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Hahaha is happening. We' rehere today, wait for the wire,
the microphone. We' ve improvised, but weir back we' re here
was Valen. I have to sayhe' s become more affectionate, because
you' ve given me so muchthanks these days after our linfuenty. Well,
(00:32):
the more impo is here, theless honey has come again is being
away, but it' s justthat we' re the band back together
after a year and a half,literally half, a fucking year and a
half of zom of shit, zoom, connections, microphones, that listened to
us nothing. Well, you've already done a fucking odyssey. But
we' re still here and theliteral who' s traveled more than anyone
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is literally this shit. He's back here great. It' s
just that this gives me a lotof lives from when we were in Dublin
together, you remember to play crazy. For now it' s been the
best place we' ve been recordingtogether. Of course, Pedro, today
Malena has brought a theme that,obviously, since we were here together,
we had to start with something big, something strong, something that we like,
which is that it does not come. I' m going to introduce
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the subject Come on. The otherday my husband calls me and tells me
that he and his colleagues were talkingabout one thing and the main subject of
the conversation was a saying that Idon' t know if the truth exists
in Spain, but I didn't understand the moment you told me.
Uh, sure, I understood that, too, but I don' t
know if there is in Spain andit was basically that from death and horns,
(01:42):
no one is saved. And thesubject was the debate of those who
think that, indeed, no oneis saved from the horns and death,
and those who think that it isnot so. Let' s not expect
what. So your husband was supportingmy father, he was supporting death,
he was saving himself, there arepeople who are saved. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, but I don' t know what it' s
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like for me to lose my faitha little bit, humanity, for people
to think that, that is,for people to normalize so much normalizes the
fact that you' re going tocheat or you' re going to get
a shot at jons. I don' t know what' s worse,
but yes, just when you saidit, I said it' s worth
moa seems like a fear, becauseI was also right now, too,
then I' ll tell you,but I was also tight yesterday talking about
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that, about how we normalize itor how people hang on to what horns.
That' s the subject I wantto bring up later. But based
on that conversation that you and yourhusband have with your husband to see,
you understand that what your boy callshim husband, what they mainly said,
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or what they were discussing, whatcaught your attention. Basically what was left
at the table was that everyone believedthat yes in plan that obviously, of
course they will put you some amountof your life or clear that you will
put it You and the other twothat between them was killed and another that
they said that not in plan,that there was hope, in plan,
that not everyone put it. Butyou think those two must be you,
they' re cheating on nas.I honestly believe because they want meaning,
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they think they' re all thievesof their own condition. If you think
no one' s gonna be savedfrom the horns, it' s because
you look able to put them.Don' t fuck with me. Yeah,
yeah, I don' t thinkso, I mean, I don
' t think everyone puts them inor everybody else has basically put them in
because I haven' t, Imean, I' ve never done it
that way. Nor are we goingto criminalize that person who has been wrong
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once in his life at eighteen yearsof age, because yes, of all
mistakes are learned, but he hasnothing to do with people who cheat in
a pathological way, yes or no, because he has parallel relationships And such
that is very crazy and there iswhat I also believe that the phenomenon of
horns is that no one talks aboutwhen a person is doing well. I
don' t know if I'm going to explain myself I' m
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doing very well with my relationship.I' m gonna tell you, you
' re my friend, but you' re not gonna go to your friends
and tell them. Yeah, no, no, no, what rolls around
is the truth, by the deadare the clear and the literal horns.
So I think that makes the situationmentioned. It' s not real,
that is pussy, that yes,that' s true, that there are
cases of very heavy ropes and thatmake you little lose faith in humanity.
But and you think I mean it, well, I' m putting something
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right in the debate here, too. You think that people who cheat,
that' s knowingly good and they' re with someone else and that'
s what I mean, not oncethey catch it counts and that' s
okay. We' re talking aboutsomething a little more murky. It'
s just that those people really doif you do or a person who wants
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a lot, then kind of whatkind, also of friend, family and
all of this is dog. Butthat' s good. This is another
issue, because what I' vecome to see is that most people who
are systematically cheating, really think thatthey' re not doing anything wrong,
that is, if they' reaware that what they' re doing can
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' t say is okay because it' s not accepted. But above all,
I' ve seen those names,but they say no no as my
girlfriend is the name or the oneI love the most. It' s
the love of my life. I' m gonna marry her, but man,
I' m not gonna miss thechance. If I' m in
a bar to fuck one of them, I' ll explain. They tell
it in a way that relativizes itas much as in plan is nothing in
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plan. I' m just sleepingwith one person like someone else on top.
It' s like that but you' re having a hard time with
someone else who doesn' t evenunderstand. So if you feel like adjusting
with another person to what I meanin a systematic way, because they want
to not leave the other person,I mean, it' s because it
' s not just. But he' s not still alone, because he
' s not literal. I thinktoday is that I don' t know
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if it' s good. Inthe past I can understand that people made
agreements because, as really, marriagewas for all life and such especially in
the movies and all I understand thatpeople put it, because you were like
sinning towards God and then you sinnedin a way I don' t know
if even worse, because God seeseverything. Well, he' s already
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getting me with that comma what Godsees everything. There' s a person
next door. Yeah, anyway,a person, an entity, an entity
that was like more or secrecy orI didn' t see it as not
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being so, it wasn' taccepted. It seems to me I was
accepted, but today as it ismore accepted. I think we see it
much more. And on top ofthat, there' s a society problem
that I don' t think therewas that much before, that people don
' t know how to be alone. Conclusion, people always say comes to
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someone in hand in the sleeve,does not know to show alone, that
is, we have so much timeto have or people in this case,
because it passed to your partner.No, but of course they' re
things like that. I mean,I' m putting, I' m
not geniusizing, no, no,but I think it' s a problem.
No, no, of course,but because to see assholes are not
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if you can have a person wholoves you, who speaks to you,
who is attentive, with whom tomake fun plans, what will be there
to support you and all that andat the same time you can be throwing
at people erring, if it isyour motivation in plan. It' s
the whole comic book, of course, saying it doesn' t even fit
my head. That' s becauseeven I didn' t get this single,
but I didn' t get thatsingle. I mean, I don
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' t know if I explain it' s like it' s not true.
These people are people who are literallyvery slutty and very outgoing and are
all little or soft thinking about fucking, about going out to parties, of
course that' s not even mymentality. When I' m single,
then I mean, that' snot even why I understand the horns so
much because of the pussy. Noteven when I' m single, I
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' m going down the street andI' m dying to fuck people.
