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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back with me now is Democratic lawmaker from California,
Congressman Ted lu He is the vice chair of the
House Democratic Caucus. And I know you flipped your schedule
around to be with us to be able to give
us your insights, So thank you for that. To start off,
what was your reaction when you saw the video and
heard what happened to Senator Padi at that news conference
(00:20):
with Secretary Nome?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Thank you, Kelly for your question. House Democrats have been
standing up and fighting back against the lawless actions of
ICE in detaining US citizens, deporting children, some of whom
are US citizens, and stripping asylum seekers. We are here
legally seeking asylum of their rights. And now they escalated
by forcibly taking down Senator Padilla. Why because he dared
(00:47):
to ask questions of Secretary Nome? Why is Secretary Gnome
afraid to answer your questions?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Let me give you a little bit of the response
from a spokesperson for Secretary Nome about this episode, and
the statement goes like this. It says, Senator Padilla shows
disrespectful political theater and interrupted a live press conference without
identifying himself or having his Senate Security pin on his
lapel as he lunged toward Secretary. No, mister Padilla was
(01:15):
told repeatedly to back away, and he did not comply
with officers repeated commands. The Secret Service thought he was
an attacker, and officers acted appropriately. So what is your
response to this? We all saw it play out. He
was not in the student tie we would see around
Capitol Hill. I did not see the pin which you
have the pin on your lapel there there's a different
one for senators. But he did say I'm Senator Padilla.
(01:38):
What is your reaction to how they've characterized it.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
DHS spokesperson is lying, and that should not be surprising
because that Trump administration lies all the time. This incident
happened in the federal building AMI district. To get into
that federal building, there's immense security and you go through
all sorts of security checks. So people who are in
that room have already been checked by security. And as
(02:04):
you noted, Senator Padilla identified himself. And if American people
are watching this and are upset, I urge you to
righteously exercise your right to peacely protest, righteously exercise your
right to monitor ICE agents who are hiding behind masks
and righteously exercise your right to freedom of speech and
(02:25):
freedom to assemble. That's how we take our country back.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
We understand that Senator Padia and Secretary Nome did have
an opportunity to speak behind the scenes. I haven't heard
exactly what that conversation has been about. Do you hold
her responsible or do you think these officers were sort
of engaged and once they began to detain someone, they
just kept going. You know, we don't really know what
was in their minds. And if they recognize Senator Padia,
(02:51):
even though he is the senior senator from California, we
don't know if they are from California. What is your
sense of who should be accountable for this moment?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Donald Trump and the Republicans that enabled him directly responsible
for creating a culture of fear, for separating children from
their parents, for making America not America anymore because of
their lawless actions they've engaged in. And I want to
note that the American people rising up in PS three
protesting is working today. Donald Trump posted on social media
(03:24):
that he's reversing part of his mass deportation policies against
the agriculture industry as well. As the leisure hospitality industry.
And so what the American people were doing and standing
up and making our voices heard is working. Donald Trump
is backtracking. Trump again is checking out.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I want to read a little bit of what Secretary
Known was saying at the time that this incident happened.
She had been speaking for a few moments, and she
said that we're here, staying behind here to liberate this
city from the socialist and the burdensome leadership that this
governor and that this mayor referring to Newsom and Bass
(04:04):
have placed on this country and try to insert into
that city. So when she uses the word liberate, and
these are of course democratically elected officials in one of
the largest states we have, she uses the word liberate,
How did that strike you? Do you think that might
have prompted Senator Padilla to interrupt?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Secretary Nome is living in a fantasy world. California, under
your leadership of Gavin Newsom and mayors like Mayor Bass,
we are now the fourth largest economy in the world.
And what we see in California is a thriving economy,
and we have lots of people from all different places
(04:43):
in the world making the state a great state, and
Secretary Nome couldn't deal with answering questions with Secretary Padilla
and DHS forcibly assaulted him and took him down. That's
completely unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Before I let you go, I realize you're in DC.
