The Legend of Crybaby Hollow - My Bigfoot Sighting Episode 188

On January 6th, of 2020, tonight’s guest, Ernie Pack, had his first Bigfoot sighting while he was in a cemetery, on top of Mitchell Hill, in Jefferson County, Kentucky. He was doing a paranormal investigation there, at the time, with his wife, Denise. The area where they’d chosen to do their investigation is known by locals for being haunted. In fact, there’s a legend about the area that stemmed from people hearing what they thought was a baby crying in forests around that area. The night Ernie and Denise had their first Sasquatch sighting, they were trying to locate the grave of a spirit they’d been interacting with in that area. At that time, neither Ernie nor Denise were sure if Sasquatch were even a reality. That was about to change and change in a big way. You see, after what happened to them that night, both Ernie and Denise are almost obsessed with investigating Sasquatch. Fast forward almost 6 years since the night Ernie and Denise had that experience and they’ve had multiple other sightings and encounters. On tonight’s show, Ernie is going to tell you about them. We hope you’ll tune in and listen to him do that.

Ernie and Denise founded a paranormal research team called Packman Paranormal. If you’d like to visit the Packman Paranormal Facebook page, which we hope you will, please visit…

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Tonight’s second guest, Wendell Burroughs, founded Foukelore Bigfoot Investigations. His interest in Sasquatch didn’t really take of until he was 13 or 14 years old. He’d been squirrel hunting when he heard vocalizations he’d never heard before by a creek. Fast forward to 2014. Wendell had traveled to Fouke, Arkansas to look for the Boggy Creek monster. One of the nights Wendell and his team were there, they had just come around a bend on one of the back roads in Boggy Creek, when they saw a big, black, hairy creature that was walking on two legs cross the road and run into the woods. That was Wendell’s first sighting but it wasn’t his last one. He’s had multiple sightings and we hope you’ll tune in to listen to him share them on tonight’s show.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, you there, thanks for tuning in. You're ready for
another episode of My big Foot Sighting.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
All right, then let's do this.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Seen a bunch of run down no horse towns where
the church at the backbonels and the bow and the
fasting melodies coove in with the bone man rose with
the roofs, run deep beyond the nose of the busy
streets with the songs of the South of s. Then

(00:34):
and I hear the prompt porch picking down home rhythm
bringing out I Don't Run from Banjung music.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (00:51):
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Speaker 1 (01:03):
My Bigfoot Sightings began on January sixth of twenty twenty.
My name is Ernie Pak. I'm the co founder of
pac Man Paranormal along with my wife Denise, and Bigfoot
actually is the reason why there is a pac Man Paranormal.
On January sixth of twenty twenty, we were at a

(01:27):
cemetery on top of Mitchell Hill in Jefferson County, Kentucky
doing a paranormal investigation. We were trying to locate a
particular grave of a particular spirit that we had been
communicating with. Neither of us were bigfooters. We were not

(01:48):
necessarily bigfoot believers. We being ghost unners, we're very open
minded people. We thought of that there was definitely a
possibility that Bigfoot was out there, but we'd never had
our own personal encounters.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Well.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
That night, while we were doing an EVP session in
the cemetery, at one point we heard three loud bangs
on trees. We didn't know exactly what we heard, and
I said to Denise, I said, was that a tree knock?

(02:28):
And I kind of laughed and she laughed back, and
you can hear it on our EVP recording when this happened.
She laughed back, she said, I ain't about no bigfoot tonight.
We kind of laughed it off and went about our business.
We finished our investigation and we headed down the hill.
Now this is a very steep hill. It's the tallest

(02:50):
hill in Jefferson County and it is part of Jefferson
Memorial Forest. It's a heavily forested area with steep hills,
and there are hiking trails back. There's the road that
we were on was a very narrow, windy road. There's
actually an urban legend around here called the legend of

(03:14):
cry Baby Holler, which is about that road. And having
just recently formed a friendship with Denise, I've thought and
she was from Hendersonville, Tennessee, she wasn't from this area,
so I thought I'd tell her about that urban legend,

(03:36):
and us being paranormal investigators, we thought we'd stop by
a cry Baby Holler and see if we could hear
the baby crying down in the holler. So we stopped
the car and walked over there. There's a concrete wall
there that is about four foot high four and a

(03:57):
half feet high, so I'm six foot tall. I can
see over the wall and down a little ways, but
without kind of climbing up on the wall, I couldn't
see down below the wall. And this wall is along
that road to prevent cars from going over the bluff there.

(04:19):
It's pretty steep bluff and it's a very dangerous curve.
Denise could barely see over the top of the wall
and like straight across to the next hillside from us.
So as we're standing there listening, we started hearing footsteps

(04:40):
that sounded by a pedal, and they were coming around
the hillside toward us from the opposite side of the holler,
and we got to looking. It was a moonlight night,
wasn't very cold for January night, but it was moonlight

(05:02):
enough that we could see movement in the trees on
the hillside across the holler from us, and at one
point this figure stepped out between trees enough into enough
of a clearing that we could make out. It was
something on two legs, very dark and very big, and

(05:25):
it continued on around the hillside, coming around the hill
toward us, and then it got down below us to
where we couldn't see it looking over the wall. It
was down over the hill enough that we couldn't look
down to where we could see it. It got directly
below us and stopped, and then we heard this very deep, guttural,

(05:54):
loud I want to say growl, but it wasn't really
a growl. It didn't sound threatening or aggressive. It was
I mean, the best way I could describe it is
it sounded like a very large, long and loud belch.
I mean, it was just it went on for about

