BONUS MONDAYS: BRACE YOURSELF: The TRUE & SUPPRESSED Teachings of Jesus REVEALED! GOOSEBUMPS! with Christina Lopes

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podcast are those of the guests and do not necessarily
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or any of the companies they represent. Now today on
the show, we have Christina Lopes and Christina and I
have a very very interesting conversation about dark energies, how

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to deal with them, how to identify them, how to
get them away from you, and we also speak about
the true teachings of Jesus and what has been manipulated
over the centuries. This is a really, really fun conversation, guys,
so let's dive in. I like to welcome to the show,
Christina Lopes.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
HOHI you, Christina, how are you? It's good to be here, Alex.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Thank you so much for coming on the show. I'm
excited to talk to you. You have a pretty interesting
journey to get to where you've been, where you've been
and where you are right now. So I did before
you before I get to your spiritual awakening and the
things that have kind of happened to you to get
to you where you are. What was life like prior

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to those events.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Well, prior to twenty thirteen, which is when I had
that that spiritual awakening. Prior to that, I was living
a pretty normal life in the sense that I was
I was a clinician. I'm a physical therapist by training
with a specialty NEU pediatrics, so I worked with children
with disabilities, and so that was that was my life.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
I was.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
I was married, I got married, bought a house, you know,
bought a car, just live in live in a regular
American life. But even in the year prior to my
spiritual awakening, I knew that there was something profoundly wrong
with me in the sense that I knew there was
something deep down inside of me that you know, trauma
to heal, things that had to that really had to

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be worked through. I just at the time didn't really
feel like I had the tools to go that deep.
And now I understand why, you know, after my spiritual
awakening and all of the work that I've done and
all of the healing work that I've done, things now
make sense looking back. But at the time, I think
for so many of us, you know, especially from people
that come from a lot of trauma. It's really hard

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sometimes to be able to know the depth of the
trauma that you have and also to have the tools
to deal with them, because we're not trained in our current,
you know, cosmopolitan society, to be able to heal trauma,
to work with trauma, to do that inner voyage. We're
not taught this in school. We should be, though, And

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so for me, life was regular before, but I knew
that I had things to work through. Also, I was
spiritual even before my spiritual awakening. I come from a
long line of women healers, so my grandmother was a
very powerful healer, and she taught me a lot of
things throughout life about the spirit, spirit world and how

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to clear energies and all of that stuff. She was
known in her village as kind of the village witch.
And so I bring those gifts from my mother's side.
But I was really afraid of those gifts, and I
was afraid of opening that door to spirituality. So I
followed a clinical path. I followed a science path, and
then in twenty thirteen, I decided, hey, you know, like

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my brain, my mind has taken me as far as
it can go really, and now it's time to open
the door to other things that are really my destiny,
really my higher path, what I call now my higher
path in life.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Why were you afraid to open that door?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
I was afraid because I really suffered as a child.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
I've been very very sensitive, spiritually tuned, very very since
of very young age, and there was a lot of trauma.
There were a lot of painful experiences going on in
my childhood. My father was very, very sick, and so
we had there was a lot of drama in the
family and the core family. There was a lot of
stuff that we were going through with my father's illness,
and so I was in a state of huge amount

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of stress, and.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
I had these spiritual gifts.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
So you know, when you have a lot of fear,
when you have a lot of low vibration energies around you,
you attract energies that are not always welcoming. And so
I was really scared as a child. I was visited
by a lot of energies. I was constantly tortured by
what I now know or shadow entities or darker entities,
you know, energies that are darker. And so my childhood

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was not particularly comfortable.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
My grandmother.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Speaking of my maternal grandmother, she was the one that
you know, she lived in a different, different place. So
when she would come and visit as one of the
first things I would beg her to do is do
her spiritual cleansings on me, and that would work for
a little while, and then I was back to feeling miserable.
I suffered from a lot of anxiety that was spiritual
anxiety really, because it was energies that were interfering with

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my energy field. And so when you grow up feeling
like you're being tortured by the other side, you don't
really want to open the door. As an adult, you
just want to close it and you want to pretend
that those things don't exist, and especially when you don't
have the tools to really explore. I think at the
time I didn't. I didn't have the tools to fully
explore the extent of the gifts that I was born with,

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and so it was just easier. It was just easier
to close the door and just try and live a
normal life. But you just can't do it, you know.
It's like a It's kind of like someone that's born
with the gift of being a constant pianist. You can
try not to play piano, but you're going to have
a pretty miserable life if you don't dedicate yourself to
the skills and to the gifts that you were born with.

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And I think it's the same thing with regardless of
what the gift is, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
With the idea of the negative energies, because a lot
of people deal with this obviously, what on the on
the part of the maybe phrase, when the soul is
going through its journey, why do you think that you
had to go through that point that experience in this
lifetime because it seems pretty intense. What purpose was that

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for your your overall soul's growth in this lifetime? I
love to if you if you figure that in shure?

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, yeah, So today, the primary way in which I
work with clients, even in healing trauma and developing their
sirit spiritual abilities, is it's really fundamentally a question of
coming into your power, you know, and and that that
piece of understanding who you are on a soul level,
understanding that you can't really be messed with unless there's

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some kind of belief or unless there's some kind of
fear in you, unless there's some kind of seed inside
of you that shows that idea of self doubt, the
idea that you're small, and then when you pile on
top of it religious indoctrination. I was raised Catholic, so
anyone that comes from a Christian upbringing understands that, you know,
we've heard so many times that you know, if we

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open the spiritual door, if we connect with spirit, we're
going to be connecting with the devil or God knows what.
And so if you have those if you have that
religious templating on top of it, you really feel small.
And I think what I felt as a child was
I didn't feel protected. I felt like the spirit world
was not welcoming. I felt like the spirit world was
all dark, and I felt like connecting with the spirit

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world was something very painful, and I didn't have the
experience of having the being able to interact with the
spirit world on a light aspect, or at least I
didn't feel it at the time. And of course all
of this was happening because there was a lot of fear,
There was a lot of trumpa going on in my
family life, and so I was just kind of attracting

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to me the energies that were vibrating at the same
frequency of that fear, the smallness, you know, powerlessness, and
so you really receive more of this energy interference when
you are in a state of powerlessness, when you do
not know who you are the moment that you do
know who you are. And one of the mantras that
I use now that my clients repeat over and over.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
I think it's one.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Of my favorite mantras that my clients use is the
mantra that I repeat constantly with them, and that is
there is no energy stronger than me. And this is
something that I really trained in myself. I remember that
even after my spiritual awakening, but before my spiritual awakening,
this was very common. I've always been very sensitive, and
I remember that I kind of made up certain protection

(09:38):
or coping mechanisms. If I went to a bar, I
would be looking for an exit in case I had
a panic attack, AKA, in case energies, harsh energies started
interfering with me. I would either look be looking for
a bathroom or I'd be looking for an exit. And
this is how I operated most of my life. I
operated with the belief that the energies out there are

(09:58):
stronger than me. And that I am powerless against them.
And so when I had my spiritual awakening, I resonate
very strongly. I have a mixture of both stellar energy,
crystalline you know, alien energy, if you want to call
it that way, Pleaadian energy, but also a very strong,
grounded shamanic energy. And I feel like that shamanic energy

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is really what got me through my spiritual awakening, because
it was through what my guides continued to instill in
me that I would continue to be visited by shadows
and by lower level energies as long as I believed
that I was powerless in the phase of that energy.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
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Speaker 3 (10:48):
And I remember, actually the last time that I was
ever truly bothered by a shadow energy. I used to
get attacked at night. So that's usually when I was
most vulnerable was at night. So it would get to
point where I felt like I was being thrown out
of bed. I'd wake up at three o'clock in the
morning and there was an entity of really dark, shadowy
entity entity inside my mental the mental plane of my aura,

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and it was tinkering with my thoughts and I had
been suicidal as a teenager, and so those shadow entities
would always tinker with the parts of you that are
most vulnerable, the parts of you that are most wounded.
And I remember they would start tinkering with my thoughts
and I would start thinking things, oh, you know, like
I should I should just end it, I should just

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kill myself. What am I doing here? But I started
to understand that that wasn't me. I wasn't thinking that
I was not Those thoughts weren't being provoked by me,
they weren't being initiated by me. And I remember one
of my guides said to me, you know, when you
have these attacks, you're calling for Jesus, for Archangel Michael.
You're calling for all these different entities, for your angels

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to come and help you because this energy feels horrible.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
But maybe it's.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Time for you to stop calling for anyone to come
and rescue you. And that was really my initiation. That
was I remember this, That was kind of the change
point for me. That very night, I was visited again
by a really powerful shadow entity. Threw me out of
bed again three o'clock in the morning, threw me out
of bed, and I remember I sat at the edge

