June 11, 2024 • 12 mins
Para el físico alemán no había mayor misterio que el de la creación, hasta el punto de llegar a afirmar que «quien no puede asombrarse ni maravillarse es que está muerto». Su Dios es la obra de la Naturaleza, no uno que recompense o castigue a quienes ha creado. Una religión cósmica que aspira a comprender a través de la ciencia. Einstein piensa que el origen de las creencias no hay que buscarlo tanto en la razón como en los sentimientos: «Todo lo imagi- nado y realizado por el hombre sirve para liberarlo de sentimientos de necesidad y para calmar sus sufrimien- tos. Hay que tenerlo en cuenta si queremos comprender los movimientos espirituales y su desarrollo”. Utiliza el código CIENCIADIGITAL y obtén tu descuento en Muy Interesante, sigue con este link https://bit.ly/3TYwx9a Déjanos tu comentario en Ivoox o Spotify, o escríbenos a podcast@zinetmedia.es ¿Nos ayudas? Comparte nuestro contenido en redes sociales . Texto: Sebastián Gómez Millán Dirección, locución y producción: Iván Patxi Gómez Gallego @ivanpatxi Contacto de publicidad en podcast: podcast@zinetmedia.es
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
(00:00):
For the German physicist there was nogreater mystery than that of creation to the
point of asserting that it is deadwho cannot be amazed or marvelled. Your
God is the work of nature.Not one who recompenses punishes those who have
created a cosmic religion that aspires tounderstand through science. The podcasts of very
(00:25):
interesting, great reports of very interestingEinstein presents cosmic religion and science a text
by Sebastián Gámez Millán. To whatextent is a strictly scientific mind compatible that
(01:00):
explains the phenomena of reality in anatural way according to the principle of causality,
with belief in God. For thissecond reason, it is not necessary
to embrace faith in order to receivegrace, while philosophers and scientists, as
George Babnsburg maintained, have only faithin doubt. Unlike faith, science does
not need to be such a disciplinethat it undergoes criticism, replication, and
(01:23):
progresses to test and contrast empirically.Freud ironized by indicating that humanity had made
great progress in receiving three narcissistic wounds, all of them by the hand of
science. First, by accepting withthe discovery of Copernicus heliocentrism that the human
being does not occupy the center ofthe universe. Second, with Darwin'
(01:46):
s discovery, since we are notsomething divine in the image and likeness of
God, but rather animals within theevolution of species. Third, with the
discovery of the psychoanalyst, according towhich it is not reason, but the
unconscious that governs our life. Ifthere is no contradiction, there is at
least an almost insoluble tension between scienceand faith symbolized during modernity, in cases
(02:10):
such as those of Giordano Bruno,who ended up burning alive in a bonfire
by Galileo' s inquisition, orthe most popular but least tragic. It
would be said that, if itwere possible to choose, while some would
prefer the truth of God, otherswould prefer the endless search for truth,
(02:37):
what place God occupied in Albrenstein's mind. He is one of the
greatest scientists in history, perhaps alongwith Newton and Darwin, and certainly the
most popular of the 20th century.According to one of his biographers Sipis not
his religious stage did not last long. Once again he adopted his own way
of thinking and at the age oftwelve he embraced the form of cosmic religious
(02:59):
disbelief that would last his whole life. He used the word God so often
that sometimes he deceived people from hischildhood. He possessed a deep religious feeling,
but when he speaks of God hedid not refer to what a religious
believer understands by this word. Ashe himself said in his mature years,
I believe in the God of spinopha, which is revealed in the harmony of
(03:22):
all that exists, not in aGod who deals with the destiny and actions
of men. What does the Godof thorny mean? God is the concept
with which he opens and to whichhe dedicates himself. The first of the
five parts of ethics proved according tothe geometric order of Baru Espinoza, who
(03:43):
lived between one thousand six hundred thirty- two and one thousand six hundred seventy
- seven. Perhaps the most consequentlyrationalist philosopher ever existed. In fact,
Espinoza is only going to the rootand reformulating from a naturalistic, homonist,
substantial and deterministic perspective. The approachof discards when it divided reality into three
types of substances, infinite substance God, extensive substance bodies and thinking substance self
(04:11):
or soul. Spinoza understands God asa natural nature, not natural nature,
a creative nature, not created.Thus God is identified with nature deus and
venatura. In the words of FernandoSavater in the Universe, everything is part
(04:34):
of a single and unique substance allthat exists is a single and unique substance
that can be called the god ornature of the infinite and inconceivable attributes of
that substance. We only know two, thought and extension. Each of these
(04:58):
attributes is celebrated in different ways bymeans of ideas and actions in the fields
of thought and extension, respectively,which are intercomunicated, but there is no
hierarchy adding is abater that many ofthe sufferings of man come from his propensity
to form inappropriate ideas under the empireof imagination, which whimsily mixes the ideas
of different bodies without respecting the patient, causal concatenaczio that guarantees the nitity of
(05:26):
understanding. One of those illusions ofimagination is freedom. The doctrine of Espinoza
by which it was in his dayis communed as heretic, slandered, and
branded as ungodly. It' sa form of deterministic pantheism and it matches
Einstein. It is a conception thatquestions the freedom and responsibility of human beings
(05:46):
in actions, because according to Espinoza, men believe themselves free because they ignore
the causes that determine their behaviors.However, knowing the necessity that governs these
innumerable chains of causes that determine lifeand history is a form of liberation.
