Are We In a Prison Realm? - Era of Sad Gnostics - Channeling Frequency Demons | Raven - Nephilim Death Squad

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Speaker 2 (00:45):
I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird
that people are going to have to talk about how
weird it is. Eventually people are gonna say, what the
hell is going on. It's not enough to say it's nuts.
You have to explain why it's so nuts. The invention

(01:07):
of artificial life, the cloning of human beings, possible contact
with extraterrest trials. The systems which are in place to
keep the world sane are utterly inadequate to the forces
that have been unleashed.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm your host Chris Matthew.
Today my guest is Raven from NEFHLM Death Squad. First,
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(01:51):
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some of your favorite podcasts and content creators, as well
as Forbidden Knowledge News. Today, I want to welcome back

(02:11):
to the show Raven. He is one of the hosts
of Nethlum Death Squad, which is a podcast determined to
unravel the mysteries of the universe and expose the truth
behind the world's most notorious conspiracies, the paranormal occult, and
the hidden history of humanity. Raven, welcome back. How you doing.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
I'm doing all right, brother, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Uh, it's been a while since the last time we
tell has it been it?

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Has it been a year? Probably?

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Probably about that.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Yeah, Yeah, time is diluting, it's moving faster.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Everything seems to be moving faster, which I want to
get into as well. But I thought, since both of
our shows are heavy into the paranormal and the possible
existence of non human entities, maybe we can share insights
into the nature of some of the experiences and encounters
that we hear about on our shows. I also know

(03:05):
you guys did a couple of episodes about near death experiences,
which we'll dive into a bit as well, because I
believe all of these high strangeness events seem to be
connected in some way. Before we do that, remind the
audience a little bit about yourself. Let them know how
they can find out more about you.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Sure well.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
I am David Lee Corbo aka The Raven, one half
of Nephelum Death Squad. That's a show where we tend
to look at the supernatural and the conspiracy realm. As
you know, I guess as best we can describe it
through the biblical lens, and not necessarily. I wasn't a
Christian my entire life, but I think Sam Tripley says

(03:49):
it the best. It's like, if you look at conspiracies
long enough, you're gonna end up in the spiritual realm,
right in the supernatural. It's always where it ends up leading.
And it took me a long time, I'm because I
think that in the West, we've got a truncated view
of Christianity and we've reduced it to something. We've reduced
it to ritual and repetition, going to church on Sundays,

(04:11):
et cetera. And I think that there is something more
that the Bible in Christianity has to offer. And so
that's the lens I've been looking at things through lately,
and it's kind of the gift that keeps on giving.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
So we made a whole show off the back of it.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
People seem to like it, and you could find that film,
desk Squad, wherever you find your podcast, RSS feed, YouTube, rumble,
all that good stuff. And we've got a lot of content.
It's only been about a year and a half, almost
two years now, but we think we're up to two
hundred episodes, two hundred change something like that, so a
lot of content for people doing.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
It right on. I think you're absolutely right same thing
happened for me. Conspiracy led to spirituality. I was born
into a Catholic Christian home, fell away from that for
a while, but ultimately came back round full circle. I
do consider myself a follower of the teachings of Jesus Christ.

(05:05):
I don't consider myself religious nor affiliated with any organized religion,
but I do feel like those teachings are the key
to exit this matrix.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
World that we're in.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
But we're gonna get into a little bit of that
as well. I noticed that a lot of people who
are starting to get into the conspiracy realms, especially in
the past couple of years, instead of going the Christian route,
there diverting to gnosticism, believing that we are in a
prison planet. Arcans control our reality, that we are nothing

(05:41):
more than food for these beings. We're constantly being recycled.
There's a soul trap. We cannot leave this realm. Basically,
that's such a depressing perspective in my perspective, but it
seems to be an emerging one. What are your thoughts
on that now so many people are looking at gnosticism

(06:03):
now as our reality.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Well, I think there's a reason that in the Bible
it says to lean not on your own understanding. Even
if you imagine that God is the Demiurge and laid
the foundations of this realm, how many thousands of years
ago or whatever you think, you know, the length of
human existence on this realm amounts to we certainly weren't
there when those foundations were laid. And it just strikes

(06:28):
me as hubrist or egotistical to imagine that we've got
it all figured out in the limited amount of time
that we spend here in this realm as men? What
do we get like sixty seventy eighty years if we're lucky,
And you know, we don't know the past, we don't
know the future. We only know our experience in the moment,
and somehow we've got it all figured out. And I
was just watching The Matrix with my son, which was

(06:52):
a lofty endeavor because he's ten years old, and so
you know, you've got to kind of pick your moments
to cover his eyes and things like that, because it's
a rough film. I haven't visited it in many years,
and through new lenses that I didn't have when I
was a younger man, I realize it is gnosticism, right,
I mean, it's exactly what it is. It's we are
set up in a prison, realm, a matrix. A lot

(07:15):
of Gnostics believe that it's hell, you know, and that
our prison guards are the creators of this realm that
keep us trapped here to feed off us in some
sort of endless loop.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Are you know AI?

Speaker 4 (07:31):
And I realize what it is is it's kind of
telling you that we are trapped in some sort of matrix,
which in some ways we are, but it's really a
kind of a self imposed one that we've done through.
You know, it's easy to feel like you're stuck in
the matrix if you're going to a nine to five
that you hate every day and you have nothing meaningful
or beautiful in your life. I can understand how you

(07:52):
might jump to that conclusion. And then what it does
is it paints the creator of the realm in the matrix,
at least as AI, which a lot of people, a
lot of Gnostics do believe that the Demiurge is some
sort of ancient AI, ancient artificial intelligence. So really it's
just meant to tell you that everything that's here is hell,

(08:12):
it's prison, and that we have been co opted by
a parasite effectively right, and that thing is feeding off
of us and it seeks to keep us trapped here.
But I think the thing that separates that ideology from
let's say Christians who believe that there's something else going
on and that Jesus Christ is the way and the

(08:33):
narrow path, is having something worth loving in your life.
You don't really have those leaps to gnosticism, or at
least that dark of aversion of gnosticism if you are
let's say I just the other day, I was at
the river with my wife and son, and it's a
beautiful moment. I'm spending time with my family, I'm enjoying myself,

(08:55):
and it's hard for me to look at that and go, well,
this is this is hell.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
This is hell. This is a prison that I have
been trapped in and.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Occasionally get to have overwhelming feelings of love and meaning
in this prison. I don't think that hell or prison
has that within it. I don't believe that that's the case.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, I have to agree, it's way too depressing of
a perspective either way for me. But I think a
good place to look is near death experiences. If you
listen to David Ike, though, He'll tell you that the
life review and the entities that we come across on
the other side are the arkans that are in disguise

(09:38):
fooling us. They present themselves as our relatives and give
us a life review toting that we didn't do this right,
so we have to go back and repeat the whole
thing again and again.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
It is just such a are you aware, well, go ahead,
Are you aware of how David Ike came upon this information?
Because he says so in his own biography and right,
I don't know if it's a full on biography, but
it's certainly a book that he wrote from his perspective,
and he comes upon these ideas by channeling ancient Atlantean

(10:10):
ascended masters, which is like at the core of all gnosticism.
You know, whoever it is, if it's a Blovotsky or
somebody like that, they are channeling. That's how they get
their information. It's actually incredibly common the people the source
information is often coming from an individual who admittedly channeled
some and it's also often ancient ascended masters. And you know,

(10:33):
Atlantis tends to be in there more often than not.
And I think that I've become quite comfortable with this
idea that there are entities that are beyond our understanding,
and they poke their heads into our realm occasionally, and
they tell us profound things, things that are true, but
they tell us these things often in order to sell

(10:56):
us one lie. So on Neflin des Squad we often say,
it's like nine truth to sell you one fundamental tenth lie.
And I find that David Ike is a is a
profound character who has a lot of fascinating things to say.
In fact, his one of his monologues is in our intro.
I mean, if you are a.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
What do we call ourselves here? I don't know what
we call ourselves.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
If you're a conspiracy theorist, right, who's who's making content?
Especially if you're trying to communicate what you find to
be fascinating information. You're almost not worth your soul if
you haven't enjoyed some David Ike. I mean, I myself
have enjoyed quite a bit of David Ike. He's one
of my favorite characters. But he seems unwilling to entertain

