August 21, 2025 • 74 mins
Imagine what it would be like to have a clan of Sasquatch living on your property. Now, imagine what it would be like to know that they had a nursery on your property too. For most of us, it would be difficult to wrap our minds around that. For one of tonight’s guests, however, that’s reality. You see, Neil and his wife bought an overgrown property, in rural Georgia, because they wanted to be as close to nature as possible. Well, they got more than they bargained for. After moving into their new home, on the property, Neil started taking the land back, to tidy the property up. After doing that, things started happening he couldn’t explain. Then, it became clear to him what was behind all of the strange things he and his wife had been experiencing. They realized that they had Sasquatch living on their property. After the discovery, 4, experienced Sasquatch investigators came out to his property to have a look around. The 4 investigators who came to his property are Mark Newbill (the lead investigator), Scott and Sheila Granger, and Nathan Robinson. Mark Newbill produced a documentary focusing on Neil and the experiences he’s had at his property. Scott, Sheila, and Nathan operate Squatch-Fishing Outfitters which is a company, based in Georgia, that leads guided fly-fishing and Sasquatch expeditions. On tonight’s special episode of the show, Neil, Scott, Sheila, and Nathan will be talking about their experiences and findings. We hope you’ll tune in and listen to them do that.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, you there, thanks for tuning in. You'm ready for
another episode of my Bigfoot Sighting.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
All right, then let's do this.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Seeing a bunch of rundown no horse towns with the
Church at the backbone, laws and the bow and the
fasting melodies, coove in with the bomb man Rose with
the roos, run deep beyond the nose of the busy
streets with the songs of the South of you. Then
(00:34):
when I hear the prompt porch picking down home rhythm
bringing out I Don't Run from Banjum Music.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, welcome to my Bigfoot Sidings podcast.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Welcome to you by Vic Condiff, and I guess you
know this isn't Vic talking. This is Mark Knubel from
Sawdust Beast, and we're going to talk about a project
that we have been working on with Neil and Scott
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and Sheila and Nate from Squatch Fishing Outfitters, and it's
really something that's up in the air and we don't
know what's going to happen. I produced a little documentary
on it and went down there and did a little
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research myself, and I'm just excited to be able to
share this with everyone. And I hope that if somebody
that is out there that is in this same situation
that it might help them from what we are going through.
(01:57):
So first I'd like to enter Neil from bigfoot talk
dot Com.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Hey, how's everybody doing, Tony?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
And next I would like to introduce Scott and Sheila
Granger from s Watch Fishing Outfitters.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Hey everybody. Hey, everyone y'all doing?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
And also we have Nate Robinson from Squatch Fishing Outfitters. So,
how are you tonight? Nate, Hey, y'all, I'm doing good.
Thanks Nil. First, let's just do a little introduction and
see if you can paint for us a picture of
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where you live at and the terrain and the surrounding
areas and how you came to realize that there was
bigfoot on your property.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, it's kind of crazy. When I was growing up,
I always thought that there was a big food, a
possibility of big food. I liked all dryptig at the time,
but I figured the big foot was fifty to fifty.
But I never thought that there would be any in Georgia.
We've got rolling hills around the house, a lot of
streams around the property. We've got two streams dried up pond,
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and it was a beautiful area. I was in the
woods all the time growing up, not here, but another location,
and so I learned a lot about the outdoors and
all about the wildlife and what they do.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
I came here.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
We had the same wildlife here. Now we don't have
any bears here. That made it easy for me to
figure out what was going on with Nothing was easy
about it, but my wife and I wanted to find
a place we could buy and retire to, and I
wanted some property on it because I'd always have property
to go watch the wildlife. I always loved the wildlife.
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We found this property and it was all grown up.
It had been abandoned for eight and ten years, so
the first thing we had to do once we got
on it. When we drove on it, I didn't really
care for it, didn't like it because it was all
grown up. But when I saw the house, I said,
this looks good. Then I saw the beautiful streams on it,
and I'm like, okay, well we can clean this up.
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So it took a while to clean up all the
underbrushts that had grown front of the house behind the house,
refilled the pond, and I wanted fruit trees I planted
fruit trees. I thought it would be deer haven, but
there really wasn't that many deer, so I had to
plant a lot of stuff and do some feeding to
bring the deer in because I love.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
To watch them.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Now, I will tell you when I was younger, I
would always hunt, but my dad always taught me that
if you're not gonna eat them, don't shoot them. That's
taken a life. So my wife loved animals, loved the deer,
and I loved watching them, so I was fine with that.
So we started bringing on me in. We started feeding
the deer, planting clover, planting all kinds of stuff. And
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after we had been here several years, I started seeing
things and didn't make sense. I started seeing trails that
it looked like no animals that I know would be
on because the trails were must flat. Every limb, everything
on it was crushed. Deer don't do that. Other animals
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don't do that. There's no bear here, so they're not
crushing all these limbs on the trail was doing it.
The only thing I could think of were elephants, but
I've never heard about elephants being escaped in Georgia. I
just hadn't heard that. Then I started seeing stuff at
the pond that we had a barn that's to it
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catch on fire. We had to throw the wood part
into the pond to stop it the saldust from rigniting.
I took all the stuff out when I put mennows
in it, baby minnows, and then they went back in there.
And on the burnt side it was always down near
the edges, and every time you flip it over there
was all kind of leeches on the bottom. I would
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clean them off and take them out again. Fish will
eat them, but they it's got to be sunfish or
bigger fish. And we only had the baby menows in there.
They got put back in there burnt side down made
no sense. The burn side is the light side, and
every time they were in there they were close to
the edge. We took them out three times, and finally
I said, heck with it, because in my mind, you
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got to have hands to pick these things up. Somewhere
twenty to forty pounds. And it was on the hill
on the other side of the side to side trail
that made no sense. There were logs over the trail
going to that side that it was all grown up.
I had to run over trees to get to the
o dried up pond to refill it, and they've just
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been broken. There was no signs of any machinery or
anything cutting it. That had made no sense. I didn't
match anything. Why would somebody abandon the property, break these
huge logs and put three of them in a row
over this trail? Made no sense then and again after
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we had been here a while. Christmas in twenty nineteen,
my children bought me a cutout a big foot I
put in the backyard, off the porch so I could
see it. Two weeks later, at night, we had whistling
off of our back porch. When my wife was out
on the back porch, she thought it was one of
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the kids. She ran in and woke me up. I
didn't hear anything by the time I got out there,
but the dogs had been going crazy, and I matched
nothing of any animal as I ever heard. I'd heard
a matriarchal doe one time whistle, but they would never
go within five yards of dogs jumping up and down
growlly and a fence like that was happening with her.
(08:12):
Two weeks later, I had the house hits on our
bedroom at four forty seven in the morning, picture almost
came off the wall. So then I started thinking and
ruling out everything it could be. It' It wasn't a earthquake,
because earthquake is under the floor. This was high on
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the side of the wall, on the outside of the
brick house. It wasn't a tree falling on it. They
were too far away, and there was new bad weather.
It wasn't a jet going by. It woughtn't anything that
I could think of that could have done that. So
the next day I go outside. I even that night,
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went and loud, don't lie, to see if maybe there
was an ex loation somewhere nearby. Nothing was reported. The
next morning I go out there and I see the
grass was pressed down. Something had hit the bricks nine
to ten foot up. That makes no sense. I'm tall,
got long arms, I can't reach that high, and here's
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something hitting nine to ten foot up and all the
grass is batted down. I was like, that made no sense.
So I started putting it all together. I went and
looked at an article. I went in and put bigfoot
in a town close to me, and it came up
with a bfro siding and in the county that I
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was in, and when I started reading it, the location
was hidden. When I started reading it, I could tell
by the roads they were talking about it was really
close to here. So I wanted to contact that person
and find out, you know, where this location was. So
earlier I had met David Vacara in a expedition Bigfoot
(10:07):
in Blue Ridge, and I finally got in touch with
him after several tries, and I was asking him if
he knew anybody at the BFRO and knew this person.
Come to find out he had been in the BFRO,
and he said that that person no longer does it,
and they don't have that person's number anymore. Then he said,
(10:32):
can I ask you some questions? So he asked me
a lot of questions, like did I hunt? Do we
have fruit trees? Do we feed animals? Which we did?
We fed, We had bird stuff out We fed the deer,
we fed the fish. We put all that stuff out there,
the clover and stuff that rabbits were at. You know,
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we're feeding everything because we love the outdoors and still
do so, he said. I asked him when he got
done asked me the question, he said, I think I
know what's going on and I said, so what is it?
He said, you know what it is. That's why you're
calling me, you have a big foot. Well that floored
me because really, in reality, I thought there could never
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be a big foot, except if one was real over
on the West Coast or Canada Alaska. But everything that
I'm seeing makes no sense to any known animals that
I'd ever been around. So then I asked him, I said,
why do you think that? Because that blew my mind.
I didn't think anybody knew that much about him, and
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here he is not only telling me that, and I said,
what do you think it is? He says, they're letting
you know they're there and they want to coexist with you,
And that doesn't blew my mind. And then I said,
well why do you think that? He started asking me
a bunch more questions. Have you had logs or trees
pushed on your driveway?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Have you had your house hit several times on the
side of it at night?
Speaker 6 (12:04):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Have you had things thrown on your roof of your barn,
your back porch.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
No.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Have you had anything gralled at you from the woods.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
No.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
He said, well that's what they would be doing if
they didn't want you there, so I'd always gone by
the thing trust but verify. So I'm going to find
out if they really are here, because I was looking
for deer tracks and I hadn't seen their tracks. I
really wasn't looking for it. I was looking for deer tracks.
But so I decided to put two headless nails on
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a tree and stick a red delicious apple on it,
right by that trail that everything was smashed on, because
if there was a big foot there, that was their trail.
And sure enough I went down there and scraped some
of the leaves off, and the leaves underneath it was salt,
and I said, okay, if one walks up here, I'll
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see a side of a foot print, which that's exactly
what happened. They took them. I went down there. There
was a footprint sixteen to sixteen and a half inches,
you see the impression, but much wider than a person.
My foot's two to three x wide, thirteen and a
half inches long, and it was much wider than mine.
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So then David got in touch with Scott and Sheila
at Swatch Fishing Outfitters and have them call me in
do the report, and what I'll do now is I'll
let them tell you about that and what happened from
that point.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Yeah, David Mcera got in touch with us. They get
an awful lot of reports at the museum, and when
they get too many that is overwhelming for them to handle,
they'll they'll pass them all to some other investigators to
go and do the report, or for write it up
and turn it back into him. Well, Neil's report just
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happened to be one that David had passed off to us,
and I got in touch with Neil and took his report,
got everything jotted down, wrote the report up, set it
on in and that was you know, that was it
on my part at that point. I told Neil at
the time, I said, if you have any other questions
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or anything, you know, and you you feel like or
you want to talk to someone, we're always here. You've
got our number, you're more than welcome to call. So
it wasn't too long. Neil calls us back. We're we're
talking back and forth about different things that are happening
on his place, and he invites us down there, me
and she live and another person. We we load up
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and go down there. You know, just look around and
he showed us all the different things that he's seeing
and he has going on, and he shows us a
whole lot of interesting stuff. I mean, here, it's on
down towards the pond. Well me and see that. We
go off in the woods, we you know, cross over
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some fence line, old old fence line stuff, and go
down by the creek that's in there. Once we got
down in there, one of the prettiest tracks I've ever
seen in my life, a slide track, was right there
on the side of the creek area. We didn't have
any cast material at the time, because I would have
loved to have casted that track, But we spent a
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good little time around there, and it wasn't no doubt
in our mind at the time that he had a
situation going on there. And he finally woked me around
to the house to where the house had gotten hit.