(06:16):
fifteen or twenty seconds, and I don't know of an
animal that can make that kind of noise with lungs
big enough to make it for that long. But we
heard it, and then it continued walking on down over
the hill from where we were at, so we couldn't
hear it anymore. And I looked at Denise and she

(06:39):
looked at me, and I said, are you ready to go?
And she said, yeah, let's do that. So we left.
We got in the car and started down the hill
and she looked at me, she said, do you think
that was a bigfoot? I said, I don't know what

(07:01):
that was. We don't have bears around here, and what
I saw was walking on two legs. Anyway, I don't know.
I mean, it was too dark to make out many features,
but you know, like I say, it was on two legs.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Dark and.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Very big, and basically all we could see was a silhouette.
So Denise started looking on her phone. She started googling
bigfoot sidings near Jefferson Memorial Forest. When she typed that in,
the first result that popped up was join the Bigfoot

(07:46):
expedition this weekend at Jefferson Memorial Forest. Apparently, there had
been several sightings in that area recent to that day,
and they were having a public Bigfoot x pedition there
at the park the following weekend, and we kind of
looked at each other and laughed, like, well, maybe we

(08:07):
did just see a bigfoot. So got back home and
I had worked with a well known radio host who
is a guest host on Coast to Coast AM previously
on a live stream at Waverly Hills, and I happened

(08:30):
to know that she was very much into the Bigfoot phenomena.
So I contacted her and told her about our experience,
and you know, she was fascinated by the story. She said, well,
you've got to get you on a podcast and we'll
do a live stream. We'll call it ghost Hunters Meet Bigfoot,

(08:53):
and you guys can go ghost hunting. I'll send some
bigfooters out there in the woods with you and we'll
see if if we can replicate what happened to you guys.
I said, okay, well we can do that, and she said, well,
what's your team name. I said, we don't have a

(09:14):
team name. It's just Ernie and Denise. We were just
friends at the time. We didn't have a paranormal team
or anything. And she said, well, you got to have
a name. If I'm going to put you on a
live stream. And I thought about it, and I said, well,
my nickname has always been pac Man. Pac Man chased
ghosts in the game, so let's call it pac Man Paranormal.

(09:38):
She said perfect. So pac Man Paranormal was born because
of bigfoot, not ghosts. And so she set us up
for this live stream and it was back at Jefferson
Memorial Forest and we were The plan was for us

(10:01):
to go investigate a cemetery that's in the middle of
the forest while some bigfoot hunters were doing tree knocks
and howls and calls in another area of the forest
not far from us, and we were going to see
if the two worlds would collide. And we're not technical people,

(10:24):
so she actually sent one guy with us that was
you know, he was to handle the technical side of things.
He made sure our batteries were charged and we were
wired in right so that we could communicate with the
live stream. Everything was set up by him and we
were good to go. So we started walking up this

(10:49):
road called Cemetery Road. We got to a certain point
in the road and all of our camera equipment shut down,
all of our audio equipment shut down. Our paranormal device
is shut down. Nothing was working, and we thought that
was odd. We didn't know what to do. We couldn't

(11:12):
communicate with the host. We couldn't communicate with anybody. It
was just Denise and I up there with equipment that
wasn't working. So we thought, well, we'll just walk on
up to the cemetery and do our thing. Maybe because
it was up on top of a hill, we thought
maybe when we get up there, we'll get a signal
back and be able to at least talk to the host.
So we walked another I don't know, two hundred yards

(11:36):
or so, and all of a sudden, the equipment came
back on. Everything worked again, So we got to the cemetery,
we did our investigation up there. Really had no look
no activity going on up there at the cemetery at all.
So we spent I don't know fifteen twenty minutes up

(11:59):
there with absolutely nothing going on, and decided to head
back toward the main camp to meet up with the
Bigfoot people and see what was going on with them,
because at this point we'd been gone for almost an
hour and they had been doing their thing. We could
hear them knocking on trees. And howling and doing their thing,

(12:20):
often another part of the forest from where we were at.
So we started walking back down the trail and suddenly
our phones, our cameras, everything quit working again. When we
got to about the same area where they had quit
working before, we looked down and we noticed a place

(12:41):
in the trail that we hadn't noticed when we went
up there, where it looked like a something very large
with a very large foot had slipped in the leaves.
The ground was a little bit soft, and you could
see where something had kind of slid in the leaves,
could make out a distinct footprint, but it was a

(13:02):
very large impression where the leaves were pushed back and
the mud had slid. So we were sitting there looking
at that for a moment, thinking, gosh, it'd be nice
to be able to document this, but nothing was working.
So we walked a little bit further back toward the
camp and Denise sensed that something was behind us. She

(13:28):
turned around and looked and she said, look, look, look.
I said what And I turned around to look at her,
and behind her, about one hundred feet up the trail
from us, was this very tall figure kind of peeking
around a tree. At us, and she said, do you

(13:50):
see it? I said, yeah, I see it, and it
was just standing there and you could see it was
like looking back into the woods, off away from the trail,
and then back down the trail toward us, and then
it stepped out into the middle of the trail. And
for a bigfoot, which is I think is what that was,

(14:13):
it was thinner than what I would have thought, but
very tall. I would say seven and a half to
eight feet tall. It was wider than a human, but
not hugely bulky and massive like I would have expected,

