A Pretty Big Bigfoot - My Bigfoot Sighting Episode 180

Tonight’s guest, Blake Duescher, was featured on Episode 178, and on that show he shared numerous experiences he’s had with Sasquatch, over the years. Well, Blake has had so many experiences, he wasn’t able to share all of them on that show. Due to that, I asked him if he’d be interested in coming back, to share more of his experiences. Luckily, he agreed to do that, so we hope you’ll listen to him to that on tonight’s show.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey you there, thanks for tuning in. Ready for another
episode of my big foot siding.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
All right, then let's do this.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Send a bunch of rundown no whose towns with the
church is the backbone, nose and the power and the
pasturing melodies coven with the bomb Man Rose by a Roos,
run deep beyond the nose of the busy streets.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
With the songs of the South O su Then.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
And I hear the prompt picking down home rhythm bringing
out I Don't Run from Benjam music.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
Yeah, hey guys, it's Blake from the Lost Cryptis Conservatory.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Back again with more stories. So we left off talk
about the expedition to Florida. When we came back to
Mission Michigan and stuff, the group of us started to
organize it a Bigfoot event over at the Sister Lakes
area based on some old encounters in nineteen sixty two

(01:19):
in which there was a reported at sasquatch or you know,
dog man like creature that was roaming around the area.
And so as we started getting prepped up and stuff,
I actually, you know, of course, was researching and stuff.
But on the way home from going to the grocery store,

(01:41):
we were going about fifty five down this road, gone
dozens of times each and every year, and all of
a sudden we see this canine head start to cross
this road in the white line. And at first I'm thinking,
you know, again, this happens so fast but slowly at
the same time, and I'm thinking, oh, it's coyote crossing

(02:03):
the road during you know, kind of sunset. It's pretty
nice out. It was October, and as it got to
the middle of the road I was taking back. I
was like, oh, my gosh, it's it's not a coyote.
It's a wolf. It's huge and clearly acrossing the road.
And as it crossed the road, began to get up

(02:26):
and run like a person would in the field, upright,
running six no more than seven feet tall. As we're
passing by it, and you know, I got the camera
down in the cup holder and I kind of look
over with the person with me and the headshake. No
was and that was it. And I'm left wondering, you know,

(02:46):
what the heck was that? And that's apparently you know,
these dog man creatures were cited in Michigan and other places.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
But you know, seeing is believing, because whatever that is
that's a whole nother story. But I did in fact
see a wolf cross the road and stand up and
run like a person would, with its arms moving like
a person would.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
So that was pretty weird.

Speaker 6 (03:15):
And that leads up to our little outing that we
had over in the Sister Lakes area in which I
actually had a dream and this deja vu event happened
where I explained these dog man.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Encounter to a group of people sitting around a fire,
and that actually took place in reality after the dream
happened when we got to there, So that was a
little weird. But we ended up going to Allegant County

(03:51):
on the western side of Michigan based on a number
of sightings that we've got over over time, and so
this was after the Florida thing where I was kind
of honestly a little disappointed I didn't go after the
red Eye Shine creature and walk right up to it
and see what it was. So we went to this
camping spot and at nighttime we had multiple people there

(04:14):
with different types of equipment like night vision and thermal.
There were people scouting around. They thought they were potentially
hearing stuff and having activity for what point sure, So
we had a good group of us, about five of
us with thermal, walking up the trail. We started hearing stuff,
and so we've kind of started making our little sounds whoops,

(04:38):
and I actually did some Native American greetings.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
And.

Speaker 7 (04:45):
It seemed like we were getting responses enough that you know,
people are kind of like on edge. And at one
point it got to the point where me and another
researcher just started running.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
After what the sound was, and we could hear up
and running away, and we chased it up the trail.
Then we came back to the other group and we
start hearing it again, and the whole group of us
walked up the trail more and we heard it again,
and me and the other researcher, I mean on thermal.

(05:16):
You can see us running through the words right after
where this creature should be almost should be on thermal.
But what ended up happened is I was filming on
the Girl pro and I run up to this point
where this the edge of the flat ground goes into
like the steep ravine, probably fifty feet down, maybe a

(05:37):
little less, into a creek bottom. And when I got
up to this point, I heard the sounds of something
like sounded like I slapped a branch and was like
falling down this creek bottom, but like hitting the tops
of trees and stuff, or hitting trees and slapping and

(05:57):
stuff and the thump and that was recorded, and you know,
it was really weird in this pretty adamant you know,
we were right there. After these things, we came back
and again when we got to the group of people
and stuff, some people wanted to go back. Another person,
another researcher, was in a totally different area, like at

(06:20):
the beginning of the trail system, and he was having
some issues, so other people went back to help him.
But me and the researcher that went chasing kept walking
down the trail and engaging what we thought was a sasquatch.
And I was a little bit more hot headed and
brazen by trying to actively provoke this this creature by

(06:42):
chasing it and calling out to it. And we started
aggressively kind of like snapping sticks and stuff that I
probably wouldn't recommend, and I really do, but coming back
from Florida, wanted to go after these things and make
sure that you know what we're actually going at after
It's not a deer, not raccoon, not anything that we're misidentifying,

(07:05):
so you know, we chase the things, and it honestly
felt like it felt like the response we get after
the aggressiveness and the calling out was a kind of
almost like a recogniscing response. We got a response and
was recorded a slight tree break in, tree knocks and

