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May 20, 2025 79 mins
In 1972, tonight’s guest, David Walker, was 11 years old and just learning the ropes, when it came to hunting. One day, after school had let out for the summer, he and his friend, George, decided that they wanted to camp out on top of a big hill behind a barn on his friend’s property. After slogging all of their equipment to the top of the hill, they set up camp and settled in. A little after 1 AM, Dave began to hear bipedal footsteps walking around their camp. Not Remembering how his friend had told him that no one ever went up there, on top of the hill, Dave thought he must have been hearing George’s brother, Dave, walking around out there, trying to frighten him and George. Thinking that one good turn deserved another, the boys decided that they’d try to turn the tables on Dave and scare him. Dave gathered himself and when the moment was right, he jumped out of the tent, raised his hands above his head and yelled at the figure that was right outside the tent door. The problem was, it wasn’t Dave that was out there. It was something Dave describes as being a big, black, hairy, monster! That isn’t the only Sasquatch-related experience Dave’s going to share on tonight’s show. He has several more to share. Both his own and experiences others have had. We hope you’ll tune in and listen to him do that.

Dave has also written two books. Links to both of his books are below…

The Ohio Monster: My Personal Encounters with Bigfoot…

https://www.amazon.com/Ohio-Monster-Personal-Encounters-Bigfoot/dp/1546231684

Supernatural Cryptids: Return of the Nephilim…

https://www.amazon.com/Supernatural-Cryptids-Nephilim-David-Walker/dp/1965463606/ref=sr_1_1?crid=22DE9JHHD3W1P&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.DC2oURi4yJ03_ZaYwvYi0UBNFuRg_1QgYvwuwExEoKjGjHj071QN20LucGBJIEps.eZqEx_AzHVNF40ZPoU016u0FI45VLAdXRNVKINf9jag&dib_tag=se&keywords=supernatural+cryptids+return+of+the+nephilim&qid=1747767755&sprefix=supernatural+cryptids%2Caps%2C87&sr=8-1

To visit David’s website, please go to…

SuperNaturalCryptids.com

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, you there, thanks for tuning in. You're ready for
another episode of my big Foot Sighting. All right, then
let's do this.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Seen a bunch of rundown no horse towns where the
church at the backbone, laws and the bow and the
fasting melodies coove in.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
With the bomb man rose with the roofs run deep
beyond the nose of the busy streets, with the songs
of the South of su.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Then when I hear the promp porch picking down home
rhythm bringing out I Don't run from Banjung music.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Yeah, if you've had a Bigfoot sighting and would like
to be a guest, please go to my Bigfoot Sighting
dot com and let me.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Know my big foot sightings or why. I wrote two
books about them, and that first book being called The
Ohio Monster, that was written twenty eighteen and I got
that published, and then not long afterwards, I had a

(01:20):
book signing at the Expedition Bigfoot there in Northern Georgia
where David Bakar is the museum curator there and the owner,
and he was, you know, nice enough to have me write,
have me have a book signing on that which we
had several people come and I had. I had a

(01:41):
lot of young kids, which is that's the one part
I enjoyed about them. The young kids came and for
them to stand there in front of my table and
listen to me tell them big foot sighting was unbelievable,
the expressions on their faces. But now I'm starting to
talk about the big fist side, I do want to
get into them, and we'll start off with my first sighting,

(02:03):
which was there in nineteen seventy two. I was just
eleven years old, and to be honest with you, I
didn't I didn't know what a bigfoot or a stat
squash or anything like that was, you know, because we're
me and my friend just got out of school that
year for the summer, and we were going to camp out.
I'm I'm eleven years old and eleven twelve years old,

(02:26):
and so we got permission from our parents to do so.
And he said, man, I've been seeing some deer behind
the barn.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
If we went out there, you know, and and camp out,
we might get to see that one big buck come
up close. I said, oh, man, because I was just
getting into the hunting party about that time, you know,
eleven years old, And so we did his mom fitured
a bunch of stuff, and we took it out there
behind the barn. I gathered up all the wood. He

(02:54):
went ahead to set up a tent, and I got
herself a nice fire going there, and and UH turned
around around. We had our back to the fire. We
just talked, and you know how you stand on your
hands behind your back, and uh, all the sud started
smelling smoke, and we turned around and the fire started
going out beyond the circle. Man. We whipped our shirts

(03:14):
off and went ahead and UH started flapping the fire
and trying to put it out, and we eventually did.
Within about a half now, maybe forty minutes, smoke had
filled the valley. So we stood there and we're you know,
we're exhausted, me he said. We said, hey, it looks like,
you know, looks like we're not going to people see

(03:36):
no deer in the morning, man, And you know they're
not going to come out with all these smoke and everything.
And he said, well, you still want to camp out?
I said, well, got to like to, but we're gonna
do camp out in your backyard, and I'm thinking that's
gonna be a lot of fun. He said, no, man,
We came up on top of the hill.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
And I looked up and I go, well, we got
a carry a lot of stuff up there. He goes, dude,
we can do it, he said. You know, I put
the tin on my back and you carry the sack
of foods up. So anyhow, long story short, we were
making up that hell. Halfway up, I decided I wish
maybe we would have just camped out in the backyard
because I was sweating with the bay and it was hard.

(04:13):
It was different. This hill was about four or five
hundred feet eye. It's almost like a mountain, you might
as well say. So anyhow, we get up on top
like about a half in our break. By that time,
it's around seven o'clock. I got to get the wood again,
he goes, and stretched up the tents. This time I poured.
I took the time to pour water around the fire
so that I wouldn't get away from us. So we

(04:34):
had everything just just about perfect. We you know, ate
our Hamburgs, hot dog, marshmallowsmores, you know like that. And
about eleven o'clock we decided to turn into the tent.
And as we did so, while we started telling stories
and jokes. You know how young kids will do. It's like,
right around one o'clock we decided, okay, it's time for

(04:56):
us to you know, get a get a little shut
eye in. So I remember looking at my watch for
whatever reason, I looked at my watch as I laid
my head down. It's about ten after one. Well about
a few minutes afterwards, started hearing sticks break around close
to the tent, so I kind of rose my head up,
looked around there, and I heard a couple more sticks snap.

(05:19):
I thought the first thing encourage me with. That's just
some barmuck, you know, raccoon, U, pousum whatever, you know,
trying to get the leftover food. So I just lave
my head back down. All of a sudden, I heard
another couple more snaps, and these sounded like, if I
didn't know any better, sound like a person walking around there.
But my friend had told me that we'll call him George.

(05:40):
George just told me that no one comes up here, dude,
because we'll be all alone, I can guarantee you. So
with that thought in mind, I looked at him. I go,
would you still be all alone? He goes, oh, I
thought me, will no one's ever up here? Man? And
so I listened. I said, what do you call that?
I heard another stick snap. It just sound like some

(06:01):
big individuals standing outside of our tent and had just
snapped a twig on purpose, almost, And then we heard
it heavy breathing, and we look at each other and
we are totally freaking out because that didn't sound like anything.

