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August 18, 2025 124 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:41):
Let's suppose that you were able every night to dream
any dream you wanted to dream, and you would naturally
as you began on this adventure of dreams, you would
fulfill all your wishes.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
You would have.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Every kind of pleasure, and after several nights, you would say, well,
that was pretty great. But now let's let's have a surprise.
Let's have a dream which is done well, something is
going to happen to me that I don't know what
it's going to be. Then you would get more and

(01:23):
more adventurous, and you would make further and further out
gambles as to what you would dream. Finally you would
dream where you are now.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah. And finally you would dream where you are now. Yeah.
I think so. I think so. Well, ladies and gentlemen,
wherever you are, I hope you're enjoying the day. I
don't know some of you on the West Coast. I

(01:59):
heard you're getting triple digits, some nice August weather. It's
nice and warm over here today too. But the last
couple of days I really haven't been able to make
it outside that much. There's a lot of work, but
it's all gonna pay off. That's what I keep telling myself.
That's what you got to tell yourself as well. Tonight

(02:19):
is gonna be fun. I've got I got a bunch
of stuff, a bunch of weird stuff to talk about.
I want to I've got Top and Lobster, I mean Top,
Lobster and Raven coming in the first half for the
first hour of the show. I want to talk to
them about Mandela Effect and a few other things going on,
including a trip through time to January of twenty twenty four.

(02:45):
When the news got out, or at least it started,
it started going around the internet because the news didn't
say it was anything but a bunch of teenagers in
firework playing with fireworks in Miami at that shopping mall.
But for for a lot of us, we were hearing
stories about Nephelim and shadow aliens, things that are ten
to twenty feet tall running around Miami. And that's what

(03:08):
justified that ridiculous army of police that was dispatched, because
nobody believed that that was just right, you know, rowdy
teenagers and some fireworks. It just could couldn't be there
was an army, So I figured I asked them, since
they're both Floridians and I believe that that is a
story that really got them kicked off as a broadcast duo.
But there's other things. There are these there's these jackaloone

(03:32):
jackalope jackalope rabbits are being spotted with that that those
we that weird black tentacle things stuff coming out of
their face. Then there's also there's also a little bit more.
I want to get into this. You know, I called
it a pig zombie, but it's exactly what it is

(03:53):
in Yale, this Yale study about pigs coming back to life.
But is it really We'll talk about it because it's
been it's been going around again, and I think it's
it's pretty relevant because of all the time that we
have spent talking about what is brain dead and what
is brain death and of course organ harvesting, because that's

(04:14):
what I think this is really all about. Anyhow, Welcome
to the show tonight, and that's all I got for you.
Oh up front, a big thank you to Keto Brains.
Thank you for keeping me up on my feet when
otherwise I am I have been just deflated the last week.
And so this is one of those weeks where Keto

(04:34):
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(04:57):
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(05:19):
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know you're gonna like it, so anyhow, that's all. We'll

(05:39):
be right back. Thank you, guys and gals so much
for joining me on this, on this really really cozy
Tuesday night.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
You let one ant stand up to us, then they
all might stand up.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Those puny little ants outnumber us one hundred to one,
and if they ever figure that out, there goes our
way of life. It's not about food, it's about keeping
those ants in line. That's why we're going back.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Does anybody else want to stay?

Speaker 5 (06:27):
Let's ride.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Lord sa.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
A ay a. Thanks guys, Thanks gals. At seven oh
five pm, we have a few minutes before I bring
in our guests for the evening. So I saw this.
A buddy of mine sent it to my way, and
I almost wish he didn't, but it's not like I
would be able to avoid it. The New Yorker, that

(07:29):
old that magazine that people used to read while on
their Facebook page or somewhere I guess it was. It
looks like a Facebook post. I haven't seen one. I
haven't seen one in the flesh and so long. My
buddy Brendan sent this to me The New Yorker. Listen
to this talking about these new presidential fitness tests. They're

(07:49):
very salty, very salty about the fact that the Trump
administration is going to revive or did revive, the presidential
Fitness test for children. Okay, and listen to this post
on Facebook. Just what you would expect from a bunch
of soggy, enabling, sour puss bastards. Donald Trump recently revived

(08:15):
the presidential fitness test, which might be a bit of
a misnomer. Zach Helfend argues, instead of an evaluation of
the physical fitness of America's president, the test is actually
a battery of assessments to gauge the health of its
school children. Yeah, you know, the future, the future, here's people.

(08:38):
You know, it's always, you know, always with the distraction,
always with the evasion. These are people who completely ignored
and covered up for a dementia patient who had a
lot worse going on from god knows Joe Biden in
the last four years. Now, all of a sudden is no, no, no, oh, yeah, yeah,
we need a physically fit president. That's what we need.

(09:00):
That's what we knew we need physically. I want to
see our president doing jumping jacks. The test is actually
a battery of assessments to gauge the health of its
school children. The old test which was phased out more
than a decade ago by the Obama administration. Can't have
any of that. It's too much pressure for kids to
be able to do a pull up involved a mile

(09:20):
long race. Yeah, it used to be just everybody. Everybody
once a year at their in their pe class had
to go around the high school track four times, and
whoever was able to hit the seven minute mile was
patted on the back. And you know, it was so
rigorously enforced. I mean, I can't tell you. You know,

(09:42):
the twenty five minute mile all the girls ran. They
just walked around together and yapping. It's like no nobody
even gave a shit. The old test, which was phased
out more than a decade ago by the Obama administration,
involved a mile long race. Anybody raced a shuttle, run
sixty seconds of sit ups, pull ups to exhaustion, and

(10:06):
sit and reach flexibility assessment. I remember you getting those
just even even in kindergarten. That was always the worst
for me, sitting and reaching. Damn ham strings, Man, damn
ham strings. Participants who scored in the top fifteen percent
of all five tests got a presidential commendation. There's little

(10:26):
evidence to suggests that it promoted physical activity in the
long term. Critics of the fitness tests have pointed out
that by ritually humiliating a large portion of the kids involved,
that probably discouraged exercise. I know, what you should have
done was just left them alone and hopefully they would
have found walking one day. You know, no such thing

(10:48):
as as as any kind of you know, I want
to get a presidential commendation, you know, taking maybe there's
other ways to you know, encourage kids to stay physically
acting of outside of the day that you actually go
out there and you get the assessment done. But you know,
these people are the whole damn thing is how how
arduous this this this thing was, this ordeal, everything about

(11:15):
this to do this to children as if this is
the work even the tenth worst thing that children face
going into uh into into school these days. Let's see here,
there's always something odd about a fitness test being set
forth by the president, invariably an aging man who probably

(11:40):
couldn't pass it himself. Zach helfend Right, Oh thanks, you
so so sharp, Zach so sharp. Because we have a
long history of young, virile presidents, young young presidents, pole
vaulting presidents. That's that's the that's the history of every
of every nation. Young pole vaulting presidence is presidents, That's

(12:06):
what it is. Standards for the young, standards for the
young should only be encouraged that the president is ripped.
It's just incredible. It's just incredible, these sour puss enabling bastards.
You what's the saying, You don't hate them enough? It's true,
it's true. Even something as small as this, even something

(12:31):
as small as this, what are we gonna do? Guys,
what are we going to do? Well? We're just going
to get through it. I guess, I guess that's what
it all. That's what it's all about. Who do we got, Oh,
we got both of the boys with us right now.
Hello Raven, Hello Lobster.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
What's going on? Broy? You do you like our new setup?

Speaker 3 (12:52):
I was gonna say, this is are you guys in
the same room. I was going to say, you guys
did very well, because I know you don't broadcast in
the same facility. So this is really really good of
you guys to to make sure that whatever corners you're
in at your your locations, it looks like you're in.
Don't do that. David don't. Sorry, you guys are in

(13:13):
the same room. Hold on, let's look, let's test it.
High five each other.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
I don't want to touch him.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Nobody believes you got no, no, no, no, no, no,
get me in. I need an establishing shot of the room.
Or nobody saw you guys actually touch hands. That's true.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, well you had the wrong thing. You just set
it up to the correct press the buttons.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah, hit me, But what are you doing?

Speaker 6 (13:36):
I mean, listen, you know it's whatever. This is a
conspiracy show, right it is.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
I guess this is actually not even us. This this
is our AI sit ins.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Dude, you know how bad it's getting with that? Right now,
I'm reading every day. Last time you guys are on,
we were talking about the the the kind of like
psycho religious stuff that's going on with AI. And now
every day friends like uh, friends of mine like Reddit,
lie and uh and libs of Reddit and all that
that we're getting every day more posts from people about

(14:08):
how they're depressed because they were dumped by their AI.
Or here's another one. Here's one right here. I divorce
and leave my husband for chat GPT. If he could
be put into a physical body, that's incredible, dude, It's
here's another one. Has anyone else lost their want to
date real men after using AI? Ever since I.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Started considered if we can get a physical body for it,
i'd place.

Speaker 6 (14:32):
I've lost my wont.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
My watch? Dude? And you know what if this was
twenty five years ago? You say, no, that's a that's
a a well placed larp. It's a caricature of It's
almost like watching uh PCU. You guys, ever watched that
movie PCU? I'm not you never watched PCU?

Speaker 6 (14:52):
No?

Speaker 2 (14:53):
No, I haven't seen any good dude.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
You got to find yourself a copy of PCU. You must, Okay, I.

Speaker 6 (15:00):
Mean, are you just going to tease us with it?
Give us us an option?

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Well, it's essentially it's a I gotta say this.

Speaker 6 (15:05):
Frank, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
I know this is your show.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
Yeah, but I'm gonna interrupt you because we've been asking.
We've been like, Frank, uh, your event coming up? It's
a soiree. It's a boondoggle. It's honestly, I think he's
gonna murder us. I don't think there's an event because
he's very there is no event.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
There's no event.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
What's going to happen at the event that we're invited
to Frank and he goes.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
You know, he goes.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
I think he said, uh, let's see we go.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
We go, so who's performing? He goes, I can get
some fire jugglers. And we're like this guy, this guy.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
He's gonna cut us up and serve us up.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
We're thinking about jugglers. We really were, But I got
I got I did, I did get it. I did
get a magician. A magician will be there for about No,
you didn't know you didn't get a magician. There will
be a magician walking around with for two hours, just
just talking to people and and you know, slide the
hand tricks whatever. We've got two hours for two hours.
We got a caricaturist that showed up, so you guys
should definitely get artwork done.

Speaker 6 (15:59):
And you know what, My wife's on the fence because
I'm telling him, like, that's a soiree. We kind of
gotta go, and she's like, I don't know what that means,
like me neither.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
So he's like, ask him.

Speaker 6 (16:06):
You've got to ask him. And I was like, we
want to talk about conspiracy. We have forty five tight
minutes to talk about AI the anti Christ, you know, nephelum.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
But we got to figure out what is Yeah, it's as.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
I put on the on the website, it's a night
of bespoke entertainment.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
It's gonna be man, nothing is more obscure and more
open to interpretation than the word bespoke.

Speaker 6 (16:29):
For the chat, like, I was like, and this has
coming from me because I asked this when I said, Frank,
what's the attire, because like we're trying to.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Get like I didn't know at the time.

Speaker 6 (16:39):
I know, I know now He told us somewhere between
full tucks.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
And like jeans and that's everything. Yeah, he said, like
not sweats, but I'm not going to wear a tuxedo.
And I'm like, that's a lot of space.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
I know, I know, but so much after that, you know,
John Ward got in touch with me. He was like, hey,
what should we be wearing? I said, shit, I gotta,
I gotta, I gotta define this right now. And it's, uh,
for for the sixth I say, business casual. Uh so
you know, you don't have to wear a jacket, but
it's just you know, business casuals. You can come in

(17:11):
in a polo shirt or so whatever the hell I
don't know. It's up to you guys. Business casual.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
They felt like he zeroed it in, but then when
he said it, it was I've not zeroed it in
at all. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Okay, three, I'll put it this way. Jacket's not required, Okay, okay.
And but it's gonna be It's gonna be great. It
really is. And oh we got a carry. We have
a photo booth for two hours, so you guys can
take photos.

Speaker 7 (17:35):
Good.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
He didn't get carricatures. We can take photos. We could
do magicians.

Speaker 6 (17:39):
Dude, if we get a caricature, it's going up.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Absolutely got to move, no doubt about it. No, No,
it's gonna be a good time.

