1996 Varginha UFO Incident - Interview w/ Bryan Bowden

The Varginha UFO Incident involves a series of events in 1996 when residents of Varginha, Brazil claimed seeing one or more strange creatures and at least one unidentified flying object (UFO). Other associated claims include the capture of one or more extraterrestrial beings by the Brazilian authorities, animal fatalities at a zoo, and a woman impregnated by an extraterrestrial.


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So with all that behind us.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Well let's get on with the show. Welcome to this
episode of Mysterious Circumstances. I am joined yet again by
my good friend Brian Bowden, and we're going to talk

(03:23):
about the nineteen ninety six UFO incident in Brazil, where
supposedly a UFO crash landed and there were a couple
aliens creatures depending on the description that you want to
go by. It was witnessed by lots of people. There
were some people that died, and one of the bodies

(03:45):
supposedly was taken to a hospital afterward. I love the
government's explanation for this stuff. It is some of the
most creative. It's not even creative, it's just no imagination whatsoever.
And Brian just asked me what got me into it?

(04:05):
And I was on TikTok just kind of scrolling through
videos and I saw a short clip on it and
I kind of went from there. Of course, our bell
had interviewed somebody who had a lot of knowledge on it.
I listened to that, and then that's about the time
that I texted you randomly like I always do. So

(04:29):
I guess that's how I got into it. It's pretty interesting,
I personally think so. But yeah, that's pretty much how
I found it.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Man, I'll tell you what. I'm friendly with James Fox,
but like not like we're buddies. We don't go out
to drinks, you know. Yeah, message everyone. Well, you know,
he did a kick ass job on his film. I mean,
you know that film is just incredible. And if you
haven't seen the movie yet that came out about this case,

(05:00):
it's worth every penny that you would spend to go
see a moment of contact. Okay, I'm gonna tell you
straight up, it's fantastic and out of this world. He
almost got killed doing this, and he's one of the
few people that actually is as far as research investigator,
he's real boots on the ground. He goes down to
South America often and he investigates some of these cases.

(05:21):
And I like his angle because when you when you're
talking about this whole UFO subject, matter. Third world nations
are great because they don't always have the resources on
hand to really investigate these things. So sometimes people come
out like, ma, look what I got in the garage.
You know. You know some of these people come on, yo, Holmie,

(05:44):
let's go. That's why it's great. But this was this
was significant. I mean there's rumors on this thing. United
States of America they claim in nineteen ninety six that
they shut down a UFO. And I'm gonna tell you
that I've been researching UFO and all this paranormal stuff
for a long time, forty plus years. I don't think

(06:05):
the US even is closely remotely able to shoot down
at UFO.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Okay, that would be like absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, that this whole UFO, especially what was going on
this year with those mysteries balloons and stuff. The US
brink going to you shoot down at UFO is like
bringing a twenty two to a Howarzer fight. It ain't
gonna work for you, you know, It's just it's just
not I mean, we don't have the technology to do it. No.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
And you can listen to David Fraver, he was on
the fighter jet that took the tic TAC video and
even he said, he goes do this thing, anticipated my
moves before I even did them. There is no way
that we could ever do anything to these It's impossible.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
There's reasons for that. The reason is when you're within
a certain zone. For a lot of these extraterrestrials, ultra terrestrials, interdimensionals, whatever,
they work on a different wavelength. They work on consciousness
and they tap into you and they know. They can
speak to you and have you hear it. They can

(07:10):
send you images and have you see it. They can
give you experiences and have you have you experienced it?
Once they get close enough to tap into who you are.
When he's making them move like I'm gonna I'm gonna
ditch left and then come up, the UFOs already knows
what you're gonna do, and they're they're out of you know,
they'll they'll get out of there. But this year's speed
alone would prevent you on conventional weapons anyhow. Oh yeah, yeah,

(07:34):
So but I'm going to give them the benefit of
the doubt for this episode, i.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Will say, like, okay, So for the listeners, this happened
on January twentieth, nineteen ninety six, and it was in Brazil,
and you know the pronunciation of the town because I
screwed up every time.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
It's Vara Vrahinia Varhena, I believe, so my Spanish is limited.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
So according to Iwinness is there is a cigar shaped
craft and according to one witness, he said that it
kind of dipped down a little bit and then went
back up and then dipped down kind of like it
was having trouble trying to get out.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
And then he said the.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Craft was actually shaking, and he said it was like
a like a really wobbly dryer. He said it was
shaken like that before it crashed. Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yes? And no, let me go back a little bit.
So apparently this thing was shot at on the thirteenth
of January. Oh okay, so he goes back seven days prior.
And I think what happened was maybe something did happen,
maybe they did get lucky, or maybe they did something
where they didn't evasive maneuver. We don't know on the craft.

(08:48):
And it was in the twentieth where I guess it
reached that point of like it was messed up. That
craft was going down, And you're correct, I mean there's
there's a guy. His name is Carlos Decisions. Carlos was
the guy that was witnessed this craft initially, like you

(09:09):
know what he was, you know what it was doing.
He described it as like the size of a school
bus but the shape of a submarine, and it had
like white smoke out of it, you know, and a gash.
There was like a gash in the back of it.
And then the thing was like undulating, like a malfunctioning
watching machine, kind of like what I have now in
my house walking by itself, which is really odd. So

(09:34):
there must have been a geostabilization problem with the craft,
and then they really tried to either fix it or
rectify it or whatever, and it was like it wasn't working.
And then what happened is, you know, it was kind
of like jerking in and out of this you know,
they had said the Susan said something to the fact
that kind of looked like they had a little control.

