BONUS MONDAYS: DEATHBED VISIONS: 12 Stages of DEATH - What REALLY Happens As Love Ones DIE & PASS ON! with Julie Ryan

Psychic and Medical Intuitive Julie Ryan can sense what medical conditions and illnesses a person has and facilitate energetic healings. She can communicate with spirits, both alive and dead. Julie can scan animals, access people’s past lives, and she can tell how close to death someone is. Her book Angelic Attendants: What Really Happens As We Transition From This Life Into The Next describes a series of events that involves angels, multitudes of deceased family and friends, the spirits of deceased pets, and countless serendipitous and miraculous moments. Julie’s Angel Messages® books are picture books that have angels answering kids’ tough questions. Each week, Julie scans callers on her 'Ask Julie Ryan' nationally syndicated radio show and international podcast. Julie is a businesswoman, an inventor, an author, a radio show host, a podcaster, and a serial entrepreneur. Her surgical device inventions are sold globally, and she has founded nine companies in five different industries. Julie’s Psychic and Medical Intuitive skills are learned.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Now today on the show, we have psychic and medical
intuitive Julie Ryan, and as a medical intuitive, she is
able to medically scan your body for whatever is going
wrong and send you to the proper doctors or diagnosis

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is to help you. She also talks to people on
the other side. She talks about past lives, helps people
prepare for death, and so much more. It is a
fascinating conversation and her perspective on what is happening as
you die is pretty remarkable. I think you're going to

(01:48):
be pretty inspired. So let's dive in. I'd like to
welcome to the show, Julie Ryan. How are you doing, Julie,
I'm wonderful. Thanks so much for having me. Thank you
so much for coming on the show, my dear, I
really really appreciate it. You have been doing some very
interesting work in your life, and we're here to kind
of demystify a few things that people are terrified of.

(02:12):
And that's what I kind of do on the show.
And as they say, everybody wants to go to heaven,
but just not now. Good way to put it. Everybody
wants to go, No I got I got a spoiler
alert for you.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Everybody go eventually, everybody goes to heaven.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Exactly, but nobody wants to go right this second. So
uh so, my first question to you, my dear, how
did you start this journey of the work that you're doing. Well.
I'm a businesswoman.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
I'm a serah entrepreneur who's founded nine companies in five industries,
and I am an inventor of surgical devices sold throughout
the world, former manufacturer, and so I tell people I'm
a busys this woman who learned how to do woo woo,
and I'm a buffet of psychicness.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
And all of this is learned, Alex. Everybody has the ability.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
I teach people all over the world how to do
the stuff that I do. Everybody has the ability. It's
just learning how to do it and then enhancing our
natural abilities and practicing. So how it all started was,
I had a friend thirty years ago give me a
book called Hans called Anatomy of the Spirit by Carolyn Mace,

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who called herself a medical intuitive, and I thought, what
the heck is that? And so I read her book
because I was inventing surgical devices and was in the
hospital supply industry for thirty years, and so I read
her book and I wanted to know more. And back
then we didn't have the Internet yet, So I did
the old fashioned thing, Alex and I went to a bookstore.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
I went to Barnes and Noble. Stop Barnes and what
Barnes and Noble.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I'm dating myself, And because I wanted to see what
else was available on this topic, and I found a
book called Hands of Light by Barbara Brennan, who is
a former NASA physicist who parlayed very complex quantum physics
principles into understandable English for me, for the lay person,

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the non scientific mind.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
And I called her school.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
She had school, and I asked if anybody was teaching
this stuff in my area, and sure enough there was.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
So that that's how my journey started.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
And really where it truly began was I saw Shirley
McLain on Oprah decades probably forty years ago. Oh yeah,
and she was talking about the spirit stuff, and I thought, okay,
And then fast forward ten years.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
And I get that book.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
And so I think the initial seeds were laid by
Shirley McClain.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
And also I was born.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
And raised Catholic, and little Catholic children are taught about
guardian angels and saints and the Holy Spirit and stuff
like that. So that's, you know, that's a foundation that
was laid initially, and then Charlene McLain and then the
two books that I just mentioned, and here I am
all these years later.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
She really was a trail blazer in so many ways.
Because she was she had the fame to bring attention
to something. I remember when I was growing up, I
had heard, you know, there was all the whispers into
jokes and the things talked about, Oh she's past lives.
Oh my god, she's lost her mind. She really took
a big hit for coming out and doing what she did.

(05:39):
It's pretty remarkable and she I don't think she gets
enough credit for being that trailblazer of talking about spirit
the spirit world and past lives and things like that
and a very public way in the Western world. No less,
I agree. Now you were You mentioned a little bit
about quantum physics, and I always love when physics meets

(06:01):
spirituality and how that combined. What were some of those
basic understandings did you learn from that book? And can
you say the title of the book, well, more time
for everybody?

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yes, hands of Light, Okay, hands of Light. What she
did was she used Barbara Brennan, this formerness. The physicists
used very complex quantum physics principles to facilitate energetic healing.
So it's about what we think we attract. And what

(06:32):
I have learned over all these years of working with
tens of thousands of people around the world is our
heads are like big satellite dishes alex and they receive
and they transmit frequencies.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
So whenever we want to get in.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Touch with a spirit, whether it's attached to a body
or not, because we're all spirits attached to a body
having a human experience, we've all heard that term before
and it's a great description I think of what's going on.
But in order to get in touch with any spirit,
you just think of them and then it tunes our
satellite dish head to their frequency, because every spirit has

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a frequency that they keep throughout all of their lives.
So it's like tuning to a radio station. And then
you have like a two way radio that is available
and we can communicate and you don't have to have
known them before.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Who do you want to talk to? I want to
talk to Elvis or Moses.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Or Tote of Arc or whomever. It doesn't matter. You
just think of them and that immediately turns your satellite
dish head to them. So that's what I use in
all of my medical, intuitive and energy healing work that
I do, because I connect into the person's spirit and
then it's like I'm a human MRI. I can see

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in my mind's eye broken bones, torn ligaments, fial infections,
bacterial infections, cancer. Just got a phone with a client
who has been suffering for years and years and years
and years, and nobody's figured out out that she's got
mold toxicity.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
She's got a bad mold problem in her home.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Wow, And I got her on my radar. Her whole
body is inside her energy field is covered in molded
was so thick galx that it was like I was
cutting it with a pair of er scissors to get
through it. And she is so sick, she's got lesions
on her brain. But the doctors are saying, it's not MS,

(08:26):
it's not this, it's not that we don't know. We
want to give you an anti anxiety medicine. She should mean
an anti anxiety medicine. She needs to, you know, detox
from the mold and find someplace else to live.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Well, let me ask you, it's interesting that you come
from the medical supply field, so you're essentially in the
medical field, and then all of a sudden You're like,
you know what, guys, I'm going to be an intuitive
medical intuitive. I have to believe that your colleagues when
you went public with this must have had it wasn't

(08:59):
a wildly accepted at the moment that you came out
with it, especially at the time you did, so I'm assuming,
so please correct me if I'm wrong. But was it
like that? And how did you deal with that? Well?

