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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Seen a bunch of run down, no horse towns where
the church is the backbonels and the bow and the
fasting melodies coove in with the bone man rose with
the roofs, run deep beyond the nose of the busy
streets with the songs of the South of s. Then
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and I hear the prompt pot picking down home rhythm
bringing out I Don't Run from Banjung music.
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My name is Johnny. I live in West Georgia. I
am married, been married for sixteen years now. I have
three children, and you know, basically I'm just a normal guy.
I spent six years in the Marine Corps Infantry, did
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about three and a half years as a firefighter and
ended up moving and now I work, we'll just say
the travel industry. But in twenty let's see, once at
twenty eleven we moved to the house that I'm living
in right now, and it is in West Georgia kind
of in a semi rural area. If you imagine Atlanta,
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and then you get the outskirts of Atlanta, and then
you get the suburbs, then you've got semi rural area,
and then you've got the super rural area. The more
west you go to Alabama, I gets more rule. Well,
I'm right there in that semi rural area, right next
to a very large wildlife management area, which I think
that has a lot to do with the experiences I've
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had over the years. But about twenty seventeen ish twenty eighteen,
I've only got three neighbors. I've got one neighbor that's
about one hundred and fifty yards in front of me,
and then a neighbor that's about seventy five yards to
my left. Well, the neighbor in front of me, there's
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like I think, it's like we'll say three houses, the
house in front of me, and then they've got two
houses in front of them. It's all one family. Well,
how everything started, and I say around twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,
because I wasn't you know, I wasn't documenting any of this.
Back then, I had absolutely no interest in it at all.
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In fact, I guess the only thing I really really
looked into back then was like UFOs. I was kind
of into that, and I watched Finding Bigfoot and stuff
with the kids every once in a while. That was
pretty much it. But my neighbors they started and somebody
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basically harassed them at night, and at first I just
thought we all thought it was children they have at
the time. I think the boy was about fourteen, and
then a twelve year old girl that was in, you know,
in that family of the three houses, and this one
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particular house was like the target of all this activity.
And basically all it was is beating on the side
of the house, throwing rocks at the house, throwing sticks
at the house, stuff like that. Well, it went on
for I don't know how long, made a couple of
weeks or something, probably longer than that, probably about a month,
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because it got to the point to where I started
getting a little concerned. I started getting involved. I actually
knew the uh the father of that family uh really well,
and my wife was friends with his wife. So eventually,
after about a month, three weeks whatever it was of
them having this activity over there. I started getting involved.
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So something would happen, and a lot of times they
would call me or I would hear the commotion going
on over there, I'd see flashlights, whatever, and basically something
would happen and I would just run over there and
ask me what's going on, and they tell me, I
all something to hit the house or somebody through a rock,
blah blah blah. And after so many months of this
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going on, I started to get concerned because, like I said,
I'm you know, I'm not Rainbow, but I spent a
lot of time at night, like you know, basically hunting
people basically and avoiding and hunting people. And it just
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didn't make any sense to me how these individuals, whoever
they were, you know, at first I thought was children,
how they were getting away with everything they were doing.
And then the fourteen year old boy, he told me
that him and his grandfather were walking down the driveway
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one night and he got hit in the chest with
a rock and he ran out in the woods and
couldn't find anybody. Well, the only time anybody over there
ever saw anyone was that fourteen year old boy, and
his dad told me that I don't remember exactly what happened,
but something happened where he came outside and he heard
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like running off or whatever. So he goes over to
the tree line and there's a trail that runs around
the perimeter of their property and goes up towards this neighborhood,
this up on the hill. And his father told me
that the kid ran out there, and probably about sixty
yards away, there was a huge guy in all black
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standing in the middle of that trail looking at him,
and that boy apparently custom him, and then this big,
huge guy just stepped off into the woods. Well that
was the only time anybody ever saw anything. And when
he told me that, you know, all this stuff came
just a little bit out of time. It started, you know,
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picking up these odd things that were going on and
realizing that, wait a second, this this just isn't normal.
And it definitely wasn't It definitely wasn't an animal, you know,
with the rock throwing and everything else. And I remember
going over there one night, well actually one afternoon. The
guy came and got me. He's like, hey man, let
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me show you something. And he takes into his backyard
and at the edge of the yard there's this big
pine tree, and at the base of the pine tree,
all the grass is worn down like somebody had been
sitting there, like night after night or whatever. And it's
lined up with his daughter's bedroom window. And you know,
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he was super concerned with all this activity going on.
