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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, you there, thanks for tuning in.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You're ready for another episode of my big Foot sighting? Right, then,
let's do this.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Seen a bunch of run down, no hoose towns with
the church at the backbonels and the bow and the
pastoring melodies, cove in with the bomb man rose with
the roofs, run deep beyond the nose of the busy streets,
with the songs of the South of su Then when
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I hear the prompt pot picking down home rhythm bringing
that I don't run from Benjum music.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, my big Foot sightings are why I started to
research them. So when I was six years old, my
dad pretty much in introduced me to the concept of
Bigfoot and Sasquatch. He told me about the Patterson film
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that he actually watched and seen in the movie theaters
when he was a kid. And there was a bunch
of different shows and stuff over the years that we
would watch about ghost to UFOs, and of course Bigfoot
was always the most prominent in my mind and the
one I always latched onto the most. But at six
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years old, it was over at my grandma's house, was
my dad and I think we were just doing some
chores and mowing the lawn and stuff, and at the
end of it, we were wrapping up and I started
running down the trail just right next to the house
where it would be and then this trail would go
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down the property line and stuff and actually would lead
out to some railroad tracks. But I remember, you know,
you would walk up and maybe fifty feet there was
a couple of pine trees, and another fifty feet there
was a grove of different kind of smaller pine trees.
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But in between these two trees which you would go
on to the trail. I remember as I was walking
over there, I actually seen a sasquatch cross from tree
to tree and got a pretty good look at it.
For six years old, it's still burnt into my memory.
And I instantly started calling for my dad and ran
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and got him, and he was actually on the front
porch just right there, and of course he went down
there and investigated and he didn't see anything, and of
course kind of just told me to don't worry about
it's your imagination, you know, kind of knock it off
type of thing. But I was, you know, over the
years of stuff, you know, always thinking back and looking
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back at it. Even now I'm very adamant that I
seen what I seen. I seen a sasquatch cross between
these two pine trees and stuff, and I turned around
and booked it. So I'm not sure what exactly it
did after that, but it wasn't more than fifteen twenty
seconds before my dad walked down there to investigate. And
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that's what really kind of said it and stuff, I
guess at that age. More videos, more TV shows on
History Channel and sci Fi actually had it was called
Sightings or Sightings Acts, a nice show about aliens and
all that different stuff, but Bigfoot again was always on there.
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And skipping a couple of years and stuff, we moved
a couple of different places and was actually out in
the countryside and my mom had passed away, so at
thirteen and stuff, we actually had just moved to this
new place out in the country away from the city
and stuff, and I started going out in the woods
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a lot, you know, to clear my mind mostly, but
also to you know, always look for Bigfoot, because I
was on the back of my mind at the very least, so,
you know, had I kind of had a routine going
where I would, you know, go out during the day,
but go out at nighttime, and I would set out
to go outside my house and go to these sidewoods
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and adjust my eyes to the darkness so I could
be able to see. You know, that takes about twenty
thirty minutes. And then I would cross this road and
go to this main section of what I would call
different microhabitats of vegetation and you know, a overgrowth bushy
area or overgrowth farmland and leads to some hardwood pines
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that leads to a creek that goes into a swamp,
and just different types of environment and beautiful landscape and stuff.
And so while being out there and stuff, I found
a footprint and stuff but wasn't quite sure, and other
things that happened where you know, weird feelings and stuff.
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But this particular night, I decided to skip going into
the side woods to adjust my eyes, and I just
crossed the road and paralleled the road that went up
to this gravel pit, and then I would cut on
over the left and hook into the main areas where
I wanted to go at nighttime. So I crossed the
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road and I start walking twenty yards parallel on the road,
and I hear a little commotion going on and I'm
just thinking, oh, it's a deer. You know, at that point,
I jumped dozens of deer and even got chased by
a skunk at night time and stuff, So there was
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It wasn't anything major. And I walked twenty more yards.
I heard it again, and I believe I made a
low whoop call the first time. I heard it very quickly,
just two hundred yard radius. That would hear it. It's
not echoank, it's not call blasting. So when I walked
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twenty more yards and stopped and heard it again, I
made another low whoop, and again, this is the opposite
of kind of call blasting. You're kind of just shortly
blasting this zone of one hundred and two hundred yard
radius at the most. And I listened, nothing happened, And
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I continue to walk because I've just starting out in
my night been doing this a while, and the only
thing I had with me was a walking stick. Usually
I would probably have my boy knife and a walking
stick with that particular time, I guess I didn't have it.
So I walked twenty more steps. I'd go down this
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little and bake me in in a kind of around
this thicket because it was flooded, and I hear all
of a sudden, this burst of commotion that comes down
on the side woods next my house. It comes down
the embankment, and I hear across the road really fast,
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bipedally one two, three, three steps, very quick pause, and
then a splash, And this is exactly what I heard.
And it dashed towards me, stopping in the thicket, probably
thirty feet away, I would say, And it was a
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half a moon to a full moon, very bright out.
I did not see this creature and stuff, you see
the thicket moving and stuff. But it all happened so
fast it was almost instant. But what I recognized almost
instantly was the locomotion of the bipedal movement acrossing the
road and dashing. You know, deer don't make that kind
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of sound, and there's nothing bigger than a deer out there,
and it's certainly not a person time doing that. And
so when I stopped and stood there, I raised my
walking stick up diagonally to kind of shield myself. And
you know, the first ten seconds I was waiting for,
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you know, pretty much to die or something to happen.
And as the seconds clicked ticked by, what seemed like minutes,
you know, thirty seconds. A minute went by, two minutes
before I actually walked away. But after about twenty seconds,
I started to kind of lean back and forth as
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if to you know, kind of show it. I can't
I couldn't see it, you know, like I'm trying to
look over here, and I'm trying to look over here,
I don't know, just to kind of show that I
don't actually see it. And then I finally decided that,
you know, I got to go back to my house,
right put the walking stick back down. I turned, and
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I remember taking a deep breath and walking, because you know,
that leap of faith of just turning and walking from
something that's right there that dashed up to you. I
circled back up and around with the gravel a bit.
