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April 22, 2025 • 54 mins
Our Guest:
Michael McAdams
https://spiritspeaks.com/

Let's start by acknowledging that the energetic realm is just as real as the physical one, even if we can't always see or touch it. Just like there are positive and supportive energies, there can also be energies that feel draining, heavy, or even negative. These "negative entities" aren't always what Hollywood portrays. Often, they are lower vibrational energies, thought forms, or even residual emotional imprints that can attach to our energy field, causing feelings of fatigue, anxiety, confusion, or even physical discomfort.

Understanding How Negative Energy Can Affect You:
  • Lowered Vibration: Negative energy operates at a lower frequency and can pull your own vibration down, making you feel sluggish, irritable, or pessimistic.
  • Emotional Drain: You might experience unexplained feelings of sadness, anger, or fear that don't seem to originate from your own experiences.
  • Mental Fog: Clarity of thought can become difficult, leading to confusion, indecisiveness, and difficulty focusing.
  • Physical Discomfort: In some cases, prolonged exposure to negative energy can manifest as physical ailments or a general feeling of being unwell.
  • Increased Negative Thoughts: Negative energy can amplify your own negative thought patterns, creating a vicious cycle.
Practical Strategies for Protecting Yourself from Negative Entities:

This isn't about living in fear, but about empowering yourself to maintain a healthy energetic boundary. Here are some effective techniques:
  1. Strengthen Your Aura: Your aura is your energetic shield. Imagine it as a vibrant, protective bubble of light surrounding you.
    • Visualization: Regularly visualize your aura becoming stronger, brighter, and more resilient. Imagine it deflecting any negativity that comes your way.
    • Affirmations: Use affirmations like, "My aura is strong and protects me," or "I am surrounded by divine light and protection."
    • Spend Time in Nature: Nature's high vibrations naturally cleanse and strengthen your aura.
  2. Grounding: Being grounded connects you to the Earth's stable energy, making you less susceptible to external influences.
    • Barefoot Walking: Walk barefoot on grass or soil for a few minutes each day.
    • Visualization: Imagine roots extending from the soles of your feet deep into the Earth, anchoring you and drawing up stable energy.
    • Grounding Stones: Carry or wear grounding stones like black tourmaline, smoky quartz, or hematite.
  3. Cleansing Your Energy Field and Space: Regularly clear away any accumulated negative energy.
    • Smudging: Burn dried sage (controversial), palo santo, or other cleansing herbs and allow the smoke to waft around your body and your home. Set a clear intention for cleansing.
    • Salt Baths: Add Epsom salt or sea salt to a warm bath. Salt is a natural energy cleanser. Visualize any negativity dissolving into the water.
    • Sound Cleansing: Use singing bowls, bells, or even clapping to break up stagnant energy in your space.
    • Crystals: Place protective crystals like black tourmaline, obsidian, or amethyst in your home and carry them with you.
  4. Setting Energetic Boundaries: Learn to say "no" energetically and verbally to unwanted influences.
    • Visualization: Imagine a clear, impermeable boundary of light around you that only allows positive and loving energy to enter.
    • Intention: Clearly state your intention to protect your energy. You can say silently or aloud, "I am protected. Only positive energy can enter my space."
    • Limit Exposure: Be mindful of the environments, media, and people that tend to drain your energy.
  5. Raise Your Vibration: Negative energy cannot exist in high vibrational frequencies like love, joy, gratitude, and peace.
    • Practice Gratitude: Regularly focus on what you're thankful for.
    • Engage in Joyful Activities: Do things that bring you happiness and lift your spirits.
    • Cultivate Loving Thoughts: Focus on compassion and kindness towards yourself and others.
    • Listen to Uplifting Music: Music has a powerful impact on your energy.
Now, let's shift our focus to the beautiful and supportive presence of our spirit guides. These are loving, non-physical beings who are here to assist us on our life journey. They can be ancestors, ascended masters, angels, or other benevolent entities who have our highest good at heart.

Understanding Your Spirit Guides:
  • Their Role: Spirit guides offer guidance, wisdom, support, and love. They can help you navigate challenges, make decisions, and align with your soul's purpose.
  • They Respect Free Will: Guides will not interfere directly with your choices but will offer g
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, so we're talking about channeling today. Is that
what's going on?

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Actually it's not. I know what channeling is, and I
know what automatic writing is, but in this particular case,
these were messages and teachings in the book An Angel
told Me So that were received, dictated word for word
from spirit teachers from the other side, dictated word for

(00:29):
word that my mother actually took down with an electric
typewriter as she saw words. Now channeling For those who
may not know, there are people that are able to
channel spirit teachers or angels you know, depending on your
preferred definition. And they sometimes will even speak in a
different voice as this spirit teacher is channeled through them,

(00:52):
and they'll normally share in a message or a teaching
for an individual that they may be doing a reading.
Formatic writing is a little different. People will sit down
with a tablet and a pen, tune in, relax their mind,
and their hand will start to move and they will
actually have their hand will write out a message. I've

(01:13):
never done that. My mother was never able to do that.
Like I said, we all received, we're all spoken to,
we're all guided, we all have our own spirit teachers,
which are angels just viewed from a different perspective. And
when my mother had received in thought, like most all
of us do from time to time, but when she

