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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Very saving, it is willing we are. The Kingdom of
God is not coming as five used to be observed
in n Do they say lovable here it is? Or fair?

(00:21):
Or the Kingdom of God? It is within him? Let
me take this literally. I'm recover went not see your faces.
I see to move, and.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Everything I see seems so completely independent of my.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Perception of it is really within me. When Blake said,
all that you need from.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Nobody appears without it is with me in your own emilation.
Alas that's world and mortality is not a shadow? Is
that true? Everything in the fast enormous world.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Is the human.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Imagination, the only thing that's enough to contain the immensity
of space. The thing is the human imagination. One would
the plants be called God by a dignify God with
human imagination?

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Are you doing this now? I close the gap between
God and man that if all thing is impossible to God,
I should be able to test with fear. If not,
pruding is my imagination and all things impossible to him,

(01:49):
I should be able to test it. And we're told
a plan to test him. To test yourself and see,
do you do.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Not realize that Jesus Christ is indeed unless they pause
to fail to meet the test. But how to make
the test? How self about making the test? But first
of all, wild ask for you. When I asked of
everyone that I address, Paul saved his methers to the relations.

(02:25):
Let him who is thought share all the good things
with him who teaches. Now Paul will not ask him
for any earthly goods.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
That the head he was asking me to share.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Him the results of their experiments, that he in turn
could take their stories and tell it two dollars to.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Encourage their faith.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
So I'm would have asked you to test it and
then share with me the results of your testing. No
longer that your dreams, your patience, I would like to
hear them. Well, that's how God reveals himself to himself
in man.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
We are told him there is a prophet.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Among him either Lord who made it myself never un
to hear him in anti, I will speak with him
in a dream. And well, this is not a friend
of mine being here recently. This man, I must tell you,
is a very successful I will say business. Pay is

(03:40):
a writer, but he's always busy writing for pictures, writing
the kid, and his income is enormous. He never visited
a meeting in La and here recently he said me
a better, He said, you ask me to share them
with you. Any experience of mine, such as a vision,

(04:03):
a dream, all my practical down to earth experiences in
the application of this principle, or here is a dream
even first of all, I must breakfast the dream?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Did he ask me in his atom?

Speaker 2 (04:19):
If I was familiar with Bob Disclaire, where the central
character tries.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
To convince the girl that he can move from one century.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
To another, seven twentieth century to the eighteenth century, I
many li likens inture someone on the river, and his
destination is around the bay. His preasent is very venius
on the bower, his future is around the bay. But
someone elevated about the earth, having a view of hole

(04:53):
size of the river, would see the man's future and
his present as present. But that man is going and
where he is, but the present to the one elevated.
But he said, my dream began in this manner. I
was the observer from about I looked down and I

(05:18):
saw infinite possibilities of man.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
You couldn't conceive of.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
A plot, whether the thought of a tragedy or some
glorious block, some horrible thing or some marvelous thing, but
anything conceivable cloth that man would ever conceive anyone was present.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Broke up in the most minu detail.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I'm strangely though, they were all contained in apon man.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Here is the form of a prone man.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Now, he said, Don't ask me how infinite stakes of
consciousness and the possibilit bigness could be limited by the
form of a man.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
But there it was.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I'm only telling you what I experienced. If I contemplated this,
it was the deadest thing I had ever seen. And
yet I shouldn't use the word a dead, because something
that is dead suggests it must have believed with a

(06:31):
previous plight to it. It is now dead, so he
seemed to me an inanimate thing. I looked at it,
and then I began to wait on the sunset humbard
of the groups.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Supermarket people were on the side of the walks.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
There were cause on the street, but here anything was frozen.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
But everything was rossen, three dimensional, but frozen.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
And I knew that I alone began of it, as
I knew that while.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
My son was frozen. I looked at myself. I'm gus
that they are.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
The small and frozen, and I knew only as I
became alive would they become I. And so I took
a step, and I seemed to pass through our invisible
clean At that very moment of taking a step, everyone
became alive and began in moved the sound that knowledge,

(07:35):
the action evining, and.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
I knew there was something I was trying to remember.
What is it I am trying to remember? I kept
on a walking. I must have gone of love.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
It seemed like a normal walk, the kind of wall
I tell you every day. And everything is alive and
been defended to me and vain, I remembered, as I
remember with him, I returned around and looked and changed
the focus of my attention and placed it back about,

