Dave Smith on God, Liberty & Politics: Unreleased Throwback | Nephilim Death Squad - Nephilim Death Squad

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Too much top lots of productions. We are being hitlersized.
Why people like this.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country
and in a world that is being run by unbelievably
sick people, and the chasm.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Between what we're told is going on and.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's really going on is absolutely normal.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Oh yeah, dude, listen that one ship.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Because like we all know what's going down, but no
one's sayings it would happened to the Home of the
breed much. They can join this now when no one's
talking about it and decide every place and everybody's just walking
around in the plasmon awaken.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Doing that in the grave. But lay we need to
be ready to raise us. Welcome to the edge of day.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Everybody is slave, only some are a When is that
the government releasing poison?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
And welcome back Patreon subscribers to an imprompt to whatever
this is. I don't know what's going on. We were
supposed to be here to do an ad read or
not an ad. Oh but they're in it though they're
literally they are the Patreon dot com backslash Netlon desk
squad where you guys already are and continue to enjoy

(01:22):
the very many perks though.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
If you guys are here, create a second email.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Double up, pay twice subscription. We're supposed to be here
to do a read for Brohemian Grove, and Top said,
why don't we record that or rather do it? I said,
do it live. Yeah, we're gonna do it live, which
is gonna be hard. It's not gonna be easy. I've
seen videos if you try to do ad reads before
you left him in stream Yard, and I was watching
them one time, and it was very funny. I had.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
I was watching you struggle through it. Yeah, I watched
you struggle through I popped in one time. I think
you guys popped in. You and Jack popped in. You
were like, this sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
It's not easy, dude. It's like I got to take off, right,
you got to take you. You have them on, well,
I guess I have my sneakers on too. Showed them off.
What a disrespectful animal? You are nice? Right? That they
are really nice? That's I think. I like those maybe
the most the ones you showed me.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
I haven't got the snakeskin ones are very nice.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
I just have This is how much y'all show the
Patreon what's wrong with me? This is why we need
more Patreon.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
I'm just buying Pokemon cards. I'm just buying Pokemon cards.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Actually funny, my wife did tell me, like she's like
every day, like, so I've gotten like a bunch of
Jordan's and she was like, so, you're just becoming a
nigger now, and I'm like, that's it.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
You're just becoming the thing that you've rallied against for
as long.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Listen, the shoes are really nice. They're they're very nice. Okay,
they do good for fashion.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Fashion.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah, get some easies, all right, listen, guys, come on,
let's get serious here. So this is this is on
the schedule today. Yeah, we're gonna do an ad read.
I don't know how we're gonna do this. It's it's
to read for Bohemian Growth, which is coming the twenties
and the twenty first of June. It's going to be dope.
It's gonna be a whole bunch of stuff going on there.
So you guys get to see what it looks like

(03:10):
before we actually like pay the money for somebody else
to make.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Show them up. Can you bring up pictures of the theater? Oh?
Pet Members of theater. So so we already got it secured.
It is Leesburg, the Tropic Theater, and these blid legitimate.
Did you know it's the water Melon capital of the world.
It is a legitimate theater. Two hundred and forty seats.
I don't think we're going to sell all two hundred

(03:36):
and forty seats. You want to keep like ten to fifteen,
maybe even twenty open, because what we want to do
is flood it with conspiracy content creators. We want all
the homies there. We want it to be a really
weird experience with them. Those are those are really dope.
Those are sick though, right, yeah, don't show the people
that though. That's very okay, okay, sorry, they've made you
wealthy and this is how you behave.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
It's not the listen, no, no, no, here's the thing.
It's not about like I'm using like money to get this.
I had the money to get it. I just figured
out a website to get this shift for cheap.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
I can't get it for like twenty something bucks.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
The dog, I'm not There's no way I'm paying like
for these shoes. These shoes are really nice shoes, but
they're like one hundred and seventy five dollars.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
And I went through the mall the other day, like
the five dog and they're really there's really nice. Crazy.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
If you see the for fifty five, how are you
gonna like, you're gonna not buy those? I'm gonna buy
new Balance. If you see mine cards for that's a
three dollars, Look at that?

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Look at that? Hold on real quick, check this out?
Was this? This was a six dollar holographic hit moone
chan first generation baby, first generation Wes is gonna get
this file and he's like, what the fuck am I
supposed to do with That's right, I forgot We're supposed
to be recording this for him. I'm sure he appreciates that.
That's that's really nice. So yeah, Lee'sburg, Florida. It's gonna
be the Tropic. Here we go. We're gonna there it is.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Look at that the theater is under it's under a
little bit of construction. You'll see a little bit of
a mess. But this is the inside of the theater.
Here and I'll show you some more stuff as well.
That's a two hundred and forty person seat. There's a
there's actually another room with a balcony in it. But
it's not really set up for what we need. Yeah,
this is pretty cool. Balcony, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
The other room has a balcony. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
This this room here, this is like the main entrance
the lobby. We're gonna have like liquor in the lobby.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
In the lobby.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Yeah, they actually behind that brick wall over there, they
have uh yeah, that's where we keep the children. It'll
be like a little ticket boots, so you buy tickets.
When you buy your tickets, you'll have a QR code
on your email, and I want to set it up
so we have somebody there where you can go scan
that and then you'll put your wristband on right there.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
But it's like outside like an old school movie theater.
Really cool. See, very not bad for fifty five dollars, right,
that's what I'm saying. I can't stop. It's yeah, fifty
five bucks is not bad. Once again, I just want
to say that. Yeah. So after so, so, what we
want to do is we want to keep over keep
open like fifteen to twenty seats. We're gonna flood it
with other content creators. We have Shane Cashman, we have

(05:58):
Sam Tripley of course, Nevilin DETHK Squad, Tower Gang, and
we're working on the rest of it. But after it's
all said and done, right outside the Tropic Theater, there
there's a bunch of really dope restaurants, a bunch of
places to get drinks, to get food, to play pool,
to hang out. And that's what we're gonna do. So
we're gonna have the you know, all the performances inside
the theater, and then after it's done, we're all gonna

(06:20):
pour out into the streets for at.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
This is what it's gonna look like from our view,
like looking at you retards.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, here comes and there for you guys.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
And then that's where you guys, goot go there close
enough to sit on, but far enough away to smell you. Yes,
actually yeah, in the front row. Actually maybe we should
do like VIP in the front row. We'll see Vip
in the front row. Vip gets you spit on the
splash zone. That's a lot on day two.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Uh, it's gonna be a lot of play. So yeah, man,
that's what we're working on. And so I guess we're
gonna do word Zone. I guess what we're gonna do.
We're gonna do sort of we have to do an
ad read and this isn't gonna get published anywhere. It's
just for you psychopaths. I don't even know why we're
there's so much pressure. It's so much pressure from these people.
Look am In Rat. Now that I know that Amin

(07:08):
Rat is watching me, well, I'm going to try to
do this. It's a lot of pressure. That's it's Scott
here and you square it. Oh, everybody's got probably names
all the time, so I don't know who's who.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Clint Russell is killing Tranny the guy he's lost his
mind since he's been doing the show with us. I
told him to calm down, but I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, he has been uh, he's also been uh kind
of everybody thinks he's a big racist now, which is
true kind of is Can I tell you I got
the Olympic sevens. The Olympic sevens, that's nice. I haven't
gotten any high top black and white blazers. I got
some really nice new Mt.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Low figerish of me because like I've been thinking, thanks Sam, Yeah,
I know this is a good show. There he is
like I have the ability to print shirts, and I
was like, I should just print shirts that match all
my Jordan's and but I'm like, that's so crazy. But
then I'm having your own If you can't fucking do that,
I know. That's what I'm saying, Like I have my
own printing press. Of course I'm gonna do that. That's

(08:02):
what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
I have my own printing press. You know what we
should do is we should when we when we go
to Leesburg, we make that the center of our operations.
We should Scott's here, what's up, Scott? Scott? What up? Baby? Uh?
We we should have like little little bins. You know
how you walk down the street and there's newspapers inside
little bins and they cross like a quarter. We should

(08:23):
have our own little bins. And it's just the most
unhinged ship that we print Scott in there.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Since you're here, can I show the people in the
Patreon the picture you sent me?

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Or is that just a no? Because it's it's understandable,
but it's it is art. I would say that I'd be.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Able to print it out and put its like banners.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah on magmar hip mo on lee muck got a
muck here. So like, let me show you Arcaneine, what.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
Are you talking about Do you see those Scott? You
see those those black pillars right there? We just putt
his picture printed out there. They're probably like four feet
by eight feet.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
I'll fig it out. I can. Can I print it
out or can I show it?

Speaker 5 (09:03):
Now?

Speaker 1 (09:03):
That's a big difference.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Okay, I'm gonna show the people because it's the greatest
picture that's ever been sent to me.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
I love this picture. I gotta make my think my
screen full screen so I could see it because oh wait,
you know what, I'm sorry. I don't want to pull
up like our conversation. Don't don't do that. I should
have warned you. There's a timeline cleansed move hold on. Yeah,
and I'm just sure every conversation I see it at
the tidy screen. It's so amazing.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
The story behind this picture is that he did Scott
wasn't able to make it for I don't want to.
I want to do your feet justice, Scott. Yeah, he
wasn't able to make ITEMI and Grove, but he did
pay for like a VIP package sort of thing, so
he got a cape and I just forgot to send
it out for like I don't know, months and months
and months. Yeah, and he was like, bro, you're gonna
send it. So I finally did send it and he

(09:58):
got it. And he doesn't say thanks, He doesn't say
any thing like that. He just sends me a picture of.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Him in the cap.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Are you guys ready? Press one, two, three if you
want to see this?