(07:31):
some all the other audio stuff. But it was almost
like this kind of like a friendliness of playfulness this,
you know, even though we're kind of being dumb and
aggressive out there, you know, it wasn't anything that we
had to be worried about. It was just more of
an acknowledgement. And so that was a little weird. But

(07:55):
after a couple hours out there of doing that, we
me and the other researcher are walking back and he
turns and looks and he says, he gets really shocked,
and he you know, starts saying, you know, there's where
there was running on the trail. I seen when I
see when it was right there, and apparently it was
a pretty big bigfoot seven to eight feet tall, standing

(08:17):
on the trail. And when the researcher turned and looked,
you know, this thing is like sixty sixty feet away.
It wasn't that far he said, it turned and walked
off the trail into the woods and under the moonlight
he could see, you know, got a pretty good look
at it silhouette and darkness that it blocked out the

(08:38):
moonlight on the trail. When it walked off, the moonlight
came onto the trail. So he was pretty excited and
riled up with that, and you know, so we spent
a little more time out there trying to interact, but
nothing happened, and tried to get back over to where
the thermal camera was and other people's night visions. So

(08:58):
regrouped and stuff, and I think we got some calls
and knocked on the way out, and this can be
found out the Allegant Expedition Part one. And that was
night one, and so we had a pretty good game
plan of what we wanted to do for night two
was actually camp out there. And so we actually found

(09:18):
a spot where we set up and had stuff where
fire ready to go. We didn't let a fire yet
to be planned and ended up going into this ravine
and creek bottom and just trudging through that. After going
on the trail system and trying to interact with these
things a lot more so we split off and there

(09:44):
were two researchers at camp. We wanted to stay at camp,
and me and the other researcher from the night before
decided to walk the trail systems and go on the
creek bottom. And when it ended up happening is we
started hearing some stuff and it's always like, well, you know,

(10:05):
maybe that's a bigfoot, maybe it's a you know, a
chipmunk or something else. And there's a lot of what ifs,
and maybe that's you know, are very small but tend
to can add up to things. And escalation started happening.
Once we got into the creek bottom. We actually got
hissed at. We had a couple of grunts and the growl,

(10:30):
and this was recorded and this is all on Alegant
Expedition Part two. And when we're experiencing all this, you know,
the other researchers each and every time is getting a
little bit more aggravated and scared and kind of upset
because these things are close, I mean, when they're hit

(10:51):
when we're his dad, the thing is, I mean, it's
pretty close to be able to hear it and get
it on the go pro audio. So we get in
this creek bottom as we're walking around, we start thinking
that they're right there, obviously around us, and it's pretty

(11:13):
hard to trudge through there with the munk and the
sludge and slime, you know, sinking down. You have to
really have waiters, and at that point we were just
soaking wet and shrudging through. So I think it was
kind of unexpected that. I don't think the Sasquatches really
expected that at nighttime sound. At the same time this

(11:34):
is happening, we're getting text messages and phone calls about
there's something at camp, there's something around camp that's messing
with us and stuff. And the other researcher starts to
actually blair the radio music out of a truck and
that is causing the Sasquatches at camp apparently to be active.

(12:00):
And at this moment, we were kind of frustrated because
we're trying to capture audio of what's happening around us
and we have this music and stuff, and you know,
I'm talking to the other researcher and you know, I'm
kind of like, you know, I really hope he kind
of cuts it out because it's messing with what we're
trying to do. And apparently, and then you know, I

(12:23):
text him pretty heated message about, you know, shutting that
music off because we need to be able to hear
the stuff on audio even at camp. And so the
music goes off and we're thinking, okay, sweet, and we
walk around a couple more minutes and get a couple
more things going on where we think we're hearing them

(12:45):
around us, but we can't quite see him. All of
a sudden, there's this huge, just explosion of water splash
where it felt like this bowling ball sized boulder splashed
into the water this creek that wash you know, maybe
fifty feet away from us. We're kind of on this

(13:05):
island and the water goes around this little island on
this creek, and the water splashed like this rock was
just came straight down with enough force that, I mean,
to be frank, if it hit one of us like
a bowling ball, it would have crumpled us into the ground,
broken us, probably killed us most likely, But the fact

(13:29):
that we wouldn't have heard it or seen it most definitely.
I was very scary, and the other researchers was like,
oh my gosh, you just hear that. And something got
thrown into the water, into the creek, and he was
that was about it for him. He was kind of
scared at that moment, and rightfully so that was a

(13:50):
pretty dangerous situation and warning to not mess around with
these creatures, because I mean, you're just gonna We're just
pretty much a couple of toddlers out there stumbling around
not very fast, and these things are walking around the
circles with us and have artillery shells that are lobbing

(14:11):
out there. It's pretty intense feeling and in those situations,
and I told him it's like every situation, you got
to remain calm. You can't be scared. You can be scared,
but you know you can't run away. You know where
you're going to run. You can't run fast enough and
you're nowhere near anything that's going to help you know.
You can't be mad, you can't be aggressive. You shouldn't

(14:33):
go and start shooting your gun off because you know
you don't even see what's through the rock. What's that
going to do? The best thing to do in almost
every scenario is to remain calm and just walk out.
And that's what it's always done, I've always done and
always helped me so and so that's what we did,
you know, because that was a clear warning sign and

(14:56):
at the same time getting the text messages phones up
there's something at camp or something at camp, and I so, well,
let's just go back to camp. There's more people and
if there's stuff happening out there, then we'll be good
because we can go out there and still capture evidence
of sasquatches, but you know, next camp without being so
vulnerable in these ravines and creek bottoms. And so that's

(15:20):
what we did when we got up there. That the
other researchers were like, yeah, there was something around camp
and music was blaring, and all of a sudden, chunk
of wood flew up and hit the back of the
window and landed on into the bed, and it was
you know, we've seen the piece of wood and stuff,
and I'm pretty sure that you know, that's what actually happened.

