The Book of Daniel Bible Study w/ Matt Hepner

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's like a top lots of productions.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
We are being hypnotized. Why people like this news readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
We are in a country and in a world that
is being run by unbelievably sick people.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
And the chasm between what we're told is going on
and what it's really going on is absolutely Oh yeah, dude,
basten that one. It's like we all know what's going down,
but no one's saying what happens to the home of
the brief as much taking calling this now when no
one's talking about and the side every place and everybody's

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just walking around in the plasmon.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
And we can do it done in the grave, but
it lay we need to be ready to raise ou
well gone.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
To the edge of day. Everybody is sleep.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Only some are aware that the government released in.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Posing in there.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Well, there are regular jour welcome now, I do the intro.
You can't do it. I'm welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
Get that off the screen is very unprofessional. To another
episode of Nephelin Desklod, but the first of its kind.
I don't know what we're doing here today, but we're
back with a fan favorite before we even get into that.
I am David Lee Corbo aka the ravens Ka that
is top Lobster, the Father of disinformation. And we're forty

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five minutes late, so what that's all right? Actually, we
were going to start at three, is what we meant
to say. And so we're early.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Last week we did an episode. Was it last week?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Has it been away?

Speaker 3 (01:31):
We were starting in two pm Central? So that's right,
everybody that showed up now Mountain time. I don't know
what you're doing so early. But last week we did
an episode and uh, it was a unique one.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Was it last week? Has it been one week since
the day? Matt knows?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
One week? One week?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Okay, so one week since the day.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
We're a little late.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Last week that we went to Matt shop the standard coffee. Yeah, uh,
and we did something unique, We did something different. We
got out in the field. We were doing field work
and people really liked it. Did you see the responses
from that met.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
People in the shop are really excited about you guys.
I know that.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Well that's weird. I think they're not. They're not excited
so much as you were excited to tell them.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
I think.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
So he just keeps hyping us up, and they were
just smiling, going a little bit of They were like,
can I just get a machiato? Like a caramel macchiato.
He's like, where they're coming. So we're doing an episode.
You've got to see these guys. You got to see
a top lobster.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
On the macchiato. That's a change shop.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
I don't know what that.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
I don't even know what that is, honestly, I have
no idea. Well, on our end, let me tell you something, Matt,
we make a lot of content. People don't really say
a lot of nice things. No, they know, they say
a lot of mean things actually, And on your episode
it was unanimously nice things. Don't touch it, don't please,
don't trying to help you, all right, I don't want you.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
To do that.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
But people people said, I don't think there was one
bad thing said. And let me tell you something. We
had audio issues. It's us, which is just not good. Yeah,
it's just not good. So there's a lot of downside
to the content that we create. And the content we
created that day lacked on the technical side, not on
the content side.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Straight Bible.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
It was straight Bible, and people were they loved it.
So we said, I think there's some money to be
made here. Let's invite him back. And so we did.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
We brought him back, and uh, that's actrue.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
We're not making any money off this, but I know
that people are very excited.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
So so we're doing a bit of a Bible study
and and did you pick the book or who? Who?
Who picked the book that we're gonna start with today?

Speaker 3 (03:21):
So yeah, so Matt, Matt's been uh, he wants to
do the Bible study with us, and I was like, well,
what could we do it on? He's like, there's so
much interesting things in the Bible. Where do we even start?
And I was like, well, what do you read him?

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (03:33):
And you have a he has two separate Bible study
groups that we're not allowed to go to.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
One on each.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Is the one shot on my head chopped off?

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Or no, I don't know that, And I just removed
that shot.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah, we're not gonna have a shot anymore.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
We don't like that shot. I figured, Okay. Jack Bonson says,
audio sounds a little teeny tiny, little teeny right now.
I don't know what that means. Oh we sound any biddy?
Yeah tiny here we talking to the mic. Well, yeah,
you definitely wanted to bring them to your mouth.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
So we were talking about what what books should we
get into, and then we were talking about the other
Bible studies.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
We're in, like one I'm in, John, and the.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Other one with the homies on Fridays, but now it's
Thursdays because they're all high school football players.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Okay, okay, oh that's what you meant that, So.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
That one switched to Thursday. But that one we've been in, Daniel,
and then you said, yea, let's do Daniel.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, can I ask you something?

Speaker 1 (04:23):
After you you you talk to us, and then you
went back to and talked to your homies. Did they
go like, why are you hanging out with there?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Love you guys? They did?

Speaker 1 (04:30):
They say we should invite them to the and you said, no, no,
they're down. Oh okay, they want to.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Actually, Well, the only thing is it's Thursdays now, so
it's a school night and it's a it's a work night.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Wait, but you're doing Bible studies with kids.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, I mean there's seventeen. That sounds weird.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
That change my mind, but yeah that's good.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah they're seventeen. But but they're hard. These kids are hard, bro,
that's it.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
They're locked in.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Like some of the stuff they started saying when we
were going through the study was like wild, Yeah they're
locked in, all right, but they're good.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
But they want you guys to come over. But we
should do it on a Friday or Saturdays.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
I don't know. I mean, I don't have a bed
time necessarily. My child does have school in the morning.
Raven and Top, you guys haven't. But you know, they
could just be lying. No, I don't think they're lying.
I think they do. They do that all the time though.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
It's just uh, these are these are the issues of
audio stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
On Top, you have a net goo.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
That sounds good.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Maybe it's just Raven, I don't know cams who knows
are Let me let's check if our MIC's are selected. Uh,
and then we'll get started. We're gonna read the Book
of Daniel to day, I promise default road. Yeah, that's
about the best.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
We can do.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
I don't know what to tell you. It's good luck, guys.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
It's it's better audio than the last time. Well, we're growing.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Maybe, yeah, we're technically stopping. We're figuring it out.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Let's jump into the way.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Okay, I'm sorry. So you're doing the Bible study with
these kids. These kids are.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Hard, No, they are Those kids are raw.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
This is not like a playtime Bible study, because that's
the problem with kids, especially high school kids, like hey,
it's playtime, lah la lah.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, And that's a problem with us too. These dudes
are like locked in.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Like you start, we do it on the big couch,
and maybe we start off everybody's spread out, but you start.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Talking and then boom.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Every year this at your house.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, that's bold, and everybody's just locked in.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
That is the opposite of me. I notice we have
similar energy, he and I where we both we have
a little bit of a franticness about our speech. Yeah,
but where we deviate and among many things height and
things like that. Matt is a very personable individual. He's
very warm and friendly. I am very distant. I'm very distant.
Matt's learning this where he's been asking. He says, where

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is where is Raven? I've given him a punch card
to the coffee shop when everyone comes in that I
don't talk to If I if I had it my way,
if I didn't have a business with him, I wouldn't
talk to him, probably at all. Uh, And I'm I'm
like that I'm a very reclusive person. You're actually more
warm and friendly than I am. People might get this impression.

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They might get this impression from watching this show and
from seeing top Lopsis online persona, that top is the
one person who was shelled off and that I am
the one who is more warm and friendly. Not the case,
not the case of It's an inversion. It's a classic
case of inversionism. I don't want to communicate with anybody.
It's not that I dislike anybody. It's just that I

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could die never seeing another person for the rest of
my life. That is my wife and said, I understand
about the guy. He's an enigma and a retarded enigma.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
He he made me do like see the Bohemian Grove thing.
Oh yeah, this is a live event where a lot
of people come to and then like the people come
and he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
He just freaks out.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
And I was.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Like, I aimin rat who's probably not in the chat,
rubbed my back for fifteen minutes. That's not allowed it.
Let's get into the Bible.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Bible.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
I would I would like that. I was so the
book of day.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Do you guys have to do an intro or that that.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Was the intro, that whole thing that you just saw.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
This is Matt from the Standards call no, no, I
don't need the intro, you guys.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
He brought me a rockstar energy, which is probably a mistake,
I think, Matt the goodness sake. Ye. And he also
brought me a new Bible, by the way, because I
was saying, the chat knows that I have a tremendous
trouble reading, Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Same one that the young guys read, the NLT. It's like
plain English NLT is what I got.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
And I'm sure somebody in the in the chat will
screech about that, yeah, because they do. But the King
James version is very The English is so dense, the
old English, the these and thous and and yea, which
it could be yay or yee, but I pronounced it
yea because of Kanye hy e. I don't know how
to pronounce that phonetically anymore. So thank you for the

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New Bible. This is done in the simple man's English
and h and I'm very much looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
So so today we're going to read the Book of
Daniel at the Annuel.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
He's in Babylon.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Correct, He's in Babylon, Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
So this is the testimony of an individual who is
in alignment with Jesus Christ, but in one of the
worst possible places that you could have been. Maybe maybe,
I mean you hear bad things about that.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah, I'd say America five is the most dangerous place
in the history of the planet to be a Christian,
you think, so, well? Yeah, like, say you lived in
that time or any time period, especially like in Rome
and they're killing Christians And can I Can I bust
a fan or what do I?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Because you don't like it?

Speaker 3 (09:14):
You don't like the fan.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
It's just like Pages, he's a guy who likes to sweat.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
There you go, that's nice. No, So yeah, like, say
you lived in ancient Rome.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
You're getting thrown to the lions, right, you're in the lions.
Then you're getting like say you even get killed. Boom,
you're going to heaven in America. Like, how many people
get told that there are Christians that are not? How
many people get told that they're saved that they're not.
That's it's a gigantic amount of percentage wise too.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
But we're going to see here too, Like.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
All of Israel got taken into Babylon, they all got conquered, right,
So it happened in like waves.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
It wasn't necessarily all at one time, but we.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Specifically see the stories of the dudes that were hard
that didn't sell out. But remember Babylon's full of Israel.
Now it's full of the Covenant people with time and
like we got we got three or four dudes here
that stay strong and don't compromise to the culture.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
So that was probably happening then too. But I would
say on the scale.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
Of like deception, today, America is absolutely the most dangerous
place to ever be a Christian.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, I'd rather I always prefer the enemy that tells
you straight up that they hate you, yeah, rather than
the one that kind of like the wolf in sheep's clothing,
which is what we have. Like you know, I don't know,
the current administration has like their own.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Version of what seems to be like false Christians. Who's
the woman that's next to Trump? Right now?

Speaker 3 (10:32):
That's like this kind of like weird charismatic.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
You don't even know, bro, But all that's just like
jockeying for like votes, right, Like when you say, you're
like aligned with this church person right church who does trouble.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
We talk about it.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
If there's a guy named Brandon something or another. He's
supposed to be a modern day prophet who has these visions.
And he came out in October so so maybe like
four or five months before the assassination attempt on Trump,
and he said this dude was gonna have a shot
taken at him, that it was going to burst his
ear drum, and that Trump was gonna fall to the
floor and in that moment he was gonna be on
fire for the Lord.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
That's what he said.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
The dude said that ahead of time.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, and to be fair, we said that that was
gonna happen ahead of time.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Shoo, he was gonna get shot at and that he's
gonna survive.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
And then it's gonna be a head wound. Who was
gonna survive because they're trying to do something.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
I see what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
They're trying to do something, So all of that kind
of happens. It's not really his eardrum that gets burst,
it's a chunk out of his ear. And then that
that wound somehow miraculously goes away there's no chunk missing
from Donald Trump's ear. Very very strange. But he never
has expressed anything about Jesus Christ. And for a guy

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that's supposed to be on fire for the Lord after
this event, because he allegedly, according to Brandon whatever, perceives
it as divine intervention, that he was saved by God
the Father and.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
He goes on fire for the Lord.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
But since then you've not heard him say anything.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
He has venerated one of the angels.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
It's like archangel Michael or something like he prayed to
to the archangel Michael.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Wait, Trump prayed to the angel Michael.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Top Do you remember that? It wasn't that long ago.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
And it was like, because I'm looking for this moment,
I'm going like, is he going to talk about Jesus
Christ or is he going to We have Matt uh
uh doing the technical stuff for a cegment's good for.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
We just need to know is this accurate? Like Trump,
what do you mean? He was like, yeah, like talking
to people one day and they.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Just ce typing Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I could do it phone.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Here's here's the thing. And while we're looking for that
is like.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Uh, it's an arch angel Michael.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
I believe this dude comes on the scene in twenty sixteen, right,
this dude Trump, and uh at this time period, I
don't know if you guys remember politically speaking, Yeah, if
you like follow politics or anything, yeah, Uh, people just
they were just like, uh, like they're they're basically.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Like they were being handled by a ventriloquist. Like every
politician just was non human, right, and that's what he
was kind of. Then all of a sudden, Yeah, then
all of a sudden, this dude comes on the scene.
He's just talking like a human. Yeah. So twenty sixteen,
I saw.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
That even with the Republicans, like in the in the
very beginning, they have like twelve guys on the stage
like a Blue Tank Clan concert. There's so many Republicans
and Trump's out there, and you're like, what's going and
they're all talking like this politician speak, and here's this
one dude who's just talking like a person, and Republicans
tatum and Democrats hate him and the media hates them.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
At that moment, I'm not saying like is Trump good?

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Is Trump bad? I'm not saying like, uh, is he
a Christian? Is he not a Christian? In that moment,
I'm saying, God, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Like, how did this guy even get.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
On the scene. This isn't even possible. So a lot
of times when it comes to these guys, I'm not
really sweating it. If they're good, if they're bad, if
they're a Christian, they're doing no. I'm just saying, like,
what's the Lord doing through this person? That's that's what
I want to be aware of.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Did we Uh? Oh, you have it?

Speaker 1 (13:38):
You're pulling up on the screen trying to trying to
that I got it right here. I mean, it's it's
more of a Catholic prayer.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
But yeah, I don't know where you getting at with that.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
What I was getting at was this idea that Brandon
Biggs I think was his name.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
To anybody, say Brandon Biggs.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
You know.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Once again modern day prophet claims that Donald Trump's going
to be on fire for the Lord. Never an utterance
of the name of Jesus Christ from Trump. But there
is like this one thing that happens afterward. Right September thirtieth,
twenty twenty four, I guess it would have been afterwards
Saint Michael the Archangel defend us in battle former President
Donald Trump posted on X on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
So that's wait, what was that when Israel was fighting
that Iran? Because that would be trippy if it's that,
because I don't know it was Michael is referred to
as their prince, so that is that is a bizarre
thing if he did say that. I don't know enough
about it to like speak on it, but that'd.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Be intriguing if that was specifically his prayer to protect
Israel as their prince, because that's what he's referred to.
Like when we read and Daniel, we read about the
Prince of Persia, the prince of Greece, Michael is referred
to as Israel's prince.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
That's interesting. He actually goes on to say, b our
defense against wickedness and snares of the devil, that.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Would when they were going out of your eucause.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
I don't know the timeframe on it. Just September thirtieth,
twenty twenty four, was the.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
I was probably was that I lose track of time.
Was that about that time? I don't know when was
the whole October seventhing?

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Was that twenty three or twenty four, twenty four, so
that was right before the October seventh. Thing that's interesting,
the timing is is interesting on that Oh, he goes,
he goes, on, he goes, May God rebuke the devil.
We humbly pray and do thou, o, Prince of the
heavenly Host, by the power of God, pop up.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Cast into hell Satan. And this is what Trump is saying.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, and all the evil spirits who prowl about the
world seeking to ruin souls.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Amen, bro what Yeah, he said that.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
This is a prayer that dates back to eighteen eighty
four when Pope Leo. That's interesting the thirteenth.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
He's he's quoting the Pope.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Well, this is this is uh introduced a group of
prayers into Catholic literature. Liturgy, liturgy, excuse me, So this
is specifically a prayer that was introduced to Catholic liturgy
by Pope Leo the thirteenth back in eighteen eighty four.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
That's see.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
So that's my thing that I'm getting at, is like
we're talking about whether or not Trump, you know, a
Christian or whatever, or if he's catering to a base.
But all I've ever seen from him is is Catholicism.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
I don't I don't totally care to be I don't
mean like that, but just acially necessarily care if he's
a good guy, bad guy, Christian not Christian. Like, I'm
just intrigued. We're gonna find out right here, like what's
God doing? Yeah, well, hold on that one more thing.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Do you remember when he came out and he goes
beautiful Christians Christian?

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Do you remember that? Did you see that?

Speaker 1 (16:23):
It was really weird? What is this stuff to do
with Trump?

Speaker 2 (16:25):
We do?

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Like, well, that's because we were just speculating it under
the hold of Trump thing.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
You know, all right, we can move on.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Book of Daniel, let me just go. Yeah yeah, Bablon
like crazy stuff has happened. Uh. One of the kings, Edekaiah,
has like.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
The worst death any human has ever Experiencedekaiah, the King
of Babylon, like finally catches him, kills all of his
sons in front of him, and then rips his eyeballs out.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
You guys know that the Bible is raw and like
way too hard for most people. Yes, so like this dude,
he he was the king. Now he just had his
entire bloodline destroyed. They rip his eyeballs out.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
It's Game of Thrones, and now this dude the rest
of his life he's a prisoner blind, then imagine the
rest of his life. That's the last thing he saw.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Oh my god, that's the last.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Thing he saw.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Talk about like a tortuous way to deal with a
king like that. It's one of those passages where you're just.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Like, whatever I've been complaining about, it's not that big
of a deal.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Do we know what he was like as a king
before he had his eyes?

Speaker 2 (17:25):
He was evil? He was evil? Oh yeah, Like that's
an inting thing too.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Like I always say, like Israel today, you have to
read it the same way as like one King's two kings,
one chronicles, two chronicles, because like there's an evil king,
there's a good king, there's an evil king, there's a
good king. There's a dude who did good but then
he did some evil over here, he did some evil
in this, they did some good on that, And it's
just like that's what I'm saying, is like the leaders
come and go, but like what is God up to?

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, that's all I want?

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Moving pieces around? Yeah yeah, watch.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
That's what he does.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
In the third year of the reign of Johoa, Kim,
King of Judah, came Nebkanezer, king of abalon un A.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Jerusalem, and besieged it. Watch this because this is like
a major theme. This is like a major theme in
this book.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
And the Lord gave Jehoah Kim, King of Judah, into
his hand because I know some people are like, oh,
Israel and God will never do and He's always going
to defend it, yes, sometimes, but sometimes he turns.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
On them and he's their enemy.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, he's never.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
Not the God of Israel, but he turns on them,
like right here, he gives Jehoah, King King of Judah,
into the hand of Nebukanezer. And the prophets have been
telling them that ahead of time, Jeremiah and them had
been coming and saying, surrender to Babylon.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Go with him. It's the Lord's intention for because they
weren't keeping the Sabbaths.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
They had been like, uh oh, the year of Jubilee.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Yeah and so and so, four hundred and ninety years
had passed, and he said, okay, seven years for a
year of captivity.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
You guys are going to go into Babylon for seventy years.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
So the prophets were coming to them and saying, hey,
we're gonna get tooken out of the land, and they
were saying no, no, one state'd always sad man like
he would never do that, Like what were the Covenant people?

Speaker 2 (18:55):
He can't do that.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
And then prophets that knew the Lord and were speaking
to him were saying, no, no, they're they're going to take
you out of the land.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Go with them.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
Don't run the Egypt for help. Don't which is the world.
Don't run the world for help.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Just go with them. And they didn't. And they held out,
and they held out, and they held out.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
And then like this dude gets his eyes ripped out
after his whole family gets killed.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
That's uh, that's pretty brutal.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
That is rough. It's pretty brutal.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
It also like like you were saying about the Game
of Thrones thing, the guy j R. Martin, it's funny
how all these writers.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Pull from the Bible.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Oh yeah, they have a base, Like I mean, because
the Bible is one of the strongest foundational not just
faith based, but like archetypal based books in the world.
When you're looking for stories all right from here.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
That's why Lord of the Ring's crushing so hard.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
That's why it's a crime if you go to a
church and is boring. Yeah, because like bro the you
have the Ratus book on the planet with all the stories.
Why are people falling asleep at church? Totally unacceptable?

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well apparently I didn't go today, but.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
I did have a weird thing today. We were talking
about it briefly before the show started. Back this idea
of like I asked you because I'm not I'm new
to all this, and so these tongues have been happening.
They've been popping off at church last few visits. Everybody's
doing the thing, and I'm going, you know, apparently if
you speak in tongues, this is a biblical thing. This
is the gift of tongues, and there's a gift of translation,

(20:18):
and if somebody doesn't translate your tongues, then it's like
invalidated in some way, shape or form. So every time
somebody does the tongues, somebody else comes along and says,
you know, this is what what what are you's saying?
And today a dude spoke in tongues and it's like
a long it's like twenty maybe thirty seconds.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Wait, I understand the context was there, like music, the
music happen kind of came to like.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
A yeah, yeah, is that how it is possible?

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah? Yeah, that and that, uh you're catching the Holy Spirit?

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Do they call it not parties but sacked denomination and
that denomination that's what they do.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
They just like play the music. Yeah, yeah, and then
it kind of goes like the light music and.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
This everybody's opportunity to showcase their gift in that denomination.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
I don't know, and the other denominations are like, oh no,
that don't because the gifts ended in the in the
Oh okay, so no, no, I don't agree with that.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
I'm just saying like that, but but that really gives
a gasoline to the fire of the people who do
believe that.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, well, he did his thing and for like twenty
thirty seconds, nobody translates nothing, and then he translates his
own tongues. And I remember feeling like I was like,
I don't know the rules, dude, I'm like learning, I
don't know why.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
It's not That's not so much of the part that
concerned me, the part that what you told me happened.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Uh after about the the person.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah, there was a couple of things. So afterwards they're there.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
I don't know how.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Do I do this because I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Strange things happening, and the strange things happening in the
church strange.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
I've been around weird stumm in the church too, bro.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
There's a lot of weird stuff. So there's there's one
individual there who presents as a man, but you could
just tell is like, no, a man.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
I don't think so no.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
But then again has wind up at the room little
next to me, to the extent that I was like, oh, dog,
you gotta like a like a I literally I was like, oh,
maybe it's a funnel thing. I don't know what's going on.
I don't care. Okay, that's weird. I thought it was
a funnel. Honestly, if you saw this person, you'd be like,
no way.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Which you're looking at this human? Your say, it's definitely
a check yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
But nevertheless next to me, so like, I don't give it.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
I don't know enough about it. I guess that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Well, even me, I don't know enough about whatever this
individual is going through. In fact, some people are born
in a way that's a don't touch me please, uh,
you know, inner intersex.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
That's a that's a phrase. Okay, whatever, gets what is
going on?

Speaker 1 (22:37):
So this person, who already is kind of funky, I
look over and they're like kind of.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Doing this jam.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
We're like they're covering their mouths, right, And when you're
in this in this church, like a lot of people
are making noises that like sound like tongues.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
And then that's not that's not that's not untrue. Like
I mean, it's just my experience. I'm there and I'm going, like,
I hear a lot of like I don't even want
to make the noises because it feels crazy to make
the noises. But AnyWho, so she's he whatever is doing
this thing. And then all of a sudden, you still
one of these flies.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Oh no, this is weird, man, this is weird. And yeah,
it's weird, dude. And I'm like, hey, what's happened.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
I got to do a Bible study? What's happening here? Yeah,
And so it's a weird day at church, is what
I'm getting happens.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Man.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
But I guess you're allowed to translate because I looked
it up. I gave it a Google and Google was like, yeah,
you can translate your own your own jazz, and I go, okay.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, it's just unfortunate though, if you already have like
the show and the idea in mine and in this denomination,
you kind of do it like this and then the
dude throws out the tongue and he's waiting for his
homies to interpret.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Everybody's like, sorry.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Bro, because I'm mad at you anyway, and then there's
no interpretation and then he's like, well, I better interpret
it then, I mean, was it a relevant thing? The problem,
like we're talking about earlier, is like if you're speaking
in tongue, you're you're kind of saying, does say it
the Lord? You're saying like this is coming from the
Holy Spirit. Here's what I'm saying. Now here's the interpretation
in English, So bro, like exactly what God said that
came from God?

