BONUS MONDAYS: Woman Dies, Has the MOST PROFOUND Near Death Experience We EVER Heard! (NDE) with Sara Jayne

In the tapestry of our lives, we sometimes encounter moments that reshape our very essence. On today’s episode, we welcome the remarkable Sara Jayne, a woman whose journey through near-death experiences (NDEs) has profoundly changed her understanding of life, death, and everything in between. Sara’s tale begins with a stark reality that many of us might find unsettling, yet it is in this unease that we often find the seeds of our greatest enlightenment.

Sara Jayne’s first near-death experience occurred after the birth of her second child. As she hovered above her own body in the operating room, she observed the medical team’s frantic efforts to save her. This detachment from her physical form brought a strange sense of neutrality. “I was not distressed, I wasn't attached to the outcome. It was more of an observation,” she recalls. This initial brush with death did not immediately alter her life's course, but it planted a seed of curiosity that would bloom many years later during her second NDE.

Fast forward to 2018, after enduring years of a debilitating autoimmune disease, Sara found herself on the brink of death once more. This time, the experience was even more profound. She describes an ethereal journey where she left her body through her feet, ascending towards a realm of unimaginable love and light. Here, she encountered a presence she identified as the source of all existence, a being of pure, unconditional love. “It was like coming home,” she says, reflecting the comfort and familiarity of this divine encounter.

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(01:35):
they represent. Now today on the show, we have one
of the most profound near death experience stories I've ever heard.
We have in the show Sarah Jane, whose near death
experience really kind of shook me to the core. It
is so beautiful, it is so profound, and what she
was able to do on the other side and what

(01:57):
she was able to see on the other side, it
is fairly mind blowing. So let's dive in. I'd like
to welcome to the show, Sarah Jane.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
How you doing, Sarah, I'm great. Thanks Alex, Thank you
very much for having me on your show.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Thank you so much for coming on the show. I'm
looking forward to our conversation. You've had a unique experience,
to say the least. So before we get into your
near death experience, what was your life like before having
your near death experience?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Well, I've had two so it's probably if you'd like
me to go back to.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
The first one.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, first one, And probably maybe if I preface all
of that with a little bit with my father had
a really prominent role in my second one, and maybe
when I get to that, it will make more sense
if I just quickly rewind a little bit. I grew
up with my My family was and a question I've

(02:56):
had a lot is was I am I religious? Was
I religious? So I'm going to say my family was
a blend of a mother that was religious and a
father that was not. He was a cardiologist, very scientific,
very medical, and his beliefs basically were my beliefs. I

(03:19):
followed him around like as a little girl. I can
remember just being absolutely captivated by his big heart that
he had on his desk, as cardiologists do, and my
love of the heart informed my life, and I went
on to formally train in cardiac imaging and was working

(03:44):
in a busy cardiac lab alongside my father when I
had my first ende. I was. I just delivered my
second baby and had what, in the hours afterwards was
bleeding out internally, So we didn't know. I knew because

(04:05):
I was experiencing a lot of pain, but I didn't
get to the operating theater. I think it was about
five hours later, and had lost a lot of blood volume,
and it was an emergency surgery, and I was during

(04:25):
the surgery became aware that I was watching a surgery
from the perspective of above, near the ceiling at the
base of the bed to the right above, watching an
operation going on, and probably being medically trained, I was

(04:50):
more interested in what was going on medically, looking at
the vital signs and looking at that more than looking
at the surgery and what was going going on, rather
than is that me? I soon became it's interesting looking.
We're really used to looking at ourselves in two D.

(05:12):
We never really appreciate what we look like from another
person's perspective in three D until you are above looking
at yourself in three D. And it's so weird. It's
nothing like what you look like, how you think you
look like. And maybe that's why it takes a while.

(05:33):
But maybe you don't think of being outside of your
body observing yourself ever, Well I didn't. I certainly didn't,
and with medical medical family, scientific family, I didn't ever
think about existence beyond your last breath ever, and was

(05:58):
not even in my contra just thought I was lights out.
That's it. That's what my beliefs were. And so maybe
that's why I didn't really think, oh, that's me being
operated on. I was listening to what the anethetist was
saying to the surgeon about my blood pressure crashing, and

(06:23):
I think that's when I became I was looking more
and realized, oh that's me, that's me. I'm observing and
not being distressed by that at all.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeh, what was your feeling? What was the feeling you
had was this going on?