(06:22):
To be honest, it didn't sound like anything human, you know.
But I like, again, I didn't know. I didn't need
anything about monsters other more or so on TV. So anyhow,
we're just looking at each other and with the inquisitive eyes,
and I pretty soon boom the tent cave in on
his side, my friend's side, well on George again. Hit

(06:43):
George right on top of the head. He goes, oh, man, hurt.
And I put my head down on the other side. Now,
the tent is an army tent. It's some dark you
can't see through the dark green, you know, have the
dark green army with stuff. Well, anyhow, he can't see
that during the day. And so some way, somehow, as
I put my head down, screwed over against the tent

(07:06):
on the wall side there, not hitting the tent, but
just over toward that that little corner. Put my hands
over my head and boom there were It could have
been three seconds after it hit him. It hits me
in the head, and I'm like, I'm thinking to myself,
how did that thing know where my head was at?
But as it hit me and had I go hour
And so I called out my friend's brothers Now, I

(07:29):
said Dave, which was Dave? I said, oh, Davi was
not hurt man, no laughter, nothing, and I looked over him.
He goes, it has to be him. He said, I'll
tell you what you did? You know how a couple boys,
you know what? The cor three just rowd scared. I goes,
okay and folly thinking it was him on he was
him out there trying to scare it because he was

(07:50):
the only one that knew we was camping out. So
he went two three. I unzipped the tent and I
rolled out, jumped up in there, both my hands and
I went araw, just like I thought it was a
monster would sound. The only problem was when I looked
across and see my friend's brother, it wasn't him. All

(08:12):
I could see was black hair, and I like rose
up and I looked at this thing, and I mean
I had to cock my helms as far as it
would go, and they're about seven to eight feet upwards
in the air. Was this the only thing I can
describe with big black, hairy monster. And he's standing there

(08:32):
looking at me and describing him like I just said,
I'm guessing, you know, approximation. He was about steving to
eight feet and he had a very big head. But
the head was like resting on top of his shoulder,
you know. It wasn't like like he didn't have no
neck or something. I don't know. And he had big,

(08:54):
long arms. He was about four foot wide across the
chest and the hands was right aroun close to the knees,
easy to the knees. It just didn't look like this
thing was anything close to being something human. But I
at the same time, I didn't know what I was
it was other than the fact my mind set it
was a monster, That's all I knew. And so he

(09:18):
cocked his head when I jumped up and put up
my hands, cocked his head, and I'm like, well, he's
just just like he was saying, w t F Are
you trying to scare me?

Speaker 5 (09:30):
Boy?

Speaker 1 (09:32):
And I'm like, oh, and I you know, I took
a couple of tests back because I knew this monster,
whatever it was, would swing at me. He could bury
me right where I stood easy. I took a couple
of tests back to say, sorry, mister monster. You know,
I didn't mean to didn't mean to try to scare

(09:53):
you there, but I was about ready to peak pete
pee my pants. I really was, because I was so scared.
And then he took off running, but he didn't run
away from me. He ran right past me, and he
ran right beside the fire that we had. With the
fire at that time were burning embers, so you know,

(10:15):
it was just just not to wear it. Put out
just a little bit of a globe maybe, you know,
a couple couple of feet, and that's it. But when
he ran past them blowing embers, I could see the
light of the embers on this on this leg or foot,
right below the knee, you know, as you lifted it up,
and I could see muscles, calf muscles and hair there.

(10:37):
And not one time did it ever occurred to me
that there was some neighbor up there trying to scace,
you know, scare a couple of boys at one thirty
in the morning. That's highly unlikely anyhow in my opinion.
And besides that, like I said, number no one had
a big foot suit back in them days, and if
they did, it not anywhere near Robbers that which would

(11:00):
Newcomers Town, Ohio. That's where this sighting occurred, at about
about three miles three miles south of Newcomers Town there. Anyhow,
So my friend who didn't roll out of the tent
with me, he stayed in the tent like a chicken.
He looked at you go, oh my god, Dave, as
he were watching them runway goes that Bigfoot And I

(11:22):
looked back at him and I said, Bigfoot. He goes, yeah, man,
he done round here and see me a flash light.
I caught the flassa let's get out of here, exclicitive
out of here. Before that thing, he decided to turn
around and come back and finish his job of you know,
hitting it. So whatever he was going to do, so

(11:44):
camping was all worth for the night. We tuk off
run down the hill. Bigfoot went to the left, and
we were we were we were booking. But like I said,
the hill was covered in briars and thorn trees, and
it was it wasn't an easy climb, and it wasn't
any easier running back down that hill too, because we
still got cut up. And he knew where the fence
was by the barnes was he got to the fence,

(12:06):
he jumped. Well, the part that I was running down
through still had some briers and a couple of trees there.
I didn't see the fence. To make a long story short,
I mean, yeah, I had a flashlight. I could see
the yard, and then my flashlight bouncing up and down.
Of course, because we're running, I hit that fence going
forth forth, So I flipped over, got my shoe caughton

(12:26):
the fence. Uh, well boot whatever you want to call
the kind of happen between when of them work shoe
type things, you know, it came up over the ankles.
I called him work boot whatever. I got that cotton
the fence and I'm trying to pull my foot out
and I'm having a hard time finally baking it. Bigfoot
could be right there behind me. It gave me the

(12:48):
you know, the inspiration to pull my foot. I finally
pulled it out of the boot that I was trying
to woggle. My sock stayed in the boot, My barefoot
come out. I ran back to the house my barey feet.
His sister let us say and said, oh you with
a boy scared of the dark, and she just you know,
we said no, no, no, no, no, we saw big foot. And
she said, oh my gosh, you gotta take some from

(13:10):
that wind up here. Dad told me, why did you
take them out up here with you? No, and he said, man,
he said, he called her by there and he said,
you know, we've seen big foot. And then it hit
me in the head and it hit Dave in the
head too too. Oh my god, she's await the dad
here is this man. He's gonna let his you know,
walter off at you guys. Yeah. Well, in the morning,

(13:32):
his dad comes to the table for breakfast we always
get in the morning. Mama would have a big bowl
of hot chocolate, you know, so waiting for that's what
we all started. Then we would have toast and sometimes
some eggs. But I remember, I remember the toes, not chocolate.
And anyhow, he's just down. His dad's down on the
table and he looked at George and he said, oh,

(13:55):
I hear you boys had a running with something last night.
I goes, yeah, it was something all right, I said,
I guess it was bigfoot. He goes, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. We seen him about six months ago out
there in the barn. And I looked at my friend.
I goes, wait a minute, you do that thing was
out here and you still wanted the camp out. Your dude,

(14:17):
that was six months ago. He said, I thought that
thing was long gone, But now I said, it look
like it was long gone, doesn't it. He said, well,
you know, I didn't know. So anyhow, he described the incident,
you know, to us, and he said, I took my
gun out with me and I was going to I
was going to shoot whatever it was. I thought when
of the neighborhood trying to steal one of our cabs.

(14:37):
And he said, we walked in the barn, we took
three or four steps and boom out this thing came
running out of a stall and ran out the back
of the barn door. And he said, I put my
gun up, and he said, I thought I could do.
That thing was gone. He said it was fast anyhow,
So he said, well, after you got to get done,
he will go up on the hill and gather get
your things. And I want to look around for some

(14:59):
big Foot tracks. It said, okay, So we felt it
was okay as long as we went up with somebody,
you know, so I didn't feel too bad about that.
We got on top of the hill and right there
by the tent, he said, little right there, one right there,
and most of the ground up there was barren. But
you know, it was just like any other old field.
On top of the hill. There was clods of grass,

(15:21):
you know, he saw grass whatever here or there. There
were a few trees, but not big trees, just more
or less like overgrown. Well they weren't any more than
four or five inches wide. You know, it's like nothing
that an animal could jump into and jump anywhere else.

(15:41):
I mean, because these weren't very big trees that are
out there, and they were just scattered too. But anyhow
it started today said let's follow the footprints, see where
they got. Well, these footprints were fifteen and a half
inches long i'd say six seven inches wide. But the
funny part about these prints of the verse is your
five toe tracks that they show a lot on Bigfoot.

