April 9, 2024 • 23 mins
Irse de viaje mola mucho, pero organizarlo? Tortura china. En este podcast queremos destacar el rol de la persona organizadora (trabajo no remunerado) que esta muy infravalorado por el resto del grupo y que de ella depende la diversión de "tot el món". Puede ser que también nos hayamos perdido entre las diferencias de viajar e irse de vacaciones y lo sobrevalorada que esta Francia xd...
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A two, three very good toall. We' re here one more
day and today we' re goingto talk about organizing trips. We want
to focus this topic on the factnot of organizing trips as such, but
the people who organize trips versus thepeople who give populo. Indeed, I
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organize trips and I organize trips onorganize trips. Already, I wish you
had been clear, but I thinknot, that is to say, all
topics precisely now to organize what Iorganized most trips before. And now,
because of the trauma of organizing atrip with more than four people, I
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' ve decided to move a littlebit into the background. What happens is
that my controlling personality and honorable manipurcan sometimes not manage the fact that it
is other people who organize they donot have to attract and what they do
not, but Ana and I itis true that we have been doing many
tocho trips that is not a weekendMadrid or to Puta and the more without
deserving the people that make this kindof trips. But it' s true
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that you notice a lot, becausein the end our first trips that we
may have done alone, which havebeen Europe, London, for a weekend.
Oh that I like good if youmake a mistake, because nothing happens
either, but the moment you jumpon trips much more everything clear, of
course, is more, yes,alone above all, but complicated, because
there are trips that have been longbut quite easy and trips that are complicated.
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And we, for me, theexample of organized journey to the millimeter
is Iceland. Yeah, it wasmore, it' s that we split
up because we said or we splitup, or it' s that we
' re gonna end up bad,or it' s kind of thin that
we' ve had more because Ithink there were just four of us,
but the more we were going toput all, a lot of us,
but we knew we were getting organizedor we weren' t going to get
out. Not since or all ofa sudden. Or you take a bad
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rub and you' re stuck inthe snow. Either you take one and
you might know that it' sa complicated trip, that it' s
not nature, you know I don' t know, and that the bitch
is that many of the coolest orcoolest or most amazing trips you can make
require quite a lot of organization priorto the trip and there are people that
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all they like is bizum money andplants at the airport and it' s
already there, they don' tunderstand laughs. I would very much like
those people who don' t organizetravel and a video doesn' t say
a point or organize a trip,okay because or people who haven' t
organized in their life. Then,then, at least shut up you know
don' t bother. It's just like that. The same thing
I' m outraged about because we' ve found both you and I situations
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And to say to me is thatI like it a lot, maybe I
' m going to be sorry tosomeone, but to bite your tongue and
say fuck, at least to doit you know, do it you look
at it the effort and how complicatedit is. And then you' ll
criticize me or you' ll makesome comment on yours, but it'
s just a lot of nose-fucking. That' s what people who
usually criticize are the ones who havenever organized a trip. Nothing then and
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besides that I mean, I thinkit' s the first rule that he
doesn' t do anything applied toevery fucking thing in life. If you
do anything to yourself, shut upand if you don' t clean the
house, shut up, if youdon' t cook, don' t
pynes, if you haven' tarranged the trip, go and be quiet.
But besides, it is also truethat I think this dilemma comes when
the number of people going on atrip is very high, because I think
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that in the middle of a tripmany times three four people. The process
of organizing is even fun, becauseyou' re sure I' m cool
to get to see Villa well.Besides, you spend it and I enjoy
it a lot in plan to chooseto go well Bis and places to sleep
I love flights as well. Butbecause I also have a little bit of
that superiority complex of thinking that I' m going to choose the best and
the best option and the cheapest,because you don' t know how to
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delegate also the best in that regard. Then it' s a lot harder
for me to delegate. But oneof the trips in question that made me
click mostly on saying I' mup to my pussy and I have to
talk about this because it' ssomething that I think suffers a lot of
people. It was a road tripI made in Australia. Traveling through Australia
is very complicated, that is tosay, it' s not a there
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I get carried away because everything isvery expensive. He can' t let
you go. And on top ofa rock trip and we were ten people
is that I never believe I've made travel so many people, ten
people Also, it' s atrip that you have to not to the
millimeter. But if you want todo things very tochas by subject of availability,
if you do not organize it beforeand not that it is at least
mine, because I also as ahalf, growing up, I like very
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much more the things that are flowingyes, in Thailand, I enjoy it
a lot because we literally went tothe day, that is, we chose
the flights from Madrid to Thailand andfrom Thailand Madrid, but then every day,
day by day, we welcomed thehotels. I would say that to
me it gives me a peace ofmind, because honestly, you' re
tasteful in a place you take andyou stay more exact time. But on
this trip you did have to organizeeverything yes or yes, and being ten
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people, I was already fully awarethat of those ten people and they were
going to be involved the ones Itell you. But it' s just
that, besides, it' snot effective or productive for ten people to
start thinking, because that' sfucking cao, because people don' t
agree. And in fact, thattrip came out because x people said from
such a fect to such a date. We' ll go if anyone gets
along, I' ll get along, and in one, because that'
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s another, we' ll alsotalk about choosing the fucking dates and agreeing
with all your fucking friends to dosomething that' s people is more egg
than a question. What happened onthat trip is that it was arranged between
me and a couple more people.We did a drive and I remember passing
the three and saying hear each onesay they want to change something. It
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gives me shit people for laziness andnot to investigate. He doesn' t
look at anything anymore, but thequestion isn' t that in general.