I mean, there are literally veryfew people who have moved my stick floor
to say well, I really wantto throw them away very little. Yeah,
for me, I can' tjeopardize your relationship and you' re
all clear and right now to putmy relationship between yourself. Almost none of
the plans not very few then,that' s for sure. I think
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the one who cheats, so Imean, I' m saying he'
s a man that' s goodfor her, but yes, anyone is
because he really has some emptiness,some tarita, some insecurity, something because
he doesn' t know what mybrain is, he doesn' t even
process the horns. Because of this, because I see it very clearly.
I' m with my partner.I' m in love. I'
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m fine. The last thing Ican think of is throwing out another weightssana.
I can say pussy how not thatperson is fucking if without pushing anything,
but not doing it is that itdoesn' t even go through my
head, because it doesn' tgo through my head most of the time
when I' m single either.But aside, I know a person who
moves my floor, I' ddo scales enough. If the scale goes
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right, I don' t carewhat I want to throw at this person.
I want to be with my partner, because I love her because you
want to be with that person.He' s already on the balance of
interest one hundred percent I' mgoing to be with my partner phenomenal the
net out. What I do iseliminate that which the problem that people have
is that they are not able toeliminate temptation, well pussy. If you
know that you like this person,don' t seek to be with her,
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don' t seek to find her, you have to do it,
or it' s not if you' re all the time and going towards,
towards a clear script, if you' ve chosen to be with your
partner and you have a person who, for whatever reason, produces such a
thing, if you' re seeingthat it' s going to jeopardize your
relationship move away, it doesn't cost you anything. And if I
did the balance then and it comesout listen look, because it is that
not not following the same thing,no, no, it is not,
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because I leave that person is thatI do not know how not to climb
in the face of shame or alsothe feeling of guilt. The lie would
not be incapable, that is thepeople who do it do not say it
and on top even people who donot do it, do not say it.
They catch him and he keeps sayingI' m not bro anymore.
Yeah. That' s very strong. That' s right, but that
' s like very very very twisted, very much above lying when Ttan gets
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caught, not starting as they gowith that tip of the grave. If
it' s necessary, or heavy, you think you' ve been horned
by MM. No. No.I don' t mean my current partner.
I wouldn' t put my handon the fire with my previous partner.
I don' t mean no either. I think the two people I
' ve been, uh, toldme. If it had happened. You
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don' t think so. Imean, I' m pretty sure I
didn' t get them. Thereis one that makes me doubt more,
but simply because it wasn' tso perfect. But perfect I speak of
the day in the middle. Yeah, yeah, people who' ve heard
the podcast since the beginning know whoit is. Since I' ve learned
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Spanish now, I' m shittingmy ass. No, well, yes,
you' ve learned Spanish and you' re listening. This confirms me
and you cheated on me. Sonof a bitch. No kidding, I
don' t know, we're not going. I don' t
think so. I think it wasa little bit. Anyway, eyes you
said something and now it' sgone completely good. I tell you I
take out another topic, which isin relation to the horns and temptations and
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so just yesterday, so with mypartner this topic and I told him and
I told him why he told mea story about a friend, a friend
of his who lived with her boyfriendis okay and the boyfriend I don'
t know exactly what the story is. He tells her it is. I
guess you don' t feel thesame way, how about and I think
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she or he tells you that hehas cheated on you and that you have
to think about it if you wantme to compensate you more. Such And
sometimes we' re so blind thatthe girl was still in the boy'
s house waiting for him to decidewhile he was banging the other you know,
I mean, I don' tknow exactly how all the details,
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I don' t know if that' s exactly the way the story is,
but when they were telling me yesterdayit was like wow. You know
kind of in the sense of howsometimes we' re so hooked up in
a relationship and sometimes we normalize somuch about horns. I don' t
mean for this girl to normalize itanymore, but it' s like it
disturbs me a lot of saying howthat girl' s self- esteem should
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be felt. Let' s see. That' s the main problem,
and of course I mean how thatfucks you up for insecurities, for the
next relationships, to move forward.You as if, yes, I hope
it' s hard for you tomove on according to what situations, after
you pass. And as a person, I don' t know it seemed
very strong to me when they toldme and in that conversation we ended up
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with the conclusion that, obviously,throughout life there are temptations and there are
moments that anyone who says otherwise,I don' t think he sees it
in a realistic way, or Ithink that you, in a relationship,
especially of a long time and suchto have temptations. Another thing is that
you say what compensates me, obviously, that everything that has added up with
your partner, all the experiences andeverything does to you, obviously say for
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my partner. But it does happenthat whoever says no, not I always
in love to the maximum such tosee I think that there is always not
a bit of climbs down and sothe important thing is to see to get
out of them and see what compensatesnot total is a hundred percent whether it
is mission or that is. Iam, in fact, more afraid of
myself when I have inclusive thoughts about, because of the horns in the kind
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of things. I never think ofmy partner cheating on me in a disco
or something or directly as a personlike that, not totally. So what
gives me the most things is thatI' m in your life, in
your work, in your something clearand suddenly connect a lot with a person,
because that' s passing the planrather than being prepared for them.
If she looks attractive to a person, she' ll look nice and pussy,
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because you say fuck, what abeautiful girl who' s more attractive.
But, for example, one thinghe always tells me kills is that
he wouldn' t even give riseto that because the moment he thinks I
understand what he means, he tellsme, but you, this then you
' re giving rise to know him. I explain why you tell me if
you get to develop something for someoneis because you' ve given rise,
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not because you. I think it' s good. My opinion is that
if I, for example, imaginethat I know you is good and we
speak a friendship, but that friendshipsuddenly to see like when sometimes you start
to like me more, but itis a click put on that it is
a friendship, but that I physicallybring you already ah you are getting a
little bit into the mouth of thewolf, because it is true yes,
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yes plan I did not see itif I saw it as you too,
but when I killed it told meeverything broken the way that that seeing affection
so that if you are and thereis already something that makes you a click.
Another thing is that you and youare still there to take yourself,
take yourself away, take yourself awayand take so much to know him so
much and so that you end upliking him physically. Yeah, I mean,
you could' ve pulled more back, a lot earlier. And it
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' s true as it is becausein the end, to me, my
partner is not cheating on me,but he has a somewhat mystical relationship with
his co- worker, who aretaking great that ja Jujuhu, who would
screw her, that haja JoJo.I think that' s disrespectful, too,
and you don' t either.I' d see if you'
d notice. The problem is thatI don' t feel my heart,
that I feel it and that kindof thing you don' t usually find
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out. No. No, no, no, no, nothing, no,
no, because they' re alsohorns if we get in there already.
