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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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podcast are those of the guests and do not necessarily
reflect the views or positions of this show, its host,
or any of the companies they represent. Now, today on
the show, we welcome back one of my favorite guests
of all time, Robert Edward Grant. Now, Robert has the
distinct honor of being the first ever in studio conversation

(01:52):
I have in our new Next Level Soul Studios. Now,
Robert and I sat down across from each other and
had a just mind blowing mystical conversation talking about his
other findings in the Great Pyramid, his interactions with UFOs
and aliens are current wars and why and what's happening

(02:15):
with them, and so so so much more. I cannot
wait for you guys to hear it. This one's an
epic one, guys, So sit back, relax, and let's dive in.
Welcome to the show, Robert Edward Grant.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
How you doing, Rob, Such a pleasure to be here
in your studio? What an amazing studio. Basically, thank you
put together here. I'm like really blown away. It's state
of the art.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Thank you, brother, I appreciate it. Man, I'm so excited
to have you here. Man, we've been talking about this
for a while, so this is gonna be a fairly
epic conversation. I have a feeling. So last time you
were on our last episode, did okay? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, it was a million views? Probably all the platforms
has got to be over a million.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, I think at this point it's getting. It's getting.
It's getting at least to a million in a month or.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Two just on YouTube. Don't you also post on all
the other platforms?

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, yeah, over everything? Over a million questions, So people
are really interested what you discovered in the Great Pyramid
and what you're doing there, what I wanted to talk
about in this episode, among other things. I'm sure we're
going to go off on many rabbit holes on this
conversation with the pyramid itself. There's so much mystery around

(03:27):
in the pyramids and what you discovered. Can you give
a short description of what you discovered inside the King's Chamber?

Speaker 2 (03:33):
So what we discovered? The first discovery that I made
inside the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid was the
Alpha Mega on the rim of the sarcophagus. And then
after that, my wife Susie actually found in twenty twenty
a bull on the wall, and then my assistant Eden Visa,

(03:54):
she basically found a bird up on the wall as well.
That then I then saw another bird next to it,
so we started seeing all of us started seeing different
patterns on the walls, and so it was really a
collaborative effort. I was the first to see Alpha Omega.
But now we found that there are many, many etchings
on the walls, and they're all petroglyphs, and they're not
done in the style of like what you would consider

(04:15):
for ancient Egypt, and so and they'll overlap each other too.
It's really kind of amazing. Some of the etchings are
done in a three D perspective, so it's a unique
type of drawing that we only learned how to do
in around the fifteenth century, and so they're very advanced
from that perspective. But even then we didn't use it

(04:38):
the way that it's used here. So how in the
heck did these end up? It's almost as if it
was done in the future. How did these petroglyphs end
up on the walls, And then we didn't know what
the patterns were of the petroglyphs. We knew the alpha omega,
and we knew that the bull and the cow that
we found on the wall were related to that, because
the APIs bull is the alpha and the omega is

(04:58):
the shape of the hathors. Right, I saw it, and
so that's very well known. But what we didn't know
was the whole room, because we knew that there are
petroglyphs all over the walls, and we knew that those
same matching petroglyphs showed up in the Last Supper painting
by Leonardo da Vinci. We knew that he spent three years,
three and a half years in Egypt because he wrote
about it, and he was surveying the Great mount Taurus

(05:21):
that everybody in history thinks was actually a mountain in Armenia. Well,
he spelled Armenia incorrectly even for that time. He called
it Erminia, and that was an encryption for an ermine,
which is a weasel looking animal, and he made a
painting called the Lady with the Ermine. The ermine is
related to a magic order of hermetic wisdom that was

(05:43):
called the Order of the Ermine. And this is the
same little animal that they used to make the robes
of kings and around the rim of a crown. You
know the fur that you see with little black dots
on it. It's the tip of the tail that makes
the black dots. So what we found was actually da
Vinci wasn't referring to Armenia. He was referring to the
Egyptian mystery schools. He was referring to the Great mount

(06:06):
Taurus is the great mountain of Ross Tao. Rossaw is
the original name of the Giza plateau. It's Taurus backwards,
and the original name of the Great Pyramid is Bull Mountain.
So that's the hieroglyphics of it. In fact, you have
two chevrons on top of each other represent mountain, and
then you have an APIs bull right next to it.

(06:26):
That's the ancient symbol in hieroglyphics for the Great Pyramid.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
So I want to add so yeah, I'm sure the
Great Pyramid was named by some English explorer. So hey,
you know what, we're going to call this an a
great pyramid.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
They named it after Kufu. The story goes that there
was a explorer from England who had gotten about a
million pounds in investment to go and try to figure
out the treasure and find the treasure in the Great Pyramid.
Lots of people tried Napoleon before him as well, and
basically he couldn't find anything. There was never anything found

(06:57):
in the pyramid except for the sarcophagas one stone by
it's not very interesting from a treasure perspective.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
But that, by the way, that stone box is not
an actual burial.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
No, they never found any that. There's never been anyone
found in that thing.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Right, so's they call a sarcophagus, but it really is
just a box.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, no, No, it's just a stone box that nobody
knows what the real purpose of it is or was,
And it's not elaborate, like there's nothing that you could
see on it. No one noticed the alpha omega on
the rim until I noticed it in twenty eighteen, and
now nobody really disputes that at all. It's there, Right,
how did you get there? People don't know. That's the thing.
I remembered being there when it was put there. That's

(07:36):
how I found it, And all week long. I'd been
writing and drawing Alpha Omega my notebook in twenty eighteen,
and the night before I discovered an alpha omega under
the dome of the rock under the Alaxa Mosque in Jerusalem,
and I was there for a I was having a
state dinner that night with a bunch of my YPO
CEO friends and I was one of the hosts. So

(07:58):
I said, oh, I was the chapter shair at the time,
and I said, Oh, I'm going to go deep into
the cave, I may find the bathroom. So I asked
where the bathroom was, and there was a harpist there.
It looked like a straight up Illuminati dinner with these
long tables, with these big candelaars. It was yeah, they
would put their kar keys in this bowl. No, I
mean it was all guys, so that would have been

(08:18):
a lot of sausage. But anyway, definitely a sausage party.
The only the only woman in there, I think was
literally probably the harpist. It was a giant harp in
the center of the room too. So I kind of said, oh,
where's the bathroom. I gotta go get ready for my
speech because we had like dignitaries there and stuff too,
So I didn't go to the bathroom. I jumped the
fence and said, do not enter, and I went deep

(08:40):
into the cave because I knew that's where the ark
of the Covenant was supposed to have been hidden for
a long time after the reign of Zedekiah. So this
these names of the caves were originally Solomon's corey because
it was what they built Solomon's temple from, and then
it became Zedekiah's Cave as well. So when King Nebu
Kindestra came and attacked Jerusalem in five eighty nine BC,