Speaker 2 (06:41):
It was complete neutrality. It was as if I was training,
like to be surgical training, and you're observing another surgeon
doing an operation and you're watching the techniques or you're
watching you're not attached to I don't know if like
say like that, but attached to the outcome, because it's not.

(07:03):
It was like, I wasn't distressed. I wasn't. It's weird.
I wasn't even wasn't giving any thought to that. It
was more just an observation, just that's interesting, that's really interesting,
And not even thinking and even watching my ECG like flatlining,

(07:30):
that didn't even evoke anything of it was more like
it was really just an observation. And then but I
had the expanded a where so my awareness expanded so
that I was aware of my baby in a nursery

(07:53):
being cared for by nurses. And I was aware of
my husband out in the hospital corridor sitting on a
blue plastic chair in the corridor on his own, sitting
there staring at the floor with his hands between his legs,

(08:14):
just looking down, and I could feel what he was feeling.
And my awareness was everywhere and not just focused on
It was my awareness where I could direct it and
where I could focus on where I was, but it
was also able to be everywhere. And I was aware

(08:36):
of my back back in the surgery. I was aware
of my presence and essence of my grandfather. I knew,
I knew who it was. I knew what the energy was.
I knew it was my grandfather, and he was communicating, no,

(08:59):
it's not your time, you have to go back. And
as soon as that was communicated, the I was back.
The next thing I'm aware of is I'm in a
recovery ward. I'm waking up and back back in my body.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, my body. So let me ask you so when
you when you when you were back in your body,
I'm assuming the pain came back and you started getting
all the lovely sensations of being human.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
At that point, I was in immense pain prior to
the surgery, but I'd had the surgery, so that was gone,
and I guess you're still having the effects of an anesthetic,
so you're not. I was very acutely aware of what
had happened. And when the surgeon came into the post
of the recovery ward, as they do to say how

(09:55):
it went, you went well, He, the surgeon and the
undeath test came in together, and I just told them
I had observed their conversation, what I had heard them say,
how it all went down, where they were, what they
were doing, and they both affirmed my account of the situation.

(10:21):
And what did they say, Well, the aneath the test
and the surgeon both both agreed and went, how do
you know that? Because before things started going south, they'd
made a joke about that night before or see I

(10:42):
delivered at one am. So but I'll say the night
before my obstetrician was at a hospital, Ball Hospital, Gala,
Ball and he was dressed as Clark Gable and his
wife a Scarlett O'Hara, and he had turned up to
the hospital as Clark Gable and a dashing heart fay
with and they were laughing about that and joking about

(11:04):
that and how he'd left his Scarlett. I how ride
the ball, and I was aware of all that.

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Speaker 2 (11:20):
And so yeah, there's no way I couldn't have heard
that any other way. I mean I was in labor
four hours. I was in a hospital, sure from a hospital, gar.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Sole me. So let me ask you this, how did
you deal with this psychologically when the first one happened,
Because this is completely had to have thrown your whole
faith belief system of what the universe is about upside down.
So not only were you dealing with, you know, having

(11:55):
a new baby, dealing with the surgery when you come
back going wait a minute, there isn't after life or
there's something going on, how did you deal with it?

Speaker 2 (12:03):
It's really interesting. I was really sick afterwards. I had
developed inflammation of the heart two days after and I
had lost all my blood volume, could not have any
blood product donated because I had inflammation of the heart,
so I couldn't even sit up without passing out four months.

(12:26):
And because it's interesting, I've asked myself, why didn't I
give this more thought? Because I didn't. I know, I thought,
maybe people will think I'm crazy if I talk about this,
and I think it was a combination of being really sick,

(12:49):
having a baby, and just getting back into life, and
I didn't think about it. And now I think about that,
and I'm like, wow, how can I shut that down?
And I do look at it as like a taste
for the second one, because the second one was way

(13:12):
more intense, way more an experience.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Sole me before we get to the second one then,
so you essentially locked it up in the in the chest,
threw away the key, dumped them into the ocean, and
you kind of just like, I'm not even going to
deal with that, because if I say anything, people can
think I'm crazy. I can't physic, I can't even deal
process what's happened to me. I got enough to deal with,

(13:38):
and you just kind of shelved it. Essentially.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, it's and like I said, I can't believe that
now because I am naturally curious about everything. Sure, and
I can't. I can't believe it. I look back, and
you think you have had an experience that now I'm
all I can think about is consciousness, and it's been

(14:04):
I'm so profoundly different after the second one that I was.
I will say it did have an impact in the
way that I chair it, like cherished being with my
baby and being alive, and it had that sort of
impact in that I probably became way more cognizant of, hey,

(14:31):
this could end at any moment. Probably probably should cherish this,
but I didn't take it any further.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Interesting. So then, so how old were you when this happened?