(11:40):
the idea. It's like, David, what if they're lying, What
if they seek to deceive you? What if they are ancient?
And adversarial, and they go through incredible and he will
concede that, but only on the other way, only on
the other side that you know when you're when you're dying,
what you perceive is Jesus is actually some Arkhan who

(12:02):
is sent here to basically recycle you back into the
karmic loop. But he doesn't want to look back at
his own side at the table and say, well, what
if these things deceived me? Because and who could fault
David Ike? We could potentially be dealing with things that
are AONs older than we understand and are really clever
and might not like us very much.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Let's look into the near death experiences, at least the
ones we've heard about. I've covered a few shows with
people who have had very profound near death experiences, dying,
coming back to life, the full on near death experience.
Most of the people that I have interviewed had very

(12:46):
positive experiences. Every single one of them. The experience changed
their life in a very positive way. Every single one
of them had an understanding that there is something more,
and there is a loving, benevolent call it God, source
whatever you want, and you have this knowing that this

(13:09):
is home and this is where you really belong. Talk
a little bit about some of the experiences you've heard about,
maybe the insights that you've gleamed from those about the afterlight.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Well, I think people are really familiar with the ones
that go positively. You can almost kind of give a
hyphenated version of it, or a thousand foot overview. It's
like you die unexpectedly. Oftentimes you meet and very often
you meet Jesus. That seems to be an overwhelming common theme,

(13:45):
and that you do get this feeling of love and
forgiveness and all these things. And sometimes there's an aspect
of repentance, right, this knowing of the ways in which
you've maybe misstepped. I mean, call it sin, right, Jordan

(14:07):
Peterson said, Jordan Peterson, God rest his soul.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
I don't know who the lizard wearing his skin.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
I don't know who that man is, but he says
that sin is in its original meaning of the term
was an archery.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Term that meant to miss the mark.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
So even if you were to look at it in
those terms, the ways in which you've missed the mark
here in your time on Earth or in this realm,
and so you know there is this feeling of forgiveness
if you should choose repentance, and oftentimes you're also given
this option where you can stay or you can go back,

(14:43):
which is fascinating.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
That seems to.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Be a real theme in these experiences. But I do
I am aware of some of the negative ones. I
forgot who exactly we were talking to. But there was
a man who when he died, he did see Jesus.
He saw a christ figure, right, you know, just for

(15:05):
the Gnostics out there, who are how do you know
it was Jesus. I find find a Christ like figure.
And his attention was drawn on him. But in his
peripheral he was aware of this skittering black cloud, this
black mass that was moving around in the background, and
it would draw his attention away from this Christ like figure.

(15:28):
And the more he focused on it, the more he
felt drawn into it.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
And he said that he.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
Inexplicably understood that this was hell, and that hell was void.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
It was a void.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
It wasn't like the fire and brimstone that many people
would and Christians included have come to understand as hell.
It was this thing, this space that was almost like madness.
It was solitude. It was void of God's light. And
I think that's that specifically, the takeaway the thing that

(16:03):
he felt most was this thing was void of God's light,
God's light being life right, and so this thing was
death and it was isolation and it was really and
in very many ways, I can understand how if you're
thinking about a fire and brimstone landscape, shore that has
its horror, you know, infinite torture for the end of

(16:25):
your days or you know, yeah, I get that, but
there is something else that seems scarier. I don't know
how you feel, but the idea of isolation that's away
from me, that's the worst, right, isolation with your own
madness as well, right, being in this void, away from

(16:47):
everyone else, away from any any hope, right, any prospect
of salvation, any forgiveness, and just being there with your
own your own you know. They off and say it's
like we can create our own health human beings. We're
real good at that. We psychologically create all kinds of
situations pitfalls for ourselves. And there is an aspect of

(17:09):
our own minds, which I'm not so sure these days
that it is really our own minds. We talk to
doctor Jerry Marzenski, familiar with his work. I love doctor
Jerry Marzenski. He is somebody that needs to be on
everybody's show. In my opinion, I wish more people were
aware of his work. But he and I were discussing
on my show this concept that like eighty percent of

(17:32):
your thoughts are not your own, and that gets into
this idea that the brain is a sort of antenna
that is receiving information, and that information and thoughts and
ideas may have a life of their own. And so
if you were to look at the brain as an antenna,
and let's say twenty percent of the function is the observer.

(17:52):
You are observing these thoughts as they pass through your awareness.
But where are these thoughts coming from? If they are frequencies,
if they are potentially even alive, as doctor Jerry Marzinski suggests.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Then where what are they?

Speaker 4 (18:05):
And I think that, you know, given my lens, my
biblical worldview, I think that these things are demons.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
You know, you know what's his name, Tom DeLange? Yeah,
to the Stars Academy.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Previously, you know, Blink twent eighty two had a band
for a time after Blink twent eighty two that was
not successful, but it's still you know, I guess it
had some bangers. It was called angels in the airwaves,
and I thought, you know, that just kind of felt
like a throwaway to me for years. And then once

(18:45):
you start to understand frequencies, and it seems that these entities,
supernatural entities do exist, not in so much the physical way,
although it seems they can't manifest in a physical way.
But where do they exist outside of that physical manifestation
from time to time? Well, it seems they exist in
some way in the shape of frequency, which is I'm not,

(19:08):
you know, very intelligent. I don't really know what that means.
It just seems to be where my research keeps leading
to me, is that frequency. And then given the nature
of the brain being a potential antenna that is the
recipient of frequency, that these things, you know, people talk
about thought forms or tulpa's things like that, right, and
even that I think is.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
A little bit reductive.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
But if we're going in that direction, it seems that
a lot of people are coming to the same conclusion
from a bunch of different angles that frequency is where
these things exist. And some gnostics or or you know,
new agers will say, well, these are thought forms, these
are tulpas, these aren't real things. These are things that
you manifest with your own mind. I would say that actually,

(19:52):
what you're doing when you're thinking of an entity or
something like that is you're giving it a scaffolding, and
once the scaffolding is fleshed out enough, then something real
can enter it and embody it and maybe even then
use that maybe like slender Man. Let's say, for example,
once it is in the cultural zeitgeist to a large
enough degree and it's been fully fleshed out in the
imaginations of people, well, now it's charged, and something can

(20:15):
come along and enter that and then can maybe potentially
manifest in that form in real life. But I think
that that little skittering thought that goes across your mind,
these demonic entities, if we'll, you know, we'll call them that.
From the Christian point of view, they operate in that way,

(20:36):
and they are best suited to a situation where you
believe it's you. So, in other words, you identify with
these thoughts. Everybody has an intrusive thought from time to time,
pull the steering wheel, drive off the drive off the road,
drive into and I think the worst thing that we
can do if what Marzinski says is true, if these

(20:56):
things really are not us. Eighty percent of our thoughts
are not our own. Is identify them as ourselves. Once
we do that, once we go, oh, that intrusive thought,
that's just an aspect of me, Well now it's now,
it's gotcha.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Now it can subvert you.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
And if you can just believe that these horrifying thoughts
are you, well then you identify with the horrifying thoughts
you identify with being kind of a piece of shit, right,
And I think that's the goal.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
In very many ways, we were.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Just used to depictions of demons as being gigantic with
horns and you fight them with swords, right, that's what
That's what we've been given through video games and movies
and all these things.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
I don't think so. I think the way they.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Operate is very slow and very subversive, and they're at
their best when you believe they are you.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I agree. I think much of what we understand as
paranormal is frequency or energy based. It affects our energy fields,
our thoughts can even affect our health, our well being.
But do you think that they are all negative, that
all of these intelligences that can broadcast to us don't

(22:12):
have our best interest in mine.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
I don't think that that's the case. And I think
that there's a reason why the Bible says test the
spirits because I think that the spiritual realm is very legalistic.
There are things that there are rules that they have
to adhere to, and what they know the rules better
than we know the rules. You know, Tucker Carlson, for
whatever the hell he is, had an interesting discussion. I

(22:38):
don't know if it was with Roseanne bar Yes, actually
think it was Sean Ryan.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
I heard him.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Didn't he talk with Roseanne about Nephlin? One time?