It is true that no one came, complained, yes, plan they threw
because what was there. But whatI did, which I said to myself
is I organize the trip before it' s okay. But the moment I
set foot on that trip, I' m not going to organize a fucking
shit because I' m not goingto embitter the trip and make the motto.
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That' s the one that doesn' t apply it to everyone.
Uh, and arrange a trip duringthe trip, sort of, be like
the guide. It' s aburden that we' re going to.
It' s nobody' s andI remember reading him my performances and I
said I' m not going todo anything. I want to enjoy myself,
I let myself go and then Ibecame the ants, I mean,
I became those who fuck up,while another person is trying to guide the
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herd and it' s just thatI realized from outside how fucked up the
position is that I was guiding,something that tap you repeating and repeating come
on Yes, so far we haveto do this. I put it on,
they had guns put them on.I don' t know we didn
' t make it, yeah,and that, Uncle, during a trip
is one thing you say, hey. I' m not a camp monitor.
I' m here traveling with myfriends and it' s just that,
Uncle, it' s a fuckinglow- key, that is,
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organizing a trip of a lot ofpeople, it' s an unpaid fucking
job. Like you would have tovalue that position much more and invite to
dinner, even if it' sthe person who does, because it literally
has no reward and it' shard to look for example, speaking now,
I' ve recently gone on afairly long trip and it kind of
required a lot of organization. I' ve been to Thailand. What happens
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that my sister and I have beenthe one who arranged the trip. I
already had experience organizing and so didmy sister. What happened that my parents
both had always arranged for the trips. What happens that this year we are
already older, have already delegated andclear my sister and that we said we
organize it because thus we save allthe costs that collect agency And so and
says that I like it because itcan be to choose you how they are
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super cool And such is my father, really of the two is the one
that has always organized the most.My mother gave it all the same.
What happens on this trip that myfather as a good organizer. In the
past she hasn' t complained aboutanything and my mother, who' s
not used to organizing trips and organizingthis kind of you might know how to
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organize other things. But the travelissue isn' t the one that gets
the most out of it, onthe pure side, Mom, I love
you, but it' s trueand it' s like you' ve
never organized a trip. Mom,don' t complain, you know,
and I left it to her,and my sister and I were looking at
each other, man, we're not gonna say anything because we'
re on a family trip and it' s all happy. But it'
s true, and then this isreflection, because sometimes, until you live
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in any situation of life, youdon' t live what it is,
you don' t know many timeswhat it entails. Not this literal that
people who think that organizing a tripis ah well no or things well,
well, it is not such thatyou say that you look at many things
and that you have done things andthat on top of that after people do
not complain that the budget enters intothe whole world, that everyone can say.
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Hey, well, I' dlike to see it is also I
like to see the parrot and thenthere' s the Torrah that said there
I like a thing that is fifty- eight kilometers from laputation and we don
' t give a shit, becauseyou have to deal with those things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, withpeople who don' t think meaningfully like
a rational one. But it's also come to me because of what
Thailand and your mother have done complainingabout leaving you, I know that maybe
it has nothing to do with whathas come to your mind the most,
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which is that the other day itcame out a little very good, which
was the difference between that you liketo travel and that you like to go
on vacation. Yes, it's very different. It' s very
different. It' s the thingI' ve never thought about and I
' ve noticed the part is thatI like to travel and I like to
go on average vacation, but thereare people who just like that holiday.
And if on vacation, it's not traveling, it' s not
planting a backpack, taking eleven-hour trains, but they' re do.
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I think when you travel, thenyou need some. You haven'
t heard this, then I needa vacation vacation time BN is that it
' s literally traveling. That's what I mean to travel, to
know places, to move, becausethat is, vacation is to plant yourself
on an island or to plant youin one place and lie down for five
days. Yeah, I didn't do anything, I didn' t
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even lie down anymore, but walkingaround a little bit, eating, napping,
walking, starting, walking, sleeping, either it' s great or
I mean if you' re lookingfor that plan. It' s great,
but it' s true that theother thing is hard and of course
it has nothing to do with me. I mean, organize a holiday trip,
which is to catch a few flightsand catch a hotel, five stars,
all inclusive. That' s worthit anyone can do, yes,
but organizing a trip yes, yes, that' s another move because there,
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it' s, it' s, it' s a lot of
things and I say things that areuncomfortable, I mean. Everyone is aware
that traveling is uncomfortable, that is. If you' re not Georgina and
you have your private jet that youstill eat the hours is hard. So,
in the moments of travel, I' ve been in the moments I
' ve experienced the most tension.Yeah, like I mean, obviously,
all the trips I' ve hada hell of a time. But it
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is when the feeling of hatred towardsthe neighbor comes out a little, to
say shut up, the mouthing momentsof three, moments of running, moments
of losing trains, moments of wantingto cry of fatal planting. But because
travel is a little bit, that' s a bit of an adventure.