Whatever hit that house, I can assure you it was
a serious, strong hit. It busted the mortar joint on
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that house from the roofline all the way down below
the window. That's a pretty good hit, you know. To
bust a mortar joint that far, you'll hear mortar joints
cracking like that on houses you knew that are new
that have set there in their settling stage. This house
had been there for a long time. The more and
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more we saw there, the more and more we were
both convinced.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Yeah, the footprint really done it for me because I
looked down there and I seen it was like on clay.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
The print was huge.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
We didn't have any cast material, but I took several
pictures of that, and there was a couple more and
there was some tree structures, so it's obviously something was
going on there. He had some kind of activity going on.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
And then Neil carried us around to the pond to
show us the stuff that had been happening at the pond,
and there's one trailer over there, and he was telling
us about this lining and everything that was going across way.
He shows it to us and we getting looking at
it and stating on it pretty good. And you know,
it was amazing because the tree and the vines that
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were laid across and pulled across this trail we're done
in like a fence. See, I mean the vines were
actually tied, they were laced together, they were laced through
the tree limbs and they were like tied in knots.
You know, that was that was extremely unusual, and anybody
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knows you've got to have hands to tie ups. So
when we finally left there, we we were pretty welcome,
you know we were. And over time we stayed in
touch back and forth, and we become friends over the years,
and Kneel went off on a few expeditions with us
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and seeing how things went with us, and you know,
we've just had a really good relationship and really good
friendship the whole time.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
And one thing I will tell you what happened after
we found out they were here, we started interacting with
them and actually build a trust between the family. There
was a family of four here. There was a large male, adult, male, adult, female, juvenile,
and a young one. And they got to the point
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to where they weren't hiding their footprints so I could
kind of track them and tell what they were doing
later on down the road. It got to where this
was a safe zung tool. They had gifted us stuff,
we had gifted them stuff, and I even started feeding them. Now,
I will tell you I don't recommend that at all.
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I was young and stupid in the big foot world
at that time, and I just thought there were a
normal animal like deer raccoons, you know. But I did
start feeding them, and because I wanted to learn everything
about them. I wanted to see how they ate stuff,
what they ate everything. And then not too long after that,
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they made the place a nursery. They made it to
where there would be two to three young ones here
every year. A juvenile would be with each young one
and then the mature mom would kind of oversee the grow. Now,
this went on for several years. Then what happened was
the worst thing in the world.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Happened.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Six hundred acres a safe zone for them to the
North office and got cut clear cut. Then about a
year after that to the North Office, two hundred acres
got cut, and the six hundred acres when it got cut,
it made a funnel area where another person nearby the
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new they were here, started shooting at them when they
would walk by during the daytime. So they disbanded the nursery.
There is still some living here. But I wanted to
give this docum what the deforestation of the woods would do,
but I had to do it with people that I
knew wouldn't give the location away. That's where you know
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I've gotten Mark, Scott and Sheila and Nathan because I
know that they're not going to give it away to
go document it. Scott and Sheila already knew about them
and how much activity I had because I kept up
with them. I would take pictures of stuff and send
them pictures. I would I had so much wild stuff
going on. I would call and talk to them about it.
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So they came down here to document it. And then
from that point, Mark, I'll let you describe what y'all did,
and Nathan could talk about the cameras and oh, there
were a bunch of cameras that we try to get
pictures with, but none were successful. That doesn't mean they
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didn't get anything. But I'll let them describe what that happened.
But Mark, you can take it from here and kind
of cover what y'all did, what y'all saw, and stuff
like that.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Well, just driving in you can tell if there could
be possible bigfoot activity going on, and once entering into
the forest, you see all this stuff like tree bows
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and these pathways that they were using, these Tallboy trails.
It was just simply amazing. And I really rely on Nate.
Nate is one of these outfitters that for years he
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would go into the woods on his own, and he's
able to read very well what kind of animals could
be possibly there. He knows where to look. I remember
the first time I met Nate, and it was at
LBL and I really observed people, and I just fixated
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on Nate and just how he was going about looking
at things. And now I'm thinking, yeah, if I saw this,
then I would move in this direction, or I would
start going into circles looking for the next clue. So
what was your impression, Nate of when we went down there.
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Pretty Much like any other place, we show up to.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
Investigate, even if it's a camp, a new camp that
Scott and Sheila had found. The first thing is the
adrenaline rush, and you get out of the truck and
your heart rate picks up, your senses sharpened, especially when
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you get on those trails. Every twig that snaps just
amplifies something moving through the brush, whether it's big or small,
it gets your attention. I want to touch on what
Neil said earlier about the nursery. We found a hide
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or a blind, a shelter, whatever you want to call it.
That me and Sheila went into and we were able
to stand up straight in this thing, and it was
divided into two sections. There was a small section that
had a couple of saplings used as railings that were
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going horizontal and on that ground was pressed down the foliage.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
All that was matted.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
So what we figured it looked like a daycare set.
It looked like a playpen to meet and Sheila, So
that really got my attention. I think it was the
second day we were there.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Neil tell us about your first sighting that you had
that just really proved to you to where you wasn't
scratching your head anymore going on one drink that you
have actually laid eyes on. The first sighting was amazing.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
We had a bay window with the table right in
front of it, and I was looking out the bay
window and we've got a side be side trail down there,
and there is something black down there there and it's quatting,
but it's in the middle of where our trail is,
so I knew good in the weld. It didn't match
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any animal, and there was no animal supposed to be
down there, and I kept looking at it and looking
at it, and it was actually squatting down kind of
leaning towards the window, and I started seeing the trouts
that it had seemed like it almost went from the
outside of the shoulders way up on the head about
where the bottle of our ears were, and you can
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see the head. It looked like a juvenile. It looked
like it had been about six foot if it stood up,
but it looked very athletic. But it was squatting down
looking at us. And then I got and told everybody.
I said, look down there, we've got one of the
bigfoot watching us. And then of course my mom said no,
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others said, I don't know. It looks like a black bush.
I said, well, first off, there are the black any
black bushes, and second off, that's in the middle of
our side of the side trail. Now, me being a dummy,
within five steps on me, I got a pair of
monopolars in a drawer and I didn't even think about
getting it to look at it. And I told them,
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I said I could to mark where it is from
where you're sitting, because when we get up to put
our dishes in the seak and you come back, it's
going to be gone. Sure enough, when we came back,
it was gone, so my wife and I went down there,
and sure enough, you could see where the grass was
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pressed down in the road, and you could see where
it had walked into the woods by how the foot
had matched the grass down on the way to the woods.
And it was amazing and it was also very neat
at the same time, because that was the first sighting
we had one and they were There's no doubt in
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my mind they were doing it on purpose. They were
far enough away I couldn't get to them, but we
had done a lot of interactions before that, and there's
nothing about that that tells me anything. But they wanted
me to see them, wanted us to see them at
that point, and then it started from there. I've seen
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three more that I know one hundred percent, and I
have a high standard for calling a sighting. For me
to call the siding, I have to see hair, facial features,
know it's nothing else. And it was just it was
crazy because everyone I've seen I see something different on it.
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From that one the traps going as high up as
it did. From one of them, is hand was just huge.
And another one the ears I saw baby real close
at about seven yards and its ear was flatter than ours.
It was a little bit lower than a little bit
smaller than ours, So I got a side view of it,
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and it was seitting it. It was in a position
like a rabbit would be, and when I saw those ears,
I knew exactly what it was because I'd smelled it
before that. So I had three others that I don't
call sighting, but it's ninety percent. And the only reason
I say that is because if there's an escape chimpanzee somewhere,
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it could possibly be a chimpanzee, because too of a
move like a chimpanzee. The other one was on the
gifting station and it slid down like a little kid
sliding down off of a playground equipment, which no animal
does out and the way it moved, its arms and
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all were outside its body frame. It moved spider ish,
not exactly like a spider, but it was weird because
everything was kind of outside the body. But I didn't
get to know definitely. That's why I don't say it's
one hundred percent, even though I don't think it could
have been anything but that. I just but I won't
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call it a siding be called of that. And then
I've seen bunches of shapes and shadows in the woods.
But you know, I can't call that a siding. I
just it doesn't meet my parameter of what I do.
I want to be sure about what I see.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
One thing that I really appreciate about everyone that is
on here, we have to prove it. We try to
eliminate anything, any evidence that a lot of people want
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to drive and if they find one footprint or one
tree bow, then they just want to jump back in
their car and get phone reception and tell the world wide. Well,
you know that they found evidence of a bigfoot. But
everybody here is diligent when it comes to following up
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and trying to prove that it is not a bigfoot.
And for those that don't know, Scott and Sheila asked
me to be an outfitter with them last year for
Squatch Fish and Outfitters, and I was just so humble
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that they would ask me because just being in the
field and watching how they operate, there's no alpha males
and better yet, no alpha females. And it is great
that whenever somebody thinks something or wants to try rise
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something that everybody listens, we talk about it, and everybody
gives one hundred percent. That is so important that when
you go into the woods that everybody is on the
same game plan. Scott and Sheila tell us a little
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bit more about when we went back this last time
in May, how things could possibly be changing because of
the clear cutting.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
Well, one thing we noticed right off that we got
there and we've seen the area that was being clearcut,
and how devastating the clear cutting was. We're not talking,
you know, a thinning of the forest. We are talking
about cutting into the dirt. And like what Neil had
said earlier, the way it is being cut down, but
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it is becoming like a funnel area for where his
property has the only poor around there. And I think
we noticed was we didn't see as much evidence as
we did the first time we went there before. Old couldn't.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
But the one thing, like Nate said, that just tickled
me to death. I was just I mean, I was
bounce off the wall. We found those blinds, which you
want to call them, a smaller one and then the
bigger one, you know, be honest, shut it out to me,
that's what that was, because it didn't make no sense
for it to be anything else, especially the way they
were structured. And the limbs, and you know they're just
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woven together. You know, a deer didn't do that, and
I don't I pretty sure knew it wasn't out there,
you know, weaving them together just to play hide and seek.
But I can't tell you how shocked I was about that.
And then you know with the gifting station out there,
with all the food he was putting out, and we
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looked at that, I mean, there was Prince there. There
was trails leading from there. Yeah, there's there's going to
be you know, squirrels, wrapped UNEs and everything else.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
And sure it could have been some of that, but
it was.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
Not all of that, all of the wildlife creatures. I'm
telling you that it was not. There was Prince there,
and then a lot of people. I don't know if
we told everybody this, but the third night we were
there and we were standing in Neil's camper, how big
the camper that this big motor home, big motor home is.
Scott and I were sleeping in that back bedroom back there,
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and everybody was asleep. It was Nie, Scott and Nate
and Mark was at the front. But something hit that
camper that third night and it moved. I mean it
hit the side of it, you know. I remember asking
Nate that next morning, did you get up? You know,
And I know Scott didn't, so I don't know what
it was. But I'll never get over that one.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
And you know, the part about I was totally shot.
And Neil had been telling me things about this, about
how things were going and how things were slowing down,
and he was getting really concerned and he was looking
for a way, you know, to preserve what he had,
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you know, to get it documented and everything. He taught
with me more and more about it, and then one
day he hit me up and he asked me about
Mark filming it, doing the documentary on it, and I
told him it was a wonderful idea. You know, at
this point in time, it was a few years back.
Several people try to get in his place to do
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some filming work and all that, and he alled me
and asked me about it, and I gave you my opinion,
my personal opinion, you know, the best I could at
that time. And my answer to it at that point
in time was no. And reasoning for it, I said,
if you ever let anyone in there filming, you know,
we're gonna get out everybody's going to know where this
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place is at, and you're gonna get all kind of
encroachment not only on your place, but the surrounding areas
around you. And he agreed. And when all this, like
I said, when all this started, you know, his concern
was to get the point documented to where it will
be preserved for what he had. So he got in
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touch with Mark and got the ball on that, and
that's what brings us up here to where we're at today.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
One thing I wanted to say, this happens so much.
So many people think it's just as easy as putting
a game camera out to get a picture of these creatures.
They are so wrong. I had ten to twelve cameras
out in the beginning so I could monitor the deer.