But we' ve already talked aboutthat in a lot of time ago
that we did the horn podcast thatI, for example, very much believe
in already two years already, Iremember that just the complication we pulled out
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was that I remember, that Iwas talking about that happened to me that
you remember. I' m tellingthe whole story that I' d put
the good guys in for people youdon' t know and you' re
new to get my shit out here. Ahonda was unfaithful, unfaithful, and
it was of the things that ifyou return to that chapter that I repent
most of the world. But I, the moment it happened that we'
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re not talking about sex or anythingbut a kiss. I picked it up
at the time and said it's worth it that people might think it
' s what might be the samething as putting such horns on. But
I think there are degrees and Iconsider that since the horns, to me,
this my thing, were horns andeverything is horns worth, but to
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me what seems very twisted and allthe horns that are not said and the
horns that are repeated as if thatwith parallel relationships and those things. It
seems to me like I' ma very twisted dee, very twisted one.
I mean, I think the onlything saveable to me is a kiss.
It' s the only thing andI don' t know what would
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be the toll I' d haveto pay to forgive that, but it
' s the only thing in mymind that comes up to me that they
also tell you and tell you everything, not clear, not clear, not
clear, of course, a kissand tell me, but I know that
you tell me to tell you yourfriend, which is that it' s
not clear, not clear, butalready at the moment, that is,
already at the moment you end upbanging someone. It doesn' t seem
like a mistake anymore, because you, from the time he kissed you until
you took off all your clothes,you son of a bitch, have had
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a minimum. It' s justthat you said it, because I keep
thinking about it today in Plan twoyears later and Malency notifies my words.
Yeah, I' m telling you, people are not saying it was a
mess, it was a slip,it was a skate, whatever you want
to call me a peel. Itwasn' t a skateboard. Yeah,
no, it was a skater whohas a kiss up to as much as
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even a kiss to see what situationyou' re putting yourself in to end
up with a muzzle here in hismouth. Yeah, yeah, and I
' m hoping that you don't suddenly take it that way. That
' s why I' m tellingyou to fuck the word. They agree.
I think it' s all thatinvolves being unfaithful, but it'
s really what degrees. I considerthat there are degrees and there are things
that can be given, but itis true that it greatly damages the question
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always a self- esteem for theperson who puts it on, that is,
the pain you cause. I rememberthe pain I caused aside I swear
I passed it, I swear toyou on my life, which has been
one of the worst things. Butthe other person is also that you feel
like shit, that is, whata horror. What horror? What horror?
It' s just horrible, horrible. I' m the good thing
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I get from certain people who havecheated. It' s just that I
really know you' re one ofthem, but I know two or three
more cases of people who have cheatedand really traumatized them. So much,
it' s horrible. Plan togo to the psychologist and everything, i
e how I' ve done thish c I' ve caused so much
suffering to a person you want toalready have. That' s a bit
of a responsibility. Effective to sayis that sane people are not just going
to do it, they' regoing to screw up the relationship, they
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' re going to fuck it up. I mean, I can' t
imagine it because I' m tellingyou, I haven' t lived it,
I haven' t lived it,which is cheating on me. But
according to what emotional situation you findyourself in, what situation of this mental
ability you find yourself in. It' s a very strong host, because
in addition, he' s alwaystaken care to think that if they cheat
on you, it' s yourfault, or something you haven' t
done to the person you haven't done what you' ve learned or
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the other one that' s prettieror stupid is like that, and the
guilt of the stories isn' ton anyone but the person who puts them
or the person with whom you putthem or you, or literally it'
s him or her, who areassholes, well more usually they never cheat
on you with someone more handsome thanyou. That conclusion is that charm because
it' s worth ah if thoseever cheat and you don' t know
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such you contact with clearer water andevil and there' s no such thing
as self- esteem. And that' s true. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, that' s true Andyou see the horns of the celebrities And
then you see their women, yousay, but you' re an asshole,
so truth before they don' tdo it because that girl likes them
better, they do it because they' re sick. It' s just
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true, because that' s justthese guys and they have to have a
lot of them. Not because heexplains his dick and unani andín and
it is that I really listened topeople saying about all that to men,
say man. But it' sjust that if I' m in a
bar and a girl comes up tome, it doesn' t matter if
it' s that leg here,it doesn' t matter if it looks
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ugly or beti and the ugly asthe pussy is called that the simple fact
of feeling like men, that is, wuah is pulling my cane. How
am I going to fire this opportunity. It' s what motivates them to
fuck, not that girl is betterthan her girlfriend, let alone. It
' s because they' re darts, and then the girls also put,
uh, yeah, but I liketo mess with them and fuck everybody.
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Not because in this kind of horns, as well as what of disco or
going full thirty- four thousand havetwo mobiles, I have had strategies to
not get caught. It' snot that I hear the story that can
' t say anything, because no, because no, but people are sick
in the head with mobile phones,two mobile phones and everything, everything,
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send fake locations and prepare photos,all for example, for things, but
because you do it systematically, thatis not that you already have a relationship
for the other and horn, youliterally go out to party wanting to do
it. It' s not anay, but that' s the best
thing you don' t have.You don' t think maybe those people
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who are moving all the time,too. It' s repeatedly known type
have sexual appetite maybe, much higher, which has higher and also a much
lower IQ. Severo aside also froma very low self- esteem, because
if you are constantly needing the approvalof the other men, you are basically
fucking someone. That' s whereyou need to be You don' t
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need the pretation to see. Idon' t want to sound mafi,
but if you do that systematically withunknown people, because somehow, like,
you raise your self- esteem,I felt that the other person likes you,
because you and I have in theorythe love and affection of someone else
at home. What happens is heneeds more and more and more and more
to feed your ego. Yeah,I don' t know, I don
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' t know a psychologist, butit could be for sure. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, you know what' s the problem now that we'
ve been filming it and we don' t have a single point, how
long we' ve been at itis the truth. I think it'
s true. I' m justtrying to tell you if you remember what
you were talking about, what youwanted to talk about, and I'
d interrupt you. No. Idon' t remember. He' s
helped me completely out of my hands, because I think he did. I
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' m going to ask you aquestion that I' m sure she'
s already telling you in her day, but I think it' s a
good question to refresh you that whatyou' d rather put the corsosos that
I' d give you to answer. Yes, no, but that question
already asked me and today, twoyears later, I keep thinking how bad
it is, it brings it tome that I put on the good ones
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and what I' m already incharge of managing it you know because it
' s not. No, no, not really I prefer that to you.