My head was turning back and forth, looking at everything,
trying to figure out if this creature was following me.
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I figured if I circled around the field into this
brushy area, I could I would be able to hear it,
you know, if it was going to come next to
me and stuff after what I would do. But if
I felt I felt like if I walked on the road,
it could it could come after me a little bit
quieter and I might not be able to see it
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and stuff. So I went left, and I circled all
the way back to my house and I walked in
the door, and I didn't. I didn't go back in
the woods for you know, two months, at nighttime especially,
but you know, slowly during the day I would I
went back out, and then at nighttime I went back
out and would have friends and stuff, and we would
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always you know, kind of hang out and do some
stuff out there and walk around and never really tell
them we were big footing. But it was always in
the back of my mind that this, you know, happened
in the same exact area, and that that cemented that
these creatures were real, that you know, I wanted to
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research them even more. And once I pretty much got
over that fear of you know, almost being devoured or
killed or you know whatever, nothing happened. So I figured, well,
you know, how many times have I been out there
and nothing's ever happened. So he just continued just to
go out. And there was a couple of other times
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where in this particular section where I actually found a track,
and nighttime and stuff, it seemed like there was one
around me right there, and you know, it's very hard
to describe the kind of sounds of the sneaking around
that they do, and so at the time, you know,
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I wasn't quite sure, but based on further experiences, I'm
pretty confident that that was one of those times that
they were sneaking around, or what I call the bigfoots
are slinking around because they're standing up, but they're also
going on all fours and what is described as spider
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crawling and stuff, and that diffuses the body weight of
the creature. Took four contact points. Was also leaves parcel
tracks because depending on how their hands and fingers are
bent and stuff, you can have half of a track,
and then if their mid tarseled break is bending that way,
you might have half of a foot track on all fours.
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So it's really hard to find a good solid foot
track if they're on traveling on all fours most of
the time. So that cemented it. I ended up moving
from that location to other locations where I would, you know, research,
and came across one time glowing red eyes in the
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tree line and stuff. And of course when I walked
out there, there was nothing that I could figure out
was making it. And I didn't have a light to
shine on anything, so I wasn't reflecting off anything that
I was doing. In a different area around there, I
came across a huge thicket and stuff that I just
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couldn't get through. It was on this creek bottom and
there were so many logs and stuff that I just
I kind of went around it, and then I just
busted through this viny luckily it wasn't thorns but viny
patches and stuff, and came across this little area where
something had killed a deer and was sitting up and
had been there while it looked like it was a
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bend of the creek and it was shoved up in there,
you know, like a little cove where something was sitting
and stuff. But other than the crazy feelings and of
being washed in that area, unfortunately, nothing has happened there.
But I ended up moving to in with my girlfriend
and her parents actually, and they had a piece of
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property in the countryside, and they actually have a power
line that goes through there, you know, with a huge
cut into it, and it goes miles and miles and miles
and miles and miles across the couple counties, and you know,
they they never believed it. Bigfoot and stuff. Actually, you know,
growing up there, it was at a generational kind of
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I wantn't say homestead, but the father grew up there,
and of course they they grew up there, and Bigfoot
was the last of the things that could ever be
on this property or in Lower Michigan or you know,
anywhere populated area. You know. I started doing my thing,
started noticing some tree structures that I sticks that were
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placed in odd places that you know, the other day
that wasn't there. I mean, we didn't have a storm,
we didn't have high wind. I started building a hunting
line of stuff with wood and string wire and stuff.
And this one time I heard while building it, I
was I heard a five hundred pound owl hooting at
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me ooo ooo. And it was it was pretty close,
you know, fifty yards, sixty yards, you know, no more
than one hundred yards. And I ran rushed over there,
and I didn't see anything and hear anything. I thought, man,
that was that was? It sounded like a five hundred
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pound owl. I mean, and I've heard howls over the
years and stuff past past that, and I've never heard
that heaviness ever in an owl sound vocalization again. So,
you know, some weeks go by and stuff, and I'm
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still out there kind of putting the finishing touches and
adding the tarp, and it's about dinner time. You know
that the parents are girlfriend's parents are gonna, you know,
let me know when there's dinner and stuff. And you know,
she's off working, so she's not there. But my girlfriend
wasn't there, but so you know, they were gonna let
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me know. And so if I'm out there working and
all of of a sudden, I hear I hear this,
uh a bigfoot call, this big foot whoop, a big
lawn drawn out, and I'm thinking, oh, man, they're just
they're playing a joke on me. They're kind of funny,
you know, and it's really loud, and I know i'll
hear it again, and I'm just like, man, and you know,
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kind of happy and joyful that you know they're they're
kind of entertaining it a little bit. And so I
walk up there and say, hey, it's the dinner time.
You guys call for me, and they're like, no, no,
what are you talking about? And I was like, you guys,
you guys didn't go out there and you know, make
a big foot call and call me in for dinner.
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And they the expressions were like no. And these were
the people. If they were, you know, messing around and stuff,
they definitely would have came out and said, oh yeah,
that would have been us. But completely the opposite and
no reason to lie, for any reason to especially about
a little bigfoot stuff. Uh. And it was one of
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those things like, Okay, it's like maybe there's some stuff
going on here. And I started finding more manipulation and uh,
actually started recording stuff on an old iPhone, old old
iPhone at the time. And I started so in winter.
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It was fall, I believe the frost had just kind
of started to happen and stuff. So it was really
hold and frosted out, but not a lot of snow
on the ground. And I decided to practice my fire
building skills and use a magnesium rod and use different
kind of stuff to build a fire and actually camp
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out there. And there's some side woods in the in
the back property and actually pretty close to the house actually,
and I started building the fire and as I got
it just about going, I heard this massive tree snap
just crack loud like a gunshot go off, and I
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jumped up. They stood up, and I as I looked
down the tree line in the forest and stuff, I
seen this kind of like silhouette. And the moon was out,
so it kind of had like a little silver kind
of a tint to it. But I seen a silhouette
of an up right running creature of some sort. I
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didn't get a good positive look to say, you know,
it was a shaggy haired bigfoot, but it was a
long lived, tall kind of a humanoid creature that broke
a stick. So I, you know, I seen that, and
I'm like, okay, And I just continued to get the
fire going because again, you know, nothing's crazy has happened,
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really right, not in danger. And I sat out there
and I waited and I made call again low whoops.