And then I think it was after that one of
the other family members that lives in one of the
three houses works for the sheriff's department. So when these
things would happen, they would start calling the Sheriff's department
and they would I mean, they were coming out here
like once every two weeks or so, and again I
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would get involved. I'd go out there and I'd meet them,
and then i'd show them around. I'd walk them around
the trails that are back there, you know, trying to
find how they're getting away. It was just so confusing.
And then one night I went over there after something happened,
and there's a creek on the side of the house,
so you go down the hill through the creek. Well,
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I'm looking around the creek and I'm walking back up
the hill, and when I got to the top of
the hill, the dogs started barking at me, and I
happened to look down and there were two of these
little like teepee structures. There's like little sticks maybe seven
eight inches long, and there were three of them, like
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a little teepee and they were, I don't know, maybe
three or four feet apart. And I noticed that if
I'm standing up and I would walk up that hill
and stop at the little teepee structures, the dogs wouldn't bark.
But as soon as I went past those teepee structures,
the dogs would bark. And I'm like, what in the world,
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who is who is going through this amount of effort
to do whatever it is that they're doing out here,
And they weren't. They weren't damaging anything. You know, they
were throwing rocks and sticks at the hoe through the
rock at the boy, but for the most part, it's
not like they were stealing anything or destroying anything. So
it was very, very confusing. I think where things really
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started to change for me is one of the nights
where I'm at my house and I hear rifle fire,
and I go and I grab my gun and I
run over to their house and he's standing outside with
a rifle with an AR fifteen, and I'm like, Dad,
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what's up? And he said well, they did their back,
or they did it again, and I can't remember exactly
what happened. They threw something at the house again or whatever.
So he grabbed his ar, he came outside, he fired
a few rounds into the dirk, and then he called
the cops. Well, I'm also standing there with an AR fifteen.
So I'm like, you know, I don't want to be
standing here when the cops get here. So I go
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over to the woodline that splits my property and his property,
and I just simply take a knee. And I'm sitting
there with my rifle, looking around, listening, and he's going
to put his rifle up, but I know he's got
a pistol on him. He's standing in the middle of
his front yard with his arms crossed, just like waiting
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on the cops, just kind of kicking dirt and just waiting.
And I'm just watching over him and looking in the
woods and you know whatever. And as I'm looking at him,
his back is towards me. I watch a stick about
eighteen inches long, about as big around as my thumb,
come flying out of the woodline that's like directly in
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front of him, from about sixty feet away. That woodline's
at least sixty feet away from where he was standing,
and I watched his stick fly end over end and
hit him right in the chest. It hits him in
the chest. It obviously scares him. He cusses, he runs,
he falls as he's going up the stairs, and he
goes inside. And when I watched that, that was like
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the kind of like the aha moment. I think there
was various aha moments throughout, but watching that, it was
just like it just just didn't make any sense for
a human to be doing that, for a person even
have to be super dumb to do that, to go
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and mess with somebody's house. The owner comes outside with
a rifle, fires into the ground. I show up with
a rifle and he's still standing and you're going to
hit him with a stick. It just didn't make sense. Well,
shortly after that, things started happening around my property, and
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it was just little stuff. At first, I'd hear weird
noises and eventually like one of the weirdest things that
I remember that first happened. Well, there was two really
my dogs. I've got German shepherds, I raised German shepherds,
and I've got a horse sense that goes around my
property and I'm outside, I'm outside a lot, and my
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dogs go crazy and they run down the where my driveway,
the garage side of my driveway, and I run down
there and the dogs were barking into the woods. And
I'm standing there and I've got a flashlight, and there's
these palettes that I had stacked up right there next
to the fence, and I couldn't see it over the
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brush that's right there on the other side of my fence.
So I stood up on those pallets to shine my
flashlight and that's when I heard my first wood knock.
And it was super loud, like, it was so loud
it was confusing. I couldn't figure out how a human
made that type of noise. Is how loud it was
without it being a gun. I mean, it was just whack,
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and you know, that was pretty much it. That's all
I heard at that moment, was that loud wood knock.
But I had heard about wood knocks work, and I'm
assuming from you know, watching TV with my kids and
stuff finding Bigfoot and other you know, from time to time,
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i'd watch a big Foot documentary. Anything that's kind of connected,
you know, everything on TV kind of connects to UFOs
or whatever, so I'm sure I came across some of
this information. But that was the first wood knock that
I heard. And then shortly after that there was a
night that the dogs went crazy again. Went down to
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the same side of that same fence line, and I
run down there and I am I can hear bipedal footsteps,
very like loud, obvious, slow bipedal foot steps. It's crunch, crunch, crunch. Well,
I shine my flashlight over there, and when I do,
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the walking stopped. And I'm sitting there waiting and I'm shining.
