The Pennsylvania Bigfoot Project - My Bigfoot Sighting Episode 183

Tonight’s guest, Glen Bourassa, is the Assistant Director of the Pennsylvania Bigfoot Project. Glen’s interest in Sasquatch began, in earnest, in the mid-70’s, when he had his first Bigfoot sighting. Since then, he’s had many more experiences with them. We hope you’ll tune into tonight’s show, so you can listen to Glen share some of the experiences he’s had with them over the years.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, you there, thanks for tuning in. You're ready for
another episode of my big foot siding. Right, then, let's
do this.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Seeing a bunch of run down, no horse towns where
the church at the backbone lows and the bow and
the fasting melodies cove in with the bomb man rose
by the roofs run deep beyond the nose of the
busy streets with the songs of the southa su Then

(00:34):
when I hear the prompt pot picking down home rhythm
bringing out I Don't run from Banjung music, Yeah, summon.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
My big foot sighting started in the mid seventies. The
first experience I had I was walking a friend of
mine's girlfriend home. This is brown, two thirty at night,
and this is up in the White Mountains of Arizona.
I had walked about a half a mile or so,
and we kept walking past this one area and said
good night to her. She went in and I started

(01:14):
walking back down the street. As I was coming up
to this one area, these one dogs had started just
raising hell. And they had, you know, almost attacked us before,
come right up to the road, and you know, they're
pretty vicious sounding, and this particular night they were just
raising hell on the other side of this house. So
as I was getting closer, I started crossing the road.

(01:37):
And this is a little two lane road back in Arizona.
It's you know, pretty popular now back then in the seventies. Mean,
wasn't nobody on the road. So I started crossing the road.
About halfway across the road and halfway past the house,
the dogs and the other side of the house just
went silent, not a sound, nothing, and I just kept walking.

(01:59):
I thought that was kind of odd, but I just know, okay,
keep going. I got past the house, probably about twenty
thirty feet past the house, and this creature started roaring.
The vibration was going through my body. It was so loud.
It was like a standing in front of a concert speaker.

(02:20):
And it was probably fifty yards off the road in
these trees, probably about thirty forty feet up in the trees,
and the vibration it was just and it didn't stop
the roaring. It kept going for like twenty seconds maybe,
and just this piste off roar. I mean, it was
one of the loudest things I've ever heard, except for

(02:44):
a concert. And I've been in some pretty loud houses
with some big speakers, but nothing like this where the
vibration went through your body. It was amazing. And I
just something just told me, don't run, just keep walking.
And after it stopped roaring, it stopped. Never heard the

(03:04):
dogs again, and I kept walking. I had to go
down this little hill and then I heard something on
my left and it was probably about twenty feet thirty
feet off the road to my left, and I could
hear it, and I just kept walking, just kept walking,

(03:24):
and then pretty soon I heard something on my right side,
moving pretty quickly, and it was There's more trees and
little cabins on the right, so it had more coverage.
And then it kept I could hear it, but it
was in front of me, like thirty or forty yards
in front of me, and to my right, Soria was
staying ahead of me where I was going, and it's

(03:45):
a little road, nowhere else to go. I got up
tom where the main road crosses it little highway, and
I could hear it across the street, across the highway,
and there's a little two lane highway back then, and
it was behind this little post office and there's gravel
back there and it's lit up, but I could never

(04:06):
see it between there's little gaps between the couple of buildings.
I could hear it moving, but I couldn't see it.
And I could just, you know, just make out the
sounds because there's no other sounds at three o'clock in
the morning out there. And I just kept going walking.
I had my arm restaurant was right on the main road,
and we lived in a big double wide trailer behind

(04:29):
the restaurant, and I lived in the barn was remodeled
into an apartment. So I got into my apartment and
I'm fourteen. I was just turned fifteen, I think then
maybe a few months after, and I had a little
twenty two rifle. I threw about fifteen shells into that,
and I'm like, this isn't going to do anything against

(04:49):
this kind of a creature. And I just tossed on
the bed like nothing, and I just who do I call.
I'm in the Forest Service, the game ward. And I'm
thinking about, well, you know, waking up my dad. He's
a navy man and he has some big guns. But
I'm not going to wake up my dad at three
in the morning, at three point thirty and say, hey, yeah,
I'm not sure what I heard. But so I didn't

(05:11):
do that. I didn't get hardly any sleep that night,
and first thing in the morning, I went back out
there by myself, and I went over those trees where
they were, and I walked out into them, and the
first thing I noticed was one of the trees, probably
about as big around as I could reach my arms around.
Halfway around a tree, that's how big this pine tree was,

(05:33):
and halfway around the bottom of that tree, all the
pine needles have been pushed away about six five or
six inches deep. All the pine needles were pushed away
around half of that tree at the base of it.
So I'm trying to figure out what maybe when it
was coming down, it was reaching for the ground with

(05:53):
its foot and pushing away, or I was looking for something.
I don't know, but that was I saw a couple
of you know, trees that had been pushed over, that
were that were like broken off, not not just pushed over,
you know, not uprooted, pushed over, but snapped off. And

(06:17):
these were substantial type trees, they weren't little ones. So
I'm like, all right, and I said, well, let me
go down this hill down into the next to the
road that I was walking before. So I walked down
in the field and I come across this big mound
of grass, probably you know, thicker than a double mattress