So I'm not letting the whole neighborhood everyone in all
the houses out on your road don't know that. You know,
I'm doing bigfoot stuff. But nothing ever happened again at
that particular night. The next morning, during the daylight, I
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went out and looked at where that giant limb had broke.
I actually found it, and it was the size of
my thigh. Fresh just snapped and laying right there, and
I tried to look for tracks and stuff, but I
couldn't find any tracks. So I definitely knew that there
was what I assumed was sasquatch on that property. You know,
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probably had been there for a while, especially because no
one really believes the sasquatch usually right there and they're
never really looking for sasquatch in their backyard and any
of the lower Continental states really because we've punkeered everything,
but this one particular time basically the last event on
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that property before moving away and now going over to
the gram over there as much. But I was actually
Kyoe hunting, just bought a rifle two two three, both
action savage, and I was gonna go out Kyo hunting,
had my setup. I shot a couple of possums with
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the twenty two because they were getting in the trash
causing a nuisance. And but the coyotes were causing a nuisance,
and the neighbors even we're talking about it, of course
had full permission and small dogs and cats on the
property and stuff. You know, it was a big deal.
We started getting a male and female on trail camera,
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so with our intent was to get rid of them
before they get the cats and stuff. So I seen,
actually seen a possum and try to try to shoot
it and miss because it was like ten feet away.
I just shot over it because the russle wasn't sighted
and properly for that close distance. But I was I
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would saying, get well, there goes my night. My my
hunting's over with because I just scared every single thing
that's gonna probably be around. And so I was like,
all right. I started walking back up to the house
and I am literally next to the house, you know,
next to the sidewoods right here, and I hear the
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neighbor yell at me, and I'm just like, what the heck, man,
why are you yelling at me? You know, hunting coyotes,
you know their nuisance, like I thought everyone knew about it.
And then I hear it again, and you know, it
didn't sound right I heard. When I heard it the
second time, I was like, oh, he's not I heard
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it the third time and instantly realizing he's not speaking English.
He's mumble yelling at me. He's he's going and I
can tell it. The dude sounds like a guy, but
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he's not speaking English. He's mumble yelling at me, and
he yells again five times, and he's sounds like, you know,
I'm I'm right next to the house. The you know,
the neighbors is right there. There's a house across across
the road, and there's another house right there across the road.
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It's a little farther down, a little farther down. But
you know, he's as I hear this, you know, I
you know, I'm quiet listening, and he yelled. He yelled
at fifth time, and he started coming closer. And he's
yelling and when he basically classes the road and starts
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to uh get closer, but paralleling. While he's paralleling on
the other side of the woods, coming to he's exactly
parallel to me. And as he's yelling, I hear this
female jump in and start talking and bickering back and forth,
and she's going crazy. He's they're bickering back and forth
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like a married couple. And she's making this fluty bird
song kind of sounds and tones. She's and you know,
kind of like samurai chatter, but it's very it's a female,
clearly a female. And why my impression as this is happening,
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super fast again, and they're coming and trying to They're coming,
and they parallel until they get all the way parallel
to me and they stop. They're quiet, but before that
they're backering back and forth, talking right. And the male
is going back and forth and it's almost like you
bump into a guy at the bar or something, and
he turns around and he's about to show you what's
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up because you made a man. And his wife's dragging him, saying, no, Bob,
don't bob. He has a gun, Bob, and you're gonna
get in trouble. Bob. It's not worth it. It's not
worth it. That is the emotional impression that I got. This.
This is a guy that I'm hearing, and this is
a woman. And they're going back and forth just exactly
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like that. And so when they get paralleled to me
one hundred yards out, they go quiet. And for the
next fifteen minutes, I hear what I describe now as
the bigfoot slinking through the woods or sneaking through the woods, slinking,
and I hear little little russell here, little twig. You
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hear him coming closer, and they're taking their time until
I feel, you know, this heavy presence where it's it's
just like I can't stand anymore. You know, I haven't
feed myself, but I am, you know, feeling the heaviness
of oh my gosh, I probably should go inside right
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now because this is a bad situation. And that's exactly
what I did. And again that turning and walking away
from the creatures that you know are right there. I
made it inside and I made sure to be armed
in the bedroom because I had I didn't know. I
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didn't know what could happen. You know, I'm all night,
I'm kind of thinking, you know, what's gonna happen? And
I slapped the house or are they gonna make calls?
You know? Because he was mad at me, like I
spoiled his hunt. You know when I said, I thought
I spoiled my hunt, that's I guess what I did
to him, because the emotional he was, he was a guy,
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he was mad and he was letting me know, and
he was coming down there to really let me know.
And thank goodness, that female was pulling him back, telling
him to stop being extremely vocal because I'm not sure
exactly what his intent was before she convinced him to
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let's just go up to him or you know, they
quietly came up to me instead of belligerently, which she
was doing. So that was a very intense moment, and
looking back, that is probably the most intense moment I
had because I felt the emotional anger from the guy.
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And again, I'm kind of thankful that the female was
there to bicker back and forth. Like humans. It wasn't
an animal linguistic it wasn't a grunts, it was a
humanoid language. I didn't understand it. It was samurai chair mumbles,
fluty tones, all sorts of stuff, but it was a language.
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It was people that was definitely cemented. It was people,
a type of people, a humanoid person, these bigfoot So yeah,
that kind of put a little little damper and going
outside at night and I wouldn't say, you know, there
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was this heaviness feeling, but it felt a little bit
more on edge and stuff. But everything died down and
never never had any major incidents there at that particular
property again, and basically after I moved from there, it
was going to another location at the same time started.