I don't see anything, I don't hear anything, and I
turn it off and the walking starts again. Crunch, crunch, crunch,
and it sounds like it's maybe I don't know, twenty
five thirty feet inside of the bushes, but I don't
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see anything moving at all. And I don't know how
long I stood there, But every single time I turned
my flashlight on, it would stop walking. I turn it
off again and it would start walking in. It never
picked up pace, it never ran off, it didn't do anything.
And it did this thing with me turning the light
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on and stopping it for you know, a couple of
minutes at least before it actually went out of earshot,
because I could still hear it making those very slow,
deliberate steps, you know, fifty sixty feet off into the woods,
and it never did pick up this pace. And that
was that was super strange. And all these things are happening.
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And I don't, honestly don't remember when I actually started
like looking into bigfoot, but it was, you know, shortly
after that, you know, watching that stick hit my neighbor,
that it all kind of clicked, and then I start
having these other little things. So I was starting It
was mainly I had a desperation, is what it was.
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I was out of answers, and then I start having
all this weird stuff happened. I'm like, well, you know,
let's check these bigfoot things out. I mean, I don't know,
I don't know what else it could be. So I
started looking into it. And one of the first things
I started learning about the structures. And it just so
happened that I had had two surgeries. I had a
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disk replacement surgery. At first, I had a rotator cut surgery,
and I think I had to wait like sixty days
and then I had a disc replacement in my neck
when I hadn't got it all out of the way
at once. And after I started recovering, I started doing
walks in the woods back at the back of my property,
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you know, going towards the wildlife management area, and I
would walk around back there and I started finding weird stuff,
like I found three it's like broken tree stumps and
if you imagine, or you know, just logs about the
same size as maybe a cantaloop, that's how big around
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they were. And there was three of them and they
were shoved into the ground about ten feet apart. And
I found a couple of other kind of weird things
or what I thought was weird, But then again I
didn't know much about it. I'm just guessing. And as
I recovered more, I started walking around more in the
woods as kind of my physical therapy. Well, all the
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activity and everything that was happening, the lack of answers
just kind of pushed me to the point to where
I had had an So what I decided to do
was start doing armed nightly patrols. I would go outside
with a gun with a flashlight, and I would go
out in the woods and I would stomp around and
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shot off. It didn't matter if anything happened or not.
I would go out there and just be a nuisance.
And anytime I came across anything that looked like a
a limb leaning up against a tree or you know,
I look back on it now and it's like, now,
none of those were structures. But back then I didn't
know what I was looking for. But anything I came
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across it kind of looked like a structure, I would
pull it apart, stomp and break it. Whatever, just made
a pest of myselff. And I did that for maybe
a week a week and a half. And there was
one afternoon where I was building my kid's treehouse on
the side of my property, and I got done working
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for that day and I went to set up on
the front porch. I'm drinking coffee and this is probably
this is over an hour, you know, I shall got
over an hour of sunlight left. I'm sitting there, I'm
drinking my coffee, and on the other side of the
tree house there is a tree and it's downhill. There's
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like the treehouse my fence, and then it goes downhill
and then there's a trail back there where there's a
tree probably about as big around as my leg that
just starts shaking like crazy, just going back and forth,
like something's got a hole in the bottom of it.
It's just you know, shaking the mess out of it.
But I can't see the bottom ten feet of the tree.
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So I jump up and run over there, and I
don't see anything, but I'm obviously I'm like, man, maybe
it's one of these bigfoot things. So I decide, you know,
I'm definitely doing my little patrol tonight. So I get on.
It gets dark, I get all my stuff together, I
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open my front door, and my dogs run directly over
to that side of my fence. So I walk over
there and go out of the gate, and I go
up to there's this trail that it splits my property,
my neighbor's probably goes right down the property line at
the top, you know, it kind of goes uphill. So
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I walked up the top of that hill and then
I start going down the trail and all of a sudden,
rocks start falling all around me. It's like somebody took
a handful of rocks and fill them up in the
air and they all landed kind of in a circle
around me, but none of them hit me, and it
kind of, you know, kind of scared me. But then again,
I'm like, well, somebody's here, so now I'm about to
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get answers, and automatically they just threw rocks at me.
So this is the person. So I back up a
little bit and I'm standing there. I'm listening and I'm waiting.
I don't hear anything, I don't see anything. So I
start going or again the same thing happens. A hand
four rocks just falls all around me. Well, I yell out.
