Yumeik Harmon joins My Worthless 2cents Table Talk

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Love once more again.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
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put on your head, give oh my worthless two cents
is about to put something in your.

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Speaker 1 (01:05):
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Speaker 4 (01:11):
Look at her boy, We about to do this thing,
old country boy.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
It is Wednesday. It is Wednesday. And as they say,
do you know what time it is?

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Tell me?

Speaker 5 (01:21):
Do you know?

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Ship the cock? Ugh thump, it's time. It is time.
It is time. It is time for another episode of
my work for Lis too. Since they talk and look
at here tonight tonight, I have a wonderful, wonderful guest.

(01:43):
I have a wonderful guest who is gracing this platform.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
This is a you know, I'm gonna tell you, Ms Hormes.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
I don't give no introductions, and the reason is is
because I could never do you justice. I could never
do anyone that's sitting next to me, across from me justice.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
So I don't do no introductions, but I just tell
you what I know.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
I know that this woman right here is incredible, her story,
her journey incredible, from where she's come from to where
she's at incredible, to where she's gone incredible. I am
honored to have her here. I am so very honored
to have her come tonight. Before I bring her and

(02:28):
let her come in up, as old country folks say,
and she comes in our own way. Before she comes
in our own way, old country boy has to do
what I'm called to do. And that's one thing that
I am called to do that I will do, and
that is this right here.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
I'm gonna take.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
This old white hat right I might look at the
shine on the head, don't get upset, don't get mad
clothes yet.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
And my daughter, I'm gonna tell y'all that before I
say that.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
My daughter, my executive producer, we was on the phone
and we were saying prayers and we were saying our prayers.
She was saying them and she looked at him. When
I got done, she said, but your eyes wasn't closed.
I said, you know, my eyes wasn't closed, because if
you you had to be looking at me for you
to know my eyes wouldn't close.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
My grandson did that to me one night. We was
praying and he said, granted, walking, your eyes wasn't closed.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
I said, look you yeah, I said, because yours wasn't.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
That's why, because you man, George old me. You're looking
at me.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
But look, I'm gonna take this moment. I'm gonna take
this what I was called to do. Did Heavenly Father,
thank you for this day, Thank you for your grace,
thank you for your mercy.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Father God.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
I asked you to continue to watch over protect and God,
each and every one of us, A lot of us
are straight away followed God. But I know that you
stand there just waiting for us to come back. You stand,
you stand at the door, and you knock. You stand
and you knock, and it up to us to make
the choice whether the open that door and let you in.
That's on us, that's our choice. Father God, I ask

(04:06):
that you continue, continue to bless each and everyone. Father God,
I send prayers once more again out to the families
who are going through who are struggling, the families of
the flood, the families who are going through the disease, sickness.
I ask prayers for those that are in the hospital,
in jail houses. Father God, I'm not the one. I'm
not the one to say, will God go over there.

(04:29):
The reason I ain't gonna ask you to go over there,
because what they don't know is you are already.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
You're already there.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
What they have to do is just receive you there,
Father God, you are all ready there. Father God, Touch
our hearts, Touch our hearts, touch our hearts, touch our hearts,
touch our hearts. Father God, I don't ask for prayers
for different things, And what I ask for is three things. Lord,
I only ask for three things. Wisdom, strength, and understands it.

(04:58):
That's all I ask for anybody, Wisdom, strength and understand
If you ask me what, Coustort boy, can you pray
for me? I pray for wisdom, strength and understanding, Father God,
because I'm not finna pray for.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Something that ain't in your will.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Oh, I'm never gonna pray or ask for something that
is not in your will. But I know wisdom, strength
and understanding that's all in your will.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
And that's what I pray for each and everyone.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Father God made the seeds that are sown laying up
on the ground that you intend them to this night,
this night, Father God, I thank you.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
I thank you for the guests that's coming. Father God, lead.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Her, guide her, open her heart, open her mouth to
speak what you want her to speak, to be who
you want her to be.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I ask these prayers.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
I ask these prayers, and your Son Jesus name a man,
a man and a man. They hear, y'all, it's that time.
It's that time. It's comfort boy time. It's comfort boy time.
Coustort boy. Look here, I'm gonna tell you country boy
and went to his favorite place. And when you get
my age, this place you go, yo, Lubis okay, Because
I couldn't make it over the red so I stopped

(06:07):
by Lubis uh, you know they have they have singing discounts.
I'm a singer now, so I get a discount. But
look here, man, we're about to have a wonderful time.
So the next voice that y'all hear tonight, coming in
her own way, coming in her own way, however she

(06:29):
sees fit, it's Miss Harmon. So I told them over there,
I'm for to tear y'all over here. I need for
y'all to do one thing. One thing. Sit back, relax,
put on your head, giar ah.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Miss Harmon.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Is about to put something in your ear.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
Thank you, thank you, thank you. So, like I said,
I'm your Miika Hormon. I'll be sixty next month. I'm
a domestic battle survivor and I'm also an advocate. I
left Louisiana to come here to start over. I'll be

(07:19):
honest with you. I left Louisiana running because I did
something I knew I was gonna go to jail for
the rest of my life. I hit him with my
cast So I'm like, I better get up on out
of here. But like you were saying that, we can't
judge each other because before Ms. Hormon got on the

(07:42):
walk that she's on right now to help people. Miss
Hormon was a be cocaine dealer. Miss Harmon did her thing,
you know, so we all have things that I will
pass that I'm not afraid. I'm not ashamed of it
because I did it and I learned from it. See,

(08:03):
if you didn't learn from something, then it wasn't worth
going to it. Like my parents would say that that
was a lesson that you bought up by yourself. Yes,
and you know, domestic violence I'm gonna get right into
it has no age, no color, no discrimination whatsoever. And
I've been doing this for eight years. Strong. God put

(08:27):
it on my heart. It's oh God, Jeremiah twenty ninety eleven.
I kept seeing that everywhere I was go and I
just wanted to know what it meant. And with much
prayer and just praying and listen to God, is he
allowed me to go through what I went through in

(08:49):
order to be here today to help someone else?

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (08:54):
And that has truly taught me a lot because with
the organization, and as you said, it's not my organization,
God has just allowed me to run it for him
because He sends it in a direction and needs to go.
Is First of all, I'm grassroots. I am a nonprofit,
but I refuse to get any type of government assistance

(09:18):
because I'm not going to allow the government to tell
me help how to help God's people. I'm just not
gonna do it. And oh God, we have a rescue team,
you know, we go out and rescue ladies. We provide
free cell phones. I pay the first six months of
the bill to help them get on their feet, laptops, clothing,

(09:41):
whatever they need there. It feels good to help someone. Yes,
I'm a servant and will forever be a servant. And
mister Donnie, I I do it for God's glory. I'm

(10:02):
not gonna do it for man's glory. So I tell
people all the time, you're not gonna You're not gonna
see me into big things and all that, because I
can't do that because then I'm not being what I
have been mandated to do right right. So I'm gonna
walk this walk by myself. If I have to walk

(10:24):
this walk by myself. Yes, And I provide a boat
ride every year. A boat is donated to me. Wow,
And we leave from South Shore Harbor Yacht Club and
I bring twenty five to thirty survivors on deck and
then we have speakers from all over. Of course security

(10:48):
be out there, and we just sail around the bay
for like three hours. And it's called a pouring into
you where we can actually pour into each each other
learn how to love each other in unity. Because domestic
violence happens different ways. My story might be totally different

(11:14):
from someone else's story, but it's still domestic violence. And
I've seen so much of it going on lately, and
I ask the question do we matter? And the reason
I ask that question is do we matter? Is I
can live in this community versus someone living in River Oaks.