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, in the chat hold on, let me get in there.
The other one. I'm already looking, but I want to
see it twice. Yeah, there we go. At least we
know that we we want to see it. There we
are there also three I don't know.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
Well, I'm about to show you why you're here. Scott
wants to see it.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
All right, here we go. That's good enough for me.
Doomsday Doomsday cracker, damn baby king is the fucking definition
of luxury.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
By the way, fucked up Scott because I ran this
through chat GPT like the Ghibli Studio Ghibli feature, and
he gave it to me and then I lost the picture.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
I didn't save it. Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Then I tried to redo it and it did an
update and it wouldn't let me where. It was like no,
I was like, you can't do that. I flipped it
upside down. It was like still a little butt cheeks.
You know you can't do God great, Honestly, this with
the fucking Bohemian grove logo overlaid.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Over it is what a banger? Yeah, that's one hundred percent.
If we could crop it so it's now arrow and
make it like long skinny banners, it already is kind
of narrow like because that's what I'm saying he fits into. Yeah,
but you can make it a little bit more narrow,
have too, Oh yeah, like the twist hours they asked me.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
I went to the comic book store and they asked
me these people. I don't know what's up with these guys.
And I was like, listen, there's a there's a comedian
that's been on the Joe Rogan Experience, another guy from
Tim Cast. It'll be a big event, there'll be a
lot of people. And they were like, well, we'll have
to look into it and this and that. Yeah, he's
cheeked up, though, all right, we'll take it time. It's distracting.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Oh, it's so funny. Though.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
He goes to me, he says to me, He's like,
I will have to look into and all that. And
then some other guy that works there goes like, none
of these people own the place, so I haven't spoke
to the owner yet.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
These are just workers and the guy from the back
of the fucking venue.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Right, yeah, the comic book place, not the comic book place,
okay across the street.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, because there's a comic book place across the street. Guys,
they didn't have content.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Ah, so do you guys, like, do you have like
a brochure or anything? And I would fucking.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Love this was the docket. What if the docket was
just all on his legs, like, that's what you need?

Speaker 4 (12:07):
O god, it's so oh cracker, you're done, bro, It's
only been two minutes.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
All right, Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Matt takes back her one, two, three, It doesn't matter,
take no, take back seas already Scott said, this is
for the bros, not the hose.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
That's right. Ladies can't appreciate. Ladies don't appreciate fucking you
know art. Uh, that's not for them.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
That's ah fuck, that's funny. Okay, that's very funny. Thank you, Scott,
Thank you for doing that for us.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Guys. Are you excited though? In the are you guys excited?
Because I'm excited. I was telling Cindy, I'm going on
on the second ever vacation I've ever been on. Oh dope,
where are you going? So I'm going on a cruise.
It's almost certainly filled.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
With like, you know, like big when are you going
your anniversary?

Speaker 6 (12:55):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, we're going in the middle of it. So, which
reminds me that whole Rider Lee episode. It's got a
move now because my son's birthday is the one day
and then we're gonna be out on the ocean, you know,
doing a big ocean episode. What are you talking about?
Not Rider? Was it Rider? Frank? Quite frankly?

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Once it's back on, Oh yeah, that was on the fourteenth.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
You can't do it. I think I'm gonna be gone.
I think I'm gonna be on the ocean.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
Like I said, you know what, that's my when's your
anniversary with your wife?

Speaker 1 (13:23):
The twenty first May twenty first?

Speaker 4 (13:25):
That's right, Mine's is the fifteenth. I forgot you copied me.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I should.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
I've been thinking about going away too, and my wife
floated the idea of Jamaica. We got into a big fight,
big fight again. So now I don't think we're going to.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Go on the You can come on the cruise with
us and it'll because we're going with my cousin and
she's fucking awesome and her boyfriend, he's a lot of fun.
They're really cool people, and yeah, we're gonna be I
saw the boat. I didn't. It's called the Margaritaville. It's
fucking it looks like I'd never been on a like
a you know, anything really anywhere. And this thing is

(13:57):
the size of like a skyscraper, you do, like an
NVS cruise. But it's for our wife's anniversary, right, that's right,
and we'll just hit there ship fit, dude. Just like today,
I was at the bank, uh, trying to do this
you know account and yeah, yeah, yeah, what about how
how big fucking business we are, or about how.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Big business we're trying to open up a bank account?
Because like it's been small business, big big business moves.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, we got a bank account. Yo. Chat if you
if you don't have a bank account, no no, no,
no no. If your business your business has a bank account,
that's big business. What are you talking about, dude, it's
normal business. So anyway, I go to the fucking bank
to do big business and and uh, and the teller
I end up staying there an hour later than I

(14:47):
needed to an hour because I do an hour long
podcast with this teller. I just tell she's asking me
questions like do you think the polar shift has anything
to do with the return of Jesus Christ? And I'm
fucking I'm like in the middle of the office.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
And we stayed there for a long time. She told
me her son is coming to her with all these
like uh, he's like twenty five years old, and he's
like Hitler is the ship and the Jews are doing everything.
And I'm like, this is so funny. This is exactly.
He's the person you and your sudden need to be
watching my show. Oh see, Marty Mack has a big
business bank account, and fucking she says it's big business. Huh.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
I got a big business bank account. Yeah, but that's
a difference. So it's like, you can have a bank
account for business, but it might not be it might
not be big. Sorry, guys, I got a little distracted.
We have a brand new booking doctor Andrew Huff will
be on on Friday. That's gonna be yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Oh that's wild. Yeah. So that's the dude.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
He's a whistleblower for the Eco Health alliance. Uh, he
worked with Peter Daysak, the guy that kind of lied
about the COVID uh, the COVID vaccine. But he's gonna
come on kind of It's interesting he's coming on to
talk about the explosion of these food factories, which was
mentioned in the latest episode of Timfoil Hat. But I
think this guy might have a better insight on that.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
So the exclusion like meaning the literal like blowing up
and catching fire of the food factories.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Yeah, there was, and there was a lot of talk
in that episode, like there was overlay between COVID, between
these asteroids, between the fires and the food factories, and
a lot of egg talk as well. So this could
get really weird, really interesting.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Be there, Friday. I'm excited for that. Clint Russell says
he'd sniffed Scott's ass, and we knew you would. We
knew you would. Do you have to Did you share
with me the script so I could read? We got
to read the script.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
They're in the private chap Oh wait up, didn't you
have some kind of crazy story to tell too?

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Sorry, stick around after because we're going to be recording
like twenty minutes or so on. Dave Smith, and we're
going to do it like like brand new, like welcome back,
because it'll be a preview for when we re air
the episode we did with Dave Smith, Clint Russell and us.
We talked about God and Dave got real uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, but I rejected the premise over and over again. Yeah,
you know what, the you know what, that's a good point.
I forgot about that, Okay, good got about that. Fucking
I rejected the premise. Dude, that motherfucker rejected all my premises.
It was crazy that I fucking that I offered up
to him. He was like, I reject that, and I
was like, dude, what am I supposed to do with that?

Speaker 2 (17:20):
I know?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
I was like, answer the fuck?

Speaker 5 (17:21):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (17:22):
The okay, so this is perfect. Well we'll talk about
that after. Maybe he deserved what he got with that
fucking gay brit but whatever.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
That's fine, all right, Okay, So the story it's not
a it's not a crazy one. But okay, So I
was having I was laying down and I was having
sort of I think we talked about this. Uh, I
was having visuals and such. Sometimes I have that. I
don't know, I think everybody does. If you pay attention.
But I choose to pay attention. So I'm laying down

(17:48):
and I started seeing a bunch of shit behind my eyes,
and you know, I'm seeing like things that like objects
and people in places, but it's not like everything's you know,
foggy and dark and it's and I'm always like, damn, dude,
I've been able to do that for along. That was
something that I learned how to do when I was homeless,
because you know, it gets dark at night and everything's dark,
so you start, I don't know, I figured out how

(18:08):
to do this thing when I was homeless. I've been
doing it for a long time now, and it's never
done anything cool. I've never been able to like like
it feels like i'm starting to and like remote view
or some astral job. I'm not saying you should do that.
I'm just saying that's what it always feels like, feels
like the beginnings of it, and it never fucking goes anywhere.
So I'm laying in bed and I'm having this happen
and I start thinking, you know, you think to God,

(18:30):
like I'm not saying it out loud, but I'm thinking
very clearly and concisely about if I should do, like,
if this is okay to do, show me how to
do it. So it's not okay to do, don't show
me how to do it, right, okay? And so I
immediately get this notion that like, yeah, you have to

(18:51):
learn how to disassociate, and and I'm like, oh, yeah,
because that's the beginning of it, right, It's always the
beginning of it. They dissociate, they slip out or whatever.
And then the next thought that I have is like
binural beats, and I'm like, okay, binoral beats. I know that,
Like I know that. It just brought it to the
forefront of my mind. I don't know if that's God
being like yink, but that's still not like fucking camera

(19:13):
spirit fingers what I gotta go back to the spirit
finger days now. So that wasn't like an okay for
me to do.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
It was a bank account. We need to get David,
like a legitimate camera. This is getting bad now, it's
so annoying.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, So so I think about doing that and I recognize, like, okay,
I've got to learn to disassociate. A good place to
learn how to disassociate is binural beats. Right, and then
what ends up happening is we get an email and
I don't read the chronicles emails ahead of time. I
don't do it. But that's what I did. And it

(19:45):
was all about disassociation by way of binural beats. This
guy had done it.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Waits someone that says telepathy that it might have been.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
It was kind of new. You started right. I didn't
start it because I don't do that, because I'm not
organizational like that. I'll be already literally just press a
button anything that fucking is starret it's all you dude,
you got that on fucking star things. Uh, but it
was pretty new. It came in like less than a
week ago, and it should be already clicked on. I
know that. But I read the whole thing, and at

(20:14):
the end of it, it ends with him being like,
end it all fucking leads to like demonic interaction, poultergeist
activity and aliens coming towards you. Do you know this? Yeah?
And I was like, oh, yeah, I know that, because
there's just things that you don't remember in real time,
you know. But he's like, it's everything, It's the answer
for everything. It's it's definitively like, yes, you can do

(20:37):
this through this. This is how you do it. Binural beats.
You know, Monroe Institute, But the Monroe Institute seems to
have like made its own brand of binural beats that
brings you to a very specific frequency. I don't fucking know.
But long and short of it is, by the end
of it, he's like, yeah, and if you do this,
it's gonna increase like abduction phenomenon, it's going to increase

(20:58):
poltergeists activity, it's going to increase demonic and spiritual counters.
And I'm like, Okay. It just felt really crazy that
that was the answer, Like all of a sudden, it
just happened in like a couple of days. Do you
want to read it? Do you want to read that email?
I don't want to say. I mean, he wrote a lengthy,
well written thing. I don't want to do it here
because I'm sure he wants it right on the show,
you know what I mean. Okay, that's fine, Yeah, I

(21:21):
want to give it its due. But so I'm having
that right and then this thing happens. My wife has
a dream and it's me and her in her childhood
home and we're inside a bedroom and our son is calling,
but she knows in the dream that he's in school,

(21:42):
so she's like, what the fuck? And he keeps calling mommy, mommy,
and and then his voice starts to change. It's becoming
like angrier and much more aggressive, and it's getting closer,
and it's asking her to open the door. Now he's
not saying open the door, but it's on the other
side of the door, you know what I'm saying. And

(22:05):
I think it was knocking. And it doesn't sound like
our son anymore. It sounds like a monster. And she
starts reaching for the door, and in real life I
wake up, but like I'm waking her up already, and
I wake up as I'm waking her up, and she
wakes up because I've woken her up, and she goes, what,

(22:26):
And I go, you're having a bad dream. And I
kind of wake up in the middle of the sentence
You're having a bad dream, which is very strange, just
because I was like already moving before I really came to,
and I woke her up in her dream as she
was reaching for the door. But I woke her up
like I'm in the dream next to her, and I'm
in bed next to her. Are you guys are dreaming together.