(01:34):
was led to sit down in these dedicated sessions, she
had an electric typewriter set up in her kitchen, and
she would say a prayer, ask for protection, because you
are opening your mind, and she would see three or
four words just float into her mind and hang there.
They would not go away until she typed them. Once
she typed those three or four words, they would just

(01:56):
fade away, and three or four more would show up.
How she got these messages single space, typed full page,
many times with no paragraphs. And in these messages and teachings,
these spirit teachers repeatedly refer to themselves in first person.
We feel we believe we advise our view encompasses more

(02:18):
than your view can comprehend. One line in a message said,
we hear the spirit cries about the words you speak.
The talks like that. I don't talk like that.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Sure, yeah, you know. They tell us that all of
the answers are within and all we need to do
is ask in order to get those. So I believe
that all of us can have the ability to have
our questions answered, and our prayers heard, and are you know,
fond guidance and clarity and direction just through this?

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Oh? I agree, I agree. Now these particular messages we
each have. You know, people believe we have a guardian angel,
a spirit teacher. The Urantia book, which is an interesting book,
talks about a personalized thought adjuster, and it says that
the age of our first moral decision, which is usually

(03:19):
around four and four and a half years old, when
we make a decision that shows that we know right
from wrong, we are assigned a personalized thought adjuster, spirit teacher,
guardian angel that stays with us for life to help
us and our choices and decisions. But one of the
problems that we have is that pesky little gift called

(03:39):
free will. And we have the ability to accept or
reject any advice, guidance, direction, or support that we're given.
And if we're led, well, I knew I shouldn't have
bought that car, I knew I shouldn't have gone out
with that person. I knew I shouldn't have taken that job.
But we decide to do it anyway, and we normally
find out that it doesn't work out as well than

(04:01):
if we had paid attention and listened to our spirit
teachers that knew what was in our best interest.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Sure. Yeah, I think a lot of the problem is that,
you know, we're in such a weird space and time
where we have religion and those who are religious believe
in a lot of these things. But then a lot
of people don't believe in a lot of these things.

(04:30):
But regardless, we hear the voices within ourselves and we
don't necessarily always trust them, And you know, we've really
become disconnected from our own mind, much less our spirit.
You know, we know we've been disconnected from our spirit mostly,
but we don't realize how much we've also been disconnected

(04:52):
from our own mind. So learning how to trust that
and lean into that is difficult for a lot of people,
especially those coming from more traumatic backgrounds.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Well, that's true, that's true, and people with a foundation
of faith. I was brought up with a foundation of faith,
church based, Bible based. My mother was a daily reader
of her Bible. My grandmother was a Pentecostal pastor. She
pastored a small Pentecostal church. My uncle was a fiery
Pentecostal preacher. He founded churches in Florida, Kentucky and Ohio,

(05:29):
and he could move a crowd and people who are
unsure about this, especially people with a foundation of faith.
The information that's shared from our spirit teachers, normally, most
always for each of us comes into our minds in thought,
and an incoming thought has a different feel in your

(05:50):
mind than a thought that you think yourself, a thought
that you originate. It's a subtle difference. But once you
understand the difference and can pay it attention to it,
you realize that any thoughts that are coming to your
mind are normally for your benefit and beneficial. Now, if
a negative thought does sneak in, then you just simply

(06:12):
disregard it. We all have our own thoughts system, like
a mini solar system, and we can accept or reject
any thoughts, ideas, or information that we're given. And we
can also establish an aura or a filter of protection
that we can put around our minds so that no
negative thoughts, no negative information is made known to our mind.

(06:35):
And you can do You can do that with the
various forms of affirmations. I'm sure you know what affirmations are, sure,
and people can establish that filter and then with confidence
they can accept the information and guidance and support that's given,
but they still have that opportunity to make up their
own minds.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah. Yeah, mindset work for all of its benefits. I
find it so funny how people would rather go to
the gym and work out really hard for three hours
straight rather than sit with their own thoughts. And that's
so funny because it takes so much effort to do

(07:15):
all of the things in the physical realm that yes,
move us to where we want to be, but at
a very slow pace. Whereas we could get a lot quicker,
we got a lot further, a lot quicker, a lot
easier if we moved through the realms of our mind
and spirit first, Because everything starts in the mind, you know,

(07:39):
the thought comes out, the thought comes up, and then
we choose whether to move in that direction or this direction.
And oftentimes we move entirely too quickly because we've been
programmed to go, go, go, go, go, be productive. Move
hustle culture. An idle mind is dangerous. But in all honesty,

(08:03):
the more space we give our mind, the clearer things
are and the less mistakes we make. For example, when
my children are hurrying to make a bowl of cereal,
say and they're rushing around and they're being clumsy and
they're being reckless. Then oftentimes they spill it and then

(08:23):
we have a hole mestic cleanup, and that took twice
as long, whereas if they had just taken their time
breathed in between the movements, they wouldn't have spilled the
milk and we would have gotten from point A to
point B a lot quicker.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Well, that's true. Don't we wish that we had the
energy that they have at that age? And a lot
of people, I mean a physical workout, you know, to
take your mind off. So many of us. I feel
like I sit too much, either in front of the
computer or you know, with some of the things that
we do. And I try and stay as active as