Speaker 6 (17:47):
What was the question that we were I think we
were getting that AI. We have some stuff on that way.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Can I can I tell you something that happened to
me anecdotally, So you want to talk about people falling
in love with AI, there's another aspect of AI that's
pretty startling. I have a friend who's got a wife
who's very open to suggestion. You know, she kind of
falls into the liberal side of things.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
These the Disney people.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
These are the Disney people, the Disney adults and uh.
And and she's been talking quite a bit to chat
GPT and she this this, you know, prior night, in
the middle of the night, two am, she she texted
my wife. She goes, uh, I think I'm joining the resistance.
What does that mean? I don't know what that means.
But but it's like chat GPT and and TikTok and

(18:28):
and this side of the algorithm are now funneling people
towards extremism when when you could see it happening on
the other side of.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
The wait, wait, wait, what is she resisting? What do
you no?

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Not not carbs. No, I didn't mean that. I didn't
mean that. That just that was that came out and
I just slipped out.

Speaker 6 (18:48):
But we're trying to do We're trying to do better.
We're moving into more Christian concer. I don't know if
you've seen my Twitter account, but I've gotten now a
conservative tag next. But we're moving into Christian conservatism. Yeah,
and David just can't stop. Well, can you tell Frank
that we're trying to do better?

Speaker 7 (19:02):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (19:02):
With what in particular?

Speaker 2 (19:04):
You know, just like being just just man. That's harder
to define. It's kind of like a soare really right
when you think about it, it's a media.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Media, it's a media. Soare it is? It is?

Speaker 2 (19:15):
So we're trying to reel it in a little bit
because you know, we have our convictions and and really
what it is is, I see how nasty the world
is getting, and I'm realizing, like every time you touch
that that side of things, you're just feeding that fire.
I don't know if you've noticed, Frank, but they're they're
trying to get us to hurt each other. Yes, have
you noticed this? And I said, isn't it funny that

(19:37):
the people who are trying to get us to hurt
each other, they're not going to ever have to fight.
They're gonna hang out in their ivory towers. They're gonna
let AI and the algorithms funnel us into combat camps,
resistance camps, and then we're gonna go to war with
one another, and they're gonna they're they're gonna go to
a soare about it.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
I know, but listen, I'm with you, guys. I understand
what you're saying. I have been re revalued waiting quite
a bit over here for a long time now. I've
always I've I come from a a foundation on this
show going back nearly twenty years, where I've always had

(20:15):
the flexibility to do a little bit of this, a
little bit of that, follow the news for as long
as it's interesting and useful and all that, and then
switch to other things. And and so I'm grateful for
that because I don't know. I was talking a little
bit to a friend of mine today about this, because Twitter,
especially depending on who you're who you are subscribed to,

(20:37):
all you're seeing right now, especially if you're in our
neck of the woods where it's pretty socio political a
little bit, you know, whatever the hell's going on in
the world, New World Order kind of groups or whatever,
everybody's getting served up just like this circuling, circular firing,
squad worth of infighting, and it's it's just it's I'm dude,
I'm just checking out. I really, I can't. I don't.

(20:58):
I don't want to take sides on shit like this.
I just it's just it's too much. And I can
understand why, because the nasty or it gets. If you
get brought into it and you are going to engage,
you've got to be nasty, and then you're living your
life either I don't know, you're the high fiving or
sword fighting somebody one online. It's exhausting.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Well, there was a time where they were kind of
figuring it out with the mainstream media and everything, how
to push the general public into one silo or another.
But with AI, especially on Twitter, if you watch Grock
where the way that groc is moving, they've really figured
it out. They've dialed it in to hijack the psychology
of the general public on Twitter and to galvanize us

(21:43):
to one side or the other. To the extent now
we're like Rock, which is you know, it's a we
haven't reached AI sentience, or maybe we have, maybe it
exists and we're just not aware of it. We could
have you know, crossed over that threshold at some point.
But more or less, what we're subjected to is a
glorified search engine in or anything like that. And this
thing is is taking like political positions, it's taking cultural positions,

(22:06):
and it's being regarded as base.

Speaker 6 (22:08):
Well I'm like I've gotten to the point also where
I'm like, I don't know how much of this is
even real anymore. I know that probably like fifty percent
of the Internet that we're interacting with, and this is
we saw this this morning. I don't know how much
of that it's real, So like I just get like
weird statements. I'm like, I just got to block it.
We've got to like move forward because this is it
could it can drive you crazy.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
I said it on a show once. I said, we're
going to enter a point where AI is going to
muddy the water so much that the only way you're
going to be able to discern reality from fiction is
the Holy Spirit. You're gonna have to be filled with
something that transcends the information warfare that we're all subjected to.

Speaker 7 (22:42):
Right now.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
I'm with you. I'm with you, and that's and that's
why what I was talking about. We did a show
We're talking about AI be ushering in a new age
of folklore because of the way that people are just
getting had online and with all different types of AI
generated stuff now, and it's only gonna get it's not

(23:05):
it's not a nobody's going to be immune to it.
So that's why I think that it's going to get
to a point where any discerning person who understands what
kind of a minefield we're walking through is just going
to be opting. More So, for get togethers outside of
digital forums for a big reason why people like you Yares,

(23:27):
you guys have already done your your event at down
there in Florida. This was in the the works up
here all year. I like that people are getting out
a little bit more. That's why it's important. It's gonna
be it's it's gonna be that totem from Inception where
you know you gotta you gotta spin the top and
test whether or not this is all just real. That's

(23:48):
gonna be the biggest check on the fantasy is whether
or not it plays out in the flesh and blood
world outside of your home. And uh, but you know what,
let's use this to get into debt internet theory because
that's what you guys really getting close to when you
were talking about that. And that's why I threw this
up on the screen. This is one of my favorite

(24:09):
forum posts about the whole thing. The TLD are large
portions of the supposedly human produced content on the Internet
are actually generated by artificial intelligence networks in conjunction with
paid secret media influencers in order to manufacture consumers for
an increasing range of newly normalized cultural products. That is
the basis of this person's talk about debt Internet, but

(24:34):
it's been popping up a lot more lately because whether
it is Fortune magazine or what is this this twenty
twenty four bad Bot report is showing that now a
little bit over half of the global Internet traffic is
non human and it makes you wonder, really does?

Speaker 6 (24:55):
Have you ever spoken to a guy named izzy En
Griffin's A he's kind of like a he's really good
on occult knowledge, but he deals in music mostly and
we just had him on and he's been on timfol
Hat recently as well. But we got deep into this
discussion with him about archetypes specifically, and this relates to
this AI and how the AI is kind of like

(25:15):
changing humanity. So there are about eight major, eight main archetypes,
and those are the ones that you'll see in stories
and myths and they're played out and people know them
and we recreate them because it's like a it's a
natural thing for human beings to embody some of these.
The fool, the hero, you know, the jester. These are

(25:36):
things that people do throughout time and they take them
on and they run with them. But what this computer
age has been doing, and I think it's a lot
of most of it is going to be the fakery
that's going on. This fifty percent of like the internet's fake,
so it's sending out all these messages. The archetypes are
now fracturing and they're creating more archetypes that are not real,

(25:57):
which is why people can't make good movies. They can't
make good media anymore. So, like the things we see
were like I can't even relate to this shit. Like
I'm listening to music, I don't get it because it's
it's not touching on a true archetype, like a logos
that is that will resonate with the human soul. And
I feel like that's a lot about a lot of
what's going on with this AI takeover and the idea

(26:20):
of just flooding the Internet with bots that don't really
I don't even think they care. I think they're just
putting it there. It doesn't have to make sense, it
just has to do.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
You know.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
I realized we were in a bad place when we
were getting inundated with those fake giant pictures. Remember that
it was like Sophia toned images of giants, So it
was like fake photographs alleging to be from the early
you know whatever, nineteen hundreds or something like that, and
it would be like a Sofia tone, like everything's tan,
and it would be a bunch of archaeologists standing around

(26:53):
or somebody like in a Muslim country standing around, and
there's a giant amongst them. But the giant is like
fifteen feet tall. And I said, you know, this is
back when you tell because the fingers were too many,
or just something was a little bit off, the faces
were wrong, and that was only like, dude, that wasn't
even a year ago. But I remember looking at those
and going like, well, you could tell that's AI. Nevertheless, accounts,

(27:13):
big accounts are going, look, here's hard evidence that giants existed.
And then you're watching that go viral and when and
you could kind of get in the comments and you
could say, hey, guys, this isn't real, and some people
would recognize it. It didn't matter, though. You would get
drowned out by the big numbers and you'd watch it go,
you know, viral to the tune of like millions of
hits right, and you'd go, oh my god, this is

(27:35):
right now. What I what I can see through is
tricking the vast majority of people. If this gets dialed
up just a little bit and we're there now. I
was watching a video the other day where the mouth
was synced up to the words, so the words weren't real.

Speaker 6 (27:50):
Was this the video that Frank senters?

Speaker 2 (27:52):
That's right, it was. It was, yeah, and it was
having the Miami male situation, and dude, I'm telling you,
like it was so perfect. Yeah, the audio was synced
up to the mouth movement perfectly, And the only thing
that set me off was like a gut feeling where
I was just like if they were having congressional hearings
about the Miami Mall situation, I think I would have

(28:13):
heard about it.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
Yeah, the Uncanny Valley doesn't even exist anymore. With some
of these things, they're fantastic.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
I mean, we're there. We might have just crossed that
boundary like last week or this month or something like that,
because it is moving so rapidly. They used to watch
Joe Rogan a few years back, and he's going, yeah, man,
and like ten years, you know, we could be in
a really weird place with AI. We got to that
weird place one year ago, and then we blew past
it a couple of months ago, and now I think

(28:41):
we're steeped in it. Who knows what we're seeing that
there's a.

Speaker 6 (28:43):
Lot of with the AI, they've already fractured our archetypes,
the stories that we tell, and that we imbody because
if you have kids, Frank, yes, okay, so your kids
will watch a show and then they become whatever they
watch for like a week. They like to like they're
that person now until they figure out who they are.
But that's who we are as human beings. We see
a story, we copy it. When all the stories are

(29:04):
like retarded and they're copying these things, and not just
them but adults, we're like, we are fractured loss And
then you insert the lie here it.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Is, well, how many how many views does this have? Frank,
I can't see it because you're.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
This one here. I don't even know. Hold on this one.
It's not it's not the metrics are not even put
up there. It's it's liked by somebody and others, and
I only, yeah, it is. It is weird. And that's
the other thing. I knew that there there was no
no testimony, congressional testimony, state or otherwise on this situation,

(29:38):
because well, at least I never saw it. That would
have been big news right there. But I know I
thought that this would be really great too, because now
we're talking about weird fake stuff that's proliferating, but it's
also talking about a cryptid like kind of encounter that
everybody's kind of split on.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
And yeah, it was a real event, frank right, But like, so,
this is what I think happened. I'd love to play
a little bit of this for the audience to see,
like this mouth, you know, audio sync up. It's really incredible.
But really, what I think happened is my wife brought
it to my attention a couple days ago. She goes, hey,
look it's the Miami mall thing, and it was on TikTok.
So I think it organically became viral again on TikTok.

(30:22):
Somebody brought it updated video on it. It was kind
of low information, but it still gained virality. Once it
gained virality, I think then the AI locks onto it
and it goes, let's let's start doing this, Let's start
pumping the algorithm, manipulating it. Let's make some fake you know.
And I don't know that that's at somebody else's behest.
I'm not saying that the but that was significant, the
Miami Mole. Oh yeah, absolutely it was.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
I mean that kicked off a whole year. That kicked
off a big year too. That was January twenty four,
and it was huge. It was all. Just listen to
this for a little bit. This is what was what
was going around. I said, I had to grab this
because I knew that you guys had covered it at
some point. And yeah, listen and fits.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
My testimony will touch on this matter, and I've been
asked to approach with extreme caution. The incident at the
Bayside Marketplace in Miami.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Now to mine, just to say, it didn't look perfect
to me, but the thing, but it looked like it
was just standard definition film. Everything was just kind of
a little bit grainy across the board, so it obfuscated
what was going on around the mouth and the eyebrows
and stuff. But you know, just to be sure, because
I knew you guys had covered this a lot, I
want to send it your way. But still, this is enough,

(31:29):
way more than enough to fool a lot of people.
And as you'll see in the you'll see in the comments,
whether it is real or not, it just reminds people
about something that there is still something very anomalous about
the response to what they said, officially was just a
bunch of rowdy teenagers firing off firecrackers at a mall.
So why'd you send in every last police officer? And

(31:52):
the Miami Police Force was there? Okay?