(09:02):
and that caused the First Diaspora, right, the first diaspora, Basically,
he destroyed the Temple of Solomon and they took the
Archaic Covenant down to Zeddekaia's cave and it was hidden
in there for a long time until apparently the Knights
Templar took it out right and took it somewhere else. Now,
so that means it would have been in there for
at least a thousand years.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
What is the night? What is the architect Covenant?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
The Archaic Covenant is in the Bible, so it's described
in so if you know the story, the Bible wasn't
really written until you know Moses, right. So Moses comes
along and he wrote the five books of Moses. And
so those are the ones that you would know numbers, Deuteronomy, Leviticus, Genesis, right.
These are the stories that we have right about and Hebrews,

(09:49):
and that we have about the people that had been
taken into captivity river. They were taken into captivity because
of Joseph Right was sold by his fai. So you
had Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob Right. And Jacob's other name
was Israel. So he had twelve sons, and one of
those sons, the youngest son, was a fellow by the

(10:10):
name of Joseph. Joseph was favored of his father the most,
and he got the Code of Many Colors, which is
probably just rainbow consciousness, right, And so his brothers despised
him for it, and so they sold him off into slavery.
When the Egyptian traders came along, they sold their younger
brother off into slavery. So of course the father was upset,

(10:32):
and for his whole life they didn't see him again.
So what happened to Joseph, Well, he was psychic and
he had special abilities. And so he ended up like
making his way. There's a story about him with Potiphar
and Potiphar's wife, and then he becomes close with the pharaoh.
He becomes like this advisor to the pharaoh Andy and
the pharaoh has a dream and he's able to interpret dreams, right,

(10:52):
and so one of the interpretations was, we're gonna have
seven years of feast and seven years of famine.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
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Speaker 2 (11:07):
And so he told the pharaoh, we have to make
storage of all the grain, right, because Egypt was always
a bread basket, even for that time, and so because
of that, when the famine came, Egypt became very rich
because it had food to basically make it through. And
all the surrounding countries right were desolate, they had no food.

(11:28):
And so that's when his originally family came back. His
original family came back and was begging for food effectively,
and he found them a place there because he was
very well esteemed by the pharaoh. So from that point
in time, the family of you know that was the
progeny of Abraham ended up in Egypt and were taken
at least as far as the Bible story goes into

(11:49):
captivity and over time they just became slaves, you know,
and so they when a next pharaoh came that knew,
not Joseph, that's when the people started to really suffer.
And so then that went on for a few hundred
years until Moses came along. Right, So this story was
supposed to be Abraham was supposed to be around twenty
two hundred BC, right, and then you've got you know,

(12:12):
this period of time would have been somewhere around you know,
the time of Moses was probably around seven They think
it's like fifteen hundred BC. Right, So who knows if
these timelines are even correct, you know that it could be.
It seems like that's kind of a really long time.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Well, let me ask you a question real quick, Abraham,
because I have I have not. I mean, I know
who Abraham is obviously, and he's like the basis of
the Abrahamic religions.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Oh essentially, yeah, I mean you've got three religions basically.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Off of him, essentially. So was he an avatar? Was
he like a Jesus figure or a Buddha figure in
any way, shape or form, because he I mean, obviously
spawned off three of the major world religions, so he
was pretty important.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Oh, he was very important, there's no doubt. I mean,
he was supposed to have been from you know, the
Mesopotamia area, my land of Earth. But he paid tithing,
so his spiritual leader, he paid tithing to Melchisedic. So
Melchisedic was the word Melchisedic means malik or king. So

(13:12):
if you know someone like my partner's name is Vic Malik,
my business partner, Malik means king, right, And that's an
old word that's been used. You know, it's mainly referring
to people that are you know, probably more of Muslimorian
orientation and and ethnicity. But it comes from the word melik.
Melik means king in Hebrew, so malki Sedek is like

(13:35):
king or prince of peace. Prince of peace, prince of
justice is another meaning for that, so Zedek so, and
the place where they lived was in the land of Salem, right,
So the land of Salem was Jerusalem, so originally it
was just called Salem, and the ruler of that land

(13:56):
was Melchitzedek. So aber Ham was given though this you know,
blessing that his remember his wife Sarah, And I'm going
deep into my memory of like Bible studies and everything.
But his wife, Sarah was ninety years old, couldn't have
a child, and so he ended up having a child
instead with the you know, one of the handmaids of Sarah.

(14:17):
So they lived in the house and would be considered
like a concubine. So they had a child, and that
child was Ishmael. Yes, right, So we have a bad
estate plan and by some miracle, Sarah gets pregnant at
the ripe old age of ninety years old, right, and
they lived longer then. That's the other thing. They lived

(14:38):
longer from the pre fled times, everyone lived much much longer.
Like Adam lived nine hundred and thirty years, Methuselah was
said to have lived nine hundred and sixty nine years,
right Enockul lived three hundred and sixty five years, Moses
one hundred and twenty something years. So this this thing
caused the schism that we have now in the Middle
East because Ishmael was the older son and then so

(15:00):
have gotten the birthright. But because his mother was not
uh you know, was was was actually just this handmaid
of of Sarah. The birthright didn't pass to that. And
this is why in Judaism, unless your mother is Jewish,
you're not automatically Jewish, correct, right, Yeah, that's the thing
that that's why it has to pass through the mother.

(15:20):
And I always ask people when I go to Israel
there it's the only way to be sure. God chose us.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
We didn't choose in So okay, So going back, So
going back to the Ark of the Covenant, what actually
is in the covet? What's in it? So we saw
Indiana Jones, So yeah, that's right, So what is it exactly?

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Okay? So the arc of the Covenant, I think there's
the Bible story, which I don't totally buy into.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Shocking, go ahead, okay, tell you.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Why, and I tell you this is You're you're going
down a path I've never gone down on podcasts generally.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Why. That's why we have a comment, That's why.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
We have our conversations. Okay. So the Ark of the
Covenant was this box that had certain dimensions. It was
made of acacia wood. Akasha wood is the tree that
is pretty prominent down there. I was just in Aswan
with matsd. Stefano and we were looking, you know, at
these islands that were on there, and all the trees
that were acasha wood. The acacia wood tree has DMT.