No. I always hope I getthem too I think I had more
doubts before. Before I was likegood, I don' t know,
but it' s just that rightnow I don' t want to be
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that person, I don' tmean, I don' t want to
have that stain on my resume,I' ve put the horns on and
as I' ve totally and asI become more grown up and I hear
more stories about adult people, aboutthe generation, about my parents, about
generations of us that are like theycome out, like stories, like a
little bit of tangled, that thisis very reason Soto is sick and that
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exactly that I now think that sincewhen we recorded the horn issue and then
I swear that I have as aconcept much more, as more mature,
that it' s something super normaland that traumas me that is so normal
in society and that happens around us. We have people who do it repeatedly
and so and I thought what I' m saying, I thought a few
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years ago that it was something morepunctual and it doesn' t happen and
you find out besides, because it' s also that horns fly. Uh,
yeah, I mean, it's like, but it looks like
I' m telling you it's a before. I' ve caught
a liar with a literal lame,because it' s that crows always end
up dating, no matter how theycome out ten years later, but they
come out and on top people loveto talk. Then you get horn stories
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from people you don' t evenknow, but they' re super interesting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, justlike that and that' s like
it. It' s just,well, if I don' t say
names, it doesn' t matter, because these people came in. But,
well, someone told me that theywere a group of friends who were
several couples, well, question.Opposite couples got involved and how they found
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out. No, then, man, because in the end, if they
were still friends, they still dowith each other. And you, imagine
that you and I are friends.We went out with mateo and with yes,
yes, yes and no no,no pee and anonymity and I started
banging your colleague. Yeah, butwe' re still all four. That
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' s what happened. Wow,wow, plan motherfuckers, ya, ya,
wow. That' s very strong. And the two people who give
your holy pua is strong. Yes, this is happening, that is,
not only are the films of thegoals fathers and mothers, my mother less
an impotrament has to be given hahahahahaha, because I do know a teacher who
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says, that says the teachers above. We know everything before you know all
the troubles, from all the parentsand aside, because really in these things,
if you notice, there is notension, there is something that identifies
itself. Yes, I mean,it' s also, in the world
we live in today, it's really very difficult and you don'
t get caught between that when themore apart that we all become, when,
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when, when it' s said, when I' m at the
house of pressure, when the riverdreams water carries, okay, then when
you start kind of in alert mode, something happens to my partner is more
distant I know anything that doesn't errand you and starts the instinct of
I' m going to to toucheverything I saw and what I can do
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is touch something starts to sound weird, something starts to join together and who
' s looking hollow and right doesn' t. And besides, that'
s why everyone has mobile phones,everyone has many friends, everyone knows a
lot of people, the cities aregetting smaller and smaller. Like, the
odds of getting caught are a lothigher than those that don' t get
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caught. Basically plan is no,I just don' t parent. It
tells me how cases have told memy head like a chick who told me
that her father was cheating on hermother and they found out because some friends
of hers saw the father with alady who joined the mother. Ah,
you told me about this. Yeah, I think you told me. It
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' s not, so just putit in. Uh, yeah, so
I might have two a podcast.I don' t know You don'
t care. I' m sureyou don' t. No. It
' s not heavy already it's heavy already to see and already if
they come to me like things thatI can not comment, but it comes
to me only that you' rekind of with piece to imagine, but
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that you can' t sermalize.Yeah, yeah, yeah, like stories
he hears and everything, but whatwe don' t see things, we
know things, we all know thingsin nothing that I can' t put
together anymore, the rest will nolonger have to take a lot of horns.
We have to take the people closeto us. Or that I used
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to think that, too, andI always said fuck. This boyfriend hasn
' t cheated on me either atsome point. It' s going to
touch me not literal that has tranI now have no trauma already literally if
you notice much more relaxed and hasa lot of horns. And just'
cause it' s like I fuckingsay I trust a person who I'
ve seen and if he puts iton me, they' ll give you
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a literal ass like Chao, butbesides I doubt it. But it'
s like that I used to think. That' s what I' m
saying It probably has to touch me. But now I don' t think
about it, because now and Isay really, I know a lot of
people who haven' t cheated onhim. And I know mostly enough people
who haven' t cheated. Butin the end, it' s easier
to know what one has done thanthe other to him. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, but you, for example, that question is changed. After
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two years get your boy worth tellingyou he cheated. Well, he said
that well, he handled it thebest he could You' d leave him,
because you, two years ago,said he screwed up already. Mateo
was like you were, mateo wasyou mateo? In short, well,
dick, well, but that's okay, no, but to put
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it another way. Well, ifyou didn' t cut it, ask
him and then, if you don' t cut it, sure, well,
but mateo was you, yeah,well, yeah, then I lied
to myself. And besides, withthe same age, more or less the
same situation, then you' vechanged, you' ve changed your maturity.
He made you find people on yourway that you lit up for me
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a very fat slack. It wasa black net. I' m forcing
you to finish this podcast and I' m forcing you to listen to that
podcast where I crucified to see technically. I don' t think anything happens,
because the girl in her day alreadyfound out, I mean, it
' s okay. More, it' s been six years. No,
I don' t think so,we' re not winging. Then I
ask him in the end that youranswer is curious and ten years from now.
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No, but it' s onething. Uh, but because I
' m saying there' s alot of horn rags, all the memories.
I can understand that and besides,it gave me a lot of confidence
as she told me, that Itold myself, that I might not have
told, because it' s withthe thing of her past. That,
for example, I' ve toldyou. I' m telling you And
so much so that it does alittle bit of things to you because you
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know how much, I kind offeel that it intoxicates a little bit,
but I think, I see itnow with a maturity and I don'
t think it intoxicates, but it' s telling the other foot nothing happens
fatal ugly horrito that dedicates the otherway around like you are, but if
you tell it to the other endbecause you say fuck. I want you
to know the clear one, butI mean I thought it was intoxicating,
but I think it' s alsohealthy. You know, dude, it
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' s healthier than not to sayit and suddenly, in a moment,
it' ll come out. Ialso tell you as much as you say
it, don' t say itI always ask. Already there you can
say they say lie to me raclear, of course I ask I hear
all pictures game ever how fairer theirquestions and were 100% clear 100%.
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It seems to me to avoid that. I wouldn' t be with
a person who I know has putus in a lot, a lot,
nothing you understand. I wouldn't be with a person who does have
a person. How we' retalking about horns like we know you today.