(06:37):
of a bed, you know, And it was probably about
twenty five thirty feet long, and I look in about
eight or ten feet out is a footprint. It's sunk
down about ten inches into this mount of grass, and
it's the right foot of this creature. And you can
see the outline. You can see, you know, the toe shape,

(07:00):
and this isn't dead grass. But it was like huge,
like twenty two or three inches long and just massive.
But that wasn't it. About eight to ten feet past
that were two footprints, both feet, so I think it
was tracking me or trick catching up to me on
my left, and it sunk with that first foot, and

(07:23):
its instinct was when you sink, you know, ten inches down,
you don't expect that is to land on both feet.
And they were perfect left and right foot, huge, a
little bit of a you know, pigeon toe, but not much,
and it was they were huge, and then no other
footprint after that, So I think that's what I heard

(07:46):
when it was moving to my left. So I said,
all right, I mean, I'm looking around the area, and
I look up in the corner of the field and
I see like two trees up in that corner. So
all right, I let's walk up that way. And I
didn't go on the other side of the road because
I knew it was over on that side too, but
today that morning I didn't. I went toward these two trees,

(08:07):
and as I'm getting closer, I'm looking like, wow, that
one tree is like perfectly straight pine tree, about sixty
five seventy feet tall, beautiful pine tree. Next to it
is another pine tree, but it goes up about four
or five feet and bends at a ninety degree angle
and then bends up and then bends again at a

(08:29):
ninety degree angle to the left, and then bends again
going up. It did this like three or four times
on the way up on this tree, and I'm freaking out.
I'm like, whoa, I never seen you know, I've seen
Indian markers on trees, but nothing like this. This is different.
And I look up there and I see this sap

(08:50):
dripping from right toward the top of the tree, and
I mean, it's you know, coming out pretty good. I'm like, whoa,
that's weird, you know. I know, you know pine sap,
but that just didn't look right. And I'm fifteen years old.
So I hop up on the tree and I climb up.
I was standing on the last branch that would support
my weight, and I'm about one hundred and ten pounds

(09:13):
at that time, and it's about a two inch branch
that I'm standing on, and I'm about three feet away
from reaching where the sap was being dug or clawed at.
It was above my reach that far, So this creature
had to be standing there and digging the sap up

(09:35):
at the top. There's no way it could have, you know,
stood any farther up unless it was straddling the tree.
There was just no more branches that would support its weight.
So that was very odd. And I come down a
little bit and I could sit on one of these
these l shaped branches and I could see all over,

(09:57):
but I was kind of hidden by that other tree.
So it was really probably like a vantage point for
either them a hunting party, or just to you know,
see cars and people going by, what's going on in
the area, like the century kind of spot. So you
started talking to some of my friends and different neighbors

(10:21):
and about this and they started talking to me about Bigfoot,
and so then I knew what it was, because in
the beginning, I'm like, what is this a huge ogre
or you know, I'd heard about Bigfoot years ago when
I lived in California, but never crossed my mind, you know,
at that point that night, it was just a massive creature,

(10:42):
That's all I knew. So then I started interviewing a
few different people, Penrod family and different you know, families
that had lived up there for years and different Indians,
and the Indians would tell me stories about the Bigfoot
tracking them or trailing about one hundred and fifty yards

(11:04):
to their side and keeping pace for their horses going
down the mountains or up the mountains. No problems with
them keeping up, you know, but they would be off
to the side, like I don't know, they're shadowing them
or keeping an eye to protect them. That's kind of
the feeling that they were getting there. And I was

(11:25):
getting from the stories that they were telling me that
it wasn't an aggressive overseeing of the Indians or the humans.
It was more of a protective state that they were doing.
So the next next time I was in that particular area,
my friend lived like in the last house on the

(11:46):
right of this little street, and this is right near
that same region. And I said goodbye to him and
his wife and their dog, and I started said I'm
going to go down the lake. So I said goodbye,
walked out that way, and their dog followed me. The
dog was like half shepherd, half wolf. You know. Good

(12:06):
dog was a girl named Wolfe. So she's about twenty
feet in front of me, and we're walking toward the lake,
and all of a sudden, I hear that same style roar,
and it's that same pissed off kind of roar. It's
just raising hell. And it's straight in front of me,
toward the lake, and the dog is in front of me.
Like I said, about twenty feet in front of me.

(12:28):
She stopped and jerked her head back at me, like
you know, she had heard that many times, you know,
or she knew what that was. And I just took
off running toward it as fast as I could. I
was pushing off of rocks, off of tree branches, anything
I could just get speed, anything, I could run as
fast as I could. I'm looking up in trees, I'm

(12:51):
lancing side the side, but I'm just concentrating on running
as fast as I can and not you know, falling
or you know, breaking my Necare's a lot of cinder
rocks and things out there. But I was running. I
got to the clearing of the tree and I'm out
of breath. I'm like, Okay, where do I go? What
do I do? And I don't see it. I check

(13:11):
behind me and I don't see it in the woods.
So I'm like, it had to have gone toward the
water in the water. So I look at I clamps
at an angle, and I take my time, and I
walk toward the water to the right, and I'm following
the beach at the lake and I'm about ten feet
of fifteen feet away from the shore, and I'm walking