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That second hand full of rocks just say. It irritated
me greatly, so I yelled out, if you hit me
with a rock, I'm going to shoot you. And I
stood there. I didn't hear anything, didn't see anything. So
I went down that trail and there's a pine thicket
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back there on my neighbor's property. And I went back
there in that pine thicket, and I had been finding
there was an area back there in the pine thicket
where the pine straw was really thick but mushed down,
and I was finding like rodent bones and all kinds
of stuff back there. I looked back there, didn't see anything,
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didn't hear anything. After maybe ten minutes, and I'm you know,
I'm out there with a pistol and a flashlight, and
I get done looking around and I make my at
the top of the hill and I'm standing there and
actually I had already bought a TK scout a thermal.
I had bought that for hunting, but I mean, I
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already had it. I'm standing there at the top of
the hill and I've got the thermal up in my eye,
and I'm looking over at my neighbors backyard, across their
backyard into the other woodline, and I think I see
a hotspot. I'm standing there just a couple of minutes
and over to my right from about where I was
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standing when I had the rock stowing at me, about
thirty feet away, this thing growls at me. And as
soon as it growled, that was pretty much it. Like
I knew instantaneously what I was dealing with. That all
the running around at night thinking it was people and
being scared it was maybe people are gonna break into
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our cars or whatever, that it was one of these creatures.
That's how I mean. It's it's thirty feet away and
it's scared. And people asked me, all, I, why did
you get it all thermal? And I tell you why.
I didn't get it on because I was too scared
to move. I had that thermal up to my eye
and it growled. And I've got a recording of this
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same growl, but it's several months later. I've been growled
at three times since that night, three times all together.
The third time it growled at me. I do have
an extremely good recording of that, and of it like
huffing at my dog and growling and doing all this
other stuff, stomping on the ground, one of the best
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recordings I've got. But I'm standing there with that thermal
up to my eyeball, and when it growled, all I
could do was slightly moving my head just enough to
look in that direction. And I was fasically waiting on impact,
like I just thought. I just had so many things
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going through my mind at the time. I didn't know
whether to move. I didn't know whether to get out
of the way of danger, or if I did move,
this thing is going to attack me. I just froze up.
I've never done that. I've done all kinds of dangerous things,
you know, Besides the fire Department of the military. I
did high rise repelling work. I've never had a problem
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with decision making or being in, you know, any type
of dangerous situation. But I don't have a problem being
out of the woods at night, none of that stuff.
But as soon as I heard that grol, I just
completely locked up, and my decision making ability capabilities were
just gone for a couple of seconds. And I stood
there and I just waited for I don't know how long.
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It was a minute or so when I realized nothing
else was going to happen. And all I said was
all right, dude, I get it, and I just backed out.
I backed up, you know, five or six steps. And
that was the night that, you know, other than actually
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seeing them later on, but I came as close as
you could to believing that these creatures were real just
from that growl, and it was when imitated. It's basically
just and you know, that's all it took. There's nothing
like that that lives in Georgia. There's nothing there's no
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other animal that lives in Georgia that can make that same.
So I knew what I was dealing with. After that growl,
I just I pretty much just became obsessed, just absolutely
fascinated that they were real. Number one, and number two
a little scared because yeah, I never even thought about
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the possibility of these things being real. I never. I
mean I grown going out and actually growing up going
out in the woods with my grandfather, probably twenty minutes
from where I live now, and the only thing I
ever worried about was, you know, a snake every once
in a while. You know, that was the worst thing
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that was going to happen in the woods around here.
And I had children and they were little at the time.
So not only was I fascinated, I became highly motivated
to figure out about as much as I could about
these creatures. And I was already kind of thinking, like,
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you know, I want to learn about them, but then again,
are they dangerous? You know? I just I simply didn't
know enough. Well, that night I realized I made a
conscious decision that, look, I can't be aggressive like this anymore.
Number one, I don't know what I'm dealing with. Number two.
If I want to learn about them, I can't be aggressive.
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So the first thing I did the next day is
I went out there with a jar peanut butter, a
brand new jar peanut butter and a little plastic container
of peanut butter inside it that was open, like a
little sample, And I walked out there and took it
to I think it was standing behind this big boulder
that's out there. So I went and took it out
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there and put it near that boulder. And then the
next night or the next day, when I went back
out there, the little plastic container with the sampling it
was gone, and the only thing that was still there
was the top of the peanut butter lid. Now, I
don't know if the guy it or not animal could
there were no BikeE marks or anything on that peanut
butter lid, and it was brand new, But then again,
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you know, could have been am But that was kind
of my peace offering. Well, from then on, the activity
really increased over at my property. But there's two other
things that happened. There was that growl, that first growl,
and then a few months later I was coming home.