You're not on the ground in California to assess what's
happening right this minute. But what are you hearing from
your district office about how you would characterize the protests
that are happening now we're several days into it.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
The people who are protesting peacefully are doing what they
can under the US constitution. They're actually allowed to do
that looting, bernie cars, destroying property or crimes, and if
you engage in that, you will be prosecuted. Now, I
want to note, all these peaceful protests in LA and
across the country are working. Donald Trump, based on you
(05:30):
associated press both today is at sixty percent disapproval. What
Donald Trump is doing is not popular. And make sure
that people go out in peace three protests. That is
how we take our country back.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Do you think the curfew has helped to turn the
temperature down at all? Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
And I want to know this curfew is like for
like a one square mile area because most of la
the people are protesting peacefully, and I commend their bass
for what she's doing in this one square mile area.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Can make it better and allies a very sprawling city
in County. We know that over the next several days
there are other protests around the country that are being planned,
and certainly the incident with Senator Padilla may prompt others
to want to use their voices. What concerns, if any,
do you have about how this could continue in other
cities and might there be a loss of control.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I encourage people to exercise their First Amendment rights and
their freedom to assemble, and I just want to say
it is working. Donald Trump reversed part of his mass
deportation policies because they're unpopular because American people started rising
up peacefully. And I just want the American people to
understand that your actions and making your voice is heard
(06:44):
is having an effect and keep righteously doing what the
US Constitution grants you the right to do.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And Congressman, we talked about that change from the President
in an earlier segment before you were on, and we
were seem to get mixed messages. President clearly said changes
are coming. He acknowledged the hotel, hospitality, and farm community
businesses that have been affected. Actually said there's some very
good people who are working those I'm paraphrasing who are
working and have been disrupted by this. But also the
(07:12):
White House is saying that they're going to step up actions.
So we'll have to see how much this kind of backtrack,
if we can call it that from the President, how
that will play out. But clearly you want to highlight that. Well.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Obviously the White House has to listen to Donald Trump,
and he said very clear today that he's reversing part
of his deportation policy. And I think he's seeing not
only the American people rising up, but actually the harm
to our economy. Inflation has increased, jobless claims have increased,
food prices have increased zero point three percent at the
(07:46):
grocery store, and so Donald Trump understands his policies were
also harming our economy.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Sir, you're what we call an emergency booking. You responded
when we called when there was an incident, and I
thank you for that, for making time out of your
busy day. We appreciate, especially from your vantage point in California.
Thank you so much for being with us.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Thank you, Kelly, We thank you for watching, and remember
stay updated on breaking news and top stories on the
NBC News app, or watch live on our YouTube channel
Welcome back with me now is Democratic lawmaker from California,
Congressman Ted lu He is the vice chair of the
House Democratic Caucus. And I know you flipped your schedule
around to be with us to be able to give
us your insights, So thank you for that. To start off,
what was your reaction when you saw the video and
heard what happened to Senator Padi at that news conference
(00:20):
with Secretary Nome?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Thank you, Kelly for your question. House Democrats have been
standing up and fighting back against the lawless actions of
ICE in detaining US citizens, deporting children, some of whom
are US citizens, and stripping asylum seekers. We are here
legally seeking asylum of their rights. And now they escalated
by forcibly taking down Senator Padilla. Why because he dared
(00:47):
to ask questions of Secretary Nome? Why is Secretary Gnome
afraid to answer your questions?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Let me give you a little bit of the response
from a spokesperson for Secretary Nome about this episode, and
the statement goes like this. It says, Senator Padilla shows
disrespectful political theater and interrupted a live press conference without
identifying himself or having his Senate Security pin on his
lapel as he lunged toward Secretary. No, mister Padilla was
(01:15):
told repeatedly to back away, and he did not comply
with officers repeated commands. The Secret Service thought he was
an attacker, and officers acted appropriately. So what is your
response to this? We all saw it play out. He
was not in the student tie we would see around
Capitol Hill. I did not see the pin which you
have the pin on your lapel there there's a different
one for senators. But he did say I'm Senator Padilla.
(01:38):
What is your reaction to how they've characterized it.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
DHS spokesperson is lying, and that should not be surprising
because that Trump administration lies all the time. This incident
happened in the federal building AMI district. To get into
that federal building, there's immense security and you go through
all sorts of security checks. So people who are in
that room have already been checked by security. And as
(02:04):
you noted, Senator Padilla identified himself. And if American people
are watching this and are upset, I urge you to
righteously exercise your right to peacely protest, righteously exercise your
right to monitor ICE agents who are hiding behind masks
and righteously exercise your right to freedom of speech and
(02:25):
freedom to assemble. That's how we take our country back.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
We understand that Senator Padia and Secretary Nome did have
an opportunity to speak behind the scenes. I haven't heard
exactly what that conversation has been about. Do you hold
her responsible or do you think these officers were sort
of engaged and once they began to detain someone, they
just kept going. You know, we don't really know what
was in their minds. And if they recognize Senator Padia,
(02:51):
even though he is the senior senator from California, we
don't know if they are from California. What is your
sense of who should be accountable for this moment?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Donald Trump and the Republicans that enabled him directly responsible
for creating a culture of fear, for separating children from
their parents, for making America not America anymore because of
their lawless actions they've engaged in. And I want to
note that the American people rising up in PS three
protesting is working today. Donald Trump posted on social media
(03:24):
that he's reversing part of his mass deportation policies against
the agriculture industry as well. As the leisure hospitality industry.