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Thirty two for the first one for the first.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
One, and the second one? How many years passed?

Speaker 2 (14:47):
So long story short it was the second one was
first one was two thousand and two. The second one
was twenty eighteen.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
And a while past.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Quite a distance. Yeah, distance, weird concept. But we'll get
into that time, space, energy, how they interact, and how
I have no concept of time now. I find it
really hard to reference time, really hard. I can't live
by time now. It's so interesting that I used to

(15:21):
be working in a lab and dictated by every minute
and every appointment with patient times and now I can't
do it. I can't do it at all. It was
I had had so in twenty ten, a little bit before, no,

(15:42):
it was twenty ten, I was diagnosed. So I went
back to work. I essentially went back to work, worked
a really, really, really busy life imaging hearts. That was
what I did all to day. I spent all day
looking into the hearts of others and loved it absolutely.
I used to tell my kids, I'm a heart detective

(16:02):
and I just go around trying to find the baddie.
And that's how I explained to them what mum did
all day. And I worked, as I said. I worked
with my father. We had a really beautiful relationship personally professionally.
He was my mentor in life and in cardiac medicine.

(16:23):
And I just threw myself back into doing what I love.
I started getting sick. I crazy as it sounds, put
it down to getting old. And I wasn't even forty.
But I started thinking, oh, I'm getting old. I'm so
tired all the time, and my joints are aking. I

(16:44):
got to the point where I used to get up
and run every morning before I went to work, and
I would I couldn't even get out of the car
after driving to work without my joints just seizing up
and throbbing all day. So long story short, I was

(17:04):
ended up in hospital with cardiac complications in twenty ten
and that was the beginning. Was diagnosed with a rare,
life threatening autoimmune disease and a systemic autoimmune disease, so
that they a systemic disease affects organ's mind, affected my
heart and then my brain. And that was a ten

(17:29):
year period of pretty much in hospital, a lot of it,
trying and failing every treatment available at the time, and
as new ones became available, trying those, but had a stroke,
heart attack, eight episodes of meningitis and inflammation and heart failure,

(17:51):
and eventually we started on weekly chemotherapy in hope that
that would get me into remission. And I was close
to a year into that when it started to fail,

(18:12):
and I was in hospital with severe heart fire at
that time, and I had meningitis and was awaiting approval
for a new experimental drug we'd heard about that was
available over in the US and other but it wasn't
available in Australia. And I was stabilized but still really sick,

(18:40):
and I wanted to go home. I had young children
at home, and I had spent so much of my
time in hospital, and there was really nothing else we
could do but wait and see if I could have
access to this drug. And so I was allowed home.
I must be pretty convinceding house all at home that

(19:02):
I was. I don't know, I must be. I don't
know how I managed to talk my way out, but
I got home, and I was pretty much existing, breath
to breath. I couldn't care for myself. I was in
my bed when you have meningitis, the inflammation in the brain,

(19:23):
and the light. I couldn't handle light of even a
TV or a phone or any sort of light. So
I had sung like really dark, big Hollywood style glasses on,
and I had no hair because I had chemos well.
I had a big scar wrapped around my head and
I was in bed. And I've got one photo of

(19:45):
that period, and I look at it and I just
laugh every time, because I had no idea what I
looked like. Was too sick to care. But my kids,
my kids would exist in my room with me and
on my bed with me. They would come and crawl
up on bed with me and spend time with me
in there, and that was the setting for my second

(20:07):
dam on the day I woke up knowing I can't
tell you how, but I woke up knowing that it
was going to be my last day. You could say,
why didn't I go back to hospital if I knew

(20:30):
I was going to decline, But it really was nothing
more we could do.