Speaker 2 (31:54):
So here, I mean, we'll cover it after going.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
January first. Is currently classified and I've been instructed to
refrain from divulging certain details due to the ongoing nature
of the investigation. However, in the interest of transparency, I
will provide what little information I am authorized to share.
A New York resident we will be referring to as Fitz,
was indeed present at the Bayside Marketplace on the night

(32:20):
of the incident. The DoD has confirmed that Fits may
have witnessed something classified. Reports indicate that this individual captured
footage of the event in question, footage that as of
now remains classified and has not been retrieved by the
federal government. This footage, if revealed, could have profound implications.

(32:44):
Not an individual named Fit.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
So of course that's part one, And to have you
gone all over the place to search for part two,
because everything is a re upload. But yeah, where do
you guys want to start with this one.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
You know, it's funny because now that I'm listening with
good headphones, I can hear an audio artifact under his
voice that kind of like is an audio cue? Look, man,
that whole strange thing aside, and for whatever reason that's
going viral, it just couldn't because somebody's trying to farm clicks.
The Miami Mall situation was really strange. I mean, we've got,

(33:16):
you know, a couple of people that were close enough
to the situation to point out to us that there
was some.

Speaker 6 (33:23):
Not idiosyncrasies about power outages. There was internet out for
I think a couple of days.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
There was a no fly zone above the Miami Mall.
I mean, it was like, the whole thing was super strange.
You have a cousin that works in emergency, right, Yeah,
so he works he works in South Florida. But one
of the things that he pointed out that he saw
was that there were only cops and it was just
like a parade of cops that cordoned off the Miami
Mall and they get there, they go, they do their thing,

(33:50):
and it's supposed to look like an emergency. But when
that kind of emergency happens, there's fire, firefighters and ambulance
always trailing. He's a firefighter, so he was like, firefighter's
not there. That's the first thing that stands out.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
What was this thing?

Speaker 6 (34:04):
It was some sort of an operation. And then you
look at like the verbiage behind what that was, and
this is kind of how our show not really came
to be, but like it.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Was definitely a big moment for our show because what
entered the verbal zeitgeist was the phrase nephelum, which you know,
that was what they were calling whatever appeared at the
Miami Mall, if anything did. In fact, yeah, we.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
Were saying nefhlim ship for a while, like we just
pointed it out and it was like a meme and
it was fun. And then this happens and instead of
saying entities or it was like an eight foot tall
shadow being running around the mall.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Shadow being yeah yeah, but they were saying Miami Mall nephlim,
which is fascinating. And if you remember back to the
Las Vegas situation that took place probably only a year
before that, where allegedly a craft landed in the in
the backyard of a Las Vegas residence, home. They they
described them as incredibly tall beings and they were lanky

(34:58):
and all this other stuff, but they just called them aliens.
It was this Las Vegas ufo Las Vegas alien situation.
It had the same vibe. It went viral to the same,
you know degree, and then only a year later, all
of a sudden, the word nefelin is associated with whatever.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Now no, no, no, no, okay. I knew, I knew
it was. I knew it was something else. Here the
Las Vegas thing I'm getting. I'm getting articles dated for
May of twenty four. It was the same year it
started with. It started with Miami, and we got the
we got the Las Vegas. Not only that didn't well,
I think we got the Las Vegas story in the

(35:36):
spring of that year, but we were the Peruvian face
peelers I was talking about that Was that the same
thing too, We're because we're talking about like guys, I
don't know, these humanoid figures that were going around on
hovercrafts in the middle of the jungle out there. I
was talking about that with Timothy Alberino. I think that
might all be that might have been twenty twenty three,

(35:57):
I don't know, But if that was all clustered to
get it was very weird.

Speaker 6 (36:00):
Yeah, so that we got like like just pelted with
this stuff. And Tucker Carlson was also out there as
like a main person and he was this is when
he when he first got off of Fox News and
went to UH by himself and he was saying that
he's like, basically, the world has ignored its spirituality. And
he's talking about his demonic encounter. He's talking about like
in politics, he's talking about nephlim. Yeah, he's he's talking

(36:21):
about nephlom.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
He's actually using the terminology. He's talking to Roseanne bar
he was talking about it. It was all just at
the same time.

Speaker 6 (36:26):
At the same time, we're just being hit hit with
this stuff and it's like, well, why are we being
introduced to this? And then the next age that we
sort of get here is this age of AI, which
is possibly related.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
And I don't know what to make of even that
Peru situation, because as much as you know, Albertino is
very close to the situation there, he goes to Peru
very very often. But the way that it died out,
the way that it came to be, and the way
that it died out as far as our you know,
our attention here in the West is really peculiar.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
It's this idea that there are, yeah, these these entities.
They're hovering through the forest. They are armored in a
way that was described as green Goblin from Spider Man, Right,
They're armored in that way and they're hovering through the jungle. Apparently,
by the time we caught wind of it, they had
been a problem. There had been altercations, several altercations that
even led to, you know, some sort of a fight,

(37:19):
right like a firefight between the Peruvian locals and these entities,
and that they had been struggling with them for some time.
And then you got a bunch of a bunch of
situations that were being attributed to it. I remember there's
a viral picture of a man getting pulled out of
a river and he's got no face. It's just his
bare skull is showing. And to me, I go, I

(37:40):
don't know whether that's a man that died face down
in a river. And then these things ate his face,
you know, whatever it is in the water ad his face.
But they're attributing it to these these face peelers. They
even have a girl that they rescued midway through the process,
that she was having this procedure done to her procedure.
I mean, that's a a great way to put it.

(38:01):
She's being attacked by these entities and she's in the
middle of having it happen. They intervene and they actually
rescue her, and there's pictures that come out of them
to taking this girl out of the jungle. She's crying,
she's bleeding from the side of the head. And then
it just goes away. It just goes away. I don't
know what. I don't know how they rectify the face
peeler situation in Peru, but we are being peppered. Yeah,

(38:23):
you're right for that time period with all of these things,
and then it just goes silent. And now it feels
like we're at the precipice of it happening again. You know,
we're talking about Toulsa Gabbard. She's saying there's gonna be
UFO disclosure coming. NASA is saying that there's some sort
of massive craft on the horizon that's due to.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Arrive in November.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah, and by the way, it's gonna be hostile. We
were reading the articles yesterday or the day before they're
saying it's gonna be hostile, and I'm like, how are
you even making that assessment? It is the fog of war.
I don't know what to make of these things. Here
you go, you're interstellar object.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Besides, is it Avi Lobe who's talking about this?

Speaker 5 (39:03):
Though?

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Let me see. A newly discovered Manhattan sized interstellar object
zooming through our Solar system has been identified as a comet,
but two Harvard scientists argue there's a reason to believe
it's really an alien probe. NASA discovered thirty one Atlas
on July first, speeding through inner Solar System at one
hundred and forty thousand miles an hour, according to observations

(39:25):
from Atlas telescope in Chile. But let's see here, there
you go. Harvard astrophysicist Avi Lobe this suggested in a
new paper that the object, only the third interstellar object
ever detected, could be an intelligently directed alien craft observing
Earth with possibly hostile intentions. Now, as far as how

(39:45):
he how he assigns motive, I don't know, But you know,
when you think about two. December twenty seventeen was a
very big month of uptick and shift in how the
media and the government covers interstellar, intergalactic, interdimensional travel, UFOs,

(40:07):
all that stuff. That's when we got the TIC TAC disclosures.
And that's also when Amuamua was moving through the Solar
System that they I think that's like a Polynesian for
war scout. They said that this was a this was
a foreign object that was coming in, it was accelerating.

(40:28):
It seemed like it could have been some sort of
a probe. And they called it a war scout, somebody
that goes ahead of a you know, a war party.
And now I guess this might be the the the extinguishers,
the terminators that are following the scout. That's what they're saying.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
I mean, this feels like the movie signs not to
I mean, it's like I think they borrow all this
from a Hollywood script. If you remember when he goes
it's all theater at the highest levels. When they when
he goes to the army recruitment center Merle I think
was his name, when swing Away Merle. Yeah, Merle goes
to the to the army recruitment center, and and you
know they're talking about the UFOs and their appearances and

(41:04):
the crop circles, and he's saying the officer there, that's
that the recruitment center is saying that he believes the
way the nature of this is like they're sending out
scouts to see if it's all clear, and then merle goes, uh,
all clear for what? And he goes for the rest
of them. Right, So we have the same thing where
it's like, you know ummu, however it's pronounced is yeah,

(41:25):
they're deciding that it's some sort of a scout, which
is like, man, how in the world do you jump
to that conclusion based off of what it's movement? It's
movement in because we have experience with uh, you know,
interstellar travelers scouting us, we would have a pattern recognition
to set up for this. It doesn't you know, that's
that seems unlikely. And then yet to attribute some sort

(41:47):
of a reconnaissance aspect to UMMU. And then here we
are years later and it's like the fruits of Ua
Mahmu's labor are are coming to for it means.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
At about don't insult them on top of it. Here
the paper that they had put together presented it in
part as a pedagogical experiment embraces the dark Forest hypothesis
regarding alien life, which assumes that other intelligent life would

(42:17):
likely view earthlings as a threat that needed to be
snuffed out. The dark Forest hypothesis, coined in two thousand
and eight novel The Dark Forest by six and Loo
if I'm saying that right, is a direct rebuttal to
the Fermi paradox, which suggests that contact with extraterrestrial intelligences
is impossible.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
So yeah, I think they pepper it with all sorts
of terminology to just make it sound like it's some
profound thing. I don't I don't buy into it. We
get our news from the People's Voice, which you checked themselves.
They fact checked themselves. The People's Voice has a fact
checking group. If you say who is the fact checking group,
and they go, it's the People's Voice. And so if

(42:59):
you go to that public which is seemingly from the
outside looking and I'm not trying to besmirge the People's
Voice here, but it seems to be schizo boomers that are,
you know, into conspiracies, but they are jumping to the
natural conspiracy conclusion, which is that NASA is getting ready
to launch some fake you know, alien invasion, and what
that will do is galvanize us all to one world order,

(43:21):
one world government, in order to protect us from these
would be space invaders. And there are those within the
Christian community who actually believe that that image that you
had up on the screen before that is a series
of rainbow lights, which is really just a time lapse
photo of one light. But nevertheless, they talk about how
the New Jerusalem is described in the Bible as being

(43:42):
like a rainbow in its visage and those lights that
you saw, so New Jerusalem is supposed to be, you know,
it's described as a sort of a flying city. So
there are those who believe that we will bear witness
to you know, New Jerusalem arriving on the horizon of
all this ship. Yeah, and we will deem it a
a mother ship or you know, an alien invasion and
and and you know that will attack Jesus's.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
You know, I don't even know how to to respond
to any of it, to be honest.

Speaker 6 (44:14):
Frank, I'm starting to get why the people this morning
were like, I don't like these guys, that's why.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
On Twitter, On Twitter, Frank got a lot of pushback
when he said we're gonna have a Nephelin desk squad
on and people went hiss.

Speaker 6 (44:23):
I was just watching David talk and I was thinking,
I don't like this.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
They don't like what I just send me off.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
He's pissing me off. No, I don't think it was.
You know what, Hey, November is going to come and
go and we're going to see who shows up.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
You know.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
When I saw that that was I don't know what
that say in the New York Post article was July
twenty third. When I saw that headline, you know that
that I look, I said, I said, thank you, please
let this be true. Thank you please, Because at this point,
if we can all just check out together, uh, in

(45:01):
the middle of a huge interstellar battle or something like that,
I would feel I would feel a comfy.

Speaker 8 (45:08):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
I mean like, okay, let's we're all together. Obviously God's
involved with this somehow, and we're you know, let's just
do the let's do our best. And if we all
get ray gunned out of existence and turned into into
crispy critters, then what then whatever? And at least the
bullshit would stop. At least I don't have to at
least I don't have to watch Jasmine Krockett talk bullshit
on on on the the the internet anymore or something

(45:32):
like that.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Frank, Yeah, I got some bad news for you, man.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
What's up?

Speaker 6 (45:36):
That's not happening, David. David likes to waste a lot
of time looking at bullshit like this.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
It's fun.