(16:18):
So we start talking about the burning bush. Burning bush
was a kasha Okay, So were there psychedelics involved for
Moses that he had this you know, godlike experience.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
That's interesting.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
The burning bush was DMT okay, and it's a well
known DMT. In fact, I have this new geometry set
coming out that's made of acacia wood boxes. Please don't
burn the boxes. They're really hard to make, okay. But
I wanted to be something really special like that. So,
but akasha wood has this unique property. It's like kind
of like an ayahuasca and there are ceremonies that you

(16:52):
can have with akasha. It's a full on ayahuasca type ceremony. Yeah,
and I know lots of people would have done it.
It's made out of this wood yep.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
And then what's inside of it.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
So what's inside of it is subject to a lot
of speculation. Yes, right, it's supposed to house the power
of God.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Okay, now this box. Yeah, let's go back to the
story of Moses for a moment, and then we'll edge
into this part of the story. So the box has
these perfect dimensions, the perfect dimensions with the poles that
fit it. So they had to carry it a certain way,
and only priests that were of what they call the
you know, the Cohen family, right, which these would be

(17:32):
the sons of Levi, Right, So the sons of Aaron
and Levi. This whole story where you've got Aaron who
was the mouthpiece for Moses because he was a better order,
he was a better public speaker. And so Aaron's line
was blessed, right, and this was the Levitical tribe was
blessed to be the the not only the rabbis, but

(17:52):
the high priests that would actually be allowed to work
in the temple, right, and the ark and the ark
of the Covenant was and until they built the temple,
which didn't happen until around one thousand BC, which would
have been with Solomon, right though, So you know you've
got Solomon, and you've got Saul David then Solomon, right,
and until the temple was built, they had this tabernacle, right.

(18:14):
So when Moses escaped from Egypt and they followed him
to the Red Sea, and then you know, the pharaoh
Ramses was like his army was sort of destroyed because
they got stuck in the Red Sea, just like in
the season bild Mill movie. Right, what happened was no
one really knew why all of a sudden, because Ramses
had said, you can go, get out of here. We're

(18:37):
tired of you. Remember they already sent the pestilence and
the plagues, and they already sent the locusts and the frogs,
and they already and the firstborn son, right, and the
loss of the firstborn son of Ramses as well, so
he's like, just go, just go. Well, something happened that
made those you know, dynastic Egyptians run after Moses say no,

(18:57):
come back, We're not letting you go. Was it? Well? Interestingly,
the Arc of the Covenant proportions and dimensions perfectly fit
inside the sarcophagus of the Great Pyramid. Hmmm, it's a
perfect match. Okay, So there are many that pause it,
and I'm including, you know, I'm in that list that

(19:18):
the Arc of the Covenant was actually in the sarcophagus
and it was the conductor for the Great Pyramid made
of gold. So the box, even though in the book
right it tells the story in the Bible about how
they have to they're told how to make the Arc
of the Covenant, and there is more than one arc,
by the way, more than one arc. They were probably
in several different pyramids around the world. The Arc of

(19:40):
the Covenant was supposed to be made of these proportions.
There is two and a half cubits by one and
a half cubits, and it had these polls that had
to go on it. You couldn't touch the arc, and
the outer surface of it was gold. Well, gold is
one of the best conductorss right, and it had the
unique attribute as well that at the top of it
there were two angels. And these these cherubim angels had

(20:02):
wings that basically stretched out to each other, just like
in the movie. And there are four faces. If you
could reach in there and look at it, there are
four faces on each of the angel's faces. And the
four faces were the face of a man, the face
of a bull, the face of an eagle, in the
face of a lion. Now, if you know your zodiac,
you would know the face of a man is Aquarius.

(20:25):
You would know that the face of the bull is Taurus.
Face of a lion, of course, is Leo. You might
not know that the face of eagle is scorpio. These
are what we call the fixed signs right in the zodiac.
They're the ones that sort of mark the positions of
the zodiac the most right, they're the center of them.
They're the center thesis also of each of their element relationships.

(20:49):
So basically the Great Pyramid is also built with that orientation.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
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Speaker 2 (21:05):
The Great Pyramid. If you haven't seen this film, there's
a great film called The Revelations of the Pyramid. It's
a French film that's translated into English. You can find
it on Gaya now. I think they take it off
of YouTube now. It's probably the best show that there
is that explains a thesis of what the pyramid actually was.
And they present it the entire Geza plateau as a
giant clock that's based on the zodiac, and they show

(21:27):
the orientation of each of the sides where they have
the orientation of the entrance of the Great Pyramid. Because
it's Bull Mountain, is the Bull the north side and
that's where you enter the pyramid from, so the north
side's the Bull. The south side would be the eagle,
but actually it starts off with a scorpion. Then the
scorpion transforms and gets redeemed into a snake, and then

(21:52):
the snake transforms and redeems into an eagle, and then
that direct redemption process continues to turn the eagle into
a phoenix, and then the phoenix becomes vally. The phoenix
becomes the Ophiucus, which is the thirteen zodiac sign, and
it's the serpent bearer, so it becomes the story of Asclepias. Right.
Sclepias is the one who saved the life of Oriyan
when he was stung by a scorpion, which was really

(22:13):
just scorpion venom is the most expensive drug in the
world right now, thirty nine million dollars per gallon. And
it's an ego death. It's like eboga or like bufo
or any of these things that people are all doing
right now to experience ego death. This is just a
more intense way of experiencing ego death. And that's what
I believe is the actual metaphor story of the story

(22:35):
of orion O, Ryan and Ophucus are just opposite each
other in the night sky, right, They're exactly opposite each other.
So the orientation of the Great Pyramid being according to
the zodiac is matching the description in the Bible in
the Book of Ezekiel of the Ark of the Covenant.
Also having all four of those faces on it because

(22:55):
they represent the four sides of the walls in the
Great Pyramids King's chamber. That also you asked, what we
discovered in there shows the zodiac of all of those,
but not just the twelve zodiac scigns. It shows the
in total forty eight zodiac science. Because the Egyptian year
was split into thirty six segments, so ten days for

(23:16):
each segment. You know, they would look at okay, yes,
you're in Taurus, but there's a subset of Taurists, and
the subset of Taurists is Orion, Ariga and Eridonus, right,
and so these different aspects give you more specificity. So
if you look at the degree of where you're born
right on your birth chart or your natal chart, you
could actually find out that there's way more complexity. It's

(23:39):
like the next dimension of the zodiac. And this was
the Atlantean calendar also, so you could find out like
I was born in the week of Orion. May sixteenth
is the week of Orion in the Vedic calendar, right,
so that means I would take on certain Oriyan characteristics, right,

(24:02):
and and that's always had some resonance for me. So
it was, you know, I never knew that that was
a thing, right until I started studying all this stuff. Well,
this Deacon of Astrology has been around a long time,
and all the walls are etched with all thirty six
of the symbols of each of those constellations, and so
on the west wall that's behind the sarcophagus, there's a

(24:22):
big lion's face. You've seen it. I saw it, right,
you've seen it, and you actually saw it on Apple
Vision Pro on my new you know, sort of virtual
reality game thing that I created. What'd you think of that?