(13:32):
along and all of a sudden, I see this mud
like sticking up. And this is like fifty feet away,
so I not really know what it is yet, but
it's sticking up about fifteen sixteen inches above the ground.
It looks like mud, like what is that? You know?
And I get closer and closer and closer, and I
get up to it where I'm going to look almost
into it yet, and it's the front half of its

(13:55):
foot pushed down into the mud. And it sunk down
about eight inches deep, and it was the right foot
because I could see the toes and the shape of everything.
There was no claws on these toes. And the weight
of this creature going that last step into this mud

(14:16):
pushed all that excess mud two inches thick and about
six seven inches wide, straight up the middle of its
foot up into the air with the pressure, and it
was going it was like fifteen feet above the ground
and curling back towards the shore the mud was. And

(14:39):
I got there the water just starting to seep through
the mud into the print. So you know, it was
very clear. There was nothing, no mistaking what it was.
But like I say, it could have it had to
have been only the front mid tarsl forward of the
foot because and I didn't know that then, but I

(15:01):
figured it was just the toes and whatever it was
bent and all that weight pushed it up right up
the middle of its foot, and that's what made it
so flat. It was flat, coming straight up and then
curling towards the shore. You know. So it did that
last step and must have dove into the water from there.

(15:24):
And this is the strangest part about this. After I
got this calm, knowing feeling. I didn't, you know, I
didn't get scared at all about the footprint. It didn't
bother me at all. I already knew. I got this,
this knowing feeling in my heart, you know, calm, and

(15:46):
I took I turned and I took two steps, and
I don't remember the third step. I don't remember that day.
I don't remember the rest of that night. I you know,
remember the next but I didn't bring somebody back out there.
I didn't talk to anybody about it for you know,

(16:07):
a few days. Even after he didn't even it didn't
even coming to my mind for a couple of days.
So I think I might have experienced something, but it
might have been blocked out of my mind. I don't know.
It could have been, you know, I took two steps

(16:28):
and it was standing on the shore. I don't know,
but it was something that was too traumatic for me
to remember, or I don't know. I couldn't have blacked
out as far as passed out, because I wasn't covered
in mud or anything like that. You know, it was
just strange. I was thinking about doing a hypnosis sen

(16:49):
session to maybe go back in a regression, to maybe
find out, But that's for another day. So all right,
let me tell you another happenings that happened. My friend
Johnny and I were traveling along a cinder road and
he wanted to show me a fishing spot where he

(17:11):
and a friend had found a cave and they believed
that bigfoot roared in his face in this cave. Him
and his friend were going fishing, and it was kind
of at a peak of this cliff area that goes
down to the river. It's about i'd say thirty feet
above the plateau and then it goes down to the

(17:34):
river the crevice for the river. So these guys were
climbing down into that area to go fishing, and he
actually slid down this rock into the cave. I've been there,
so I know how that could have happened. Coming scaling
down the wall, there's this flat rock that's kind of
leaning out a little bit, and you if you hit it,

(17:57):
you just slide right down into the cave about five
feet down. And it's a bigger opening to the side
once you're down there, but not from where you would
have slid in just enough. So he said when he
was there, they had a big lighter and they got
in there, and they could see this like kind of

(18:19):
like a bed shaped shelf along the one wall. And
I've seen this. It's kind of like a like a
thick mattress, but it's only about a whiff of a
twin sized bed, but it goes for about eight or
ten twelve feet along the one wall. It's very pronounced,

(18:39):
like a shelf, very odd. And there was a few
carcasses of birds and other things in the cave when
I saw it, And when Johnny was there Befrior, he
said they were a fresher then, of course, but at
this time they weren't. So Johnny and his friend they
had a big lighter, and they're going toward the back

(18:59):
of the cave and it's not very high. It's only
about three and a half four feet, that's say four
and a half feet maybe, so you can stand, but
he had to crouch. So as he was crouching going
towards the back of the cave, something roared in his face.
You know, Johnny's a you know, pretty big guy. But

(19:21):
he said he ran over his friend getting out of
the cave, turned and ran over him. His friend got out,
he was white as a ghost, and they just dropped
and ran and got out of there the car and
put off after they climbed out and then all that.
So when I went back, I could, you know, examine

(19:41):
them cave a little bit. But of course we had
a bit lighter and we didn't have any flashlights. We
weren't prepared. But I could see a little bit when
we went around this like pinnacle kind of shaped rock
towards the back of the cave. I went around it
to the right and there was this gap along the
the back wall. It was probably about almost an inch

(20:04):
gap along the whole bottom of the back wall, and
I could hear this guss a wind like a cavern.
I've been to Carlsbad Cavern and other caverns, and you
hear this whistling from the winds, just a shhh. You know,
it's a huge cavern back there. And with that plateau

(20:24):
above it definitely can or it was, you know. So
I'm like, oh, this is interesting, this might be a
way in, you know, blah blah blah. But of course
with the flat you know, big lighter, you're not going
to try and I'm not going to push this thing
open with a big lighter or try it. But I'd
like to get back there and see or maybe get
some equipment to see how big that cavern is before

(20:47):
we even go in, you know, send some drone in
there or something like that. But that was a pretty
nice little area. Let me see third or course, Okay,
let's finish up in Arizona before I move out of
that state. Let's see. Now, there was a couple of

(21:09):
times where we had camped out in these woods and
we would just drive our Nova right kind of through
the woods a little bit, you know, and camp out
just the middle of nowhere. You know, we barbecuing, and
we'd hear these this low growl, but it wasn't an

(21:30):
aggressive growl. It was kind of a moan. I would
call it a moan almost, but it wasn't pronounced, but
you could you knew they were around. But it was
like they never never bothered us. My friend used to joke,
you know, I was like, oh, Glenn, they have your scent,
don't worry about it. They can. They probably pass your
scent around each other or not joking. But they knew

(21:54):
they knew us, and we had no problem. You know,
we never felt fear around, you know, where their areas
are or were. You know, we didn't have any fear.
We didn't have any reason to and no one else
did either. I mean, I think there there's enough sightings
that they didn't bother any pity. They weren't interested in humans.