I used to work evening shift, and that's how you know,
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that kind of worked to my benefit, me working evening
shift for that many years, as everybody else would be
in bed, well, I would spend my evenings outside in
the front porch, especially after all this started, like waiting
for something to happen. But I came home from work
one night. I got home, maybe ten thirty eleven o'clock.
I park in the driveway. I go to get out
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of my truck, and from about forty feet this whole
forty feet thing that comes into play over and over
again over the years. That's about they like to get
within forty feet. Why I don't know, but they do.
About forty feet away from me in this woodline, it
growls at me again, just like it did that first night.
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And it was it was probably about two years before
I tell anybody this story because what I did next
it's not really superhero ish. I shut the door and
I called my wife and I'm like, hey, something just
growled at me out here. I don't know what it is.
I need you to get my pistol and just don't
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come outside. Just bring my pistol to the front door.
And I got off the phone with her, and I
opened the door. I ran like a schoolgirl through the
gate and up to my house. I went and got
a pistol, and then I came out and started looking
around again. It would be the next event would be
the growl that I ended up recording, and that evening,
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I had already had activity happening like a couple days before,
so I knew they were around. And I don't remember
if I heard something behind the house or not. Whatever
it was, it wasn't very big because I was just guessing.
I get off my front porch, I walked down the
sidewalk and I go to where my driveway is and
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I'm standing there looking at that same woodline where I
heard the wood knock and heard the bipedal you know, footsteps,
And I'm standing there and, like I said, just a
straight up guess, and I say hello. And right after
I say hello, this thing growls at me. And it's
behind my house I'm guessing maybe about fifty feet away,
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and it's the same exact growl I heard the two
other times. He goes and my dog's out there with me,
and she was already looking around, but not in the
real specific area. But after a growl, she starts barking.
And again, I've got this. It's on video. I recorded
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this whole event, and you can hear them just as
plain as day.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
So that was the first time that actually got really
good evidence and kind of where I started getting kind
of obsessed with getting evidence, to be honest with you,
became absolutely fascinated by him. I started reaching out to
other people, talking to other researchers, listening to podcast anything
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you know, I could get my hands on, and eventually
I made just a Facebook page and it was only
for me to find I wanted to find a research
partner or people that were involved in doing this in Georgia,
and then I ended up meeting a guy by the
name of Mike Taylor. He is a professional adventure athlete.
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He climbs mountains and does trail runs and all this
other crazy stuff. Real nice guy, real cool guy. So
him and I started getting together and going out to
the North Georgia and like looking in areas up there.
And as I was doing this, I was kind of
documenting the things that were going on around my house
on that Facebook page also, and some of the things
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that would happen were And to go back a little bit,
I kind of had a theory after I'm kind of
jumping ahead, but my theory is this, I think these
creatures are running out of habitat. I think whenever they
find a specific area that for whatever reason, they want
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to stay in or they're going to pass through frequently
whenever they find out that the humans know that they exist,
or there's a sighting or an interaction or whatever, that
you're going to go through a testing phase where these
creatures are going to try to gauge what your reaction is.
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I think they're trying to find out whether we're going
to be violent or not. And that's what it all seemed.
That's just what it felt like through everything that happened,
because you know, technically, it started out aggressive over at
my neighbors. They have since moved. Do not keep in
contact with them. I have no idea what they did
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or what the fourteen year old boy did. I mean,
he's a fourteen year old boy. That could have been
a number of things he did to make this thing mad.
But I'll never know the answer to that question. But
I do know it started out kind of aggressive over there,
and then I got involved, and then it started paying
attention to me, and then I got these aggressive growls.
But that was only after I started doing those armed
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nightly patrols. And I believe that after I quit being aggressive,
and what I basically started doing was anytime something would happen,
I would act like an appreciative little kid, and I
would thank them and congratulate them and clap and do
it anytime they did anything. I mean, you feel like, honestly,
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and I still do today feel like an idiot standing
there in the dark by yourself, clapping and talking to
the woods. But it's kind of the only way I
wanted to make it very, very apparent that I was
I wasn't going to hurt them, and they got to
the point to where I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Them.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Anytime i'd hear something in the woods or whatever, I'd
grab a flashlight and go out there and try to
chase it down. Well, I quit doing that altogether, so
step by step I started to try to figure out
things I could do to inspire these you know, these interactions,
but without being too aggressive. And after doing that for
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a little while is when I think I started having
interactions with juveniles. And I know this by number one tracks.