Evidently, of course, in aresorden riviera maya, all included you are
not going to stick with your friendbecause of a question of stress, but
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on a trip perhaps by camboya witha backpack of fifteen kilos that you will
leave a torticles of the host andsleeping on a train with four hundred and
fifty people fascinated with smell of ass. That' s right, generate,
that' s not true, youhave nothing to say. It' s
not that it' s an absolutereality. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
so that also makes it clear thatit' s not the same as vacations
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that stop traveling, but in nopussy, nothing to see. And another
topic I also wanted to bring upis the fact that Malinillo I think we
are very similar in that regard.It' s the theme of flowing that
I like how to take it backin the sense that there are many people
that I' ve traveled with friendswhen I was younger, younger, smaller,
I didn' t know, becauseI didn' t know what they
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were like when traveling, because youcan have friends, just like you have
friends for parties friends to tell yourproblems. You' ve got friends to
travel to the park, too.So, all this comes because there are
friends you travel with and suddenly yourealize that the priorities are different. The
best thing for you is your priority. Your priority is to see two or
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three things on a cultural level.But then, I can walk you to
a coffee shop if you' rehappy to give three to a coffee shop.
And there are people who don't. There are people who go
with a literal, a drive withthe hours, yet super strict, and
then I mean. It' snot that one thing is bad and the
other is good, but it's not compatible, that is, you
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don' t travel with those people, because the only thing that' s
going to generate you is an overrun. You know sas is total ci is
that it is the key that thetrip also does the people with which you
go to him. I know whoto do x with and it' s
considered s now because you' vealready traveled and you' ve met people.
But you, 18 years old,didn' t happen to you that
you found those kind of people whoaren' t compatible with you that great
that then those people go with peoplewho love to go with their drift and
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visit three things, three hundred thingsone day. I' m more of
a flower. I mean, thenthere are two or three things I want
to see clear, of course,but if I want to stay in a
cafeteria or watch a bet on that, yeah, I mean, I think
there has to be a balance betweenthat and, in fact, you'
ve unlocked me one of my biggestdebates that in this case I have a
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very clear position, but I'm going to put it in a correct
way. See if we can geta clip out of here is the two
teams the team. I want tosee it all at the expense of my
mental health, that is, literallyif this city has three hundred and forty
- five monuments, I will seethem all, although it swallows me that
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running a marathon every day or theteam we go with calm and what we
see we see and what we don' t see. I don' t
know because I haven' t seenhim, I can' t cross him
out you understand because it' sthat and I' ve been getting older
than before. It was ah yes, everything, everything, everything, everything,
now I suck an egg like that. If I' m going to
give myself is that if I goto Cuala Lumpur and I only see a
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city because it' s already,I would return with the Lumpur, with
the calm that I understand that peoplegive a little anxiety the fact to say
here not too much to return,but I have lived what it is to
go, like the ass. Likeass, because you don' t enjoy
and you don' t end upenjoying yourself like me and I remember.
The first time I went over wasIlandia who, thank God, went with
people who were the hell to travelbecause they were super related, super Chile.
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It was all wonderful, but werealized tailor- made here we were
going on a journey that we saidwe wanted to cover much more than our
body allows us, more than anythingelse, because that is to say,
we took out a peak of energyand a beak dre in the incredible line,
because I don' t know howwe endured the lives that were seventeen
days of pure torture that, thankGod, was incredible. And that'
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s what he did to us wasget over what someone else on that trip
cries and gives him a Jari.I' ll tell you now and give
him a jarrit. You who prefer. No, I mean me. I
prefer literal, a journey where Iobviously want to see my three four things,
but then what can' t be, because I prefer literal. Don
' t go with your ass.I' m not your ass. I
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don' t want to go withmy ass. You know then I am
the tim who enjoys coffee that drinkscute and wants, because it is that
I prefer a quality conversation with myfriends that I am going on a trip,
that I am not seeing temples,that of the temples I find beautiful
temples or cathedrals or whatever. Butbecause really what I' m going to
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remember is really about the hajas andthe stories and laughing and literally not looking
at the clock that happens to usmany times when we' re working,
whatever' s sorate with the clock. No, just a trip. What
I love about a trip is notlooking at the clock. That' s
the best thing about a trip.So if you go with a program of
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three hundred forty- five monuments inone day, because I' m really
sorry, but the clock is goingto be there, we' re pressing
all the literal time. Besides,that' s also why it' s
been a long time with which peopleyou' re going, because I,
for example, if it' sa person who' s monuments to me,
I don' t usually go throughthe linings of the balls, that
is, I have zero sensitivity toart and everything is worth peddling exactly the
same. Okay I enjoy much moreof the life of walking down the street,
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of seeing what the people of thatcountry do of drinking, their typical
drink, of eating their food likelike all that gives me as more or
that going to a museum like egg- sucking and sorry, uh, I
don' t know what you wantme to do exactly the same and this
what I came to ah to thething besides. I get tired very quickly
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of something that is repetitive. Iremember in Iceland Look, I wanted to
put the waterfalls in my pussy.I say how you show me one more
waterfall, I mean, like Ido more car hours to see a waterfall.
I don' t swear I punchmyself with the waterfall, I mean,
I' m sorry, but Itend to relativize things and I say
it' s done, so thatwater falling from a mountain was defined in
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mystery I remember, it' shere smoking, so don' t be
active anymore, ten passions. She' s super excited. So by happy
flower, I say I bad isthe waterfall plant, so bunk, but
so, uh, but it wasgreen the car would come out because it
wasn' t typical, suddenly it' s the car, but it was
like, in those moments I already, like I get, bad shit,
I just see that, which isthat it' s water falling from a
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mountain by the thaw very well,with gratoilation it has come to the spring
season. I mean, I don' t care. I don' t
care, it was like I gota flash. I didn' t remember
that waterfall moment. Uh, sothere I was, you know, your
blasphemous feeling because I saw them allso excited about the waterfalls and there were
maybe fourteen more scheduled waterfalls that Iwas saying I' m gonna shoot myself.