And so what the American people were doing and standing
up and making our voices heard is working. Donald Trump
is backtracking. Trump again is checking out.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I want to read a little bit of what Secretary
Known was saying at the time that this incident happened.
She had been speaking for a few moments, and she
said that we're here, staying behind here to liberate this
city from the socialist and the burdensome leadership that this
governor and that this mayor referring to Newsom and Bass
(04:04):
have placed on this country and try to insert into
that city. So when she uses the word liberate, and
these are of course democratically elected officials in one of
the largest states we have, she uses the word liberate,
How did that strike you? Do you think that might
have prompted Senator Padilla to interrupt?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Secretary Nome is living in a fantasy world. California, under
your leadership of Gavin Newsom and mayors like Mayor Bass,
we are now the fourth largest economy in the world.
And what we see in California is a thriving economy,
and we have lots of people from all different places
(04:43):
in the world making the state a great state, and
Secretary Nome couldn't deal with answering questions with Secretary Padilla
and DHS forcibly assaulted him and took him down. That's
completely unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Before I let you go, I realize you're in DC.
You're not on the ground in California to assess what's
happening right this minute. But what are you hearing from
your district office about how you would characterize the protests
that are happening now we're several days into it.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
The people who are protesting peacefully are doing what they
can under the US constitution. They're actually allowed to do
that looting, bernie cars, destroying property or crimes, and if
you engage in that, you will be prosecuted. Now, I
want to note, all these peaceful protests in LA and
across the country are working. Donald Trump, based on you
(05:30):
associated press both today is at sixty percent disapproval. What
Donald Trump is doing is not popular. And make sure
that people go out in peace three protests. That is
how we take our country back.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Do you think the curfew has helped to turn the
temperature down at all? Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
And I want to know this curfew is like for
like a one square mile area because most of la
the people are protesting peacefully, and I commend their bass
for what she's doing in this one square mile area.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Can make it better and allies a very sprawling city
in County. We know that over the next several days
there are other protests around the country that are being planned,
and certainly the incident with Senator Padilla may prompt others
to want to use their voices. What concerns, if any,
do you have about how this could continue in other
cities and might there be a loss of control.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I encourage people to exercise their First Amendment rights and
their freedom to assemble, and I just want to say
it is working. Donald Trump reversed part of his mass
deportation policies because they're unpopular because American people started rising
up peacefully. And I just want the American people to
understand that your actions and making your voice is heard
(06:44):
is having an effect and keep righteously doing what the
US Constitution grants you the right to do.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And Congressman, we talked about that change from the President
in an earlier segment before you were on, and we
were seem to get mixed messages. President clearly said changes
are coming. He acknowledged the hotel, hospitality, and farm community
businesses that have been affected. Actually said there's some very
good people who are working those I'm paraphrasing who are
working and have been disrupted by this. But also the
(07:12):
White House is saying that they're going to step up actions.
So we'll have to see how much this kind of backtrack,
if we can call it that from the President, how
that will play out. But clearly you want to highlight that. Well.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Obviously the White House has to listen to Donald Trump,
and he said very clear today that he's reversing part
of his deportation policy. And I think he's seeing not
only the American people rising up, but actually the harm
to our economy. Inflation has increased, jobless claims have increased,
food prices have increased zero point three percent at the
(07:46):
grocery store, and so Donald Trump understands his policies were
also harming our economy.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Sir, you're what we call an emergency booking. You responded
when we called when there was an incident, and I
thank you for that, for making time out of your
busy day. We appreciate, especially from your vantage point in California.
Thank you so much for being with us.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Thank you, Kelly, We thank you for watching, and remember
stay updated on breaking news and top stories on the
NBC News app, or watch live on our YouTube channel
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