Scofield and Circumcision - Book of Genesis w/ Ed Mabrie - Nephilim Death Squad

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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. To another episode of Nephlim
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Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
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what's sort of value to bring his Patreon member here
you go, and maybe there's an idea if they sign
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I will do that.

Speaker 6 (02:09):
You know what, Yeah, you can call me popaye, he
can call me you know what's the old What's what's
that that's saying? Is like, you know someone said that
people who it was? It was? It was a political thing,
like doing the Obama era. You know when everyone thought
that Obama liked him because he seemed like such a
cool god. People who like Obama like people go to
a strip club and think the stripper likes him because

(02:31):
they call him poppy.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Exactly exactly, It's very much the same thing. But well,
I guess if you do it at you get to
call him. He'd figured it out. You get to call
him poppy. And I guess maybe, Mommy, we have to
call our patrons. Apparently there's one guy out there that
we have to call daddy. Thank god, we haven't run
and hasn't redeemed it yet. He hasn't redeemed it. H
I'm waiting. That's actually a surprise to me. We're just
gonna get a knock on the door one day.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Paper and he's like, you see, I'm here.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
To make good.

Speaker 6 (03:00):
I'll come up with with the poppy tear you have
to if you if you pay a certain amount, I
will call you poppy.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
I'm gonna sign up for uh. And it's been a while,
it's always were just too often there's a long stretch.
I know you've been out and you've been about and
it's good to have you back. Your people have been
asking where is ED and so here here he is. Guys,
we brought itim. We actually had a guy just today
say hey, I really miss the ED maybe episodes, and
we didn't say anything to him, and then like a

(03:28):
couple of hours later he was like, oh my god,
it's happening because he got the notification that you were coming.
So that guy is crushing today.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
All these guys are super schizophrenic, so they're like, they're like,
I spoke it in two existence.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
It's like, oh, planed it schedule, it was gonna happen already.
But you know, sure, whatever your quotes are.

Speaker 6 (03:45):
Yeah, well the main reason, well, the main reason I've
been out of commissioned. Some of my patrons know this
is because my mom had surgery recently, so I had
to go down to take care of her and a
lot of just a lot of stuff happening. I mean,
if he you know my mom, she's she's older, you know,
she's you know getting you know, getting into the stage
of life where you know it's time to started doing
the state planning and stuff like that. And for those

(04:07):
of you who have gone through that, you know that
your relatives can become the biggest a holes on earth.
And it was just stunning what I've had to deal
with the last four weeks, you know, with helping her out,
doing with my relatives who just completely lost their minds,
and it's it's a whole thing. But that's why I
have not been available, and even you know, my content

(04:27):
has kind of dropped a bit on my channel, but
I'm getting it back up and there's some new things
that I'm doing that I actually notify my patrons up
this morning. But yeah, I'm I'm getting I'm back in
the saddle.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Well, ladies and gentlemen, I hate to break to you,
there are more important things than filling your content holes,
and Ed Mabray has been addressing those more important things.
How is Mama Maybray doing from the the the surgery.

Speaker 6 (04:50):
She's doing much better, which is why I'm back home now.
You know, it wasn't it wasn't major major surgery, but
but at her age, every surgery is major surgery, and
so exactly a lot of painting things like that, and
she just wouldn't rest. My mother's a busybody. She's supposed
to rest, and every time I look up, she was
in the kitchen washing dishes. I'm like, I'm here to
do that stuff. Get back in the bed, and she said, well,

(05:11):
I'm just not used to being laid out. How old
is she d she's eighty four.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
She reminds me of my boiler because I had I
had a grandma that's more eighty three.

Speaker 6 (05:21):
I'm sorry, eighty three.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Eighty three, that's still man, that's still what. Let her
hear you say, eighty four.

Speaker 6 (05:28):
Older.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
My grandma was the same way, man, and my dad
was very much like you were. He was always there
helping her out, and it took a toll on him.
I mean, my dad aged. He was a forty something
maybe fifty at the time, and he didn't look at
he looked thirty. But by the time those six seven
years had passed of him taken care of her, he
was He's gray out and he aged. But I think

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it's a blessing though. I think, like I look at him,
and I look at what he did for her there
and now like I moved them onto the property with me,
or you know, they moved with me, and I'm paying
it back because I saw what he did for his mom,
and I'm like, you know, what. I'm not going to
have my mom my parents go through this, this this

(06:12):
end of life stuff alone and they have to come
and deal with my bullshit.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
So yeah, you're doing You're doing the right thing.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
Man.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
It's hard, but you.

Speaker 6 (06:19):
Know, and the toe part is we'll get to the
actual content in a minute. But the toughest thing for
me is that, you know, I don't live near her.
You know, I'm in northern California. She's in southern California.
I mean it's an hour flight but and it's you know,
four or five or six hour drive. But you know,
I've got my family up here that I had, that
I'm with and so I'm only down there occasionally. And

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there's people people try to take advantage of old people.
I mean, I've had to go through like all of
her stuff, and like her gardener's not doing what landscapeer
is not doing what he's supposed to be doing. Roofers,
come on, they're supposed to be doing work. I get
up to them, like, you guys haven't done anything. What
the hell are you charging her? So it's just a
lot of stuff and I wish I was closer. I wish,
And she won't move up here. I mean, you've got
your folks on your own your property. We've been trying

(07:02):
to get my mother to move up with us, and
she's like, no, this is my house. I've lived here
for fifty years. I don't want to leave. So what
do you do?

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, I got an aunt that's very much the same
way where she has. She's trying to juggle two properties.
And she's up there in age, she's in her seventies,
and she grew up in one of those properties, and
so and then the other one was kind of her
first home that she bought. And now she's just sitting
here trying to juggle them. Bowl she doesn't want to
get rid of them. And you know, it's I understand.
Places can mean a lot. You raise families and you know,

(07:32):
so I understand, but it's a it's a shame. Maybe
maybe who knows, maybe she'll get a little bit tired
of keeping the other place up and she'll come and
hang out with you.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
Don't care to bring a little yappy dog with her.
I have to. I can't stand that.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Mundy.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
At the at the end of the episode, we'll have
to split some of this money with you. We have
a fifty dollars super chat. We had an twenty dollars
just before Philippians four to four rejoicing the Lord always
and uh sorry always and again I say rejoice. And
another the twenty dollars from Scott. This one's for the
cam Main camera fund. But we have the camera set up.
Are they trying to say it looks bad? I think
it looks good. We finally dialed it in.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
We just had some technical difficulties, but thank you Scott.

Speaker 6 (08:10):
And yeah, and it's the first ti I've seen you
guys in the studio together, so I'm obviously changes are
happening that I missed out on when I was on
my my, my, my sabbatical.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, well I didn't want to, but yeah, Top got
a hair up his butt and decided that it was
it was time for the studio when and he took
at its sprinting. So, I mean, you know, you weren't
gone for a super long time, but it feels like
it right because we're in this whole new environment.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
But we just have technically the same room. Wherever you
were talking to me, wherever I was, I was, I
was facing this way. Right now we've changed, We've changed
it all and Uh, this is set up we're going with.
So Dave moved a lot closer to me, and we've
been doing this thing for a couple of months where
we're still doing like a virtual meeting.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Even though I'm eight way. So I'm just like, just
come over, yeah, yeah, build it. Well, there we go.
We built it and and it looks good and it's
sort of functioning for now. Uh, you know, not bad
for a couple of retards. But I you know, ed,
I remember what we were talking. You remember what we
were gonna talk about scifically, Yes, we were gonna we
were going to talk about Foreskin.

Speaker 6 (09:16):
I didn't forget.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
It's been hanging out, but it's in the back of
his mind this entire time.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
No, because I mean that was my last thing. You know,
you guys have been doing a ton of shows since then.
I've done very little. So like one of the last
one of the last podcasts I was on was with
you guys. So of course I remember that, okay, And
I've got to come up with Scorefield Bible stuff and
Foreskin stuff circumstansis.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
I'm looking forward, man, What a banger? We really just
keep serving up bangers to the audience. The Schofield Bible
and and foreskins. I mean, I mean really really one
of the same. That's the same thing. So okay, all right,
I don't know if you wanna, because you know, there's
a hierarchy of things. Are we saving one for dessert

(09:57):
and we're we're going with the main course first? Which
one do you want to start with?

Speaker 6 (10:00):
Well, let me start really quick with with like a
quick announcement that I made for my patrons. Oh yes,
where they find you can talk about that. Yeah. So
main main site, the legacy side, is faith by Reason
dot net. You you send the scroll bar below and
for patroons, which is where I'm steering everyone because that's
where you know, that's where the action is. That's where
you can interact with me. And I'm much more active

(10:21):
there and that is Yeah, so that's Faith by Reason
dot Net. Actually haven't even put up my last Genesis
my latest Genesis series piece up there, so yeah, that's
I got to update that. I'm actually been doing some
things on that. And then just here's my Patreon and
if you actually scroll down you'll see what I just
posted an announcement. It's about the Revelation series is going

(10:42):
to be exclusively for members. It's going behind a paywall.
All the stuff that was that I was free on
YouTube sixty out sixty episodes more than sixty hours or
the stuff it's is going to only be available for
patroons and for members of Faith by Reason dot net.
And and the pad is twofold. Number one. Netflix has

(11:03):
just been Netflix, excuse me? YouTube New YouTube has just
been like, not very kind to me. They I'm not
getting the views I'm supposed to be getting more people,
they're more comments. Sometimes in my comments section there are
than there are views, meaning I'm getting shadow band. I've
got a couple of strikes against me. A lot of
myself's been demonetized. Some of my more popular videos, you know,

(11:26):
are demonetized for reasons I don't even understand, because I'm
not doing any kind of profanity.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Strikes for what did you get?