Speaker 2 (09:11):
I first came out of the closet, out of the
woo woo closet or into the woo woo closet, whatever,
bye bye with my book Angelica Tendance, and I talk
about what happens as somebody's dying and how we're surrounded
by angels and deceased loved ones, the spirits of diseased pets.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
And you are absolutely right.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
It took me several years to get enough golden ovary
courage to do that. You know, guys have breast balls,
girls have golden ovaries.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Obviously, Obviously, I thought, oh my god, people are just
gonna think I'm nuts.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
And the thing that really got me over that hurdle,
Alex was I was lecturing at a business conference of
c SWEDE executives, primarily men in Austin, Texas. And at
the end I had just put my ask Julie Ryan
dot COM's sight up, but I thought, oh.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
We go here, here we go. We'll be right back
after a word from our sponsor, and now back to
the show. So after my talk, this guy comes up
to me.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
He's got his iPad open and it's got asked Julie
Ryan dot com on there in my picture and.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
He says this is you.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
And I want to say, duh, yeah, that's my pictures.
And I thought, oh, here we go. And he said
I'm really interested in knowing more. Can we sit together
at lunch? And I said sure, And inside my head
I'm thinking I'm just gonna get pummeled throughout the whole
lunch hour. Well fast forward, I'm at a table of

(10:40):
eight with seven guy sea sweet men. We didn't talk
about business at all. We talked about woo woo the
whole time. They were fascinated. They wanted to know more.
They wanted to know how does this work? What can
you see? What's going on? And I thought, okay, this
is my sign from God, you know, move forward, continue

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and everything's going to be fine. And that's that's that
happened probably five or six years ago.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
And I'll tell you what the same thing happened to
me when I opened up this this woo woo kind
of show and I was afraid of people and all
of a sudden people coming out of the woodwork, Like,
so channels, how does that work? Really? Your death experiences
really like can you tell me more? Fascinating? Fascinating?

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, And everybody has the ability to do that because
we all have had experiences, Alex where we think, oh my.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Gosh, it's such a coincidence.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
I was just thinking of you this morning, and you
call me, or you text me, or you email me,
or I run into you somewhere, and you think, oh,
what a coincidence. There's no coincidence there. That's your satellite
dish head connecting with their frequency and you guys are
in sync. And that's how it works in it's it's
super easy to do what you know what to do.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Now, you want a book about what happens after you
you pass, and you talk about the twelve phases of transition.
I've spoken a lot to a lot of near death experiencers,
and I've heard a lot of different stories, but generally speaking,
there are everyone's different, but there are certain points that
I keep hearing again in the gear, Can you explain

(12:26):
to the audience what your twelve twelve transitions as you
know it are sure?

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Mine is what happens as we're dying, as we're transitioning. Okay,
there's lots of information out there about the afterlife and
about near death experiences, but not much about what happens
as we're dying.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
And people are so afraid.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Of that because we've seen movies like Ghost you know,
where there's evil spirits coming to get you. There are
no evil spirits. All spirits are pure love. That's let's establish.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
It's a good movie, though I do enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, big movie, but you know it's it's they're trying
to elicit an emotional response.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
You need, you do need, you need some sort of
bad guy else the movie doesn't work exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
So what I see in my mind's eye, Alex, is
what I call the twelve phases of transition, and it's
a sequence of events that involve angels, the spirits of
deceased loved ones, and the spirits of deceased pets that
form a horseshoe. They start out in a circle, they
form a horseshoe opens up into a straight line as

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the person is getting closer to departing. And so I
can scan anybody anywhere in the world and instantly tell
you what phase of transition they're in, and it gives
us information to help us bring in family, bring in
loved ones. People take time off work, they travel vast
distances to be with loved ones at the end of

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their lives because they want to be there to say goodbye.
This really helps. It also helps comfort people because they understand, Okay,
my grandparents are there, I'm describing to them. I had
somebody recently where I said, okay, there's all these family
members around your mother, but there's also a goat. Does

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that with the dogs and the cats and stuff?

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Does that beat anything to you?

Speaker 2 (14:19):
And she said, yeah, she had a pet goat when
she was a child. Well, that's random, but the goat
spirit was there. So people find that very comforting that
that those transition phases happen.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Okay, so explain to me. So when you're saying transitions
are is it the transitions as they're dying, meaning that
they're still alive, they haven't completely transitioned over yet, and
these are the phases before they actually die. Correct. Okay,
so can you talk a little bit about oz R.
So it's they're starting to they're coming around, They're like, okay,

(14:55):
we're getting ready for We're getting ready. And is there
a time period or is it like is it a
couple days before or it could be an hour, a
few minutes before I was at work.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Well, everybody goes through the twelve phases of transition. Time
doesn't exist in the spirit world times of human creation.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
I'm sure you've heard that before, and.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
So everybody goes through the twelve phases regardless of how
they die. So the twelve phases can happen instantly like
in the case of a homicide or suicide. They can
last over days, weeks, months, even years. I have a
gal that called into my show for two years. Her
father was in phase eleven of twelve for two years.
So everybody does it based on what their spirit wants

(15:39):
to explore and experience. Interesting point about the twelve phases
two is there is now university based research that corroborates
everything I say from the spiritual standpoint, because the research
shows Alex that ninety plus percent of people at the
end of life seat report seeing their to cease loved

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ones in the spirits of deceased pets, either envisions or
dreams as they're approaching deatue. So I love it when
science catches up with will Woo because Woo Woo's.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Been around a whole lot longer. Okay, So can you
just kin give like a quick like a quick list
of these twelve transitions and then it will jump into
a few of them.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Sure, So, how I can tell if somebody is in
one of the phases of transition is the spirit exits
the body through the top of the head and it
hangs on attached to the top of the head. It
looks like a speech bubble in a cartoon that you'd see.
And then the first spirit that comes in is always
the maternal line. So if the person who's dying mother