(09:55):
Then it would go down deeper and then have a
little bit more control and go down and then eventually
it just crashed in the side of this field. It's
kind of like it's weird. Brazil is a very strange,
very mountainous region so it crashed in a field near
the He was there. He was like probably no more
than one hundred yards from it, and he got out

(10:17):
and he looked around and and he I think he
said at one point in one interview that he was
looking to see if anybody was hurt, first aid or
something like that. This guy is very interesting, and this
whole case is very interesting because it goes in a
little bit deeper. We'll get to that. But when he
was there, he so it looked like pieces of metal
and aluminum all across the strewn across the field like

(10:40):
where the crash. So it hit crass, moved, and then
it disappeared. And this must have been on the military
radar because not long after he was there, and you know,
he picked up a couple of pieces. And Susan was
describing how he picked up this piece. It looked like
aluminum foil and then he crumbled it up and then
he opened his hand, let it out, and it reformed

(11:00):
into the original shape it was. It returned into it.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
And from what I read on one site, the reason
the military showed up so fast, I from what I understand,
is that it was tracked on No Red by American government,
and they contacted the Brazil military and that was why
they showed up so shortly after the crash. That's just
what I read though.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Oh no, no, you're You're pretty much spot on. The
United States of America had been the sole source of
rescue recovery for unidentified craft and beings for decades only
up until recently. They went everywhere around the world, and

(11:47):
percent the time when you talk about UFOs crashing, somebody's Africa, Europe,
even near Russia, definitely in Asia. US were the first ones.
We got it, and they got it or they got
the military of said country to give it to them.
This was not a joke. The US would not let

(12:07):
any other people play in their reindeer games because this
is major league. They knew exactly what was going on
with this. I'm sure they alerted the military and they
said they finally probably got a picture of it going down,
and these people were probably high alert. What is I
think the military group is SAE capitally lowercase S capital

(12:29):
s A. I think that's the name of the YEAH organization,
Although every time I hear that, I just think of
one guy with his top button. Forget about.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
I know exactly what you're saying, because when I read it,
I was like, is that right?

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Or is that.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah? Walking in chinos and you know, yeah, Taylor, I
forgot that that scroll that they did, whatever it is,
I'm surprised the trucks for the military can come in bouncing,
you know, real dude.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
And the smell too. The smell was one thing.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
They were really specific on that. Suzor Desuza said that
it smelled like rank, like ammonia and sulfur. Just it
was overpowering.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Ammonia, sulfur, rotten eggs and well that's what the eggs,
eggs and sulfur in there. But the ammonia threw me
for a bit, threw me for a while. It still
throws me because there must be some kind of chemical
compound that's created or used when you put ammonia. We're
using ammonia. I'm not I did okay in my chemistry.

(13:39):
I didn't focus too much on it. You know, some
of these compounds that are reported in some of the
stuff that that's using this new technology of the of
the this UFO type technology is it's pretty interesting and
it's stuff that you wouldn't you would not expect you
to be using for a high tech type of machine.

(14:00):
But a lot of this stuff is commonplace. That's why
the ammonia is like, oh, this is interesting to know
this even more so because I've always had this belief
that we are we have things right now that are
readily available over the counter that we can probably use
to build anti gravitational devices and you know, hook it

(14:21):
up to our car and do the whole you know,
you can just figure it out. It's it's got to
be a lot more simpler than it is. That's just
my two cents. Yeah, he described the crash, but he
also described that the military is pretty much right there.
The soldiers just came out out of there their vehicle.
I think it's like the ten ton truck. What are
they using the military that that big troop transport, you

(14:44):
know with the canvas over it. My father in law
used to fix those mechanic wise in Germany. He was
in Germany and one time it was sliding down a hill.
He got, he goes, I'm out, he goes. He told
her we get out of there. He jumped out and
and he rolled over to the side and the thing
went down a ravine. But they told him, you know,

(15:04):
go away, get the hell out of here, you know.
And they ordered not only did they order him, they
actually threatened him with a rifle, several rifles, of course,
and he backed away. This guy doesn't seem like, you know,
the type of guy that's like a troublemaker. You know,
He's like, okay, out, I'm good.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
So yes, he saw some weird shit and wanted to
go check it out.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
I'm gonna go straddle back and forth from what I
remember prior to this different interviews. You mentioned Art Bell
and this was that was a long time ago, and
I've actually seen a documentary, you know. I mean I
didn't you know that was I didn't see when it
first came out. I got a message from Team Fox
about it, and it was just about I got caught

(15:47):
up in something. I was going to try to help
with the production, like, you know, not that I'm I'm
not rich at all, but I think there was like
almost like a like a GoFundMe type of s thing.
And I wish I could, but you know, I have
a real life and two daughters or so. They take
allment of money whatever I get it.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
I can't understand that.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, I was only recently being able to like, you know,
and I had to break it up in the three
sessions because when you have kids that are younger, it's
like you have no time here, so you know, it's like,
can I condact go to the bathroom for one that
I gotta go now because I'm like, okay, I'm coming.
I've seen this thing over a couple of different times,

(16:26):
you know, a couple of days, and then one day
I had you know, it's like probably four days. And
also after a while the life I got tired. I'm
like and go to sleep and want you know, I
want to pay attention to what James is doing because
James Fox really does a great job on Holy crap.
I'm I'm so thoroughly impressed with what he did, and
I think there's gonna be some more coming out from him.

(16:47):
He's working on an angle. But well we'll talk about
that in a second. So, yeah, the military was right there,
and he was later on just Susan was interviewed and
contacted later on as one of the eyewitness but he
was just one of those people that were involved in it.
The real good stuff gets.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
When the three women.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, and I had to look this up because I
didn't remember. I knew there was three young girls, like
one was like, yeah, fourteen fifteen, the other one was
like twenty one. They were all friends.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
This was seven days after the crash for the most part.
The three girls and one was Katiya Xavier. Oh, I'm
going to brudle this fella. Sylvia and Lilian, thank you,
Thank god, Sylvia. The two sisters and the older girl

(17:41):
were walking through an empty lot between their houses and
what caught one of their eyes was graffiti on these
on the walls, and this is you know, sometimes it's
gang related, sometimes just a free expression of yourself. And
it caught their eye and as one of them went
closer to it, that's when they literally saw the creature.

