Podcast Episode 07: Parental Alienation and Resilience.

In this episode of "My Wife Joined a Cult," Craig Shoemaker shares personal experiences dealing with volatile personalities and emotional abuse. He reflects on parental alienation, co-parenting struggles, and ongoing legal battles. Craig offers advice on maintaining integrity and resilience, emphasizing the importance of emotional intelligence and accountability. Tune in for a powerful narrative of conflict, self-discovery, and the pursuit of truth and love.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Well, you probably can't see this because most of you
are listening, but if you are watching, we'll probably put
this on YouTube. This is a shirt came up with
it saying here stuck between Nama stay and kissed my ass.
I live in California, but I'm from Philadelphia and that's

(00:25):
how I live. Embrace you at the same time, I'll
mace you. So I wore the shirt because it could
be my final episode. Actually it's not going to be.
It's gonna be my final episode of just me talking,
but I'm probably gonna lead to guests. We'll see how
the reaction is. People want more. You'll let me know
if you want more. Craigshoemaker dot com, write me a note.

(00:49):
Official Craig Shoemaker on Instagram. I've done none of this
promotion up until this point. You just want to be
raw and real and let this out. Several in the
intentions even keep changing. One I just thought of is
set the record straight. She has defamed my character, so
is the wife before that. They have defamed my character

(01:13):
in saying things that aren't true. And men are defenseless
on this. We really are. Women are to be believed.
Women get you know, if the woman's not working, they
get half of everything. It's just it's the balance is
it's off. I read some notes from other women or

(01:34):
noticing this in the last episode, but my little pitches
buy a T shirt helped me out. It's not gonna
do anything. Won't put a dent when we first when
she first pulled this, you know, stealing the money, and
you know she moved a million dollars over into her account.

(01:55):
She had a private account. I don't know if I
finished that story. Yeah, she moved the money, changed the password,
and I finished. I don't think I finished that damn story. Well,
there you go. That's the lengths that she can go
to with debauchery. She just can't be a good person anymore.
She moved the bank, she changed the password on the
bank account, one that I trusted her with. I said, okay,

(02:17):
I'll sure, I'll go haves eas or whatever. You know.
I'm just I do things with such good intentions. I
see the good in people, and I still do. I'm
not bitter enough to say okay, and I can't fall
in love again. That's definitely available to me as I
fall more in love with life and keep this energy

(02:41):
flowing being of service to others, making people laugh. This
is really the jam workshops. Now. I've did a big pivot,
especially COVID into the alchemy of laughter. I've Laughter Heels
Foundation had it for years. But we're just up in
the level on all of this. I really want to

(03:02):
help people. That's it. It's a major reason for doing this.
And also, yeah, set the record straight. Maybe if one
person hears it that thinks one thing that thought all
this time, maybe Ginny who I named Ginny, maybe she'll
listen and go, wow, I was mean to this guy
and it was really my friend who was horrible. Some

(03:23):
other examples are I had the remote to the house
that I'm now in. You know that she moved us into.
She moved us fully into this house with a full
intention of leaving. So that's a terrible thing to do
to kids. And I hope Genny and other people understand it.
You don't do that to children. That's a manipulative that.
She said, we're going to live here, just settle in

(03:45):
the dishes. Everything went into the place. Here's your room,
here's all the decorations, everything, and then she moved them
out in the middle of the night and kidnapped them
and took him to a private place, and that is
going to have an effect on them. But the thing is,
she's never apologized. So I want those people that she
said those things. Maybe you'll say to Orr, have you
ever apologized to your children? Sh'll probably lie and say

(04:06):
she did, But she has not. She's never sat down
with any of us and said that was really not
a good thing that I did. I should respect this man.
He's your father. I don't love him anymore, but you
should respect him too. And that's the message that I
would hope that someday when she comes back, if she

(04:27):
comes back to consciousness, I don't know. I did read
those letters, which does give me a little hope that
maybe she will. You shall work on herself, like, truly
work on herself, not be guided by a fraud. This
phony stuff, you know, holding spell all that stuff. It's
a bunch of crap. Goddesses and all this, and so
it's a bunch of crap, so egotistical crap. So I

(04:52):
had the remote to my own garage that she had
one too, and she had some excuse. She makes excuses,
she lies, and so I said give me the remote back, please,
and she wouldn't. So I reached into her car because
she got out to get something is in my driveway,
and I reached in the car and she grabs it
with violence. You know she doesn't. She threw it at

(05:13):
my face and just as Chloe was pulling up with someone.
She witnessed this. A few days later, Halloween party, the
kids at Chloe's school, a little third grader at the time,
and right in front of these kids, I said, come on, Mika,
I just whispered, Oh, come on, let's just get along

(05:34):
for her sake. Here we are, it's her Halloween party.
And she punched me in the schoolyard in front of people,
witnessed by a teacher and some other people. Punched me
and then walked away. That's what she does, really well.
She walks away, and it's unprovoked. These things are unprovoked.

(05:57):
People always say, oh, it's the guy I'm not provoking.
I literally will say things, Hey, i'b aut peace, We'll
go back to Malley, vibe all those things. That's what
I say. That's what brings this out in her. She
gets so furious. Another time she was at the safe house.
I finally figured out where it was imagine that. By
the way, I have no idea I'm paying for it,
by the way, no idea where the children are, no

(06:18):
idea where they're staying, no idea where this house is.
Is this place that the other dude tried to help
her find and everything else, because she's being abused and
she needs to escape and get out and be safe,
and it's this whole safe thing, and so I feel safe.
It's an illusion. There's plenty of safety. It's right there.

(06:39):
So I went there and I flashed the peace signs again. Hey.
I came to the window, the big window. The kids
are there, Hey Daddy, Hey dad, And she charged me
in a full rage, scratches me, pushes me out the
door as I'm staying in there with peace signs. It's

(07:04):
just one after another. I called the police once, went
to the police another time. Anyone want to guess where
that goes. Ones that did show up showed him a
mark that she made. They said, pal uh, we just
cleaned up some guy that smatched his wife's head into

(07:25):
the cement. You think we're going to do something with this?
And they just walked away. Try to warn them, And
then I found a woman at the police station. She
really seemed to have compassion, and I said, wow, I
gotta gets somebody on my sign here. And I had recordings,
you know, I would record her and uh oh she

(07:46):
would flip and she sees the recorder out. Oh boy
me while she would record me, always hypocritical and put
that away. And I don't give you, I don't give
you permission. She's coached by broke. And I said to

(08:08):
this woman, I said, thank you so much for having
this empathy and listening to me. I felt a little
bit of hope. Nope, she says, oh, I couldn't find her,
and then I did, and she said she hasn't done
any of these things, and just believed her. That's the
way it is. So who knows what can happen when

(08:31):
someone is a violent person like this, someone who's volatile
can go off at any second of temper tantrums. She
even had a temper tantrum in mediation, something she promised
to do instead of going to lawyers. Meanwhile, eighty thousand
dollars later with the lawyers. Yeah, still at lawyers. She
swore that we would not do that. Another lie. Is