(11:39):
That person in River Oak is gonna get more help
quicker response than I'm gonna get. And I'm truthful, I'm wrong.
I'm not gonna sugarcoat anything. Black women don't get as
much help because there's a lot of resources out there,

(12:02):
but nobody tell us. Nobody tell us that, And that's
what I strive on, and I don't I don't like
to go into what I went through. I'm gonna go
into how I got out of it. Yes, and that's
by the grace of God, that's how I got out
of it, you know, relying on God was my my

(12:29):
only chance of surviving, my only chance of surviving. And
we have to understand that if we pray and seek God,
he's gonna give us that ultimate direction. He's gonna give
you the ultimate resources that you need to get where

(12:50):
you need to be.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yes, And.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
Like, right now, I'm working on this big project. This
young lady, his barfriend killed her with her grandfather's gun.
And his mother is a psychologist. She's seen all these
things going on, she was even present when some of

(13:16):
them happened. And now she's trying to get joint custody
of the little three year old. And so I'm fighting
hard with this this mother from upstate, on getting the
legal aspect done to where we can stop this other
grandmother from even being in the kid's life. Because if

(13:40):
you wasn't there to stop your son when he was
doing this, how are you gonna protect your granddaughter? How
Because after your son killed this young lady turned the
gun on himself, wow, with her grandfather's gun. It makes

(14:02):
you think about some things, huh. It truly makes you
think about some things. For a mother to sit there
and watch your son put a pillow over his girlfriend's
face while he's punching her. He's beating her, and you
don't do anything about it. A lot of this is

(14:23):
going on that we feel that if it's not our problem,
we don't want to get involved. It's very simple to
make a phone call. If you don't want to say
your name, don't save your name, make the phone call.
You could save someone's life. But see me, I'm gonna

(14:44):
get involved in it because I survived, but a family
member she didn't survive. Her death was maybe five six
years ago, and it made it on seeing in everywhere
in Baton Rouge when he shot a point blanket my
head and threw her body on Essence Freeway and he

(15:05):
died about suicide of the police. He jumped out of
the vehicle and drew his weapon.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
Yes, And she left two young boys behind. And mister Lewis,
I have asked. I have made phone calls. I have
made dozens of phone calls, send emails out too, and
I'm be honest to our elected officials, to everyone that

(15:36):
I can think about that would be willing to help
get something started where if a lady needs of a
place to stay at night, right, they can go there
and then let us transport her the next day, but
it falls on death ears. And I've come to realize

(15:57):
that if I'm not in that social circle, if my
bank accop, I'm gonna be honest, don't look like theirs.
If I don't drive a day drive where they were,
then I'm I'm invisible. You can't see me, and that's
not what it's about. You can't see me. Why you

(16:20):
can't see me? There is no one better than the
next person that's going through this. Domestic violence is domestic violence,
no matter how you look at it. Right before I
got on with you, I'm working right now. I have
a young lady in Dallas, which I'm trying to wrap

(16:41):
around my head, and I really it's not making any sense.
She was in a three hour standoff in Dallas. The
police got her and her one year old daughter out,
But you're gonna tell her, well, since y'all didn't get hurt,
go ahead and leave, and when you're ready to go
get your clothes, we'll come back with you. That's not

(17:02):
how that works, right, That's so you know, I'm here
in Houston, you have this woman would on one year
old and dadis They didn't bring it to any shelter.
They didn't know nothing, no, nothing, So I'm not understanding it.
Do her life matter? Does it really matter? You know?

(17:27):
We offer free self defense, we offer free gun training,
we offer all this, provide this, but we still have
to have something in place whether that person can go. Yes,
I have women that I work with that they go
to different organizations here in Houston, big organizations that they

(17:54):
were told that beds are full. So go sleep in
front of the police station in your called. That's your
safest place. Wow, yes, sir, that's your safest place. M Yeah,
I'm not understanding that. I'm true not understanding that. And
I'm committed to this right and I'm gonna continue doing this,

(18:20):
and I'm honored to be able to do Guard's work. Yes,
I'm faith based, so I would work with anyone. But
if you would not work with me because I'm faith based,
I don't have a problem with that, right, I don't.
I don't work with anybody that's willing to come out

(18:44):
and help, but you have to have a camera with you.
I'm not gonna do that. A person's integrity is already down.
Why should we bring more down? Who wants to have
their picture taken off? You're giving me a blanket or
you're giving me something to eat. It doesn't work that way.
And I know I can't do it by myself, but

(19:09):
I'm gonna try to do it by myself. If I
can only do it, I'm good. Wow. Yeah, And it's

(19:30):
just that I'm honored to do what I do. I
God see, I'm not accustomed to talking about what I do.
I'm speechless right now because there's so much that we

(19:51):
do that I can't talk.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
About right right now. I understand that, I understand that
I do want to. You know, when you just said
that about.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
You go.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
And the places are full, and they say, go and
sleep in your car in front of the police station.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
I just when you said that, what my thought was
so many people would say, I might as well just.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
Go back to where I was at, and and that's
what they do.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
If I don't have anywhere to go, I may as
well just stay where I'm at. I may as well
just endure this.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Do you know?

Speaker 1 (20:36):
That's that's.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
I can't even wrap my mind and mind around how
disheartening that is to to find your way out. But
then when you find your way out, other folks are
pushing you back in.

Speaker 5 (20:59):
And it is more hard to believe. It's when a
case worker that's working for these big organizations tells a
lady that, and then I get the phone call from
another organization and the lady that runs the organization is

(21:22):
telling me this. I'm like, really, wow, Wow, I've taken
ladies in my home. I got a phone call. I'll
give you an example. Mister Lewis got a phone call
one night at two o'clock in the morning from a

(21:44):
lady that works at an organization asking me if I
would go to the bus station and pick up a
young lady that just came in from Tennessee with a
seven day baby, a seven day old baby. I took
that young lady in and she stayed with me for
six months because the organization stated they didn't have a ba.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Y h.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
And that's why women women's they go back. I'd rather
go back and be abused and misuse. But I still
have a roof over.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
My head, especially if you have a town.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
I mean, yeah, and there's wow, like you say, wow,
it's but nobody wants to talk about that. Nobody wants
to talk about that. That's hardcore facts. I look at
this every day and now it's even present to where

(22:41):
a police officer lot lost a life in Tennessee. Mm
hmm through domestic violence. Wow.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
And a lot of women stay, mister Lewis is because
they don't have funds, they don't have family, and they
just stay there and take it and take it. And
we as women have to really look past that because

(23:13):
if we continue staying there and taking it, our daughters
are grown to grow up and say, well, Mama stayed
there and took it, so I need to do that.
My son's gonna grow up beating someone because he's seen
mama stay while daddy beat the hell out of mama.