I also had a very interesting thermal. I cannot prove
the existence of sasquatch, but the I do think it
was a juvenile. And then one night, pretty much the
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same thing. I came home from work and I get
out of my truck and I'm going to the gate
and there's an owl off to my right and it's
maybe sixty feet back in the woods. It's not terribly
high up. It's kind of I don't know, I couldn't judge,
maybe ten fifteen feet up. It wasn't anything abnormal. It
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did sound a little off, but I just took it
as an owl. But then it happened again. I came
home another night and that owl did the same thing.
Right when I would get to the gate, that owl
would hoot, but this time is a lot closer and
a little bit lower, and I'm like, yeah, this is
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kind of weird. The third time this happened, I got
out of my truck. I'm walking towards the towards the fence,
and I almost get to the gate, and I hear
this owl and it's super close. It's like fifteen feet
inside the woods and there's no light out there, and
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it kind of gives me the chills. It is so
close and it's also kind of off. So I'll walk
inside the gate and I close it and I'm standing
there and I mimicked what they did. Basically, I mimicked
an owlcohol and it was a terrible mimic. Instantly right
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after I did that mimic, there were two responses at
the same time. There was one about five feet up
and there was one that was ground level and again
maybe I don't know, fifteen feet twenty feet inside the woodline.
And the super interesting funny thing about this whole thing
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was they didn't do the call that they did before
they mindicked my terrible mimic, So it completely destroys the
idea that this thing's an now. And there's two of them,
it was like two excited kids. So that was kind
of to me. It felt like, you know, this is
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definitely children. So I honestly think that's that's kind of
how all this came together. As the adults were testing
me out, and then when they found out that I wasn't,
you know, a threat, then that's when I started getting
these interactions with the juveniles. Now I would go on
to have all kinds of interactions, Like there's been a
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couple of times where I'd be on my front porch
and would see objects come through the air and hit
the ground, and well, actually I wouldn't see them in
the air, but i'd hear them hit the ground and
either roll or slide and stop right in front of
my dog. Like it's not an object being thrown at
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my dog. They're not trying to hit them. And the
the accuracy to be able to throw something from the
woods and then have it just bounce however many times
and then slide in right in front of my dog.
That was amazing all of us all. But it's, you know,
watching stuff like that's just mind blow. This is not
supposed to happen. I can't believe it's real. I've actually
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got that. I think it's happened three or four times
now over the years, and I actually almost got one
of them on video. I had been having activity. I
go down to my driveway. I'm sitting in my driveway.
I'm not even really recording very good. I was using
my phone for audio mainly. And I'm sitting there and
I hear a stick. I've got these big, huge rocks
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in my front yard. I hear a stick hit one
of these rocks, and I look over and I pan
over with my phone and you can see my dog
like playing your tail's wagon and then nudges the stick
and then just walks off like she's happy, like she's
in the middle of playing with something. A year from
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the night I was growled at is when I had
my first sight. It was the following October. Again, I
had been having activity. I was just sitting up on
my front porch. And if you remember what I said before,
my neighbor's house is in front of me. And when
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I say in front of me, it's like directly in
front of me. My driveway kind of goes at an
angle right and whenever they would have their lights on,
it's a big white house. You know, you can see
their entire house. But I am sitting there at night,
just sitting on the front porch, mess around on my
phone or whatever. And my dog's out there in the
porch with me, and I'm sitting there and I don't
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even know why I looked up, but I looked up
and I see the silhouette of the sasquatch going straight
across my driveway, right in front of my neighbor's house.
And it is probably, I say, I measure. I think
it's like sixty three yards is where I saw it
from where I'm sitting to where it was walking down
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my driveway. And you know, of course it's at night
and there's lights around me, but there's no lights out there.
But it's like looking at you know, watching the movie
and you see the werewolf in front of the mood.
It's just a perfect silhouette. And it was his right side,
and he was madly. He wasn't as tall as I
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would have thought he would have been to be as
wide as it was. He was maybe about seven feet tall.