(14:36):
and not like what we've seen since. I think this
could have been a juvenile or a young one. I
don't know. But it stood there in the middle of
the trail looking at us for twenty five or thirty seconds,
and then stepped back into the woods. And at that

(14:57):
point my phone I did was able to get a
phone call out and I called the host of the
show when I told her what was going on, and
she was like, well, you got to film this. I said,
the cameras aren't working, and she said, film it with
your phone. And I'm like, okay, well I got to
get off the phone to do this. And it stepped

(15:20):
back out into the middle of the road, and I
got off the phone. I pulled my phone up to
try to do a video, and all you could see
was black on the video. You could not see what
was down the trail from us that we could clearly
see in the moonlight, and so that was doing us

(15:43):
no good. But it stood there again, this time for
probably close to a minute, and we just stood there
looking at it, fascinated, and then we heard from over
to our right down deep in the woods what sounded like,
I don't know, chatter. It was like, I don't know,

(16:04):
I don't know, I can't even replicate. It was like
Burbert something like that, off in the woods. And the
figure we were looking at turned and looked over that way.
Then we heard the same thing from over to our left.
The figure looked that way, and then the figure kind

(16:25):
of spun and ran diagonally away from us, back over
into the woods. And so it was gone, and that
encounter was over. So we eventually made it back to camp.
All of our equipment worked just fine when we got

(16:46):
back to camp, no problems, but it hadn't worked when
we were having that encounter. The only thing that had
worked was my phone and like I say, it was
useless to document anything because all it was picking up
was black.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
So we.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Did the download with the show host, told her what
had happened, and she said, you know, she was fascinated
with all of that, and she said, well, we got to
try this again. We'll do it somewhere else where you
got a better signal maybe, And we were like, sure,
we're cool with that. Didn't do any more big footing

(17:32):
for months until she set us up with another ghost
Hunters meet sasquatch live stream, and this one was to
be held at Casey Cemetery, which is near Elizabethtown, Kentucky.
It's also called the Gates of Hell, and it's a
place another kind of urban legend kind of place where

(17:53):
teenagers hang out on the weekends and ghost hunters go
there frequently. It's a place that it gets a lot
of traffic on the weekends. And this was during the
summer when school was out, So we get there. The
bigfoot hunter that she had sent with us that time

(18:18):
was manned by the name of Greg Yost. He's known
as squatch Man in the bigfoot world. We had never
met him, didn't know anything about him, and he wasn't
there yet when Denise and I first got there, so
we decided that we would walk around and get acquainted

(18:40):
with the surroundings before he got there and before we
started the live stream, And so Denise and I were
walking in the woods back beyond the cemetery. Now, Casey
Cemetery is located at the end of about a three
mile long one lane gravel road that goes back into

(19:02):
the middle of the woods and dead ends at the cemetery.
It's a really really creepy place, very hilly ground. There's
sinkholes out in the woods and steep hills and rough
terrain all around it. But Denise and I were walking

(19:23):
through the woods. It was still daylight. We were walking
through the woods, just kind of getting a feel for
the place and getting oriented, so we knew our way
around in the dark. When the sun went down, and
as we're walking, she was probably fifty yards from me,

(19:44):
and I heard her say what was that? And I
said what She said, you didn't see it? I said, no,
what are you talking about? She said something. And the
best way I can describe it to you is it
looked like predator just ran through the woods here. It

(20:06):
didn't have mass or anything, but it was there was
definitely something that ran through right there in front of me,
and you know, I couldn't wrap my head around that.
I was like, Okay, well cool. You know, I didn't
know how to respond, and so we continued walking along,

(20:32):
and about ten minutes later I saw exactly what she
was talking about. The same thing had ran down over
the hill in front of me. And that is the
best way I can describe it. If you've seen the
movie Predator, when the Predator is running through the woods,
how you just see this mirrory looking image running through.

(20:55):
That's what I saw. But it was in the form
of the classic Bigfoot. I mean exactly how you would
picture it from the Patterson Gemlin footage or any images
of Bigfoot or drawings of Bigfoot you've ever seen. I mean,
this massive creature with long arms, broad shoulders, very tall,

(21:22):
just running like a blur through the woods. But you
could not make out any features at all. Like I say,
it was just a mirrory looking image going along. And
then we hear a car coming along, coming down the
gravel road, so we start walking back toward the parking area,

(21:46):
and that was squatch Man arriving and he gets out.
We introduced ourselves our first time meeting them, like I said,
and he's asking us what we know about bigfoot, and
we told him very little. You know, this is the
second time we've actually been bigfoot hunting, and we told

(22:09):
him about our first encounter and he was excited to
hear about that. And then Denise told him what she
had seen in the woods and he said, well, you
saw one cloaked and we said, what, we didn't know
anything about cloaking or anything like that. He said, yeah,
they will cloak, and that's what they'll look like, is

(22:33):
just like this mirror image, or sometimes it looks like
gas fumes or whatever. And we were like, okay, well,
I guess that's what we saw. So that that's how
that day went. During the live stream that night, when
we were trying to do the bigfoot hunt, carloads of

(22:57):
teenagers were showing up left and right, and it was
almost impossible to do an investigation because you had people
running around, flashlights everywhere in the woods and cars pulling
up and down the road constantly. So we wound up
ending the live stream early and we were supposed to

(23:18):
go back the next night, and we called the host
and told her that we just didn't think it was
doable because that was going to be a Saturday night
it was Memorial Day weekend of twenty twenty. We knew
it would be crowded and we said, we just can't
do it. And she said, well, I've already got people