(22:48):
I don't know. I didn't remember that dream. I just
know that I woke up because I had to wake
her up.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Let me tell you a story, sorry, put a pin
in that. We were talking with a great car, and
I think we were talking about the idea of telepathy
a little bit, and I said, oh, yeah, that happened
to me and my wife the other day. And then
I was going to tell the example, but we just
moved on real quick, and the example was we were
both in the shower, right uh, and I started singing

(23:16):
the exact part of a song that she had in
her head, and then she goes, holy shit, that's exactly
what I was singing in my head from like like
it's because it's the middle of a verse. Doesn't even
make sense, like not the part of a chorus, it's
like the middle of it. And I was like, that's weird.
And then she says, what am I thinking right now?
And I said nice, dick, and she said WHOA, like

(23:37):
for real? And I was like, bang, told you fucking
knew it, But it was it's weird because you're like
communicating yeah constantly.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, so when you're sleeping makes sense.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
There was.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
There was this one time in particular when me and
Cindy first like got together, and I forget what it was,
but something happened and it was so that.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
They're asking what song it was, the Mufasa song I
always wanted a brother from Disney fucking banger song.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, that's the new one, the new one. Yeah. I
don't even remember which part, but it was this part, whatever,
go ahead, tory, So okay. I remember we had like
this moment. It might have been like, let's say it
was something innocuous like a song thing right, Like it
was like, oh shit, And then because of that we
decided to like test it. And I remember twice in
a row, like, first I was like, what animal am

(24:26):
I thinking of? And I was She said the right
am She said bird, And I was thinking of birds.
But the way that I knew to give her the
message was I wasn't just thinking like bird, bird, bird bird.
I was thinking like of sensations, like when you you're
in the city and you walk through a bunch of
pigeons and like the chaos of Like I was thinking
of like all the minutia of birds and the feeling

(24:49):
of being around them, and shit, and then and I
was like, oh, she said birds. I said birds. It
was like, oh my god. And then I did it
again and then but this time I was thinking about turtles, dude,
and she fucking guessed.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
What's a sensation? A turn as like the clumping.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
No, you just think about like like I thought of
like Ninja turtles and like just like turtle ship, like
what turtles do, like everything about turtles, you know? Uh,
egg salad, Sauser said, is raven okay? I r L?
Or is he as retarded as he seems? What is

(25:23):
that different?

Speaker 4 (25:23):
He brings a level of like menacing violence, I r L.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
But yes, very much the same. A lot of knives.
I have a lot of there, like more like beautiful decore.
All right, let's let's uh, I thought, Oh, but going
back to your ring, I'm not random right now because
I've been comfy, cozy. I had no intention of doing this.
I was just lounging, you know what I mean. So
you you take him on and off like, well, yeah,

(25:49):
because they can get in the way of things. You know.
I like to work out while I'm at home, and
it's it hurts a lot to grip things with fucking
a bunch of goofy rings on. But but with my son,
isn't it interesting though? Because it was like, what did
it do? It took an aspect of him, right, because
they're always imitating. We're just like familiar spirits and ship
will imitate like loved ones. Turtles like eggs. Dude, I

(26:12):
fucking love a turtle. My favorite pokemon was Squirtle and
then fucking they.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
Used to call me turtle in school because I was
a little fat turtle egg.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Let me look fat, that's funny, I like. Yeah, I
like how they call fat Mexican chicks dorthas dothas. Oh
though that's the food. But yeah, yeah, but they call
them they like Mexican chick with a wide back and
no neck. Oh that that's the nastiest. But yeah, look
at that.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Actually this looks like a fucking fat Mexican bitch, right,
They kind of look like this, like with the eyes
like that, like real sad looking, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
They do. Like if I moved out of the I'm
not moved out of the hood yet, jin. My move
out date is twenty first. Oh wait of this month.
Uh no, no, no, no, no, no, next month, next month, right,
that's right, yeah, Oh you're out of a Look at that, dude.
It's so crazy. So you know, we're going on a trip,

(27:06):
We're going, we're moving, and then the next month we're
doing Bohemian Grove Like it's gonna be a crazy May
and June are fucking nuts for me? Whorl wind whirlwind?
So what were you saying? What? It was fascinating that
it was using there you go time like that, it
was using my son's likeness, and it was asking to

(27:28):
come in.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Mmmm.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
And that crazy both of you, same dream for both
of you. Well, like I said, I didn't have the dream.
I just woke up because I knew she was in distress.
Like I woke up and like in it with an urgency.
I woke her up at the same time I woke
up somehow, like simultaneously shaking her awake and waking up myself.
And yes, I stopped her from grabbing the doorknob. But

(27:52):
I just think it's fascinating because and I was forced
to like kind of do some uh what would you
call it, like housekeeping, like internal housekeep. I'm like, what's
going on? Because I'm like something it was allowed to
use his visage or at least his likeness. Why And
maybe I should be asking why that was allowed? You

(28:13):
know what I mean, because it's asking for permission, but
it's pretending to be him, and it's also keeping the
guys up up until a certain point where like eventually
it does reveal itself to be something else, because she
said it was it sounded like a monster eventually instead
of him. And it's like, yeah, well, you probably can't
get in. I can't give you permission if I have

(28:33):
no idea at all that it's not who you say
it is. You have to give me something that indicates
so I have some sort of knowledge of it while
I'm consenting. You get what I'm saying, right, right, right? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (28:45):
Well, I mean I guess it could trick you, but
it just doesn't seem fair that it could trick you
and then expose itself that way, Like you have to
let that thing in in its true form or fashion.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, So it felt like I
don't know, I'm just left with this question of like
why was it allowed to do that? And maybe I'm
overthinking it, but it all seemed to be like the
spiritual hallmarks were there, like as far as the knocking
on the door. It's fun. Tried to trick your wife,
not yet, and it used it used her childhood home,
which I think, like everybody experiences some level of trauma

(29:18):
in early childhood, and I think that's like my early
childhood homes have come up in my dreams before she
says that one is recurring that that place from her
like really early childhood, and I'm like, yeah, that's probably
when some familiar got you a little bit way back
in the day and has been dragging. You've been dragging
it and it brings you back to some place familiar

(29:41):
to disarm you. So if you could, like because nostalgia
is comfort, right, so if it can make you feel nostalgic,
it can make you feel comfortable. And then it uses you, know,
our sun, which is another added layer of deception. It's
taking things that are close to you and leveraging them.
And so then I'm just asked to I'm left to
be like, why why was it able to do that,

(30:03):
like even get his voice, let's say, which is what
it seemed to have gotten for a little bit. I
don't know, I could be just overthinking it. It's a
good question. It's a good question. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Yeah, some housekeeping. Let me know what you what you
find out?

Speaker 1 (30:18):
I got my son a phone.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Oh that's that's not good, literally said they said. The
real question is what are we consenting to by being
here in this live chat? And I'll tell you what
you're consenting.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
To all this.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
There you go, which you're consenting to? You asked for it,
Baimian Grove, you live for it. June twentieth and twenty first,
All right, that's what we're really here for.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
But should I should we? Should we do this? Actually,
I'll tell you about my dream.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
It was.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
It's not even a joke. I did have like a
fucking I lost a lot of sleep. It was a
night terror and I was back in Jamaica and it
was a if. I don't know if you guys have
listened to Uh sorry, wait when did this happen?

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Uh hmm Friday night? Maybe? Oh shit, okay, Friday night. Yeah,
I was back in Jamaica. This is like not a joke.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
Go go and listen to the episode of Tower Gang.
It was called Carne's of the Caribbean or Carneys of
the Caribbean, where I tell you about my Caribbean but
the same exact thing from the flight to the landing
to getting to the airport. We get to the airport,
Jamaican guy lies to us, but this time the decision

(31:22):
that me and my wife have to make, he lies
to us, like because we there's supposed to be a
shuttle that brings you from the airport there, and the
Jamaican guy goes, no, chatel man, only cabs.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
So then like my wife's like, should we take a cab?
And I'm like, he's lying to you, like we'll have
to wait for the shuttle, Like, clearly you can tell
when this guy's lying. But she didn't get a dream. No,
this is this happened.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
But in my dream it played the same way, except for, uh,
he didn't say cab. Like the only thing we could
do is is take a train. So then we had
to take a train, and it was like a if
you've ever been on the A Line in New York
City from the like the airport, the same kind of train.
And I was like, oh my god, and we're on
the train and I'm just like super shady. I'm like

(32:04):
if we have our bags, and I'm trying to protect
my wife. And then my wife gets off, and I
realize my phone is dropped out of my pocket and
I run back.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
I go and I grab it in the thing and
the door is closed. Bring me to the next stop.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
And now my wife was there, yeah, yeah, and now yeah,
but like I can't communicate with her. Turns out it's
a bad dream because Jamaica is too fucking backwards to even.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Have a train. They have a train, They did have
a train, but it was like there was a huge.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
Accident and killed like one hundred and thirty people or
something like that, because imagine the kind of road work
that's being done with this.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Trail backflips over the train as it comes by.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
And shape, it's just fucking torking on the tracks and
shit when they're supposed to be spikes. Yeah, so that
was my bad dream, but it was realistic as fuck
because like the first part of it was like exactly
what I lived through, and the second part was like
fantasy because it didn't exist. But I was like, god damn.
And I told my wife and she said, yeah, I
would have probably died, Like if I went on the