I never got a picture of one. I got glimpses
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of hair after I asked them to show me what
they look like. After I knew they were here, and
I started getting glimps a hair on the side of
the camera. But they know electronics. They know the electronics
is there, whether it's the electronics from the inside they
can detect, whether it's the infrared, whether they can hear
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the sound. I don't know what it is, but they
can detect it. I've had cameras before this time. I've
had cameras that were brand new, worked about a week
and then just got fried. I've had them turn them
sideways and then see a deer where they am boosted
deer near the feeder because you can see where the
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feet had just drug the ground loosely limply. I had
them to where the batteries went dead after one week,
when another one somewhere else went three months with the
same batteries out of the same one, and that one
had always done the same thing. So there's weird things
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that they could do. It's not as is putting cameras
out there now. Whenever we were out there most of
the time, I let Scott, Sheila, Nathan, and Mark do
whatever they wanted to do. I just kind of left
them alone. There were several reasons for that. My mom
was sick, so I had to kind of watch her.
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I was up most of the night a lot of
the nights helping her. But I wanted them to be unbiased.
I wanted them to see what they could see. I
wanted them to go where they wanted to go. There's
certain areas I kind of wanted them to stay out off.
There were areas where I knew they were that I
stayed out off, and the area where they found those
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two structures, I knew that they stayed there because the
mom stayed up on top of the hill above them,
and down there is where I knew and see shadows
of the little ones watching me as I went by,
So I knew that they were down there, but I
knew the mom stayed up on the hill from vocalizations
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and things like that. But there's other area, and they
just they knew I wasn't going to go in it,
but I wanted them to go and see the stuff
on their own. And then when they were putting cameras out,
I wasn't down there when they did it. But why
don't y'all talk about the cameras y'all put out and
all the stuff that happened to the AUS cameras down
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there near the gift of station.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Fill us in, Nate on what happened with your camera
that we had set up by the feeding station.
Speaker 8 (38:40):
I actually got it right here, So if you hadn't
seen our documentary yet, what we did was on this
one here. We were able to turn the IUR off
or on, and we had ther turned off, and it's
got a little magnet on the back. We get stick
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it on the bottom of a trailer or you know,
a camp or trailer or a cook stove or whatever,
and pick up anything it might come walking through camp.
Hopefully we could get something, whether it's just regular barmuts
or whatever. We didn't have anything that metallic that we
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could have put this thing on. So we found some hedges.
It was alongside of the gift in station, just overgrown hedges,
and they were like some small spindley little offshoots from
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the hedges that we found, and we actually put this
little camera between two of the offshoots and we were
able to tighten it up with a zip type. We
just put tension on the bottom of those offshoots and
it clamped the camera in. They're pretty tight. The next
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morning we found the camera on the ground and behind
those hedges. We seen some impressions coming up to the
back of the camera where it may have just flipped
the camera out of those spring loaded offshoots that we
had fastened this thing into. So we took the SD
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card back to base camp and Mark checked the footage.
If I ain't mistaken, there was something like three hours
of footage on this but nothing from that previous night.
I know it works personally. I've tested it before leaving
out for camp. Charged it left it running in the house,
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come back and check and it picked up everything I
was doing, folding laundry, drinking coffee whatever. I've used it
in the yard out here, picking up the stray dogs
coming through, getting into the cat food whatever.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
It works.
Speaker 8 (41:07):
But for there to be three hours of footage and
nothing from the previous night, I don't know. I can't
explain that. And the fact that it was flipped out
and laying on the ground, I have no explanation.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
So we're at park.
Speaker 8 (41:26):
We can't explain what goes on with the cameras or electronics.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
I know for a.
Speaker 8 (41:35):
Fact that my best picture that I had taken it
come from a cheap night vision Amazon camera. If they
want you to see them, they'll let you. I don't
care if it's and for red thermal whatever. If they
want you to see them, they'll let you, even with
a naked eye. I've seen them with a naked eye.
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Scott and Sheila had Neil. If they want you to
see them. You're going to see it. They want you
to have a picture, You'll get a picture. But as
far as the malfunctions, I don't know. I've had batteries
go dead in the field. I was anticipating that for
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a long time, and there was a long period where
I wasn't having that phenomenon until all of a sudden,
batteries going dead, things like that thermal screen going blank.
Of course, I don't know. Maybe the data was running
low because I run a thermal off of my iPhone.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
I think that's something most investigators have experienced in the field.
I know I could think of a dozen times that
has happened to me. I can think of times where
there was four of us out there and everything from
camcorders to recorders to thermals everything went dead and there
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was activity going on around us. And once the activity
left the area, then everything started working. I don't have
answers for it, but we do know that you can
have a fully charged camera or recorder and it goes dead.
(43:36):
It absolutely goes dead, and then you get back to
camp and it's fully charged like it was. So it's
just really really strange to me. It's a phenomenon, and
it was really something to see that those impressions that
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came up to the hedge, and then we found that
camera laying on the ground and there's no video footage
of that camera being knocked out of that hedge mark.
Speaker 8 (44:13):
You had a plotwatcher on the opposite side of the
gifting station, right, Did you get any images from that?
Speaker 4 (44:24):
I did not, And there was missing time. I run
a timestamp on all of my plotwatchers, and there was
missing time in there. And that plotwatcher was pointing towards
your camera.
Speaker 8 (44:41):
Letting yours turned at one point.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Both nights it was turned and it was not in
the same position, and I mean it was on their tight.
I had it sitting on a limb with a bungee
cord wrapped around it, so it would have it would
have taken something to actually put hands or put something
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on it to turn it like that.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
And I've actually had them in the field where I've
gotten the stump feeders where I feed the deer. They've
actually moved these stump feeders closer to the edge so
they can grab them, and they've actually turned on where
I had it so tight that it rubbed the bark off,
and that's one of the one time that I found
the little deer hoof's just dragging on the ground. I
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figured it must have broke his neck or something and
didn't want me to see it because I had the
camera right at it. And they turned it so much
that the bark on that tree was just was ripped
turned as it turned it around, and actually on the
camera you can actually see a fingerprint for a picture
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or two. So I guess it was hot and had
moisture on it and then disappeared. But it's crazy all
the stuff they can do now. One thing, when we
were down there looking at the gifting station, we kind
of cut some limbs away, so we want to reduce
as much as we could to get other animals to
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not be able to interfere with the food up there. Okay,
so Scott mentioned about putting sheep metal around the four
posts going up to the roof, and I did that
after they left, and I started putting food on the
top of it because it's really tall. It's probably seven
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and a half a foot tall something like that. But
I would put like peanut butter, I would put different
things on the top and it's still disappearing off the
top of it, and with that sheep metal, there isn't
anything that should be able to climb up there to
get that off. That's just some things I try to
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do to reduce misidentification. I think that Sent's got a
picture of it the other day, But you know, we
try to do everything we can do to stop any
misidentification of what's doing what. And I learned a lot
by how they open things. So a lot of times
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I can just tell by how it's opened what did
it because you don't see claw marks, you don't see
teeth marks. And they have a very unique way of
opening different containers. The peanut butter box, they have a
unique way of opening it and pulling it out. It's
not the way we do the same with the packages
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on the inside. They don't grab them from the end
and rip them. They grabble from the sides and pull
them open. And if a raccoon or something like that
did it, you would see the little claw marks or
little teeth marks, and they're not. It's just the strength
of them grabbing that plastic and pulling it from the
sides and it comes open. So there's a lot of
things I've learned from putting the food down there. But
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it's really neat when you start doing things to try
to rule out other animals and start really observing how
things are done, and you know, being able to rule
out other animals. You've got peanut butter jars that when
a raccoon gets it, he'll eat a hole into the
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bottom so we can get it out of the bottom
when they eat it out of it. It's clean, I
mean it's clean on the inside, and most raccoons can't
even reach to the bottom of a peanut butter jar.
So it's just really unique all the stuff you can
learn about them, especially when you got them a living
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around you a lot like we have here. The ones
that are here are here year round. They don't migrate.
There are some that migrate other places, but not here now.
The ones that we here originally are not here right now.
I believe there is a young male, a young adult male,
a young adult female, and they had another baby this
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year and maybe a young one, so there's still four
that's in the area a lot, but it's nothing like
it was when the nursery was here. It was they
would come look in the window to watch TV. That
would tap on the house if you were playing music,
because they love music. It was really really something when.
Speaker 5 (49:36):
All that was going on.
Speaker 4 (49:40):
Let's talk about obituation, and that is something that you
kind of have two camps on. Some people say don't
do it, and then some people do it. And this
is something that when me and Neil first started talking
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that I wanted to make sure that him and his
family were protected about this and that there was a
backup plan. You can't just feed them for years and
then just all of a sudden just stop cold turkey
like that. And so I really appreciate how Neil's family is.
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They have all come together and Christy is so good
about what she does because I don't know if she
was ever a believer until she started experiencing these first things.
But I think it's something that if you choose to
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habituate to feed, that you do have a backup plan,
because there are some horror stories out there where somebody
might go into a hospital or somebody might be gone awhile,
but this relationship that you have built with them, there
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has really been nothing that was negative that has happened.
And so for me, that's a positive thing, and it
shows that Neil is going.
Speaker 5 (51:27):
About it the right way.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Well, I think you have to be lucky too. You
have to have a group that's willing to be friendly
to you. And I really think the male says the
rules for the most part. But the situation here was
the female had a lot of input. But if they
hadn't wanted to coexist with us, if they never let
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me know they were here, I would still seeing be
seeing things going on that I had no idea what
was making it happen. But they let me know they
were here. Then as I started gifting them, they started
gifting me back. We said, they want to coexist with us,
and I think they try to learn from as much
about us as we do about them, and they pattern
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us because when we do things different, they actually come
after We've had a party and checked onnus. I've got
footprints on the back porch where they were behind the
fern looking at us, making sure we were okay on
the inside. But you're right, you never know what can happen.
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That's the reason I always tell people that I was
really young in the Bigfoot stuff. I was fifty to fifty,
that there might be one still alive. But Christy never
thought they were alive at all. But she's seen so
much and heard so much now that she knows absolutely,
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you know, and we just laugh about it. We're good
with them. We kind of set up rules. One of
my rules was no looking in the windows. One of
them was don't hit the house. You can tap on it,
but don't hit it. Don't come in the house, don't
damage our car or the side of a side. Now
they have din it in a door, trying to push
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it open rather than pulling it. And they've got rules
with me. There's certain areas they don't want me to
go into. They don't want me taking pictures of them.
They don't want me trying to hurt them, and don't
want me to bring in people into their area. Which
that's the reason why I one of the reasons why
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I never brought anybody in here. But when I did,
I had to choose people that I knew that would
protect them, because most people wouldn't. Most people would go say,
I know, whether there's a bunch of them, You know,
I don't need that. We were friendly with this family.
We have built up a relationship with them, sort of
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like an extended family. They've actually warned us of danger,
and I know that it's true. I mean, what animal
would do that? And I tell you just a little
example of that. I took one of our relatives and
her friend to the pond to feed the fish. Now,
i'd heard lightning off in the distance, but the wind
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was blowing that way, so I thought there was no
way that the storm was going to come our way.
And get down to the pond. All of a sudden,
I hear lightning a little bit closer.
Speaker 5 (54:38):
I hear a.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Tree bank snout twenty five yards from us, really loud,
and I get the feeling they're trying to tell us
we need to leave now. So I told them, I said,
let's go, we need to leave now. And our relatives said,
are we in danger? Because she knows about them, She's
seen the prince, she seen the tracks, she's even seen
one with her son. And I said, no, they're letting
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us know that a storm's about to hit and we
need the leap. So we go as fast as we can.
We get back to the house. Now, they said they
heard lightning strike at the pond. I didn't hear it,
so I can't verify that. But we were two steps
in the house and a hell storm came, hell started
coming down, lighting started to strike like crazy. If we
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hadn't left, then we would have been in the middle
of it. And they warned us of it coming. And basically,
if they hadn't done that, you know, we could have
got hit in the head with some hells stroke by
light and you don't know, but they actually warned us
of that. Normal animals don't do that. You know, you're
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dealing with something much smarter than the normal animals. I believe.
