I think it's definitely one of those strange things. I
love what you're saying. I just kind of feel like
I worry.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
And I mean this because I genuinely do feel like
this is the best like.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
Version of her that we've gotten on the ring roster.
I worry that where does liv go from here? If
she loses the championship to Riha and then they have
the rematch and Riha beats her again, right, Like, let's say,
all right, let's say that it plays out like this.
Let's say Live loses the championship to Ria Ripley, Ria

(01:10:00):
Ripley's champ next pay per view, they have their rematch,
rock Ul gets inserted.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
So now it's a triple threat. Right, So now it's
a triple threat and you have.

Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
Like Roquel and like Rockel takes the pin to save
Live right or they want to save rock Kel versus
Ria for the future.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
And Live takes the pin right. So now now live
has lost.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
The championship, and then traditional sense, she loses the rematch.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Where do you go from there? What are you doing?
Because now we're in the midst of Tiffany's gonna be like.

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
That in that spotlight, because we're getting the whole Wednesday
like we're getting the whole like you know, Wednesday Adams
type of thing with like you know, Tiffany and Rhea
and they're playing it up on the internet and fans
are eating that shit up. And then Becky's on her
way back. She's teasing it. Charlotte is pretty close to
being cleared, right, So this is what's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Osca is gonna be back. That's four women that are
gonna come back, and then there's a teaser that's a
bliss we might start seeking agreed, but are they gonna come?
Like do you honestly think that EO's done?

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
Like everybody's fantasy booked WrestleMania's EO versus Rhea, Like I
don't even know where they got that fucking match from
But I've seen it and literally everybody's fantasy booking.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Is it just a match people want to see?

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
I guess, I mean we've seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, Ria's not gonna work
somebody like EO.

Speaker 4 (01:11:44):
Like, don't get me wrong, EO's amazing, She's amazing. But
like Ria's past couple of WrestleMania matches have been like
there's Charlotte Osca, Charlotte Becky, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
She's not working. She's not working EO.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
I'm sorry, Like if anything, she's working Beyonca, if Bianca
doesn't work Jade, you know what I mean, Like I.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Don't know that we get there from here yet maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
Yeah, I mean that that's kind of That's kind of
how I feel about it. Like I just kind of
feel like it's it's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
Yeah, it's you know, there's there's a lot of talent
and then that's great, that's that's exciting. Like but yeah,
you're right, like where does she go? Like I mean, obviously,
like I said something, they're gonna have to be with somebody.

(01:12:42):
So like, agree, did Charlotte come back as a baby face,
because like you know, she's been gone so long do
we miss her to the point that she comes back
as a baby face.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
So the rumors currently are that Charlotte comes back and
immediately jumps into a program with Nya and Tiffany.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
And I think if the objective is to get her
to be the one to beat Nya, because it's Charlotte
Flair and it takes a queen to beat a queen.
And then obviously Charlotte's the type of person that she
can come in, she can lose, and it's not going
to affect She's at the John Cena level.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
We're losing, doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (01:13:23):
She's Charlotte Flair, right, I mean, she's she's at the
level where it's her job to put people over right now.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Right. If she came in and beat Nia, do people
would Yeah? I was just gonna say, don't you think
people would kind of shit on that?

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
No, because she'd beat she came in, she'd beat she
came in, and she beat Rondo.

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
Yeah, but and then she lost the championship to Nicky Cross,
and I think everybody was like, yeah, that that makes sense, Like,
is the person to beat Ronda? Yeah, But it had
to be Charlotte to beat Ronda because Charlotte has a
better record against Rome than anybody else, and then she's
the person to drop the chair.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
I mean, think about it, like Charlotte's been cashed in
on three times. Like she's the person you cash in on.
Nikki Cross, Bailey and Carmela, They've all cashed in on
Charlotte Flair.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
It's interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Yeah, right, so mean Tiffany, It's kind of one of
those things. I mean, obviously we know Tiffany's wrestling Live
Morgan Friday night on SmackDown, so I'm pretty sure Live
Morgan's winning that minute. I don't see Live going into
the pay per view of the loss.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
I don't know. I guess we could look it up
since it's already happened.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
No, I'm not doing that. I got mad at somebody
else because I thought they spoiled something. So when I
told you that thing, I made a fifteen second TikTok
video and some asshole jumped into my comments like, I
guess they're not an asshole because they were wrong. No
they were actually no, no, they were wrong. They thought
it was seth.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
I was like, oh, I had said the theory about
like Finn Bala versus, and they jumped into my comments
and like it was pre recorded, like made me think
we're all was pre recorded.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
And I was like, what I'm going row, how's it
pre recorded?