(15:43):
They had no reason to lie about it. And it
was a piece of split firewood that actually came from
the fire pit that you know, I had prepped up
ready to go to light. And so they were pretty, uh,
pretty shook up about that. And he said he shot
the new golf and walked around and he looked over
there and he said that he's seen the head, the

(16:08):
round head of one sticking up about eight foot above
a bush that you can see from camp from his
position where the truck was parked, and that when he's
seen and looked over there, it ducked out and went away.
And so we walked around over there trying to look
and see if we could see anything, and nothing else

(16:31):
happened that night, but that was pretty intense. You know,
we got a lot of that captured on audio. It's
on the YouTube and the Part one and Part two
of the Allegant Expeditions. So that was pretty a pretty
good learning experience about, you know, chasing after these things

(16:52):
and compared to that chasing after it, and it is
pretty scary when you are doing that. It does take
a good team, a good group people to be out
there because when you're in those oh crap moments, you
know you are relying on your like battle body when
you're out there, and you know you you don't want
to cross any line that's going to get anyone hurt

(17:13):
or anything that's going to jeopardize the safety of people.
So that was a pretty intense learning experience. So so
after that, I think we've started, did a couple of
winter expeditions and stuff. Nothing major happen all the way

(17:33):
up until we had our second event, which was the
Michigan big Foot Conference. And it was a pretty big
conference and in our burn stuff. Had a good group
of people that showed up and stuff. It was wonderful
to meet Cliff Brackman and even had igor Bertzev there
and quite the character. So we so we ended up

(18:00):
going up north after the event, up to a cabin,
up to a place where you know, it looked like
a good prime area of Sasquatch Bigfoot area, and this
was up from the up we set up camp. There
was multiple researchers there from around the country. We had

(18:20):
the she Squatchers, We had Robert Creiter there, Adam Davies,
a number of Michigan researchers of course. But we had
a cabin where a number of researchers and the Lady
State and we had a campsite out a couple hundred
yards out away from the cabin in the woodline and stuff,
and we went around the areas and stuff. Had had

(18:44):
some little things happened, possible tracks that were found and
potential ghost stuff. But we ended up moving the campsite
miles and miles away into the actual wilderness off of
a two track trail and started exploring that area. And

(19:04):
during the daytime as different groups are, you know, in
different areas, and some people are at camp, the people
at camp, and we have audio recorders going during this time.
The people at camp are hearing stuff and it's coming
from the swamp, and you know, they're not quite sure.
Sounds like a couple of times they said they actually

(19:26):
said it, you know, sounded like a person talking out there.
But there was no one out there at the time.
And so we were out there and did some night
investigations and wrote ATVs around and at one particular time,
a group of people rode on the ATVs and came
up upon a gravel pit and thought they saw a

(19:47):
huge creature that went up this gravel pit. And as
we investigated it came back and got more people with equipment.
They came back, and as we investigated, there was definitely
something pretty huge that made some impressions in the gravel
that you know, it hollowed it out and slid down
and went up the inbankment. And so the next night

(20:14):
and the whole well, the whole reason we came out
there and stuff because people are riding out there and
they found a huge X structure and Jason Kenzie was
out there from searching for sasquatch and on two B great,
great guy, funny, awesome to be out in the field
with just just a whot to be to be around.

(20:35):
And so he was very adamant, you know, he's a
filmmaker making documentary and very adamant that he wants to
set up his hammock underneath this huge X structure. And
so he does, and another researchers camping out, you know,
just like ten feet from him, leaned up sitting up
against the tree. And that's how that's how they're gonna sleep.

(20:56):
He's gonna sleep in this like cover hammock and stuff.
And I think the first night that we were out
there is when he heard something walking around camp. He
woke up and he heard something heavy walking around camp
and it sounded by petal and he kind of got
freaked out and said, Dave, Dave, is that you? Is

(21:18):
that you walking out there? And he as he kind
of you know, opened up his hammock thing and looked out.
You know, Dave was you know, waking up and he
was sitting right there, and I say, no, no, I didn't.
I didn't walk out there or anything. And so that really,
you know, got Jason excited and stuff. And the next
couple of nights when we're out there, it was pretty awesome.

(21:41):
But the second to last night that we're out there,
I had put an audio recorder way off down this
trail around the spind and needed to change the batteries.
And I asked anyone the whole camp, you know, who's
volunteering to go with me, to walk out there to

(22:02):
change the batteries. And the only hand that shot up was,
of course, was was Jason. It was probably the best
pest hand to shoot up because he was shooting the
documentary had the best four K camera on site. So
so he loaded, we loaded up, walked down this trail system,
got into this piney area and changed out three quorder.