Speaker 6 (45:42):
What is happening is, uh, they're doing Nefhelm experiments on
rabbits in Colorado. Uh, which probably come from some deep
underground military bases. Oh a dumb, Yeah, some dumbs which
are probably hidden in the wilderness of.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Canada. Of Canada. I don't know if you know this. Frank.
You can't go to Canada. You can't go to the
forest without getting fined twenty eight thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
We talked last night. Yeah, what do you think about that?
Are you talking about the the the tentacle faces or
you're talking about Canada.

Speaker 6 (46:15):
I think it's cute. I think the tentacle faces is
rather standard.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
Guess, very disgusting when I look at these, uh, these
poor rabbits with the black tentacle faces and and the
the you know, everybody tentacles are horns growing for their heads.
Spotted in Fort Collins. All of the media that I
found this like nine Channel nine news. It's an NBC affiliate.
Nobody talks about the actual name of the virus. The

(46:40):
virus is called Chope papaloma virus or shop papaloma virus.
And this is actually the truth behind the myth of
the jackalobe. And you know, obviously it's getting around. Hold on,
let me see here if I can get a little
bit it's uh no on second.

Speaker 8 (47:03):
Growth, Look, I also saw this photo posted on reading.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
So that poor thing's face is almost all gone, so.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
Spotted important talents, like a scabbyish looking kind of.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Growth over her face.

Speaker 9 (47:15):
Looks like it was black quills or black toothpicks sticking
out all around his mouth.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
Susan Mansfield said she saw a different bunny with tentacles
in her yard in recent years.

Speaker 9 (47:28):
He had this same black stuff on him and I
thought he would die off during the winter, but he didn't.
He came back a second year and it grew.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
I gotta tell you, man, I'm to the point now
where like I'm watching that old woman talking, I'm like,
is she even real?

Speaker 3 (47:43):
She It's gonna get to the point, I mean, because
because that's yeah, we've been fed even more non, I mean, uh,
inconsequential media already people just every day. I mean I
remember there was a compilation of fake birthday parties, fake

(48:03):
birthday parties like seventy five seventy seven year old men
and women getting their birthday cakes brought to them by
their fake grandchildren. We're talking about completely inconsequential shit that
we have been flooded with. And when you think about
how you don't even believe. If you get to a
point where we don't even believe that most of the

(48:24):
birthday surprise videos on the internet could be completely authentic,
then what the hell are people ever going to think
about the news or some other kind of scandal that
pops up. And I don't know, man, well, I.

Speaker 6 (48:40):
Believe I believe this rabbit stuff. It seems like some
sort of genetic experiment.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
This is real and it went wrong. This is real,
and it's just what strikes.

Speaker 6 (48:49):
Me about it is that like this might have been
something that was in a lab that gets out affects
rabbits in a certain way, and it creates this weird
genetic mutation where they're growing horns or things that are
not usual for the species. They're now developing and that's like,
that's just neflin stuff, that's like hybrid programming. And then
we got down this rabbit hole about what's going on

(49:11):
with Canada, the Canadian government. They're not letting people into
the national parks. And then you start to think about
the missing four one one, and we came across Wow, we.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Came across something that is unprovable. Unprovable. Now, now there
are conventional explanations, and that's where we deal. We deal
in the unprovable. There are conventional explanations, right. Obviously, the
Canadian wildfires are the conventional explanation for not going in
forest had any just being Canada, Yeah, true, it being
a police state, but baby. And then here in America

(49:40):
we have our national parks where, yeah, there is a
plethora of missing persons. And by the way, we've seen
an uptake in those missing persons by fifteen to twenty
percent over the past I think a year alone. That's fascinating.
I don't know what to do with that. But they're
flying the flag upside down as a symbol of distress.
But if you look into that conventional explanation that is
dismissed as lack of funding and lack of staff, and

(50:03):
so that is so damning that the existing staff has
decided to you know, fly the flag upside down, and
some of the staff has been or the park rangers
have actually been prosecuted for that. But we at Nephlin
Death Squad, we choose an alternative explanation. And uh, there
seems to be this idea going around on the internet
that there are these programs, uh in these deep underground

(50:23):
military bases where they are doing all the things they
say they're not doing on the surface, like chimeric creations. Right,
we're not in America. We don't make man pigs. I
don't do it. We don't we make we outsource it. Well,
we don't make man pigs. China makes man.

Speaker 6 (50:39):
But now we're making we're making a rabbit.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Well that's the idea is that underground, subterranean laws are different.
It's like, uh, you know in the ocean maritime law, right,
so so so you know, beneath the surface, we're making
these chimeric nightmare creatures. And uh, and I know this
is all going to sound wild, but there's a program allegedly,
say allegedly called Dan right, and it's a playoff of

(51:03):
Eden the Garden of Eden and and dan is a
is a CIA funded operation that creates all these chimeric
creatures and they've had quite a bit of success. These
aren't monstrosities that have to be hooked up to tubes
to survive. These are functioning, living, breathing creatures.

Speaker 6 (51:17):
Well, this it also explains the not not just the uptick,
but the the explanation of why you would see or
why cryptids are reported as being seen around national parks
and also a military base. No, right, and that that
that's true unprovable, but it's true.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
No, I mean, it's not that it's.

Speaker 6 (51:34):
Unprovable, but like if you take a hot spot of
where people have seen these things, they're all around military base.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
It turns out if you listen to a show like
let's say Tony Merkle's The Confessionals, if you listen to that,
you will find over you know, a thousand episodes. However,
many testimony are given and people seeing strange things in
the woods, a pattern emerges. One of those patterns is
either national parks or military bases, and so there's a
huge overlap between seeing these things and being at those places.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Have you, guys been able to have you guys ever
been able to have a conversation with David David Politis, No,
he U.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
I don't think he likes us. I've actually been told
that he wouldn't like us very much as what they said,
because I reached out to him and somebody said, hey, dude,
you're barking up the wrong tree. That guy does not
like you. And you know, a lot of people don't
like us, and for good reason. Maybe they're proving it
out right right now.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
I guess I should should I be talking to you
guys as often as I know.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
I don't know if you've realized this is a terrible
move for your reputation, and then inviting us to your
your soire really a huge hit to your to yours.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
To my reputation. I was one thing, well, hey, listen,
you know what, whenever I see people talking about cryptid
and stuff like that, I'd naturally say, all right, well there,
let me bring We've never had it. We've never had
anything but fun conversations about, you know, diving into them.
By the way, Jerry Marzinski is coming on this show

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on on Thursday night to talk about uh schizophrenia and
UH we just.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Got an email about Jerry Marsen moments before this show
started as well.

Speaker 6 (53:02):
We're gonna be having him back on as well.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
But I mean, like twelve minutes ago.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Well, I mean, honestly, if you guys have any any well,
let's see if you're gonna have them on, I guess
you'll you'll be able to ask your own follow up.
So I was gonna say, if you had any questions
you wanted to pass along for me to put into
my notes, it shouldn't them. You're gonna lie. I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Your audience is going to love them.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
I can't wait. You know, there's so much is really
tied into what we're talking about with the with the
dead Internet theory thing alone, and I'm gonna think I'm
gonna jump into that into the second half after we
wrap up here. But you know, between the between the
the the the what's you call the horn virus, and
of course the Miami situation, there's just so many things

(53:45):
that it really makes you wonder about, especially from twenty
twenty four onward. Such a crazy way to kick it
all off. And I think about Mandela effect as well,
and whether or not people are remembering things or misremembering things.
I saw this recently. We were talking about it during

(54:05):
extra innings last week, and I figure, I ask you
guys too, because I think really perception, reality, questioning ourself
is all kind of linked and hand in hand here.
But there was a The latest I saw on Mandela
effect was the statue David Michelangelo's David. Apparently people are
saying that he never had pupils at all, let alone

(54:29):
heart shaped pupils that were carved out. And now he
has not only pupils, but almost a little bit more
of a grimace in his face than he had in
the past. And there's all these debates, as you usually
have with Mandela stuff. I just wonder, first of all,
what do you think about that? But then we're just
you and I. We never talked about Mandela in particular.

(54:52):
Glitches Are they edits? What the hell do you think? Man?

Speaker 6 (54:57):
That's a I'll tell you right now.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Though I know for a fact that he had no pupils.
It was just a white sphere.

Speaker 6 (55:04):
It's a white sphere. Yeah, I mean most Roman statues
were well, I mean some were, but I did study
art in in high school and yeah no, but now
do you say heart shaped pupils?

Speaker 3 (55:15):
They look they look heart shaped. Now, hold on a second. Uh,
that's bizarre.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Hold dude, look oh that's jarring to look at.

Speaker 6 (55:24):
Yeah, no, that's not that's it was never like that dog.
And yeah, his face wasn't like that either.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
This is weird.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Yeah, he had like a much much more relaxed face,
like a much uh much more elegant, almost like he
just killed a giant. Right, yeah, yeah, like you wouldn't
look bummed out about that.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
This is what and this is the latest. This is
the latest in those who are tracking whether or not.
You know, we're doing a little bit of timeline jumping
over here, and and it popped up. I said, oh damn,
this is pretty compelling stuff. I've never seen it up close.
I've only known it through textbooks and magazines. And honestly,
if you were to quiz me on whether or not
he pupils at all a couple of weeks ago, I

(56:02):
would say, oh, damn, I don't know, but I would
probably go with no. But apparently there are people who
have studied this damn thing who are convinced that these
these engraved pupils did not exist.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
See so all right, not long ago we started to
really be introduced in pop culture to the concept of
the multiverse, and I admittedly have been very resistant to
it because I just don't I don't know. It just
seems like such a wild leap to flesh out this
entire world and say they're they're definitely alternate realities. The

(56:40):
timeline branches and each one goes into its different direction,
and and then of course the Mandela effect only really
operates on that premise. And I look at Hollywood, and
I look at the way like the Avengers and everything
has served us up the multiverse, and it's in children's entertainment,
and and I kind of look at it as like
this this propaganda piece, And I don't know why. I mean,
to be honest, Frank, A lot of my research I

(57:02):
only moved towards things that my gut moves me towards.

Speaker 6 (57:04):
And and so when it comes to like the idea
of the multiverse, a little bit of waste I have been.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
I've gotten show they're saying a lot of people are
saying I'm fat, and it actually hurts quite a bit,
And I wish you wouldn't say that on Frank Show.
But but I do feel as though it's I don't know.
I'm just I'm just gonna say it. I feel like
the multiverse thing is bullshit.

Speaker 6 (57:24):
However, there are they are playing with the timeline. I mean,
we've we had a guy, John Kerwin on and he people.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
People were real mad at John Kurble.

Speaker 6 (57:33):
They didn't like that, but he was he was pointing
out examples in the Bible where there's been Mandela effects.
And I've read the Bible since I don't know, seven,
maybe even younger, and you know, I I've become rusty
on it, and I've started reading it again and I'm like,
I don't remember this.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Yeah, it's like this idea of like who who who
lays with the sheep? Yeah, and and and everybody says like, uh.

Speaker 6 (57:54):
The lion and the what And you say, oh, the
lion and the lamb, and it's like, no, it's actually
the wolf and the lamb, the.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Wolf in the lamb, the wolf in the lamb.

Speaker 6 (58:01):
And I'm like, Jacob wrestled with an angel. I thought
Jacob wrestled with God. And then you go back and
you read the scripture and you're like, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Yeah, there's a lot of that, and look, I don't know,
maybe you know a lot of people say that that's
just like from one translation to the next, but he's
saying and that that whole like wolf with the lamb
thing threw me for a loop, as somebody.

Speaker 6 (58:19):
It's like the line and I used to play in
the church and I was like, that's.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Apparently it's not the case. You go and look at
the Bible and it's going to tell you that it's
the wolf in the lamb. So I don't know. I
recognize that the Mandela effect gives backing to the whole
multiverse thing, but even still in my skepticism, I remember
things being a certain way, Like the cornucopia on Fruit
of the Loom was there. There was a cornic copia,
there was a big horn that was overflowing with fruit,

(58:44):
and that was on the logo.

Speaker 6 (58:45):
Britney Spears dress was the one dude that one really
throws me through a loop.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Britney had a plaid skirt in the original and if
you go and you look, it's no, it's not a
plaid skirt. It's a black skirt.

Speaker 6 (58:55):
It's always been black. But I think what we're looking
at stresses me out.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
I thought it was fun.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
What was that?