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of the bed and instinctively I was going to call
I've always I've always had a really strong relationship with
Master Yeshua, not the Jesus of the Bible, but the
Yeshua as he existed as a master. And I've always
had a really close relationship with that energy, with the
energy of Mary Magdalene, and with the energy of archangels.
And I remember I sat in my bed and I
don't know if you've ever been bothered by shadow entities,

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but it's horribly uncomfortable on your body. And I remember
the first thought I had was call Yeshua, call angels.
And I remembered what my guide had said, one of
my guides. I have a team of guides that work
with me. And I remember my guide saying, you know,
like this, these these shadow entities are coming to help
you evolve, which is kind of a controversial thing to

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say these days, but shadow entities really do help us evolve.
They're here for push. They push us, They push and
they push. And I remember thinking, no, I'm not going
to call for Yeshua. I'm not going to call for anyone.
And I sat at the edge of my bed and
I said to the shadow entity. Your presence is not welcome.
Please leave. And I just opened a light portal and

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I sent it off. And that was the last time
that I was ever truly bothered by a shadow entity.
And that was a fundamental moment for me, because that
moment when I didn't call for angels, I didn't call
for anyone to come and rescue me. I stood there
and I said, this is me. I'm powerful. There's no
energy stronger than me. You are not welcome.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Please leave.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
You are not permitted to be in my presence. You
are most certainly not permitted to be in my energy field.
I do not permit it. I revoke permission for you
to interfere with me. May you go back to the light.
And today I use the mantra. I teach my students
to open light portals. There's no I always teach people
there's no war against shadow and light. There's no wars.

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Wars are in the human mind. And so what I
teach people to do is, when you feel bothered by
lower level energies, you simply open a portal, and you
program that light portal to take whatever lower level energy
back to God or back to source. And I Some
of my students sometimes laugh at me because I say,
you know, I command this energy to go back to
God to be recycled.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
And sometime people sometimes.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Laugh because it's like, but this is really how I feel,
because these energies, they have been polluting this plane for
a really long time. But when you really when you
really feel into your heart, these energies suffer a lot.
Lower level energies, shadow energies suffer a lot because they
have forgotten who they are.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
We are all part.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Of source energy. We all come from the same place.
And so when you open your heart and you really
understand how miserable it is to be a shadow entity
or to be a lower level soul that is just
kind of caught in this plane and just wants to
go home, you open that portal and you send that
entity with love and compassion back to God. And that

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really changed everything for me when I learned how to
do this. So now I would say it's it's really
a place of being in your power, understanding who you
are and understanding the power that you have to.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Really heal the planet.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
You know, and heal everything on this planet, not just
not just what's seen, but what's unseen.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Well, I am too a recovering Catholic, so I understand
exactly where you're coming from. There's a lot of a
lot of programming that that you have to deal with
to get through that. Obviously, this conversation alone, we're speaking
to the devil, obviously just even having this conversation. So

(15:54):
but the I just wanted to dig in just a
little bit into these shadow entities because it is something
that isn't spoken about very often, or it's spoken about incorrectly.
You know that there's demons, and there's this, and there's that,
and and I've heard about I've heard about these these
entities in near death experiences, people who have hellish near

(16:16):
death experiences that have to kind of transcend it because
of their own beliefs. They go down into this hellish
experience and then eventually you're saved and or escape if
you will, to the light. But can you explain just
a little deeper about what they are so people don't
get confused and get scared because it's I mean, it's

(16:38):
you know when you're talking about because when you hear
shadow entities, first thing I thought of is those black
things from ghost the things that that come out of
the shadows and they pull your soul down or something
like that. That was the very first thing that I
thought of when when I heard that for the first time.
I'm like, shadow went to do, Like oh yeah, and
with the sound effects and everything, I mean, it's Hollywood,

(16:59):
But but can you explain to people so they're not
They have to understand what it is and how to
deal with it in their own life, but what they
are and where they come from.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, so everything comes from the same place. There's only
one source, there's only one creator, there's only one's that's
the basis of all of reality. But there's also involved
in that oneness. There's also a evolutionary path, and an
evolutionary path that many times involves separation from that source

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or the illusion of separation from that source. So it's
almost like you know, God, Creator, whatever word you want
to use that's most comfortable for you. The universe, that oneness,
the big Bang, some people call it. There's a lot
of freedom in that, and there's unconditional love, and unconditional
love says you can go on your path, whatever that
path is, I love you the same way, and that's

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how I see source energy. Source energy says go forth
from me, and you are free to evolve, to expel,
and to experience reality or realities however you feel, because
you are free and I love you and conditionally, and
so if you think about it that way, you can
start to understand. The diversity that exists in the spirit

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world is the same diversity that exists in human form.
There's so many different aspects of us. There's so many diverses,
so much diversity down here, and there is so in
the spirit world also, So when you're connecting on the
light side, we're used to diversity.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
On the light side.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
There are angels, there are archangels, there are guides, There
are you know, ancestors that we call on. There are
various spirit guides that have so much diversity in them.
An archangel is very different from an angel and elemental
a guide of nature looks very different than you know,
a Yeshua or a Mary Magdalene, ascended masters that that

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have disincarnated. So we know about the diversity when it
comes to the light aspect, and we're comfortable with that diversity.
But on the dark aspect there's also diversity. And so
I call shadow entities anything that is vibrating at a
fundamentally lower level than my inherent soul vibration. And these
are entities at energy that make us feel very uncomfortable

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because they don't know how to interact with us through love.
They interact with us through fear. That's their food, that's
how that's how they feed. They feed off of fear.
So when you are in a low level not just fear,
but every variation of those lower level spectrum emotions, once
that entity feeds off of that, you're not going to

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feel love from them. But you're not going to feel love,
not because they are some aberration that's not under the
control of Creator. You're not going to feel love because
these energies have experienced so so so much vastness away
from the energy that they come from, that they have
forgotten who they are. And as saying, you know, I

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still reach a lot of sayings from the Bible, But
if that that moment when Christ is crucified and he
looks down at the Roman soldiers and he says, God,
forgive them for they know not. Father, forgive them, for
they know not what they do, this is a perfect
description of shadow energy. It really is they have forgotten
who they are. And then of course, we have layered

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you know, religion, we have Hollywood movies that come in
and you know, the Exorcism and all of these different things,
and it makes people afraid of this diversity on the
shadow aspect or on the dark aspect. But we don't
have to be afraid when you really think about the
fact that these energies they are only doing what they
know how to do. But if we really step into

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our power, there is no shadow energy that can never
interfere with you ever.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Again.

Speaker 1 (20:51):

Speaker 3 (21:00):
And one of my guides was, really I have there's
this beautiful team of guys. Thank god, they were really
helping me in my spiritual awakening, because I had a
really intense initiation when I first had a spiritual awakening,
and my energy system opened up completely and I felt
like I was being assaulted by everything on every side.
So thankfully I was able to channel the guidance of

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these beautiful guides and they just got I talk a
lot about this in my second book, the guidance that
I received throughout those initiation years. And one of the
beautiful things that one of my guides said to me
was that there is no war between light and dark,
that everything is evolving towards love, and that at this moment,
what we are doing and how we can help shadow entities,

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how we can help the dark move into the light
is by providing a lot of love and understanding and compassion.
And the example that one of my guides gave me
was about, you know, a lion in the Serengetti, and
she talked about how a lion is used to feeding
off of meat. You're not going to see a lion
go into a pond fishing because the lion is just

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used to doing something. But if that meat disappears, the
lion is going to have to be resourceful in changing
the way that they feed themselves, the way that they
nourish themselves. And it's the same thing with shadow energies.
The moment that fear, that shame, that guilt, that rage
starts to disappear from the planet, these shadow energies will

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evolve into the light and into love because that's the
only path of evolution. There's no way around, there's no
going back, and so we're all moving more towards the
light and more towards the love, not just light beings,
but dark beings also. It's inevitable, but there's a little
bit of chaos being created on the planet while we're
moving towards that light because shadow energy is going to

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continue to doing what it does best, which is interfere.
It's going to amplify your more dense emotions. It's going
to incentivize you to do things that are not of love.
But this is changing, and this is going to change,
and eventually there will be no more darkness. There will
be no shadow, shadow realm. We're all going towards the light,

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and that's you know, it's a beautiful way of seeing
things that is so different from the religious upbringing that
I had, and it's so different from the disempowered way
in which we are taught in society when to confront
evil or to confront darkness, right, it's a completely different way,