(08:54):
there a friend that would actually say to her? You lie?
This much. Can she say that to herself? I lie this.
She justifies all the lives or just couches them in
a different way. I need it to the safety and
all this kind of stuff. It's a punch of crap.
So I received these text messages out of nowhere. This
from Broke's boyfriend Meet Rundle, just big announcement. She has

(09:21):
to tell everybody, tell the world about her sex life
and how the dominates her and BDSM and sado masochism,
all this stuff. And I know the world of opening
up my I don't even I can't even say it
because I try to keep this a little clean in
case I don't know. It could be young people listening.
By the way, young people, if you're listening and you

(09:43):
have parents that are going down this road, warn people,
go to people, have coct courage, go to people and
say I'm really worried. My kids are worried about her.
They have here in therapy and that's where you're safe.
And she compromised their therapy by going to the therapist
and have me reported the child services for something I
didn't even do. That's how the length that she'll go.

(10:06):
They're not in therapy now. They're in therapy, and they
would tell her the terrible things that she would do.
We got a dog, and the dog was supposed to shuttle.
Then she stopped. That there are controlling ways because she
didn't pick the dog and this whole thing. She's much
better today, but in the meantime, Nope, she's boundary girl. Nope,

(10:26):
I've gotta have this dog, and lied said my landlord
won't have it. And she watches two dogs. She watched
two dogs in the house that she said the landlord
won't let her have a dog. Two dogs she lies
as all. It's the size of them. Just doesn't stop.

(10:48):
So I get this text message. Programmed people can lie
easily and live in secrecy and deception. It doesn't mean
anything to them. That's how programmed she now is. She
spent hundreds of hours being programmed and brainwashed. I might
have said before I asked my kids, what do you
think the reason for the divorce was? What are you

(11:09):
going to tell people in the future? She says, our
mom was brainwashed by this criminal. That's what they say now.
Of course, Broke and Lotus will say, oh, I brainwashed
them to tell say that. No, they witnessed it. Sorry.
They witnessed this. They witnessed mommy being this amazing person,

(11:29):
the person that wrote some of those letters before, who
did self evaluate a bit, was loving, brought these children
in love into the world. Is still a decent mother.
I don't think it's a good mother that says that
to the father. I really don't. I say, with the
reverse parry and alienation is awful. Luckily, the first two children,

(11:53):
they really did suffer for it. I mean, they have
the effects. It's the rough go with them. I gotta
do a lot of work with that too. Letting go.
That's hard. It's hard knowing what I get. Dedicated myself
to them as well, but their mom really beat the
hell out of them with messaging about me. These two

(12:13):
don't believe one bit of it. Now, it's fantastic. We
just really hit it off and it's just wonderful. Today
we went to kickboxing in Santa Barbara. We drove there
and we did a kickboxing class, and we were horseback riding,
and we went to Vegas to four different shows and
we just have an extraordinary time. Our rescue dog really

(12:36):
is rescuing us as we're rescuing her. We're all in
a lot of sadness. Their mom has taking us down
a road that these children did not deserve to go down.
She acts like a good mother, She does the motherly
things and shows up at school and volunteers, so all
the people at school think she's got her image, the

(12:58):
ego and the posts, oh look wakes her look good?
Is not good? Stuff. Could have worked on your marriage
a little more, a lot more. As many hours as
you spent with them, go on a date with your
husband didn't happen. She listened to this broke constantly, a

(13:21):
barrage of her thoughts, on feelings and every feeling. She
never had a silent thought this woman, and she went
along with it. That's what cults do. That's why it's
a cult. That's why this is called it's a cult.
I don't care what you say. It's so. It's not
a religion, not scientology. It's a woman who's a leader
that people people deify. So here's what Lotus did. She

(13:49):
had this guy attack me, the boyfriend of the cult leader.
So they three hundred miles away are more important than
the father of your children. That's who's more important. She
felt that I threatened because I did say you know.
I heard about a lawsuit about somebody else want They

(14:10):
won a lawsuit over a million dollars from suing because
there was a cult. I talked to Kathryn Oxenburg and
her daughter was in a cult Nexium. There's great documentary
called The Vow. Lost her daughter for years to this
horrible guy who's in prison now. By the way, these
egomaniacs that run these cults, it's amazing to me how

(14:35):
people can give their lives or my dad, fourteen different women,
a mother, daughter and everything, gave their lives to him,
all their possessions, everything to him. I've watched it happen.
It's amazing how there's a repeat. He was an entrepreneur
French word for scam artists. He did all the same things.
And it's like I married my mother, I mean, marry

(14:56):
my dad. You're supposed to marry your mother. I marry
my dad. Crazy. That's amazing how some of these patterns exists.
I always think of raging Ball. You're never gonna take
me down. You didn't. You didn't knock me down. Ray
not gonna get knocked down. Be there for all four
children if the other two end up. You know, if

(15:21):
you apologizing or coming back and saying, look, you know
this is we took it the way it took our
mom's path. And it's amazing to me how people can
justify these actions, how they can just you know, I
just I coached their teams, I was there for their college,
I got them in college, got them jobs, everything, every
sacrifice you could imagine. And that woman did nothing but

(15:46):
hurt and hurt and hurt and accused and all that.
You know, never never really a career jobs. This is
what she taught them. Gossip, rumors, toxicity, attack to a
collusion and all that stuff is what they were taught.

(16:07):
This time she's trying, but they're not buying it, which
is great. So this guy attacks me out of nowhere.
I read the text. I read it to my kids,
by the way, and because he's making accusations about how
I am with these kids, I'm gonna lose the kids
and all this kind of stuff. So he says, I

(16:29):
have every MeMail I am Broke, Broke's partner and Lotus's friend.
I have every email message you've ever sent to Broke
and Lotus saved every attack on Facebook with snapshots. I
have every message sent to my company from your followers
attacking me because I'm with broke and they attacked me

(16:49):
on Facebook and Yelp. And by the way, you know,
I tell the truth. I actually don't know what he's
talking about. I didn't know his company until recently when
I did a little research, so I have no idea
what he's talking about. It's made up. They make this
stuff up so they can be the victim and ironically
calling me the victim. And we'll get to that. I

(17:11):
have photos that you sent lotus of your at the
time girlfriend in lingerie with you saying to your wife,
she's not my ex wife, this is who I'm sleeping
with now again admitting yes I did, but admitting again
I wasn't sleeping with her. I had a picture of

(17:32):
someone in lingerie and I wanted to make her jealous
and I said she's awesome or whatever. I said. It
was mean spirited whatever. I'm Yeah, I have reactions, and
that was one of them, a stupid one, and I
apologize for But he's still using this And what the
hell is she doing sending this stranger photos that I