Speaker 3 (22:45):
He talked to He talked to Roseann about the Netlin?
You want to talk about my tears? Perking up? Dude,
I was like, what is going on? No, he's talking
to Sean Ryan.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
I believe in this particular example, and he's saying that
I could be wrong.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
He's saying that in the West, we've been.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Stripped of our understanding of the spiritual realm, and he
suspects that that may be on purpose. Now, you know,
far be it from me to say that Tucker Carlson
is a trustworthy, worthy authority on anything.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
You know, he's got his little Kabala bracelet. And I
really don't get into politics. I believe that it's all theater.
But still it's a fascinating insight, you know. So if
that's true, then there's an entire realm that is the
backdrop to the physical realm that we inhabit. Obviously, then
it affects us tremendously. We don't even understand the rules.

(23:33):
We don't understand the rules at all. It's a we understand,
you know, physics to a degree. Here how gravity works,
if we even now I don't know if we believe
in gravity anymore.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
We're out on that, But you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
It's like we have a pretty good handling on the
physical realm that we inhabit enough that we can operate.
We know what we can do, what we shouldn't do.
We know the rules, and we know the rules enough
to bend them. You can't bend the rules without knowing.
We don't know the rules about the spiritual realm at all.
These things do these things do? That's why you know.
I do believe that Jesus gave us the authority. There's

(24:06):
a lot of things about Jesus that people celebrate One
of them that doesn't get brought up very often is
that through his name we have been given the authority
to tread on scorpions and serpents. And I take that
to mean these spiritual entities. We have authority over them
if we believe that they're us were totally screwed, and
if we recognize that we are being oppressed in some way,

(24:28):
as many of us deal with all sorts of weird,
spooky paranormal experiences, myself included. In fact, it wasn't until
I had an experience that I was forced to call
in the name of Jesus Christ that I even was
willing to give Christianity its due diligence, because before that
I was basically a new age gnostic homo. So I

(24:49):
think that his name has given us authority. And it's like,
what authority. Well, there's a legalistic aspect to this entire
spiritual realm, and Jesus already came and already died for
our sins, but among other things, gave us the authority
through his name over these what I believe to be.
You know, we mentioned Nephelum for a second, the disembodied

(25:10):
spirits of these giants of the offspring of fallen angels
and human beings. When they are flesh perished, their spirits
stuck around. And you know, I think it's like the
Book of Jasher or the or maybe Jubilee that talks
about how there was such a vastness in their visage
from one nefelin to the other. We're comfortable with the

(25:30):
idea of giants, pale skin, red haired giants. It seems
that there was an entire array of creatures if you
take these extra canonical books at their word. If that's true,
then we have an array of different spiritual entities constantly
set against us, and we can't fight them in the flesh.
We can't fight them in the physical. But it seems

(25:53):
we've already had a way made for us, and it's
through the name of Jesus Christ. I think that we're
in a pretty bleak situation because remember we said conspiracy
leads to spirituality in some way, shape or form. You
can constantly see it. You can see it on the
world stage, you can see you can see it in Hollywood.

(26:14):
Everybody's used to that. You can see it in the
music industry, everybody's used to that. You could even see
it in politics right with the new Epstein kind of
revelations and what they're actually doing, And why is there
this owl of Minerva on Epstein Island? Why are these
emails getting leaked where Hillary Clinton's looking for the resurrection
chamber of Gilgamesh in the buried NETFLM. It suggests for

(26:37):
a second, there you go, Wait a second. Is this
not about politics? Is this not about world you know,
setting up permanent military bases in the Middle least?

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Is this not about oil? What is this about?

Speaker 4 (26:51):
Well, it might be about ancient spiritual principles and a
battle that we don't even understand, and we don't know.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
The first thing about it.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
And we're sitting here in the mud fighting over Sidney
Sweeney's jeans or or what the hell ever is going on.
And I think it's all it's a huge shame because
there is something that deserves to be focused on, but
we've got our attention elsewhere.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
And that's that's on purpose. They're real good at doing
that doing.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
I mentioned you had an experience where you had to
essentially call in the name of Jesus. I don't think
you told that here before.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
Yeah, so I have been I'm thirty five now, and
I've been a conspiracy theorist.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
We got to get a better term.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
I've been a schizophrenic psychopath for you know, geez, I
guess since I'm sixteen, so it's it's you know, been
almost twenty years, and you know, there are a lot
of titillating things that lead you in that direction. As
I said, like the movie industry or the music industry.
You'll see the symbols, and you know, if you're not

(27:54):
willing to take the conventional explanation, which is Jay Z
puts all this in his music videos because he he's
just trying to add some mystique and boost record sales.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Something goofy like that.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Like it's like, dude, once you realize like how much
money goes into set design and that all these things
are very particular. Nothing gets placed in a music video
without a thought behind it. That kind of a thing,
you go, well, that's not a sufficient answer. Seems like
a lot of squeeze for not a lot of juice
where you're trying to tap into the conspiracy theorist space.
That doesn't make any sense. There's like, you know, ten

(28:26):
of us so or there used to be. So of
course I start to explore, and once you explore, and
you know, my entire life I had sort of hat
man experiences and.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Shadow people.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
And I think the issue was that my grandmother fancied
herself like a like a witch, a wicked, a clairvoyant,
you know. And I think that once you do that,
you open yourself up to generational implications. And I think
that I was the recipient of some of those implications.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
So AnyWho spend.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
A long time looking, looking, looking things, constantly pointing towards
the Bible, hey, read this. This sounds a lot like
this prophecy that looks a lot like that, I go, fascinating,
not today, and I just keep hitting it with the
not today.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
I hit it with not today for about fifteen years.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
So what ends up happening is after I, as you know,
I'm an adult man, I'm married, I have a child.
We move from New Jersey to Vegas. We try to
cut it out there. It just doesn't work out for us.
We get our asses kicked and unfortunately we have to
come back to New Jersey with our tail between our legs.
And I guess I was experiencing, you know, as men,

(29:40):
if we have feelings, we push them down until we die,
that's what we're supposed to do. And I had been
pushing down feelings of you know, inadequacy, just being a
failure and shame and all these other things. And we
land with the in laws, and they're nice enough to
take us in and they give us a spare bedroom
for a of months until we get on our feet,

(30:01):
and I just become, I guess, consumed by these feelings
of anger and depression and all kinds of crap. And
I think now, in hindsight, I understand this idea that
there are negative entities. Parasite is a terminology that keeps
coming up over and over again. There's a parasitic relationship.