(32:59):
train and she was stuck somewhere else, is I would
I would have probably been dead and I was like, so,
let's not ever go to a place right where you'd
be dead if just left alone.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
And she's like, I agree. She's like, okay, so now
you're not going to Jamaica.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
Right, Jamaica is one big waffle house.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
What it is going to Mexico and I don't have
any intentions of leaving the fucking the like area. I
don't know there's like a designated area. I guess I've
never really been on a cruise or anything.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
So they'll bring you to a resort and then there's
an excursions. I'll never do an excursion in a third
world country ever. Again, it's not worth.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Funny because I wanted to do an excursion because I
like it. I just feel like I can't do an
excursion with my wife. That's what I feel like I
can't do.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
Yeah, it's it's risky because I'm like, I could watch
my back, but if we got to run up all right,
all right, let's fucking read this ad and we'll figure
out how we're gonna break this up.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
You want to, I'll start it off. I guess right. Well,
they said to read everything for the audience. I guess, uh,
we're gonna read two things, and there we gotta reading.
You got to read the whole thing. I gotta read
the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Oh, this is going to be painful for the audience
then and whatever.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yeah, yeah, dude, it's not going to be good for them.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Well this there's there's more people in here than there
were for like Great Carwood.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
What is going on? Why why are you guys watching
this right now? This is so funny. Yeah, this isn't
gonna be good viewing experience. We have to try to
do a fucking a read, like a like a read
for a commercial.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
It's and this read is bad too, because it's like
this is AI and it's just like put in humor.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
That's not mine. I also haven't read it. I've just
copied it. So here we go.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
We're actually sent it in the private chat. I gotta
open it's in the private chat, all right. It starts
off high high Wes. This is your ad read.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
This is yeah, what time is it? Keep a timestamp
so that he doesn't have to do all this. Yeah,
here we go thirty four minutes. Okay, so fucking bad ship.
It's okay, hold on, I gotta stop laughing already.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
All right, Somewhere between Area fifty one Comedy Central and
a really intense episode of Ancient Aliens, there exists a place,
a gathering, a vortex of truth, paranoia, and questionable crowd control.
I don't even I don't like this. Welcome to Brohemian Grove.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
No, no, no, we're gonna fucking do it. We're gonna
do the whole thing. Reta do it, and then I
gotta do it, so you gotta go all the way
through it. Oh that's not fair.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
You get to see my miss all right, whatever, This
isn't your average conspiracy This isn't your average conspiracy convention.
It's not a conspiracy convention. This is a conspiracy show
with comedy the second day, and it's definitely not your
average comedy show. This is a two day descent into
hilarious and horrifying Wait is this even legal? June twentieth

(35:47):
and twenty first, deep into the human mysticism of Leesburg, Florida,
joined the tribe of truth seekers, skeptics, and absolutely unqualified
experts at the Tropic for a week and you probably
shouldn't tell your boss about Yo. That's actually great. Are
they paying attention to AI? Must be paying attention to
like the Joe Rogan effect, the unqualified as experts part

(36:09):
very smart.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
I don't know that was a banger, though, I'm surprised
at it that it came up with that. I'm gonna
mute mine because because I'm laughing, door in yours, and
they're gonna be like, we can't fucking use this, because
this is laughing. All right, I'm gonna be day one.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
We open the portal entities, aliens, the occult shadow governments,
shit like that, dimensions we don't fully understand, but talk
about confidently anyway. And then it says to put clips
of UFOs flying in Florida, Shane Cashman speaking with glowing eyes,
a crowd chanting, the owl is not what it seems.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
It's hilarious. What does that mean? The owl is not
what it seems. I don't know, but I like it.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
It should be Brohemian grove. The owl is not what
it seems. I like that as a all right, narrator
says again, hosted by the cosmic cowboy of consciousness himself,
Shane Cashman, who will guide you through this metaphysical minefield
with grace, but the grace of a man who stared
into the abyss and politely ask it. Okay with Okay,

(37:07):
let's let's try that again. Hosted by the cosmic cowboy
of consciousness himself, Shane Cashman. He'll guide you through this
metaphysical mindfield with the grace of a man who stared
into the.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Abyss and politely asked it. For a podcast interview.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
You'll experience live podcasts, wild performance is unsolicited spiritual awakenings,
No you won't, and the kind of conversations that get
you U that get and the kind of conversations that get.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Your groups okay.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
You'll experience live podcasts, wild performances and the kind of
conversations that will get your groups chats that will get
your group chats flagged.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
By the NSA. God, damn it. All right, we'll flipping
back to the guys. Do you see why? You see
why we hate doing this shit? Dude, It's so hard.
It's so hard. It's like I could talk to somebody
for an hour and a half and have no problem,
but all this is so professional. They're trying to fast forward.
You can't. As a matter of.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
Fact, this is this is so bad that I don't
think people will come to this from watching. No, No,
they're gonna they're gonna fucking make it a really great ad.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Read Okay, we're gonna we're gonna muscle through it.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
Okay, yeah, uh, We're back West featuring Tower Gang because
suddenly is for lizards.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
I don't know what that means. It's featuring Tower Subtle
because subtlety is for lizards. What the fuck is amazing? Bro?
Read it? Okay, obviously this ai is is all fucked
up in the game. It says Tower Gang because subtle
Subtlety is for lizards. Neliu, half music, half divine reckoning,
and yes, probably a guy selling crystals out of a

(38:49):
tackle box.

Speaker 6 (38:49):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
What the there's actually a store down down the road
there that does sell crystals, but I don't think anyone should.
I don't know if you guys are gonna do it anyway.
So featuring Tower Gang and Nephelin des Squad, there's gonna
be a bunch of other performers there as well. We
have not nailed down the list, but they will be there.
There will be a conspiracy roundtable, all your favorite people.
It's gonna be a lot of retarded fun. Then comes

(39:11):
day two. Day two isn't just off the rails. There
are no rails. It's just a microphone, a stage, and
it'll be headlined by Sam Tripley, armed with truth bombs
and jokes that can get him kicked out of Bohemian
Grove itself. That's the place where they sacrifice children.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah, they drink them.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
It's unfiltered, uncensored, and quite possibly a sy op, but
a really fun one. So again, we're just gonna keep
reading and whatever West decides to cut, I guess he'll cut,
featuring more madness. Are you flipping around on me?

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (39:46):
Okay, featuring more madness from Tower Gang, Shane Cashman, Nephelin
des Squad, and surprise guests you'll either recognize from Twitter
or from your astral dreams. This is the third Brohemian Grove,
that's right, one, two, three, number three, because the first
two just weren't successful.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
I wouldn't call them a success. I mean, we did
something and people remember it, but I don't know what's
the mark of success. We did it, we did it
all right. So if you're tired of the lies, if
you crave the truth but you like to laugh until
you're crying into your beer, then pack your tinfoil hat,
grab your weirdest friends, and get to Bohemian Grove. I'm

(40:25):
gonna say that again.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
So if you're tired of the lies, if you crave
the truth, but you also like to laugh until you
cry in your beer, pack your tinfoil hat, grab your
weirdest friends, and get to Bohemian Grove. June twenties to
twenty First The Tropic Leesburg, Florida Conspiracies Comedy Chaos two nights,
infinite questions, at least one guy trying to sell you

(40:49):
DMT in the parking lot. Tickets are on sale now,
and remember, if you don't show up, the Jews win.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
That's crazy that they wrote that.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
Oh my god, there's another one too that had had
a really cool, uh a really cool like ending or
something like that.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Everybody's noticing that I threw my cat. I had to
throw my cat, don't worry. Yeah, I had to get
I did it last time too, because she's a fat bitch, babe.
Can you get the cat? The cat? Can you get
the cat?

Speaker 4 (41:30):
He's getting the cat? Sorry, Wes, we're trying to figure
there was actually a really good line in here, but
it was about like, oh, here it is this is
this is cool, all right, So, welcome to Brohemian Grove.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
What are you ready?

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Ready West, Welcome to Brohemian Grove.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Three. No, that's not that's not what I laugh. I mean,
here we go. Welcome to Rohemian Welcome to Brohemian Grove.
Two days. Shut up, I gotta beat it, I gotta.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
Be okay, okay, okay. Welcome to Bohemian Grove. Two days,
one portal, countless conspiracy theorists, stand up degenerates, and at
least three people who have swear they've been abducted.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Bro honestly, Brohemian Grove three, two days. One portal is
a banger. Two days, one portal. It's a banger, dude,
two days. One portal is a banger. Brohemian Grove three,
two days, one portal. Oh my god, it's beautiful. That's beautiful. Okay, okay,

(42:38):
all right, I'm gonna read the whole thing now.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
I'm gonna skipped my afternoon for this ship.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Yeah I know, I don't know why. Okay, Yeah, this is,
Like I said, more Patreon viewers on this than any
other thing we've fucking done. This is a good one.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
You'll be guided through the astral Noise by Shane Cashman,
part journalist, part oracle, part time traveling swamp mystic. He's cracked,
like open more portals than your cousin has crypto wallets.
I don't know what that means, but uh, I liked
where it was going and then it fell off.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Don't use them. Okay, this is there's like all this
negative space above it. This is the beginning of it, right,
the one that we just read, because I'm supposed to
read the exact same thing. Yeah, I don't know why
there's so much negative space. Let's go ahead and delete that.
That might have been me. Actually when my cat stepped
on the keyboard.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
Okay, that's what happened, all right. When you threw the cat,
I was like, what the fuck did you do?