(17:54):
sent her? What does that have to do with anything?
It's because of bribery in which you're I'm going to
get to here. He's threatening me. I have photos. I
have photo proof. What the hell proof is it? Yeah?
I sent some I sent maybe one two photos of
this gorgeous woman in lingerie. I've never touched her, but

(18:15):
I happened to have these photos and I sent them
and I was like, oh good, maybe she'll maybe she'll
get jealous. A couple of years ago, I need you
to stop doing what you're doing and put away your sword,
like I have a sword out. I've never contacted this man.
I've never contacted broke, just lying. He says, I have
enough in my back pocket to open up a lot

(18:35):
of eyes and can take care of take this as
far as you'd like. Take care, Rundle, I have enough
of my back pocket. Where's he getting that from? Oh?
Then I said something to him because I heard he
was a trust fun baby and I had heard they

(18:58):
break up all the time, which is true. I have researched.
Don't make the money that she says that she does,
by the way, to lie, but she doesn't care that
she lies. All about the image. What's it going to
look like? Covering up? Covering up? I see these phony
laughs and phony smiles and phone. I watch her interview.
She's really good. She's good if you believe her. But

(19:22):
so are all these kind of artists. They're all good.
So she so she starts sending him these things, and
I said back to him, I said, we creep and
I had my kids. They actually said my son. He's
so kind. He's so kind to his little sister. He

(19:44):
doesn't want to curse in front of her, so he
waited till she walked away. We're walking the dog in
the field, he says, Roundel his real name. You don't
know jack shit about our family, he says, And he
never curses. He's right, you don't know anything. But what
is she doing? What is lotus doing bringing this guy

(20:06):
into this? So I responded to this guy. I started
going right back at him, and then I went philly
and I said, look, I heard I heard it. I've
heard some awful things about you I got from my sources,
including that he beat up her son Ocean. So this

(20:27):
is what the balls on this guy. So now he
defends himself, which is funny. What are you defending their buddy?
Because he knows they all know that they're frauds deep down.
They know it. So now he justifies his threats, and
I'll read a few more of them to you. But
he says, this is a mention message I just now

(20:48):
sent to lotus high, beautiful person. That's how these people
tell hey, beautiful person who I don't even know that
I've been with a few times, medicine journeys, probably a
group sex. I have no idea. When I say I
have no idea, that's speculation. We're not going to go

(21:10):
by that to all the rest is fact. I do
have the little speculations. And I don't know whatever happened
to her brain if she did these things, this medicine journey,
I have no idea, which is they use plant medicine
and it was not. Ayahuasca was another one. I don't know.
I do know that she came back wa could do
all different perspectives. One day, I'm the king, next day

(21:33):
I'm divorcing you. You know, next day she saw the
death of our child. I mean, just really, so they
all went together, these medicine journeys, her and Rundel, and
at the time Broke was married and cheating with this guy.
Please let Craig know that I feed the people in
my community, and I've been on my own from the
age of fifteen and started my company at twenty three.

(21:56):
That's what I said, that he was a I had
heard he was a trust fund guy and broke was using,
which she probably is because she couldn't get that sovereign
freedom on her own, couldn't make that kind of money
on her own. I heard they broke up a number
of times. I happen to know this is all true.
Please let him know. Let him know that I coach
Ocean's football and family comes first for me. Please let

(22:16):
him know he sends this to me, this is what
a nut. These are not things he'd hear from me
and soak in. Let him know that my daughter of
twenty two has epilepsy and is my greatest concern in
finding her a way to find her way through this.
Let him know the damage he's inflicted on all his
children's I'm growing weary and ready to throw down the

(22:38):
gauntlet and expose him for what he truly is. I
love you, and I believe in you. Who's he love?
Does he believe it? So? It lives three hundred miles away? Girlfriend? Brainwashed?
Who's he love? Is it love? I know? I know love.

(23:00):
I married her, I committed to her. We committed to
one another. That's what love is. Not based on some
phony cult like follow me into an orgasm program and
the soap into all those things. That's not what love is.

(23:21):
That's a transactional relationship. And he says to me, Craig
with exclamation wars, you're damaging force in your children's lives.
You're extremely self serving and causing damage. And that's the
thing causing damage. I've said this to my ex lotus.

(23:41):
I said, do you have any idea the damage that
you're causing? And this guy's saying I'm causing damage. First
of all, how does he know? As he knows, he's
never talked to the kids once. This is something I
will follow through with today. I need you to understand,

(24:02):
I'll be sitting with my attorney on money to discuss
our options on slander and defamation of character you're spreading.
I have enough in my back pocket to open up
a lot of eyes and I'll take this as far
as you'd like. Sounds pretty threatening, doesn't it. Everybody? Look
at the situation you've created with my other two sons
he names them. Really, that's that's what he does. That's

(24:30):
what he does. He takes these names, he doesn't know
any of it, uses the other names all four kids,
doesn't know them, makes all these assumptions. And this tells
you the power of lying, the power of these grifters,
calling her his beloved and all this kind of stuff.

(24:53):
Their Phoni's everybody. He says, you're causing your children harm.
I'm going to stop you in one way or another.
I need to understand this as I am a fighter.
Anybody want to take that as a threat. What do
you think Lotus reads all this and doesn't do a

(25:17):
single thing about it. She denies it. She goes, oh
he's she told the kids, Oh he has a temper
or whatever. Really, so you're gonna put this guy with
a temper on me? Child? Suppoard, I deliver, deliver all this,
make sure they stay in this beautiful community. He says,
I will protect Lotus and Broke with everything in my power.

(25:40):
I pray for your children and the results of your destruction. Pray.
It's another thing the phone he's doing. They'll say, they're pray.
I pray for you. Oh he's not. Ask yourself that question.
You think that this man, this stranger who came into
Broke's life, and now they have to put those photos

(26:00):
of themselves with their engagement and videos and have to
talk about their sex life and BDSM and all of
that stuff. Do you really think that this is a
prayer person. He's actually praying for me, a person he
doesn't know, He doesn't know any specifics about, only through
her eyes. This is what he's doing. A man of

(26:23):
integrity does not act out this is what he says,
does not act in a matter of this way and
expose his children to this and create trauma that will
take years to repair. Exactly Rundel. That's called projection. That's
what projection is. He's saying exactly what she's doing. She's

(26:46):
damaging them for years, not me. And they will tell
you this. They told their mom this when she screamed
up and down and stamped up and down and yelled
at them and blamed me. It's heah, yeah. Think about
their lives in the future. Are they going to trust

(27:08):
the opposite sex? And they watch how this went down,
They watch them fathers committed, and why would they want
to commit? Look what the father got stolen from, lied to,
abused violence, hit That's what you get there. That's that's damage, Brundle.