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Speaker 2 (20:47):
And I wanted to be in my own home. I
wanted to be in my own bed, and I wanted
to be around my own family. I didn't want to
be I lived in a small country town. I didn't
want to be hundreds of common as a way in
a city hospital. If that was my last day, I
just I didn't, So I of course didn't. I literally

(21:10):
just like just drunk my whole everything in, or listening
to my children when they came home from school, just
listening to them and lying on my bed and just
lying there drinking it all in. And I remember that
I felt happy to have them near me. But I

(21:34):
was ten years into a really long, hard fight, and
I was barely able to barely had the energy to breathe,
let alone talk, let alone live. I was existing. I
had been like that for a year, and I was tired.
I was really tired. So they went off to bed,

(21:58):
and I remember I told my husband. He came to
bed and I said, I'm not going to be here tomorrow.
And he said, well you've thought that before, which we had.
I've had many many times where it's been touched and
go and I said, you know and he said, oh,

(22:21):
you're a fighter, you know you always fight. And I went, yeah, okay,
that's why I do like I am a fighter. And
he just said. I just said, if I deteriorate, you
can take me, but I want to stay here. Because
he said to me, well, if you really feel like that,
we should go to the hospital. And I again, I

(22:43):
must be very convincing because I managed to talk him
into a pact of if I deteriorate, we'll go, but
I would like to stay here, and he went. He
watched me. I remember him lying there watching me for
a while and listening to me breathing, and he eventually
went to sleep. And I was aware of I'd like,

(23:06):
I don't know how to explain it, as I was
aware of my body shutting down. And the best way
I've come to explain that is as you would go
around the house at night and shut the house down,
lock the doors, turn off the light, switch a light
of that room, shut down that room, shut down, and

(23:28):
you're just shutting it all down before you go to
sleep at night. It was like my body. I was
going around my body shutting it all down, or I was,
but it was shutting down too. Then I was really
just aware of my energy, and by that I mean
my essence. That's what I was aware of. I was

(23:48):
in a lot of pain with the meningitis, and I
the first thing probably I was aware of was the
pain paid it it dissolved the moments before I felt
my essence leave my body. And this may feel weird,

(24:11):
will sound weird. It left through my Feet's a weird
thing to say, but for me that was how it happened,
my essence through my feet. And as with the first NDA,
I was aware I was at ceiling height looking down
at my body, but this time I knew I was

(24:34):
looking at my body and again thinking I don't look
like that, or that doesn't look like me. So I
had that awareness, and I remember feeling a lot of
compassion from that body that I had left, and I

(24:55):
was I wasn't distressed as as I said, the first
time I distressed, I didn't feel attached. I wasn't. It's
weird when I say I was thinking, because how can
I think. I haven't got a brain. The brain's in

(25:16):
that body. And when I say I was looking, or
how can I see because I don't have eyes, So
I guess I was as I said, I'm curious. I was.
I was curious about my awareness existing and how I
was thinking, just how I thought in my human jumpsuit,

(25:40):
meaning my how I think, you know, how we all
think differently. Some of us are a bit quirky somewhere,
you know, some of some really have more of a
jokey side to us. Or my characteristics or my personality persistent,
it existed, and I was curious about that, Like I

(26:05):
feel just like I did in my human body, I
feel like me. And I also was curious about how
I'm looking at my human body. It's there, but I
feel like I have a body. Much the same as

(26:28):
when someone has an amputated limb and they describe they
feel sense they have that limb, they have phantom pain.
They have pain in that limb that no longer exists.
It's like having a phantom body. It was like I
had a phantom body. So I felt like I had
form or shape, and I thought, oh, that's really I'm

(26:53):
existing as pure awareness or pure consciousness. And I feel
just like I did as Sarah in that human jumpsuit,
which was which was kind of I didn't have that
awareness first time around about I still exist as me,

(27:19):
which is cool, right, we all it's not cool to
be still you, right of course, of course that's how
I felt anyway. I was just that awareness, Yeah, just
that awareness, I'm me and I'm existing as me, and

(27:39):
I exist. And I doubt I was aware of anti
gravity like a pool, an anti gravity pool through the ceiling.
The ceiling no longer existed, and I'm going to have
to say I was pulled up through the ceiling, but

(28:01):
that's my human understanding. And there really was no sense
of direction, if I really try and accurately describe it,
I had no sense of direction other than I have
to say I went up because to see it in
our human minds, that's up in our spatial understanding of Earth.

(28:23):
I went up, and I traveled up and then I
was aware of that pulling into space whehere there was
in the distance, and I would like to say I

(28:47):
saw it, but I also felt it. I was also
became part of it, this most magnificent, bright white light
that it was like nothing. I wasn't like light here.
It was alive and it was dynamic, and it was

(29:12):
pure love. I have to say it's light, but it
was the most beautiful love I've ever experienced, like love here,
but to the power of a million, a million like
it was. It was love. And I knew as I
got closer that the most it was unconditional, non judgmental

(29:43):
love that I I knew it was the source of everything.
So I knew I just as I'd woken up with
a knowing, I'm not going to be here tomorrow. I
knew it was the source of I knew it was
where I came came from. I knew it was where
I returned to. I knew it was. It felt like