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Yes, yes, as I sawmore waterfalls and that I think was
happening to quite a lot of peopletoo that either, taste and taste suddenly
say how it is that I likesomething neither and they just love it.
I don' t know, butI relativize. So I kind of say
good, a waterfall is over.I' m done with cute Lisa sucking
me, which means she' salso going to be very disciplining to me.
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I go to Paris and go tocute Lisa and say I get the
good Isa. But let' sfucking go, see the Effel tower.
Another fucking shit is that it's true or we' re going to
do a podcast of things that areoverrated and France whole goes and the list
doesn' t, but it's true that then that guy also the
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problem of traveling and people who gowith a lot of expectation about a very
typical thing, usually I' msorry, but you usually go fuck yourself
to see that' s true.Yes, we have as we do a
lot of hype to many things thatthen it is also better because we have
seen them so much, we haveconsumed them so much in photos, on
social networks and such that then youget there is not so much. And
of course it' s not thatmuch. And new yor smells like shit.
It' s not there, butI' m sure it smells like
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shit It looks like it smells likeshit. Open your mind a little bit
more you' re not getting in, yeah, totally. Or today on
this podcast, we' re gonnapull out a lot of clips where people
are gonna kill us. No,but I' m saying one typical thing
that you' ve been disappointed anduff I don' t know Torre Efel
without mac too Eh, I haven' t had museums anymore. Luis ven
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vale come a me me love ifI am going to get wet, I
will get wet when sometimes I entermuseums and I have gone with people who
have made him very excited. Ilied a little bit and said ah what.
What. Well, I' mexcited that there' s actually no
museum that I' ve drawn attentionto is like I walk, I do,
like I' m interested in readingyou know the parents' little squares.
But I really think it' sbecause they' re evil. I
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think it' s because we're a little uncultured or something because someone
else would be interested. Uh,no, you, how many possers there
are in museums. Don' tyou know that people make you read interactive?
It' s people who make meread terrative muses I like them.
No, people make you look ata picture that doesn' t even know
whore would tell us, or itallows later, when they make typical interesting
like that with their hand and readinglike that, you think they actually read
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it and it' s that sometimesI read it out of boredom, that
is, but you read it,you read it and you hold it back
I read it for reading. That' s very good. The West gives
me a bit of a real planthat people who like musk really like that
part of art. I' mone thing that I think is no exception,
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because it didn' t make anexception either, but like if more,
it' s not a thing thatcatches my attention. You know,
I like the monuments part better.That catches my attention more and monuments,
so I think times and in Thailandfascinated me, uh, but it'
s true that my little brother andhe said a little the same thing as
you take me back to a temple. I really don' t say they
' re ugly, eh, butI' ve already seen four hundred temples
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and I said I stayed at thehotel quietly, but all the temples are
the same and really it' salso because it' s smaller. And
all that, in the end Isupport it. You know then, but,
well, I think the museum thinggives me a little more laziness.
It' s that, besides,I also tell you as a tip whenever
trips tries to run away as muchas you can from the typical, because
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it' s that, it's really typical is what disappoints most between
quotation marks and that ionizes it byexpectations and because there are always things much
more bomb to do in the city, but the cities are eclipsed by x
that is. It' s likeParis. Valencia spends a lot on the
city, the arts and the sciences. To me, the city of the
thirteen inks, I like it,but bro Valencia have infinitely better things and
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all the gray spots there with bicycles. The city knows the sciences and maybe
they don' t go to Carmen. Most of you will see the central
market is as clear. In Mayorca, for example, it happens a lot
with a beach takes out lobra,which is a kind of beach that does
so and that falls part of thewater, falls like the mountain and is
really very spectacular. But there aremany coves, much better, that people
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don' t know because they godirectly to the guides, which is what
everyone also does many times when wetravel, because and they go there,
but there are infinite many better,which are spectacular. The calobra with the
two Moorish and such, but manyturn it a thousand times. Uh,
but that' s in the endeveryone who gets the most out of it,
and what I often ask you iswhat' s going to lead so
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many people to agree on one thingthat' s a friend. But for
all of us to follow, Ibelieve that we are all the same human
being, we are all the masses. It' s already concluded. I
don' t think they' regiven masses. I' m sure you
' ve done a thousand times thateveryone' s done. No, no,
yes, 100% and then I' m sorry. That' s
why, don' t go toParis. Maris mandar Malen has to sado
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you have to always roam on thepodcast to something specific and you go after
him. At least it' sthe guys in this podcast. That'
s the terrible torrible and the EiffelTower. Okay. Anyway, I think
we' ve talked about a lotof things and there' s nothing.