(08:59):
I possibly can. But for you know, people who want
to develop this ability to communicate with their own spirit teachers,
they need to be able to sit and clear their
mind again, establish that filter of protection and then just
you know, submit whatever it is you're looking for an

(09:20):
answer for, or an answer for someone else that you're
trying to help in their life, and then expect an
answer if you if you make a request and a
plea that you would like some help with this, you
should expect an answer because it will come. And for
people with a foundation of faith, like you know, like

(09:41):
I was brought up and you, I'm sure, and most
other people. I recently read a post that I thought
was really interesting and it said I don't want to
just believe, I want to know. And a lot of
people have come to that point. You know, we've been
told to have faith for two thousand years. For two
thousand years now, we've been told to just have faith

(10:03):
and believe, and people are coming to a point where
and there's so much new information out there, nothing that
conflicts with their foundation of faith. The nice thing about
a foundation is it's something that you can build on,
build on your foundation of faith. But if you don't
want to just believe, if you want to know, then

(10:23):
information such as this, these messages and teachings, and an
angel told me so. And it's an amazing how these
messages and teachings seem to touch everyone who reads them. Now.
Volume one was pretty much a collection of messages and
teachings dictated word for word through my mother. But these

(10:45):
messages were given specifically for my mother, addressed to her,
and then a message addressed to me but it's like
these messages and teachings are woven with a universal thread.
And everyone who has read these messages have said, well,
this sounds like what I'm dealing with. This sounds like
they're talking to me. And I tell people, I say,

(11:05):
when you get the book, read each message once as
it was given for my mom and given for me.
Then read that same message again as if it's being
presented for you, and see what hits. It's amazing, what hits.
It's almost a little spooky. It's like, how they know?
How do they know what I'm dealing with?

Speaker 1 (11:26):
All Right, So we're talking about a book that your
mom received, but then she transcribed it, and then you
turned it into a book for.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Well, she Actually these messages and teachings were received over
a period of twenty two years. I'm doing three volumes
of the book. There are messages in teachings, I said,
volume one were pretty much personal messages to hearn to me.
But as the years went by, higher teachers started moving in,
giving even deeper and more profound teachings, not necessarily addressed

(12:00):
to her or to me, but would mention us in
the message. And what I do is I weave a
narrative as to what was going on in her life
and my life in between each one of these sessions.
But these sessions, these messages and teachings are just so
extremely personal to everyone who reads them. And these spirit

(12:21):
teachers repeatedly refer to themselves as first person. We feel,
we believe, we advise, our view encompasses more than your
view can comprehend. One line in a message on my
website spirit speaks dot com, there's a television interview that
my mother gave in Cincinnati. Posted on her interview as

(12:43):
a message from volume two of the book, which is
not out yet, And this was the only time in
a session where she was led to sit down and
receive Two different spirit teachers moved in in the same session,
gave two different messages and signed two different names. And
it was obvious that the second teacher was a different

(13:03):
teacher than the first because the whole cadence and phrasing
of the message was different. I actually have that first
teacher's message here. It's just a little more than a
long paragraph. May I share this with you and your audience? Okay,
so this was the first teacher that came through. There
is a resurrection period through which man must travel in

(13:25):
order to come into the realm of things. Godlike you
are to consume and digest all that is given here,
as this comes from one highly qualified to meet the
needs of this generation. You are not the sole property
of yourselves. God still holds the everlasting command over your being,
and in him must one take refuge. You are to

(13:45):
be considered as one who has been stripped of all
belongings and left to die by the wayside. In this manner,
are you then open to any help that would be forthcoming.
You are, by your very nature ones who would depend
on your own intellect to car you through. However, by
giving of your soul into the hands of God, do
you prosper and develop more freely into that which denies

(14:08):
the outcome of some situations, knowing full well that it
is the hand of God leading and directing you, so
that you may arise victorious in the end. There is
never a time when you will be without the Father,
nor has ever loving approaches to see that you follow
the path that directs you homeward. Take note that we
say homeward, as your heavenly Father so resides in that

(14:32):
vast and surmountable environment of time and space. So shall
ye abide in joint communication with him, but the grace
with which He covers you, and by your ability to
accept this grace and use it for your own development.
There are others here who wish to make themselves known
to you. So I will step aside for this time.

(14:53):
My love and devotion follows you as you trod onward,
but ever faithful to your goal that musta to assigned
your loving God. Now that next to the last line
is the line that makes me sit up and take notice.
He says, there are others here who wish to make
themselves known to you. My question is who are the others?

(15:16):
And where is here? What do you mean there are
others here? Where are you in relation to us on
this physical plane?

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Okay? Do we have an answer to that?