(08:11):
and everything once more became proven and life less. From
this exalted state, I remembered, I didn't talk to them,
and without training the reason I wanted to speak with people.
And at that moment, I found myself in the living

(08:34):
room where apartment was in progress, but they were frozen,
and as I ended, I was broken.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
And I wanted Am I the host? Am I the guest?
They all seemed to know me, and I don't know
one of them, And for a.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Moment I panicked for I knew the party would come
to a land and I didn't know her to go.
So I remembered I completely put good one second before
as I became involved in the party.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Then I'm trying to remember something. I remember the.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Sunset boulevard expressions. Remembering that and how I escaping of it,
I walked over to a seat, a chair, I sat
down and closed my eyes, and that I changed the
focus of my attention. One more place is not here
with the party, but above. I opened my eyes and

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they're all closed.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Here one is struggle, and that.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I found myself once more about at this exalted state.
I looked Abadia and here is myself on a bed,
and I had riding fibered one idea.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Now I know I can change more.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Myself from its present state into the most desire to
state that I will like to experience. And then I
realized how impossible that would be. From this level, I
can't change any state.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
These states are permanent.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
I would have to go down and identify myself with
that being and from that level once more play the game.
And so at that moment I began to awake. I
am on my bed and I have known knowledge of

(10:44):
the dream to me at six thirty in the morning,
I can't conceive that I am a dream. I went
to my library and started the metal recording of your
last lection.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
And something you.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Say treated the mem and it all came back in
detail as I just told you. Then I said, did
I seem investment.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Or that I mean it long long, long ago.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
I don't know, but however it thrilled me, and said
thought I should then at the very game to make
it a light or ever he said it to my doctor,
and he said, in fact, he congratulated me on my
rapping is a good recovery. And he asked me if

(11:40):
I'd done something or and it's the fifth soul telling.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
All about it. So I said, I did it all
in my imagination, I imagine.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
I said, you're opus and you were saying to me
exact what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
And then I began to.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Explain to him how imagination works, that raduation creates reality.
He said to me in an elderly philosophical manner. You know,
my wife thinks things like that. One very flattery, But
he said, this is a strange experience without writhing. Recently

(12:17):
on Sunday after you, and the radio was turned in
to a bong game.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
And this man is coming to bed.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
And I dislike him, and I say to my wife,
he should.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Meet the big league.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
He can't late, he can't catch, and he can't run.
Why would I get his He try he met the
big lead. And she said to me, you shouldn't think
things like that.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
He should think nice things about him and see him.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Doing multiful things. He said, all right, I'm bill. I'll
see him a holla. He steps to the plate and
the first of old fish he buls it into the breaches,
and then said he to his wife, I'll never do
that again.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
It's too best.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
I must tell you the lecture that tray you me
the memory of his dream.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Well, here we all are.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Seated in this room, and we think we are here
and complete this, and one his dream signifies we will
not take the car.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
And yet you're the.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Animating Boma of the universe, the whole balance world. He
is moving around here because you are getted by with
the present state. Well, the thing he began to recall
was this, I found myself in dreaming, without knowing it

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was a dream. I found myself. It's on a crowded
subway train in New York City. I was probing to
my friend Dad, but the train was crowded. Through the guards,
I heard the bows of the conductor.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Saying, it leaves to knock pass against.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
The doors, they may spring. The people couldn't help it.
But in spite of the crowd, I could see the
individuate distinctly, and the ladies wore more beautiful to Nicha.
I mean, they're all duraful and do the the draft.
But I turned to my friend David as a baby,

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how could I believe?

Speaker 1 (14:29):
What can you believe? That all the b be home?
God appears without it, leans within in.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Power, imagination, and this whole last girl is simply a shadow.
How could these lovely ladies be in me and the train?
And the train was as calm as the station allowed.
When you need you couldn't pot me.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
On this level? Accepted.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Then the train stopped and we come off, walked up
the stairs to loo. Then he said to me, you're
going by the post office launching.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
I said yes. He said, do me a paper and
post these evers for me.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
I took the lets and said, oh, they properly stamm
and addressed, and I chartually not because it is curious
what he's writing, just to see that the world's properly
stepped on away goodbye to him, and turned in the
direction of.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
The post office.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
That he went the opposite direction, And I found myself waiting,
would they know me?