(22:15):
They wanted to stay away and just live their lives
in peace and tranquility, don't have to worry about self
owner technology. And this is in the seventies. I didn't
have that, but it was. It was pretty interesting. So
when I moved from Arizona, I took, you know a
few years out of the whole Bigfoot world, and that

(22:37):
I had a lot going on in my life and
jobs and raising my kids. And that ended up moving
to Connecticut, met my girl from Connecticut, and moved to Pennsylvania. Eventually,
after my boys were you know, fourteen fifteen, you know,
they're getting a little older, I started getting back into Bigfoot. Well,

(22:57):
my brother and I were going camping and we were
we were going from two different areas and we're going
to meet in the middle. So this is in let's
see twenty eighteen when this happened. So twenty eighteen in
the Hickory Run area of Pennsylvania, we had I was

(23:17):
on my way to meet him. I was going to
get there probably about a half an hour forty five
minutes before he was. So I'm just cruising along and
my RAB four and I see at a little two
track off the road and I'm like, oh, I back up,
and I turned down it just you know, check it out.
And it was near the highway and near the freeway.
They going under an underpass and it was just like

(23:39):
a little muddy cul de sac. It wasn't really anything
there on the trail. So it was kind of like
a turnaround maybe years ago that they didn't use anymore,
because it was like half covered in water on one side.
It wasn't deep, but just enough mud. You know. See
a little bit of a two track off to my right,
So so I kind of drove that way, and the

(24:02):
track had ended, but I kind of kept going to
where it was, you know, a little bit farther, a
little bit farther, you know, shading, and I'm like, okay,
And I passed a couple of little trees. I passed
this other tree and there's a tree laying down and
it had been cut up on the right hand side.
All the small stuff, but the bigger part was still
there still attracched to this huge like it was originally

(24:27):
a four prong tree, like not a titan, but a
four huge stem tree. And this one big part of
this stem broke off, so it was still like attached
three or four three feet off the ground and then
sloping down probably about thirty feet. And as I drove

(24:48):
just got past that there, I saw it was like
all these sticks weaved kind of bizarrely on the one
side of this tree that had fallen, and a few
on the other side, but not many. And I said, wow,
that's that definitely looks you know, squawk or bigfooty. I'm like,

(25:09):
so I got out and I walk over, and as
I'm walking over, I see this like hair covered area,
like enough area of like two big king size mattresses,
you know, end to end, like a twenty foot long
area of hair just like shedding this small short hair

(25:36):
all over. And then I see this huge PLoP and
it was there was two big plops. The smaller PLoP
was as big as my hand stretched out because there's big,
big leaves there and you could see the leaves they
were as big as my hand. And then the bigger
PLoP was probably i'd say about two inches thick and

(25:59):
about eight inches around. This was the gelatinous. I mean,
I have pictures of it, but it was just very
odd looking, a lot of different things in it, you know,
And so I took pictures of that, and I took
pictures of this sticks all over these, you know, this

(26:19):
one area. And I got back in the suv and
I drove to the campsite and my brother and we
set up camp, and I drove in back there because
I wanted to check it out more. And we're looking
around and he didn't want to go deep into these laurels.
These mountain laurels here in Pennsylvania are so thick that
you can't see ten feet into them. The leaves are

(26:40):
green all year long. In the wintertime. I've been up
there and it's like an ice crystal house. You can
have half an inch of ice on these leaves and
they're just bright green. You know, you hit the leaves
and they're fine. The ice just falls off. They're so
sturdy they don't even break. I mean, they're just amazing.
And then they fly hour in the summer and you know,

(27:01):
spring and all the times a year. But they're so
thick you can't see through them, so I know they're
in this area. So I brought my friends back there
a couple of different times. Ag and i'd been hiking
around that area for about a year and a half maybe,
and this particular afternoon, I decided to take a couple
other people with me. So Ag is one of my

(27:22):
head lead, you know, counterparts. He has his own, you know,
region in the Pennsylvania Big Boot project here with us,
and so we took us and Stephanie and her boyfriend
AJ and myself. We all drove to that location. This
is around I don't know, two o'clock in the afternoon probably.
We got there and we decided to hike down through

(27:44):
these laurels. And you have to really know your your
sense of direction because you can get lost in these
very easily. So I would take, you know, mental pictures
of these trees above us going out, so when you're
coming back you can kind of guide yourself by the
taller trees if you need to. And we hiked down there, gosh,

(28:05):
at least two hours, looking for signs, looking for breaks,
looking for any kind of evidence, and we found little bits,
you know, there was a couple of blinds that you know,
it looked like they might be able to, you know,
run deer into an area and you know, and they
deer couldn't get out. It was kind of one of
those type of things, like we went into it and