(18:02):
It was there. It was on the ground, yeap, and
it's sitting. It's kind of like what the it's like
a squat the squat position. They were just in awe,
you know, they saw this creature there and they said
that it looked very frightened and like it was afraid.
But they also said it looked a little bit sick.
It was wobbly, and you know, it's freaking hot in Mozilla,

(18:25):
So there may there could have been an issue with
no seriously with heat and drying out. I know, reptilians, reptiles.
I'm not going to talk about reptilians right now. I
don't know if they are, but you know, I know
they enjoyed the heat for the most part. They like
it dry, but they still need the cool stuff. And
this thing seemed to be crouched down in that alleyway,

(18:47):
you know, kind of hidden by like some upper grass
that they'd overgrown. And so I think it was the
fourteen year old who actually was there, and I'm trying
to remember, and I think it was one of the sisters.
It was the lap Balakara or something like that. She

(19:08):
said she looked into its eyes and she said immediately
she felt like connected to it, and she knew it
was scared, and it was scared the hell out of
it needed help. It was scared. The creature was definitely
afraid of the kids and everything that was going on. Yeah,
so they bugged out. But the creature is is really

(19:30):
interesting because picture of the head, why do I describe
this without very very slender It's really hard, so it's
very very slunger.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Yeah, but with a huge bobble head.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
From what they said, almost.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
The best way to describe it, the way people will
kind of see it in their heads is hopefully you
guys store so Star Wars. When Guido was in there
talking to Han Solo, it very much looked reminiscent to Guido,
but without clothing on. So it was a it was
like a triangle rounded shaped head, almost like a gray

(20:06):
alien and very slender, and it seemed that the skin
was i want to say, green, but darker and like
a like a frog, like a wet frog. And it
was it's crouched down. But the weird part is its
eyes on top of its head. First of all, are
they like these bumps coming out of the top of

(20:28):
their had almost like a crown. And some people like
to do what's the crazy stuff now? They do implants
in their brain and the underneath their skins to pop
out and make it look like okay, so picture somebody
doing that, but with like you know, different size marbles.
So it kind of like had like like spiders horns
on top, yeah, something like that, like horns are little

(20:52):
bumps coming out of the top of its head. But
the eyes were like redder than red. Yeah, And it
was very very strange and I think the problem with
this creature is red eyes are usually you know, inndictive
of a nocturnal animal. This was like three o'clock three
point thirty in broad daylight. This thing probably was way

(21:15):
out of its element. Not only just talk about you know,
being on Earth and it's from another planet or eg
system or whatever, but if you're a nocturnal animal and
you are found during the day, I mean, first of all,
it must be a bit brighter than bright. Oh yeahause
visual for this thing blinding it. And then you're injured,

(21:37):
you're hurt. You just went through a major crash. So
this thing was scared out of its wits. So it
huddled down there, clumped up weeds in the vacant lot.
And these two girls, to the two sisters, when they
they all got close and they finally saw this thing,
they got scared out of their minds and they ran.

(21:57):
But the older one was there, Tea, I believe Xavier.
She was the older one. She said that it communicated,
it needed help, like she heard it in her brain.
She heard it in her head. And people call that
telepathy the most part, you know, or they call it
mind speak. I don't like really mind speak because.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I don't either. It sounds stupid.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
No, it sounds, you know, too much like mind freak,
And I don't like that guy as a magician anyhow. Oh,
there's just a little too pretentious. But there are abilities
that these creatures, all these creatures do have these abilities
because they're using it in a heightened sense. You're using
more of your brain and you're focusing on these things,

(22:43):
and there's the ability. Everybody has this ability, by the way,
not to sidetrack you on this, but everybody has an
ability to actually speak to each other. Without speaking to
each other, you can use your brain to send the
messages there and people can hear it. Some people do
it really really well. I had a friend growing up
that did that. I was witnessing it. His mother didn't

(23:05):
say a damn word, and he's like, but yeah, i'll
be back later, and then like a second later, like
I told you, it's in the you know it, Like
you guys just had a conversation without your mom saying
anything like yeah, we do that, And I'm like, Okay,
that ain't freaking weird enough. Where are we going to? Okay,
let's go, because it just got real freaky. So basically,

(23:26):
this thing was scared. There were police involved, and the
military went into the town that they were in of
varying varyingya like Virginia or Virginia. Yeah, I don't want
to goll o Vergina. But you know there were other
people that, you know, locals have seen this, you know,
this craft that was flying around whatever. But primarily once

(23:48):
this creature was there, there were people on search and rescue,
well search and grab. Actually the military is all over it.
And then there were some officers that were involved in
uh in looking this up and getting it done. One
of the I think it was Lopez. There were two

(24:08):
officers and I'm trying to find his name.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Because well, while you find his name, I'm gonna I'm
gonna tell the the listeners what a later investigation the
explanation of the creature that.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
They saw or the aliens. This was great.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Because that is the greatest ship ever. So apparently in
town there is a mentally ill disabled man and he
has a name I can't remember his last name starts
with an M, and he's got like a hunched back
and they straight up there like, well, that that's who

(24:44):
you guys saw.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
It was.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
It was the local drunk guy who you know it
has the hunched back and uh is just the local
crazy guy who's who drinks or whatever. And the girls
are just like, no, that it's not who he saw dude. Yeah,
in their official report, which came out I believe in
twenty ten, after they did a fourteen year investigation on this,

(25:11):
and I mean even the skeptics are like, oh, yeah,
I had to have been that that homeless dude with
the hunchback, and the girls are just like, no, dude,
there is no way it was.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
It wasn't Harry. It's really specifically because the military and
album this had no clue. I mean, come on, stupid,
And when you have a guy that's a hunchback that
has like mental issues in the town, everybody knows who
you are, right absolutely, I mean you have this, Yeah,
don't go by mister Walker's house. You know, crazy that

(25:43):
guy is. You know, there's always that crazy you know
he's going to send those dogs again, and everybody's like, damn,
he's weird. Matter of fact, it's like the Sandlot, right,
Oh yeah, there's always some creepy It's it's your classic,
you know scenario for every one of these like eighties
nineties movies.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
You knows exactly you got that one house on the block.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
In the morning, but at one point, I don't know
if the creature actually moves from that location. Before we
get into that, there was also this I've read reports
that people were seeing this thing at at a hospital afterwards. Well,
we'll get into that, we'll do this. Yeah, So basically.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
What explanation for that one from the government is even
better than the crazy I'll.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
You to do that, because that was just like, oh man,
I'm like, you guys couldn't have thought of anything fucking
better than that to tell these people.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
It's like, holy shit.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Thank god, it wasn't really politically correct back then because
they just you know, it's like they didn't have an
officer of that. But so this creature darts out right. Basically,
what's happening is this creature is moving at night from
wherever it was trying to either you know, get parts
for its craft to kind of fix it, you know,
or you know, get back home save its life. And

