NeuroDiverse Christian Couples
Like all couples, NeuroDiverse (AS/NT) Christian couples face challenges with communication and connection. Those challenges are nuanced in a way that most couples, therapists, and clergy don't typically recognize. Often NeuroDiverse Couples have children on the spectrum (or or other differences), this podcast will dedicate topics to the NeuroDiverse Couple as well as issues that may arise in spectrum or special needs family systems. We invite you to learn about NeuroDiverse Christian couples to understand those aspects more fully.
Episodes
November 24, 2025 • 47 mins
Today, Dr. Holmes talks to Heidi and Robin about AVA: Autistic Voiceover Artists.
What if there were a place- a program- a community for autistic adults who want to use their voice talents in the voiceover industry? THERE IS! Have you thought about all the ways voiceover work is possible?
About our Guests:
Heidi S. Hackney MS, PCC, Co-Founder
Certified Autism Coach, ICF Accredited Life Coach, Masters in Human Development
Robin Broo...
What if there were a place- a program- a community for autistic adults who want to use their voice talents in the voiceover industry? THERE IS! Have you thought about all the ways voiceover work is possible?
About our Guests:
Heidi S. Hackney MS, PCC, Co-Founder
Certified Autism Coach, ICF Accredited Life Coach, Masters in Human Development
Robin Broo...
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November 17, 2025 • 51 mins
Today, Dr. Stephanie Holmes talks with Occupational Therapist, Kelly Mahler. The topic is interoception! Every neurotype can struggle with it, but we find neurodivergent folks can have a few more challenges with interoception.
Defined by Kelly's website: Many people notice these feelings in their body with the help of an important sense… a sense called… interoception.
Don’t let the name fool you. The word interoception might not soun...
Defined by Kelly's website: Many people notice these feelings in their body with the help of an important sense… a sense called… interoception.
Don’t let the name fool you. The word interoception might not soun...
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November 12, 2025 • 53 mins
In this holiday-themed episode of Just the Guys, the conversation centers on thankfulness—not as a sentimental add-on to Thanksgiving, but as a practical tool for navigating the chaos of family gatherings. Drawing from Dr. Jim Wilder’s teaching on appreciation as the spark that “turns on our relational circuits,” the guys explore how gratitude transforms not just moods but entire relationships.
Greg admits that even when overstimul...
Greg admits that even when overstimul...
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November 10, 2025 • 52 mins
Today, Dr. Stephanie and Barb talk with Dr. Jill Corvelli about the ND Compass charting stages of relationship progression for ND couples.
Stages of Relationship Progression:
About Our Guest:
Jill Corvelli, PhD, LPC, is the creator of ND Compass, a structured methodology designed to
support neurodiverse couples in relational healing. With...
Stages of Relationship Progression:
- Romance
- Power Struggle
- Stability
- Commitment
- Co-Creation
About Our Guest:
Jill Corvelli, PhD, LPC, is the creator of ND Compass, a structured methodology designed to
support neurodiverse couples in relational healing. With...
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November 3, 2025 • 57 mins
We are welcoming back Dr. Lehman with so much positive feedback about his first time on the show. Last show with Dr. Karl, we specifically spoke about the trauma from the perspective of the non-autistic woman married to an autistic man. Today, we shift the focus to potential traumas the autistic man may have, where simple feedback and simple emotions can trigger trauma in the autistic spouse, with a brief discussion on brain anatom...
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October 27, 2025 • 58 mins
Our guest was identified on the autism spectrum with the label he prefers, Asperger's Syndrome, and began his identification journey of what it means to be on the spectrum. As we conclude this month's focus on attachment, Michael shares from his book, Sacred Attachment, that discovering God's love, affection, and delight in us was life-changing. Michael shares many insights, but leans in on his definition of humility and how it is ...
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October 20, 2025 • 54 mins
Continuing this month's topic on attachment and attunement, we have with us today the Life Model Works Executive Director, Marlene Allen. So many of our clients and listeners ask how I can have joy in pain or return to joy when things seem hopeless. Isn't that like just being happy and faking it until you make it?
No!
Today, we talk about adversity, pain, and lament, and how they differ from complaining and venting, which are stuck i...
No!
Today, we talk about adversity, pain, and lament, and how they differ from complaining and venting, which are stuck i...