(28:27):
we had to kind of scale a fallen tree to
get our way out or go back the way we came.
But we wanted to keep going, so we did, and
so coming back when we got out. But it's like
that's something that just doesn't it didn't seem natural to
have that many trees kind of an arranged in a

(28:48):
way on the trail, Like you're running down this trail
through these maze laurels and all of a sudden, it's
like a barricade, you you know, it's like a stop.
So I decided I told the people, I said, why
don't we let this area cool down a little bit.
Let's let this area calm down and we'll hike out

(29:09):
and drive to another area for an hour or so
let it cool down. Everybody agreed, So we hiked back out,
hopped in the suv, and drove to another area that's
more public hiking area. So we went down toward the
hiking area, toward the waterfall, and instead of going toward
where most of the people go. We turned left and
went upriver. And as we did that upcreek. It's not

(29:34):
a big river, but as we did that, we got
to a place. We're going over these like humpting dumps,
I call them up and down five or six feet
or so, and we got a place where we could
cross onto the creek into a little island. So we
crossed this creek onto the island and there's about I

(29:56):
don't know, four three or four foot gap in the
water both sides of this little island. As we're walking along,
we come across a footprint and this is a kid's
size footprint. It's I would say probably around a size
seven boys foot foot but it sunk down almost an inch.

(30:18):
We're looking at him, we take footprints or we take
photographs of it, and we're all looking at it. And
AJ's about two hundred and thirty five and forty pounds.
He stepped next to that print, and he only sunk
in about an eighth of an inch. So with that
much weight, we estimated probably possibly around four hundred pounds

(30:40):
that the print maybe was carrying something or actual weight,
I don't know, but for that small of a print
to be that heavy, that's abnormal even if it jumped
down there, but there was really nowhere to jump down
to it, so we kept hiking. I'm usually in the
lead or in the back when we're you know, having

(31:01):
newbies with us, so I was in the trail in
the back after we found the print. I was in
the front in the beginning. So now I'm in the rear.
Aj is leading, and we're continuing on the path that
we're going on the middle of this island. All of
a sudden, I don't know, maybe a minute later, we

(31:21):
came across that same footprint going the same direction, which
doesn't make sense, like there was something that put us
back in that same spot. So that was kind of odd.
So I said, all right, well, well guys, all right,
let's stop right here. Follow me. I'm gutting us back out.
So I went back out. We crossed back over where

(31:44):
we originally came in and back all the way up
to the vehicle, and then we drove back over to
where the other area was. At that point, it was
starting to get dark, so I decided to back in
because it's a little bit muddy over there, as I mentioned,
So I backed into this area, and it was pretty
close to where that fallen tree was where the episode

(32:06):
had happened. So when we were talking and then mountain
laurels are so huge. They're like fifteen twenty feet in
the air, and they're so thick. At one point I
had walked out toward one of the areas and well,
right before that, I told Stephanie to say a few things,
and she goes, I know what to say it. I'm like, well,

(32:28):
just if they can hear you, just kind of put
their mind at ease. Tell them you're not here to
hurt them. You're just here to witness or talk to
them or communicate in any way. We're not here to
bother them, you know, just say if you think So
she started doing that, and I walked out towards where
the one trail where the water kind of leads down
the hill. Not the trail where we hiked down earlier.

(32:49):
This is the other trail that you can go down,
which kind of the water path where it goes down.
So I didn't have a flashlight and they're shining the
light on me. So my reflection, my shadow shining onto
the laurels like a you know, like a fifteen foot
human shadow in front of me that kind of looked
kind of neat. So I'm kind of, you know, rocking
back and forth a little bit and talking just like

(33:11):
I would do. I just talking to Bigfoot. I'm going
to be out there. I believe they can hear or
sense what you're saying, so I communicate.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
No.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
I said a few things, and then I came back
over to where the other three of them were. Ag
had gotten into the front of the suv. Now he's
in the front passenger side of the vehicle, and I'm
talking with Stephanie and her boyfriend, and we're you know,
talking about different things and about you know, I can't
even remember what we're talking about. But I decided to

(33:43):
replicate one of the yell that I had heard in Arizona.
I didn't tell Stephanie and her boyfriend. I didn't tell AJ,
but I turned around toward the vehicle and the window
driver's window was open, so I didn't want to yell
in the window or near that where you know, hurt
his ear drums inside the vehicle. So I walked toward
the back of the suv, right toward the back, and

(34:04):
I was facing that direction. I didn't think it mattered.
So I just pulled my hands up to my mouth
and kind of did this as loud as I could
for about a half a second, just one quick burst,
and wow, I mean vic half a second later, this creature,

(34:25):
whatever it is, started stomping up at us, and it
was like tree trunks. The you could feel every step
gaining speed, just bam, coming up, breaking branches, just snapping
off branches. I mean, I'm rushing toward the front and

(34:47):
this guy jumps in the back seat and slams it
or on the driver's side. Stephanie starts running around the
front of the vehicle because she's not going to go
toward the back of it. That's where this thing is
coming up at us. And ag felt every step inside
the vehicle too. He could he could hear it. He
could just oh my god, you know. And I jump in,

(35:08):
I start the truck. She gets in and we go
and they're just yelling at me, co go go. That
thing could just knock this truck over, Go go, you know.
And I'm flying out through the mud and I'm getting out,
you know, and we get about a mile and a half
mile away. I want to go back, and they're like no,
we're not going back to night. No way, I'm not
going back ever, you know. And an hour and a