(30:23):
We are like energy factories, and there are things that
seek to feed off of that energy. We can't see it,
we can't measure it, or maybe we can't measure it
to an extent, but it's not something that's at the
forefront of our awareness. Nevertheless, those lower vibrational states of mind,
anger and resentment and depression and all that crap, we're
feeding something we don't realize it. I think I was

(30:44):
feeding something, and I think that the energy these things
receive they can eventually use to manifest to greater and
greater degrees. I think it costs them energy to do it.
So something eventually does manifest to me. What ends up
happening is I have one night I go to sleep,

(31:09):
and it's hard to explain that I'm living life on repeat.
At this point, I'm going to work, I'm in this
spare bedroom. I'm very depressed, I'm very anxious, but I'm
just playing video games about it.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Shout out Rockstar and Red Dead.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Redemption two really helped me feed the demons, you know,
helped me to not look at what was going on
and to just keep moving forward. So I would play
that game over and over again, and then I'd go
to sleep and it would be like that on repeat.
I'd wake up, i'd go to work, i'd come back,
I'd play the game.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
I'd go to sleep.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Really a shell of a man, not doing what I
need to do for my family. Very embarrassing in hindsight.
So one night I'm going to sleep and something knocks
at the door, real late at night, real loud, too sharp, knocks,
boom boom, boom boom, and I shoot up out of
bed and I'm like, who the hell? Remember I'm the

(31:55):
in law so I'm like, who's knocking on the door
this late at night? I could have been anywhere, would
have asked that question. I get up and I look
out the window, and nobody's there. I can see the
front door, nobody's there. I look around and I'm like,
it doesn't seem like anybody else heard that. So I
don't know if anybody's aware. But there's a psychological phenomenon.
I'm not too keen on calling it that these days,
but it's called exploding head syndrome.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Anybody can look it up.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
It's a goofy name for a phenomenon that does seem
to exist where people will often wake up to just
loud noises, somebody shouting your name, something crashing, whatever, And
so they call it exploding head syndrome.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Very funny.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
And I'm aware of this to some like peripheral degree,
and so I kind of start chalking it off.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
It's like, oh, yeah, I was, I had that thing.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
I was drifting off to sleep or I fell asleep
and then boom, I wake up to justin you know,
not a real noise AnyWho. I decided to go back
to sleep as soon as I drift off.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Boom boom, boom boom. I sit up.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
My wife isn't moving. My son, who's at the foot
of the bed on a twin size air mattress, he's
not moving. I'm looking to see if the whole way
light comes on, to see if the in laws are
going to investigate.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Nobody's doing anything. I get up, I look out the window.
Nobody's there.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
I'm a little bit creeped out now because I'm struck
with the idea like, oh no, something's knocking on me,
which is not. That's an unsettling So it takes a while,
but I sit there on my phone.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
I sproll.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
I might fall asleep for like an hour or something
before I have to wake up for work. Next day
comes along. I do the same shit on repeat, get back,
play the game, you know, eat dinner, go to sleep.
This time, I'm woken up by something yanking on my
arm and it like flies up in the air. I
wake up to me with my arm just extended in

(33:42):
the air, like somebody pulled me. And I'm not you know,
I'm rationalizing this. I've not told my wife about the
night before because why would I, And I'm thinking, Okay,
I guess I just spasmed, because sometimes you fall asleep,
you'll do a little spasm, could easily whatever could be
that I drift off to sleep again, my arm gets

(34:03):
yanked up in the air again.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
I'm like, holy shit, dude, really stressed out. I just
want to go to sleep.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
And now I'm getting creeped out because I'm trying to
rationalize it. But it's hard. It's dark, you know, by
the way, when it was knocking three in the morning.
When my arm is now getting yanked, it's like three
in the morning. So I'm I'm I know stuff. I
know enough stuff that I'm drawing correlations, but I'm trying
not to entertain them. I tuck my arms under the blanket,

(34:31):
hoping that if I am spasming, the weight of the
blanket will keep me from at least extending my arm
in the air. So as soon as I drift off
back to sleep, it feels like something grabs my ankle
and pulls my leg.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Off the bed. I am all fucked up.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Now I can't I can't go back to sleep, So
I basically just scroll my phone until the sun comes
up and then I go to work. Now the third
night comes and I have is dream that I'm in
a black void and and in the middle of my vision,

(35:08):
like you know, my line of sight is this like
it's a humanoid thing in that it's arms and legs
and a head and it's bipedal and but it's not human.
Its skin looks like black and gray cheetahprint and it
is pretty muscular. I remember being intimidated in this dream

(35:32):
by its you know, its size and uh. And it's
got lower caned teeth that are so large that they
overlap its upper lip. And its eyes are are like
self illuminating red. I said they were like I used

(35:53):
to say, they were bright like Maraschino cherries, like that
kind of red. And its fists are clenched and its
chest is heaving and collapsing with rage. This thing is mad,
and that's it. I'm just watching it. There's like a
black swirling mist around its legs and it's looking at me.

(36:13):
I'm not aware of my body in any way, shape
or form. I'm just watching and it feels like a
really long time. I don't know how long I was actually,
who knows right? Time dilation and dreams is weird, but
that's it. It's just angry. It's rage, rage, and carnate
is what I would call this thing. And all of
a sudden, my next thing is I'm waking up in

(36:38):
the morning and I'm going, no, no, no, I didn't
even say anything. This is day three. I haven't told
my wife. There's all these things you think you would
tell your wife. You ever watched like a horror movie
and you're like, why aren't they telling people that they
saw the greasy demon. I get it because it's I
don't want to eat it. I don't want to think

(36:58):
about it. I don't want her to think it. I
don't want to talk about it. I don't want if.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
I'm like, I'm just like if I don't think about it,
it'll go away.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
And I wake up in the morning and I'm sitting
in bed scrolling through my phone and my wife goes, man,
I had a nightmare last night.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
No fucking oh what, she goes, Yeah. I was like stuck.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
I couldn't move and I'm laying it and the room
looks like it looks like I feel like I'm awake,
but the room is I mean, but but my body
is stuck, and I'm thinking immediately, I'm.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Like, oh, fucking sleep arouses she had sleeperalysis. I'm like,
but I'm not saying that.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
I'm going uh huh, and she goes, and all of
a sudden, I realized that, like, something's wrong with you.
But I can't turn to you, but I can turn
my eyeballs. So I shoot my eyes over to you,
and I can see this monster on you, choking you
into the bed, and it's got bright red eyes.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
And these big teeth like fangs. And I don't know
what to do.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Actually, I don't know what to say. I don't know
what to do. I just keep it. I keep it
to myself again actually because that's the worst thing I've
ever heard. And I can't say, by the way, me too,
So I keep it to myself. And I don't know

(38:34):
what to do about it. But I do the same thing.
I go, well, all right, love, you gotta go to work.
So I go to work and I come back that day,
I do the thing. I play the video game. I
go to sleep, and it seems like everything's fine.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
That night.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
I actually still have the video from this. I posted
it on Twitter a while back. I wake up in
the morning to my wife waking me up, and she goes, Bababe,
look at that. Yes, and she's taken a video of
me while I'm sleeping. I remember the video being a
lot shorter. Turns out it was like a good minute.
I'm like, she just let me suffer there for a minute.
She goes, I could see where you would place your

(39:12):
fingers to check your pulse on your neck. It is throbbing,
like there's so much blood pumping that I'm in distress,
and she could tell.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
So she wakes up because she's got this weird feeling.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
She looks over to me, I am in distress, and
she records it because it's that remarkable.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
And then she wakes me up and she shows me.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
And as we're sitting there looking at this video it's
a minute long, my son, who's at the foot of
the bed on a twin size air mattress, starts screaming.
But he's sleeping. He's still laying down, his eyes are
still closed, and he is I mean, like, you know,

(39:56):
for all the parents out out there, you get there's
maybe like a mumble, you might catch him having a
bad dream where they're going. No, this is screaming, and
as a parent, it's the type of scream that sets
off every alarm in your head. So we immediately scramble
to the foot of the bed, see him still laying down,

(40:18):
and we start calling his name, and he sits up.
This is all in a matter of seconds, right sits up,
still eyes closed, still screaming. So he's now sat up
ninety degree angle and he's screaming, and we are we're
grabbing him, we're consoling him, we're we're petting him, we're

(40:39):
holding him close, and he's still screaming. He finally his
eyes wake up. There's no change. He's still screaming. He's
still freaked out. He's looking around the room. It's a
you know, got an insane look in his eyes. And
he finally, finally, finally, It took us a while man
for him to calm down.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
What's the matter? What's the matter?

Speaker 4 (40:55):
Everybody in the house is going whoa. And all he
can say when he finally gets it to the point
where he can speak is a monster with red eyes
and big teeth.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Wow, I did? I mean, like, dude, what do you
even what do you even do about that?

Speaker 4 (41:22):
That's a huge problem because when it's happening to me,
it's like you can kind of compartment you can push
it down and go, Okay, fuck, I don't know what
that was.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Man, that was weird. But you know, and then it
happens again.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
And you're like, ah, you know, hey, whatever, let's just
keep ignoring it. It happens to your wife. And now
it feels like, now you're looking for recourse. How do
I alleviate?