(27:13):
it runs in front of a police officer vehicle and
there are two officers in there, and one of the
officers in the vehicle and I know this guy's name
Marco Sharezi. He gets out and he captures the creatures
with his bare hands. He grabs this creature, yes, and
the creatures just can't even I don't think it's fighting
or really.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
I don't think it's pretty weak fight back at that point.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
No, Okay, so there's two different stories here. So when
he caught it with his bare hands, right, and he
wrapped it, you know, like you know, you grab it
like a child and you're holding it and you get
into the bar. Some people said that he was scratched.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
From what I heard, it was just whatever the skin
of the creature was, like the grease or whatever like
got on his skin.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
That's that's what I read. Anyway, Yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
I only saw in one one thing that I read
that that he had gotten scratched. And I was like,
why is there only one.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Source telling me this? I mean, like, I've read it
in maybe one source, but I think it was of
like ten different sources talking about this case. There's only two,
and I think each one bit off of each other.
So I always whit all that out. You know, if
everybody said or the majority said, you know, he was scratched,
then I would lean that direction, but I think it

(28:29):
was more. But I think it was more of the
fact that there must have been something toxic on this
on the creature or it was oozing or coming off.
Now we have now in Florida, everybody knows about them.
I mean the people had. They have toxic toads down
here and frogs, and when you squeeze them, they hurt
this white type of liquid and it's very poisonous. But

(28:52):
the kids down here like to lick the frogs.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
And what I was gonna ask, dude, because you trip
your balls up when you lick those.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
You do, so there was a there was a pandemic
of frog licking down here in Florida. They don't do
it anymore. I think they learn their less. But yeah,
you would squeeze the frog. Actually, indigenous people do these
things because they use it for their vision quests and
and for ceremonies. It was like peyote or whatever. But
I think what happened was, you know, you take too

(29:24):
much of that, it's going to kill you, okay, and
something very interesting about it. I'm gonna I'm gonna switch
switch gears, but it's in the same genre here. There
are gray extraterrestrials out there, the little grays. There's a
bunch of different grays, and the grays are the worker bees. Okay,
they're biological entities, which are basically clones that we know

(29:45):
how to create, and they're the ones that go and
do things. And I gotta be honest, the majority of them,
I think I may have talked about this before. Their
IQ is probably no higher than eighty. They're not that bright,
but they know what they have to do as far
as like you know, move that, put that, get that
person whatever. They're really responsible for a lot of crashes
because they do maintain control of the crafts when they're here.

(30:09):
That's from a couple of interviews with people that have
been doing researchers and we've kind of deduced that these
are the ubertness of the galaxy. Okay, that's basically what
it is. So but one of the things is the
United States government they won't admit to it, but it's
kind of if you do enough research, they have the ability.
They've been doing reverse engineering for UFOs since we got

(30:33):
the ross right and then we made an agreement with extraterrestrials.
Yes we did, where they're gonna give us some engine
you know, technology, and then we're going to allow uh
the ets to abduct but not go crazy for their research.
There was a mutual treaty I think it was with Eisenhower.
And again, what I'm saying here is rumor to happen,

(30:55):
although there are certain things. You know, even Eisenhower's granddaughter
talked about it and she said, yeah, he told me
about it, and why the hell would she make it up?
But what happens is some of these ebes extraterrestrial biological
entities worker bees that we can now clone and create
and work with us, and we manufacture them, they escape

(31:17):
and they go off the reservation. It's usually one of
the byproducts is cattle mutilations, but some of the byproducts
are human mutilations, so they have a taste for flesh
and certain parts of the flesh. When you talk about
cattle mutilations, you're talking about surgically removing sex organs and

(31:37):
body parts, all the blood, all the fluids, and the
same thing that happens to the cattles with eye sockets
being removed and vaginal areas remove or genitalia and some
other stuff happens to humans as well, the way grays eat.
They don't eat and put it in their mouths. What
they do is they rub it on the exterior of

(31:58):
their skins, of their own and their body parts, and
it gets absorbed through the pores. That's how they consume it.
And I think, what happened here this extraterrestrial I think
it's partially reptilian based, you know, and there are varieties
of different reptilians, some that look like dinosaurs, some that

(32:19):
look like this, which is humanoid but with bumps on
a little bit more like some of the lizards that
you would get that have the horns that come out.
I think as it's injured, it's oozing some of this
liquid that you would get from a frog or the
poisoned toads or whatever. And that's what killed Marco the
police officer, because he died, yeah, pretty quick after he

(32:43):
yeah he did.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
I mean, it's one theory out there, and I've only
heard this one place. One rogue theory I guess I
should call it, is that he was actually killed off
by the government because he was willing to cooperate with
the story or the narrative that they were trying to push.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
I can see that happening, I could see, but that
was one of those situations where it's like I only
read that in a couple spots out of ten, you know,
So it's it's.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Kind of like, well, and I don't know because when
they took when they took what's his face to the hospital,
the entire wing of that hospital was shut down because
of the smell. And the smell was the same smell
that they smelled when the craft crashed.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
So I don't know. Oh yeah, I don't know. I
mean even when they reported when when he was before
he was, I think he succumb to his injuries where
he got sick, He went home, he tried washing this off,
he tried taking it off. Its smell, it's stunk worse
and worse and worse every day, and I think it

(33:54):
was engulfing him and he was being poisoned by it.
I like the theory about the government getting rid of
him killing him, but I think I think the powers
that be being the US military that is involved in
grabbing this creature, and you know, playing the heavy for
the Brazilian military, who they weren't up to the match

(34:15):
against the US. They knew it. Yeah, it's a great
way that if this guy dies and it purposely slips
out like you know, if you talk, we're going to
kill you, yeah, or we're gonna take you know, we
kill him because we're afraid of he's going to talk.
Then once the guy dies, knowing that he's gonna die
because he's been poisoned by touching this creature, everybody else
will shut up. Yeah, I was I was told the

(34:38):
story from a friend from one of my good friends
who has a lot of friends in that that did
work or grew up in Vietnam doing stuff for a
three lettered agencies, and one of the guys was a
he was an interrogator for the US government. What they
do is he goes, if you want to get information,
you take three via Kong and they put him into

(34:59):
one of these helicopter and they fly him all the
way up and they hover over over the jungle like
a couple hundred feet right, thousand feet up or whatever.
Dowords open mind, and they asked the guy, what are
you objectives? What is the mission? Blah blah blah, you know,
all these questions, and the guy doesn't say a word.
To the guy, they pick him up and they throw
him out the helicopter. So now they get to the