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yes, they're in the spiritual realm. They are in the
spiritual realm that is adjacent to this physical plane. People
with a foundation of faith would call that heaven. But
I believe that the spiritual realm is so much more
than just heaven, and that spiritual realm exists adjacent to
this physical plane. One line in a message said, we

(15:50):
are here. We are here for you in abundance as
close as your heartbeat. And that's how close this spiritual
realm is. And we have two ways communication, direct communication
with our spirit teachers in this spiritual realm, and they
in turn can hear our pleas, our prayers and know

(16:11):
what it is that we need. And I tell people,
I said, you know, there really is no death. We
never really die, it's just graduation. We ride around in
these bodies the way we ride around in our cars.
These bodies are just a vehicle to negotiate this physical plane.
And then when we cross over, when our body has

(16:32):
worn out or we're taken by accident or disease, then
we cross over to an evaluation center to find out
what it is we did wrong, what we could have
done better, how we treated people. We don't really know
what's on the other side, and we don't really know
the medium that separates us as an avail a vibration

(16:54):
of frequency. You know, we don't really know. We'll all
find out eventually, but the fact that we have open
communication with that spiritual realm is comforting to know that
we're not alone and that we have hope for the future.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Sure, yeah, it I don't think it's actually like a
realm beside ours, but more as like mixed into ours,
all encompassing within everything, and everything kind of like radio waves.
We're aware that radio waves are kind of like swimming

(17:33):
in them all the time. We can't see them, we
can't feel them, we can't really interact with them. We
do have devices to measure them, but it's kind of
the same, you know. And then we have all sorts
of waves, honestly, so you got like the four G
five G Internet Wi Fi. You know, we're just adding
waves all the time with our technology. So it's only

(17:54):
a matter of time that we can develop a technology
that can detect these things. And we may already have
it and we just don't even realize that that's what
we're detecting. So, you know, proof is kind of subjective.
But yes, we've been told to have faith. But having

(18:17):
faith does prove itself if you follow it.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
That's true. That's true. Now, whether like I said, it
could be a frequency, it could even be another dimension,
but we are so close to it that it's a
two way communication that they can communicate with us in
real time, in real time. My mother was working around

(18:44):
the kitchen one day and these words started to come
into her mind. She knew it was incoming. She wasn't
sure if she really wanted to put these messages and
teachings in a book. She'd been praying about it, and
I actually was not able to do the book and
hook up with a publisher until she had passed away.
But she received this message. She knew it was incoming.
She picked up pen and paper. She had beautiful handwriting,

(19:08):
and this was a message that she received in thought.
May I share this with you and your audience?

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Emptiness is part of fulfillment. Let your resources fill the
void left so that distinction of your purpose can be found.
Expression is always self explanatory. Therefore, look inside and anchor
all your beliefs beside those still waters that will take
away your troubled view, and renew your strength to recapture

(19:36):
that which was lost but is now found to be
adequate to pursue the course set before you. And as
you reconcile your being to represent those qualities that have
been left intact, God will see to it that all
those circumstances have been trying to say the least, your
weariness will disappear as clouds, once removed, allow the sun

(19:58):
to shine, to dispel the glue and darkness that has
pervaded your countenance and has once described before. A token
of this presence will be deposited to your account and
books recorded in his name.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Nice sounds like oracle cards.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
It does, it does, but I mean these are direct
messages from spirit teachers from the other side, and we
each have our own. Now, people just starting out like this,
you know, communicating asking Like I said, you can receive
in thought, you can write it down, take notes. Not

(20:41):
everyone is going to necessarily receive information that deep. It
just depends on your level of progression and spiritual maturity,
I guess would be the best way to describe it.
But the information is available to all of us now.
When the two spirit teachers moved in in that session,

(21:02):
the first spirit teacher moved out, a second spirit teacher
moved in dictated a page and a half long message,
but the last paragraph was the one these spirit teachers
in these messages, they will either end the message with
a defining last sentence or a really deep, profound last paragraph.

(21:23):
And this second teacher's message last paragraph, may I share
this with you and your audience. So this was the
second teacher that moved in. You are not as sheep
herded here and there, but you are likened into the
lamb that has cared for individually, nourished and loved until
the full and total development allows it to be master

(21:43):
of itself. So is man so kept and denied only
those things that would not, in the long run nourish
his spirit. God is all wise and loving in his dispensations.
We are not to judge the workings of our Father,
nor are we to judge each other. Work always to
improve your own beings, For in the end time there

(22:06):
lies your soul with all the nourishment that you have
given it, totally dependent upon the outcome of your intentions.
And that message was signed your loving spiritual teacher. There
will be an end time when we cross over.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Sure, nothing's permanent. The only thing I agree, the only
constant is change. And you know we've been getting messages
similar to these for I guess thousands of years. Considering
if you, if you just start with the Bible, even
though there's older texts like that that also tell us

(22:48):
things like this, it's just taken us a ridiculously long
time to stop being stubborn and bullheaded and start listening
and figuring it out. And you know, maybe a lot
of the problem historically has been that though teachings and
the words aren't in layman's terms, and so you know,

(23:12):
there until very recently, entire there's still tons of people
in the world who are illiterate and their only form
of understanding communication and words is through their own small
town vernacular, and that's possibly made it very difficult for

(23:37):
people to grasp fully grasp the understandings of what they're
trying to speak to us.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
I agree, I agree. And if people with a foundation
of faith, they read the Bible, and throughout the Bible,
spirit teachers angels spoke to the various authors of the
various books of the Bible, throughout the Old Testament and
the New Testament, and then did suddenly did they stop
talking or did we stop listening? And you know, people