(23:41):
that have paid. This was a pay per view event.
We got to do something, and so I called squatch Man.
I said, do you think we could? Because he had
told us about his forest in southern Indiana where he
did most of his bigfoot and I said, do you

(24:02):
think we could go up there and maybe do the
live stream from your forest? And he said he thought
he could. So we set it up, let the host
know that's where we were going to be, and we
went to his forest in southern Indiana and he was

(24:24):
about to move. I believe he was moving to Washington State,
and he wasn't sure when he was going to be leaving,
but he was planning to be moving very soon. And
he had formed this relationship with what he calls the
forest people there in that forest, and he was telling

(24:48):
us all about this, and to be honest, Denise and
I were kind of looking at him like he was
crazy because we didn't know about his connection to the
forest people. We thought he sounded crazy, to be honest,
when he was telling us about it, but we listened
and we had never actually seen him do his thing

(25:13):
with the forest people because the previous night at Casey's cemetery,
like I say, we had kids running everywhere, so it
was just kind of it was really disorganized miss to
be honest. So that night it was Denise, myself, her daughter, Cora,

(25:39):
squatch Man, and myself. And one of the things that
squatch Man does is he will bring jelly filled Krispy
Kreme donuts raspberry filled Krispy Kreme donuts and put out
on a gifting stump for the forest people. And so

(26:01):
he went out, he put those out. He also put
some gloves stones, He put them in a particular pattern
on the stump, and he stepped back and he started talking,
raised his hands, started talking to the forest and Denise
and I are kind of giving him the SIDEI He

(26:22):
said something like, my friends, this might be my last
night with you. I'm going to be moving far away.
I don't know if I'll be able to come back
here or not. I would love it if you could
do something epic for us here tonight, make this forest
come to life, make it explode. I beg of you,

(26:47):
my friends do this for me. And he puts his
arms down, and me and Denise again are looking at
each other with kind of a sheepish grin, like what
is wrong with this guy? Our daughter Cora is kind
of looking at us like what have you dragged me into?

(27:08):
And we stood there. After about fifteen seconds, we heard
a tree crack pop and fall to the ground, a
big tree, and it was about one hundred yards from
one hundred and fifty yards maybe off in the forest. Well.

(27:28):
Then a few seconds later we hear another tree off
to our left crack pop, fall to the ground, then
another another. Steven trees all together fell within about a
minute and a half, and they were all a safe

(27:49):
distance from us. We never felt threatened or anything like that.
But that was definitely the forest coming to life. It
was definitely something epic, just what he had asked for.
And the last tree that had fallen fell into another tree.

(28:11):
It didn't fall all the way to the ground. It
was caught in the bow of another tree on the
other side of the road. It was kind of making
an arch over the road, and it's a one way
road through that area we were at, so essentially, if
that tree had fallen to the ground, it would have
blocked our way out and squatch Man would have not

(28:34):
been able to leave that force that he was getting
ready to leave. But it got caught in the bow
of another tree, and we kind of stood there and
looked at it and talked about it, talked about how
epic that was. I mean, it was just, I mean,

(28:57):
we all had cold chills, but somehow, you know, I mean,
it was just it was like you wanted to applaud,
you know, because it was something incredible. It started to
sprinkle a little bit at that time, and so Denise

(29:18):
and Cora got back in the van and Squatchman and
I were standing out by the road looking in all
directions to see if anything else would happen, and we
started hearing what sounded like a tree shaking. We looked

(29:38):
down the road toward where the tree was that was
holding the other tree that had fallen into it, and
about ten feet above where that tree was laying in
the bow, there's this huge black mass in that tree
shaking the tree. And this is a big Indiana red

(30:01):
oak it's not a small tree. I mean it's it
was probably seventy five eighty feet tall, two feet in
diameter at least, and this thing is shaking the tree
and I started beating on the back window of the
van for Denise and Cora to get out. They jumped

(30:22):
out of the van and come around behind the van
there where we were standing, just in time to hear
the other tree break the limb that was holding the
big tree, and the tree crashes to the ground, blocking
the road, blocking our way out. They look up just
in time to see this big black mass jump down

(30:44):
from about twenty feet up in the tree. It just
jumped down. We hear the huge thud, and hear it
run off into the woods, and you know it, I
mean is a breathtaking experience. I mean, you can't. You
can't be there and see that and just take it
in stride. I mean it it takes your breath. It's

(31:08):
I mean, the the emotions that go through you. Everything
from excitement to fear to joy, all of those emotions
just happened kind of at once, and it's really I mean,
like I said, it's just breathtaking. Well, when we caught

(31:31):
our breath, we walked over to the tree that had
been holding the other tree, and at the base of
it we find these two huge footprints where the forest
person had jumped down out of the tree, and then
you could see four other tracks until it got into

(31:51):
heavy leaves on back into the woods where it had
ran off and watch and I said, I can't believe this.
I can't believe this. I can't believe this happened. I said, well,
you asked for it, and he looked at me and grinned.

(32:11):
He said, yeah, I did, it, didn't I. And we
kind of laughed, and we walked back toward the area
where we had started out, and all of the donuts
were gone. The glosstones that had been placed on the
stump were rearranged, and we were looking for the donuts.