(35:29):
half later earlier, the boyfriend was like, oh, I'll fight big, well,
don't care he rips my arm off, blah blah blah,
beer muscles. You know, he didn't. We weren't drinking, but
that's where he was acting. But so next morning, eighteen
and I go back. Nobody wanted to go back that night,
not even me really, So we go back to the
next morning. I mean, walk over there, and we can

(35:52):
see these like two inch round branches just tossed fourteen
fifteen foot up into the laurels. Could see this path,
but it was like it didn't make a lot of sense.
You couldn't see where it was stepping. But my god,
the sound I have never heard any animal make this
kind of a charging stomping it was. I mean, it's

(36:20):
like if he had an elephant that stood up and
actually stomped instead of you know, they're very light on
their feet. Elephants, you know, they're not like that. I
mean a rhinoceros maybe if it was like twice the
weight standing up running at us. That's what it sounded like.

(36:41):
There's no, there's nothing to compare what this stomping felt like.
It was amazing. And like I said that, we tried
to figure out where it might have been watching us from,
and it was about fifty yards down. I go, so
I kind of know where fifty or sixty yards is,

(37:03):
And it was like this kind of a cleared out
little area to where it had a good vantage point
to see the suv up there, because that's where we
would park to go hiking. Again, that's where we parked,
and they had a good vantage point. But I and
I believe to this day it took us a while
to figure out, but I believe the bigfoot, if that's

(37:24):
what it was coming up at us, was coming up
to protect us that I did this aggressive roar that
I was replicating, and it might have thought it was
some other kind of creature or another bigfoot or something
that was going to hurt the four of us, So
it exposed itself by rushing up to protect us, perhaps

(37:47):
and then realized that we're all scrambling to get in
the vehicle, that we're all okay, it stopped, because it
must have stopped ten feet from us. I mean, it
felt like he was ten feet away every step. I mean,
it was just I can't you cannot fathom what this

(38:08):
sounded like. I've heard of fast running, I've heard of
lots of things, but never and this is going uphill
at us. It was just amazing. Like it said, it's
sounded like two tree trunks stomping up at us, which
doesn't make sense. But that big around, you know, their
legs just huge. All right, let me tell you about

(38:31):
something else. Okay, Now we've been to that area a
few times since. There is probably about a mile from there,
an area where we believe there's a nest, but that's
in another next to a community, which is you know,
odd in itself, but it's far enough, deep enough that

(38:54):
they would never be able to find them or see them.
And that's they, I believe, have centuries out there protecting
their little ones or other things too. But we get
back out there quite a bit. So let's see. I
helped a couple of people. This one lady. I was
riding my electric bike in an area and I stopped

(39:17):
at this little shanty that they had selling you know,
tapestries and beads and different things. I stopped there and
she noticed my bigfoot shirt. She goes, oh, that's kind
of inn s. I like your shirt. I think, oh, thanks,
you know, I'm part of the Pennsylvania Bigfoot project. He
goes her eyes like lit up, like I got to
tell you something. Do you get a minute, you know?

(39:39):
And I said, well, sure, you know, so I said, yeah,
of course. So she said I had to sell my house.
I was I lived in this area, and I won't
tell you what area, but she saw a dog man
and I would say it was because of the description

(39:59):
she gave. She said, it was the most evil creature
I've ever seen, Glenn. It was like forty feet away
from me in my I was in my house, my
big picture windows, and this creature was just staring through me.
She said, it could it knew where I was walking,
It knew where I was. It could tell I think.
And she said a game in this glare like I

(40:23):
just want to kill you. I just want to rip
you a part. That's what she was saying. And I
didn't coach her anything. And I asked her about the ears,
you know, without you know, raising my hand or anything.
And she grabbed her hand and she raised her fingers
as high as goes. They were huge, they were well
high and pointy, you know, like a Dobeman's except huge. Okay,

(40:47):
you remember the face, and she said it was just
this evil gnarl. Not it was canine, but it was
more evil looking, she said, you know, like devil. I
don't know whatever she kind of leaned toward. So she

(41:08):
said that she put her house for sale. She sold it.
She moved, she you know, and that's that's that's kind
of scary, you know. But I talked her down for
about thirty minutes or forty minutes, and I said, hey,
I'll be back after dinner, you know. And so I
went at dinner and I came back and we talked

(41:28):
to another twenty or thirty minutes. But you just to
kind of calm her down. I said, the creature wasn't
there to bother you. It's not going to bother you again,
you know. And there's there's triggers that I gave her
to try and help her through this if it comes
up in her nightmares or things. So I tried to
help this guy, you know person. That's a lot of

(41:51):
what our Pennsylvania Bigfoot Project is is talking to people
that have encounters and getting them through it. Because people
there's not ready for it. You know, you don't expect
to see something like that. That's just massive, and the
abilities and the speed that they have, you don't can't
fathom some creature can just jump fifteen feet up into

(42:15):
a tree. You don't expect that. I mean, there's some
hand witnesses that have told me some pretty pretty bizarre things.
We're going on this another area near a reservoir. Now
behind this reservoir is a massive laurel fields or a
laurel area. There's creeks going through them and all that,