Speaker 6 (11:33):
Strikes for medical misinformation because I had the audacity of
saying that a certain injection would have an effect on
your DNA, which is exactly what the literature in.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
That's the thing, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (11:48):
Yeah? Right? And and I was thought I was giving
medical information and it happened twice. And I still have
two strikes against me there, and yeah, being demonetized and
stuff like you know what, well, the hell with with
with with YouTube? And why why am I? Why am I?
You guys are running commercials on my stuff and you're
getting money, but I'm not because you demonetized some of
my stuff. So I'm why why am I giving it

(12:09):
to you for free? If people want it and if
they see the value. And that's the second thing. I mean,
this is a lot of work. You guys know this.
You know, doing all this stuff is not easy and
it's time consuming, and if there's value in it, so
I want to give it to the people who actually
giving me value in return. So you know, my patrons
there are kind enough and to give me the value
and they're getting something in return. So I'm just gonna

(12:31):
make it available to them and to members, and you know,
they'll be teasers on YouTube and on rumble. But and
if you want to get the whole serious, and you've
you've got to come to to one of the paid tiers.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, I mean, it's I get it. You got to
move away from these it's you want to talk. It's
like a parasitic relationship. Like you said, they're putting ads
on your content, but you're not getting paid for it.
It's like, man, how much worse could it really get?

Speaker 6 (12:54):
There? Exactly? So that's so there'll still be stuff on YouTube,
but you know, the main stuff that I'm putting a
lot of work into. I'll probably do the same with
the Genesis series. Just make that exclusive for people who
who you know, are who see the value and are
willing to you know, to give resources in return. And
I've got, you know, my patron is growing. I really
appreciate it, and I want to make sure that the

(13:15):
people who are supporting me are getting the value and
not people who are you know, who aren't succording me.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
So that's one more time patreon dot com backslash faith
by reason correct. Yes, there you go, all right, another
ten dollars super chat ed YouTube. It is over over
YouTube the harder. Yeah, yeah, mock the knock you to
do it harder.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
I wasn't even mocking it, but yeah. Anyway, that's the.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Thing is like the game that we're playing with this,
like we're very careful. I put a lot of work
into censoring anything that might trigger whatever, just so that
we can get seen by a bigger audience.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
And it's you know, it's the work that I've got
to do. It's a real dance. It's a real dance. Yeah,
And people get upset. They'll look at our YouTube and
they'll go, oh what, this is a censored version. All
these words are are bleeped out, and it's like this
is the only version that can exist. There could be
no version exists, which is like, you know, very close
to we got We almost had that. We had two
strikes that we almost got the whole channel, you know, nukes.

(14:15):
So it's this or nothing, guys. And if you want
to support you know, YouTube, which I understand if it's
a great place for cat videos and such and also instructionals.
Half the stuff I know how to fix on my
cars because of YouTube, I get it. But if you
want to support that model, this is what you're gonna get.
And otherwise Patreon is the place to be until even
even us we're looking for a way one day to
get off of Patreon because even they can pull the

(14:38):
rug out with you. But we were promised Foreskins. We
were promised the schofield. And so I am I'm very
interested in uh in watching you you navigate this. What
are we gonna how are we gonna do this, ed, why.

Speaker 6 (14:51):
Don't we start with with the Schofield part? And I
think that might actually lead to back to Genesis where
the circumcision was was institute and that sort of thing.
So the Schoolfield Bible is extremely It's very much in
the news right now. It's in it's in the public zeitgeist,
and so there's a lot of a lot of mythology

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around it. You know, some truth or some things that
are not so true, and people are just saying a
lot of things about it that you know isn't really
true what they're saying. So essentially what you hear, let's
strong with with with the myths about it, the things
that aren't true. And here, by the way, I'm not
here to promote the Schoolfield Bible at all. I'm not
saying that. But what I want to just be be

(15:33):
objective and say what is this really about? So the
some of the myths around that the Schoolfield Bible that
see I school Field Cyrus. I Schoolfield essentially rewrote a
or wrote a version of the Bible that weaved in
basically Zionist propaganda and some Zionism, yeah, Zionism and dispensationalism

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and very pro Israel ideas, and that is just sensationalism
affected or was affected by John Darby who was famous
for his takes on the Rapture and things like that.
So and that maybe Scholfield was funded by the Rothschilds
when Israel was in the was on the what was

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about to be established, and in order to get Christian
Protestant Christians on the side of Israel and things like that.
So there are some things about that that just are
are blatantly false. One of them is that Schofield rewrote
the Bible. No, the Scholfield Bible, as it were, is
a King James version of the Bible that has study notes.

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So what we see I Scholfield did is he published
a Bible, and he had extensive study notes that were
embedded in the Bible. So you'd have the top half
of a page would have the verses from the King James.
Then the bottom half would be Scholfield's notes about what
he thought these what he felt these things meant, how

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they tied to other verses. For example, he'd have something
about creation, you know, Genesis chapter one, then he'd refer
to you know, Genesis excuse the creation narrative that talked
about in Job and maybe in Colossians what talks about
how you Jesus brought everything together and he holds all
these things together. What he was doing was doing a commentary.

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So it's not true that he rewrote the Bible. It
is true that he made a commentary about it, but
it is also true that it had a more pro
israel stance. And the Bible was originally his version, his
scope filled Bible. His nose was written in I think
was nineteen o nine, and the thing was revised to
in nineteen seventeen, and it became very popular because it

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was one of the very few Bibles that had a
commentary built into it. Most of the Bibles were just
you know, the scripture and then you'd have to get
by another commentary, so you have to be referencing two
books back and forth. So this was more convenient for
people who were studying Bible. You have his notes right there.
So again it became extremely popular, especially around that time
because that's when World War One started, you know, a

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couple of years after his revised version, then World War
II happened, so people were you know, these are huge wars,
people in crisis start turning back to the Bible and
to God. And here is this popular Bible that is
basically an all in one. So the good news about
it was that, you know, people were studying the Bible more.
The controversial aspect was see I school Field's notes, because again,

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the Bible is inspired by God. Commentaries are not. And
you know, what Scholfield was doing is similar to what
I do. I do commentary. I do my commentary on
the Book of Revelation. I'm doing commentary on the Book
of Genesis. But I'm not perfect. My words are not
from God. They are my words, and you and you know,
I like, I love that people are embracing it and

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they're getting something from what from my teachings, which is great.
But I could be wrong on certain things, which is
why I encourage books always to study for yourself, you know, take.

Speaker 7 (18:59):
What I need.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Within his his commentary that seemed subversive. I mean, I
understand that there was this pro Israel vent, but is
that was that just an honest take of his or
or was you know, does it reek of some sort
of subversion?

Speaker 6 (19:14):
Well that's what people believe because it here's and this
is where we'll get back to Genesis.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
The main area that he popularized that affects the way
the Protestant Church is fault about Israel was the Abraham
and Covenant, where Godly believe it starts in Genesis chapter twelve,
where God calls Abraham. He said, you know, he calls
him and says, come out of your land, and I
will I will take you paraphrasing to a land that

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I will show you, and I'll make a great nation
out of you, and you will, you know, will you
will bless the earth and your through your descendants. You know,
the earth will be blessed through your through your progeny.
And I will bless them that bless you, and I
will curse them that curse you. And Scholfield's notes about
that basically said that that is referring to Israel, to

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the Jewish people, to the Israelites, so that anyone who
blesses them will be blessed, anyone who curses them will
be cursed. And that carries over to any modern Jew Judaism,
not modern Judaism, because the modern Jews modern Israel, and
his commentaries and his Bible became very popular in seminaries,

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so you had an entire generation of a pastors being
trained and using the skull Field Bible as their main
reference source. And so they took that to me, what
we have to bless Israel? And if in blessing and cursing,
look at the definitions of those things. Blessings and cursings
are words. I think we might have talked about this previously.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, that was actually a really great way of looking
at it that I wasn't too sure I understood. But
the way that we defined it on the last episode was,
you know, blessing isn't necessarily support of Israel as a government,
or even support in their military movements, or or even
financial support. But really what it is is, uh, you know,

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saying something like praying, not speaking ill, yet not cursing them.
We're talking about spiritual concepts, right. A blessing would be
that they come to realize that Jesus Christ is the
Messiah and they rectify the direction that they've been taking,
and that that's a sort of blessing, whereas a curse
is like, you know, I hope terrible things happen to them,
and I hope they never realize what they've done exactly

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so and so that is.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
The correct definition of biblical definition of blessing and cursing. Unfortunately,
some folks, And and again is there was there a
nefarious hand behind it? Possibly? I don't know for sure.
Was he was there a rothschild financial incentives given to
some of these seminaries to promote some of these things. Maybe,
But because what I know when I was growing up,

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and the pastor of the church when I was growing up,
he went to he went to Dallas Theological Seminary, which
one which is one of the biggest one. Dallas and
Moody are probably the two most well known seminaries, and
they embraced this idea and he took it to the
blessing meaning that you have to say nothing but positive
things about Israel and you can't say anything wrong about it.
And that has carried over to this day because we

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talked about last time, the Christian Zionists versus the people
the replacement theologists, these these two extremes, and the Christian
Zionists have taken that the words based on what they
read in schoolfield and what they studied, to mean that
you not only can you not say anything bad about Israel,
you have to only say good things about them, otherwise

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you will God will curse you. And they have the
wrong definition of cursing. They think again, like you were
just saying, Raven, that blessing means doing stuff, giving them money,
giving them military aid, growing red Heifer's for them, and
cursing them means you know, the terrorist attacks and things
like that. Now they're words. But when you take something

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and you reinterpret it, which is always the danger of
not studying the Bible. And we've talked about this before.
Reading the Bible versus studying it. Reading it is just
the word. Studying it is looking at it in context,
having the definitions, having a good definition for blessing and cursing.
If you have a poor definition of it, then because
you know, when when we think as Christians, when we

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think of blessing, we think of deeds. You know, I
hope God's bless me, blesses me with us spouse, or
I hope God blesses me with some money.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yeah, bless me with a nice house, blesses me with
a good job, blesses me right, right.