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but it's a way that feels right to me. It's
a way that feels righteous to me, and it's a
way it feels more in alignment with the creator of all.
You know, when I really go back to the origin
of it, if we all come from the same place,
then all the demons of the world are also as
loved by God as any light being is, or as

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any one of us is, you know, and that I
feel like that is a much more empowering and loving
way of looking at the diversity and the spirit realm
in the same way that we can look at the
diversity of people and beings on the planet.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
That is a beautiful way of looking at it. And
you're absolutely right. I mean, everything comes from source, regardless
of if they've gone astray or not from their path,
which then rolls me into this next question in regards
to what's going on on the planet today. There's a
lot of talk that, you know, things are insane. This

(24:28):
has never been as bad as it's been now. That's
not true, in my opinion, that's not true at all.
It's been much worse. It's been much worse. We've had
much arder lives on this planet than we have right
now as a complete species. Absolutely, but right now there
seems to be a tremendous amount of chaos. Even more
so even in my lifetime, from the seventies to where

(24:50):
we are right now, there seems to be a different
kind of chaos. I mean, I was raised under the
Cold War, so you know, at any moment, like oh
any day now, you know, you watch that movie the
day after and you're like, oh, good lord, nuclear We're
all gonna die at any second. So it was under
that kind of constant fear. It's different now, but there

(25:14):
seems to be a lot razier. It seems to be
a lot more chaotic, from wars going on, to the politics,
to the economies, to every major institution, medical, religious, all this.
There just seems to be chaos everywhere. A Catholic Church,
for god sakes, that seems to be a little shaky,

(25:35):
not nearly as all powerful as it was when you
and I were children. When you and I were children,
they could do no wrong. It was the Catholic Church.
Right now a couple of shaking, couple of bricks have
shaken out. But what is your feeling on what is
happening today? With a lot of the negativity, a lot

(25:56):
of the old energies of like wars that are going on,
and to be honest, people who are on the global
stage who are really affecting you know, billions, definitely millions,
but some of them billions of other people because of
their they're really kind of low, low, low energy. So

(26:20):
there's that aspect of it. But then there's also seems
to be a lot of light going on as well,
because you and I are having a conversation like this
in a very public forum, and our audiences are growing,
so there seems to be more wanting for this. So
I'd love to hear your thoughts on what's going on.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
So I think the fundamental change. There are multiple things
going on at the same time. It's not simple, but
one of the core things happening, and that a lot
of people forget, is that we are on top of
a sentient rock barreling through space at seventy thousand miles
an hour, and this beautiful planet, she is sentient, and

(26:56):
so in the same way that we are each evolving,
so is the planet that we call home. That we're
literally our bodies are nourished by this planet and kept
alive by this planet, and so if her energy ascends,
our energy must ascend with her. We cannot stay on
this planet. The vibrations will be off too much, and
so some of the chaos that's happening on the planet

(27:17):
right now, particularly after the COVID pandemic. The pandemic was
really a turning point for the vibration of the planet.
And I've talked about this a lot, and that symbolism,
that archetypal symbolism, that where we were all forced to
quarantine the planet herself while we were all at home,
she was changing, and she was changing really fast. And

(27:38):
when we opened our doors to come out of quarantine,
we were no longer standing on the same planet. From
an energetic perspective, there was a huge shift in energy,
and that energy was very, very quick.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
So after the COVID.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Pandemic, we stepped out of our doors and suddenly we're
stepping on a land that no longer has the same
energy it did before, and that new energy is starting
to trick go up our feet, up our legs, into
our energy system. And one of the things that higher
level energy does is it starts to shake, you know.
So the example that I like to give is if

(28:12):
you think about a water tank that's been sitting for
let's say a year. You have a tank full of
water and it's been sitting for a year motionless. You
look at the water and it may look like it's
crystal clear, But all you have to do is just
go to the tank and shake it, and suddenly all
of the sediment comes up, everything that was unseen comes up,
and that's essentially what's happening inside of each and every

(28:32):
one of us. This new vibration on the planet is
shaking us, and it's really forcing us to have deep,
deep existential conversations with ourselves. Am I happy? Am I
happy in this relationship? And my happy at my job
and my happy at life? What am I doing with
my life? And it doesn't even have to be in
a deeply spiritual questions. There are a lot of people

(28:54):
going through awakenings. Millions upon millions of people are going
through spiritual awakenings, but many of us are going through
awakenings that they wouldn't even call spiritual. They're just they're
just an existential crisis. Something is shaking inside of them.
When all of that shakes, If you do not have
the spiritual and emotional maturity to be able to work

(29:16):
through the material that's coming to the surface, you're just
going around and you're just gonna want to punch people
in the face.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
You're gonna want happening in New York.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
It's literally literally, yeah, what I'm saying is not an
over the top example. These things are literally happening, road rages,
people screaming at you, and then out of nowhere, people
having just like rage attacks. This is happening, But these
are people that are having their tanks shaken by the
energy of Mother Gaya, and they do not have the emotional,

(29:48):
the spiritual understanding over the tools to work through all
of the emotional baggage, all of the past traumall of
the past experiences, all of the ancestral energy, everything that
they have been carrying for generations, that they carry in
their bodies is coming up to be seen and to
be healed. And imagine just that if we just talk
about this aspect, imagine how chaotic the world is. Right,

(30:12):
all of this stuff is coming to the surface. I'm
feeling angry. Why am I angry? I have no idea
why I'm angry, no idea. I don't know how to
work with my emotions. Nobody's ever taught me to work
with my emotions. So I'm just gonna get angry and
I'm gonna want.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
To punch someone.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
And then here comes the shadow entities. Shadow entities amplify
the worst in us. And so the shadow entities come
and they're like, oh, look at that guy. He's really angry,
let's go stick on top of him and feed off
of that energy. And what ends up happening is the
anger amplifies, and the anger amplifies, and then eventually I'm
gonna kill someone or I'm gonna punch someone in the
face because the energy has been so amplified. Right, So

(30:47):
that's one slice of what's happening.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
and now back to the shit.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Another way of talking about this, too, is that the
planet as she is ascending, there's split in timelines, which
I'm sure you've talked about on your show before too.
There's this three D timeline which is basically the continuation
of separation consciousness. These are the people that are here
that are so stuck in their ego that they're not
waking up. They're not waking up, They're just Hey, you know,

(31:23):
my life is just about making money and being successful,
and it doesn't matter if I have to pillage the
earth to do that.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
I don't care about the earth. I don't care about
anything except making money. Me versus you, let's go to war.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
This is all three D timeline, but there's a very
powerful five D timeline coming in, and a lot of
us are jumping on that boat, on that five D boat,
and these timelines are splitting and they are becoming more evident.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Every single day. And so if you just think.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
About this from that perspective, Mother Earth, guess what timeline
she's getting on. She's not getting on the three D
time and she is not allowing the three D timeline
to perpetuate on top of her. So you've got Mother
Gaya and you've got millions of souls that are awakening,
and we're going on this five D timeline. We're starting
to wake up and we're starting to say, wait a minute,

(32:14):
I'm not powerless. I don't care what my religion has
told me. I am not powerless, i am not small.
I am a sovereign, sovereign being with a lot of power,
and I'm going to work on myself and I'm going
to access levels of myself that I've never accessed before.
I'm going to grow. And so we're going on this
five D timeline. And the biggest chaos that you're seeing

(32:37):
right now is in the three D timeline because it's
falling out. But these things sometimes are hard to die.
And so when we talk about three D timelines. We're
talking about everything. We're talking about separation consciousness in medicine,
separation consciousness in government, separation consciousness in our oldest institutions
in religion. We're talking about every single corner of the

(32:59):
planet where power and corruption and greed have kind of
filtered into Those things are crumbling, and they're crumbling right
in front of our eyes. Everybody can see it. So
even the people that you were talking about a little
while ago, you know, you were saying that it seems
like the people with the lowest vibrations are the ones

(33:19):
that are running countries or ruling the world or whatever.
I believe that there's a purpose to that. There's a
purpose because we as human beings, we evolve through the
contrast of mirrors, and so sometimes we need to see
a really painful mirror. We need to be pushed to
the extremes of polarization in order to decide inside of us,

(33:41):
I don't want that that. I don't want that no more.
And so sometimes these leaders that are lower vibration, they
end up popping up on civilization to show us things
that we do not want to repeat, you know, Hitler
being a perfect example. Of one such figure that pops
up and shows us the worst that exists inside of us,

(34:04):
and that was embodied by this figure, by this person.
After this person exited the planet, we still have memory
of how far down we can go in terms of
separation consciousness, and so it's important for us to have
these examples. It's important for us to hold these images
in our minds because sometimes we forget, we forget how

(34:25):
far the human can fall from grace in the sense
of forgetting who they are.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
On a soul level.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
So even these figures that you're talking about, they have
their place, and as long as you remember who you
are and you continue to wake up to that fact,
pretty soon those figures will not be necessary, and we
will be led by people that are also of the light,
by people that are also light beings, by people that
are also doing the inner work. Right, But that shift
is going to happen when there's a threshold of enough

(34:55):
people that are doing their own inner work, and we're
still going towards that the worst working on that right,
I would say there are millions of people truly awakening
and doing the inner work that's necessary to get into
a five D timeline, But there are seven point five
billion people on the planet, so there's we still need
a little bit more of awakening souls before that threshold

(35:16):
can be met and we tip the scale into the
five D reality.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
So let's talk about your spiritual awakening. What can you
explain exactly what happened during your awakens?