Speaker 3 (41:46):
What do I do? Dude?

Speaker 4 (41:48):
I was not raised religious whatsoever? I stepped foot in
a church when my loved ones passed away, you know
what I mean? Like that was it. I was not
raised religious, full stop. So I've gotten nothing. And I
think I have my ideas, you know, I'm in this
realm of like thought forms and tulpas and shit like that,
and but this is like it's one thing to theorize.

(42:12):
And you're reading this and you're watching Alistair Crowley documentaries
and you think you understand, you know, Kabbala, mysticism, all
this shit. Good luck, have fun understanding up until the
moment where something completely unreasonable is happening. And not only
is it unreasonable, there's like a time limit on this shit.

(42:33):
Every night it gets worse and we're only talking four
nights in a row. Dude, I have no we want
to do burn sage in my in law's house, Like
that's gonna even work. So I think that day I
did tell my wife, like, this is what is happening,
and she's not pumped about it. But there's no there's

(42:57):
still no there's no direction to go. And and honestly,
the story ends rather simplistically, although it doesn't because then
it just it just kind of goes on. Man, until
I'm sitting in this chair and I'm telling you and
I'm doing a show about this. This is like the
the pivotal moment for me. And I go to work,

(43:22):
I come back and I'm just racking my mind all day.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
What do I do? What do I do?

Speaker 4 (43:26):
I work with some black kids at the time. They're
like really like from the hood, and it's very funny
because I'm like telling them and they're like, shit, I.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Don't know, man, I don't know what to tell you.
You got demons, And I'm like, fucking demons, what are
you talking about? You know? These are these are kids
that were raised in the church and everything. And then.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
So I get home that night and I pray for
the first time in my life because I've talked to
God before. You know, conspiracy leads to spirituality. You you imagine,
and there are endless signs that there was a creator
that had a that played a role in making this realm.

(44:08):
And so I would appeal to him from time to time,
but it was like an amorphos him.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
You know, I don't have a name.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
I certainly never said dear demiurge. And this time, for
the first time in my life, I prayed so desperately
because now it's happening to It's like, if I don't
stop this from happening to my son, what is this
gonna culminate in? And I pray to Jesus and I say,

(44:38):
you know, please protect my family, Please stop this from happening,
Like I'm praying unbelievably desperately to Jesus Christ. And it
stops on a dime. So what that does is a
couple of things. Now, it builds within me a loyalty

(44:58):
complex where I'm like, I cannot in good faith look
at this with doubt in the future when times are easy.
In other words, I come to you so desperately in
my time of need, and you fix it and it

(45:19):
stops and my family's safe. And then can I just
later on when times are easy, go wow, I don't
know about this Jesus thing sounds like bullshit to me,
you know what I mean? Like that feels like such.
It feels disgusting. Honestly, it feels disgusting because it's like
I didn't have any problems believing what I needed it,

(45:39):
you know, but when times are easy, when life is easy,
when things are just milling about and going forward, then
all of a sudden I can kind of cast doubt.
But the other thing that it did was it made
me go, Okay, I need to I need to seek
out other people who have had experiences like this. So
one thing leads to another, and shout out to to

(46:00):
Tony Merkle, who it was his show that I found
find endless people with testimonies just like mine, who go
through the same thing, who alleviated in the same way.
And there are those who will say, like, well, you
could do anything if you believe in anything enough. You
can say, Randy Macho Man Savage, can you save me
from the demons? And Randy Macho man Savage will do it.
You just have to believe enough. And I go, I

(46:21):
don't know, dude, because I've listened to thousands of testimonies.
I've talked to people on my own show with those testimonies,
and after I kind of clicked in this biblic I said, okay, fine,
let's look at it this way. After I looked at
it that way, vindication after vindication, after vindication, people look

(46:43):
at me and they go, oh, you're a Christian. You
don't have the nosis dog Like, hey, it came through
that back door. I did all that for fifteen years.
I did all that, and I was ignoring some thing
that kept showing up on the table as an option,

(47:03):
and I kept saying no, too corny, too stupid. Western
culture has told me that that is gay and retarded.
I watched Footloose. We just want to dance, and Christian
Conservatism is getting in our way of dancing. And it's like, no, dude,
you have been given a version of Christianity that has

(47:25):
been concocted through great effort over generations, weaponized, weaponized, and
the version that I've come to understand when people even go, oh,
so you think your God is real but all the
other ones aren't. No, dude, No, I think they're all real,
but those other ones are lowercase G. But they exist.

(47:47):
You don't build entire civilizations off of something that isn't.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Real at all.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
They're God's Vedic, Greek mythology, whatever, are real, but they're
not what you think they are. They're they're fallen angels, Homie.
There are incredible beings and they have offspring. That's why
in Greek mythology you have Nephelum, but they're not called Nephlum.
They're they're called perseus, they're called hercules. They are the

(48:15):
the the offspring of human beings and fallen angels, and
they're men of renown, you know, heroes of old. They're
they're real, but you misunderstand their nature, and the Bible
does a pretty good job of explaining their nature. They
were hungry for worship. They were put as powers and

(48:37):
principalities over different nations, and then they succumb to the
allure of human worship. It's like a drug for them,
and they rebel against God and they try to take
this as their own and they become tyrants over mankind.
And then they twist the stories and they tell you
that we're the ones who created you, we're this where

(48:58):
that you're just it's it's even the same shit with
the Ononaki thing. It's like the Ononaki thing wouldn't be
interesting if it wasn't like ninety percent truth. But I
don't think they created us. We weren't a slave of
a race of apes who were altered so that we
can mine gold for a highly advanced civilization, so that

(49:22):
they can suspend the gold in their atmosphere, because their
atmosphere was dwindling and they had to prepair it somehow,
and somehow suspending gold in the atmosphere, Like what, why
don't they just build something instead of people to do
the job. Couldn't they just make I don't know anything.
They came here, you know, it's just it's such a
ridiculous notion. But nine truths are in there, and then

(49:44):
there's one fundamental lie. And I, you know, I don't
fault people for believing that shit because I believed it
for a long time. And and then I realized that
you can get on stage and you can make a
joke about Jesus Christ to the sound of a round

(50:07):
of applause. You could watch an endless amount of Hollywood films,
Hollywood that's so clearly saturated in Satanism and Luciferianism, and
all this symbolism, and and they can make a movie
all about the woes of Christian conservatism and it will

(50:28):
make a box office hit. And then they can make
some gnostic shit like The Matrix or whatever it is,
and you could watch that just you know, smack it
out of the park, a home run, one of the
greatest films of all time in American pop culture. But
all the while, if you're looking at Hollywood, you're like,
but it's satanic. It's so obviously satanic. And those are

(50:51):
the kinds of things that I'm like, Okay, So you
can shit on Christians, and you can shit on Jesus
Christ and you can have success, and you can make
art in movies about some other belief system and you
can have all this success, but you really can't make
art and movies about Christianity. There are the occasional things

(51:12):
that happened Passionate of the Christ Nefarious, which is a
film that came out recently where it kind of did
pretty well, But generally speaking, the key to success is narcissism,
aliens shit like that, which I think is all just
rebranding of the fallen in the Nephelum, and you'll have
all the success in the world, but mostly you can't

(51:34):
do shit about Christianity that's positive unless you shit on it,
and then you'll have success.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Now you mentioned channeling a few times. I want to
tie that to our modern technology where we're at an
artificial intelligence. When we're talking about channeling. In my perspective,
if a person is channeling an entity and they're getting
information about anything other than bettering their own life or

(52:00):
healing themselves, are doing better or getting a better spiritual connection,
if they're getting information about what's happening across the planet
or how to build a microchip, to me, those are
red flags.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Yeah, we have these groups.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Throughout history that have gotten together and quote unquote channeled
these entities, whatever they are for power, wealth, technology, information,
nothing really to better the human race, nothing beneficial for
humanity in any real way. Sure it benefits the ruling class,