Speaker 1 (24:33):
By the way, it's pretty bad ass. I had to say.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
I was.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
I was, I was, I was. I was like, wow,
this is kind of ridiculous. It was pretty amazing. I
was there. It was pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
It's it's it's like you're there and you come out
of it, You're like, whoa, we live in a simulation.
As soon as you take that off, you're like, we
live in a simulation.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
There's no question.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
S think about where this technology go in five or
ten years.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
It's like one hundred, just one hundred years from now.
Where do you think that's going to go?

Speaker 2 (24:55):
I mean, smell everything, it's all going to be there.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
It's gonna We're gonna go. We're going to the Holidack.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
You know. Google just came out of this whole new
thing called Google. Nos. Have you seen this? Oh no, yeah,
it can smell. It's like Shazam for like smelling.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Of course, can you believe that? Of course? No, No,
I have no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
There's a possibility it was an April fool's joke when
I saw it, but I looked it up all over
the place, so they really took the April fool's joke
really far. And then I ran out of time to
find out if it was legit or not. But here's
the thing. The room is basically giving us a map
of time, and it's oriented backwards, so it's not just
giving us the map the way that it should go

(25:37):
clockwise and counterclockwise. It shows us the two directional nature
of time. See, we go forward in procession of equinox.
So if we just think of the twelve zodiac signs.
We go from Capricorn into Aquarius, then Aquarius into Pisces,
then Pisces and Aries and areas and a Taurus and
Touris into Gemini, and Gemini into Cancer and Cancer into Leo, right,

(25:59):
and then you go into Virgo and Libra, right, and
you're going through this whole cycle. But by the same
time that we're doing that, we're also going backwards. If
you look at the sky, don't look at your clock,
look at the sky instead, because what happens is as
we move from Aquarius into Pisces on a month to

(26:22):
month basis, we're slowly but by the same degree of proportion,
moving backwards. And this is why we just went on
an aon basis, which is two thousand years. Sure you
Teeshwa twenty four thousand year cycle, right, So each of
the AONs is two thousand years, right, And within that

(26:43):
there's fractals that then have these trends like sometimes people
like gold and sometimes they like silver, and sometimes they
like you know, metals and stuff like that. It's matching
all the collective consciousness as well. It's all part of
the simulation game that we live in.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Is that why gold is a little bit higher price
now than it ever before.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Because it's more popular again because you know why, because
we're an aquarius now, and what is our opposite sign
from aquarius Leo? And what does Leo represent? Gold?

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Does he?

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah? The sun?

Speaker 1 (27:14):
So where's gold going ten thousand?

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Gold's gonna go up. It's gonna go way up, right
because the dollar is good, I believe dollars is gonna
go way down.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Well yeah, that's I mean, anyone can see that coming.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Well yeah, I mean this is why bigcoin speculation has
been so big this year. And I mean we could
spend a whole different podcast just on that. But but
the point is that we go backwards in time by
the same degree, like a mobia strip or a cliinb bottle.
You know what a climb bottle is. I don't climb
bottle would be like a bottle like this, right, but
it has a spout that comes out of it and

(27:46):
that it wraps around itself and then comes back into itself. Okay, right.
Ambia strip would be if I had like a piece
of paper, a strip of paper, and I was gonna
make a little bracelet like we did in elementary school.
If I twist it five hundred and forty degrees right,
and I put her on my wrist with that twist
in it, it look kind of like DNA DNA's Ambia strip.

(28:08):
DNA's a Mobia strip. So you twist this strip, and
then if I have a little matel car, right, the
little ones that the kids play with, and I twisted
a thing like that and I could defy gravity, I
could let the car go, it would end up going
on both sides of the paper, Okay, because of the twist.

(28:30):
This is the nature of the Mobia strip. So what
this basically shows is that time can loop back on itself.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
So I'm gonna stop you there for a second because
this is something I've wanted to talk to you about.
I was talking to some channels the other day, some
scientists the other day, and this concept of there is
no past life, there's no future life, that all lives
are happening at the same time. That concept, which just
been explained to me, and I've spoken about it on

(28:58):
the show how you can kind of wrap your he
around that, But there was a scientist or researcher who
told me that, Well, imagine that we're looking at it
linear time is actually stacked on top of each other,
so it's all happening at the same time, and quantum
jumping is being able to jump between with ease because

(29:21):
we're not going back or forward. It's all at the
same level, but just at different times. And then we
get into the spiritual aspect of it, is that well,
that's the over soul living all of its lives at
the same time. And when you were talking about what
we were talking about earlier, of it looks like someone
in the Great Pyramid, someone came in and did it afterwards,

(29:44):
or we were talking about our future selves, our path,
our future selves coming back to talk to us in
a way, that's a form of quantum jumping. I talked
to someone yesterday who was transported, not a vision, not
felt like physically, her essence or conscience transported back to

(30:09):
Atlantis where she was in the room and started to
explaining everything to me. And I was like, I mean,
it was pretty mind blowing. So what are your thoughts
on what I'm just talking about this idea of experienced it,
So tell me tell.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Me I experienced it once. I've always been able to
see the future. Okay, when I was nineteen years old.
I was a Mormon missionary in Korea, and I'm not
Mormon anymore. But I left when I was thirty years old.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
But we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
And now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
I had a dream in the middle of the night.
I woke up my missionary companion and in my dream,
my girlfriend, who was going to b Yu at the time,
was driving a car. It was a base to Yoda
and she was driving. It was around Christmas time, so
she was driving home to Nebraska from Utah and which
is like a long straight drive through cornfields. She fell

(31:12):
asleep at the wheel. One of my friends was in
the front seat with her, and she rolled the car
into a ditch. In the dream, I saw the license
plate number. I'd never seen the car before. I saw
the license plate number. I saw blood covering her and
the other guy, and I saw that he broke his neck,
and I was so worried about it. And as a missionary,
we were not allowed to call home. You couldn't call home.

(31:33):
That was sort of the whole thing, Like you're there
for it's like being you're in a monastery, you know,
unless you're gonna leave, they're not going to do anything,
and I wasn't gonna leave. So I called the mission
president and I said I'd like to call home and
kind of like, I don't know if this has happened
or not, and he's thinking, Okay, this kid might just
be crazy. Well, I didn't call home, and I found

(31:55):
out about a week later because they didn't want to
tell me. On Christmas Day, they sent me a letter
that the same exact thing happened nine hours after the dream. Wow.
So it was a like exactly down to the license
plate in the car and the car I had never
seen before, and the guy died.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
And so what is that is that? Because that was
a dream though, that was a dream. That was a dream.
So is dreaming a form of quantum jumping?