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Like that? Like, that's where it gets a little squirrely.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
So the translation was and is always something that has
biblical precedence. So it's like the translation in this particular
instance was I stand at the door.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
You know, it's it's me open the door, and it's
it's Jesus.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
I don't know how that's what you said.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
To the Laodici in church. That's what you say to
a church.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
He's already outside the church in the first century, the
Laodician church and the Book of Revelation, the Epistles of Jesus,
to the Seven Churches in Asia, the book the Letter
to Laodicia, he's already outside the church.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
But my thing is like, if you speak in tongues
and then somebody I'm not trying to like make these
people look bad or anything like that, but I'm just
I understand how people can be right. We're human and
we're kind of shitty. So if somebody speaks in tongues
and then nobody and you go, I'm going to translate
for this person. You could safely say no, nobody comes

(25:01):
to the Father, but through the son. Whoever denies the
son denies the Father.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
You could just say.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Something that's in the Bible.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
And then it was like, what's the point. It's already
in the Bible. Thing, but there's something that's like there's
a quote about that.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
It's like, if it's already in the Bible, why do
you need to say it it's not in the Bible.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Then they're contradicting it.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
There's something because what I'm waiting for is like if
somebody speaks in tongues and then all of a sudden
somebody says something that only resonates with an individual in
the and if you.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
The problem is counterfeit big The biggest issue is counterfeit
because in the American Church, a lot of people don't
know the Lord. Like if you're ever at the bank
and they're counting the money and they're just like this
with the money. Like when they hit a counterfeit, they
know because they handle money all day, right, like we
the way to not get busted by the counterfeit is
to know the Lord, like know the true thing. And
there's so much shenanigans of foolery in the church today

(25:48):
that like the problem is with like a Pentecostal charismatic
church is when that gets counterfeited, that.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Just is outrageous.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Like, well, if you go to a regular church and
they counterfeit love or faith or peace or like any
of these other things, it just doesn't look so crazy.
But like when tongus gets counterfeit, it looks it's like
the create and it makes everybody say, clearly, that's not real.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
I think that's what the we were trying to explain
to you what the Orthodox Church is what he was
looking at looking for initially, and it's very like it's
not that it's legalistic, but they have like a tradition
that is a long tradition of how they did. They
have the priests with the beards and the robes and
all this, and they do the catechism or it's similar

(26:29):
to Catholicism.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
But it's like, what did Jesus.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Say, you guys nullify the power of God by your traditions.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, that's interesting thing though, like when you get away
from the tradition, then you start to get some some
of this stuff.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
And I'm like the other thing about the.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Game, you should just be reading a Bible and chill.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
I feel like with all these people and the Baptists
say this and the Presbyterians say that.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Well, that's like if you ask me, I wouldn't say, like,
so I'm going to a Pentecostal church. I wouldn't say
I'm Pentecostal. I'm just going there because they have a
pretty big youth group. So it gets all these like
friends and everything, and I know that they're aligned in
the same way, and that's dope. And then this community
for my wife and everything. I mean, I already explained
that I don't talk to people, so for me, it's
I'm just going there. Like the sermons crush accurately.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
You know, say hi to anybody in the lobby, or
you're just like.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
I say hi.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
I go.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Of course, I'm a reasonable man, I say hello, I
say hi to people. But but like the you know,
our pastor is given this is like a five part
sermon so far on humility, on how you know, Jesus
is talking about who is great amongst you, the one
who sits at the table or the one who serves.
And he's like, in the world, of course the one
who sits at the table was great, but here not

(27:36):
the case. The one who serves is the greatest among you.
And and so like there's all this this teaching about
humility and everything, and I'm like, so far that crushes,
and some of the music crushes too. But you know,
every once in a while, I do want to say
one more thing on it, and then i'd I want
to get back to this because you know it's not
going to stop.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
I'm gonna stop after this.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
So the thing about needing your tongues to be translated
in order for it.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
To be validated, and then what what happens?

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Do you know if it's unvalidated, Like did they hiss
at you and then kick you out of the church?

Speaker 2 (28:05):
No? No, no, no, maybe, but okay, so tell me
what can be a private thing?

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Right?

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Like Paul said, if I speak in tongues, I edify myself.
So there's there's a totally valid like private tongues prayers,
there's a totally valid one.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, I hear that all over the h.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
I get if I remember it's a Corinthian letter where
he's explaining to everybody like this is how you do
it in order, and this is one of the things
if you're gonna do with a bunch of people around
with a big crowd, then yeah, there's got to be
an interpretation.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Okay, so there's not an interpretation. I don't know. I
don't to be honest.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
My only point is that if you're allowed to self translate,
which apparently the Bible says you are, then there's no
nobody's ever gonna invalidate. It's impossible to be not validated,
because why would you ever not translate your own discern
will invalidate but then yeah, it's just a tricky thing.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
It's a slippery thing. It just seems like it's It's
not that I disagree with that, but every time I
tell him, like, yeah, I go there, He's like, dude,
and it's just like, I know, I just.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Sorry to be that guy. Unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
It is in order for me to even be able
to speak from any I need to have the experience,
like I need to go there in.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
The word of God though, like that, Yeah, bro, if
you if you like walk into that hole, I meanblical
foundation your toast.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah. What I mean specifically is we say on this
show a lot that I think that the church is
dropping the ball one way or another. But who am
I to even say that? I say, you say that
and you've been there, Oh you have.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
You're like knocking me for saying that. No one saying it.
So here's it, let's go.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
The conversation that I had with you is that I
have already knocked the church adequately. I've done a great
job of it. I feel like I went a little
bit too far saying so I said, you know what,
this guy's he wants to go, I'll accompany him.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
We'll go we'll.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Sell a friend a friend, I mean the way I mean,
it sounds a little wild what's happening with him now,
But I'm not blame you for well, yeah, this is
his fault.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
So I just say, let me go to this place again.
Per perhaps the problem was me. I'll go, I'm gonna
sit back, I'm gonna look, I'm gonna lay back, and
the cut and then you know, but I know what
it is. But yeah, it's just I don't want there
there's a a three hundred people watching live. I don't
want to say this to them and then discourage them
from taking the pathway.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Because the fairpoint, fairpoint, it is a path I took right.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
I went there and then I led all the way
to where I'm at now. So I don't know these
people's path and I don't want to discourage something.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
I'll say this to three hundred. I'll be I'll be
good before God saying this. Get your foundation in the
word of God. Yeah, if you go on Sunday, great, great,
But it's a little dangerous to not have a foundation
in the Word of God. Go into the church and
then just kind of be trusting that it's all on
the up and up.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
That's that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Well, luckily I'm the highly skeptical person.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
The number one thing is being grounded in the word
of God. That's the number one thing. Let's do it, man,
Except so we're still in verse one, right, No, we
got universe two.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
You're wasting time with all the side took.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
The Lord gave jehoa kim king of Judah, into Nebukanezer's
hand with part of the vessels of the House of God.
Remember that that's gonna be relevant later, which he carried
into the land of Shinar to the house of his God.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
And he brought the vessels.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Into the treasure house of his God, and the king
spake on the aspenads the master of his eunuchs that
he should bring Okay, so the eunuchs, Yeah, your translation
is going to say it, Wait, it's like a servant.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Oh. I thought it was a like a servant in
the house.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
I thought was one that gets the Okay, yeah, but
I but that's why it's my understanding that the kings,
if you were serving in the house where the queen was,
you had.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
The master of the dudes without balls, Well you got
to trust them not just the balls, the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, they can't. I would I would have imagined you
would have bled out.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
And okay, they have waste.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
So that way, if you if you were working in
the king's house, you couldn't be trusted.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
With the queen if you had one. That's crazy, okay.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
So but anyway, that he should bring certain of the
children of Israel and of the King's seed and of
the princes. Right, So they so Batloon goes and takes
over Israel. They say, like, hey, who's the badasses in
this society?

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Like who's legit here?

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Children in whom was no blemish, but well favored and
skillful in all wisdom and cunning and knowledge and understanding science,
and such as had ability, and then to stand in
the king's palace in whom they might teach the learning
and the tongue of the Chaldeans. So they bring in
all the bad asses who are smart intellectually, and they
recognize spiritualities on them as well.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
They bring them in.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
They say, okay, train them, Let's get them out of
this whole Jewish thing. Let's train them in the ways
of Babylon. Let's let's make our kingdom powerful. Let's bring
in these guys and make our kingdom more powerful.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Well, let me ask you something. This is like, this
might be a little bit of a heretical question, but
when Jesus is born and he flees Bethlehem, they go
into Egypt. He's there for thirty years. Thirty years, He's
there for like most of his childhood, right, I.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Mean, he's definitely back by the time he's twelve, I think.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Right, because he grows up.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, I know that's not a brief thing. A couple
of years maybe, Okay.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
I was going to ask because there's like, there's that
section of him in Egypt.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
I'm like, what is he doing there?

Speaker 4 (32:56):
That's where people say he's get Well, Noah's prophesied, prophesied
that he would that he'd bring him out because because
God brought Israel out of Egypt. Yeah, he said, I'll
bring my son out of Egypt. And you know, so
we just thought, like, oh, he's just referring to the
nation of Israel. He was also referring to his son Jesus,
that he that he had in Egypt and brought him out.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Okay, because who was trying to kill him?

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Herod herod.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so they fled so that he
didn't die, uh, which is crazy. So he's like the
only kid in first grade when he goes back to town,
do you think about it?

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (33:25):
The only you know what, he's like this very unique
person in town, Like he lived in a real town.
Like he like he was so common of a person
that when he starts casting out demons, they say, isn't
this the carpenter?

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (33:38):
Like like he was so they had no concept that is,
they had no concept that he was god.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
They had no concept that he's even a prophet.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
They imagine, like your plumber just starts doing that.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, like yeah, they.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
Lived in such a small town, he said, the carpenter
not not a carpenter, was like the carpenter in town?
Isn't he the carpenter? Like what, like, what new thing
is this? What new doctrine? Is this what they were saying?

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Dang, because he was so common interesting and he lived sinless. Bro.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
He lives in a house with brothers and sisters and
he never sins hmm, this is wild, bro. Then he
goes to work. He never sends at work, he's a carpenter.
He never puts out shoddy work. He never like overcharges somebody,
he never sins and then.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, a lot.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
That's really all we know, except for when he's twelve
and he's in the temple and he gets left behind,
right right right.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
What do you make of it when people say, like,
you know this this whole era of Jesus' life, he
was in like the mystery schools and he was being
exposed to you never you never.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Seen those kind of ideas. Oh, he was with his father.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
He was alone with the big gnosticism.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
He had a scripture. He was reading the scripture. He
had to learn.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
There's ideas that He went to Tibet and he explored
this thing. He went to Egypt. He was, you know,
introduced to.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
These no Israel. He was an israel interest, and he
was sent to Israel. That's what he said. He said.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
He was like, I'm not going I mean, he did
deal with the Samaritans, but like he was like, my
ministry is to is to Israel. He was like, your ministry, though,
is going to be the other to the outermost parts
of the earth. When he talked to the apostles, when
he said I'm leaving, yeah, I remember he ascended so
he's resurrected. He walks around the earth for forty days,
talking to people about things pertaining to the kingdom.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
In a weird way. During that forty days. This is
a crazy thought.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
I'm not saying it's accurate, but you know, but like
during that forty days, do you remember he was like appearing.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
He was just coming into rooms and stuff.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Oh yeah, like walking through walls.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
And during that time, if people say he showed up
in Tibet, I don't know. I don't know the scripture like,
or maybe he showed up China.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
China seems to know about him.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
That'll be wild if he did.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
There are actually writings from like Chinese officials that say that,
like the I forgot exactly what it was. It was
like there was a certain amount of time of darkness
or there was a sign in the sky, and the
way they wrote about it said that the sun of
Heaven had died. Yeah, it's really fascinating. I wish I
still had that. There's actually a guy. I think the

(35:59):
person that posted this was the character Daniel versus Babylon,
which is which is interesting. But but it was like
there was a couple of writings that were in Chinese history.
They coveted and kept those texts for all that time,
and it was like, there was a sign in the sky,
and what did the sign in the sky mean? They
said they took it as like the Man of Heaven
has has died.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
It was like, whoa, who knows?

Speaker 2 (36:20):
I think I heard somebody say that recently, and I
was like, I don't know, that's wild. But if you
said he was showing up on other places, maybe.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
I was just asking because like the just the relationship
of like Egypt Israel and then it's it always seems
to be married, and there seems to be stuff coming
out of Egypt necessarily not necessarily good, but you know,
Jesus goes in there and then comes on. There's just
nothing written about it. So I was like, I wonder
what Matt knows. But all right, let's let's yeah, good point,
let's move on. Let's move on to the okay.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
So then uh, okay, So now we're getting into it.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
So this isn't just random immigration where they're just saying like, yeah,
open up the borders and bring everybody in.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, I bring the best of the best.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah, bring the only the best of the best, and
somewhere else. It doesn't say it right here.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
He says, like keep the poor in the land and
take care of the vineyards and stuff, like leave them
in Israel, take care of the land.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
They'll provide his food and stuff.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
I know that's super offensive, but like that, like any
sane nation, that's how they've always done immigration.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
This is how you get like the head of gold,
and this is why America is like what is like
Marie Clay mixed with iron, because it's like it's just
kind of garbage.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Oh, you're jumping ahead, I'm sure, but yeah, Okay.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
So the king appoints them a daily provision of the
king's meat and of the wine which he drank, so
nourishing them three years that at the end they might
stand before the king.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
So all these guys, they're.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
Saying, these are certified badasses. Let's give him the king's food.
Let's train them up, and then they can come and
present themselves before the king, and he'll decide if he's
gonna put him in his cabinet, if you will. So now,
among these were of the children of Judah, Daniel, Hannah,
and ii On, Michael and Azariah, under whom the Prince
of the units gave names for He gave on a
Daniel the name Belshazzar, and the Hannah and II a Shadrack,

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and Michael of Meshak and Azariah.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
A bed and to go right. So they're gonna get
fed by the king.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
And I understanding ry Daniel was one of those guys
that was like high in spiritual discernment, intellect and all
those other things, and they're trying to train him up
silent science, which is interesting.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Yeah, they were, they were they had intellect, they had
they were intelligent in their soul and remember were made
of spirit, soul and body. So these are dudes that
are intelligent in the soul, but they also have spirit
capability too, like they recognize that, like, especially the ancient
people recognize spirit realm stuff, like we don't today because
our society is so materialistic in America, Like we don't,
we don't, like we just think that's silly.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
But they were very hyper aware of that back in
the day. Daniel was a unich.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
No, no, no, okay, you guys got I was just checking.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Okay, but this is a big thing. This is a
big thing. But Daniel, this is verse eight.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
But Daniel purposed in his heart that he would not
defile himself with the portion of the king's meat, nor
would the wine which he drank. Therefore, he requested of
the Prince of the eunuchs that he might not defile himself.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
So he saw taking even food and drink from them
as defilement.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
Well if they're yeah, they've got poor jobs and hot
dogs on the table, Yeah, we can't eat that, Like, yeah, know,
this is defied and it looks like the wine too
at this time of his life, but.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
He knows that they're trying to train him up in
the ways of Babylon right now. Do you think this
is another crazy thought? Do you think at this time
period what we were dealing with like GMO.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Stuff like it?

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Because when God sends followed me, it was crazy Gods
when he sends Israel and he's like, yo, get rid
of everybody, the donkeys, the people, just get rid of him.
My assumption is because there's some kind of like I
don't know, Nephel and stuff going on, there's a bioengineering
of this this. I was looking at the donkeys on
the road and I was thinking, I was like, if
I took that house, should I kill those donkeys, like

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I just took it, if I just took it from me,
and like this is where my thought was because one
of my prayers before we started this show one of
the things that I did not understand, and I was like,
if if you want me to understand about God, I
got to understand the Old Testament why they had to
go in and kill these people, because I was like,
that just sounds like genocide, and.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah, and that's what a lot of people say. They
give a lot of pushback to the Old Testament because
of that.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yeah, because it's crazy if you if you're looking at
you like, so kill everything, like everything, leave nothing alive,
not even the goats. Well then you get presented with
the idea of the nefhelim and all that. I was like, yeah,
if there's like, you know.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Some genetically modified I see your point.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
It's genetically modified.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
I don't think the food was genetically modified. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
Well, I think far from it. Because then he says,
let's put it to the test. He's eating just vegetables
and they look great.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Okay, So I mean all right, yeah, I was asking
if they were the opposite.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
I think the opposite. Like back then, yeah, like the
food was good. Did you ever know the dude you're
like a.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Martial arts guy, right, yeah, did.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
You ever know the guy the Prince of Persia? He
was a UFC fighters. I'm thinking of the boxer anyway,
the Prince of Persia. He came in the shop one day.
Dude's legit, Like I just knew it was legit.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
We started talking. I love that game, and uh we.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Were just talking about everything they grow and I wan,
he's from Iran, battles all crushed. Our vegetables are fruit like,
everything grows so good. They're like the soil good and
and uh so I don't know, so like Daniel not
to jump the gun on this, but uh we get
down into uh we get down into verse twelve. You know,

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they say you have to be eating everything the king serves.
In verse twelve, Daniel says, no, no, we can't. We
don't want to defile ourselves. And he says, no, you
guys are gonna look terrible if you're not eating the
king's food. He says, no, let's put let's put it
to the test.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
This dude here, Yeah, that's my guy, bro, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
That's my guy.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yeah, the Prince of person. No, he's legit, dude, he's
fifties now, just shredded. He's just like in great shade.
That's awesome. But he was just talking about how good
the food is.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
But they would they were seeing it as offensive that
he wouldn't need it.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Yeah, they didn't want to defile themselves.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Yeah, no, no, no, I'm saying the Babylonians who are trying
to get him to eat it, and he's giving them pushback,
and they're seeing it as like this is offensive to
the kingdom.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Well, the servant is saying just specifically that you're gonna
look terrible, bro, Like, what do you mean You're gonna
eat just vegetables?

Speaker 1 (41:50):
And oh oh, he's saying like you can't be a
vegan body builder.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
Right, which I don't think Daniel was because later he
goes on a fast, not a complete fast, but he
doesn't eat meat and wine. So I'm not saying this
forever because people are like, oh look and Daniel it
says they only need vegetables in your wife's carnivore, Like,
what do you like?

Speaker 2 (42:05):
How do you defend it? This game? Yeah, it's like
this is like the short time and That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Like the vegetables back then, who knows how rat of
vegetables they have back then that we don't even know about.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Dude, you're going to you're going to grocery store in America.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
The protein was bioavailable.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
There's like so little to pick from.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
Bro Like in Babylon back in the day, they could
have had like the rattest foods with like tons of protein,
and some of the vegetables like who knows, man.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Do you think quick aside that in the garden they
were what did doctor he's not a doctor at all,
homeboy who does Old World of Florida. He's not doctor
Narco Longo. I'm just gonna call him Narko Longo.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
I don't. I don't have enough respect to call him doctor.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
But he says that you know, Adam and Eva fruitarians,
that all they ate was fruit, and that that is
our natural state. But of course we're not geared that
way anymore. Something happened during a fall away well yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
I mean when Noah gets off the gets off the arc,
God says, all right, start.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Eating the meat.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Yeah. So before that we were just going hard on veggies.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
And fruit, all right, in a perfect world, man, I
mean you probably could.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
But if you went vegetarian or vegan today, you know
much Glacis say, you'd be eating Dude, you be eating
tons and tons of poison Broye from Yeah, when I
eat grew all your own, then you'd be all right.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
But bro, if you're eating the stuff in the store, dude,
it's covered.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Tastes like plastic.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
So Noah was Noah was basically vegetarian before.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Uh, it looks that way.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
It looks that way like they weren't eating meat if
I remember right, Like they weren't eating meat up until then.
Then after the flood when he gets off the boat
is when guy says, yeah, go ahead and eat the meat.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Now.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
You know what this is what I'm thinking about, is
like because all this stuff is probably like neffle eyes. Man,
this probably they were probably just like mixing animals, like
did you see the rabbit with the horns and the
tentacles on his face?

Speaker 1 (43:41):
You didn't see that?

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Oh did you send me that? Or this is like
the past couple of weeks something about it? I mean,
I don't know that it's like a disease that got
loose in Colorado or something something.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Like that, deep basis my mom sends me sk.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
We talked about this. We talked about this on Franks
Frank since is right there this guy's got like horns
on his head or something like that.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yeah, I don't know, bro.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
You know it must have been crazy wear stuff on
the planet that doesn't even look real.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Well, we're in the days of Noah and we're doing
all this genetic manipulation. A fact that I think I
think that we're back, baby, We're back.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
All that I mean Jesus pinpointed two time periods, right,
he said, as it was in the days of Noah,
so it will be at the coming in the Sun
of Man.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
As it was in the days a lot, so it
will be at the coming of the Sun of Man.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Yeah, I mean when when Noah was told to eat
the animals and he was probably like, dude, what, like
we've never what And then when he did it, he
must have been like, this is good.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
You made them delicious. They've been delicious this whole time.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
That's crazy. God made them delicious and didn't tell anybody.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
And who knows, like what, dude, bro, who has any
clue what that world looked like before the flood, especially
in the garden, but even but even outside the garden
and after the curs like pre flood, who.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Has any idea what that food was like? Bro, it
was like was.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
There just food growing everywhere that was like super healthy
and nutritious, and it was those whole foods and weren't
making pop tarts you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Got the are making like Mac and Hit don't make
him the same anymore. So Daniel was a vegan bodybuilder.
He goes in so yes, like I'll show you.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
But this is the big point, Like, this is the
big point, especially when we did this with the boys
the other week, because some of these kids are getting
ready to.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
Go off to college and they're like, yeah, I'm gonna
always be a Christian. I'm like, okay, but you boys
are in the long game.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yeah. We'll always try to tell him like that's great,
you went to camp, you're on fire. I love that.
That's nothing wrong with that. But you've got to understand
you're in the long game. Yeah, yeah, the long long game.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
That's the thing.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Like when you're dealing with seventeen year olds, it's like
it's almost like, man, you have no idea what life's
about to throw at you.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
But you just tell him that yeah, and just make
sure they know and you show him this passage because
this is the key to Daniel's entire life.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
He's like a teenager at this time when we read
the whole book. He's in Babelon the whole time till
till the Meads and Persians come and take over Bablons.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
That's seventy years, bro.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
So he goes from this time period, he's like a teenager,
I think, is what the thought is. He lives another
seventy years. He's in all these different kingdoms that come in.
They all go, we want Daniel in the cabinet.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
They all come and say it with Daniel one of
those dudes that lives like oundreds of years.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
I don't think so, don't think so.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
He was just oldest oldest.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
But this is the key to the whole thing. Verse eight.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
Daniel purposed in his heart. This is the key to
the whole book, bro, Like, this is the whole thing.
He didn't just get into Babylon. Again, there's who knows
how many tens of thousands of Jews are in Babylon
now right. This is the one dude who made a difference, right,
he purposed in his heart ahead of time.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Like that's the whole key to everything.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Bro, Like doesn't mean like he made a conviction, yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
He said, Like, but but it's funny because this is
a food thing, which people think isn't a big deal.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
But like Adam and Eves sin with food, that's true,
Like jesus first temptation in the garden or in not
in the garden but in the wilderness. Food was in
regards to food. Yeah, you know he said, no, no,
I won't miraculously make bread for myself.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
I'm gonna miraculously make bread a little bit down the road,
but for everybody else.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
But I won't do it for personal gain. But it
was a food issue.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Food being like the ultimate desire of the flesh.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
I mean we talked about it before, right that, Like
demons will hunt us around the same way we hunt animals.
Treamans will haunt us around our cardinal desires for food
and sexual perversion.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Like that's like, that's how they What do.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
You think about those who say that the transgression in
the garden was of a sexual nature and the language
is like masking that.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
I don't know what did St. And Satan bone.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Eve is like, that's the idea, and I would have
been that Stan and then well there's like a rare there's.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
A David one because with the microphone, you gotta, we gotta,
we got to do one at a time. Okay, okay, professionals,
No good, it's good, all right, I expect more from you.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
You're doing great.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
No, No, he's just exciting because his Bible, it's very exciting.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
I relaxed. Okay, all right, so he'll be here. He'll
be here every week. He said he's gonna be every week.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Every week.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
We're every week.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
We got to remove the chairs. If we do, it's
we'll figure it out. It'll be yeah. But okay, so
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
So there's a rare instance where a woman can be
become pregnant by by two individuals and bear twins.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Yeah, I already know where you're going. I think no,
but I think I need stuff on at where it's like,
uh so the one so Cain was actually the child
of Satan, yeah, certaincy, and then Abel was actually the
kid of Adam. They just both boned and she got
pregnant by both of them.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
There are like I think like eighth and eleventh century
text and then it's like way after the fact, obviously right,
but that are people have these convictions and they believe
that that was the case. And I forget exactly what
those texts are, but it came up in the Caine
thing that I'm looking into. Okay, yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
A crazy I'm telling you, man, we're never going to
get through this book.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
But okay, well.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
I don't like to automatically just brush stuff off and
laugh at it.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
But I don't know that one's a little that one's
like fair enough.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
The idea, the idea of Cain being the oh no, no,
that's a whole nother too much.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
He's just a son of Adam. He's just a son
of Adam. And there's wickedness in us. Okay, you know
what I'm saying, Like Cain is a human, he's a
son of Adam, he's a decendant of Adam, and there's
wickedness in us. And I want to it'll be a
little careful trying to pinpoint it. Even with the Nephale,
which which happened before the flood, but like the issue
was man Man's Rand's heart became evil, like it all

(49:06):
comes back to man. Everything was given to man, so
it always comes back to man.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Right right, Yeah, see that that's another interesting idea because
like when we come at it from like, well, there
they were like Nephilim all over the place.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
And should I have not gave him the energy drink?
Sorry for cutting you.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
It's a lot probably energy though, Yeah, next time we'll
give him a sedative. It may sleep, it's gonna be. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
The thing is is that, like it's just the way
the mic setup is. I'm just like, all right, we
gotta be a little more uh mic conscious. But it's fine. Yeah,
Like with the show, a lot of the times we'll
talk about the idea of the nephilom and it's like
it's almost like a cop out to be like, well
there was like mad Nephlum on the earth in those days. No, no, man,
not just the because some people like to go sons
of Seth and then the transgressions of man, how wicked

(49:50):
man was, And I was like, well there's another side
to that, right, there's like there's Nephelim on the earth
also they had to be wiped out, but yeah, certainly
both why not both?