Speaker 4 (55:53):
I'm humble and I'm excited to be a part of
this project because I know there are other people that
are out there that are going through this or land
around them. It's being encroached and that has to be
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a negative towards the humans because it only makes sense
that they can associate us with other humans. What says
that Neil might just all of a sudden start cutting
his timber down, But this trust that they have with him,
(56:39):
it's encouraging. And so we just really want to document
what's going on right now. And in the documentary we
talk about some of the experiences that Neil and Christy
(57:00):
have had on the property over the years. So this
film is to be continued, and we're going to see
what happens. I would like for Scott and Sheila to
talk a little bit about Squatch Fish and Outfitters because
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I have been involved with hundreds of people in different groups,
but the first time being in the field with them,
I was just so impressed with how they conduct themselves
in the field. So Scott and Sheila talked to us
(57:45):
a little bit about y'all's outings and taking people out,
because not everybody has the time to go out and
put boots on the ground and spend you know, their
life looking for these things. But it's like someone that
might want to go fishing in a different part of
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the country and so they pick an outfitter, you know,
somebody that knows where the fish are at in his experience.
So Scott and Sheila tell us a little bit more
about Squatch Fishing Outfitters. Well, we started up Squatch Fishing
Outfitters several years ago.
Speaker 5 (58:29):
We're in about in our fourth season of actually taking
out expeditions. We've been doing it longer than that, but
as far as doing expeditions, we've been doing for four
seasons now. We originally started it to enable people that
wanted to go do this and avenue they could that
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was affordable for everyone, that anyone that wanted to do
it could do it, because there's other places out there
that could go, but it's extremely expensive. We decided we
would venture into this and along with fly fishing deal
guiding fly fishing, and as we got one into it
more and more it started growing a little bit and
(59:13):
we realized that we could do this by ourselves right
along our own, we had to have additional help. So
then it was to find people, you know, that we
met with. We all could trust each other because when
you're out in the woods in the middle of the night,
people that knows what I'm talking about, it's dark out there,
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something starts happening, and the last thing you want to
do is turn around to find your buddy and him
not be there. Well, that's not the kind of people
you want with you. And that's why we have folks
like Nate, Mark and Hailey and the other people that
we have with us, is because there's no doubt in
my mind if something goes sideways, I don't have to
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I don't have to wonder where they're at. They're right
there with me. No, you've got to have that kind
of camaraderie, brotherhood, whatever you want to call it, that
good feeling doing what we do.
Speaker 6 (01:00:09):
And we try to make everybody feel like family, you know,
that's our goal. I mean, And we want when people come,
if they're new or whatever, we want them to feel comfortable.
You know. Of course you were in the woods with
a bunch of strangers.
Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
That's big foots.
Speaker 6 (01:00:23):
I mean, as comfortable as you can possibly feel like
minded people, and you know, so that's our goal. So
usually when people come, they you know, they enjoy it,
they leave us friends and I can honestly say we
have at least ninety nine percent returns, you know, so,
and yeah, that's why we do it. We do it
(01:00:44):
because we were interested in it, really didn't know how
to go about doing it. And this is what we do.
This is what we enjoy. So as long as we.
Speaker 5 (01:00:51):
Can, as long as we can keep it going, we will. Yeah,
because everybody that's on this show right now knows we
don't make no money. At the end of the year.
If I break even, I'm tickled to death.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Yeah. We do it because we enjoy and if I
can say something about it, it is good food, good
friendship and a good time. I mean, I've gone several times,
and I wish I could go every time, but due
to some circumstances that I'm in, it just doesn't. It's
kind of hard to get away. But some of the
(01:01:26):
stuff that's happened is just crazy. I mean, from sitting
by the fire pit and having little pebbles and acorse
thrown by you and near you here in mouth pops
come up in the woods behind you, within ten yards
of you, and not know if it's going to reach
out and touch it in the next second. I mean,
(01:01:47):
there's some really neat stuff that goes on. You can
learn a lot about them by listening to Scott and Sheila,
listening to what's going on around you.
Speaker 6 (01:01:56):
I think, like you were saying, well, ago you build
a t us will, I think we're in the woods
so much. I really truly believe that they recognize us.
And most of y'all know we have activity at our
house too. And you're talking about them knowing what's going
on at your house. They know what's going on here.
If Scott was to be gone for a couple of days,
they know it.
Speaker 5 (01:02:17):
Oh yeah, no doubt about that, you know. And back
to what I was saying, will Ga, Well, we chose
people you know to be with us, you know, on
this venture and everything. We were very careful about in
our choosing of people. And like I said, you know,
you want you want that perfect person with you, and
(01:02:40):
that's really and truly a hard thing to find and
we have been overly blessed. I mean, I say that
from the bottom of my heart with people that are
with Squash Fishing Outfitters. I'll be a little bit biased
about what I'm going to say, but I will say
that I personally think we have one of the best
teams out there experience knowledge with electronics because we have
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to have that with me and she don't have none.
Speaker 7 (01:03:09):
Well, we don't have.
Speaker 6 (01:03:10):
Knowledge of all this. I call Haley my person now.
Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
You know. And I'm just proud of each and every
one of the people that are involved with us, because
we could not do it without Job.
Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
One thing you said she love about They know when
he's gone. They pattern you so much. They know so
much more than you think they do. For example, when
I go and I'm bringing in Walmart back to the house,
they know that I've got stuff in the back of
my truck for them and you'll see little footprints, come
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in a lot of times and look in the back
window to see what's in there. For they don't go
in it. They don't hit the car. I have found
fingerprints and stuff on the car, but they'll actually come
look in the back the night that I'm bringing the
wall more bags then to see what's in the back
for them. That's crazy. But they've patterned you so much
(01:04:06):
that they know that I'll leave it in there because
they've washed and seen me take it out, so they
go check it out. It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (01:04:15):
They're like the best nosiest neighbors you could ever have.
Speaker 5 (01:04:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Well, Nate, do you have any final thoughts that you
would like to leave our audience with.
Speaker 8 (01:04:29):
I'd like to after what Scott said about being trustworthy
in having each other's back, that if anything happened to
one of us, we turn around and the other one's
not there. Somebody's not bringing up the beer.
Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
He's gone.
Speaker 8 (01:04:45):
That's been verified. We were coming out of the ridges
in West Virginia and I was bringing up from beer.
The group was following the asphalt back to the trucks
around the field. I shot straight across that field and
(01:05:07):
I thought I'm at third peripherals. Surely they're going to
see me and follow me. It's a shortcut, right, Well,
we get back to the trucks. Scott Sheila had turned
around and heading back into those ridges to buy me.
So that's been verified. We do that for anybody that's sure.
Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
Absolutely, Scott Sheila. Do y'all have any final thought?
Speaker 5 (01:05:37):
Well, if anyone out there would like to get in
on one of these expeditions, on one of these outings
we put on now, look us up on Facebook or
go to TikTok and find us on their squash fishing outfitters.
We're pretty easy. Fine, we put a lot of good
information on there and we're getting pretty decent to that TikTok.
(01:05:58):
So people to know this.
Speaker 6 (01:06:00):
I want people to know you don't have to be
no trifle on winter or whatever. You know, we're not
hiking in the woods ten miles and that's not where
we're about. I mean, and it's just we don't have
to go far. We kind of put you where you
need to be and you know, if you want to
hike a little bit deeper, that's fine. But like I say,
people that want to do this that don't think they can,
(01:06:22):
I want them to know that they can. They absolutely can.
Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
Yes, because we have situations set up to where anyone
that wants to go can. If it's a physical disability
to where they can't hike, we have a sitting group
and that's for people that are either in that situation
or that just don't want to hike off in the
Mimorble woods at night. And a lot of times that
group has just as much, if not more activity in
(01:06:47):
than the hiking group. So we do our very best
to fit everything into everybody's needs, and again, if it
wasn't for everybody else, we'll be able to do all that.
Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
Neil, do you have any final faults that you would
like to leave us with.
Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
I would like for everybody to go and watch the
documentary and Mark you can tell them what it is
and everything. It's on YouTube. I've seen it several times
and there's always things you can miss and pick up on.
But hopefully we have more to show and more to come.
Hopefully some of the woods grow back and they move
(01:07:27):
back into the area. Right now, we still have some
that want to stay here and live here, which is
a good thing, but if they don't go and start
building on the property, in a few years it'll start
growing back, and I think they'll come back as long
as it's people don't go and start shooting at them
(01:07:50):
and a bunch of stuff like that, and then we
can maybe have a nursery again. And the nursery is
an amazing thing. You have so many little prints running
around is crazy. But Mark, you want to tell them
about the documentary and the names and how they could
find it.
Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
Absolutely. I have a YouTube channel that is called Sawdust
Peast and saw dust is spelled with two teams at
the end and Larry Porch and myself. We had a
live podcast for years on there and we've had so
(01:08:30):
many great guests. But I'm looking forward to the future.
The film that will be coming out next If you
are familiar with my channel, is when I asked Scott
Espinosa can Squatch to come with me to PJ Arkansas's
(01:08:53):
place where they live and they have boogers around them,
and so it was amazing weekend that we spent there.
And really the first couple of times I just went
by myself into the woods and camped in the woods.
(01:09:14):
But I wanted somebody there that would actually witness and
confirm things that would happen. So I'm excited about that
film and I'm trumping at the bit to do the
next one with it was Scott and Sheila and Nate
(01:09:35):
and we were at LBL and we had some strange
things going on and not all of it was Bigfoot,
and so far, I'm leaning at the title of being
called Spirits of LBL because it will blow your mind
(01:10:03):
whenever we go to do that. So I want to
thank everybody for coming on tonight. I especially want to
thank Vic Vic, the person that you hear on his podcast.
That is who he is in real life, and I
(01:10:23):
just have so much respect for him, and he's just
such a kind hearted individual and I wish that there
were more people that were out there like Vic doing
these different podcasts. So with that said, we want to
(01:10:43):
thank everybody for listening and we will see you again
real soon. Good Night, everybody, Good night, good night.
Speaker 9 (01:10:56):
Well that's it for tonight show. If you've had a
big Foot sighting and I would like to be a guest,
please go to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com and let
us know. Thanks for listening, have a great night.
Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Seen a bunch of run down no horse towns where
the church is the backbone loves and the bow and
the fasting melodies.
Speaker 7 (01:11:15):
Coove in.
Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
That the bomb man rose, where the roofs run deep
beyond the nose of the busy streets with the songs
of the South o Su Then I mean, I hear
the promp porch picking down home rhythm, bringing out I
don't run from Banjum music. Yeah, the sound of a
(01:11:42):
memory brings me back to the bluegrass playing the Madadi jack.
It's become an.
Speaker 10 (01:11:49):
It been through it, getting through the deal on scrubs
and skags, booking name bears thro this Tennessee jams.
Speaker 7 (01:12:00):
There's no the way that I do it.
Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
And I hear the round boards piacking down home rhythm
bringing out that a run from ben Jong music.
Speaker 11 (01:12:12):
Yeah, summon dolling backwards backwards and double time poking into
the sword and the strumming looking tuck start. There's nothing
in the strumming out country boy living. And I hear
the bum boats picking down rhythm, bringing us that all
from from men.
Speaker 7 (01:12:33):
Rings, the city last trous me wild on the tune,
miss the.
Speaker 10 (01:12:48):
Cars rushing by with the beasts on the sterios to man,
and I hear the brown buch picking down home rhythm
bringing nuts far from.
Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Bunch of music.
Speaker 11 (01:13:04):
Yeah, summing, gallop, back words back, what's in double tub,
getting in the sword and the strumming looking Turkey stars.
Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
There's the strumming down cuts.
Speaker 7 (01:13:15):
Your born living.
