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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, so cleavers, and go what do I don't
even know? I need to google a picture of cleavers
because that's how badly unprepared I am. What does that
even look like?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's got like these five I think it's five leaves
that kind of they call them whirls. But I can't
even explain what it looks like. When you google a
picture and see it, I'll know you'll you'll know it
when you see it.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, yeah, I see it is interesting. It's like, uh, yeah,
how do you explain? It's like leveled. It's like a
tower with levels. All the leaves grow together and then
it's like a straight stick and then another level. Anyway,
just google it people.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, and uh, it's very It's like velcrow. That's why
they call it cleavers because it will eve to you,
so it sticks to your clothes and stuff. So I
was saying before we started recording that it's not my
favorite herb, just because just because of that, the VELCROI
feeling it just it irritates me and I couldn't imagine
(01:15):
putting it in my mouth to eat it.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
So if society collapses, now we know, yes, if society collapsed,
I know that I could eat it and not starve.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
So and it's one that is best used fresh, so
you know, cooking it would destroy its properties, so it
wouldn't like most of the things like stinging nettle if
it's dried or cooked. I don't want to get off
on that, but because we'll do that one later. But
(01:52):
it gets rid of the pokey prickly stuff. But the cleavers,
since it's best used fresh, the pokey prickles are still there,
and I couldn't just the thought of putting that in
my mouth is just no. So but it does have
before I sit here and spend this five minutes dog
(02:13):
in cleavers it it doesn't have its uses. We could
eat it if there was no other food. So horse,
you can make tea with a fresh herb, so again
you know, about three tablespoons to eight ounces of water.
(02:35):
Or you can take the fresh herb and chop it
up and put it in a jar and cover it
either with vinegar or vodka eighty proof for hire and
make a tincture. And that way you could preserve it
to use its medicinal properties longer than just you know,
(02:55):
spring time. But it is good for urinary tract bladder infections.
Stuff like that. Uh said to be helpful for fertility.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
And people is to make you more fertile, right, yes, yes,
some people are like you know the benefit it could
go either way, you know, some people are helpful with fertility,
like not being fertile is it is? What's helpful?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Ah Okay, so kind of like a joke on my end.
Don't use it for birth control. It might have the opposite,
It might have the opposite effects.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Good to know, good to know.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yes, and it can be helpful with seriosis and eczema.
So again, like skin poultices are poultices for skin inflammation
is always good and I'm sure that if you drink
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it internally, you know, it would help you know, work
through your body systems to help clear and support the
healing of cerasis and eximunt as well.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
It says here that it's good for the lymphatic system,
which is the lymphatic system is the our detox system,
so it would be detoxing. Then it's a diuretic, which
for some people don't know. Diuretic means it increases your inflow.
(04:47):
And then yeah, you're an airy track health just in general.
But it's it's two different points over here on this.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, a lot of the herbs are all of the
herbs that we're talking about today are all things that
are popping up in the springtime. And like traditionally people
have always kind of thought like the herbs that emerge
in the spring are helpful for you know, like after
(05:16):
the long winters and you've been eating you know, kind
of carb heavy meals and you just your health is
not as good in the wintertime. You know, a lot
more colds and stuff going around. So like you had said,
with the lymphatic system, it just helps get everything cleared
out and all of that stuff. So I think that
it probably has its benefits, you know, coming out of
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winter and clearing everything.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, that's something I talk about a lot with eating
seasonally and I being in tune in touch with what's
growing in your area seasonally, because mine, in your seasonal
eating here in North Alabama is going to be different
than people in Washington State seasonal eating, you know, or
(06:07):
India or Japan. You know, like it's gonna be different
wherever you are in the world. So we can we
can kind of give people stuff to go off of
in our area, but we don't really know. Sorry, you're
gonna have to find somebody local to help you with
your area. But it really is just as simple at
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quote unquote simple as going outside in your yard and
seeing what's growing right now. But it's a it's a
whole rabbit hole of an area of study, for sure.
You know, I've been studying all of these things, all
like herbs and local weeds essentially and what you can
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eat for probably ten years, and I don't have jack
hit on the knowledge that you hold in your brain.
