The Cobble Mountain Critter - My Bigfoot Sighting Episode 193 - My Bigfoot Sighting

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
You're ready for another episode of My big Foot Sighting.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
All right, then let's do this.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Seen a bunch of run down, no horse towns where
the church at the backbonels and the bow and the
fasting melodies, cove in with the bone man rose with
the roofs, run deep beyond the nose of the busy
streets with the songs of the South of s. Then

(00:34):
and I hear the prompt Poch picking down home rhythm
bringing out I Don't Run from Banjung music.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, summon.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
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Speaker 2 (01:03):
Our Bigfoot Sightings are why we created the Vogal Brothers.
We're the Vogal Brothers and I'm Timm Eric.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Nice talking to you all. Yeah, thanks for having us
on the show. We're going to give you a little
background on our how we became investigators and how we
became interested in the top of the Bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah. Whatever sent us down the rabbit hole, you know, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
So I guess it was back in nineteen seventy six
is when it started, not the investigations part, but as kids,
we went and saw a movie, the Sasquatch Legend of
Bigfoot or Vice versa. And it was winter and it
was nineteen seventy six, and we were, you know, kind

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of working our way, shoveling our drive ways to earn
money to go see this movie at the Ago on
Twin Cinemas and aguon Mass And this all takes place
in Western Mass in West Springfield at this point. And
so we grew up in West Springfield and we went
to this movie and a couple of weeks later about them. Now,

(02:18):
three or four weeks later, it's wintertime and we got
this week snow. It was in December. Yeah, a deep,
deep snow storm.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
And yeah, yeah, we had a we had it was
actually a fluffy snow that we had almost twenty eight inches.
And that morning we had all kinds of people in
our driveway, I mean investigators and newspeople, and they wanted

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to know what the big tracks were. We were like,
what are you talking about? So our father went out
in the back into the apple orchard with him and
we got these tracks that are in the snow, that
are about twenty inches long, you know, and being we
were just teenagers, were like, wow, this is really cool.

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At first we didn't know what it was either. It's
just big tracks. Yeah, they were just just big tracks.
So they were following them. And it actually started in
Robinson State Park over in Agua by Strathmore paper Mill,
coming up the canal ended out that way you came across,
went up and along the canal, up over the railroad

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tracks into our backyard, which was an acre of apple trees,
down into our into the ravine, and followed the stream
back out and went across the river because the river
back then used to actually freeze, and it went across
the river, and it was over in Robinson State Park
and they had all kinds of investigators over there and
checking it out in the sat you thing. They had

(03:50):
some investigator from California, one from New York. Bigfoot investigators
now and they're right in our backyard. Yeah, you know,
I mean we were food kids on the block.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
So yeah, so it was a big to do and
that was kind of our you know, it turned out
to be a nothing burger. A kid ended up turning
himself in and saying it was a hoax that he
had made some plywood shoes, and that was the extent
of it, you know. So, I mean that was that
was kind of our introduction to you know the world
of bigfoot because you know, we grew up here in

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the East Coast, and it was never a big foot
that didn't exist, right, you know, that was a West
coast thing. Yeah, and it was new because Bob Gimlin
took a picture.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
You know, his birthday's coming up.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
There, Patty's birthday, October twentieth, the famous photograph that Bob
Gimlin took of Patty. You know, the Bigfoot is back
in sixty seven, So if we're seeing this movie in
seventy six, you know, it's only ten years just over,
and you know, it barely made its way here.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
As far as what a bigfoot is, you know, we
didn't know, and that's why we want to see it
exactly actually, So you know, that was kind of the
extent of it.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
We kind of time goes by and you know, life
happens and we start an adventure education business called to
Come Mountain Outdoors and we used to do a lot
of everything adventure education, from canoeing and kayaking, rock climbing instruction.
Everything was on an instructional level, a certification level of

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Wilderness first State.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Everything. You know. It was professional development, you know.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
To teach people how to be climbing instructors or kayaking
instructors to that. So it was a pretty intense programs
and workshops that we had and we did it for
almost twenty years and we did a lot of school programs,
team building, ropes, courses and things like that, and so
it was a pretty varied business. And part of what

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we did was wilderness canoe trips up in the ad
aroundecks and through our business, we would different groups up
for a week, could be Scouts, Girl Scouts, colleges, you
name it. Groups that wanted to go off on a
wilderness paddle and portage.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, you know, sometimes it was a weekend or fifty
mile or one hundred mile or two hundred whatever. You know.
It was a long time and we've been in this
area of the Atironics up in the Floodwood area for
ten fifteen years and we've been certified guide yep exactly,

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and we were in and out of these paddle portage
and ponds all over the place out there. So we
we've been in and out of them and we've camped
on a ninety of them, so we knew the area
very well. And h that's kind of where we started from,

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you know, when we you from from that point on,
jump ahead to twenty thirteen thirsteen experience. And it was
on Pink Pond. It was long. We traveled through long
Pond into Ping Pong and the couple of.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Days of portage and paddling to get there anyway. And
it was on long lake or a long pond where
we stayed.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
The first night we were going to get some dinner,
and then we took off and went up this stream.
We were fishing down to the stream. Well he's paddling.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
I went on fishing and I'm catching fish one after
or another every third cast. It was like it turned
into a fishing story instead of going out and getting
dinner thing. And we did that for oh, I bet
you're almost half hour forty minutes, if not a little
bit longer. Until we got to the stream. And then
we started to paddle down the stream. And as we're

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going down the streaming, you know it's starting to for me,
it's starting to close, and you're starting to get all
the twigs and stuff overhanging. So I told Tim to
spin it around and well, you can go in. So
he spun around and he went in, and on the
other side, you know, it was opening up where he
got through it. Then it opened up where he actually
was on one side of a beaver dam and he

(08:17):
was going to fish to the other side. Yeah. Yeah,
well it was the last time I let him fish. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
So I'm fishing at this point, and the beaver pond
is you know, maybe a fifty fifty yards wide, if
that not even fifty yards wide, and the beaver dam
is if I'm sitting in the canoe, it's just overhead level,
so it might be four feet tall. And I caught

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a fish and I started pulling it in. As soon
as I started pulling it in, these two trees started
shaking like crazy. Those big trees started shaking like they
were in a snow globe, just crazy shaking, unbelievable, just instantaneously.
Just as soon as the fish came out of the water,
I started reeling them in, these two trees started going crazy,

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and next thing you know, there's roaring, uh roaring that's
coming out. There's growling, is all kinds of weird noise.
I don't even know how to explain the noises.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I mean, it's a noise that was just it was
so loud, so consect non stop, never and it was
so deep that it bounced off your chest. That's how
I mean, that's how you could feel it. You could
feel the vibrato on your chest. It was crazy. And
it never stopped. It just kept going, so we did.