(27:39):
These are these are just printed these out. These are
text messages from him. Your relationship with your children heading
down the same path as my other children. That's what
he says about these. This is a repeat. And yet

(28:01):
you see, don't understand the impact of the harm you're causing.
How in the world does he know any of this?
Where does he get that from? He gets it from
someone who's doing the same thing. I asked her to
stop doing, and so of our kids asked her to stop. Mommy,
stop stop spreading these rumors, Stop defaming the will use

(28:21):
the word to fame. They're defaming my character. That's what
she does with this guy. I'm not going to justify
answering anything else you've written for the blame. You're playing
the victim in every way. He's talking like he knows me.

(28:41):
Hope one day you realize that damage you're creating for
your children and telling them everything negative and made up
stories about their mother as he know that, how does
she know that she's not here? I actually tell the
kids all the time, all the love stories about their mom,
what an incredible human being she was, That's what I

(29:06):
tell them. They get to see the other side. They
witness it, They witness someone who's given herself her life
over to these people, people that would write a letter
like this, I have enough in my back pocket to

(29:26):
take you down, and their mother will help me in this.
My ex wife before this apparently, by the way, anythink
that makes me feel? That means, oh, Lotus is going
to the ex who she always despised and had to
give us nothing but trouble. Now she's going to her.

(29:47):
She's going to her to attack me. What do you
think about that? How am I supposed to feel about that?
How am I supposed to react? Well, again, our society
is pretty disappointing to me. I went to my lawyer.
He did nothing. This should be a restraining order. They

(30:11):
never backed up from this. I've asked, I've asked Lotus
to address this. She just denies it. I said, well,
where did you get their names? And where does he
get these ideas? She has no answer. This was also
in the same batch. By the way, things printed up.

(30:32):
Oh I it says I have enough to have your
children taken from you and your family will help in this.
Let that sink in. I did I have enough to
have your children taken from you. Your family will help
me with this. That's that's illegal, and these people can

(31:01):
get away with it. Have you noticed how criminals get
away with things in the society. It's almost I remember
Raving she ended up winning her lawsuit after stealing five
hundred thousand dollars. This is how it works. I ended
up compromising on the money that my extole. She stole

(31:23):
all that money, she moved it over to a private account.
That's how insidious she is. She can do all these
things in the middle of the night. She's so good
at it, driven by rage that she's not dealing with trauma,
not dealing with two brothers committed suicide within within weeks
of one another, mental illness in the family. Doesn't deal

(31:46):
with it. This is illness. All of these actions, you've
put them all together, which have gone over them, all
the episodes, that's a lot of episodes, and won't deal
with it. It's just funny that this stuck in there.
This guy writes, Craig Shoemaker, only mushrooms, and you have

(32:07):
made me sore from laughing. Long live the love Master,
keep living, and I'll keep making people laugh and inspiring people.
I love it. I hope this podcast so different from
anything I've ever done. I hope it leads to something profound, shift,

(32:36):
something good, some hope, some hope for my children because
they know mom's lost, and they're very clear on it.
They're detached from her. They go through the stuff and
she's there for them, and she'll take them the different things.
You know, took our son to snowboarding and things like that. Yeah,

(32:59):
she's gonna do that now. She probably has the money
from the new boyfriend. That's where her freedom is. Because
she hasn't come after me for money in a while.
I want to say, tell your potential clients, if you're
so free with money, then why are you asking me
for money? Why have you ripped me off? Why have
you stolen that money? She got another fifty eight thousand dollars.

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It's not chump change just because I surrendered. I mean
to me, the freedom is the surrender. That's your tip.
As much surrendering as possible, surrender ideas, surrender outcome, surrender results,
surrender being right. Those amends that I did was a

(33:45):
very cleansing thing. I still continue to do it. I
wrote her one pretty recently as well. Now I will
tell you an amends. I'm going to write this is
off the cuff. She has done some things recently that
are would be considered sweet, she sends me, I could
read these A number of text messages, A lot of

(34:08):
text messages, I think. I think the most recent one,
the most recent one was another. I think she was Oh,
she does what she is kind of a trick though
she does the lure me in by saying something nice,
as if I'm an ego maniac. She's the ego maniac.
She needs to be complimented all and praised all the time.

(34:30):
I don't need that or want that. I have though
it's not my thing. She's good morning, exclamation point. May
I express my appreciation for your presence for the kids,
and I feel comfort knowing that they can focus on
work while the kids are well. I can focus on
work while the kids are taken care of. May I
also ask if you received the email from my attorney.

(34:53):
He believes he's waiting for response. It's not true. It's usual.
It's a lie. I've asked her loads of times for
they get back to me. But the bullying takes place.
It's a bully, emotional bully. That's the irony is she
calls shit in the beginning. That's what she told her friends.
It's emotional abuse. Well, this is emotional abuse. I don't

(35:15):
want to be a victim to it. That's why I'm
doing this. That's why I keep taking care of things.
That's why I stay with my coaches. I need to
stay clean and keep my side of this streak clean.
But as I was saying, I wandered into not so

(35:36):
nice because I smell the phony. I smell the thing
that she's doing. It's a trick. Maybe it's not, though,
So that's my issue. So I do zingers back long
text messages. Here we go again, here's Craig. It's almost
like she's getting what she wants. But it's my sabotage too.
That's what I wrote about in the amends. Is my

(35:58):
sabotage as well. Now I'm getting these all these nice messages, Oh,
you're such a good person and all these things. But
I want to say to her, if it was really true,
if she really believed these things, the first call she
should make in a group text. I've said this before.
Why not tell rundeln Brook that she lied and had

(36:20):
him attack me and take it back because now it's
still out there taking my children away. So if she's
being honest, that would be the answer. That's what pisses
me off. That's why I do come back, because it's phony.
It's just between us. She won't let Broke know that
she does this. She doesn't want Broke to know because
Broke will come down on her or leader. She doesn't

(36:44):
let other people know that she does. These truthful texts
about me, and they're true, good person, thank you for
your sacrifice, all that stuff. She expresses it only to
me on faith this book, she praises Broke. She tries
to get people to go to her coaching program, to

(37:05):
her her water system, all the MLM, whatever it is,
but people are smelling it. I want She has like
one comment unless it's like something where she looks pretty
and I go your's to do your rock and girl,
you look beautiful and she just loves it. Not earning
a dime, She's probably getting the money from the new boyfriend.
I'm almost guaranteeing that, just like Broke did. Can't guarantee that,

(37:30):
by the way, but most likely here's another thing she
wrote years ago. I've been in a low grade fulk
the last few days, my good old standby tools were
not doing the trick. It culminated into waking up this
morning boarding on full on depression. Here's what happened. She's
in These are all written. I read them before. They're

(37:53):
all written, not many months apart. This is that little
phase she went through of self analyzing and getting there.
She's admitting to depression, but now her posts are the opposite.
It's not depression, it's this and I needed to do this.