(16:44):
is deceased, it'll be the mother that comes in first.
If she's still alive, it'll be her mother she's If
the maternal grandma's still alive, it'll be the maternal grandmother's mother.
It's always on the maternal line. That's the first person.
First spirit that comes in that surprised me. I thought
it'd be like an angel, or maybe Jesus or God

(17:06):
had like an air traffic control tower that was regulating
all of this, you know here on earth.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
And then the paternal spirit comes in. And again it's
always on the maternal side. So if your dad is
still alive, it's going to be your maternal grandfather who's
gonna show up. It's always on the maternal line and
so forth. And then what happens is they call in
these angels and Catholic girl, you know, angels look to

(17:35):
me like they look like in the statues, because that's
how I was taught.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
They appear.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Spirits are going to appear to us in a way
that it makes sense to us, so we can recognize them.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
These are big old.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Angels, Alex. They're like six semp feet tall. They got
big wigs the way down the rope belt, the whole
nine yards.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Is that what angels really look like? Who knows?

Speaker 2 (17:57):
That's how they appear to me, so I can reckon
is what the energy is. And then but as we
get closer to death, that circle opens up into a horseshoe,
and then more spirits of deceased loved ones and friends
and family show up than about fayse seven ish. Phase

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eight ish that's when the pets show up and the
pet spirits and it can be dogs, cats, snakes, whatever,
farm animals.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
It's hilarious. I'll see, did your grandmother grow up on
a farm or does she live on a farm now?
And we'll say no, but she grew up on a farm.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
I'll say, yeah, I know. You know there's cows and
ducks and.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Jay so on India. There might be a pet elephant
the show, so there might be you just never know,
or a panther or something, sir exactly, you know, you
never know.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
But about halfway through Alex, an interesting phenomenon occurs and
it's two extra angels show up and they're on either
side of this spirit bubble on top of the person's head.
Those near death ors that you talk about, a lot
of them talk about going through the tunnel. That's what's happening.
That spirit exits, goes through the tunnel and hangs on

(19:10):
to the top of the head. So about phase nine,
between phase nine and phase ten, those angels on either
side of the spirit bubble. Their wings start to move,
and the movement of the wings reminds me of a
giant owl's wings. I've ever seen a documentary on a
giant owl. You know, the wings are slow and rhythmic,

(19:32):
and they're silent, but they you can almost feel the
drag when you watch them. And that movement of those
angels wings creates a vortex above the person's spirit bubble
above their head. And the first time I saw this
was when my own mother was dying, and that's what
I talk about in my book, and I thought, oh

(19:53):
my god, am I hallucinating?

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Am I having a hot flash? What is this?

Speaker 2 (19:58):
But I knew that it would be somehow connected with
the spirit disconnecting from the body.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
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Speaker 2 (20:15):
So that goes on, and then what happens is phase eleven.
The spirit disconnects from the body. The angels has scuirt
this spirit to heaven. It's always up and to the right.
And I was thought, okay, what's up with the always
up and to the right. And I talked to a
engineer at a conference where I spoke recently, and he said, well, yeah.

(20:39):
I think he was a physicist too. He said, you know,
when you're in a vortex and you're unscrewing something and
something's coming up, it's gonna come out and go to
the right as it comes out of the vortex. I said, well, duh,
that makes sense. One other really interesting point. When I

(20:59):
was searching a few things for my book, Angelic Attendance,
I just was led to do an Internet search on
owl wing vortex. Come to find out, there's this thing
called the wing tip vortex that everything that flies, whether
it be an animal, a bug, bird, a plane, a jet,

(21:23):
a kite, there are these vortices that form that cause lift,
causes upward lift. You google wingtip vortex you will see tens,
if not hundreds of thousands of aeronautical engineering drawings and
articles about the wingtip vortex. So I thought it was

(21:43):
amazing that here's this movement of these angel wings in
the spirit world that's affecting something in our physical world
that is a real thing in science can explain it,
and it causes the upward lift. I thought that was remarkable,
very cool. So then what are the last few stages

(22:03):
faced twelve? Is the angels escort? The person's spirit to heaven.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
They open the door. Now, this is where the near
death experience can change depending on near death meaning I have
to come back. But the experience can change based upon
the person's beliefs, the person's because it's it's I think
what you're talking about is full transition. What I'm talking
about is near death, and near death experiences are a
little bit more. The production value could be a little

(22:31):
bit different than your normal, the normal transition. I love
the way we talk about this the normal, because the
normal transitions means that this is you're going through. But
in near death experiences, like I said, Jesus shows up,
Buddha shows up, Shiva shows up, Grandpa shows up, your
third grade teacher shows up. It all depends that is

(22:52):
not in a normal transitional phase, whether that be quickly
like in a car accident, or in you know, dying
of old age or an illness slower process, This all
happens at that time. Is that a fair statement? Well?

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, and as I mentioned earlier, time doesn't exist in
the spirit world.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Sure, so these spaces.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Of transition can happen instantly or they can take days, weeks, months, years.
My understanding of the ND with talking with people and
reading about it and all of that, and my understanding
and working with all these thousands of people and thousands
of spirits over the years, is that our spirit decides

(23:34):
all of this. We decide where we go, when we go,
how we go, who's with us or not when we go,
what the circumstances are, and the nd that's part of
what that spirit wants to explore. They want to explore
that feeling of bliss, of total love, of oh my gosh,

(23:55):
there really isn't anything to be afraid of, and that
spirit wants to exo Okay, I've got that. Now I'm
going to come back and live my life and do
what with that information, because it's all up to our spirit.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Our spirit is.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
The one that decides whatever's going to happen. I use
the analogy a lot. If somebody's shot with a gun, well,
we think, okay, that was the murderer. Yeah, the murderer
shot the gun. But the person who died it was
their spirit's prerogative to die from that gun shot. Because

(24:30):
there are plenty of people that get shot that don't die.
So it's always the spirit's prerogative. And it's been my
experience that then ND is part of that spirit's prerogative.
They want to explore and experience that phase and then
come back and take that information and implement it into
their lives.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Now, the phase that you're talking about, you said earlier
like this one client of yours, the father was a grandfather,
was in phase eleven for two years, so you can
sense that. You can just go there and you're like, oh,
they seem to be in phase eleven because X, X
and Y are there and this is the next step.