(16:05):
They had three three prints, three toes in the front
part there, which that's what the five toes are. But
one prince says, they were just like an inch or
two past where your the main ball, your foot is
right there, and it was really weird. But he said, yep,
same track was all down by the bar, and he goes,
has to be the same credit. Well, that makes sense

(16:27):
as far as that part goes. So we followed. He
had me lead and I followed each other about seven
or eight foot apart. Because this thing was running versus
a normal stride, which is our stride right around three
three and a half, I guess this one was a
lot longer and about two inches into the ground, which

(16:49):
our track barred. He made an impression on the work
on the ground versus this thing was about well not
maybe not two inches, but at least an inch and
a half impression into the ground. And so he's said, well,
I look like about seven or eight hundred pound creature
or whatever it is. And I looked at him. I'm
starting to get scared the whole trick again, but so

(17:10):
I'm following it. He's right behind me, and we get
to the last track and I counted about twelve of them,
and i'd say about forty fifty yards from the tent,
and whether it should have been at least ten or
fifteen more easy. There was nothing, and I stopped and

(17:30):
I see it. I'm looking ahead, I'm scanning the ground
and said, I don't see no more tracks. What do
you mean dig well trail of seven hundred pounds beast
and you can't find no more track? To let me?
Let me say, he said. He walked ahead. He starts
looking around. He's looking around, and he goes, I don't know.

(17:50):
He went back to the last track that I was
standing by. He kneled that on his knee, looked at
it and he said, rump. He said some a couple
of things that is I've never never left my mind.
He said, well, boys, just said, I've been on these
partners in a thousand it's a grasshopper, but I've never
seen nothing like this. But but one thing I do know,

(18:13):
and I kind of looked at him. He said that
track don't lie. And then he said that they all
tell story. And so for the next forty to fifty
years after this particular sting, I kept on thinking about
this man's words because I want to know. I already
know the creature is real. At that point, I'm not saying, oh,

(18:34):
you know, it's big for me to real was I
just somebody does I've never never even questioned that, But
in my mind, I'm thinking, what are these things? What
are these creatures? Where do they come from? And why
are they here? And how come none of my relatives
have ever told me anything about him? A real monster
out there. And because the other one I hadn't seen before.

(18:55):
It was on TV. And that was on the Hollywood
show The Black Lagoon where they and they had two
girls skinny dipping and this creature standing here on edge,
you know, Picky bind trees look watching the girls skinny.
That was the only one I had ever seen before.
And I don't know if you call it a big foot,
and it kind of resembled one, you know anyhow. H

(19:17):
So that was, uh, that's basically my first We got
our stuff. He said, get your things, boys, and get
on down the hill. He's this place to give me
the creep. Well it wasn't young, he wasn't the only
one giving me the creeps again too. We got our stuff,
went down. My dad came and picked me up, and
I told my dad about you know, I wanted to
hear what he was saying. Well him, I was thinking

(19:37):
he would say, you know, I saw one or two
of them before, you know, a long time, you know,
something like that. My dad said, we've seen what I said.
It's big foot. They called bigfoot, Dad. It goes big
tall here couture. Man said it's He said, how tall was?
I said about seven or eight feet man? And I said,
but I had left a round four foot across the shoulders.

(19:58):
And he just ran and raving and saying it. All
I was wanting was attention. And there ain't nothing like
got out there in the woods. And and if I
he ever hears me say that again, he'll whip my bottom.
I can get my drift, they'll take me to the woodshed.
If you want a tender boys, I'll give you some attention.

(20:19):
I was dead. I saw what I saw. I'm not
making this up. He would never believe me, never believe me. So,
and he said, whatever you do, don't tell that the
end of year them kids of school either or a
laugh at you. Well I knew some of my friends
of school, and they never laughed at before about anything. Well,
you know, I mean, you know, we had to laugh.

(20:41):
But and so I told him what I saw out there.
And now, yeah, he dad was right, they started laughing,
Oh Walkers saw big monster Bigfoot and just stout laughing. Well,
that was the last time I spoke about it, because
I knew if I opened my mouth up again, I
would just be fakeful, ridicule. So I never told another
thing or sowards what's the exception to my mom, And

(21:03):
of course Dad already did. He was going to tell
her anyhow, and she didn't believe me. She said, all
you want David's attention, and I you know, we tried
to do the best we can for you and everything
like this, and uh, okay, well all right, I just
wouldn't talk about Never. Well, the end of that year,
I started my deer hunting. You know, I went out

(21:24):
to my brother's place. He had just bought a piece
of property eighty acres in Jane Eaton, which was about
fifteen hours from where I had just sighting at my
Newcomers town sighting at. So we're gonna come out there,
and he was supposed to go with me that first day. Well,
he was known real bad. I mean, we had a
snow to him that night and he said, well, I'm

(21:46):
not going to go out. He said, Dave, if you
want to go out and want it around back here
beyond the cornfield, or maybe across the road up into
them pine trees. He said, you might see something, you know,
who knows, he said, but I'm not going out, so
I'm not going to go with you, okay. And so
it was just the snowstorms coming to an end. It
just just kind of light snow for as that time.

(22:08):
I got my gun. I mean, we're talking sixteen degrees
outside and the winds. You know, Bo'm pretty good, and
uh so I'm going out there. And I went across
the road. I'm looking around, looking around. I could run
across these deer tracks, and I followed them a little bit.
Pretty soon I saw blood. I'm like, huh, I looked

(22:30):
down there. I saw some blood and tracks, and I'm
following on the way. Maybe all all these blood, maybe
the hunter shot at one, you know, wounded it, and
maybe it went off and died up here, and I
might be able to get it. I was trying to
trying to cheat already, but you know, hey, I want
to put my tag on something. Get the meet and
mean the freezer. They didn't matter to me how it was,

(22:52):
but anyhow we were. I went through the pine trees
there and found where that deer had expired. The only
problem with the hunter he did claim his catch, so
all I see there was the after math of that
and a lot of blood. So we went out. I said, well,
I'm going to go back, you know, across the road
and back in that corner. So I went back and

(23:15):
across the road in the corner of My brother said,
he seems from deer coming home from work right there
in the corner of the corner field maybe about you know,
fifty yards hundred yard from the road right there. And uh,
I'm looking around. Pretty soon I see something about one
hundred yards ahead of me, something very big truck on me. Dude,
if that's if that's a deer track, now that's a

(23:37):
huge one. So I go. I'm starting almost bun towards
them track. You know, I'm jogging with my gun in
my hand. I get to the tracks, look down and
there's these great, big human life tracks and guess what,
they had three toes in the front of them. But
something gave me the impression that wasn't the same creature.

(24:00):
But I don't know, I just didn't think it was
because it probably was so far from the other one,
but it just blew my mind. Well, here's big footprints
too in the snow, and there was about ten inches
of snow on the ground, just to give you some
type of a scale to go by. And the tracks
were much larger than the ones I seen. But then again,

(24:25):
once you go through the snow to the bottom, they
probably were about the same size. The other one about
fifteen sixteen inches, to be honest with you. So I'm like, well,
I don't see no deer and the snow stuff, I
think I'm just gonna fall these big foot tracks and
see where the lead. And I got a gun in
my hand, so I'm not afraid at that particular time,

(24:48):
I wasn't afraid. So here because of the story, I
followed the track down to the bottom and back up
over the top of the hill ridge and then out
across the ridge maybe fifty the yard, you know. I
saw this, I like a little cave like then you,
about three four feet high and round, and it went
into the side of the earth there, and uh, I

(25:11):
saw the Prince disappear into that cave, and I'm like,
that hole doesn't look big enough to really to even
hold a sasquad to be honest with you, why would
you use fifteen inch track to go into a hole?
It's doll like about three by three feet. I'm shaking
my head and it's just you know, nothing's coming to me.

(25:32):
But as I'm standing there, all of a sudden, this
foreboding fear came over me, and I'm like, uh, what
happens to? That thing is in there and it's getting
ready to run out at me. Would I be able
to stand here with my shot got a naturally take
a good aim at that thing and fire it off
and kill it? Or what happened to knocks the gun

(25:56):
out of my hand and I ended up dead, and
all said, like I said, I said, forget it. I
took off. I took off. I took off I had.
I kept my gun in my hand, but I'm running
full board. So you know how scared I am if
I'm running up with a shot guy in my hand
away from this hole. I just felt like this thing's
gonna come out at any minute, And maybe it did, and

(26:17):
I didn't know it because, like I said, I'm I'm
not gonna stop and turn around and look back. I'm gone.
I'm out of here. So I got back to my
brother's house and he must to see me coming. And
he opened the door. He goes, hey, did you get him?
Me start to put his gloves. So I'm like, he's
gonna come out, you know, help me drag the deer.
I goes, no, I didn't get anything. You know, why
in the world are you running back to the house?