(35:20):
second guy and they're like, listen, I want to know
where you're going, what your objectives? Right, So that's how
they did it. Man. Yeah, so he you know, the
second guy is whether he doesn't know it, or he
doesn't understand the English or whatever, doesn't speak, he goes
out of the helicopter. He goes. By the time you
get to the third guy, the guy's telling you everything
you want to know. Yep. Well this is what they

(35:41):
said to him, and it's kind of fucked up. My
friend said, well, what do you do with him after
he tells you? Do you take him? Does he take
you there? No, we throw him out of the helicopter. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
I had a buddy who was I used to work
with who was a long range patrol and did recon
in Vietnam, and he was there was a five man
team and they would drop him off in the middle
of the jungle and they did recon and met up
with a platoon after like two weeks out in the
jungle and when they would catch VC. One of the
guys on his team was the interrogator, and they did

(36:12):
basically the same thing. And he said that the interrogator
was a full blooded Native American. I can't remember what
tribes specifically, but he's like that dude had no problem.
He went through him, except he used used knives.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Well yeah, so yeah, I get it.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
I know, I know someone who's uh a Native American.
He's a good friend. He's a really great guy. He
was in the Beirut bombing. He arrested the warlord in
Somalia in the opening of Black Hawk Down. My friend
is the guy that arrested that guy in real life.
And his job is basically like that, you know, to leave,

(36:56):
you gets to sign something. If I can help you, honey,
you know, or if I can call it, well, but
probably can't, so I'll see soon. And then he comes back, nicest,
quittest guy, Hey, what's up? You know? But if he
if he can tell you all the stuff that he
was doing, you would probably be just dumbfounded the fact
that I would.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Say it was the guy doing it.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Well, yeah, he's doing it. But it's like, there's a
lot of evil in this world, folks, okay, And we
have people in places that do things for to keep
people safe. They're tasked with doing things that most human
beings wouldn't even think about doing. And they're good with it,

(37:39):
and it's just their bread a different way, you know.
And I don't hold anything rudgs towards them whatever. It's
just the way it is, you know, And it's unfortunate.
And these people are just really sweet and great, wonderful people.
But all's fair in love and war, right, which is weird.

(37:59):
So you know, Marco the Top dying after a while,
and he went to the hospital and they closed the wing,
like you said, because the whole thing stunk. Because I
think what was happening was it was getting I think
it was changing him internally, I would a poison and
then almost like he was succumbing to becoming this creature

(38:22):
or something of this creature. I don't know how to
drive it better than that, you know, not to say
that he's going to turn into an extraterrestrial, but I
think that just it was just eating away at at
his biology. And mind you, this guy wasn't I didn't
even tell this that his wife that he was buried
or whatever, do anything until like weeks later. You know,

(38:45):
she wasn't allowed to do anything. The body wasn't released. Yeah,
they said that the body was cremated. I believe cremated
them buried something to that effect. But I have a fear,
I have a theory that Marco wasn't he made it.
I think they took the body back to the US studiably.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yeah, to study it, of course.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yeah, because I mean that's that's some major league. I mean,
you're talking about black projects in the US, and they're
primarily for power and superior over other people in war.
So anything like that that could kill people that quickly,
they're definitely going to study it and figure out how
they can militariize it. Oh yeah, you know, which is

(39:28):
really sick, but that's what people do.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
So they said that one of the creatures ended up
at the hospital too, right, the witnesses. I'm going to
lighten the food and tell you guys this story. So
all the all these witnesses at the hospital who claimed
to have seen this creature extraterrestrial at the hospital, and
this was legit and a closed downside of the hospital.

(39:56):
And part of that reason was because of the smell,
and then the other part was because obviously, you know,
can't just have any random nurse trying to, you know,
take pictures of an alien or whatever. But they told
the witnesses and the official report in twenty ten, they
told the witnesses that what they saw was a couple

(40:18):
that was expecting a child and they were about to
be in childbirth, and the couple suffered from dwarfism and
that's what they saw.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Yeah, you know, dude.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
When I read that shit, I was like, do you
guys honestly expect people to believe this shit? And the
best part is the skeptics are like, yeah, that's exactly
what happened. To think that a bunch of people in
Brazil as if their eyewitness testimonies mean less than anybody else's,

(40:54):
you know, they're like, oh, these idiots didn't didn't fucking
see anything. There's no way it was a couple that
was expecting a child, but this couple suffered from dwarf ism,
that's what they saw.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
No fucking way, man.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
No fucking way.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
How do you explain the smell? Then they still didn't even.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Explained the smell.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Thinking the report, I could not believe that ship.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
I'm like, you guys, don't honestly expect anybody to believe this,
But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Some people took it and ran third world country.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
And dude, that's the That's the kicker too, is I
had no idea that Brazil had so many sightings.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
I was to this man.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
I was listening to Micah Hanks and he was talking
about he went down there to do a story on
this particular case, and within the first day he says, oh,
I saw probably two or three things that we just
couldn't explain. And the locals are it's like, oh, yeah,
we we see this shit all the time.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
And he's like, what is it. They're like, we don't know, man,
it's we.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Just see this weird shit all the time.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
And he just couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
He's like, I was down there one day, man, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
I mean, first of all, Brazil is huge, okay, you know,
and and there's.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
In this particular area.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Yeah, but you know, then you get into Chile and
then you get into Peru. Remember all those NASCAR lines
that down there. They've been coming and going throughout South
America or Millennia. Down there, these crafts and they're sighted
on a daily basis because they think what I think,

(42:45):
what happened. If you go back and you start peeling
back some of the jungles. Right, then what's gonna happen
is you're gonna start seeing former civilizations that existed in
structures and these craft and these creatures. Extraterrestrial species know
that they existed, so they keep going there to see
what the heck's going on, almost like an experimentation or observation.

(43:09):
So that's why there's a ton of craft, you know,
because this used to be a lot a heavier concentration
of individuals down there. Yeah, but yeah, Brazil is a
is a pretty whacked out place, although I'd like to go.
But as far as the other police officer that was
with what's his name, Marco Cherez, that guy disappeared, He

(43:29):
took off and actually he to this day will kill
you if you come near him. You will not discuss
this with anybody. And they do find him in the movie.
In Fox's documentary, it's very interesting. The guy literally said,
I'm going to shoot you, get the hell off my property.