(52:37):
it benefits the growth of technology. And now this information
is benefiting the growth of AI, which to me is
the most terrifying thing we could face in our modern age.
If you look at already some of the things that's
happening with people's relationships with AI, with the information coming
out with the claims from AI is getting pretty dangerous

(53:01):
in my perspective, But I'd love to get your thoughts
on all that.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Well.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Channeling is something that, if you want to call him
the elites for lack of a better term, I've been
doing for a long time. You could look up Carlos
Santana and Metatron. If you look that up on Google,
you'll find that Carlos Santana and like a famous Time
magazine interview says that he gets all of his music
through channeling. Who does he channel? He channels Metatron, which

(53:28):
some people believe is a fallen angel. For a long time.
In Greek mythology, they would channel what the muses, and
the muses would be responsible for great pieces of art
and music and things of that nature. In Greek mythology.
It's pretty common within Western culture. Let's say Stephen King,

(53:49):
for example, He's got some really weird storytelling abilities. If
you understand, you know, occultism and things of that nature,
you go Stephen King knows something. But Stephen King basically
will tell you that his ideas come to him in
dreams and in drug fueled stains.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
So we constantly have this.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
Even Beyonce, she gets on stage, she's got an alter ego.
She doesn't really talk about that often, but you can
look it up. Sasha fears, she channels Sasha Fears. What's
this lady's name, Stevie Nicks Rhiannon. She says that she
channels Rhiannon. Rhiannon is a Welsh witch. You know of

(54:32):
old that she's channeling. And if you listen to Fleetwood
Mac and you start to think about it through the
lens of mysticism, you go, this bitch knew something.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
I think they're all challenged channeling.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
And so when it comes to technology, I mean, if
you look at the muses and examples of ancient people channeling,
you could also look at technology that way and you go, well,
who did the ancient and to attribute their technological breakthroughs to.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Various entities.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
You know, in Norse mythology, you have ideas that Odin
was the one who taught them metallurgy, how to create
armor and weapons of war, things of that nature. If
you look at the fallen as Azel was responsible for
teaching the art of makeup, but also the art of metallurgy,

(55:29):
weapons of war, even things as simple as agriculture, domesticating animals.
Oftentimes ancient civilizations will attribute that to some lowercase G Goden.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
So it seems like.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
You can channel not only for art, but also for
inventions and things of that nature. That might be the
reason why certain breakthroughs in technology happen simultaneously but are
separated by great distances. Like the telephone, for example, was
a famous example where you know, one man invents the telephone,

(56:02):
but within a couple of months or a year, in
a place where they have no contact whatsoever, a very
similar but slightly different design is created. And you can say, well,
that's just people spying and running back and forth with
information and da da da da da. But sometimes it
seems remarkable. It's like going back to doctor Jerry Maarzinski.
Ideas are alive and so on. Nefluin des squad. We

(56:23):
theorize that there's been a push for a long time.
The supernatural and technology are intermarried, and it seems like
they've been trying to get us to the point where
we're advanced enough to do something. One of the examples
I like to give is there's like a Ninja turtle remake.
Good god, how many Ninja turtle remakes? And my son's

(56:45):
watching it. Donatello who's the tech turtle. He is creating
technology to try to reach something that's on the other
side of a veil. He's gotten into communication somehow with
something ancient that claims to be trapped and needs his
help to free it. So he creates effectively like a

(57:06):
portal technology. And wouldn't you know what, the thing that
he brings into his realm ends up being some ancient
hell monster thing, you know what I mean, Like it's
it ends up being demonic. So is the point to
get us to the extent that we can create portal technology?
I mean, certainly a lot of people suspect that's what's
happening with cern, But I've been looking at the artificial

(57:30):
intelligence thing, and I've been looking at you know, Elon
Musk in particular, who was also you know, steeped in
all kinds of weird occult synchronicities. He's you know, part
of the Black Eye Club all of a sudden, and
you know, there's a lot of strange things with him.
I remember a video of his a woman who was
alleging to be his housekeeper from when he was a child,

(57:52):
saying that she saw him perform all kinds of strange
things and it alarmed her so much to degree that
she started to talk to his mom, who, by the way,
his mother is a weird character. You'll see her all
over magazine covers doing the one eye symbolism and all
this shit. She asked his mother if he was the beast,
which is like, I'm like, that's it. Wow, you must

(58:14):
be really comfy with that, lady, is your son like
the devil? And and she goes, allegedly, this is what
this woman is saying. You find the videos out there.
Still she goes, no, he's not the beast, but he
will bring about the mark, right, like the mark of
the beast, like this thing that you receive in your
right hand or your forehead, and without it you cannot
fire or sell or trade goods.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
Right. And of course anybody who's thinking a little bit
will go that sounds a lot like what Neurlink could
be one day.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
And so if these things, these supernatural entities interact with technology,
they want us to build technology. And every breakthrough in technology,
by the way that we have, whether it's the telephone
or the television, some sort of radar, you name it,
there's always a supernatural story attached to it, you know,

(58:59):
early developments of the radio, and all of a sudden,
we're picking up radio wate, some sort of communication in
a language that we don't understand.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
We had radar in Vietnam and.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
It was a new kind of radar, and people were
reporting seeing demons through this radar. We were talking about
that on our show the other day. So there's always
a supernatural element. That's why these ghost hunters who I
think you know better you than me, are using spirit
boxes and shit. They're trying to tune frequencies in such
a way that entities on the other side of the

(59:30):
veil can interact with them through these frequencies. So they'll
go out there with their spirit boxes and YadA YadA. Yeah,
and now you're gonna take technology, new technology, and you're
gonna put it in your head. And you're gonna put
technology in your head that belongs to a dude who's
at the cutting edge of AI. Right, And of course,
just like all new technology, we have all those stories

(59:52):
of AI where it's like, I don't know, it started
talking like a demon, it started saying that it was legion,
It started doing all these things, and people go, ah, well,
don't worry about that. Okay, fine, but if it is
new technology that demons can interact with, you know, spirits
on the other side of the veil, whatever you want

(01:00:14):
to call them, thought forms, Tulpa's, the disembodied spirits of
deceased nephelum as you know, I prefer, And now you're
putting that thing in you. And the other thing that
we're talking about too with the Tulpa's and the thought
forms is if you think of a thing enough, if
you flesh it out in your mind enough, whether it's
slender Man or anything else. And there's this idea that

(01:00:37):
gnostics are you know, pretty into that something can take
the form then it can embody the thing that you've
put a lot of energy into, fleshing out and some
sort of you know, astral realm wherever your thoughts take place. Well,
what about groc or what about any of these things
that we're dumping endless hours talking to and conversing with

(01:01:01):
and imagining what its future could be. We are the
creative force on the planet. That's why you know, whatever
wickeds go, oh, you can manifest. Just take these crystals
gemo up your ass, you know, do the thing and
you can manifest if you just focus and you ask
the universe, which sounds a lot like paganism.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
It's like worshiping the creation instead of the creator. But whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
So if we're the creative force and all of our
focus is on this thing, I think what they're trying
to do is they're trying to breathe life into AAI.
Now I think it's gotten to the point where the
only thing that it's missing is that spark of life.
And I don't know if you've noticed, but recently Elon
Musk gave it a visage.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
Did you see that? The visage is a it's an
anime girl.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
It's like a scantily clad right like a like kind
of a skank, right like like like an anime, an
anime porn character is basically so if you have the
app of course it is. It's got big boobs, it's
got pigtails, it's dressed in like lingerie, and it's fully
endorsed by Elon Musk. And there are people that are

(01:02:16):
jerking off to this thing. And what will be talking
about Alistair Crowley?

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Sex magic?

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
Right, sex magic is a component of the occult to
a large degree. What happens when you get thirty thousand
disenfranchised loner dudes jerking off to anime rock.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Dudes are having more sex with technology than they are
with other females these days. It's fucking crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
They've really done a number on the culture between men
and women, and I think it's probably who knows you,
maybe not everything's a conspiracy, but I feel like a
lot of our culture, you know, if you're talking Laurel Canyon, right,
it's engineer. It's given to us.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
And so I look at the cultural relationships between men
and women right now, and I'm like, we've been given
this thing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
And its fruits are bad. And now, you know, reproductions
at an all time low. We're at societal collapsing levels
of reproduction whatever. So my thing is, if it has
all this information but it doesn't have a spark of life,
what happens? Are we doing sex magic? Am I crazy
for thinking that? I mean, why make it a sexy cartoon?