(30:06):
I was coming home. It felt like when you go
on a really nice holiday and you have a lot
of fun and it's really really great fun, and you
come home and you go, oh so good to be home,
and You've got your own bed and your own favorite
mug and your own cup of tea, and it just
feels so good to be home, even though you've just

(30:26):
had a really good holiday. It felt like that. It
felt familiar. It just felt familiar, and I was happy
to be home.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
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Speaker 2 (30:50):
I knew it was the foundation of everything. I knew.
It created me and I I guess I feel that
it's what we all reference, but we use different words
depending on our beliefs. We all have a different label
for what this light is. It was love, and it

(31:14):
was sourceable, and it was the foundation, like love is
the foundation of all consciousness. And I knew that. And
so while in this space of this love dimension, I
now refer to it as I went to the love dimension,
I became aware of the presence of three beings. And

(31:42):
they were also familiar, like meeting, like meeting someone i'd
met in preschool or I don't know what you call
it in America, preschool, like you haven't seen them for
a very long time in your now in your fifties,

(32:04):
or like I am, and they're familiar, you know, them,
and that remembering as you spend more time with them,
you sort of remember them more and more. I actually
don't know how to explain that. But I knew them
and they knew me everything about me, and everything was thought.

(32:29):
So I'm going to say thought like conscious thought. I'm
existing as consciousness and able to have a conscious thought.
Everything I thought was telepathically communicated, and the beings communicated.
They were my guides. One of them had more prominence.

(32:53):
I'm not going to say more importance, but one of
them had more prominence energetically, and I knew that to
be my master guide who had been with me forever
and ever in every incarnation, and they communicated with me.

(33:15):
It was sort of like, let's see how that went.
Let's just see how that went. And that's referencing a
life review. And I was to review what my life was.
And it's like watching a movie where you're the lead actor,

(33:39):
but you're not just watching. So I wasn't just watching
my life. I was observing that. I was experience, like
experiencing it from multiple perspectives. My perspective of me playing
the scene, and the other the other person that or

(34:00):
people that were in that scene, and experiencing it as
they experienced it. So and then I was also reviewing
it with my guide, So all of those things all
at the same time, experiencing, participating, experiencing it at the

(34:21):
other and reviewing the intent, the intent I had in
that moment, and experiencing what that the ripple effect that
had on another and if I had if I had
really positive effect, or I experienced that how the other

(34:43):
experienced it, but if I had affected someone negatively and
caused suffering or pain, or I experienced that as they
experienced it, and also the ripple effect that that had
going out into their reality, their reality, and like lots

(35:04):
of the continuum of that effect. So I it was
like I felt it was experiencing it as a felt
experience of it all. I don't know if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
It makes all the sense of the world. I've done
over one hundred of these interviews, so completely makes subtal
sense because I've heard, I've heard what you're going through
from multiple different perspectives. To my understanding, that's a life review.
And in a life review, you feel, you feel what
you felt at the moment of that scene, and you
also feel how it affected the other person as well,

(35:47):
so you're actually at the exact same time. If you
hurt somebody, you feel the hurt. If you're kind to someone,
you feel how that person felt when you were kind
to them. And it's kind of like and you you
don't go through your whole life like that. You go
through specific scenes, if you will better using the movie terminology,
it's these kind of scenes. When you were looking at
your life review, was it like a bunch of screens

(36:10):
up on like in the air, almost like a Minority
Report with Tom Cruise when there's like scenes all over
the place and you're kind of moving things around.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
It was it was like that it was your awareness.
So where you direct your awareness is what you are
literally focusing in on. It's like the macro and micro
and macro. My awareness was being directed to where my
guides would have it. So the scene that we would

(36:40):
be looking at and examining it, or not examining, but reviewing,
and what you put your awareness on expands in consciousness
so that it's sort of like you zoom in with
a camera like you're I don't know a cameraman, and
you can zoom into one thing and though everything else

(37:01):
exists around it, your awareness is like that. It's like
the camera zooming in on one focal point. And that's
the life review really highlighted awareness in that regards and
also intent. It really highlighted how important your intent is.