(26:38):
For I said, Boba, so I saw bigfoot tracks up there.
He said, you stop what he said? You mean to
tell me, he said, I know about that sighting earlier
in the year. He said, I heard about what your
dad said. And uh he said, Uh, I don't believe
a word, and I'm here to tell you what. There

(27:00):
ain't no big foot David on my property. You understand that.
I think you're just you know, I think your hallucine
is what I think. I said, Oh, you think I'm
hal I'll tell you what. Since you put your gloves on,
you got your shoes on, your boot's on, why don't
you come follow me. I'll show you exactly where them

(27:21):
prints are at. He goes, no, I ain't got nothing.
I ain't got no time to waste going on a
wild goose chase. Forget that. He goes, I'm just gonna
call and tell your dad that your team bigfoot up
here on my property too, and we'll we'll go from that.
I said, no, no, no, no, don't go. Don't call him, bro,
don't call him bro. He called my dad. My dad said, boy,

(27:41):
I'm about to come up here and I'm about to
use a stick on you. We gotta tell you about
that big foot. Stop ah, I said, Dad, Dad, please,
if you just come up here, I'll even take you
and show you where they're at. Nope, no, no, number, Nope,
I ain't got time. But still stealthy foolishness, he said,
we ain't gonna do that. Uh. He did come and
get me, and we never talked all the way back

(28:03):
to the house. I mean, you could tell he was
peeled at me. He didn't, you know, hit me or
you debelled on me, nothing like that, you know, in
which I had gotten used that a few times, but
he didn't. So anyhow, that was not exciting, but it
was something that there had been something there, of course,
to make those tracks. Like I said, there was a

(28:24):
snowstorm that night, and therefore the tracks were I just
started getting snow in them. But you could tell that
something had passed through there. I mean, I'm not a
professional tracker, but I'm guessing at least put down an
hour or two of the time that I you know,
I found him that they had passed there about an
hour or two. Anyhow, that was for that so I

(28:49):
called that when on my book, I called that chapter
the Obomable Snowman, very very aptly put, I think. And
then I had some other chapters about some house and grouse.
I've been barricaded in my own house before by house
and grouse. Two or three bigfoot were calling for each
other and scared of living daylight side of me I

(29:10):
was living. I decided a newcomer town in a in
a yellow house out past the substation and the path
the substation there there was a railroad track and it's
rumored to have been the same track that they put
the Abraham Lincoln went from Washington, d c. Over to
his home state in Illinois, uh, to be buried after

(29:32):
his particular assassination. So the track was and the and
the tunnel out there about two miles from the house.
Very historic area, very historic. These bigfoot creatures, uh, they
were very historic too. And then again that story is
in my first book called the Ohio Monster. Uh. There's

(29:54):
even a chapter in there called Bigfoot came to the
football game, and people would laugh and say, man, just
got really hallucinating. But it's it's not an hallucination because
half the crowd is the football game heard and seeing
something and they're all hollering and looking down toward the river,
and then they'll have to stand, including a lot of
the older people, got out of the stand and started

(30:16):
running down towards the river looking for Bigfoot. I didn't
go because I had already seen it before and I
didn't want to go and see this thing again because
it's scared they will is out in me my first time.
So I didn't go. But anyhow, going on to my
second book, like I said, for forty or fifty years,
I am asked myself the question, and I heard other

(30:40):
people tell stories that they had had encounters a lot
of them in the Newcomerstown area. And that's the Tuscraws County,
Ohio during the county and then Mustingham County all on Ohio,
and they called that the Sasquash Triangle. So famous man

(31:00):
that got into looking for the bigfoot and footprint in
that area, a man called don keating dog, my dog,
my really good friend of mine. And he started the
Bigfoot conference and newcomers down and uh, he's got He
was very very big in that uh. And I went

(31:20):
to a couple of his conferences, but they uh, he
kind of quit having them after a while. It said,
because a lot of people, I think in the Bigfoot world,
or what you call cutthroats, stay those stab you in
the back just in order to make himselves look better
than you, or to call your liar, or to try
to steal your evidence. All of that stuff happens. But

(31:42):
that's that's basically just what humans do with each other
when they're trying to one one's trying to get ahead
of the other one seemed they want to do that.
Me I do, and I just I want to share.
I want to share my stories and evidant with other people.
And that's the that's why I went on my second
book where it's called My second book is called sep
Financial Cryptids, Return of the Nephilm. And you're probably thinking

(32:05):
that's a very interesting and very interesting title for a book.
I get a lot of looks, you know, and that
one says, oh you do, I'm trying to try to
play big books in the Bible and if they're laugh
you know, know the word bigfoot definitely not in the Bible,
nor a sasquash uh or anything like that. But there
are some creatures in that Bible that you know might

(32:28):
be kind of questionable as far as regular look and
human beings. And so I asked, I asked God, I'd
like to write a book about these creatures. I know
that they're somehow related to the Bible. Everything is, But
I said, God, how do I start this thing? You know,
I'm didn't hear no response from him, to be honest

(32:49):
with you, for a few years, and Fannie, I was
in I was praying. One day, I says, you know,
I'd really like to write that book. But what am
I going to spart? And he says, uh, I'll tell
you the answers, but you have to start writing it first.
Well how do I started? I didn't stand up? So
I was just one day I thought, you know what

(33:11):
I really want to find out and if he helped me,
I'll write a book. And that's what this book was,
Supernatural Cryptic Return of the Nephelm. And he and I
like both the other place I need to start where
the giant giant beans are. And as I started there,
all of a sudden I started getting insight. After insight,
I went from the Bible to the to the Book

(33:32):
of Enoch. The Book of Enoch built a bunch of
creatures called the Watchers. And these are some well, I
guess you could call them some following angels or whatever.
But there's there's a group of beings, whether you want
to refer to him as the Watchers or as they're

(33:53):
also called the star people. They're referred to as the Adanoki,
and if I'm pronouncing that right, and they're also referred
to of the Titans. They were whom the Grecian and
the Romans they looked to them as gods. You know.
They talk about Mount Olympus, Well, Mount Olympus is none

(34:13):
other than Mount Herman. And the Bible same exact area
where these four own beings came from, and and and
Genesis chapters they talked about the sons of God, and uh,
the only sons that God ever had were the angels
that were basically with him from the very beginning. He

(34:36):
created them, of course, and we don't know when God
was had a beginning, but nevertheless, they were His creation,
and they are, into a technical sense, his sons. So
given that there's only five places in the Bible that
talks about the these sons of God, and in every
place they refer to our the other places clearly refer

(35:01):
to them being angels. And if it's true at one
or two or three places in the Bible, it's probably
true for the rest of the references too. And obviously
there is something different than mankind, because the sons of
men are men, but the sons of God who placed

(35:23):
these beings in a higher category. But anyhow, most of
the you know, most people that time period didn't have
no question about whether or not these were angels or not.
Even the step Tuoogen in that particular place, Genesis chapter
six and verses one to four, it talks about that

(35:45):
the angels of God were on the earth at that time,
and they went into the daughters of men, they bore
children to them. The same became the Nephilm. So in essence,
that's the number other is offspring accordingly as we interpret that.
Of course, listen, you have to understand, when I'm talking

(36:08):
about the Bible, nothing is one hundred percent set in stone.
The things that you're hearing on here are my interpretation.
I don't want anybody's saying, yeah, man, man, he said
this one. He said that it's controversial, but I would
say that seventy to eighty percent of theologians do believe it.