Speaker 3 (35:27):
So I think my awakening is very similar to a
lot of wounded healer paths and to a lot of
people that awaken. Really, I've worked with thousands of clients
and a lot of us have the same story, which
is I was living a regular life and then something
dramatic happened, and in that dramatic situation, my ego broke
and I decided, Wow, this ego has really been manifesting

(35:52):
crap after crap in my life, and I'm tired of
letting my ego lead. My mind has reached its limit.
My mind does There's a limit to my mind, even
though it thinks it knows everything. And now I am
going to explore the part of me that is more powerful,
that is connected to source, and that it has a
higher vision of my life.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
And that's what happened to me. I was living a
regular life.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
My marriage ended very very abruptly, and these things tend
to happen in my life. I'm a double Sagittarius, so
I have a lot of fire energy. So when my
soul says, okay, it's time to change your.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Path, it's not a soft thing.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
It's just like, Hey, your wife is going to get
home and she's going to ask for a divorce out
of nowhere. That's literally what's going to happen to you.
And so this is what happened to me. And I
remember that I've been through a lot of trauma in
my life, and so when I got to that point
and that happened to me, there was a part of
me that felt so much of course, you know, so

(36:48):
much loss, so much grief, so many things were happening
in that moment. I was finishing a very demanding degree
at Johns Hopkins. I was a physical therapist, but then
I went back to school. I also have a master's
of public health from John's Home Upkins, which is the
top public health institution in the world, and so I
was going through a really rigorous master's degree at the
time that my marriage fell apart. I was just starting

(37:08):
my master's thesis, and.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
So it was just absolute chaos.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
To this day, I don't even know how I made
it through that degree, but I did make it. A nay,
I did graduate. But it was a really really difficult
period in my life. And although I was feeling all
of this grief and I was feeling like, you know,
my life is literally falling apart, there was also another
part of me, my soul, that I could hear very
clearly that said, no, there's a purpose to this. And

(37:34):
I know there's a purpose to this, and something is
opening up. And I opened that door. That's really when
I opened my door. When I opened that door, I
remember I was lying on my bed. I had my
beautiful great Dane in bed with me, and you know,
my marriage had just fallen apart, and I remembered I
looked up. I was in the darkness, and I just
looked up to the ceiling and I said, you know,
my life has not been working out really well this way.

(37:55):
I am ready now to open the door to spirit.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
I'm ready. I'm ready. Just come and get me, do
it all what y'all want to do with me. I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
I'm ready for this path. And that invitation, I think
is everything. When you invite spirit into your life. Holy Moly,
you like everything, everything changes, and so that open ended invitation,
please open this door and show me what my path is,
what my highest path is, what my soul path is.

(38:24):
You know, I know I'm on this planet to follow
that soul path. And I'm tired of playing around, And
that was basically the energy.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
I'm tired of playing around.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
I'm ready for my highest soul path because there are
various soul paths, right like your soul is non judgmental.
So when you come down here, you forget, You have
that veil of forgetfulness. You forget where you come from,
you forget who you are. And so your soul allows
for your human avatar to go down this road and
go down that road, and go down the other road.

(38:53):
But there is a highest path. That's the path that
your soul prefers for this lifetime.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
And there comes a point in your.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Road where your soul will pull you towards that highest path,
sometimes against your human avatars will.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
And I don't know.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
If that's ever happened to you, Alex, where it's like
there comes a point has this happened to you? Where
it seems like through part of our lives, we were
just doing crap after crap after crap, and the soul
was like, you go ahead, you just keep doing that,
no problem, I'm not going to interfere. But then there
comes a point where your soul's like, all right, enough
horsing around. This is it You're not doing Nope, you
are going.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Down this path.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
This is your path, and that's it, and I'm not
going to hear any more of it.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
So has this happened to you?

Speaker 1 (39:34):
And many times, many times, yeah, especially in my twenties,
thirties and even forties.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Yeah, so yes, absolutely, And so that was the moment
that I said, okay, I will I will follow my soul.
I will follow my soul, and I will turn this
human avatar, this mind, this meat suit of mine, I
will teach it to follow my soul. I will heed

(40:00):
this human avatar to the greatest extent possible so that
the vibration of my soul can enter my body fully
and I can connect with that highest path that my
soul set out for me. And that's basically been my
intention since twenty thirteen.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Really, So, so there wasn't like, you know, Yesha didn't
show up and go okay, Christina's time it wasn't anything
like that. There was didn'ha's in the corner.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah, yes, she would, Yes, she would did show up
because he was actually the first guide that I asked for.
So when I was lying on that bed, I opened
that door. I remember it was the first guide that
it's one. He's one of my greatest masters, and he
was with me for a really long time, the master
that I always called on in the initial years of
my awakening.

Speaker 1 (40:48):

Speaker 3 (40:57):
And I remember that that was the first time that
I had an astral projection what would be considered an
astral projection. I didn't know what that was at the time,
but I remember I was lying on the bed and
I said, okay, I'm opening this door, please come and
get me. And it was Yeshuay that came and get me.
It was for the first experience I had of having
an out of body experience, and that was that was
the trigger of my spiritual awakening, followed by multiple years

(41:22):
of a lot of difficulties. I really do have that
wounded healer's path, a very shamanic path of having to
go down to the depths of my own underworld, face
all of my demons, turn over every rock of my
inner world so that I could bring love and light
to it, and in that way as send my vibration

(41:43):
then help guide others through their own underworlds, which is
what I do. Now.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
It seems that, you know, Yesha was teachings, true teachings
are making a comeback, if you will, where it's starting
to be this law from religion and dogma and fear,
and it's starting to come up with people are saying
Yeshoa now not just Jesus uh, you know, and and

(42:12):
and end up pulling away from the the ideas that
the Catholic Church put out and other sex put out.
Of his teachings and his true teachings seem to be
coming back more where people are going, you know, I
got to separate Yeshoa from this institution of fear and

(42:32):
dogma uh and other things that he never met. Like
I I've said this on the show many times. I was.
I was, I was blessed to be able to go
to Italy and I went to visit Vatican City. And
when I went to the Vatican, I just you know,
so I don't know if you've been or not. But
when you walk around, I'm like, this has nothing to
do with Jesus. There's nothing to do with him. His

(42:56):
teachings not like absolutely nothing. It's a pretty it was
pretty eye opening to me. I was like, oh, but
I'd love to hear your thoughts on where his teachings
are going and why people are starting to reach out
and look for his ideas in a more clean, non

(43:18):
heavy way.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Well, Yeshua's teachings. I always say his name. His name
was Yeshua Been Joseph, and I like to say his
actual real name because to me, that connects to the
purity of his energy as a master. And his teachings
were absolutely revolutionary for the time. He literally, I mean
they were revolutionary because they were anti institutional, they were

(43:43):
anti religious in many ways. He was known to confront
to Jewish high priests, he was known to confront authority,
he was known to confront power, and so his teachings
were absolutely revolutionary. But you also have to think of
the master that exists in within the collective consciousness of

(44:05):
the time. Right, So we're talking about a time of
immense turmoil, We're talking about a time of immense power
struggles wars just I mean, if we think the energy
is dense right now, talk about when Yeshua was alive.
I mean it was horribly violent. I mean it was
just chaos. And so if you imagine that this great

(44:25):
Master comes, this great Master is anti religious, anti institutional.
This great Master is talking about how the Kingdom of
Heaven is inside of you. This is revolutionary because this
Master is saying, you don't need an intermediary, you don't
need anyone else talking.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
To God for you.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
You have a direct connection. You are a child of
that source. You don't need any intermediaries. You have power,
you have sovereignty, You are an eternal being. The kingdom
that you are seeking his inside of you. This is
his fundamental message. This is revolutionary for the time and
too revolutionary for power structures that wanted to control and