We recommend that if you' venever organized a trip, do it to
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know what it is but at thesame time we tell you not to do
it, because it' s verystressful. But so empathetic for the cren
also yes, better, better,well, see you on the next Chachao podcast
A two, three very good toall. We' re here one more
day and today we' re goingto talk about organizing trips. We want
to focus this topic on the factnot of organizing trips as such, but
the people who organize trips versus thepeople who give populo. Indeed, I
(00:35):
organize trips and I organize trips onorganize trips. Already, I wish you
had been clear, but I thinknot, that is to say, all
topics precisely now to organize what Iorganized most trips before. And now,
because of the trauma of organizing atrip with more than four people, I
(00:56):
' ve decided to move a littlebit into the background. What happens is
that my controlling personality and honorable manipurcan sometimes not manage the fact that it
is other people who organize they donot have to attract and what they do
not, but Ana and I itis true that we have been doing many
tocho trips that is not a weekendMadrid or to Puta and the more without
deserving the people that make this kindof trips. But it' s true
(01:22):
that you notice a lot, becausein the end our first trips that we
may have done alone, which havebeen Europe, London, for a weekend.
Oh that I like good if youmake a mistake, because nothing happens
either, but the moment you jumpon trips much more everything clear, of
course, is more, yes,alone above all, but complicated, because
there are trips that have been longbut quite easy and trips that are complicated.
(01:45):
And we, for me, theexample of organized journey to the millimeter
is Iceland. Yeah, it wasmore, it' s that we split
up because we said or we splitup, or it' s that we
' re gonna end up bad,or it' s kind of thin that
we' ve had more because Ithink there were just four of us,
but the more we were going toput all, a lot of us,
but we knew we were getting organizedor we weren' t going to get
out. Not since or all ofa sudden. Or you take a bad
(02:07):
rub and you' re stuck inthe snow. Either you take one and
you might know that it' sa complicated trip, that it' s
not nature, you know I don' t know, and that the bitch
is that many of the coolest orcoolest or most amazing trips you can make
require quite a lot of organization priorto the trip and there are people that
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all they like is bizum money andplants at the airport and it' s
already there, they don' tunderstand laughs. I would very much like
those people who don' t organizetravel and a video doesn' t say
a point or organize a trip,okay because or people who haven' t
organized in their life. Then,then, at least shut up you know
don' t bother. It's just like that. The same thing
I' m outraged about because we' ve found both you and I situations
(02:57):
And to say to me is thatI like it a lot, maybe I
' m going to be sorry tosomeone, but to bite your tongue and
say fuck, at least to doit you know, do it you look
at it the effort and how complicatedit is. And then you' ll
criticize me or you' ll makesome comment on yours, but it'
s just a lot of nose-fucking. That' s what people who
usually criticize are the ones who havenever organized a trip. Nothing then and
(03:21):
besides that I mean, I thinkit' s the first rule that he
doesn' t do anything applied toevery fucking thing in life. If you
do anything to yourself, shut upand if you don' t clean the
house, shut up, if youdon' t cook, don' t
pynes, if you haven' tarranged the trip, go and be quiet.
But besides, it is also truethat I think this dilemma comes when
the number of people going on atrip is very high, because I think
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that in the middle of a tripmany times three four people. The process
of organizing is even fun, becauseyou' re sure I' m cool
to get to see Villa well.Besides, you spend it and I enjoy
it a lot in plan to chooseto go well Bis and places to sleep
I love flights as well. Butbecause I also have a little bit of
that superiority complex of thinking that I' m going to choose the best and
the best option and the cheapest,because you don' t know how to
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delegate also the best in that regard. Then it' s a lot harder
for me to delegate. But oneof the trips in question that made me
click mostly on saying I' mup to my pussy and I have to
talk about this because it' ssomething that I think suffers a lot of
people. It was a road tripI made in Australia. Traveling through Australia
is very complicated, that is tosay, it' s not a there
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I get carried away because everything isvery expensive. He can' t let
you go. And on top ofa rock trip and we were ten people
is that I never believe I've made travel so many people, ten
people Also, it' s atrip that you have to not to the
millimeter. But if you want todo things very tochas by subject of availability,
if you do not organize it beforeand not that it is at least
mine, because I also as ahalf, growing up, I like very
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much more the things that are flowingyes, in Thailand, I enjoy it
a lot because we literally went tothe day, that is, we chose
the flights from Madrid to Thailand andfrom Thailand Madrid, but then every day,
day by day, we welcomed thehotels. I would say that to
me it gives me a peace ofmind, because honestly, you' re
tasteful in a place you take andyou stay more exact time. But on
this trip you did have to organizeeverything yes or yes, and being ten
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people, I was already fully awarethat of those ten people and they were
going to be involved the ones Itell you. But it' s just
that, besides, it' snot effective or productive for ten people to
start thinking, because that' sfucking cao, because people don' t
agree. And in fact, thattrip came out because x people said from
such a fect to such a date. We' ll go if anyone gets
along, I' ll get along, and in one, because that'
(05:33):
s another, we' ll alsotalk about choosing the fucking dates and agreeing
with all your fucking friends to dosomething that' s people is more egg
than a question. What happened onthat trip is that it was arranged between
me and a couple more people.We did a drive and I remember passing
the three and saying hear each onesay they want to change something. It
(05:55):
gives me shit people for laziness andnot to investigate. He doesn' t
look at anything anymore, but thequestion isn' t that in general.
It is true that no one came, complained, yes, plan they threw
because what was there. But whatI did, which I said to myself
is I organize the trip before it' s okay. But the moment I
set foot on that trip, I' m not going to organize a fucking
shit because I' m not goingto embitter the trip and make the motto.