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I need to free myself and all this stuff. I
felt anger and discussed towards myself for not getting, forgetting
in this place. How in the world, after all this
inner work, that I end up here. I began to wonder,
what do I do? Check my hormones, book of therapy session,
get on medication, Yeah, try one of them. I was
ready to write off all my spiritual practices as a

(38:34):
total waste of time, crawling to the covers and throw
me a pity party. I want to say, her spiritual
practices are tapping, breathing, meditation, and I'm not gonna knock
any of those. Great. I have an unbelievable breathing exercises
that She's done with me by the way I went
to a high level. It was awesome. But here's the

(38:56):
thing with those only spiritual practices, there's nobody feeding back,
nobody holding you accountable. My tip for the day, get
accountability partners. Get someone that tells you the truth. How
cool would that be? My buddy's back home. Never let
me get away with anything. It's awesome. I love it,
love me, challenge, rip on me. It's fun. It's fun

(39:20):
to go, keep going upper level, she says. And yet
I know it's precisely these moments that are a precursor
to something greater. I knew I was going to have
to priestess my way out of there, so those terminology.
So I got to work deep on sexy work. I
knew I was going to have the priestess come out.

(39:45):
And then came a little miracle. I was shown on
knowing certain terms of my resentment that I was harboring
for someone with stifling my soul. That someone was me.
You've heard the saying, if you point a finger of
the three fingers pointing back, this is great work she's doing.
It's easy to overlook anger and resentment, turn ourselves into
onto ourselves because we're angry at someone and focuses on them. Yes, Lotus,

(40:07):
that's exactly what happened. You focused to the point where
you abandoned the children. You got selfish and went back
to your fears and gave into those fears, and you
were coached by this fraud. And she says, but we
literally are one. So when we harve resentment, I can't.

(40:27):
It cannot affect us to live our full capacity. We
need to be to truly love ourselves and truly love
our solves. We must be the vibration of love. There's
no room for hate with love permeates. Just what will resentment?
Are you willing to drop today? She did this when
she did the speech about going to the engagement. She

(40:48):
lied about the children, about that she wants the engagement
are broken Rundel, She lied then too. It's just amazing
how manny lies can be told. But at least there's
some modicum of truth in there. That she looks like
she's wandering there and then backs off. It's fear. It's fear.

(41:14):
This world is run by fear. Let's be courageous. Let's
step up. If you know her, talk to her, get
her out of this cult, get her out of this.
She is under the spell of this woman, and it's
led to horrible things for these children and for me,

(41:37):
I'm gonna act like it's only about the children. No,
I've been hurt by this. And she says interposed about
that love wins. There's a man who's spreading a rumor
that I'm in a cult of if this is a cult,
and I said, this is love and all this stuff,

(41:58):
how do you know you love these people? We never
lived with them. Of course, if you live with someone,
it's going to be difficult, of course everybody. That's why
people are afraid of their families, because the family is
around for they know what the truth is. And yes,
the truth is scary. Embrace it, go into it, uncover it,
discover more about yourself. That's what I've done. This discovery

(42:24):
is absolutely amazing, and it ain't easy. This is not easy.
The voice is in my head that dominates. Sometimes it's
devastating because I want to talk to her. She does
institute the opposite. She runs. One time we actually went

(42:46):
for a walk and I said, oh, this is going
on right, But then I said something to say, hey,
can we address this, And she's literally run me over
with the car several times, be halfway in the car,
takes off. She just completely goes into this so I

(43:11):
get it. Trauma responds, Okay, but deal with your trauma response.
Go to rehabilitation, Go take care of that broke is
not going to do it. She's not qualified, she's not
a coach. She's a liar, a thief. And this is
what she's doing. She's coaching people and using their vulnerability,
could be metopause, could be midlife crisis, whatever it is,

(43:31):
and she uses that. She becomes a parent, she becomes
their god. She's got a god complex, this woman, and
now so does Lotus. She just follows her same exact posts,
same style, same revealing. But she was honest a few

(43:55):
years ago about these admissions that she made. Wow, fantastic.
That ain't happening anymore. Oh. As a matter of fact,
their lawyer said to me, because I said, look, she's
got to straighten some of this out. She's telling my
other kids these terrible things now obviously threatens me with them.

(44:16):
This guy says, your family will help me with this.
This stranger says to me, really, what are you doing there, Lotis?
Why would you do that? Why would you go to
these strangers instead of the person who committed love to you,
to this family, brought children into the world, made love
so that we would bring them into the world. Ask

(44:36):
God for them and hear these God children. And you're
willing to just throw it all away for the illusion
of I don't know what to be dominated sexually or
never asked me for that to be to be successful
in business, I'm up for that too. Never show me

(44:59):
a business plan, by the way, never asked her all
the time, she avoided it. And that's the thing is
some families. They the reason they I believe that they're
a part in a strange which I don't believe in
talk it out, it's because they know that they can't
fool you. That's the thing. Can't be fooled. If you're

(45:23):
in the family, you're experiencing it all the time. And
that's what happened here, is what happened with a number
of my relationships. They know if it's family, they know that.
I know. I think my sister's made up things about me. Now,
she's so far deep, cannot go back no matter how

(45:45):
many times they let's do whatever it is, talk it out,
can't do it. She knows that I know she's lying
about those things, and she's so deep in. Same with
my ex wife before, so deep in they can't admit
it too much. Ego, but it ain't love. Love does win.

(46:08):
If you surrender to love, that's always gonna win. That's
what I have with these two beautiful children and a
number of people in my life. The other last thing
I want to leave you with, and then we'll have
other episodes where we have guests and things and deal
with cults. I might have mentioned this before, but I'll

(46:31):
say it again. I had in a strange relationship with
my mom. I really believed that I was clean and
I did all I could, but she was just completely detached.
Whatever it was. I really did believe that it was
the end. If she'd died, I said, I could go
to a funeral with no problem. It's okay. We didn't
speak for years. She was doing things and I'm not

(46:53):
going to list those things, but there are things. Just
trust me when I tell you them. If I told
you them, you will go, oh, it's not a good mother.
But it's not about that. It's about me and my
relationship and my resentments and dealing with those resentments because
those are killers me and my unreasonable expectations. So another

(47:19):
tip again, my producer told me, give some tips self,
evaluate and figure out those unreasonable, unreasonable expectations you're putting
on to someone. She could never live up to those things.
And I would go to people it's like a mother,
and people, no, that's not like a mother. You need
to draw boundaries all this kind of stuff. No, no, no,

(47:42):
one day. I'm not going to tell this story because
I think I told it before, But just assume that
I had a made or made your major transformation that
took place. You just don't know what the script is
going to be from Big G and with a couple

(48:03):
of stories to talk about this, So all right, I'll
tell the story. My mom was coming out to La again.
She was gonna go be with the X before that
who was attacking me, and she sort of like took
her side, almost same with my sister. Had so much

(48:24):
betrayal my life. I gotta tell you, it sucks, just sucks.
Hate it the betrayal that goes on. And I'm like
the opposite. I want to have family. That's been my
goal my whole life since my dad left when I
was born. I want family. That's my thing. I want
family and I find it. You know, there's there's a

(48:46):
rejection that takes place, say rejections God's protection. I have
to always figure that out. How might being protected here
with the tax from different people. I guess, well, I
guess with the ex wife, that's the protection is you
need to be clear, clear of yourself A that that's bad.