(42:37):
And I've always had a good feeling about Bigfoot in
that area. I used to leave like like little glow
sticks or little little trinkets in half the time they
would be taken. Adam and I went out there and
we were hiking, and we left a little glow turtle

(43:00):
and he left a little blue shell. Well, the turtle
was taken. The shell wasn't, doesn't you know, Okay, maybe
the paint didn't appeal to him whatever, But the glowing
turtle they liked, so they took that. But we were
out there and this is a different night and we

(43:20):
I decided to talk like I do to Bigfoot, and
I said you know, you know, hey, you know, do
you want us to come to you or do you
want to come to us? You know, give us a sign,
give it, let us know, you know, talk to us,
or let us give us a sign. And Adam said
a few things, and we were just quiet, you know,

(43:41):
keeping our you know, with about us, you know, talking
a little bit, but listening a lot. All of a sudden,
we started hearing these footsteps coming toward us. And they're
coming from an area that's on the other side of
this little creek. But it's a solid, solid laurels and woods.

(44:03):
You can't walk in a straight line in that type
of that type of foliage, and these steps were coming
what sounded like in a direct line toward us. And
it was bizarre because it didn't make sense that how

(44:23):
could they walk We're hearing it, like, are they mimicking
the sound of walking or was just very bizarre, and
so Adam and I left. About half an hour later.
We started and we said, well, let's leave our trinkets
that we brought, you know, we'll find a tree or
we'll find something to mark them, and we'll leave something.

(44:45):
I think we were leaving acorns in dates or something
that night. You know, we tried different things. I can't
remember that night, but we were also going over toward
one of the other paths, and as we got maybe
ten or fifteen feet into the path, I stopped and
I got this bad feeling, and I said, Adam, we're

(45:07):
not going in here tonight. There's something you know, not right.
So we didn't and I turned and we walked back
out and we drove out. If I get a bad feeling,
I'm not going to pursue it. And I mean, I believe,
I trust my instinct. I didn't feel like the right situation,

(45:28):
like something maybe was trying to trick us or trap us.
I didn't like the situation. So we did not go
in that side. And that's a lot of things that
that's kind of what happens, all right. Another time, Let's see,
we went up to hike out toward one of the
lookout towers. There's a few lookout towers and radio station

(45:50):
towers up in this area, and we were up there
pretty high. We went up to the tower and we
have to hike about a half an hour up there,
and we have some parabolic microphone. We had a new
gentleman with us and we let him listen to the
parabolic while we're Ag and I were kind of looking
scouting the area around, and all of a sudden, he goes, Glenn, Glenn,

(46:12):
come on back over here. So I came back over there,
and he says, Glenn, I'm hearing something and I think
it's a I think it's a I think it's like
a It sounds like a siren, but it's a human,
you know. And I'm all right, I keep facing it
right where you are, and I took the my headphones
off of him and put them on so he didn't

(46:34):
change his direction. And then I heard it. It was
a howl. It was definitely a howl. It was long
and then went up and then drop back down the
sound and then as Adam got closer Aj I think
it was AG or Adam. I'm not sure for that day,
but one of them came and I said, here, listen
to this too, is Adam? Yeah, So Adam listened to

(46:56):
it too, and he could definitely hear the howl. You know,
he heard it probably one of the best, either you know,
the gentleman we were with or him. So this guy
was so excitedly, Hey, could I call my wife? I
want to tell my why you know, I'm like, sure,
you know, but you know, with a paramollic microphone, it
might have been a mile away because it wasn't it

(47:17):
wasn't up close, but we could tell a definite of
that it was communicating to others from this howl. It
might have been two miles away. With a paramolic you
can can't really tell that far away. So he called
his wife, Alex Hited and tells her, and you know,
we continue for another forty minutes, and then we hiked
back down, and we're hiking down toward where that sound

(47:39):
is coming from, because that's the way we're going out.
That didn't see anything else that night. But there's there's
a lot of interesting stories. Let's see. I mentioned the
Pennsylvania Bigfoot Project. Mary Fabian is the founder of the group.
I am the assistant director for the state of Pennsylvania.
I carried the whole northeast region of Pennsylvania, so I

(48:01):
care of cover about fourteen counties personally. If there's anything
going on, I go investigate or pretty much to the
half of the state that's in the east. If there's
something going on, I have someone in the south. But
you know, they broke up to the individual counties. We
used to have groups in every county and we still do.
It's just they kind of run it a little bit

(48:23):
differently the group now. So if there's an exciting we
just contact that area and then we investigate it and
then one of us will follow up if we need to.
We get a lot of reports on the Facebook group.
We have over twenty thousand members and it's a private group.
You have to you know, it's not hard, just answer
a few questions and then we monitor any new hire

(48:46):
or new recruits for six eight months or more, you know,
just to make sure they're not patrol or trying to
cause problem with people who goes, we'll just boot them off,
not worry about. We don't believe in killing bigfoot or
anything like that. We call them research, not hunting, because
we're not hunting them. You know, we know better. They're protective.

(49:10):
I'll tell you if there are something going on in
the woods and like say one of them is giving birth,
and you've heard this a lot that you hear people
talk about a hearing a woman screaming in the woods
and they don't know what's going on, and they go
toward it. And they can never find it and or
they get chased out of the area by a bigfoot.