(23:33):
It's a lot of moving parts to this. And if
we could get unity, Yes, we can get unity. And
can you imagine what could be done if you have
several organizations that's doing the same thing. I may not

(23:54):
have something that the other organization can provide. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
And I'm gonna tell you something right now. It's I
was talking to someone because I do a go around
and I go to different churches and talking because how

(24:16):
can a pastor counsel you on domestic violence if he's
never been there, He doesn't have anyone in the church
to help you. Praying is good, don't get me wrong,
But don't tell me to stay there and pray come

(24:36):
while I'm still being bee.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
Can you imagine how many did it? Or behind a
pool pit and how many castes are sitting in the pep? Yeah? Yeah,
And it's going on, guys. And I've I've been through
things I've been through, and sometime I just I wanted

(25:02):
to give up because it was to me I really
couldn't understand at first. While I stayed because I'm the
only girl. With my daddy and all my brothers, they
never knew what I was going through. Wow, I never
told him because the type of daddy that I had,

(25:24):
I knew what he would have done and my brothers
would have done. So I chose to leave that situation
because of the love for my family. I didn't want
to see my daddy in jail to rest this life,
or my brothers in jail the rest of their life
for something that I could get out of. That's one

(25:48):
thing we have to learn as women. We can get
out of it. Another thing that we have to learn
as women is we have to keep our mouth quiet
sometimes as if something is going on and we feel
were entitled to that last word, you're just throwing fuel
on a fire and instead of getting bigger and bigger.

(26:10):
So sometimes we have to sit back and say, you
know what, I'm gonna just be quiet. I'm gonna be quiet,
and I'm gonna think about how it could get away
and the organization. We have a five page safety plan
where you take it, you feel it out, and you

(26:30):
give a copy to someone you can trust. I get
a copy and they keep a copy and they go
on they way. We know where they're at at all times.
You just can't. You just can't help someone get out
and just forget about it. That's not right, that's not

(26:51):
how it goes. And missus Lewis, can you imagine being
somewhere where you know you're not wanted a love, but
you don't have a choice but to stay. Can you
just imagine that? And we in a black culture, we

(27:16):
have to get educated. We have to get educated, We
have to get out the mind frame or it ain't
my business. So I'm not gonna intervene. It's your business.
If you see it happening, and you don't intervene in
a death or something else come about, you're gonna be
held accountable because you knew it. Yes, you might not
be held accountable in man's eye, but you gonna be

(27:38):
held accunible. And that's what I do. I try my
best to get people to understand that we have to
come together in unity. We don't have any unity anymore, right,
we don't. And you, as a black man sitting here
wanting to discuss it, that's awesome. That's amazing because another

(28:03):
black man can be sitting here watching this and learn
from it.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yes, and.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
I have experience in it. I overcome it. So when
you ask me if I have experiencing domestic violence, what
you want to know? The beatings, the dragons, the getting
whipped with the lamps, what do you want to know?
That's experience, that's experience. And I pray that someone in

(28:38):
the black community community would say, Hey, I got this
building here, let's all come together, remodified and have it
where a lady and her kids can go stay there
for up to a year, provide them with the things

(28:59):
that they need, education, job wise, everything to help them
get on a Well.

Speaker 6 (29:06):
We're so busy, hm, be living each other, chilling each other, Yes,
to even see the bigger picture.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
That's so true that that is so.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Everything that you're saying about that is how we have
have turned into this And I talked about that.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Last night.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
How we we.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
The scripture was basically that we're supposed to bear one
another's burdens. Fact, we're supposed to the question I asked
two questions, who do.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
You run to? And who can run you? Who do
you run to? When?

Speaker 5 (30:07):
When? When?

Speaker 4 (30:08):
When you're in this situation as you're talking about, maybe
you're in that situation and you want somebody to be
able to say, this is what's going on.

Speaker 7 (30:18):
But in order for that to happen, you have to
create a space and a place where a person feels
safe enough that they can come to you and say,
this is what's going this is my burden that I'm burying.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
What it says, in order to have friends, we must
show ourselves. Yes, but it's not going on where where
I don't even understand it anymore. I really don't. I
don't understand it. It's happening in Oh God, it's happening

(30:57):
in a gay community. No, that's something that no one
wants to talk about. But like I said, I don't discriminate.
If they call me, I'm going I cannot judge you
by your lifestyle, your color, none of that. But I
can help you. I can help you, yes, and we're

(31:23):
not doing that. Mister Lewis. I have to tell you
this and this is live and I I don't how
do Elsea say, I don't ball none. I'm real with it.
A good friend of mine, her husband was beating her

(31:44):
on the north side of Houston and her grandson nine
years old, and he hit the gentleman to get him
off her grandmother, get him off his grandmother, and then
the process that he called nine one one and the
police come out, Harris County come out. They talked to

(32:06):
him and told him you go sleep in another room,
told her you go sleep another room. They left it
like that. Of course, we found out later that his
uncle was a sergeant with HPD. Okay, but in a
in a process of that, he he come down a

(32:28):
little bit and he started beating up with again, beating
up again, and he went to attack the nine year
old with a hammer. He was going to hit him
in the head with it. She called me. I called
nine one one four times while she was on my
other line, begging and pleading for somebody to come out there.

(32:52):
Nobody would go out there, so of course I have
to tell you this. The Newbiest gun Club though, there's
the organization that does the rescue. They've been with me
for eight years. I called them and within a matter
of twenty minutes. Everyone lives different angles of Houston. They

(33:16):
was out there in Humble at the lady's house. When
the police finally come back out mh they say they
couldn't do it. The police say they couldn't do anything
about it because this time he was in the yard.
He hadn't got in the house yet. She could see

(33:40):
him on a ring camera. Missus Lewis. She file report
after report after report. This man was married three times.
All three of his wives had restraining orders against him
for domestic violence. And I'm gonna go a little bit

(34:01):
deeper with you. He was a pastor. He was a
pastor and Constable Jerry Garcia, he's over here in this
district in Southeast Houston. I made a phone call to
him and I told him what was going on. He

(34:24):
got the help I needed. And still today, this was
three years ago. I still have that same text message
at the time where I had the Chief of Police
phone number, sell phone number, I sent him a message,
you know, yeah, whatever you need, we're gonna help you.
You text me. I never got a response. Wow, never

(34:47):
got a response. That's why I say I'm not gonna
sugar coat. I'm gonna put everything in the full front,
because as long as we sugar coat and don't bring
it to the forefront, it's gonna continue going and going
and going.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Yes, and.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
Me and my friend talked and I told her, I say,
seem like nothing's gonna be resolved, but I promise you
you're still gonna be living when judgment gonna come upon him.
Eight months later, her phone got a message. She called.

(35:24):
It was the police in Tennessee. He was driving eighteen
whiler now and stop to pick up something, hit the
side of a bridge, flipped over on top of another
eighteen willer Wow, and kill itself. But his family called

(35:44):
her to see if she compare to get the body
back in Buryed Mm hmm. Yeah. And I'm tired of
seeing elected officials and any one else when it's only
election time. You only see them when it's election time.

(36:09):
That's the only time you see them when they need
that vote. Houston has millions of dollars to help with
domestic violence. But if we will stop lining our inside pockets,

(36:31):
we can help someone. If we can stop being in
our circle, we can help someone. You can't say that
you're helping someone get out of something when you're only
helping people that's in your circle. Don't you know you're
doing guard's work. When you help someone that can help themselves,

(36:52):
that person cannot, That person cannot give you anything back.
Why I'm gonna ask you, why? Why is it like
that one has society turned to well, we don't want
to help each other anymore?

Speaker 1 (37:10):
And you know that's that is so such a good question.
Where are we?

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Where are we when we can we can see someone
else going through mm hmm, but we.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Would rather look away than the offer assistance.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
Are Where are we when when we would rather criticize
someone who's going through something and point blame at them
for being.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
In it, yes, instead of offering a way to get out?

Speaker 5 (37:45):
Exactly?

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Where are we?

Speaker 5 (37:47):
Exactly? Exactly?

Speaker 2 (37:49):
You know?