(09:40):
We were backed away. Yeah, but the trees started either
breaking or still. Yes, the trees were still shaking. And
as we're back in the way, the things are things
are coming out in the water, like he was just saying.
Then we didn't know if they were literally being thrown
at us or if they were coming out of the trees.
But some trees were shaking. There was no problem, I mean,

(10:01):
if that was the case. Because and we sat there
for ten not even maybe ten minutes there trying to
figure out what the heck this was, and then it
got really aggressive sounding, and that's when we started back in.
It just made no sense because we've never we've never
heard or encountered anything like this in the twenty years
that we've been going up there. Yeah, yeah, no, it
was completely what the heck is this?

Speaker 4 (10:23):
And you know, kind of scared us because we didn't
know when you know, how to identify what we're listening to.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
And then, like you said, it's getting real loud.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
It's getting really aggressive vocally wise, and like the vibrations
he's talking about is as loud as it would get,
you could feel it in your you could feel it
in your body. It was get high and loud, it
would feel it, and if it got low, you'd feel that,
just like standing.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
In front of an amplifier. Yeah, yeah, very much like that.
So it got pretty crazy loud and we thought the uh,
it was time to leave. Yeah, yeah, we did. We
backed out of there. We got out of there, and
we actually paddled out to the lake about halfway before
it literally stopped. As fast as it started, it stopped. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Well we're halfway out in the lake and now it's
probably almost ten to fifteen minutes, and this thing has
never ever stopped. It never came up for air. Whatever
was yelling and growling and screaming that ever it was
was pretty mad. So, you know, ten maybe you remember
we were fishing.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
We didn't have a wash, didn't have a cell phone,
didn't have anything. Had a fly rod, some some flies
and that was about it. Tweezers and that was it.
To do some work with that. You know.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
We weren't expecting this, so yeah, it was completely unexpected.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
So we didn't know what it was. So after it
had stopped and we were just sitting there contactly, we're
not talking to each other. We just started paddling back
down the lake and all I said to him was, yeah,
you know what he goes, Yeah, he says, we're on
the same side as this thing just happened. About two
hundred yards away is where our campsite was. And it

(12:07):
wasn't one of these deals like you just pack up
and go because it was it was too dark. You
couldn't go anywhere in the middle of nowhere, you know,
I mean the car. You're here, and the car is
like five miles away, maybe further. Yeah, so yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Just weren't gonna just paddle away. You had a tough
it out. So it was a scary night, Yeah, for sure.
It was a quiet night. Actually, we had a ripping
fire and then we went as far as you know,
midnight one o clock, standing up and nothing happening, just
uneventful after that, and.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
First first dawn though, we were out of there.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yeah, we were thankful. It was uneventful. And like you said,
first light, we were out, we were gone, you know.
And that's what and that's kind of what got us
really started. Yeah, it's twenty thirteen, because I mean, we're
older now, and to have this happened to us, it
was it.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
We didn't know what it was. We didn't know what
it was at that point, right, we had no clue
what it was. And then we started hanging out with
some people asking some questions, and we finally got a
computer and got into Facebook and the rest of that stuff,
and we found out that there were people out there
having or had the same kind of incident or something
similar to it. So you start looking into it a

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little bit further, you know, you start reading up on it,
talking to other people, and now now you're headed towards okay,
this is maybe this is what happened. Yeah, yeah, no,
it's it's it's kind of bizarre the path that we
took with that particular experience.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Uh, you know, Monday morning quarterback and we're looking at
it as you know, we were there fishing and you know,
the thought on the big foot end of things, Now
that we're thinking it was maybe a bigfoot in their fishing,
we believe it was more than one bigfoot because the
noise never stopped, and the noise went on for almost
ten or fifteen minutes and it never ever stopped, So

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that in itself kind of lends itself to being multiple.
You know, something's taken a breath while something was still yelling,
and that's why the different homes.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
If not, this thing was massive, well ten minutes, you
know it just you know, it's not. I don't know,
it never ever ever stopped, I'll tell you that. So
that was, in its own right.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Kind of freaky because we didn't know what that was
that didn't bother to come up for air. So now
we go back and we think, well, Monday more than quarterback,
it's probably multiple bigfoot back there. And we went back
the following year as guides, and we measured the two
trees that were shaking, and they were eight to ten
inches around, So these things are almost nine to ten

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feet apart. Yeah, these things are not going to be
shaking readily from you know, a whole bunch of college
kids trying to wiggle a tree, or shake a tree
or a bear it was, or a couple bears. They
were just too big to have him shake the way
these things were shaken.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
It was just too big. So yeah, going back a
year later and doing some re doing some research and
investigation on it.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
And and the stream, the way the way the beaver
dam was shaped, it's kind of apex in a bow.
We believe that now that if there was multiple bigfoot,
then they probably started upstream and they just walked their
way down the stream fishing, pushing all the fish in
front of them into this new beaver pond, this beaver

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damned area.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
And then you know, they were fine with it all
the way up until I caught that fish. And at
that point one of them said, Nope, I had enough.
These guys got to go. And he's yeah, and he
let us know it, and I know uncertain terms, you know.
We we also came up with the thought that possibly
we always wait. We waited to the end of the

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year to where all the kids and the schools went
back to back to the school colleges went back. So
the woods were empty, they were nice, clean empty. We figured,
if we're up there because of that reason, maybe this
is why they were there doing the fishing part that

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he's talking about. Pushing him into that into that beaver damp.
It's recognizing patterns. So recognizing that's what they were doing,
because that if you know, the adron that's come come
the end of summer, it empties out and you have
it pretty much to yourself, which is pretty good. It's quiet,
and that's why we were there. And I we believe

(16:37):
that's why they were there. Yep. So you know, that's
kind of how we sum it up. Now.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
We believe that they were fishing. We were fishing, and
it just makes good sense. And we had good time
fishing and they were probably having a good time fishing
until we showed up and then you know, kind of
messed up their day and they let us know it,
you know. So, like you said, first light, we were
out of there, and and that was kind of the
entrance to the rabbit hole for us.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Really. Yeah, that got us that That's that got us
going in that direction. Because then we ended up to
go into a couple of the Ohio conferences out there
out at South South Fork, and you know, we got
to listen to a lot of speakers and talk to
a lot of people. That's where we picked up a

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lot of friends, and we picked up a lot of
information and that sent us down that towards that road. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Well with with Salt Fork, it was uh, you know,
meeting Bob Gimblin talking with uh Tom Payne, was it Tom?
It was you know, meeting you know, half the b
f RO crew. We were just new to this stuff,
so it was it was a lot of fun, meeting
a lot of the you know, the TV personalities and
things like that. And then after talking to all these people,

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you're realizing that, you know, these guys got the same
experiences as.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
You guys got or we have, you know, or maybe
even more. Uh.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Having said that, you know, we felt like, well, you
know this is really legit.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
What we experienced was real.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
These guys from the top down, meaning Bob Gimlin down
are telling us these things that we experienced over time.
So you know, we believe now that you know, we
were having a Bigfoot experience and that's kind of that
was the driver, you know, after meeting all these folks
and kind of solidifying what we were doing and what
we experience, so you know, it was easy after that.