Speaker 11 (01:13:17):
I'm gonna hear the bum boats picking down rhythm bringing
us bad from the past. Sing, gallop, back words back, onson,
(01:13:49):
double tim getting in the sword and the strumming looking
Turki Starscause the strumming down cuts your boy living. When
I hear the pop bots picking down a room
Speaker 10 (01:14:00):
From the brachick and boatswing Mama's best sweet tea kind
of sound round the medal music
Hey, you there, thanks for tuning in. You'm ready for
another episode of my Bigfoot Sighting.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
All right, then let's do this.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Seeing a bunch of rundown no horse towns with the
Church at the backbone, laws and the bow and the
fasting melodies, coove in with the bomb man Rose with
the roos, run deep beyond the nose of the busy
streets with the songs of the South of you. Then
(00:34):
when I hear the prompt porch picking down home rhythm
bringing out I Don't Run from Banjum Music.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, welcome to my Bigfoot Sidings podcast.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Welcome to you by Vic Condiff, and I guess you
know this isn't Vic talking. This is Mark Knubel from
Sawdust Beast, and we're going to talk about a project
that we have been working on with Neil and Scott
(01:16):
and Sheila and Nate from Squatch Fishing Outfitters, and it's
really something that's up in the air and we don't
know what's going to happen. I produced a little documentary
on it and went down there and did a little
(01:36):
research myself, and I'm just excited to be able to
share this with everyone. And I hope that if somebody
that is out there that is in this same situation
that it might help them from what we are going through.
(01:57):
So first I'd like to enter Neil from bigfoot talk
dot Com.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Hey, how's everybody doing, Tony?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
And next I would like to introduce Scott and Sheila
Granger from s Watch Fishing Outfitters.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Hey everybody. Hey, everyone y'all doing?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
And also we have Nate Robinson from Squatch Fishing Outfitters. So,
how are you tonight? Nate, Hey, y'all, I'm doing good.
Thanks Nil. First, let's just do a little introduction and
see if you can paint for us a picture of
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where you live at and the terrain and the surrounding
areas and how you came to realize that there was
bigfoot on your property.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, it's kind of crazy. When I was growing up,
I always thought that there was a big food, a
possibility of big food. I liked all dryptig at the time,
but I figured the big foot was fifty to fifty.
But I never thought that there would be any in Georgia.
We've got rolling hills around the house, a lot of
streams around the property. We've got two streams dried up pond,
(03:25):
and it was a beautiful area. I was in the
woods all the time growing up, not here, but another location,
and so I learned a lot about the outdoors and
all about the wildlife and what they do.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
I came here.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
We had the same wildlife here. Now we don't have
any bears here. That made it easy for me to
figure out what was going on with Nothing was easy
about it, but my wife and I wanted to find
a place we could buy and retire to, and I
wanted some property on it because I'd always have property
to go watch the wildlife. I always loved the wildlife.
(04:03):
We found this property and it was all grown up.
It had been abandoned for eight and ten years, so
the first thing we had to do once we got
on it. When we drove on it, I didn't really
care for it, didn't like it because it was all
grown up. But when I saw the house, I said,
this looks good. Then I saw the beautiful streams on it,
and I'm like, okay, well we can clean this up.
(04:27):
So it took a while to clean up all the
underbrushts that had grown front of the house behind the house,
refilled the pond, and I wanted fruit trees I planted
fruit trees. I thought it would be deer haven, but
there really wasn't that many deer, so I had to
plant a lot of stuff and do some feeding to
bring the deer in because I love.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
To watch them.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Now, I will tell you when I was younger, I
would always hunt, but my dad always taught me that
if you're not gonna eat them, don't shoot them. That's
taken a life. So my wife loved animals, loved the deer,
and I loved watching them, so I was fine with that.
So we started bringing on me in. We started feeding
the deer, planting clover, planting all kinds of stuff. And
(05:14):
after we had been here several years, I started seeing
things and didn't make sense. I started seeing trails that
it looked like no animals that I know would be
on because the trails were must flat. Every limb, everything
on it was crushed. Deer don't do that. Other animals
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don't do that. There's no bear here, so they're not
crushing all these limbs on the trail was doing it.
The only thing I could think of were elephants, but
I've never heard about elephants being escaped in Georgia. I
just hadn't heard that. Then I started seeing stuff at
the pond that we had a barn that's to it
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catch on fire. We had to throw the wood part
into the pond to stop it the saldust from rigniting.
I took all the stuff out when I put mennows
in it, baby minnows, and then they went back in there.
And on the burnt side it was always down near
the edges, and every time you flip it over there
was all kind of leeches on the bottom. I would
(06:19):
clean them off and take them out again. Fish will
eat them, but they it's got to be sunfish or
bigger fish. And we only had the baby menows in there.
They got put back in there burnt side down made
no sense. The burn side is the light side, and
every time they were in there they were close to
the edge. We took them out three times, and finally
I said, heck with it, because in my mind, you
(06:42):
got to have hands to pick these things up. Somewhere
twenty to forty pounds. And it was on the hill
on the other side of the side to side trail
that made no sense. There were logs over the trail
going to that side that it was all grown up.
I had to run over trees to get to the
o dried up pond to refill it, and they've just
(07:05):
been broken. There was no signs of any machinery or
anything cutting it. That had made no sense. I didn't
match anything. Why would somebody abandon the property, break these
huge logs and put three of them in a row
over this trail? Made no sense then and again after
(07:27):
we had been here a while. Christmas in twenty nineteen,
my children bought me a cutout a big foot I
put in the backyard, off the porch so I could
see it. Two weeks later, at night, we had whistling
off of our back porch. When my wife was out
on the back porch, she thought it was one of
(07:48):
the kids. She ran in and woke me up. I
didn't hear anything by the time I got out there,
but the dogs had been going crazy, and I matched
nothing of any animal as I ever heard. I'd heard
a matriarchal doe one time whistle, but they would never
go within five yards of dogs jumping up and down
growlly and a fence like that was happening with her.
(08:12):
Two weeks later, I had the house hits on our
bedroom at four forty seven in the morning, picture almost
came off the wall. So then I started thinking and
ruling out everything it could be. It' It wasn't a earthquake,
because earthquake is under the floor. This was high on
(08:34):
the side of the wall, on the outside of the
brick house. It wasn't a tree falling on it. They
were too far away, and there was new bad weather.
It wasn't a jet going by. It woughtn't anything that
I could think of that could have done that. So
the next day I go outside. I even that night,
(08:57):
went and loud, don't lie, to see if maybe there
was an ex loation somewhere nearby. Nothing was reported. The
next morning I go out there and I see the
grass was pressed down. Something had hit the bricks nine
to ten foot up. That makes no sense. I'm tall,
got long arms, I can't reach that high, and here's
(09:17):
something hitting nine to ten foot up and all the
grass is batted down. I was like, that made no sense.
So I started putting it all together. I went and
looked at an article. I went in and put bigfoot
in a town close to me, and it came up
with a bfro siding and in the county that I
(09:43):
was in, and when I started reading it, the location
was hidden. When I started reading it, I could tell
by the roads they were talking about it was really
close to here. So I wanted to contact that person
and find out, you know, where this location was. So
earlier I had met David Vacara in a expedition Bigfoot
(10:07):
in Blue Ridge, and I finally got in touch with
him after several tries, and I was asking him if
he knew anybody at the BFRO and knew this person.
Come to find out he had been in the BFRO,
and he said that that person no longer does it,
and they don't have that person's number anymore. Then he said,
(10:32):
can I ask you some questions? So he asked me
a lot of questions, like did I hunt? Do we
have fruit trees? Do we feed animals? Which we did?
We fed, We had bird stuff out We fed the deer,
we fed the fish. We put all that stuff out there,
the clover and stuff that rabbits were at. You know,
(10:54):
we're feeding everything because we love the outdoors and still
do so, he said. I asked him when he got
done asked me the question, he said, I think I
know what's going on and I said, so what is it?
He said, you know what it is. That's why you're
calling me, you have a big foot. Well that floored
me because really, in reality, I thought there could never
(11:15):
be a big foot, except if one was real over
on the West Coast or Canada Alaska. But everything that
I'm seeing makes no sense to any known animals that
I'd ever been around. So then I asked him, I said,
why do you think that? Because that blew my mind.
I didn't think anybody knew that much about him, and
(11:37):
here he is not only telling me that, and I said,
what do you think it is? He says, they're letting
you know they're there and they want to coexist with you,
And that doesn't blew my mind. And then I said,
well why do you think that? He started asking me
a bunch more questions. Have you had logs or trees
pushed on your driveway?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Have you had your house hit several times on the
side of it at night?
Speaker 6 (12:04):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Have you had things thrown on your roof of your barn,
your back porch.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
No.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Have you had anything gralled at you from the woods.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
No.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
He said, well that's what they would be doing if
they didn't want you there, so I'd always gone by
the thing trust but verify. So I'm going to find
out if they really are here, because I was looking
for deer tracks and I hadn't seen their tracks. I
really wasn't looking for it. I was looking for deer tracks.
But so I decided to put two headless nails on
(12:37):
a tree and stick a red delicious apple on it,
right by that trail that everything was smashed on, because
if there was a big foot there, that was their trail.
And sure enough I went down there and scraped some
of the leaves off, and the leaves underneath it was salt,
and I said, okay, if one walks up here, I'll
(12:58):
see a side of a foot print, which that's exactly
what happened. They took them. I went down there. There
was a footprint sixteen to sixteen and a half inches,
you see the impression, but much wider than a person.
My foot's two to three x wide, thirteen and a
half inches long, and it was much wider than mine.
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So then David got in touch with Scott and Sheila
at Swatch Fishing Outfitters and have them call me in
do the report, and what I'll do now is I'll
let them tell you about that and what happened from
that point.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Yeah, David Mcera got in touch with us. They get
an awful lot of reports at the museum, and when
they get too many that is overwhelming for them to handle,
they'll they'll pass them all to some other investigators to
go and do the report, or for write it up
and turn it back into him. Well, Neil's report just
(14:06):
happened to be one that David had passed off to us,
and I got in touch with Neil and took his report,
got everything jotted down, wrote the report up, set it
on in and that was you know, that was it
on my part at that point. I told Neil at
the time, I said, if you have any other questions
(14:27):
or anything, you know, and you you feel like or
you want to talk to someone, we're always here. You've
got our number, you're more than welcome to call. So
it wasn't too long. Neil calls us back. We're we're
talking back and forth about different things that are happening
on his place, and he invites us down there, me
and she live and another person. We we load up
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and go down there. You know, just look around and
he showed us all the different things that he's seeing
and he has going on, and he shows us a
whole lot of interesting stuff. I mean, here, it's on
down towards the pond. Well me and see that. We
go off in the woods, we you know, cross over
(15:10):
some fence line, old old fence line stuff, and go
down by the creek that's in there. Once we got
down in there, one of the prettiest tracks I've ever
seen in my life, a slide track, was right there
on the side of the creek area. We didn't have
any cast material at the time, because I would have
loved to have casted that track, But we spent a
(15:33):
good little time around there, and it wasn't no doubt
in our mind at the time that he had a
situation going on there. And he finally woked me around
to the house to where the house had gotten hit.
Whatever hit that house, I can assure you it was
a serious, strong hit. It busted the mortar joint on
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that house from the roofline all the way down below
the window. That's a pretty good hit, you know. To
bust a mortar joint that far, you'll hear mortar joints
cracking like that on houses you knew that are new
that have set there in their settling stage. This house
had been there for a long time. The more and
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more we saw there, the more and more we were
both convinced.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Yeah, the footprint really done it for me because I
looked down there and I seen it was like on clay.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
The print was huge.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
We didn't have any cast material, but I took several
pictures of that, and there was a couple more and
there was some tree structures, so it's obviously something was
going on there. He had some kind of activity going on.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
And then Neil carried us around to the pond to
show us the stuff that had been happening at the pond,
and there's one trailer over there, and he was telling
us about this lining and everything that was going across way.