Speaker 6 (23:24):
So that's that's Christianese, but it's not what the Bible says.
And if you take that to Israel, then it could
mean that you have to be completely positive towards them
all the time. So so that's one of the issues
with the skull filled Bible is the Israel part. The
other part is what's called dismissationalism, and that is the

(23:44):
idea that God has had deals, has dealt with the
world through seven specific eras, and He's dealt with them
in those seven different errors in certain ways. Now I
buy into that, Actually I not. I'm not a dismissationalist
per se, because I don't believe everything the dispensation less believe,
But I do believe that during different periods of time
God has dealt with man differently. And we've talked about

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that before as well in the Adam and Eve. He's
not dealing with us the way he dealt with him.
There's no tree of the knowledge of good and evil
that we can or can't eat from, you know. And
then you have the time of Noah. You know, that
was a different period of time and God dealt with
people differently. They had longer lives and they had different rules.
Then you have the era of the Law. God dealt
with the world through Israel and through the Law. Well,

(24:29):
now We're not in that era. He's not dealing with
the world through the law. Now we are not as Christians.
We are not required to obey all the aspects of
the law as as part of our belief system. God's
not going to be upset with you if you eat shellfish,
or if you don't consider your wife ceremonially unclean when
she's on her minstrel cycle. Or we don't have sacrifice

(24:51):
a bull or a goat for our sins. Why because
Jesus fulfilled the law. Jesus was the sacrifice, and you
know the law had other aspects, you know, ceremonial and
civil and all those sorts of things. So we're in
a different era. So yes, we God does deal with
us in a differently in different eras. Right now, God
is dealing with the world through the church. That was
kind of how we ended last time about what should

(25:11):
the stance of the Church be towards Israel. It's like,
let God handle Israel right now. So your job as
a Christian, if you're in a church is to do
what God told the Church to do, which is make
disciples of all nations.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
What is the what are the controversial views of dispensationalism
because I had You know, whenever you bring it up
to somebody, they immediately flinch. But I'm like, man, am
I a dispensationalist because I agree with what ed is
Ed is saying. I mean, you made a compelling case
for God dealing with the people differently throughout the ages,
and certainly with your theory about the speed of light.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
It makes a lot of sense, right right.

Speaker 6 (25:45):
So the controversy is what people read into dispensationalism and
what and how it transforms. It's the example that I
just gave a minute ago about how blessings and cursings
are just worse, but then people say, well, you know, no,
blessings and cursings are deep, and then they make a
whole doctrine based on that. The controversy with dissensationalism, it's

(26:05):
not just that God deals with people in different differently,
in different errors. I don't think you can deny that,
But it's what you put on it and what you
add to it, and then people it becomes a straw
man argument. An example I like to use is when
people you have the left wing people really hated the
Tea Party, okay, and then the right wing people really

(26:26):
hate things like BLM, but they don't actually hate those movements.
They hate what they evolved into. Like the Tea Party
was just started as a grassroots uprising of people saying, hey,
we're being taxed too much and we're not being represented.
It's like that these like you know, the not Civil War,
That revolution is taxation without representation. So it's just a
grassroots movement of people saying we're being we're being taxed

(26:47):
too much. But then it got hijacked by the political
right and became a whole different thing. And then the
left didn't attack the people who were saying we're getting
taxed too much. It's hard attacking all the other ideologies.
Same thing, the Black Lives Matter, It started as a
grassroots movement of people saying, hey, you know, there seems
to be a rash of police killing unarmed black men,

(27:09):
you know, as if our lives don't matter, as if
we were just you know, we can just be killed.
Who cares? And they started protesting that. But then they
got hijacked by the far left and communism and Marxism
and things like that, and then the right only attacked
the communists and Marxists who are heading up the movement,
not the fact that, hey, your people being killed in
the street who you know, whether you believe their criminals

(27:31):
or not, you know, arrest them, take them to jail,
don't just shoot them. So and that's the same thing
happened with dispensationalism. The dispensationalism they seem to focus on
espetology because obviously the dismissations that have happened in the past,
you know, Adam and Eve, Noah, the Law, all those
are in the past, but there's supposed to be you know,
another dispensation, the seventh which is, you know, the tribulation

(27:54):
in the millennium, which haven't happened yet. People focused on that,
So that was a huge focus on eschatology. And then
when you combind that with the idea of you know, Israel,
God's chosen people and they are the ones who who
through whom prophecy is going to be fulfilled through And
that's when you have folks who become the Christian ZIONI
is saying we're going to help bring about the end

(28:15):
times by growing these red heifers, by you know, supporting
Israel and wanting them to be a nation, because in
the end times in the tribulation you have it, there
has to be a temple there. That's where the Antichrist
sets themself up to be worshiped. So in order there
to be a temple, you know, there has to be
an Israel in the land. So, yeah, Israel is in
the land. Great, we're getting closer to the end. Let's work.
Let's help them build a temple in order for there's

(28:36):
to be someplace where the Antichrists to desecrate. And that's
where the criticism comes in. It's not the idea of
the history unfolding in certain arts and God dealing with
people in different ways over different periods of time. It's like,
what are people doing to try to make it come
to pass? And and then and that's when people that's
where you have people who criticize certain Christians for trying

(28:59):
to bring about the end times.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
It's funny because at the coffee shop that I was
at yesterday, I met a Christian missionary, real nice girl,
knows her stuff, and I just I asked her basically that,
and I was like, Hey, do you have any reservations
about you bring about the end times? Because kind of
that's what you're doing, right, I mean, you have to
preach the gospel to the ends of the earth. And
it's like, well, to what end? I mean where does

(29:24):
like how do you feel about that? And she's like, well,
that's what we're called to do. And I'm just like,
I get it. It just feels weird to me.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
It always I don't know if you if you heard,
but the tribulation has been canceled. Everybody rejoiced because apparently
none of the red heifers, they were all they all
didn't fit the bill. I saw that article came out today. Yeah, yeah,
who knows how true it is.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
I actually did ask her about that. I was like, so,
where are you at with the tribulation, you know, pre
post mid or well rapture, that's a rapture, the rapture, Yeah, yeah,
And of course she's like, oh, you know, I'm not
really sure, maybe somewhere in between.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
I'm just like, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
I don't know, dude. I think you think do you
think you're going up first? And it's it's a weird one.
It's a it's a weird one for me. But I
guess that's what Christian syndrome.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
So she was she's not going first, she's not going first, Yeah,
I don't know. I saw that article though, and it
said that, uh, all of the heifers that came out
of Texas, specifically those, which is you know, that was
the whole thing, because there's a ranch in Texas dedicated
to creating the perfect genetic red effort to fulfilled prophecy.
I don't know if I don't know if they have

(30:31):
a Christian Zionist bent and they're trying to escalate end
times or if they're just like, if we can make
these heifers, he makes some money, dude, because he's to
pay a lot, you know, why not, right?

Speaker 6 (30:44):
I guess, yeah, probably. I think it's a little bit
of both. Me I first got interviewed. He seems pretty
sincere so, but yeah, I'm sure he's that he's not
doing it for free, right.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
But she brought it right.

Speaker 6 (30:53):
She brought a good point top about another controversy with
the Schoolfield Bible that Scholfield was. I think I might
mention this before he's he was very much into the
rapture and the rapture is extremely controversial. I mean, it's
the most controversial topic in eschatology. And I think the
with with with the whole little season thing these days
being a close second. But the idea of the rapture

(31:15):
is again very controversial. Some people believe in it, many
people don't. And they say the ci Scholfield was a
disciple of John Darby, and then some people say, well,
you know Cei Schoofield influenced Derby, and I well, Darby
lived two hundred years before Cei Schoolfield was born, so
that's I don't. I don't really unless he had a
time machine, I don't think he influenced Darby. And perhaps

(31:36):
Darby influenced Scholfield. But again that that just adds to it.
So if you're not into scatology, if you think that
the rapture, especially the pre tribulation raptures crap, then you're
gonna say, Okay, Schofield isn't what he was talking about.
He had an agenda, and perhaps he did have an agenda,
maybe he was trying to promote Israel, but that's not
all he That's not the only thing he comment here on.
He had commentary throughout the entire his entire Bible, and

(32:01):
and so and so. Yes, so the rapture is a
big thing, and because people are really have a bug
up there up their rear for the rapture. You'll hear
people say that, you know John Darby in did it
the rapture. Well, unless John Darby had a time machine
and also went back to the first century and told
Paul to write first and second Thessalonians and one Corinthians fifteen,

(32:22):
then no, he didn't. Paul wrote about it first. Whether
or not you whether or not you think it's going
to happen before, in the middle or after the rapture
obviously after the tribulation is irrelevant. Paul said it was
going to happen, and Darby didn't invent that he had it.
It just became suppressed because for about a thousand years
the Catholic Church had dominance, and the Catholic Church it's

(32:44):
not like eschatology because you know, the idea of Jesus
returning and overturning the evil rulers isn't very popular with
the evil rulers. So yeah, right, exactly, so so they
there wasn't there's not a lot of eschatology in the
Catholic Church. But then when the the Reformation happened, a
lot of things that weren't being taught already being taught again,
and Darby started teaching the rapture again and people are like, oh.

(33:07):
The people were like, oh, this is new, this whole
rapture thing. You know, it's not new. It just hadn't
been taught for a thousand years readily because of of
the you know, because Carthousism dominated doctrine, you know, from
from about you know, seven hundred BC, seven hundred a
D until about seventeen hundred a D. But that's another controversy.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
I can I ask you something. This is going to
be a jarring aside. But was was King James a
gay demonologist?

Speaker 6 (33:35):
Probably?

Speaker 1 (33:36):
All right?

Speaker 6 (33:36):
No, I'm saying no. When I say probably, I mean
King James.

Speaker 7 (33:40):
He was not.

Speaker 6 (33:40):
He was not a great pious person. He was not.
I've heard that criticism before. I've had people tell me, well,
you know, you believe in the King James Bible and
King James was was a degenerate. Yeah, I probably was.
But King James didn't write the King James version of
the Bible. He just put his name on it. He
was like the executive producer.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Oh that's interesting. Well, even if he did write it.
It's like sometimes people like Hitler seems to be have
been a real big asshole. But if he said, like,
should you shouldn't abuse animals? That's wrong, you'd go like, well, yeah,
he's right about that one. Okay.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
So King James just funded the translation of it. I
think the some of the hold ups were that he
might have been a demonologist, so he wanted the most
accurate translation of the Bible in order to do his spells,
which even if true, it's like all right, So then
in the end we kind of got a really accurate
translation of the Bible.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
What do you think ed what's the most because I
because I own two King James versions. And you've talked
before about how the flowery language lends itself sometimes, like
when you were talking about God saying pretty harsh things
about the Jews and now you know, people go, well,
you shouldn't criticize the Jews, and it's like, well, you know,
God said a lot, so maybe you should be able

(34:53):
to call out the things that are happening. That doesn't
mean condemning them and saying you wish terrible things upon them,
but you know there's some pretty insulting things in the
Bible about them, and you said that the flowery language
of the King James version sort of makes that a
little cloudy. You can't really recognize how much punch is
in some of those things. Do you think that the

(35:13):
King James version is the best version for people to
be reading, or maybe there's a different one.