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
And they were like it's a dark match and it
was seth rawlins and I was like boom, why would
you do that?

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Like That's what I said to them, And then.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
I thought about it and I was like, oh, I'm
going to the show, like this is weird, but.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Yeah, I'll never go to another show before Saudi.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
I really felt like the Saudi thing really messed things up.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
Well, yeah, in general, Yeah, yeah, I mean agreed glad
to have wrestling to watch on Saturday afternoon. But besides
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's definitely a strange thing.

Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
But yeah, Tyler, before we wrap up here, is there
any other news and professional wrestling that you wanted to
talk about? Anything else that you think we missed that
maybe you might want to mention or is there anything
that I said on a video that you had a
bugaboo about?

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Uh no, yeah, I guess I want to kind of
you touched on you know, he'll work, can go too far?
Or whatever?

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, let's do that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
It can did she did she say something about Rhea's
like anxiety in that. No, but so she just called
the fans losers and whatever ugly and yeah, I don't
I don't have a problem with that. It's like heels
have done that since the beginning of time, like Bobby Heenan,

(01:16:48):
you know, uh, ravishing recruit Rabbit. You stole literally ripped
it out of my mouth. You know, it's a it's
that's a thing, and it's a character. It's fine now,

(01:17:08):
you know. I don't like getting into real life personal
ship mm hmm uh. I mean, I guess if it's
cleared by the other person, it is what it is,
and that's fine. It's not something I would be comfortable
with for the most part, So as long as that
line isn't crossed, I think it's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
Yeah, I mean, I I guess I agree. I guess.
I just kind of feel like I saw this school.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
Clip from Anthony Jesselnick where he talks about that Tony
the guy from Madison Square Garden, and he he made
it clear he said, what when you know someone went
too far is when a comedian makes a joke and
they didn't get away with it, Like if you made

(01:18:01):
a joke and people are more offended than they find humorous,
Like where nobody thought it was funny and everybody's offended.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
You didn't get.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
Away with it, and you doubling down on it only
makes it worse, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
And I kind of just felt like like.

Speaker 4 (01:18:16):
I feel like we're in this area where we don't
need to fall back on that type of heel heat,
you know what I mean, Like you can be edgy,
you can be a mean heel, you could be a
badass heel without going to that type of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
I mean, because that's the thing. There are people that
Virie as a roma, you know, because what she means,
because what she did, and it's definitely like nerve wracking

(01:18:57):
and it's sad to see, like you know, like that
that's where like live, Like I feel like she's done
so well with her character, and I just kind of
felt like that rubbed me the wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
Way, like it was just like, eh, I don't really
like it, and it didn't. It wasn't like that was
really good because you've like I've praised a lot of her,
like when we talk at least I don't do it
on TikTok because it's not engaging. But when we talk,
I say, I say it all the time, this is
the best version of live, like and I've said it
here on the show, Like I don't want her to

(01:19:31):
lose the championship because I'm afraid of what's gonna happen
to her when she loses it, right, So like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
I kind of feel like I don't think she needs that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
Yeah, I just think like maybe the question was asked
and like, yeah, I mean I do what to say.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
I think it was also the question that was asked
was kind of asked.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
I think I was kind of a dick about it,
you know what I mean, Like when I when I
think about the thing, he was like, you're over, But
then like Rhea is over over, and it's like, well, you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Kind of set her up to be on her defensive.

Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
Like even if she didn't, you're essentially saying that she's
not superstar, over.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
Right, And first of all, like I feel like wrestlers
probably don't really like when those terms are used. Yes,
I I said it to one once. I used that

(01:20:36):
term and he didn't say anything, but like I don't
know if it was I think it was puzzy. He
agreed with what I said, but I think if it
had been something different, it may have you know, rubbed
him the wrong way. Yeah, but yeah, I don't thing

(01:21:00):
I don't. I don't think, like I said, I don't
think wrestlers particularly care for like get an interview like
who was the interview with?