But the first thing I noticed was just his jaws,
just it jutted out like extreme, like a caveman, and
it had it almost looked like a lion's mane, but
I know it's not. It was more like nineteen eighties
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rock band hair like it had a lot of hair
from what I could tell from the silhouette, from his
head down to his shoulders. But I'm watching it walk
and I see it. I'm seeing its right side, his
full right side silhouette with his jaw sticking out. And
I stand up, and when I stand up, it turned
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its upper body towards me, but its legs are still
going in the same direction, like going from my left
to my right. But now it's upper body is turned
towards me, looking directly at me. And that's when I
saw how wide this thing looks. And when people say
these creatures are, you know, three to four feet wide,
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that's about how how wide this thing was. Now it's
at night sixty yards. I can't tell you exactly how
white it was, but it was massively wide. The first
couple seconds of just seeing the side profile were obviously
already convincing, but when it turned and looked at me,
that was you know, I knew exactly what I was
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looking at, and I guess to mate. It lasted five
to six seconds, starting from the left side of the house,
walking in front of it until it got to the
right side of the house, and that's pretty much what
kind of sent me down the road to get me
to this point. You know, it's just been one thing
after another, but that's been That was my first nighttime sighting,
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and you know, eventually I would go on to have
daytime class A signings, but that very first sighting. It
was weird because I was almost more convinced by the
growl than I wasn't actually seeing. And it doesn't make
much sense to me except I felt I guess the
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distance and it wasn't in daytime, and there was always
like this part in the back of my head, like
what if I miss Maybe it is just a seven
foot tall, three and a half four foot wide dude
that walked down the middle of my driveway at eleven
o'clock at night going into the woods. I know that's
not rational, but I tell you that to explain just
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how convincing that vocalization was. That as soon as that
thing vocalized and growled at me like that, it was instantaneous.
I knew they were real. But then when I saw
that silhouette at night, I'm like, yes, that's a sasquatch.
But I didn't have the same connection, and I didn't.
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I just wasn't if I'm glad I got growled at
first before I saw that, you know, And eventually things
would work its way up to starting a group and
then going out and actually seeing these things during the daytime.
We had all kinds of things over the years. Vocalizations.
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I've got a bunch of really good vocalizations that I've recorded.
I got a couple of years ago. I've got a
thermal video that again, it will not prove the existence
of sasquatch, but I am pretty convinced that is one
of them. And I actually have. While I'm recording this,
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I'm also recording objects that are being throlled that are
coming like right down the front of the camera. So
that was another thing that made it very convincing. I've
I believe I got a juvenile in a couple of
years also running across the back hill at the back
of my property. But after all these years, it started
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off like that. And there was one thing I always
heard that you don't want to do, and that is
to feed these creatures. And I had heard that time
and time again, and I didn't for years. You know.
I did the peanut butter thing like a handful of
times at the beginning, and then I quit all together
doing that. But then I got to think, and I'm like, man,
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that's like, if this is true, then you're telling me that,
you know, the reason why we haven't proved these things
exists is because we don't know where they're going to be,
when they're going to be there, and what they're going
to be doing. If we could figure those things out,
then we can accomplish possibly long term observation. Right. Well,
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if you're telling me that if I gift these creatures food,
that it could and then I stopped, then I'm going
to get some type of violent reaction. Well that's my
way of proving of getting these things on video, because
I know where they're going to be, when they're going
to be there, what they're going to be doing. So
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I started gifting, and there was a second part to
it too. We bought chickens, and for about a month,
the eggs started disappearing, and I didn't know if the
chickens just weren't laying or if these things were taking
the eggs. I'm like, all right, well, I'll just start
leaving eggs. I just started a gifting area and I
left corn, eggs, apples. I started leaving all types of
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things out there. So after all these years, and I
had been left a few things before, like having pieces
of concrete that I know are supposed to be like
back in the woods end up on the side of
my truck bed, stuff like that. But after doing this,
you know, leaving the corn and the eggs and everything
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out there, I started going back to what I consider there.
He'll also looking for other places to leave stuff, and
I found the spot back across the creek where I
started leaving eggs and stuff back there too, and I
went back there one time and there's a stump that's
right next to the trail where I go back and
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leave eggs, and there was a what looks to be
a Native American skinning rock made out of quarts, just
sitting on top of that stump. And I'm like, man,
this if you were leaving something out there for somebody
to see, it's like the perfect spot and there's just
no way you could miss it. This you know, piece
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of cort sitting on top of this rock. Man, is
this really them? And then I don't remember exactly how
long after that, but I went back there again leaving eggs.
And I got back there and it was during the wintertime,
and I found it was half of a squirrel. It's
like like something just bit it right in half. And
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it was pretty. It was clean too. There were no
you know, nothing nasty guts, entriios or anything. It was
just like almost like you just cut it straight in half.
And I didn't think much about it. I'm like, well,
maybe I interrupted a predator or whatever, or you know,
they just got the bottom half and that was it.
But I didn't touch it. The next day, on my
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way home from work, my wife calls me. She said, hey,
there is a squirrel behind the chicken coop, a dead squirrel.