Speaker 4 (37:52):
Here's here's what I know. It's it's so strange that
it doesn't become important. Come on, it doesn't become a
matter of of of of interest, It doesn't become a
keynote until it's knocking on your dough.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
When it's down the street and it's happening, it ain't
no big deal.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
But see what I know is about same thing about bock,
grace and blessings and you know. And when it's over there,
we can say, well, I'm okay, because eventually it's gonna
come over here. Let me tell you the same thing.
It can eventually come over here. Am I my brother's keeper?
See we we we turn a blind eye because it

(38:40):
ain't in my house. Them ain't my children acting like that?

Speaker 6 (38:44):
M hm?

Speaker 1 (38:46):
That ain't that. Ain't that ain't that ain't mean it's
going on up in here. This is not happening in
my house, so I don't need to worry about it.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
See what he's this and this is this is old
crazy country boy thinking, Okay, that little boy or that
little girl that that was in that home that witnessed
such okay, eventually grow up to be a grown adult.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
And that grown adult ends up being with this child
of yours who was in your house.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
See see that little one over there, that that ain't
my business, because little that ain't my business. That's little
Tommy over there, grow out to grow up to be
Big Tommy. And when big tom it comes.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Now Big Tommy.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
See see little Sarah and now little Sarah like Big Tommy.
Now they done got.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Together, but Big Tommy still has the trauma from what
happened with Little Tommy.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Come on that unresolved stuff that it wasn't your business,
that ain't mine.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
That's that's them over there, see see there for me,
that's that's just me.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
That's just how I look at it is that when
we think that it don't involve us, mm hmm, it
all involves us.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
The commandment.

Speaker 8 (40:26):
Love, love thy neighbor, Love thy neighbor as thyself.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
Do you know that's one of the two. That's love God,
Love thy neighbor. Love God, Love thy neighbor, Love God
with all my heart, love thy neighbor as I love.

Speaker 5 (40:59):
So how can you say you love God so someone
you've never seen before? That but you won't help nobody
that need help.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
That you see every day.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
It don't it don't go together. It don't go together.
It doesn't go together. And I'm a lady to be
here talking to you because I watch you and you
have much knowledge, and I wanted to be able to
sit here and get that knowledge in that wisdom because

(41:33):
see the knowledge and the wisdom that you're talking about,
you get it from God. You may not realize it,
but it's me and other people are getting something that
we need for everyday life, for every day life, because

(41:55):
domestic violence is every day to life. The state of
Louisiana was ranked number two involving homicide with domestic violence
homicide yes because nobody care. Because nobody care. It ain't

(42:24):
happening at miles Yes, and they're not a major influence
in the community. So we don't need to bring attention
to that, because if we bring attention to it, then
those people that's put in positions are gonna have heat

(42:46):
brought to them. Yes, And so they not understanding that
if you truly one helps someone from your heart, you
have received permission from God.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (43:07):
So if you receive permission you it's gonna work. But
if you think because you in power that you can
do something, it's gonna fail because you may have the power,
but you can't get permission. You don't get permission. I

(43:30):
never I me myself the way I was, mister Lewis.
I'm very transparent when I was going through went through
I didn't care about nobody else but making show I
was good. I'm gonna be real, making sure I was good.
I gave up on God. Why did God allow me

(43:51):
to get beat the way I was beating? Where was he?
Was he sitting back there looking down laughing? I want
to know these things. Never never thought that he was
using me for his good, Never thought he was using me.

(44:13):
But it's good. And uh, all these things. I say,
A piece of paper with ink that's gonna eventually fade
away doesn't mean nothing. If I can't help someone live
another day. That showed, mister Lewis that show? Yes, I'd

(44:36):
rather lay my life down for another life to live.
And I'm being very real with this because just what
is coming to because domestic bolence is on the rise,
and it's on a rise, and it's being swept under
the rug. Just go ahead, you know.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
And I don't know about other folks.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
You know, when I see these things that we make
memes out of, and we wanna repost this stuff, and
we see this stuff that's going on and we don't,
we don't take We see this this street fighting, or
we see this happening and and we we want to
repost it and we want.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
To share with everybody in the world. Do we not realize? See,
come on, please, when I see when I.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
See those videos, it does something to me when I
see people and they sew these fights and women fighting
and girls fighting and men fighting women, and it does
something to me because it says, my god, where are
we exactly where are we that this is now entertainment?

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Well, see, we.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
We missed, we missed, we missed the fact that they
do these things. They do these things to condition our
mind to become used to it, so it don't have
the shock value that it should. Don't you know that
people keep replaying these things and it don't mean as
much because now it has lost it because oh, it's.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Just them doing with it.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
It's the normal. We become numb to it. We become
numb to it. And now, well, we attacking each other
so much, be living each other so much, and that's
hurtful to me. And some things that I see, I
don't understand it. I'm gonna be six because I wasn't

(46:42):
brought up like that. Yes, I was brought up in
a little country town of loving and helping each other.
A lot of stuff like this I can't reach the
concept of it, and I'm seeing more black women saying that,
Oh I'm helping uplift women.

Speaker 9 (47:04):
Excuse my French please for one minute. How the hell
are you helping them when you own Facebook? Dragging each other,
hurting each other.

Speaker 5 (47:16):
That's not help. That's a warp mentality, that your mental status.
You need to go sit out somewhere, take a breather
by yourself. Men and women are doing this to each other.
So guess what. We become immune to it. Domestic violence

(47:41):
don't matter anymore. Oh, that's everyday thing. They do that
every day, it's gonna matter. Like you say, when it
hits and knock on your door, Yes, when you.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
Get that call, when you get that call and that's
your child. When when when that call comes, is this
this is Then it becomes a reality. Then it went
from being that thing, that that that you could have.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Stepped into. Mm hmmm, when that what could I have done? Moment?
When when you have seen it and you've seen it happening,
but you said nothing.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
You you set quietly, You set because that's them, them's
grown folks.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
You set, and you watched it.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
You set. We we become immune to. We become immune
to it. So we're in a society now that hell,
I can kill you in it. None don't be done
about it. Our our mind, if we don't read condition

(48:59):
our mind, If we don't get out of that stinking thinking,
we're gonna stay down. Yes, we need more education, see don't.
I don't get out there and get into the the
legal aspect of domestic violence. I don't want to do that.

(49:19):
I get out there because I want to do the rescue.
I want to be there when that woman walk out
that don't and I can hold her and I can
pray with them, and I can bring us somewhere safe.
That's that's what I do. And we are we all

(49:41):
could do that. Like I said, if we just change
our mind, I can call you. Ain't mister Lewis. I
got a woman such and such on your side of town.
If you can just meet me here, Just meet me
there where you can watch me to make sure nothing
happens to me while go and get uh.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
You just did.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
You just saved my life and her life. Yes, but
we don't think like that. We don't think domestic violence
is not just physical. Them words will tear you down
because you hear them words over and over and over
and over, and you become to y'all, I'm not gonna

(50:24):
mount to nothing. I'm not good for nothing, but just
to be a punching bag. We have we gotta start over.
Something has to give in order for us to uh
get back, yes, get back to unity. And what's gonna

(50:45):
have to give is that people are gonna have to
turn back to something more powerful that can lead us.
If they don't turn back, missus live that they don't
turn back to God. It's it's it's an ever, what's
gonna be? What's gonna be? Because you're either gonna you're

(51:07):
gonna wind up two places, the jail house or the cemetery.
That's the only two places that you're gonna You're gonna
you're gonna go. Domestic violence start when kids are in junior. Oh,
I got a little boyfriend, and you know, little barfriend

(51:31):
may get to say something verbally. You know, we need
this education in schools at a young age. Yes, we
gotta have that. I worked with a mother and it
told me down. The mother was on drugs. She had
a beautiful daughter, fifteen year old daughter. She was strung

(51:57):
out on drugs. So she decides to allow that man
to be with her daughter. She was getting her drugs
for free, daughter not knowing any better, that man buying
out a new hair, everything that she wanted, but he
was controlling her, he was beating her. So when she

(52:19):
decided I don't want to do this anymore, that's when
it blows up. That's when that young girl loses her life.
And the mother can't do nothing about it because she
allowed it to happen. I've it's domestic violence has truly

(52:45):
truly been on the rise in a black culture. It has,
and that's because we weren't raised. What goes on the
home stays in the home. Yeah, was raised that way.
But if you hit me now, I'm telling everybody, everybody,

(53:06):
I'm telling everybody. If and you know what, we laughing,
but if we can bring more attention to it, oh
they gonna stop.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Oh yeah, they're gonna stop.