(22:25):
My headlight died. It was a really expensive one and
nice one that could see a couple of hundred yards
with you know, a nice red light. So I had
to use one of Jason's kind of a cheaper, you know,
white light things. And so when we walked back to camp,
we got across this this three branches that were broken

(22:49):
and broke down and in our face, I mean, plain
as day, we would have ran into them. And so
we're talking about it, like, you know, was this here?
You know, we could walk up. It's like, no, I
don't remember pushing anything or dodging anything. And I'm pretty
sure this is you know, this is new and you know,
maybe the sasquatch and stuff did it. And kind of

(23:11):
half jokingly, and as we walk and take a couple
of steps, we hear all of a sudden, this burst
of commotion or like something on the ground sweeped a
bunch of leaves out of the area. This is just
burst of commotion, and all of a sudden, I grab

(23:34):
the rifle off my shoulder and I pointed towards the
direction of the sound, but at the ground, because I
don't see what's actually making the sound. I'm thinking it's
a bear. I'm thinking it's wolves, maybe a lion, mountain
lion cougar, because we actually seen those tracks throughout this
week that we're up there, and very quickly there's this

(23:56):
commotion of movement that scatters and instinctively, very fast, instinctively,
I thought, you know, that's bigfoot stuff that sounds like
a bigfoot scattering around because of the slinking and stuff
of that I've described in the previous show. And so
I actually shouldered my rifle pretty much just moments after

(24:17):
that hearing that, and a couple of moments, you know,
after that, is when we actually see the eyeshine peek
out from behind this tree that's probably you know, sixty
feet away the most down the trail where we just
came from actually, and so we're looking at it, and

(24:39):
you know, Jason starts to film. He's turns on a
Sony four KK quorterer and you know, he says, you know, wow,
do you see that? And for what seemed like interny
But you know, we're looking at it, pointing, and I'm
hearing sounds like something coming around us, and I say

(25:01):
to Jason, I think there's more than more than one.
There's there's one circling around us. And very quickly there's
a second one that pops out and hits seven maybe
eight feet tall standing by the tree. We all be
seeds like the head and eye shine of these creatures.

(25:22):
So I'm still I'm thinking, well, it could be a raccoon.
They could be raccoons just you know, popped out of
the tree, because all I'm seeing is like, you know,
a kind of silhouette of ahead and it's just eye
shines just looking right at you us. And one's about
three feet off the ground next to the tree. One's
eight feet off the ground next to the tree, popping out.
And so to this to them, they were popping off

(25:45):
of the right side of the tree and we were
looking at them. So they're popping off towards the left
from our point of view, and you know, I'm thinking, Okay,
it could be it could be a bear. It could
be this a raccoon or bear or the only things
I'm that could be standing or on the tree, and
very you know, we're pointing at him stuff like, you know,

(26:07):
we see him and his his kincorder can't see the eyeshine.
Fortunately we are able to see with our eyes. But
the camera did not pick this up. And the one
on the bottom turns and looks up, and when it
does that, I see the entire silhouette of its cranium
from the side profile, and you see where like its

(26:31):
face would be and where a forehead would go. And
then it had like another extension of a forehead that
went up to like a carest from what we see
on like a gray dip or like a gorilla. And
when it did that, it looked up. I instantly knew
that's not a wolf, that's not a raccoon, that's not

(26:51):
a bear. That's that's what we were looking for, the
sasquatch creatures. And this huge, just crest looking, massive elongated skull,
and it looked up and it looks back down, and

(27:12):
I'm still hearing this one. It seems like there's another
one moving around on of us. We're not quite sure
how many there are. And so we're filming and Alsoden
Jason steps back and he brushes against a bush and
scares himself and kind of gasps, and I kind of
put my hands up in between him and the sasquatch

(27:32):
and I start to laugh, you know, to show that
we are friendly. That's funny. You know, he got scared.
That's kind of comical and funny because these creatures might
understand he's exaggerated body language and emotional responses like laughing
at something that's funny and things like that. So that's

(27:55):
exactly what I did instinctively, just to kind of situation
down because I have a rifle and stuff and and
these creatures are doing this. So we're you know, kind
of freaked out a little bit right there, but you know,
we at the same time, Mee and Jason kind of
almost like a feeling, you know, we got a level,

(28:17):
let's go up there and check. And so we start
to walk over there and they they disappear. As we're
walking up there. Instinctively, I begin to like sing this
Native American greeting of this hello, how are you, and
singing it in a tone that seems docile and friendly,

(28:41):
and Jason just sings l la la la. He's kind
of scared. You know. You can kind of see I'm
kind of scared too.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
You know.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
It's a pretty intense situation, but trying to be as
friendly as we can and singing this tonal tonal music
to not get our heads worked off, frankly.

Speaker 8 (29:01):
But so we get up to the spot where the
creatures were, and we looked both ways and there's a
pretty big like tunnel through the you know, kind of
like forested brush where a big creature could go without
being heard.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
But you know, all around us is forest, you know,
so it's not like you can't go far without making
too much noise, at least we would think. But we're
standing there and looking and I look over to my
left staring or whatever could be right there. I had
my head lamp, you know, and look forward, and Jason

(29:37):
starts turning the camera back on us because there's no
action for the camera. See, he's explaining what's going on.
We're moving back and forth, and he catches this huge
eyeball that's standing right there, right pretty much next to us,
and you know, you're fifteen twenty feet away, I mean
pretty far, but pretty close enough that that that camcord
is picking it up. And it's a huge again, one

(30:00):
solid eyeball, like the creature has one eyeball shut or something.
We don't see it, we're hearing it, and you know,
we decide to turn around and walk back because there's
more you know, there's more equipment, there's there's more people
to witness this stuff. And you know, I'm trying to

(30:24):
get this Native American greeting to them. We're talking to them.
I'm asking them if we can see them, you know,
could we see you? You know, we don't mean no
harm stuff like that. And we get back to where
the twigs are broken, and we start talking about, well, yeah,
I think definitely they they did this manipulation for us
to notice as we're you know, walking back, and maybe