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So you know, we're we're going along and uh, we
have a number of expeditions that we've done for different
groups and whatnot. And we've had out of the different
expeditions that we've done, you know, probably seven total that
we've done, you with different groups than ourselves. Uh, you know,

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we've had numerous class A sightings or visual sightings. A
class A would be a visual according to some of
the people. Different groups have different ratings and classifications, I guess,
but you know, we just call it a visual. You
saw it, and that was a visual, So that's what
you did. And you know, we're kind of going into

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this now almost twenty years going in fifty sixteen years
or so and having you know, going off and doing
investigations as the Voger Brothers and then doing all these different.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Bigfoot reports and whatnot. We started doing library talks and
people wanted to hear more about what we were doing.
We started these like in the little town of Beckett
out here in western mass you know, we have a mailbox,
a mailbox drop and it's a big Foot drop off. Yeah,
it's a report box. Yeah, it's the official Bigfoot reporting

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station in Western mass at the moment. You know, you
go to Beckett Mass.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
And you can make out a report one of our
diggers and a card and whatnot, and you allow you know,
coffee to go and and then we'll get the Bigfoot reward.
And believe it or not, you know, that had kind
of inspired us to start a business, and that's what
we did. So over the years we've we kind of

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accumulated all of our stories and experiences and encounters and
made the Cobble Mountain Critter Project took our took our
old our old business and just kind of morphed it
into a youth outdoor complete education thing and moved it
over to a.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
To a newer version and now we we uh the
Cobble mount Critter Project is a youth outdoor education business.
It's something that we kind of co founded off of
or co followed off of our count and outdoors then
the brothers Bigfoot correct, we do the Bigfoot in you know.

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The the bulk of the Cobble Mountain Critter Project is
a youth outdoor education component.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
And what we do is we do talks, podcasts, conferences
or wherever libraries do things like that, and whatever funds
we make goes into the youth outdoor education component and
we're sending kids to camp this year. We're sending a
kid to camp for two weeks and it's going to

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cost us one thousand dollars, so that'll happen. And then
we're working with the town of Russell Russell, mass They
has the Russell Montgomery Police Department and they're going to
be making a patch that has our logo the Cobble
Mountain Critter Project in their police patch and we'll be
selling those fundraisers. It's a good looking pat yeah, but

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it's a fundraiser and we're integrated into the community and
that's the big part about it. It's a business and
it's just bigfoot moving, you know, speaking you know, youth
out their education really and that's what we're doing with it.
So that's kind of how how the vote or the
Vogel Brothers started the Cobble Mountain Creatter Project and why

(22:11):
we did it. That's that's kind and that's local war
the Cobble Mountain Crewter. So that's why we're using the
Cobble Mountain Cruiter. Everybody in that in that area knows
about it. Yeah, and we've done very well locally advertising,
getting tons of reports believed or not, it's it's very encouraging.

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I just picked up two reports today that one guy
called me from Albany and another is a local here.
And just the other day, Eric and I I believe
I had another sighting yesterday, but it was from from
the truck and it was a very quick sighting and
it was in a field. Were just happened to go
and past Balance Rock up on Balance Rock Road near Lanesboro, Mess.

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So if you're out that way, he heads up, stay
forest out there. Yeah, And you know, we were just
talking and I was looking out the window and all
of the sudden, I says, I'm looking at it. And
then I turned my brother and I says, hey. I says,
either somebody just put a cutout a silhouette out there,
or that was a big foot. And what made me
say that was I think I saw the head turn

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and it was odd. That's why I told my brother,
I think I saw a silhouette, but it looked like
a bigfoot. And I saw from the shoulders up completely black.
And this was in where it was there's a parking lot.
The parking lot ends and then there's a cat tails
and frag mighty frag Mighty grows up eight nine feet high,

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and this was all of that, and I could still
see the complete shoulders, neck and head, and it looked
like it turned and looked at the vehicle as we
drove by, and so I'm telling Eric, hey, turn around,
let's go check this out. And we turned it right
around when we weren't seconds from turning it around, literally, and.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
The kid on the bike was kind of freaked out.
Yeah he was, so so we turned around, we go
back book it into the parking lot and there is
zero nothing there. Nothing, you know, there was noth lately gone.
Whatever was there was wrong.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
And it was raining, and for us to venture off
into nine foot Fragmighty looking for a night foot creature
was just kind of disheartening.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
So it just was a little, you know, a little off.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
So anyways, it was a very brief sighting or an encounter.
This place has a number of encounters actually, I end
numbers of reports right there in that area. So it's
very possible that that was a sighting because I know
what I saw. I've got two or three cutouts here
in our camp and that's what I thought I was
looking at. We turned around and went back and it

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wasn't there simple as that. So watching like a.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Duck quacks like a dog gune for sure, there's no
doubt about it. Yeah. But from twenty and thirteen we
start like we were talked about. We started a new business,
the communt Critter Project, and you know it does besides
fundraising and the community, we're out there pushing, pushing the

(25:18):
the opening for people to come out and talk to
us about bigfooting. You know, when we go to a library,
we'll have people sitting there. We know you could tell
who has a story. So when they see you telling
your story, it makes them a little more relaxed. And
this is how we picked up most of our Western

(25:41):
mass stories were off of talking to people that would
never talk about them before. Yeah, we've done better than
a dozen, maybe fifteen libraries, a dozen and so libraries.
And it's always a two hour program.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Our last one was just the other night. We were
up in Pittsfield at the Berkshire Infonyum, big, big, beautiful
library and it was packed forty to fifty people and yeah,
and they were serving snacks.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
It was a great time. A lot of questions and answers,
and that's that's the best part about it.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yeah, and that and that usually after you're done cleaning
up and hauling your gear out of the truck, it's
you know, there's a mob of people meeting you at
the parking lot, helping you a load, like your roadies,
and they're telling you their story because you know, finally
they've got an opportunity to speak and somebody will listen
without being Yeah, they're afraid to get ridiculed, made fun of.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
And so they can see us do it. It's no
big deal for us.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Yeah, So you know, they open up, they give us
their information, and I tell you, it's it's been pretty
wild as far as you know, the bigfoot, the concept.
I mean, it's it's wild enough talking about bigfoot. I mean,
I guess once you're a knower or you've seen it,
it's not a good thing.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
It is a big thing. But it's what I mean,
why you see it? You can unsee it. It's yeah,
you're a knower, so now you know it's there. It's
not like now and now what you want to get
It's yeah, you want to get deeper, You want to
get more information. You want to you want to try
to figure out exactly what you did. Yeah, you want
a longer experience. You want to losers, you want to say, yep,