(25:12):
But how long that takes is relative to everybody's experience.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
It's all predicated on what the spirit wants to experience
of that person. So this gentleman was the father of
a caller into my show and he had Alzheimer's. And
whenever I'm helping somebody transition, whether it be the person themselves,
which I have many times, or it's a family member

(25:38):
who's called and I'm working with the family, I always
ask three questions, Alex, are you ready to go?

Speaker 1 (25:46):
What do you need?

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Are you in pain? And they'll answer me. I'm asking
them telepathically even if they can't communicate anymore to their families,
and I'll get a yes. Or no, I'm ready to go.
Are you in pain? Yeah, sir, no, get that answer.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
What do you need? That runs the gamut. It can
be well, big mac would be nice, chocolate, I need.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
A sweater, I need magazine, I need my may I
share my favorite?

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah? Please please?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Uh. This was a dear friend of mine and her
father was taken off the VENTI later and I thought
he'd go right away. Well it's like a week later
and he's still hanging out. And he kept saying when
I asked him when he needed kept saying, I need
her to file my quarterly estimated taxes. He said really,

(26:39):
he said, yeah, I really do.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
So finally she was so exasperated. Her name's Angela. Angela
called me. She goes, what the heck? What does he
need to go? So I'm talking to him.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
It's like, you know, a psychic long distance cofference call here.
And he said, I need her to file my quarterly
estimated taxes and she just said, okay, for god sakes,
where are they? He said, they're in my desk in
my bedroom, middle drawer on the left. I said, just
go to his house see if they're there.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Put him in a mailbox. What have you got to
lose at this point, she did just that.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
They were exactly where he told us they were going
to be alex. She filed, she put him in the mailbox,
went back to the hospital.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
He died a few hours later.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Now fast forward, she was the executive of executor of
his estate, and by the taxes being filed on the
day that he died, it saved her so much headache
down the road when.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
She was trying to settle his estate.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
So he wanted her to file his taxes. That check
was made out, there was a stamp on the envelope.
All she needed to do was drop it in the box.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Wow, isn't that wild? Julie. I have to ask you, so,
when was the first time you were witnessed to this
or got this from.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
My mother with my own mother when she was in
two thousand and two.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Was someone telling you, hey, Julie, I write this down.
This is phase one, this is fase two, or did
you kind of come up with this terminology?

Speaker 2 (28:08):
No?

Speaker 1 (28:08):
I came up with it because the first.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Time I saw it was with my own mother, and
it was I kind of felt like a schitzo because
here I am grieving my mother and I talk about
that in my book Angelic Attendance. So I'm grieving the
loss of my mother as she's dying. At the same time,
I'm watching all this spiritual stuff happening, and I thought,
all right, and my mother was a principal and a

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teacher before she was at principal, so that was.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Her parting gift to me and to the world.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
So then I helped several other people as they were transitioning,
worked with their families, worked with them, and I kept
seeing the same sequence of events. And then this is
a fun story how this all came about in the
book form. I was with my mentor one day and
she was doing a healing on me. And when I'm

(28:59):
on the sage table and I'm covered in a blankie
and she's doing an energy healing on me, my deceased
loved one spirits line both sides of the table so
I can see him, my parents are there, my grandmother,
my dog even Yeah, it's hilarious. And one day Alex,
this spirit it dressed as a pope, showed up and

(29:20):
I thought, well, this is interesting, so I asked him.
I said, well, who were you? And he said, I'm Clement,
And I said I never heard of a Pope Clement
and he laughed and he said I was number six.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
It's okay. How may I help you?

Speaker 2 (29:34):
And he said, you're supposed to teach a world what
happens when somebody dies, because it's been so bastardized and
people are so afraid. And you know you've seen it,
You've helped many people.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
This is this.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
You need to just teach the world. And I said,
I'm a businesswoman. People are going to think I'm nuts.
I'm not doing that, and he laughed. He said, yeah, yeah, yeah,
just get on with it. So I go to get
in my car to leave a little bit later, and
I just for kicks, I just googled Pope Clement, the
six Alex. Come to find out this guy was in

(30:07):
office during the Black Plague. He's known best known for
his Purse for the Dying and his Purse for the dead.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
I thought, Ryan, you can't make that stuff up, right.
So he's my main spirit guid and he has been around.
He treats me like a Nike ad. He just says,
just do it, just go do it. Oh, yeah, okay,
so that's how it all came about.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
So let's talk a little bit about you just said,
spirit guide. Can you talk a little bit about our
spirit guides and who is guiding us through this adventure
that we're on down here in this physical form from
between spirit guides, angels, relatives, other ancestors, or even just
other you know, spirits, ascended master who might be with

(31:01):
us to help us fulfill the missions that we set
out for ourselves in a lifetime. We all have a
guardian angel that we keep throughout all of our lifetimes,
which I think is right. Also, we have we have
the one, we have one at least one who's with.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Us all of our lifetimes and in between lifetimes.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
So that guardian angel is is like a signed to
us or or we have an agreement with that guardian
angel from this entire this entire time, and they're always
with us at any every time. That's it. And again
you found this out.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
How just by well just from talking with you know,
ten other thousands of spirits.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah exactly, okay, enough, thirty years worth of it. I
don't even know how many got it.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
And I had I had a fun email a couple
of days ago, a gil called into my show and
she want to know her guardian angel's name, and I
got Bartholome you but the angel said, but you can
call me Bart for short if you want, and so
she said fine. So she's like, yeah, I don't know
about that. So she was talking to Barth all of
you and she said, okay, Bart, you know, if you're

(32:09):
that's really your name. I need to have a son,
and I need it fast, she said. She went to
the grocery store within the next hour. In the checkout boy,
she said, is this is a teenage boy? His name Badget,
said Bart. And she said in her email, who names
your kid Bart? And I said, obviously his parents did.
But that was a fast, you know, answer to her request.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
So so we have we have one guardian angel, which
is one guardian angel.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
And one other fun thing about guardian angels is when
I first started talking with them, Alex, they would give
me these names and they'd be like fifteen letters, all consonants,
and I'd say, how am I supposed to pronounce that?
It's either a dead language or a language from a
different reality or something. So he said, can you give
me an American English name with a nickname that I