(43:50):
And he's been in hiding since this incident since nineteen
ninety what the heck was it six? This guy's been
hiding since that time. He is so scared of what's
transpired in what's going to take place he will not
talk to anybody. He saw old and I'm sure that's
when you said that they threatened him. I'm sure he

(44:12):
got threatened, and once his partner died, he's like, I'm
not saying a freaking word. I'm out of here. You know.
That's the other the Sussa guy. All the people that
are involved in this, the parents of the two girls,
the family of the twenty one year old that was
left there with the creature, both the police officers. I

(44:34):
am sure every person at the hospital, anybody involved in this.
I know that the families were paid visits by what
you classify the men in black.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Yeah, they said.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
These very tall individuals wearing black suits, you know, sunglasses
that kind of didn't have the right eyes. There was
something weird about him. Offered them money to shut up
and not say word. Don't say anything. You know, you
can be very rich down here, which probably would have
been like, you know, a couple of grand for Oh. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
I heard one person was approached and when they were approached,
it was a black vehicle with no plates on it,
and it was two supposed men in black by description,
by their description, but they were threatened. They came up
to them, and they said what they their whole calling

(45:30):
card is. They'll just walk up and they'll start naming
off all your family members and where they live, like, hey,
I know about your two kids, you know so and
so and their ages. I know about your wife so
and so and her age. And they start naming off
family members, their ages, where they live, and they're like,
if you know what is good for you, shut up

(45:54):
or take this money, you know, or whatever the.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Case might be. Usually in the third world country money,
it would work faster for people absolutely because in Latin
American in the culture, they're usually very large families. Oh
hell yeah, I'll tell you that. They don't take kindly
to be threatened.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
No, they might not fuck around Briant.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Yeah, that plenty of they. You know. It's like my
third cousin from blah blah blah. I'm like, so, what
are you doing, yo, We're going to his house where
he kicks. I'm like, he lives in California. Yeah, no
message family, man, I'm like, okay. Cool. In many ways,

(46:44):
that's kind of like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
They don't give a fuck, dude, they don't give a fuck.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
They don't care.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Down in Brazil, I could see it being like some
fucking game member and then like the men in black
come up and threaten them, right, and within five fucking seconds,
like twenty dudes come out of like just several hiding
like one behind an alleyway, another one pops up behind
a dumper. Shit, and yeah, they just got oozzies, man,

(47:12):
and they're like, you threatening my fucking cousin. That's my
third cousin, man.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Yeah, oh yeah, everybody's cousin ever fair, so you know.
So that's why I think the money would have worked.
But it's very weird. These people didn't want to say
anything that they just stopped. And the problem they had
was and no one really talked about this for a
very long time, very very long time, because people were

(47:38):
genuinely scared, you know, And of course the parents of
the younger kids are gonna be like, nope, they don't
know anything. They didn't say anything. They may not have
liked it was the dwarf child from whatever you know, right.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
That shit still fucking kills me.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Man.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
It took them fourteen years to come up with that
fucking story.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Dude. It's like, come on, the dwarf in the hospital
and the hunchback of yanya, whatever the hell it is. Yeah, yeah,
that is just rich. But one of the reasons why
the girls were adding it about it and the parents
knew is because on the other end of that spectrum
of like, yeah, family will protect family. You mess around

(48:19):
in Latin Latin houses and you lie to mom or dad,
Yeah it's gonna hurt. Yeah, get yeah, I'm sure they go. Yeah,
they don't. They don't munk it around. It's it's like,
you know, give.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Me yeah, And actually I heard.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
I heard about one person, one witness, becoming pregnant that
she claimed was by an extraterrestrial When this happened, I
honestly did not have enough time to don't dig into
that any further.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
I don't know. I didn't dig into it because it
just it's that's like a weekly world news type of
you know, I had baby, and I just didn't. It
didn't vibe because we know about the police officer. So
how are you gonna have sex with something and not
died Because the guy died from the slime that's coming
off says that that woman must have smelled like crap

(49:09):
for the rest of.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
The horrible dude, And here's the deal. My whole thing
was Okay, there's this fucking alien and he's dying, and
he's like, Okay, I need to fuck somebody or impregnate
them real quick before I die. He didn't have energy, man,
you know, he doesn't for all that. He's just trying
to live, dude.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
You know, he just.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Wants a cool and a beer and like, I'm gonna
drop now. I'm just I mean, yeah, no, it doesn't
make sense.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
It doesn't jive with the rest of the story.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
I mean it jives for a great porn video. Oh absolutely,
that would be one of those those good ones. I
used to watch like a Manuel and skin them ax, dude.
I remember that show Man was awesome.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
She was fucking hot, dude. But those stories were so
fucking weird.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
They were weird, but they were good. Yeah, there was
a storyline.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
But then you had Marylynd Chambers too, you know, back
in the day like her. Hers all had like storylines
and ship but Emmanuel was just like a whole sci
fi thriller, you know.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yeah, but not Aliens.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
I mean basically, yeah, man, And when I'm ten, I'm like,
this is fucking awesome.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
I'm gonna watch any hell yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Oh and then I'd watched Tales from the Crypt right
after that.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah, well too. But you know, I just didn't buy
the pregnancy thing. I mean, it would be great for
the weekly World News, and I think that's where it
literally came out of. You know, I think he came
news type of thing. Yeah, pretty bizarre because, oh, my
dad used to be in the paparazzi. So he's the
guys that sent out the cameras, all the paparazzi guys.