Speaker 6 (35:19):
I think. Here's here's why I think the King James
version or even the new King James is a good version,
not because it's perfect. It actually has some flaws, but
all those flaws are very well known, and so that's
why I and there are a lot in most of
your Bibles will have notes saying that you know that
this means this here, but this wasn't in the original manuscript.

(35:42):
It'll say, It'll tell you right there, this was not
in the original manuscript. It's been it's been so well
documented that the mistakes in it are are known. Where
As you get a newer version or another contemporary English
style version, which you know it has not gone through
the same amount of of of critical analysis, you don't know,

(36:03):
you know, where maybe making mistakes. And so as far
as the flowery language, it was just that was just
how they talked back then, and it seemed in our language.
It sounds very very polite. It says Adam knew his wife. Eve,
it's supposed to Adam bang the crap out of his
wife and drop the kid. Well, it's the same thing,
but you know, saying he knew her just sounds you know,

(36:24):
it sounds better, It sounds more polite.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
It's actually funny.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
That woman that I was talking with, I think she
was going to Uganda or another place in Africa today, Oh,
which is crazy.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
So I met her like she's like, oh, she's doing
missionary okay, yeah, yeah, but her job.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
I'm like, so, what are you building churches or something
out there. She's like, no, we're going out there. We're
teaching people how to lead churches. And we're also translating
the Bible to different language because I guess each of
these villages has like different dialects of whatever languages.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
What a massive undertaking. Crazy, that must be hugely difficult.
This meant this person at a coffee shop. I was like,
that's incredible, and you know that's what she's now, she's
flying out there to do that. It's a wow. It's
it's it's kind of wonderful, a wonderful thing about No.

Speaker 6 (37:04):
It's great. But I'll say that the good news about
the Bibles is that because we have things like a
Dead Sea scrolls, which actually were on display in southern
California when I was down there, I just didn't have it.
I would have loved to have gone to the museum
to see them. But because we have these old texts
that are dated, you know, third century BC, and we
and we have the Masoretic texts and the Texas Receptacus

(37:26):
and the Alexandrian texts, and we found all these we
can compare them to our modern versions and we can
see where there's discrepancies, and it's for all the flaws
of the King James, it's it's still you know, for
the most part, it's it's a good translation. And the
places where this is the mark we know and they've
been notated.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Well, it's fascinating because it's almost like an example of
God using, you know, a severely flawed dude who may
have been a homosexual demonologist, and how are you doing
to do something that, like, you know, whatever he did,
it's still a useful tool to us all the way
in twenty twenty five. So fascinating how that works. And

(38:05):
we talked about this in the last episode or assault
to Paul situation exactly.

Speaker 6 (38:09):
And we talked about this in the last episode where
God says specifically to the Jews, he says, I didn't
choose you because you were the best. I choose you
because you were the worst. I chose you because you
were the biggest a holes on the planet. You know,
look at their progender Jacob. Jacob was a scoundrel. He
cheated his brother Esaul, which I mean again, Esau was
no great person either. He was, you know, he wasn't
exactly a role model, but he cheated his brother out

(38:31):
of his birthright. He cheated him out of his blessing.
He you know, he started half half of the of
the of the the progenders of the twelve tribes were
the sons of his handmaid you know, because he had
his two wives, Leah and Rachel. So half the kids
come from them and the other half just came from
their maids. So and they did some terrible things. So

(38:52):
God said, I didn't choose you because you were the highest.
I told you because you were the lowest of all people.
So that people would say, if God, if God can
make these jackasses, has chosen people, then there's hope for
me too.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
It's like he's talking to us.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Yeah, but it's it's interesting because Jacob and Esa that story,
it's it's kind of always overlooked, and I don't know,
it's probably not always overlooked, but by by me, I'm
always like, well, Esa had a very bad bloodline going
on here, so that's why God hated him.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
But I'm like, this dude stole.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Dude, that's what dude tricked. Stole lied to his father. Yeah,
and that's that's a no note.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
And then everything springs forth or you know, they spring
forth from him, which is wild because you know, as
somebody who's uh late to Christianity, as I am going
through that, I'm like, yeah, this guy seems like he sucks.
He seems like he sucks. And then so I guess
that's just another one of those brothers were like pretty
bad too, but like that's not no. But Jacob seemed

(39:46):
like a super And then he comes into it from
the field and he's about to die and he's like
desperate and he's like, can you give me some of
that what is a red lentilsuit whatever it is, And
he's like, yeah, dude, I'll give it to you. Just
give me everything that's meaningful to you exactly, Like, damn, dude,
you're you suck.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
They both so you have to look look back at
at Isaac and and and Rachel. I was a Rachel.
I'm sorry Rebecca, and like you guys are bad parents.
You raised two really rotten kids. Yeah, dude, that's a
whole other thing.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
It is interesting, though, because the Bible is filled with
so so whenever you get on somebody kind of gets
on their high horse. And it's like this, especially people
that were raising the church, they have a sort of
a bad taste in their mouth for them now people right,
And And it's interesting because maybe that bad taste is
is well founded considering how often God uses seemingly terrible

(40:39):
people to do incredible things over and over and over again.
That that seems like an overwhelming theme in the Bible.
Oh is that get thunder?

Speaker 6 (40:49):
He uses he uses the lowest, Yeah, he used he
uses some of the lowest people to make the point
and that and I think that's that's the reason to
say that God said when that versus God is no
respect for a person, meaning that he doesn't look at
people the same way we do. We want someone we
want to admire you if you are rich and you're
good looking or you know, highly accomplished, which is fine,

(41:11):
nothing wrong with those things. But God's like, no, because
you already have built in status. I'm going to take
someone from the bottom and give them the status, so
you know that it came from me. You can say that.
You know, if if someone who is you know, a
billionaire starts giving his money away and he said, God
told me to give my money away, Okay, oh, he's
such a great person because you did all this stuff. No,

(41:32):
how about if God in stiss takes someone who's who
is homeless, blesses them to become a billionaire and then
they give it away, then they can say, you know what,
this is all because of God. It's not because of
my achievement. It's not because I created a great AI
or whatever and became rich and then gave my money away. No,
that's all you. But if God takes someone who's low,
you can say, you know, this is all God. I
couldn't have done anything without God.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
And that's a good point. That's a great point.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
I was actually having a like an argument with someone online.
I know, go figure, but the guy. The guy was
talking about Ben Asker and he's a former MMA fighter.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah, so cool, dude. I love the Ben Askin situation
right now. I don't love no, I hate what he's
going through, but I love that he found God in
a huge way.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
So he's one of these guys. He's a he's a wrestler,
MMA fighter, but I guess he was an atheist prior
and he would just reject any idea of talking about God.
He's he's kind of an intellectual when you listen to
him talking.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
He's actually married to a Christian for fifteen years, but
she was going to the church and they made an
agreement early on to keep it separate. Like yeah, you
go to church and do your thing, but I don't
want anything to do with that.

Speaker 6 (42:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
And anyway, I think he was a training got some
sort of staff infection and ended up having to get
a double lung transplant after Like wow, yeah, massive uh
massive vibe?

Speaker 1 (42:50):
What would you call that? I don't even know, Like
a what is what does staff turn into? Like a MRSA?

Speaker 6 (42:55):
Yeah, I know, I know staff. Staff's bacterial, but I don't.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Know what it was can become well, I don't know what.
All I know is yeah. I mean, the dude went
from being like we're talking about a high level fighting athlete,
like an athlete in combat sports to a guy that
looks like a walking skeleton who died apparently like seven
times is what he said something. I don't know how
many times he died. He died a shit ton in
that whole time.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Four times, four times, four times anyway, So at the
end of that, he's like, you know, he came out
of it, and he's like, I'm going to go to
church and I'm going to give this a shot and
look into God. So I guess he's saying that he
is now a Christian, which is, you know, whatever, neither
here nor there, but the idea that he's looking into it,
I think is great. And in the comments, of course,
someone's like they go, oh yeah, it's like God only

(43:38):
takes you when you're at your lowest. It's like like
basically you'd have to be a weakling in order to
submit to God. On I'm like, how backwards, Like how
backwards are you thinking? Where It's like, that's the most powerful,
The most powerful thing you could do is to submit
where you're this guy is sitting here thinking that he
has all the power, but really you're just a coward
because you're not You're not even giving this thing a

(43:59):
fair shot.

Speaker 6 (44:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
I was seeing people in the comments that were saying
things like, oh, so he's thanking Jesus for saving him,
but not the doctors, not the doctors, And it's like, hey,
maybe for a second, imagine that a dude that died
four times had an experience that you don't understand and
that was so profound that it exceeded thanking the doctors,

(44:21):
which I'm sure Ben Askren thanked the doctors, you know
what I mean. But whatever it was led him to
finding specifically Christianity, is what he said. He was almost
in tears when he was trying. He was like choking
up on the words Christianity, and these people are just
reducing it and going, oh yeah, you thank God. What
it was really the doctors. It's like, dude, you think
something didn't happen there, You think he didn't have something

(44:43):
that you don't understand, like that I don't understand, like
this is this guy died. You're literally an anonymous person
on the internet. I don't know. It's amazing.

Speaker 6 (44:54):
How can you tell someone else their experience exactly exactly,
And what's wrong with you? You honestly that you can
take this person's situation and you want to mock it.
That's that tells me more about you than it does
about him.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
And it's crazy that you don't go like exactly what
I just said, which is like, wow, I wonder what
I wonder what he experienced. I wonder what this guy saw,
what he went through, what he felt that made him
come out of this several you know, not even several
near death experiences and even though he abstained for fifteen years,
he decided that.

Speaker 6 (45:27):
This was the truth.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
But what an admission of like a stubborn child, that is,
it's almost like like they know the truth, but they
have to they're almost like daring God, Like, yeah, welsh Man,
you'd have to bring me to my knees. You'd have
to make me in order to serve or to recognize you.
And it's like, why stupid, You'd have to make me
realize I'm retarded? Yes, like pretty much, that's that's what

(45:52):
it is.