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Probably both, you know.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Definitely both. Definitely. Man, man, it's it's just.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
Like now, like people be like, oh, you don't understand
I had a demon. You're held responsible for if you
have a demon.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Yeah, oh yeah, you're You're the one that's giving permission.
You're the one who's engaging in the thing that's opening
the doorway.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Yeah. Yeah, So not to go down a major rabbit trail.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
But if those nephiloms that died, they're party angel, part human,
like an angel supposed to exist forever. If human dies,
there's a place for their spirit to go. Well, if
a party angel part human dies, there's nowhere for that
spirit to go, right.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
They thought, is those are the roaming spirits. They're hanging
out here, they're voring people. They have to get inside
people to act out their loss.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Uh Extra canonical text Book of Enoch.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Yeah, your name. As far as as far as validity,
I mean, the Bible references it.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
So but a lot of people say, no, no, it
was excluded for a reason.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
Yeah, but if the Bible references it, then I mean,
like think about in Jude it says that uh Michael
fought with uh Satan over the body of Moses.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
We don't have that story.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
But the but Jude tells that story like everybody's familiar
with that story.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
That story is found in Enoch.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
Or even like Janis and Jambers, like Paul's talking to somebody,
he must be talking to Timothy. He talks about how
Janis and Jambers, how they were, Like that's how it's
going to be in the Last Days. Well, Janis and
Jambers aren't named in the Bible, but those are the
names of the magicians in Egypt that's named in Enoch.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
I don't know, so say, Enoch is this whole book.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
I don't know how I've read it, but I can't
remember how like how many chapters or how many verses
it is if there's one sentence that's wrong and it
can't go in the scripture, like it's I don't know,
in the Wisdom of God. It was found in the
Dead Sea scrolls though you know what I mean, it
was found like it's just it's just this book that
it seems like the Bible writers assume that people that
were reading the Bible were already familiar with it.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Seems like that. It seems like that interesting. But you
can hang your entire life on the word of God.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
If there's no Enoch or nothing else, and I don't
need anything from Enoch to validate like Nephilm, like that's
it was like totally clear.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
As you follow Israel and.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
They come out of Egypt and then where they go
on the way to the Promised Land, they're like wiping
out og King of Basian, like you got, you got
that scenario, you got refem, you got you got tons
of nephilin tribes and then you end up, yeah, wipe
out everything.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
It's interesting because people really fight on that one, not
not Enoch specifically, but like the Nephilam in general, the
idea of giants or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
They dig up the bones, bro, you can't really say that.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Well, we were talking about something recently and the Smithsonian
came up and it was like, what about the Smithsonian?

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Where was it They.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
Got the bones and they hide the bones and yeah
or no, because the because the thing is is like
everything had my chance. They don't call a chance, they
call it evolution. Everything came my evolution. It's just like
everything was little, then it got bigger, smarter, which is
exactly opposite of how God explains time and another. But
but you know, so if you have like big people

(52:56):
in the past, it doesn't fit the narrative.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Okay, all right, all right, so let's let's get.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Okay, so he purposed in his heart right, So it's
a food thing which we have. Like think how many
people are enslaved of food today? Bro, Like, imagine if
you have to tell people one hundred years from now, like, oh,
we had an epidemic.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Man, it was an obesity epidemic. You don't understand. There
was pork chops and ice cream.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
It's going to be so crazy to like explain to
people that there was an actual epidemic of sickness in
our nation because we had so.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Much food and people couldn't control it. So, like, that's
one layer to the scripture. I know some people don't
like this.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
They say, oh, no, the scripture only means like one thing,
But I think there's multiple layers to the scripture. And
so like as we're talking about you know they're going
through they're wiping out entire tribes and killing people in
the Old Testament.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
That application isn't to us today.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
That's clearly not to us to be killing people like
ours has turned the other cheeks stuff like this, Well.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
There is another application to that.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
It's that we're at war with the spirit realm now,
like our fight is not against flesh and blood, but
it is against principalities and powers and.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Rulers in high places now right.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
So like you take that natural thing that we learned
through the scripture, and there's a spiritual application to it.
To me, it's the same thing here, Like there's a
natural application with the food, but the spiritual application is
what are you feeding your spirit on? This is the
big thing and this is what made him different. He
purposed in his heart he wasn't gonna feed on the
same thing that the world fed on, and the world
was gonna tell him like, oh no, man, if you

(54:15):
don't feed on what we feed on, you won't be cool,
you won't fit in, you won't make money, you won't
whatever he said, Let's put it in the test, because
the Man of God will always say that.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
That's an interesting move too. To practice any sort of
restriction in what I imagine is a city of abundance,
much like New York City, where it's like everything you
could want at any given moment is right around the corner.
To do any sort of restriction like that is it's
a it's a spiritual challenge. Amen.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
That's so you guys, I don't know, maybe you probably
haven't run into this yet, but maybe if like God
gives you light on a thing, then you start to
hold other people accountable for the light that God has
given you. If God's like explain something to you and
giving you revelation and inside on thing, maybe you guys
hopefully never go through.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Yeah. I don't do that. I was like super judgy
on other mews.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
Yeah, just like stuff the Lord showed me like for
me person only, Like you're talking about like discipline, like
that's the core of the word disciples.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
I wouldn't do it because it was like only a
few weeks ago. I wasn't So how could I then
be like.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Oh, it's been done to me, right. I think we
had a private conversation about that sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Sorry, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
He does that was constantly no.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
No, it's like the I mean, I don't know if
you're comfortable of talking talking about what you said before.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
About talking about anything.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
Yeahs no, he had your your your drug usage and
then you were still in the church actually telling people
that you did this thing, and they're like judging you,
but they have no real uh way of bringing you
out of it, only to tell you like that you shouldn't.
So it's like, yeah, I don't know, it's it's not
if I have those convictions for myself, but those are
probably for myself.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
I could show you.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
What I do, how I live, and then if you
want to kind of copy that after, that's the right thing.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
That's the right way to do it.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
But it's slow.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
It's like lead by example. Yeah, but I didn't have that.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
I was like a junkie and yeah, and that story
I had told the whole like Bible study group that
I was still snorting oxyconts and they were just like terror,
which I get, but yeah, they didn't have anything to say.
And I was like, oh no, it's that's not what
you put in your body that makes you unclean, it's
what comes out right.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Oh, that's fascinating.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
And then the Lord checked me on it himself, like
he checked me on it. And then I never did
drugs ever again once we had that whole encounter. But
I did have an issue where the Lord was dealing
with me about not eating fast food.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
This is gonna be stupid, I'm to say, it anymore. No, Yeah,
it was just a disciplined thing.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
It was just like, bro, this is like a careless,
frivolous lifestyle, Like you should be different with your money,
different with your food and what you're eating, different with
being prepared with food, and don't have around with food
because it gets out of control quick, right, But I
would be judging on people who eat fast food and
like stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
That wasn't the only thing.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
And the Lord had to finally deal with me and
be like, bro, I didn't tell them that, Like, I
didn't talk to them about that.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
So there's there's stuff in the scripture that.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
We hold each other accountable for. But if there's this
thing the Lord's trying to talk to you about, you
can't run around. I can't run around and demand that
other people, you know, do what I'm saying that works
for me?

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Does that applied to like the plank in your eye
kind of a deal where it's like, yeah, I have
that issue with food in the big way because I
used to be homeless and so the idea of like
not uh finishing all your food is like a huge
issue for me.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
So ill I will like saying, if I go, I'll.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Clear my family's plate, like if they're gonna go scrape
something in the garbage, Like, no, I'm eating all of
the food that's on this table. I respect that, and
I but I also go like sometimes it's just like
something snaps in me and I'm just.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Eating everything, like everything.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
I'm like going through my wife's like we ate dinner
and then you had like several other things and you're
still and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
That because we have an abundance.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Yeah, it can't happen without the abundance, right, Yeah, Well,
and that's what this is what we're talking about here, right,
So is there an abundance in Babylon as well?

Speaker 3 (57:32):
This is why people are kind of freaking out over there.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
No, there has to be right, Yeah, Well it's the
king's pal. That's something the average American lives, like how
a king used to live. That's all.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
That's all I'm trying to say. Like, we walk in
a building, like a giant building.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
There's a refrigerator section, freezer section, not refrigerator. There's all
this stuff.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Bro, you have this kind of three refrigerators out there.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
It's wild. You have a box that has disgusted.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
He looked at you and you just like go around
and you shove stuff in there from all around the planet. Bro,
and you just get to the thing and you have
like you pull a card out, you go like this. Yeah,
you come home, you have food from all over the planet, and.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Then you eat part of it and you go throw
the rest of the track.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
The only people who live like that was King's bro
ever in history.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
And you talk about like poor people in America, It's
like even poor people have like that much food.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
We went to a restaurant yesterday and Top didn't finish
like his piece of chicken.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
And you know what I mean, got it. I literally
like it took the chicken and I ate.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
It well because I mean I think I I've learned
a lesson of when I'm done eating, then I just
stop eating that. Yeah, oh I can't.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
I need to go box. I'm a to go box.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
Yeah bro, Yeah, I bring it to go. I'll eat
it later, I unless David ate it from me right there.
But you know, it's like that's the thing about what
Daniel's doing. I guess, uh, it's it's purpose. Well, so
he's he's like showing this self control, especially with the food. Yes,
I'm trying my best to do them. People get mad
at me. They're like, you're not like my mom's in
the chest's like you're not eating. I was like, I ate,

(58:53):
I ate his mama loves out of your mind. I
ate as much as I wanted. She's right there, she's awesome.
She's saying that they didn't have a particular hot heart
for God.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Those people.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
But uh yeah, I'm when I'm done, I'm done. I'm
trying my best. Sure, although sometimes I'll still be there,
you know, But most of the time, I'm like, yoh, bro,
I'm done. And when I'm done, I'm done, and we'll
put it to the side.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
I think it's cranky, but I like this dude too
because he's like being faithful and a small thing, right,
Like I was just talking about this as somebody the
other day. When I first got converted, I couldn't talk.
Like now now you see, I just can't stop talking.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
But back then, I'm I couldn't. I couldn't talk, man,
I mean, you couldn't talk. I was just an idiot.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
I had no education, literally never stopped me and did
a ton of drugs and I was just like stupid
and didn't know how to carry like normal conversations with people. Yeah, yeah,
and so I wanted to preach the gospel, but I
kind of couldn't.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
But I was always on job sites.

Speaker 4 (59:40):
I was a flooring installer, so I don't know if
you guys ever use Porto pots on construction sites.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
But it's like the most heinous like racial slurs and
sexual when.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
You're writing scripture. Lost.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
Yeah, I used to always write Matthew twenty eight twenty
Jesus said, I'm with you always, even until the end
of the world.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
And I just feel like the Lord knew my heart.
He was like, bro, I know, like you want to
do something like you did this little Yeah, I wrote
on every dude to every porter pot.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
I love that. I was ever in.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
I wrote that because that's all I have at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
You never know what that's actually vandalism, So could actually.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
No, No, it was only if if there was a
there was one that was not written on, then I
wouldn't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
But if they already had all.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
The racials like yeah, like usually next to a swastik guy,
I would write it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Because I was going through something one time and uh
and I and I said, I was really going through it.
And long story short, I stumbled upon these words inside
of a closet and it said come what may, and
like somehow that little phrase like really lifted me up,
and it was like, it doesn't matter what happens, like
this is life.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Let whatever happened happen. And uh so, yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Never know who that's going to help. That's it could
be huge for a lot of people who were I just.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
Thought I was a rapping because I was like, who
else can make that promise?

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Yeah, I'm with you always in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Yeah, yeah, no, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
Okay, so he says, okay, prove your servants ten days.
So they so he puts it to the test and said,
a man of God, I'm not going to go hide
behind something or pretend like my God's real, but really
I don't believe.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Let's put it to the test, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
So they put it to the test, and they come
back and they say, these guys look just as good as.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Anybody who is eating all the king's meat. They said, okay,
you passed the test. You don't have to defire yourself
with the poor chops and the hot dogs.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
There you go baste.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Okay. So seventeen.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
As for these four children, God gave them knowledge and
skill in all learning and wisdom, and Daniel had understanding
in all visions and dreams.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
So that's what I'm saying, dude.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
These guys had like have like soul, They had like
soul strength, and they had spirits.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
So that's interesting. So as for these four children, God
gave them knowledge and skill in all learning and wisdom,
and Daniel had understanding in all visions and dreams.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Yeah, this is like next level wisdom.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
That's the thing like I wish. So whatever, I guess
I'll just dox myself. That's my name is Daniel.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
That's holy wait, holy wait, who doesn't crazy come after me?
Docks me?

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
Brow whatever. But David has these dreams, and then I'm like,
should I be do me a favor?

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
There? Do you see that?

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Don't press it by that box? No, the box on
the right hand corner, that one right there, Yeah, press that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
One, gotcha.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
David got these dreams. You never interpret them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
I can't, Daniel. Yeah, okay, you said David. David. Yeah,
I'm not Actually.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Yeah, he's not.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
That's what my last names. When I come into the
coffee shop, MAT's like where's the raven?

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
I like that, that's that's really nice, unnecessary level of respect.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
But people love this guy. Yeah, but they say he's
very distant, like he's in the room, but he's not
in the room. But I love them that. Yeah, that's
how I live.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
He's got the dreams and I can't I can't interpret him.
I'm just like, that's a crazy dream. Or when he
tells me I got a dream, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Like, you know what though he says that, but if
I tell him, like if I call him up and
I go like, I have a dream, He's like, what's up?

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Like he locks in.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
He's like, because that happened when I told you when
I cried like a woman on the porch and I
called you and I said I had something, you know,
something spoke to me, and you said, what tell me
old dreams? So like Daniel never missed.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
No, that's why. But we see what his secret it was.
It was his secret, wasn't Daniel was God? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Okay, right, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
So God gives them like next level wisdom, like James
talks about that there's a wisdom of the earth and
there's a wisdom from heaven, like there's there's two different things, right, So,
like this is another issue in the modern American church
is like you get intellectuals just like preaching because they're smart.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
There's there's a smart people like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Jordan Peterson, Like I have you heard his sermon from
like Genesis? And I think he also has the Book
of Revelation.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
Now I don't know, but yeah, maybe that I don't know.
I don't know, I never heard it. Like it's an
intellectual yeah, yeah, and it's it's.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Good on a level.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
But I'm like, but then, knowing what I know now
going back listen to him, like you missed a lot,
dog a lot most of it, but it's it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
I think it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Of spirituality, there's the thing people ask about, like who's
in the library?

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
Like how do you pick who's the books in the library?
And I guess, Like the easiest explanation I could give
is like anybody I've read and I'm reading their stuff,
I'm like, dude, this guy knows God like that, like
that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
I don't even care. What is theology is what is doctrine?

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
Because they everybody in the library is going to have
different doctrines and different theologies. One guy's going to say,
pre trib, another guy, post trip, mid trib, another guy
doesn't even care.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
But but like you're reading the guys.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
You're saying, like, dude, this guy knows the Lord. Like
that's all I care about. When somebody's talking, that's all
I care about. I don't want to argue that the
Pharisees had flawless doctrine. Flawless doctrine. Jove's buddies have flawless doctrine.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
You couldn't.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
You couldn't beat those guys in argument. Any of those
guys didn't matter. They didn't know the Lord.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
That's what That's what you had.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Right when you're you're like defending your like snorting oxy,
like when you're right there, holdestly, I could defend this,
but it's like, well what am I doing though? You know,
like I could defend bad actions.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
No, I was wrong, that was wrong, but I thought
it at the time. I thought like, no, man, I
could just keep going. It is all I knew, bro,
since I was thirteen, Like that's the only way of life.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
I knew. It was like just being high all the time.
So it was like there was no other option. I
was like, what do you mean I'm just like you.
It's just some high all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
What some people say that Satanists know the Bible better
than you do kind of a deal, right, It's like
they understand, they know it all this, so they're going
to use it as an argument against you. They can
sit there and argue points.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Back what Satan did with Jesus in the Temptation bro right,
he quoted scripture to him. They went back and forth.
It is written, it is written, it is written, it
is written.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Right right exactly, all right, let's let's continue, let's continue.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
So all right, so he's got he's got next level
wisdom and understanding at the end of the days. Uh,
nobody was like these four guys, I'm not going to
read the whole thing in the King James, because it
goes it's just wonky, you know what I mean? Like
it makes sense to me, but most people just get
lost when you're reading able.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Yeah, yeah, well I appreciate this. This is like the
Book of Daniel breached.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Yeah, so verse twenty, this is this is the last
of chapter one.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
And in all matters of wisdom and understanding that the
King required of them, he found them ten times better.
Than all the magicians and astrologers that were in his realm.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
One more time, can you say, one more time.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
In all matters of wisdom and understanding that the king
inquired of them. So King Nebukanezer, they brought him before
on me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
He found Daniel and his homies ten times, ten times better.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
He found them ten times better than all the magicians
and astrologers that were in all his realm. Remember these
dudes surround themselves with spiritual people.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
Yeah, yeah, you know, like they don't have astrologers and
magicians around because they're like their accountants.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
It doesn't anything do with the natural, like their spiritual advisors.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
Yes, yes, because they recognized the spirit realm back then.
But he sees these dudes, he says, they're.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Ten times stronger.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
But dude, if all the books like this is a
long game, watch how much this guy kind of flip
flops a little bit and he's like, oh, these guys
are the best, and.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Maybe he kind of forgets. Then he kind of comes back.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
Yeah, that's interesting part, Like he's constantly forgetting, and then
he's kind of like, oh yeah, a long game.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Bro, it's the long game. Daniel's there for seventy years, bro,
and we have like six chapters, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
We read this like chapter what happened on Monday, chapter
two on Tuesday, on Wednesday, That's what I said.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
We were trying to find it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
I was like, this is a very short book, not
very long.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Who knows what all was happening. Probably in the middle
of all that they have like their Epstein things, and
Trump did this, and like whoever else in the news
did that? Putin and Trump are in Alaska, just just
meaningless stuff that everybody just got caught up on, like
that none of that mattered, Like this is what you
need to know. Yes, this is what the whole Bible is.
God's like, Bro, I got stories for days.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
Yeah, I could tell you stories from like all over
the but these are the ones I want you to know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
That's when people go like, oh, other texts have all
this stuff and you're just relying on the Bible. It's like, well,
this is like if it if it had everything, it
would be there would be a big book. Very happy
to announce.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
I found the version of the Bible that we usually
look at with ed because I used a different browser.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
But now we're back.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
This is like a lot time ago.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Yeah, people could follow.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Along when we were like a readable one. Yeah, doing
a readable one because King James. People just lose it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
You don't want the King what version do you want? Actually,
this is actually King James Bible online.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
What they got ye that works.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Get smarter is what we're be smarter people in that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
I don't know if I told you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
Guys, I used to go to an all black church
and they know, yeah, they use King James bro So
it was like I asked the dude that because I
met a dude at a Bible study.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Black dude at a Bible study. Oh yeah, yeah, this
dude knows the Lord tell me the truth?

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Are all black church is more fun?

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
The music is I used to play?

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
You know, the question was fun? Yeah, they music is
way I used to play.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
I used to play with like I would travel to
my friend's church at old black church. When you find
the music is better there, there's so much better close close.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
Now, this one, I'm not saying all of them, but
this one might have had some of the technical difficulties
that we were having in the beginning. Yeah, yeah, so
maybe some of that, but like the music and the
vibe was just like when I first went in, I
was the only white guys immaculate vibes, and I was like, well,
I'll just shove over here to the right. But in
five minutes I was like clapping and dancing too. It
was let me tell you something, a quick observation. They
play music at the church all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
It's good music, right, But when the Spanish congregation got
up and they played their music, I.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Was like this, there's an innate technical like they don't
understand technically, Like I don't even know if they know
how to read music. I was playing with the kid
that was twelve years old. There is a YouTube, old
one of me, YouTube video, and he just knows I'm
playing something in D minor and the dudes just on
the drum my, boys on the drums and with gin
and in the church, and his little brother comes on
the keyboard and just like doesn't ask usually be like yo,

(01:08:58):
what are you playing?

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
He just came right and then starting just freestyle.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
They innately understand what you could do, what you can't do,
where you can go, where you can't go. And I'm
just like a beautiful man. In Spanish, people's the same thing,
but just a lesser degree. We have other problems. We're
good at musically a knife thing, all right, so please, yeah,
let's continue.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Okay. So then that's so that's how you ten times better.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Him and his homies are ten times after.

Speaker 4 (01:09:22):
That's how I got stuck on King James because everything
they were quoting was King James. I was like, how
come my Bible doesn't say the same thing, And then my.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Buddy was and then I did and that's just the
Bible lock How much.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Did it did it deviate? It's just the words, just
the words.

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
Yeah, it's just they were quoting things and the quote,
like when you go to quote a passage wasn't the
same thing, you know, it's close.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
And my guy, who was like an advisor to me
at the.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Time, or not an advisor, he was like, because we're
reading Daniel, he was like an advisor to the King. No,
it was just like my guy who was like a
mentor mentor. Yeah, he's like a mentor. He said, Bro,
you need to be in a King James. So when
we talk, it's like making the same sense.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Gotcha. And then that just went on for so long.
That's just what I locked in. But now I noticed
with Bible studies. It's just kind of tough for people.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
We've done it with Ed sometimes, and it's harder because
he's in California, so he'll be reading live in California.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
I think Ed's got money. I think he's I think
he's I think he's got but we don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
I think it's gotten from that's where I'm from.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Yeah, No, he lives on like a vineyard, vineyard country.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
I don't know why he'll be He'll be reading from
the Book of Revelation and I'm bringing up the King
James and he's bringing and he's reading it word for word,
but it's like slightly different.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
I'm like, he looks like a liar right now.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Yeah, to the people, yes, the words are, but like
you gotta understand, it's still whatever, continue un you got it, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:10:39):
So then and then in twenty one, it just makes
a reference like Daniel continued even.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Under the first year at King Cyrus. So they're just saying, like, yo,
he's in He's in this a long time. This story
takes over a long time, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
In the second year of the Reign of Dreamed Dreams,
where with his spirit was troubled and his sleep broke
from him. Right, So he so he's like a very
troublesome dream. Right, maybe he's in.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Love with the man on a ship that has like
I was in.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Love with that man.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
I like, he's just an admirable Let him talk, don't
cut off the guests I had that go.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
So, so he wakes up and he's just he's just aggravated.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
He's just like and then and then so he calls
all the spiritual people together who he's paying for. Right,
he says, all right, what was my dream and the interpretation?
All these guys say, hey, yeah, I just tell us
the dream. We'll give you the interpretation, because who can't
you know, like he tell us the dream, make some
cute story out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
He says, no, No, you're just trying to buy time
right now. If you don't tell me my dream and
the interpretation, I'm killing all of you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Wow, gangster Wild.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
Yeah, this is chapter two. This is what's going on.
It's like verse one.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
This is why, this is why they are the head
of gold because in politics, honestly, dude, you listen, if
I elect you to policy, you're going to make it
argument about politics. My god, you said you were going
to fix something and then you don't cut their head off.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
That's who he is, not just that Verse five. The
thing is gone from me is what he tells all
these guys. It's gone from me. You know. If you
don't make know none to me the dream with the interpretation,
you'll be cutting pieces and your houses shall be made
a dunghill. Wow, people are ready for the Bible, bro.
They just that's crazy. I think it's like cute and
lovely and sweet, and it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
It's just it's just raw, hardcore story of the reality
of life. Like the Bible never.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Claims to be a religion ever, there's there's never it's
just a story. It claims to be reality telling history book.
Here's the story of reality. You do what you want
with it, but this is the story of reality.