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
Oh, it's just some serious, serious exam guy, I've seen it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
It wasn't. It wasn't like Busted Open. It wasn't like
Bully Ray or any of those guys, so that would
be different. But like just some rando Like I feel
like there's a couple of people that could get away
with it, like like a Chris van Vliet or but

(01:21:34):
but just some rando there, or like a Sam Roberts
or a like that. But yeah, I mean definitely put
off by the question and just like didn't really know
what to say.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
She definitely came off like when you watch her demeanor.
I don't think she liked the question. I will say
that I think I think I I I don't think
she appreciated the question.

Speaker 5 (01:22:03):
Like I think it was one of those things where
it's like there's another way to phrase it, like, oh,
how do you feel that Rhea has done all of
this stuff to you, and yet she still has support
from from a fan base.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
Like then you know that leads to.

Speaker 4 (01:22:23):
A milder kind of like comment where she can trash
the internet, where she could trash like the fans, but
for him to kind of say like you're over, but
she's like over over almost like and the way he
said it too, like he lifted his hand almost like
like bro, she's up here and you're down here.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
You know, it's like you're a popular woman's wrestler, but
she's a popular wrestler.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Yes, yes, that's that's the way it came off. Yeah,
the interviewer definitely pushed her into.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
Which it's not wrong, but still.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Yes, but we'll see how popular she like, we'll see
because clearly this is going to take a couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
I just sorry, I just really think Ria is on
a whole other level from mm hm the entire rest
of the women's division. I think she is. She's like
like like, she's not a she's not a she's not
a diva.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
She's a star. She's a star. You said it best earlier,
you said it best a couple of minutes you said,
lives a really popular woman's wrestler. Ri is a very
popular wrestler, right, that's the best to put it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
I mean, it's kind of like she she's reached the
Becky and Charlotte level.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
She's at that point.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
She's crossed over. It's like it's like, uh, Taylor Swift
was a you know, she was a super popular country
artist and then she just became one of the most
popular artists in music. Agree agree as the tailor's lift

(01:24:14):
of the wrestling I.

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
Agree, Yeah, definitely that. But yeah, man, I mean, thank
you so much guys for tuning into our show. We
definitely wanted to have that for you. We're hoping to
have more open dialogue and discussion like this. We don't
want to, as we stated on the last show we
did together, we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Really want to be a review show. There's so many
of those out there and there they're so great at it.
This is what we want to do.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
We want to have a conversation about wrestling. So join
us in the chat, you know, send us questions and comments,
whatever you want to do, like like subscribe, share our podcast,
because the best way to get us out there is
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(01:25:00):
immediately put on Spotify by our producer. This show that
we just did right now will be on Spotify tomorrow morning.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
And we are able to cross over to the audio area.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
So if you don't want to sit here and look
at our beautiful mugs and you just want to listen
to our sensual voices, that's right, I said sensual. If
you want to listen to our voices and you want
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while you're cooking, while you know, anything you're doing with
walk in your dog, it's a great listen.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Give us a chance. We definitely think that you'll appreciate
we have.

Speaker 4 (01:25:40):
There's something for everybody here, and we're always open. You
send us questions and comments and we love interacting with you.
Last night I interacted with one random person who told
me that he thinks that Shinski Nakamura is going to
beat Cody Rhodes for the WWE.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
Championship at Backlash twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
I'm sure it's the person that's employed by w w E.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
I have no idea, but.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
Yeahkamara, not not not the guy that you were talking to.

Speaker 4 (01:26:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
Definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
I feel like I've been on TV as much as
that guy has this year.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
Yeah, I mean that's crazy, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
Yeah, I'd love to see that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
Yeah, that'd be so dope. The super villain American Nightmare
versus like Shinsky and Akimora. That'd be fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
Great, the fucking Shinsk and Amora that was feuding with Seth. Yeah,
that would be awesome, A great Japanese.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
Yeah, it'll be fucking brilliant, just brilliant.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
Yeah, it would be really good. So I don't know
who you are, but I hope you work for w W, sir,
and let's book that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Yeah, agreed, agreed, let's get in, let's get into it.
But yeah, guys, thank you so much for tuning in.
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