(32:36):
There was a flash of lightning because the storm was
coming in. It hadn't arrived yet, it wasn't rainy or anything,
but a storm was coming in. And when the lightning flashed,
Denise squatch Man and myself saw five massive figures standing

(32:56):
almost shouldered to shoulder, about fifty feet from us. And
again these were all encounters at night. You couldn't make
out details. You could just see the size and the
mass of these things. And then the lightning flashed again

(33:21):
and they were gone. And we never heard them come,
we never heard them go, but they were there and
then they were gone. And I can't explain that. I
couldn't explain it then. Now I think I have a
bit more of a grasp of it, But back then
it was just mind blowing to me. As a ghost hunter,

(33:43):
I've seen a lot of things. I've seen apparitions appear
and disappear and things of that nature, but never thought
that Bigfoot had those abilities until then. And I always
thought of it as a flesh and blood creature that

(34:05):
would rip me to shreds if I encountered it in
the woods, and that night changed all of that. I
realized it was far more. It could rip me to
shreds if it wanted to. It's just judging from the
power it took to push those trees over. But we

(34:29):
never felt threatened at any point. Even when we had
the five standing fifty seventy five feet from us, it
didn't feel threatening at all. It was kind of a
spiritual experience, honestly. I mean, it was just mind blowing,

(34:52):
eye opening, and totally changed my perception of what Bigfoot
might be. Later in The Night watch Man, he has
one in particular that he's encountered everywhere from Pennsylvania to Montana,

(35:15):
to Washington State down to Tennessee and just about everywhere
he's traveled that he calls big Red because it has
red glowing eyes that are self illuminating. And that's something
else I never would have expected. But he asked that evening.

(35:38):
He asked, he said, big Red, was that you? If
that was you, can you show me your eyes? Can
you light them up for me? And within a matter
of a few seconds, we see these two glowing eyes
that look like red flashlights shining from off in the woods,

(36:00):
be sixty seventy yards from us, and you could see
them blink the head turn. You could tell that these
were self illuminating eyes. And so that weekend, that Memorial

(36:25):
Day weekend of twenty twenty, when that happened, just totally
changed my perspective on what Bigfoot might be. The first
encounter that we had at Jefferson Memorial Forest, I left
there feeling afraid because I knew then that something was

(36:47):
out there, that Bigfoot was not just a myth, and
at that time I was still convinced that it's this big,
hairy creature that will rip me to shreds. But Memorial
Day weekend of twenty twenty changed all that, and I
realized that they are not just a flesh and blood creature.

(37:09):
They're more of an energy being. A I don't know
if it's inter dimensional or spiritual or what it is exactly,
but I'm convinced that it's more than just a flesh
and blood creature. They can appear that way, just like
a spirit can appear as a full bodied apparition or

(37:32):
a shadow figure or a mist. Bigfoot seems to have
all those same abilities, and a spirit can do physical
things like opening closed doors, move objects. Bigfoot can leave footprints,
move trees, break trees, knock on trees, and it can

(37:55):
also move invisibly and silently. And it kind of opened
my eyes to all of that. And since that night,
since coming to that understanding and kind of forming our
own relationship with the forest people, Denise and I have

(38:19):
had encounters at Oh Golly, probably a dozen different places,
including Squatchman's Forest in southern Indiana, Fort Duffield here in
West Point, Kentucky, where we host events now called Spirits
squatches and stories around the campfire, the bell Witch Cave

(38:44):
in Adams, Tennessee, Indiana State Sanatorium. We were up there
for a ghost hunt, had a big Foot encounter. Garnettsville
Cemetery near Brandenburg, Kentucky, and most of these places that
we've had these encounters, we weren't there looking for Bigfoot.

(39:09):
We were there doing a ghost hunt, and Bigfoot found us,
just like that first encounter that we had. I firmly
believe that there's some definite connection between the spiritual world
and these places like cemeteries, like haunted locations, like civil
war sites or Indian massacre sites, places that hold a

(39:36):
lot of energy, sacred grounds, places like that seemed to
be places where a lot of sightings happen, not just ours,
but when I read through other Bigfoot sightings, a lot
of times they're attached to places like this. And I
don't know the answers. I don't know how this all

(39:59):
ties in, but I'm convinced it does.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Every time I get an answer with the forest people
or with anything paranormal, it just gives me a thousand
more questions. And I would love to get the answers
to all of those questions, but I'm sure they would
just lead to thousands more. So I'm just kind of

(40:40):
continuing my journey. We get out every chance we get,
and we don't knock on trees. We don't. We don't
howl every now and then we'll do what if we're
hosting a public event, people want to hear the howls,

(41:00):
or they want to they want to try to knock
on trees, and if we try to give them what
they want, if that's what they want, but that doesn't work,
occasionally you'll get a howl back. We have gotten tree
knocks back. We don't use white lights. I don't think

(41:22):
they like flashlights. I think they can see infra red,
so trail cams and IR cameras and even fleer cameras
are of little use. We've had very little success with
anything like that. The only thing we've ever had success
with is taking photographs and announcing that we're taking photographs

(41:47):
and saying, if you don't want to be in these,
you're free not to, but we'd love to have your picture.
And as crazy as that sounds, that's what we do.
And occasionally we'll get a photograph that was never clear
and you know people. You see people online saying, yeah,

(42:11):
of course, another blurry photo or another blurry video. Well
maybe these energy beings the forest people don't necessarily want
you to have good four K coverage of them. I
don't know, but we've never gotten anything really clear. The

(42:31):
only thing we've ever gotten really clear pictures of is
the eye shine. And we've seen the eye shine in
every color, from red to blue, to green, to yellow,
to orange, even purple. And six years ago, if you