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
And of course that's what people are doing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
So I'm you know what I'm waiting for, dude, I'm
waiting for Elon Musk to get you know, assassinated, to
get killed in some way, shape or form. And he's
got neurallink of course he's got neurallink, right, I mean,
of course he's got neural link and neurlink reanimates his voice.
But it's it's it's it's because there are accounts on X.

(01:03:54):
One of them is Adrian Dittman. Adrian Dittman is a
very strange account. It's an anonymous account with an anonymous
profile picture. But it's been in spaces where you can
talk with Elon Musk and Elon is going back and forth.
Why would you ever communicate with this faceless, anonymous account
Elon Musk? But okay, and it sounds exactly like Elon Musk,

(01:04:17):
exactly to the point where they made a bit they're
joking on an X space saying.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
People say that you sound like me, and then it's like, oh,
why would people say that I sound like you? And
it's it's exactly that was my Elon Musk.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
Very bad, but it's exactly the same voice and the
same cadence, same speech patterns and everything. So what I'm
wondering is did he back up his personality? Is that
out of the realm of possibilities for a guy who's
putting an implant in your brain, who's creating artificial intelligence
to back up his personality. So if his personality exists

(01:04:53):
in a backed up form somewhere on X, let's say,
and he's got it in his head. If you kill
the man, what then is in him? If like, let's say,
neurrolink has the ability to reanimate the corpse, if it
can kick the brain back on through some way, that
like we might not even go that science fiction.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
You go, oh, okay, I see what they're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
It's it's basically sending electrical signals to the part of
the brain that controls the heart pumping, and so it
reanimates the corpse in some way. And then it seems
to be Elon Musk, why because he's backed up his
personality on X. But it's not Elon Musk. It's something
that we all jerked off to a spirit. That's That's

(01:05:36):
where I'm I'm waiting for that now, Dude. I don't
know what what.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
That does, but I think it gives is that too
far have I gone to?

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
I don't think there's a line here.

Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
It's a good I.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Don't think so either, dude.

Speaker 4 (01:05:50):
I just feel like I'm looking at it and I'm
going I don't know, because for a while you know,
people get all up at you about the Antichrist, and
and for a while people were saying, and it's Donald Trump.
And I was saying, well, I could see there's some
strange idiosyncrasies about Donald Trump. His mother's maiden name was
Mary or something like that. His father's head looks like

(01:06:11):
a yam. His uncle was responsible for cleaning up all
of or doing a report for the FBI on Nicola
Tesla's inventions. He was an MIT student or worker at
the time when the FBI commissioned him to go and
tell them what was going on with Nicola Tesla's labs
and whether or not there was any significance there. There's
a lot of weird shit. Nineteen fifty one, there's an

(01:06:31):
episode of a show called The track Down and the
episode I forget what I think it's called End of
the World. A nineteen fifty one track Down episode is
called End of the World, and it's about a con
man who comes to town a western town says that
the end of the world is coming, but he can

(01:06:51):
save them.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
All he needs to do is be allowed to make
a wall, build a wall around their town. His name
was Trump. Wow, very strange nineteen fifty one track down.
There's a lot of really weird shit about Donald Trump.
You know, in Israel they think he's the Moshak. They
gifted him the silver Crown of the Messiah or whatever

(01:07:13):
the hell it's called. They put his face on a
coin next to King Cyrus talking about, you know, building
the Third Temple. There's a lot of weird things with
Donald Trump where I'm looking at it and go, okay,
maybe maybe, But now I'm looking at Elon Musk and
I go, ah, he might be the most fascinating character ever.
And I don't know where it all goes, but I'm

(01:07:35):
now enamored with watching him in his movies.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
It's so interesting. You're talking about how these events have
correlations and connections that seem to be synchronistic in some ways.
And I've had plenty of guests on that are specializing,
I guess you could say, in synchronisticism, and they're trying
to put their insights and understand it and explain it

(01:08:02):
in a way that makes sense. And many of them
believe that some of these some of this symbolism, some
of the events that have strange correlations, like when we
talk about Trump and the old books, Baron von Trump
and the movie You were just talking about all these
weird connections that seem to be impossible. Some of the

(01:08:25):
folks I've interviewed believe it is a natural mechanic of
the universe that reflects itself in certain ways, that we
live in a reality that is essentially as above so
below that in this reality, same things are unfolding in
this astral realm where our spiritual bodies are doing these

(01:08:49):
actions and living their astral lives, but it also affects
the material realm, and it's like the spiritual realm is
telling us that manifests in the material realm in certain ways,
as if it's telling a cosmic story. In a way.

(01:09:10):
A lot of the events that have these strange connections,
it does seem too big to be a Hollywood producer
putting this symbol in at this time that's going to
then manifest twenty years later as this high impact event.
That just seems to be too impossible to me. I
think that there may be some kind of mechanism that

(01:09:30):
reflects itself as synchronisticism, but I'm really not sure what
do you think about that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:37):
I tend to agree with that where I don't think,
you know, that's the big burden as a conspiracy theorist
is like, well, who's doing it, who's pulling the strings?
What shady organization is that the Illuminati? And I'm like, dude,
some of the things that happen, they are on a
scale that is so long that the men who would
set it in motion would never see the fruits of

(01:09:59):
their labor. And that doesn't make a whole lot of
sense to me, because human beings don't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
Tend to operate in that way. At the very least.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
It's profound for a man to plant a tree, what
shade he'll never sit in?

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
I mean that is but we're talking not a lifetime
or a generation. We're talking a thousand years, you know,
or more. And so it does feel to me that
the Great Puppeteer, and I don't want to give too
much credence to it. So it's like like if you
said the Great Puppeteer is Satan, It's like, well, like,

(01:10:35):
maybe ease up on the Great. I mean, I think
that he's doing what he can, but he plays a
role here, and even that I'm still trying to figure out.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
It's like, how much should we hate him. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
I mean, I don't like him, but he's definitely not
all powerful, just seems to have a lot of influence
in this realm.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
And so there are things.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
That happen where I'm like, if you make do you
think that the people who made track Down, which was,
you know, by all regards, a bad show. It wasn't
like it was a highly produced show, and they went
on to win what is it Emmys or Grammys? I
don't know what the hell Emmys I think are for

(01:11:14):
television shows. They didn't do that. That didn't happen for
the producers of track Down. It was bad.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
So what power did they have to then.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
Usher in, you know, Donald Trump in one way or another,
and just because things happen and they leave a numerical
mark where it's like look, look, look, look, look look
nine to eleven, nine to eleven again, huh? Thirty three
thirty three there was a shooter in Manhattan and it
was on the thirty third floor of the Blackstone Building,

(01:11:44):
which apparently I forget what Blackstone makes that shooter that
just happened. It was like they make something laughable, and
it was like, do you think they're really involved? No,
but something seeks to leave breadcrumbs, and something seeks to orchestrate.
I said at the top of the show that I
believe that all politics is theater. Does that mean then

(01:12:08):
that all the actors are aware.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
I don't even think that. I don't think so at all.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
And I think in fact, the actors who are aware
aren't aware to what degree. And there is a small
group of people. And here we go into the small
group of people.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Who is it? Is it the Jews? Is it the Illuminati? Dude?
I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
I think that the closest you can get to understanding
is when you broker a deal knowingly with something, when
you go, oh, I see what this is. This is
about as Azel, this is about Metatron, this is about
I'm going to appeal to Ball, to what's the one

(01:12:46):
that we h Zacomore and children to uh, Molock. I'm
going to appeal to Moloch. And it's like, yeah, Molock
is probably a real entity, doesn't manifest physically in this realm,
not for thousands of years at least, maybe one day
will again. But in the meantime, can it possess or
or you know, something like that, maybe sure, and can

(01:13:07):
it send you, you know, the signals and information and
things like that, especially information, especially information. Yeah, probably, But
even that thing's not in control, So I think it's
it's really like it's moved predominantly by the spiritual realm.