(45:12):
oppress people. And so if you grab Yeshua's original teachings,
you can understand that there was no way that these
original teachings could survive at the time because of where
we were collectively. So Yeshua came down and he planted
a seed, and he's planted a seed that's taken thousands
of years to develop, but he planted a seed at
the right time. It really takes many, many, many generations

(45:35):
for us to change collective consciousness. That's just how humans
operate in this plane. And so he came down, he
planted the seed, and he said, he whispered in our ears.
You do not need a church, you do not need
a temple, You do not need anything to collect to
connect to your creator. Your creator is within you. You
come from that energy, and you can have a conversation

(45:56):
with that energy directly. This is very, very jarring for
structures that want to control and oppress a certain level
of the population. And so in comes this religious movement
that says it is speaking for this Master. Yet it
does everything opposite of what the Master taught. It's a
system of controlling. It's a system of instilling fear. It's

(46:16):
a system of instilling an intermediary. So now suddenly I
can't talk to God directly.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
I have to go to a.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Priest, and I have to confess to a priest, and
then a priest tells me what God is saying. What no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
you know, And so all of these things start to happen.
These are all forms of control and if you look
around the world, I love to visit Catholic sites, but
I'd love to visit Catholic sites, not because of the.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Energy of the building that was built on tap on that.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
Site, but because Catholic sites, some of the holiest Catholic
sites on Earth, were constructed on top of previously existing powerful.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Energy spots on the planet.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Usually pagan in nature or non Christian would go in,
they would pillage everything that was non Christian, and then
they would build their churches on top of.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
These sacred spots.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
So, yeah, you can go into a church and it's
so powerful, but it's really powerful because it was built
on sacred land that had been existing for thousands of
years prior to these institutions coming in. And so the
Catholic Church had its time all and not just the
Catholic Church. Any institution that involves having power over others

(47:29):
is dissolving. It's not just the Catholic Church, but any
institution really. And so now what's happening is we are
now embodying the teachings of Yeshua. The Kingdom of Heaven
is within me. I am a sovereign being, I make
decisions for myself. I am powerful I do not need
an intermit intermediary to connect to my source. And so

(47:51):
it's like we are reviving. We are coming into that
Christ energy. But Christ energy, not in a religious sense.
Christ energy almost like Buddha energy, where you're connecting to
the teachings of the Master, more in its purity. But
it's because we're ready now, because we're wreaking up. It's
really hard, right, Like we wouldn't have been ready to listen,

(48:12):
to truly listen to the revolutionary teachings of Yeshua twenty
thirty years ago because we ourselves were in a disempowered state.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
You can't hear.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Yeshua's messages if you feel powerless.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
You can't hear it.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
If you think you are small, if you think you
don't matter, if you think you have no way of
changing the world or yourself, the Yeshua's messages just go
right over your head.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
You can't hear.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
So what you're gonna end up hearing is you're gonna
end up hearing a distorted interpretation of Yeshua's teachings through
a pastor, through a priest, and then you're gonna absorb
that and you're gonna think that that's true, and then
you're gonna be stuck because it's not true. And so
now I feel like there's a revival not just of
Yesu's teachings, but always also really important. What was his

(48:59):
wife and sacred partner, Mary Magdalen? You cannot talk about
Yesua without talking about his wife that denied?

Speaker 1 (49:05):
What?

Speaker 2 (49:05):
What?

Speaker 3 (49:07):
What?

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Stop you walk?

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Can't you cannot?

Speaker 1 (49:12):
He is not married? That's impossible.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Exactly exactly how what a Jewish married to a woman
and to her no less?

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Wasn't she the town ho?

Speaker 2 (49:25):
I mean exactly exactly amazing.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
You hear these stories and it's so I mean, you
start going into the historical facts and you go, well,
he was a Jewish Jewish man in that time period,
he would be married. He wouldn't have just walked around
as a bachelor with the twelve other dudes, like he's
not there.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Well, not to mention, not to mention even even the
the the details are even within the New Testament. It's
like they tried very very very hard to erase Mary
Magdalen from the historical records. But she can't be erased.
And so you have to start. Even if you are
a Christian and you just follow the New Testament. Let's
not even talk about how the New Testament was formed,

(50:08):
because that's a really long conversation. But let's say, yeah, yeah, Zach,
Let's just say that you absolutely believe that the New
Testament was handed down right from God and written, and
that's the law. Even if you believe that within the
New Testament, there are plenty of details of who Mary
Magdalene was. Mary Magdalen was the woman standing at the

(50:31):
foot of the cross when he was dying.

Speaker 1 (50:35):

Speaker 3 (50:44):
A prostitute be She was not a prostitute. The idea
that she was a prostitute wasn't even invented. It's not
in the New Testament. It was invented by a pope
centuries later. But that's a whole other conversation. She was
not a prostitute. She was present at the foot of
the cross. She was the first person to witness Yeshua's resurrection,

(51:05):
Whichtian Egyptian alchemy would call that she saw his cow body.
I don't know if you've talked a lot about Egyptian
alchemy on your show, but he appeared to Mary Magdalen
before any of his disciples. This is telling why would
he appear to a random woman before his most trusted disciples,

(51:28):
including the one that would then come to found the
Catholic Church. The information is contained in the New Testament.
If you just see it with different eyes, and if
you start thinking, thinking for yourself and not from the
interpretations of pastors and priests, you will start to see
that the truth is already there. So and that information

(51:49):
is coming back. Also, you cannot talk about Yeshua without
talking about his wife, because his wife was fundamental in
him being able to fulfill his mission on earth. And
part of the reason why she was erased was, you know,
all of these patriarchal models that then took over and
repressed women for thousands of years.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
And so the.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Rise of that of that feminine energy that it could
be in a woman or in a man, the rise
of that feminine energy because feminine energy is not gendered,
masculine energy isn't gendered. But there's a rise of that
feminine in all of us that's being asked to be recognized,
and it's been banished for thousands of years, and so
now we are recognizing that energy and we're recognizing it

(52:30):
a lot through even the bringing back the knowledge, bringing
back the truth that he had a wife and that
she was fundamental, that she was a very very powerful
spiritual teacher that went to the South of France after
his death and literally converted the entire South of France
in a short amount of time. I've been to the
South of France and it's absolutely incredible, the veneration that

(52:51):
they have for Mary Magdalene. You don't hear about these
things a lot, but if you go to the South
of France, you certainly know who Mary Magdalene was and
you know her story. And so all of these things
are starting to come up because this knowledge, this truth
was concealed for a long time, but it is not
concealed anymore. And part of the reason why that's happening

(53:11):
is because we are awakening to our power. We are
awakening to our own discernment. We're not taking I don't
want to swear on your show, but we're not believing bs.
We're not believing the bs that we've been fed for
a long time. We used to be able, we used
to believe bs. Oh look, this authority figure up here
is telling me something. It must be true. No, I

(53:33):
don't accept that anymore.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
I don't care if it's authority figure. I don't care.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
If it's the pope, I don't care, if it's the
President of the United States. I don't care if it's
a king or queen. I am going to experience truth
inside of me and I will be able to discern
what is right for me. And that's what's happening on
the planet. And that's why the teachings of yes You
are coming back.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Now. Another thing about Yesha and Christians in general, they
seem to be obsessed with sin. It is an a
session with Catholics, with Christians of this sin or that sin,
and dissolving sin, original sin.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
I mean, it's everywhere.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
But yet yes Sua never really spoke about sin. It's
not a thing that he was like talking about all
the time. I forgot. I think he mentioned he who
has has never sin throw the first stone. I think
that's one of the few mentions of him talking about
sin and judgment in that In that way, can you

(54:31):
kind of delve in a little bit to this obsession
of sin and how it's how it's kind of polluted.
Yesha was teachings.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
Yeah so if you if you think about it's it's
really simple how sin comes in. Sin comes in as
a tool of control. That's that's really it.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Sin comes in as.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
A tool of control being used to retain power. Sin
the way that Yeshua talked about it, and you can
you can learn about the teachings of Yeshua also in
the Gnostic Gospels a lot.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
But sin is in the way Yeshua talked about it.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Sin simply meant I do something from my forgetfulness. So
I do something from my ego, I do something from
separation consciousness. And if I do something from separation consciousness,
it's bound.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
To cause pain.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
It's bound to cause hurt because I am operating. I
am behaving outside of my soul truth. I am behaving
from a place where I have forgotten who I am
and where I come from. That's what sin meant for Yeshua.
The word sin was then used as a tool of control,
because I cannot control someone unless I have something on them,