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (43:29):
I can't wait. All right, I'm gonna mute myself because this.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Is I'm gonna try to just rip through this. Dude,
We're gonna rip through this. It's gonna happen, all right.
All right there, I'm gonna take my headphones off because no,
it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. I wanted to do that,
all right. Here we go, Wes and dude, no, you
gotta mute your thing. Don't laugh. I can't see you,
and then and thank God for that, but I can't

(43:52):
hear you either. Don't do that. Okay, here we go
Wes and three two one. Hold on, I'm gonna laugh.
All right, we're better now, damn all right. Somewhere between
area I actually think I'm crying, so I can't use
that show. I already fucked up. Incredible. Okay, here we

(44:15):
go West, We're good, three two one. Somewhere between Area
fifty one Comedy Central and a really intense episode of
Ancient Aliens, there exists a place, a gathering, a vortex
of truth, paranoia, and questionable crowd control. Welcome to Brohemian Grove.

(44:38):
To me, I imagine there's like cool techno music there.
It's cool. You're doing good. This isn't your average conspiracy convention,
and it's definitely not your average comedy show. This is
a two day descent into the hilarious, the horrifying, and

(44:58):
the was this it's legal. Wait close enough, he'll have
to take that one.

Speaker 6 (45:05):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Here we go. June twentieth and twenty first, Deep in
the humid mysticism of Leesburg, Florida, Join the tribe of
truth seekers, skeptics, and absolutely unqualified experts at the Tropic
for a weekend you probably shouldn't tell your boss about.

(45:26):
All right, this is day one. I have to take
like a break in between. It's very intense. I love
watching them do this shit. There's been sometimes where I
have to edit this myself and I have to go
through David just going, dude, it's intense. After I'm done,
I have to like, I'm not breathing for these. I'm
not breathing for these. Okay. Day one we open the

(45:47):
portal entities, aliens, the occult, shadow governments, dimensions we don't
fully understand, but talk about confidently. Anyway, Just read it,
Just read it. Don't worry about dude. I gotta scroll.
I gotta do that. All right. Now, we're good. We're good.
Okay hosted Hey babe, you can't barge in here like that.

(46:15):
All right, Here we go, Here we go, hosted by
the cosmic cowboy of consciousness himself, Shane Cashman, who will
guide you through the metaphysical mindfield with the grace of
a man who has stared into the abyss and politely
asked it for a podcast interview. A scrolling you'll experience

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live podcasts, wild performances, unsolicited spiritual awakenings, and the kind
of conversations that get your group chats flagged by the
NSA featuring performances from Tower Gang, Nephelum Death Squad. And
then like, other people will be there too. I love
he should just leave that just right there. I flum

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desk one and like other people to other people will
definitely be there. Then comes day two. They're just like
all this ship it says, drum hit. Everyone gets more chaotic, laughter, scream.
Somebody yells birds aren't real while chugging a beer. That's
fucking literally what a I said. Okay, Day two is alright, mh.

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Day two isn't just off the rails. There are no rails.
It's so stupid. Do whatever you want with it. Fucking
I don't know what. I'm just doing what it tells
me to. Okay, yeah, that is gay, right, there are
no rails. Yeah, I can't think. I can't add lib
and read at the same time. That's that's insane. Though.

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Day two isn't just off the rails. There are no rails.
So sorry, I'm fucking we're going past it. Uh, there's
just a microphone, a stage, and Sam Tripoli armed with
truth bombs and jokes that can get him kicked out
of Bohemian Grove itself. Augh, this is taxing, dude. It's unfiltered, uncensored,

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and quite possibly a psyop, but a really fun one,
also featuring more madness from Tower Gang, Shane Cashman waits
just telling me the same fucking three people again? And
Bethhale Death Squad. Uh oh okay, okay, this is the
third Brohemian Grove. That's right, third, because the first two

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weren't just successful, they were nearly declared interdimensional threats. There
we go. So if you're tired of the lies, if
you crave the truth but also like to laugh until
you're crying into your beer, then pack your tinfoil, grab
your weirdest friends, and get to Brohemian Grove.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Final over the top movie trailer tone, how are we okay?
All right? We have to do a the movie voice
is what it's saying. Conspiracies, comedy, chaos, two nights, infinite questions,
at least one guy trying to sell you DMT in

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the parking lot. That hurts man, that hurts uh. And
then it says at the end. And remember, if you
don't show up, the Jews win. That's it. That's it.
That's what. If you have to say Bohemian Grove three,

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two days, one portal. Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, you say that,
and then I'll say that. Ready, you go.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
First, Bohemian Grove three, two days, one portal.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Okay, Brohemian Grove three, two days, one.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
Portal, two days, one portal. All right, all right, that's fine.
All right, we're gonna cut this part out of whatever
this goes up on. So guys, if you just missed that,
we just didn't add read. If you're not a Patreon,
you could have listened to that.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
That was gold. It was not torture at all to
the audience. Huge torture for me. Yeah, well, people are here.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
Welcome back, Welcome back to another episode of Nephelin Death Squad.
We are going to this is a this is a
throwback episode, so we're just flying right into it.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
We're gonna be reviewing the episode about Dave Smith that
we did like a year ago, the one that Philibonte
said was like c list bullshit, like early podcasting day stuff.
I thought it was an okay episode. I thought it
was better than he could do. But it comes on
the heels I mean, as we re aer it. It's
coming on the heels of Dave's very famous debates, which

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he's now he's kind of known for doing with uh,
what is his name, Douglas Kake Murray. I forgot his name.
I think that was it. I didn't know it was
a Douglas k Murray, but yeah, I mean that was him,
that was the guy. Yeah, So he had this debate.
What do you what do you think about it? From
the from the layman's perspective, What did you think about

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what you saw there? Well? I didn't watch it, okay,
and that's mostly because you know it's debate. I look,
I actually hung up my appetite whatever appetite there ever
was for debate many many years ago, because of Joe
Rogan's podcast, because he had somebody on who was talking
about it was two people. One was representing the plant

(51:41):
based diet, the other one was representing the carnivore diet. Yeah.
And what I discovered was, despite having subjected myself to
that four hour debate, and despite having subjected myself to
previous hour's worth of content on diet and nutrition, via
the Joe Rogan Podcast. I still couldn't defend it say
that one was the winner and one Wasn't you know

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what I mean, Like it was like there was no
definitive answer still after all that time invested, And I
realized then that the nature of debate, just the language
that that people use, it makes it so that it's
it's not really ever about the information. It's about almost
like tricking your opponent and and getting an advantage over

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them and and kind of like shmearing them, straw manning them.
There's like all kinds of me shmearing them. Yeah, there's
all kinds of debate tactics that make it so that
if you can see them, you realize that this is
not going to change your mind, and this is just
about it almost evolves into like character assassination. It's it's
ultimately a popularity contest by the end of it. And
it's actually good.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
That's a good point to bring in, uh, this debate.
I'll show you this video of this debate because it's
what happened in the Joe Rogan debate.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
So here we go.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
You'll you'll see what's going on here. So Douglas Murray
is actually debating Douglas Murray the veracity of using experts
and people who weren't there for their opinions.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
So here we go.

Speaker 6 (53:07):
Have you been to the crossing points?

Speaker 2 (53:09):
I really resent that form of argumentation. When were you
last there at all?

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (53:13):
I really resent it. You should at least through the
courtesy of visiting it. This is not an attractive invitation.
I think it's a good idea to see stuff, particularly
if you spend a career talking about something. I have
the right to talk about whatever the hell I want,
and no one's going to stop me or try to
intimidate me. And I think that if I said to
somebody else the other way around, it would be equally reprehensible.

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I have a journalistic rule of trying never to talk
about a country, even in passing, unless I've at least
been there. If I said, shut up. You have no
right to criticize anything that Douglas Murray says, because hang on,
you're talking about crossing points and not only have you
never been to a crossing point in either Egypt or
in Israel, but you never even been to the region. Okay,
it's not an exact comparison, but seriously, is that a

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reasonable form of argument. No, in that case, nobody can
talk about anything. We might as well pack.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Up, go home and isolate ourselves.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
If you're insisting that you're an expert of some kind,
or not claiming you're an expert but still talking about it,
if you've never seen any of this going on. I mean,
there are some people who've written about the I mean,
there are people who written about the Holocaust who didn't
experience the Holocaust and have written about it better than
people who did.

Speaker 6 (54:22):
But that is a different matter from spending an awfully
long amount of time talking about an issue in a
region you haven't even had the courtesy to visit whilst
developing all of these views about it.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
This idea that the lived experience has to triumph over
everything else is not always correct. Should at least know
what it is, what the territory is, what the situation
is in the region. So there's an irony to this,
but let's skate over the irony.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
It's hilarious. So this clip, this clip was actually juxtaposed
by Tyler Yankee. At first I was doing no well,
some he had taken the both clips of that entire
interview that he's talking to Lex Friedman. Thank god we
didn't have to fucking listen to Lex Friedman. Yeah, And
when he's talking to Dave Smith and the Joe Rogan
Experience with a red background, obviously, his idea to Dave

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was that you're not allowed to speak on these things
because you haven't even visited the region. So number one,
you have to be an expert to talk about these things.
If you're not an expert, you're just a guy saying stuff.
Or he called Dave a comedian multiple times and just
like insulted him this way, and then Dave didn't have
the wherewithal I suppose to push back and be like,
fuck you, you're a British baggett literally, and he just

(55:41):
kind of let him do that, which I'm like, that's
like that was just beyond the pale, Like you let
this guy call you whatever and he kind of just
got away with it.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
You should have whatever.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
So he goes on to say, like, you have to
be an expert to talk about stuff, otherwise your opinion's invalid.
But on this other podcast here he's saying, you know,
he's like, I resent that completely that you have to
have lived experience to talk about it, because The idea
back then was you're talking about black issues, but you're
a British guy, so you shouldn't be able.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
And he's like, now in the context of that that clip,
oh interesting.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
Yeah, it's just so again like debate is like not
it's nothing ever truthful. It's just to win an argument.
It's never to even make a solid point.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
And this, dude, everybody's so slippery in a debate, you know,
it's like trying to grab that like really wet soap,
you know, or something. It just do. It feels like
that's the objective, is to squirm out of your opponent's
grasp over and over again. It's a matter of like
trying to pin down your opponent and accuse them of
something or say that they misrepresented something or they misunderstood something,

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and their entire thing is just to squeam, you know,
to squirm out of that. It feels very much like
it's verbal wrestling, like actual like reco Roman verbal wrestling.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
Yeah, but both guys are lubed up, and in this exchange, Dave,
your wrestling partner is a game man. Yeah, So, which
makes this extraordinarily, i mean exponentially more gay than it
should have should have had to been.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Shouldn't It doesn't Like I'm not I don't know this guy,
Douglas Murray, but I'm imagining that this is his modality.
Right when he becomes like when he gets into a
public speaking sort of a situation, he's combative or he's
using debate tactics. But like, he just strikes me as
somebody that this is his thing. And look, you're not
gonna get on Rogan and have a debate if you're
if it's not your thing, if you're not you know,

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into doing or familiar with debating. And so it strikes
me as significant that if he has carved out a
career or any notoriety by way of debate. But then
you look at his own opinions and they're completely in
opposition to one another to the extent where you can
make him debate himself if you clip it the right way. Uh,
that should tell you everything you need to know about debate.