(37:21):
And I had not given that. I had never given
that any thought. What intent am I holding? But for this,
for this moment, for this interaction, for for everything. What
are my intent? And is my intent in this moment
of good of good for all? Or I didn't? I

(37:45):
now understand intent, how important intent is and how it
the big role that it plays in the co creation
process of reality, of the reality I'm going to that
you're going to walk into, anyone will walk into. Your
intent is a really powerful tool in that co creation

(38:06):
process with consciousness. And that's probably been my big take
home of a life review is what you do and
your intent in each moment matters. And I think the
concept of heaven and hell. Think about if you're reviewing

(38:27):
your life and you have predominantly done, thought, said, acted
in a way that brought happiness and joy and all
the positive good stuff to others, that's what you're going
to experience in your life review. That will be the

(38:49):
experience over and over again, of each scene that might
feel like heaven or might be a heaven experience, if,
on the other hand, you've predominantly was pain and suffering,
and that is your experience through every scene as what
you've experienceding it as the other that may feel like hell.

(39:12):
I think that is my understanding of heaven and hell
is how you're living your life now becomes your heaven
or hell because you're going to experience it as what
you've done here, what you've lived your life as.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
But also from what I understand, it's not as a
punishment more so as an awareness. There's no judgment. There's
no it's more lack of an awareness, kind of like
you're looking at like a video game character and going,
I really shouldn't turn left instead of turning right, kind
of vibe when you said something it was really interesting
with your guide saying well, let's see how you did

(39:55):
it seems so nonchalant. And we take our lives as
we do because we are down here, we are in it.
And I always use the example of a video game.
If Mario is running around trying to save the princess,
it's really important to Mario not to get squashed by
a monster or hit by a flaming arrow or something

(40:16):
when you're in the game, but looking at it from
this point of view, it's like, doesn't have the same feeling.
Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (40:24):
I completely agree. And I was such a serious head.
I look back now at my life leading up to that,
and I was so serious all the time, and everything,
really the things that mattered didn't matter, and the things
that really mattered you didn't put enough of your energy

(40:47):
into because you're so busy living this life and being
so serious about it all.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
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and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, no, it's not about judgment. None of it was
about judgment. It's just part of your soul evolution, that
reviewing process. As I'm evolving here that never stops. Everything
here holds true, none of it changes. I still am me,
I still feel like me, I still think like me,

(41:24):
and I'm still my soul is still evolving and I'm
still learning, and it's basically a reviewing and I'm I'm
the only one that could have judgment of me. No one,
no other entity or being or God or is judging it.

(41:45):
It's me. So that I think it's so it consolidates
in your soul. Next time round, my soul will have memory.
It will have it will have It had a huge
impact act on me so that I may take a
different action next time I come to come and play

(42:08):
on Earth. And I'm not serious anymore. It actually has
changed my perspective so much in circumstances that I would
have probably got really upset about or may have topped
me over a little bit in the past. I actually
am able to sit back and actually be a little

(42:29):
bit like that, sit back and observe it. And I
know that sounds weird, but I sit back and I
watch the scene that I've just that's happenings. I watch it.
I'm it really doesn't matter if I can just turn
up as love in this moment, and that may be
love for self if it's a challenging moment. I just

(42:49):
I really now my intent. I always try and be
very aware of what's my intent and bring that into
each moment. I look at it and I'm like, is
this a biggie? Probably not. I don't really need to
get upset. It's going to be okay. It will all
work out, and it may look like something that in

(43:11):
the past, I would have gone, this is horrible. I am,
this is the most horrible thing that could happen, probably
also because I look at it through the lens of
the most horrible thing that can happen to you is
usually the opportunity for the greatest soul growth and evolution.

(43:33):
And what I've looked at is you can look back as, oh,
that stroke. That's a horrible thing to happen to someone
who's thirty five to have a stroke. But in truth,
it was wonderful because I existed when I had my stroke.

(43:54):
My part, my right side of my brain was more.
My left side was affected a market, so my consciousness
I was existing sort of like I was out of
my body as an awareness without that executive function of
the prefrontal call t ext, I was assessing life and

(44:16):
planning life. It was very different. I couldn't talk, I
couldn't walk, I couldn't communicate. My eye was shut down,
and it took me a long time. I had to
learn to talk again. I had but that helped me
cultivate patients, and I really needed to cultivate patients. I'm
the first person to say I was really patient. So

(44:37):
something needed to happen to patients, and that was a
really good fast track to it. And also when my
father had a stroke, I was able to turn up
as the daughter I would have liked to have turned
up as. And I would not have been able to
do that if I hadn't experienced to stroke myself, To
have the patients hate an hour, to feed a teaspoon

(44:59):
of food, or to communicate, and know, even though he's
not talking back to me, he understands what I'm saying.
He knows what I'm saying to him. And so back
to that perspective of it could be perceived as suffering,
it could be perceived as a really horrible thing to happen.