He shows it to us and we getting looking at
it and stating on it pretty good. And you know,
it was amazing because the tree and the vines that
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were laid across and pulled across this trail we're done
in like a fence. See, I mean the vines were
actually tied, they were laced together, they were laced through
the tree limbs and they were like tied in knots.
You know, that was that was extremely unusual, and anybody
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knows you've got to have hands to tie ups. So
when we finally left there, we we were pretty welcome,
you know we were. And over time we stayed in
touch back and forth, and we become friends over the years,
and Kneel went off on a few expeditions with us
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and seeing how things went with us, and you know,
we've just had a really good relationship and really good
friendship the whole time.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
And one thing I will tell you what happened after
we found out they were here, we started interacting with
them and actually build a trust between the family. There
was a family of four here. There was a large male, adult, male, adult, female, juvenile,
and a young one. And they got to the point
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to where they weren't hiding their footprints so I could
kind of track them and tell what they were doing
later on down the road. It got to where this
was a safe zung tool. They had gifted us stuff,
we had gifted them stuff, and I even started feeding them. Now,
I will tell you I don't recommend that at all.
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I was young and stupid in the big foot world
at that time, and I just thought there were a
normal animal like deer raccoons, you know. But I did
start feeding them, and because I wanted to learn everything
about them. I wanted to see how they ate stuff,
what they ate everything. And then not too long after that,
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they made the place a nursery. They made it to
where there would be two to three young ones here
every year. A juvenile would be with each young one
and then the mature mom would kind of oversee the grow. Now,
this went on for several years. Then what happened was
the worst thing in the world.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Happened.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Six hundred acres a safe zone for them to the
North office and got cut clear cut. Then about a
year after that to the North Office, two hundred acres
got cut, and the six hundred acres when it got cut,
it made a funnel area where another person nearby the
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new they were here, started shooting at them when they
would walk by during the daytime. So they disbanded the nursery.
There is still some living here. But I wanted to
give this docum what the deforestation of the woods would do,
but I had to do it with people that I
knew wouldn't give the location away. That's where you know
(20:10):
I've gotten Mark, Scott and Sheila and Nathan because I
know that they're not going to give it away to
go document it. Scott and Sheila already knew about them
and how much activity I had because I kept up
with them. I would take pictures of stuff and send
them pictures. I would I had so much wild stuff
going on. I would call and talk to them about it.
(20:33):
So they came down here to document it. And then
from that point, Mark, I'll let you describe what y'all did,
and Nathan could talk about the cameras and oh, there
were a bunch of cameras that we try to get
pictures with, but none were successful. That doesn't mean they
(20:54):
didn't get anything. But I'll let them describe what that happened.
But Mark, you can take it from here and kind
of cover what y'all did, what y'all saw, and stuff
like that.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Well, just driving in you can tell if there could
be possible bigfoot activity going on, and once entering into
the forest, you see all this stuff like tree bows
(21:27):
and these pathways that they were using, these Tallboy trails.
It was just simply amazing. And I really rely on Nate.
Nate is one of these outfitters that for years he
(21:54):
would go into the woods on his own, and he's
able to read very well what kind of animals could
be possibly there. He knows where to look. I remember
the first time I met Nate, and it was at
LBL and I really observed people, and I just fixated
(22:21):
on Nate and just how he was going about looking
at things. And now I'm thinking, yeah, if I saw this,
then I would move in this direction, or I would
start going into circles looking for the next clue. So
what was your impression, Nate of when we went down there.
(22:45):
Pretty Much like any other place, we show up to.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
Investigate, even if it's a camp, a new camp that
Scott and Sheila had found. The first thing is the
adrenaline rush, and you get out of the truck and
your heart rate picks up, your senses sharpened, especially when
(23:12):
you get on those trails. Every twig that snaps just
amplifies something moving through the brush, whether it's big or small,
it gets your attention. I want to touch on what
Neil said earlier about the nursery. We found a hide
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or a blind, a shelter, whatever you want to call it.
That me and Sheila went into and we were able
to stand up straight in this thing, and it was
divided into two sections. There was a small section that
had a couple of saplings used as railings that were
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going horizontal and on that ground was pressed down the foliage.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
All that was matted.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
So what we figured it looked like a daycare set.
It looked like a playpen to meet and Sheila, So
that really got my attention. I think it was the
second day we were there.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Neil tell us about your first sighting that you had
that just really proved to you to where you wasn't
scratching your head anymore going on one drink that you
have actually laid eyes on. The first sighting was amazing.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
We had a bay window with the table right in
front of it, and I was looking out the bay
window and we've got a side be side trail down there,
and there is something black down there there and it's quatting,
but it's in the middle of where our trail is,
so I knew good in the weld. It didn't match
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any animal, and there was no animal supposed to be
down there, and I kept looking at it and looking
at it, and it was actually squatting down kind of
leaning towards the window, and I started seeing the trouts
that it had seemed like it almost went from the
outside of the shoulders way up on the head about
where the bottle of our ears were, and you can
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see the head. It looked like a juvenile. It looked
like it had been about six foot if it stood up,
but it looked very athletic. But it was squatting down
looking at us. And then I got and told everybody.
I said, look down there, we've got one of the
bigfoot watching us. And then of course my mom said no,
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others said, I don't know. It looks like a black bush.
I said, well, first off, there are the black any
black bushes, and second off, that's in the middle of
our side of the side trail. Now, me being a dummy,
within five steps on me, I got a pair of
monopolars in a drawer and I didn't even think about
getting it to look at it. And I told them,
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I said I could to mark where it is from
where you're sitting, because when we get up to put
our dishes in the seak and you come back, it's
going to be gone. Sure enough, when we came back,
it was gone, so my wife and I went down there,
and sure enough, you could see where the grass was
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pressed down in the road, and you could see where
it had walked into the woods by how the foot
had matched the grass down on the way to the woods.
And it was amazing and it was also very neat
at the same time, because that was the first sighting
we had one and they were There's no doubt in
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my mind they were doing it on purpose. They were
far enough away I couldn't get to them, but we
had done a lot of interactions before that, and there's
nothing about that that tells me anything. But they wanted
me to see them, wanted us to see them at
that point, and then it started from there. I've seen
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three more that I know one hundred percent, and I
have a high standard for calling a sighting. For me
to call the siding, I have to see hair, facial features,
know it's nothing else. And it was just it was
crazy because everyone I've seen I see something different on it.
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From that one the traps going as high up as
it did. From one of them, is hand was just huge.
And another one the ears I saw baby real close
at about seven yards and its ear was flatter than ours.
It was a little bit lower than a little bit
smaller than ours, So I got a side view of it,
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and it was seitting it. It was in a position
like a rabbit would be, and when I saw those ears,
I knew exactly what it was because I'd smelled it
before that. So I had three others that I don't
call sighting, but it's ninety percent. And the only reason
I say that is because if there's an escape chimpanzee somewhere,
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it could possibly be a chimpanzee, because too of a
move like a chimpanzee. The other one was on the
gifting station and it slid down like a little kid
sliding down off of a playground equipment, which no animal
does out and the way it moved, its arms and
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all were outside its body frame. It moved spider ish,
not exactly like a spider, but it was weird because
everything was kind of outside the body. But I didn't
get to know definitely. That's why I don't say it's
one hundred percent, even though I don't think it could
have been anything but that. I just but I won't
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call it a siding be called of that. And then
I've seen bunches of shapes and shadows in the woods.
But you know, I can't call that a siding. I
just it doesn't meet my parameter of what I do.
I want to be sure about what I see.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
One thing that I really appreciate about everyone that is
on here, we have to prove it. We try to
eliminate anything, any evidence that a lot of people want
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to drive and if they find one footprint or one
tree bow, then they just want to jump back in
their car and get phone reception and tell the world wide. Well,
you know that they found evidence of a bigfoot. But
everybody here is diligent when it comes to following up
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and trying to prove that it is not a bigfoot.
And for those that don't know, Scott and Sheila asked
me to be an outfitter with them last year for
Squatch Fish and Outfitters, and I was just so humble
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that they would ask me because just being in the
field and watching how they operate, there's no alpha males
and better yet, no alpha females. And it is great
that whenever somebody thinks something or wants to try rise
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something that everybody listens, we talk about it, and everybody
gives one hundred percent. That is so important that when
you go into the woods that everybody is on the
same game plan. Scott and Sheila tell us a little
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bit more about when we went back this last time
in May, how things could possibly be changing because of
the clear cutting.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
Well, one thing we noticed right off that we got
there and we've seen the area that was being clearcut,
and how devastating the clear cutting was. We're not talking,
you know, a thinning of the forest. We are talking
about cutting into the dirt. And like what Neil had
said earlier, the way it is being cut down, but
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it is becoming like a funnel area for where his
property has the only poor around there. And I think
we noticed was we didn't see as much evidence as
we did the first time we went there before. Old couldn't.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
But the one thing, like Nate said, that just tickled
me to death. I was just I mean, I was
bounce off the wall. We found those blinds, which you
want to call them, a smaller one and then the
bigger one, you know, be honest, shut it out to me,
that's what that was, because it didn't make no sense
for it to be anything else, especially the way they
were structured. And the limbs, and you know they're just
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woven together. You know, a deer didn't do that, and
I don't I pretty sure knew it wasn't out there,
you know, weaving them together just to play hide and seek.
But I can't tell you how shocked I was about that.
And then you know with the gifting station out there,
with all the food he was putting out, and we
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looked at that, I mean, there was Prince there. There
was trails leading from there. Yeah, there's there's going to
be you know, squirrels, wrapped UNEs and everything else.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
And sure it could have been some of that, but
it was.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
Not all of that, all of the wildlife creatures. I'm
telling you that it was not. There was Prince there,
and then a lot of people. I don't know if
we told everybody this, but the third night we were
there and we were standing in Neil's camper, how big
the camper that this big motor home, big motor home is.
Scott and I were sleeping in that back bedroom back there,
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and everybody was asleep. It was Nie, Scott and Nate
and Mark was at the front. But something hit that
camper that third night and it moved. I mean it
hit the side of it, you know. I remember asking
Nate that next morning, did you get up? You know,
And I know Scott didn't, so I don't know what
it was. But I'll never get over that one.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
And you know, the part about I was totally shot.
And Neil had been telling me things about this, about
how things were going and how things were slowing down,
and he was getting really concerned and he was looking
for a way, you know, to preserve what he had,
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you know, to get it documented and everything. He taught
with me more and more about it, and then one
day he hit me up and he asked me about
Mark filming it, doing the documentary on it, and I
told him it was a wonderful idea. You know, at
this point in time, it was a few years back.
Several people try to get in his place to do
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some filming work and all that, and he alled me
and asked me about it, and I gave you my opinion,
my personal opinion, you know, the best I could at
that time. And my answer to it at that point
in time was no. And reasoning for it, I said,
if you ever let anyone in there filming, you know,
we're gonna get out everybody's going to know where this
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place is at, and you're gonna get all kind of
encroachment not only on your place, but the surrounding areas
around you. And he agreed. And when all this, like
I said, when all this started, you know, his concern
was to get the point documented to where it will
be preserved for what he had. So he got in
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touch with Mark and got the ball on that, and
that's what brings us up here to where we're at today.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
One thing I wanted to say, this happens so much.
So many people think it's just as easy as putting
a game camera out to get a picture of these creatures.
They are so wrong. I had ten to twelve cameras
out in the beginning so I could monitor the deer.