(06:18):
That' s the one that doesn' t apply it to everyone.
Uh, and arrange a trip duringthe trip, sort of, be like
the guide. It' s aburden that we' re going to.
It' s nobody' s andI remember reading him my performances and I
said I' m not going todo anything. I want to enjoy myself,
I let myself go and then Ibecame the ants, I mean,
I became those who fuck up,while another person is trying to guide the
(06:40):
herd and it' s just thatI realized from outside how fucked up the
position is that I was guiding,something that tap you repeating and repeating come
on Yes, so far we haveto do this. I put it on,
they had guns put them on.I don' t know we didn
' t make it, yeah,and that, Uncle, during a trip
is one thing you say, hey. I' m not a camp monitor.
I' m here traveling with myfriends and it' s just that,
Uncle, it' s a fuckinglow- key, that is,
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organizing a trip of a lot ofpeople, it' s an unpaid fucking
job. Like you would have tovalue that position much more and invite to
dinner, even if it' sthe person who does, because it literally
has no reward and it' shard to look for example, speaking now,
I' ve recently gone on afairly long trip and it kind of
required a lot of organization. I' ve been to Thailand. What happens
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that my sister and I have beenthe one who arranged the trip. I
already had experience organizing and so didmy sister. What happened that my parents
both had always arranged for the trips. What happens that this year we are
already older, have already delegated andclear my sister and that we said we
organize it because thus we save allthe costs that collect agency And so and
says that I like it because itcan be to choose you how they are
(07:47):
super cool And such is my father, really of the two is the one
that has always organized the most.My mother gave it all the same.
What happens on this trip that myfather as a good organizer. In the
past she hasn' t complained aboutanything and my mother, who' s
not used to organizing trips and organizingthis kind of you might know how to
(08:09):
organize other things. But the travelissue isn' t the one that gets
the most out of it, onthe pure side, Mom, I love
you, but it' s trueand it' s like you' ve
never organized a trip. Mom,don' t complain, you know,
and I left it to her,and my sister and I were looking at
each other, man, we're not gonna say anything because we'
re on a family trip and it' s all happy. But it'
s true, and then this isreflection, because sometimes, until you live
(08:33):
in any situation of life, youdon' t live what it is,
you don' t know many timeswhat it entails. Not this literal that
people who think that organizing a tripis ah well no or things well,
well, it is not such thatyou say that you look at many things
and that you have done things andthat on top of that after people do
not complain that the budget enters intothe whole world, that everyone can say.
(08:54):
Hey, well, I' dlike to see it is also I
like to see the parrot and thenthere' s the Torrah that said there
I like a thing that is fifty- eight kilometers from laputation and we don
' t give a shit, becauseyou have to deal with those things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, withpeople who don' t think meaningfully like
a rational one. But it's also come to me because of what
Thailand and your mother have done complainingabout leaving you, I know that maybe
it has nothing to do with whathas come to your mind the most,
(09:15):
which is that the other day itcame out a little very good, which
was the difference between that you liketo travel and that you like to go
on vacation. Yes, it's very different. It' s very
different. It' s the thingI' ve never thought about and I
' ve noticed the part is thatI like to travel and I like to
go on average vacation, but thereare people who just like that holiday.
And if on vacation, it's not traveling, it' s not
planting a backpack, taking eleven-hour trains, but they' re do.
(09:39):
I think when you travel, thenyou need some. You haven'
t heard this, then I needa vacation vacation time BN is that it
' s literally traveling. That's what I mean to travel, to
know places, to move, becausethat is, vacation is to plant yourself
on an island or to plant youin one place and lie down for five
days. Yeah, I didn't do anything, I didn' t
(10:00):
even lie down anymore, but walkingaround a little bit, eating, napping,
walking, starting, walking, sleeping, either it' s great or
I mean if you' re lookingfor that plan. It' s great,
but it' s true that theother thing is hard and of course
it has nothing to do with me. I mean, organize a holiday trip,
which is to catch a few flightsand catch a hotel, five stars,
all inclusive. That' s worthit anyone can do, yes,
but organizing a trip yes, yes, that' s another move because there,
(10:22):
it' s, it' s, it' s a lot of
things and I say things that areuncomfortable, I mean. Everyone is aware
that traveling is uncomfortable, that is. If you' re not Georgina and
you have your private jet that youstill eat the hours is hard. So,
in the moments of travel, I' ve been in the moments I
' ve experienced the most tension.Yeah, like I mean, obviously,
all the trips I' ve hada hell of a time. But it
(10:43):
is when the feeling of hatred towardsthe neighbor comes out a little, to
say shut up, the mouthing momentsof three, moments of running, moments
of losing trains, moments of wantingto cry of fatal planting. But because
travel is a little bit, that' s a bit of an adventure.