Besides, cheating has a lot todo with being honest, of course,
I don' t think a cheatingperson is honest. No, I
don' t think a cheating personhas too much empathy. I don'
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t think they' re gonna haveto cheat, have a lot of guilt,
because how you' re doing allthat, I don' t know,
but that' s why I'm telling you, in the end,
I' m gonna put the bowlson you. It' s very
cynical. I don' t knowwhat it is but it hits and this
ends the pontia. Let' shope it' s a reasonable time that
he thinks we' re recording.Don' t give it to you or
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we' ll see you in thenext chapter. We' ll bring you
more things, c what difference andwhen we record together like that, nothing
that' s barbaric and I wantto see them bye
Hahaha is happening. We' rehere today, wait for the wire,
the microphone. We' ve improvised, but weir back we' re here
was Valen. I have to sayhe' s become more affectionate, because
you' ve given me so muchthanks these days after our linfuenty. Well,
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the more impo is here, theless honey has come again is being
away, but it' s justthat we' re the band back together
after a year and a half,literally half, a fucking year and a
half of zom of shit, zoom, connections, microphones, that listened to
us nothing. Well, you've already done a fucking odyssey. But
we' re still here and theliteral who' s traveled more than anyone
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is literally this shit. He's back here great. It' s
just that this gives me a lotof lives from when we were in Dublin
together, you remember to play crazy. For now it' s been the
best place we' ve been recordingtogether. Of course, Pedro, today
Malena has brought a theme that,obviously, since we were here together,
we had to start with something big, something strong, something that we like,
which is that it does not come. I' m going to introduce
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the subject Come on. The otherday my husband calls me and tells me
that he and his colleagues were talkingabout one thing and the main subject of
the conversation was a saying that Idon' t know if the truth exists
in Spain, but I didn't understand the moment you told me.
Uh, sure, I understood that, too, but I don' t
know if there is in Spain andit was basically that from death and horns,
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no one is saved. And thesubject was the debate of those who
think that, indeed, no oneis saved from the horns and death,
and those who think that it isnot so. Let' s not expect
what. So your husband was supportingmy father, he was supporting death,
he was saving himself, there arepeople who are saved. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, but I don' t know what it' s
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like for me to lose my faitha little bit, humanity, for people
to think that, that is,for people to normalize so much normalizes the
fact that you' re going tocheat or you' re going to get
a shot at jons. I don' t know what' s worse,
but yes, just when you saidit, I said it' s worth
moa seems like a fear, becauseI was also right now, too,
then I' ll tell you,but I was also tight yesterday talking about
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that, about how we normalize itor how people hang on to what horns.
That' s the subject I wantto bring up later. But based
on that conversation that you and yourhusband have with your husband to see,
you understand that what your boy callshim husband, what they mainly said,
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or what they were discussing, whatcaught your attention. Basically what was left
at the table was that everyone believedthat yes in plan that obviously, of
course they will put you some amountof your life or clear that you will
put it You and the other twothat between them was killed and another that
they said that not in plan,that there was hope, in plan,
that not everyone put it. Butyou think those two must be you,
they' re cheating on nas.I honestly believe because they want meaning,
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they think they' re all thievesof their own condition. If you think
no one' s gonna be savedfrom the horns, it' s because
you look able to put them.Don' t fuck with me. Yeah,
yeah, I don' t thinkso, I mean, I don
' t think everyone puts them inor everybody else has basically put them in
because I haven' t, Imean, I' ve never done it
that way. Nor are we goingto criminalize that person who has been wrong
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once in his life at eighteen yearsof age, because yes, of all
mistakes are learned, but he hasnothing to do with people who cheat in
a pathological way, yes or no, because he has parallel relationships And such
that is very crazy and there iswhat I also believe that the phenomenon of
horns is that no one talks aboutwhen a person is doing well. I
don' t know if I'm going to explain myself I' m
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doing very well with my relationship.I' m gonna tell you, you
' re my friend, but you' re not gonna go to your friends
and tell them. Yeah, no, no, no, what rolls around
is the truth, by the deadare the clear and the literal horns.
So I think that makes the situationmentioned. It' s not real,
that is pussy, that yes,that' s true, that there are
cases of very heavy ropes and thatmake you little lose faith in humanity.
But and you think I mean it, well, I' m putting something
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right in the debate here, too. You think that people who cheat,
that' s knowingly good and they' re with someone else and that'
s what I mean, not oncethey catch it counts and that' s
okay. We' re talking aboutsomething a little more murky. It'
s just that those people really doif you do or a person who wants
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a lot, then kind of whatkind, also of friend, family and
all of this is dog. Butthat' s good. This is another
issue, because what I' vecome to see is that most people who
are systematically cheating, really think thatthey' re not doing anything wrong,
that is, if they' reaware that what they' re doing can
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' t say is okay because it' s not accepted. But above all,
I' ve seen those names,but they say no no as my
girlfriend is the name or the oneI love the most. It' s
the love of my life. I' m gonna marry her, but man,
I' m not gonna miss thechance. If I' m in
a bar to fuck one of them, I' ll explain. They tell
it in a way that relativizes itas much as in plan is nothing in
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plan. I' m just sleepingwith one person like someone else on top.
It' s like that but you' re having a hard time with
someone else who doesn' t evenunderstand. So if you feel like adjusting
with another person to what I meanin a systematic way, because they want
to not leave the other person,I mean, it' s because it
' s not just. But he' s not still alone, because he
' s not literal. I thinktoday is that I don' t know
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if it' s good. Inthe past I can understand that people made
agreements because, as really, marriagewas for all life and such especially in
the movies and all I understand thatpeople put it, because you were like
sinning towards God and then you sinnedin a way I don' t know
if even worse, because God seeseverything. Well, he' s already
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getting me with that comma what Godsees everything. There' s a person
next door. Yeah, anyway,a person, an entity, an entity
that was like more or secrecy orI didn' t see it as not
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being so, it wasn' taccepted. It seems to me I was
accepted, but today as it ismore accepted. I think we see it
much more. And on top ofthat, there' s a society problem
that I don' t think therewas that much before, that people don
' t know how to be alone. Conclusion, people always say comes to
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someone in hand in the sleeve,does not know to show alone, that
is, we have so much timeto have or people in this case,
because it passed to your partner.No, but of course they' re
things like that. I mean,I' m putting, I' m
not geniusizing, no, no,but I think it' s a problem.
No, no, of course,but because to see assholes are not
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if you can have a person wholoves you, who speaks to you,
who is attentive, with whom tomake fun plans, what will be there
to support you and all that andat the same time you can be throwing
at people erring, if it isyour motivation in plan. It' s
the whole comic book, of course, saying it doesn' t even fit
my head. That' s becauseeven I didn' t get this single,
but I didn' t get thatsingle. I mean, I don
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' t know if I explain it' s like it' s not true.
These people are people who are literallyvery slutty and very outgoing and are
all little or soft thinking about fucking, about going out to parties, of
course that' s not even mymentality. When I' m single,
then I mean, that' snot even why I understand the horns so
much because of the pussy. Noteven when I' m single, I
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' m going down the street andI' m dying to fuck people.
I mean, there are literally veryfew people who have moved my stick floor
to say well, I really wantto throw them away very little. Yeah,
for me, I can' tjeopardize your relationship and you' re
all clear and right now to putmy relationship between yourself. Almost none of
the plans not very few then,that' s for sure. I think
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the one who cheats, so Imean, I' m saying he'
s a man that' s goodfor her, but yes, anyone is
because he really has some emptiness,some tarita, some insecurity, something because
he doesn' t know what mybrain is, he doesn' t even
process the horns. Because of this, because I see it very clearly.