I never got a picture of one. I got glimpses
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of hair after I asked them to show me what
they look like. After I knew they were here, and
I started getting glimps a hair on the side of
the camera. But they know electronics. They know the electronics
is there, whether it's the electronics from the inside they
can detect, whether it's the infrared, whether they can hear
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the sound. I don't know what it is, but they
can detect it. I've had cameras before this time. I've
had cameras that were brand new, worked about a week
and then just got fried. I've had them turn them
sideways and then see a deer where they am boosted
deer near the feeder because you can see where the
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feet had just drug the ground loosely limply. I had
them to where the batteries went dead after one week,
when another one somewhere else went three months with the
same batteries out of the same one, and that one
had always done the same thing. So there's weird things
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that they could do. It's not as is putting cameras
out there now. Whenever we were out there most of
the time, I let Scott, Sheila, Nathan, and Mark do
whatever they wanted to do. I just kind of left
them alone. There were several reasons for that. My mom
was sick, so I had to kind of watch her.
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I was up most of the night a lot of
the nights helping her. But I wanted them to be unbiased.
I wanted them to see what they could see. I
wanted them to go where they wanted to go. There's
certain areas I kind of wanted them to stay out off.
There were areas where I knew they were that I
stayed out off, and the area where they found those
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two structures, I knew that they stayed there because the
mom stayed up on top of the hill above them,
and down there is where I knew and see shadows
of the little ones watching me as I went by,
So I knew that they were down there, but I
knew the mom stayed up on the hill from vocalizations
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and things like that. But there's other area, and they
just they knew I wasn't going to go in it,
but I wanted them to go and see the stuff
on their own. And then when they were putting cameras out,
I wasn't down there when they did it. But why
don't y'all talk about the cameras y'all put out and
all the stuff that happened to the AUS cameras down
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there near the gift of station.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Fill us in, Nate on what happened with your camera
that we had set up by the feeding station.
Speaker 8 (38:40):
I actually got it right here, So if you hadn't
seen our documentary yet, what we did was on this
one here. We were able to turn the IUR off
or on, and we had ther turned off, and it's
got a little magnet on the back. We get stick
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it on the bottom of a trailer or you know,
a camp or trailer or a cook stove or whatever,
and pick up anything it might come walking through camp.
Hopefully we could get something, whether it's just regular barmuts
or whatever. We didn't have anything that metallic that we
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could have put this thing on. So we found some hedges.
It was alongside of the gift in station, just overgrown hedges,
and they were like some small spindley little offshoots from
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the hedges that we found, and we actually put this
little camera between two of the offshoots and we were
able to tighten it up with a zip type. We
just put tension on the bottom of those offshoots and
it clamped the camera in. They're pretty tight. The next
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morning we found the camera on the ground and behind
those hedges. We seen some impressions coming up to the
back of the camera where it may have just flipped
the camera out of those spring loaded offshoots that we
had fastened this thing into. So we took the SD
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card back to base camp and Mark checked the footage.
If I ain't mistaken, there was something like three hours
of footage on this but nothing from that previous night.
I know it works personally. I've tested it before leaving
out for camp. Charged it left it running in the house,
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come back and check and it picked up everything I
was doing, folding laundry, drinking coffee whatever. I've used it
in the yard out here, picking up the stray dogs
coming through, getting into the cat food whatever.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
It works.
Speaker 8 (41:07):
But for there to be three hours of footage and
nothing from the previous night, I don't know. I can't
explain that. And the fact that it was flipped out
and laying on the ground, I have no explanation.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
So we're at park.
Speaker 8 (41:26):
We can't explain what goes on with the cameras or electronics.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
I know for a.
Speaker 8 (41:35):
Fact that my best picture that I had taken it
come from a cheap night vision Amazon camera. If they
want you to see them, they'll let you. I don't
care if it's and for red thermal whatever. If they
want you to see them, they'll let you, even with
a naked eye. I've seen them with a naked eye.
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Scott and Sheila had Neil. If they want you to
see them. You're going to see it. They want you
to have a picture, You'll get a picture. But as
far as the malfunctions, I don't know. I've had batteries
go dead in the field. I was anticipating that for
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a long time, and there was a long period where
I wasn't having that phenomenon until all of a sudden,
batteries going dead, things like that thermal screen going blank.
Of course, I don't know. Maybe the data was running
low because I run a thermal off of my iPhone.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
I think that's something most investigators have experienced in the field.
I know I could think of a dozen times that
has happened to me. I can think of times where
there was four of us out there and everything from
camcorders to recorders to thermals everything went dead and there
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was activity going on around us. And once the activity
left the area, then everything started working. I don't have
answers for it, but we do know that you can
have a fully charged camera or recorder and it goes dead.
(43:36):
It absolutely goes dead, and then you get back to
camp and it's fully charged like it was. So it's
just really really strange to me. It's a phenomenon, and
it was really something to see that those impressions that
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came up to the hedge, and then we found that
camera laying on the ground and there's no video footage
of that camera being knocked out of that hedge mark.
Speaker 8 (44:13):
You had a plotwatcher on the opposite side of the
gifting station, right, Did you get any images from that?
Speaker 4 (44:24):
I did not, And there was missing time. I run
a timestamp on all of my plotwatchers, and there was
missing time in there. And that plotwatcher was pointing towards
your camera.
Speaker 8 (44:41):
Letting yours turned at one point.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Both nights it was turned and it was not in
the same position, and I mean it was on their tight.
I had it sitting on a limb with a bungee
cord wrapped around it, so it would have it would
have taken something to actually put hands or put something
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on it to turn it like that.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
And I've actually had them in the field where I've
gotten the stump feeders where I feed the deer. They've
actually moved these stump feeders closer to the edge so
they can grab them, and they've actually turned on where
I had it so tight that it rubbed the bark off,
and that's one of the one time that I found
the little deer hoof's just dragging on the ground. I
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figured it must have broke his neck or something and
didn't want me to see it because I had the
camera right at it. And they turned it so much
that the bark on that tree was just was ripped
turned as it turned it around, and actually on the
camera you can actually see a fingerprint for a picture
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or two. So I guess it was hot and had
moisture on it and then disappeared. But it's crazy all
the stuff they can do now. One thing, when we
were down there looking at the gifting station, we kind
of cut some limbs away, so we want to reduce
as much as we could to get other animals to
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not be able to interfere with the food up there. Okay,
so Scott mentioned about putting sheep metal around the four
posts going up to the roof, and I did that
after they left, and I started putting food on the
top of it because it's really tall. It's probably seven
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and a half a foot tall something like that. But
I would put like peanut butter, I would put different
things on the top and it's still disappearing off the
top of it, and with that sheep metal, there isn't
anything that should be able to climb up there to
get that off. That's just some things I try to
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do to reduce misidentification. I think that Sent's got a
picture of it the other day, But you know, we
try to do everything we can do to stop any
misidentification of what's doing what. And I learned a lot
by how they open things. So a lot of times
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I can just tell by how it's opened what did
it because you don't see claw marks, you don't see
teeth marks. And they have a very unique way of
opening different containers. The peanut butter box, they have a
unique way of opening it and pulling it out. It's
not the way we do the same with the packages
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on the inside. They don't grab them from the end
and rip them. They grabble from the sides and pull
them open. And if a raccoon or something like that
did it, you would see the little claw marks or
little teeth marks, and they're not. It's just the strength
of them grabbing that plastic and pulling it from the
sides and it comes open. So there's a lot of
things I've learned from putting the food down there. But
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it's really neat when you start doing things to try
to rule out other animals and start really observing how
things are done, and you know, being able to rule
out other animals. You've got peanut butter jars that when
a raccoon gets it, he'll eat a hole into the
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bottom so we can get it out of the bottom
when they eat it out of it. It's clean, I
mean it's clean on the inside, and most raccoons can't
even reach to the bottom of a peanut butter jar.
So it's just really unique all the stuff you can
learn about them, especially when you got them a living
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around you a lot like we have here. The ones
that are here are here year round. They don't migrate.
There are some that migrate other places, but not here now.
The ones that we here originally are not here right now.
I believe there is a young male, a young adult male,
a young adult female, and they had another baby this
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year and maybe a young one, so there's still four
that's in the area a lot, but it's nothing like
it was when the nursery was here. It was they
would come look in the window to watch TV. That
would tap on the house if you were playing music,
because they love music. It was really really something when.
Speaker 5 (49:36):
All that was going on.
Speaker 4 (49:40):
Let's talk about obituation, and that is something that you
kind of have two camps on. Some people say don't
do it, and then some people do it. And this
is something that when me and Neil first started talking
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that I wanted to make sure that him and his
family were protected about this and that there was a
backup plan. You can't just feed them for years and
then just all of a sudden just stop cold turkey
like that. And so I really appreciate how Neil's family is.
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They have all come together and Christy is so good
about what she does because I don't know if she
was ever a believer until she started experiencing these first things.
But I think it's something that if you choose to
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habituate to feed, that you do have a backup plan,
because there are some horror stories out there where somebody
might go into a hospital or somebody might be gone awhile,
but this relationship that you have built with them, there
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has really been nothing that was negative that has happened.
And so for me, that's a positive thing, and it
shows that Neil is going.
Speaker 5 (51:27):
About it the right way.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Well, I think you have to be lucky too. You
have to have a group that's willing to be friendly
to you. And I really think the male says the
rules for the most part. But the situation here was
the female had a lot of input. But if they
hadn't wanted to coexist with us, if they never let
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me know they were here, I would still seeing be
seeing things going on that I had no idea what
was making it happen. But they let me know they
were here. Then as I started gifting them, they started
gifting me back. We said, they want to coexist with us,
and I think they try to learn from as much
about us as we do about them, and they pattern
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us because when we do things different, they actually come
after We've had a party and checked onnus. I've got
footprints on the back porch where they were behind the
fern looking at us, making sure we were okay on
the inside. But you're right, you never know what can happen.
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That's the reason I always tell people that I was
really young in the Bigfoot stuff. I was fifty to fifty,
that there might be one still alive. But Christy never
thought they were alive at all. But she's seen so
much and heard so much now that she knows absolutely,
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you know, and we just laugh about it. We're good
with them. We kind of set up rules. One of
my rules was no looking in the windows. One of
them was don't hit the house. You can tap on it,
but don't hit it. Don't come in the house, don't
damage our car or the side of a side. Now
they have din it in a door, trying to push
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it open rather than pulling it. And they've got rules
with me. There's certain areas they don't want me to
go into. They don't want me taking pictures of them.
They don't want me trying to hurt them, and don't
want me to bring in people into their area. Which
that's the reason why I one of the reasons why
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I never brought anybody in here. But when I did,
I had to choose people that I knew that would
protect them, because most people wouldn't. Most people would go say,
I know, whether there's a bunch of them, You know,
I don't need that. We were friendly with this family.
We have built up a relationship with them, sort of
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like an extended family. They've actually warned us of danger,
and I know that it's true. I mean, what animal
would do that? And I tell you just a little
example of that. I took one of our relatives and
her friend to the pond to feed the fish. Now,
i'd heard lightning off in the distance, but the wind
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was blowing that way, so I thought there was no
way that the storm was going to come our way.
And get down to the pond. All of a sudden,
I hear lightning a little bit closer.
Speaker 5 (54:38):
I hear a.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Tree bank snout twenty five yards from us, really loud,
and I get the feeling they're trying to tell us
we need to leave now. So I told them, I said,
let's go, we need to leave now. And our relatives said,
are we in danger? Because she knows about them, She's
seen the prince, she seen the tracks, she's even seen
one with her son. And I said, no, they're letting
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us know that a storm's about to hit and we
need the leap. So we go as fast as we can.
We get back to the house. Now, they said they
heard lightning strike at the pond. I didn't hear it,
so I can't verify that. But we were two steps
in the house and a hell storm came, hell started
coming down, lighting started to strike like crazy. If we
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hadn't left, then we would have been in the middle
of it. And they warned us of it coming. And basically,
if they hadn't done that, you know, we could have
got hit in the head with some hells stroke by
light and you don't know, but they actually warned us
of that. Normal animals don't do that. You know, you're
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dealing with something much smarter than the normal animals. I believe.