Speaker 1 (15:35):
So? What can two him?

Speaker 2 (15:36):
To try to reach our objectivity? And stuff dextivity on.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Holdly detail involved me in the danger home.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
But the bappol on which is consciousness is published on
the infection it's subjective.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
When I was actually having these springs, it wasn't subjective.
It was objective.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Only when I woke and be think upon the experience
that I reply to it as a subjective experience. This
is now objective an powerful nowog you think of.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
This room and the meeting to you will.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Be a subjective experience of memory emiliation. So I say
everything is truly within.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Now you can just you take your dream a day dream.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Or something you want for yourself or something you want
for another, and your representation to yourself a scene which,
if true, implies the fulfillment of that thing you like.
You'll guess that and the other, and so you will
constructency any kind of a scene imply the fulfillment of

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your desire.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
And day.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
To the degree that your self persuading of the reality
of that imagine of act, it will become fat in
your world. I could tear you unnumbered stories to support
that claim. It's not a theory of me anymore. This
is fact based on my experience. So when we are

(17:14):
told in the Book of You the Kingdom of God
is within you, you can take it and limit.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
These garments that you and I aware.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Our parts of the internal structure of the universe. You're
wearing the garment as an act to wear of the costume.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
You are not the garment you were.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
You're doing this for a purpose, a heavenly purpose. But
you are not these garments.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
You are that being. But my friend discovered who sees
it from above, and.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
To see this universe from above is thought completely unlike
was it.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Appears to be seen on this ankle is not at all.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
But you come down into this world of death. Poorlogordness,
don't break me this observation. And he claims he did
not write it from his conscious, pleasoning mind, that the
word were dictated by the spirit of love.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
But God is loved. There forgive the spirit of.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Love dictated the words of Jerusalem, that it is God
dictating him. And in this he said, those who really eternity,
who contemplate on love, or rather something played on death.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Saying this.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
What seems to be is to those to whom it
seems to be even of a torobance display and eternal death.
But the buying as he steps beyond and redeems in
the body of Jesus. But that's something that man can

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grasp on this death. But I tell you it is
true to stand in the presence, out the risen rust
and remove with him, face to face and voice to voice.
Then to help us out his infinite love embrace you.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
And as he embraces you, you fuse with him without
loss of identity, no changeing your identity. And yet you
wrong with the body of Christ. And then he sends you.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
He trys to think you without himself because you want
with him. There's no divorcement nor seperature in that moment.
Are so when he takes the statement, the rhine worthy
steps beyond and redeems men in.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
The body of Christ. So in my last little.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Pemdrey, I made the statement, I made an experience that
you and I are resurrected one by one to re
unite into a single man who is gone.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
So here is a reflection he saw in his.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Dream a man rob containing in infinity.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
And the deadest thing you've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Gba places a limitation, and then he takes upon himself
that limitation and reaches, in this act the very limit
of contraction that he maintain, expand beyond what he was.
He takes upon himself and limited our capacity, and then
beginues to expand. And there's no limit to translooss to transparency.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
This is the world, all the world of death.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
But while you're in it and we ourselves are animating, well,
you can take any stately desire. There are any finite
a number of states. You can be in the poor
state or a wealthy state. You're not better off as
far as the life goes, because the one is poor.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
And one is wealthy. Not M's piritial point of him.
But while you're in your world of season, why not
be comfortable? Why not take a state that cushions and comforts.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
And so you can take a state of affluence that
you know what I would like, or you have fout
assume that you are and see the world as you
will see if you're a true and then.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
I was accented.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Believe in the reality of that unseen imaginal act.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
And if you do, it will come the best.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Because the whole best world who really is within you?