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You know, I had the iPhone and had some interesting
stuff mostly just fremulia nimpulation and footprints and some recordings
of stuff that you probably couldn't really hear, although I
did have one recording I was able to save in
this new area of research here that I basically still
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research now. In the winter, I was walking along this
creek and hed start hearing tree knocks and started recording it.
And that was the end of winter. The beginning of summer.
Was working a job and my phone flew out of
the cup holder and went down, and my jug of
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water spilt all over it and destroyed it. So I
lost all all the stuff I had, and I was like,
you know, what am I going to do? How can
I prevent that from happening again? And I thought, well,
you know I can. I just thought, you know, I
just already had a YouTube account of just just upload
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the stuff there and that way to always kind of
be there and I wouldn't really have to worry about
save in space on a computer around a phone and stuff.
I could just transfer all my stuff there. And that's
really why I started the Lost Cryptids Conservatory, And that
was at the very end of twenty eighteen, because of
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the fact that I lost the evidence I did had
and didn't have, you know, the capacity to store everything
because that that fills up pretty fast. As everyone knows.
At the time, it was actually called the Lost Ones Conservatory,
and that was because, you know, the name did change.
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I think after about a year I made a couple
of different videos and breakdowns of interesting stuff that I
thought it was cool, and the Lost Ones Conservatory and
the Lost Cryptids Conservatory is basically the same premise. As
you know, there's all these cryptid creatures and Bigfoot and
locked and all these creatures that you know, the cryptids.
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You know, they're a mystery to us in modern man,
but in ancient times, you know, they had different names
for all these creatures and ghosts and the Boogeyman and
different weird stuff. You know, a lot of tribes and
people and cultures throughout the world and time the history
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of the world at different time periods have names for
these creatures. And so it's you know, the Lost Ones Conservatory,
and then they became Lost Cryptids Conservatory because I don't
really like the name and stuff. So you know, it's
almost like we have amnesia about basically everything in the
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ancient world and lost treasures and lost civilizations and all
sorts of stuff, and these cryptids. You know, it is
another thing added on where we've lost track of all
these fairy tales and mythology and what was real and
what wasn't what people actually were seeing. So my intent
was to go out there and still is just try
to get evidence and just post it on YouTube and
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for just people to see. And I don't try to
I don't try to do anything really flashly other than
just put the raw stuff out there, because what's important
to me is getting the best evidence you can and
having it in its raw form, you know, unedited with
spooky music added on, and just show it and if
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the evidence is good enough, it's going to stand on
its own, and that's what it's all about, in my opinion.
It's awesome doing the podcast, and I have my own shows,
and you know, you do see the documentaries and I've
been a part of that stuff too, and it's fun.
It's great, But at the end of the day, you know,
we're trying to find evidence of these creatures, potentially prove
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that they exist, you know, not at least not feel like,
you know, we're nuts and crazy and we're the only
one out there actually see these creatures. And it's like,
you know, come on, you know, I think there's a
lot of stuff in the community and stuff that gets
away from finding the evidence and actually researching and having
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the integrity that goes along with that and being professional
when you're out there, you know. So I was by
myself and I started hanging out and went to a
big Foot conference and it was the just went Blank
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with the name Phil Shaw, the late Phil Shaw here
in Michigan, Michigan researcher, not very well known and stuff,
but a local researcher up in West Branch. He put
on the West Branch, Michigan Bigfoot Conference and held it
for a number of years until he unfortunately passed away.
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So I went to a conference and Cliff Brackman was there,
and it was awesome, you know, and meeting everyone and
talking to everyone, and I met this younger fellow who
was there by himself, and you know, he was he
was cool, and we talked and introduced himself and his
name was James, and you know, so we kind of
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clicked and he asked me, you know, well, where are
you staying and stuff or you camped out somewhere here,
And so I took him back to my camp spot
and ended up blowing the blowing the axe a little
in the two thousand Chevy because of the rough terrain
and craziness of stumps in the middle of water. So
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that was an adventure. Nothing happened there, but being introduced
to James. This leads up to we started actually going
out here in Lower Michigan and went out to a
particular area that's kind of known for sightings in the
BFRO and historical sightings and a massive area, an area
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where lots of people go for recreational purposes and would
never think of Bigfoot, would ever be possible there. So
we're out there and first couple of times, you know,
we find some interesting maybe tree structures, Yeah, maybe it's
just nature. But the third time we were going to
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go out there together. The day before that happened, I
went to a different section of woods that I've never
been to. We weren't going to go there, but this
was kind of close to where I was at, and
I started walking and I found what I would describe
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as like, you know, these rock mounds. And I've found
a number of rock bounds, rock piles. You know, they're
sometimes there are eight by ten or sometimes they're twenty
by twenty radius of piles of rocks. They look like
rock mounds in the middle of the wood or on
top of hills or not really next to roads or
anything where you would think people or farms has you know,
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put them there, stacked them there. So I was looking
over there, and I started walking up these ridges and
down and I was gonna go up this hill and
it was pretty rounded and stuff. So it's kind of
like a I wouldn't say pyramid and stuff, but you know,
it kind of reminded me of almost like a pyramid
shape kind of a hill. And as I walking over there,
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I'm here, I hear something walking next to me, and
I'm looking and I'm actually filming, and I all of
a sudden, I don't see anything. I hear it again,
and it's distinctly walking. It's it's right there next to me,
twenty feet away, and I kind of, you know, get
a little spooked out for a second, and I'm just like,
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you know, it's it's probably a chipmunk, you know, I
just can't see it as a chipmunk running and run
around whatever whatever. I continue up this hill, well, and
I kind of feel, all of a sudden, I just
feel weird. I don't feel like I should go up
this hill anymore, and I should just turn back. And
so that's what I do. I listen to my instincts,
because over the years you learn to trust that, especially
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in this line of research. So I as I'm walking
and making my way back, I start hearing I start
hearing the footsteps again, and I'm looking and there's there's
nothing there, right, And I'm like, okay, okay, so I'm
just gonna walk faster, and I'm gonna go, you know,
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two hundred yards away. You know, no animal is gonna
follow me. I know it's definitely not a deer. I
can't see anything, but like, no rational animal is going
to keep following you through the woods. Most animals are scared.