(36:32):
A particular point that that term does refer to angels,
as it does in the Book of Job, and there's
one in Daniel too. But anyhow, just for the sake
of argument, we'll refer to them as the angels. And
that's kind of how I got into my second book.
I started looking at that, and I looked into the

(36:52):
Book of Enoch. He talks about about these sons of God,
these angels, well, he referred to them as following angels,
of course, and said that they, uh, they came down
and then they said almost the same thing as Jesus
sixth where they made it with the beautiful daughters of
Adam and they you know, after and whatever. And I

(37:15):
believe myself again, this is what I believe that these
net them They were very they were just like their
fathers with the following nanuge. They were very evil and
morrow uh they were. They committed a lot of murder.
They were cannibalistic. They would eat other they would eat
regular men.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
They taught them, you know, list of practices, taught them astronomy, astrology,
all this kind of stuff to you know, study the
stars or whatever. And also uh, the acts of war,
how to make weapons of war and kill each other.
And I believe that particular angels name is called Azel,
if I'm pronouncing that right, And uh so he was.

(37:53):
I think he was almost worse than the Devil himself.
But that again, I'm just telling you things that are
of my opinion. But anyhow, that's where I take my
research at in the in the in the in the
first book, the first part of the SuperNature Crypto Pattern
of Netolin. There's four parts this to this book, and

(38:14):
my research is in part one that I told you about.
How I take it from there. I also go with
my research away from the Bible cad bit into the
Epic of Gilgamesh, the Epic of bey Wolf, and I
tell how these guys, these these uh men if you
want to call the men, they also encountered uh beast

(38:38):
and and monsters and talks about their their warrior efforts
and fighting these beasts and monsters and and the one
thing about the epic of Gilgamesh that I want to
key in on on your podcast here is that he
was he could do. It was supposed to be a
product of the God because they thought that he was
just controlling mankind and kind of you know, know, being

(39:01):
very mean to the children of men, and he needed
to be subdued a little bit so that the creation
was this man called they called Inca do Now Inkado
was he was. He was very big and large himself,
the Gilgamage character. There are statues of him to his

(39:24):
that were made. There were somewhere in the neighborhood of
seventeen to eighteen foot and there's supposed to be lifelike statue.
Well whether or not that true, we don't really know
for sure. However, the statue appeared to him holding a
regular side line in his left hand, like you or
I would be holding a kitty cat. He holding it

(39:46):
to probably by stick one hundred pound line, you know,
with a little effort to no effort, just to hold well,
like we put a kitty cat stand in there. That's
a good analogy. Anyhow, Inkad was supposed to be somewhere
in the neighborhood of twelve to fifteen feet himself, so
he he was he was close to being able to
take on Gilga Mash. Well, he did take him on

(40:09):
the story and these fragment fragment player's supposed to be
twelve of them all together called the Gilga Mash. They
put him together and they tell the story and the
story about Gilga Mash and his friend Inkadu. They become
very good friends. But when he started off, Inkadu tries
to fight Gyoga Mash and in a fight, and and

(40:30):
this fight lasted a pretty good long time. Finally, this
the epic says that Yoga Match was able to defeat Inkado.
But as he I actually he did, he reached down,
got a hold of his hand or arm and pulled
him back up and shook his hand. And Inkudo was
the only one that ever gave him a run for
his money. And so they started talking about fourth and

(40:53):
he said, hey, you know, how do he like to
have you with my friend? And I could really use
you in some of my some of my adventures and
my kingdom. And he goes, well, well you got in mind.
So that they become they become really good friend, really
good POWs, and so they went on, according to the
story of the epic, a different question, and they thought
beasts and gods and monsters or whatever, and it tell

(41:17):
us about their exploits and so like, Remember, now inkuld
Do was a creation of the gods? Was he a
creation of those following angels? If those gods were the
following angels were was this thin could do character almost
something that twelve feet to fourteen fifteen foot tall? Harry?

(41:41):
Is he something that could he be wreckoned to something
like a bigfoot? I don't know. That's just the question
that you know, people have to answer for themselves. Could it,
because sure it could be is a possibility. It also
could be a possibility that a bigfoot could be stun
type of a cursed Netphilin cursed giant, because some of

(42:02):
them were. I imagine we're very hairy too. Or it
could be one of the maybe the Netfilums offspring the
Netlins kids. Now, when you talk about a hybrid, that's
the in cars today, hybrids are a mixture you know,
of half engine out gas and battery or whatever. They're

(42:26):
a combination. And that's exactly what I believe the sasquash
or I think they're a combination myself. Again, this is
my opinion of part of supernatural seed in part and
part woman human human female woman. Of course, you say, well,
that's a real wild speculation. I thought you said that

(42:47):
something like that would be a fault, would be a Netlin, right,
I did. I didn't say that. But there's there's a
study by Melba catch them. I don't know if you've
heard of that one or not. It's a pretty well
own study was conducted back in twenty twelve that she
took run these She got these control stamples and apparently

(43:09):
they were from Bonifide, real bigfoot sightings. And that's that's
basically all anybody can really asked certain and figure out.
But she said she went ahead and ran the samples
of these hairs and could not find anything to match them.
But she went ahead and ran the biochemical analysis on

(43:30):
them then, and according to her study, she claimed that
part of half of that hair stamples was human. The
other half, she said, came from what she called it
unknown horminoid or humanoid or however you pronounced it. I'm

(43:50):
sure you've probably heard of something like a humanoid, you know.
That's what people for a long time thought that bigfoot
was was some type of a relic humanoid. Well, that's
what her analysis came to, was that fifteen thousand years
ago a real humanoid that made it with the female
human and created a hybrid species, which we referred to

(44:13):
she said as the Bigfoot, or the Indians, the North
American Indians as tasquatch staffquash simply means a big hairy man.
Well again that's the that was her analysis, and of
course it was it was very the scientific community was
very very skeptical of that, and they said, how could

(44:36):
she can't She couldn't actually verify her study was there
a control sample? And since there was no control sample,
it makes this study completely invalid because she didn't have
nothing to compare this hair with. Well, really, she what
would she compare when there's when there is nothing out there?
She would have to compare it with another live bigfoot,

(44:58):
which there is, you know, as far as the one
that actually died, and you could go out and oh, yeah,
they're here one and then you know that would be
the anywhere that they would know, so that that is inconclusive,
and so you know, they the scientific community just pushed
that to decide. Well, my friend my my, well, I

(45:21):
call my friend. We're not friend friend, but uh me
and this guy getting ready to mention to you. Well
known in the big Foot, the big Foot work, well
known in the Biblical area of studying the Nephilim A
Marzoulila Marzouli believes the same exact way. And I never

(45:42):
talked with the man. I don't even know how to
get a hold of. I tried to go over before.
I can't get a hold of him. He's very up there,
probably one of the best Biblical researcher or maybe maybe
biblical big rester, bigical archaeologist out there. He goes to
South and America wherever somebody's found these elongated skulls or

(46:05):
something that looks, you know, like we would think and
nothing them would look uh you know, just not human.
And he goes to those places and does conductors down
personal research and talked to doctors, archaeologists, stops in the museums.
Uh Peru Peru's South America is one of his places.