Hence Espinoza speaks at the end ofthe ethics of intellectual love, to God,
(06:10):
that is, to the nature fromwhich we come, by which we
are as we are and which determinesus at all times. To know God,
as Vidal Peña has pointed out,is not to take refuge in the
lap of the prize for our sacrifices, nor to expect the future to bring
(06:33):
about the cancellation of all alignment,but to remain very conscious of itself and
of things, knowing that salvation isnot in another world or in a better
world, but in what is there. It is not strange that it is
penoza that they call it atheistic,because it identifies God with materialistic nature because
it denies the substantial distinction between souland body and immoral because it rejects religiously
(06:56):
inspired morality. Einstein thinks that theorigin of beliefs should not be sought,
both in reason and in feelings.Everything imagined and realized by man serves to
free him from feelings of need andto calm his sufferings. It must be
(07:17):
taken into account if we want tounderstand spiritual movements and their development. Distinguish
three types of religions, which isa fruit of evolution or progress. Although
human conquests are neither irreversible nor definitive, they can be mixed. First,
the religion of fear, which appearswith primitive man because of elementary emotions,
(07:39):
fear of hunger, wild animals,disease, death. Later, moral religion
appears. Einstein perceives the transit fromthe first to the second in the sacred
scriptures of the Jewish people. Whilethe religions of all civilized peoples, especially
those of the East, are essentiallymoral religions, the difference between the two
(08:01):
above, cosmic religion lacks this anthropomorphicconcept of God. The religious geniuses of
all times were admirable thanks to thisreligiosity, which knew neither dogmas nor any
God conceived in the manner of man. Among such geniuses, he mentions heretics
as democritus Francis of Assisi and Espinoza. Einstein suggests that cosmic religion is ethically
(08:24):
higher and more civilized than the previousreligion, first because it operates under the
hypothesis of causality and, secondly,because it does not act out of fear
of punishment and hope of a post- death prize. Paradoxically, cosmic religion,
(08:46):
far from opposing science, is,according to Einstein, one of its
main spurs. Cosmic religiosity is thehighest stimulus of scientific research, what a
deeper faith in the rationality of thebuilt universe and what a longing to understand
even though it was only a smallpart of the reason this world reveals.
They had to encourage Kepler, Newtonto be able to unravel the mechanism of
(09:09):
celestial mechanics. With the solitary workof so many years, it is customary
to believe that, as the sciencesprogress, the mystery and enchantment of the
world diminishes. But I find amore life- giving and fruitful logic in
deciphering nature and, at the sametime, in recognizing the mystery of creation.
(09:31):
According to Einstein, the mystery isthe most beautiful thing that is given
us to feel. It is thefundamental feeling, the cradle of art and
true science Who does not know it, who cannot be amazed or marvelled,
is dead in this line. Thephilosopher of science, Jesús Mosterín, argued
(09:54):
that science without mysticism runs the riskof staying in mere methodological gymnastics. Mystique
without science easily degenerates into self-deception and superstition. Only the juicy conjunction
of scientific knowledge with mystical feeling allowsus to aspire to achieve that state of
lucid exaltation and vital fullness in whichCommunion with the universe exists. Einstein did
(10:20):
not believe in a God who rewardsand punishes beings created by himself. Nor
do I want, nor can Ithink, that the individual survives his bodily
death, that weak souls feed thosethoughts out of fear or out of ridiculous
selfishness. The mystery of the eternityof life suffices for me, with the
honest aspiration to understand even the leastpart of reason that we can discern in
(10:43):
the work of nature. Therefore,let us not be boxed by labels that
drag us into dead ends. Youcan be atheist and, at the same
time, religious sea matter cute andspiritual. Einstein was deeply religious, but
(11:05):
religious without relying on any religious,religious institutionalization without a personal pantheistic and deterministic
God. Hence his famous phrase.God does not play dice, that is,
there is no chance. We usethis term where knowledge ends and ignorance
begins in the absence of discovering othersecret laws that weave and weav nature.