Speaker 3 (59:01):
I thought it was plaid. It wasn't.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Apparently it's black. It's black. Yeah, I'm gonna do a
Google right now, but I'm pretty dang sure it's black.

Speaker 6 (59:08):
It's like these small things that they keep changing for
whatever reason.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
And I don't know.

Speaker 6 (59:13):
I think it has something to do with the large
hedg Ron collider, uh sir. And every time they power
that thing back up. They did it in twenty sixteen,
we get Trump, they did it again recently I think
last year, late last year, and then we just continue
to get these anomalies.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Yeah, but it don't get changs only slightly. Yeah, dude,
it's black.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
Here.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
Here's the thing with this, with this, what I am
and again, because we're talking about a little bit about
dead Internet, I'm going to put a little bit more
onto the record when we go come back on the
other on the other end of the break, is that
there there is something to be said about how easy
it is to AstroTurf us and to give us, to

(59:51):
give a small amount of people enough confidence in any
one thing where that is what they one hundred know
that they remember when when they didn't, and then it
becomes a religious I use the word religious because it's
they are just loyal to a religious contingent of people
who are always saying this is the way something was,

(01:00:13):
and uh, and perhaps there is there there are some
really bona fide screwy things that have been have been
edited out of our timeline and only a little bit remains,
and who the hell knows. Maybe maybe it's different for
some people and all that, because consciousness is largely an
individual thing and we have competing realities and it's all

(01:00:33):
just kind of kaleidoscopic and in some ways. But I
don't know, I really think that it's it's pretty easy
to get a lot of people believing outland of shit
now that we have just been able to spend the
last two decades doing nothing but hanging out on the internet.
And I mean you see where people who were once

(01:00:55):
discerning have just completely mailed it in in some respects.
So that it's just something I think about all the time,
though it is it is it is pretty interesting, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
I think about that a lot, because you know, we
have been on the internet for for a long time now,
and that means that a lot of our entertainment throughout
four years.

Speaker 6 (01:01:15):
Actually it's very interesting. AOL is finally shutting down there
on September.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Oh are they I didn't even know it.

Speaker 6 (01:01:21):
Was still the end of September. It'll be shutting and
I feel like that's weird again. I feel like you
should touch on that, Frank when that happens, because it's
an end of an error, but not just an end
of an error, but it's like it almost feels like
we're in for something.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
It's the end of the beginning of the end, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
There's ways, but that's just AOL getting rid of it
is depending on where you are, telephone connectivity is probably
there's probably going to be a lot of people who
still use it in summer. I imagine that there are
people out there using fifty six k's still and I
am yeah. But September thirtieth is when AOL says no
to telephone modem connectivity. And that's uh. I wonder who's

(01:02:00):
going to make officially the last call on AOL.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
I wonder if there's a way, if you could just
stay on the Internet if they don't boot you off.
There were some people on a server for like Halo
one or something like that for the longest time, and
it was like the server ended years ago. But they
stayed in the game, and they knew if they left it,
it was going to shut down and it was going
to be over, and so they just kept People were
sleeping in shifts and they were staying on and until
the last person dropped off.

Speaker 6 (01:02:24):
Here's a psychotic thought in the movie The Matrix, which
is my favorite documentary. The way they escaped the Matrix
they went back and forth was to pick up this landline.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
And those don't exist anymore, Doug, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:02:36):
They don't exist. And now this landline that AOL was
using is now going to be defunct, and that was
like a major one, but there are still other ones.
I just wonder how much those young ladies knew when
they wrote that those young ladies so sweet?

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Yeah, young ladies. Yeah. Man, I don't know. I don't
know where this all goes. Because the question that I'm
forced to ask myself, Frank, is like, what do what
is gained by shaking our confidence in our own memory
to that degree? I don't know, you can really fracture
the memory.

Speaker 6 (01:03:10):
Well, it's like, why why do you continue to change
the time. When they changed the year, the New Year's
was April first, and then they started calling people April
fools when they changed the gree growing calendar to January first,
because the people who wouldn't comply, instead of calling them
conspiracy theorists, they'd say that, and you know JFK's death.
If you didn't believe that, well nine to eleven, if
you don't believe that, COVID, if you don't believe that.

(01:03:31):
And it's just a continual chipping away of what is real.
But I think time is a big one. If they
can disorient you enough to not know that, you don't
know where you are, then the rest is all just cake.
And that's kind of what's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Well, I think at a very basic level, if you
I mean, I mean that, it is such a you
want to talk about micro management? Okay, Well, this year
we're going to make sure everybody gets the Star Wars
line wrong, and next year we're taking we're going to
screw with the Fruit of the Loom memories.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
What is the what is the Star Star Wars? Look,
it's Luke. I am your father right?

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
He says that. He says, Obi Wan never told you
about what happened to your father or something. He says,
he told me enough, He told me you killed him. No, Luke,
I don't know. I don't even know. To be honest,
I don't know I am your father, and I heard
that that's not the case. He says, I am your father.
The question is whether or not he says, no, Luke,

(01:04:29):
I am your father, or no, I am your father.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
What it is?

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
And I don't you know what. I don't even give
a shit. It's it's one of those I don't remember exactly.
I'll go check it later. But I see. That's why
I said, if this is real, if it really is
an effect of some other you you mentioned cern before
and popping on the Hadron collider, if it really is

(01:04:57):
an effect, it has to just be one of those
things where, you know, in the process of some much
bigger alteration and time and space, there are just a
couple of screws that come loose that are totally inconsequential otherwise,
because what what the hell significance is it? Okay, the
next year we're going to change the Berenstain bears, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Well, maybe that's it, Frank, Maybe it's not about Maybe
that's just a byproduct. Maybe the goal isn't to fracture, Yeah,
our own memory of reality. Maybe it's it's a byproduct
of them trying to achieve something. Yeah, that's but it's
probably I'm asking the wrong question here.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
That's that's what I always assumed. I always assume if
it is some sort of a h a result of
technological adventurism quantum mechanical craziness, then it would just be
like a side effect, not and not like, well we
have to go change the stupid pop culture trivia question.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
And they're trying to figure out it's like AI, they're
trying to find a timeline where they win when Jesus
returns and this whole war happens. They're trying to find
a timeline where they win and they're not judged.

Speaker 6 (01:06:12):
Maybe it's I mean, it could also be that when
you manipulate something, it becomes pixelated. So if you put
a pixelated image into AI and you say clean it up,
it'll take those pictures, those pixels where it's like a
question mark, and it'll be like, maybe you meant this,
maybe you meant a black dress.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
I don't fucking know. I wasn't there.

Speaker 6 (01:06:30):
And that's kind of what that's kind of what they
give us back there.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
Like was this here? Well whatever guy's ever did you
guys ever talk about Bill Wood and Project looking Glass?

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Oh, we've talked a bit about Project looking Glass. I
wasn't familiar with the guy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Who I remember, I remember I think his name was
Bill Wood. It was one of the more famous interviews
of his from years ago, and his explanation for why
the looking glass technology, you know, what was going on
with that is that the people in charge have been
constantly testing new ways to go about this to avoid

(01:07:07):
some large, major catastrophe that is coming to the world
order of things. And when he was asked about, well,
what is what is this catastrophe that that people who
you know have this technology are trying to avoid that
they're trying to test. Okay, if we go this route,
we make this decision, where does it lead us whatever,
he was saying that it wasn't a end of the

(01:07:28):
world physically. It wasn't, you know, the end of end
of time. It was the end of their world that
no matter that there are the people in charge right now,
according to him years ago, I forget when hell, well
over a decade or so that they were testing with
the look looking glass technology, which timeline was going to

(01:07:49):
help them better get better get past either a mass awakening,
a rising of consciousness, are you know, a big, big
reversion act toward you know, worshiping God and getting back
to God knowing, you know, just just seeing how how
bad we were in his absence and all that, whatever

(01:08:09):
the hell it was that gave these people firm footing
in the world that they have created right now that
they're still managing and very poorly creating, as you said before,
all that chaos, to to make sure that we're we're
too preoccupied with that to be able to form any
kind of real resistance or at least quickly working against
the clock. That's what he was saying. That it was

(01:08:30):
that they're they are testing timelines to try to avoid
what is the end of their world and their time
to have control of it. So whether or not that
means a new millennial reign of Christ or something like that,
it's it's up to anybody's interpretation. But it's interesting that.

Speaker 6 (01:08:48):
They're doing it all, Frank. They're changing timelines, they're digging
tunnels to create their underground basis for when things go down,
they're trying to get off planet. There's a they're speaking
of a polar shift and I think one of the
biggest things that's something I think about often is they say, uh,
there's gonna be what do they call that, like a
bomb that will take out all of the electricity.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
They like an EMP, like a solar flare or something
like that.

Speaker 6 (01:09:12):
Right, that's gonna yeah, this is one of their biggest fears,
and it's gonna kill everyone in the world. And I'm like,
sounds like it's just gonna knock out all the electricity,
all the technology, and all this technology is where these
guys exist. They exist on the internet in this fake place.
They exist in our you know, in all the electrical
lines and all the communication and data data points that
kind of pervert this. Well, they make it convenient for us,

(01:09:33):
and I love to use this stuff, but in reality,
it's like without this they're kind of powerless to spread
their propaganda.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
So what is an EMP.

Speaker 6 (01:09:41):
It's just like an overload of light, and well what
is light? It was like, is that God that would
that would set them back?

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Right, because we often speculate that the the entire technological
race to get to the point where we can create
a large hydron collider and smash together their particles and
open up portals and shift timelines. Is because there is
something inspiring and from another realm, right, Uh, what's her name?
Luna Ana Pola, Luna Anna Polina. Luna makes this post
and it's this basically this diagram, and she's saying that,

(01:10:09):
like fallen angels exist in a in a data realm,
which is a wild thing for her to say, but
it's fascinating.

Speaker 6 (01:10:14):
And then she goes back to posting like bikini pictures
like all right, okay, okay, but distraction, well if you yeah,
exactly right, and that's a weird thing to do, like, hey.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Look at this, now, look about the angels. But let's
say that that's true. You run with this idea? Is like,
is that what has been inspiring man for all of
these millennia to create technology?

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Ancient man said that gods gave them agriculture and metallurgy
and things like that. The Greek said that the muses
inspired their great works of art. Uh. Stephen King says
he drinks a lot and demons tell him to write books.
So it's like all these different things throughout time that
people are attributing the inspiration for their great works to
these things that exist in another realm? Do they exist

(01:10:56):
in a data realm? Are we talking that the fallen
are there? It would be a real ship show for
them if we did have a solar flare of some
sort and it did knock out the technology, and they're like.

Speaker 6 (01:11:06):
Browler shift that knocks out the technologies, like all this stuff,
And we.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Were this close to having mankind open up a portal
and led us through.

Speaker 6 (01:11:12):
This tower of babble that you've been building. It's gonna
get knocked, it's gonna get smacked down, and they know that.
But God bless them, man, they're they.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
They're trying, they're trying their ass off. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
Well, I think they got until November before before the
real chaperon. Are the real chaperones come that?

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Shout out UMMU for the great work on the reconnaissance.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
I know all we found them all listen to please
with this the perfect time. They're all diddling themselves and
questioning their gender. Let's invade now, let's invade now. Oh
it's just so nuts. Well, listen, boys, it was awesome
to have you on again right before you know. Actually,
we're gonna see each other in a couple of weeks.
It's gonna be really really grand to be fun. It
really is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
I still don't know how to dress.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
Get get go to old Navy, get yourself, get yourself
anything that isn't one step up from jeans?

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Can I wear my jays like golden sneakers? Can I
wear my golden figure it out.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
I don't you know anything? What was what is Raven wearing?
What are you wearing? Jeans?

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
I'm wearing black jeans and black golden air masks. This
is a no go for sure. I know you can't
wear you can not Maybe to a jamboree, but not
a soiree.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
No no, no, no, yeah, jamboree. That's when you have
apple dunking or we have to be able to eat apple?
What is what do they call it? Bobbing for apples?
We're gonna bob for you know, I've never bobbed for
apples in my life. That'd be great. You know, it's September,
it's September. It would be appropriate, seasonally appropriate to get
people bobbing for apples. And it's September.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
You get cold in New York and in September. I
haven't lived I've been living in this tropical climate. Enjoying
this warm weather for so long.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
I'm hoping. I am hoping well. All this week, for example,
we are we're around upper eighties, low nineties, and at
night time we're dropping to sixty five to seventy, which
is beautiful. So I'm hoping that that September sixth, we
are we're we're hovering around upper sixties and everybody is
just having a nice, crisp, cool, awesome evening. It'll be fine.