They have evolved to be able to detect humans through
sounds and smells and just even by the bipedal movement
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of a human in the wood, animals can pick up
that and instantly know that that's a person and will
go the other way because we've hunted them. And so
I'm thinking, okay, well, if it's an animal, it's not
going to follow me, right, And I go two hundred
yards away, and I am being followed because I hear
these things, this thing following me, and so I'm walking
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away and I'm keeping hearing it at you know, I'm
not seeing it, but it's not super close. At this point,
I get into this kind of like more of a clearing.
It's kind of a grassy little patch, a grass patch
with no trees in it, and I'm thinking, okay, here
it is. I'm at the very end. And if I'm
filming and if I, you know, hear this thing walk
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up in here, I am going to get it, because
you know, it could have been in the brush. You know,
they could have been you know whatever, a raccoon, deer, whatever.
But at this point, I'm thinking, okay, I'm going to
get I'm going to see it. And it walks up
and then all of a sudden, I hear two of
them and they start going around me until they are
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at the nine and three o'clock position, and I am
filming and I don't see anything, and I'm thinking, oh, okay,
and I so I have to go back to my car.
I don't know what's going on. I get all the
way back to my car and I continue to film
and I'm hearing them, and there's this little hill, you know,
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seven feet and I go down to my car and
I hear these things walk right up, not on top
of the hill, but they're they're on the other side
to where you know, if a person was standing there,
I would be able to see it. I'd be able
to see them from his waist up and see nothing.
And so I got out of there. The next day
I went with James. Me and James went to a
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completely different area. Started the same area we had been going,
but we were pushing farther and farther and farther, and
we found we came across a down tree that we
couldn't explained. It was pretty awesome and like it was
blown apart. We basically discovered that it had been hit
by lightning and blown a huge chunk apart and burnt.
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And so we're looking at investigating and all of a
sudden we hear this knock damn And I was filming. Luckily,
this is filmed. This is on the YouTube. The previous
days video is also on the YouTube. So James is like,
can you hear that? It's like yeah, because I was
talking explaining what we found with the lightning strike, and
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all of a sudden we get this knock and I
go quiet and James like you hear that. It's like, yeah,
we just had a knock that came from over there,
so that was recorded. That's you know, awesome. And we
go over there, you know, you know, we don't see anything.
We kind of find more treating vanipopulation and we start
filming and the line of videos is multiple big footage encounters.
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In the last one I entitled Escalation, And this is
when me and James walked around, you know, we're kind
of seeing stuff and hearing a little little bit of stuff.
But we walk around the bend. All of a sudden,
we start hearing this grunt and we stop in our tracks.
And this is where I'm recording on a GoPro Hero
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seven black, brand new at the time, and we start
hearing more grunts and almost like a bart sound, but
it's far away. We're not like, okay, you know, you know,
it's weird. I stopped stop recording just for maybe twenty
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seconds because I wanted to pause it and stop and
then start up a new one. And we were talking
and walking. All of a sudden we heard me and
Jans heard this orangutang who It's almost like, you know,
you hear on the National Geographic when you're watching about orangutangs,
and I was like, I started recording again. It's like,
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you know, we just heard this orangutang moove on this ridge.
And we started walking on the bottom of this ridge
but paralleling it. We start hearing stuff and James got
really freaked out when we got on top of the bridge.
You know, we were here, we're hearing stuff, and he
starts calling out to them like, you know, hey, who's there,
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is anyone there, and he's freaking out and he's and
he's telling me, he's like, dude, I'm scared, Like we
got to get out here. Like he's like he's kind
of having like a little a little panic attack, and
he's calling out to him like, you know, we don't
you know, we don't mean any harm and stuff like that,
and I'm kind of I'm actually laughing at him a
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little bit, but also at the situation because I can't
believe this just happened to me the day before. I
can't believe this is happening now, and you know, recording
and stuff, and I was very excited, but he was
extremely not not okay, And so and this is where
it comes in professionally and having integrity. It's like, you
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got to think about people and their safety first. So
my first instant thought was, Okay, let's let's get James
out of here. Let's get out of here, you know,
and you know, maybe they'll follow us out. We'll get down,
get back onto the trail as fast as we can,
and then we'll just take the trail out and if
they follow us and they're doing stuff, you know, I'm
gonna record it. You know, it's gonna be awesome. And
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we get back on the trail and you know, nothing
else happens. We get we get out there, get back
to the cars pretty fast, you know, And oh man,
that was that was exciting and right there, and that
cemented me and James research buddies and going out and
I wasn't really in the Lost Cryptis Conservatory, but I
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had another researcher bugging me to he wanted to go
out and join, and so we started having a bigger
group and having a bunch of Michigan researchers together and
at one point I think we had like fifteen people
going out and stuff, going to different areas and having
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some stuff happened, but unfortunately, it's always seemed like I
was the only one recording, and so a lot of
that stuff is just stories and stuff. But we ended
up going up north on a nice, pretty big trip
and there was a good amount of us there in
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a particular spot we've we've never been, but one of
the he wasn't really a member, but one of the
people who was best friends good friends with James, and
they had found tracks and stuff and documented and made plaster,
made a styrophone, casts and stuff, and we had pictures
and we've talked about it in the live shows and great,
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pretty interesting, exciting. So we went out there to camp
out during the summer and had a big old RV
that we somehow got back in there. But it was
a good, big girl group, and weird stuff started happening
the when I was able to get out there, and
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stuff they people had seen like a glowing orb that
hit the size of a Chinese lantern that like had
flew up above the fires and stuff because they had
lit one of these Chinese lantern things up and it
was the size of it and it flew up right
up to it. I would say maybe it was fifty
forty fifty feet above above the fire flew up. They said,
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it flew up to it and then it zipped away
jew and so you know, they were pretty excited and
they said, you know, we were here and stuff, and yeah,
I'm thinking, yeah, okay, let's let's really get down to it.