Speaker 1 (22:01):
And hear what others which had him? It's all within you,
and everyone moving in your world loves because of you.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
William James made the statement that the greatest revolution in
his God was the discovery that man, by changing the
inner attitudes of his mind, would changed the outer aspects
of his life. Now, Jane belongs to our generation the
same thing. He's gone from the barl But he was

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the great educator of the twentieth cents, and he said the.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Greatest revolution in his time was this discovery. What the
great Google books.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
The Bible makes that statement, not as James made it.
But why would you interrupted this? Whatever you desire, believe
that you have received it, New Bill, Isn't that the
one conditioning towards upon me or you is to persuade

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itself that we haven't. How would I persuade myself when
at the moment the reason denies it and.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
My sense is denied. But change said he could change.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
They can ask attitudes of his mind, and then he
wants to helping from changing your attitude towards the speeding
you'll be like him or dislike him. And then you
dislike of him causes him that to confirm your decide,
and you'd like the disciple, then keep it up. If
you don't like that reaction, you could change your adviting

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so with him and he automatity and unknowing what that
in the way that you would like him? Have you
been making it this any person.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
In this world? So if I am that free, but
I don't.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Have to get your permission to hold an opinion on him.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
But I can hold him regardless of him.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
And if I hold it and perstray myself out of
the antha, out that opinion of it, and you conform
to it, am I not free? I am free to
entertain any thought. And if I am and introduces results,
but then I'm a free.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Person, even in the world of season. So here I
do hope life and persuade you that the whole vast.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
World, or you seem so small and insignificant to yourself,
the whole vast universe is breeding within you, and so
you can take it this day and tested.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
You're invited to test it, and will you get your results?

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Should tell me about it. Write the letter and explain
what you need and how I write. And if you're
dress this night with the legion, I could love to
hear it. For God makes himself known to man in vision,
and he speaks with a man through a dream.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Don't try him in to the dream. Tell me just
what happened.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I've made it. Not attempt to interpret it. He told
exactly what happened when my election that he was about
to record. Treat it the memory of the dream, but
all from.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
His experience is what lessing he was learning?

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Is this I've forgotten? I must remember if everyone you
could now persuade himself. You're trying to remember something. He
lost the memory of it when you came this now
in the scale, and you're trying to remember. What he
was trying to remember on was that exalted position where

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he saw the whole thing as date when he came
down into the body of death and completely forgot who
he really was. And people are shocked when you tell
them that be of Christ, all things run true to origins.
If my origin is God, my thing must be done

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as the policeaid you see yonder fields. The sessum was essemen,
the pawn was called the silence, and the darkness knew.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
And so is a man's faithborn.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
If I believe, what if I to tell me that
my origin is a worm.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
My pain is a word.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
If I believe in the Bible and my origin is God,
my thing is done. And I don't choose them any more.
I know that from its price. I don't have to
spaederate about the risen Christ.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
I don't have to speggerate of God being loved. I
stood in the presence of God, and he's in for
of love. Are not baking my head? And that God
is man, As Blake said, thou art a man. God
is no more my own humanity. He learned to it all.

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God up theirs. And God is light to those poor
fellows who dwell inn. But does a human.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Form display but those who dwell in realms of day.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
So here you'll marry the form of God. You are God.
He gave me his name as the name that he
reveals to the old fast forever. If you take it
is I am, so that's my name forever to be known.

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I'll be known by it. Throughout all generations.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
But we won't stop there. He say, I am John,
a poor ch an unknown John.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
And I wanted John.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
And these are the mistations and the restriction be put
upon the name of God.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
But if I would remember the name, I would be
all about the name.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
I'd only put a planet that which is noble, that
which is free. And if I did it, I would
walk in that light. So do me a favor and
try it.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Try it. I promised you for my own.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Sprince that you would get the results. You wouldn't have
to flung anyone in this world.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
But no one. There's a simple little story.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Two weeks ago, just before I closed, I was about
to close, and my wife said, a million down there
is a little unfinished business.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Afraid of our owes you some money. You'll never ask
him for it. You never read.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
He will never thank you to any one, but heive
you the money. You're closing up for the entire psalum.
He will not be hearing to leave, for I don't
think it's fair to.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Him, very fair to me.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
And he continues in depth, without ever mentioning the fact
that he goes to the money.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
I said, all right, if you want the money. He's
a kiss. I said, all, I.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Will do it my own way. I will not ask
him for it. I will not writing for it, I will.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Not performing for him.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
But I will do it in my own way of imagination.
So I imagine, first of all he had the money.
You can't get it in someone who has the money.
So at first of all, as soon he had it,
and then I went beyond that. You could have the
money and be unwilling to pay.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
That's you know.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Then they have the videoms and I'll open the growth
store has the one played.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
So I first of all saw him with.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Money, lots of money, and then I saw him really
and the geeka to play me. And then I received
from him but that they opened beside date on Wednesday.
On Friday, the phone rang about four point thirty. It
was my friend he has me called me over a year.