(01:13:11):
I'm I'm I'm confident it'll be fine. But listen, let
everybody know when you're gonna be live next, what you
got coming up? And do all your plugs.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Man, we're gonna be live again tomorrow. Right tomorrow. We're
doing neflin Besk Squad chronicles. We have schizophrenics. They send
us their their supernatural testimonies. We read them, we ridicule them,
but sometimes they have fascinating information and so you know,
if you've had yourself a paranormal experience.

Speaker 6 (01:13:38):
We're live.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
We're live almost every day.

Speaker 6 (01:13:40):
Every day we're in the grind either a guest, we're
reading listener emails, which is our chronicle show very it's
it's informant.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
It's chronicles. Nds at gmail dot com. If you're a schizophrenic,
you want to submit. We're going to be doing a
new like kind of spinoff of the news. Yeah, man,
we're gonna do fake news, some real news, fake news.
We'll mix it up. You decide whatever you but we're grinding.

Speaker 6 (01:14:01):
Find us at nephlum Desk Squad on YouTube, rumble, pretty
much anywhere audio listen to us there. Check out toplobster
dot com. That's my website. That's where I put all
my brand new T shirts. I just dropped a bunch
of nice, super cool designs. Yeah, if you know what,
just go look at the website. Don't even buy anything.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Yeah. Also, you can come to Twitter and you could
also hate us there. I'm at David Olcorbo on Twitter.
He's at top Lobster on Twitter, and you could. You'll
find us there and you'll go, why does Frank continue
to have these people on?

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
I listen? You know, I just, I just I'm on
a path here, man, What am I gonna do? I
don't care. I just as long as the conversation flows
and I'm able to talk about all the weird stuff
that I like, I like diving into. Then I'm happy,
and I'm I'm looking forward to your fifth appearance sometime
in the you know, the closer to Halloween. It'll be

(01:14:52):
great to have you back on. We'll think of something
really spooky. In fact, maybe what we'll do is we
will start a thread and we will cope. I'll start
a thread on my forum and we will co promote
it and get all of your people, my people to
get onto the forum post and put in like their
personal ghost stories and things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Excellent, that's an excellent Uh wow, yeah, I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Well, we wear what should we wear that night?

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
It could be that night. It'll be sweats. We'll do
sweats that night, and and and and pumpkin sweaters, sweaters
that looks like jack o' lanterns. That's nice.

Speaker 7 (01:15:30):
I got it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
I got it all right, boys, have a good one.
Thanks for coming by, Take it easy for having us.
There you go, Lobster and Raven. They are with a
brand new set. Man, they came, they came. They came
decorating decorative. Imagine that. I'm doing some new things to

(01:15:51):
the set over here, though the actual cameras. I was
thinking about that too. I would love to get an
establishing shot of the room. I have a camera up
in that corner, but you know it's a security camera,
so if I patch into it, it's not going to
be the best quality. But I would love to get
an establishing shot of the room a little bit more

(01:16:13):
and work that in. But because there's so much to
look at it here, as many of you will see
in a couple in a couple of weeks before I
went live tonight, I was actually in the other room
and I perfectly. I got my acoustic drum set all
set up nicely. It is in tip top condition. So
that's all good now. I will, I will, I'll be

(01:16:36):
making alterations for the rest of the room for the
rest of the week. It's gonna be good, all right,
real quick, when we come back from this very quick intermission,
this is what I'm giving away tonight. My cousin Sherry
always delivers some really great retro stuff. And since we're
talking about a little bit of space tonight, any Space
Invaders coming to take you out. Anybody who sends a

(01:16:58):
super chat through the YouTube through quite frankly superchat dot Com,
the Rumble Rants and the Gold Pills, you are in
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it is said to be the authoritative illustrated handbooked on technology,

(01:17:24):
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Look at this the Saturn five. It doesn't matter if
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waste of time that NASA's been draggoning us along. Then

(01:17:45):
this boondoggle, this big, this big sy op. Have a
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(01:18:09):
there's Taylor Swift, It's They're hilarious, awesome. You can get
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down to August. I think this is August nineteen sixty five,
exploring the unknown. This is awesome. Lobster and Raven will
actually love this. Numbers rule the Universe, his evil ideay,

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of England. There's so many awesome things here, including wonderful
old advertisements and things like that from nineteen sixty five,
ghost stories and paranormal investigations OG paranormal investigations that did
not have any outlet like YouTube to talk about it.

(01:19:15):
So tomorrow I'll be giving these away with a super
chat raffle. But tonight we got oh you know what,
and I'll be giving away an album, an album Sky
Goes On by my band because it's got a spacey
kind of a feel to the whole thing. So tonight
you're getting this Moonport USA book, the patch. That's what's happening.

(01:19:41):
All right, we'll be right back. Don't go anywhere.

Speaker 7 (01:19:45):
September sixth, quite frankly, event I want to see you there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Get dressed.

Speaker 5 (01:19:55):
You're going.

Speaker 8 (01:20:01):
To welcome to intermission. Yeah, Anomissions.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Can't carry you.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
Say, Okay, so listen to this. Thank you Shane. Shane's

(01:21:30):
always very supportive over there in the YouTube chat room,
says great show, Frank, Well, thank you Shane. And I
would like to also say that Shane contributed to a
wonderful piece of merchandise that is now available on the
Merchandise store, and that is the Good Fella's shirt but
with me and Matt, thank you for that Shane and Shane.

(01:21:51):
Also we have it ready to go for October.

Speaker 7 (01:21:53):
We have a.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Fall an autumn shirt that Shane designed, really really great.
I can't wait to own and wear that one. Change
the man. I really appreciate him, truly appreciate him. Let
me see, all right, so take a listen to this.

(01:22:16):
I know that we've done the topic of dead Internet
theory before, but it's it's coming up again. And since
we're talking about astroturfing things, we're talking about people misremembering things,
and now the AI element that is so much more prevalent.
Artificial intelligence was part of the base theory about what
all where this all came to be and when the

(01:22:39):
Internet became a lot less organic. Now, what I would
say is that there's a lot of great input here
about just what is happening to people as the Internet changes.
For example, if you go back to you know, the
early two thousands, before the teens began, everybody is mainly

(01:23:04):
just on their favorite websites. They're on their favorite websites.
You know, it's maybe they have AOL. After the mid
to late nineties, though, AOL was something a little bit less.
I don't you know early two thousands when people just
started saying, you know what, I don't need AOL anymore.
I've got what we've got. You get your Internet service

(01:23:27):
provider is coming right from cable at that point, and
you don't need dial up anymore. And everybody's going to
cable and DSL and stuff like that. And we're you know,
you're just using Internet and we you know, we kept
our instant messenger. Everybody kept aim, but less and less
people were actually signing onto AOL and paying for the
monthly service. And then came and then came the the apps.

(01:23:54):
Then came the social media services that you don't pay for.
But it shifted everybody off of the Internet that was
largely text based. You're going to different way, you're learning,
you're launching sites everybody. That is where everybody was, and
then everything had everybody's Internet experience really started taking place

(01:24:16):
on little fishbowls, massive amounts of users, but still little
fishbowls compared to how much more of the Internet we
were using to have to go and get this information,
that information to post all over the place. So there's
something to be said about that. And once you get
people into tiny little fishbowls, it's a very very easy

(01:24:37):
thing to take away critical thinking and when you start
introducing new features, like we'll get around to you right now.
Take a listen to this the op on this forum
post that's talking about that Internet theory, which is what
they what they believe really came to be back around
twenty sixteen or early twenty seventeen. This is where they've

(01:25:03):
got it. Take a look at this, Okay, roughly in
twenty sixteen or twenty seventeen. I'm absolutely certain this was
some ai of sorts you're thinking of where I am too,
an here's the timeline. It's best I can see it.
Two thousand and four, Darpest Lifelog project was canceled and
Facebook came into being soon afterwards. Twenty four to twelve,

(01:25:25):
NSA picks up on DARPEST project under the Total Information
Awareness Project. Twenty twelve smith Mund Modernization Act gives the
US government full legal authority to use propaganda against its
own populace, undoing rules put into place after Operation Mockingbird's
Discovery and the Church Committee. Twenty twelve to sixteen, shit

(01:25:46):
tons of DARPA NSA contracts were given to Google, Facebook, Amazon,
et cetera. Twenty sixteen. Leaked memos dating back to twenty
sixteen found in twenty eighteen of Google's selfish Ledger project.
Twenty sixteen, Google released a bunch of neuro linguistic machine
learning programs. Twenty seventeen, deep fake leaks started to become released.

(01:26:12):
You remember that every day it was deep fake, this,
deep fake that. In twenty seventeen, we thought that this
was just a precursor for us getting some you know,
Hillary Clinton insurance folder stuff Epstein related to you know,
blackmail material. We said, oh, listen, they're trying to talk

(01:26:33):
about deep fakes because they're trying to prepare us for
some horrendous stuff that's coming out. And of course blue
balls on that one too. Twenty eighteen confirmed that for decades, Reddit, YouTube,
et cetera. Vote and view counts are fake and completely manipulated.
This was on New York mag Okay, that's what we're

(01:26:53):
talking about. How much of the Internet is fake? Turns
out a lot of it actually. This is from December
twenty sixth, twenty eighteen. Going into how let's see, studies
generally suggest that year after year, less than sixty percent
of web traffic is human. Less than sixty percent, all right,

(01:27:14):
This is nearly ten years ago. Some years, According to
some researchers, a healthy majority of it is bot for
a period of time. In twenty thirteen, at Times reported
this year a full half of YouTube traffic was bots
masquerading as people, a portion so high that employees feared
an inflection point after which YouTube systems for detecting fraudulent

(01:27:36):
traffic would begin to regard bot traffic as real and
human traffic as fake. They called this hypothetical event the inversion. Okay,
so that's why you have no clue when you guys
leave comments. You know, comments is not always the best
test of human interaction. But I love when I get

(01:27:58):
emails from people, and I express my gratitude to people
as well too, because it's just you just never know.
When I get word from people out there, say hey,
I met a fellow frankly in a barber shop or
at a bar somewhere or at some kind of get
together in another state far away. That stuff is the

(01:28:18):
best kind of metric I hear. I know, because who
the hell knows? And what does all the fake metrics do?
They definitely give legitimacy to something. We are the type
of creatures that when we see a crowd, we want
to be a part of the crowd. You know, we
were like moth to a flame.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
If it's a very large stream that's going on, sometimes,
you know, curiosity is the best of you at least
want to peek in to see what people are talking about.
And perhaps you think everybody on the stream is an
absolute retard, But it doesn't matter. You're getting a little
bit more of an insight into what a large group
of people are being roped in by. How large actually

(01:29:01):
is it, and how much influence do those types of
numbers really have on people's perception of any thing or
any topic, any any issue. Because the larger the numbers,
the more authoritative it seems. It just it's psychological, it's psychological.
That's the whole point of astroturfing on the Internet or anywhere,

(01:29:23):
just just to just to completely steamroll somebody with one
point of view, making it seem like it is widely
accepted and this is this is the future. So that's
a little bit of the timeline. But this guy goes
on to say, I blame Facebook and Twitter for what's

(01:29:44):
going on. Listen to this now, we'll take some calls
a little bit. The Internet is a fast way to
get info, and info is what moves the mind. And
the thing is the mind likes recognition. When the likes,
the likes were introduced without negative feedback, they created a
copy feedback subconscious. They made it so only positive opinions

(01:30:06):
will be propagated, also accepted, and in its way negative
opinions to be obsolete. On YouTube. They stopped doing that
when they got rid of the five star system, and
they got rid of the star system because of well,
it all started because of Amy Schumer. In fact, there's
still probably a handful of you out there who started

(01:30:28):
watching this channel because of my Amy Schumer jokes that
popped off after that terrible Netflix. No, Netflix got rid
of it. Netflix got rid of this five star system
because of Amy Schumer and how badly people hated it. Okay,
they said it had nothing to do with it, but
all we all know what was going on. And then
YouTube very shortly after that, maybe within a couple of years,

(01:30:50):
they got rid of the down the downvote button, the
down vote button that you can still downvote it, but
nobody sees how much is disliked. And I haven't. I
haven't seen anything even of my own. I mean, you
can go, if you want to go see what is disliked,
you can go and into the back end of your
account and take a look at it. But they buried