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Is it can make a man who is deceitful successful.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
Yeah, he's he's extremely deceitful. So the way this argument
went is he came in to the debate and immediately
called out like Jake Shields and Ian Carroll. I think
I think Ian Carroll might be gay. He called him out,
he called out.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Gay possibly.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
He called out Dave Smith for being just a comedian
but talking about things that might bring up harmful issues.
So it's like basically his argument to Joe Rogan. He
wasn't even talking to Dave, he was talking directly to Joe,
and he was like, how come you give these people
a platform and they do these things? Like you should
really think about this before you do this. It was
a struggle session for like thirty forty minutes. So gay,

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he's super gay. Then it got to the point where
you know, Dave's whole point was like, hey, you know
they're murdering kids, babies in Gaza just to try to
flush out terrorism, which this guy actually admits that, like,
you're never going to get rid of this terrorist agency.
It's an idea, it's not a government. You're just making Honestly,
you're making more of them by doing this. But what

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you're doing is bombing them. And he's like, oh, well
there's a cost. So then Dave's like, okay, so is
the cost fifteen thousand children, you know, with their limbs
and heads blown off? Is that the cost, because if
it's a cost and just say yes and then we
can agree to disagree and move on. And the guy's
just very slippery. So I reject the premise this kind
of thing. I rechecked the premise of that is like, see,
how does that feel, Dave? How does it feel to

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have your rejected?

Speaker 1 (59:24):
That was the thing that I noticed about Dave Smith,
who I am a fan of. But I recognize that
no one has ever communicated with me in that way,
and I mean that very seriously. I've communicated with It's
not like my show was big, but I used to
interview people all the time. I've interviewed over hundreds of people.
Not a huge accomplishment by any stretch, but it's like

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I've got a pretty good sample size of how people
tend to interact with me. There are those who have
I'm not saying this is Dave, but there are those
who have something to hide and me, and those people
don't really mesh that well. But there are those who
are like, really genuine and don't have any kind of
baggage going into an interaction with me. Those people mesh
really well with me. This is the first time I
had anybody say anything to me like I reject the premise,

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to which I wanted to respond, I don't understand the statement.
I'm and I mean that's seriously, like I'm stupid. I've
never had anybody say to me in conversation that they
reject my premise like that's fucking I feel like I
just got hit with a robot. Like it was a
Really it was actually a frustrating episode because it felt
a lot like I was dealing with somebody who couldn't

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answer the question what if you didn't have breakfast this morning? Right?
And it was like, instead of saying like, but I
did have breakfast, it's them saying I reject the premise
of that question. It's like, cause here, here's what happened.
I guess.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
So you guys will be listening to the episode in
a couple of minutes at this will be paired with
the episode of Dave Smith and Clint Russell and us
right after. But I think something similar happened here. And
again I don't want to, like, you know, talk shit
about Dave and all this, but I mean, whatever, we'll
do it anyway. This is something that I do on
Tower Gang where I'm making fun. But I think what
happened here with so with Douglas Murray, Dave had a

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debate with him that attacked this weird under belly of
his ideology, and that's Israel and at the very bottom
of a people like, oh, this debate was about experts.
This debate was about lived experience. This debate was about
you know, fucking I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Know, war in the Middle.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
No, it was about about Jews. It was unfortunately, it
was about Jews. This guy is married to a Jew,
He's been to Israel, He's been given awards. He's specifically
been given awards for his courageous, outspoken rhetoric. After October seventh,
the October seventh attacks, which he was also allowed to
score them out of with Dave. Dave was like, hey, listen,

(01:01:46):
there's there's some evidence here that of net and Yahoo
and the guy Ehud Barak, the guy that preceded him,
saying that they actually supported the funding of Hamas in Gaza.
They supported that for whatever reason, I don't know, they
supported it. So now when I look at the October
seventh attacks and I'm like, oh, wow, what a tragedy.

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So a bunch of guys with towels on their heads
and fucking I think like the original thing was that
they came in with like paragliders with fans, the hang
gliders with fans on their backs and like you know,
Oozi's and they shot this place up and I was like, oh,
but they did that. They flew into a rave, and
then they breached your border, your iron dome, and they
were there for seven hours before there was a response.

(01:02:29):
I don't know how fucking big Israel is, but I
assume that you probably have, like within thirty minutes, the
IDF is pretty much anywhere. So seven hours no response
from an organization that you guys are on record recorded
saying that you support the funding of as a conspiracy theorist,
it sounds awful lot like you wanted that to happen

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so that you could do this response. But Douglas Murray
rejected the premise immediately. He's like, I reject the premise.
It's awesome that you would say that that Israel supported
the funding of Hamas the terrorist agencies, like, but they
fucking did with his own words, and then he'll he
even goes further to say the gas lighting this episode
was tremendous, but even goes further to say like a oh,

(01:03:14):
what so you just you'll just you know, cherry pick,
like like so when so when the IDF says something
or when Massad says something, then you just believe it then.
And Dave's like, yeah, I kind of believe when they
tell me, you know, the things that they're doing wrong,
and they kind of just let that slip. I believe that,
and then I also parse through their lives. But anyway,
getting off track here, what happened was is that Dave

(01:03:37):
and Doug had this debate where it's almost indefensible, especially
at this point where it because it's been laid bare,
that Israel is just kind of demonic kind of garbage.
And with our it wasn't even a debate With Dave.
I wanted to have a discussion, but it kind of
turned a little contentious because you got you started getting
frustrated with them. It was about God and liberty and

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these two things coexist. And I know Dave, you know,
his son had surgery from as a child, and he
saw that as like a miracle, like he's seeing his
daughter born. Was like he was like, this is a miracle.
He's like I started I started to believe in that
there was a God period.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
That was my question to Dave was in regards to
the tenacity that he absorbs, you know, political literature and
and and you know works constantly to have this understanding
of geopolitics and things like that. If you have this
big moment where you realize that God is real because
you had a child, how does that realization not take

(01:04:39):
precedence at least in regards to your your fascination, you
know what I mean. Like, it's like and that's really
I was just trying to and then of course he's
rejecting that premise I believe was his actual response to you.

Speaker 4 (01:04:51):
But I don't even understand the premise that was being
rejected there. I need to I should re listen to
the episode.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
But what is hard because I think I kind of
laid back for the first half and then once we
started waiting into more like religious, spiritual waters and conspiratorial
waters is when I started to to pipe up a
little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
But I was, like, I said, it's a weird interview
for Dave because like so he knows me from the
like a libertarian background, and I brought him on and
I told him that I wanted what I wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
To talk about he was.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
It was off the heels of the debate that he
had with that guy Andrew from Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
I wanted to talk about that, the the the COVID
lockdown era debate with Andrew Cuomo. Well, the other the
other angel, Anthony Cuomo talking about the one of them
is a CNN reporter and the other one was the
governor of New York.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
No, the guy that, uh, the guy that pushed him
on he's he's on like the whatever show. We were
supposed to interview his wife.

Speaker 6 (01:05:48):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
He had a debate with Andrew Willson, I think and
maybe his last name.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
Yeah, and Andrew was not fair in that debate, but
it was very much like a debate or an argument
on like religious ends, sort of like like how this
coincides with liberty. They were talking past each other and
then Andrew used a bunch of bait tactics that I
was like, this is just like not going anywhere, and
it was just very weird. So I was like I
told Dave, I was like, I want to discuss this

(01:06:14):
stuff with you, and he said, yeah, to come on
to discuss that. But I still think that maybe he forgot,
but he's like, oh, yeah, top, we're going to talk
about Rothbard, Like I'm not fucking talking about mess or Rothbard.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
Like we've already.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
I've done that before. I've been on like Josh Smith's
show with this guy and we've you know, I don't
want to do that. I'm we're past that. So he
brought that up a couple of times and I was like,
that doesn't matter here. I don't care what some dead
jew said. I'm talking about a different dead Jew and
what they said.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
The thing is is like I recognize that some of
these people are used to being put in a position
where like motherfuckers are going to try to gotcha, you
know what I mean, And like I don't operate that way.
I don't have a history of walking anybody into a
trap or anything like that. Literally hasn't happened, never done
it once. Uh. And so it's weird because all I

(01:07:04):
do is set out to have a genuine interaction with somebody.
And when I'm when I'm meeting like debate tactics, I'm like,
this is autopilot shit, this is a routine that you've
worked at and developed. This isn't genuine. This is how
you navigate people who are trying to like, you know,
catch you in some salacious moment, not my fucking mo o,
trying to have a conversation about God with you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
I really want to know, like the I want to
know how you think? Like he just wasn't understanding. I
was like, how do you how does God mix with
this idea of liberty? Because when you look at the
libertarian movement and what it is and what it's become, especially,
you go, how did this thing fail so badly? And
it's like because it I call it, some people call

(01:07:45):
it satanism?

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Uh what do is say? Not not walk us until
a trap?