(55:50):
right like I have to have something on you, right
Like It's if you think about, you know, someone that's
blackmailing another person, how are they blackmailing another person because
they've got juicy information that that person doesn't want the
world to know. And so that's what a blackmail is.
I'm going to threaten you. Sin being used by authorities
is the same thing. There's this belief that is instilled

(56:14):
in us from when we are born. I mean, imagine
how horribly traumatizing it is to instill in a newborn
child that they have sin, meaning that they are not
good enough, they're not good enough as they are, that
they come out of their mother's womb with something wrong
with them. This is horribly traumatizing, and so we traumatize

(56:37):
our children. We've been traumatizing entire societies, making them believe
that they are not good enough, that there is something wrong,
fundamentally wrong with them, and they need to go to
church every Sunday to fix what's.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Wrong with them.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
You know, they need to go to you need.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Yeah, exactly, exactly exactly. I mean, but it could be Jesus,
or it could be any other religion. Christianity is not
the only religion that uses the idea of sin in
order to go right. And so this tool of sin,
it was needed and a time in order to reinforce
the power structures of an emerging religion right and so

(57:14):
the moment that you say you're sinful, there is something
wrong with you, come to Jesus, come to this church.
Oh and look, here's the basket. Give your money and
all of your possessions and you will be delivered. People
are starting to see this, BS. There has never been
anything wrong with you. There is absolutely no such thing
as original sin. You were born of love. You were

(57:37):
born perfect from your creator. You were born out of
your beautiful mother's womb with absolutely nothing wrong with you.
You know, And if you still have these templates today,
if you were brought up religious or even non religious,
because this belief in sin has permeated every level of
our society, even in people who consider themselves atheists, they

(57:59):
are still templated to believe that there's something wrong with him,
and they always have to be chasing something. You've got
to be chasing something because you're not good enough, there's
something wrong with you. So this idea of sin is
so pervasive that it has penetrated literally every inch of
our society, even in areas that are non religious. And
so we need to be delivered from this. And we're

(58:20):
going to be delivered from this through ourselves by no
longer accepting this BS as true, you know, and so
sin to me was very simply just an instrument of control.
But if you follow yes She's teachings, if you go
back to the purity of his teachings, I don't need
an intermediary. And if I have done anything, if I
have acted in a way that has been hurtful towards someone,

(58:42):
because I acted in a way through my forgetfulness, I
acted through my ego, that conversation has between me and
my source, and between me and the person that I
have harmed or that.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
I have hurt. You see, still, I don't need a priest.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
I don't need to go to church. I don't need
to give my fortune to the church. I don't need
to give all my life savings to the church. The
conversation is between me and my source. I'm very sorry
that I hurt that person. I have behaved from a
place of forgetfulness. But you see, this conversation is different.
I'm sorry that I hurt that person because I've behaved
from a place of forgetfulness is very different from oh

(59:17):
my god, I hurt that person.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
There's something wrong with me. I'm a horrible human being.
I'm a piece of crap.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
You see very different conversation inherent in me understanding that
maybe I have sinned in the sense that I have
behaved in a way that's hurtful through my forgetfulness. I'm
having a conversation that I beg forgiveness, I ask for forgiveness,
I say I'm sorry. I have no problem saying I'm sorry,
and I have no problem going and working on amending that,

(59:45):
but always from a position that there is nothing fundamentally
wrong with me and my value has not been touched
whether I sin or not. That's powerful when you really
when when you take that in and when you understand
sin in that way.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Now, one of my other favorite things to talk about
about the dogma of the Catholic religion is hell. I
absolutely love talking about hell. I think it's fascinating. And
my understanding, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is
that there is no hell in the Old Testament. That

(01:00:21):
was not a concept. It's not in the Torah. Judaism
did not create it at all. It's a New Testament situation.
and now back to the show. And from my understanding,

(01:00:43):
it was a misinterpretation of an elect not a lecture,
but a sermon that Jesus gave saying that there was
a lake where they threw the garbage in, and they
burned a garbage in that lake, and if you don't
get your act together, you're gonna go over there, or
something along those lines. And they took that in either

(01:01:03):
in the Council and I see or wherever. They said, Hell, oh,
that's a good job. Yeah, hey, how about the fallen
angel thing. Let's throw that in there too. That'll be
a nice little mix. And okay, great, great, yeah, yeah,
we'll do that. And then Dante showed up and they're like, yeah,
this Dante thing, ooh, we could take some of this
imagery and like mix it in. And the concept of
Hell that we have is truly a mixture of the

(01:01:25):
original stories that we're just talking about and Dante, because
there is no seven levels of Hell in the Bible
or any of that stuff. That's a Dante thing from
what I understand. Also, Dante's not about Hell, it's about
an it's not even about Hell. It's an interpretation as
a metaphor for it. But they took it as an
inferno and in Hell all that stuff. I'd love to

(01:01:48):
hear your point of view on this.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
So hell to me is also another piece of the
puzzle of control.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Right, I use the word.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Sin, and I've got to have a destination, Right, If
I'm trying to control the masses, I have to have
a destination. I have to have a consequence for when
a person misbehaves or when the person does the wrong thing.
If there's no consequence, if the person sins and they
go right back to source when they die, then what's

(01:02:18):
the point. People are going to be like, what's the
point of me following your advice Rabbi or priest or
emom or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
What's the point?

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Why should I listen to you If in the end,
when I die, I'm just going back to God. I'm
going back to source because there's only one place to go,
So why should I listen to you? So there has
to be a consequence added to that in order to
put fire under a person's feet so they can do
exactly what power structures wanted them to do. Right, And
so that's where the concept of hell comes in. Now,
I'm not saying it doesn't exist. Hell does exist, but

(01:02:47):
it exists in completely different way. Of what the interpretations were.
To me, hell is a state of consciousness that one
resides in right so you can create your own health.
It's not up there, it's not over there, it's right here.
You can create your hell on earth. We are creating
little hells on Earth right now, when we're bombing countries,

(01:03:07):
when we're killing children, when we're just doing obscenities on
this planet.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
To me, that's hell.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
That is literally hell. You don't have to die and
go to hell. Hell is happening in pockets of this
world right now. And hell happens inside of many people's
heads and inside of their hearts. Hell happens when someone
wants to murder someone else, when someone hates someone else,
when someone has envy of someone else. That's hell to
me because you are vibrating in a fundamentally different state

(01:03:37):
of consciousness than your source and your soul. And any
time you depart from how your soul and how God
sees things, you're in a state of hell. The more
that you depart from how your soul sees, the more
hellish your life becomes. And so hell to me exists,
but it exists at a state of consciousness that is really, really,
lower level painful where a lot of suffering occurs. So

(01:04:01):
that's how I see Hell. But Hell, of course is
a place that was formed through interpretation.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
And I have a lot of compassion.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
I know that sometimes we dish on, you know, people
that lived thousands of years ago, and they were interpreting
certain things. But you have to remember that people that
lived two thousand and three thousand years ago, they were
interpreting or trying to interpret. And I have no doubt
that a lot of these people, and I'm going to
say a lot of men, because it was mostly men
in power structures at that time, they were interpreting Yeshua's teachings,

(01:04:33):
or they were interpreting any spiritual teaching at the time,
through the lens of their beliefs, of their religion, of
their society, through the beliefs of gender. They were interpreting
everything through all of these lenses. And so you're trying
to interpret something that's pure, but then as soon as
that purity passes through the various human lenses that you have,

(01:04:55):
the interpretation comes out distorted. Of course, it comes out
to stor. So I don't hate or dish all these
people that tried to interpret you know like they interpreted
the teachings of Yeshua the best that they could at
the level of consciousness that they were at two thousand
years ago. But we're in a different level of consciousness now,

(01:05:16):
and we can now reinterpret Yeshua's teachings. We can reinterpret
old spiritual traditions of truth that was already on this
planet through the lens of a more purified lens, right,
a more ascended lens that we aren't now.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
I have to ask you another one of my favorite
topics when it comes to Yeshua is the YadA YadA YadA. Now,
there's a YadA YadA YadA in Jeshua story. He is
born at thirteen. There's a story in the Bible. YadA YadA, YadA,
I show up on a donkey at thirty. The YadA
YadA YadA is my fascination. And I've studied and looked

(01:05:55):
into what that time period happened. And even when I
was a kid, I asked the nuns this at my
Catholic school, and they'll like, stop asking questions, and I'm like, Okay,
this seems to be suspect. If I can't even ask
a question about this, they just blank out this time period.
I'm like, what was teenage Jesus or you know, Yesha,
what I like, you know, was he a troublemaker? You know?

Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
Was he dating?