And we started investigating the area, and there was a
place from a man who had passed away. He claimed
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that he's seen a female sasquat constantly walking through his
yard and walking looking through his windows and stuff, and
very adamant. He started calling her Sarah, very adamant. That
she was a female around there, and there was other
groups and stuff, but she would always, you know, And
he was out in the middle of like a trail
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system house. I'm not sure. I'm not sure how he
got that nice chunk of property, but there's cabins and
stuff out there, and he the very adamant stuff. So
we went there to investigate. He actually had passed away,
very unfortunately just before we basically went out there, just
a couple of months, but we still was able to
go out there. During a night investigation out there, we
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didn't come across anything, but the next morning we went
back out there and we split off and me and
James went out with another researcher circling around, and we
started hearing like a whoop, kind of a weird call,
and I actually again recorded it and it's on the YouTube.
Some older videos start hearing it, and we're like, okay,
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we're gonna split up. Let's go. We're gonna go. I'm
gonna go up down this trail and go up and around.
You guys can go down towards this little pond area.
And so we split off because I went towards where
the sound was coming from, and they went back down
to where we were originally going to go. Because pond
swampy area. I didn't hear anything. I was like kind
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of disappointed, actually, but they heard rock clacking and stuff
down where they were at, and then they came back
to where I was and told me, and we're getting
text messages, you got to come back to where we're
at because we're hearing something. And so like, okay, we're
doing that, and I'm talking to James and the other researcher.
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He kind of zips super fit, kind of briskly walks
because he wants to get to the action. So he's
he's kind of gone to me and James are just
taking our time because we're thinking, you know, if there's
something right here with us, you know, maybe it's going
to follow us again. And as I'm walking, I look
over to my left into the thicket and I see
this volleyball size orb and it was like a smoky
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gray fog color and I clearly seen it, and I
did a double look, and then it was gone. And
then I did this back and forth of like, okay,
well maybe maybe I could see it, and it was gone,
and James was right there and I was like, okay,
well that was that was weird. And again we're getting
text messages you got to come over here. Let's go.
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So we're walking over there and walking on this trail
system towards towards where the cabin's at, where all the
other group of people's or they're hearing something. And I
look over to my left again on this other trail system,
and I seen this silto weette of a upright walking
dark look like a sasquatch, quickly dart in between two trees.
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And I stop, and again I do back and forth
like did I just really see that? And I start
filming and I tell James go over there, run over there.
I was joking to James, like, hey, you run over there,
and he actually does. He actually runs over there and
gets to where the creature was basically at and he says,
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there's nothing here, and we all looked over there. We
didn't find out. We didn't find tracks, maybe from like impressions.
And at the same time, they're blowing up my phone
screaming at this point where you know, come over here,
very adamant, very heated words of getting over there quickly,
and I actually kind of get annoyed. I'm like, okay,
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what I relicious go over there. When we go over
there and they're explaining, oh my gosh, you know we
heard it sounded like, you know, something was over here
messing with us, making noises. And we actually did find
a footprint that looked like it. It was in moss
and stuff, so it was like printed in there and
it was staying like that and documented that, and so
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that was pretty exciting. We stayed out there, we walked around,
didn't nothing else happened, So like, okay, we went back
to camp and we started hearing stuff around camp and
there was this orb that flew up and it was
about baseball size around the fire and zipped away. I
think some of the other people had seen thought they
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had seen a UFO flying around. We had went out
through we heard something in this swamp, so we all
kind of went through this. It was a bog a
floating mat of vegetation, and it was soggy and all
sorts of bound house fun and basically inaccessible. I mean
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for uh, I mean we I think we went like
one hundred yards and it took like it felt like
twenty minutes or more just because getting stuck and not
exactly going fast. And so we went back to camp.
But we start hearing stuff and actually vocalizations and stuff
and the record I actually was recording with another researcher
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and it was like, hey, do you hear that? And
we picked up this little vocalization, this little I believe
it was like a little whoop, and you know, hey,
did you hear that? And I was like yeah, yeah, yeah,
we you know, we walked around and stuff we would
never never see anything. And then so that was pretty
exciting and stuff. And then we got carry Arnold will
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start doing the show The big Foot Odyssey and started
watching him and thought he was great and talking to
him and he started doing you know, the one to
sixty eight expedition, and the first one went completely under
and they wasn't able to go to Florida and they
went to where Cary Arnold had his first encounter. And
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so the next year they they were they started doing
the one sixty eight Florida Expedition one hundred and sixty
eight hours, a week long expedition in Florida in this
area where you know, Carrie and other people. Researchers were
very adamant that there are big foot there that you know,
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if we can get a collective of actual good researchers
there all at once for a whole week, with equipment
and stuff, you know, we'll be able to get these
creatures on film. And so that's what the one sixty
eight was was about, and I was able to be
a part of that. Brought a couple of Michigan researchers
down there. They were in the group and in the
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first night, you know, we went over plans and what
we're going to do and stuff like that, and I
think we had team leaders and stuff, but uh, I
don't know what happened the second day and stuff. But
basically the my my, my group, the people from Michigan.
I you know, I told carry like, hey man, we're
gonna go out. We're just gonna go do something right
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now at nighttime because no one else I guess was
going out that second night or.
Speaker 3 (52:24):
So.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
We went into this, uh to this location out there
that supposedly there, you know, there's there's where the Bigfoot were,
and we're walking around and we get out there and
it's like, oh, crap, man, I forgot I think I
actually forgot my camera or something. And then we had
I had to go back to the car. So me
and this other research went back to the car and
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these two others were started texting us and freaking out
that they're hearing something. And all of a sudden, Dave,
who was a retired federal agent, he basically a guy
like super sick and instantly was out of it sluggish,
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and the other researcher was dragging him up kind of
like pulling him to get him there, and he was like, dude,
there's there's there's freaking eye shine. There's red eye shining,
red eye shining. He got real sick. And this is
all the documentary and stuff. I didn't see anything or
hear anything. Of course, I mostly was making my way
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back and forth from the car when all that happened.