(11:31):
O God of thanks for listening tothe podcasts of very interesting
For the German physicist there was nogreater mystery than that of creation to the
point of asserting that it is deadwho cannot be amazed or marvelled. Your
God is the work of nature.Not one who recompenses punishes those who have
created a cosmic religion that aspires tounderstand through science. The podcasts of very
(00:25):
interesting, great reports of very interestingEinstein presents cosmic religion and science a text
by Sebastián Gámez Millán. To whatextent is a strictly scientific mind compatible that
(01:00):
explains the phenomena of reality in anatural way according to the principle of causality,
with belief in God. For thissecond reason, it is not necessary
to embrace faith in order to receivegrace, while philosophers and scientists, as
George Babnsburg maintained, have only faithin doubt. Unlike faith, science does
not need to be such a disciplinethat it undergoes criticism, replication, and
(01:23):
progresses to test and contrast empirically.Freud ironized by indicating that humanity had made
great progress in receiving three narcissistic wounds, all of them by the hand of
science. First, by accepting withthe discovery of Copernicus heliocentrism that the human
being does not occupy the center ofthe universe. Second, with Darwin'
(01:46):
s discovery, since we are notsomething divine in the image and likeness of
God, but rather animals within theevolution of species. Third, with the
discovery of the psychoanalyst, according towhich it is not reason, but the
unconscious that governs our life. Ifthere is no contradiction, there is at
least an almost insoluble tension between scienceand faith symbolized during modernity, in cases
(02:10):
such as those of Giordano Bruno,who ended up burning alive in a bonfire
by Galileo' s inquisition, orthe most popular but least tragic. It
would be said that, if itwere possible to choose, while some would
prefer the truth of God, otherswould prefer the endless search for truth,
(02:37):
what place God occupied in Albrenstein's mind. He is one of the
greatest scientists in history, perhaps alongwith Newton and Darwin, and certainly the
most popular of the 20th century.According to one of his biographers Sipis not
his religious stage did not last long. Once again he adopted his own way
of thinking and at the age oftwelve he embraced the form of cosmic religious
(02:59):
disbelief that would last his whole life. He used the word God so often
that sometimes he deceived people from hischildhood. He possessed a deep religious feeling,
but when he speaks of God hedid not refer to what a religious
believer understands by this word. Ashe himself said in his mature years,
I believe in the God of spinopha, which is revealed in the harmony of
(03:22):
all that exists, not in aGod who deals with the destiny and actions
of men. What does the Godof thorny mean? God is the concept
with which he opens and to whichhe dedicates himself. The first of the
five parts of ethics proved according tothe geometric order of Baru Espinoza, who
(03:43):
lived between one thousand six hundred thirty- two and one thousand six hundred seventy
- seven. Perhaps the most consequentlyrationalist philosopher ever existed. In fact,
Espinoza is only going to the rootand reformulating from a naturalistic, homonist,
substantial and deterministic perspective. The approachof discards when it divided reality into three
types of substances, infinite substance God, extensive substance bodies and thinking substance self
(04:11):
or soul. Spinoza understands God asa natural nature, not natural nature,
a creative nature, not created.Thus God is identified with nature deus and
venatura. In the words of FernandoSavater in the Universe, everything is part
(04:34):
of a single and unique substance allthat exists is a single and unique substance
that can be called the god ornature of the infinite and inconceivable attributes of
that substance. We only know two, thought and extension. Each of these
(04:58):
attributes is celebrated in different ways bymeans of ideas and actions in the fields
of thought and extension, respectively,which are intercomunicated, but there is no
hierarchy adding is abater that many ofthe sufferings of man come from his propensity
to form inappropriate ideas under the empireof imagination, which whimsily mixes the ideas
of different bodies without respecting the patient, causal concatenaczio that guarantees the nitity of
(05:26):
understanding. One of those illusions ofimagination is freedom. The doctrine of Espinoza
by which it was in his dayis communed as heretic, slandered, and
branded as ungodly. It' sa form of deterministic pantheism and it matches
Einstein. It is a conception thatquestions the freedom and responsibility of human beings
(05:46):
in actions, because according to Espinoza, men believe themselves free because they ignore
the causes that determine their behaviors.However, knowing the necessity that governs these
innumerable chains of causes that determine lifeand history is a form of liberation.