(30:46):
we just caught them as they just did it, or
they would wait here to watch us as we possibly
notice this, or you know, something like that. And you know,
as we're walking up to that, the camera picks up
that single eyeball shine again, and you know, it's pretty

(31:06):
far away because we were moving down the trail now,
but you can see it almost like it turned and
is looking at us now in a different position to
where it would have been when it first was picked up. So,
after we talked about the treat manipulation and we're kind
of just standing there, I'm looking one way, and Jason's
looking down the trail where we have to go, and

(31:29):
the camera's facing him, so you can see Jason's face
and he's looking and he almost says something like he's
seen something, but then he looks back at me and
kind of just like almost brushes it off, and he
looks back, walks a couple of steps, looks at me,
and he walks again, looks and all of a sudden
you see his face on the camera, do a double

(31:51):
take and look, and almost like a factor reset happens.
His face completely just gets wiped away and he starts shouting,
I see one across the trail. I just seen it.
It just crawled across the trail. And I started asking
him rapid fire questions like you know, what what it
looked like, how big was it? You know, how far
away was it? Where did it go? And he starts

(32:13):
answering them, and he's like, he's like the eyeball, you know,
the eye shine and stuff was huge, and they just went
across and they were, you know, like this, And I'm
looking at where the creature spider crawled is what he described.
It was standing there and it dropped down and spider

(32:33):
crawled across the trail, and you know, again, it's pretty
close to where as soon as he tells me where
it went, I'm looking. There's nothing around there, and I'm
not hearing anything, you know, And that's the weirdest part,
is not hearing anything. So he gets kind of freaked
out and I actually say, you know, thank you, thank you,
sabe On. That's the Native America turn up up in

(32:57):
the region that we're at for sas quattions. So I said,
thank you, thank you guys for letting to see them,
and I invited them to come back to camp with
us because the situation is pretty scary. We should get
back to camp again more people, and so we did
and we told everyone, got everyone excited, and later that

(33:19):
night we were all kind of talking to camp. Because
later that night, when we were all talking at camp,
because activity died down, people went out and stuff, but
nothing else happened. A person was messing around with a
flair and they looked up and seeing an individual that

(33:39):
was behind all of us and stuff, kind of out
behind where I was camped, watching us. And unfortunately this
flair wasn't recording and stuff. They actually had a software
issue that wasn't supposed to be on there. As this
creature seemed to notice the researcher who had the flare,

(34:01):
who was watching this creature and walking over to him.
The creature seemed to notice him and just walk completely
straight backwards and then dipped down and was gone. And
of course the researcher alerted everyone and scattered around and
tried to figure out and to find where that thing went.
And I couldn't So that was a pretty intense moment

(34:26):
with me and Jason, and pretty scary intense moment in general,
because you know, one I had a rifle aimed it
at the creatures, but when I put the rifle away,
they came came back and showed themselves, and you know,
that was an incredible thing that you know, at the time,
I didn't have my night vision, I didn't have my

(34:47):
thermal and if I'm ever in that kind of situation again,
the new thermal camera will almost definitely pick all of
that up and have almost undeniable proof in that situation.
It really seemed like the rifle and the gun didn't
matter in that situation. Once they realized I wasn't going
to actually shoot at them, they got pretty scared when

(35:09):
I pointed the rifle at them, because they scattered it
away on both sides. But again, once I put that
rifle around, it came out. And I've been pondering this
ever since it happened, and it's almost like it's almost
like they took the chance and decided to alert us
to their presence by brushing the ground or causing some

(35:31):
kind of disturbance in the ground that alerted us even
though I had a rifle on my shoulder that I'm
sure they know what it was. I've been carrying it
out there all week. I'm sure they knew exactly what
they were doing when they decided, you know what, let's
make some sounds, let's alert these people. And I'm sure

(35:54):
they fully expected the rifle to be pointed at them,
almost because you know, that's what normally, who would happen
with people that carry out in woods where there's bears
and wolves and other things. And so when I put
the rifle away, you know, it's like that intelligent decision
making comes into play where well, you know, it wasn't

(36:14):
it wasn't that long before they actually showed themselves, and
you know, we're pointing at them and stuff. And I
really believe in the like the body language is something
how we communicate with them, you know, but by you know,
because we don't maybe they I don't know if they
understand English and all that. They certainly have never spoke
English to me, but I try to speak to that.

(36:37):
And but I think the body language is really helpful
because I think they will pick up on that and
understand that a lot better. And so you know, we
pointed at them to let them know we've seen them,
and it was it was pretty incredible and stuff. And
after that, you know, researching it, come to find out
that there is a a lot a lot of missing

(37:03):
people all around there. So and it was one of
those moments where you know, how far is this situation
would go? When these creatures are alerting us to their presence,
letting us watch them. And there was a you know,
that third one that creeped around us, got behind us,
and I don't know was watching us, waiting for us

(37:23):
as we walked down the trail before Jason's seen it
crawl across the the trail system. I mean, So that
was that was that was pretty crazy. So after that happened,
I kind of downsized on the having a bunch of
people all at camp and researching stuff at once in
the group. So downsizing stuff, I started implementating more, implementing

(37:47):
more audio equipment in different spots and begin to get
some interesting things like tree knocks and some vocalizations. I
actually get got some that sounds like something you know
when you pick up a stick and you whip it
across the air and it goes woo whoosh. I got