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
What was the pick about an hour ago? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
No, we asked you if you wanted to see that.
I said one, two, three, which means yes, that's true.
You've consented technically.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Canci I believe you? You typed in one? I remember that?
Yeah you did? You pull up the receipts, baby boy.
So with Dave.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
And the idea of like liberty or the libertarianism and
what like the fruit that it's bore, we were asking
like how these two things coincide because, as I was saying,
some people call libertarianism like close to satanism or even yeah,
close to Crowley is in Crowley like Crawley's ideology, do

(01:08:31):
as I will, and it does. It does, But it
also is very close to the Christian ethos. Is there's
a thing here. There's this small lynchpin where I think
if you put like God right in the center of libertarianism,
it would make a lot of sense. But they have
removed it completely and thrown it away because they're like, oh,
no authority, no rulers, no leaders. It's like, okay, but

(01:08:52):
there is, and you're going to have to choose one.
So you've chosen none, which means you've chosen everything else
but God. That's the reality of it. And then you
see what it gets you. You get a gay dude
and a cop as your presidential candidate. You get a
bunch of people with jean jackets and pins on. They smell,
they can't brush their teeth, they're all autistic, and they're

(01:09:13):
it's they're they're largely confused. So the question that I
was asking Dave in that interview or like that, we
were trying to get what I was trying to get it.
I don't know exactly what you were trying to ask him,
but I was like, why if this, like this integral
part is right here and you believe in it, why
do you shy away from it so much? I know

(01:09:34):
it's not going to be popular, but the reality is
there's a bunch of young men and women in this
movement here that are completely lost.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
You've seen it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:44):
He's traveled the country and seen all the everything that
they have to offer. You go to the national convention
and you're like, geez, man, this is pathetic and people
need God. People need they need God in there. But like,
if you went in there and you started to like
preach God, it would be like an exorcism. But the

(01:10:07):
thing I do like what I like about Dave though,
is that he does a thing where like when I
look at him and I see him talk and I
see how he behaves, he is a He's exemplifying God,
in my opinion, in his actions, how he behaves, with
his marriage with his children, with the way he carries himself.
I'm like, yeah, that's like, these are all of the

(01:10:30):
qualities that somebody who believes in God would present with.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
But again, I'm not being like, go out there and
preach the gospel, Dave.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
But I was just trying to have a conversation about like,
I think this is important to put here, and I
think that he is doing it the same way I
told I told Clint a long time ago. He was like,
I don't believe in God, and I was like, but
you act as if you do. He's like, I don't
know what that means. And I was like, well, look
at when you walk around, you act as if you
do believe in God, that there is a higher power.
You're put together eating examples for like the Greater Good.

(01:11:02):
Now there is there's like a difference between acting like
you believe in God and then actively believing in God,
because I feel like you take the next love the
next step there, and then the next step also is
like just telling people like, you know, I believe in God.
I think that that's really important in this in this
puzzle that we're trying to put together. And I feel
like that that's what I was trying to express to Dave.

(01:11:22):
We had some like communication issues with like my microphone
at the time for whatever reason, you'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Oh yeah, it was bucking you out, which which meant
that they couldn't hear you when you were trying to
like interject or even start a point. The whole thing
was frustrating in that way. And I don't know. I mean,
I definitely hear what you're saying, and it just my
question was a really simple one, which was, and I
understand why he can't do it, if he if he

(01:11:48):
can't do it, But my question was more along the
lines of, like, if you've seen this things, yeah, yeah,
if you've seen it, why aren't you moving towards it?
And I know, if you, especially Smith, you think about it,
he comes from a comedy and a politics place, right,
that's his place, and.

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
He was an atheistic Brooklyn kid that had a Jewish mother,
not raised Jewish, but atheistic in the in the left
wing New York City comedy crowd.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
So I get it. But hey man, that's what I'm saying,
is like I think that is, and I think that's
why I ran out. Look, I'm not trying to psychoanalyze
Dave Smith, but part of me feels like that's why
I ran into that weird fucking labyrinth of debate speak,
which wasn't very extensive. It's not like he did this
to me over and over again. It happened probably like
a good three times whatever, but it was like it

(01:12:42):
was like a stopper in the momentum of the conversation,
and I felt as though it was a defense mechanism
instead of like an actual intrigue and exploration of a topic.
It was like, for some reason a shield was going
up at the mention of it. And I think that
that shield probably exists because of comedy, New York City, atheism,
left leaning politics all that. A little bit, I.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
Feel like though, because he's he's I know, he's disgusted
with Louis and Lewis's like, you know, Lewis's I don't
know what he believes, but he's just not He doesn't
even want to entertain that. He doesn't like to entertain
the politics, doesn't like to entertain the religious. He's very
happy in his little bubble. And that's fine, you know,
but when you step into the political realm and you're
trying to do this like changing of humanity kind of thing,

(01:13:27):
you're gonna have to deal with these issues. So like
Lewis if like, when I talk to him, I'm like,
why would I ever bring that up with him? We're
not talking about We're talking about dick jokes, you know
what I mean. We'll keep it contextual there. But with Dave,
when you're talking about this bigger picture.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Then you have to mention this.

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
And I feel like the idea what we were talking about,
this idea of not necessarily religion, but like spirituality, it
goes hand in hand with liberty, but it sweeps the
leg of the libertarian movement. So to address it, like
to address your question head on, would mean that he
would have to then in some ways he would have

(01:14:03):
to like not renounce, but like step back from some
of these ideas, these libertarian ideas, which are part of
his personality, and he holds a lot of conviction with
which I again, I think a lot of his libert
the libertarian ideas are are possible within the realm of
believing in God. Well maybe not like you know, uh,

(01:14:26):
like like having like you know, it's okay if we're gay,
you know, and shit like that. It's like it's not
there has to be some sort of moral boundaries.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
Yeah, it should be like you know, there it's kind
of leading with the spirit of like rebellion and liberation,
which is understandable. Rebel and liberate yourself from mankind, I suppose,
but there has to be an authority, and that authority
is God, and if you don't reel it in at
the appropriate time, then it just becomes, you know what,
liberate me from all things God's order and man's order,

(01:14:56):
but even the man's order. Things like I'm realizing that
God does place in the position not only powers and principalities,
but also kings. And so you know, I'm not saying
that that's what is happening now. I don't know if
that's what the president is, but I know that there's
a history of that happening, and so maybe we should

(01:15:17):
make it rebel and liberate yourself against everyone who's not
you know, walking in the in the word of God,
you know what I mean? Like, like that should probably
be a good marker is if somebody claims to be
anointed in one way or another, well then you observe them,
and if they are leading with God, then maybe you're
not forced to rebel against everybody. Because I have that

(01:15:39):
in me. I used to, you know, school was really
hard for me because I couldn't have fucking like authority
figures telling me what to do. And so I've always
had that like spirit of rebellion. But I recognize that
that's you know, the rebellion, the angels rebelling against God,
or even the whole don't tread on me thing, and

(01:15:59):
it's a snake. And then it's like Jesus Christ gave
us the authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, but
for some reason, don't tread on me as part of
this conversation, and then even the torch, the symbol of
libertarian values, is like, well that's huge, right, the Promethean flame,
the fucking the mithras or Lucifer the light Bearer or

(01:16:19):
any of these things, like all those together they start
to make something really weird. And then, like you said before,
it's like libertarians lead with you know, do whatever you
want as long as you're not hurting anybody and you're
not hurting children.

Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
Yeah, the non aggression principles similar to do without wilth
shall be the whole of the law. And even in
like Crowleianism, they're talking about like, you know, but don't
hurt people, like don't yeah, they don't steal their shit,
like be ethical, but do without will and it's like yeah, no, no, halfway,
I agree with you, like don't hurt people, don't take
their shit, But there's a lot of other stuff with

(01:16:51):
what thou wilt, you know, like you're performing anal sex
portal magic in low and the Lower East Side of Manhattan,
like just below a copper statue of fucking you know,
Lucifer the Rebellion holding a torch. I just don't think
that this is good for the greater good of people.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
But this is you know, that's another conversation. Y, yes, really,
because it's it's packaged as a lot of good things.
It's only when you expand those values into the macro
because they work really well in the micro, right, you know,
as far as like small government and not allowing the
federal government to do this, and you know whatno, like
everything in the micro works. But as soon as you
enter the macro and you start talking about God, that's

(01:17:32):
a yeah, there you go. J C says. Some libertarians
believe in consenting children, right, so there has be a
line like like when when I was in libertarianism, that
was the line was like, oh, well, there's like some
you know, some libertarians are like clear headed and they
really know what they're talking about, and other ones are
talking about child consent laws and it's like, yes, certainly
there's levels, but that's you're going to get that when

(01:17:53):
you're given free will. And I'd like again, so liberty libertarianism,
I think where it's where it's great is the ability
of tell well, the ability to give people their agency
and free will. You know, I do like to do
what thou will, but then it needs to come with
a lot of caveats. It's like, but if you do that,
what point?

Speaker 4 (01:18:12):
Yeah, I'm saying like, no, no, no, do what you
want to do, but these are the repercussions of your actions, Like,
this is what you're gonna get. And as a matter
of fact, if you're gonna go do that gay stuff,
you're not welcoming my society. This is like a Hans
Herman Hoppas sort of an idea where libertarianism does work.
But it's like there's gonna be strict boundaries and rule sets,
like even God, even God allowed.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Us to do what we will.

Speaker 4 (01:18:35):
Yeah, he allowed us, Like and that's the point of
this whole thing, right, Like you have to choose him,
can't force you. But it's like, if you're presenting this
to people and you're telling like largely autistic people, a
group of autistic young men and some woman that you know,
do whatever you want, just don't hurt people like well
where they they're retarded man like, we've seen these people

(01:18:56):
like they're gonna take that to the maximum, and it's
not going to create any thing good. There's got to
be moral boundaries. And it's not popular with a lot
of the people. With the the lady with pink hair
and the statue of Liberty on her head that's screaming
about whatever it's it's not going to be popular with her.
It's not going to be popular with the gay snaggletude
dude that won the election. It's not going to be

(01:19:17):
popular with the retarded cop or the guy that's walking
through the forest yelling at himself before.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
If you don't go in that direction, then that right,
there are those things you just described are the fruits
of your party. Yeah, and that's what That's kind of
what I was getting at with him. But it's I
think if you if if you were to address it exactly,
it's not a it's there's.

Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
No way to win that argument. But you're getting into
like this moral philosophy as well.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
It was it's very philosophical yet then and it's not
like there would have been an answer. That's a conversation
I would have actually liked to have had with him.
I'm not saying I didn't enjoy the conversation, you know,
honored that he would spend any time talking to us,
and he is somebody who I really.

Speaker 4 (01:19:54):
Enjoy the fruits of the party, right literally literally it
was a great conversation, even though like because again, so
my microphone was ducking so whenever they were talking, I
was underneath them and I'm talking but no one could
hear me.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
And it's like, yeah, very frustrating.

Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
There was a technical issue, but uh, I just I
wish that I would have been able to guide the
conversation more because like we got stuck a bunch of times,
you and Dave got stuck because and that was a
beautiful part too, Dave, like you were like, I don't
really give a fuck about Dave Smith because I'm not,
like I didn't come up in this space. I understand
the respect that he has, but like whatever, and that's

(01:20:28):
you need that when you're talking with somebody of Dave's size,
you you definitely need that I don't give a fuck
kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
And I know it was it was it was less
of the I don't give a fuck and more of
I'm genuinely interested in what you think on this topic,
but we can't get past this. And so my job
then is to refine my question and figure out how
to slip it in a different way. If you're not
going to answer it because of this aspect that I've
got to refine, it's got to go back to the

(01:20:55):
drawing board, and I've got to spit it back out
to you in a way that hopefully resonates with you.
And so if I came off as not giving a fuck,
it was more like I am in this for the
love of truth. I don't really care about individuals, and
I you know, obviously I respect people and I'm grateful
for their time and things like that. But if I
give a shit at all about Dave Smith, it's because
I think his brain works well and I would love

(01:21:16):
to see what he thinks about this if I presented
to him. And for whatever reason, probably for the first
time in my life certainly not the last, I was
unable to package this in a way that was palatable
for the person, so they were gonna receive it, you know,
chew on it, and then fucking give me back something cool.
It just wasn't happening. He was going, Nope, I reject
that dish. That is a disgusting dish. I'll not have

(01:21:37):
anything like I've prepared this pretty strenuously, but back to
the kitchen, I'll refine it, we'll spit it out again.
And it just fucking wouldn't happen. It.

Speaker 4 (01:21:44):
It was a conversation that I would have. I think
we would have gotten a lot more out of and
I would much rather have in private, not recorded. Literally,
what do you think? You have a very huge following,
You're super influential. He was influential, and a lot of
my thought coming up as well, even though like I
guess is yeah, as I would just got into it.
He was kind of like coming up in the space

(01:22:06):
as well, so like very influential what I think. But
I was like, I want to know what you think,
Like I don't necessarily I don't even listen to the
show anymore, I really do. I'm curious and if it,
like if that can't be recorded, because it's like, you know,
private position, public position, fine, but what.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
The hell do you like? Where are you at?

Speaker 4 (01:22:21):
So I know your heart and I know when you're like,
when you're saying something, I know how to translate it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
You know what I mean. I know where it's coming from,
because it's like, you know what I want to hear
and if I would have loved to have gotten here,
Dave Smith, You've been looking at politics so closely for
so long. Where does your mind go when you find
out about child sex trafficking rings that are steeped in
a cult esoteric symbolism and ceremony. What does your mind

(01:22:54):
think when you hear about the laptop leaks and the
weird shit that they supposedly found in Iraq and all
of this strange artwork in the Podesta's homes? Like where
does your mind go? But like it's just in my opinion,
if you go there and you start having that conversation,

(01:23:15):
especially with people that you don't know and trust that intimately,
you run the risk of fucking up this other shit
that you've established for yourself because you have to maintain
an air of seriousness if you're going to talk about politics,
an air of seriousness, if you're gonna it's kind of funny.

Speaker 4 (01:23:30):
Right, because like politics fight, so the money's fake. Politics
are gay and then all theater. Everybody's playing pretend, but
you have to be very serious when you play pretend.
And what's considered unserious is talking about God and like
the metaphysical realm, which certainly exists, and I like where
every people are becoming well a lot more aware of it.
But you know, that's just something that I feel like

(01:23:51):
is gonna come as time goes by. But I'm glad
that we got to have the conversation with Dave about that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
In a lot of way back one day. Yeah, maybe
maybe not, I mean probably fucking what's his name? After
that he was like, no, I'm not gonna be coming
back Phil, Phil.

Speaker 4 (01:24:07):
He told you, imagine having that conversation with Phil a bonte.
It would go nowhere, just the retard, empty, empty space.
But the conversation we had with Dave was a lot
like the one that he had with Douglas Murray. But
I feel like our shit was like, we're dealing with
an even more important question than just like just this
genocide and the idea of whatever Israel is and you know,

(01:24:30):
the Jews, which is what they were talking about. We're
dealing with the concept of God and the concept of
free will. Yeah, And it was like it was like
very much like just butting heads. We were talking around
and over each other, and I was a little frustrated
by the conversation, by the technology not working, just by
how the conversation went. I think Dave was frustrated by

(01:24:52):
how his conversation went with Douglas Murray, because the guy,
Douglas Murray, no matter what you think about him, he's
a smart dude. And it wasn't even a debate. It
wasn't he even a conversation. It was just the guy
was just dancing. The guy was doing like ad homin
and attacks on him. He was just you know, doing
like weird equations, like like referring to the experts.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
It's like it was not you know how I want
to remember Dave Smith not from this episode because he
didn't know what he was getting into, and it's all
that jarring. He doesn't know us anything. He doesn't know
me at all.

Speaker 4 (01:25:23):
That's the thing that was Like if I would have
told him, I should have told him like like come
here for a debate, you know, so that way, because
I but I don't want to debate you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
And Dave's not going to use those sort of tactics.
Most of the time.

Speaker 4 (01:25:34):
But if I think if we would have prepared him, like, hey,
this might be a little bit like this is a
hard conversation. I'm not going to have you on, like
who's Dave Smith told us about? No, No, that's retarded.
Everybody knows you, Like we're I want to talk about
something unique, and I just I don't think that he
was prepared to address it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
So it what it is. This was after and this
was what I was getting at the version of Dave
Smith that I want to remember. I'm pretty sure this
podcast that we did with him was after he destroyed
Quomo over the Lockdown era, and it was incredible. I mean,
a lot of it was shit that should have been
said to Quomo a long time ago, should have been
out on the world. But Dave Smith was the guy

(01:26:14):
who as soon as the smoke settled, you know, I
guess this was almost a year ago as well, or
a little bit over a year ago, and we finally
got some reckoning. We finally got somebody to hold accountable,
and obviously, you know, there needs to be more done.
But having I think it was Anthony Cuomo on stage
with Chris Cuomo, there we go. Chris Cuomo on stage

(01:26:36):
with Dave Smith debating the lockdown era and Dave Smith
being like you and your core cohorts said, X, Y
and Z, you said that two weeks to flatten the curve,
you said that it was one hundred percent effective. You
said all these things, and he goes, I never said
those things. And Dave turns and goes, play the tip, what,

(01:26:57):
oh my god, I mean? And then just in his
own fucking face, out of his own you know, in
his own words, Chris Cuomo says exactly what he denied
having said.

Speaker 6 (01:27:07):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
And it was so plain to see for anybody who
was watching that. I live streamed that entire conversation, and
it was it was. It was great. So that's a
Dave Smith that I want to remember. And I don't
regretge him at all. I know he was in a
strange position with us. It was different. It's not something
he hasn't cut him to.

Speaker 4 (01:27:24):
So that's the thing Dave Smith is is so great.
I think he's great almost on everything pretty much. He asked,
but why would I want to have a conversation about
something like I have you on? And I just go
I agree, like that's retarded. I want to have an
actual conversation with you about something that maybe necess we
don't necessarily agree, maybe even on wrong maybe I'm missing something.

(01:27:45):
But it didn't get I don't think it got there adequately,
which is fine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
We didn't get that far.

Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
No, maybe that's our fault, but I thought it was
fun and Dave's fucking champ for spending the time with us. So,
without further ado, here's the episode with Dave Smith. This
TRANSI transition music and then we play the intro.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
There's that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:05):
There we go, all right, what did you guys think about?

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
That? Was that fun? Did you enjoy that? Yeah? We're talking.
We're talking to the chat now, Yeah, we're talking to
the chat was as good as you guys. I see
a lot of people are confused about what they just saw.
They're like, what is this? Why are we? Uh? Why
why are we sitting here? Can I leave? Can I
Can I exit the browser? No, you guys are probably
wondering why we gathered you here. No, we have another

(01:28:27):
two minutes before you can leave, So everybody, sit, sit down,
shirt the phone violence for the next one hundred and
twenty seconds.

Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
I'm gonna count my things here. I lost one of these.
I flip through these every time we do a podcast.
Had five, now I have four. I don't know what happened.
Look at that's a retata.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
Isn't that nice? Oh yeah? Oh hold on, isn't that nice?

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
They are actually asking for something?

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
What are they asking for? Was that good? That felt good?
One take, baby, one take. I don't whatever portion of
the audience has never seen Timeline cleanse, which I think
at that point quite a few of these people. I
don't know if this will go up, but Nancy did. So.

Speaker 4 (01:29:10):
Nancy has been messaging me and she said, oh no,
I can't play this, I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
Here, but she's sending you death videos.

Speaker 5 (01:29:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
She was like, by the way, she goes, uh, I
organized all the submissions, gave them titles, ratings, and if
there were words that you guys don't understand, I put
some definitions and I was like, thank you, that's amazing.
And then she just, unprompted, sends me a video of
somebody getting their head cut off.

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
Dude, she's the greatest dull knife and she goes, I
think Nancy is in uh on the West coast, but
if there were, you know, there's a couple of people
that I would hire if we had the chance, like
if we had disposable incoming, it was time to hire help.
Laney would definitely be one of them. Nancy. I would
like to hire Nancy Scott as well. I also want

(01:29:59):
to hire Jim. I don't know what I want her
to do, but I just want her around. Just be old,
just be old over there. Yeah, and and j C too.
I would hire j C. He could just be a
door greeter. J H Oh my god, oh my god, Hi,
when you walk into I want every time I walk
into the studio, Jac just because oh my god, Hi

(01:30:19):
my god, you're back. I did god. Hi, Yeah dude,
oh yeah, aimin Rat. We got to hire Aim and
Rat too. I like him. A Rat's the ship perfect man.
All right, what else are we doing? We have anything
else to do? I got sneeze. I think that's it.
I think we're done. Don't sneeze. I need the light
to do it.

Speaker 6 (01:30:41):
He's as in the corner of the rooms, wants to.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
Say. He goes to trust the peach blast time and
they hatch h

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