(27:17):
that's exactly who Hey, you know, talk to this thing maybe, uh,
you know. But that's why we you know, that's why
we do it, and that's why everybody else is out
there doing it. You know. They they've had an experience
or they know someone that has and they want to
find it. They want to they want to get a
good visual of it.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Yeah, there's some folks out there that you know, we've
we've done a number of other we call them lesser experiences.
We've had numerous things like rock drawing, woofs, wood knocks,
and that's just over almost let's say, fifteen years of investigating.
That's just kind of the way it goes. You know,

(27:58):
sometimes you hear nothing, and sometimes it blows you away
at what you're hearing. Some people that were there click
like Kevin Ramiro, right, he used to do the recordings
and stuff like that, and we go back and sit
and listen to hours of vocals that he would record
and you'd be amazing what it's out there, what you

(28:18):
heard or what you didn't here, and he's picked it
up in his vocals, you know. So it's it's fun
as far as the research stuff because you got all
these kind of cool tools to help you do some
of that. It does some of the work for you.
You can leave recorders if the if the batteries don't
die off, right, and we've had that happen, you.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Know, brand new batteries and then have them die on you.
So that's a tough one. Yeah, there's the uh, you know,
the whole concept of the WU you know, Uh is
this thing flesh and blood? Is it paranormal? Is it alien?
Is an interdimensional?

Speaker 4 (28:54):
So there's a whole real good talk on that, uh,
And there's a real serious talk on it because there's
a lot of things. You know, there's a lot of
Eric and I. I think we were flesh and blood
camping and now we're kind of I'm more still flesh
and blood than he is.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
But yeah, you know, I don't know. I'm while it's
flesh and blood, while that's here. But when it gets
scared or it feels cornered, I believe that it can
it can cop it can pop in and out. Yeah,
a fight or flight and all, you know, and it
turns into an orbit all of a sudden, it's not theirs,
and you only end up. Now, you got to remember
you're looking. Let's say this thing is like the one

(29:31):
that I saw, was about nine feet tall, four feet wide.
It had to be. It had to have been eight
hundred to nine hundred pounds. It left one track, one
in a quarter track. That's what That's what was left
on the ground after four days of raining. And there
were twelve people that were there when this was all happening.

(29:55):
Two of us saw it. One saw the bottom half,
the laid part from the waist down, and I saw
from the waist up because there was a tree laying across.
But it never moved. You never saw trees move. You
never heard anything break. Everybody says, well, it could have
been a bear. Well, a bear would have made a

(30:15):
huffing sound or some kind of it would have knocked trees.
Now as it ran away, nothing moved. This was quiet,
like we were standing there looking for it to begin with,
and there was there was nothing there. So we got
twelve people looking at this thing and seeing the same thing.

(30:36):
But we had whistles, we had knocks. We believed that
I believe that what I saw was a bigfoot, and
it was only a forty yard visual thing when I
was looking at it. So forty yards is not that far,
I mean, you know, And I took I took Tim
back the next day, I says, because he was teaching

(30:58):
a fish class for the state here at the camp.
And I said, you got to come back with me.
So I took him back, and I took him back
to the rock that I was standing on and where
I brought out the ruler, I brought out the tape measure,
the range finder. I had everything, or at least I

(31:19):
thought I did. So I took him out to the rock.
I'm telling him the whole story about what was happening,
and I said, can you walk over to that tree?
So he walks over to the tree. He's standing there,
and I said, all right. So I took out the
range finder and I'm looking at it. I said, okay,
you're you're forty yards away. I said, you want to
raise up your hand, So he raised his hand. Wasn't

(31:41):
high enough, so he raised his hat. Wasn't high enough.
So we got a stick and he started going up
with the stick. And when I told him to stop,
I went down to where he was we measured it.
It was almost nine feet tall, anywhere between eight and
a half nine feet. And when I and the reason
why I saw this thing because it teeter tottered with me.

(32:04):
I leaned to the left when I first saw this thing,
and I couldn't figure out what I was looking at.
And when I stood back, and this thing leaned, so
when I stood up, it stood up, and when it
stood up, it kind of turned. And when I when
it turned, that's how I saw how white it was.
And I saw it from just past the shoulders up

(32:25):
over the to the top of the head. But it
was gone. As fast as I saw it, it was gone,
and there was nobody else saw it. Me and the
gentleman that was beside me. There was a guy in
between us with a GoPro. Everybody says, how come you
never get a picture of a bigfoot. Well, when I

(32:47):
saw it, I pointed at it and I started running
towards it. And there was a gentleman to my left
to my right, on different angle, and he came into
the same go pro frame as I I did, at
the exact same time, pointing in the same direction. And
when he was standing there, he was standing in front
of a tree, and behind the tree is where this

(33:09):
bigfoot was. How ironic is that? So when I took
Tim there, we went through the whole thing and we're
looking at it. I come walking around the tree and
Tim stopped and I said, what's up? And he goes,
look at this, and he's the one that found the print.
And so we cast the print. Well, we called our

(33:33):
We called a friend of ours, John. He was on
his way out to a ball game. Anybody who knows
John knows John goes to the ballgame. So we turned
around and I called him up and I said, you
got to come out here. I said, you won't believe
that we've got a print. I said, we're looking at
it right now. And he goes, no way, and I says,
I'm telling you it's here. So he was out on

(33:55):
the highway. He turns around, he comes all the way back.
He had the casting material, so he came back. We
met him out on the dirt road. We got in
this truck and we started driving in. We couldn't have
gotten forty yards in and this loud yell roar, just
like New York, just like New York, came off the

(34:17):
top of the hill. It was like a warning, letting
them know here come then nitwits again. You know. It
was a low roar. It was definitely a warning, but
we still went in. Most people would have left. We
went in and we cast that. And while we're casting that,
I was looking around a little bit more and I said, hey,
what's this? And I could see where this route was across.