(24:07):
with the foundation of faith, they've been told, you know,
beware of the spirits, you know, don't communicate with the
other side. And some people get confused about spirits and
spirit teachers, these are not spirits. They're not spirits floating
around from the other side or on this side. These
are celestial beings from the spiritual realm. They are spiritual teachers,

(24:31):
which are angels, the exact same thing as angels, just
viewed from a different perspective, and the Bible says test
the spirit. We can do the same thing with these
spirit teachers. We have decisions to make, we have things
to deal with. We communicate with these spirit teachers and
allow their advice, guidance, and direction to be made known

(24:53):
to our mind. Now that doesn't mean you won't still
have car problems or problems with families. We all have
things that we have to deal with on a daily basis.
But it's just such a comfort to know and being
able to read what someone else has received and allow
that information to feel like it's pertinent to what you're
going through and say, I can deal with this, I

(25:15):
can handle this, I'm not alone.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah, just finding the tools to be able to navigate
life is what all of us need for sure.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
And life is a journey. We're all on a path,
and what you do and what I do on this
journey is we're shining a light on the path. It's
like we've come into information that we know is available
and we're sharing it with people who could use the help,
really need the help. And you just you know, like
if you're in the darkness and you shine a light

(25:49):
on the path and say here, take a look at
this step, go here. But then people make decisions on
their own, ignoring the advice, guidance and direction from their
own spirit teachers or angels, and they go off on tangents.
Sometimes they find themselves so far off on a tangent, like, well,
how do I get back on my path? How did

(26:09):
I get so far away from where I should be?
And information like this is helpful to direct people back
on a path.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Sure, sure, there's lots of information out there that's helpful
to direct people back on paths. It's just and when
you really get into analyzing all of the different informational paths,
they're pretty well all the same. You know. Treat others
with kindness, no judging, take care of yourself, take care

(26:41):
of those around you, gratitude, acceptance, community generosity. There's lots
of different things, I think people touching on a point
you mentioned earlier, though, of communing with spirits, people are
very afraid to do that. People are afraid of their

(27:04):
own thoughts because they're concerned that the devil's trying to
get in and direct them, and they don't have the
will power. And I teach meditation, and I've had I
teach yoga and meditation, and I routinely have people locally
attack me in Facebook groups, in local Facebook groups about

(27:25):
yoga and meditation being devil work and how people of
Christian faith should not go anywhere near it.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Why would I can't understand that at all. I mean,
that doesn't really make any sense.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Well, you just have to understand the divide between where
people's mentality are is versus you know, because you have
to go through the knowledge of understanding to be able
to get to the like the understanding part, you have
to go through the knowledge part. But they've been so
conditioned to be aware of the devil in any of

(28:02):
their false teachings that anything that may look like a
false prophet, they just throw walls up. You just have
to understand, like human psychology and especially like trauma, religious
trauma is a very big thing that people have to
overcome in order to open their minds to these types

(28:22):
of things.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
I agree, and I mean it's their loss. It's their
loss by being so rigid in their religious belief that
they're not open to spiritual material that does not conflict
with anything that they've been taught, other than the possibility
of a final place, either heaven or Hell, that we

(28:44):
go for all eternity with no chance for reprieve. I
had a lady that I knew who had a son
that was constantly getting into trouble, constantly from the time
he was fourteen till the time he was in his
mid thirties. The money that they spent on attorneys and
fines and bail and counselors, I mean, it was just

(29:06):
a real shame. And this lady was Baptist, strict foundation
of faith, you know, daily reader of her Bible, and
she knew the information that I was involved in. And
I had always, I have, you know, for the longest time,
questioned heaven and hell that we go to for all eternity.
And I asked her one time, I said, is there

(29:27):
anything that your son could do, anything at all, that
would cause you not to want to give him another chance?
And she just put her head down and said no.
And I said, what makes you think God loves us
any less? Do you really believe that God is going
to sentence us to eternal punishment and damnation with no
chance for a reprieve, no chance for a doover because

(29:49):
we were stupid, because we made bad choices and decisions,
chose bad friends, had bad parents. Or do you think
it's possible that we are given another chance, that this
is not just a one shot blink of an eye existence,
no matter how many years that we live. And if
you're open to that, then you're open to reincarnation.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, and there I recommend actually two movies that I'll
share with your audience, two movies that I think will well,
just you know, watch these with an open mind. I
don't know if you've ever seen them before. The first
one is called Defending Your Life, Defending Your Life, and

(30:36):
that has Albert Brooks and Meryl Streep in it, Okay,
we love her. And the second one is called Always,
and that has Richard Dreyfus and Holly Hunter in it.
I'll actually share a third one with you. That's that's cerebral.
It's a think piece and it's called The Last Mimsy.