(49:06):
It's no good for anybody. A lot of people get
the shrapnel from those bombs. So I had all these
build up this story about my mom and I said, oh,
she never says I love you. And I remember it
was a surprise party for me, put on by the
way by Lotus, and I baled my eyes out. All
these people that loved me, and my mom had just

(49:29):
hung up on me. She had called me by accident.
It was just really like, oh my god, it just
hit me like a ton of bricks, and I bald
in front of these people. I was so embarrassed. But
other people are like, oh, it was beautiful. But anyway,
I said, and Lotus threw that party for me, by
the way, I had thrown a couple for her and
were really meaningful. We just had a really cool relationship.
A lot of fun and things like that and inspired actions,

(49:56):
and she was and then Lotus is so always so sweet.
You know, she said, your mom's coming out. She wants
to see us. And I was like, oh, fine, Roop,
come see us. An afterthought, she's gonna go see the
other one, you know, and she's only sent presents to them.
It's like really seemed like a tacky bulk anyway, And
I'm going through my old ceds in the garage, and

(50:19):
I had a radio show. My mom had a piece
on the radio show called what's bugging barb old label,
What's about? I started listening to them. I said, come
on in here, listen. Your nana funny. Even if kids
were laughing, She's so funny. Everything bugs her. I'll tell
you what's bugging me today. Don't get mad at me feminists,
but female train engineers. I won't get on the train.

(50:41):
I mean, just all these things she doesn't. She's got
this cadence. It's funny. And it hit me like a
ton of bricks. Radical acceptance. That was the word. Two words.
It came to me. Radical accepts, accept her for who
she is, radically, without pause, without blame, without anything except

(51:07):
for absolute, total God inspired acceptance and that was it.
Ja Saul switched right there. I said, oh my god,
I'm a comedian for a very long time. That's who
gave me my sense of humor. I've had an unbelievable career.
You can see right now, you can see the Emmy's

(51:29):
back there as Comedy of American Comedy Awards. Is my prize.
Possession of my best trophy is it's right here next
to me all the time. The horses Ass Award at
my ex wife's family reunion. The other one. I'm proud
of that trophy. Horses Ass. She I was gonna say

(51:52):
she led to She didn't lead to me being horses ass,
but anyway, and I just got in this. She came
out and we ended up hanging out together, laughing. She's
making fun of her husband, and which is who she is.
We love to bust agots, you know. I mean, it's
just incredible. Ended up spending an extra day and I

(52:14):
drove her to the airport and it was just an
immediate healing. And she could say you're the worst son
in the world and would not have any effect on
me zero. She can say all the same things. It
doesn't matter, but it doesn't matter anymore, does not matter.
That's her stuff and whatever she wants to do, she's
gonna be her. She's not gonna change. But then again,

(52:35):
she has changed because I changed first. That's what I
would implore you to do. Change the energy first, be
more in acceptance. Don't have a list. Throw away the list.
She's not going to be the mom that you think.
She's a different mom. She's this mom and this is

(52:57):
one funny mom. And I just went back there for
a visit it and I was gonna stay one day.
She gets I core ring girl, showing yet I have
to do things my way. I don't want you here.
And I used to think that was an insult, but
all it is is she's saying I can't do it
because I'm so set in my ways. But I wasn't
an acceptance. Oh, she won't ever let me. Then I

(53:19):
have to stay at a hotel and all this want
to go back to Philadelphia. That's what ah, and now
my acceptance and my new energy. I stayed nine days.
She tried to kick me out almost every day, but
it was like it was a fun kicking out. I
leave the toilet seat open, and then she would talk
to people in front of me. He leaves the Nicolette,

(53:40):
he leaves the toilet seat up, and he's he's a mess,
and oh my god, and I just laugh. It's okay,
it's okay. Otherwise I would assume she's critical and all
this kind of stuff and condemns me. It's okay. And
it was so touching. She calls me last week it's

(54:02):
still I can't. I'm still cleaning up after you d d.
This is You're not gonna stay here again, you know.
At the same time, she says, I had a little depression.
You lifted me out of my depression. Craig, whow. It's beautiful,

(54:27):
my mom telling me that person who I always thought
was cut off it is in her own way. We
it's just so much fun. We laughed. My dad passed
away a year ago and we've spread his ashes at
this favorite place. And even the walk there was hilarious
because she's complaining the whole time. And I videoed it

(54:48):
and I posted it and you can see it. It's
her with her cadence gone are we there yet? Oh
my god, She's just so funny and laughing. We laughed
and laughed and laughed. She came to my part with
my friends, look her at the dinner, took her to
a play. I mean, just such a wonderful time. Introduced
there's some celebrity friends of mine happened to be there,

(55:10):
and she just had such a wonderful Even though she's
a noy, doesn't want me to stay there again, It's okay,
by the way, I won't stay there again. That was
a beautiful moment in my life. And I'll just freeze
those nine days. Those were wonderful days that it all
happened from years ago when I got into radical acceptance

(55:31):
of who she truly is. The last thing I'll say
is until I do more episodes with guests and things
I think, I don't know. The script is written by
some ethereal divine source that I know, and this one

(55:52):
last story I will tell you about how that is
the case. And by the way, I have faith that
this is this script is being written. That she can
make a comeback, not to the marriage, but to her lotus,
can come back to being a kind, genuine, beautiful person.

(56:12):
She can do things for the children instead of herself.
She'll get out of selfishness and greed and be of
service she'll return to those things. Is what I have
to have faith on. Nothing to do with the marriage,
but the respect level of showing these children you can
be a part and have respect from one another. She

(56:35):
should not be attacking me. She should not be having
me threatened. She knows this deep down, She knows it.
She knows not to fear me. She wouldn't have me
come over and make love to her when we were divorced.
She knows we've been in each other's company a bunch
of times. And then she retreats and goes back to

(56:56):
her craziness. She's scared. She's scared to leave the cult.
She's scared to say anything against this woman who has
destroyed a family. If that woman was listening, if Broke
was listening, she wouldn't think so. She would think, all
he's a victim. She's all these all this pontificating, and

(57:17):
she does all to justify, rationalize some evil stuff. These
kids will tell her if they ever speak to her,
if she ever had the courage to speak to these kids.
I had them text her. Oh my god. She texts
them back. Your father's doing this to you, and you

(57:39):
know he shouldn't do this, and you know they're trying
to express their feelings to her. She can't take it.
She can't take it when anybody goes against her. Just
look at the posts. She eracism. If somebody goes against her,
that's what a chicken shit she is. I'm tired of
the cowards, and I'm to be brave and tell the truth.