Speaker 5 (53:19):
So that's why I said, I'm telling everybody. Everybody's gonna listen.
Tell me. I'm telling it. I'm telling it. I'm telling
it in the jail house. I'm gonna tell it. I'm
gonna tell it. Yes, yes, but we need men like
you that's willing to stand up and say I'm against
domestic violence, all forms of domestic violence, spiritual, mentally, physically, financially.

(53:46):
I'm against all of this. And if I truly feel
that we can get more black men to stand up
against it, it would make a difference because we would
truly feel that I can depend on the legal system,

(54:08):
but I can depend on that man right there that's
standing up for men say no, right, We're not gonna
let it happen. Yes, like they say not on my watch.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
There's so many different forms there. There's the mental abuse,
the verbal there's so many and all of it. We
have been conditioned. The verbal abuse. We've been conditioned so
much to take these things and take these words when
people are slowly.

Speaker 5 (54:45):
See, here's go ahead, please.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
The verbal abuse are the scars.

Speaker 5 (54:52):
We don't see, and those are the ones that hurt
the most. Yes, because see, you can beat me, you
can beat me and bruce me up. But eventually, weeks
those bruises gonna fade away. Yes, but that verbal it's
gonna be played in here. And the reason I say

(55:14):
that is because what I'm taking in here and what
I'm hearing you tell me, I'm taking it all in.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Yes, yes, yes, it now has become a part of me. Now,
I'm starting to see myself like you see me exactly.

Speaker 5 (55:34):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
I'm starting to be as worthless mm hm as you
say that I am.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
I'm starting to I'm starting to be I'm only gonna
be good enough to lay on my back and just
what I can get. Yes, See, nobody want to talk
about the realness of it, but that's the realness of it.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Yes, yes, yes, And why is it that?

Speaker 5 (56:05):
And I'm gonna I'm gonna continue pushing this in a
black community because it's real. Why when we have powerful
black men in positions that can help, they help whom
they help, who they can be seen with, that's who

(56:31):
they help. I will never die on a black man.
I have much respect for a black men. But I
can't go along to get along. I can't do that.
We die. We still dying, mister Lewis. We're dying. And
it's like I would coach, you don't care about each other?

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (56:56):
Do I do you think I should honestly have to
and which I'm can do it anyway, travel to other
states because they calling me to go help there when
I can do so much in Houston. I'm finna get
down to the nitty gritty with it. I'd have been
to Mississippi at Lamptown m hmm, Chicago, so many other places.

(57:24):
I'll get a phone calling, can you can you? Yes,
I'm on my way, and I can't get now person
here to see what's truly going on because we all
wrapped up in in self glory. Yes, we wrapped up

(57:47):
in self glory and it's wrong. But nobody wants to
speak up and say it's wrong, right, because you feel
you're gonna get criticized up, you're gonna be retaliated against
because you sup what retaliator gets me? Because I feel
no one but God, and if God allowed me to

(58:09):
go through like I say, those beatens being drugged downstairs,
knives being thrown at me. Hell, what what can words
do me? Nothing? Not, nothing at all, nothing at all.
And it's a it's so simple, and it's so easy

(58:34):
to say, you know what, I'm gonna listen. I'm hearing.
I'm gonna listen to what you're singing. Right, I can't
help you. Sometimes all you have to do is listen, yes,
and singing. If you can get educated, I push for

(58:54):
everyone to get educated on domestic violence you can see
the science or tell sign is when a woman being abused,
she can't lift up her head to talk to you.
She can't look at you in your face. She's always
looking down me. One thing that I haven't gotten over

(59:15):
is I can't stand for someone to be close to
me in my face, like you invade in my space.
It's like it does something to me. Even like if
I go out and do photos, they can't stand close
to me. And that's something you see I have to

(59:36):
work through. Wow, That's why I say education is the key.
Right that woman can't pick up her head, or you
make a loud noise and she flinched. Learn the signs.
I have so much paper that I give out for free.

(01:00:02):
If you want to get educated, I offer it all
the time. We help ladies get eyeglasses. I partnered with
America's Best. So it's a survivor need eyeglasses, she go
get a free testing and free eyeglasses. It's there, Like

(01:00:23):
I said, it's there, but nobody tells us about it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
A woman needing to get away, all she got to
do is fill out that Victim's Advocate packet at the DA.
There's money to relocate her. But guess what, she doesn't
know about it because nobody tells all about it, right,
and it's their education. There are seminars that we as

(01:00:55):
black people can take to get educated, but guess what,
we don't get invited to them. We don't know they're
going on until it happens because guess the person that's
given it, they don't let it be known. I had

(01:01:17):
the honor and the privilege of training with a lady,
working on side of a lady and mister Lewis when
we were both honored at Rice University. My sister, because
I'm gonna say my sister because she's my same color,
walked past me and didn't speak Wow, did not acknowledge me.

(01:01:43):
And that was the most hurtful thing I've ever felt. Wow,
because she went through what I went through. We trained together,
we cried together, we held each other together, pass right
by me and didn't acknowledge me because some things I

(01:02:13):
can't say. But that's a hurtful thing. That's why I
ask you, do we matter? Do I matter? Do I matter?
I'm asking you do I matter? Do a black woman matter?

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
I'm not prejudiced at all. I may help anybody, but
my main thing is I have to make sure black
women are saved. Somebody has to care, right. I don't
even ask people to donate money or help me. I

(01:02:55):
don't because if you have a mandate on your life
from God to do what he wants you to do,
He's gonna make sure that everything is supplied what you need. Yes,
in the last eight years, Mr Donnie, I didn't have

(01:03:16):
to ask anybody for anything. It just came here. It
was supplied. It was supplied. We've come together. We've re
modeled shelters, safe homes for ladies. We did that form.
We have electricians that work with us. I have an

(01:03:37):
amazing educator that has a master's degree. She lives in
Baton Rouge. But she teaches the class. But get this,
she teaches classes to the offender. She teaches classes to
the offender when the court orders them to take that class.