Speaker 6 (45:52):
Well, my next couple of public episodes of Geness series,
I've gone through creation adamant even all that, So I'm
gonna I'm going to do my two I'm going to
do at least two episodes on evolution, you know, do
give the give the other side, and and and the
last one I'm going to actually give the atheists. I'm
going to give them a gift. I'm going to tell
them why they're so pissed off about the god that

(46:14):
claim doesn't exist. Do you think it?

Speaker 1 (46:17):
And you know, don't You don't have to dive into
it at length. But is there any real argument for
evolution or is it just adaptation that we can observe
in real time? Or is there some examples where you'll
go like, it looks like there is some aspect of
evolution that exists, but maybe not the one that we've
been given where we came from like mud skippers all

(46:39):
the way up to dudes walking around on you know,
doing podcasts.

Speaker 6 (46:42):
Well, there are two things that are both called evolution,
macro evolution and micro evolution. Macro evolution which is what
the what the big theory that secular theory is is
that one species can become another species through random chance
and random mutations. Microevolution is very variation with the species
and that's not actual evolution. That's one species has variation

(47:05):
within it. Like dogs, you have chihuahuas and you have
Great Danes. They're all dogs. It wasn't like the the
chihuaba was the primordial version that that evolved into the
into the into the great Dane. No, they're just different species.
But they're just I mean, they're they're the same species.
There's just a variation within it. But evolutions evolutionist will
say that because we have different types of dogs, that

(47:28):
proves that one evolved from the other. No, it doesn't.
They all came from a common ancestors ancestor, they were
all a wolf. And I sometimes tease my dog. I
have an old Golden Retriever who's like the most doubtsile
animal in the world, and I'm like, you know, you
were once a wolf, What the hell is wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (47:42):
They're so goofy, they have like the seemingly no survival instinct,
and they're they're they're basically like a child. Golden Retrievers
are like some aspect of of a of a toddler,
and they just remain there.

Speaker 6 (47:53):
The Really, I mean, I love my she's she's great,
she's she's twelve, she's like, you know, getting towards the end,
it's going to be devastating. But I'm like, you are not.
You're good for if I shoot an animal, you can
go and bring it back to me. But you're not.
There's no kill in you at all. You know, if
someone breaks into our house, she'd go up to him
and like start rubbing up against him and you know,
licking them, like, yeah, thanks, great guard dogg. But but

(48:13):
the whole point of that is if the micro evolution
or variation within a species is not evolution, evolution says
that that wolf used to be a salamander, and there's
no evidence for that at all. In fact, genetics speaks
against it. Evolution is impossible, not just not because of
the Bible and my whole evolution series. I don't even
talk about the Bible. I just look at the science.

(48:34):
That's not how genetics don't work that way. Mutations are
never beneficial. There's never been a single beneficial mutation ever observed,
not one. And also, our DNA is self correcting. Our
DNA is designed not to pass on negative traits, so
it doesn't our DNA does not generally pass on negative mutations.
Held usually cleans them up, you know.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
And so the idea the idea of evolution in the
sense that you're talking about really starts to seem like
nephlam shit, right, Like when you're talking about like genetic manipulation,
seems like what that's what they're after, this idea of
crisper and uh, you know the dog headed people.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
And yeah, if you wanted to highlight an example of
one species becoming another, you might look at like chimeras
or something like that, which is like the sphinx.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
I mean, yeah, it's like a human with a cathead
and a tail. It's like, that's all nephylim stuff, right.

Speaker 6 (49:25):
Yeah, yeah, that's all that's all genetic manipulation. But that's
not but that show that's intelligent. Someone had to intelligently
do that, which shows that it can't happen by random chance.
I mean, in order to believe in evolution, you have
to violate like other scientific laws that are established, like
the law all three laws of thermodynamics have to be
not true in order for evolution to be true. Because

(49:45):
the first aspect of just naturalism in general is that
it's a big bang, that there was nothing and then
nothing exploded and became everything. Well, that violates the first
law of thermodynamics, which in Layman's term, states that matter
and energy cannot be created or destroyed, So then it
can't be created out of nothing. But we know that
we know that that the universe is finite, which means

(50:06):
it had a definitive beginning, which means that there had
to be some point where there was not a physical
universe and then there was. That can't be with the
first law thermodynamics. The second law is up. Thermodynamics is
basically chaos theory that over time things lose energy and
they break down. You go from complex to simple. Evolution
says the exact opposite that you go from simple to complex.

(50:26):
You can't observe that in nature you can, you cannot
recreate that in a controlled setting, which means it's not
empirical science. Everything goes from order to chaos. Nothing goes
from chaos to order. That is impossible. That violates the
second law thermodynamics. We can't go from a single celled
animal to a trillion celled human being according to the

(50:46):
second law thermodynamics, so you'd have to deny that. So
and what I do after I go through all that here,
I tell the the the atheists why they are so
angry at the god they don't believe in. It's because
it's not because of any logical argument. It's because of
the unconscious mind. Because your onn conscious mind knows truth objectively.

(51:13):
Now your conscious mind, which is only ten percent of
your brain. Maybe talk about this when when John Lenhart
was on a few months ago, you're you're unconscious brain.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
I'm sorry, it's been How is he doing it's been
a while.

Speaker 6 (51:24):
Oh, he's doing good. Actually, there's I want to talk
later on Maybe i'll email you guys about that. There's
someone that he's been doing a podcast with what I
think would be great to be on your show. Actually,
he's he's a he's a he's a fan of yours.
He actually discovered John when he was on our show,
when he was on this show, and they've been communicating
and he is a guy who's he's gone through a
lot of stuff he's with with with Buddhism and things

(51:46):
like that, and he's got some incredible insights about how
there's actually not really a divorce between Christianity and and
true Buddhism, not what people think Buddhism is. And I'm
learning some stuff from him as well. And so as
we get it. When the time is right, I'm gonna
talk to you guys about maybe like doing an episode
with him. It's a really interesting stuff. Actually, here and

(52:06):
John have have some episodes up now, send you the
link to them. But in any case, just wrap this up.
Your unconscious mind knows that evolution is wrong. It knows
that life doesn't come from non life. Because your unconscious
just knows reality. Your conscious can say, well, your conscious
can believe your your conscious mind can believe lies. Your
unconscious can't. It only knows reality. It only knows truth.

(52:30):
And so if you're an atheist, your unconscious mind is saying, well,
you know life doesn't come from non life, and you're like, yes,
it does, No, it doesn't. But your unconscious is trying
to help you. Your unconscious is your biggest fan. It's
not moral. It just knows patterns and knows right and wrong.
So every time you're an atheist and you're spouting evolution,
your unconscious mind is saying, you know that's not true,

(52:52):
and it's trying to help you along. But you don't
know that. So but it's bothering you. It's it's feeding
you in negative emotions because you're unconsciou doesn't speak to
you with words. It speaks to you through emotions. So
you know, when you're when you walk into a room
and you feel uneasy, that's your unconscious saying there's something
wrong here, you need to figure out what it is.
Or like when you walk into a room and you
see someone who's who who you're attracted to, you don't decide, hey,

(53:14):
I want to be attracted to them. No, that's your
unconscious saying, oh, this person meets the criteria of the
things you find attractive. So I'm going to I'm going
to send certain chemicals to you into your brain that
that you know that will kind of basically arouse you
and get you to go talk to this person. So,
so with the atheist, you're the unconscious is is kind

(53:35):
of poking at them saying, you know this isn't true.
You know this isn't true. Why why do you believe?
This life doesn't come from non life? Mutations aren't beneficial? No,
nothing can't explode and create everything. But what happens is
they think that, so they get angry. It bothers them
that you know, their their unconscious mind keeps poking them,
and they blame Christians, and so they go onto onto

(53:59):
your YouTube channel and in comment sections and there, and
they just get into arguments with Christians over the gods
they don't believe is real, because they think that once
they defeat a Christian in an argument, or once they
read enough books or or disparaged Christianity, that poking in
their blind will go away. But it won't. And the
reason it won't is because it's not external, it's internal.

(54:20):
And until they address their unconscious, they're going to keep
being bugged by it. They're going to keep being irritated
by it, and they're going to keep being angry. And
that's why atheists are always so angry and always fighting
against something that they don't even think is real.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
We had a blackout for a second. There's a storm
rolling in and all the power died and we were like,
oh no, dude, I'm still it still got recorded. But yeah, no,
I definitely got recorded. That's still happening. Okay, are we
coming through the correct microphones and everything? Yeah, I'll check,
I'll check, but sorry. So so we quote what you

(54:55):
were saying before, which is that the subconscious mind knows
that that evolution is not correct, that life can't spring
forth from non life. But we lost you right after that.

Speaker 6 (55:06):
Okay, So and brief, what I was saying is that
it's always kind of the unconscious communicates through emotions, through
through through things like that, so it doesn't communicate through
words like As a example I was giving is that
when you walk into a room and there's somebody you
don't like, you don't see them, but you're unconscious sees
them and it makes you feel uneasy. You're like, there's
something something's off in here. Or or if you walk

(55:28):
into a room and you see someone who's attractive, your
unconscious mindsets, oh, that's the kind of person you like.
I'm going to send you pleasure chemicals and arouse you
so that you go talk to them. So, but with
the evolution aspect, you're unconscious makes them feel uneasy and irritated.
He's poking them saying you know that's not true. You
know that's not true, and it gets them angry. But
they don't know that their anger is coming from they're unconscious.

(55:49):
They think their anger is coming from God and Christians.
So they go and attack Christians, and they go and
attack God, and they disparage God, thinking that if I
can defeat these Christians, then that poking in my mind
will stop.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
But it does. That is interesting because a lot of
atheists are some of the most angry people that I've
ever met, you.