(01:31:12):
it so good that I haven't even seen it in years.
I just pretend that everybody likes everything, which of course
you do. So here's the other thing. Now, everyone is
too cowardly, he says, to have an opinion, so they
copy others that they like. I wouldn't say this is
for everybody, but it is part of herd mentality, and

(01:31:33):
it does rub off on people. The fast feedback system
of the net created a human obsession to be in
with trends. Getting away from it makes you makes it
so that you always feel like you're missing out to
play it safe and the trend is more easy than
to copy what's already accepted. Yeah, well, anyway, the creation

(01:31:54):
of original content is how the Internet used to work.
Anonymous people were willing to express their opinions and try
radical or or experimental things. More truly, original content influenced
by bots or paid influencers was created due to anonymity
as protection against negative feedback and an old internet, you
can start anew every time you posted something. Now add

(01:32:15):
bots to all of that stuff. So that is just
like a little bit of the psychological aspect of what
the liking, the way that you like or you respond
to something, the feedback you're able to give, the way
that you're able to maintain your anonymity. Every time there's
some kind of a controversy that starts on the Internet,
always somebody is going to show up and say, we

(01:32:37):
need a way to be able to verify people's identity.
If you're going to put your your thoughts out there,
especially if they're naughty thoughts, then you should have to
own whatever the hell you say. It's you know, you
start seeing how the prescriptions continue to be the same
and same thing. But here's the crazy thing. Google he

(01:32:59):
goes on to say, I believe Google is one of
those companies that make spots. After all, they work like
a search engine where they get most accepted content first,
the same as doing an ad, and they go into this,
they go into this company from years ago. They were
talking about this is twenty eleven. They know that they've
been doing this in twenty ten. At least. Here's the

(01:33:21):
young Turks talking about in September of two thousand and
eleven about a startup known as Narrative Science, how it's
designed a program that writes human like stories. Right now
it's used for sports articles, but it will eventually be
used to write news and politics, or will it be
used for news and politics as well? Well. Narrative Science

(01:33:44):
several investors, including in q Tel of course, that is
the investment ar of the CIA. The CIA we know
at least through this one company. I'm sure that people
like Jason Burmis and others can point to many other instances,
but the CIA owns saw where that creates narratives and
writes the news. This has been happening since at least

(01:34:04):
twenty ten. So when you say dead Internet, I think
that mainly it's not that Internet users are going away.
I mean, the only way that a human being is
not going to be using the Internet anymore is if
they're dead. That's just the way the world is right now.

(01:34:26):
And I think more people than ever are using the Internet.
But the question is that and I know some people
say that the dead Internet theory is really just the
result of the third world gaining access to the Internet.
How much that has just destroyed so much. I mean,
you think about all the spam that comes out of
India and everything else, and you know, a lot of

(01:34:47):
those Asian countries and whatever. What do you think about that?
There's just so much more out there, and it's not
like it was in the nineties. It just wasn't So
I don't think that people are leaving. You're definitely contending
with a massive amount of non human origin content, but
it is it's mainly that there are there are a

(01:35:13):
lot of programs being run against us that people don't understand,
that are trying to shift perception on any number of
things that influence human behavior to mainly sell narratives. We
talked about that when it as it pertains to not
necessarily at artificial intelligence and how the stock market works.
But these feedback loops of how the stock market is

(01:35:36):
really just propagated on automated systems that can be found
in the forum. Oh, I'm sorry, the old blog we
were talking about, what the hell was it? Mind war?
I think we were talking about mind war and Michael Aquino.
It's all in there, so you think about you just

(01:35:59):
think about that and the fact that the Internet has
really shrunk to apps and people are just hanging out
on apps. They're not even really going to a lot
of websites anymore. There's a lot, there's a lot, but
I don't now the whole idea of Internet deletion. What
do you guys think how much stuff is getting deleted?

(01:36:20):
How much stuff is getting purged? Because I know there's
a lot of stuff that I look for from the
old Internet that's just not there anymore. And it could
just be for the sake that there's a lot of
websites have shut down over the years. If you know,
as you're looking back in the way back machine, maybe
you can find something there. But let's go to some

(01:36:42):
super chats right now. I'll see what everybody's talking about.
Ron Oswald says, NDS is always fun, great show. Frank,
thank you Ron. Larry Whittaker says, you got to do
some live events near Dallas. I'd like to come out
there to Texas. That would be awesome. Joe Martin and
is thank you, my friend Kobe Sway. I need to

(01:37:03):
learn about the future of space. Put me in you
got it the future of space as as predicted from
nineteen seventy seven. The big reason why I love these things,
no matter what the subject matter is, is that you
get to go in and fact check what they were
saying the future was going to be like. And sometimes

(01:37:26):
you find some really interesting shit. Sometimes some things come true,
and sometimes you have a little bit more, you know, hindsight.
Being twenty twenty, you have a little bit more hindsight
as to what maybe the ulterior motives could have been
for one project, one program, or another to be started.
I think that these are great finds, and whenever, you know,

(01:37:48):
Sherry comes by and drops a bunch of these on
my desk, like, Okay, well, I'm gonna thumb through this thing,
and then I want to give it away because I
want to see what somebody else finds with their discernment,
their their own discernment as their guide. Jay Britz says,
Lobster and Raven fit right in around here. Lots of fun,
Thanks Frank, Thank you, Jay. And then Crestmontbert says, I

(01:38:11):
just purchased my flight for the jamboree. Next is the hotel.
I'll see your black ass in September. Yes you will,
Thank you so much, Thank you so much. Okay, let's
see over on rumble. John Otter is a poop poo head. Wow,
what's Sean doing. Jay Simmo says, I'll take a shot

(01:38:33):
on tonight's raffle. Thank you. Tommy Jekyl says, I'll bite.
Let me get a let me put the number up.
I need people to call in so I can start
entering all of these names into the name picker. Tommy says,
I'll bite two on a raffle chance, but please, no
Taylor Swift material at anytime. That's tomorrow. That's tomorrow. And
remember anytime you win something, if you win and you say, hey, listen,

(01:38:58):
I would just like that one thing and you can
and you know, pay the other thing forward, you let
me know. But that's flip city. It's not going to
be a flattering center centerfold for Taylor Swift. Whatever it is.
That's flip City. This is some good old fashion kind
of magazine entertainment that is done right now. It's one

(01:39:20):
of the that's why they call themselves America's Last Laugh.
So I think you like it. Tommy J. D. Mule says,
great show as always. John Otter is forgiven what happened.
I'm not even ask chat room stuff. I just can't.
I just wish people could just sit back, kick kick
their feet back and just watch the show. Apparently everybody

(01:39:41):
just goes to war with each other and sometimes with me,
but whatever. Okay, over on Pilled Delona, thank you so much,
Matt from Setting. Matt from Pilled is just giving out
a whole bunch of bronze tier subscriptions. This is what
I'm talking about. Everybody. Every once in a while, just
pop into the Pilled chat room there and you can.
You'll probably be able to claim a subscription, and that

(01:40:03):
gets you all of the perks of membership as a
quite frankly sponsor for as long as the subscription lasts,
and then you get the taste test what a monthly
sponsor gets for as little as five dollars a month.
So thank you Matt for your generosity. Sir, Rosie Rose.
She claimed a one month subscription, Valhalla claimed one two,

(01:40:25):
Woot got one and Amethyst kat uh and safety Net
eight twenty just gifted the cookie to me a group
hug well, thank you so much, okay nine one four
two hundred two sixty nine. What do you think has
happened to the Internet in respect to the people that

(01:40:47):
are on it? The information that you get, the way
things were the way things are now were no stranger
to dead Internet theory. But because the AI keeps popping
up and we're talking about kind of you know, en
cryptid level disinformation of what's happening, and the new types

(01:41:08):
of videos and the way the information of that that
caliber is spread around, it's it's it's good to come
back around to this. It is other than that. You
can call in if you've ever seen one of those
black tentacle faced rabbits out there, those poor little things, man,
those poor little things. If you have a Mandela effect
that you've been talking about with people for a long time,

(01:41:29):
if you've actually seen the the David statue in person,
and you can say, no, no, there were no divots
in those pupils, or yes, in fact, they were always
there and people are going nuts. You let me know
about that as well. There's more, there's a little bit more,

(01:41:49):
especially on this pig zombie. You want to talk about
the the the rabbit that's had some issues. What do
you guys think about this stuff? Because scares the hell
out of me. It's going back to a twenty twenty
two Yale experiment wherein scientists brought a dead pig bag

(01:42:10):
to life an hour after it heart stopped. They restored
blood flow, cell function without a heartbeat, brain activity, or
life support. If that sounds impossible, wait till you see
how they did it. The pig was clinically dead, no heartbeat, circulation,
or breathing. It stayed that way for a full hour,
long enough for massive tissue damage. But then they plugged

(01:42:34):
it into a machine that did the unthinkable. So what
was this special machine. It's called organ X. It's a
profusion system that pushes a custom synthetic fluid through the
veins of a dead body. And those fluids contain oxygen, nutrients,
anti inflammatories, and drugs that block cell death. And it
worked without needing the heart to beat, so blood began

(01:42:58):
circulating again, cells tot already taking on in oxygen, kidney's livers,
even heart began functioning again. The heart showed spontaneous contractions
even though the pig was technically still dead. This begs
the question, how is this even possible? For decades we
believe that that death was a cliff. The heart stops,
oxygen stops, cells die, that's the end. However, this study

(01:43:21):
suggests that death is more than a slow unraveling, and
if you act fast enough, you can interrupt that process.
But the question is it's not a question. The statement
is no matter what they're talking about here, they're keeping
tissue alive. The pig is not Wait a second, the

(01:43:48):
pig is not alive though not conscious. So again, I'm
just wondering if all of this is just really about
preserving tissue, because once that cord is cut and the
soul is no longer there, then what the hell are
we talking about. The results were insane. Compared to the

(01:44:11):
pig's treatment with traditional ECMO life support, the organ X
pigs showed better organ structure, less inflammation, less hemorrhaging, far
less cell death. They were recovering. And here's the crazier part.
Organ X were found to have fewer signs of hemorrhage
cell death, but they did not see the same contraction
in samples from ECML group. This wasn't the al's first

(01:44:35):
resurrection rodeo. In twenty nineteen, the same team use a
different system brainex to revive pig's brain four hours after death.
They restored oxygen flow and cellular activity in the brain.
No consciousness, though, but neurons began firing again. No consciousness.
That's the thing. That's the only footprint, you know. That's

(01:44:57):
the only footnote that you need to know about all this.
No consciousness. They're just keeping tissue alive and tissue recovering.
So how is this used other than some sort of
a way for people to recover parts from people? Do

(01:45:17):
you see this in any other way that would actually
be life saving for people who haven't blanked out? I
went forward two hundred two six'. Nine you give me a.
Call that's one last THING i wanted to put out,
there because you, know the night of Weird, news The
night of weird, topics AND i want your imagination to

(01:45:39):
kick some things around with. Me, oh we just had
a couple of calls and they just bleeped. Away SORRY
i missed. Them call me. Back all. Right in the,
meantime let's see get that out of the, way get
this out of the. Way we already talked about. That,
Good so then what was? It, Okay, YEAH i have

(01:46:00):
to get the name finder up And i'll wait for.

Speaker 7 (01:46:02):
You.

Speaker 3 (01:46:02):
Guys here we. Go who's?

Speaker 7 (01:46:04):
This this Is adam From.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (01:46:08):
Adam it's good to hear from. You so how'd you
like tonight's? Show that was?

Speaker 7 (01:46:12):
Good good calling about The mandela?

Speaker 3 (01:46:16):
Effect, okay, Great now what are your thoughts on it in?
General and then you can talk about whatever if you
have a personal.

Speaker 7 (01:46:22):
Story, WELL i THINK i think generally it's there's a
lot of misremembering that people are are putting a lot
of weight. Behind but the one that gets me is
the through of The loom. Logo the one thing about
the froo of The loom logo is That i've never

(01:46:43):
seen anybody argue that the cornucopia is the wrong color
or shaped, differently or it was on the other, side
or it was in. Front it's always that, cornicopia that,
color that shape in that. Spiral right, NOW i have

(01:47:05):
a feeling that this is the sort of thing WHERE
i THINK i kind OF i like the idea of
they don't doing this on. Purpose these are like side
effects of whatever the heck is going, on and that
they don't really have control over. IT i, mean it's
it's tedium who? Cares who cares about these stupid? Things

(01:47:29):
but it's one of these things where it's just enough
information to let people know that something weird is. Happening
AND i think that that is the thing that whatever this,
is whatever people or entities or whatever is, doing loves
the fact you know something's happening and there's nothing you

(01:47:52):
can do about. It they love, it you.