(01:03:58):
She teaches that he breaks it down the seat. What
causes a man to do this? And sometime it's trauma
that was done to them, right that what goes on
in the home staying home, so they never got the
help that they needed. I have a spiritual advisor on

(01:04:24):
board because if I have to make sure I'm covered
at all times, and anything that I'm going with is covered.
The chief of financial officer owns a cell phone company,
so that's how we're able to give them free cell
phones and pay their bills. And the shadow team that

(01:04:51):
goes out and help. I love that word because you
never know they there. I love that word. So we
out there trying to help, but we're getting so much pushback.
We're getting so much pushback, and I don't even know
what else to do, mister Downey, Seriously, because if I

(01:05:13):
can go from being a domestic violence survivor to being
a cocaine dealer to being my own best customer, anybody
can get help. And I was my own best customer.
I snorted up my supply after a while, I was

(01:05:33):
going broke. Mister Loris I that so good that I
could transport cocaine cross state lines and you never knew
about it. I grew up. I got at it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Uh he but look I got I got two words.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
But God, But God, because see I thank God for change. Yes, well,
I have a different mindset, but I thank God that
I still have that some of that street man taranty

(01:06:25):
in the back of my mind where I can get
out of a situation. Right. But like you say, but God, but.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
You know I'm gonna say something ms. Harmon. It wasn't
the fact I have to give. I give God all
the glory, but we have to also, I'm stan.

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
It wasn't the fact that God changed you. It was
the fact that you opened up and received and allowed
the change to happen.

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
Because the thing is choice, and missus lewis when I
dropped down onto my I dropped to my knees crying
not to God and say God, I surrender. I can't
do this, I can't do this no more. I surrendered everything.
I didn't have a job when I come here, I
didn't have nothing. But we have to understand now, when

(01:07:19):
we surrender, we gotta surrender whole heartedly. Yes, you can't
hold nothing back. And it's not gonna happen overnight, but
it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
I never thought I'd be wam now helping people because
of the mentality, with the street mentality. At the time, man,
I ain't care about nobody but myself. I was making
that money, I was living good. I was shocked, but
I was traveling. Why would I want to stop that
to help you right. But when it came knocked on

(01:07:52):
my door, it knocked on my door and it happened
to me, and I made the choice of not telling
my family. I made the choice of taking it on
my own, my own hands. When he was walking down
the Middle street, Louise and I hit it with my call.

(01:08:13):
The reality said that You're going to jail. And when
reality said that I was going to jail, I went
home and told my daddy, Daddy, you wanted to help
me pack you all, I'm moving to Texas. I didn't
tell my daddy what I did, but I had to
get out of there right. But it was it was Oh,

(01:08:34):
if I can tell you, the process was so hard
that I wanted to go back to those old ways
because the process was hard. But I stayed the course.
I stayed the course. I get here in Houston. I

(01:08:55):
started dating this wonderful god magnificent. He was from Chicago. Boom.
One night that summer, Gunn called me by the throat.
Get that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
It started all over again because I wasn't heeled from it.
Yes I was. I I was looking for someone to
love me because I was masking the pain.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Come on, tell the truth.

Speaker 5 (01:09:33):
I was Oh, yeah, I'm opening eyest I was masking
that pain. But I tell you what when that's when?
That's sofa gun let me down and he went to
the bathroom. I ain't never knew I could run that fast, shirt,
I had my keys, I want in my corner. I
never looked back and guess what he was a pastor MM.

(01:09:59):
So I had to get into them with God because
we can all say we're doing God's work, but were
we chosen and called by Him to do that work?
So I had to say, okay, Lord, you gotta shut
me down, yes, and let me rely on you. Oh,
I'm gonna continue going in the same sec where Lord,

(01:10:22):
I'm too small for people to beat all like that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
I might not survive that next leek right right.

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
I had to give it to God. Yes, God is everything,
mister lewis to me. I can sit here, laugh and
joke with you. But if it wasn't for God, I
wouldn't be here. I wouldn't be here. If if I

(01:10:50):
could have one one thing in my lifetime right now,
it would be to make sure every victim that's going
through something have a safe place to stay that night
and get get a good sleep. And a good hot meal,

(01:11:11):
and the next day we can think about the plan.
All I want to do is be a servant. Yes,
I just want to be a servant.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Amen, Amen, Miss Herman.

Speaker 4 (01:11:29):
As we get oh my god, as we get close
to the end, there's a couple of things I want one.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
I've got two questions.

Speaker 4 (01:11:41):
But before I get to my questions for you, I
want you to be able to I want you to
share with people where they can reach out your number
or website or or any information about how they can
get in contact with you, or if they want to donate,
if they want to make if he needs some help
or whatever it is that's your services, or maybe they

(01:12:04):
just want to give, or maybe they just want to
offer an encouraging word.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Can you ask them how to get in contact with you.

Speaker 5 (01:12:15):
My pumb number is three four six five three zero
eight zero five eight. It's unique a Horman on Facebook,
The Vine, Pearls of Royalty on Facebook, The Vine Perils
of Royalty on Instagram, Raw Blessings on Instagram. My number

(01:12:35):
is open. I never turned the phone off. You can
call me twenty four seven. Even if I just have
to listen to you, and I won't, I just Oh God,

(01:13:00):
you said something so profound just now. It's even an
encouraging word. Because sometime I get tired. Yes, I want
to stop. There's a lot of times I want to stop.
And in the midst of it, mister Lewis always get
a phone call telling me thank you every single time.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
Won't he do it? Won't he do it? Won't he
do it?

Speaker 5 (01:13:26):
And if I could just get people to pray for
my strength to and for me to stay humble and
not think it's about me, because see, if it's a
meaningful proud like that, just to keep me humble, I
can finish this journey that I'm home. Amen, Just keep

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me humble because it's not about me. Yes, it's not
about me.

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
And wow, hey man, well I got I got. I
got a couple of questions for you. I got a
couple of questions you tell you tell them when you're ready.
Oh country, I got a couple of old country questions
for you. First old country question is this, and this

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is kind of you know, I have to throw some
stuff in there. Well his his question. Downtown Houston, they're
building a brand new library, okay, mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
And what they're gonna do is they're gonna bury a
time capsule.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
They've come to you, and they said, we want you
to leave a message and put a message in this
time capsule that when they opened it one hundred years
from now, that will be a message from you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
What would your message be.

Speaker 5 (01:14:53):
Love and unity. They can open that one hundred years
from now and see where it's about loving you and
nothing else.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Yes, hey man.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
And the last question I used to have three, I'm
gonna cut it. The two last question is this. And
you said that that you're you're closing in on You're
closing in on sixty. I'm a hold of door on
for you. Come on, come on, join us, Come on,
join and senior citizens over here, I've.

Speaker 5 (01:15:28):
Been having my AA R P card. I get my discou.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
As we sit here, as we sit here today July
the ninth, The time right now is eight fifty one.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
As we sit here today, July the ninth, at eight
fifty one, the.

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
Question at this very moment, you can think about it
or you can just you can give it off your heart.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
The question is this, are you on the other side
of wow?

Speaker 5 (01:16:08):
Mm hmmm, mm hmmm. I can answer that different ways,
different ways I can answer different ways, h different ways
mm hmmm, mm hmmmmmmmm right now in this time, that's

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hard to answer because there's different different ways. It's hard
to answer. Where are you? M hm, mister Lewis.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
Yeah, and and and whatever see. And here's the thing is,
there's no, there's no This is not a right or
wrong answer. This is and and this is this is,
this is you, This is whatever God puts see And
that's why I say, whatever God puts on you right now,
is you know?

Speaker 5 (01:17:17):
Mm hmm. Where am I on the other side? Mm hmmm.
I would put it to you this way right now
as what I can see now, I'm on the other

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side of how can I put it? I'm on the
other side of hell, trying to reach back up, hm,
to lift somebody to stand up and live again. That's

(01:18:03):
where I'm at right now, because it's hell every day, Amen,
every day.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Amen, Where are you?

Speaker 5 (01:18:19):
Because see I'm gonna come back and like.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
What am I on the other side of I'm on
the other side of loss hmm. I'm on the other
side of pain.