Speaker 6 (56:08):
Know, because they are fighting ninety percent of their brain
every day with what they believe, and they think that
and again, instead of addressing the unconscious mind, they believe
that it's they attack God. They attack Christians because they
think that we are their enemy. And if they can
beat us in an argument or a debate, or if
they get enough evidence, or if they disparage you know,

(56:29):
the guy, the fighter you were talking about, eventually that
poking will stop. But it never will. You'll notice this,
and I promise you that when I do the serial
on evolution, a bunch of atheists are going to come
out of the woodwork into my comments section talking crap
because they are intentionally trolling YouTube looking for anyone talking
about this debate because they want to talking about creation

(56:49):
so that they can debate them and try to finally
beat that poking in their brain. But it's not coming
from us, it's coming from their own unconscious and until
they address their unconscious, they're going to because they're let's
let's say get into a fight with a Christian online,
and let's say they're smarter than that Christian. Maybe that's
a new Christian. Maybe they're just maybe they're not a
good debater. And they win the argument and they feel good.

(57:10):
Their brain releases endorphins and like, I've beat the Christian.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Yay.

Speaker 6 (57:15):
But then those endorphins settle down and then they get
pissed off again. Now they got to find a new
Christian to fight, and they do it over and over
and over again. They read all the books by Sam
Harris and Christopher and Hitchens and Dawkins, thinking that if
they can finally beat Christianity, they that poking in their
brain will go away. But it won't because that's it's
your unconscious So until you address that, you're always gonna

(57:37):
be miserable. And that's what that's gonna be. That's going
to be my gift to the atheist. I'm going to
teach them how to address their unconscious mind and he
can finally be free.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
You're gonna set them free. We were talking to Izzy
and Griffin and he's actually a fan of yours. He
said he's been watching a lot of your content. I
guess as he was scoping out us before he came
on and he saw you, He's like, this guy is
like really answering some of my questions. But he wrote
this concept that was I thought, think it's kind of
genius where he's saying that the archetypes that we once

(58:09):
embodied are no longer they're no longer functional, and we're
moving into this like I don't know, post realism society
where those archetypes are being replaced by other archetypes which
aren't real because of I mean, partially because of the Internet,
partially because of the fabricated reality that everybody agrees to
continue to live in and push forward. And this is

(58:31):
the maddening part of being an atheist, where it's like
you're constantly confronted with what's in front of your face
that is real, and you understand on a deep level
the logos the truth of what is happening, but you
have to argue against you have to constantly kick against
the brambles, and then you just make redefinitions of words
and archetypes and feelings and people, and all of a sudden,

(58:52):
like it never it will never stop. It fractionates to
what did he say? There were eight main archetypes, and
then it turned into it turned into like, I don't know,
it's like sixty four of them now because there has
to be it has to continue to expand in order
to fit whatever narrative needs to be suited these days.
But really, what you're doing is just diving deeper into

(59:14):
the madness and there's no there's gonna be no explanation
or rationality for this.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
So it's just yeah, it's it's funny too, because you
know what Ed is talking about, this this getting upset
with your own subconscious understanding of the truth. At anytime
somebody is like irrationally angry with you, it's always like
a safe bet to go. This person's not mad at me,

(59:39):
you're mad at your dad, you're mad at you, you're
mad at yourself. There's something within you right that that
is got you all twisted up in the game. So
I just find it funny because there's a long version
of that. But then remember the Bell Curve meme where
it's like I always find this there's long explanations, but
those long explanations always end up siding with Well, if

(01:00:02):
you just had faith and lean not on your own
understanding right, because there's the bell curve meme where it's
like the dude with a dent in his head and
he's just like, Jesus is King. And then it goes
up and the IQ swings up, you know, to whatever
it is, this average IQ, yeah, the median IQ, and
it's like, how could you believe in a man in
the clouds with a beard? And dah dah dah dah,

(01:00:23):
and it's just this long, you know, angry, uh, you know,
kind of ridicule centered question. And then the bell curve
swings back down to the high IQ and it goes
Jesus Christ is King and it's like whatever, you There
is ways to explain it to the intellectual, but I
find that where we're constantly hindered by our own understanding,

(01:00:45):
and then it just swings back to a place where
it's just like, yeah, well, it's kind of why the
Bible says have faith and lean not on your own understanding,
because a lot of the times, even if you get there,
you'll end up right where you could have started.

Speaker 6 (01:00:57):
Well, the thing is, we don't know everything. And this
is why getting back to the Schofield aspect of it,
because schofields he dismissationalism. As I said before, it leans
towards eschatology. And the problem with the eschatology is that
most of despite what our little seasoned friends think, most
of prophecy hasn't happened yet. So we know what's going

(01:01:18):
to happen, well, we don't know how. And that lends
itself to all these wild theories that go out there
and that people that are controversial, you know, be it,
you know, the rapture of the Antichrist, how things are going.
So people have all these ideas. You know, it's the
big thing now is that AI is the Antichrist or
this thing. So we don't we don't know. We know
that there's going to be a figure. This beast is
the beast. Will it be a human? Will it be

(01:01:40):
a nepheline, will it be a robot? We don't know.
We know that we know the what, we don't know
the how. And so since we don't know the how,
it lends itself to all these different speculations, and it
makes us uncomfortable. And the thing is, our unconscious mind
thrives when we're comfortable, and when someone disrupts that comfort,
that's when we rage against it. You know I have

(01:02:01):
some in my book on the Little Season. Oh by
the way, real real quick thing, real quick aside, for
those of you who actually want to help me out,
go to Amazon look at my book and give me
a five star review, because there's like a one star
review there. I'm like, yeah, this is Jack. He's a jerk.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Just that's how it is. Yeah, dude, I want to
say that to the audience. You don't understand. The people
that dislike a thing will mobilize, they will get out,
and they will write bad reviews. And people that like
a thing will just purchase it, enjoy it and move
on happily and not give any feedback. And you don't
realize how much these people can affect a thing. It's
the same way with like, you know, we have three

(01:02:36):
hundred and fifty or something ratings on like Apple podcasts,
and all it takes is like ten a holes to
drop it significantly. And let me tell you something, they
will go out of their way to come and do
horrible things if they don't like you, and the people
that enjoy your content they tend to just smile and
keep moving. And so it would be great if even

(01:02:57):
a small percentage are the people that actually enjoy somebody's
work will go out of their way and and and
say something nice if you if you purchased it, if
you enjoy it, if you want to support ED, go
in and leave a five star rating, because God knows
these a holes are going out of their way. There's people,
let me tell you something, do they don't even read
the book. They just go I'm a little seasoner baby,

(01:03:17):
and I don't like that ED is pushing back against it.
And so now I'm going to use what little power
I have in the form of a one star review
to UH to try to ruin things for you.

Speaker 6 (01:03:27):
So, I mean, the past majority of myself aren't even
from Amathon. I'm getting almost nothing from Amazon. Most of
my cells come from Patreon and from my website, which
I appreciate because I don't I don't have to get
mamathon their cut. But if somebody does want to go there,
you know, throw it, just put a it will take
you a minute. Just go in and put a five star.
Now I'd appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
I dropped it in the UH in the comments, So
just go ahead and click there and do might as well.
Might as well.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
It's super easy for you guys, go there. It's Ed Maybury,
the little season of Satan.

Speaker 6 (01:03:54):
Go there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Give them a good rating. We actually have a question.
It looks like for you, Ed, and it says they
want to derail the conversation as usual.

Speaker 6 (01:04:01):
I don't want to derail.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
But this maybe ties into ED and I'm a and
I'm a weather retard. Is this why animals and humans
all know when shit's about to hit the fan?

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Oh, that's interesting. That's an interesting question. It's talking about
that subconscious understanding of the truth and how it may
relate to animals that seem to know when something is
going to go down and then they get the hell
out of there.

Speaker 6 (01:04:24):
Yeah, animals are all unconscious.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
We are.

Speaker 6 (01:04:27):
We have a ten percent that's our conscious right control.
The animals are one hundred percent unconscious.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Such a stupid joke.

Speaker 6 (01:04:37):
So and that's and I think if we were more
attuned to our unconscious, we would be able to see.
Our unconscious sees everything. It walks into a room, it
sees everyone instantly. Our conscious mind we can see one
person at a time when you walk into the room,
Like I said, that could be out of the corner
of your eye. There could be like you know, a
girl or guy, whatever your preference is, that that's attractive.

(01:04:57):
You don't seem directly you're looking here, they're over there.
You're unconscious sees them, it says, and then you feel
this needs like I wonder what's good. I feel something,
I'm going to look up there, Oh, look at that
hot girl. Your unconscious sees everything. It hears everything, here's
every conversation that's going on, but it filters it based
on what it what it believes you want, what you've
told it you want, and that's why you can. Have

(01:05:20):
you ever been in a situation where you decide that,
you know, the classic example is you say, you know,
I want to buy a red truck. Then all of
a sudden, you keep seeing red trucks everywhere. No, you
were there were always red trucks around, but you're unconscious
didn't focus you on them because it didn't know you
wanted that. But when you're unconscious, here's, oh, you want
a red trump, Okay, I'll make sure you see them.

(01:05:42):
And it's it's the same thing with opportunities. When you know,
when I was, you know, started doing faith by reason,
I was like, well, you know, I'm not trying to
do this to make money. I'm just I just want
to get the word out and I just want to
help people. Then when then, when I started with the
help of you guys, you guys were very instrumental and
me saying and saying, hey, you know, you need to
monetize this stuff. Now I'm saying, opportunities everywhere to monetize it.
They were always out there. I just wasn't focused on it.

(01:06:03):
But now my unconscious says, oh, you want to supplement
your income with this, great, let's will I will now
point you to it, or I will or make sure
you're focused and you see these opportunities. So so the
point is with the weather stuff, you're unconscious if you
say that you know, I want to I want to
be more in tune with this, and then you start
practicing it with repetition. You need to do repetition again.

(01:06:26):
We have to have John back on again to talk.
I know this isn't you know, the normal Bailey Wick
for the show, but really interesting stuff, and he can
he can help people attune it. But when you repetitively
say I want to be more in tune with the weather,
and then you then you start studying weather and you
start looking out for it. You're unconscious says, oh this
is what you want. I will get you more in
tune with it. You know, Mike, my grandmother could feel

(01:06:48):
when a storm was coming on. She literally could, and
because she was in tune with it, not because she
was magic, but because she told her unconscious mind. Not
just you know that she was more in tune with
she actually wanted to be more in tune with it
because of you know, they lived in East Texas. It
was a tornado area, and so she and so it
was it was life and death. She had to be
aware when a tornado was coming so they could go

(01:07:09):
to a shelter. And then even when she moved to California,
she would say, you know what I feel. I feel
bad weather coming because she was so in tune, because
that's what that was her repetitive thing that she would
do if she was a young girl.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
That's interesting because there has to be a function that
we could probably tune into. I mean, unless we're just
that biologically different. But you'll see like herds of deer
escaping an area, you know, only moments before something tremendous,
like a like a landslide will happen or an earthquake
or what happens.