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October 15, 2025 • 58 mins
This month, we are focusing on Attachment! Dan invited a previous guest and attachment expert, Dr. W. Jesse Gill, to join the guys to talk about attachments. What do powder milk biscuits have to do with attachment? Just the Guys cast Greg, Jeremy, and Clay discuss with Dan and Dr. Gill thoughts and questions about attachment.
Dr. Gill's site: https://www.facetofaceliving.com/our-story
7 Keys to Intimacy: https://www.facetofaceliving...
Dr. Gill's site: https://www.facetofaceliving.com/our-story
7 Keys to Intimacy: https://www.facetofaceliving...
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October 13, 2025 • 60 mins
Attachment to God!
What a huge topic to cover! Today, Dr. Stephanie and Barbara talk with Geoffrey & Cyd Holsclaw about intimacy and attachment to God.
We continue our month-long deep dive on ATTACHMENT/INTIMACY.
Topics in our discussion:
Right brain vs left brain stuff- logical approach to knowing about God, to relational attachment to or with God.
The old marriage triangle of husband and wife at the bottom, as you grow closer to ...
What a huge topic to cover! Today, Dr. Stephanie and Barbara talk with Geoffrey & Cyd Holsclaw about intimacy and attachment to God.
We continue our month-long deep dive on ATTACHMENT/INTIMACY.
Topics in our discussion:
Right brain vs left brain stuff- logical approach to knowing about God, to relational attachment to or with God.
The old marriage triangle of husband and wife at the bottom, as you grow closer to ...
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October 6, 2025 • 70 mins
Today's podcast kicks off a new series, running through November 3rd, and concludes with Dr. Karl Lehman. This 6-week series focuses on identity, attachment, wounds, lament, and securing our attachment in Christ, not your marriage.
In this episode of Neurodiverse Christian Couples, hosts Dan and Stephanie welcome back neurotheologian Dr. Jim Wilder for a deep dive into identity formation, attachment, and the brain, especially as it ...
In this episode of Neurodiverse Christian Couples, hosts Dan and Stephanie welcome back neurotheologian Dr. Jim Wilder for a deep dive into identity formation, attachment, and the brain, especially as it ...
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September 29, 2025 • 69 mins
Today, Dan & Stephanie try to cover a difficult topic using stories that can happen with neurodiverse couples and weaving in the story of Elizabeth Holmes/ Theranos after seeing the documentary on HBO Max about remembering differently, different priorities, and lying to oneself.
Often, the couple remembers something differently (more often than not) and gets stuck in the weeds on whether a fact is true or not true instead of so...
Often, the couple remembers something differently (more often than not) and gets stuck in the weeds on whether a fact is true or not true instead of so...
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September 22, 2025 • 35 mins
Part 2 of the " Can a NeuroDiverse Couple Truly Be Happy discussion.
If you missed part 1, check out the catalog as of September 1!
Colleague and Neurodiverse Couple Specialist Jodi Carlton interviewed us for her show, Your NeuroDiverse Couple Podcast, Season 5. Stephanie and Dan were featured in the Couples Who are Making It!
We also talk about our book Uniquely Us! Get the book here: https://www.christianneurodiversemarriage.com/...
If you missed part 1, check out the catalog as of September 1!
Colleague and Neurodiverse Couple Specialist Jodi Carlton interviewed us for her show, Your NeuroDiverse Couple Podcast, Season 5. Stephanie and Dan were featured in the Couples Who are Making It!
We also talk about our book Uniquely Us! Get the book here: https://www.christianneurodiversemarriage.com/...
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September 17, 2025 • 46 mins
In this episode of Just the Guys, the hosts — joined by a new guest, Kevin — tackle the important and nuanced topic of anger, meltdowns, and their impact on relationships. Drawing from their own neurodiverse experiences and relationships, they explore whether “meltdown” and “anger” are interchangeable, and how these emotional states affect not only the individual but everyone around them.
They discuss how to recognize the line betw...
They discuss how to recognize the line betw...
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September 15, 2025 • 42 mins
Can Neurodiverse marriages work?
Can they be satisfying and healthy?
Does autism really ruin marriage and family- NO!
Does the training of your coach or counselor matter- YES!
You will hear an introduction by neurodiverse relationship expert and coach Jodi Carlton. Jodi has been instrumental in forming a peer support group for neurodiverse couples from around the world. You will hear some panelists who have also been part of the show, ...
Can they be satisfying and healthy?
Does autism really ruin marriage and family- NO!