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
You're like, it's just curious, like what he was doing
at that time. To my understanding, that there is and
I want to hear what you're I'm sure you've gone
down this road. I'm sure you have. To my understanding,
he was trained, he did travel, He went to Tibet,
he went to India, he went to the mystery schools

(01:06:39):
in Egypt. There is some sort of historical proof of
that of these things in one way, shape or form,
in the in the archaeology of things. From my understanding,
I'd love to hear where you thought. What you think,
because I've always looked at you. As soon as I
started going down the Yogi path, the Yogic path and

(01:07:01):
studying those masters like Yoga Nanda or Baba g or
these these these lineages in the in the East, I
just started looking back at at Yesha. I'm like, oh,
he's he's a yogi. Yeshivah is a great yogi because
a lot of the miracles in the Bible, those are
yogic powers that they've been talking about in the East forever,

(01:07:24):
and in the East he's revered, I mean in India,
he is revered as a great and powerful yogi, a
very ascended master in the East. So I'd love to
hear what you have to say about this.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
Again, it's very interesting that and telling that Yeshua disappears
from historical evidence for the formative years of his life.
If you look at what the agenda was behind that,
Yeshuwah was meant to be this pure vessel, the only
son of God, right, and so you have to maintain

(01:07:58):
the image of purity.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
He was in that way. He was born all knowing,
you know, he was just born this way. This is
not true.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Yeshua was an ascended master. He was extremely gifted as
a child.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Of course he was.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
We already have we have written record of him being,
you know, challenging Jewish high priests when he was a child, right,
so we know that. But then when he disappears, he's
doing what all ascended masters do on their path and
journey in life. He was learning. This is a word
that Catholics and Christians and the power structures of Christianity

(01:08:31):
hate to give to Jesus because supposedly this is the
only son of God, this is the Savior.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
He doesn't need to learn anything.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Yes he does, and he learns a lot in those
formative years. Like you said, he was in India, he
went to Egypt. Tom Kenyon does a great job. I
don't know if you've ever read Tom Kenyon Marry the
Magdalen Manuscript.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
I think it's called. It's one of Tom Kenyon's books.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Tom Kenyon talks a lot about Egyptian alchemy and talking
about how Yeshua was trained in Egyptian alchemy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
In the Egyptian.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Schools, Yeshua went to places where there was traditionally enormous
amount of spiritual knowledge, and he learned from those traditions.
Yeshua is also famed to have gone I don't know
if you've ever been to Glastonbury, but I loved going
to Glastonbury. I loved tapping into the energy of avalon
within folkloric tradition in Glastonbury. Is the idea that Yeshua

(01:09:25):
traveled more than once to Glastonbury with his uncle Joseph Arithemia,
who was a very very wealthy merchant. So this idea
of Yeshua coming from a poor family is thrown out
the window if you really start.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
To study the master.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
He also studied with the scenes. I don't know if
you mentioned that already, but the Acenes were very, very
kind of They were relegated, they weren't part of regular society,
and the Acenes did have some funky customs. But the
scenes were also esteemed spirit rtual leaders, and he studied
with the scenes. Some of his teachings coincide with the

(01:10:05):
teachings of his scenes. And so Yeshuah went around the world,
he traveled.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
He was not poor.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
He came from very very spiritual and powerful people, especially
on his mother's line. His mother also studied in the
temples of Egypt. His grandmother Anna was a very very
powerful woman.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
And so if you really study yeshua the man, you
realize that he was an extraordinary master. But he was
an extraordinary master that also learned, and he learned from
many traditions, and he learned from the spiritual traditions that
came before him, and then he interpreted those traditions, he
embodied those traditions, and then he taught a version of
those traditions in the same way that Buddha. Did you

(01:10:59):
know Buddha, he was prince, he walked out of his castle.
He had to learn what poverty was, He had to
learn what famine was, he had to learn what death was.
He learned, and he only became enlightened after learning.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
You see.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
And so Yeshua went through the same path. And this
doesn't denigrate his path. It makes it more beautiful because
it makes it more human. He was a human contrary
to what Christian power structures want you to believe. He
was a very very powerful master, but he was also
a human. He was also a human with fears. He
was also a human that had his own contradictions. He

(01:11:36):
was a human like all of us. An ascended master,
but a human also, And that part is left out
in a lot of teachings of Christianity. But when I
went to Glastonbury, I just love, you know, I love
how traditions that are thousands of years old they are
kept no matter how much these power structures try to
erase them. The stories are told, and they are told,

(01:11:57):
and they're told, and they're told generation after generation, and
this knowledge is retained regardless of if the books are burned,
because that's what the Catholic Church did, That's what Christianity did.
It went through every place where there were spiritual traditions
on the planet. Wherever it touched, it burned things, It
burned women, it burned things, it killed people. There was

(01:12:18):
just an enormous amount of destruction. And the destruction was
done on purpose to erase the spiritual traditions and the
knowledge that were already existent, the very spiritual traditions that
Yeshua himself learned from. So you know, when you really
start to see the whole complexity of the story, I
want to give a little bit of a detail. There's
a cathedral in I think it's in Glastonbury. Yes, it's

(01:12:42):
in Glastonbury. I don't remember the name of the cathedral.
But it burned. There's only ruins and I went to
look at it and it was amazing because on one
of the doorways there is the depicted the life of
Yeshua throughout the various scenes. It's a Protestant an Early
product church, but in Glastonbury. And if you look at

(01:13:02):
the scenes depicting the life of Jesus, there's one interesting
image that I took a picture of because I just
had to look at it. It was a picture of
his birth. He was not depicted as being born in
a manger in you know, this poor poor thing. No,
he was depicted being born to marry on top of
a four post bed. And our guide when we did

(01:13:25):
that that trip, she was really astute because she said,
you know, look at this image here, and I was like,
I'm looking at it, and I'm like, what is this?
This is Yeshua's birth scene. He's do you see what
this is. It's a bed. It's a four post bed.
Four post peds at that time only existed to really
rich people in royalty. And so it's really interesting that

(01:13:47):
in every corner of the planet you can find the
true story of Yeshua's life, even in institutions like the
church for example. You know, like they weren't able to
bury everything. They weren't able to bury the whole story.
And you can find those clues if you just look
for them. And so I thought that image of yes,
it was birth instead of being in a manger with animals,

(01:14:10):
it was he was he was born basically in a
bed that was fit for a royal.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
It's just it's very telling to me.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
But but yeah, going back to your question, he traveled
a lot and he learned a lot and that's what
made him the master that he was.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
And the thing from my understanding is that all of
these ascended masters are examples of what we can do.
That's what they're here to do. They're here to show
everybody else that this is possible. And they come in
different flavors because not everyone's going to want to follow
Buddha or want to follow Jesus, or want to follow

(01:14:45):
you know, Yoga Nanda, want to follow Baba Jee or
want to follow you know, Quadjin or any of these
masters or Vishnu or whoever they are, they all have
a place in what we're trying to show humanity. Wake
humanity up to understand that the power is within you
to give you the power that like and Yeshua said it,

(01:15:08):
everything I can do, you can do and more. Yeah,
and yeah it is. And that is such a powerful
statement that if you can get through your own programming
and your own stuff that you've been kind of hampered
with throughout your life, then you start to awaken in
a big, big way.

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
Absolutely, and I absolutely agree with you. You don't have to,
you know, follow Yeshua or There are so many different
masters on this planet, but they all come with the
same fundamental.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
If you look at all the ascended.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Masters, the truly ascended masters, not the ones that pretend
to be ascended masters. I'm talking about truly pure ascended masters,
they all have the same message. They are all living
examples of the potential of humans, the potential of consciousness,
and they're all just showing the way they're leading the path.
They're like ten steps ahead of us, leading us down

(01:16:03):
a path of something that we ourselves can do. And
this is this is the hallmark of great masters. The
hallmark of great masters is showing you the potential that
you have inside of you, helping you uncover that potential.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
This is very different from like guru culture or any
type of guru culture where the master exists and then
there's all these people below that master and they have
to worship the master and cater to the master. This
is not guru culture. Ascended masters are not a part
of guru culture. They are part of a different understanding, right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Right, yeah, yeah, the idea of guru. I like you
that you use the term guru culture because every at
least every any every master that I've studied in that
in that guru line that he is the guru. The
true ones all say, no, child, you you are you you,

(01:16:56):
This is what your problem is. This is where you
need to adjust. You can get here too. They might
be born with a higher level of abilities than we are,
just like you and I could both play basketball, but
neither you or I or Michael Jordan. There's an inherent
talent that he was born with, but we're all capable

(01:17:19):
of doing the same motions, but not at the level
that he was able to do it at Yah. And
same thing goes with ascended masters as spiritual masters who
are walking. If you if you're following someone who is
a master quote unquote or a guru and they are
the only you can never achieve what they've achieved, you

(01:17:40):
should probably look into that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
Oh yeah, and that's that's really really important. And this
is why you know, I like to to to kind
of differentiate between guru culture and true gurus or masters.
I don't even like to call them gurus because I
think the word has been so distorted so and especially now,
you know, talking about all the institutions that are crumbling.