Speaker 6 (01:07:36):
Yeah, out here, it's all about earthquakes. You know, my dog,
it's as worthless as she is. She sometimes gets a
little ants right before an earthquake.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Hmm, that's interesting. My my cat has this weird. I
don't know how to explain. I've been going through quite
a bit. I'm not going to get into my dreams.
I promise. Don't press the button. No, no, no, it's
don't press the dream No. It's a but it sings
about dreams every time I talk about dreams. But I've
been having a lot of you know, really harrowing. A

(01:08:06):
crap happened in the way of dreams and paralysis, and
and I prayed about it last night and it stopped
on a dime. So thank God, God is good. But
my cat will be there like a lot, or she'll
wake me up if I'm like struggling or having a dream,
and then she just stares at me and watches me.
Don't press the dream button.

Speaker 6 (01:08:21):
That's so.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
I do think that animals have a sixth sense. But
but but I have to get out of here in
twenty minutes. I was I was promised foreskins. Okay, okay, foreskins.
I've been watching the clock. Give me five minutes before
we go, before we start talking about lopping off four skins. Okay,
it's not gonna take that long, I promise, all right,
button so that it's I don't like how blurry it

(01:08:44):
is when it looks at me. Can you fix that, producer,
I'll fix it, or have Nancy here. See everybody can
see it's very blurry. It's unflattering, and I don't like
how that's.

Speaker 6 (01:08:52):
Okay, So please before we get to force, because I
want to get to one more thing, I want to
wrap up the whole Scholfield thing by kind of widening
the skull of what we're talking about, because it's something
that I've been noticing and that going to get you
guys thoughts on it. And it's about, you know, the
modern Israel in the way things are going with that,
because the Scholfield Bible is part and parcel of that.
The people who are anti Israel are also by and

(01:09:14):
large anti Schoolfield Bible. They you know, they talk about
the things we talked about then, and it's kind of
a strong man argument because they're not fighting against what
Scholfield did per se with this commentary. They're there. It's
like the thing with with with with BLM and the
tech and the Tea Party. They're they're they're not liking
what the people who have taken his comments to an extreme.

(01:09:37):
So they're mad at the extremists, not necessarily at the commentary.
But what I'm starting to notice is a huge dichotomy
with no nuance. People are either very pro Israel or
very anti Israel, with very little nuance, very little objectiveness.
They either Israel is great, you can't talk about them.
They're the only democracy over there. There are allies, and

(01:09:59):
they surrounded by the enemies. They're justified doing whatever they
want to do. On the other end, you have and
you know, this is basically our government to be, to
be honest with you, whether it's Republican or Democrat, they
are very much pro is Roll. And of course you
have the Christian Zionist and you have that group. Then
on the other end you have being Israel is worse
than Nazi Germany. Net Yah, who is a modern day Hitler.

(01:10:22):
They're you know, they're they're starving and killing, they're committing
a genocide. They're wiping people off the map. They're doing
all these terrible things. You never support them the best,
all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
I see, you've been on Twitter.

Speaker 6 (01:10:33):
I've been on Twitter. I've been you know, I've been
watching Candas Omens and Tucker Carlson her nose pokes, and
you know, it's interesting because I mean, I like watching
her because she's smart, she's funny, she's articulate, but she's
very passionate and and if you listen to her long enough,
you can get yeah, net and yah, who is the devil?
And maybe he is. I'm not saying he's not, but

(01:10:54):
it's a very extreme view and there's no nuance. And
on the other side, when you, you know, listen to
our government, when you listen to certain TV preachers, it's
the other side. And that concerns me because what I'm
starting to see is a Hegelian dialectic.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 6 (01:11:10):
I'm stepping back and saying, both of these guys are
getting funded by the bad people. Our government is obviously
is easy funded by the bankers. A lot of these
televange of us, I'm sure they're getting some funding from
from the elites. And then the other side, and what
I've noticed with the Candace owenses of the world. They're
very Catholic. I mean, we talked before about how she's

(01:11:31):
gone like in a year to mean hyper hyper Catholic.
And and then I don't think. I don't know if
Tucker Carlson is he's a Christian. I don't know if
he's a Catholic or not. But Kansas, Oh, okay, we
can talk about that. We can talk about that later.
But she had this guy right wing Milo something or other. Yes,

(01:11:55):
he was, you know, formerly gay whatever, according to work,
and he was on it and were talking. They were,
you know, bashing Israel. And I noticed that he claims
to be a Christian. Now maybe he isn't he is great,
but he also he was wearing a cross with Jesus
on it, which is Catholic. You know, Catholicism. Jesus is
constantly on the cross. Jesus never in their minds, he
never came off the cross. He's constantly being sacrificed. That's

(01:12:17):
what the Eucharist is. Every mask, Jesus re sacrifices himself
for you, and you're drinking of his blood and eating
his body, and he's perpetually on the cross. So and
they were and they says some disparaging things about Protestants,
and okay, so again I'm seeing this. I'm thinking Hegelian dialectic,
you know, thesis, antithesis, synthesis, And we see this and

(01:12:41):
we see this with like with like, you know, right wing,
left wing, they're both Hegelians. So the right wing ultimate
you know, anti authoritarian and and and and lazi fair capitalism.
On the other end is socialism, communism. Those are thesis,
anti anti antiesis and excuse me antithesis. But the synthesis

(01:13:03):
is basically crony capitalism, corporate welfare. And this is what
the elites really want. So my question is, I see
a dialectic extremely hate Israel, extremely love Israel. What is
the synthesis going to be, because that's what they really want.
They're funding both sides of the extreme argument with the
idea that we're going to come to a synthesis that
will benefit them. And I'm wondering what is a synthesis

(01:13:25):
because I'm stepping back and I'm like, this is both
of you guys are nuts. So there's something in the
middle that the elites want. I'm just not sure what
it is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
Yeah, they're asking us to they're begging us to ask
for an answer. And this is why I stepped away
from that kind of thinking, you know, a while ago.
And I mean even dude at the coffee shop was like,
he's like, do you guys hate you guys hate the Jews?
And I'm like, no, we don't. Like we went through
all the phases of like you have to notice what
they're doing, and then you go, well this isn't right

(01:13:54):
then you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Now we just kind of bust their balls.

Speaker 6 (01:13:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Now I'm just kind of like poking at them a
little bit because it's it's sometimes it's fun, but it's
clearly set up to do.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
To get this reaction.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
And then when you see somebody like Milo Yanapolis, who
I love because he is this cultural figure that whenever
you see him, don't take anything he says seriously. He
is the actual gesture of the court. He will be
and look like whatever is needed at the time or

(01:14:25):
whatever he thinks is needed at the time. So whether
it's a gay Republican that's Milo at the time, if
it's now this pseudo Christian right wing you know, not
not even anti Maga, but like pointing out he came
up in the MAGA movement. He is that person now,
and he does a fantastic job at pointing out and exploiting.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
All these holes in the game.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
So I see it, but I understand his role, and
I think it's the same thing with Candice Owens. Candace
came up in this weird leftist college echo chamber, then
she's on with Dave Rubin, and then she's on the
Daily Why, and now she is this person, right, And
I'm like, all right, we're being told, we're being told
which side to take here, and I think I find

(01:15:07):
it useful that they're doing it. I don't believe these
people at all. No, I don't trust at all enow Yeah,
but it's entertaining and also, you know, they do bring
up a lot of good points. It's just but I'm
just not going to get to the point where then
you go, therefore we have to and that's what everyone's
everyone's waiting for that shoot.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
A drop of therefore, right, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
So, but I'm watching these guys, Tucker, Carlson, her and
now you know, now they have even Nick Nick fuentt
Is is thrown into the mix of I just I tweeted,
I said, this guy's gonna be president and.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
I got like five hundred followers, but I don't think
I'm wrong, and I also don't want that. I'm not
asking for that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
I'm just saying, this is what everybody's pointing to.

Speaker 6 (01:15:50):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
This is the way that things are moving, and it's
the way that they want us to move, and it's
the way that we will move because people are just retarded.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
But that's I'm also in that same place where I'm
done moving where they want us to move. I realize that,
like they made a lot of the they did an
excellent job. A lot of the silos that they'd like
to funnel you into are awfully tempting because they're paved
the path to them with a lot of truth about
the situation for the last ten years or so. But
I'm realizing how close we're getting to the silo. And

(01:16:18):
then what happens is the doors are gonna shut behind
you and you're gonna be left to deal with the
consequences of whatever thing they pushed you towards, and they're
not going to have to engage in it whatsoever. They're
going to be off, you know, in their ivory towers.
Sip in my ties and laughing at all the poors
that are engaging in whatever, if it's World War three
or some dumb shit like that, and I'm just I'm done.
But I engaged in it for a while because it

(01:16:40):
was satisfying. Because they they quashed it. You could not
engage in it for the longest time. There was some
satisfaction that came from engaging with it. But I realize,
like this is rapidly going in a direction that they're
very happy about. Yeah, and then so I'm done engaging
with it now.

Speaker 6 (01:16:55):
Okay, all right, yes, so I agree. It's all about
the synthesis they're going to out there lead us somewhere.
I'm just trying to figure out where it is and
maybe it has something to do with in times and
biblical stuff, and maybe that's where they're trying to go ultimately, Okay, Foreskins.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
Foreskins, I was getting worried there were looking at the clock.
I'm like, I was promised, very excited. Okay, so hopefully
it's not disappointing.