(38:09):
that a couple of times in this particular spot where
I've been researching over the years, and over the years,
like I mentioned in the earlier episode, was a spot
that has produced a couple of very interesting things, like
mostly wood knocks. But when I went in this area

(38:31):
this one time I went down into down this hill
on the trail system, I heard it would knock in
the front left of me, knock. Couple secs later, I
have another one to the front right of me, knock.
Seconds later, I heard one all the way to behind

(38:51):
me to the right knock. Another one all the way
to the left knock. Like I was in some of
the box square and all the owners were knocks, and
I was just oh, what, you know, instantly kind of
shocked and stuff. And started going out there pretty much
for a whole week is time allowed, and started noticing

(39:13):
the tree manipulations and stuff that was on the trail
that wasn't there before, and a pine branch that was
woven into maple branches, and stuff in the structure where
you know, when you look around, there's no pine trees
for a two hundred yard radius in every direction, you know,
there's no pine trees for it to fall it's one

(39:35):
time out there, I started hearing this tree kind of
you know, creak in the wind. And I'm in this
spot and I'm walking around and I walked to a
whole different spot and I hear the same sound of
this tree creaking in the wind. I was like, Oh,
that's weird. It kind of sounds the same. And I
go to a completely different spot and again I hear

(39:58):
the same exact sound out of this tree creaking in
the wind, almost like it's following me. And at this
point I'm like, Okay, come on now. But I go
to another spot and it happened again, and I'm thinking,
you know, that's I don't know what that is. That's
pretty weird. Same area. But I started recently still continue

(40:20):
doing the audio, and over the past years getting these
wood knots fairly consistent. But also the changes in the environment,
Like when you walk up and you're placing your supporder
in a particular tree and you you know, take a
particular path, all of a sudden there's broken limbs that
are stuffed up, almost blatant in your way up in

(40:45):
a position where you have to step into to get
to the recorder. I've actually had some of that documented,
and a boulder that I a boulder mound is actually
pretty close by to one of these things like I've
describe before. And there are a number of different good
sized rocks and heavy heavy rocks, and one of these

(41:06):
boulders actually recently just got moved and got moved about
thirty feet away, and so I've been waiting for this
to happen to try to replicate it. And I was
able to doctor myself attempting to pick up this rock
and walk it back to where it was supposed to be.

Speaker 9 (41:22):
And and this thing is heavy, heavy, heavy, I was
unfortunately unable to get it back over there, but to
show that a senior person is not able to lift
this heavyweight and.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Carriot over there. So I, you know, it's this escalation
of things that are happening in this particular ERAa that
I'm very excited for able to document. So there are
a number of areas that me in the group research
and like to go to, and there is a particular
area that has a number of sightings that we had

(42:01):
been working for a while. But this one particular night
I was out trying to get just you know, out
there at nighttime researching in the field and went onto
the side woods, and it was over by another sighting,
actual spot where someone had seen one. And I was

(42:23):
pretty much wrapping up, thinking nothing was happened, blabbering away
on the go pro, and all of a sudden, I
hear this knock in this vocal response, and I was
able to capture that it was on the other was
on the other side of this field, in this woodline.
So I went across the field as quickly as I could,

(42:45):
got to the edge of the woodline and waited, figuring, well,
I might hear more stuff. I did a little response,
and I waited an hour and nothing else happened. And
I was thinking, okay, well, getting ate up by bugs,
and I'm just gonna go in my car and kind
of be lazy and set the audio recorder on top

(43:06):
of the car and go to sleep. It was still
kind of chilly out there. It was February, but it
wasn't really snowing out, but it was a little chilly
out I didn't feel like making a fire and roughing it. Yeah, yeah,
it was definitely February, and so so I don't think
the bugs are out there that time. That was February
of last year because we had gone camping after this,

(43:30):
but we so I put there auto recorder on top
of the car to be lazy, and for the next
thirty minutes nothing happens. But after that there are knocks
that are able to be picked up on the auto recorder,
and for the next two and a half hours, there

(43:51):
are thirty seven knocks that are recorded. And these knocks
are at various sound levels and dense, I would say,
like power levels of being smacked against something. And there
are like double knocks like knock knock, and there are
a couple of triple knocks where something fast rapidly taps

(44:15):
smacks the tree and three successions tap tap, tap, and
it sounds like, you know, pretty dense enough that you know,
if I was outside of the car, I probably would
have heard this stuff, but I actually ended up passing out.
But it sounds pretty happy, like you know, someone's out
there with a baseball bat smacking these trees, and you

(44:39):
can tell that it's farther away sometimes and then it's closer.
And so after discovering that, we actually went camping out
there that was rough in it and it wasn't snowing out,
but it was so cold out and I slept out
there in the mylar blanket underneath the tarp with a
little Dakota whole fire. And unfortunately, nothing else happened that

(45:04):
particular time other than the continued audio research that's been
coming out there, which is wood knocks and potential vocalizations.
But unfortunately, when you're we do an auto recordings in
researching and trying to figure out what's going on, you
really need to know all the animal sounds and potential sounds.