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
Like, why would all this stuff be in here if
you were just trying to start a religion.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
How your house should be made a dung pile?

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Yeah, damn dude.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
And the thing is like, like I read it, it's like,
that's that's fun to say. But they probably did it,
Like he showed up and it's probably taking some time
to do too. Imagine making this in my house and
do a dungpile.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Feed them. They don't have bulldozers. Who knows how they
did it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Feeding pork chops and hot dogs and like go. But
they're about it though. I like I like it, I
respect it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
So okay. So he so all the way through nine
he's saying, like, you guys aren't figuring it out. For
his ten, he's getting more and more pissed.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
Eleven, they're saying, nobody's ever asked anybody to do this,
like nobody's ever said you had to.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Tell me my dream, and I don't even know what
it is.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
Uh So Nima Canezer becomes furious in verse twelve and
commands to destroy all the wise men of Babylon, which
Daniel shad dragged me me shacking have been to go.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
They're part of that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
Yeah, So the decree went forth that the wise men
should be slain, and they sought Daniel and his fellows
to be slain.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Then Daniel answered with counsel and wisdom.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
This dude's just calm, col and collective, bro just like
all the time, he's chill.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
If he did something different than that, he never would.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
He never would. He saw he's just chill. So he says, hey,
what's why is the Verse fifteen, he says, why is
the decree so hasty? And then ariok, who's the who's
the guy in charge? He says, yeah, man, he's gonna
kill everybody. Daniel says, can I get a little bit
of time? Can just get a little bit of time? Like, like,
I get it? He wants an answer, no problem, but
can you give me a minute? So he says uh.

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
Verse sixteen, he says, Daniel goes in desired of the king.
So it looks like he went straight in and talked
to the king and said, hey, man, give me a
minute and I'll show you the interpretation. Now this is
before he knows the interpretation. Verse seventeen.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
Then Daniel went to his house and made the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
Known to Hannah anday On, Michael and Azrara his companions,
that they would desire mercies of the God to heavenim
concerning the secret that Daniel and his fellows should not
die with the rest of the wise men of Babylon.
So this is like you see in the movies where
the guy goes cover me. I'm going in nice that's
what he's doing. He tells the boys fellas, you gotta pray, Yeah,
you gotta pray.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
We don't get an answer.

Speaker 4 (01:14:34):
We're going to die. People don't pray like that anymore, right,
They just pray sweet things for like nice things. They
want more stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
I pray anymore, like they're gonna die. Yeah, I'm man.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
If you have an extreme motivator, and that's an extreme motivator.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:14:50):
Verse nineteen then was the secret revealed under Daniel in
a night vision. So it's a night vision maybe you
call it a dream maybe not maybe to vision, but
it's just in the night. And then Daniel blesses the
God of Heaven and then he just makes this incredible prayer.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
What does that mean?

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
I mean, if you bless God, that's like God, you are?

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
You crush man?

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
You praise him and worship him?

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
Yeah, okay, you praise him and worship him and give
him the honor that he's owed.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Can I go? Hey, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
We were talking with Ed Maybury about this. I think
this is the episode where were like, should I talk
with these guys about the idea of blessing Israel that
scripture in Genesis is supposed to be like, you know,
politicians use it and they say we should give them
money and support everything they do. But Ed was saying
that blessing just means kind of like, you know, I
hope you do hope you do good, man, I hope

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you don't die tomorrow, Like, hope you do good. Cursing
would be the opposite of that. So like, to bless
God is just an odd statement for me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
It's kind of like.

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
Right, right, but what, like what can we give him
other than like our praise and worship?

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Like we can't what could you offer? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
And even that we know it doesn't need any of that,
you're probably getting the chat.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Like oh God doesn't need anything.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
I get it, I get but like that's all we got,
Like that's all we can give is our race, That's.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
All we got. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
When when you pray, do you pray out loud?

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Do you do it out loud?

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
And do you speak like do you get hung up
on the words that you're using where like you know
you're you're you're coming to God in a much more
formal way.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
No, right, Okay, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
I like that, No bro, so he he knows us
look like that stupid I'm just saying you have to talk.

Speaker 4 (01:16:32):
No, I'm so glad you said that. It has to
be exactly who you are. He knows exactly who you are.
So like if you try to like sugarcoat it, like
I was just in a funeral and the guy's like
talk like the guy gets the mic and he starts
talking like an actor, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Your I'm already irritable. I'm already like I just want
to go.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
I don't like I love this man that we're here
to honor, Like I hate this whole like toyst thing
when you start pretending you're somebody else.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
Never ever do that to God.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
He says, I know my sheep, my sheep, know my voice.
He talks to us in a way we understand. He
talks to people in China. He talks to be able
to speak Chinese. He talks to people who speak Spanish,
he talks to people who speak like all the languages.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Like he talks to you how you talk, like like
that's what he does.

Speaker 4 (01:17:08):
Okay, so you just talk to him in the most
plainest way, but the most raw, like the most raw
and most plain and all the things you would never
say to anybody, you say that stuff to God.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
All right, So the second question. I talked to God
in two ways. One of them is like, if I'm driving,
I just talk to God like I talk, like just
chopping it. But then if if I'm praying, which usually
is a pretty simple prayer, it's like, whatever you want
me to do, I want to do that thing. But
top thinks this is weird, and I want to know.
And if you think it's weird, it's okay. What do
I think it's weird when I do that? Well, obviously
when I drive the car, I'm wearing I'm wearing I'm

(01:17:40):
wearing clothes. Oh yeah, no, I don't think it's weird.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Oh you don't think it's weird.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
I think you're weird.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
Oh well, when I pray, I typically do that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
I do that in the shower because I think there's
something with water with that, and also, you know, because
I'm in the shower, I pray at all.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
Times, is what the scripture says. Yeah, there's like, no,
there's no wrong time.

Speaker 4 (01:17:57):
But I like what you're saying. You're just communicating with
God and about your days. Yeah, how crazy happens? You know,
you just like talk to God about it. He's like
he would with anybody you know, but but it's different.
It's different. He's the creator of the universe and he's
owdede respect and honor. But like to respect and honor
him is to be close to him because he loves you.
He's a jealous God. Think how crazy a statement that is. Bro,
It's not even that like he cares what you're doing.

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He's jealous, And how crazy a statement that is. He's
like like that, what were you doing with the world today?
Like like, bro, what about me? Like you didn't have
any time with me? And you were like doing this, this, that,
and that in the world. You had all that time
to do that?

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Like that's That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
Like, you have to read the scripture to know his character,
to know who he is, to know how to communicate
with him if you don't, and the communication has to
be like as real and raw as anything in your life.
Like I talked to people before they're like, yeah, I'm
embarrassed to bring.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
This up before God. And I'm always like why he.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Already knows, he already knows, he already knows, dude, what are.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
You talking about? Like he already knows. You have to
talk to him about it. Well, I'm embarrassed, it's the
sin I'm dealing with. He already knows, Like you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Have to talk to embarrassing that you aren't saying it
like you think he doesn't know.

Speaker 4 (01:19:02):
But I don't know if I can quit telling that. Yeah,
I don't know if I want to quit telling that.
Tell say the whole thing. Say everything you're thinking, Just
bring it to God. Tell him the whole thing, and
then say, like you're saying, what do you want.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Me to do? It's interesting, like I'm gonna quit this,
but I can't, but I know you can help me
quit it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
So what do you want to do here? How much
of this is like my willpower? And how much of
this is like you're going to help me overcome it?

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Like? How do you want to work this out? But
I have to stop doing this? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
Yeah, I think it's obvious, Like you know, to achieve
certain things, you need to do it through God. But
God also likes when you participate, you know what I mean? Say,
like a lot of people be like pray for a
thing and just wait around for a thing to happen.
It's like, no, you know you're doing this through through
through God. But you need to be active, like you
got to start from moving references to birds, right.

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
He says that, like, look at the birds, like they
don't store up in storehouses, they don't store up in barns. Man,
they don't worry, they don't get anxiety about food. And
look how God takes care of them. And surely he
cares more about you than the birds. But watch the
birds because because you'll never see a burges.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Birds out there, just most of them are fake. Dog,
I don't know if you know true. The government drones,
well they recharge on that. Not not to deviate. But
the chat seems to love the guests.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
His name is Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
They like Matt so they yeah amen, Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Yeah, Matt's up.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
They like they like I don't type that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
They like the Bible, bro, that's if you talk Bible.
People love the Bible, Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
They don't like us. Just don't like that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
They don't like that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
They say horrify.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
There was that moment where.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
It looked like when you know, when your dad used
to back in your mom at the dinner table, you
guys did.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Yeah, he's very grouchy. He gets very grouchy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Sometimes I think about him, like I got to correct
him for stuff, and I don't even have anything to
correct him about. So I'm like, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
Trying that about the birds because you went in the.

Speaker 4 (01:20:47):
You never see a burd for a worm to fall
out of this guy. Never if you watch a worm,
they're grimy. Brother, they're in the dirt and they're down
the up. They're over here, but they know if they're
out there doing it, they're gonna get the food.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
That's what people say, Like, you know, I hope that
God will open up certain doors for me and things
like this, like grinding, but you've got to move through
the door. If the door opens, you got to be
moving through the door.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
What Raven Hill used to say, the who bro? Do
you not know letter Raven Hill?

Speaker 4 (01:21:14):
Raven Hill bro the best, like the most gangster preacher ever.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
Oh okay, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
You know, we spoke about him last week at the
coffee shop.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Hill. I did bring him up.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
I have no memory.

Speaker 4 (01:21:27):
He used to say, the opportunity of a lifetime must
be seized during the lifetime of the opportunity.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
Oh yeah, that's right, you said that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
I remember that crush.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
I see if you never told me that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
I don't think I said that quote.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
You said that quote.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Yeah, but it's true. It's true. If there's a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
I've I've been telling people, Matt said that I've spoken
to you about this about like specifically what we're doing now,
Like like we met you at the time. We're like,
you know what, We're gonna invest in the cameras, We're
gonna invest in more Mike, We're going to do a
studio and it's kind of like why I was like,
the opportunities right now, that's when you do it. And
it's like a crazy side. So you saw what we did,
said this is it's insane, but we're like the opportunity

(01:22:00):
is now, and it's like if you don't move, then
don't even bother.

Speaker 4 (01:22:03):
And you guys have shifted to more like Bible based stuff.
Well we we Well the foundation was always because you
were asking like what's up with these guys, dude, they're
like crazy and terrible people, death squad, skull and bones,
like what's the.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
Is what this is? And then it's it's a little
bit of a miss. I mean, I like the skull
and bones.

Speaker 4 (01:22:21):
I think yeah, if it's if it's Goliath skull, which
I think that's what kind of referred to it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
I like that he asked us.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
He's like, what is Nephlim Desquad. It's like it doesn't
mean it means like like we are the death Squad.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Yeah, we kill them.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
We killed well yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
Look this is this is where a lot of people is.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
The foundation of the show is Jesus Christ because we
came at this entire thing being like conspiracy through the
biblical lens.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
Because he and I were.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
Go, did you guys connect to start doing the We connected.
Pretty much. Everybody's asked me like tons of questions.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
I had started Why they asking so many questions. I'm
I do like the top lobster thing. That's all like
the art workles and stuff like this. So I had
like a online presence with the Mandela effects. Yeah, broa.
I had started, uh like doing digital media and building
an online presence for a long time, like based in
comedy and things like that. But I had like a

(01:23:13):
following and then I said, you know what I'm gonna
I'm want to do a show because I see a
lot of other guys doing it. And then I decided
to do a conspiracy type show. He was doing one. Yeah,
because it's like, you know, it's like I'm gonna do
something I'm interested in. He was doing one at the
same time. He's like, hey, well you watch my show.
I said absolutely. I don't know why. I listened to
his show and I thought I was like, hey, you know,
this guy's pretty good. I think he's onto something. And

(01:23:35):
then we just started like random stranger. I was like,
let's do it together, like we'll we'll do it at
the same time. And that's how it started.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
How long ago was that, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
Yeah, well, experience.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
Were both in like Florida. Yeah, we both escaped the
East Coast.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
I had.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
I had moved here fairly recently.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
When did you guys end up in this area though?

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
I I bought this this place in If.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
You're like a city slicker and you're just like, yeah,
I'm just gonna like it's easy.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
The lockdowns Florida was pretty based on the lock.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
You were just like, yo, I'm ready to just be
a country boy.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
Now. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
I mean I I like doing I like doing the work,
and I know about this stuff, but I never had
the space to do it, and I was like, I
gotta get out of the grind. I got to get
out of this like concrete jungle, and we moved here.
We have some family around the villages, so I was like,
this is a good spot. And also geographically, I'm like,
if things go sideways, these old people always need a

(01:24:32):
truck I drive. I used to drive a tractor trailer.
I was like, I could do that. I could do construction,
no way, Yeah, yeah, I never thought that heavy heavy
construction is what I do, what I'm good at, and
like operation of machinery, so like I would that's like
what I did before in New York. I never would
have guessed that, Yeah, I know it's weird. Now I'm
doing like it's weird. The artistic side of me is

(01:24:52):
almost opposite of that, like swing hammer and building the
tracks in the subway in New York City. But that's
like what I did. I sold this place. I was
like rural enough, far away enough, but also I could
like like it just seemed like a good opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
So we just came out here. My parents came.

Speaker 4 (01:25:08):
No, it's always wild how people get here because nobody's
from here.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
No, one's from here.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
It's wild. That's I'm saying, like to move here and
then meet you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
So he who first?

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
The raven guy here first? That's a good question.

Speaker 3 (01:25:19):
Well, I've been here for a while. He was in
Tampa then he then he moved down here in Tampa.
I guess it's only been three years.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
I've been in no, no, no, no no, I moved
from New Jersey to Tampa, well to Tampa area.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
Yeah, and I was I was.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
A fabricator for a while out here.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Yeah, yeah, no way. You guys should like construction guys too.
I would never guess we're so awful.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
That's why we're terrible speakers.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
And people are usually raw, like they just want to
get to the point.

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
That's how you guys, You're like, yeah, let's just get
to the point.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Like what's going on here?

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
It was I would call it serendipitous, the way that
things unfolded with with this ship. And then also not
to tute our own horn, but the popularity of the
show was.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
It kind of had its own thing going on.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
It wasn't us.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
I would always attribute that to God. It was like
as soon as because.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
I've been a podcaster as well as a welder and
a fabricator for like I guess about a decade almost
eight years seven or eight years so and to just
zero success. And I've always been this like unhinged conspiracy
kind of guy. Like long story short, I think it
was like, you start pursuing the truth, the truth leads
you to Jesus Christ. If you build your foundation, which

(01:26:33):
is what this show is built on, is.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
Jesus, then good things happen.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
And so I attribute this to sex, the sex the
success of the show to do don't laugh at that.
To no God, that was a mishap. It's a Freudian sleeping.
So I just think that that's why.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
It's almost self serving, right, Like it's like you realize
as like, well, this thing continues to feed you or
this thing continues to bring you good and you're like.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
Well, I let's just keep doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
Yeah, And then you keep doing it and you're like
this is getting more of that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
Right, It's like you'd be stupid not to. I mean
you understand how I recognize it constantly, Like you want
to talk about blessed, this is what I get to.
I would pursue this anyway, but now I get to
build my life off of it, Like, that's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
They want us, they want us to docs ourselves no live, Yeah,
all right, let's let's continue. Let's continue in the the
actual Bible.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
Interesting, See they don't always like me. Look at that one.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
Yeah, that's not nice that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
Shout out to Sunday. Funny thing is that that person
pays to be there. Yeah, they actually pay to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
How many people are saying comments like how many.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
There's so there's five hundred watching live and that's not
on If we check out rumble, there's a.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
Lot probably a few one hundred on there too, you
And then.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
How many things are people saying.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
There's a lot of things. A lot of it is
probably real bad.

Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
If the truth of the matter is, it doesn't matter.
You know, they have their own side conversations on here.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
Okay, so some of that does a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
Of it isn't even to us at all. They're just
they're hanging with them in the chat.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
That's whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:28:02):
Actually, Okay, So this is one of the most powerful
prayers like in the Bible, like Daniel just blesses God.
So if you have a question, actually, this is exactly
what you should do. Bro anytime you say, what does
it mean to bless God? Where Daniel blessed God? Go
ahead and read what he did? Okay, So what I'm saying,
it's this praise and worship prayer that he's offering to God.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
I don't really want to read it. It's it's like,
so Gang.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
You really like set it up like it was super dope,
and then you're like, I'm not going to read.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Can we read it in the normal.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
You want to read it in? You want me to
read it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
I haven't heard from James. I just feel like people
lose it there.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
I got it pulled up here, so I mean it'll
sound weird for them.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
What do you think you'll need to read it?

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
King James?

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:28:43):
From then Daniel blessed the God of heaven. Daniel answered
and said, blessed to be the name of God forever
and ever, For wisdom in might are his. And he
changes the times and seasons. He removes kings and sets
up kings. Just remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Remember that, Like when.

Speaker 4 (01:28:56):
I keep saying, like Trump good or bad, I don't
care Trump's good or bad, completely irrelevant.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
God sets up kings, He removes kings.

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
He does it with Nebka and Ezra too, which this
is a long game. This is a long story for
Nevican Ezra. He's going to f around and find out
because like in the beginning, he thinks he's somebody important.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
He gives wisdom under the wise and knowledge to them
that no understanding, so that's how they get it. He
reveals the deep and secret things. He knows what is
in the darkness, and the light dwells with him. I
thank THEE and praise THEE, Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:29:23):
Thou God of my fathers, who has given me wisdom
and might, and has made known unto me now what
we desired of THEE. For thou hast now made known
on us the king's matter. Therefore Daniel went in under Ariach.
When the king had ordained to destroy the wise men
of Babylon. He went and said, thus, unto him, destroy
not the wise men of Babylon. Bring me in before
the king, and I'll show into the king the interpretation.

(01:29:43):
So Daniel saves all the wise men, going to just
save him. It's like with Paul's on the ship and
the Book of Acts. I think we talked about that before.
And he saved everybody on the ship because he was
tight with God.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
I want to hear. I don't want this episode to
end without hearing the dream interprets. I mean, I know
what the dream into, but it's like, it's a good story.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
I want we'll do it. Yeah, Oh, we gotta go.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
We know we don't have to go.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
Now. Do you think we had to go? No? I
didn't mean to.

Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
Do you think we can get to it? Because there
was some stuff about Nippaka. You were saying to me,
I don't know something weird, bigfoot stuff. Will we get
to that? Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:30:12):
When he turns into a sasquatch, I think that's I mean, yeah,
that's that's I don't know if.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
We're gonna get that far. I don't I don't care.
I could talk all night. I just I don't know
how long the podcast is supposed to go. I don't
know how long it's supposed to go. Good, I'm good
for whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:30:24):
How long do you think it's supposed to go?

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
I don't know. All right, let's let's do let's do
what we can't just but I'm not going to jump
over stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
We got even years of sasquatch.

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
No, listen, if people got to come back next week,
then they got to come back next week.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
No, I'll go like I can go whatever. So uh okay,
but we're right in the middle of this.

Speaker 4 (01:30:39):
Then Ariok brought in Daniel before the king in haste
and said, unto him, I found a man of the
captives of Judah that will make known of the king the.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
Interpretation remember it. And he already knew they were ten
times better than the rest.

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
Yeah, I know, we already knew that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
It's like you forgot again.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
Yeah, why didn't he just come to them in the
first place?

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
Dealing with these brothers. There's Epstein, there's there's Alaska.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
This could have been like twenty year will how come?

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
Wait even if it was a year, you forget a
lot in New Year?

Speaker 4 (01:31:04):
Yeah, just the news cycle, you know, it's just like
all this stuff happened.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
That's why you got a purpose in your heart. Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:31:11):
Yeah, that's like the whole core of like the purposing
in your heart. If you don't, then just the whole
busyness and things, you're just gonna be gone.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
Like how many people are in debt, bro? They didn't
set out to be in debt. They just all of
a sudden bought a thirty dollars thing, and then a
seventeen dollars thing, and then a five hundred dollars thing,
and then they got to get a new car.

Speaker 4 (01:31:27):
And I like way in debt. They didn't purpose in
their heart ahead of time. It's just that if you
don't purpose in your heart, you're.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
Going to go the way of the world.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
All right, fair enough?

Speaker 4 (01:31:34):
The king answered and said of Daniel, whose name was Belshes,
are are you able to make known under me the
dream which I have seen? In the interpretation, this is
always the character of a man of God.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
This is like Joseph's. This is very similar to Joseph's
story in Egypt. But this, this is always the character
of a man of God.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
Daniel answered in the presence of the king and said,
the secret which the King has demanded cannot the wise men,
the astrologers.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
The magicians, the southsayers show unto the king. But there's
a god in heaven that reveals see secrets and makes
known to the king, Nebukanezer, which shall be in the
latter days. He doesn't Daniel doesn't take credit for it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
Yeah, that's it better not.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
Yeah. Dream.

Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
In the additions, thy dream and the visions that I
had upon thy bed. Are these as for thee, O King,
Thy thoughts came to my mind upon thy bed, what
should come to pass hereafter? And he that reveals secrets
that he's talking about God, that's just this, just a
name he just gave him. He that reveals secrets makes
known to thee what shall come to pass. But as
for me, this secret is not revealed to me for
any wisdom that I have more than any living. But

(01:32:30):
for their sakes, that shall make known the interpretation of
the king, and that you might know the thoughts of
your heart. Thou, O King, saw and behold a great image.
This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee,
and the form there of was terrible. This image's head
was of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver,
and his belly and his styes of brass, his legs
of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay.

(01:32:51):
You saw till that a stone was cut out without hands,
which smote the image upon his feet that were of
iron and clay.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
And broke them to pieces. Then was the eye in
the clay of the brass.

Speaker 4 (01:33:01):
The silver and the gold broken to pieces together, and
became like the chaff of the summer threshing force, and
the wind carried them away. You know when there's the
Avengers movie where the guy goes like that now and they.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
He says that. He says, by the way, he didn't
tell anybody, like because he wants people to interpret his dream.
But he's like, I'm not telling you anything, like you
gotta tell me.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
They'll know, you know, the interpretation that's wild. Yeah, yeah, uh.

Speaker 4 (01:33:23):
The wind carried them away, that no place was found
for them, and the stone that smote the image became
a great mountain and filled the whole earth. This is
the dream, and we will tell the interpretation there of
before you.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
King, just keep grinding, Should we just keep grinding? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:33:39):
Now, o king or a king of kings, For the
God of Heaven has given you a kingdom, power and
strength and glory, and wheresoever the children of men dwell,
the beasts of the field, and the fowls of the heaven,
has he given into your hand and has made the
ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold,
And after these shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee,
and another third kingdom of brass, which I'll bear rule
over all the earth, and the fourth Kingdom shall be

(01:34:00):
strong as iron, For as much as iron breaks in
pieces and subdues all things, and as iron that breaks
all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise. And
whereas you saw the feet and toes part of Potter's
clay and part of iron, the kingdom is. The kingdom
shall be divided, but there shall be in the strength
of the iron. For as much as you saw the
iron mix with myrie clay, and as the toes of
the feet were part of iron part of clay, So

(01:34:23):
the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly broken. And
where as you saw iron mix with myrie clay, they
shall mingle themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
With the seed of men. M hm. You guys ever
read this versus?

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
I wondered if you were gonna keep it straight straight
through like this. I've read it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
But this part they shall mingle themselves with the seed
of men.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
Who is they?

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
Oh? They, hey, hey, it's gonna get reality.