Hence Espinoza speaks at the end ofthe ethics of intellectual love, to God,
(06:10):
that is, to the nature fromwhich we come, by which we
are as we are and which determinesus at all times. To know God,
as Vidal Peña has pointed out,is not to take refuge in the
lap of the prize for our sacrifices, nor to expect the future to bring
(06:33):
about the cancellation of all alignment,but to remain very conscious of itself and
of things, knowing that salvation isnot in another world or in a better
world, but in what is there. It is not strange that it is
penoza that they call it atheistic,because it identifies God with materialistic nature because
it denies the substantial distinction between souland body and immoral because it rejects religiously
(06:56):
inspired morality. Einstein thinks that theorigin of beliefs should not be sought,
both in reason and in feelings.Everything imagined and realized by man serves to
free him from feelings of need andto calm his sufferings. It must be
(07:17):
taken into account if we want tounderstand spiritual movements and their development. Distinguish
three types of religions, which isa fruit of evolution or progress. Although
human conquests are neither irreversible nor definitive, they can be mixed. First,
the religion of fear, which appearswith primitive man because of elementary emotions,
(07:39):
fear of hunger, wild animals,disease, death. Later, moral religion
appears. Einstein perceives the transit fromthe first to the second in the sacred
scriptures of the Jewish people. Whilethe religions of all civilized peoples, especially
those of the East, are essentiallymoral religions, the difference between the two
(08:01):
above, cosmic religion lacks this anthropomorphicconcept of God. The religious geniuses of
all times were admirable thanks to thisreligiosity, which knew neither dogmas nor any
God conceived in the manner of man. Among such geniuses, he mentions heretics
as democritus Francis of Assisi and Espinoza. Einstein suggests that cosmic religion is ethically
(08:24):
higher and more civilized than the previousreligion, first because it operates under the
hypothesis of causality and, secondly,because it does not act out of fear
of punishment and hope of a post- death prize. Paradoxically, cosmic religion,
(08:46):
far from opposing science, is,according to Einstein, one of its
main spurs. Cosmic religiosity is thehighest stimulus of scientific research, what a
deeper faith in the rationality of thebuilt universe and what a longing to understand
even though it was only a smallpart of the reason this world reveals.
They had to encourage Kepler, Newtonto be able to unravel the mechanism of
(09:09):
celestial mechanics. With the solitary workof so many years, it is customary
to believe that, as the sciencesprogress, the mystery and enchantment of the
world diminishes. But I find amore life- giving and fruitful logic in
deciphering nature and, at the sametime, in recognizing the mystery of creation.
(09:31):
According to Einstein, the mystery isthe most beautiful thing that is given
us to feel. It is thefundamental feeling, the cradle of art and
true science Who does not know it, who cannot be amazed or marvelled,
is dead in this line. Thephilosopher of science, Jesús Mosterín, argued
(09:54):
that science without mysticism runs the riskof staying in mere methodological gymnastics. Mystique
without science easily degenerates into self-deception and superstition. Only the juicy conjunction
of scientific knowledge with mystical feeling allowsus to aspire to achieve that state of
lucid exaltation and vital fullness in whichCommunion with the universe exists. Einstein did
(10:20):
not believe in a God who rewardsand punishes beings created by himself. Nor
do I want, nor can Ithink, that the individual survives his bodily
death, that weak souls feed thosethoughts out of fear or out of ridiculous
selfishness. The mystery of the eternityof life suffices for me, with the
honest aspiration to understand even the leastpart of reason that we can discern in
(10:43):
the work of nature. Therefore,let us not be boxed by labels that
drag us into dead ends. Youcan be atheist and, at the same
time, religious sea matter cute andspiritual. Einstein was deeply religious, but
(11:05):
religious without relying on any religious,religious institutionalization without a personal pantheistic and deterministic
God. Hence his famous phrase.God does not play dice, that is,
there is no chance. We usethis term where knowledge ends and ignorance
begins in the absence of discovering othersecret laws that weave and weav nature.
(11:31):
O God of thanks for listening tothe podcasts of very interesting
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.
Two Guys, Five Rings: Matt, Bowen & The Olympics
Two Guys (Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers). Five Rings (you know, from the Olympics logo). One essential podcast for the 2026 Milan-Cortina Winter Olympics. Bowen Yang (SNL, Wicked) and Matt Rogers (Palm Royale, No Good Deed) of Las Culturistas are back for a second season of Two Guys, Five Rings, a collaboration with NBC Sports and iHeartRadio. In this 15-episode event, Bowen and Matt discuss the top storylines, obsess over Italian culture, and find out what really goes on in the Olympic Village.