How long have you been.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Doing this, gosh for like twenty probably twenty years or more.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, I'd say about.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Twenty years, so you know, and you make it always, huh.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
You make it sound simple and easy. You're like, yeah,
you just mix this with that, you know, three tablespoons stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
So one thing that I've always I've heard a lot
lately and I'm not even sure where I keep hearing
it from different sources, but I keep hearing it simple
does not mean easy always. So yeah, I make it
sound simple, but that doesn't mean that it's easy.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, I was talking last night in yoga
class about how because we cover a lot of every
single class, like if you come to five or more
of my classes. You could almost take over leading the
class if I didn't want to do it that day,
because it's always this. It's more or less the same
(08:04):
basic poses with just a couple of variations mixed in
to keep us not bored. And I was talking about
how I'm like, sorry, not sorry, if you're bored. People
are always looking for the the secret, the magic pill,
(08:24):
like give me the good stuff, what's the what's the
secrets that the masters know? And there is no secrets, Like,
no matter what you're looking to be successful in, Uh,
it's just fundamentals. You just learn the fundamentals, the bear
basic bones of and then everything builds on top of that.
(08:46):
And it's hard at first because you're basically having to
learn a new language, like or bology. I guess is
what we're doing here. It's a it's a language, it's
a whole different area of study. But once you get
the basics down, everything kind of starts. You start seeing
the patterns and things become easier.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
So moving back to cleavers, it says it's great for livestock.
It's a good edible for livestock, so that's good. It
can help Oh oh oh no, sorry, sorry. Important considerations
is that some people may be allergic to cleavers, so
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if you experience any adverse reaction, discontinue use. It says,
of course, always consult a healthcare professional before using cleavers,
no matter what. Okay, this specifically says if you're pregnant
or breastfeeding, but just you know, no matter what, do
your own research and don't take our infra mation. Uh,
(10:01):
this is just fun for us. This is this is
mostly me trying to pick my friend's brain and learn myself.
So this is my class that I roped her into
and uh, making available to you guys. So all parts
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of the plant? Yes, so well, I don't think they have. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
The roots are just like kind of little hairy things.
They're not substantial enough to really want to eat.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, unlike wild violets like we were we were talking
after we stopped recording that what a bummer it is
that we can't eat wild violet roots because they're like
mini potato sized. They're very large, Yeah, very meaty they are.
Is it? Do it?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I said they would prevent famine?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, yeah for sure. Uh yeah, that's about all I
have over here. It says you can cleavers can be
juiced and consumed as a tonic.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Maybe that could be a way that I could eat cleavers,
because I'm not chewing them.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
It's as they have a mild, slightly bitter flavor.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I would probably like if you mixed it in with
other juices like fruit and stuff like that and just
kind of put a little bit of cleavers in there
for some some benefits.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah. Yeah, that's my favorite way to get things. It's just, uh,
you can always tell, like a secret, one of my secrets.
If you serve me a meal. Say I'm at somebody's
house and they cooked all this food. I put all
the food on my plate. You can tell what I
don't like because I'm mixing it with other things. If
I like it, I'll eat it by itself. But if
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I don't like it, I'll mix it with everything I
can to try to like get it down. So really, yeah,
that's that's one of my favorite things to do, like
to get things medicinally into my system is mix it
with other things. Uh, but can be eaten raw or
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cooked like spinach, And yeah, that's always This is a
good point. Always make sure that you're harvesting your herbs
from areas free of pesticides and pollutants.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yes, definitely, Like don't get it off the side of
the road where cars have drove by and leaked fluids
and all of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
And yeah, driveways. I try to only harvest herbs out
of my front yard because I have dogs and stuff
in the backyard. So yeah, you got to really think
about things like that. And then like my my front
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garden bed, the cats like to use the bathroom in that.
Because our cats are indoor outdoor, we don't do we
don't do litter boxes, so they hang out in the house,
just like the dogs do you know, they use the
bathroom outside and then they come inside just to like
hang out and stuff. So you want to be really
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mindful of that. So if you have animals in the area,
whether they're yours or strays or whatever, it's not a
bad idea too. If you want to use some of
these medicinal herbs that you have pots for them. Pots
are pots are good? Yes, definitely off the ground so
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that they're extra protected and whatnot. So yeah, I don't
have any thing else. Do you have anything else? Dad
about clevers? I don't all right, if you like them,
let us know because we don't. Actually, I don't have
an opinion.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
They may taste wonderful, but I just it's like, you
know how when your hands are dry and you touch
a microfibertail, that's that's cleavers for me.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I don't know. It says that they're bitter, so well,
you know, some people like bitterness. But also I'm a
big believer in you know, it's medicine not food, but
you know, food is medicine or whatever. But we're not
eating it because we enjoy it. We're eating it because
we want the cleansing, uh detoxing benefits.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, sometimes it's good for us whether we like it
or not.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah that so, yeah, all right, moving on to the
next one.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yes,