Speaker 4 (01:34:49):
And whereas you saw iron mix with myrie clay, they
shall mingle themselves with the seed of men. But they
shall not cleave one to another. Even if iron is
not mixed with clay, and the.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
Actually do you know who La Marzouli is.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
Oh, yeah, above the dude, La Marzuli.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
And you know what, because Top has an attitude, right,
you guys had you guys had them all. LA didn't
like it, La, La. He kept consrecting you. He said,
he said cuss words. He gave him an attitude and
La said no, and then like weird stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
You guys should have him on again.

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
I would love to have l mar We'll reach out.
But this is yeah, so I've read this obviously a
long time ago. But like this is one of the
uh the scriptures that he does. Cool, Like he's he's
big on three fifteen.

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
What is what is he? What's this point he's making there?

Speaker 1 (01:35:31):
This one here about h the I know what the
point is.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
They shall mingle themselves with the seed a man. They
shall not cleave one to another.

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
You ever hear of the black eyed children?

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:35:39):
No, yeah, this is interesting. I think that's what he
what it's what it's in reference, That's what I feel, And.

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
That he's not time about black eyed children, is he?
La Marzuli?

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
Oh yeah, dude, he's talking about the entire UFO deception
being of the nephil and being of the fallen and
trying to create.

Speaker 3 (01:35:53):
He thinks you can blending of us a breeding program.
I think he's not completely wrong there, but yeah, that
that scripture here specifically about mingling themselves with the seed
of men. He thinks that the nephil or the current
iteration of the nephilm, are having a reproduction issue. So
this is why you get UFO, you get abductions, you
get a lot of like weird butt stuff, and like

(01:36:14):
they're doing things with the women's organs, they're stealing sperm,
they're taking parts from cows.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
Well that is the weird thing about the alien thing.

Speaker 4 (01:36:20):
And I get it, like only crazy people believe in aliens,
but like, are only crazy people have been adducted? But
it's like even Chuck Messler used to talk about bro
like they all have the same story for decades. Oh yeah,
like people all over the planet they've never talked together.
How do they all have the same story when they
get abducted because they do ake in and they get
tampered with the reproductive part.

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
Yeah, they're doing the same thing. It's but from from
here they shall not cleave to one another. Even as
iron does not mix with Clay, so he uses that
scripture as they will not cleave, like it's hard for
them to impregnate the woman as readily as they were
doing in Genesis.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
Well, it's not even just that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
That's an interesting person is from Karen.

Speaker 1 (01:36:57):
Karen Wilkinson and other female abductive victims who have been
impregnated lost the pregnancy. They're often abducted in the future
again and through progressive hypnosis. They're like, yeah, these things
are trying to introduce me to these black eyed children
that are my offspring. And they're saying, like something's wrong,
and I think we need you, we need the mother

(01:37:18):
and and she can't connect with them. So these kids,
these black eyed children that are like hybridized, are not working.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
They're messed up.

Speaker 4 (01:37:26):
So are black eyed children the one that like if
you live when they talk back on the twentieth floor
and like there's something like there's something knocks on your door,
like on your stoop, like on your.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37):
So all right, this is what the black eyed children are.
They're they're abducting human women. They're doing this uh impregnation
program or whatever. They are sometimes coming back and actually pregnant.
They'll go to doctors and doctors will say, yeah, you're
definitively pregnant, and then suddenly one day the pregnancy will
mysteriously vange.

Speaker 3 (01:37:54):
Also, it's not just the crazy part is not just
like alien stuff like where it's like a you know,
you think of an abduction on a operating table and
they're they're like in a white starle room. You've heard
this kind of alien production story. But like it can
go to your sleep paralysis. Streams of the idea of
incubus and succubis that come to people at the night
and they tempt them with sexual things like that. It

(01:38:17):
gets really spoken to, it can get really weird. But
they think that it has to do a lot with
this where they're kind of reflecting on like not mingling.
The seed will not mingle, so they have to figure
out another way.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
To uh mix this. I don't know they're trying. I
think if you think that's if you of the mind
that uh no. I just remember the.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
Dude Timothy Alvarino. Did you guys have Timothy Aberna?

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
We had Timothy Averrina, so I remember him.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
I think I remember him in the moment, never have
Like they'll come to your door and ask, can we
just get something to eat. He's like, never let him in,
Like never.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
Well, yeah no, but I'm talking specifically about the black
eyed children are just the children of abductee victims. And
long story short, when they're talking about that, they shall
not mingle themselves. The iron and the clay won't make
these kids. They're they're not working. So there's a phenomenon
where several abducte victims are like, yeah, I have children.
They're up there somewhere. I see them every once in

(01:39:10):
a while in an deduction experience. And when I do
see them, they're off. There's something wrong. And even the aliens,
whether the tall grays or the insectoids, are speaking to
them telepathically.

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
He's like, what the hell? Watch some shows on it
or now.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
They'll talk to them and they'll say like something is wrong. Basically,
they'll go to the human women and be like make
it work, like this kid is all messed up.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
Make them work.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
So they want a suitable uh I guess bridge between
the species.

Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
Spencer Pe is saying, like in Matthew way, they're talking
about the wheat and the tears, let them.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
Grow together and then be divided.

Speaker 3 (01:39:45):
That's like, so a lot of people think that that
is like behavioral of human beings, but some people think
that that could also be like, hey, they're going to
be growing, Like I don't know, I think this. I
think there's a lizard people walking among us. So this
is kind of like this is strange idea.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
What if Matt was a lizard for home?

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
I'm definitely not all right, let's let's continue with the
actual like biblic we need to unpack this now. Then,
so it's like it's this image. He says, Okay, there's
this image, and you know how people are like, oh man, history,
you know gets better and better. We're the most advanced.
We're like the uh, what is the one political part progressive?
We're like we're like progressing. That's not how God sees it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:22):
God says no, no, Like Babylon is like a kingdom
of gold. Then it just gets worse from there, dude.
Then the who comes next, the Meads and the Persians,
they're like a kingdom of silver. Then Greece is like
a kingdom of bronze. And then Rome is basically a
kingdom of iron. And there's this weird thing where Rome
is kind of two things.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
Mm hmm. Never run.

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
You would they would.

Speaker 4 (01:40:49):
We know, there's a lot of old timers that always
looked at the Vatican as like the anti crist system,
like as like.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
Like all the old timers salt like that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:58):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
So you have like Rome, You've got like the government
of Rome, and then you have like Papal Rome. So's
there's two things, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
So Rome never goes away.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
Yeah, it's you You have Rome as like a as
like a world power. Then you have the Vatican, which
is Rome kind of yeah, it's like it's two legs. Yeah,
it's two legs, Like, oh, that's interesting, like Rome. But
then you have like the Vatican, like technicals are in everything, bro,
the Vaticans in everything. It's in every country. They're they're
they're in everything.

Speaker 1 (01:41:26):
I heard this thing once and I think it's like
the laws that are on the books that they don't
actually enforce, like the noa hide laws or something like that,
but that if the pope makes a law that this
is the entire world has to abide.

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
But oh, you guys need to read Dave hunt The
Woman Rides the Beast.

Speaker 1 (01:41:40):
Have you ever heard of it?

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:41:41):
No, Dave hunts a gangsters. I don't know if he's
still alive or not, but his books are in the library.
Either way, I can't remember. If Dave Hunt's still around it,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
But his book A Woman Rides the Beast, bro is,
it only is from Catholic literature. There's there's no hearsay,
there's there's no like sketch, there's no uh, there's no
like sketchy anything. It all only from political to be
careful because Catholic source audience gets really when you smirch
the Catholic man, I'm like, yeah, that was late.

Speaker 4 (01:42:11):
It was like we had videos and stuff, so I
knew it was like kind of current. But anyway, that's
going to take only Catholic literature.

Speaker 2 (01:42:18):
That's all it is. It's all it is. And he
just breaks it down and explains like how it is the.

Speaker 4 (01:42:22):
BT system, how it is like us. It's a very
intriguing read. It's a very intriguing read. But to that point,
could like make like declare things yeah that that were
for everybody on the planet. There was a time where
there was two popes and they both excommunicated.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
Each other, Like, bro, like what are we talking about?
Like what's going on here?

Speaker 3 (01:42:42):
The current pope is getting into like I know, you're
like kind of a what is that called? What identity politics?
And like climate stuff and like what do you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
The last pope was like will baptize aliens?

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:42:54):
Yeah that's true.

Speaker 4 (01:42:55):
Wait, so do you guys know about there? They've got
the telescope that's like called the Losers for you guys know.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
All about that.

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
I don't know much about it things. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we know about that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
Like what are they? I don't know what you do stuff?
Yeah yeah, anyway, so so yeah, so then you ultimately
end up with these ten kingdoms, these ten toes and
who knows. Man, I don't. I don't like, uh, in time,
prophecy is not really my jam.

Speaker 4 (01:43:19):
It's not really my thing because I guess I guess
I have more of a heart to be like yeah whatever,
I'm down for whatever. Like I don't I don't care
how this thing goes. I don't care which way it goes.
I don't care if his pre trip, post trip, mid trip.
I want to be aware. Like actually, Jess and I
were talking on the way home today that like I'm
intrigued by watching like macroeconomics and stuff currently today, like
just because that's the system that the Antichrist is going
to come through, Like he's going to come and roll

(01:43:40):
like through a political and economic system. And if you
don't have his mark, you can't buy yourself without it.
So yeah, I feel responsibility to be able to pinpoint
it when he comes on the scene.

Speaker 1 (01:43:51):
And identify it. Yeah, and not just for me, but
for my loved ones.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
I have to be able to say like, yeah, no, no, no,
that's it. I don't guess this is the thing we're
watching out for.

Speaker 3 (01:43:58):
Let me ask you a question, because I think I
don't know if I've nailed it specifically, but I do
think that it's it is some sort of crypto, and
I think specifically it might be like x r P
or ripple that that crypto specifically which will be the
coin that they use. So I invested heavily in it
because I'm like, listen, yeah, I know it's crazy, but like,
if I know this thing, if I know that this

(01:44:18):
is like a government operator, you.

Speaker 1 (01:44:23):
Like, was it from this or all alone of a
quarter million dollars. I'm not rich high interest, I'm not
rich that.

Speaker 3 (01:44:30):
It's just that's one of the investments that I saw
early and I was like, I'm going to buy that
because they're doing. What they're doing is like the the
government took it off the market. They the SEC was
attacking it because it's like this kind of coin that
could uh, it's it's good for its international trade. That's
like where it really shines where other coins do certain things.
Some are speed, some are like like the the ability

(01:44:51):
for it to retain its worth. This one is specifically
for international trade.

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
And that's like what do we use the swift system now?

Speaker 4 (01:45:00):
And then the bricks nations develop like Project Cambridge, it's
like a way to do financial stuff across the planet.

Speaker 3 (01:45:06):
Yeah, it's the same thing, but this will be a
vehicle for them to do that. So I recognize that
that they did that, and I also recognize that now
this is like.

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
That only so you invested in it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:15):
Yeah, so I'm like, so I'm going to buy this
because I'm like but then it's like should I have
reservations about like, well, I saw this, I'm gonna get
ahead of it and then I'll have money to do
what I need to do. I think as long as
you don't take an implant under your I'm not gonna
know if they're like you got to take an implant
to use it. I'm like, well then I'm out. But
for right now, if you're going to do this and.

Speaker 2 (01:45:32):
Then that's good, like artificially get that out there.

Speaker 3 (01:45:35):
If you're going to artificially boost this coin and like
basically tank the dollar and all around, it's like, what
am I I'm supposed to sit here watch you do
this and then not be able to family.

Speaker 2 (01:45:44):
Are spiritually sharp, dude. You guys are like I know
you guys try to play it off like or whatever,
but you guys are sharp, dude, Like I don't. I mean, well,
if you just saw stuff and then you like made
your move on it, and I respect that.

Speaker 3 (01:45:54):
Yeah, I mean listen, a lot of people are critical
or skeptical of crypto, and I'm like, yeah you should
because the.

Speaker 2 (01:45:59):
Artist what it is? Though, bro, if it's a thing
they're using, like whatever, it's at one hundred, like even
the bitcoins like one hundred and twenty apiece, Like I
don't know how many billions of dollars are in that,
Like it's it's obviously something. It's something.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
I don't know what it is, a lot of people
have made money off that, but.

Speaker 2 (01:46:12):
What's an intriguing thing.

Speaker 4 (01:46:13):
Bro was like, if the like no money leaves the planet, right,
So like if stocks are at all time highs, gold
and silver are even at like all time highs or
more or less, and.

Speaker 2 (01:46:23):
There's all these extra money and like the cryptos that
didn't use to exist. It is a weird thing. Bro,
Is that all just the twenty twenty printed money just
had to go somewhere? Oh that's fascinating.

Speaker 3 (01:46:32):
It's also like, I mean, when you get into the
concept of what money really is, like even gold, I
don't really understand gold and.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
Silver money biblically.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
Yeah, but why well, I understands.

Speaker 4 (01:46:43):
That's a good question. But they always recognize it. I
think because of its preciousness.

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
Yeah, it's got some properties that are pretty unique, like
anti microbial properties silver especially. But what I don't understand
is crypto mining. Dude, I don't understand that at all.

Speaker 4 (01:46:56):
Wait, but back to the gold thing, So you on, like,
what are you on? You're like all the un and
knock he needed it to like make that's what he is.

Speaker 3 (01:47:03):
But I don't think it's I don't think it's far off.
I think that that story's nonsense.

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
But gold is valuable though because of its.

Speaker 3 (01:47:09):
Gold is a a good conductor of electricity, but like
why apparently it's not the best though not the best,
but it has it does have like transmutable characteristics, like
why did they give Jesus Frankencense gold Frankensnse and Murr
Was it just because this stuff smelled nice and looked cool?

Speaker 4 (01:47:25):
Now, well, not to cut you off, but he was
going into Egypt. They didn't have any money, so they
so the wise men, which probably came from under Daniel's tutelage.

Speaker 2 (01:47:35):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:47:35):
But hundreds of years later Jews who got taken into
Babylon that didn't go back, that should have went back.

Speaker 3 (01:47:41):
They knew they were supposed to give them Messiah this well.

Speaker 4 (01:47:43):
Yeah, they didn't necessarily know why, but it was right
on time, Like if we look at the story, then boom,
right then they bounced.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
He's a child. He's not a baby and a manger
with wise men. He's a baby and a manger with shepherds.
But then he's a child in a house with wise men.
They come, they bring him gold frames they needed the gold.
They were going to Agya.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
Yeah, but the Frankensense and Murror have other useful properties,
and I think the gold might have also, Like, so
we're talking about Daniel being a scientist, Well what kind
of science were they delving into? What were they doing, baby? Yeah,
what were they doing with the gold? Because when I
look at it, like look at my ring, uh you
see my ring on Matt's thing.

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
This I have.

Speaker 3 (01:48:20):
I have a white gold ring. My wife bought me
like two of them. I'm like, I just refuse to
wear it because like when I was working in construction, like,
I'm not gonna get caught I either.

Speaker 1 (01:48:28):
When now, yeah, this is just I wore mine all through.
It literally burned me. There's a scar around my finger
from the time that it got.

Speaker 2 (01:48:36):
Got on a nail one time, and I was like,
never again. I'll never wear this on a job almost.

Speaker 1 (01:48:40):
But now I just wear this.

Speaker 3 (01:48:41):
And I also like, I never wear like any gold
because I don't understand the appeal for people.

Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
They look at and they go, oh, look at the
shiny thing. Look at dying.

Speaker 4 (01:48:50):
Yeah, it is just one of these weird things though.
That's always been money from the beginning of time. We
could just blue their bible gold or silver and see
right when it starts to pop up and the scripture,
like Abraham's by eyeing the tomb where him Sarah where
they're all going to be buried at, he buys it
with silver, like it's just it's always been money, like
I guess now it's less money because it's so useful
for electronics. So you talk about like the silver price

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depression because they're using it for like the cars, the phones,
the solar panels.

Speaker 3 (01:49:18):
So it's kind of like inside of this inside of
this computer. When that's I mean, you can get real
crazy with them when you look at the microchips and
they zoom in and inside of that microchip is another
microchip and another one, and then it's designed kind of
like cities are designed that looks like the layout of Egypt.
It's the layout of Egypt or Babylon. You're like, what
the hell were you guys doing with the gold, Like
what were you and why is it?

Speaker 1 (01:49:39):
Why does it be?

Speaker 4 (01:49:40):
So you're saying, if they built like I don't know,
the as tech sorry, the Aztec Empire, like built all
this stuff and it looks just like a microchip, Yeah,
looks exactly the same. Maybe they were conducting like.

Speaker 3 (01:49:50):
That microchip is it's infused with pieces of gold that
conduct electricity. So when I clicked that button, we see this.
First off, Okay, it's not jewelry. This is this is
one of the things when I when I went to school,
I'm like, what the hell are you teaching me all
this stuff? Like you're teaching me chemistry. But I'm like,
it doesn't make sense in the way that you're teaching
me history. But I'm not interesting because it doesn't make
sense in the.

Speaker 1 (01:50:10):
Way you're teaching man. So when you're showing me jewelry.

Speaker 3 (01:50:12):
And you're saying, this thing has value because x Y,
I got to buy my wife a diamond ring to
propose to her, right.

Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
How is it different from me if I made it
out of bronze or something else.

Speaker 3 (01:50:20):
Yeah, and I Gosney for I'm just I'm looking at
the thing, and to me, it doesn't resonate. It never resonates.
Why it's important. Why do we see this as a
valuable system all throughout human history? Unless you know then
you you start to look at the Bible though they
were using it, what were they doing? And then you
have to think about how technological they were back in
the day. Daniel was a scientist. What it doesn't mention

(01:50:42):
what they were doing. Sure they were doing something. There's
definitely something abre this. I don't even know how we
got on, but.

Speaker 4 (01:50:47):
That's how God even explained it. He says, this is
the best empire, This is the empire of gold.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
From here man like this.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
I feel the same level of confusion when it comes
to things that supposedly smell good, like like like what
is frank consense and what is it?

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
They're just herbs?

Speaker 1 (01:51:02):
I think they have they have like properties there.

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
They're probably they don't have properties, but I'm just saying
ultimately they're a herb.

Speaker 1 (01:51:08):
Right. Well, so there's songs that we sing in church
and and some of them are about like the scent
of the oil and how that's like an offering.

Speaker 3 (01:51:15):
And there's like this like alabaster oil, and I'm like,
why is the scent of a thing. Importantly, it seems
to be that alabastera oil was the one that Mary right,
that she pours on Jesus.

Speaker 4 (01:51:27):
Yeah yeah, And Judas says, no, we should have sold
that and gave the money to the poor.

Speaker 1 (01:51:30):
That one, I think like t was a thief and
had the bag. He had the bag.

Speaker 3 (01:51:33):
It was it was different, but that oil was worth
a lot of money, was worth like almost an entire
year's salary at the time because I think like how
they had some contraction process.

Speaker 4 (01:51:42):
Yeah yeah, yeah, well I think that's why gold and
silver are valuable because of the extraction process.

Speaker 2 (01:51:46):
Like that, they weren't common things and it was very
like like I guess in that day doesn't In Solomon's day,
he sent u he sent people to offer I don't
know how you say O P h I R. He
like sent his servants there to go for gold. They
came back with gold, like like you had to pay
for that, so like every month you had to pay
for those servants and the ship.

Speaker 1 (01:52:05):
So like scarcity, ye mean it was.

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
That's why it was valuable.

Speaker 4 (01:52:09):
And at some point they said, hey, man, like I
can't trade you a horse for like your tomatoes because
you don't have enough tomatoes that add up to a
whole horse.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
So we have to come up with some kind of
trading system. They're like, well, this suff is valuable, but
it does bring up an intriguing dog like why it's
so electrically useful it's used in high tech devices?

Speaker 3 (01:52:27):
Like why is the dollar valuable right now? Because it's
not why is crypto valuable? It's really not none if
it's valuable, but gold.

Speaker 1 (01:52:35):
Is well gold, you could actually replace your tooth with it,
like it's antimicrobil. That's it, that's valuable. That's a joke, right,
But like they're digging up skeletons from like you know
the Aztec that have chunks of their skeleton replaced with gold,
like like they were doing.

Speaker 3 (01:52:49):
Jack Bonson says that it's always shining, and it's like, sure,
but I'd like to think that just the shininess of
a thing doesn't give it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:57):
Like who said, is that way they use the seale it?
Noah's ark gold? Is that what he's asking?

Speaker 1 (01:53:01):
Oh that's interesting. Oh, I don't know, dude, Spencer said.

Speaker 2 (01:53:03):
And the King James said it was made with gopher
would look.

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
Somebody said, because frankincense stops inflammation and kills cancer cells
and your body speculation for YouTube, We don't know. Could
well be, we don't know that that's true. But your
body doesn't reject gold. So your body will reject all
sorts of things, but it won't reject gold.

Speaker 3 (01:53:20):
It's it's very interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:53:21):
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:53:22):
We got to have somebody to come in and talk
about gold and not just like a macroeconomics professor or
a microeconomics professor.

Speaker 1 (01:53:28):
Good time to plug. This episode is brought to you
by Wise Wolf gold and silver.

Speaker 2 (01:53:31):
That's not sure that that's not true. That's why it
was in.

Speaker 1 (01:53:36):
One long, elaborate plug.

Speaker 3 (01:53:38):
All right, let's let's continue. Let's continue because we got.

Speaker 4 (01:53:41):
Yeah, I'm just saying that it's probably better that we
didn't really dive into that too much anyway, because like, uh,
that could go a lot of ways, man. But history
did bear this out that this was accurate, Like this
is exactly what happens, even in this book the Means
and Persians the Silver Empire come and take over in
that one. So that happens, and then history bears witness
to Alexander the Great came next, that was Grease they

(01:54:03):
took over, and then after that was Rome.

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
So so it was biblically the Bible was accurate.

Speaker 1 (01:54:07):
And that's wild because part of my brain was like,
why why can't he try it? But he would never
have had the context to interpret his own dream because
he couldn't see the future that was coming.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
Right, he couldn't even remember it. Yeah, but he on
he could. Yeah, he would have no clue.

Speaker 3 (01:54:21):
It's weird that this this specific dream freaked him out
that much because it seems like it's just a dream
of a statue.

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
But like I guess, you know, it must have just shook.

Speaker 4 (01:54:28):
But yeah, but it's just a statue. And then this
thing comes out that wasn't cut with hands and destroys
the whole statue vibe. Ultimately, the Kingdom of God is
what comes and destroys that whole system, whatever the iron
and the clay and the toes, whatever that is. That's
when Jesus comes back and destroys the whole thing. But
the whole statue dies, whatever's left of whatever's left of

(01:54:48):
the gold and the silver and the bronze. The whole
thing's destroyed, and then there's a kingdom that never ends. Okay,
all right, okay, Then Nebukunezer fell on his face and
worshiped Daniel.

Speaker 2 (01:55:00):
You're going to see this theme a lot. You're just
like Joe Pashi, is it in a good fella said
what happened to the tough guy?

Speaker 1 (01:55:06):
You see?

Speaker 2 (01:55:06):
You're gonna see that a lot, Dude like Nemakanzer. It's
like yeah, I'm the man. And then all of a
sudden he's like, Okay, your guy's god is the real god.

Speaker 4 (01:55:14):
Then King nemakan Are fell in his face and worshiped
Daniel and commanded that they should offer an oblation and
sweet odors unto him.

Speaker 1 (01:55:20):
I see route, It's like, I don't know stuff with
the odors.

Speaker 2 (01:55:23):
I don't know. I don't know what they are.

Speaker 4 (01:55:25):
But that's why the people in the occult love the
like sage and the stuff, and they're blow like thing.

Speaker 2 (01:55:29):
It's like for his stuff. And then people are all
like weird new age hippies and something like no, no,
I just want to grow food.

Speaker 4 (01:55:34):
But I want to talk to you guys about what
foods you're growing at your house and now you can
grow it. And dude, they'd come around like if you
stay till night there's a fire going, you think it's
super chill.

Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
And now they're coming around with the weird stuff and
they're like blowing the smoke in your face.

Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
It's strange incense.

Speaker 2 (01:55:46):
You're like, can we just chill? I just want to
talk about feeling.

Speaker 3 (01:55:48):
Now you line those chocolates babies, well, I wear a cologne.

Speaker 1 (01:55:52):
I could literally go my whole life without ever wearing
Colone all other thing.

Speaker 3 (01:55:56):
I'm such like a retard, like a practical retard that like,
I'm like, I don't understand the value of like having
a gold chain or gold putting a colonna.