(42:52):
would have told me that I'd be saying anything like this,
I would have thought you were crazy. But I've experienced it.
I've experienced it several times now. The eyeshine is a
very real thing. And it's not reflected light because, like
I say, we don't use white lights. We go out

(43:13):
there in the dark most of the time. If we
use any light at all, it's a red light, and
a red light will not reflect green. But we see
green eyes in the woods, we see yellow eyes. Like
I say, we've seen it in all colors. It's a
whole different world than what I thought it would be

(43:35):
when I first got kind of dragged into the Bigfoot world.
It's more of a spiritual thing than it is anything
else more of an energy thing, and I kind of
feel like if you go into the woods looking to

(43:56):
profit off of Bigfoot or explore them in any way,
you're gonna have zero luck. And I think that explains
why some of the best researchers out there, are best
known explorers, hunters and researchers out there that have been

(44:16):
on the trail of Bigfoot have little to nothing to
show for it. They're there to exploit them and not
just experience them. I think there are some questions, some
mysteries that are not meant to be solved or answered,
and just experience it and be in awe of it.

(44:39):
And that's kind of the attitude that we've adopted. And
it's worked fine for us to have the experiences we've had.
We've been able to show I would say probably over
two hundred people now we've given them their first Bigfoot
encounter when we've taken them in the woods with us,

(45:00):
and it's all thanks to squatch Man and the things
he's taught us. And you bring the right energy, the
right attitude out there, and I really feel like you
can get introduced to a world you never thought existed.

(45:22):
So that's my story. I hope you enjoyed it. That's
all I got for now.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
My Bigfoot sightings is why I created Falflore Bigfoot Investigations.
And it's all started back when I was a teenager,
actually thirteen fourteen, I was doing a squirrel hunting and
of course the big den trees were right over the
Cattern Creek here, and I went down there and looked around,

(45:57):
finally found where the squirrels was at, and then all
of a sudden, I started hearing what we could call
now chatter talk. At the time, I didn't know what
it was, back and forth across the creek. And then
I started hearing rocks being thrown in the creek, and
I got nervous, you know, here at thirteen fourteen year
old boy, and I run back up to the house, well,

(46:20):
actually my grandpa's house, and my uncle was sitting on
the porch and I was telling him about what I heard,
and he said, boy, I told you not to go
down there. That's where the wooly boogers are. And he
grabbed me all out and told me I could go
back down there. And I hadn't really even thought anything
about that. And for a long time, and I was
at church one day and one of my friends that

(46:42):
was there he was telling me about he was thinking
about going on a Bigfoot investigation, and I'm like, I thought,
I seen the movie and everything, Boggy Creek and everything.
I don't, you know, I'm not sure that exists or not.
I did tell him about the experience I had on
the creek and he said, yeah, that I bet that
was a Bigfoot. And he went to tell me, well,

(47:04):
if you don't believe in Bigfoot, then you don't believe
your Bible. And I'm like, now what he said, Well,
read Genesis chapter twenty five, twenty five and that's where
Esau is boring covered and red hair, and he said,
you just follow it from there and see and then
you come back and tell me I read it. And

(47:26):
I'm like, well, maybe Esau goes and lives in mounts.
Here he marries two wives. It's giants. So somebody covered
in red hair and marries giant women could be lineage
of Bigfoot. But anyway, that went on, and that was
twenty eleven when he told me that. At that time,

(47:49):
I started, I'm a deacon in the church, so I
started taking young boys and kids and girls hunting anybody
that their family couldn't go with him. You know, I
had free time. So we started the Arkansas Boys and
we had up to forty kids that we take around
the state hunting and ever were and we called it

(48:10):
Arkansas Boys that spelled with saw because we cut wood
and sold it to fund the hunting adventures for all
these kids, and we made a YouTube channel for it. Well,
twenty fourteen is the year that we went to Foult.
And the reason we went to Fouc was it was

(48:30):
in January of that year and we was all sitting
around waiting on turkey season. Didn't have a lot with
his coon hunting a little bit at night, and I said, jokingly,
why don't we just go down to Falc and search
for the Boggy Creek Monsters. Which most of these kids
didn't know nothing about it, so I had to show
them the movie. And we ended up lining everything up

(48:51):
and posting on our Facebook page and everything the Arkansas
Boys is going to fout. So we end up going
to fount and there's like well this two v vehicles
of us, and we get down there, go to the
Monster mark and we go in and looking around at stuff.
Pretty cool, and we end up meeting Denny Roberts that
owns the Monster Mark and we got to talking and

(49:15):
we know a mutual friend that lives at Clinton and
we was talking about that and he said, well, I
normally don't do this, but for y'all, here's a mount
and I got that map on my wall where he
marked all the recent sightings and that is actually one
the week before on Jonesville Road. Part of our group

(49:35):
decided to split up and go to the actual Ford
house and part of us went down on the Jonesville Road. Well,
we got down there and where he had marked where
this recent sighting was, and there's a house there in
the woods that had been burned all the way around
this house, and we found what looked like feetprints. There's

(49:58):
probably four teen inches something like that wide or long
and about six inches wide in this where this burnt
ash was around this house, old house place. And you
know it's in January there, so it was cold, but
they wouldn't be nobody. A little just like regular feetprints

(50:22):
with toes and everything, and it was like, wow, that's cool.
But we actually videotaped it on one of our videos
and we ended up messed around there and looked around,
didn't find no others kind of signs. We got back
in the vehicle and it was probably four point thirty
that evening. We was going to head out, you know,

(50:44):
and we got going down the road and come around
the curve and about one hundred yards there's something that
was big and black. Harry looking didn't see a face
because it was kind of going at an angle from us,
but it took two steps across the road and run
right through a four strand barb bar fence and just

(51:04):
kept going out across his field. We pulled up there
and my buddy, he's a got down syndrome, but he
jumped out and he was yelling at it, trying to
get it to turn his head and there anything, and
it just run right on into the woods. So we
was amazed by that, you know, And he ended up

(51:26):
going back meeting of our group back at the Monster
Mark there, and once we got in there, we was
telling him everything about it, and in walked a film
crew and then he thought we was that film crew
because we coded we come to film everything. So on
the way back we got to think, well, was this

(51:47):
a setup?