(34:41):
There was a root sticking out of the ground just
enough to where the second print it had to be
the toes hitting the bark, peeling it back, but the
ball of the foot was embedded right at the root
and it was a seven foot stride. And that's where
we came up with the other The other print is

(35:03):
is that the same depth as as the heel on
the other ones? It was about three and a half
inches deep, almost four yea and the wall was the
same way, and that was a seven foot stride. Now
you've got something that big to where where can it go?
I mean it had to go somewhere. And the two

(35:24):
gentlemen that were coming down the same path said they
saw nothing and heard nothing, and this thing is heading
in that direction coming We're going right at them. So
where did they go? How's it happen. Why does it happen?
So you got to you gotta be very open minded
because there's too many unexplained things and there's too much

(35:46):
people's people that come out and they put their reputations
on the line and to tell you that, hey, this
is out here, this is what I saw, you know,
and it could destroy some reputations. It almost destroyed by
V Giblan's Giblin's life, so I mean him and his
wife had they went through some wicked ridicules.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
So yeah, there's well, we get people that talk about
it now only because they you know, it's forty to
fifty sixty years later. It happened when there were kids
or something like that, and now they're okay to talk
about it. Yeah, thanks them a long time to open
up some So it's it's it's one of those topics
that still gets a lot of ridicule, but it's because

(36:27):
of the TV shows it's opened up more.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah, it's softened it up a little bit. It's not
you know.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Plus you've got the uh, you know, the pop culture
icon kind of component to it as well with the
slim gym thing, and you know, discuss is everything's got
a Sasquatch to it now, you know. So it's a
very common thing. It's pop icon, pop culture. So it's
more people open up. It's not so bad. Yeah, it's yeah,
it's not a big scary thing. And now that they

(36:55):
see us at a library, you know, they come out
and they talk and they call us on the phone.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
They leave the message is so we're you know, we're
actually getting What we started was to receive messages here
locally Western Mass, eastern New York, northwestern Connecticut, you know,
all that stuff, and.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
We start taking names and where they are, and you know,
do the data and you know, log everything, and we
compile a list of what's going on here, primarily around
Western Mass. So you know, I think we're not interested
in Western Mass, New England, you know, but we want.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
To learn what's going on here. So the more we're
involved with the community, the more people hear about our community, Uh,
they are a little more opened up. You know.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
We we sit there, we're you know, uh, supporting the town,
supporting the police departments and food pantries, all kinds of
things that So it's it's not like, you know, I
guess that's what you need to do if you want
to be. If you want to get reports and things
like that and have people loosen up, is you've got
to become part of the Fabrica town. And you know,
we're the big guys, so it's you know, it's not

(38:02):
a big thing. These guys see.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
You, Hey, what's up guys? You know, blah blah blah,
and they give you this or that, and you know,
hooke fun at it. I mean it's Bigfoot, so poke
some fun at But when they have when they have
something happen or an encounter that they can't explain, we're
the ones that they're calling. When they come over after
by themselves, they say, hey, you know what my father
in law was telling me this, or my uncle was

(38:25):
my brother. Yeah, so it's it's all kinds of fun
stuff like that that we're dealing with now. But you know,
it's like some of the questions we were asked for,
is Bigfoot violent? You know? And yeah, I've been asked
that a few times too, But I can't answer that
because I really I don't know. Well, I mean violent,

(38:49):
will it throw rock? Well, I call that a warning
when they throw the rock, it's a warning if they
wanted to be violent. I believe that its accuracy is impeccable.
I think that could be one way that they do
hunt because their accuracy we would be that good. So
when they throw rocks or they throw logs or sticks,

(39:09):
unless they unless it's coming right at you, I think
it's just the warning and they're telling you to get
out of there. Because we have had many of rocks
thrown at us, straight up rocks, twigs, we have, yes,
we've had we've had little ones and we've had the
big ones, and we but we have we have casts

(39:35):
that are small casts, but juvenile. That's what we believe.
We believe that they're juvenile. That's a whole nother story.
That's that's uh labor day, Labor Day twin two, and
it was, uh, you know, basically we get up here
at the same place Eric had is first and original

(39:56):
for this is an in Savoy, Massachusetts, Balanced Rock Savoy. Now,
if you were to google this, it's in the middle
of nowhere. It's in the middle of the woods, in
the middle of nowhere.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
There's some footpaths to get to where you got to go,
and that's how we get there. So, you know, we
go there and we're just going you know, for the
sake of time. This was back during.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
During yeah, during COVID, it's when everybody was really at
the end of COVID and they were everybody would just
wanted to get out. So we were going to go fishing.
That that's how it all started. We were going to
go fishing, and we went from one of one fishing
hall to another. But there was somebody else in it,
and they all had the same idea. It was to
get out, which is all right because that's what we

(40:41):
were trying to do. So we did that for about
two hours and then we ended up saying, well, let's
go squatching.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
Let's go out to Savoy. Yeah, we get out there
or park. We go to the same place. We cross
this creek and we get out there. It's been raining,
it's still raining, and we get out there, we get
the phones out work you know, filming and recording kind
of anything happens, because you know, we're starting to hear
rocks and twigs and little whistles, and so we broke

(41:11):
out the phones. But having it rain and you know,
the phones they don't record very well. And it's had
it's been raining now for about three four days or
days anyway, Uh.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
The place we're in has been recently logged, meaning probably
ten ten years, twelve years. So there's a lot of
new green growth shrub twenty feet high, you know, ten
fifteen feet high, real thick, real dense, and it's you know,
you're not going to see through it in you know,
with all the green leaves on it, you don't see
through it. So it's a very dense forest area thirty

(41:44):
yards and so we get in there. We have these
whistles and rocks being thrown at us. We decided we're
going to leave and listen, and we go back to
our truck and.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
We're listening, or we're talking about what's going on, and
Eric throws some battery in his recorder and we take
the recorder out this time and we you know, it's
all new batteries, new packaging, all tested, tested and everything
inside the truck.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
By the time we got it up there, the batteries
were dead.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
So we were we were recording for a little while,
and then uh, this is a second time up the mountain.
Rocks got bigger, sticks got bigger, whistles got a little louder,
and the things coming at us, sticks of rocks were uh,
you know, they'd land in the ferns. The ferns are
you know, two feet high, and you would land three
four five feet away.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
And just kind of, you know, make some noise, and
it was close, but they weren't big rocks, you know.
So that's what kind of threw us off.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
We at first we just were like what yeah, And
the whistles were very low toned, like it almost sounded
like kids messing with that.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
You know, Hey, I'm over here and this.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Guy over here. Yeah, he whistled over there and then
back and forth, and they're throwing rocks and twigs.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
And it's like, hey, here's the let's say, let's just
playing the game with us, you know.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
So we we left the second time because it got
pretty weird. The nois or rather rock got pretty close,
and we decided we're going to leave and go down
to the truck, and we do. We ended up leaving,
go and have dinner, and we we go down come back,
and uh, we decided at dinner we're going to come
back and try to get to the top.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
We go, we park, we get there and we just
book it. We get right up to the very top
and as we get up there, Uh, there's a like
a vertal pool mud puddle plus has been raining for
the four days. It's the only it's the only mud
puddle up there, just right at the topic at beautiful Lot,
and it's right near the balance rock. Yeah, it's right there.