(45:21):
It was a really good thing. It was a great
opportunity to develop, obviously things I needed to develop and
to throughout my whole illness experience. It's been multiple things
that maybe looked at as horrible, but now I look
at as they weren't. They really weren't. They were opportunities

(45:45):
for me to learn, for me to evolve, and I'm grateful.
I actually am grateful, grateful for it all.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Yeah, Now, so while you're going through the life review,
what happens after you've gone through the life.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
For ye okay, so when that's finished, so the video
screens are gone, and that's finished, and my master guide
and the two other guides, it was if their essence
or presence demand I don't want to say diminished, but receded.
It was like they're receded. And then I was aware

(46:24):
of my father's presence, essence. It came more into dominance,
and I was so happy. I was so happy to
see him. He died when he passed about a year earlier,
at the age of ninety two, and he'd had dementia
for a few years, and I'd gone through a lot

(46:50):
in that period that I didn't think he was aware of.
And even in the last year when he had passed,
having that was the year of my youthful year of chemotherapy.
And the first thing he communicated it was telepathic. It
was no spoken words. It was a telepathic vibrational communication.

(47:14):
And so it was like words but also feelings all
being communicated telepathically, and he communicated his love for me,
and that he knew what I'd been through and that
he was proud of my fight, and he beckoned to

(47:37):
me as he had when I was a little girl,
like you put out your hands for a little kid
to come to you, and said stairy fairy, which is
what he called me as a little girl. And it
was the love that we were sending to one another.

(47:58):
It was it was so it was just like it
was really lovely to see him again. And he as
he was on earth. To me, he was as my father,
He was my mentor. He taught, He was always teaching me.
And he sort of like my guides had said, let's

(48:19):
see how this goes, or with how this went, he
was he went sort of. The communication was along the
lines of hey, look at this, look at this, And
he directed his awareness off to the right and to
the distance and for me to do the same. And

(48:40):
as I did that, I was aware that what I
was putting my awareness on was expanding and unfolding infinitely.
And he telepathically communicated, and I was understood, I don't

(49:02):
know how this limited brain, under this limited brain can't
understand it here, but there I have the capacity of
understanding everything, and like, oh yeah, I know that your
awareness co creates with consciousness and it makes it expand

(49:23):
and unfold. And that's what he was showing me. And
he was like, isn't that cool? That's what he is
sort of is right. I was like, Yeah, that's sort
of that's really cool. And I think that's really important
when now back in back in human form, what I

(49:46):
put my awareness on is going to become my reality.
That's what's going to expand in consciousness, and I'm going
to co create with consciousness the reality I walk into,
and awareness and intention are the tools for that. And
we do it every day with what we say and

(50:09):
what we do, our actions, our words, our thoughts, they create.
They're like the It's like you've got your blank canvas
as a painter, and awareness is the paint brush, and
your thoughts and your words and your actions are the
paint colors, and you get to paint the scene that

(50:34):
you're going to step into, and intention supercharges that supercharges
what you're going to create. And I guess that's what
I was understanding as I was watching it, and I
know it's like, how do you explain consciousness expanding? How
do you explain what that looks like?

Speaker 1 (50:56):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
And there's really not much of a human equivalent other
than I remember watching when I was a little girl,
watching the Scottish males and the fog rolling over the
Scottish males, like coming towards like rolling towards me, and

(51:26):
it's sort of like make that in reverse and rolling
the other way and expanding infinitely. That's the sort of
the only way I can expand, like explain infinite expansion
of consciousness as you're watching it unfold in front of you.

(51:47):
And so then after that, his presence or dominance seemed
to recede again, and my guides came more into dominance,
and I was told that I was going to have
a healing I was going to go to a healing space.

(52:10):
And it was a dome shaped building room and it
had an arched doorway, and my guides directed me through
it and communicated me to lie down. And as I
was saying at the beginning, I had form, like not

(52:34):
human body, but I had the sense of form. And
I laid down, and my and master guide was at
my head, and my other guides were at the size
of my arms, and there were three other healing beings

(52:55):
in that space. That's what I was communicated that they
were healing being and they were at my feet and
around my legs, and the healing was for my soul
for what it had been through in my human incarnation.