Speaker 4 (01:56:05):
I like, I like to smell good, but like, no,
if you get the five dollars one bro, just don't
spray on your skin because it's toxic. But you get
the five dollar I want to do one spray on
the shirt just so you don't smell like spread bad thing.

Speaker 3 (01:56:15):
Yeah, I get deodorant, I get a shower, but I'm like,
sometimes I'll do the colone, but when I do it,
I'm very aware.

Speaker 1 (01:56:21):
Of what what am I doing.

Speaker 2 (01:56:22):
Yeah, a fair point, my ballid point.

Speaker 3 (01:56:24):
This is like value point, so that when people walk
by me, they go, dude, smells like curve or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:56:30):
People walk by. It's when the white walks by.

Speaker 3 (01:56:32):
That's yeah. My wife is the one who buys.

Speaker 1 (01:56:35):
Trying to impress her.

Speaker 3 (01:56:37):
We're good, we got this, but it's just it's things
that go through my brain. We got a ten dollars
super chat from mad Packs.

Speaker 2 (01:56:44):

Speaker 1 (01:56:44):
I've heard you guys say that if people pay us yeah,
and you know, and then we made a comment. Yeah
they wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:56:51):
I wouldn't recommend it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:52):
As financial advice, but yeah they do mad packs.

Speaker 2 (01:56:55):
Look you want to read it ahead, good chat, gentlemen.
Glory to Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:57:01):
Base base man. And he wanted, I don't know why,
so like.

Speaker 2 (01:57:04):
The psychology, like I'll give you ten bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:57:06):
Let me say this, Well you know what that means.

Speaker 3 (01:57:08):
They find this of some value. No, so Matt, Matt's
a boomer. We're gonna explain the Internet to him here. Yeah, right, No,
they said that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:14):
Was a clown. When you said, yeah, it's not that's
not it. It wasn't born in nineteen eighty brom like,
not a boomer. Well, it's lots of spiritual conditions.

Speaker 3 (01:57:28):
So when somebody super chats, this person here is saying
not necessarily to get on the screen. It seems like
this is like they want to give us ten dollars
because they like what we're saying. And they're just saying
a thing, and I like the thing because you have
to you can't just give the money without it, so
you have to type in something. So people who just
find value in it and want to.

Speaker 1 (01:57:45):
Contribute, they're basically like, yeah, that's just like a but
some people will get money and they'll be like, I
got a question from Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:57:52):
Actually need to do this, but they should send more
money because all this stuff's expensive. All the things are spence.

Speaker 1 (01:58:00):
This episode is brought to you by the Standard Coffee Shop.
All right, all right, well, well thank you, thank you, Matt.
We'll put up this banner so that way we could
super chats. We'll be read at the end of the shot. Yeah,
well we we can't say that because oftentimes we don't
remember boomer Well, I mean, you know, like I said,
it's a spiritual condition, much more so than a than

(01:58:22):
a generation. Well, it's up, it's a.

Speaker 2 (01:58:26):
Boomer.

Speaker 3 (01:58:26):
Who is gen z I'm a millennial. Well we'll figure
it out. We'll figure out if Matt's a boomer, but
right now we're giving him the benefit of behave.

Speaker 2 (01:58:34):
Okay, fair enough, No, that's fair. Like I don't know
any of the text stuff because I was in construction too,
so I didn't even have like a computer for the
longest time.

Speaker 1 (01:58:41):
Yeah, yeah, I still don't know he's a boomer, for
I forgot what he did just you know.

Speaker 3 (01:58:47):
Oh, oh it's texting. No, calling is another one.

Speaker 1 (01:58:50):
He calls you a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:58:51):
That's boomer behavior. You said that, he said that. He
said that, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:58:55):
I like what Matt calls me. You know. Now he's
not going to call me anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:58:59):
All right, let's texting you to read. See he's very antisocial.

Speaker 2 (01:59:03):
I don't know. People don't like calls. Bro Like I
don't like calls.

Speaker 1 (01:59:06):
I don't like But if there's a thing we had
to talk about, I don't want to do one hundred texts. Yeah, yeah,
I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:59:10):
Well, if it's doesn't take like two texts, you got
to find it. He said, yeah, what time we meeting today?
And he sent the lobster and I was like, that's yeah,
little boomerie. You know, the use of emojis, it's pretty boomery.

Speaker 1 (01:59:20):
If we going to fix them, I don't know. I
think it's endearing. Okay, come please, please, let's get it.
He started to worship Daniel. That's a problem, Yeah, Daniel.
He better have shook that off.

Speaker 3 (01:59:29):
He better said, not me, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:59:32):
God, Yeah, that's a fair point. Yeah, forty six. He
worships Daniel.

Speaker 1 (01:59:35):
Does Daniel correct that? Does Daniel go like, nah, dude,
it's not me it's God, because he even tells him preemptively.
He's like, there is a God that can interpret your dreams.

Speaker 2 (01:59:45):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:59:46):
This scenario is a lot like when Joseph gets put
into his position in Egypt.

Speaker 2 (01:59:50):
It's almost just like, okay, this kind of has to happen.
He's just kind of like, okay, let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
Gotcha, gotcha. There's one of those things where he's like
it's God, and he's like, Daniel, stop being humble.

Speaker 3 (01:59:59):
He's like, no, seer, your his computer's just down.

Speaker 2 (02:00:03):
There was no audio for the whole I no, no, no,
that was just a charger. Look at he got all worried.
They hear us.

Speaker 1 (02:00:10):
They're doing Spencer with the emoji's.

Speaker 2 (02:00:12):
Very boomer, big boomer, big boomer.

Speaker 1 (02:00:15):
All right.

Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
So okay, so this is what when you said a
hybrid Bible study.

Speaker 1 (02:00:19):
Now I get it where we just interrupt you constantly.

Speaker 2 (02:00:22):
No, I love that.

Speaker 4 (02:00:23):
I'm just saying, like, you're right, we're not like keeping
it like on the Bible the whole time. So it
is a hybrid Bible.

Speaker 2 (02:00:28):
This is bad.

Speaker 1 (02:00:29):
God doesn't like you don't know, It doesn't know.

Speaker 4 (02:00:31):
This is like how you guys talk this is how
your people in the chats like communicate. God talks to people,
how they communicate. You just have this conversation and then maybe,
you know, you start talking about other stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:00:41):
Next time we do this, I'm going to figure out
how to get like your logo in the back because
it's weird.

Speaker 1 (02:00:45):
It would be cool standard coffee shop. Coffee shop.

Speaker 2 (02:00:47):
I don't you guys don't have to do that. We
want to do that.

Speaker 1 (02:00:50):
It's easy, it's easy, don't worry about Okay, let's let's
let's continue before I forget.

Speaker 2 (02:00:54):
I'm sorry to do it in the middle of the show.
Can you create a logo that's like our standard logo
like that, you know how it's a circle, and then
you do like an NDS one around it, even if
it's just as simple as a spot. So then when
we do the shirt, which only we know what's going
to be on the shirt, but on the front, it's
going to have our logo right here.

Speaker 4 (02:01:12):
But one if it's like in collaboration with the NDS,
so there's like a cool thing around it, I.

Speaker 3 (02:01:16):
Could figure that lighting in it, like going around.

Speaker 2 (02:01:19):
Oh, but it's like a circle thing that says it.

Speaker 1 (02:01:22):
Well, actually, let's let's.

Speaker 4 (02:01:23):
Care that one's got to be a collapes. It's like, yeah,
it's got to be a collaboration. I can't just say,
like our logo on the fronts with the bad thing on.

Speaker 1 (02:01:29):
The back, we could just put a little one on
the sleeve.

Speaker 3 (02:01:32):
Yeah that's maybe maybe, Uh, I think a good idea
if if people like that will introduce it to uh,
to these guys, this is this is a.

Speaker 1 (02:01:40):
Love this shirt.

Speaker 3 (02:01:41):
Yeah, yeah, it's my computers. There we go boom, So
this is a it's it's our depiction of Elijah the
tish bite. Well, should we tell them that's Elijah would
make them guess it's.

Speaker 2 (02:01:53):
Too late now they know as soon as you see
the tish bite they know.

Speaker 3 (02:01:56):
Yeah, yeah, so it's him there and he's uh he's
bringing down five or crushing cooling down fire, God's fire
on uh on.

Speaker 1 (02:02:04):
Those people pumped about it or they're not. They're not
pumped at they don't want.

Speaker 2 (02:02:07):
One thing is none of those guys have slit wrists though,
like in the story, they're cut.

Speaker 1 (02:02:11):
They yeah, we need some blood. Shoot now do that
just killed the color you want on this thing?

Speaker 2 (02:02:17):
Because he wants some color.

Speaker 4 (02:02:18):
We want to You can't do black and white where
it's just like blood gushing though what it was, that's
the story these guys are like, that's how they contacted
their gods.

Speaker 2 (02:02:26):
Like the blood, like blood's going everywhere.

Speaker 3 (02:02:28):
You want to cut them up a little bit, all right,
I guess we could do that.

Speaker 1 (02:02:30):
We can figure that out.

Speaker 3 (02:02:31):
But yeah, we're getting it as close to biblically accurate
as possible. And maybe we'll do uh, maybe the water,
the water on it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:37):
Because people don't know, like Elijah's it's Elijah versus eight
hundred and fifty false profits.

Speaker 1 (02:02:42):
Look, somebody already needs that shirt, yo, Lias, Yeah, yo low.
I don't know how to pronounce.

Speaker 2 (02:02:49):
Yeah, the ux the aux.

Speaker 1 (02:02:51):
That's low low like color version.

Speaker 2 (02:02:53):
That's legit. Bro likes it, artists, he loves it. Well,
there's no way to have it on there. Huh.

Speaker 3 (02:02:59):
That makes yeah, But I just this takes a while
to do, Matt. You know, it's it's not just it's
not just that it just happens like that.

Speaker 1 (02:03:05):
But we got to finish that. We got to finish
I'm sorry, the whole Book of Dame.

Speaker 3 (02:03:08):
Maybe we'll make that available and that would be that
would be cool, so people could know about the stand.

Speaker 2 (02:03:12):
But anybody in the chat, you think they'd even buy it?

Speaker 1 (02:03:14):
Or guys, would you like it? If you would you
buy the shirt? They said, I need that shirt.

Speaker 2 (02:03:19):
That's what Yolo said, shout out yellow.

Speaker 1 (02:03:21):
They they'll buy it if they if they like it,
we'll see see scruffy. Von Winkle says all the way
to the bank that that. I think that means you
buy with that.

Speaker 2 (02:03:29):
Yeah, we should touch on that. That's another thing I
texted Joe Rogan about, Oh.

Speaker 1 (02:03:33):
Yeah, what's up.

Speaker 3 (02:03:34):
I don't want to get into that minute right now?

Speaker 2 (02:03:36):
Okay, yeah, right now.

Speaker 1 (02:03:37):
But because the top keeps going on these long winded diversions,
and I don't think we're trying to get crazy of us.

Speaker 2 (02:03:42):
I mean, the story itself is crazy, but I think
it's crazy to kill chill complex. It's just not that complex.

Speaker 1 (02:03:47):
Kids. Those kids had it coming.

Speaker 2 (02:03:49):
Honestly, they weren't kids. Like That's the other issue with
the translation is that like, oh yeah, it wasn't children.

Speaker 1 (02:03:54):
Hm, how old were they?

Speaker 4 (02:03:56):
And they were they were saying, go up, baldy, go up, baldy.
They were like make in front of him, and they
were mocking him because like Elijah had got taken up,
Go up, Go up. So it was like Elijah had
got taken up. Elijah was a hairy.

Speaker 2 (02:04:08):
Man, like this dude was like bald, Like maybe they
were making fun of him he was bald.

Speaker 1 (02:04:11):
I mean, would that just possibly mean that he wasn't
like bodily hairy?

Speaker 4 (02:04:16):
Maybe yeah, I mean, well no, I think it says
he was bald like it would have been. Yeah, probably
referring to like his hair. But into that we'll read
that like my bad descripture. Okay, just don't ever do
that again.

Speaker 1 (02:04:27):
Yeah, please, Also mad Pax, he wants to have those shirts.

Speaker 3 (02:04:31):
Okay, so yeah, I'm not going to send him to
but you could buy him. I guess you already sold
four right there, come to you, you gotta. They'll be
in the coffee shop first, and then we'll make it
available on.

Speaker 2 (02:04:38):
Top put on the lobster at the same time.

Speaker 1 (02:04:42):
Coffee shop first, geez, got buy look at him calling shots.

Speaker 2 (02:04:46):
No, I just don't want to get the beneficiary of express.

Speaker 3 (02:04:49):
So we'll do we'll do like a riffsplit on top
watch dot com. So it'll be cool, it'll be fine.
You guys will figure it out. We'll we'll we'll figure
that out, okay.

Speaker 2 (02:04:56):
Verse forty six.

Speaker 4 (02:04:57):
Then King Neba Keanezer fell upon his face and worshiped
Daniel and a man, that they should offer him an
oblation and sweet odors under him.

Speaker 2 (02:05:03):
The king answered and Daniel and said, of a truth,
it is that your God is a god of gods,
a upper case g god of lowercase g gods.

Speaker 3 (02:05:11):
Oh that's a great delineation there.

Speaker 4 (02:05:13):
And a lord of kings, and a revealer of secret.
Seeing you could reveal this secret. Yeah, the lowercase g
gods thing is a major theme of scriptures, not a
minor thing of scriptures, a major thing. Then the King
made Daniel a great man and gave him many great gifts,
and made him ruler over the whole province of Babylon,
and chief of the governors over all the wise men

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of Babylon. Then Daniel requested of the king, and he
set Shadrack Mishak and a bend to go over the
affairs of the province of Babylon. But Daniel sat in
the gate of the king.

Speaker 1 (02:05:41):
So he was like, put on my homiesew yes, nice, yeah, nice, that's.

Speaker 2 (02:05:45):
A great dude, gets like a record deal and he's
like you got.

Speaker 1 (02:05:49):
To sign these dudes not as talented, but he's actually
the guys in the UFC, two of them, very interesting,
two spinning elbow knockouts yesterday.

Speaker 3 (02:05:56):
Each of them said to Dana White afterward.

Speaker 1 (02:05:59):
Hire my homie. Really, yeah, that never happens. That's interesting.
Complete side note. I like the UFC, but yeah, very interesting. Shutout.

Speaker 2 (02:06:06):
That's respect.

Speaker 4 (02:06:07):
He's like, these are my guys, bro, Like, don't forget
they covered me in prayer before I went in, Like,
don't like, don't forget that, like this, this is not
just me they were, it's God. But if there's humans
involved too, those were definitely the humans involved. Let's get
them in the mix, all right.

Speaker 2 (02:06:20):
Which remember again he knew they were ten times better
than everybody to begin with.

Speaker 3 (02:06:25):
So it's not untalented home long story, right, But here's
the thing. Like we the first time we had spoken
in the coffee shop shoutouts standard coffee shop. Oh yeah,
we were talking about like like the homeless guy, and
I told you, I was like, damn, how far?

Speaker 1 (02:06:37):
How far?

Speaker 2 (02:06:38):
Am I?

Speaker 1 (02:06:38):
Like?

Speaker 3 (02:06:38):
We're only like a step or two removed from being that.
So it's like remembering, like the idea of remembering, like
who you are, and the people that helped you get
there too, is a big deal in probably not falling down.

Speaker 1 (02:06:50):
I think I can still.

Speaker 3 (02:06:52):
Taste the sourness of the the pungentness of the dumpster
still right there, dunking dumpsters.

Speaker 4 (02:06:58):
No thing about this, right, Like God is the god
of Israel, but he's the god of the whole planet too, right, So,
like he just got his boys into the cabinet of
the most powerful empire on the planet.

Speaker 2 (02:07:10):
So now the influence of the Jews is in Babylon.
Do you see what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 (02:07:15):
Now they're having influence, right, they're having influence in society.
Who knows again, how many Jews were there that like
weren't necessarily doing.

Speaker 2 (02:07:24):
Anything, but they were there. Yeah, right, these dudes were
doing stuff, yeah, super juice.

Speaker 4 (02:07:29):
And now they're having a Now they're having like a
they're having like such an effect on the society like there,
and we don't have all the stories of day to
day life there, but.

Speaker 2 (02:07:38):
Clearly they had an effect on society. Now all right, Okay,
so chapter three, verse one, do you see what he's doing.

Speaker 1 (02:07:49):
I'm reading it, I'm preemptively reading it. You see what
he's doing?

Speaker 2 (02:07:52):
Yeah, dude, that's an interesting Oh, the head's made of gold,
and then there's silver and bronze, and then there's iron. No,
I don't think so. Hmmm.

Speaker 3 (02:08:00):
Nebezer the King made an image of gold whose height
was three score cubits. What is that?

Speaker 1 (02:08:06):
Cus?

Speaker 2 (02:08:07):
I don't know what do they say a foot and
a half per cuba or something? I don't know, but
but I thought this was like ninety feet. But anyway,
that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (02:08:14):
Think about that in relation to the dream, Like, Oh,
you're gonna tell me the history is going to go
like this. No, no, no, the thing's staying gold. The
whole thing's gold. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. He's like, no, no,
you're never taking me down. This is this whole thing
that starts to go back and forth between God and
Neba canezer Bro which unpacks in the next couple of chapters,
and it's a wild.

Speaker 1 (02:08:31):
Yeah, that is wild. So he's like he's blown away
with the with the interpretation. Unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (02:08:38):
This person opted not to say anything, Wow, man made Brew.

Speaker 2 (02:08:42):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:08:42):
He must enjoy quffy too. Brew. Does he work for you?
That's crazy? Unbelievable, Thank you very much, man Brew.

Speaker 2 (02:08:48):
He doesn't even have it.

Speaker 1 (02:08:49):
Look, he says, don't have an attached text at the
bottom there.

Speaker 3 (02:08:52):
Mama Lobster says, frankinsense is used for healings.

Speaker 1 (02:08:55):
She uses it for her knees.

Speaker 3 (02:08:56):
She didn't know that it's a strong, great custurizer.

Speaker 2 (02:09:01):
Yeah, oh, Nancy said, one qbit equals one point five feet.

Speaker 1 (02:09:05):
That's our producer. We don't talk to Nancy.

Speaker 2 (02:09:06):
Yeah, don't my bed. She's not a good person, you know,
Thank you Nancy. Right, so he makes this, he makes
this image of gold. Right then then he says this.

Speaker 3 (02:09:18):
The image is an interesting use of words as well.

Speaker 2 (02:09:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:09:21):
Yeah, you know, the Book of Revelation is talking about
the anti Christ will be, uh the image he will be.

Speaker 2 (02:09:27):
The image of the beast.

Speaker 1 (02:09:28):
Yeah, you know, like let us make them in our
image image image, image.

Speaker 4 (02:09:33):
Idols images lowercase g gods are wrapped up in.

Speaker 2 (02:09:37):
This is where people get it wrong.

Speaker 4 (02:09:38):
They're like, oh, these ancient, stupid people, they just made
a statue and thought that was God. No, No, that
little statue was in worship of the lower case G
god that did exist.

Speaker 1 (02:09:47):
I'm coming to the point in my life where I'm like,
these ancient people knew it.

Speaker 2 (02:09:53):
We don't know anything. I mean, like think of how
helpless we are. So as you will say, oh, you
have a farm, like you grow your own food, You're
you're a prepper.

Speaker 4 (02:10:01):
No, no, it's just called life. Like everybody just did that.
The only reason you would call that a prepper is because, like.

Speaker 2 (02:10:08):
Everybody is dependent on the system.

Speaker 4 (02:10:10):
Yeah, that's the only reason you would call it that,
The only reason you would say, oh, you're.

Speaker 1 (02:10:14):
Doing that just so if the world comes to you,
you can go to McDonald's. No, nobody can't get a
human burger. This got weird, but you don't think that's true.

Speaker 2 (02:10:23):
But that's only weird because people are not doing that anymore. Yeah, yeah,
he's over the top.

Speaker 1 (02:10:29):
You don't think that's weird.

Speaker 3 (02:10:30):
He crosses the line. Yeah that's fine though. I think
they make you think that they make them money.

Speaker 1 (02:10:36):
There actually is. It's not. It's not even a thing.

Speaker 2 (02:10:38):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (02:10:38):
It's not there's articles, articles, no.

Speaker 2 (02:10:41):
No thing. Yeah, the FDA has sound human stuff and
then just a little a little bit.

Speaker 3 (02:10:48):
No, they have they have a statistical you can you
just hold that up the whole time. Yeah, the f
d A has like a statistical amount percentage of human
meat that is permissible.

Speaker 1 (02:11:00):
Within food that you like.

Speaker 3 (02:11:02):
I thought this was like listen, I don't know why
they would have that, but they do.

Speaker 2 (02:11:06):
Wait, we're saying the FDA, is it a certain amount
of human with woods?

Speaker 1 (02:11:11):
Yeah, like you can find a certain amount of coppera
what you like.

Speaker 2 (02:11:14):
They were grinding it and the fingernail got caught in
the finger got caught in the burn.

Speaker 3 (02:11:18):
Some dude folds into like the thing and like they're
like the Brooklyn Bridge. You know about the Brooklyn Bridge.

Speaker 1 (02:11:22):
How that's made.

Speaker 3 (02:11:23):
I mean, like man Indians, the dudes that were working
on this folding into it and you got a huge
concrete mixer pouring has to keep going.

Speaker 1 (02:11:32):
We're going to stop it. Do you get that guy out?
It's done. It's like, do you think you're going to
stop burger production because a man fell into the vand
dog people people got.

Speaker 2 (02:11:41):
Anyway? You know why?

Speaker 1 (02:11:41):
Because the Nephelom were cannibals. They want us to be cannibals.

Speaker 3 (02:11:44):
Honestly, it's it could be, but it could just be
because it could just be because.

Speaker 1 (02:11:49):
You know, the Nephilie looked like clowns. Think about Ron McDonald.

Speaker 2 (02:11:52):
Don't get me started on that guy. What's he doing?

Speaker 3 (02:11:54):
I don't know, that's kind of why's he got that
children's foundation? I'm looking this up here, but they're there's
anyway let's continue with. Sorry, dude, there's a certain amount
of like rodent meat, rodent hair, and that's that's yeah,
that's fine. All kinds of stuff that is allowed to
be human remains a term human remains as popular in
the FDA filth, So human hair, things like that.

Speaker 1 (02:12:16):
But they found teeth whatever, let's read. Let's keep the Bible.

Speaker 4 (02:12:19):
So he builds this, Uh, he builds this giant thing.
It's so many cubits tall. It's an image of gold.
And then uh, the princes, the governors, the captains, the judges,
the treasurers, the counselors, the sheriff's and all the rulers
the provinces were gathered together under the dedication of the image.

Speaker 2 (02:12:36):
So it's a dedication of the image.

Speaker 1 (02:12:37):
It's crazy, have you learned nothing?

Speaker 2 (02:12:39):
This is like this is like anti Christ vibes. The
whole thing doesn't have like anti Christ vibes, do it. Uh?

Speaker 4 (02:12:44):
That never connads to the king's set up. And they
stood before the image that never had set up. Then
the herald cried out to you and is commanded old
people's nations and languages that at what time you hear
I'm not going to read all these instruments because they
sound crazy. But at the time you hear all the instruments,
you fall down and worship the golden image At nem Coniser,
the king is set up.

Speaker 3 (02:13:00):
Whoever miss being like like music?

Speaker 2 (02:13:02):
Is that what you're okay?

Speaker 1 (02:13:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:13:03):
You know they're playing like the flute, the harp, the
king James others read it the corner at the flute,
the harp, the sack, butt, saltry, dulcimmer and all kinds
of music.

Speaker 2 (02:13:11):
So those are those are I play the sack, But
now they're a band with at least like six or
eight instruments.

Speaker 1 (02:13:17):
Music is spilled odd also m U S I C
the same way they that Crowley spells magic. That's what
I was gonna yeah, yeah, when they get into like
that ye black magic game.

Speaker 2 (02:13:27):
English is a weird English bro that strange strange.

Speaker 4 (02:13:30):
Okay, So when you hear the music, you gotta fall
down and worship this newsoever falls not down and worships
shall the same hour be cast in the midst of
a burning fiery furnace.

Speaker 2 (02:13:38):
I guess this was a way of death that they
had in that time. It was like a giant burning
fiery furs and shaped like a bull.

Speaker 1 (02:13:44):
Could have been who was right, little molachey and was
an owl, wasn't he?

Speaker 3 (02:13:48):
My nerve is an owl that got co opted to be.