(43:43):
It was right near there. So we get up there
and sure enough there's two tracks that we find right
there in the mud, and it's you know, yeah, I mean,
we couldn't believe it. We're having this experience. We get
chased out of the woods a couple of times, and
all of a sudden we're running into these and they
were odd shaped barefoot tracks. They were not bears. They

(44:06):
were either human or bigfoot.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
And I'm bearing on the bigfoot because of the you know,
the context of the story and what was happening to us.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
So where this whole place is, You're not going to
be out there barefoot. It's just not going to happen.
It's out in the middle of nowhere in the woods.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
Yes, a nine ten inch track. It's as big as mine.
It's like it was a nine. It was very deep,
but it was a size shoe that you know, would
fit me a size nine. And so the long story
short it had some weird shape to it. It had
some like the toes were broken. They were very splayed out.

(44:44):
The heel was fairly wide on one uh and it
seemed to have no mid tarsal or they had no
There was no the mid tarsal break was there. There
was no connections on a foot right so, and there
were no claws like you would find in a a track.
I mean this looking at it is either no, it's
one or the other. But that's it. So you know,

(45:07):
it's raining out. We got nothing really to cast because
we were going to go fishing. We had run into
this situation. We didn't plan for it.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah, we believe, you know, second guessing this whole situation
was that when we went back into the third time,
they weren't expecting it, and I we believed that we
spooked them enough and they ran through that puddle and
that's how we got those those two friends. They didn't
know what to do because they're just little, you know,
they're juveniles, and they never expect us to come in.

(45:35):
Otherwise I don't think they would have been there. But
the part about it was the tracks were dry. Yes,
they were right next to the pond or next to
the puddle and they were dry. They were like you
just put your foot in and pulled it out, you know,
the whole and there it was perfectly dry, and otherwise
it would have been filled up with rain because it

(45:56):
was raining. Currently as we were speaking, it was raining
and we're looking at these two tracks that now we
decided we're going to cast or we don't have material,
so have we built a birch bark trap and a
tripod and the TP over it so we cover it up. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
We didn't want something to wreck the track, and it
was getting late, so we left.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
We're going to come back the next morning. It's six
o'clock in the morning when I have to tell you
him out, I was telling him. I so let's get there,
you know, early morning so we can beat the kids
waking up. Yeah. Yeah, we get up there and at
six o'clock in the morning, it's still raining a little bit,
and we get up there and we're going to cast

(46:41):
the tracks, so we'd mix up all the mud, put
the forms out, cast both tracks, and then we take
a walk off from where we were casting. Now we're
letting the tracks dry, and we go over where k
had his bigfoot experience. It's, you know, we're kind of
run meniscing and bull you just kind of hanging out

(47:02):
in the cash. I walked, Yeah, I figured all these years,
you know, I see if I could find that in
my rock again. I walked right to that rock. It's
like I know exactly where to walk when I'm up there.
And there was a lot of limbs down this time.
So we're standing there, We're just kind of talking and
I'm saying, no, this was a day just like when

(47:23):
I saw mine. You know, the the rain, the quiet,
the woods were super quiet, and then all of a sudden,
it couldn't have been seventy eighty yards away from us,
directly out in front of us, there was a knock.
It was a wood knock, it was it was absolutely
wood on wood, and it was just one big bang

(47:45):
Louisville slugger type. It was unbelievable. And all of a sudden,
in different spots out in front of us, something rose
off the ground. Something got up off the ground, multiple
something in multiple different places. No noise, no you know,
no stretching, no nothing, and they just started moving. We

(48:07):
never saw they never made a sound. Did you you
you heard it get up and after that, you didn't
hear nothing, right, And it's.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
Almost instantly, instantaneously after the.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Right after the window, it's almost like it was being guarded.
And when they realized that we are still standing there,
they said they did a wood knock, which was the
alarm to get up and move, and whatever was there
was just crawled away. And we believe that was the
young ones they were, they were still sleeping, because it
was the young ones that we chased out. And now

(48:39):
we have us. We have two tracks, one going in
one direction, one going in the other, and they're both
small prints and one has broken toes and they're different
to different two different tracks, two different sizes. So I
saw an adult one and here here we're having an
encounter with juvenile ones. We believe that's what they are.

(49:03):
There would be no other. I can't imagine anybody, a
human being there after four days of rain, barefooted in
the woods. I mean, we just don't have those kind
of hermits out here, you know. Plus they would have
had to be throwing rocks and whistling at each other, true,
all the way through the woods at us, because that's
why we got walked out, right. So so there there's that,

(49:27):
So they'd had to be really messing.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
With your hardcore for a couple of kids to be
messing with a couple of guys that were off that
we're going to just go fishing.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
So that's that's, you know, that's the story on on
our And then well then what we did after that
knock and we heard them, we heard those things get
up and move. Tim says, well, let's get out of here,
and I was like, well, I want to see what
they are, because you know, I saw one. I wanted
to see if I could see another. But you know,
like he said, he said, you know, that could be
a bunch of bears. It could be this, it could

(49:58):
be that. And I said, okay, let's get out of here. Yeah.
So we turned around and we went back and I
laid out the plastic bag and I just I was
hoping that they were hard enough that they wouldn't break
when I took them and flipped them over. And I
was lucky enough that they flipped over and they didn't
turn around, and they didn't they didn't break, they didn't

(50:21):
do anything. And I stuffed them into the backpack and
we got out of there. We went down the hill. Yeah,
contemplated on what just happened. You know, in two days,
we had some incredible things happened to us, you know,
from whistles, knocks, small little pebble rocks being thrown, the

(50:41):
finding tracks and having a wood knock and all of
a sudden the things moving. Yeah, that was pretty that
was pretty intense weekend. So then we come back, we
cast the tracks. We got to let them wait, you know,
probably a week before.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
We can actually kind of clean them up and make
heads and tails out of what we're looking at. And
when we finally did, first person we contacted was doctor Meldrum.
And doctor Meldrom he you know, he instantly, you know,
we sent them photos. We never give him any backstory
or anything. We just give some and we've sent them
a number of photos, you know, honestly, and and he's

(51:16):
you know, usually saying, hey, that's nice or it's got
potential you know this that or the other thing. But
this time, because of the size of the foot, he
wouldn't he wouldn't jump on the fence of the big foot.
What he did say was because they're human size, human like,
what these tracks had was character. You know, they had

(51:37):
some broken you know, we call them the East West
toes because they were broken simply the second and third
toe to stray and they go in two different directions.
And you know, I'm sure mom and Daddy are going
to let their kids out there were broken toes or
that's probably how they got them broke, you know, something
like that, you know, stubbing your toe, getting it cracked.