(30:59):
M Imz Why And since you have children, your children
will love that movie.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, I think I've actually heard of that one.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
You have heard of it? Yeah, it's a movie about
these two kids that find what they think, or a
box of toys on a beach. They turn out to
be artifacts sent back from the future by a scientist.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
But this girl, this girl that's in there, her name
is Emma. In the movie, you talk about someone who
is way above her age and intelligence. And at the
beginning of the movie, this teacher has a class of
students out in a field. There's a lot of flowers
and stuff around, and she talks to the class and
she says, gather around. She said, I want to show

(31:41):
you a story. So then she then has the students
all tune in drop down in level and she proceeds
to show this story to her class telepathically.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Are you familiar with the telepathy tapes?

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Empathy tapes? No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
They've done research that has proven telepathy in autistic children
and their caregivers.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Are they more receptive to The theory is information.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Most of these autistic children are nonverbal, non community so
the thought, the theory is that we all have this ability.
It's just that they're stuck essentially, because a lot of
people there's this misconception about autistic kids and that they're

(32:42):
their IQ is much lower than regular people. But that's
not necessarily the case. It's just that their nervous system
and their body doesn't work properly, so more or less
they're trapped within their own body and within their own mind.
So there they just spend more time in their mental
realm than we do, who are able to navigate our

(33:05):
physical world a little bit easier, a little bit better.
So they've developed this ability, whereas kind of like a
muscle atrophies if you don't use it, most of us
have this, you know, essentially atrophied muscle, but practicing it,
working at it, exercising it, which is what you've touched on.

(33:26):
You know, we're all capable of doing these things, and
so they have the it's just stronger in them. But
they've proven this that they've had their caregivers be in
like separate rooms and stuff, and they've been able to
do tests right.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Well. I believe that that ability is it's an innate ability,
an ability that we're born with. And the more that
you practice, the more that you listen, the more that
you pay attention, you're not required to obey. But if
you have the opportunity where a choice, you're at a

(34:08):
crossroads and you need to make a choice, and you
can either pray or you can just reach out to
your spirit teacher, whatever you're comfortable with. People with a
foundation of faith should not be afraid of being receptive
to spirit teachers. Again, angels, just think angels and we
all have our own. When I do a number of

(34:32):
these interviews and they will ask, the host will say, well,
your grandmother received sermons dictated her mind. Your mother received
They said, do you receive? And I said yes. I said,
I'm spoken to pretty much on a regular basis. And
when I was first looking for a publisher, I was
on a number of different publisher websites. One of the

(34:54):
websites asked questions about your work. One of the questions
was what makes your be unique? Why would anyone want
to read this great question? And I was sitting where
I'm sitting right now at my computer. I didn't really
even ask for an answer. I just relaxed my mind
and an answer was started to be dictated to my mind.
It was twelve lines long. May I share this answer

(35:17):
with you and your audience? Okay, So the question was
what makes your material unique? And this is the answer
that I was given. The uniqueness of any material is
in the manner in which it touches the soul. An
open and searching mind pulls the soul and the body
in which it inhabits onward and upward with hunger and

(35:38):
determination in its quest for spiritual nourishment. Ever mindful that
the path upon which we walk is the path toward God. Lives, lived, experiences, endured,
goals accomplished, and loved ones lost are all encounters upon
that path. Strive always for the highest possible communication with

(35:58):
our heavenly Father. Believe in yourself as the Father within
you is guiding, leading, directing, and comforting you upon this
journey that we call life. Blessings be upon you as
you walk your chosen pathway that was not me. I
take no credit for that whatsoever, but I thank them

(36:22):
for the information.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Sure are you familiar with Dolores Canon? Doris who Dolores Canon?
I am not, Okay. She was a hypnotist who wrote
several books, at least six, probably like nine or ten,
but they're all where she put people in a hypnotized

(36:49):
state and they explored various things, so various things of
the world, the realm, the universe, the other side, the spirit,
the spirit world, Back in time, forward, in time, lots
of lots of cool stuff and all of that. Nostrodamus
was had his he had like three books between her

(37:13):
and him, just him where she claimed to being communication
with him, not from the spirit realm, but from his
point and time in space. Because you know, time is
illusion and thing like. It's not actually linear like we

(37:34):
perceive it to be. It's everything happening all at once.
It's just we're kind of stuck in this linear perception
of it. So there's been other cases where people have
been able to communicate with supposedly communicate with people who
are not so in our day and time and point

(37:59):
on the time line. Yes, they'd be considered dead, but
they're communicating from their space and time where they say
they are not dead. They are actually living their life
and it's a point in time in their life. So
it's all overlapping and coinciding. Right, Well, there is no death, right,

(38:20):
it's all there is connected.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
And what you're talking about is similar to what Edgar
Casey did. Are you familiar with Edgar Casey?

Speaker 1 (38:27):
I've heard the name.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah. He actually lived in Ohio and Dayton, Ohio for
a year and a half. Edgar Casey was amazing. And
on my website spirit speaks dot com, there is a
tab at the top forat it's a great links tab
and it's a link to two books that I recommend
they should get mine first. An angel told me so.