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yes, it can be. It can be, right because once
you dreams can be connecting your subconscious. Right, it's from
your subconscious, and your subconscious is where you're closest to
your oversoul, right, that's where. And so the way that
the oversoul can communicate with us is through synchronicities and
through dreams. That's one of the most common ways until

(32:44):
we learn how to master the balance. That's necessary because
we have to be able to achieve a high degree
of Hemi synchronization of our two left and right brains,
which is really the alpha and omega. And once that happens,
then the KAI comes in. And what is the kai.
The kai is the optic nerve that connects the right
eye to the left brain and the left eye to

(33:04):
the right brain. It crosses over at the pituitary gland
puitary gland, this is called the optic chiasm, and then
it connects back to the occipital lobe. Right. So what
we're seeing inside of our brain, there's no photons in there.
We're just doing an interpretation from what's coming into our
retinal receptors of what photons it would be picking up

(33:27):
then flipping the image upside down because for us, if
we actually could see what we're truly seeing, it's an
upside down image, just like a camera right would be.
And then it's getting interpolated. There's no photons in my
head right that you would think there are. That are
just from the ambient molecules and the and the electrons
that are inside my brain right or the elements that

(33:49):
are inside my brain that make it up. But basically
we are doing an interpolation of a matrix simulation already
inside of our brains. It's just happening at the back
of our brains. So when we finally find this balance,
then we get into this what's called heart brain coherence.
The heart brain coherence is what mystics, what teshwa, what

(34:11):
all the baba jee. All of these guys became masters
at They learned how to balance their feminine energy with
their masculine energy and bring them so that they're no
longer in conflict one with another. And even comes down
to the point where you have to finally realize, you
know what, maybe my rational mind will never fully grasp

(34:31):
my irrational mind, but it can value it right, Like
I may never fully understand the reason for irrationality, but look,
I do love the curve. The curve is something I've
been eternally fascinated by. It's like, oh, it's so beautiful.
It's like life would be boring with only straight lines.
So I've learned to value that. And so therefore, the

(34:55):
feminine aspect that might seem totally emotional to the left
brain has an incredible value and intuition. It allows people
that have the balance to think and feel at the
same time, and when the heart thinks and the mind feels,
that's when the river of wisdom flows. And that river
of wisdom is your Kundalini life force. So this is

(35:15):
when it starts to light up your chakras. Right, And
this is all the stuff I know you've studied, because
I know all the books you've read, right, But this
is just maybe a different way of looking at I
came at it more from the Western esoterica than from
the Eastern, and then I went back and studied Eastern.
But it's still the same thing. Hermetic wisdom is the
same as Eastern. You have hermetic alchemists that were in

(35:36):
China as well. They're all doing the same thing. It's
learning how to transmute the metaphor of lead into gold,
and that metaphor is taking the negative experience of our
suffering and once we finally have the context of the
meaning behind the suffering, and it makes us more divine.
And it also makes the One even more aware of

(35:56):
itself because it's dividing itself into all of our eyes
of reception so that it can perceive itself through our
unique eyes of perception. Nobody with my eyes has ever
seen the world before and no one will ever see
it again. Because I have a unique parentage, I have
a unique conditioning bia set, I have a unique environmental factors.
I have a unique world. This play stage that we have,
this background of we all have like one big oversoul

(36:19):
and humanity, I believe is represented by Orian constellation and
it's the story of the hero's journey. Orian is the hero.
We're all in our own hero's journey. That over soul
has many names. We could say it's Yahweh for some,
the lesser Yahweh for others, Metatron for some, foth. I
mean you can go to a whole list of different

(36:39):
names that this could be something. There's one hundred and
eight names, something, there's seventy two names. They're all the
same because there's only one thing. There's you and your
experience and your u inverse around you. It's just divided
light so that it could perceive itself and then we
finally learn our oneness and we come back together as one.
And that's also way for Source creator.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
So the idea of the quorum jumping to be able
to go back and forth. Do you believe that because
a lot of times people talk about aliens and those
kind of interactions. What's your experience with that? Have you
had any experience with not only because UFOs are now

(37:22):
becoming a very mainstream everyone's talking about them, but even
in the past, you know, from the Ononaki to all
these kind of things, what kind of experience do you
have in that or stories have you heard?

Speaker 2 (37:34):
You know, I don't believe the Onnaki were one race
of aliens, right, you could say it was like a consortium,
a bunch of different alien species. And what is alien?
I don't like the word alien. You could call them
extraterrestrial or intraterrestrial. I believe they've been here all along.

(37:56):
It's not a function of whether or not these so
called aliens or extra Treshoals or intratreshals are here or not.
They're always here. The only question is is humanity in
a cycle where we are allowed access through higher dimensional
perspectives to be able to perceive them.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
And that's where we're going. That's why you're seeing more
and more of them now, because we're starting to our
consciousness as humanity is growing.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
The stuff that.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
I've been finding in the Great Pyramid, right, it's always
been there. Yeah, it's always been there. I mean, I
go back and look at photographs. Now you could say
maybe there's some strange Mandela thing going on. Who knows,
but what I believe because I can go back and
look at photographs that I took. Where I walked in,
I didn't see any of the stuff that I now
see all over the walls. For me, it's like a

(38:45):
color Technicolor experience. I walk in, You've got a glimpse
of it today through the Apple vision pro right, and
then once you see it, you can't unsee it. And
as da Vinci said, there are three types of people,
those who can see, those who can see once shown,
and those who don't see. Not everyone will see right,
and that's okay because it's a higher dimensional experience. So

(39:07):
the way you get to the higher dimensional experience is
through this hemisynchronization of the minds, the left and right
brains coming together, the chi forms right, and that creates
this electrical canopy over your hypothalamus and thalamus. There's that walnut,
and that's the knob on the staff of Hermes. So
the knob on the staff of Hermes goes straight through
your spine. The thirty three vertebrae goes all the way

(39:29):
up to that center point of your brain where the
pineal and pituitary gland are. And it's just like through
a breathing exercise, you can actually move your pituitary gland
because it's such slightly lower than the pineal gland does.
You can actually take it as you breathe, just like
with a heart. If you look at sena philoroscopy on
the heart, as you breathe, you see the heart pumping right,

(39:50):
pumping in and out. Our brains do the same thing
with our breasts. Just nobody thinks of it like that.
We think of our heart. It's not encased in this
hard you know, cranium, and so we don't think give
it like that. But if you look at an MRI
right or one of those motion cat scans, then you'll
actually see how the brain expands and contracts with our
breaths as well. So as you take in a breath

(40:13):
and you hold it deep, and you know how you
do that extra thing when you're meditating kind of like
I do breath work, and you can take it in
and then to get extra breath you go through your mouth.
Sometimes that last one, that extra leap and with your intention,
can push your pituitary gland so that it can almost
like the two fingers in Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel depiction where

(40:38):
God is reaching out to Adam and touching those two
parts of your anatomy can basically touch and create this
electrical connection which then sparks an enlightenment.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show. The one thing I
love talking about is obviously spirituality and raising our consciousness,
and I'm now starting to connect these ets, aliens ideas