Speaker 2 (02:13:52):
Well.

Speaker 1 (02:13:52):
Bail is a terminology that means king or lord. But
Moloch was depicted as a large bull. Yeah, and they
would sacrifice people inside of it a big brass bowl
they would.

Speaker 3 (02:14:02):
Yeah, this thing must have been cooking all day because.

Speaker 2 (02:14:04):
I mean that was like what kind of children like bad.

Speaker 3 (02:14:07):
Ones, mostly misbehaving ones.

Speaker 1 (02:14:09):
What are you talking about the sacrifice of children?

Speaker 2 (02:14:12):
Which kind don't?

Speaker 3 (02:14:13):
Like, don't give your children to the fires of Moloch
because people were.

Speaker 2 (02:14:16):
Doing that for yeah, the abortion of that day.

Speaker 1 (02:14:19):
Yeah, yeah, I mean abortion is a termination while they're
in the womb.

Speaker 4 (02:14:23):
No, but I'm like the same concept though, innocent blood
being sacrificed, Yeah, very much so, yeah, false god.

Speaker 3 (02:14:29):
Yeah, it's and for like for convenience or pleasure like that.

Speaker 4 (02:14:33):
And I'm sure that society had reasons why it wasn't
just okay, it was good too, it was Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:14:38):
You like, dog, we're gonna make we need rain, like, oh,
we need to you know, I need to get like,
I need to work my job. I got to I
have like a you know, nine five doors, so I
can't have this kid.

Speaker 1 (02:14:48):
So it's like convenience kind of great man.

Speaker 2 (02:14:52):
So then verse seven, therefore, at the time when all
the people heard the music, Uh, all this this is
crazy too.

Speaker 4 (02:15:00):
This is why it's Antichrist vibes man. All the people
and nations and languages. So it's like everybody's represented here
fell down and worshiped the golden image that Nemzer the
King had set up.

Speaker 2 (02:15:11):
This is an interesting line.

Speaker 1 (02:15:13):
The next one.

Speaker 2 (02:15:14):
Wherefore, at the time, certain Kaladeans came near and accused
the Jews.

Speaker 1 (02:15:19):

Speaker 2 (02:15:20):
They accused the Jews of not bowing and worshiping.

Speaker 1 (02:15:22):
Oh okay, yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (02:15:25):
A that's like a trigger phrase for you. I didn't
like that.

Speaker 1 (02:15:28):
I was like, they're doing it again, but this time
they're they're not doing it. Well, yeah, they're not chucking
the kids or anybody into the golden image of but it.

Speaker 2 (02:15:38):
Was certain Jews. Verse twelve says there's certain Jews, so
it's not just the Jews. There's certain Jews whom you
set over the affairs of the province of Babylon shad
drag mishak, and have been to go. These men, o
King have not regarded thee They serve not thy gods,
nor worshiped the golden image that you have set up.

Speaker 1 (02:15:54):
These are his homies though now these are Yeah, so
who knows.

Speaker 4 (02:15:58):
Maybe there was Jews in the land that did not
bow to it, but they didn't make a big deal
out of that. They were common people. But they were like,
these dudes are in your cabinet and they're not bowing
to the image.

Speaker 1 (02:16:07):
You got to make an example.

Speaker 2 (02:16:08):
Yeah, ah, this dude is an idiot.

Speaker 4 (02:16:10):
Or maybe just like they, like the the Jews in
that day were bowing to it. They were like, well,
we're in Babylon.

Speaker 2 (02:16:16):
Let's just go with the flow. Let's not rock the boat.

Speaker 1 (02:16:18):
They did a golden calf thing before, and I mean
it it is kind of.

Speaker 2 (02:16:23):
But there's always that.

Speaker 4 (02:16:23):
There's always the dudes that won't compromise and they actually
do something, they actually have some kind of impact on everything.

Speaker 2 (02:16:30):
This has.

Speaker 1 (02:16:32):
What is it like the pharaoh vibes, you know, where
it's like no matter how many times he sees He's
still like yeah, you and douchey stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:16:38):
Well, the world rulers, they do always kind of seem
to be under the same spirit. They do the same
thing over and over again.

Speaker 3 (02:16:44):
This next one can it's almost it's almost unfair, right,
I mean we spoke with Ed Mabry about it. Like
when God sends Pharaoh like a great deception because he
doesn't want to see the truth. Well, he can't stop
every every single time he brings another plague. It's like
Pharaoh's kind of like he's gonna then he's like nah na,
like because God is God is not allowing him to submit,

(02:17:05):
which is I mean he said, well the way you.

Speaker 2 (02:17:09):
Guys probably don't know this, but you're like a major
war within the church, Like oh yeah, the major war.

Speaker 4 (02:17:14):
Maybe you do know, I don't know, like if you
have free will or not, and makes Pharaoh do it.
But it starts off with Pharaoh had a hard heart. Yeah,
starts off with that. Like whereas I think God's like,
whatever you want to be, bro, I'll help you with that.
Like like Judas, He's like, hey, man, you're a thief.
I'll put you in charge of the money.

Speaker 2 (02:17:30):
Pharaoh. You want to have a hard heart, I'll help
you have a hard heart. I don't think it's like
God reached inside the Pharaoh and did righty tidy and
made his heart.

Speaker 3 (02:17:37):
Well that's what Ed said.

Speaker 1 (02:17:38):
It was like he had a choice and he didn't
do the thing, and then God was like, here's a plague,
and it basically makes Pharaoh.

Speaker 3 (02:17:45):
Even the punishment is continually consistent with his transgression.

Speaker 4 (02:17:49):
Yeah, this is a unique dude, Bro. He thinks he's
a god, right right, because this isn't a common person.
So like if you attach all your doctrine to Pharaoh,
it's like he's a very unique individual who thinks he's
a god.

Speaker 3 (02:17:59):
But I don't think it was unfair. It was like
he kept giving him the option.

Speaker 2 (02:18:02):
Well, he says that.

Speaker 4 (02:18:05):
It makes reference to that God said I raised him
up for this purpose, like God who looked at mankind
all at once, all knows all the time, here knows everything.
Says Hey, man, I gotta have somebody in Egypt who
will defy me the entire time, and like a normal
asshole would probably you know, they're they're going to be
moved by the plague.

Speaker 2 (02:18:23):
A real mean guy, man.

Speaker 4 (02:18:24):
He might even not repent after three plagues, maybe the
Hitler type he's not even gonna repent after six plagues.
But this dude, Pharaoh, bro, I'm gonna bring ten plagues,
I'm gonna dust all the firstborn in Egypt and he's still.

Speaker 2 (02:18:35):
Not going to repent. Well, this is what I'm saying.
He knew him from the beginning of times that, yeah,
this is the guy I need to have in that role.

Speaker 1 (02:18:41):
Well, that's like the idea that satan is is a
necessary entity, that that is there for the development of
human beings. It's a tool that God uses and that's yeah,
there's goblins in the doorway children. Yeah, all right, so
let's let's let's get through.

Speaker 3 (02:18:57):
Let's get through this part here and then we'll record up.

Speaker 2 (02:19:00):
Okay, yeah, no, this is this is good right here.

Speaker 1 (02:19:03):
Okay, let's let's continue.

Speaker 4 (02:19:04):
So they accused him then never can Are, and his
rage and fury commanded to bring Shadrack Mishak into Bendigo.
Then they brought these men before the king Nebkinzer spake
and said into them, is it true, Oh, Shadrack Mishak
and a Bendigo, do not you serve my gods nor
worship the golden image which I have set up. Now,
if you be ready, then at what time you hear
the instruments, you fall down and worship the image which

(02:19:26):
I've made. But if not, you shall be the same hour.
You shall be cast the same hour in the midst
of a burning, fiery furnace. And who is that God
that shall deliver you out of my hands?

Speaker 2 (02:19:36):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (02:19:36):
So yeah, you hear that when you hear that sec
but you're gonna You're gonna fall down, You're gonna worship
this image. If none of that, he was gonna.

Speaker 3 (02:19:44):
Save you home.

Speaker 2 (02:19:45):
But He's like the same of these guys. I love
how this thing I'm full. He is like, all right, boys,
is your last chance? Yeah? Yeah, that's what he said,
is like get your last chance.

Speaker 4 (02:19:53):
And I don't know who you think you are, but
what God's gonna save you like he didn't already know,
is what I'm saying. This unfolds over who knows how
many years or how many decades.

Speaker 2 (02:20:01):
Because we read it like this is Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (02:20:03):
The next chapter, chapter two was Tuesday, and like, dude,
you just saw what happened, Like no, not really.

Speaker 2 (02:20:08):
He just said how powerful Daniel's God was maybe that
was how does he forget?

Speaker 1 (02:20:12):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (02:20:13):
Because it's a long game. It's a long game.

Speaker 3 (02:20:15):
But it's like even the angels in heaven right when
they when they fall, it's like, how could you forgot?
But it's like it's a matter of time. And also
I think what it is is worship.

Speaker 2 (02:20:24):
Well, yeah, maybe Lucifer had a trick bro like, yo,
no I got it, like, hey, I got an inside
deal here.

Speaker 1 (02:20:28):
But that's well, that's the one fault, right, that's the
rebellion of Lucifer. There's also the watchers, which is I
think it's just just the.

Speaker 2 (02:20:34):
Idea of the two one hundred on Mount Hermone.

Speaker 1 (02:20:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:20:37):
When you accept, when you accept worship from people, from
other people, that's like the most poison. That's why God's like, no,
that's for me, it's not for you. Don't accept me,
I know.

Speaker 2 (02:20:45):
Like that here, No, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (02:20:49):
When you accept the worship, that's like it degrades it you.
So if you're a king, he's accepting worship over how
many years you forgot what happened with r Sure, and
now you're here again, and now you are now you
think you are a god. And it's the same thing
with the fallen angels. They accept the worship, they full
they forget, and that's what it is man. And it's like, yeah,
David's accepted.

Speaker 1 (02:21:08):
That's not true.

Speaker 3 (02:21:08):
I've not accepted any worship out here.

Speaker 1 (02:21:10):
Don't accept the worship man, Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:21:12):
This is one of the most gangster lines in the Bible. Though.

Speaker 4 (02:21:15):
If shad drive me checking and been to Goo answer
instead of the king, O nebukinezzer, We're not even careful
to answer you in this matter. Can you imagine he's saying, dude,
I'm gonna and there's the furnace, you know what's He says, bro,
I'm gonna throw your ass in the fiery furnace. And
their response is like, We're not even careful to answer you.

Speaker 1 (02:21:33):
I ain't scared, Damn, I'm scared. If it be so,
this is gangster.

Speaker 2 (02:21:38):
If it be so, our God, whom we serve, is
able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and
he will deliver us out of dying hand o King.
But if not, be it known under you, O King,
that we will not serve your gods nor worship the
golden image which you've set up. They say, Bro, our
God can save us out of the fiery furnace, but
even if he doesn't, he's still our God and we're
not worshiping your stupid statue. Yeah, this is'raw, bro, Like,

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think of how the impact that this has if people
don't compromise with the culture and with the society.

Speaker 1 (02:22:06):
I'm not even lie though, Like I'm happy to have
you here, Matt, and to be going through this with us,
because scroll up just a little bit top of I
just want to read that even from this perspective. I
don't know if it's a different translation, but where it
says answer to the king, O Nebicanezer, we are not
careful to answer thee in this matter, I would not
have interpreted it that way. I would have just been like,
I don't even know really what that means. Yeah, just

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because of the way that the senses is structured.

Speaker 2 (02:22:29):
Saying like, Bro, we're not even sweating this answer.

Speaker 1 (02:22:31):
Bro. Sixteen, that's sixteen, I don't know, three sixteen, it's
twenty four, that's thirteen, nineteen sixteen, O Nebukanzer, we do
not need to defend ourselves before you. And that's it.

Speaker 3 (02:22:45):
So that's how it's surmised you is.

Speaker 2 (02:22:46):
Like we're not even sweating.

Speaker 1 (02:22:48):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (02:22:48):
I'll have to defend myself to you, bro, And what
the creator of the universe, Like, that's Christian living right there, Bro.
Christian living is like, dude, whatever you.

Speaker 1 (02:22:55):
It's just like this is so much better than trying
to read the King James version.

Speaker 2 (02:22:58):
I hate to like always bring it back to twenty two.

Speaker 4 (02:23:00):
I just feel like for a lot of American people,
they just never had any Just like you know, in
the American society, like you would get so much gain
for being a Christian. You become part of a friend group,
really nice people know. He was a nice guy, doesn't
say cust words. You need a Chick fil A and
you have a Z eighty it happy, it's bumper sticker,
and like everything's great and you're wonderful.

Speaker 2 (02:23:16):
You're like the Lego guy in the Lego movie. You know,
everything is awesome, right, And then.

Speaker 4 (02:23:19):
All of a sudden, twenty twenty came along and like
the world kind of showed its fangs a little bit, bro,
Like you're gonna inject this thing whether you like it
or not.

Speaker 2 (02:23:26):
Yeah, do you see what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 (02:23:27):
Oh yeah, she was like our first chance to really
be like, no, I'm not yeah, no, no, you know
what it was like, our first chance to like something
like this, even though it's a million times lower. I'm
not compared, of course, of course seeing it with like
a little snidge of being able to be like, I
don't give a shit what your world tells me. I
don't answer to the world. I don't care what the
world has to offer me. I don't care what its
goods are. I don't care if I can go on

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their airplanes. I don't care if I can go in
the basketball games. I don't care if I can go
in the restaurants. Like I get to be a man
of God.

Speaker 1 (02:23:54):
So this is a Remember we I told you about,
Sorry for the customers.

Speaker 2 (02:23:57):
I just get this is a Christian show.

Speaker 3 (02:24:00):
I know that gonna scare a map. Remember I told
you about like the folding out we had with the
friend or whatever it was about the theater, and the
theater had told us you cannot do.

Speaker 2 (02:24:11):
Here unless you get the injection.

Speaker 3 (02:24:12):
No, no, they said no, they said you can't. You
can't play here if you have this person here. For
whatever reasons. It was just nonsense. It was just it's
like it's a tactic of intimidation. But it's like what
we saw there was, oh right, this is cancel culture.
We've read about it, we've seen a lot about it.
But here it is now right in front of you.

Speaker 1 (02:24:28):
What will you do?

Speaker 3 (02:24:29):
Will you say this guy can't come so we can
do this? It's like no, it's like this is what
we've been preparing, Like this is what we've been reading
and talking about for years and years, and it's like,
now here we are. And he presented us the opportunity
to say screw you, and it was like it's the
easiest thing in the world to do, to say screw you.
I won't negotiate, and that's what we did. And then
obviously the friendship fracture because it was like, you know,
I was like absolutely not negotiating. How cool we were, Yeah,

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but it's I mean, I'm grateful for the opportunity. How
many people get the opportunity to show I guess on
twenty twenty you did, but like, not many people get
the opportunity to say, like you've been saying something in championing,
I'm championible.

Speaker 4 (02:25:04):
Well, to suffer loss for Christ's sake is very honorable,
Like that's that's like a very high honor, Like in
the human experience, to suffer loss because of Christ is
this great and.

Speaker 2 (02:25:13):
High honor that we don't really get a whole lot
in America.

Speaker 1 (02:25:15):
Man, that might sounds crazy, but it's like if this
all ends with uh, with me getting beheaded, that's kind
of the best outcome.

Speaker 2 (02:25:23):
Oh, it's just like to be absent from the body
is to be present with the Lord.

Speaker 4 (02:25:26):
It's like like whatever it's gonna happen, like nobody's getting
out of your life.

Speaker 3 (02:25:30):
A lot of Christ is Lord.

Speaker 1 (02:25:32):
And then my head rolls off like that's that's like
literally doing the gymnastics and doing like a triple double
button but back and then sticking the landing like that's
what it is.

Speaker 3 (02:25:40):
Yeah, yeah, kind of all right, let's let's continue continue.

Speaker 4 (02:25:43):
Then was Nebkanzer full of fury, and the form of
his visage was changed against Shadrag Mishak and a bende Goo. Therefore,
he spoke and commanded they should heat the furnace seven
times more than it was wont to be heated seven times,
and he commanded the most mighty man that were in
his army to buying Shadrag Mishack and a bend to go.

Speaker 2 (02:26:00):
And to cast them into the burning fiery furnace. Then
these men were bounding their coats, they're hosing in their
hats and their other garments, and we're casting in the
midst of the burning fiery furnace. Therefore, because the king's
commandment was urgent and the furnace exceeding hot, the flame
of the fire slew those men that took up shaddrag
meshack and a bend to go.

Speaker 1 (02:26:17):
Oh so we turned a heat up so much that
it actually murdered us or killed his men.

Speaker 4 (02:26:21):
These are his most mighty men verse twenty dummy, almost
like God was like, oh, you're taking out my boy.

Speaker 2 (02:26:26):
No, I'm taking out your boys. That's what I think
what God did right there. Okay, you're proximity to the
heat was that hot? Like they opened the door, I guess,
and the flame was like oh damn.

Speaker 3 (02:26:37):
Now wait does this s Where does say mighty men?

Speaker 2 (02:26:40):
Verse twenty Mmm. He commanded the most mighty men that
were in his army. Yeah, which God like that.

Speaker 1 (02:26:46):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (02:26:46):
If you think about like when they stone Stephen in
the Book of Acts and they lose Steven.

Speaker 2 (02:26:51):
Right, but then right after that God's like, I'm taking Saul.
You see what I'm saying. Like like he's like that,
He's like, oh you want half with my boys, Like
I'm taking your boys now, okay, yeah, Oh, those guys
are on the kingdom of darkness. Now they're on the
kingdom alight.

Speaker 1 (02:27:02):
I wonder if what they meant by mighty men here.

Speaker 2 (02:27:05):
I mean, I don't know. You're always over analyzed.

Speaker 1 (02:27:09):
I love it, yeah that much.

Speaker 2 (02:27:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:27:15):
They big, big dudes. They could be how many cubits?

Speaker 3 (02:27:20):
How many cubes was they? How many fingers did they have?
It doesn't doesn't say but whatever was keeping right, keep
your secrets.

Speaker 2 (02:27:26):
It does say they had two rows of teeth. Kidding,
I'm just kidding. I shouldn't do that. Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:27:32):
The flame of the fire slew those men that took
up Shadrack meshack and have been to go. And these
three men Shatracked Meshacking have been and go fell down
bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

Speaker 2 (02:27:40):
Then Nebek and Azer the king was astonished and rose
up in haste and spake and sat into his counselors.
Didn't we throw three men bound into the mints of
the fire. They answered to the King. True O King,
He answered and said, lo, I see four. I see
four men loose walking in the midst of the fire,
and they have no hurt. And the form of the
fourth is like the son of God.

Speaker 1 (02:28:02):
Dang, you look so stupid.

Speaker 4 (02:28:05):
Then Nebukanizer came near to the mouth of the burning fire.
He furnished in Spagan said, hey, shattruk.

Speaker 2 (02:28:10):
Me Shacking have been to go. You servants are the
most I God gone forth and come here. Dude.

Speaker 3 (02:28:17):
I just imagined that he probably because he was like
super tough.

Speaker 2 (02:28:20):
Only moments ago massage was full of raine, right, and
then he's like, hey, guys.

Speaker 1 (02:28:26):
Of the Most God, it's over and over.

Speaker 2 (02:28:29):
It's like, where's the tough guy?

Speaker 3 (02:28:30):
Why didn't you say so? You should have said that
I would.

Speaker 2 (02:28:32):
Have not thrown you into the first over and over. Man,
These guys are like big dogs, and then God just
puts them in their place.

Speaker 3 (02:28:39):
Guy kind of sucks.

Speaker 2 (02:28:40):
So Shad dragged me.

Speaker 4 (02:28:41):
Shack and Medigo came forth out of the midst of
the fire, and the princes, governors and captains and the
king's counselors being gathered together, saw these men upon whose
bodies the fire had no power, nor were their coats changed,
nor the smell of fire had passed on them.

Speaker 3 (02:28:54):
Dang.

Speaker 4 (02:28:56):
Then Nebuker spake and said, blessed be the God. A
shaddraged me shack and a bend to go.

Speaker 3 (02:29:01):
That's crazy. This smell of fire, the smell of fire
wasn't even on them. So it's almost like they weren't
even you know, it's all right, this is gonna go globe,
go ahead, snow globe effect. Yeah, I mean you're thinking
what I'm thinking. I'm thinking, I'm totally different.

Speaker 4 (02:29:12):
All consuming fire number four got in there. Who's the
all consuming fire? So this fire became completely irrelevant.

Speaker 1 (02:29:18):
I'm just thinking that even if they were bald, people
would still be like, yo, what like you're not dead?
But which, Yeah, I mean, you know, that's.

Speaker 2 (02:29:24):
Like they're in a different environment.

Speaker 4 (02:29:26):
Like they say that even Israel when they came out
of Egypt, for them to survive, like to talk about
the pillar of the cloud and the pillar of fire,
the fire let them by night and the cloud let
them by day. They say that that was even like
a snow globe, Like there's no way they they would
have survived in that desert.

Speaker 1 (02:29:39):
Check this out.

Speaker 2 (02:29:39):
We just a completely different atmosphere.

Speaker 3 (02:29:41):
We just spoke to a guy at Trey Hudson and
he does like this investigation in something called the Metal
and one of the things that they saw in this
it's just like an open expanse in this like wilderness.
And I'm not going to say the name of the place,
but they have like a night vision goggles and three people.

Speaker 1 (02:29:58):
Three people walk in. Oh yeah, that's it.

Speaker 3 (02:30:01):
Yeah, so whatever they they on this open field of
the metal, they see a huge cube that's like twenty
five by twenty five and they think it's floating above
They have like video and pictures of this it's floating
above the ground. And their people go to investigate. They
can't see what their eyes, but they could see it infrared.

Speaker 1 (02:30:17):
They walk in skeptical.

Speaker 2 (02:30:19):
What they're telling us, like, no, no, I mean there's
weird things about cubes, bro, There's like the maca weird
a cube.

Speaker 3 (02:30:26):
It's weird weird on the show. Anyway, they go in.
Tony Merkle made a documentary. But they walk into this
cube and they lose their heat sense, like they can't
see them when they walk in because they could see
no way.

Speaker 2 (02:30:39):
So they can see the cube, but then when they
walk in the cube, they can't see them and you can't.

Speaker 3 (02:30:43):
See yeah, and they kind of like go into a
different place and then they get cancer, well two of
them do, and two of them die and the woman
is still alive. But it's interesting because that place there
has this like property of like almost like a portal
where they walk through it that it happened to tree huts,
and they telling us he walk happened to them.

Speaker 2 (02:30:58):
So what are you saying that, Like me checking a
bend and we're in a maybe potentially in a portal.

Speaker 3 (02:31:02):
Some sort of a parallel saying that the technology that
God is using it exists today. It's not technology.

Speaker 1 (02:31:08):
It's like He built this place so he can adjust
the fundamental building blocks of this place.

Speaker 3 (02:31:14):
It sounds a lot like this, like where people have
walked into something and now they are there, but they
are in a different place you could see.

Speaker 1 (02:31:20):
Don't read what they're saying. Don't read what they're saying.
They're saying, do five people are terrible?

Speaker 3 (02:31:27):
I just I just think it's interesting that the guy
walks into a field in America and there is the
same type of phenomenon that exists there and it's like,
what is that? But that's certainly what happened here. These
dudes walked into something and now they're in a different spot,
but they're there geographic.

Speaker 2 (02:31:40):
That's what I'm saying. The unseen realm is the real realm.
Like this realm was created from that realm.

Speaker 1 (02:31:46):
Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:31:48):
So like whatever else is that out there? That is
the real realm?

Speaker 3 (02:31:50):
So what did they do?

Speaker 2 (02:31:51):
They walked out of the fire, and they all him
walk out to be respectful?

Speaker 1 (02:31:55):
Do you have to be respectful?

Speaker 2 (02:31:58):
Let's just read it. Whose bodies?

Speaker 4 (02:32:02):
The fire had no power, nor was a hair of
their head sins, neither of their coach changed, nor the
smell of the fire passed on them. Then Nevikanzer speak
and said, blessed to be the god of Shadrag Mishak
and a Benego, who has sent his angel and delivered
his servants that trusted in him and have changed the
king's word. That's the big deal. And yielded their bodies.
That's a big deal too. That they might not serve
nor worship any god except their own god.

Speaker 1 (02:32:23):
I love the capitalization in the lowercase there here weka boompom.