(51:58):
And so these things, said, uh had great characteristics. Doctor
Mildren said, well, because.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
They were little, and I believe that there's not there
aren't any others to match it up with midterms. Break
actually has that whole floating section in the middle.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
It was really really cool to have him look at
it and say, I like them guys, but you know
it's two human solf.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Hey, that's fine. That's what his job was. To look
at the story. When you when you see the situation,
when you see the how how the tracks came up,
came about through that story, it's it's it's in the
same vicinity where where I had mine. And then there's
other stories out of there of bigfoot sightings. So it's

(52:44):
a very active area. So anything is a possibility, right, Yeah,
you know, even though we didn't see it, those tracks
are there. I haven't found anybody else that has small
prints or juvenile print or what they'll say is a
juvenile print yessides these. I remember watching a podcast doctor

(53:06):
Meldrim saying that there isn't a library of prints of
juvenile so they don't have a database to look or
pull from. So, you know, how big is a footprint
from a two year old Bigfoot or a six month
old Bigfoot? Is it what I just cast an air cast?
I don't know. You don't know, because we don't have
a record or a library, so it's it's kind of
out there assumption maybe, But so given the context of

(53:28):
the story and what happened to us, you know, that's
what we believe. So we believe we had a juvenile
encounter with multiple and we cast two tracks that you know,
if you've got casts that you've taken, that our juveniles
send us a picture. We'd love to see him to
compare to see where we have whole nine years.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
That'd be great, That would be honest, you know, that
would be very helpful in some of the research that
we do. You know, part of what we're doing with
the Cobble Mountain Critter Project is trying to I think
at the end of the year we're having a we're
still in the final stage you' putting together, but we're
going to do a researcher rendezvous and it's going to
be Bigfoot researchers getting together collaboratively in one area in

(54:12):
our camp right here and where we held the Yeah,
we had the Cobble Mountain Critter Festival June seventh last year,
so we'll have it here at the same site, at
the Cobble Mountain Critter Place. And you know, it's going
to be researchers a big name, no name, any name.
We want researchers that are going to come and tell

(54:32):
us their story. What we're looking for is not just
a story. What your research, your investigations, How do you
do this, how do you do that? What happens if
this happens. We're looking to create patterns. We're to see similarities.
Is your Bigfoot in New York the same as ours?
Or is it in Virginia?

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Is it different? You know, if we're down the floor,
it is it different. So we all kind of have
these theories and ideas and we talk, but this is
going to be a place where we can get together
and and you know, and and try to have a
conversation and try to put something together, so there's a
network of people that are on the same page as

(55:12):
to what bigfoot behaviors are going on.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
You know, if somebody's got something going on down in
Pennsylvania or Maryland or something like that and they're not
sharing that information, and I have the same situation up
here in Western mass then it's new.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
You know, I don't.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
There's no one sharing information, you know, So how do
you know if it's a big foot thing or pattern
or this or that if no one's sharing information.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
So that's the whole premise of this thing we want
to do, you know, a collaboration of people doing research
work and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, it'll it'll be good,
it will be fun, it'll be a new it. It'll
be a new stepping stone for us. We're from the
Rhonda from the festival to the Rendezvout and then next

(55:58):
year we're going back to the festival, so we're gonna
keep it road rotating. So it should be it should
be good, and it should be a lot of fun. Yep. Uh. So,
I guess if you want to get in contact with us,
if you have a Bigfoot experience. Just go to Facebook
get the Vogel Brothers. Or you can go to the
Cobble Mountain Critter Project ye on Facebook as well and

(56:19):
contact us through Messenger. You can go to the Cobble
Mountain Critter Project dot org. Go to our website. See
what we're doing, see where we've been. We have a schedule.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
We have an outdoor educations component where we have a
schedule where you come in and learn leave no trace,
fire building.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Survival skills, outdoor skills, you name it. Anything outdoors. You
can buy t shirts, stickers, all that stuff. Don't forget
the merch boom A little shout out to the wojo.
So with our business, we had another business called to
Co the Mountain Outdoors and we'd send retired that since

(57:01):
the whole COVID mess And we used to do a
lot of outdoor education, school work, ropes, course team building,
things like that with football teams, classes, different groups and whatnot.
And we're in a little town called Lakeville, Connecticut, at
this little private school I won't give them up right,

(57:23):
but little private school in northwest Connecticut.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
And we were the guys, we were the adventure guys
out there in northwest Connecticut. We did a lot of
team building programs, a lot of boarding schools, private schools,
things like that, and we used this one particular mountain
and you know, just it was nice, private and it

(57:47):
was quiet, and they had a ropes course up there
that we would use.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
So we're up there for a weekend.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
And we've been working with these programs now for ten
years or so, and.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Yeah, same spot, same same area, So we've been down
there quite a bit.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
Yeah, so we get down there and we're having a
big uh burgers and whatnot. The kids are walking up
the mountain. They do a Bible study up the top
of the mountain. They go up to the very top
of the mounta where this chimney was or it used
to be a cabinet burned down, and they go up.
They do an hour or two Bible study, and then

(58:25):
they come down and Eric and I are fixing dinner
and the grill, and you know that that's kind of
when all of a sudden, this gint.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Well they yet, well, they came down. The they all
came down and they're sitting around the the it's about
thirty people. They're sitting around on the picnic tables, under
the tar. But we're in there, We're getting ready to
give them dinner, and I'm pouring a coffee and the
pastors to my left, Tims to my right, And as
I'm pouring a cup of coffee, from the top of

(58:55):
the mountain where they just came from, there was a
high pitched sirene sound like you flipped the switch and
it went on and it went for like ten fifteen seconds,
maybe a little bit longer, and it just shut up,
and all of a sudden, the pastors just looking at me,
and his eyes are really huge, and I said, yep,

(59:17):
I says, I said. I looked at him and all
I said was yep, And Tim says, yeah, bigfoot. And
it came over on the arc and he just started
laughing because he was like, he says, I can't believe that.
He goes what it was it? And I said, well,
we don't know, but we have a good idea or
what it was, because there's no you know, everybody says,