Speaker 5 (01:18:38):
M hm.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
I'm on the other side of.

Speaker 4 (01:18:44):
Pleasing others. I'm on the other side of not knowing
whose I was I'm on the other side of being
an awful person. I'm on the other side of being
an awful parent. I'm on the other side of being

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an awful child.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
I'm on the other side of being depressed.

Speaker 5 (01:19:12):
But you on the right side.

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
Hey, oh, I'm sorry, I'm on That's what I'm on
the other side of is I'll sit here today.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
That's what I'm on the other side of. That's what see.

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
That's that that mirror that I that that that two
way mirror's a two way mirror. So when I look,
I can see what's on the other side, and I say,
thank god, I'm on this side.

Speaker 5 (01:19:35):
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:19:36):
I'm not discrediting the other side because the other side
truly exists, because if it had not the other side,
I would not be on this side.

Speaker 5 (01:19:44):
Mmy, you mess, but go ahead, shah.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
But that is I'm not ashamed of the other side,
because the other side, the other side, it took the
other side. See, it took the field in order for
David get to the palace. I'm glad I was on
the that side. On that side prepared me to be
on this side.

Speaker 5 (01:20:09):
That's why I say I'm It's nothing a brag to say,
I was a cocaine deal and I snorted much cocine,
drunk much crime world, having a good time. But that
side taught me, Hey yeah, oh shut your mouth, I say,

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shut you mouth.

Speaker 4 (01:20:36):
I'm not I'm not ashamed of where I came from.
I'm not ashamed of who I've been. I will never
forget that person, because for me, I will always be
tied to that person. I'm not like some folks who
want to discredit and this on they pass, because your
past is the one that created the person that is
here today. It was every step, It was every whooping

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it was. It was every every drink I took, It
was every every every puff of weed I ever smoked.

Speaker 5 (01:21:05):
It was all of that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
It was all of that. It was every night that
I was a whore. It was all of that. It
was all of that that got me to this side. See,
if I had not been there, I would have missed something.

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
See, even though it may not see, I always didn't
follow God's direction, but I always received his correction.

Speaker 5 (01:21:29):
You know what exactly? I didn't follow his direction all
the time, but he still left me no matter what.
When I was out there, pardon doing what I wanted
to do. He still protected me, he still made sure

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that I got home safe, and he never he never
left me. I chose to leave him because see me,
I was the prodigal daughter. Yes I was. And we
have to accept that in life, when we do things,

(01:22:14):
God don't lose, He don't leave us. But now he
can remove his head of protection from around us to
allow us to see, allow us to experience that what
we think is right isn't right. And oh and I

(01:22:36):
am I'm honored. I'm grateful that he accepted me back,
because see, he gave me a decision. He gave me
the right to have the choice of accepting him and
going back to him or doing what I wanted to do.

(01:22:56):
And do you know, mister Lewis, I will tell you
this before we leave this live broadcast. As long as
I was in the world, doing what I wanted to do,
how I wanted to do it, I ain't had no problems,
no hard time, no hard times. But Lord, I musty
when I surrendered, I got cause represents the loss apartments

(01:23:22):
because I was like, man, I should have never chose
God because it's getting bad right now. But where I'm
mad right now, I would leave it for the world.
I stand for Christ. I will walk with Christ. And

(01:23:44):
like I said, if a person don't want to help
because I stand for Christ, I'm fine with that because
I have to understand that's their decision they made. I
can't be mad at them for that right. The only
thing I can do is tell them thank you. But

(01:24:07):
in my mind I'm praying for them at the same time. Amen,
So I want you to I'm gonna tell you these words,
and I want you to remember I have a voice,
not just an echo. Because see, when I was being
b I did, you couldn't see my face, so my

(01:24:33):
voice didn't matter. But when I stood up and I
realized who I was and whose I was, and I
spoke of because I wasn't gonna be solid anymore, my
voice started matter. So your voice mattered, My voice mattered.
Everybody's voice matters. I thank you, I thank you. I

(01:24:59):
thank you just to be able to be in the
same atmosphere of a person that has that Christ like
mine can see when I'm here in the same atmosphere
with you. So whatever you getting, hey, blessed with he

(01:25:23):
coming to me? Yes, yeah, He's coming to me. So
I'm gonna stay on the same street that you want.
I'm not on that Ooh God, this is not what
I'm supposed to be doing, but I gotta do it
before I get off here. To see the name of
the street that you're on right now, thank you, Lord,

(01:25:43):
is a relationship street. You got on friendship street a
long time ago, cause see I was on that relationship boat.
Then I say, now, I don't want to be on
that no more. I'm going on a friendship boat. So
I'm on that friendship boat mister Lewis and were roaring
and repealing, mister Lewis, and the war just coming in

(01:26:07):
the boat, mister Lewis, so I'm sinking. Then I say, Lord,
I better go back to that relationship boat, because if
I get on that relationship boat with God. God is
the only one that's steering that boat. There's no water
coming on that boat because that main captain is steering

(01:26:28):
one way, the right way God. So I'm glad to
be on the same street as you. I want to
go back to the other street. I want to be
on that street where you're on that relationship street with God,
because see, you got a relationship that can't be broken,

(01:26:49):
So I want with you have I want that there
and I want to be able to bring another woman
on relationship ship street. Yes, then we ain't the name
of the street no more. It's gonna be a relationship boulevard,
this relationship drive.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:27:11):
And I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm sorry I couldn't go
to the studio, but I had emergency surgery last Thursday.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
Out of know where.

Speaker 5 (01:27:22):
I don't know where you are.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
You are, you will find you were fine looking here?

Speaker 5 (01:27:27):
What what? What?

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
God has n't standing in the way.

Speaker 5 (01:27:32):
That's why I know. I know without a shadow of
a doubt. God is gonna everything that I pray for
the help of domestic our survivor. It's there, and I'm
thanking him for it. Not because see when I when
I I'm getting it ready now. So when I receive it,
I knew he was gonna do it. It's just a

(01:27:54):
matter of time. Amen, Late Late. Happy birthday to you, lady.
Happy birthday, Thank you, lady, Happy birthday to you. I honor,
I'm graaf, I'm blessed. Thank you. That's all I can
say is.

Speaker 4 (01:28:09):
Thank you, well, thank you, thank you. I humbly accept it.
And I'm so I'm so honored. That you came and
you shared.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
Everything that you have. But it's been a blessing not
only to myself but to so many. And I thank you.
I thank you for walking in it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:30):
I thank you for going where he tells you to go,
for doing what he tells you to do, for saying
what he tells you to say.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
And I'm grateful. I'm truly, truly grateful.

Speaker 4 (01:28:41):
Know that you are continually in my prayers, You're continually
my support is here for you. I don't know what
this old country boy can do over here, but know
that that my arms a while open, that anything that
I can do this platform, God's platform is always is
open and available to you at any point, at any

(01:29:03):
given time. There's anything I can do outside here, whatever
whatever God's will is, Just know that, Know that be
undershadow of a doubt. As we get ready to call
it a night, call the week, I will ask you
before I shut her down, if you have any last

(01:29:26):
words you want to offer these people, anything else you
want to tell them, Tell them what you're gonna I'm
gonna sip on my sweet tea.