Speaker 4 (02:32:26):
Therefore, I make a decree that every people, nation and
language would speak anything against the Goddess Shadrack Mishak and
a bendigo is this crazy bro against against Sharon Mishiana
Bendigo shall be cutting pieces in their houses, shall.

Speaker 2 (02:32:39):
Be made a dunghill.

Speaker 1 (02:32:40):
This guy kind of sucks because there's no wait till
you get to the end with this guy. Though. This dude,
it feels like this dude's on mes. It feels like
all he wants to do is turn people's houses into
pile of what hit Hitler in the Olympics.

Speaker 4 (02:32:54):
Bro, Then he gets turned into a sasquatch, Like, we
haven't got what he gets turned into a sasquatch?

Speaker 2 (02:33:00):
Is it chapter? Oh that's right, he does turn into
a sasquatch.

Speaker 1 (02:33:02):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (02:33:03):
So I mean then he comes back, like then he
comes he gets his mind back.

Speaker 3 (02:33:07):
I just like that.

Speaker 2 (02:33:07):
This is a wild, dude. This is this is a
really wild story to me.

Speaker 1 (02:33:11):
It's it's like a it's almost like a comedy, just
in the sense of like everything that he doesn't like,
he's like, cut him into pieces, reduce their house to
a dunghill. Yeah, I guess the decree in that day,
like she she stole an apples, cut her into pieces,
and turn her house into a dung hill like everything.

Speaker 3 (02:33:26):
I like the idea of making a comedy show about Nebekinzer,
and he's just like it's just old.

Speaker 2 (02:33:30):
Hand, a bumbling moron that just everybody gets. I mean
world leaders, like we're saying, they do lose their mind.

Speaker 4 (02:33:36):
They imagine what happens if you're a human and you
start thinking you're like comparable with God and you and
there's no bro like, imagine if you could do anything
you want on the planet at any time.

Speaker 1 (02:33:45):
Look, look raw celebrity question. Ral is asking, he's going,
where are they getting all this?

Speaker 2 (02:33:49):
All this ship from?

Speaker 3 (02:33:50):
This is Daniel?

Speaker 1 (02:33:51):
What is this thirty the Bible? Sir, Uh, Let's see
what the translation is, because I want to know if
they maintain this, then the king pro promoted. Uh okay,
but that doesn't say the poop park I want that.

Speaker 2 (02:34:04):
No, we're talking about chapter three, verse twenty nine.

Speaker 1 (02:34:07):
Chapter three, verse thirty nine. I got it.

Speaker 3 (02:34:10):
Oh okay.

Speaker 1 (02:34:10):
So it says they will be torn limb from limb
and their houses will be turned into heaps of rubble.
There is no other screen here as you gave dunghill. Yeah,
because yeah, get to pieces and they're rolls like the
dung Dude, where is the dung coming from their house?
Shell be made of dunghill.

Speaker 2 (02:34:28):
I see what he's saying. Now, Yeah, he's like, we're
not referring to our conversation. No, no, well, I mean
that could also be fair point.

Speaker 1 (02:34:35):
No, Rob, I'm not doing that. I'm not making it
look he's not like that unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (02:34:39):
It's coming from cattle farms and like chicken farms, like
they like they have farms with tons of dumb they
had to get rid of.

Speaker 1 (02:34:44):
I will admit, though, it makes more sense to say
reduce their house to rubble than it is to say
reduce it to rubble then replace it with dumb.

Speaker 2 (02:34:51):
It's like, uh, back to the future. Remember when Biff
always have to.

Speaker 1 (02:34:55):
Watch because he started getting it like weird with his
mom okay, and I was like trying, No, he.

Speaker 4 (02:35:02):
Would always end up with the with the dung hill
like with the cow poop would always in his car, like.

Speaker 1 (02:35:08):
Oh yeah, if it's Donald Trump and he's a time shot,
did you Just Like.

Speaker 2 (02:35:11):
As soon as I said, I was like crap, they're
gonna roast me from my age.

Speaker 3 (02:35:15):
Well that's a very old thing of you to say. Yeah, no,
I mean it's a movie that we should have watched.

Speaker 1 (02:35:19):
Well, I just don't remember it. I would like there's
people I would like to have on because apparently it
predicts nine to eleven and all kinds.

Speaker 2 (02:35:23):
Of hold, but we gotta we gotta wrap it up.

Speaker 4 (02:35:25):
Let me cut you off, coming off, okay, shutting pieces
in their houses, showing me because there is no other
god that can deliver it. After this sort, then the
king promoted shad drag Meshack and have been to go
into province of Babylon. So all I'm saying is like
those type of things that change everything, they don't happen
unless you're willing to get thrown in the fiery furnace.
Like like, none of this story happens. Where now the

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king is like declaring that the God is God. That
was never gonna happen if somebody didn't stand up and say,
I don't throw me in the fiery furnace, bro, do
what you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (02:35:56):
I do like that these people are at the whim
of this this guy though, where he's just like like
they did it.

Speaker 3 (02:36:00):
They changed his mind. God changed his mind, God showed
him right.

Speaker 1 (02:36:03):
But still then it's like back to this earthly realm
where you're now at the mercy of this complete psychopath,
this complete psychopath who's.

Speaker 3 (02:36:10):
Like he's on your side right now. It's interesting too
to see how Daniel speaks with him, because like, the
guy clearly is like a bit of a psychopath.

Speaker 4 (02:36:18):
But wait, how Daniel speaks well, then that brings up
another point. Daniel's not even in this story.

Speaker 3 (02:36:24):
He's not in this story, but like the previous yea,
and how Daniel speaks with Kings in general, because he's like,
he's like, I know, these guys are crazy and they
also think that they're God.

Speaker 1 (02:36:34):
But he's still kind of like respectful.

Speaker 3 (02:36:35):
He knows how to get like he's yeah, yeah, but
he's like because he's but he's on another level. But
he also knows how to get from them, because you
could approach this real bad like when he went to
him in general and he was like, listen, give me
a day. That could have went sideways complete, so some
way about like approaching this leadership, Yeah, you got to
have that otherwise cutting the pieces in your.

Speaker 2 (02:36:58):
Correct but isn't it While Daniel's not in the story.

Speaker 3 (02:37:00):
That's why only the homies.

Speaker 1 (02:37:01):
And let me tell you, you hear a lot about Daniel,
but you don't hear much about Shadrack, Meshak and a.

Speaker 2 (02:37:06):
No, you guys, you just haven't been in the circle
for a long time.

Speaker 3 (02:37:09):
It is actually my first time reading.

Speaker 2 (02:37:11):
Yeah. People loves about him.

Speaker 1 (02:37:14):
Yeah is there? Yeah, well, I just mean in the
greater dialogue, like I've not come out like we do
a show about the Bible.

Speaker 2 (02:37:21):
If you know this, uh, actually my Bible open. Wow,
this is good.

Speaker 1 (02:37:25):
Nancy likes it and says, no, you have to bring
that closer. You sound like a whispering child. H Nancy
wants us to do this every Sunday. That seems that
seems uh, that seems good. It seems untenable, untenable. Yeah, yeah, well,
well listen, it's been two hours and forty minutes.

Speaker 2 (02:37:41):
Wait, is that the automatic stop time?

Speaker 1 (02:37:43):
That is? No, that's usually is Yeah, that's how long
we can go.

Speaker 2 (02:37:46):
What. Well, we don't pay for the full version of
stream Yard, so no, can we say some stuff to
the people that are.

Speaker 3 (02:37:53):
Yeah, let's let's address him. No, that wasn't a lot
we spoke about that.

Speaker 1 (02:37:56):
Oh, Matt, do you want to talk to the people.
Let's talk to him brold On, do you think he
should reallowed to wait?

Speaker 2 (02:38:02):
Are you trying to shut it down right now? No?

Speaker 1 (02:38:03):
No, no, but we'll wrap up now.

Speaker 2 (02:38:04):
But what do you want to tell?

Speaker 1 (02:38:05):
What do you want to tell the people?

Speaker 2 (02:38:06):
Do?

Speaker 3 (02:38:07):
Why don't you you know it's your show?

Speaker 1 (02:38:08):
Now you tell which one do you want.

Speaker 2 (02:38:09):
Us to click on?

Speaker 1 (02:38:10):
Matt? Yeah, let's say we should go through.

Speaker 4 (02:38:12):
Oh no, I just want to make the point like
this story is about people who are willing to not compromise. Yeah,
that's what this whole thing comes down to. We're gonna
get to like a lot of stuff. There's a lot
of those sub stuff. But remember Daniel purposed in his
heart ahead of time. That's like the biggest thing here.
He purposed in his heart ahead of time. He didn't
sit in the small things with food. Well, we would
think of small things and that made it.

Speaker 2 (02:38:31):
More powerful as time went on. You have to start
with the small things first. You have to purpose in
your heart ahead of time to be faithful to God
and just stay mindful of the smallest things that nobody sees,
especially the things that nobody sees. So the things that
people see, then you get glory for it. Is it
really for God or just some cool thing that makes
you look cool. You have to be faithful in the.

Speaker 4 (02:38:49):
Smallest things, purpose in your heart ahead of time, and
then don't compromise with the world.

Speaker 2 (02:38:53):
Man. The world is evil.

Speaker 4 (02:38:54):
The scriptures full of passages to talk about how evil
and wicked the world is. We can't act like the
world's good. We can't even act like it's neutral. We
have to understand the world is evil and we stand
against it no matter what it costs us.

Speaker 2 (02:39:06):
The world is a vampire to drain. Those guys aren't
based anymore.

Speaker 3 (02:39:12):
Do you do you think that like I do, Like
like I said, the way he speaks with the king,
is that Is that a compromise at all?

Speaker 2 (02:39:19):
Or is that because you mean no?

Speaker 1 (02:39:21):
No, I mean he he was like, dude, I'm not
even worried. Well that's what his homie said. They were like, well,
I'm not even worried. Yeah, you gotta go, you gotta go,
you gotta get out of here. This is why I
said we gotta wrap because unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (02:39:32):
Wait, they just know it's dinner time.

Speaker 1 (02:39:33):
They know it's time for something.

Speaker 3 (02:39:34):
It's time for feeding.

Speaker 1 (02:39:36):
Yeah, I have to feed them? Who let them out
of their cage? Three days? Okay? Goodbye?

Speaker 2 (02:39:47):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (02:39:47):
Please wait.

Speaker 4 (02:39:48):
So the way that he came at the King, You're like,
did he compromise coming at the king? Man, this is
the ruler of the most powerful empire on the planet.
You think he's rolling the planet? Basically, right, we're that
part of the planet.

Speaker 2 (02:39:59):
I mean, who knows what was going on in North
America at the time, And I don't speculate, even though
I know the raven does. But I'm just saying exactly, Like,
he was the ruler of that entire territory, so he
had to deal with him. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:40:10):
Yeah, and God was dealing with him too, bro, Like
that's a big part of this too that nobody likes
to deal with, Like Jesus, even though the Pharisees were
the most wicked creatures ever on the planet, Like Jesus
was still trying to save them. Like in all of that,
like Neba Ca, Yeah, he's wicked and evil. God's still
trying to get across the Nebcanezer and I don't want
to have a spoiler alert, but has one of the
most incredible prophecies and beautiful words about God anywhere.

Speaker 2 (02:40:32):
In the Bible. Okay, but you guys have seen him
do the sea salt thing a couple of times now.
He's like, oh yeah, yeah, you're gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (02:40:38):
I tell you.

Speaker 2 (02:40:39):
Oh, man, No, your God's a real god.

Speaker 1 (02:40:41):
He's hot and cold.

Speaker 2 (02:40:41):
Yeah, he's still doing that.

Speaker 4 (02:40:43):
I think when he comes back from the Sasquatch thing,
he stays hot Sasquatch.

Speaker 2 (02:40:47):
I think if he if he remains the way he
is after that, he's good.

Speaker 1 (02:40:50):
Chet. Did you know that Nebuzar is a Sasquatch? Did
you know he became a Sasquatch? I like to know
what they think he became.

Speaker 3 (02:40:56):
He became sasquatch.

Speaker 2 (02:40:58):
That's interesting. That's fair.

Speaker 1 (02:40:59):
Well, at least we know we have meat left on
the bone for next time. Do this an entire Bible?

Speaker 2 (02:41:05):
Yes, you have to go.

Speaker 1 (02:41:06):
Man, we have to bring it in for a landing
because children are trying to infiltrate.

Speaker 2 (02:41:09):
Yeah. No, that's real. Yea, it is real.

Speaker 1 (02:41:11):
That's it's a real thing that's happening. Wait, wait, somebody
says something nice about it.

Speaker 3 (02:41:14):
There's a question they want to know, NDS, will this
be regular, a regular schedule program. We hope as long
as Matt doesn't, you know, think.

Speaker 2 (02:41:22):
They're going anywhere.

Speaker 3 (02:41:23):
Well, as long as we have the finances.

Speaker 1 (02:41:24):
We have to pay Matt quite a bit of money
to show up every time he shows up, so we say, wait, click.

Speaker 3 (02:41:29):
On that one that looks great, that looks like it's
an NDS.

Speaker 1 (02:41:32):
I don't think you know how amazing tip of the
Spearit all this is I grew up in a teaching church,
but never had this level of honesty. Love you guys.

Speaker 3 (02:41:38):
That's nice people.

Speaker 2 (02:41:40):
People all the time in Bible study they say, how
came I never heard of this at church? Because you
have like a one hour show, bro.

Speaker 4 (02:41:46):
How can you do it one day a week of
one hour and a certain amount of it's going to
be announcements to mcs.

Speaker 2 (02:41:51):
Didn't have a couple of jokes. It's not like heaving
a Hell's steak here. Let's tell a couple of jokes.
That's a couple of songs, and then there's like this
little snippet of like some self help message, like, yeah,
how are you going to get the whole Bible? Our church?
Just sixteen songs before it starts sixteen.

Speaker 1 (02:42:05):
Songs, I don't think, and then they did, and then
they talk a little bit, and then they do three more.

Speaker 2 (02:42:09):
Songs and then they talk some more. It's tough.

Speaker 4 (02:42:10):
It's tough, like this way of just reading the Bible
and talking about it like this is the way they
get to understand the Bible.

Speaker 1 (02:42:16):
Are we invited to your personal Bible Star?

Speaker 2 (02:42:18):
Yeah? But then the most important one. I'll bet the
Tuesday guys would love you guys, bro, But that's like
far away.

Speaker 3 (02:42:23):
That's like you guys today guys are different than the
Thursday guys.

Speaker 1 (02:42:26):
Yeah, Thursday. He's got an.

Speaker 2 (02:42:30):
Eighteen construction guys. Which is why I was trying to
hide you guys from M because I just thought I'm
not saying you guys were solid yourself. I just with
the construction guys on Tuesdays.

Speaker 1 (02:42:41):
Bro, that's a good I was a fabricator for a decade.

Speaker 2 (02:42:44):
No, we're in John.

Speaker 3 (02:42:45):
So he just burns on my inner thighs.

Speaker 2 (02:42:47):
Okay, he always makes it weird, man, So that's just
the truth. John.

Speaker 4 (02:42:52):
So we just wrapped up John, right, We finished John.
But it's very vague at the end, like at the Crucifixion,
it's very vague. So we just said, all right, now,
next week we're gonna go through Matthew, Mark and Luke
and just handle the crucifixion because there's wait because I
just read the story where like in Matthew, where Jesus
dies and then all the graves open up and all
the Saints just start walking around in town and people

(02:43:14):
see him and everybody did that. They're like wait what
I was like, Yeah, let's just go back through Matthew,
Mark and Luke should read that.

Speaker 1 (02:43:20):
Yeah, so yeah, man, we should do that. Maybe after
Daniel we'll do that and read it whatever, but we
have to finish Daniel now.

Speaker 3 (02:43:27):
I have to know how he's a sasquatch.

Speaker 2 (02:43:29):
And yeah, no, yeah, yeah, we definitely got to finish this.

Speaker 3 (02:43:32):
All the Saints walking around walking around.

Speaker 2 (02:43:35):
Pull it up. You have the thing to pull it up, right,
Matthew twenty.

Speaker 1 (02:43:38):
Four video or video. Oh let's see, I have Matt Scruffy.
Von Winkle says, Matt is the guest. Yeah, no, this
is Matt Show. Matt is the host of Neville Death Squad.
We are the guests Matt's four. Sorry to cut you off.

Speaker 2 (02:43:54):
No, it's your show. Go ahead, No, no, no, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (02:43:58):
Yeah, towards the end of the chapter.

Speaker 2 (02:44:00):
And I'm sorry, want me to read it? Sure, we'll
watch this.

Speaker 4 (02:44:02):
Jesus, when he had cried again with the loudvoice, yielded
up the ghost. What what what's the Matthew twenty seven starting.

Speaker 2 (02:44:09):
To uh fifty fifty, go ahead, Jesus, when he had
cried again with the loud voice, he yielded up the ghost.
Nobody killed him. He gave his life. He was in
charge of the whole time. He wasn't a victim of anything.
And behold, the veil of the temple was ripped into
from the top to the bottom, and the earth did quake,

(02:44:30):
and the rocks ripped, and the graves were opened, and
many bodies of the saints which slept a rose and
came out of the graves after his resurrection and went
into the Holy City and appeared under.

Speaker 3 (02:44:38):
Many see that's a part like that, they would just
they wouldn't even read. That wouldn't be in a sermon, because.

Speaker 2 (02:44:44):
That's like, how is that not a sermon? Bro?

Speaker 3 (02:44:46):
You have to explain it.

Speaker 2 (02:44:47):
And they're like, why Joseph said, get my bones, dude,
he said, we all come out of Egypt.

Speaker 4 (02:44:50):
Get my bones, bones, but the Sia is coming one day,
and I know what's going to happen, and I want
to be one of those guys that's walking around.

Speaker 2 (02:44:56):
I don't want to be in Egypt, like get my bones? Yeah,
why did he say get my bones?

Speaker 3 (02:45:01):
What do you what if you're saying in the Book
of En because I didn't read this part they were
fighting over Moses's bones.

Speaker 2 (02:45:08):
That's in Jude.

Speaker 1 (02:45:09):
That's in Jude.

Speaker 2 (02:45:10):
In Jude.

Speaker 1 (02:45:10):
Okay, well it's Jude.

Speaker 2 (02:45:12):
We have to do that book because that's a gangster book.
I don't think. I don't relevant. That is so relevant
to the lot of Yeah. Verse nine. Jude only has
one chapter, so it's one verse nine.

Speaker 1 (02:45:22):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (02:45:22):
Michael the Archangel, when he's contending with the Devil, he
disputed about the body of Moses. Dare not bring against
him a railing accusation, but said.

Speaker 2 (02:45:30):
The Lord rebuke you. What the hell? Man?

Speaker 4 (02:45:33):
So, Michael the Archangel, when contending with the Devil, he
disputed about the body of Moses. Just drop a tricky
one too, because he's buried somewhere where nobody knows. Remember,
God tells him go up the mountain and die, so
he like goes up the mountain, he has to reflect
on his whole life.

Speaker 2 (02:45:47):
He gets to see the promised lam. He doesn't get
to go in. Yeah, and he's buried somewhere, but nobody
knows where the tomb's at.

Speaker 1 (02:45:52):
This is what are the guys?

Speaker 2 (02:45:54):
Man?

Speaker 3 (02:45:54):
We had on Wan shout out juan A Yella a
long time ago with her talking about like a stealing
the skulls of like Geronimo prophesying skulls.

Speaker 1 (02:46:02):
Yeah, this, well, the.

Speaker 3 (02:46:03):
Skull and bones three three one one people. Yeah, they're
three two two three two two. Yeah, they'll they'll like grieve,
rob and steal the bones of like important people.

Speaker 2 (02:46:12):
Well, bro, there's where there's wild stuff with bones. Like
Elaisha gets thrown in the tomb, and then when the
Moabiites went to war with them, they had to bury
a guy, so they dropped them in the tomb. The
dead guy touches Elisha's bones and comes back to life.

Speaker 1 (02:46:25):
What's this about? John the Baptist head speaking in tongues,
The severed head of John the Baptist speaking in tongues.

Speaker 2 (02:46:31):
No, No, did somebody ask that?

Speaker 3 (02:46:33):
No, it's something that I just have.

Speaker 1 (02:46:34):
Somebody just made up. I guess it's made it up. Yeah,
there's something about that.

Speaker 3 (02:46:38):
Uh all right, listen, you know, yeah, we're we're like,
we can't we're skipping around it on the Bible.

Speaker 1 (02:46:45):
We're gonna keep it focused free.

Speaker 3 (02:46:49):
Is that we're gonna do.

Speaker 2 (02:46:49):
I think it was a hybrid Bible studies to kind
of go off the rails a little bit. But it
has to have a straight Bible studies.

Speaker 3 (02:46:55):
Yeah, Like we don't want it to, but we have to.

Speaker 1 (02:46:57):
It has to.

Speaker 3 (02:46:58):
And people people like Matt people like this. They're they're
asking how many times this guy been on? They love
it is the second time?

Speaker 1 (02:47:03):
Second time he's.

Speaker 2 (02:47:06):
Third straight Bible. I just come on and talk about
the Bible. That's it. Yeah, I'll do that anytime anywhere.

Speaker 3 (02:47:12):
All right, there you go do it in front of
six hundred and sixties.

Speaker 1 (02:47:16):
Actually it's more than that because on Rumble there's probably
a few hundreds over.

Speaker 4 (02:47:20):
Yeah, what's the thing with Like you guys said, YouTube
is where all the people are at, But if you
go to Rumble, there's like way more views of stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:47:26):
There's Rumble lies. Well, I mean it's not that they
just lie, but uh no, like they count their views
slightly differently. So if anybody kind of like peruses it
for like two three minutes. It's a view you have
to do more for to get a YouTube view. But
also the larger sample portion is YouTube, Like there's like
billions of people on YouTube because it's just a more

(02:47:46):
well known platform, so it's a larger pool to draw from.

Speaker 1 (02:47:49):
YouTube is great for for certain things like I mean,
you know how to videos and stuff like that. So
it's still YouTube still rains.

Speaker 2 (02:47:58):
Like how you did the video at the shot that
way and you have like the the little yeah my
hair go back going to my hair.

Speaker 1 (02:48:06):
Yeah, we got it.

Speaker 3 (02:48:08):
Well, it depends on when that not this one?

Speaker 2 (02:48:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:48:12):
And who changes the video like Nancy Nancy. Yeah, there's
an Asian lady about this all the.

Speaker 2 (02:48:17):
Time, is like changing the views like she's she's in.

Speaker 1 (02:48:20):
The room with Nancy. Nancy changed the video right now
there you go.

Speaker 2 (02:48:24):
Look at look at his hair, look at the raven's hair.

Speaker 3 (02:48:28):
Yeah, she's about this speak.

Speaker 2 (02:48:29):
So she just knows when we're coming on, just jumps
on and starts like.

Speaker 1 (02:48:33):
She's good guys.

Speaker 3 (02:48:33):
This has been another episode of Nephelm desk. Wat's right,
thank you for showing up. That's Matt. Nancy, what are
you doing? The standard coffee shop. Yeah, I am top lopster.

Speaker 4 (02:48:43):
This is no not Elijah, Elisha, miss Anthorpe. Oh goodness,
I didn't say Elijah, I said Elisha, come on, miss Anthorpon,
miss character. He was taking up in a whirlwind of fire,
but Elisha, who his predecessor, came behind him.

Speaker 2 (02:48:57):
He was buried.

Speaker 4 (02:48:58):
And it's a wild story because he actually dies of
a sickness, which is very rare for a man of God.
But anyway, his bones are down there, somebody else's bones
touch his, somebody else, a dead man touches him, and
then boone, that guy comes back to life.

Speaker 2 (02:49:10):
I like that sentence.

Speaker 3 (02:49:11):
Though Elisha had no bones, I just like it.

Speaker 1 (02:49:16):
Maybe he didn't. It's perfect, all right, all right, let's bring.

Speaker 3 (02:49:19):
This in, guy bro, any any parting wisdom for the
people until next time.

Speaker 2 (02:49:23):
Ant just read the Bible like like every day, read
the Bible. That's it, chee, that's it.

Speaker 3 (02:49:28):
That's of course, all right, guys, we'll be back tomorrow
with an episode. So oh my god, don't forget to
a base of me.

Speaker 1 (02:49:38):
It's as in the rooms there say.

Speaker 2 (02:49:52):
He could help his how they have

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