Speaker 6 (01:17:16):
So so here's the thing. Keep in mind that good
job that everything that God commands there there may be
a physical aspect, but the most important aspect is the spiritual.
What it represents on the spiritual plane. So God commanded
Abraham as a as a sign of the covenant, to
to circumcise the males, to cut off the foreskin. Why

(01:17:39):
would you do that? Why does God hate extra skin?
All right? So there is so On the physical aspect,
what it does is it literally marks you as separate,
because the justeral rights were supposed to be a separate nation,
and that clearly a physical separation. You're going to look
very different down there than than anyone else. The second

(01:18:00):
thing to keep in mind is that it is a
blood sacrifice in and all the blood sacrifices in the
levitical laws. You know, sacrificing a goat or a lamb
or a bull was a symbol spiritually of the covering
of your sin that will be ultimately that would that
would have been ultimately brought into fruition when Jesus made

(01:18:21):
his sacrifice. So all these were address rehearsal for the
ultimate sacrifice, the ultimate blood sacrifice of Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Because he was.

Speaker 6 (01:18:29):
Innocent, he never committed sin. A baby is innocent, has
not committed to sin, and you have the blood sacrifice.
You're not gonna actually go like Moloch and kill the baby.
But you take off the foreskin. It doesn't harm the child,
but it does. But it shows that that you have
committed this innocent life to a covenant with with Jehovah,

(01:18:49):
with Yahweh. And it's also you know, the cleanliness aspects.
I mean, it's not as big of a deal now,
but back then, you know, you could it could. Infection
could happen because many of the of the ammonial Jewish
laws were to keep them healthy. God said, you know,
don't eat shellfish, not because he didn't like lobster and
shrimp he may he created him, but because they were
filter feeders. Back then, you know, if they spoiled quickly

(01:19:10):
so they could make you sick, you could die. You know,
same thing with pork, whereas you know, fit fish with
fins and scales were safer to eat because they they
weren't filter feeders. They were cleaner. And animals like you know,
cows and lamboo chew the cut, they had cleaner systems
because they were they only ate grass, whereas a pig
will than anything. Even though so it's not because pork

(01:19:31):
isn't delicious, God dang it is love pork, but in
our pork today is much cleaner. So he was just
doing those things to keep them healthy. And it was
the same thing with with the foreskin. That was a
health thing. It was symbolic for the covenant. And also
if you read later, God tells people I want you
to circumcisee your hearts. What does that mean? What is

(01:19:54):
circumcision of the penis? You're taking away skin that you
know doesn't really serve a purpose, it's it's extra, and
you circumcise it to be a part of a covenant
with God. You circumcise your heart spiritually. You're cutting away
the excess, the things that are not of God, that
are not part of God's covenant, that aren't benefiting. You
circumcise your hearts because God says that he would rather

(01:20:16):
you circumcise your heart than circumcise your your fallus if
you gave him a choice, of course, because the fallacy
is just a symbol circumcise. Circumcision was a symbol. Circumcising
your heart is spiritual. It's saying that I'm going to
cut away all the excess that is not of God
in my heart in mind, and not the physical heart,
our physical heart, obviously, But the heart is the seat

(01:20:37):
of your conscience, is a seat of where you know
right or wrong is coming from. So you cut away
everything that's not of God's that you're only acting within
the parameters of what God wants from you. That's what
he wants more important than cutting off foreskin. So that's
more or us the explanation. So I know, we don't
have a few minutes left, So.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
I'm wondering if this might be you might not have
an answer for this, and this might be late in
the game to ask this, But I do wonder why
certain Rabbinic Jews do the they do the like the
the you know, the mouth thing with the you know
when it's when they when they I think that's just
like cleaner cut they think, or is that what they think?

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
Maybe the tool I don't think there.

Speaker 6 (01:21:17):
I don't think there.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
You don't you know what I'm getting at here. And
it seems a certain I believe it's tradition. It's a tradition.
That's a hell of a tradition.

Speaker 6 (01:21:25):
But it's not it's not from God, it's not biblical,
it's it's a Rabbinic it's a tradition that they do
I don't. I don't know. It's tradition that they did
because the only thing the instructions were to take a flint,
you know, which is basically like an obsidian ston, which
is extremely sharp. Because you're supposed to do it quick,
you're not supposed to know. You're not going to torture
the poor child. And if you and you do it

(01:21:47):
on the eighth day, why because the eighth day is
when bidamin k is the highest level in the baby
and it causes the blood to cut the clock quickly.
So God knew what he was doing. That's why circumsitions
don't on the eighth day, because the child's blood will
clock quickly. So God wants us to be a wanted
to be as safe as possible for the child not
to harm them.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
Yeah so so, but but this is this is this
is true. So I sometimes there's a conflation here. Xero says,
I don't think they bite it off. They cut and
they suck, And I'm trying to, you know, ask the
question and the most gracious and least think what it is.
Is like, all right, so this guitar behind me, I
just hung up right before. How are you gonna make
this about the guitar before we.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Got on the watch this okay, on the call with you, ed,
And what I should have done was put anchors in
the wall. But I didn't, you know why, because I
didn't have them.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
So I just drilled.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
I drilled the stand into the wall, right into the
sheet rock, like it'll stay. I just didn't have the
tools on him. And I think that's what we're looking at.
It's like, you got the flint and the guys like
didn't bring it, and he's like, I got some teeth.

Speaker 6 (01:22:49):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
The thing is though, is like now we have like iodine. Yeah,
we've got a septic little ointment. But they're still listen that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
That's just weird. What do you know about Do you
know about the story about were they all agreed to
be circumcised and then something happened?

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
We were hearing, Oh.

Speaker 6 (01:23:09):
Yeah, there's a story. Is that? I think that is that?
I think it's in Genesus will party go over in
the genes and story. So what happened was and this
is again how the scumbag sons of Jacob they there
there was a group of there was a tribe. I
forget the name of the tribe. I'll get to them
and get to my study. But there were there was
a tribe of people who who wanted who wanted to

(01:23:31):
join the Israelites. But what happened was what they did,
they did a bad thing. They they they raped one
of one of the sisters whose name is Dinah. Okay,
guy raped her, but then he fell in love with her,
and he said, you know, I want to make her.
I want to I want to make her my wife.
You know I did wrong. I want to make her
my wife, and I want I want to officially join

(01:23:51):
your family. But the the the the the the the tribe,
you know, Reuben and Levi and all those guys, they
were like, you know, screw this. So what we're going
to do is we're going, Okay, if you want to
join us, you got to be circumcised. But they were
grown men, so they said, okay, we'll do it. We're
willing to. We we love you know, I love Dinah.
I want all my people to be part of your people.
Will be will just be one big, happy family. And

(01:24:13):
if that's what it takes, okay, well we'll circumcise our
So we so they went and all the men were circumcised.
But of course you know, they were laid up for
a while, and while they were laid up, the brothers
came in and killed them.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
All that's right, yeah, yeah, because it would be that
out of commission, I would have done the same thing.

Speaker 6 (01:24:30):
You think. I'm not saying like, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
I was just wondering, like, Gould, would you be up
mowing the lawn like a day or so later? If
you know. I knew a guy in high school that
had to get Yeah, you.

Speaker 6 (01:24:41):
Had to get he converted to judaism.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
No, no, no, he was just like I think it
looks better. He had No, he had like some sort
of infection.

Speaker 6 (01:24:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
He was on the baseball team with me in high
school and the guy had to get the clippy clip.

Speaker 6 (01:24:54):
He was down.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
He had to quit the team. What Yeah, dude, there
was like mid season of this happened. Is this a
serious thing? It's like that yeah, yeah, well you know
why because I had the ball surgery and they cut
me in the abdomen, you know, and and is it
you know, serious incision? Whatever I was, I was couldn't
walk for like a day or so, and then I

(01:25:15):
was up and everything was I was like an unbelievable recovery.
So I'm like, damn, you're gonna take snips it and
built different though, David.

Speaker 6 (01:25:20):
I am built different as but as an adult, apparently
it's it's it's it's much more traumatic.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
Shit man, All right, Well yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:25:29):
So you can get murdered. Yeah so it got this
whole again. I forget how many guys it was. There
was a ton of guys who got it done. And
these twelve men who came in and were able to
kill that whole tribe because they were you know, they
were down and out after getting circumcised.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
You know what I say, soft soft though they deserved
they honestly, they kind of deserved it. It's hard for
me to listen if you did that to their sister
and then like, oh yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:25:55):
But I would say the one guy who did it,
he might have deserved it. But the rest of the guys,
it wasn't like the gang raped her.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
It was there one like, yo, what what are you doing, Doug?
We didn't even we have a snipping coming up soon.

Speaker 6 (01:26:07):
Yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
You promised foreskins, you gave, you delivered, delivered two hundred foreskins,
a sack of two hundred Foreskins. Ed Mabray has delivered
them to us. We gotta wrap it up. I gotta
get the heck out of here. I got Parent Teacher
Night or meet the Meet, Meet the teachers. I'm gonna
tell them all about Foreskins. But before we go, can
you let everybody know ed one more time? Where can
everybody find you?

Speaker 6 (01:26:31):
Faith by Reason dot net So all my legacy material
is lots is about to go behind a paywall and
you have to be a member, but there'll still be
some stuff for free there. My patreon is, uh faith
reason dot I'm going patreon dot com slash Faith by Reason.
That's why I'm encouraging everyone to go. That's where you're
gonna be able to have access to everything I'm gonna

(01:26:53):
put you know, all my stuff is gonna be going there,
and uh yeah, I'm on x I'm putting up there
on Instagram, on YouTube and rumble there'll be some teasers
they'll be putting up there. But yeah, Faith by Reason
dot net Patreon dot com slash faith by Reason.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
All right, you heard him, guys, go and support ed,
and also go and drop a rating on his book
on Amazon. Because these little seasoners suck and that's really
I hate that, man. I hate people do that kind
of a thing. It's like you just go out and
exercise what little power you have and you don't even
take the time to read the thing. So thank you, Ed,
I appreciate your time. It's good to see you. And

(01:27:30):
we're gonna have to run it back and do it
again next week. We've got to stop having so much
time in between uh these episodes, we really do?

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (01:27:38):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
That's that's all we got, right, Tom, that's all we got.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Ed again, Thank you, and until next time, don't forget
to obey, submit, and comply.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
We'll see.

Speaker 7 (01:27:47):
It is a.

Speaker 4 (01:27:53):
Of the rooms.

Speaker 7 (01:28:01):
What they've seen, their eyes, what there is to see,
these faces of many position to trust the people cross
and they had

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
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