(01:18:04):
Guru culture is crumbling too, and it's because there are
many gurus around the world that were never gurus to
begin with. They were mostly not all men, but there's
been a lot of men masters that have been falling
and have been jailed for you know, sexual predation on
their followers, all kinds of immoral things. And this was

(01:18:25):
happening because they were never true masters to begin with.
They were just in that position trying to feed their egos.
And so I love the distinction that you're making here.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
This is very true.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
And I say this always to my clients and my
audience all the time. If you see a master or
a guru that is kind of incentivizing dependency on them,
that is, in any way, shape or form talking to
you as if you were powerless and you can only
be saved through them, run the other way. You literally
run the other way, because that's not the type of

(01:18:58):
master that is meant to teach in these energies. That's
just not the type of And we've seen this all
over the world, you know, from the stories of you know,
John of God being in jail, and you know bikram Yoga,
the whole shenanigans with Bickram and all. I mean, there
are example after example after example of really corrupted people

(01:19:21):
that were in power and that just abuse to their
followers and guess what, all that's coming to the light
and all that's being disintegrated because that was not of
the light either. So that is an important distinction to make.
There are ascended masters on this planet, for sure, but
those ascended masters, the true ones, will always be teaching

(01:19:41):
you that you could get that same level. You can
go through that evolution, you can walk this path, you
can find the kingdom of heaven within you. And so
it's a very different talk to the guru culture of
you know, kind of cultivating dependency, and that's important.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
Not a Netflix do yeah, not a Netflix documentary essentially exactly. Yeah,
the other gurus are Netflix documentaries. They're fascinating to watch.
I watch all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
But it's the hard there's.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
These Yeah, you look at them and it's just like,
why didn't you see it? Why didn't you see it?
And I'm I'm not sure about you. But even even
what I do, there's people who you know, are starting
to put that energy onto me, and I'm sure they
do it to you as well. And I'm the first
to go no, no, no, m M. That is not
what we're doing here. You are the way. You have

(01:20:38):
the responsibility to find your path. If whatever I am
doing can help you find your you know great, because
I'm still on the path as well. I'm still trying
to learn myself. Hey, we're all we're all walking the path.
There's no one comes into this planet perfect, and we're
all learning even to the day we die. You know.

(01:20:59):
You might be a man, and I use Michael Jordan
all the time as an example, but he was learning
to the day he stopped playing basketball about the game.
No matter how amazing he was, no matter how perfect
he understood the game, he was still learning because the
game changes constantly. We'll be right back after a word

(01:21:21):
from our sponsor, and now back to the show. You know,
because the game at twenty three is a lot different
at thirty seven for him physically, so he had to change,
he had to learn and a couple of things. So, Christina,
I want to ask you a few questions. Ask all

(01:21:43):
my guests, what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
I think the quickest answer to that is for me fulfilling,
living a fulfilled life is really connecting to that highest
path of my soul, living that highest path of my soul,
whatever that is, whatever, whatever that is, I'm in that
energy of whatever the highest path.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
Of my soul is. I will align to that path.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
Whether that path takes me through pain, whether that path
takes me through through you know, twists and turns that
the human avatar doesn't want to go on.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
I'm going to go on that path, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
And again I use the example of Yeshua you know,
like people don't talk about this a lot, but when
Yeshivah was going towards Jerusalem, he knew exactly what was
going to happen to him, and he kept walking. He
kept going because that was his highest path and he
knew it, even though he could have doubts, he could
have fears, but that was his highest path and he
went towards his destiny. And I want to do the
same thing. I don't care where my highest path goes.

(01:22:37):
I just want to make sure that my avatar, that
my human self and that my mind is aligned with
that soul and aligned with that highest path, and it
just leads me there. That's That's what I would consider
a fulfilling life.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
If you had a chance to go back in time
and talk to little Christina, what advice would you give her.

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
I would probably just say to her very very early
that there's nothing wrong with her, and that's all good.
That's all good, there's nothing wrong with her, that she
could be free and that she could play, and that
she doesn't have to take on the responsibilities that she
thinks she does, because I think a lot of us
that come from trauma we take on those adult responsibilities

(01:23:17):
when we're really really children, and then we assume those
responsibilities for the rest of our lives and kind of
lose our childhood a little bit. So I would go
back and I would say, hey, you know, like I've
got this. You can go play, you can go relax,
you can go have fun, you can go giggle. You
don't need to do adult things. You don't need to
take responsibility, you don't need to, you know, like reassure her,

(01:23:39):
reassure her, take that, like I'm connecting to her now,
And there was just a lot of us just have that.
Our child selves are so loaded, they're carrying so much
weight when they should be free. So I take that
weight off and I'd let her go play.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
How do you define God or source energy?

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
I can't really define it. That's so hard, that's such
a hard question. It's where I come from, It's who
I am. It's at the core of everything. It's at
it's everything. It's literally everything and the space between everything.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
Enough, right, what is literally?

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
Uh? To me?

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
Love and source are the same thing?

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
So that's those are those are synonyms?

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:24:26):
This is just such a this plane of existence there,
there's a waiting list to come here because this is
a prized, prized way for the soul to evolve.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
It's a very rare type of reality being incarnated in
physical matter, and so it's very prized by the soul.
And so the purpose of life to me is just
to come down here and experience life, experience evolution, your
experience your soul through a different way of evolving, through
a different prism. And sometimes it involves pain, and sometimes

(01:24:58):
it involves happiness, involves complex things, but it's all worth
it at the end. It's all worth it at the end.
And our purpose to me is only found usually at
the end of life, when you can look back and
you could say, oh, that's why I came down here,
I can now see, you know, I can now see.
I don't know what it is right now, but I'm

(01:25:20):
going to know when I'm about ready to transition, and
I know it's going to be amazing. So for right now,
I just I just, you know, have fun while I'm
down here, and I continue to evolve and I continue
to enjoy, and I continue to experience experience beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
And where can people find out more about you and
everything you're and what you're doing in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
Yeah, so usually people find me on my YouTube channel.
I have a large YouTube channel with hundreds of videos.
That's usually where people find me. So you can just
look up Christina Lopes on YouTube you can easily find me.
You can also look me up on my website Christina
Loopes dot com or Christina Dashlopes dot com. You can
find me there too. You can find me on social media. Yeah,
I'm working with a lot of I have a private community,

(01:26:01):
so a lot of people reach me also and go
into the private community. It's the only place where I
do live coaching, So got a lot going on retreats.
I do retreats also, so once people get introduced to
the videos, once they come on the website, they join
our email list, they start to kind of, you know,
absorb all of the stuff that we're doing. They'll usually

(01:26:22):
either want to join our community or maybe come on
a retreat with us.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
So that's that's what that's what we've been up to.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
And do you have any party messages for the audience.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
I think we had a long conversation, right Alex.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
I feel like, you know, like I feel like the
parting words maybe that I always have for people is,
you know, like, even if you're feeling like life is
really challenging, or you're really feeling unease with all that's
happening in the world, just always remember that this is
temporary and that there is a new reality emerging on
this planet, and that you can choose to be a

(01:26:53):
part of that reality. You can choose to leave behind
the drama, you can choose to leave behind the suffering.
You can choose to leave that behind and kind of
go on a different get on a different boat, right
And everybody has the capacity to do that, And even
if you feel like you don't have the tools right now,
there's always help available. You know, there's Alex out there
with all those videos.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
You can look me up. There's all my videos, and there's.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
So many people out there who are assisting you to
you know, help you heal your trauma and help you
awaken and help you just live a more fulfilling life.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
So you know, keep going.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Christina, it has been such a pleasure and honor speaking
to you today. Thank you so much for being on
the show and for all the work you're doing to
awaken the planet. So I appreciate you many.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Thank you, and well, Alex, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
I like to thank Christina so much for coming on
the show and sharing her knowledge and wisdom with all
of us. If you want to get links to anything
we spoke about in this episode, head over to the
show notes at next level soul dot com. Forward slash
for seven seven Now. If this conversation stirred something in you,
there's more waiting. You can listen to this episode completely
commercial free on Next level Soul TV's app where soul

(01:28:03):
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Begin your awakening at next levelsoul dot tv. Thank you
so much for listening. As I always say trust the journey.
It's there to teach you. I'll see you next time.

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