(46:28):
He's been two or three different times too. But anyhow,
he he says, there, I believe there's some type of
connection between the Bigfoot today and the Nephodum giants and
I believe that. And I have other books that I
got that I bought off the internet, and there's a
couple of authors off of there, like the guy left

(46:51):
in Forshears. I think it's Jason. He had Jason Bshars
and his book he talks about giants and his book
and he said the same as doct Calm, and he said,
I believe that there's some type of the connection between
the bigfoot being the Yetti and the Himalayas and the

(47:12):
sass squashed you know, the Washington, British Columbia here, I think,
he said, I think there's some kind of connection with
with the Nephelim giants there. He said, they look the same, uh,
with the exception of these bigfoot are all covered in
hair where maybe the other ones were hairy but maybe
you know less the mouth of hair, etc. Etc. But

(47:33):
he said there's some type of connection. I just can't
put my finger on it. Well, that's that's kind of
where I take my research with and I try to
have people connect the dots. And I asked the questions,
what do you think do you think it could be?
And I let people answer for themselves. So now going
in for my research, I'm going to go to my
my author, my co author, Richard mccannley. He has he

(47:55):
has the second part, Richard as a he's researched these
bigfoot things for close to fifty years and he's even
lost a marriage because he was so obsessed with finding
evidence about you know, he lost his first marriage and
ended in a divorced He didn't go very well. He's

(48:18):
a military man. He's been in the military, so he's rich.
It's kind of rough around the edges, if you know
what I mean, you know how military people are. But
one thing about it, he does have a pure heart
and he does know his subject matter very well, very well,
maybe a little bit too well to be honest with you.

(48:39):
And he can find these things wherever the rest seem
like they or they find him. I don't know which
it is, but he he's had a lot of a
lot of actual sightings. He's told me his story. He
spent five years alone in a place called the Wayne
National Forest in Ohio. And he he's a drummer. He's

(49:02):
he's he bought him a cabin and right right right
inside the Wayne National Forest. He didn't know nothing about
the way and other than the fact that at the
place where campers campers people go to and and that
he can, you know, he can spend some time alone
there and actually work on his music. He Uh, he's
a very well known drummer, very well known drummer. They

(49:23):
played for some rock band back in the day.

Speaker 5 (49:26):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
And Richard has said he's seen all kinds of celebrities.
He said, I've seen so many celebrities, he said. I
he said, just like you and I you walking down
the street and seeing regular people. He said, I saw me,
said I say, hey, how's are going? You know whatever
he said, and then went right on my way.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
You know, he's he's he's been there and done that
in the music world. But anyhow that when he retired
from uh you know, the military and stuff and from
civilian life, he he wanted to pick up his music again,
but he want some peace and quiet because we're he
lived after there was a lot of noise. And so

(50:01):
they bought him a cabin out there. And say his
wife was on the board and she got permission for
him to stay out there in the wintertime. Well, she
would go out there, you know occasionally. He wasn't completely alone,
but she got occasionally on maybe see him about once
a month or once every two months, you know, something
like that. But long story short, he was out there alone,
and the stories he tells about that experience would make

(50:26):
the hair on the back of your necks, Dan straight up.
I mean I was listening to him tell you stories
and two the average person they would just say they
were laughing, say all bike, what what you know? That's
a completely, completely big fat lie. There's no way that happened.
They wouldn't bleed them. But on the other hand, he

(50:48):
got some documentation of these so called creatures and dog
Man and some things that he the creatures that he
didn't know what to call. But he'd shot picturesy got pictures. Uh.
He also had took a few videos and he actually,

(51:09):
at one particular time took a well I'll tell the
experience was he was in his cabin and heard a
lot of howl. Well he knew that the dog Man
or Holland, but he said, this was like second and
third year I've been out there, and I didn't know
while whatever he going carried on this night, he says,
something has to be going on. So he had just

(51:30):
got one of his got a cam corder, neither the
Sonny high cams, and they can't be photoshops, so there's
no way you can fake the picture. Anyhow, he took
that after on his deck and he thought, maybe if
I'm lucky, I can get a picture one of them
dog bans over Halland so he snuck out on the
on the on the veranda there and he's looking across

(51:51):
the road where he's here on all the island come
from and there's you know, a certain amount of light
coming from the security light down there on the bottom
of the ground. And he's, you know, he's he knows
that secured light there. He's seeing it every time he's
walked out. He walked out the secured light there again,
you know, little shadow of it, and he but he's
looking across the road and pretty soon he knows that

(52:14):
secured light, that secured light, it goes dark. He sees
some type of a shadow come across that thing. He's like,
what in the world. He turned and looked down toward
the secured light and he sees his giant standing down
there and this thing is about fourteen fifteen feet high.

(52:35):
Because he knows that, because he knows the secured light.
It's fifteen feet and this the head of this thing
almost blocked out the light. And he's taking oh my gosh,
I got it, you know, into a turner tablet where
he came that way, put it up there, and so

(52:56):
he said, why it's fuzzy. I got to zoom it.
So he's zooming it and he got his zoom right
in on the thing, and when he did, this thing
looked braged his head up at him and it went
raw cot it a little snarl, and he's like, I
could see fangs on this thing. And he said it
had the face of a female line and huge arms.

(53:18):
And he said it was just it was just the biggest,
baddest thing I had ever seen. And he said, uh.
I took one look at that thing's eyes and he said, oh,
recording done. But then I he turned that thing off.
He went back inside. He locked that door, ran into
his bedroom, grabbed his eye semi automatic, I thought, not say,

(53:39):
but no, his a K forty seven he had stashed
in there. Brought that gun out and sat right smack
to having the front of the door and had that
that thing was full. He had a full clip in it.
And he said, I'm just waiting. He said, I know
this thing's going to come up and it's going to
bust right through the door of my Cabinet's going to
eat me. It's going to eat me, he said. But
before it does, I'm with philis belly fold as soon

(54:01):
as it opened to the door. So he's sitting in
there and he's waiting, and he's waiting, and he's waiting,
and pretty soon with the haling, the howling, that the
the you know, I'm sorry, I forgot one one the
main factor of that story. When he walked out on
the ronde before before he saw the giant down here

(54:22):
by the security light. When he walked down onto the
door of his deck, right there, all the big all
the dogman's out there howling, they all stopped howling. And
he thought they had thought because they saw him walk
out on the deck with that, what I would think too,
And so he didn't think nothing. No, But that's when
he saw the shadow, you know, coming across there by
the security light. Now with that leaving net thought and

(54:45):
getting back to it now, all sudden, after about ten
minutes him sitting there, he hears the howling started againning,
and so he has he's connecting the dots. Maybe that
thing left and now they had left, they're back to
howling again. Because the whole time that he knew that

(55:08):
it was out there for sure, the dog man or
the howling was was since he stepped out he saw
that shadow, there was no more hawling, he said. He said,
it was almost like they were acknowledging this is the man,
this was the man, this was the boss, and they
completely shut up. So in my story I had in

(55:29):
there about that. That's I covered that more in depth,
and I covered chronologically I did. Hearing my story, I
kind of got ahead of myself. But yeah, he has seen.
Now I don't know if that's a Nephi Johnny saw.
It could have been there. It could maybe it was
something an entirely different. There's something out there that looks

(55:50):
like that female line type of head to Terry. They
refer to something like that as the Genoskua or another
name that they hear is the Gugway, the Gugweir or
something like that. So I don't know whatever what it
really is, but he said, it put the fear of

(56:11):
God in me. He said, real, he said, I thought,
for sure, I think it will come up and eat
me alive, so b riches. He's almost been dragged out
of his vehicle before with these things, these entities hiding
in the woods, or one was hiding underneath his truck
that one time. And and he dropped as he was
looking for the how that he had just heard five

(56:31):
minutes before that he put it had his flash flight
outside the window shining it, and he dropped his He
wanted to pull the flash flight back in to turn
the truck around, and as he did, he bow hit
the you know where the window is there, and then
the light drops out of saying he says, oh, I shoot,
And so he he starsed, and he opened up the door,

(56:52):
reaching down to get the flash flight, he drifted my
tip the flashlight and something grabbed his hand, grabbed his
arm and it felt like it graduate is its teeth
or whatever? And then and and he's trying to pull
his hand out. But he said, the funny thing about
it day the whole time, was that I knew there

(57:15):
was teeth, you know, bite down on my hand. He said,
I should have been in the utmost miserable amount of pain,
but he said, I could just feel it feeled a
little bit. I feel I could feel the jackedness on it,
and he said, I could feel me trying to pull
my hand out. But he said it didn't really excruciate.
And we heard like you was thinking almost like biting
my hand off or whatever. But he said it didn't anybody.