I' m with my partner.I' m in love. I'
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m fine. The last thing Ican think of is throwing out another weightssana.
I can say pussy how not thatperson is fucking if without pushing anything,
but not doing it is that itdoesn' t even go through my
head, because it doesn' tgo through my head most of the time
when I' m single either.But aside, I know a person who
moves my floor, I' ddo scales enough. If the scale goes
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right, I don' t carewhat I want to throw at this person.
I want to be with my partner, because I love her because you
want to be with that person.He' s already on the balance of
interest one hundred percent I' mgoing to be with my partner phenomenal the
net out. What I do iseliminate that which the problem that people have
is that they are not able toeliminate temptation, well pussy. If you
know that you like this person,don' t seek to be with her,
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don' t seek to find her, you have to do it,
or it' s not if you' re all the time and going towards,
towards a clear script, if you' ve chosen to be with your
partner and you have a person who, for whatever reason, produces such a
thing, if you' re seeingthat it' s going to jeopardize your
relationship move away, it doesn't cost you anything. And if I
did the balance then and it comesout listen look, because it is that
not not following the same thing,no, no, it is not,
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because I leave that person is thatI do not know how not to climb
in the face of shame or alsothe feeling of guilt. The lie would
not be incapable, that is thepeople who do it do not say it
and on top even people who donot do it, do not say it.
They catch him and he keeps sayingI' m not bro anymore.
Yeah. That' s very strong. That' s right, but that
' s like very very very twisted, very much above lying when Ttan gets
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caught, not starting as they gowith that tip of the grave. If
it' s necessary, or heavy, you think you' ve been horned
by MM. No. No.I don' t mean my current partner.
I wouldn' t put my handon the fire with my previous partner.
I don' t mean no either. I think the two people I
' ve been, uh, toldme. If it had happened. You
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don' t think so. Imean, I' m pretty sure I
didn' t get them. Thereis one that makes me doubt more,
but simply because it wasn' tso perfect. But perfect I speak of
the day in the middle. Yeah, yeah, people who' ve heard
the podcast since the beginning know whoit is. Since I' ve learned
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Spanish now, I' m shittingmy ass. No, well, yes,
you' ve learned Spanish and you' re listening. This confirms me
and you cheated on me. Sonof a bitch. No kidding, I
don' t know, we're not going. I don' t
think so. I think it wasa little bit. Anyway, eyes you
said something and now it' sgone completely good. I tell you I
take out another topic, which isin relation to the horns and temptations and
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so just yesterday, so with mypartner this topic and I told him and
I told him why he told mea story about a friend, a friend
of his who lived with her boyfriendis okay and the boyfriend I don'
t know exactly what the story is. He tells her it is. I
guess you don' t feel thesame way, how about and I think
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she or he tells you that hehas cheated on you and that you have
to think about it if you wantme to compensate you more. Such And
sometimes we' re so blind thatthe girl was still in the boy'
s house waiting for him to decidewhile he was banging the other you know,
I mean, I don' tknow exactly how all the details,
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I don' t know if that' s exactly the way the story is,
but when they were telling me yesterdayit was like wow. You know
kind of in the sense of howsometimes we' re so hooked up in
a relationship and sometimes we normalize somuch about horns. I don' t
mean for this girl to normalize itanymore, but it' s like it
disturbs me a lot of saying howthat girl' s self- esteem should
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be felt. Let' s see. That' s the main problem,
and of course I mean how thatfucks you up for insecurities, for the
next relationships, to move forward.You as if, yes, I hope
it' s hard for you tomove on according to what situations, after
you pass. And as a person, I don' t know it seemed
very strong to me when they toldme and in that conversation we ended up
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with the conclusion that, obviously,throughout life there are temptations and there are
moments that anyone who says otherwise,I don' t think he sees it
in a realistic way, or Ithink that you, in a relationship,
especially of a long time and suchto have temptations. Another thing is that
you say what compensates me, obviously, that everything that has added up with
your partner, all the experiences andeverything does to you, obviously say for
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my partner. But it does happenthat whoever says no, not I always
in love to the maximum such tosee I think that there is always not
a bit of climbs down and sothe important thing is to see to get
out of them and see what compensatesnot total is a hundred percent whether it
is mission or that is. Iam, in fact, more afraid of
myself when I have inclusive thoughts about, because of the horns in the kind
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of things. I never think ofmy partner cheating on me in a disco
or something or directly as a personlike that, not totally. So what
gives me the most things is thatI' m in your life, in
your work, in your something clearand suddenly connect a lot with a person,
because that' s passing the planrather than being prepared for them.
If she looks attractive to a person, she' ll look nice and pussy,
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because you say fuck, what abeautiful girl who' s more attractive.
But, for example, one thinghe always tells me kills is that
he wouldn' t even give riseto that because the moment he thinks I
understand what he means, he tellsme, but you, this then you
' re giving rise to know him. I explain why you tell me if
you get to develop something for someoneis because you' ve given rise,
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not because you. I think it' s good. My opinion is that
if I, for example, imaginethat I know you is good and we
speak a friendship, but that friendshipsuddenly to see like when sometimes you start
to like me more, but itis a click put on that it is
a friendship, but that I physicallybring you already ah you are getting a
little bit into the mouth of thewolf, because it is true yes,
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yes plan I did not see itif I saw it as you too,
but when I killed it told meeverything broken the way that that seeing affection
so that if you are and thereis already something that makes you a click.
Another thing is that you and youare still there to take yourself,
take yourself away, take yourself awayand take so much to know him so
much and so that you end upliking him physically. Yeah, I mean,
you could' ve pulled more back, a lot earlier. And it
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' s true as it is becausein the end, to me, my
partner is not cheating on me,but he has a somewhat mystical relationship with
his co- worker, who aretaking great that ja Jujuhu, who would
screw her, that haja JoJo.I think that' s disrespectful, too,
and you don' t either.I' d see if you'
d notice. The problem is thatI don' t feel my heart,
that I feel it and that kindof thing you don' t usually find
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out. No. No, no, no, no, nothing, no,
no, because they' re alsohorns if we get in there already.
But we' ve already talked aboutthat in a lot of time ago
that we did the horn podcast thatI, for example, very much believe
in already two years already, Iremember that just the complication we pulled out
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was that I remember, that Iwas talking about that happened to me that
you remember. I' m tellingthe whole story that I' d put
the good guys in for people youdon' t know and you' re
new to get my shit out here. Ahonda was unfaithful, unfaithful, and
it was of the things that ifyou return to that chapter that I repent
most of the world. But I, the moment it happened that we'
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re not talking about sex or anythingbut a kiss. I picked it up
at the time and said it's worth it that people might think it
' s what might be the samething as putting such horns on. But
I think there are degrees and Iconsider that since the horns, to me,
this my thing, were horns andeverything is horns worth, but to
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me what seems very twisted and allthe horns that are not said and the
horns that are repeated as if thatwith parallel relationships and those things. It
seems to me like I' ma very twisted dee, very twisted one.