I came onto this situation of this guy is really
really sick, Camra guy's scared. His other researcher wants to
go out there by himself. And again, you know, you
have to make the call that people come first and
safety comes first. So I said, okay, we got to
get him back to camp and get him checked out.
Because there's medical people there with experience. We need to
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get him checked out. Make sure, you know, nothing bad
we're gonna happen, even worse than what is what he's
feeling right now. So we head back and tell everyone,
and he's checked out. He's good. A couple of things had,
other things had happened. The researchers, you know, started getting
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and experiencing some stuff at camp. We actually found a
footprint walking up and was able to cast that. The researcher,
one of the researchers from Michigan actually found it and
was able to cast it. And again it was on
the documentary, and there was other patches of footprint around
the fence. Line where it's almost like something had stood there,
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like watching the camp where we were all kind of
spread out, and it was a pretty good cast track
and stuff, and so that was on the video and
process of doing it, and I ended up we ended
up going to a whole different area miles and miles
away and where another person had walked a researcher flow research.
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I had one over there and went into this area
and like this animal exploded through the brush and jumped
into the water, started swimming and went under the water.
But went over to this island that's surrounded by water
and there's alligators in there, a lot of alligators with
a spot where we're at, And so that's where we
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went to go investigate. And I walked up upon a
three toed track actually, and it had three toes, it
was long, had the heel, and I actually casted it
and it was the fastest casting and fastest drying that
I could ever possibly do. And I took a kind
of a chunk of earth out of it just to
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have it underneath as it was still drying. And we
got it out of there and documented that. I still
have that cast, and it's a weird three toed foot
and I you know, some of that's reported down there
with some of these less digits in Florida. So we
get back and we're going to do some night investigation
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now and this particular it's called the four Corners, and
this researcher is very adam scared basically to go out
there at nighttime anymore because a lot of stuff has happened.
And so we went out there. We had a couple
of different people out there. I had we actually with me,
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I had Christopher Nowell and we were walking talking, and
the other group started on this other trail system and
we were going to meet at the four way intersection.
And so I'm with Christopher Nowell and we started hearing
started hearing these grunts and these vocalizations, and we're, you know,
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we're talking. I was like, you know, is that is
that some cows and stuff over there? You know, maybe
it's that's bullfrogs, And it kind of does sound like
a bullfrog, but then you know it again, it almost
was like following us as we started walking towards where
we needed to go. And at one point it was
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it was almost like you know, this, this thing's right
here in this bush line. It could possibly be these creatures.
And I got an apple out and I stuck my
hand up into these different bushes and waited for uh
something to take the apple. And I was filming a
night vision, a psionics colored night vision, and started filming
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and stuff, and me and Christopher, you know, we weren't positive,
but it's, you know, one of those maybes. It sounds
kind of sounds a little squatchy. But we make our
way back and meet up with the group and all
of a sudden, they're they're they're like, dude, this there's
some crazy just happened to us, and you're not gonna
believe it. And they're very adamant that they started hearing
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something like following them. And the one of the Michigan
researchers has a what he described as like the lost
sheep where he he goes slow and is at the
very end of the line of people and the back
stretched out, and he was very adamant that there were
stuff around him following him. And one of the people
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who was in the middle of this three man group
was kind of skeptical and he was just he just
showed up that day and was, you know, kind of
not really invited, but kind of you know. I talked
to carry and was like, hey, come on out, and
he h. He didn't really you know, he was out
there having fun but didn't really think Bigfool was real.
But apparently, and I've seen the evidence, something ran up
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quickly and smacked this huge cop flashlight like the old
fashioned ones that was a taser two and it smacked
it out of his hands and it flipped and broke,
and he was pretty you know, upset about it. He was,
you could tell, like something rattled him. And and they
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were filming this entire time somewhere on those hard drives.
I'm sure that footage because it didn't it didn't make
the first documentary. There was going to be another documentary
that came out, but unfortunately carry on or passed away
and stuff. So they're they're telling us the story, and Christopher,
you know, we're listening and we're like, oh man, you know,
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And so the Michigan researcher sits with me and talking,
and Christopher Nod goes with the other two and they
go right in the brush right in front of us.
They're walking, you know, fifty yards in this brush because
apparently the creature was on that side of the trail.
They're just walking around and see if something happens. I
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got the main camera. I'm kind of I'm just filming
and filming down the trail and stuff, and I'm talking.
I'm really just talking to Chad and I I turn
with the camera and I look, and the camera's pointing
at this direction. I see what comes out of the
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tree line is a humanoid creature that is crawling on
all fours and he gets up to the middle of the
trail and his head is looking forward. If you are
on all fours, bent as low as you could go,
looking forward, and then you twist your head and you
look to the left, and it looked right at me,
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and he's, you know, sixty feet away, you know, very close,
close enough that it was picked up on the camera
with the ir He looked right at me, turned in
like a bulldog, straight through those cactails and went straight
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to the other group of people. And I went right
over there to where you know where it went into
the brush, and I started going on the walking talking,
telling them like, hey, you know, there's there's things. This
thing just crossed the trail, and I probably sounded all
frantic and they probably couldn't even understand what I was
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saying at first, but I was telling them this thing
just across the trail. It's walking right next to you, guys.
It's right on you guys. And they're just like, over
the next couple of minutes. Yeah, we hear something walking,
but you know, I have a we don't see anything.