(45:26):
And most of the time when you hear stuff, you
you know, unless you can really determine it's really good
quality of what it actually is, you know, most of
the time I personally chalk it up to just nature
and stuff. You know, it's undetermined. So but it's a
promising area that we continue to research and are happy
to take other people out to. Actually it's one of

(45:49):
the spots that we're going to be going to after
our conference. So in this other area I like to
go to often. Another researcher and myself I went out
to the spot and she was we were more out
there for kind of paranormal well, she was out there
for the more paranormal stuff, and so we were tagging

(46:14):
along in this spot and nothing was really happening. We
actually walked down this trail into this field and I
had my night vision camera that I had just got,
and she was walking up in front of me a
couple a couple of paces and seeing what she described
was this small almost like well, at first what she

(46:38):
said was like this furry like gorilla monkey thing that
crawled into the woods. And we went over there and
looked and stuff, but she said that it was this small,
not very tall, almost like a very juvenile maybe I
mean three d four feet the most, I think is
what she was describing, and it walked into the woods,

(47:02):
and we were walking over there here and stuff. And
as we were walking the four corners and kind of
like counterclockwise fashion, we get to this point and I
start seeing this light above the trees and I'm trying
to film that, and all of a sudden, she's in
front of me. She freaks out and says, something just

(47:23):
touched me. Something just touched me, and something had like
physically grabbed her. She had demonstrated on me like fasically
grabbed her shoulder. And I'm literally right there in front
of her and nothing, nothing was there. And so that
was kind of freaky because I was looking at this

(47:43):
like almost UFO light above the trees that we couldn't
figure out, and that went away. Of course, when I
you know, looked back at towards the tree line after
focusing on this situation, the light was gone. And this
area has produced a number of you know, odd things,
and I've actually got a number of reports out of

(48:04):
there where you know, back in the early nineties, the
boy boys and boys going up around there basically went
out and seeing an ORB in this area and they
ran back to the house and we're looking out the
window and seeing a sasquatch in the tree line walk

(48:24):
down the tree line on the edge of their back
property of the back backyard. And this is a this
is a farmer now and had no idea about bigfoot
or anything like that until I kind of mentioned then
he's like, you know what, I had this. I remember
I had this. You know, he told me the story

(48:46):
and not a person who would lie. So we tend
to go to that area often. This area again was
out with that female and of researching, and we actually
came across and was able to document this eye shine
who walked up this trail, who walked back down and
all of a sudden she's hearing something and we get

(49:07):
up in there and there's this eye shine behind behind
this tree, and we're looking at it and staring at
it staring at us, and I believe or start doing
my native American calls to it. But Greeting ended up
walking over there and scattered away and actually could hear
it going through the woods. You know, it was kind

(49:31):
of intense and stuff for the female, you know, as
as it is for anyone actually, you know, it's pretty
intense to you know, kind of be around these creatures
and see them in the woods watching you, and like
most animals would run away and would be scared almost
instantly before you're even able to get a look. Most
of the time, these creatures, you know, almost have no

(49:55):
problem getting right up next to you and watching you
and patiently waiting for you to walk down on the
trail past them. And it seems like from these experiences,
seem like they get very close and I had no problem.
So so that's what we've been doing pretty much lately,
and stuff is busted out. The thermal's doing some night investigations.

(50:18):
I haven't been successful in that yet. But this passive
audio research is really a big thing. And what I've
noticed for the most part is it almost seems like,
you know, when I'm getting this different stuff happens like there,
I have a recording of a rock in the middle
of the night after hearing you know, there's tree knocks

(50:41):
and there's stuff around it. Almost it's almost like these creatures,
know the auto recorders out there. I've actually had a
rock being thrown at the tree that the recorder's in
and it bounces down down the tree and hits the
ground and you can tell a thud like someone through
it at the tree. And so I set the recorder

(51:02):
out there and it's running NonStop and you can clearly
hear me walking away. And usually you know, starts stuff
starts to pop off between eight and two am in
the morning, and usually around in this one particular spot,
around ten o'clock eleven o'clock in twelve is when it

(51:24):
almost seemed like again, something comes up the recorder and
almost starts tapping on it, tap tap, rustling stuff around,
and there's this what I call the og sound because
I've heard it so many times, I can't figure out
what it is. I'm not sure if it's the bug

(51:44):
or a tree, but it only happens in this one location,
at this particular tree that has a bunch of vines.
But it sounds like this gurgling, a gurgling sound that's
like running down the tree almost. It's this weird it's
a weird sound. So I got a couple interesting things

(52:09):
that we're working on. And with rocks being placed recently
the other day this week, actually a piece of concrete rock,
so like a concrete foundation, was placed on the trail
where I have to go get my recorder in the

(52:30):
middle of the woods where there's no concrete foundation to
be found in that particular area. That I would say
that I know of it, and that is it's something
that is placed it almost in an obvious fashion for
a person to notice. And it's the same thing that

(52:50):
I've been experiencing for all these years. Is this manipulation
the stuff that they placed on trail systems for almost
us to notice, you know, it's this weird thing where
or you know, how would they notice? How would they
know if we're going to notice a rock that's placed

(53:10):
on the trail system without actually sitting around and watching
for someone to walk by and you know, pick it
up or move it, or in my case a number
of times walking down the trail system and walking back out,
there's fresh sapling broke in it's middle of the trail,

(53:32):
or there's this rock. Or recently this year during the spring,
I was walking down a trail system and walking back
same at that trail system that no one passed me by,
there is a green water bottle on a log right there,

(53:53):
plain as day. But it wasn't there when I walked
down this trail before this before, and I documented that,
and it's plain as day. It's a green water bottle
that's sitting right there to be noticed next to the
trail on a lot that it was not there before.
And I've had this happen going back up north to

(54:16):
that spot where we had the encounters with a big
group from the last show, driving the car up, driving
the car back down, there is this broken sapling branch
with leaves across the trail, and I got to get
out and move it. And I lean up against the
tree figuring out if we'll move again, I'll definitely know.