I mean, I think the onlything saveable to me is a kiss.
It' s the only thing andI don' t know what would
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be the toll I' d haveto pay to forgive that, but it
' s the only thing in mymind that comes up to me that they
also tell you and tell you everything, not clear, not clear, not
clear, of course, a kissand tell me, but I know that
you tell me to tell you yourfriend, which is that it' s
not clear, not clear, butalready at the moment, that is,
already at the moment you end upbanging someone. It doesn' t seem
like a mistake anymore, because you, from the time he kissed you until
you took off all your clothes,you son of a bitch, have had
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a minimum. It' s justthat you said it, because I keep
thinking about it today in Plan twoyears later and Malency notifies my words.
Yeah, I' m telling you, people are not saying it was a
mess, it was a slip,it was a skate, whatever you want
to call me a peel. Itwasn' t a skateboard. Yeah,
no, it was a skater whohas a kiss up to as much as
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even a kiss to see what situationyou' re putting yourself in to end
up with a muzzle here in hismouth. Yeah, yeah, and I
' m hoping that you don't suddenly take it that way. That
' s why I' m tellingyou to fuck the word. They agree.
I think it' s all thatinvolves being unfaithful, but it'
s really what degrees. I considerthat there are degrees and there are things
that can be given, but itis true that it greatly damages the question
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always a self- esteem for theperson who puts it on, that is,
the pain you cause. I rememberthe pain I caused aside I swear
I passed it, I swear toyou on my life, which has been
one of the worst things. Butthe other person is also that you feel
like shit, that is, whata horror. What horror? What horror?
It' s just horrible, horrible. I' m the good thing
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I get from certain people who havecheated. It' s just that I
really know you' re one ofthem, but I know two or three
more cases of people who have cheatedand really traumatized them. So much,
it' s horrible. Plan togo to the psychologist and everything, i
e how I' ve done thish c I' ve caused so much
suffering to a person you want toalready have. That' s a bit
of a responsibility. Effective to sayis that sane people are not just going
to do it, they' regoing to screw up the relationship, they
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' re going to fuck it up. I mean, I can' t
imagine it because I' m tellingyou, I haven' t lived it,
I haven' t lived it,which is cheating on me. But
according to what emotional situation you findyourself in, what situation of this mental
ability you find yourself in. It' s a very strong host, because
in addition, he' s alwaystaken care to think that if they cheat
on you, it' s yourfault, or something you haven' t
done to the person you haven't done what you' ve learned or
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the other one that' s prettieror stupid is like that, and the
guilt of the stories isn' ton anyone but the person who puts them
or the person with whom you putthem or you, or literally it'
s him or her, who areassholes, well more usually they never cheat
on you with someone more handsome thanyou. That conclusion is that charm because
it' s worth ah if thoseever cheat and you don' t know
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such you contact with clearer water andevil and there' s no such thing
as self- esteem. And that' s true. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, that' s true Andyou see the horns of the celebrities And
then you see their women, yousay, but you' re an asshole,
so truth before they don' tdo it because that girl likes them
better, they do it because they' re sick. It' s just
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true, because that' s justthese guys and they have to have a
lot of them. Not because heexplains his dick and unani andín and
it is that I really listened topeople saying about all that to men,
say man. But it' sjust that if I' m in a
bar and a girl comes up tome, it doesn' t matter if
it' s that leg here,it doesn' t matter if it looks
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ugly or beti and the ugly asthe pussy is called that the simple fact
of feeling like men, that is, wuah is pulling my cane. How
am I going to fire this opportunity. It' s what motivates them to
fuck, not that girl is betterthan her girlfriend, let alone. It
' s because they' re darts, and then the girls also put,
uh, yeah, but I liketo mess with them and fuck everybody.
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Not because in this kind of horns, as well as what of disco or
going full thirty- four thousand havetwo mobiles, I have had strategies to
not get caught. It' snot that I hear the story that can
' t say anything, because no, because no, but people are sick
in the head with mobile phones,two mobile phones and everything, everything,
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send fake locations and prepare photos,all for example, for things, but
because you do it systematically, thatis not that you already have a relationship
for the other and horn, youliterally go out to party wanting to do
it. It' s not anay, but that' s the best
thing you don' t have.You don' t think maybe those people
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who are moving all the time,too. It' s repeatedly known type
have sexual appetite maybe, much higher, which has higher and also a much
lower IQ. Severo aside also froma very low self- esteem, because
if you are constantly needing the approvalof the other men, you are basically
fucking someone. That' s whereyou need to be You don' t
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need the pretation to see. Idon' t want to sound mafi,
but if you do that systematically withunknown people, because somehow, like,
you raise your self- esteem,I felt that the other person likes you,
because you and I have in theorythe love and affection of someone else
at home. What happens is heneeds more and more and more and more
to feed your ego. Yeah,I don' t know, I don
(22:21):
' t know a psychologist, butit could be for sure. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, you know what' s the problem now that we'
ve been filming it and we don' t have a single point, how
long we' ve been at itis the truth. I think it'
s true. I' m justtrying to tell you if you remember what
you were talking about, what youwanted to talk about, and I'
d interrupt you. No. Idon' t remember. He' s
helped me completely out of my hands, because I think he did. I
(22:42):
' m going to ask you aquestion that I' m sure she'
s already telling you in her day, but I think it' s a
good question to refresh you that whatyou' d rather put the corsosos that
I' d give you to answer. Yes, no, but that question
already asked me and today, twoyears later, I keep thinking how bad
it is, it brings it tome that I put on the good ones
(23:02):
and what I' m already incharge of managing it you know because it
' s not. No, no, not really I prefer that to you.