(50:55):
That's what he did for WY World Photos. And he
knew the guys that ran and operated a weekly World News.
A couple of guys in the office in his office
actually submitted some of those stories there, like scandalous, really weird.
I had the turtle's baby or stuff like that. Crazy stuff.
Elvis and I'm the son of Elvis.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Oh hell yeah, man or Elvis is a preacher in
a church down in Texas.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
I mean, I sent the picture of the guy.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
He looks like him. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
He really does look like him, Yeah, he does, doesn't me.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Yeah, But I can remember the National Inquiry because my
grandma used to read that ship when I was like
a kid man, and she would always have one. I
think she was just for entertainment or whatever. But and
my grandpa would read him while he's on the shitter, you.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Know, and like yeah, exactly, you know, yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
He's like, oh, man, Elvis is working at a Burger
king in Michigan. This is crazy.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
It's like going on, Oh my god. Not Elvis actually
went into home depot down here at one time, and
this guy looked that he had those I was gonna
say that it looked like the thick Elvis glasses. He
had the cyeburns and the hairback, and I'm looking like,
no way, that's.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
The King and there's no way, you know, like whatever.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
I was like, I gotta go up to ask him, like, hey,
you want to join me some Fribe banana sandwich.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Oh god, dude, he ate the fuck out of those things.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Man, I've never had one of those, but it sounds
pretty damn good.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
It sounds really good. But I mean, those things are
like a thousand or three thousand calories of peace apparently,
And I mean it fits with what I mean. I
did an episode on his death and shit like that,
and I mean his final couple years, Oh my god,
he was eating up to like sixteen to eighteen pills
a day, fucking just the worst fried, fucking foods you

(52:51):
could ever imagine. And it's like, even if he was
alive after his supposed death, dude, there is no fucking
way he lasted that long. There is no way.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Maybe you know what, stranger things have happened. I'll just
leave it.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
At that's true.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Oh yeah, I mean the sidetrack.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Us from uh yeah, so the whole alien pregnancy thing. Basically,
I'm not on board with it. Brian's not on board
with it.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
I just don't see it.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
But it's always brought up when you go to look
into this ship.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Well, the alien pregnancy would have the trombones. Sorry, not
buying it.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Sounds that's perfect they did.

Speaker 5 (53:38):
I'm using my road to do this, but h so,
go ahead, Oh no, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
I was just gonna go back. I mean, other than
what's going on, there was there's a couple of people
that that have come forward for the film purpose, but
you know, weren't really interviewed other than until they were
doing the documentary down there. I guess they were too
scared to step forward. But there were a couple of
whistleblowers or military based individuals that that were came forward

(54:13):
and said that they were the ones or this one guy, well,
they called the military X. He said that he was
the one that transported the body of the creature from
the hospital to the army base. So I'm sure, and
and he described it. He said that they went into
a different area of the hospital. The whole wing was
closed off. He said there were a lot of people

(54:35):
within that room area where the body was stored. It
was in like a metal casket type of thing. He
definitely saw it. He said that the creature's skin was
like you know, it's oily and greasy. He used the
term silicone at one point, and you can get poisoned
big time from sera silicon. The silicone poisoning is not

(54:56):
a joke. A lot of people that you know using
work manufacturing for cork or silicone based stuff. A lot
of times you have to wear gloves when they're processing
this stuff because it is really really toxics. It's bad
for your skin, and it's that kind of oily and
if it gets on your skin, it gets in your body,
then you get your poisoned. Even though he's a whistle already,
he's hiding behind anonymity. He's revealing a lot of truth

(55:20):
to what he's saying for the most part. But he
was the one you mentioned seeing the creature's foot and
it looked like a V shaped foot, So picture a V.
Put your hands out, put your palms to the back,
and spread your fingers out like a V. And he
said that there was meat there, but it's only like
two toes, so kind of like picture Duck's foot or

(55:43):
something like that.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
That's what I had heard too, And the same thing
I heard about, like the fingers. There were like three fingers, yeah,
or something, but he was.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Like one was long elongiated, your typical, your atypical alien
of the body. Snatch your finger. That's what I was.
That's the image I got when I heard about the fingers,
you know, the three try finger thing, which was pretty interesting.
There's a couple of people the US Air Force was
the ones they landed. Didn't even freaking announce themselves. They
just like PLoP down the boom, which is we're here,

(56:12):
and outrolled a ton of a ton of equipment in there,
I think one transport plane and they had everything. They
had helicopters, they had transport vehicles. They were the ones
that came to the base and collected the casket. The
casket was like a stainless steel, so they collected that
and I think more and then it was gone. They

(56:33):
took it. They took that away. So there are people
that are coming forward now. I think what was great
about Fox's is documentary is he got other people involved
in it that were I guess significant, were enough importance
and were formerly in the military, you know, like he
got an Air Force general, Air Force and army generals

(56:55):
to discuss it and said, you know, there's a lot
of stuff that they're hiding about this investigation, and don't
this is really significant because as Fox stated in here,
and he said, it blew him away because when Marco died,
that police officer died grabbing this creature, and the other guy,
I forgot his name, he saw this creature and there

(57:18):
must have been some kind of interaction or something taking place.
If you get if you're gonna grab something, it's going
to be some kind of struggle, even if you're tired,
you're going to put that last bit of adrenaline into
the thing, right, So something must have transpired in that
freaking moment in that car and on the way to
the hospital and on the way to all these places.
Some information must have been transmitted somehow. And I don't

(57:42):
think it's just that they threatened the other police over
oh well, you know, we're gonna kill everybody. I think
something scared to crap out of this cup. Also, besides
just the threat on his life, like he's literally the
only person he was in the same vehicle with this creature.
This doesn't that belong on this planet. This is how

(58:02):
amazing this is. This is one of the most monumental
cases ever. Yeah, Roswell's up there, don't get me wrong,
although you know that's all Stan Friedman, you know, talked
Aboutwell who you know you're gonna say other than that,
this is really big because there's civilians seeing this, non
military civilians are seeing this.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
They have nothing to gain by making this ship up.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
And to this day there's still you know, there's still
UFOs that tons of UFOL activity over over South America.
We discussed it. There are tons of cases of UFO sightings.
There's actually a lot of the sightings that I'm hearing
about right now are taking place and towards the Southern Hemisphere.
Two weeks ago, I literally went outside my house and

(58:50):
I stay up late because it just can't sleep. Look
up and I'm looking to the western sky and I
see what looks like Jupiter, you know, it's pretty bright
up there. And then I see another thing it's below it,
and I thought, oh, maybe it's like a plane come
in my way. But there was something familiar about it
because I heard this high pitch sound. I looked, and
it's there, and it's and it's changing red, orange, green, blue,

(59:12):
purple first and it's changing colors. It's getting it coming
closer towards us, just underneath. So I'd say it would
be thirty degrees up in the sky if you're standing, okay,
And I'm looking at this thing and it's coming closer
and closer, and it's still it looks a little bit
bigger than like a planet would be, so it's not
as big as Jupiter in the night sky, which it
looks like a Jubra, looks like the North Star. It's