Speaker 5 (01:29:36):
Please leave, don't stay, because the the first leak can
be the last leak don't self them, gets yourself. Just leave.
If you don't want to leave for yourself, do it
for your children, because a mother's love is totally different

(01:30:07):
from a family member's law. So please leave, don't stay.
Don't don't hurt your kids like that by staying because
you don't have the means. Because if you can just
walk away, keep looking forward, you're gonna make it. You're

(01:30:29):
gonna make it. So please leave, call me, call somebody
else that can help you. I don't care who you call.
I don't care what organization you call me. Cause somebody
to get help.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
Hey man, please leave, don't stay.

Speaker 4 (01:30:48):
Heymen, thank you once more again for taking out the
time and your schedule to come and join and share.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
Honor. And I thank you. I thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:30:59):
I think to each and everyone who has tuned in,
who stopped by, who's ran upon this thing, thank you.
I appreciate your support. I appreciate your tuning in. Please like,
please share, don't share for me, Share the message. Share
the message. I'm not asking you to share because the old.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
Comfort from here. Share the message because a very very
important message.

Speaker 4 (01:31:22):
Tell somebody, Tell somebody, tell somebody to tell somebody, tell
somebody him as I get ready to.

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
Close this thing down.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
I'll say what I always say, because it's Wednesday, I
can and you know what they're gonna do five me.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
They can't anyway. The words I got to say is this,
Look at you. I gave us three things. He gave
us three things, my opinion, this country opinion.

Speaker 4 (01:31:46):
He gave us vision. He gave us purpose, and he
gave us instructions. Vision, purpose and instruction. And let me
tell you something about a vision and in purpose. Everybody's
not gonna see what he told you. Everybody's not going
to see the vision he gave you. Everybody is not
going to fee it. That's why one of the reasons
he said to write it down and make it place

(01:32:07):
Harold sees it, he can get it and run with it.
So when you write it down, that means you believe
in the vision. That means you actually believe in it
because you don't put it i your head and on
the paper. Let me write this down. This is the
vision God gave me. This is where I see this going.
Because he's not already told me. Look here, I'll tell
you about the vision.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
Vision is like.

Speaker 4 (01:32:27):
This vision is like when you go to the store
and you go to the toy ou, and you see
in the toy ou what they have is they have
this thing called a jigsaw puzzle. It's a puzzle. You
look at that picture on the box vision. You look
at that picture on the box. You see the vision.
You look at that picture on the box of that
jigsaw puzzle. But when you get that thing home and

(01:32:48):
you open that box, it's a bunch of pieces. That's
how that vision is that God gives each and every
one of us. He showed us what it j don't
looked like when it's finished, but you got to finish
the race. You got to finish the race. He's shown
us what it will look like when you finish the race.
But when you get it and you open it, it
looks like a whole bunch of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
But what you have to do.

Speaker 4 (01:33:11):
It says, faith without work is dead. Faith without work
is dead. Faith without work is dead. So when you
get the box, he then already shows you what the
vision looked like completed. But when you see it, it's
a whole bunch of stuff. What that means you've got
to start working to get the vision. You got to

(01:33:31):
start working. So what you do is you take those
pieces and you start putting them together. You may not
know where everything goes in the beginning, but as you work,
faith without work is dead.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
You're working on that vision.

Speaker 4 (01:33:43):
You're working on it, and you're putting the piece here,
and you put a piece there, and you put another piece,
and then you start looking like this thing is starting
to come together and look like something. It's starting to
look like the vision that he gave me from the box.
He gave me a glimpse of what it's supposed to
look like. It is finished, you start putting it together.

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Sometimes it ain't easy, and you want to quit because
you keep putting pieces in the wrong place and they
don't fit. That's what happened with our life. Were trying
to put things where they don't go. If they don't
go there, that means that don't go there. You can't
make it fit. It may go somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
Now it is a part of the vision.

Speaker 4 (01:34:21):
It just ain't fitting where you're trying to put it.
But it's a part and it has a purpose. Everything
in everyone that you've gone through has a part, and
it has a purpose because it fits into the bigger vision.
Walk in your purpose. Everybody is not going to believe
in the purpose that you're walking in. Everybody's not going

(01:34:44):
to believe in you. Everybody's not going to support your purpose.
Everybody's not gonna say, oh no, you tell them you
I'm writing a book. Everybody's not gonna support that. You
tell them, oh, you know what, I'm from the starter,
I'm fin the start to show. Everybody's not gonna support that.
If they If your purpose is to run a nails alone,
run that thing. If your purpose is to do half

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hard up, if your purpose is.

Speaker 5 (01:35:07):
To sing sing a song, you better say.

Speaker 4 (01:35:11):
People are mad at the purpose. People are not mad
at the purpose. People are not mad at the purpose.
People are upset because they say, why you got the purpose?

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
And our don't.

Speaker 5 (01:35:23):
Like them? Old people lose down and say, shut you,
my boy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
They not bad.

Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
They not questioning God and the purpose. They're questioning why
he give it to you. Well, let me tell you someone.
When you questioned why he gave me this purpose, why
he gave me this vision, what you should understand the
same thing he gave.

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Me he gave you. You got a vision. You have
a purpose.

Speaker 5 (01:35:44):
You just didn't work it. Oh, walk in it.

Speaker 4 (01:35:49):
Don't you allow anything or anyone to deter you from
the vision and the purpose that God has given you.

Speaker 1 (01:35:56):
When you start to get the terred and you start
to want to walk away, what do you do, country war?

Speaker 4 (01:36:02):
You go back and you read this. You go back
and you read the instructions. When you start to see
the instructions that he in.

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
That manual, there's a manual.

Speaker 4 (01:36:15):
There's a manual that He has given you, and it
has the instructions, reading them instructions, and then you go
back to that vision and you start walking in that purpose.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
Don't you stop? Don't you quit? Don't you give up?
And don't you give in? And know this, know this,
know this, if you don't know nothing else.

Speaker 4 (01:36:36):
I support you. I support you. I support you, I
support you, I support what God has given you. Why
Because who am I to say God didn't give you that?

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (01:36:51):
Who am I to say, Oh, he didn't tell you
you could write, he didn't tell you you could sing,
he didn't tell you you could start a business?

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
Who am I to say God didn't tell you that?

Speaker 5 (01:37:02):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (01:37:04):
And lastly, but not lastly, on behalf of myself and
my wonderful, wonderful guests. When I say this, I say
it from my heart. Know this, no dignity, no doubt.
Know these words is that we love you, we love you,

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we love you, we love you, and we love you
UNCONDI and miss hermon sometimes and I'm gonna do it.
I have to explain what that means. So let me
tell you in country terms, what it means. Unconditionally, unconditionally means.
If you support me, I love you. If you don't

(01:37:47):
support me, I still love you. If you root for me,
I love you. If you woo me, I still love you. See,
my love is not tied to what you do or
don't do for me.

Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
My love is to him. That's why I can love
you unconditioningly.

Speaker 5 (01:38:04):
You gotta gopy love who and there.

Speaker 4 (01:38:09):
Ain't nothing absolutely positiative lit, nothing that you can.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
Do about it.

Speaker 4 (01:38:19):
I thank y'all so very much, Thank y'all so very much.
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Ms Harmon, Thank you
for coming. I look forward to having you back again.

Speaker 5 (01:38:29):
Thank you for encouraging me, You for encouraging me when
I get we're in time, don't give up, go back,
go back and get fed with that word. Yes it's stronger. Yes,
thank you so much. It's a blessing. May God continue
to keep you, bless you, and always remove things from

(01:38:55):
my chial life that's not of him, and put all
things your life that's of him.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
Heymen, I received it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:03):
Don't get ready for your big studio's coming.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
Amen, get ready. I received that. I received that. All right,
good night everybody. We love y'all, love y'all were out
of here. Thank you, thank you,