No. I always hope I getthem too I think I had more
doubts before. Before I was likegood, I don' t know,
but it' s just that rightnow I don' t want to be
(23:22):
that person, I don' tmean, I don' t want to
have that stain on my resume,I' ve put the horns on and
as I' ve totally and asI become more grown up and I hear
more stories about adult people, aboutthe generation, about my parents, about
generations of us that are like theycome out, like stories, like a
little bit of tangled, that thisis very reason Soto is sick and that
(23:48):
exactly that I now think that sincewhen we recorded the horn issue and then
I swear that I have as aconcept much more, as more mature,
that it' s something super normaland that traumas me that is so normal
in society and that happens around us. We have people who do it repeatedly
and so and I thought what I' m saying, I thought a few
(24:10):
years ago that it was something morepunctual and it doesn' t happen and
you find out besides, because it' s also that horns fly. Uh,
yeah, I mean, it's like, but it looks like
I' m telling you it's a before. I' ve caught
a liar with a literal lame,because it' s that crows always end
up dating, no matter how theycome out ten years later, but they
come out and on top people loveto talk. Then you get horn stories
(24:32):
from people you don' t evenknow, but they' re super interesting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, justlike that and that' s like
it. It' s just,well, if I don' t say
names, it doesn' t matter, because these people came in. But,
well, someone told me that theywere a group of friends who were
several couples, well, question.Opposite couples got involved and how they found
(24:52):
out. No, then, man, because in the end, if they
were still friends, they still dowith each other. And you, imagine
that you and I are friends.We went out with mateo and with yes,
yes, yes and no no,no pee and anonymity and I started
banging your colleague. Yeah, butwe' re still all four. That
(25:14):
' s what happened. Wow,wow, plan motherfuckers, ya, ya,
wow. That' s very strong. And the two people who give
your holy pua is strong. Yes, this is happening, that is,
not only are the films of thegoals fathers and mothers, my mother less
an impotrament has to be given hahahahahaha, because I do know a teacher who
(25:44):
says, that says the teachers above. We know everything before you know all
the troubles, from all the parentsand aside, because really in these things,
if you notice, there is notension, there is something that identifies
itself. Yes, I mean,it' s also, in the world
we live in today, it's really very difficult and you don'
t get caught between that when themore apart that we all become, when,
(26:10):
when, when it' s said, when I' m at the
house of pressure, when the riverdreams water carries, okay, then when
you start kind of in alert mode, something happens to my partner is more
distant I know anything that doesn't errand you and starts the instinct of
I' m going to to toucheverything I saw and what I can do
(26:33):
is touch something starts to sound weird, something starts to join together and who
' s looking hollow and right doesn' t. And besides, that'
s why everyone has mobile phones,everyone has many friends, everyone knows a
lot of people, the cities aregetting smaller and smaller. Like, the
odds of getting caught are a lothigher than those that don' t get
(26:55):
caught. Basically plan is no,I just don' t parent. It
tells me how cases have told memy head like a chick who told me
that her father was cheating on hermother and they found out because some friends
of hers saw the father with alady who joined the mother. Ah,
you told me about this. Yeah, I think you told me. It
(27:17):
' s not, so just putit in. Uh, yeah, so
I might have two a podcast.I don' t know You don'
t care. I' m sureyou don' t. No. It
' s not heavy already it's heavy already to see and already if
they come to me like things thatI can not comment, but it comes
to me only that you' rekind of with piece to imagine, but
(27:37):
that you can' t sermalize.Yeah, yeah, yeah, like stories
he hears and everything, but whatwe don' t see things, we
know things, we all know thingsin nothing that I can' t put
together anymore, the rest will nolonger have to take a lot of horns.
We have to take the people closeto us. Or that I used
(28:00):
to think that, too, andI always said fuck. This boyfriend hasn
' t cheated on me either atsome point. It' s going to
touch me not literal that has tranI now have no trauma already literally if
you notice much more relaxed and hasa lot of horns. And just'
cause it' s like I fuckingsay I trust a person who I'
ve seen and if he puts iton me, they' ll give you
(28:22):
a literal ass like Chao, butbesides I doubt it. But it'
s like that I used to think. That' s what I' m
saying It probably has to touch me. But now I don' t think
about it, because now and Isay really, I know a lot of
people who haven' t cheated onhim. And I know mostly enough people
who haven' t cheated. Butin the end, it' s easier
to know what one has done thanthe other to him. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, but you, for example, that question is changed. After
(28:48):
two years get your boy worth tellingyou he cheated. Well, he said
that well, he handled it thebest he could You' d leave him,
because you, two years ago,said he screwed up already. Mateo
was like you were, mateo wasyou mateo? In short, well,
dick, well, but that's okay, no, but to put
(29:14):
it another way. Well, ifyou didn' t cut it, ask
him and then, if you don' t cut it, sure, well,
but mateo was you, yeah,well, yeah, then I lied
to myself. And besides, withthe same age, more or less the
same situation, then you' vechanged, you' ve changed your maturity.
He made you find people on yourway that you lit up for me
(29:36):
a very fat slack. It wasa black net. I' m forcing
you to finish this podcast and I' m forcing you to listen to that
podcast where I crucified to see technically. I don' t think anything happens,
because the girl in her day alreadyfound out, I mean, it
' s okay. More, it' s been six years. No,
I don' t think so,we' re not winging. Then I
ask him in the end that youranswer is curious and ten years from now.
(30:04):
No, but it' s onething. Uh, but because I
' m saying there' s alot of horn rags, all the memories.
I can understand that and besides,it gave me a lot of confidence
as she told me, that Itold myself, that I might not have
told, because it' s withthe thing of her past. That,
for example, I' ve toldyou. I' m telling you And
so much so that it does alittle bit of things to you because you
(30:26):
know how much, I kind offeel that it intoxicates a little bit,
but I think, I see itnow with a maturity and I don'
t think it intoxicates, but it' s telling the other foot nothing happens
fatal ugly horrito that dedicates the otherway around like you are, but if
you tell it to the other endbecause you say fuck. I want you
to know the clear one, butI mean I thought it was intoxicating,
but I think it' s alsohealthy. You know, dude, it
(30:47):
' s healthier than not to sayit and suddenly, in a moment,
it' ll come out. Ialso tell you as much as you say
it, don' t say itI always ask. Already there you can
say they say lie to me raclear, of course I ask I hear
all pictures game ever how fairer theirquestions and were 100% clear 100%.
(31:08):
It seems to me to avoid that. I wouldn' t be with
a person who I know has putus in a lot, a lot,
nothing you understand. I wouldn't be with a person who does have
a person. How we' retalking about horns like we know you today.
Besides, cheating has a lot todo with being honest, of course,
I don' t think a cheatingperson is honest. No, I
don' t think a cheating personhas too much empathy. I don'
(31:30):
t think they' re gonna haveto cheat, have a lot of guilt,
because how you' re doing allthat, I don' t know,
but that' s why I'm telling you, in the end,
I' m gonna put the bowlson you. It' s very
cynical. I don' t knowwhat it is but it hits and this
ends the pontia. Let' shope it' s a reasonable time that
he thinks we' re recording.Don' t give it to you or
(31:52):
we' ll see you in thenext chapter. We' ll bring you
more things, c what difference andwhen we record together like that, nothing
that' s barbaric and I wantto see them bye
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