(38:49):
But there's a book by Sidney Kirkpatrick and it's just
called Edgar Casey an American prophet. And Edgar Casey was
born in Hopkinsville, Kentucky. It's about an hour and fifteen
minutes west of Mammoth Cave. Brought up Baptist, extremely religious,
but when he was nineteen years old, he was working

(39:10):
in a photography studio in Hopkinsville. No one had cameras
back then, so if you wanted a family portrait, wedding, graduation, newborn,
you went to a studio, had a picture taken, and
then for twenty five or thirty cents you could get
a print. Casey we're talking the late eighteen hundreds. I
think he was born in eighteen seventy seven, so this

(39:30):
would have been the late eighteen hundreds when he was
working in this studio, and I really I don't remember
what the situation was, but a friend of his put
him under hypnosis, and when he went under he started
speaking as this source, this high source that had knowledge
of anatomy and medical knowledge that Casey did not have

(39:51):
in his waking state. And it was so detailed and
so specific. They brought in a stenographer to start taking
down everything that he said. And he could see into
people's bodies like an X ray machine, and they didn't
have to be in the same room or the same town.
And he lived a lot of different places, Virginia Beach

(40:13):
or some Alabama, Texas, Dayton, Ohio, and he eventually settled
in Virginia Beach. Some money people he founded a hospital
that would treat people based on these readings, and they
had the hospital went under because he wouldn't charge enough
for his gift to keep the hospital Afloat the grounds

(40:36):
of that hospital, they've built the are Association of Research
and Enlightenment. It's in Virginia Beach. They have a library
there with over forty thousand medical readings that Casey got
in his lifetime.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Didn't he end up like saving a bunch of babies
that would have otherwise died for some reason or another.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah, And his the information that he received on area's
treatments was a little unorthodox. He had one lady that
had an she was suffering from an iodine deficiency and
he had gone under, and they were told to tape
a fresh fish to her back and leave the fish

(41:16):
taped to her back for three or four days, and
the iodine from the fish leached into her body and
cleared up her problem.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
No, doctor, I didn't have a rotting fish taped to
your back for three or four days.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Well, you know, I don't know what rotting it was doing,
but I'm sure they had air freshener or open windows.
But still, you know, if if the doctors are at
a loss on how to treat you and what to do,
it was an amazing it's an amazing account. And he
was he was really good. But yeah, people, however, they

(41:52):
tune in whatever action that they take, you know, believing
that it's possible, establishing that filter of protection so that
there's nothing to be afraid of. And even the belief
they say that if if you believe in negative entities,
if you believe in evil, if you personify that into

(42:15):
a belief in Lucifer or the devil, that belief is
what empowers that negative entity to have possible effect over you. Exactly,
your your your belief is is what empower is what
creates that entity? Yes, and if you know that that
entity does not exist or has been defeated, then there

(42:39):
is no negative power that can have any effect on
you because you're protected absolutely and your spirit teachers will
help that.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Are you familiar with that? Are you familiar with the
concept of cidhies of what please hes s I d.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
H I s I've not heard the word before.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
It's a it's a Yogi term. Cities are spiritual gifts essentially,
kind of like what we're talking about. And there's I
don't remember exactly how many, there's like seventy five common ones,
and then there's others also not so common. But there

(43:23):
there're stuff like this telepathy and healing and seeing and
hearing things that aren't there, smelling things that aren't there.
There's the list goes on and on and on and
on and on. But have you ever have you? Are
you familiar with the book Autobiography of a Yogi? I
am not okay. I think you would love this. Love

(43:45):
this book. It's written as an autobiography and of this
Yogi who lived in India in the eighteen hundreds into
the nineteen hundreds, So he didn't die until I think
that nineteen forties something like, so it was fairly recent,
and we have documentation of him and most of who

(44:10):
he talks about in the book really being people who
existed and were the people that he says were they
were in these books. But he has fantastical accounts where
even though it's written as an autobiography and we have
the documents and the proof to back up the people
and the events and all of the things, it reads

(44:34):
like a fantastical fiction film, like where he's traveling around
with other yogis and so. And let me specify that
we're speaking about yogi's, not in the sense of the
modern term of yogi, like I'm a yogi, but I'm
not trying to learn how to float or teleport. But

(44:54):
these were these were yogi's that were dedicated monks essentially,
so lived in groups of their own and just meditated
all day every day. And as he was traveling around
meeting other yogis, he was able to meet yogis who
had these cities and could teleport and float and heal

(45:20):
and speak telepathically and a great across great distances. And
it's just a wonderful, very intriguing book that leaves your
brain absolutely blasted open because again, like it reads, it's
an autobiography right by all of these fantastical claims.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Well, the nice thing about information like that is it's
applicable to everyone that reads it, just like the material
these messages and teachings. It's like you're being spoken to
as you read these messages. And I think all of
the abilities that you spoke about, telepathy, you know, any
information that's made known to our mind, I believe those

(46:03):
are all natural and neate abilities that we're all given,
and it's up to us to develop those or at
least not lock them out because we're afraid that it
might be negative somehow, or that it might invite a
negative entity into our mind. And there is no evil,

(46:24):
there is no negativity if you establish that filter of protection.
I mean, that's the biggest thing that people need to do.
The most helpful thing that they can do is to
realize that they have the power the ability to establish
a filter of protection to control their thoughts. Your thought

(46:46):
system is your own, and any thought that you think
that you don't agree with, you can just discard, just
get rid of it and By establishing that filter, any
thought that comes into your mind, that's incoming that is
beneficial to you, you can just incorporate into your thought system.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Mm hmm. Yeah. And people want to be to They
want to make it harder than it is. They don't
think it should be easy. So there is surely I'm
not doing it right, but so they want all of
the They want you to give them a twenty bullet
points of how to and it doesn't have to be
that hard. You really just have to intend that you're

(47:30):
protected and that nothing is going to hurt you and
all of it. Would you like to take over from herdon?
Would you like to take over? Tell people how?