Evidently, of course, in aresorden riviera maya, all included you are
not going to stick with your friendbecause of a question of stress, but
(11:05):
on a trip perhaps by camboya witha backpack of fifteen kilos that you will
leave a torticles of the host andsleeping on a train with four hundred and
fifty people fascinated with smell of ass. That' s right, generate,
that' s not true, youhave nothing to say. It' s
not that it' s an absolutereality. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
so that also makes it clear thatit' s not the same as vacations
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that stop traveling, but in nopussy, nothing to see. And another
topic I also wanted to bring upis the fact that Malinillo I think we
are very similar in that regard.It' s the theme of flowing that
I like how to take it backin the sense that there are many people
that I' ve traveled with friendswhen I was younger, younger, smaller,
I didn' t know, becauseI didn' t know what they
(11:52):
were like when traveling, because youcan have friends, just like you have
friends for parties friends to tell yourproblems. You' ve got friends to
travel to the park, too.So, all this comes because there are
friends you travel with and suddenly yourealize that the priorities are different. The
best thing for you is your priority. Your priority is to see two or
(12:16):
three things on a cultural level.But then, I can walk you to
a coffee shop if you' rehappy to give three to a coffee shop.
And there are people who don't. There are people who go
with a literal, a drive withthe hours, yet super strict, and
then I mean. It' snot that one thing is bad and the
other is good, but it's not compatible, that is, you
(12:37):
don' t travel with those people, because the only thing that' s
going to generate you is an overrun. You know sas is total ci is
that it is the key that thetrip also does the people with which you
go to him. I know whoto do x with and it' s
considered s now because you' vealready traveled and you' ve met people.
But you, 18 years old,didn' t happen to you that
you found those kind of people whoaren' t compatible with you that great
that then those people go with peoplewho love to go with their drift and
(12:58):
visit three things, three hundred thingsone day. I' m more of
a flower. I mean, thenthere are two or three things I want
to see clear, of course,but if I want to stay in a
cafeteria or watch a bet on that, yeah, I mean, I think
there has to be a balance betweenthat and, in fact, you'
ve unlocked me one of my biggestdebates that in this case I have a
(13:20):
very clear position, but I'm going to put it in a correct
way. See if we can geta clip out of here is the two
teams the team. I want tosee it all at the expense of my
mental health, that is, literallyif this city has three hundred and forty
- five monuments, I will seethem all, although it swallows me that
(13:41):
running a marathon every day or theteam we go with calm and what we
see we see and what we don' t see. I don' t
know because I haven' t seenhim, I can' t cross him
out you understand because it' sthat and I' ve been getting older
than before. It was ah yes, everything, everything, everything, everything,
now I suck an egg like that. If I' m going to
give myself is that if I goto Cuala Lumpur and I only see a
(14:03):
city because it' s already,I would return with the Lumpur, with
the calm that I understand that peoplegive a little anxiety the fact to say
here not too much to return,but I have lived what it is to
go, like the ass. Likeass, because you don' t enjoy
and you don' t end upenjoying yourself like me and I remember.
The first time I went over wasIlandia who, thank God, went with
people who were the hell to travelbecause they were super related, super Chile.
(14:28):
It was all wonderful, but werealized tailor- made here we were
going on a journey that we saidwe wanted to cover much more than our
body allows us, more than anythingelse, because that is to say,
we took out a peak of energyand a beak dre in the incredible line,
because I don' t know howwe endured the lives that were seventeen
days of pure torture that, thankGod, was incredible. And that'
(14:50):
s what he did to us wasget over what someone else on that trip
cries and gives him a Jari.I' ll tell you now and give
him a jarrit. You who prefer. No, I mean me. I
prefer literal, a journey where Iobviously want to see my three four things,
but then what can' t be, because I prefer literal. Don
' t go with your ass.I' m not your ass. I
(15:13):
don' t want to go withmy ass. You know then I am
the tim who enjoys coffee that drinkscute and wants, because it is that
I prefer a quality conversation with myfriends that I am going on a trip,
that I am not seeing temples,that of the temples I find beautiful
temples or cathedrals or whatever. Butbecause really what I' m going to
(15:33):
remember is really about the hajas andthe stories and laughing and literally not looking
at the clock that happens to usmany times when we' re working,
whatever' s sorate with the clock. No, just a trip. What
I love about a trip is notlooking at the clock. That' s
the best thing about a trip.So if you go with a program of
(15:54):
three hundred forty- five monuments inone day, because I' m really
sorry, but the clock is goingto be there, we' re pressing
all the literal time. Besides,that' s also why it' s
been a long time with which peopleyou' re going, because I,
for example, if it' sa person who' s monuments to me,
I don' t usually go throughthe linings of the balls, that
is, I have zero sensitivity toart and everything is worth peddling exactly the
same. Okay I enjoy much moreof the life of walking down the street,
(16:18):
of seeing what the people of thatcountry do of drinking, their typical
drink, of eating their food likelike all that gives me as more or
that going to a museum like egg- sucking and sorry, uh, I
don' t know what you wantme to do exactly the same and this
what I came to ah to thething besides. I get tired very quickly
(16:41):
of something that is repetitive. Iremember in Iceland Look, I wanted to
put the waterfalls in my pussy.I say how you show me one more
waterfall, I mean, like Ido more car hours to see a waterfall.
I don' t swear I punchmyself with the waterfall, I mean,
I' m sorry, but Itend to relativize things and I say
it' s done, so thatwater falling from a mountain was defined in
(17:03):
mystery I remember, it' shere smoking, so don' t be
active anymore, ten passions. She' s super excited. So by happy
flower, I say I bad isthe waterfall plant, so bunk, but
so, uh, but it wasgreen the car would come out because it
wasn' t typical, suddenly it' s the car, but it was
like, in those moments I already, like I get, bad shit,
I just see that, which isthat it' s water falling from a
(17:26):
mountain by the thaw very well,with gratoilation it has come to the spring
season. I mean, I don' t care. I don' t
care, it was like I gota flash. I didn' t remember
that waterfall moment. Uh, sothere I was, you know, your
blasphemous feeling because I saw them allso excited about the waterfalls and there were
maybe fourteen more scheduled waterfalls that Iwas saying I' m gonna shoot myself.