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He said, I have busy tonight. I said, yes, I'm
next me tonight. He said that's right, it's Friday night. Well,
my wife and I will tell to the meeting to night.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
It's property, all right. So he came to the meeting.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
After the meeting, he said, you ride home with me
and Bill, who's my wife? She will go home with
the one who brought you, and my wife will go
with you with her. So we went on to the
parking lot, and he always drove and old jilopy something
falling apart. But I saw nothing like that in the lot,

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and it took me over till was this wonderful price.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
The knew you the model. There's everything in.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
It that money could buy. But he drove me help
a young carl was hundred thousand miles. Not a one
was saved on the way home about money.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Not a word was said. That's farm the one who
drove my wife, and leave my phone.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
The happed about four to eleven, and then five minutes
later she opened her purse and said, there, this is long,
long overture, but I think you lof I didn't know them,
and handed me a check for twelve hundred dollars. I
never asked for it, never once in the five years.

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He told it to me that I would breathe it,
and heb She gave me twelve hundredaws.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
This is how it works, if you believe in the.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Reality of your own bunderful, immaginal acts.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
They came out of the northern and now he has
money things don't pay for it.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
He's completely out of data and free of that feeling
of owing phrase money over so many many years.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
So try it.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
I'm going to share with me the results of your expertment.
And now I think I'm gonna have my phrase the
ushes the best among you. Yeah everything, Ever, did you

(32:59):
have a ques she should reject every dreaming seriously or
only a few? And how would we distinguish the difference
between a significant dream I du in ordinary dream? Well,
first of all, every dream is a communication from God.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Every dream has meaning.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
What we are past masters and misinterpreting the dream might
often beneath the hell of someone who understands a universal
language of simpleism.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
As that is a universal language of symbolism.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
But if, for instance, I have a dream concerning a page,
it doesn't mean I'm gonna have broth pork for dinner.
A bay is a universal symbol of the redeemer of
the universe, either redeemer and the creator or one.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
So follow the.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Reasoning behind the pay What was it in the story
of the thing I had that dream?

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Here was this little page?

Speaker 2 (34:06):
It's an enormous the interior who had ever displayed flowers
and plays all kinds of vegetation and just clothing.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Time.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
I noticed there's a little bay and little run, and
so see no one around. I picked him up and
placed you on something or as tall as this.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
And then I had looked some flowers, and I took
some green leaves and made them paid for him. And
I also knew that.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
It may not be the best food for him, but
he could survive on flowers and leaves until someone opened
the place the next day and day this happens in dreams.
They just quickly shifted, and now I'm on the inside
of it enormous supermarket, and looking down here.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Is the big.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
And the bait is a tall, thin rain she follow
quite thin. But I found these at the tiny runt
and they need I don't care if I do it.
It's the same pig. I say to my daughter Vicky.
I said, Villie, give me some practice for the pig.
And she said, I haven't any money, Daddy, I said,

(35:12):
all this belongs to us as no favors.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Don't take it. Fix some practice.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Meanwhile, I started needing something to feed him, and my
brother Victor came.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
By and he said, what are you doing? Is I'm
getting some food for my baby. And then he added
some very thick looking raining free heaping her handfuls. I
thanked him.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
I started to complete with kneeding, and then I thought
a way over to a huge perimid of tractice, and
she pulled one from the base, which unbalanced the entire picture.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
They all fail.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
As they fail, they reveal the little candle about four
inches store and the candle was lit, and I say
to her, that's my chandle.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Then the words and scripture came into my mind, the
words of Job and the words of proverbs. The spirit
of man is the cancer of the Lord.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
And when his candle shines upon my forehead, by its sight,
I walk through dogs.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
So I said to Vickie, do not put the tractors back.
That's slidden now.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
He must never be hid again, never be put under bay,
under a bushel, under anything. Never that that light is late.
He must remain of it.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
And then I woke while here's the the universal symbol
of the redeemon.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
When I found that imagine creates meality and told him
it doesn't obtain my life. I don't have opportunities to
exercise it. The thingness of the pig reveal to me,
I had not been as faithful to the feeding of
Price as I should have been. He symbolizes Christ, and
I knew how to feed him by exercising my imagination loving.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Be gonna be careful all that. Ye, when I saw
the opportunity.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
To help and didn't exercise my imagination, jupping me on
behalf of the album when need to help, I didn't
feed them. I am feeding Christ every time I exercise
my imagination and in a nothing matter.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
So that's the interpretation of fathe.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
If I didn't know the language of symbolism, I would
abundant once for my dream will of Pigon.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
And the whole thing seem so stupid. Yet that was
communicating to me my life of.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Exercising what I knew that everyone knows imagine creates reality,
so you can judge them.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
But if you know it I you don't exercise it,
you are not feeding Christ. And the other questions makes
rock what and why we find it off with the Bible.