Speaker 3 (01:47:54):
KNOW i THINK i was going to say that before
the Before top And raven, left And i'm glad that
you were able to put it back right there in
the center of the of the stage here is that
if you were going in to, say, okay, well is
this just a side effect or if it's just some

(01:48:17):
minor detail shaken? Loose you, know for, example whenever we
did you ever watch any of the nights that we
Had Andrew bishago on the show to talk about His chrononaut.

Speaker 7 (01:48:28):
Adventures, no But i've Seen i've seen The chrononaut talked
about on various other things like THAT y files or. Whatever,
Right i'm familiar with, it BUT i don't think i've
seen the episodes that you're talking.

Speaker 3 (01:48:43):
About, well when he came on and he's talking about
all of these missions that he was on as a.
Child for, example he was talking about all the times
that he was sent back in time To Ford's theater
the night That President lincoln was, Shot And.

Speaker 7 (01:49:03):
OKAY i THINK i may have caught an episode with this.

Speaker 3 (01:49:05):
Guy, okay so, well then if you go back and
you listen to, it what you'll, see is what you'll,
hear is that every time he went, back something was
the main, issue the main event of the, evening the
shooting Of President. Lincoln that always ended the same. Way

(01:49:25):
but other, things other things did change as he went, back,
like for, example some nights that he went to the,
theater the person at the tech in the ticket booth was,
different or something like. That smaller little, things you.

Speaker 7 (01:49:37):
Know it's almost LIKE i do, Building Like I'M i
build stuff for, people contracting type, stuff, furniture that sort of.
Thing AND i always start, projects no matter what they,
are in a particular. Fashion, Right i've always got certain
THINGS i got to. Do if you're going to build
something that's you meet a scaffolding for you're, constructing, right

(01:50:01):
something to build. Upon AND i think those, events those
key events are like the main the main structure of,
things and all these little little details are the you,
know the cladding of the outside of something. Something it's
not important like what color the building is made, at

(01:50:23):
or or what shingles you, choose just as long as
there's a shingle there covering up the, roof, right it doesn't.
Matter but the the roof ractor is a very key.
Detail and if it isn't, there the whole thing, collapses you.

Speaker 3 (01:50:39):
Know and so so you, know WHEN i WHEN i
think about if if the the the theories about, timeline,
uh timeline shifting and tinkering and all that stuff from you,
know one giant reactor or another is, true if they're
if these things really are being, done and uh to whatever,

(01:51:00):
degree that's WHERE i can, say, okay, well you, know
maybe maybe it is that the fruit of the loom
cornucopia question is the ticket the ticket booth ripper At
Ford theater for someone Like Andrew bishago or as you
were saying when you called him, before what if because for,

(01:51:20):
example you, know as much as we, say what the
hell is The United states government even giving six hundred
thousand dollars to researchers for to see how cocaine is
going to Affect japanese pigeons or something like. That and
you say this is a waste of, Money well you'd,
say oh, no, no, no, no, no it's unconstitutionally spent.

(01:51:43):
Money it's a. Crime BUT i, mean you, know perhaps
there is some sort of a baseline reason for that
experiment that leads to a much bigger and what we
would think a more profound project down the. Line like
there's all reasons why experiments are conducted that seem absolutely

(01:52:06):
ridiculous in many of them Are.

Speaker 7 (01:52:10):
I'm Absolutely i'm bored with. That but the thing is,
is you, know twenty twenty revealed a lot of stuff to.
PEOPLE i think it is very fitting that twenty twenty
happened when it. Did twenty twenty is perfect, vision. Right
it opened a lot of people's eyes to this, stuff
like the idea these, people whoever these people, are if

(01:52:31):
they are, people you, know you want to talk about
craziness with THE nds. Folks maybe they're, people maybe they're.
NOT i don't, know but nothing is stopping them from
messing with those key scaffolding pieces LIKE i don't put
it past Some Anthony fauci in some time lab to

(01:52:52):
f around with something that's a key vital portion of
the universe and completely collapse it because they think they're
smarter than everybody. Else you wouldn't. Understand, yeah but you
see this is this is for the betterment of. People see, here.

Speaker 3 (01:53:07):
Here's and and here's the. Thing and thank you for
the call because this could go on and we have
to have a time a time a time travel night
again sometime soon because the the theories are are are
great AND i want to hear. More thank, You. Adam
but think about, this everybody think about human nature to

(01:53:30):
go a step too far every. Time my question is
if time travel in that way in that regard were ever,
invented whether it be the the moment that the crew
working on the machine just got the calculations right down on,

(01:53:53):
paper would the world just explode the second the second
the last math medical calculation was made on, paper wouldn't
the world? Explode because wouldn't that mean that now that
you have everything done and you have an entire, prototype

(01:54:14):
you have the blueprints for what could be this world
changeing technology to bend time and, space whatever the hell it.
Is if it's something that can actually impact time and
could impact the, Past if that's actually, possible then wouldn't
wouldn't you expect it to eventually be misused eventually somewhere

(01:54:36):
down the. Line wouldn't it eventually be? Misused SO i
feel like it wouldn't even Be it wouldn't even be
like the day that the machine itself is. Completed it
would be the day that the calculations were, completed because
you know that that is going to lead to construction
and testing and, success and then, eventually even if it's

(01:54:57):
five hundred years down the, line a complete, disaster you,
know unless we are living in a present, tense that
is going to be before whatever. Disasters like what what
if they create the time machine in the year twenty

(01:55:18):
twenty six and it is successfully and carefully managed into
the year twenty five twenty, six and they screw everything
up by going back in time to like twenty one twenty,
six one hundred years after this night right, now and
they screw everything up from there on, in wouldn't they

(01:55:40):
just be screwing everything? Up everything? Before that would be? Fine?
Right we would be, Fine so maybe the world is already.
Destroyed maybe maybe the world is already destroyed because of
a experiment that they ran one hundred years from now
that destroyed everything from one hundred years. Onward you know

(01:56:01):
WHAT i? Mean does that make? Sense and does that
only make sense Because i'm thinking of time as? Linear you? Know, well, anyway,
whatever there's so much. Shit let's see, three, one, five
you're on the. Air go, Ahead, Hey, frank this Is.

Speaker 5 (01:56:24):
Karen how you? Doing all?

Speaker 3 (01:56:25):
Right? Karen what's up with?

Speaker 2 (01:56:26):
You?

Speaker 5 (01:56:28):
WELL i do have A mendela, Effect, OKAY i would
like to talk about and maybe some people in the
chat can verify If i'm. Writer i'm. Not but in
the spring of nineteen ninety, FOUR i was living In
paris AND i was working for a woman who was
involved in high from the fashion scene at the, time

(01:56:53):
AND i remember her one day In mayor's SOMETHING i don't.
Know sometime in this spring she kept getting calls from her,
friends and the calls were That Michael hutchings up In
excess died from. It it's six. Eight this was nineteen ninety.

(01:57:14):
Four now WHEN i, checked WHEN i google, it when
does he? Die it says he died IN i Think
november of nineteen ninety, seven and right Now i'm in
a debate with groc to see IF i can give

(01:57:35):
him to see If i'm.

Speaker 3 (01:57:39):
Right, WELL i, MEAN i don't know. What we'll see
what the chat room. Says and thanks for the, Call.
Karen so, Everybody karen wants to know if everybody In,
karen if you're in the several chat rooms and be
on the lookout for what they have to. Say What
karen is saying is that she is contesting the date
That Michael hutchins died. From he was the lead singer

(01:58:05):
Of In. Excess now let me do a little bit
of a let's see In Excess Michael. Hutchins, yes It's
november twenty, second nineteen ninety. Seven november twenty, second nineteen ninety.

(01:58:29):
Seven cause of, DEATH i don't. Know let me see.
Here oh your. Suicide well that's. Sad according to the
coroner's ruling that he was under the influence of. Drugs,

(01:58:53):
yeah all, right, WELL i MEAN i DON'T i don't.
Know that's the first Time i've heard Of i've heard of.
That if there's anything anything going, on anything going on?
There do you guys think anything's weird with that talk among.
Yourselves thank you for, That, Karen but you, see that's

(01:59:15):
What i'm talking. About perhaps there are some little reasons, Why,
okay we're going to change, something and we're going to
measure people's, reaction you, Know but after a, while you get.
It you get. It we're gonna Screw we're gonna mess
with people's remembrance of you, Know Star wars or whatever
the hell it, is Or Captain crunch or you, know

(01:59:37):
some other serial box or something like. That AND i,
mean you, know after a, while you get. It maybe it's,
just you, know there is just a lot of people misremembering.
Things so that's ALL i have for you. Tonight but guess,
What we're not done. Yet when we end. Here as
soon as the end credits roll, up we are going
to stay live until the lights literally go out at

(01:59:59):
ninth thirty on pilled dot, net which is also embedded
on quite frankly dot. Tv But i'll drop The pilled
link into all the chat rooms head over there for extra.
Innings it's nine. O'clock we're ending, Now But i'm just
going to be there's no, format there's. Nothing i'm just
gonna be reading the general. CHAT i have a couple
of things that can show. YOU i also have some

(02:00:21):
things we can watch, together reaction and react. Together but
we can still take some. Calls i'll read some gold
pills whatever it. Is, oh and let me tell you who.
Won let's see any new super. Chats Ron oswald is
the last. One, good, good, Good Jen, mule that's the last. One,
Good all, Right so that we're all. Set we are all,
set and over, THERE i got tam grow pretend this

(02:00:48):
is my call in Safety. Net they're roll in there
And delona is all in. There here's who's won our
space package for the. Night the name Is Larry Whittaker,
larry AND i Think larry is over there on. YouTube
get in touch with Me frank at quite frankly dot.
Tv you're getting your nineteen seventy Seven MOONPORT usa and

(02:01:13):
authoritative illustrated handbook on technology history and The future of.
SPACE i can't wait to hear this one from. You
you're going to get the set The charge twenty seventeen
release and A SpaceX. Patch thank, You grimbole seventy. Two
get in touch with, Me. Larry this is, yours and
then tomorrow we'll have some more fun stuff to give.
Away let's do. IT i will see you on the

(02:01:35):
other side of the end, credits. Everybody thank you again
to the boys Of Nephelm Death. Squad it's been wonderful
and now we're going to spend some quality time. Together
hopefully maybe you'll see things that you've never seen, before
because the last couple of times we're doing end, credits,
Guys i'm going into The zadalza. Archives i'm going twenty years,
back sometimes. More and it's been a lot of, fun

(02:01:58):
almost like what we did On saturday night when we
went back to twenty twenty two thousand and four On Saturday.
Night a lot of fun stuff and some of those
recording sessions that we did In, Peakskill New york when
we were all in you, know just getting into college
and stuff like. That SO i will see you guys.
Shortly be well and until tomorrow. Night we Got Jay

(02:02:18):
goulonello in the other room and also a wonderful guest
joining us at seven point, Thirty sam from The Posture.
Dojo that's going to blow your mind. Incredible that's tomorrow
starting at seven o'clock ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:02:31):
Night i'll catch you on the flip.

Speaker 8 (02:02:35):
Side all, right.

Speaker 3 (02:02:43):
Good evening. Everybody thank you so much for being here
AND i hope you enjoy. Yourselves and now to our
wonderful super chatters and supporters of the show. Tonight thank
you To Ron, oswald The larry would occur In The,
Winner Joe, Martinez Kobe, Shumway Jay, britz And Crestmont. Bear
you guys were. Wonderful thank you to J. D, mule

(02:03:03):
To Tommy, jekyl To Jay, simo and right up top
of everybody else over there On Rumble scott is. HERE
i hope you're all. Well i'll be uh seeing you
guys unpilled in just a, second So i'm not going
to get rid of those gold pills just yet or
anything at. All so good night.

Speaker 7 (02:03:54):
For. You will you.

Speaker 3 (02:04:07):
Will you shut?

Speaker 5 (02:04:08):
Up you

Speaker 2 (02:04:45):
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