Does the training of your coach or counselor matter- YES!
You will hear an introduction by neurodiverse relationship expert and coach Jodi Carlton. Jodi has been instrumental in forming a peer support group for neurodiverse couples from around the world. You will hear some panelists who have also been part of the show, ...
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September 8, 2025 • 62 mins
Today, Barbara was unable to co-host with Dr. Stephanie. For today, Dr. Stephanie is joined by Jeremy Rochford of Our Neuro Fam and Just the Guys to discuss Dr. Attwood's newest book, written by co-author Maxine Aston.
This year marks 5 years of the ND Couples Podcast, and we welcome Dr. Tony Attwood back to the show to share his decades of experience.
Professor Tony Attwood is a clinical psychologist who has specialized in autism sp...
This year marks 5 years of the ND Couples Podcast, and we welcome Dr. Tony Attwood back to the show to share his decades of experience.
Professor Tony Attwood is a clinical psychologist who has specialized in autism sp...
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September 1, 2025 • 52 mins
Colleague and Neurodiverse Couple Specialist Jodi Carlton interviewed us for her show for Season 5- Your NeuroDiverse Couple Podcast. Stephanie and Dan were featured in the Couples Who are Making It! We also discuss our book, Uniquely Us!
Get the book here:
https://www.christianneurodiversemarriage.com/uniquelyus
According to our research, 10-12% of ND Christian Couples are satisfied or thriving!
We can do better!
Let go of religious ...
Get the book here:
https://www.christianneurodiversemarriage.com/uniquelyus
According to our research, 10-12% of ND Christian Couples are satisfied or thriving!
We can do better!
Let go of religious ...
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August 25, 2025 • 58 mins
We hope you have been following this entire month of podcasts on sex, porn, addiction, healthy sexuality, and now total intimacy.
Today, we look at what total intimacy is.
Is there such a thing as the sin of withholding? Where did that come from? Is it the wife's duty to cover or pay for her husband's sin? What is con·cu·pis·cence, and can Stephanie even say it?
Today, we look at what total intimacy is.
Is there such a thing as the sin of withholding? Where did that come from? Is it the wife's duty to cover or pay for her husband's sin? What is con·cu·pis·cence, and can Stephanie even say it?
- Where did this thought originate that men must have sex every three d...
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August 18, 2025 • 52 mins
Today, Dr. Stephanie is solo but has a discussion the church needs to hear with Dr. Andrew Bauman.
Andrew has been on the show before, but this month our focus is on porn or sexual abuse and addiction, and what is healthy?
Dr. Stephanie asks Dr. Andrew:
What is an appreciation of beauty vs. "bounce the eyes" and devouring beauty?
What is healthy masculinity?
How has the Church devalued women?
What is sexual intimacy?
Dr. Stephanie mention...
Andrew has been on the show before, but this month our focus is on porn or sexual abuse and addiction, and what is healthy?
Dr. Stephanie asks Dr. Andrew:
What is an appreciation of beauty vs. "bounce the eyes" and devouring beauty?
What is healthy masculinity?
How has the Church devalued women?
What is sexual intimacy?
Dr. Stephanie mention...
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August 13, 2025 • 50 mins
In this episode of Just the Guys, Dan interviews Michael Cusick—licensed counselor, ordained minister, and founder of Restoring the Soul—to discuss the deeper spiritual and emotional roots of sexual addiction, particularly pornography, as explored in his book Surfing for God.
Michael vulnerably shares his own journey from trauma, addiction, and shame to healing and restoration. He explains that many Christian approaches to pornograp...
Michael vulnerably shares his own journey from trauma, addiction, and shame to healing and restoration. He explains that many Christian approaches to pornograp...
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August 11, 2025 • 33 mins
Continuing our focus on porn and sex addiction and autism sexuality with expert Candice Christiansen.
Today, we talk about the co-occurrence and reasons Autistic people can struggle with porn or sex addiction. Diagnosed later in life herself and now an expert in the field of autism and sexuality, Candice provides a breadth of information that listeners or viewers (YT) will benefit from. This is not a faith-based discussion today.
Ab...
Today, we talk about the co-occurrence and reasons Autistic people can struggle with porn or sex addiction. Diagnosed later in life herself and now an expert in the field of autism and sexuality, Candice provides a breadth of information that listeners or viewers (YT) will benefit from. This is not a faith-based discussion today.
Ab...
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