(57:37):
He said, they had such force on it that it
almost pulled me out of that truck, he said. He said,
I had my right hand on the steering wheel and
I wrapped it against the call, and he said, I'm
holding on for dear life. He said, finally I was
able somehow to pull my hand out of his mouth,
got back in the truck, my hand breathing profusely. He said,
all I did was tramp on the gap squill out

(58:00):
of there, so like I got away. So rich. Had
so many very near you know, I called near death encounters.
You know what I'm saying, of these cryptids that almost
almost ate them. But he got a lot of pictures
of these things, and you can find the stories in

(58:20):
chapter two of the book. And uh then in section
three of not chapter two of section two. Section three
of the book is where he he had the pictures.
Are there's I got fifteen whe I said, I just
want to get the ones that are the clearest, you know.
So there were some of them that, you know, they

(58:40):
were naturally a little fuzzy, but you still make out
shapes and everything. You knew it was some type of entity,
but you didn't have a reals super good clear picture
of it. But he did have some that were I
would say they were three fourths to seven eighth pretty
dog gone clear that you you knew exact actually what
you were looking at. And I put five of the

(59:04):
of the best ones on the back of my book there.
I mean, as if you're looking at the front cover,
you can see uh uh you know, the big book.
You can see the moth man and everything like that.
But uh and uh then et and some uh, some
of these some of these other hybridge that they have
back of the ones that have like a half goat

(59:26):
half man type of thing had horns on and set.
I got that on the front part. Now that the
creatures on the front part are I drew the front part.
So these aren't real creature, not not really. They're they
probably resemble the real creature, but they're just my drawing,
you know, they're not real. But the ones on the

(59:48):
back and on the left column. Those are actual pictures
that rich took out in the woods. Matter of fact,
one of them is so good that it was down
on dead Net Studios on YouTube. You can look it
up even right now. You go there and there'll be
a video of about the top ten dog man sighting
and number one is Richard's picture that he has this

(01:00:11):
dog man in the sunlight of all light. You would
think it being the dark or whatever, you know, this was.
This was of a dog man running in the sunlight
in the woods. And I got that picture on the
back of this book. Steve went out to Crypty returned
and that from him. You got to get the book.
It's very interesting. Like I said, my research is one

(01:00:33):
hundred percent conclusive, but it gives people something to chew
on when they're asking themselves, I wonder what these creatures are,
and I wonder, you know where they come from and
why are they here for other than they're scared that
he be Gmi's out of us, so everything and everything there.
He just gives you something, some type of a scale

(01:00:57):
to go by in your mind if you're if you're
wondering what are they? And I think that my own
personal opinion I mean, I have ten or twelve different
things that they could be, and there's I got a
narrow down to two or three that I really like.
One of us down in the Book of Enoch, where
it says that you know, in some type of a
star wars an invading long ago, perhaps even before the product,

(01:01:21):
before the creation of Adam, way before the creation of Adam.
I'm one of those kind of I believe the arth
is really a lot older. In just to six thousand years.
I believe it was a lot older than that. And
the Bible does not say that the earth is only
six thousand years old. It does hint at that in
the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Well,

(01:01:45):
when was the beginning? Was the beginning only six thousand
years ago? I mean, we know that God's eternal, So
if God's eternal, chances are the earth could very well
be a lot older than that, and I believe it is,
and in certain places the Bible does allude to that

(01:02:05):
particular thing. But but my book isn't wasn't written to,
you know, prove the age of the Earth or anything
like that, because that's where we're getting way off the
subject here. I want to try to stick on the
cryptage and how these how these crypted. These cryptid means
a creature that is basically unknown to science. They there's

(01:02:30):
not enough evidence for them to call it the creature
a real creature. Anyhow, the according to scientists, if Bigfoot
did exist, he could very well be the missing Lincoln
Darren evolution. That's one of the popular things they have
out there. But until they say they get a body

(01:02:51):
and can study it, they can't al really say that
for sure. Well, I'm here to tell you there's evidence
in my book that thwarts that revolution one completely, it
completely smashes it. There's evidence of my books in the
dinosaurs more more probably almost for sure definitely existed before

(01:03:13):
the Flood of Noah and after the Flood of Noah
until they eventually either died out or got got killed
by man, however you want to look at it. But
in the Book of Job it talks about two creatures
called one called bronosaurs and the other is called Leviathan,

(01:03:36):
not not bronosaurs, excuse me, bohemo. And a creature called Leviathan.
Bronosaurs is the name of a dinosaur that we have
given him. Please excuse me, Hey, I got a right
start with the bee, right, but no Behemoth and then Leviathan,
and we could go. I could go on about this creature,

(01:03:58):
but they are listed. Both of those are listed in
the Epic of bey Wolf, which I didn't talk much about.
I talked about the Epic of Gilga Mash, but the
Epic of bay Wolf was another powerful story. And again
I take people through the details of that and in
a way that everybody can understand it. I'm you know,

(01:04:20):
maybe not everybody, but most people. It's just general. I
don't talk and hard to understand terms. I'm not that
intelligent at all. I'm just a man that I believe
God has gifted with the ability to understand the Bible.
I can understand the Bible. I'm not but I'm and
again I ain't not posting close to being an expert.
I don't understand all the Lingo and the Greek and

(01:04:41):
all that stuff. I don't understand it all. But I
have got enough research to be able to help myself
connect the dots. And so that's why I wanted to,
you know, to record that in my book to help
other people in that too. So I think that I
covered three parts of the book. And the last part

(01:05:02):
that I didn't cover is part four, and I got
Caine Michael in there, and I got Judy Cook. Judy
Cook's a well known figure in the dog Man world.
Kine Michael is another researcher the Rich ran into and
their research matched up together perfectly, and they've had a
lot of they've had a few encounters themselves. And still

(01:05:24):
Caine shares that in the fourth part of the book.
And then then I get my what I call my
supernatural conclusion, and that's my take on what I think
these things may be, and the one and I'll say
this then all pretty well, and I ended up the
thing because I think I'm I'm pretty close to me
my hour or olver my hour. I don't know. I

(01:05:45):
haven't paid that close attention to the time. But anyhow
I said, I said, I think these beings very well
could be what the Book of You and I calls fairies,
because it says that the angels after the star Wars
and invasion, God defeated obviously the angels and the devil,
the Satan, the devil in that in that first invasion

(01:06:07):
and cast them and cast them to the earth. Now
there's a the first portion of scripture in Lie ten
eighteen where Jesus said I beheld Satan as lightning fall
from heaven. And people say, well, maybe he was just
talking about the disciples, you know, being victorious over over

(01:06:28):
the demons because they were able, they were able to
cast them out, and that's why that's what Jesus was
referring to. But some people believe that Jesus was actually
referring to Saine's original downfall, and that would have probably
been this very first Star Wars invasion. Now, again, these
things are a matter of interpretation, uh, and we can't

(01:06:48):
stay for a certain but that's what I have always
believed that Jesus actually saw if not, if Not was
the one that threw him out of heaven, I don't know,
but he said I'd beheld him as lightning fall from heaven.

Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
So that just he's saying that to inform everybody that
he writes the story. Jesus does, the son of God.
He writes the story. He's in control of all things.
And I believe that's what he made that statement. From
the very beginning of time up until the present, up
until our day. He whether it looks like it or not,

(01:07:27):
he is in control of things. So that's kind of
how I wanted the eye, and I think these things
says that when he cast him to the earth, that
sun fell upon The ones that fell upon a regular ground,
you know, likes plains or fields or whatnot, became you know,
demons and evil spirits and ghosts. The ones that fell

(01:07:50):
into the woodland became wild wild men like well maybe
like Bigfoot or woodland spirit. And they said that's ones
that fell into the waters became water spirits. And and
if you if you've watched Instagram or Facebook, here lady,
they've been talking about all these psych steam mostle type

(01:08:12):
things that we didn't really believe was there, but that
there's allegedly sting with all kinds of different sea vehicles
or other eige witnesses or ships or sailors or what
bit that are out there, you know, setting in ships,
navy men, et cetera. There's steaing things that they just
can't explain. And then there's you have the Antarctica at

(01:08:35):
Fasco about you know, alien bases being down there. You
hear about the dark pyramids uh in Alaska, even some
in Antarctica and the under the ocean supposed to be
one underneath the Bermuda triangle that may be estatiated with, uh,
the the continent of Atlantis that's supposedly disappeared, uh for

(01:08:56):
sure before the flood. Uh that was that was just destroyed.
And so there's just God really did create a world
with a lot of mystery. You have to admit that
He sure gave us a lot of things to chew on.
And I for sure, I for one, don't I don't
have all the answers, but these are the kind of
things that really intrigued me. It's kind of like where

(01:09:18):
my passion is. I like to kind of dig into
some of that stuff. And that's what you have the
Supernatural Cryptids returns and that for them. Get yours on Amazon,
Barnes and Nobles, and Walmart website and actually any of
the other social media websites out that you can and

(01:09:41):
my contact information. I have a website it's called Supernatural
Cryptids dot com and if you would click on that
and it should bring up me my lovely picture, some
pictures that I got in the book and some that
I just took it different events like Mothman Festival and

(01:10:03):
things of that nature. And speaking of the Mothman Festival.
I have some other people on in my book that
I want. I want to quickly quickly cover them because
they're very important. I got the course Judie Cook, K
Michael on the fourth part. They have a few stories
in there, but the ones I wanted really key on
was Linda Stigmund. Now she is the only only one

(01:10:25):
out of about tier. There's ten moth Man eyewitnesses still
living day and Linda is one of them. And I've
interviewed her and I've i asked her, would you write
the story and I'll put your story in my book,
And she was more than glad to I put her
story in the book about seeing the moth Man. They're

(01:10:46):
in nineteen sixty six sixty seven. And I got the
Matt imch He's he has a YouTube channel, Planet four
twelve and Matt has a terrifying story of his encounter
with a dog man that will literally, you know, have
the hair just like Richard's stories. You know what I'm saying,

(01:11:08):
have the hair on the back of your next standing
up the heat. He was within five feet of a
dog man that stood about between between ten and twelve
foot all and he's told the story verbade him several
different times, and he ready ever gets his story messed
up almost the same every time he's seeing You can

(01:11:31):
tell when I interviewed it myself personally, and I could
see as he was telling the story, the man was
reliving his experience and you could just see, you know,
beats of sweat form on his forehead and he would
wipe his foreheads ex cheer me. I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
I'm just it just like I'm reliving this thing. I said,
I can see, bro, I can see it. I s
to take your time. And one thing he had when

(01:11:53):
he was this thing was five all just shortened up profound.
When this thing was five feet standing in front of him,
he said, I knew I was going to die. I
didn't think I was going to die. He said, I
knew I was going to die. And he said, my
thoughts were just like just like time stood still. At
that moment. He started recalling my dog at home, and

(01:12:14):
I loved it. I would never ever ever get the
pet my dog or love my dog again. My football career,
which I thought I had a promised one in high
school coming up, I wouldn't be of experience none of
that I went to college to get that. That's out
the door, he thought, he said, my whole life flashing
in front of me. Was the split two or three seconds.
He's just standing there looking at me, he said, And

(01:12:37):
I had like golden ember, uh you know, eyes to it,
He said, you like fire. He said. You could tell
there was an intelligence in this big, bad wolf that
he said just was not of this world, he said,
And my eyes and in my mind, I said, if
I ever seen a demon, I was looking at one

(01:12:58):
right now. And the way he told it, it was
just like I w was right there with him seeing
this stuff happen. You know, I'm trying to say, he said,
five feet in front of me. All he had to
do was take one swing. He said. I was going
to be torn in pieces. And he said, but the
only thing that saved me, David, he said, I'd believe

(01:13:19):
there was dividing an intervention. I said, what the heck happened?
Did a year folk come down and zap them up
or something? He goes, no, man, he said, would you
believe a train came around to bend down there and
blew its whistle? I goes, what he said, Let that
exact moment that happened. And he said, Dave, we saw

(01:13:42):
trains down there before this building, this old dilapidated mining building,
or not mining, but but still still building. They may
still there at that place. And he said, not once
did they ever blow the whistle at this, but he
said this time they did. And he said that thing
turned its head and looked at the train, and then

(01:14:04):
it flipped and looked back at me, then look back
at the train again, and then I looked back at me,
and then I said, in one motion, it ran right
back down downstairs. And he said, I couldn't believe what
I was seeing. He said, because my heart was almost
like down there in my feet. And he said, I
looked down the stairs it was as it was running

(01:14:27):
down and I'm just about ready to jump up for glee,
you know, because this thing is actually running away. And
he says, it ran down the last part of them stairs.
It became like a ghost figure. He said, I turned
into a black shadow. He said, this thing went from
what I thought was a physical being and turned into

(01:14:48):
a black shadow. And then he said it was gone.
Well to me, that kind of confirmed the supernatural, uh
you know, aspect of this thing he saw and that
it very well made have been a demon. I believe that,
like uh what the one guy uh Gary Steerman of

(01:15:10):
Prophecy in the News says, these things can take physical form.
These demons can take physical form for a while and
then seems for a little bit then they have to
go back to a supernatural type thing. And it may
be that was winning went back. I don't know, you know,
I'm trying to say, I get I don't have all

(01:15:30):
the answers, but it does make a lot of sense
to me. So anyhow, that's where we are with the book.
And if I have interestew or peaked anybody's curiosity, hey,
check out that Amazon website Stupernatural Cryptid return the netil
them and get your copy there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
Well, that's it for tonight's show.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
If you've had a big Foot sighting and would like
to be a guest, please go to my Bigfoot Sighting
dot com and let us know.

Speaker 5 (01:15:59):
Thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
We have a great night seen a bunch.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Of run down no whose towns, where the church is
the backbone loos and the bow and the fasting melodies.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Groove in, but the bomb Man rose, where the roosts
run deep beyond the nose of the busy streets with
the songs of the South of su Then.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
I when I hear the promp porch picking down home rhythm,
bringing out I don't run from Benjam music. Yeah, the
sound of a memory brings me back to the bluegrass
playing the Madadi jack. It's become any been through it,

(01:16:47):
getting through the day on scrubs and skags, bucking name
bales to this Tennessee jams.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
There's no the way that I do it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
When I hear the plump porch down home rhythm bringing
out how o' run from Benjong music.

Speaker 6 (01:17:07):
Yeah, something going backwards, backwards and double town looking into
the sword and the strumming louk and tuky start. There's
nothing hit the strumming out, count your boy living warm,
and I hit a back boat picking down rhythm, bringing
us that from from men of music the city A

(01:17:40):
trust me wild on the dune, miss cars rushing by
with the beasts on the stereos to man, and I
hear the brown bot picking down home rhythm, bringing nuts
how don't.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Run from ben Jong music?

Speaker 6 (01:17:58):
Yeah, summing gallop back words back with a double tub
getting in the sword and the drumming looking turky stars.
These strumming down count your born living when I hit
a bum boards picking dr br the bringing.

Speaker 5 (01:18:16):
Us Powerful from the Pas, summing gallop, back words back on.

Speaker 6 (01:18:43):
A double tap, getting in the sword and the drumman
looking turk Star, the strumming.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
Down count your born.

Speaker 5 (01:18:50):
Living when I hear the bum boats picking dab.

Speaker 6 (01:18:55):
Bring the brad, Chicken botsmin Mona's Very Sweet Tea, Come

Speaker 5 (01:18:58):
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