(59:38):
you know it was there a Sireene up there was
there a volunteer Sireene air raid thing from back in
the day. There's nothing up there. It's just a mountain
and a burnt down house with a chimney, said nothing
up there.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
So what we heard was a siren h and that
was the first plant and we kind.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Of say that it's a bigfoot whistle. Today we call
that a bigfoot whistle. It was just very loud. Some
of going through the investigations later on talking to some people,
they told us that that was what they would classify
as a big foot whistle too. Yeah, they had the
similar experience on the Long Trails. Have been multiple reports.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
Similar to this, and it's we're classifying as a whistle.
So that night we had a whistle. Then all of
a sudden, the coyotes start going off. They're yipping and
yipping and yip, and there's probably half a dozen of
them there so and it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Sounds like they're on a kill. So the coyotes are
just going nuts vocally, they're just you know, yipping like crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
And then a little while later the owls start going off.
And this is in the springtime, so there's probably a
territorial thing going on, but there's probably at least you know,
three or four, maybe half a dozen owls that are
kind of battling it as well. So you got the
owls and the coyotes all going off at the same time,
and it's a very surreal because all these kids are

(01:01:01):
coming out of the city. They never heard it. I mean,
we barely heard. We've heard things like this, but not
at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
No, so we kind of didn't think nothing of it,
you know, and we went off. Thought it was kind
of wild. Yeah, So we went up to our camp.
There was nighttime. We went over to where we were staying.
Tim and I were camping out. Everybody's going to bed,
They're all going to bed. It was it was late,
so I sleep in a hammock. So I get in
the hammock. I'm laying there and I'm just relaxing, and

(01:01:30):
all of a sudden, you can hear them running down
the hill. You can hear the coyotes coming. You can
literally hear their bodies and their paws hitting the ground.
And all I did was I yelled over to Tim
and I said, oh, man, I hope I'm high enough
off the ground. And I know sooner said that that
you could literally I have an underquilt underneath my handing,

(01:01:52):
and that that coyote come flying underneath that hammock, and
I could just feel the underquilt move and I says,
oh man, And there had to be about ten of
them that came down. But they came through the whole
camp all at one time. And I said Tim, I said,
did you hear them? And he goes, yeah, yeah, no,

(01:02:13):
you could certainly hear them. There was no doubt they
were coming running through camp. And then once they ran
through camp, that was the intent of it. They were gone.
But we never had that before. We never had them
on our side. They're usually over on the farm. And
that's what changed. The whole night was different than than
normal that we've had in prior times of being down there,

(01:02:36):
and we've been down there for years, so you know,
we kind of just kind of blew it off. Thought
it was weird had the bigfoot howl or rather than
the whistle. And then uh so everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
Leaves, we're getting ready to break down camp and there's
this big oak tree that's you know, it's kind of
it had been blown down in a storm and all
the all the leaves were still on it, and so
we're sitting there breaking down the campsite and you could
hear something walking behind the tree and we thought it

(01:03:08):
was a deer.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Actually I didn't even think much of it. It was,
you know, maybe a deer or so. I actually walked
over to the to the edge where it kind of
rolled over where the tree was, and I didn't see nothing.
There was nothing. We heard it, but you know, I
didn't see nothing, So it wasn't I think maybe it
was a squirrel because the deer. It wasn't a deer
because I didn't see no deer, but it was walking

(01:03:30):
towards that that tree that he's talking about. And then
all of a sudden, you know, kind of just heard
this thing come flying through the trees. You just heard
like a rock knocking branches as it came through the trees.
Literally could hear it hitting the branches always, just like that.
Just it was kind of bizarre. So that caught our attention.

(01:03:50):
We didn't know what it was. And the canopy of
the trees probably six to the edge, just headed eighty
feet wide and it came all the way through that.
So something through a candle sized, yeah, cannon and ball size, right,
it's like a ball small bowling ball. Yeah, it was
a small It was a bowling ball size, so it
was that bigger than a softball, and it was Yeah,

(01:04:12):
it landed like ten fifteen feet in front of us.
I was like wow. I says, okay, it's time to go,
and we just started packing up. We said we're leaving.
Gotten a jeep enough and that was the extended Yeah
we could. We got out of there. We tried to
talk about it later, you know, try to figure out
what it was, and we.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
Can't come up with anything. You know, people say, why
didn't you get the rock? We get DNA whenever he
wasn't thought of that. I'm thinking, oh, wasn't even thinking that.
But yeah, we got.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
Friends now that talk about doing DNA, and we have
some connections that that may be doing it, but it's
it's a costantly adventure.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
So we don't have that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
But you know, as far as the uh, you know,
making reports and things like that, if you're around Western
mass New England and you've got to report, yeah, or.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
You having here coming in this direction, keep an eye
on our website. Yeah, go to the website and go
to the Critter contact page and just fill out. It's
a real simple report, and you know, we'll keep contact
and we'll stay in contact and you know, maybe we'll
have you out as a one of the research rendez
vows and you know there certain things like that. So

(01:05:21):
that's what we're trying to do.

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
Local reports, local history and local law and getting the
kids out outdoors, youth outdoor education.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
And that's pretty much it for us. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Well, that's it for tonight's show. If you've had a
big foot siding and would like to be a guest,
please go to my Bigfoot Siding dot com and let
us know. Thanks for listening. Have a great night seeing
a bunch of run down now host towns with the
Church of the Backbone, Loves and the Bow and the
pastoring melodies Coove in the bomb, then Rose Ruse, run

(01:06:00):
deep beyond the nose of the busy streets with the
songs of the South of su Then I mean, I
hear the prompt porch picking down home rhythm, bringing nut
I don't run from banjung music. Yeah, the sound of

(01:06:22):
a memory brings me back to the bluegrass playing the
madaddy Jack. It's become an it been through it, getting
through the day on scrubs and skags, bucking name bears,
through this Tennessee jams.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
There's no the way that I do it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
And I hear the bump porch picking down home rhythm,
bringing nat I don't run from Banjong music. Yeah, summon
dollar backwards backwood and double time freaking and the sword
and the drummer look and took a star. There's the
indoms strumming out, cut your boy living warm, and I

(01:07:06):
hear the bum boats picking down rhythm bringing us that
on front from Manus.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
The city that trust me wild on the two.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Music cars rushing by with the beasts on the stoos
to man When I hear the brown bus picking down
rythm bringing nuts run from Manju music. Yeah, something going
backwards backwards and double tim picking in the sword and

(01:07:51):
the strumming look and took a star. There's a strumming
cut your boy living.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
I hear a bum boat picking down rhythm bringing downs
that'll from the bud sing ga backwards backwards and double

(01:08:29):
time picking and the soul and the drumming looking took
a stop because the end of trumming down, because you
won't leaving. And I hear the bombots picking down bring
the batchick and botsmin Mona's ver sweet tea kind of
sund that old from Bago music

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