Speaker 1 (51:47):
You know?

Speaker 2 (51:48):
But I mean it was I'm six five and it's
tall as a head, taller than me whatever cross that
field and we was like, well, did they have somebody
arranged or something and the in a suit or something
and we was like, well, we don't know, but anyway,
can we come back to our office here the headquarters
and talked. And after that, everybody started seeing that online

(52:12):
because we posted a video about it, and everybody started
calling me from around the state. Hey, we've had this encounter.
We've had that encounter, can you come check it out?
So we started going checking out different encounters around the state.
And you know, it's just like four or five of
my Arkansas boys that went with me. And once that started,

(52:35):
there's people we met along the way that's become great
friends and colleagues that we've worked together. And we've went
pretty much all over Arkansas that's up the southeast corner
and done investigations. We've done investigations in ball nam O,
RT watched the tall mountains up in Mountain Home. But

(52:58):
my next sighting was at o ark And this is
probably twoenty seventeen when we've had several group join our group.
We call Arkansas Bigfoot Cartel because there's several bigfoot groups
that help us. They may have one or two three

(53:20):
core members in their group and they can't get everybody
to come and everything, but they'll come to ours and
we all meet at one place where there's a lot
of activity. Well, this occasion, we was at o Arc
actually it's near Turner's Ben. We went down in there
and we had several people, it's like seventeen people that

(53:44):
was with us that evening that we went in there,
and all family members, you know from meach of there's women, men,
all kind We pulled up her, we no more pulled
up her and got out of the vehicle. The whole
this is a huge oak tree was shaken in the
top and it was looking around and me and my

(54:07):
buddy Clint started down the road so we could get
a better view up in the top of this well.
It was dark enough that we all had spotlights and
was shining in there. Once the lights hit that top
of that tree, you could see the back shoulders of it.
It's arm and it's right hill as it jumped out

(54:30):
of this tree. And where this tree is it's probably
fifteen foot down. It's on a little bluff here by
the area we was parking at, so from this tree,
probably twenty feet up in this tree and then fifteen
foot down into this little bluff side there. This thing
jumped hitt and we heard it taking off down the woods.

(54:51):
That was just exciting and scary and all at once.
But there's like seventeen people there that's seen that, I
mean crazy. And then my next sighting was at Mountain
View in the Silmore National Forest up there. We'd went

(55:13):
up there and had a team I was doing a
night investigation and our group, it actually part of them,
had went up the river there because it was dry
and they was just seeing what they could flush out
or whatever. There's no lights on, but they was walking
up there's in radio contact with us and telling us

(55:36):
what they heard and everything. And we as further down
the river in an area where we had found tracks
and stuff, and figured that this would be the way
they come. If they jumped them up, or if there
was too much activity and our guys come running back,
we could meet them back at the river. Well, they

(55:58):
went up there, and one of the guys actually jumped
up on a bank and this was his first bigfoot
and investigation. His name was Wallace, his last name was
and he jumped up on the bank and when he did,
there was one this is his testimony, swiped his hand

(56:21):
at him, and Matthew, one of our team experienced team members,
had to grab him and pull him off of that
bank as that hand swiped by him or it would
have got him. Well, when they did that, they come
running back. Well, so was the bigfoot or another one
that was closer to us come out at us and

(56:44):
was shaking two trees that was there by this kind
of bluff charged us, and we saw that it was
more of a the eight more tight bigfoot because it
was down on all fours as we hit it with
the spot. When we did, it turned went back into
the woods. So that's the two investigations that we've been

(57:08):
on and that we've seen one. And then the third
one was back at o Arp but at at a
different location we saw it. It's caught what we call
the area two X and it was a cold night
and November night, and what started it, it's about ten

(57:32):
thirty at night. We started hearing little kids playing down
in the valley there the holler and this goes into
the national force. So they shouldn't be no houses or nothing,
but you couldn't understand them. You could hear the laughing
and and and laughing again and everything. This went on
for a couple hours like this. We started to go

(57:53):
down to it and decided that probably wouldn't be a
good idea of anything else. If it's young, like a
bear or something, they're very aggressive, so we decided against that.
But we listened to all that going on, and probably
about one o'clock in the morning we heard of one

(58:14):
big whoop and when woo and as had all that
chatter talking and kids just shut up. Well, the next
morning we went down into there and found an area
that had all the tree structures and brakes and had
the major X for an alpha male. As were searching

(58:36):
around there. There was three of us that we ended
up jumping one up or or just our sound, but anyway,
it took off down through the trees and through the holler,
and all we got to see was the back hip
and side of it as it when it got up
and took off through the trees. Now we've had thermal

(58:59):
and where we saw them on the thermal imager that
we got, we've seen at least five at one time
that was around us at camp, and how that occurred
was we went to a place that we called Castle Rock,