(32:57):
can pronounce. So now the names are usually way easier,
like Bart or Max or Sam or something like that. So, yes,
we all have a guardian angel, we all have spirit guides.
When I scan somebody and their spirit guides, I will
normally see seven that are behind them in any given moment,

(33:19):
and they all look like a version of father time
to me, picture Dumbledore from the Harry Potter movies, or
Gandalf from the Lord of the Rings movies.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
You know, old man, white hair, white beard.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
And then when we talk to them directly, then they
morph into looking like what they look like in the
lifetime that they live that best correlates with what.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
They're advising on the person on in this lifetime.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
And so there's those all of our deceased loved ones
and friends, not just from this life, but from all
of our lifetimes. And so it's this multitude.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
You know you hear.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
About minions, it's minions and minions of spirits that surround
us that are our supporters and we're all part of.
Some people call it the collective consciousness. I call it source.
So imagine that there's an ocean and you're a drop
of water that goes into the ocean.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
You as a drop of water, are separate as soon
as you go into the ocean, your source. So that's
who it is.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
I believe, based on my experience that these different entities
are a fraction of Source to help our human minds
understand them. Because we don't have a frame of reference
for source as it exists, we don't in human form.
It's hard for us to understand that. But when we

(34:44):
think of Okay, I'm talking to Pope Clement and he's
advising me, Well, it's Source, it's my spirit, it's his spirit,
it's God, it's the angels, it's all my deceased loved
ones and friends all working together communicating to me through
the image of Pope Clement. So it's easier for my

(35:05):
human mind to understand it because that's how we are
raised that you know, you go to experts for information.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Right exactly, and these spirit guides and everyone you've talked
about does you know this for lack of a better word,
Jesus or Buddo or you know whoever you know, a
Yogi or whatever, are these spirits there as well to
kind of guide you through this process and do the

(35:36):
spirit guides and angels and other beings around you kind
of not only guide you through life by giving you
little pats on the side to make sure you stay
on track to what you agreed upon, but do they
also open doors for you opportunities bring this person into
your life when it's time. Kind of like when Pope

(35:56):
Clements showed up and said, hey, this is what you
need to kind of do that that was a little
little nudge at that moment in your life that you
needed to see. Is that spirit, I.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Would say yes to all of the things that you mentioned. Yes,
we are free will is there is not one set
path when we're born. That's not been my experience. My
experience throughout all of these years has been we all
come in to create and then create what.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Well, that's where your free will comes in.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
In the spirit world. There's no writer wrong, there's no
good or bad. It's just an experience, and every experience
expands our spirit. It's what all those past lives are
all about. When I'm working with past life things, with
clients and with people who call into my show, I
will see a semblance of a script that will repeat

(36:51):
throughout multiple lifetimes. Different perspective on the same thing, different place,
different time, different gender, different way, set of circumstances, same
basic script. And an analogy I like to use for
that alex is, think of Hamlet. How many times has
Hamlet been performed since Shakespeare wrote it in sixteen oh two?

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Who knows? Same script? But where was it performed? In
what year? What was happening in the world, in what language?
By home?

Speaker 2 (37:21):
You know, all those variables will create a different perspective
on that same script. And past lives are interesting to
me because the best analogy I've heard for them is
that they're like a strand of pearls. They're all pearls
on the same strand, but they're individual pearls all strung together,

(37:42):
and so each lifetime will explore and experience things, and
then the next lifetime, perhaps we'll look at some of
those same things that we explored and experience from a
different perspective, and then that helps us understand.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
But when you're born into a life, generally you have
a set of skills or abilities that come in with
that life that will lead you in a certain direction, say,
you know, like a perfect example, my ability to communicate
has been probably one of my great gifts throughout my
life as a film director, as a podcaster, as a writer,

(38:20):
as all the things that I've done in my life.
But if I say tomorrow I want to be an
NBA player, It's probably not going to work out so well.
Even if I would have done it at the proper age,
it wasn't something that I would have been able to
achieve with the skill set and the specific skills that
I was born with. So I kind of leaned into
whatever my gifts were as same thing with music, same

(38:43):
thing for intellect, same things for ability to understand quantum physics,
things like that. Would you agree or disagree? I would
disagree with Okay, please.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
I think we all come in with things that we
want to explore and experience, and we all decide where
we're born when we're more and to whom we're born,
in the circumstances into which we're born, so our lives
can have a basic trajectory that will allow us to
explore and experience things. Somebody who's interested in music may

(39:12):
choose to be born to a couple of musicians and
go to Juilliard and then go on from there. Is
that get necessarily a savant on the piano? No, But
when he goes to Juilliard, he's going to be trained
to be a simon. I think Tom Brady is a
great example of that. Tom Brady wasn't even drafted until
what like but was even drafted or was?

Speaker 1 (39:33):
I think he was like like the last round, like
eighth on the last round or something like that. But
if you look at Tom Brady, for everybody listening, tom
Brady's a famous quarterback, arguably the greatest quarterback of all time.
When you see his his test like feel like this audition,
if you will. I was watching it the other day.
It was pretty bad. Wasn't that particularly great or inspiring

(39:57):
or like this kid has the goods? There's nothing to
say that that was going to be. He was going
to become the greatest quarterback ever to play the game,
and play it longer than almost anybody had ever played
it before. But he'd developed those skills along the way.
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

(40:19):
and now back to the show. But those skills were
inside of him that he developed, but he chose to
develop them. Correct.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
I have a communications degree. How did I end up
being an inventor of surgical devices?

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Right? Were you a doctor, No, Or you a nurse?

Speaker 2 (40:37):
No?

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Are you an engineer?

Speaker 2 (40:38):
No? But I can hire really good engineers that can
drop my ideas and plans and then we submit them
and I get them patented in my name.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
So I developed that.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
You know, was it something that I set out to do?

Speaker 1 (40:53):
No?

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Was it something that I was looking to help people?
So I think my coming in what I wanted to
explore was how can I help people from a medical
standpoint from other standpoints? And I've used everything. All the
nine companies I've founded in five different industries all have

(41:14):
served the masses, including the one that I'm doing now
with this medical intuitive and psychic medium stuff.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
The wu wuo stuff that you're this insanity. This is sanity, Julie,
that you're in right now. Hilarious. I know, it's really fun.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
And the funny thing about this, Alex is my consultants
that uh, you know, with home Ile, I'll meet occasionally
and they'll say, well, what.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Are your goals? I don't know, I don't have any
How can you not have goals?