Speaker 2 (47:40):
No? Yeah, you're fine. I agree with you. I was
just agreeing with everything that you said.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Sure. I was just going to let you have your
own spin on it all because there's a thousand ways
you can do it. And that's the beautiful thing is
that you can make it your own.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Well, that's true, that's true reading reading information where somebody
has already gone before you, like the yoga that you
talked about, or these messages and teachings that seem to
be so personal. And an angel told me, so I
have I'm just connecting with the new publisher. I'm going

(48:13):
to do a revised edition of volume one, and then
I've got volume two in volume three to publish. And
like I said, as these messages in teaching continued higher teachers,
it's like they started spreading the word on the other side,
like look at the willing receptacle that we have found

(48:33):
in Wilma Gene. And these messages and teachings became deeper
and more profound, longer, and one of the messages, I'm
pretty sure it's in volume three. Like I said, these
spirit teachers repeatedly refer to themselves as first person. We feel,
we believe, we advise our us on rare occasions, and

(48:55):
I will make himself known, like that teacher that said,
there are others here who whish to make themselves known
to you, So I will step aside at this time.
And in volume three, there was a message she had
received a full page single space typed and halfway through
the second page she stopped and she said, she asked

(49:18):
her own question and typed it. She said, who are
the I and the Wii? Who is the I and
the Wii that is presenting this information? And they congratulated
her for asking the question and then gave a three
paragraph answer that was really long and deep, more than
I would care to share right now, you know, in

(49:40):
this conversation because we're you know, running a little low
on time here, but it's an amazing answer that they
identified themselves, talked about who they were, what their mission was,
and thanked her for asking and asking for clarification is
to who these spirit teachers really were. So for anyone

(50:03):
who's interested in either finding their own spirit teachers and
being able to develop this connection which we all have
that we're all born with, or use your foundation of
faith to protect your mind and then ask to be
able to connect with your own spirit teachers because they

(50:25):
are available as close as our heartbeat.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Yeah, you know. Are A great way to close this
is to mention that Jesus said that we were capable
of all of the things he was capable of.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
As greater works as I do, even greater work shall
she shall ye also do? Now, why would the divine
Son of God say that to mortal men? You know,
if we are if we have that same ability, if
we have that same not really power, but connection, then

(51:04):
why do people you know, why does organized religion teach
that we are so separate and that when we cross
over that we for all eternity, we go to the
good place or the bad place. And I've always questioned,
what are you going to do in heaven if there's
no choices to be made, no path to walk, if

(51:27):
everything is taken care of for you and you have
nothing to worry about. Wouldn't that make an individual soul
pretty stagnant? I mean, if you were on a path,
you're going to like that movie Defending Your Life. You're
going to like that. And again, are we really going
to be sentenced to eternal punishment with no chance for

(51:48):
reprieve for a do over? I mean, look at the
children born to Bill Gates and Steven Spielberg or any
wealthy family. They'll want for nothing. Granted, they'll have their challenges,
but that kind of wealth connection makes all the difference
in the world. And that you've got children born to
alcoholic fathers, drug addicted mothers, poverty. I mean, you could

(52:08):
be born in China, North Korea, Iran, Russia, and what
is it that decides what set of parents that were
born to and what location on this planet that were
born in? Is it just luck of the draw? Is
it just random? Did Bill Gates and Steven Spielberg's kids
win the lottery and we didn't? Or are we assigned

(52:32):
to a certain set of parents and a certain social
station for whatever it is we're supposed to learn in
this lifetime? And I believe that we are assigned.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Yeah, So the judgment that we incure at death is
potentially what is your next life going to be like?

Speaker 2 (52:53):
And is it really judgment or is it more of
an evaluation?

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Yeah? Yeah, though if we're.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Really judged, I think it's more of an evaluation and
to be able to look back, and that's really what
that movie Defending Your Life is all about. I'd like
to get a response once you get a chance to
take a look at it or your audience. Also, I
have a contact page on my website spirit speaks dot com,

(53:20):
and if any of your listeners would want to contact me,
I would be happy to share additional information from volume
two of the book and that message that I received awesome.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Yeah, all right, and tell them again. Spirit speaks dot
com is your website, correct, and they can get the
book there.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
The book is available on the website. The book is
available through Barnes and Noble. It's in Barnes and Nobles system.
Ingram is my national distributor. Any bookstore in the country
can order. They all deal with Ingram. They can get
the book and it's also on Amazon.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Cool, awesome, and we'll make sure that we link all
of that down low so they don't have to go
search into hard Thank.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
You, Savannah, I really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Yeah, thank you for being here today.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Thank you. I hope that we can get together again
sometime and talk about this.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Yeah, I'd love to see how things develop for you.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Thank you, thank you.
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