(38:04):
The role that you can.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Resolute it from translation of the scripture the most literal
all things, when you see the psychological meaning behind the story.
So from that literal story you bring forth water. You're
told in the Book of Genesis. He turned into the
field and the vell was covered with a rock, a stone.

(38:27):
He rolled away the stone and watered the sheep, and
then you rolled it back again. So every man comes
to the rock, which is the Bible, the rock from God.
He sees, he helows out read. He can read it,
but he has to turn it into water. So he
turned stone into water, getting the psychological meaning of the story.

(38:50):
His youth of that story psychologically converts water into wine.
So we are told him some of these. Never a pause,
That affimathy maybe no more worthy. Use a little wine
for your stunn Off saying, and you have many infirmatives

(39:10):
and as the commediate soul the psychological meaning all day long,
and never apply it.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Take a little wine. Now, if you take that literally,
you may go and get plastered. But he doesn't need
it that way. He means that once you know the
truth and use it, the use of it.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Turns the ball into wine. But not to deal you,
I kill you both, you know, I don't hear you correctly.

(40:06):
It's a child's day on a child. Not to be
a child is the greatest of all significance. The child
is something created.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Christ is always symbolized as a child.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Always, the child Christ is the created power and the
wisdom of God, and that power.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Is always disonified as a child. Always in the age
Chaptain of problems.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
And when He created the world, before he brought forth anything,
I still beside him as a little child, and I
was daily his delight. Oh I am his creative power,
his wisdom. He who finds me finds I. He who
misses me aches himself. He who hates me loves death.

(41:03):
And so you'll find it a child. The day will
come you all bring forth the Christ child. Everyone will
give birth to chlast and bring forth that.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Power of God. Rather insvolved in travels in the former
little dain, where did you to me? It's self explanatory.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
You're going to have been worried about something, and you
hear a voice of authority asking you what are you
worrying about, and tell you not to worry, and reveals
itself into glorious eyes, and you are concerned, no, because
that is the most wonderful symbol of health.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
But then it's been off. The dreams now again. Now

(42:48):
I wouldn't say that anyone stays in it. In the
course of the day.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
You and I change state after state after state, number
of states the course of day.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
But we do have one to which we return constantly.
That's where we live.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
That state, that emotion into which we most often returned,
constitutes the true self, the true state that the one
is always hatching out. If I don't like the fruit
that it pays, I should know something about planting a
new kind of a state or treat, but the individual
of planting, for instance, like see the money I got

(43:22):
my friend I deliver Wednesday. He gave it to be
on Friday in the end of when I didn't do
it again, never thought of it again. My wife asked
me to do it, or was unfinished business.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
So I did it. But now the Bible teaches that
the vision has its own uponded all in rightfulness. In
a flower, even be long in wheat, for it is sure,
and it will not be late, not be late for
itself no tue.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Infregnations have the same even of time between conception and birth.
A child, it be human, takes nine months, alls next twelve.
A chicken takes three three weeks, and so see is
how they are different inters of time. That's true also
of concepts, where I can conceive themselves to be this

(44:15):
than or the other. And then that interval between the
conception and his birth is determined by the nature of
the conception.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
The other questions always built to the end, the games
will be beginning. What would be like were it true?
That's the game, isn't I have no concern with the means.
I go to the end, and the game determines the meanings.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
It's by a ways and means you know not of,
and by a ways of pass funding out, So you're
concerned with here the end. Holy beginded remaining favor for
a moment to get the reaction of the thriller that
he motedly comes with success, and then took him
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