(58:02):
The kids will follow that. Some people won't. They'll be
offended and run away. But here's the script that took
place that I'll conclude with one of the other miracles
in my life. That call for my mom was pretty
much a miracle. If anybody read even my old book,
it talks about my mom and how difficult it was.
And I always had a rough time with her because

(58:23):
than when I was kidnapped by the pedophile, she told
me to put it away. By the way she ended
up apologizing sweet was that I'm so sorry. I said, Mom,
don't worry about it. She was sorry because she didn't
do anything about it and take them to court or
anything like that. I said, well, to tell you the truth,
the problem was that I had was you made me
keep it a secret. And then I tried to explain

(58:44):
it to her how that is really where the poison
takes place. So in fourth grade, I was tortured. I've
had a lot of life of hurt and pain and
people torturing and being mean, bullying, and I don't like
the word bullying, but yeah, we had moved again, and
we didn't know where we're going to live. Most of

(59:06):
the time. My mom didn't make enough money to keep us,
but she did the best she could, and she got
us in this nice neighborhood, a rental place. We're always renting,
you know, never owned, because my mom had a secretary
and then legal assistance and all that, you know, just
with so how are they any clothes? And I was
fourth grade, I sew on my pants. I learned how

(59:29):
to sew, you know, learn how to do things very early,
very worldly early, and fix her early early on. It
just led me through life. Of course, the rich kids,
I always called them the rich kids there humiliated me
in front of the class. I was just not liked.
I was just shunned, and I was really tiny. I

(59:50):
was beaten up, like physically beaten up, and just humiliated
on a daily basis. I'm not a daily bib a lot.
I had one friend, he had a divorced family too,
but not many people did. They these wealthy or rich
families that were together. Not us, you know, fractured family,
no dad, nobody protecting me, and my mom's at work.
There was no protection. I remember one time they came

(01:00:12):
into my house to beat me up. I mean really
so fourth grade missus stouts class. One day I told
a story. I hope this isn't a repeat, but anyway,
I know it's going to lead to something that is
not a repeat. But anyway, she said, and I made
people laugh. It was magical. I couldn't believe it. I
was told a story about my mom beating me actually

(01:00:34):
from breaking this glass thing and everything I said, and
then I started exaggerating, Oh yeah, she beat me someone.
So I was a pinionta. There was candy flying on
my mother. Ah, they're all evident people that hated me.
Oh suddenly there was this fanciful, like, this unbelievable thing
was happening where they were with me, connected with me,
This whole beautiful air that we were now in, resentment free,

(01:01:00):
just so powerful. Laughter is so powerful, It's what I
really got it. That day, it all went to a
whole other direction. Oh my god, this is magical, incredible.
I looked, I could still tell you the faces, what
the how they just changed towards me from telling the truth,

(01:01:20):
telling a story, the story of violence and all. It
was like a forbidden story. That's what a lot of
comedians do. And the next day she says, he's not
going to do this in my class again. And she
tied my hands behind my back with blue yarn hog
tied behind my back like a hostage. She put me

(01:01:41):
in a supply closet and she because you sit on
that box and do not get off that box all day.
And I did. I'm defying. I kept looking at her
thighs coming through the vent. I jump back on. You
better be there. She let me eat and that was it.
Then back to the hands, my wrists bound behind my
Back's just he's not going to do this. The opposite happened.

(01:02:05):
Is my first first voice of big G, God, source, light, energy, whatever.
It was a voice just dominant. Yes, you are going
to do this. You will never stop doing this. You
keep telling truth, telling stories, telling making people laugh, inspiring

(01:02:26):
but whatever it is. Obviously a little kid's not talking
like that, But this voice inside me says, no, keep
going and I did. I was the class clown, and
I got tortured for it by teachers. I mean literally
tortured with the holding books out and being beaten by
teachers too. Nothing stopped me to the point where I

(01:02:48):
made a career out of it since high school, literally
put myself through college and then some. It's led to everything.
It's just been the most unbelievable life. And behind me,
if you are watching, there's posters of specials I've done,
and there's me with Dave Chappelle at his house and
all this. I mean, I've just had the most dream
life from this laughter, bringing laughter to people. It's pretty incredible.

(01:03:18):
And it's led to money too, money that now wives steal.
So it's crazy. I wonder what the karma is, and
I do know some of the karmas. I did some
really bad things when I was younger. I was a
drunk and a drug addict, and I just destroy people's property,
rich people and stuff like that. I understand some of

(01:03:38):
these Karmack equations, some of the Karmack equation of not
being good to women and other women from my past.
Some I'm really tight with. There's two ex'es that are
just unbelievable friends to this day, I mean decades later,
like really really close friends. One of them's Aunt Jeanie
to my kids. One another one's Aunt Mary Fran. I mean,
these are people that I've almost married or whatever dated

(01:04:03):
and that went really well and still goes really well.
See me for who I am, broke up for other
reasons whatever. It is just incredible. These relationships I have
from childhood television show with my friend from third grade,
so at Amazon wolf Pack by the way, with c Okay.
Just these unbelievable things have happened specials on television and

(01:04:27):
movies and guest star roles and I's to watch television.
I wanted to be Hollywood Squares, and I wanted paul
In to marry my mother and the Center Square Uncle
Arthur and Bewitched. I want it, And then I ended
up on Hollywood Square seventy five episodes, although nobody knows
who I am, so it was always Creakshoemaker to block.
My vision was that paul Inn would adopt be marry
my mother. We'd be the first father and son team

(01:04:49):
one of Hollywood Squares. I'd like Craig and paul In
for the win, please, take it son, it's a sports question.
But there I was in Hollywood's for seventy five episodes,
even if it was only to block. All of these
things happened because of laughter. All of these things happened
because I kept finding where the laughter was, where the

(01:05:10):
positive was. My kids when they speak to me, the
two older ones don't talk to me much, or it's
just it's painful again. But the one when we are
getting along, we laugh together. He calls me opto for optimistic.
I'm an optimistic guy. I encourage you to all be optimistic.
I don't accept doctor's opinions most of the time, and

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I'm not sick. I don't get sick because I believe
in these powers, these healing powers of laughter that exist
in all of us. So I kept embarked on this
career that's made probably a trillion laughs. I don't know,
been in a seventy five thousand people twice. I performed

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for Broadway. Ended up singing with Kenny Loggins on Broadway
after I was opening for him. When the guys got sick,
I replaced the singer. It's unbelievable life, all from comedy,
all from laughter. There's a difference By the way, between
comedy and laughter, big difference. But anyway, laughter is just

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so important and it's just I'm still what's funny is
the guy, the one guy that tortured me. My sixth
grade teacher came to my show a few weeks ago
outside of Philadelphia and Sellersville, this old theater, and at
this moment on stage was just unbelievable. It's just like, whoa,
this is true bliss, like Dirvana the voices in my

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head with about Lotus and all this is going on
and still attacking and still doing this stuff and taking
money and all that lying and live cheat steel, none
of it was going on. It was just in this
pocket of appsence. There was no agenda, no fear, no desire,
no results. I just was in this beautiful space space