Speaker 4 (55:53):
I'm humble and I'm excited to be a part of
this project because I know there are other people that
are out there that are going through this or land
around them. It's being encroached and that has to be
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a negative towards the humans because it only makes sense
that they can associate us with other humans. What says
that Neil might just all of a sudden start cutting
his timber down, But this trust that they have with him,
(56:39):
it's encouraging. And so we just really want to document
what's going on right now. And in the documentary we
talk about some of the experiences that Neil and Christy
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have had on the property over the years. So this
film is to be continued, and we're going to see
what happens. I would like for Scott and Sheila to
talk a little bit about Squatch Fish and Outfitters because
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I have been involved with hundreds of people in different groups,
but the first time being in the field with them,
I was just so impressed with how they conduct themselves
in the field. So Scott and Sheila talked to us
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a little bit about y'all's outings and taking people out,
because not everybody has the time to go out and
put boots on the ground and spend you know, their
life looking for these things. But it's like someone that
might want to go fishing in a different part of
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the country and so they pick an outfitter, you know,
somebody that knows where the fish are at in his experience.
So Scott and Sheila tell us a little bit more
about Squatch Fishing Outfitters. Well, we started up Squatch Fishing
Outfitters several years ago.
Speaker 5 (58:29):
We're in about in our fourth season of actually taking
out expeditions. We've been doing it longer than that, but
as far as doing expeditions, we've been doing for four
seasons now. We originally started it to enable people that
wanted to go do this and avenue they could that
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was affordable for everyone, that anyone that wanted to do
it could do it, because there's other places out there
that could go, but it's extremely expensive. We decided we
would venture into this and along with fly fishing deal
guiding fly fishing, and as we got one into it
more and more it started growing a little bit and
(59:13):
we realized that we could do this by ourselves right
along our own, we had to have additional help. So
then it was to find people, you know, that we
met with. We all could trust each other because when
you're out in the woods in the middle of the night,
people that knows what I'm talking about, it's dark out there,
(59:36):
something starts happening, and the last thing you want to
do is turn around to find your buddy and him
not be there. Well, that's not the kind of people
you want with you. And that's why we have folks
like Nate, Mark and Hailey and the other people that
we have with us, is because there's no doubt in
my mind if something goes sideways, I don't have to
(59:56):
I don't have to wonder where they're at. They're right
there with me. No, you've got to have that kind
of camaraderie, brotherhood, whatever you want to call it, that
good feeling doing what we do.
Speaker 6 (01:00:09):
And we try to make everybody feel like family, you know,
that's our goal. I mean, And we want when people come,
if they're new or whatever, we want them to feel comfortable.
You know. Of course you were in the woods with
a bunch of strangers.
Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
That's big foots.
Speaker 6 (01:00:23):
I mean, as comfortable as you can possibly feel like
minded people, and you know, so that's our goal. So
usually when people come, they you know, they enjoy it,
they leave us friends and I can honestly say we
have at least ninety nine percent returns, you know, so,
and yeah, that's why we do it. We do it
(01:00:44):
because we were interested in it, really didn't know how
to go about doing it. And this is what we do.
This is what we enjoy. So as long as we.
Speaker 5 (01:00:51):
Can, as long as we can keep it going, we will. Yeah,
because everybody that's on this show right now knows we
don't make no money. At the end of the year.
If I break even, I'm tickled to death.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Yeah. We do it because we enjoy and if I
can say something about it, it is good food, good
friendship and a good time. I mean, I've gone several times,
and I wish I could go every time, but due
to some circumstances that I'm in, it just doesn't. It's
kind of hard to get away. But some of the
(01:01:26):
stuff that's happened is just crazy. I mean, from sitting
by the fire pit and having little pebbles and acorse
thrown by you and near you here in mouth pops
come up in the woods behind you, within ten yards
of you, and not know if it's going to reach
out and touch it in the next second. I mean,
(01:01:47):
there's some really neat stuff that goes on. You can
learn a lot about them by listening to Scott and Sheila,
listening to what's going on around you.
Speaker 6 (01:01:56):
I think, like you were saying, well, ago you build
a t us will, I think we're in the woods
so much. I really truly believe that they recognize us.
And most of y'all know we have activity at our
house too. And you're talking about them knowing what's going
on at your house. They know what's going on here.
If Scott was to be gone for a couple of days,
they know it.
Speaker 5 (01:02:17):
Oh yeah, no doubt about that, you know. And back
to what I was saying, will Ga, Well, we chose
people you know to be with us, you know, on
this venture and everything. We were very careful about in
our choosing of people. And like I said, you know,
you want you want that perfect person with you, and
(01:02:40):
that's really and truly a hard thing to find and
we have been overly blessed. I mean, I say that
from the bottom of my heart with people that are
with Squash Fishing Outfitters. I'll be a little bit biased
about what I'm going to say, but I will say
that I personally think we have one of the best
teams out there experience knowledge with electronics because we have
(01:03:06):
to have that with me and she don't have none.
Speaker 7 (01:03:09):
Well, we don't have.
Speaker 6 (01:03:10):
Knowledge of all this. I call Haley my person now.
Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
You know. And I'm just proud of each and every
one of the people that are involved with us, because
we could not do it without Job.
Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
One thing you said she love about They know when
he's gone. They pattern you so much. They know so
much more than you think they do. For example, when
I go and I'm bringing in Walmart back to the house,
they know that I've got stuff in the back of
my truck for them and you'll see little footprints, come
(01:03:46):
in a lot of times and look in the back
window to see what's in there. For they don't go
in it. They don't hit the car. I have found
fingerprints and stuff on the car, but they'll actually come
look in the back the night that I'm bringing the
wall more bags then to see what's in the back
for them. That's crazy. But they've patterned you so much
(01:04:06):
that they know that I'll leave it in there because
they've washed and seen me take it out, so they
go check it out. It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (01:04:15):
They're like the best nosiest neighbors you could ever have.
Speaker 5 (01:04:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Well, Nate, do you have any final thoughts that you
would like to leave our audience with.
Speaker 8 (01:04:29):
I'd like to after what Scott said about being trustworthy
in having each other's back, that if anything happened to
one of us, we turn around and the other one's
not there. Somebody's not bringing up the beer.
Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
He's gone.
Speaker 8 (01:04:45):
That's been verified. We were coming out of the ridges
in West Virginia and I was bringing up from beer.
The group was following the asphalt back to the trucks
around the field. I shot straight across that field and
(01:05:07):
I thought I'm at third peripherals. Surely they're going to
see me and follow me. It's a shortcut, right, Well,
we get back to the trucks. Scott Sheila had turned
around and heading back into those ridges to buy me.
So that's been verified. We do that for anybody that's sure.
Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
Absolutely, Scott Sheila. Do y'all have any final thought?
Speaker 5 (01:05:37):
Well, if anyone out there would like to get in
on one of these expeditions, on one of these outings
we put on now, look us up on Facebook or
go to TikTok and find us on their squash fishing outfitters.
We're pretty easy. Fine, we put a lot of good
information on there and we're getting pretty decent to that TikTok.
(01:05:58):
So people to know this.
Speaker 6 (01:06:00):
I want people to know you don't have to be
no trifle on winter or whatever. You know, we're not
hiking in the woods ten miles and that's not where
we're about. I mean, and it's just we don't have
to go far. We kind of put you where you
need to be and you know, if you want to
hike a little bit deeper, that's fine. But like I say,
people that want to do this that don't think they can,
(01:06:22):
I want them to know that they can. They absolutely can.
Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
Yes, because we have situations set up to where anyone
that wants to go can. If it's a physical disability
to where they can't hike, we have a sitting group
and that's for people that are either in that situation
or that just don't want to hike off in the
Mimorble woods at night. And a lot of times that
group has just as much, if not more activity in
(01:06:47):
than the hiking group. So we do our very best
to fit everything into everybody's needs, and again, if it
wasn't for everybody else, we'll be able to do all that.
Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
Neil, do you have any final faults that you would
like to leave us with.
Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
I would like for everybody to go and watch the
documentary and Mark you can tell them what it is
and everything. It's on YouTube. I've seen it several times
and there's always things you can miss and pick up on.
But hopefully we have more to show and more to come.
Hopefully some of the woods grow back and they move
(01:07:27):
back into the area. Right now, we still have some
that want to stay here and live here, which is
a good thing, but if they don't go and start
building on the property, in a few years it'll start
growing back, and I think they'll come back as long
as it's people don't go and start shooting at them
(01:07:50):
and a bunch of stuff like that, and then we
can maybe have a nursery again. And the nursery is
an amazing thing. You have so many little prints running
around is crazy. But Mark, you want to tell them
about the documentary and the names and how they could
find it.
Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
Absolutely. I have a YouTube channel that is called Sawdust
Peast and saw dust is spelled with two teams at
the end and Larry Porch and myself. We had a
live podcast for years on there and we've had so
(01:08:30):
many great guests. But I'm looking forward to the future.
The film that will be coming out next If you
are familiar with my channel, is when I asked Scott
Espinosa can Squatch to come with me to PJ Arkansas's
(01:08:53):
place where they live and they have boogers around them,
and so it was amazing weekend that we spent there.
And really the first couple of times I just went
by myself into the woods and camped in the woods.
(01:09:14):
But I wanted somebody there that would actually witness and
confirm things that would happen. So I'm excited about that
film and I'm trumping at the bit to do the
next one with it was Scott and Sheila and Nate
(01:09:35):
and we were at LBL and we had some strange
things going on and not all of it was Bigfoot,
and so far, I'm leaning at the title of being
called Spirits of LBL because it will blow your mind
(01:10:03):
whenever we go to do that. So I want to
thank everybody for coming on tonight. I especially want to
thank Vic Vic, the person that you hear on his podcast.
That is who he is in real life, and I
(01:10:23):
just have so much respect for him, and he's just
such a kind hearted individual and I wish that there
were more people that were out there like Vic doing
these different podcasts. So with that said, we want to
(01:10:43):
thank everybody for listening and we will see you again
real soon. Good Night, everybody, Good night, good night.
Speaker 9 (01:10:56):
Well that's it for tonight show. If you've had a
big Foot sighting and I would like to be a guest,
please go to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com and let
us know. Thanks for listening, have a great night.
Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Seen a bunch of run down no horse towns where
the church is the backbone loves and the bow and
the fasting melodies.
Speaker 7 (01:11:15):
Coove in.
Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
That the bomb man rose, where the roofs run deep
beyond the nose of the busy streets with the songs
of the South o Su Then I mean, I hear
the promp porch picking down home rhythm, bringing out I
don't run from Banjum music. Yeah, the sound of a
(01:11:42):
memory brings me back to the bluegrass playing the Madadi jack.
It's become an.
Speaker 10 (01:11:49):
It been through it, getting through the deal on scrubs
and skags, booking name bears thro this Tennessee jams.
Speaker 7 (01:12:00):
There's no the way that I do it.
Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
And I hear the round boards piacking down home rhythm
bringing out that a run from ben Jong music.
Speaker 11 (01:12:12):
Yeah, summon dolling backwards backwards and double time poking into
the sword and the strumming looking tuck start. There's nothing
in the strumming out country boy living. And I hear
the bum boats picking down rhythm, bringing us that all
from from men.
Speaker 7 (01:12:33):
Rings, the city last trous me wild on the tune,
miss the.
Speaker 10 (01:12:48):
Cars rushing by with the beasts on the sterios to man,
and I hear the brown buch picking down home rhythm
bringing nuts far from.
Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Bunch of music.
Speaker 11 (01:13:04):
Yeah, summing, gallop, back words back, what's in double tub,
getting in the sword and the strumming looking Turkey stars.
Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
There's the strumming down cuts.
Speaker 7 (01:13:15):
Your born living.
Speaker 11 (01:13:17):
I'm gonna hear the bum boats picking down rhythm bringing
us bad from the past. Sing, gallop, back words back, onson,
(01:13:49):
double tim getting in the sword and the strumming looking
Turki Starscause the strumming down cuts your boy living. When
I hear the pop bots picking down a room
Speaker 10 (01:14:00):
From the brachick and boatswing Mama's best sweet tea kind
of sound round the medal music
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