(59:33):
like being you can't you can't miss it. Yeah, Jupiter,
Mars Venus pretty bright. Some of them twinkle and this
has started to twinkle like that, but it's not in
the right spot because I'm you know I'm checking. I
did study astronomy, but as a backup I do check
these things out with some apps that I have and
I don't remember all my store maps. Sorry. I have
a thing called a life if I was studying and

(59:58):
I was an ascrophysicist, yea, I know. I'm like, oh,
that's I'll be on that, you know whatever, And it
changed you call a red arm dream, purple blue purse,
and then it starts doing this really weird thing. The
best way I can say is, if you've ever had
a hula hoop or a hubcap or a quarter, you
flip the quarter or you spun a quarter on the table,
and as it kind of like stops spinning, it slowly

(01:00:21):
comes to rest and it wobbles, you know what I'm saying.
And you see it, it looks almost like an X
shape type of thing. And this thing started doing a
little bit of that. And it's at a distance, but
you can see that the light was a little bit
of a ring around it, and it was dipped down
to the left and then it would pop up to
the right and then get down to the right and
then pop up to the left. That's what it was doing.

(01:00:43):
And I'm like, holy crap. And I try to like
take out my phone and I have the Apple phone,
and I'm like, this camera is useless. It's almost as
good as you know, like Stevie, go out there and
get those Stevie, want to go take some pictures over there.
They did that with so nothing's kind up there, and
I'm like, holy crap. I don't even know where I
put my night vision. I have like a scope pulled

(01:01:06):
the psionic that I would use for a night vision.
I could have I could have recorded it, but I
was in the moment and I was I think it
was purposely there to see this, and I was afraid
that if I ran away to go get my equipment,
I'd come back and be gone. And all I did
at one point is I turned to you know, put
my cigarette, and I literally two seconds I turned back,

(01:01:27):
it was gone. My wife, she doesn't believe in UFOs
or aliens or any of that. We had. We had
something way back in the nineties in northwestern Connecticut. It
flew over a car I was doing about seventy miles
an hour on this route eight and Worth, and it
was awesome. It was just one great fricking UFO sighting

(01:01:48):
and experience, and I should have pulled over, but I
think something told me, dope, pull over. This thing was
about the size of a giant stadium flying over my car.
And she literally like stood out of my moon roof
and she's like, what this And you can see how
dark blacker than black it is. It was like gun
metal black. If you weren't looking for this thing, there's

(01:02:09):
no way in hell you would have noticed it. Because
it started out as one of those radio towers. You well,
I don't know, I know where you live, but you
give U see radio towers the tall yeah, have red lights,
usually so many feet right and they blank boom, boom boom.
That's what it started out in the distance. I said, oh,
those are She's like, what is that? So what are
you talking about? That? Those are radio towers? And then

(01:02:31):
it started tilting like this and I'm like, oh, this
is getting good. And I went like this and then
it started heading towards us and it wasn't a radio tower.
And I'll tell you what that radio tower is at least,
and it's one of the largest ones in Connecticut. And
I think it was almost like three quarters a mile long.
I think that was the size of it. I try
to look it up. This thing was huge coming over

(01:02:53):
our car. It didn't make a freaking sound whatsoever. And
in an instant I got distracted with another car and
the other into the road. I looked for split second,
I looked back up. It was gone. It jammed on
the brakes in this highway and I got out of
my car. It was a July fourth weekend, and I
looked and I'm like, where the hell did this thing go?
So that's the sightings are just are piling up in

(01:03:15):
South America, so I think, yeah, more so than other
places in the country or in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Oh definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
You know, it's a hotbed right now, which is crazy
to think about.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Well, sometimes, you know, investigating these things, when you have
UFO sightings throughout the world, and you have these I
call them constellation sightings, a lot of them during the
day and you're looking up and you see this dot
pop up, and then another dot, and then another dot
and another dot. It looks like a constellation during daylight.

(01:03:46):
That's what it looks like. Let's say stars. And nine
out of ten times when those start appearing, a disaster
happens in the air. They're appearing. They usually appear during
fault lines, volcanoes, tsunamis, severe weather, hurricanes, tornadoes. They're there
and it's almost as they know it's going to take

(01:04:06):
place and they want to witness it, bear witness to it,
you know. Wow. So oh, I think something is ramping
up down for South America. I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
We will find out sooner than later more likely then.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Hold on, we will just I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Now you're good. So Brian, please tell people where they
can find you and listen to the content that you
put out along with any other stuff you want to promote.
I think you have a new project coming out.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Am I wrong and saying that?

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Yeah, I've been I've been trying to do this for
a while with a friend of mine. She's had some issues.
We have a new my show and you can listen
to them this there's some good stuff there and content.
I'm going to be putting my own content on it again,
just to you know things that thoughts is on inside
the Goblin Universe, and in there is the show inside
the Goblin Universe with me and Murphy. There's my other

(01:05:01):
show no bo Boomy, which stands for nobody but me
for that, and then I have other shows that I
do stuff for the groups that I'm associated with, Bronxville
Paranormal Society, New York State UFO Project, New York State
DOGMN Projects, New York State Sasquatch Organization. I'm also part
of co director of the North American Dogmin Project. Move on,

(01:05:21):
I'm a remote viewer. I'm on every social platform.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Remote viewing is going to be the next topic I
bring you on for. By the way, we're going to
do some experiments.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
That's fine with me. We're gonna do some experiments, and
I'll tell you what your listeners will be able to
do the same experiment because even though they're listening on
the podcast, don't cheat, don't go forward and try to
figure out what the hell it is. You can still
under the information. You know, focus on what I'm saying.
You know, when I tell you to focus and meditate,
you're going to do that and then start drawing out

(01:05:53):
what your impressions are, because impressions also exist. It doesn't
have to be a live thing right then and there.
You can be picking up what was in the envelope.
So but I'm everywhere. If you if you have any questions,
I hop on Facebook every once a while. Brian Embowden,
you can message me and if you do, tell me
you know you heard me on the circumstances and give

(01:06:15):
just and some props so I know where the hell
you're coming from. You're not some freaky dwarf giving birth
in the hospital or.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Shit.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
You know. Yeah, so yeah, I don't want to take
any more time, but ye to me, continued justin.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
Yes, absolutely, and I appreciate you coming on as always.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Man, you got a brother. I appreciate you having me
on and it was fun again.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
I will talk to you later, man, got it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Stay safe, yep you but