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two hour long show standing ovation connected. And one of
the people in the audience was my sixth grade teacher
who made me do dictionary pages, mister Lennon, and he
made me do this thing where I held my books out,
you know, and he pile more books on top. Him
and mister Trickel did in fifth grade. He did. It's
just great. Missus Stout did the thing with it every year.
I got tortured because I was a devilish kid, but

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it all ended up to be this beautiful career. I'm
not at the top anymore. It's okay. This certainly won't
lead delicately Daddy's success either. But I do it everything
for a different reason now. And here's the final conclusion
to tell you one of the reasons I do it.
I was speaking at a church about laughter heels. I
do a lot of speaking now about the alchemy of

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laughter and the power of it. And uh, there's this
church nearby. My friend was running this Christian men's group.
He says, why don't you come speak? Worst introduction ever,
by the way, he says, what's the word not saved?
Because our next my guest today has not been saved

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or whatever the word for it is. And I was like, well,
there's a great introduction. These people, you know, like here's
the heathen. I got them to turn around laughing. And
I have to understand that it really is truly a
great spirit that exists inside of us. It's very spiritual.
Trying to build a bridge from the woo woo to

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the ha Comedians are cynical. People are to woo woo
it's meet in the middle, have a lot of fun,
even though you're on this beautiful, enlightened path. That's the
way to get there. Light it up. Laughter. So I
meet the minister comes up to me. I always wanted
to meet you, and then he introduces me backstage to

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his daughter. She said, is it really Craig Shoemaker. This
is really Craig. She maker. I have a number of
fans through the years. It's awesome, it's pretty cool. But
this was like upper level. And he goes up and
he speaks, and I'm gonna paraphrase the speech, but he
said basically, he's up like an hour later after we
all hung out in the back and they prayed for me.
It's going through the pain. This a couple of years
ago with my you know, the whole disarray and everything,

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with this whole divorce and just this bomb that went off.
Oh my god, and they prayed him. I just felt fantastic.
Then he speaks, wonderful speaker, incredible. Thirty years ago, he's
studying to be a pastor. He's got this best friend
who's a wife and three kids. He kind of wants
what he has and he's teaching me how to be
a Christian. He's got a fiancee. She gets pregnant. He says,
I'm going to introduce you to my parents. Goes to

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the parents house. They said, get out of this house.
We disown you unless you abort that child. He says,
I can't do that. He said, well, then get out.
We disown you. So now he's disowned by his parents.
She then takes her ring, puts it on the dashboard,
and she says, I can't marry you. It's not his child.
It's his best friend's child. The guy's teaching him Christianity.

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The white guy with a wife and three kids. That's
whose kid. It is, So obviously you can understand how
distraught he is, to the point of suicide. He wants
to he's going to kill himself. And I get it.
He's now lost. His parents have disowned him, the fiance
has betrayed him. He's been betrayed by his best friend.
And by the way, it's a theme of what I'm

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talking about here, and this whole thing is this cult
has caused she did it too, but cause my ex
wife to betray on a huge level. I still deal
with betrayal. Was betrayed by the guy that kidnapp me.
Been betrayed by a number of people, people that have
been good to people that have gotten jobs for whatever

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it is. You know, it's my lot in life to
figure these things out and just keep my vibration high,
keep on working on myself to encourage everybody to do that.
So he says he's going to kill himself. He's going
to drive off this cliff to the left, the place
that he had driven a number of times, you know,
is exactly how he's going to do. He's going to
drive off the cliff to the left, and he makes

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the right because a miracle occurred. He doesn't really tell
us what the miracle is. That night, I'm feeling really
really ethereal and upper level and my friend Kenny Loggins,
who I had toured with when I was a kid,
you know, opening for him and sang with him on Broadway.
Blah blah blah. Kenny's on stage doing his last concert

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ever with Loggins and Messina his whole team. He's literally
doing a song called peace of Mind, Piece of Mine.
I mean, it was so beautiful outdoors and I'm sitting
there just gone. He shouted me out during the show.
It's like really cool with my friend Joe, just feeling

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the beauty of nature and the stars and this music
and my friend and I just heard this story from
this guy and I had just spoken at this church
and just really feeling it. And then I get a
text in the middle of the song, I shouldn't pick

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up my phone in the middle of the song. Piece
of mine. Everybody's some piece of mind. It's beautiful, and
it text says, the reason I drive off the cliff
is someone had just handed me a CD from a
comedian named Craig Shoemaker. Laughed till I cried, life is
worth living. You're my friend forever. You saved my life.

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And that was when I went back to fourth grade.
That's what I really said to myself. That voice came again.
I scripted this, big G. I scripted this. This is
your script. So is this podcast. I don't know what's

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going to unfold, what's in the plan anymore. I let go.
I just brought this truth, which is what comedy is.
People are offended by it because we tell the truth
that you don't want to hear. We're pulling the curtain
on the wizard back there. I pulled the curtain she's

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a wizard. Broke and Lotus they're wizards. They want you
to believe one thing and it's not true. They want
you to believe in Stay in these walled cities, Wizard
of Oz. Stay in this city. I will control you.
I will tell you what you can have, all you have,
all of this. It's meaningless. It's not there. Like they

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say in Wizard of Oz, home is where the heart is.
Lotus broke up our home, but we still have our heart.
Me and the children still are majorly bonded with our
hearts and love. I love them with everything I have.
I love my other children as well, and I'll love

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me back today. I don't know what the script is.
I do know that this podcast was a free flow.
It's very present in me. I feel very healed because

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I got it out. It's cathartic, it's inspired, even creative.
It's not my greatest creation, certainly wasn't making a laugh,
But I think, you know, if the truth sets us free,

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I feel free. So we'll see what happens if I
do another one or a bunch of them, We'll see
what the response is. We'll see what your response is.
If there's a call for it, then I'll do it.
I have another podcast where I definitely have interviews. It's
all about the turnaround of life, of which we all
have turnarounds, and I love doing that podcast. It doesn't

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get the numbers. I don't make any money, but the
money will follow. The money will follow. Who knows. It
might make a documentary out of this, but man, you
don't make any money with documentaries. What am I talking about?
Maybe a feature film. Definitely has a crazy life that
a really really eclectic, magnificent pope, free of life, of

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every adventure imaginable. I wish that for everybody. I wish
that you have truth that unfolds. I am available for coaching. Hey,
maybe it's not coming with a podcast. Maybe people want
me as a coach. You should, good coach. I really

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liked the program I came up with. Actually I didn't
come up with it, wrote it with the Big G
as ever as all the good stuff has written all right, anyway,
I was gonna say I love you all, and I
guess I do. I just love you all. I love
you for listening and staying for all of these episodes.
I really do. Sincerely, I just thank you. I'm so grateful.

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I obviously think to say, without you, I'm your waiter.
And as my mom says, your father can never say
goodbye either, Can I all right by bye?