(41:15):
behind that I've long been telling you, telling people, I'm like,
look if and I love to hear your thoughts, Independence
Day is not going to happen. If you're traveling across
the universe and you have the technology to across the universe,
you're generally a higher vibration, higher frequency being. You're not
going to come to conquer. There's no aliens like aliens

(41:37):
like the you know, predators or that's wonderful for Hollywood,
but that doesn't exist. So if we do encounter you know,
extraterrestrials or now we're starting to see them, they're going
to be at a higher level of consciousness and frequency
than we are, so much so that when we talk,
I know, you know our mutual friend ri al Anka,
who does Bishar, he said very often like if Bishar

(42:00):
would show up, we wouldn't be able to handle his
frequency vibration he would we would be like literally just
by him walking near.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Us, some people might not even be able to see him. Correct.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
And that's the other thing that now we're starting to
see so many more things, the things that you've started
to see. I said this to the other I said
this to somebody the other day. I was like, well,
all the technology we have right now, our phones, the cars,
all the materials to do everything has always been here,
all of it, all of it. The concept of the internet.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
One hundred years ago. This is straight magic.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Oh absolutely as straight man. Oh my god, yeah, the
internet would be It's essentially, you know, it's essentially.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
All the libraries of Earth can be stored and I
can access all of it.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
In an instant, instantaneously. That all of that technology has
always been here, but we were not allowed to see it,
and we are now seeing things so much faster because
even in our lifetime, how much is change.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
So imagine now because people ask me this all the time. Yeah,
why are things hidden.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Because we're not ready for them.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
They're hidden so that they can be found, but only
found by the people along their journey of raising their conscience.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Right, So here's the thing. The reason why there are
some people that would see aliens that have all these
experiences or extraterrestrials is because they were already vibing at
a higher frequency. So birds have different frequency of vision.
We can see a limited spectrum of light. Right, we
can see something between on the very very lowest end

(43:35):
one octave of light starting at three hundred and sixteen
animeters right up to seven hundred and twenty animeters. It's
exactly like one octave, right, So seven hundred and twenty
nanometers is going to be pushing you towards you know,
what we call the red spectrum, So it's going to
be the you're going to start to getting near him
for red, and then three hundred and sixteen animeters you're
going to be in the blue light spectrum, which is

(43:56):
going to be you know, the more feminine side of this,
which is you know, ultraviolet and blue. So that's the
range that we can see, but birds can see beyond
our ranges. So like you'll see these birds that have
all these aridescent colors and stuff. And I couldn't really
see iridescence that well before, not until I tried mushrooms.
And then I could start seeing iridescence that I couldn't

(44:19):
see before. I could start seeing auras. Right, I could
see your aura right now. These are things I couldn't
see before, but kind of orangey orange and orange yellow.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Golden? Oh, that means your general balance not as much green,
so you can open your heart a little bit more.
Those are the things and a little less on the
feminine side. So some of the higher chakras right now,
I mean, they have cameras that do this and capture
this stuff. And you could do this better than what
I'm doing right now. But I'm pretty sure this is
what you would see. And so your higher chakras are

(44:55):
not fully vibing all the way yet, so the pineal pituitary.
But it's it's it's not that it's not there. It's there.
I could see it, and and and psychics and others
who basically have this ability would be able to read
this on you as well. But where you're very good.
Like you're almost overbalanced, is in your kidneys. Your kidneys,

(45:16):
that's why you've got a lot of kind of orange
light and solar plexus light. You use a lot of
your willpower. You right now, you use a lot of willpower.
And what I would say to you is you could
probably reduce the willpower a little bit and things would
go almost just like surrender to it and things would
actually go just as smooth or better without having to

(45:38):
exert yourself so much in that. Does that resonate at all?
Sorry about that?

Speaker 1 (45:45):
You asked, no, I asked, no, it's very true because
if I if I would I I'm a director by nature.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Yeah, yeah, you want to control everything I'd like to.
I mean, come on, I mean this plays, I mean like,
come on, I can see you walking around. You've got
the little Indiana Jones.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Head over to the Holy Girls behind you.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Of course, of course there's Easter eggs all.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Over this You've even planned for over there in the
wake in this place is like wow, this is like
a little playroom for me.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
So but that's it's, it's it's it's very fascinating because
a lot of people, a lot of people are starting
well like in our time, like in our lifetime, We've
had so much growth, and things are growing so fun now.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
It's so fast, it's.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Daily, monthly something news popping up, and and I'm and
as I'm watching it all because what I do with
this show and with my own journey is I'm trying
to connect the dots. Like I've said before, I'm trying
to see the whole elephant and not to just you know,
just not the tail or the leg or the ear
or something like that. I'm trying to put all the
elephant together and put the puzzle pieces together. So by

(46:56):
talking to every.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Spectrum twenty Okay, so you're a cancer, I am, sir. Yeah,
so you you've got a lot of heart, but there's
also a resistance that you have to being too weighted
on the heart side, which is interesting, right, So but
actually it's who you are because I feel like that,
first of all, I said that to you already. I
feel like I've known you forever. Yeah, same here, And

(47:19):
and it's kind of like I told him, I'm like,
definitely we are on the millennium falcon together at some point, and.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
I'm not Chewbacca, and i am not Chewbacca I love,
but I am not Chewbacca. I could be Han Solo
or Luke or.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Even Obi Ware. Are you Harry Well, yes, I'm Latino, sir. Okay,
I'm just kidding. So anyway, but to your point to
your question, why is this all happening now? Well, people
are raising their consciousness. As they raise their consciousness, everyone's
going to start seeing more and more of it. So

(47:53):
blow global contact and everyone talks about global contact is
about where we are, not about where the aliens are.
They've been here all lot.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Let me ask you, then, do you because there's been
talks of Okay, now we're going to go a little
bit more esoteric.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
But that also answers your question, right, because you cannot
be in higher dimension unless you've already mastered these lower
dimensional principles of Hemi synchronization of your brain, so you
can't be in higher dimensional. So you know, we're in
the four D right now. Now. Arcturians are what they

(48:27):
would call themselves future humans, future from our perspective, but
time becomes irrelevant once you go into the fifth and
sixth dimensions. It becomes less important. At the fifth dimension,
you start realizing that that's what we're going into now
that time flows forward and back, there's only.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Now, which is the stacking.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
The stacking exactly so you can jump. There are all
these different dimensions of you through all your different lifetimes
that are happening simultaneous to now. The avatar state of consciousness,
just like in the show that's on Netflix right now,
Reat Airbender. The avatar state is when you can tap
into all of those lifetimes and capture all the knowledge
that you learned in all those lifetimes. You didn't know

(49:05):
how to be a sculptor in this lifetime, but you
were in the last. You can now access them.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Let me ask you this though, that's a very interesting point.
Would that be what yogis are doing? Yes, when they
find enlightenment.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Yes, enlightenment is not just I'm in love no no, no, no,
I mean it's light from dark No.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
But they connect to something. They're connecting to something that
opens them up to a place where they're connected to
the universe. Especially. That's right, and all the knowledge comes
Rushian is there?