(49:33):
You know, all of a sudden, a tree a good
pushed down and the grunting will start. And no, they're
not going to let you near a birthing area if
you're a human going into that area. No they might,
you know, gently, not jew and then they'll get a
little more aggressive. They'll toss the little rocks or bigger
rocks or whatever they got to do to persuade you

(49:56):
not to go that way, right up to whatever that takes.
And that makes sense. You know, bigfoot of protective of
their families and clans, and I believe that they have
centuries and there's gosh can go on on. There's times

(50:17):
where you know that they're there. I don't know how
to put this, but they don't always make themselves known.
But you'll see the birds react differently, and it's they
do that for humans too. But when a bigfoot is
in the area, everything goes silent. It's different. You won't

(50:41):
hear a cricket at night, you won't hear a locust,
whoper will owe anything anything. All of a sudden, everything
goes silent. Now I don't know, and I've heard this happen.
I'd say twenty times in my life that everything has
gone silent. And I don't mean quiet, I mean silent.

(51:04):
It's like everything in the world has stopped except for
you and that creature or humans in the creatures. I
don't know how that, if that's true, if that happens,
I don't know. But I mean I've walked into an area,
you hear everything going on, you pass a certain tree,

(51:26):
and everything goes silent. It's weird. I mean death quiet. Well,
let's see. I mean, that's about all I have to
say right now on those. You know, I don't want
to get into other people's stories because these are my accounts,
and these are the ones. I mean. I've hiked into

(51:47):
these laurels with Bob and other investigators where we had
to crawl into these laurels. They're so thick, and you're
trying to find these nests or trying to find areas,
and it's very easy to get lost, you know. I mean,
I had somebody I had a red cap on in
the snow, and we went five feet into the laurels

(52:08):
and they were on up above us, thirty feet above us.
And they couldn't see us five feet in we were gone,
you know. And that's what the red hat on ski cat.
So you know, it's a great camouflage. I do know
that they are edible for some animals. Deer will eat

(52:30):
the mountain laurels. They get inebriated from them. They get
a little bit sick, but they get drunk or inebriated,
it says from the mountain laurels. So think about a bigfoot.
If they're a creature that lives among the laurels for coverage,
they can eat them year round and it gives them

(52:50):
gets them inebriated. That's something think about. When I was
camping at Hickory Run Forest, we went Tim and I
one of our investigators, we went hiking around and we
found an area below one of the other campsites. It's
toward the creek. Probably there's like three levels from the

(53:11):
creek up to where the campsite is. First level is
you know, maybe five feet above the creek, and then
the next level is like five feet above that, and
then the campsites themselves is about five feet above that
till three levels. At the first level just above the creek,
we found I found three laurel branches that weren't They

(53:37):
had to be carried there because there wasn't any laurels
right in that particular spot. All the leaves on half
of each one of those branches were eating off okay,
like they'd broken off a branch about you know, three
foot branch you know, around or whatever, all the leaves

(53:57):
on it, ate all the leave is off of half
of it, and then left it and then grabbed another
or had another one eat half of the leaves off
of that one. And it was like three of those there,
or there was three of them there, and they got
startled and had to leave. I don't know, but not
many animals can break a branch off of a laurel,

(54:20):
carry it to another area, and eat the leaves, but
only eat half of them, like they're just plucking them off.
You know, a deer wouldn't do that. It wouldn't break
a branch and then carry it over somewhere. We just
it was going. Did we just eat it off of
the plant? You know, most little animals couldn't do that,

(54:41):
couldn't break a branch off anyway. So kind of leads
you toward bigfoot that can eat those kind of plants.
They have developed appendix where they can eat foliage. And
you know, we don't know how their stomachs work or
how their bodies work, but I'm sure that vegetari veggies
are a big part of that. And we don't know

(55:03):
what kind of calorie intake they can get from the laurels.
I don't know. I haven't really researched that end of it,
but that might be something to look into, because to
support that big of a creature, you'd need to have
a pretty good calorie intake. Obviously, other animals and other
things that are abundant, but plants are important. All right. Well, vic,

(55:25):
I think that's about it for right now. I gotta,
you know, save something for next year, and we are
going out this week, so I'll let you know how
how those go.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
Well, that's it for tonight's show. If you've had a
big Foot siding and would like to be a guest,
please go to my Bigfoot Siding dot com and let
us know. Thanks for listening, have a great night.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
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the Fasting Melodies cooving in the bomb man rose with
the rooss run deep beyond the nose of the busy
streets with the songs of the South of Su. Then

(56:10):
I mean I hear the promp porch picking down home rhythm,
bringing nat I don't run from Banjong music.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
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bluegrass playing the madaddy Jack. It's become many been through it,
getting through the day on scrubs and skags, booking name
bears through this Tennessee jams.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
There's no the way that I do it.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
When I hear the plump porch picking down home rhythm
bringing nat, I don't run from ben Jong music.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
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sword and the strumbling look and touki start.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
There's strumming now cut your both.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
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bringing us battle from from men give.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
The city last draws me bad on the two music
cars rushing by with the bastes on the stereos to man.
When I hit the brown boat.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Picking down home bringing nuts run from man of music. Yeah,
something going backwards backwards and double tub getting there, the
sword and the strumbling looking Turki star there's strumming.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Cuts, your bo living.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
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the Bringiondas battle from.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
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Speaker 3 (58:28):
Some colo back works backwards and double tunking in the
soul and the drumming looking took stars because of the
end of strumming down because you're.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Both leaving head.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
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