Like what. So I get home and I go back
to the chicken coop and s eight feet behind the
chicken coop there's a fresh, freshly dead squirrel, looks like
it just fell asleep, laying right behind the chicken coop.
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Now there's no way to know if they left that
or not, but it's kind of like just so on
the nose, you know, I'm leaving eggs back there, and
then it leaves a squirrel, and then I don't touch it,
and then now I've got this fresh squirrel right behind
the chicken coop. You know, it just kind of felt
like it felt like they were gifted me stuff. But
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this is going on for years pretty much, and you
and I discussed doing a part two of this, But
I guess what I can say is about twenty let's
say twenty twenty one, I've been doing this a while,
and I was contacted by a guy by the name
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of Captain Joe Cayley. And Captain Joe was a four
I'm an Army ranger. He actually lost his leg rescuing
civilians in Iraq. Got a medal from Obama. Anyway, he
had a sighting on a military base years ago, and
it was in the middle of this shooting competition that
he was actually running, you know, and he knew I
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was prior military. So he contacted me, told me his story.
We became friends, and eventually one day he just asked me, said, hey, man,
do you want to start a podcast? And I said, no,
I don't want to have anything to do with podcasting.
I'm not trying to do this, you know, for all
bunch of people or whatever, but I would like to
start a research group. And we got to talking and
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I got to thinking about it. I'm like, man If
and the reason why Joe, you know, Joe didn't tell
anybody for years about the things that happened to it.
And he tried contacting people like the VFRO and you know,
a couple other people, and nobody really nobody took him seriously,
and nobody really understood the the you know, having the
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sighting that he had on this military rifle range. You
know how much of a controlled environment it is, and
to have that happen, you know, just how important it
was and how drastic of an event this was to
have happened when he's running this thing, and the thought
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of this dude getting a medal from Obama for saving
the lives of civilians but kind of being ashamed to
talk to people about this kind of rubbed me the
wrong way. And got back together with him and said, hey, man,
let's do a podcast. So that was when the Sasquatch
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Encounter Brigade was born, and we started doing field research
and him and I started doing a podcast together. We
don't him and I don't do that particular podcast together anymore.
He actually runs the Veterans Golf Association. He got super busy,
so I kind of went off of my own. I
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do have a podcast that I do with a guy
named Richard Ferraby, and it is called Sasquatch Unredacted. So
the research group is the Sasquatch in Counterburgate and the
podcast we do together or that I do with Richard
is Sasquatch Unredacted.
Speaker 5 (50:30):
Well that's it for tonight's show. If you've had a
big Foot siding and would like to be a guest,
please go to my bigfoot Siding dot com and let
us know. Thanks for listening, have a great night.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Seeing a bunch of run down no host towns where
the church of the backbonels and the bow and the
pastoring melodies.
Speaker 4 (50:50):
Coove in.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
With the bomb man rose with the roos, run deep
beyond the nose of the busy streets with the songs
of the South of Su. Then I mean I hear
the promp porch picking down home rhythm, bringing that had
a run from Banjong music. Yeah, the sound of a
(51:16):
memory brings me back to the bluegrass playing the Madaddy Jack.
It's become many been through it, getting through the deer
on scrugs and skaggs, booking name bales, through this Tennessee jams.
Speaker 3 (51:34):
There's no the way that I do it.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
When I hear the plump porch picking down home rhythm
bringing nut had over run from ben Jong music.
Speaker 6 (51:46):
Yeah, so do backwards backwards and double time faking in
the sword and the strummer looking tup stuff. There's on
the end of strumming out country both living.
Speaker 5 (52:00):
Man.
Speaker 6 (52:00):
I hear the bum boats picking down rhythm bringing us
on from from Man.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
The city La trows me wild on the two music cars,
rushing back with the bastes on the stereos to Man.
Speaker 6 (52:29):
When I hear the brown boat picking down on them
bringing nuns.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
How don't run.
Speaker 6 (52:34):
From bench of music?
Speaker 3 (52:38):
Yeah, something going backwards backwards and double time picking in
the sword and the strumming looking tucky stars.
Speaker 6 (52:47):
There's something in the strumming. Now, cant your boy living
warm man? I hear a bum boats picking down room
rhythm bringing us.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
On from from mass, something coming backwards backwards, a double
(53:23):
town picking and the soul and the strumming looking took
a start because nothing had those trumming down because you're
wont live in.
Speaker 6 (53:32):
And I hit a bum boats picking down and the
bad chicken boatsman, Mama's been sweet tea kind
Speaker 3 (53:38):
Of sounds that old