Speaker 2 (49:35):
So the science, the math, if everything is there, Yeah,
we don't need It's like we all think that we
have to go to school to learn. Does a whale
need to go to whales school to learn to be
a whale. No, it knows how to raise its own
consciousness to do all the things that whales do. It
knows it from the start. It's like certain animals. They're

(49:56):
born like a horse can run right after it is born. Right. Yeah,
we start thinking about our lives differently. We start realizing that,
wait a minute, this is my birthright. I have access
to all the information in the world. This has just
been a little training wheel for that. Yeah, and cataloged
it for us. But actually we can take it all
in and what we have to do to be able

(50:17):
to process it is understand the quadrivium. Quadrivium is you know,
Pythagoras said all his number, Plato says all his number.
What the quadrivium is is it's arithmetic, geometry, music, and cosmology.
Arithmetic is number in itself. Geometry is number in space,

(50:37):
music is number in time, and cosmology is number in
space time.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Okay, Once you study these four discipline areas, that is
like figuring out a way how to ty treate your
receiver so that the conceiver the oversoul the higher self
is the conceiver, Your brain is the receiver, and your
consciousness in its divided state, is the perceiver. This is

(51:18):
what Darryl told me during my podcast with him. He said,
this is what Bishar explains conceiver, receiver and perceiver, and
that so resonated with me, like it was like, oh
my gosh, that's like wow. So when we start to
realize that we can tap into this higher conscious state
and there are different levels of it, it's not like

(51:39):
something that's just instant, you know, you're like in between stages.
And so that's where humanity is right now. Some people
are experiencing fifth dimensional experience right now. Many people are,
and that's the people that have chosen love over more judgment.
Judgment is the opposite of love. It's not fear and
it's not hatred. Those are different aspects that feel kind

(52:02):
of similar. But I never felt comfortable with the idea
that the opposite of love was either hatred or fear. Right,
But judgment nails it from me because anytime you have judgment,
you've placed conditionality on something. And if you're here to
learn a precept of love, if you're here to learn

(52:26):
unconditional love, then you will have a lifetime of experiences
of conditional love because we learn through opposites. If I'm
here to learn pleasure, I'm going to experience pain over
and over and over again until I no longer either
judge negatively pain right, or fear the pain anymore. The

(52:48):
moment I no longer judge something negatively is when I've
actually learned its opposite. You understand what I'm saying. We
learn through opposites. So our entire life experience here is
experiencing all of this as a dimensionally limited avatar that
has an oversoul. The oversoul has chosen to experience itself

(53:09):
through our eyes. There's no mistakes, no mistakes. We're not
making mistakes. The one wants to learn empathy for every
possible circumstance and perspective, and it can learn its greater
wisdom because it's a philomath, a lover of learning and
a lover of wisdom and philosopher in the ancient sense.
It divides itself so that it can experience all these

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different perspectives of angular degrees of perception through our unique
eyes that can become billions and billions of millions of
people and will always become more and more and more
so that it can learn itself because, as Alan Watt said,
an eye can't see itself without the aid of a mirror.
Consciousness can't perceive itself. A knife can't cut itself, a
tooth can't bite itself, a fire can't burn itself. So

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as we go to these higher levels of consciousness, and
once we've balanced our brain and we know how to process,
because there's a little bit of a processor in there too,
we have to have some understanding of things. So by
studying quadrivium, we can tune the tuner.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
So then how when yogi's I'll go back to yoga's
when yogis are meditating, what's actually happening in their chakra
system that is opening up or leveling up their frequency
to the point where they can start to access more
and more of this universal knowledge. Because from my experience
talking to near death experiences, there has been many of

(54:30):
them that they go in there and they just ask
a question and it just is answered, or they get
downloads of the Oh that's what quantum physics is. Oh,
that's all of mathematics. Oh that's all of that, and
it's all in there. They can't bring it back because
our processor can't handle it. But they bring back moments
of it or clips of it or little little of it,
insights insights like yeah, but they could they the brain

(54:52):
literally can't grasp it.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
But that's why it's so important, because you can if
you study the quadrivium, but you know it well.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Correct. But then with a Yogi, he is a.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Good example of this holy science. So he brought forward
a lot of knowledge and information that was very scientific,
but it was couched in the context of spirituality.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Correct. But what from what I understand and correct me
if I'm wrong, is when a yogi or an a
sented master or an avatar of some sort gets to
a certain level, they're literally hooked up to the Internet,
of the universal universal Internet. So in other words, our
our our our iPad or our computer is limited, but

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when it hooks up to the Internet, it's unlimited.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
And so what is it that changes in them? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (55:41):
What is it and changes in them? Is that true?
Is what I'm saying? Is that makes sense?

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Hundred percent true? Okay, one hundred percent true?

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
So you could think of like your spine as a meter,
So think of it as a meter and it's probably
about a meter as well. Think of it as a
meter you can use for a trology for measurement of things.
And the more base you are, the more judgment you carry.
So you could think of this as a judgment love meter.

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So as you go up higher and higher states of consciousness,
you're moving more and more towards states of love. The
highest is love, right, Bucky Fuller, you know Bucky Fuller
was Buck Mister Fuller was a famous architect, geometer of
right and polymeth and he says that love is metaphysical gravity. Interesting,

(56:35):
So love is the thing that binds the universe together.
And maybe that's why it's the darkness of the universe
because we don't understand it. We think that darkness is
the absence of light. It's not. Darkness is the absorbed
condition of light. It's the absorption of light, not the
opposite condition of it. If we turned all the lights

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off in here, you did it right before you did
the I'm not going to do it right now, say
the word. But you said of word that starts with
the A L e X A. And then you know,
it's like you can literally turn everything off instantly. If
we did that, right now, right, there's still light in
the room. We don't perceive that light right because our

(57:17):
eyes are not tuned to never see that.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Whatever leakage is in what you mean light leakage or.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
The very first light in the universe is hydrogen. So
if there is a element of hydrogen in the room,
even one atom of hydrogen, it's emitting photons of light,
fair enough, okay, And it will emit those photons according
to its resonance frequency. So its residence frequency can be
defined in what's called spectral reflection and spectral absorption. So

(57:48):
I can look at the spectral reflection, which looks like
a band all black, right, and there's like four lines
of pinks and reds and blues and violet that represent hydrogen.
This is how we know. We look into outer space
and we could say, oh, we see these nanometers of light,
these exact combination of nanometers, Then we know the composition