You know, it was probably a pig and stuff. And
I was I'm thinking, ain't no way, dude. I got
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it on camera and it where it came from was
where me and Christopher Nowell walked and thought we were
hearing stuff. It crossed the trail on the other side
of the brush line of the trail system. We just
walked like it was on the other side of the
brush where we had thought. And this creature was I
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would say no more than seven feet tall, maybe a
little bit less. It was spider crawling what people describe,
and it is a very fluid and weird looking movement
seeing this humanoid creature do it. But what I remember
the most is when it turned quickly and looked, snapped
its head just how it had fur, but like it
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wasn't long hair on the head, you know, not not
any five year o long hair going on. It was
actually very shortcut and you can see the roundness of
the head, but you can see fur, but it was
very short, almost like a you know, kind of like
a short haired dog or a short hair big dog
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and stuff. The fur wasn't really big and stuff, and
it looked looked, you know, slender. I wouldn't say it
looked like Arnold Schwarzenegger, but it looked very lengthy. And so,
I mean, we downloaded that and the next day we
played it on the big screen for everyone to see.
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You could see you could see this black thing come
out across the road, and it needed further enhancements, brightening
up the light to really bring that creature out. So
it was downloaded to that hard drive and you know,
still there waiting to be found. And then the last
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night that we were there, we uh Michigan crew again
split off, you know, a three man team, and we
went into this kind of a cypress grove or this
uh maybe they're like a flooded cedar kind of grove
or a flooded not familiar with the trees in Florida.
It was. It was a pretty weird experience with the
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different environment from Michigan to Florida and the bugs. We
were in this like flooded groves, this flooded tree grove
on a trail, and it wasn't flooded anymore. So we
were like at the very bottom and all these roots
were I mean, you could go underneath of, you know,
some of these trees and these roots and stuff. So
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we're looking for tracks and it's nighttime and one of
the researchers is doing is hanging back and he's hearing stuff,
and me and the other researchers are you know, I
thought we heard kind of something. But it's always like, oh,
maybe that's something, but most likely it's you know, it's not.
And these little what ifs or maybes, and they all
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add up eventually to something to something major. If there's
something major happens, you know, you can add those little
things up, especially if something follows you. And I start
recording on this night vision psionics and I walk right
up to this edge of this tree line and there's
this massive solid red eye shine, red eye glow right there,
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and I'm filming, and I get on my walking talkie
and I'm telling the other guys, hey, get over over here.
There's something right here and what I You know, this
all happens super fast, but at the same time a
lot of these encounters, it almost feels like time slows down.
So it happens super fast, but your adrenaline's rushing through
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your body and it slows things down. And I very
quickly when flashing this camera with the IR back and forth,
and to me it almost seemed like the creature could
sense or see the IR and was actually hid from it,
like a flashlight was shined on it. And this was
the I think was eight one hundred and forty nanometer
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or something. So very quickly I kind of go back
and forth like you can see the IR light because
I'm trying to experiment, you know, does it actually see
it or not? And it happens so fast. The other
researcher gets up here. He has a flashlight and all
of a sudden it dips out and I can't see
it anymore. I said, turn your flashlight, turn a flashlight off,
because I didn't have a flashlight on. I just I'm
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using the night vision and we're standing there and nothing
else happened, but it was filmed, and that was in
the documentary that's on the channel. So those are just
some of the experiences that I've had over the years,
and I have many more. I could probably fill up
another show, but the Loss Cryptis Conservatory can be found
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on YouTube. Mainly on YouTube, We're also on Rumble and
trying to do a little adventure on kick and we
also can be found on Facebook and the Facebook groups
and also as a page, and I try to keep
a schedule with the Lost Cryptids with a show. Usually
I'm on myself kind of just ranting away about bigfoot
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stuff in my opinions, and sometimes we have some good
discussions with other people coming on open mics and stuff.
But mainly the YouTube is where you can find me,
email me and stuff. I'm actually going to have a
Bigfoot in dog Man conference here September twenty sixth, and
that's going to be a Friday from noon to six pm.
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So it is a free event. I just asked that,
you know, you would go on to the ticket link,
website links that are out there and stuff and just
register so I know who's coming. But we're actually going
to have a free event this year. We've had this
event last two years and this is kind of a
way to spread the awareness of what's really going on
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basically in the back yards of Michigan residence, but all
around the country, you know where sasquatches are right up
on there. So we're going to have that. And the
dog Man is included in that because I actually had
a dog man siding that unfortunately we didn't get into.
Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
Well that's it for tonight show. If you've had a
big Foot siding and would like to be a guest,
please go to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com and let
us know. Thanks for listening, have a great night.
Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Seen a bunch of run down no horse towns where
the church is the backbone, loves and the bow and
the fastring melodies coove in that the bomb Man Rose,
where the roofs run deep beyond the nose of.
Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
The busy streets with the songs of the South of
su Then.
Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
When I hear the promp porch picking down home rhythm
bringing out id on run from Banjum music. Yeah, the
sound of a memory brings me back to the bluegrass
playing the Madadi Jack.
Speaker 5 (01:08:47):
It's become many been through it, getting through the deal
on scrubs and skags, booking name bears, thro this Tennessee Jams,
it's no the wa that do it, and I hear
the round board picking down on rhythm.
Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Bringing out pad o run from Benjong music.
Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:09:14):
Some of going backwards backwards and double tip poking into
the sword and the strumming look and tuck start. There's
nothing in the strumming out country boy living mom, and
I hear the bum boat picking down rhythm bringing us
put on from from.
Speaker 5 (01:09:30):
Men of.
Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
The City last trows me.
Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
While on the dune, miss cars rushing by with the
beasts on the stereos to man and I hear the
brown bout picking down on rhythm bringing nuts run from
ben Jo music. Yeah, summing gallop back words back, what's
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a double tub giving in the sword and the strumming
looking Turkey stars.
Speaker 6 (01:10:11):
There's the strumming down cuts your born living. I'm gonna
hit the bum boats picking rhythm bringing us.
Speaker 7 (01:10:20):
Battle from the past, summing gallop back words back onson,
(01:10:48):
double tub getting in the sword and the drumming looking
Turkey star because the strumming down cuts your born living.
Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
When I hear the bum boats picking dab bras.
Speaker 6 (01:10:59):
The rage in botswing Mama's best sweet tea kind of
Speaker 7 (01:11:02):
Sound run the medal music