(17:48):
Yes, yes, as I sawmore waterfalls and that I think was
happening to quite a lot of peopletoo that either, taste and taste suddenly
say how it is that I likesomething neither and they just love it.
I don' t know, butI relativize. So I kind of say
good, a waterfall is over.I' m done with cute Lisa sucking
me, which means she' salso going to be very disciplining to me.
(18:08):
I go to Paris and go tocute Lisa and say I get the
good Isa. But let' sfucking go, see the Effel tower.
Another fucking shit is that it's true or we' re going to
do a podcast of things that areoverrated and France whole goes and the list
doesn' t, but it's true that then that guy also the
(18:30):
problem of traveling and people who gowith a lot of expectation about a very
typical thing, usually I' msorry, but you usually go fuck yourself
to see that' s true.Yes, we have as we do a
lot of hype to many things thatthen it is also better because we have
seen them so much, we haveconsumed them so much in photos, on
social networks and such that then youget there is not so much. And
of course it' s not thatmuch. And new yor smells like shit.
It' s not there, butI' m sure it smells like
(18:52):
shit It looks like it smells likeshit. Open your mind a little bit
more you' re not getting in, yeah, totally. Or today on
this podcast, we' re gonnapull out a lot of clips where people
are gonna kill us. No,but I' m saying one typical thing
that you' ve been disappointed anduff I don' t know Torre Efel
without mac too Eh, I haven' t had museums anymore. Luis ven
(19:15):
vale come a me me love ifI am going to get wet, I
will get wet when sometimes I entermuseums and I have gone with people who
have made him very excited. Ilied a little bit and said ah what.
What. Well, I' mexcited that there' s actually no
museum that I' ve drawn attentionto is like I walk, I do,
like I' m interested in readingyou know the parents' little squares.
But I really think it' sbecause they' re evil. I
(19:37):
think it' s because we're a little uncultured or something because someone
else would be interested. Uh,no, you, how many possers there
are in museums. Don' tyou know that people make you read interactive?
It' s people who make meread terrative muses I like them.
No, people make you look ata picture that doesn' t even know
whore would tell us, or itallows later, when they make typical interesting
like that with their hand and readinglike that, you think they actually read
(19:59):
it and it' s that sometimesI read it out of boredom, that
is, but you read it,you read it and you hold it back
I read it for reading. That' s very good. The West gives
me a bit of a real planthat people who like musk really like that
part of art. I' mone thing that I think is no exception,
(20:19):
because it didn' t make anexception either, but like if more,
it' s not a thing thatcatches my attention. You know,
I like the monuments part better.That catches my attention more and monuments,
so I think times and in Thailandfascinated me, uh, but it'
s true that my little brother andhe said a little the same thing as
you take me back to a temple. I really don' t say they
' re ugly, eh, butI' ve already seen four hundred temples
(20:41):
and I said I stayed at thehotel quietly, but all the temples are
the same and really it' salso because it' s smaller. And
all that, in the end Isupport it. You know then, but,
well, I think the museum thinggives me a little more laziness.
It' s that, besides,I also tell you as a tip whenever
trips tries to run away as muchas you can from the typical, because
(21:02):
it' s that, it's really typical is what disappoints most between
quotation marks and that ionizes it byexpectations and because there are always things much
more bomb to do in the city, but the cities are eclipsed by x
that is. It' s likeParis. Valencia spends a lot on the
city, the arts and the sciences. To me, the city of the
thirteen inks, I like it,but bro Valencia have infinitely better things and
(21:26):
all the gray spots there with bicycles. The city knows the sciences and maybe
they don' t go to Carmen. Most of you will see the central
market is as clear. In Mayorca, for example, it happens a lot
with a beach takes out lobra,which is a kind of beach that does
so and that falls part of thewater, falls like the mountain and is
really very spectacular. But there aremany coves, much better, that people
(21:51):
don' t know because they godirectly to the guides, which is what
everyone also does many times when wetravel, because and they go there,
but there are infinite many better,which are spectacular. The calobra with the
two Moorish and such, but manyturn it a thousand times. Uh,
but that' s in the endeveryone who gets the most out of it,
and what I often ask you iswhat' s going to lead so
(22:15):
many people to agree on one thingthat' s a friend. But for
all of us to follow, Ibelieve that we are all the same human
being, we are all the masses. It' s already concluded. I
don' t think they' regiven masses. I' m sure you
' ve done a thousand times thateveryone' s done. No, no,
yes, 100% and then I' m sorry. That' s
why, don' t go toParis. Maris mandar Malen has to sado
(22:40):
you have to always roam on thepodcast to something specific and you go after
him. At least it' sthe guys in this podcast. That'
s the terrible torrible and the EiffelTower. Okay. Anyway, I think
we' ve talked about a lotof things and there' s nothing.
We recommend that if you' venever organized a trip, do it to
(23:00):
know what it is but at thesame time we tell you not to do
it, because it' s verystressful. But so empathetic for the cren
also yes, better, better,well, see you on the next Chachao podcast
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