(58:09):
of what's in outer space. It's hydrogen because those are
very unique light signatures. You have a light signature. All
of your body is made up of DNA, right. Ultimately,
that DNA is made up of a combination of the
elements that basically go into the building blocks of our DNA,
which is carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen. Those are the

(58:33):
four that you've got sulfur and phosphate FORH phosphate backbone.
But those are the combinations of things that can make
your entire light signature. So by this token, you could
look at other star systems and say, wait, so if
we have a certain light signature associated with a certain star,
is that star really just a gigantic as above so

(58:54):
below element of carbon, maybe cobalt. If it's more blue
stars red, might it be something altogether different? Right? You
see what I'm saying? Is it more hydrogen related? Are
we just looking at gigantic versions of atoms? I believe so, yes,
that's what I believe. I believe what we're actually looking
at the reason why our sun has its yellow color

(59:16):
because it's a carbon sun. We are in that dimension,
which would tell you that we're in the fourth dimension.
Fourth dimension is going to be associated also with carbon.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
So different sun colors will determine the different consciousnesses.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Yes, you notice how the sun when we were young
was way more orange yellow. Now it's more white, and
it's at noonday. You notice that it's changing because it's
moving up to the next octave. The next octave is
going to take it beyond fluorine. So when we were
growing up, we had nine planets in the Solar System. Yes, right, Pluto.

(59:51):
Pluto is a planet. Now they downgrade it because they said, oh,
it's too small to be a planet. They call it
a dwarf planet. But okay, it's still a planet. So
what would be nine electrons? So nine electrons on an
atom would give you fluorine. That's the last element before

(01:00:12):
going into the octave jump. The next octave jump would
take us into the silica range. So silicone is the center.
So you've got the center of a wave is hydrogen.
The center of the next wave of elements on the
periodic elements table, it's actually a wave of elements is carbon,

(01:00:32):
and the next one up from there is silicone. Right. Well,
as we're going through our transition in our DNA, right,
we're moving up to a more complex structure of elementary
makeup of our atoms. That more complex structure means that
that which was more carbon oriented before now moves into

(01:00:54):
a more silicone orientation. Crystallization. What is quartz crystal, It's
silicon dioxide. Okay, we're moving more into a crystal form.
Even our DNA is now taking on that characteristic. We're
up leveling from the carbon octave.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
So what does that mean, Well, it means that very
soon I'll make a prediction they will discover probably as
we continue this expansion. It's as above, so below, as within,
so without, As we discover and go more and more
into the fifth dimensional experience, they're going to discover three new.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Planets in our solar system.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
How could they discover? I guarantee if you look it
up right now on the Internet, you will find that
they are now positing at least two, if not three,
new planets that are not necessarily new. They think they've
been there all along, but they're seeing the gravitational signature
of them now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Is that past Pluto?

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Yeah, they'd be in the Kuiper Belt right, or called exoplanets.
But that would be also true when you look at electrons,
right that are moving into these higher states. So you
go into magnesium, magnesium would have twelve electrons. That's how
it works. You've got an equal number of protons and electrons.
For the stable elements, right, the stable elements go all

(01:02:24):
the way out until you get to the lanthanides and alkanides.
But the point being that we are just moving through
our higher states of awareness, and there's only actually one
element going through its periodicity starts with one electron and
one proton, and then it just adds electrons and protons
until it becomes unstable. And there's in total one hundred

(01:02:46):
and thirty seven elements, of which we've discovered one hundred
and eighteen. There's still nineteen other elements we haven't discovered,
and some of them are actually prior to hydrogen. Really
they're called hydrinos. So if you look at it, the
number of elements on the periodic elements take is you know,
you've got hydrogen, which is the peak of a wave.
The whole structure how we looked at this as a

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table doesn't really make sense because that's not the way
nature does it. It would be a spiral or something. And
so you look at the next octave, which would then
go from hydrogen. The next element is helium. Right, then
you've got lithium. They've got three electrons, three protons. Then
after lithium, you've got beryllium. Then beryllium goes to boron. Right,

(01:03:29):
so boron has five elements or five electrons, excuse me.
And then you've got six electrons, which is carbon, So
it makes a cube. Wait a minute, this is genius.
How the heck did the ancient polymaths know, like Plato
that carbon and earth was a cube that would have
six electrons, six protons, and six neutrons. What's the sum

(01:03:54):
of angles of a cube? Well, tw and sixty degrees.
And if I took each so right, of of the
six sides of a cube, right, it's it comes out
to the exact same math. It's the exact same math.
So is it possible six electrons, six protons?

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
This is a hypothesis. Is it possible that some of
the great minds of our of our past, past, Galileo Platos,
all of them, just lay them out, were at a
different vibrational frequency and level in their in their journey
to raise their consciousness, Some of them were Even if

(01:04:33):
you were like one or two steps above everybody else,
you were so far beyond everybody else that you would
look like a genius. It would be the equivalent of
you or I walking into a place that you know,
a tribe that's never seen a man, and all of
a sudden we are absolutely at a whole other level intellectually.
But this is on a spiritual level, even though they

(01:04:54):
might have not even known.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
So this is the great secret. It's the great secret.
The great secret is in the why Testra named his
book holy science, because in order to go to higher
states of knowledge, the doorway must be through raising your vibration,
which must come through higher spirituality.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
And yet the science that the hard science or the
materialism of today, it works.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
In exactly the opposite direction. So everybody that discovered things,
So you look at mathematicians through time who discovered things.
Whether it's Plato who came up with the Platonic solids, right,
maybe it was someone else of the Egyptian mystery schools
who didn't want to be named because basically they could
be killed. Also, right, Galileo right, Galileo right? Or you
know Jordan Bruno, Bruno burned at the state type of thing. Right.

(01:05:40):
So every time you had this massive expansion in human awareness,
it always came through a spiritual doorway. Always da Vinci right,
he was a spiritualist, without a doubt. Einstein Einstein. Einstein
also right, and then everybody wants to take the virtual
aspect out of the equation and just say no, no, no,

(01:06:02):
it's just about the science. If you just focus on
the science, you will never discover anything. You'll never discover anything.
You'll only push things around the table in the paper.
You're not actually going to move the needle in science.
Mathematics will only come whenever we go to a higher dimension.

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We have to first get a download of the new
source code for that higher dimension of consciousness.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Robert, I could talk to you for another four hours.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Likewise, my friend, it has been such.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
A pleasure and honor talking to you, my friend. We'll
have to do it again.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Absolutely, have an.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Open invitation anytime you want to come down to the.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Studio next time I'm here. I'll let you know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
But I appreciate you, my friend. Thank you again for
everything you're doing to awaken the planet as well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Thank you, Love you, Ben.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
I'd like to thank Robert so much for coming on
the show and sharing his knowledge and experience with all
of us. And if you want to get in touch
with Robert, just head over to the show notes at
next levelsoul dot com, Fort slash for one.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
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