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Did you have business plans in your companies? I said,
every one of them, but this one I don't. I'm
being led and everything shows up at the exact right time,
at the exact right people I need to meet, and
it's been a blast, and it continues to be a blast.
It's the most fun I've had in anything I've ever

(42:03):
done because I'm allowing and not trying to control it
with a business plan.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Well, let me ask you this. Do you believe that
your journey that you've taken up to the point where
you became a medical intuitive, all of that experience in
business and all that helped you, all those skills helped
you launch this business in a way that made it
instantly successful based on the knowledge and experience that you

(42:31):
went through the other way. It's kind of like it
was like building up a set of tools in a
toolbox to get you ready for it because you were
going here. Obviously, this is a place that you were
going to go, and you were It's kind of like
pretestined in your own soul plan and sold blueprint. This
is something you wanted to do, but you had to
go through all this other stuff because oh, you need
to pick up all these other skills along the way.

(42:52):
Is that makes sense? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:53):
And I think all of us can look at our
lives and in a second say Okay, that led to that,
that led to that, that to that. Certainly with the
medical intuitive and energy healing part. I was telling a
client this morning on a call who has bad arthritis,
and I said, when I get somebody on my radar,
that's like the CT scan in my mind's eye or

(43:14):
the MRI. Arthritis looks to me like a kind of
a crunchy, white, crusty substance that reminds me of a
battery that has expired, like in your flashlight. You know,
that white crunchy stuff. And I said to this gal,
I said, that's what it looks like on the screens

(43:35):
in the operating room when a joint is being scoped.
I'm an inventor of orthopedic surgery devices. I've seen bazillions
of those surgeries and watched on the monitor in the
OAR real time. That's what arthritis looks like when they
are scraping it out. So that's my frame of reference.
So perhaps I have things that are going to come

(43:58):
in to me, you know when that it's going to
be a frame of reference based on my life experience.
And then I get crazy ones too, like stem cell
energy looks like a light amber colored gel that reminds
me of dippity doo hair gel when I was a kid,
and then and then DNA healings. When I watched that
DNA looks like a strand of paper that you see

(44:20):
inside a fortune cookie with a fortune written on it. So,
I mean, the analogies that come in are hilarious at times,
but they're they're meant to give us a frame of
reference for this energy healing stuff, and we don't have
a frame of reference for it from our human capacity

(44:40):
at this stage of the game. So it's really been
fun to watch this stuff evolve.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
So when going back to the transition, it's what you happened,
what happened with you and your mother. Would that be
a shared death experience.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
No, it was me witnessing what was happening on the
spiritual side of the equation. And what I've come to
realize now is that when people die, it's heartbreaking.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
I mean, it's just awful.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
For most of us when we're losing a loved one,
and yet there's a glorious component to it.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
So what I find is that when people know.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
About the twelve phases, whether it's as a loved one
is transitioning as they're dying or afterwards, it brings so
much comfort to them, especially during the pandemic when there
were so many people that died alone because their loved
ones weren't allowed in the nursing homes or the hospitals

(45:46):
or wherever they were, and people have agonized over that.
There's so much extra grief that my mom.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Died alone or my dad died alone. Nobody dies alone.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Everybody's surrounded by angels and multitudes of deceased loved ones
and the spirits of deceased pets.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Always. Do you know from your experience, do you understand,
you know what happens after that vortex, what happens after
the twelve transitions? Yeah? Can you tell us a little
bit about that?

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Sure, Again, this is how I perceive it, so other
people may have a different perception of what happens. So
angels escorting up into the right I was going to
call my book angelic escorts, and my son who's adults,
and mom, it sounds like a call girls service.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
You can't name it. Cat cannot is a bad branding,
bad branding. No, that's not gonna work.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
So they escorted him, and then the pearly gates look
like a plasma wall to me, and so that the
person spirit goes through the plasma wall, and the plasma
wall is this brilliant yellowish whitish light, this brilliant like
blinding go through at the plasma wall closes up immediately,

(47:02):
there's no trace that you went through it. And then
as soon as they get there, then the deceased loved
one's spirits are there to welcome them.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
I call that the Welcome to Heaven committee. And they're
all there waiting.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
And I had a client recently.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
We were talking with her.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Deceased dad and he was just saying it was like
a magic trick. He said, all these loved ones spirits
were in the room as I was dying, and I
could see him. And he said, then when I got
to heaven, they were all there. He said, it was
like you know a magician. I'll have the girl in
the box and then he spins the box and the
girl isn't there anymore. He said, it was great, It
was so interesting. And so there's that, and then that's

(47:45):
where their spirit is with all their deceased loved ones
and friends.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Interesting point, there's this.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Procedure that I do this technique that I do. That's
kind of like a dress or rehearsal when people are
afraid to die.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
And I call it the walk to Heaven.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
And I will disconnect my spirit from my body and
I'll get their spirit, and we'll walk through the sand,
We'll walk into the setting sun. We'll walk through this vortex.
We end up at the plasma wall. We go in,
they see their family members, spirits are there and their friends.
Then we come back. I reattach their spirit. I reattach

(48:25):
my own spirit.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
It works every time, Alex. It's so fascinating.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
One hundred percent of the time, it allays their fear.
Most of them are people that have been brought up
in a religion or a culture where you're either gonna
fly if you're good, or you're gonna fry if you've
been back, or maybe you'll fry just for a while
in purgatory, you know, trying to cleanse yourself so that
you can fry.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
None of that exists.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Everybody goes to heaven no matter what.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
All spirits are pure love.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
The snarky personality traits of people stay with the body
when somebody dies, and everybody goes to heaven. Like the
movie All Dogs go to heaven. All people go to
heaven too.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
That's interesting too, because even through my own experience, when
you even talking to people who've talked to other people
or souls on the other side, their personality stay with them.
So if they were kind of you know, like snarky
or funny or crotchety, that kind of sticks with them
a little bit. They'll play that.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
That's a part they play to help their loved ones
who are still in human form understand that that's really them.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Right exactly, because if they're not that, they won't even
understand who it is that's in your experience. The concept
of life reviews and all of these you know, I've
been a counsel of elders, all these ideas I've heard
commonly and near death experiences. The soul does eventually have
to go after the plasma wall. They go through these

(50:01):
ideas to kind of let go over what they went through.
All right, what I do?