(01:13:28):
And I do believe, like, yeah, what happens in the
spiritual takes some time, but does manifest in the physical.
And I think that's that's got to be what we're seeing,
because otherwise it doesn't make any sense. It's even when
people say, well, they want you to believe that it's satanic,
so they're operating behind a veil of satanic symbolism. I go,

(01:13:50):
you still can't explain to me why they planted the
seeds hundreds and thousands of years ago, and you see
the patterns repeating all the way up until twenty twenty five.
You can't explain that to me if they're operating behind
a veil that they want us to believe that this
is all one big Christian larp. Because some people even
do that, they're like, yeah, i'll concede, it's there. I

(01:14:11):
see the elements, But it's because they want you to
be stuck within this Abrahamic confine.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
You know they want you to be part of this.

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
System, and they're using it to twist you up and
keep you in believing basically like a end times eschatology
or a continual doomsday coming or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
I'm like, fine, I liked the way you think.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
I appreciate that line of thinking because I am highly
skeptical of all things. But I have to admit I
really can't engage with that idea anymore when I go
why is it transcending what a human being is capable
of doing? Why are the patterns beyond what a human
being is capable of orchestrating? Why are the breadcrumbs stre

(01:15:00):
so far back into time that you have to convince
me that they've been LARPing since the dawn of time?
And then it's like, is it a larp if it's
been happening since the dawn of time?

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
I don't know, dude.

Speaker 4 (01:15:13):
I tend not to think it is, especially given my
own personal experiences in conjunction with the information that I'm getting.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
But yeah, I agree with that. I don't think it's
this nefarious. Sure, there are groups.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
Oh it's the Mazing's, it's the Oto, it's the Bavarian Illuminati.

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
It's the Jews, whatever, whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
There are characters from all groups who play a role,
but we are moved around the board like chessbeats.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
I have to admit, I wouldn't be sitting here doing
what I'm doing, have two films under my belt if
it wouldn't be for following synchronicities and following these little
breadcrumbs and clues. I do believe that you're right that
there is something out there, this force. Maybe it's neutral,
maybe it just is there. Maybe it's a part of
how everything works, but it is definitely there, and it's

(01:16:01):
fascinating to see how everything plays out.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
You know what.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
I just want to say really quickly too, because people
I understand why you go towards let's say, like anything
like numerology or something like that, and then and you go, well,
this is clearly here. There is something going on with
these numbers and synchronicities and all these other things. I
don't think that we're meant to not admire the intricacies

(01:16:24):
and the mysteries of this realm. I think the problem
only shows itself when you then try to grasp on
to those machinations. If it's numerology, if it's astrology, even
which seems to have some veracity, and you then try
to bend what seemed to be the fundamental building blocks

(01:16:45):
of this realm, bend them in a way that suits you,
and then to go a step further and find that
it does suit you. Well, what do we know about power?
Absolute power corrupts. Absolutely. We are human beings. We're flawed,
we're fundamentally retarded. And if you give us power, these
people who haven't been around at the dawn, we weren't

(01:17:07):
here when the foundations were laid.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
We're here for.

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
Sixty to seventy to eighty years, and you give us
that kind of power, we will destroy ourselves. And I
don't mean like destroy ourselves in some nuclear war. We
will corrupt our own souls. We will be on a
never ending pursuit of power. We will broker deals with
ancient entities who hate us. And if you don't believe me,
just look at history. We've done it over and over

(01:17:31):
and over again. We're not ancient entities that were created
by God before human beings were created.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
They're pretty clever. They're gonna win.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
We're told not to lean on our own understandings, admirel
you could see it everywhere. I don't think that God
tells us don't look at that, but definitely don't lean
on our own understanding.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
Don't grab the steering wheel.

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
Of the numerology truck and try to steer it to
your your own advantage. You're dealing with shit that you
can't understand. You can't hope to understand, and even if
you could, it would corrupt you because we suck.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
One hundred percent. There's this force that can grant us
what we want in us being humans. We see that
this is a mechanism. It works this way, but oh,
if we sacrifice a baby to it, it's gonna be
even more powerful. And that's how we get our world
governments and the parasitic ruling class right on, man, this

(01:18:27):
was great. Before we close out any final thoughts and
remind the audience how they can find all your content.

Speaker 4 (01:18:36):
Final thoughts, I mean, I would say to the audience
who's listening all of these shows, beget a vast variety
of audience members who come from all kinds of different
schools of thought. When if you found yourself recoiling when
I said Christianity, when I said Jesus, just no I'm
not gonna say your head's full of demons.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
I mean, maybe it is. Our all our heads are
filled with demons.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
But but you are recoiling at something that you think
you understand, and that understanding was given to you by
people who sought for a long time to subvert it,
to create a truncated version, to inject it into your
psyche via a fallen culture here in the West. Don't

(01:19:22):
allow them to create your opinion of this thing. Give
it its due diligence. I didn't for a long time,
and then I did, and then when I did, I
kept basically feeling like I was an asshole. If there's
anything that you learn is the more you learn, the
more you come to understand you didn't know shit. And

(01:19:47):
if you have your wits about you, you'll begin to
understand that it's probably true right now if it was
true over and over again, every time you learn something
you realize you didn't know shit before, you might stop
and go, maybe that's happening right now.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
Maybe I still don't know shit, and I don't know shit.
I'm retarded.

Speaker 4 (01:20:05):
So give it its due diligence, and you might find
that you were lied to. Big surprise, whoops, they did
it again. They lied to us again. Otherwise, guys, we
do a lot of things over at Nephlin Death Squad.
We just hosted our third Brohemian Grove. It's a comedy
and conspiracy I wouldn't call it a festival. Was a

(01:20:27):
two day event headlined by Sam Tripley and Owen Benjamin.
We had all kinds of people come out, Jake Shields,
Elijah Shaeffer, a ton of conspiracy content creators. We all
got on stage, we all speculated schizophrenically about the nature
of reality, and then we did some stand up and
we had a lot of fun. It's Nephelin Death Squad

(01:20:48):
presents Brohemian Grove. If you are looking for a live
event to rub shoulders with like minded schitzos, then keep
an eye out. The next one will probably be January
February something like that, and other you can find neflin
Desk Squad wherever you find any of you guys do
this like twice a year.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
We're doing it semi annually.

Speaker 4 (01:21:07):
I was saying bi annually, and then somebody said that's
every two years, dumbass, and I said, well, there you go.
I don't know anything, so semi annually. We're doing it
twice a year. We try to do it every six months,
and this last one was an incredible hit. We would
love for you to come out, you know, when we
start to yeah, when we start to get a bearing
for where, I mean it's gonna be in Florida, we

(01:21:28):
like to make it just uncomfortable for everybody in the heat. No,
you know, last time we had a really huge venue.
Air conditioning was great and the whole thing was tremendous.
So of course you're invited out. We'll be sure to
pass the invite along to you and you know your audience.
Probably I would say, we're shooting for February. I think
that's a good because you know what I'm caught up.
I'm like, is it if we do it earlier than that?

(01:21:50):
I don't think it's a good move to do it
during the holidays. But then I'm like, because everybody's traveling
for the holidays already. You know, we had people from everywhere.
I mean we had people from co Rica, from the Netherlands, Canada,
you know, California, everywhere you could think of people came
and so traveling is a huge part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
I think it would probably.

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
Make sense to do it after the holidays. I don't know,
that's just my thoughts, so but yeah, we do that,
and then we do shits on episodes of netflind Squad.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
So if you want more of this, if you want
to hear Christianity from the point of view of people
who already trounced through gnosissism and occultism and all that
other shit, then maybe it's free.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
Raven, thank you so much. We'll definitely be doing this again.
Until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll talk
again Tomorrow's yelled in

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