(54:37):
And I think it's a lot of little subtleties that
they'd like to do where just like when me and
Jason had the encounter and they had the three broken
sticks in the middle of the trail where our heads
were going to bump into that wasn't there before. It's
almost like they want us to kind of notice these
things and they get kind of curious. I believe as

(55:00):
a researcher when you're you're out there engaging in research,
because it's actuity that a lot of humans don't really do.
You know, when you're camping and you're fishing, you're hunting,
you're doing whatever, that's not engaging them directly. But when
we're researching and we're noticing this stuff and we're moving it,
we're documenting and taking pictures, you know, I think they're

(55:24):
noticing that and they just what they know what we're
out there doing and we're making these calls, we're trying
to call out to them and doing all these things.
It really does seem like they will make changes in
the environment. You know, for researchers or anyone else who's
noticed them in the area to find and like I said,

(55:48):
for them to be able to figure out who's who's
moving the stuff or who's noticing it. They have to watch,
and I think they do. They set up new trail
heads and where people are parking, and they will sit
up where people are parking to watch how many people
are there, who's there? Who do they recognize? You know,

(56:08):
because if it's Bob with the dog walking down to
his favorite trail system, well it's pretty predictable where Bob's
gonna most likely go. So we don't have to worry
about Bob going over off the trail over here because
he's never done that. So I think they get really
used to people and they're set routines, and when US

(56:28):
researchers are out there doing something that's outside of the box,
it does peak their curiosity. And another thing that I've
noticed is, you know, it seems like the people you
go out with really does affect the outcome and situations
that you're in, because I mean, I I just think

(56:48):
it's my opinion that you know, some people who go
out there and are you know, angry or mad or
you know, are not sober and out there drunk and beligerent,
and you know, I don't I don't think they they
want to interact with those kind of people, you know,
And I think they test people to see how they're
going to react. I guess they're going to start shooting

(57:09):
through the woods for no reason. You know, it's I
headed an individual. I don't want to go around and
if someone's really scared and stuff and about pee themselves,
well they might get a kick out of it. But
it really seems like when they come across researchers or
people who are not scared and very curious and want

(57:31):
to interact, that piques their curiosity and opens up this
avenue of interaction where you know, they probably don't get
to have very much often, and that's even if they
want to interact with people. So I like, I try
to explain, is this calm interaction, this friendliness, this body

(57:54):
language and everything to help us show that we're kind
of friendly, we don't mean harm, and you know, we
want to try to commune, you know, at their pace
and at their level because you know, we don't want
to force anything. I think that eventually we will have
more interaction to be able to caught on camera, like
them showing themselves at daytime, you know, and and them

(58:15):
doing these things that we're able to capture. So so
that's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to go
out there and have a lot of fun. Nothing more
than that, just doing our big just doing the bigfoot stuff.
So you can find me and my crew at the
Lost Scripteds Conservatory YouTube page. We have the Facebook page

(58:36):
and the Facebook group, and also we're having the Michigan
Bigfoot and dog Man Conference in Mason, Michigan September twenty
six from noon to six and then afterwards we're having
camp out in a well known bigfoot area and some
of the areas where we actually talked about some of
these sightings. So we're going to take a couple of

(58:58):
people out and have lots of fun. I hope to
actually have encounters of course get it on film. So
with that, I hope everyone has a wonderful night.

Speaker 10 (59:09):
Well that's it for tonight show. If you've had a
big Foot siding and would like to be a guest,
please go to my Bigfoot Siding dot com and let
us know. Thanks for listening, have a great night.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Seen a bunch of run down no horse towns where
the church is the backbone, lows and the Bow and
the Fasting melodies coove in, but the bomb Man rose
with a roos run deep beyond the nose.

Speaker 4 (59:35):
Of the busy streets with the songs of the southa
su then.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
I'm mean, I hear the promp pot picking down home rhythm,
bringing that ad a run from Banjung music. Yeah, the
sound of a memory brings me back to the bluegrass
playing the Madadi jack.

Speaker 11 (01:00:01):
It's become many been.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Through it, getting through the tea on scrubs and Skaggs
bucking name bears through this Tennessee jams.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
There's no the way that I do it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
And I hit the bum boat picking down on rhythm,
bringing out that over run from Benjong music.

Speaker 12 (01:00:25):
Yeah, someone going backwards backwards and double tip.

Speaker 11 (01:00:31):
Faking and the sword and the strumming looking tuk staff.
There's nothing in the strumming now country boy living form,
And I hit a bom boat picking rhythm, bringing us
that all from from then.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
Using the city laugh drowsed me while on the two.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Music cars rushing by with the bastes on the stereos
to me, and I hear the brown board.

Speaker 11 (01:01:09):
Picking down on them, bringing nuts run from.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
Bunch of music.

Speaker 12 (01:01:16):
Yeah, something going backwards backwards and double tim picking in
the sword and the strumming look tucky star because they
strumming now country boy living.

Speaker 11 (01:01:30):
In a get a bad boy picking down rhythm, bringing
us paddle.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
From the best room. Mcdollo back was backwards a.

Speaker 11 (01:02:02):
Double town packing and the sould in the strumming, hooking
Tuck his time because the the d these trummen now couse.

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
You both leaving.

Speaker 12 (01:02:10):
And I hit a bout ports picking Dobro.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
The machick and botswin Mama's best sweet tea.

Speaker 12 (01:02:16):
Kind of sounds that all round the bag music