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Right?

Speaker 1 (50:04):
How did we learn from this? Where do you want
to go next that kind of conversation or from your experience?
How was it? We'll be right back after a word
from our sponsor, and now back to the show. Yes,
they do.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
It can happen in less than a nanosecond in our understanding.
Once we're in pure spirit form, we're in heaven, which
is non physical. We have all knowledge, we understand everything,
so we can.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Look at that. But it's instant, it's less than instant,
so we get it.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
We're like, okay, when you were mean to your little
brother when he was four and you were five, here's
how it felt to your little brother.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
We get all of that.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
It's not like we sit in a room in a
classroom and you know, watch power point presentations all day.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
That's on January nineteen seventy two. That's a right, body,
Remember when you took the lollipop from the store. Exactly.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Yeah, yeah, So we have universal intelligence. The cool thing
is we have access to universal intelligence when we're still
attached to a body. But because back to our satellite
dishhead principle, all you have to do is think of
something that connects you to that frequency of those thoughts.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
All thoughts have a.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Frequency, like called spirit has a frequency. That's how somebody
like me with no medical background becomes an inventor, no
engineering background. I'm on that frequency of here's a problem.
Here's what I need to do to solve this problem
in the operating room. I'm getting that information downloaded into
my head and that was way before I knew anything

(51:54):
about woo woo.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
We all do it. How do you know how to
fix something? Or how do you know?

Speaker 2 (52:00):
I know how to deal with somebody who's sick? How
do you know how to We all have experiences in
our lives where we're guided. We all are getting those
nudges that you alluded to before, most of them going
to go, you know, unheeded every once in a while.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Well go okay, how did you know how to do that?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
The idea just came into my head, and that's how
it works. The cool thing, too, is that spirits and
angels are never going to interfere with our lives. They're
going to nudge us. They're going to go, okay, hey,
what about this, But they think whatever we're experiencing is
great because there's no right or wrong in the spirit world.

(52:44):
It's just an experience and it expands our spirit everything
we go through. So they're not going to ever interfere,
but they certainly will help us if we ask for
their help.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Right, and the nudges are generally there're small nottions, but
from my understanding, because there are lessons that we have
to learn in our lifetimes, we bring in ideas of
lessons that we're bringing in that we want to explore
in this lifetime. And if we continuously you know, date
the wrong person, don't have a certain let's say perfect

(53:20):
example is like, oh, I keep getting taken advantage of
by the people who I am dating or marrying or
something like that, and these concepts, and it just keeps
getting stronger, like you don't face it, and it just
keeps getting stronger and worse and worse, until finally you
get slapped across the face by the universe if you
will for you to learn this lesson or you carry

(53:43):
it on to the next lifetime to learn the lesson
that you're supposed to learn. Do you want Has any
of that kind of information come into your view viewpoint
doing this work? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (53:53):
I agree with you, And some people would call that karma,
and karma can have a negative connotation to it, like
you know, you are creppy to your wife and your
last life, so you're going to have crappy wives in
this life. But it goes back to that frequency of
those thoughts coming in, So our thoughts create our reality.

(54:14):
If we believe that we're always going to get taken
advantage of, well, guess what, that's the frequency we're putting out.
We live in an attractive universe, We're going to get
more of what we're putting out. And that's a lot
of what I teach too in my classes is how
do we know when we're having a thought that's authentic?

(54:34):
We know is it's either neutral or feels good. How
do we know when we're in fear? Everything that feels
bad it's based in fear. The key is to be
able to discern between what's a real fear, what's a
fake fear. Real fear something's going to harm you or
kill you, change at conditions before it does, get out
of the road, before the truck runs you over right.

(54:54):
Everything else, which is ninety nine point nine percent of
the thoughts we think that feel badly are all based
in an irrational fear that's false, and they're based in
limiting beliefs that are also false that we picked up
along the lines of our childhood, our young adulthood from parents, grandparents, teachers,
the media, whatever. So I do this game called the

(55:18):
two minute Rule. And I actually have a book coming
out in a couple of weeks called the two Minute Rule,
and it here's the gist. When you feel bad, anything
that feels bad, any emotion that feels bad is based
in fear, anger, jealousy, boredom, whatever. When you feel badly,
you just ask, is this going to kill me in
the next two minutes?

Speaker 1 (55:38):
So yes or no? Answer.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
If it's yes, change the conditions, get out of the
road for the truck runs you.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Ever, if it's no, you know it's fake. You're going
to laugh. A lot of the times you're going to go, oh,
for God's sakes.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
No. What that does is it keeps us out.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Of fight or flight number one.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Number two, It keeps our clarity intact, because when we're
in fear, we lose clarity. So it's a really good
technique that works in any situation. It's free, and it's
convenient because it works anywhere your brain is, and your
brain's usually with you wherever you are.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Now, there's another concept you've spoken about before about parallel realities. Yeah,
can you kind of you know, I mean right now,
the quantum the multiverse is a very big concept kind
of hitting the Zeitgeist in a very very big way
with you know, big movies are coming out and quantum
physics are talking about multiverses and parallel realities and things

(56:36):
like that. I'd love to hear your point of view
on it.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Mix My head one explode trying to understand it from
a human perspective.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
My understanding and I.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Get a yes on this that this really does exist
is that there are multiple realities happening concurrently simultaneously. The
best explanation that I've heard about this is recently from
an astrophysicist who said, if you think about a star,

(57:07):
and you'll hear, Okay, it's one hundred billion light years away. Okay, great,
Well we can't even begin to understand what that means.
But he said, if you think of it in that format,
that star was visible in all of those seconds of
all of those hundred billion years, and it's visible now.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
So it's visible in all of those.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Moments simultaneously concurrently, and that's how multiple realities work. That's
the closest thing I've gotten to of an explanation of it.
I think there are certain concepts that we will never
understand in human form, but as soon as we transition

(57:54):
and we're in just pure spirit form or instantly we'll
be like, oh, well, duh, that's how that works, but
we don't have a framework reference for it in our
human capacity at this point.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
Now, those parallel realities are ourselves living other lives. Okay,
that's what.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
I hear, which is like mind boggling, But I also
hear I think of in the Bible it says we're
made in the image and likeness of God. Well, most
people think that means God looks like Dumbledore, you know,
some old man, white hair, white hair, white beard. Now
I believe that it means that we're like God in
spirit form. And so if God is everywhere, all at

(58:37):
the same time, so can we be everywhere, all at
the same time. If we're made in the image and
likeness of God in spirit form. That's kind of my interpretation.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
So then the concept of past lives takes on a
whole new meaning, because you could be living a thousand
lives right now at the same time, all at the
same time, at different points of view. So, in other words,
every feasible way that this conversation could go is happening.