(59:20):
and we tried three years to get to this place,
and every time we went something occurred. One time one
of our members fell and we had to help him out.
He messed his knee and everything up. So we only
made it to the first cree there's three creeks to
this Castle Rock. The next time we went, we made

(59:41):
it to the second creek, and then everything all the
weather turned bad and it's raining and lightning and everything,
so we had to turn back and go back. Finally,
this time we had made it to what we call
Castle Rock, and it looks just like a castle. We
we got up there and there's a rock that's got
a cave that's probably fifteen twenty feet deep into this

(01:00:05):
cave and it's about ten foot tall. We inside this
cave there was a place that was sticks broke up,
little pieces of plastic all it looked like a big
bed and we got to look around. There as a
whole lot of little bitty tracks that was probably anywhere

(01:00:25):
from six inches long two inches wide down to about
three inches. So there's a couple of different younger ones
there and around the backside of it, we found an
eighteen inch track, so we figured we just they had
just been there and left. When we was walking up

(01:00:48):
the mountain. We're old and fat, and as you go
up the mountain you make a lot of noise. We
figured they had just left. Well anyway, we spent the
day there checking stuff or out, and then finally had
started heading back to camp and we could hear stuff
walking trailing beside us, you know, limbs breaking and stuff,

(01:01:11):
so we figured we had one that was trailing beside us.
Then as we made it back to camp, we found
out that one of our team members was leaving and
they loaded up and left, so we had to prepare

(01:01:34):
camp for the night. When we did that, we ended
up it was only four of us left there, me,
Dale and my wife and my cousin. And when that
had happened, they it got dark and then we got
one on thermal. As it was on thermal, we watched

(01:01:58):
it come in and out and we was watching it,
and about that time my buddy Dale said, hey, I
got one on my right side here on thermal, and
we was both watching them as rock started flying into
the camp. Well, while that was going on, one of
our friends come driving in that there's only one way

(01:02:21):
in and one way out, and as he drove in,
all this stopped and everything was off of thermal. And
he got there and we was telling him about what
had happened, and all of a sudden Dale said, I
got another one on thermal and then the rocks started
throwing back in, which was none of them was bigger
than the cell phone. Most of them was smaller. We

(01:02:41):
figured that we made them mad because we went to
Castle Rock and run them out, and they were showing
that they could run us out. Well. While that was
going on, we was watching the thermal. I was having
him video because it's don't have a recording form, and
he was recording it and by that time Dale yelled,

(01:03:04):
there's one that come up the bluff. And as it
come up the bluff side there, he said, watch out,
and he had a dog that was in his tent.
It come out and run and bit it in the
back of the leg as it jumped off off that
same bluff side where we had had that encounter a

(01:03:26):
year or two before. We was at our area too,
at o Ark, and this had all occurred. After the
one jumped off the bluff there, we decided to build
up the fire and keep it up all night and
all night long, we got them on the thermal you know,

(01:03:48):
that would get within eighty ninety feet of us, but
it just kind of slowly tapered off during the night,
so that was good. So we just upset them because
we went into right where their housing the area was in,
which we didn't actually know that, but we'd found tracks

(01:04:09):
that we led that way, so that was actually our
bad I guess. From there on now, we're still doing
investigations all over Arkansas and look for anybody that's had
any encounters to contact Falcore Bigfoot Investigations and they can

(01:04:31):
even join our group, the Arkansas Bigfoot Cartel, and we
go all over the state and we got representatives in
all four corners of the state and we all go
by the Arkansas Boys. So that was our whole venture.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
Well that's it for tonight show. If you've had a
big foot sighting and would like to be a guest,
please go to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com and let
us know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Bill Listen, have a great night seen a bunch of
run down no horse towns where the church is the Backbone,
Loves and the Bow and the Fasting melodies.

Speaker 5 (01:05:10):
Cooove in.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
But the bomb man rose with a roosse run deep
beyond the nose of the busy streets where the songs
of the southa su Then I when I hear the
promp porch picking down home rhythm, bringing out I don
run from Banjung music. Yeah, the sound of a memory

(01:05:37):
brings me back to the bluegrass playing the Madadi jack.
It's become many been through it, getting through the day
on skrugs and skaggs, booking name bales to this Tennessee jams.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
There's no the way that I do it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
When I hear the plump poach peking down home rhythm
bringing nat that over run from Benjong music.

Speaker 4 (01:06:07):
Yeah, some of doll.

Speaker 6 (01:06:11):
Backwards backwards and double timoking in the sword and the
strumming looking talk starff. There's nothing in the strumming now
could you both living? And I hit the brom boat
picking down rhythm, bringing us that all from from.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
Men physics the city La tras me wild on the tune.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Music scars rushing back with the bastes on the stereos man,
and I hear the brown boat.

Speaker 6 (01:06:51):
Picking down home rhythm bringing nuts that run from.

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
Ben Jong music.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
Yeah, something coulling back words back, what's.

Speaker 6 (01:07:03):
A double tub getting in the sword and the strumming
looking Turkey star. There's the strumming down cuts your born
living when I hit a bum boards picking down? Bring
the bringing downs paddle from.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
The bedroom.

Speaker 6 (01:07:41):
Something collop back words back won, double tub getting in
the sword and the strumming looking turky star. There's the
strumming down cuts your born living and I hit a
bum boats picking down?

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
Bring the brad chicken Botswan Mona's been swinget TEA kind
of sad

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
Rub the baby as