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Where there's one that we're laughing hysterically. There's one that
we're cursing at each other where there's one that we're
doing all sorts of different things. There's one that an
elephant falls into the room for no apparent reason. Like,
there's all these kind of ideas because I've heard of
that concept of like that we're living this life, but
every possible version of it, I don't know. I don't.

(59:33):
I don't resonate with that, OKAYIX.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
What I resonate more with is, Yeah, we're having this
experience together right now, and we're creating it as we go,
and we're also living in nineteen.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Twenty one in you know, all Tacoma.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Washington, working at a you know, working at Boeing or
someplace something like that. And past lives are so much
fun because oftentimes we can get information that we can
corroborate with historic documents online.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
And that happens all the time, and it's so much fun.
And then to what I mentioned before, I'll see we'll
see a semblance of a script that that person was
exploring in that lifetime still happening in this lifetime. Just
from a different perspective, and it makes lots of sense

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when that happens.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
So can you, I mean, we have to talk a
little bit about past lives. We know there's so fun.
So what is your experience with past lives? And does
I mean because I've heard of concept called generational karma
that you bring in through your family line, if you will,
of the soul group that you were dealing with. I've
heard of you obviously, the concept of karma bringing it in,

(01:01:05):
like if you were thrown off of a of a
Mayan temple or an Aztec temple and a sacrifice in
this lifetime, you might be a little shaky at heights
and you have no idea why. There's no logical reason,
whether somebody else was working towers and looks down and
doesn't have a problem with it because they weren't thrown
off and sacrifice on top of an Aztec im pyramid
or something along those liveesch Is that what your experiences?

(01:01:27):
And please just tell me a little bit about your experience.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Oh no, I got stories something yanang about past life stuff.
The past lives are really fun. And of course I'm
an entrepreneur, so I have to do past life skins
differently than everybody else. Most people do hypnosis. Well, I
just want to cut to the chase. Let's get you know,
let's get the information at move on. So I envisioned

(01:01:49):
myself in this endless hallway. It's very narrow walls, very
tall ceilings, so maybe forty foot tall ceilings. Each wall
is lined with vertical and horizontal mirrors, big square twelve
inch by twelve inch type mirrors. Each mirror represents a
different lifetime. And so I'll ask a question, like, you know,
was Alex a communicator in a past life? Are there

(01:02:12):
any past lives that are affecting Alex being a.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Great communicator in this life. The ones that correlate will cut.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
The mirrors will come out from the wall as if
they're on a hydraulic arm.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
And then I'll say, show me the one that correlates
the most. That one will come out the farthest.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
I'll see myself jogging down the hallway and I'll walk
into the mirror.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Oh, you'll walk in, Alis, Oh, I'll walk in.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
It's like I'm walking into a scene in a movie.
It's like Alice going through the looking glass, and I'll
be given where it was when it was what was
going on. It's like I'm watching a movie in my
head and we'll get information. One of my favorite stories
is I was working with a guy who's he's deceased now,

(01:02:55):
but he at the time was the CEO of a
publicly traded, huge company, and he had cancer, and so
he went to know if there were any past lives
that were contributing to this situation.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
So we did the past life in the Hall of
Mirrors thing, and come to find out in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
A past life he was this British admiral who was
in the late seventeen hundreds. He commanded the Atlantic Fleet
and he was best known for some big battle with
the French. Okay, fine, I don't know British naval history. Okay, great,
we get the year, we get his name, we get
his rank, we get all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Everything was online.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
The battle, his name, his rank, head of the Atlantic Fleet,
all of that stuff, and the gist of it. I mean,
that's fun when we get that, But then what's the correlation.
Correlation was he was used to commanding massive amounts of people,
and he was very good at leading, not so good
at receiving. The cancer in this lifetime was forcing him

(01:04:03):
to receive from his wife, from his family, from his doctors,
from his caregivers, and he hated it because he wasn't
in control. So that's how we can take a past
life situation. And that's why I always ask, show me
the one that correlates the most with what's going on
in for instance, in Alex's current life, and then we'll

(01:04:27):
be able to get that connection of Okay, what's he
exploring in this life? And he ended up having a remission,
you know, it was cancer free for several years, and
then it came back with a vengeance and it took
him out.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
But his spirit wanted to explore what it was like
to receive. He did, he was forced to.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
From an illness. He was able to enjoy some more
of his life, and then he was ready to go
to heaven.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Julie, I can keep talking to you for hours. I mean,
this is so much fun. I mean the story. I'm
a storyteller, so these are just wonderful stories that we
can get into. But I'm gonna ask a few questions.
Ask all my guests, what is your definition of living
a good life joy, living a life of joy? What
is your definition of God? Source? And what is the

(01:05:24):
ultimate purpose of life?

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
To live a life of joy and to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Serve others doing it so? And where can people find
out more about you and what you're doing in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Ask Julie Ryan dot com and anybody that's listening that
would like a free copy of my book?

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Just and see.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
I have props Alex like a game show girl Angelica
Tendants what happens as we transition from this life into
the next. Or I have a bunch of children's books
that I've written to the angel Message Is series and
they're darling.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Look at these beautifully illustrated, beauty illustrated darling.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Just got to ask Julie Ryan dot com. Go ask
Julie Page.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Say, hey, I heard John Alex this show. I'd love
a free copy of your book and we'll send you
a digital and an audiobook download for free.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
And thank you for listening. I appreciate that so much.
And I will put that link in the show notes
into the YouTube description as well. And do you have
any final words for our audience.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Everybody can do this stuff, absolutely everybody. It's a matter
of just developing and enhancing the skills that we all
come in with. Everybody has the ability. You're doing it now,
you just don't realize it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Julie, thank you for being on the show. It's been
a ball having you on the show and talking to
you about all of this. And thank you for the
work that you're doing in the world and helping people.
So thank you so much. Thank you too. I want
to thank Julie so much for coming on the show
and sharing her story with all of us. Thank you
so much much, Julie. If you want to get links
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