(53:19):
And it was really really beautiful, vibrational like hum. It
was like a vibrational feeling and sound that traveled through me.
And it traveled through like like a warm gold, warm

(53:43):
liquid gold, just passing and it felt magnificent. Oh my gosh,
I could feel that for it. It was beautiful. It
was so beautiful. It's like I don't know, having having
a really beautiful massage or something you never wanted to
end like, it's just.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
It was.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
It was healing. It was just healing. And when that
was finished, and I'm not going to reference. Time is
another thing. I can't give a reference to how long
sure anything was. Time does not exist in that dimension

(54:25):
as it exists as in the context that we frame it.
It's it's not there's no time reference. And I can
talk more about time if you wish. My understanding of
it in the concept of now like everything is now

(54:50):
that we look at it like time like past, now, future,
And how I do how I explain it now is
take that horizontal and make it vertical, and now all
time is stacked on top of each other, and the past,
the present, the future are all stacked together. I think

(55:15):
of it like a you know, a jukebox in the
old movies, and there's a jukebox in the corner and
there's all the records lined up, and you go and
put your coin and the little arm goes So think
of time like that. So turn the jukebox around vertically,
and all the records are lined up, and your awareness
is the arm that goes in and picks the record

(55:37):
out and brings it out. And then you can sharpen
your awareness. Like I was watching my life review, you
can focus in your awareness. So you can focus in
your awareness on a track on that record, and that's
the reality you're living. That's what you're experiencing. Your awareness

(55:58):
is in so it all exists. Everything exists, but you
are just watching what your awareness is this life of
Alex or Sarah. What what we are experiencing now is
just what our awareness is placed on. It's all that
we can perceive at that that's what is available to

(56:23):
us in the human in the once we're in this
human jumpsuit and we're limited by our human brain computer.
But of course when you pop out of your body.
It's pure awareness and you're able to be all of it.
It's so different. It's different. You're not limited anymore. And

(56:45):
I at the end of my experience, I, oh, maybe
I'll get to that where I was showing the time
space energy field.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
How that go ahead? Yeah, how does that work?

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Look about it? Now?

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Sure, go for it?

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Okay. So, as I was at the end, it was
like I was when I was falling back into my body.
It was like I was plugged into consciousness. Like you
get a power plug and put it in the wall socket.
It was like that, and just downloading everything i'd been curious,

(57:26):
Like everything that I had been thinking about or curious
about was like downloading past lives. And I know, I
was curious about time and space and energy and how
does all this work? And because I don't think about
the little things a right think about a big concept.
And I was shown, so think about mass. I don't know,

(57:48):
when you're at school you have grid paper for mass
when you're learning mass. And sure, so put in print
a grid like on consciousness, and it's flew and dynamic
and that grid is moving. That grid are unified fields
of time and space and energy all imprinted on consciousness

(58:13):
and then turn it and flip it like what we
would think of like a black hole, you know how
when you watch a black hole and it's curved in
and collapsing on itself. So they put the grid that
was imprinted on consciousness like that, and they had it
all collapsing in on itself to demonstrate to me what

(58:40):
the unified fields of time and the unified field of
space and energy and how they're interwoven and interacting like
dynamically and then collapsing in on each other. That's how
it was represented to me. And that's the best that's
the best way I can. I'm very limited in how,

(59:02):
but I understood that they are not independent, and they
are intriquately interwoven together as part of consciousness as we are,
like we're all we're all interwoven, and it's like this
intricate web. And you can obviously then manipulate with your

(59:27):
own awareness. And that's how we're co creating all the time,
not just creating, but co creating with consciousness. And I
think that's why I can't do time. I don't get
chose track of time all the time. Now to keep

(59:47):
track of anything now, I have to have people ring
me and say, hey, you're meant to be somewhere, or
I have to have multiple alarms on my phone to
get me anywhere at the right time. And I was
not like that before. I was is always on time,
ten minutes early all the time. Now it's really tricky
and I find it hard to talk about time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
So when did so what point did you finish your
your experience? After they showed you that?

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Then what well before that? I after the healing experience,
my father came back into dominance and he said, Oh,
we've got to go to I've got to go to
opor like the welcoming party. We've got to go to everyone.
Now everyone's waiting, Like everyone's waiting, let's go. They're waiting

(01:00:35):
for you. And where he was looking, I watched him there.
You could see everyone that I knew and loved in
Sarah's existence that had passed.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
And it was like a celebrating the feeling you can say, like, oh,
she's coming, she's coming. And as I got there, it
was like like a big reunion. I'd like to say
school reunion, but not a lot of people love their
school reunion, so I'm not going to compare it to that.
But it was like a big party, like the best
party you've ever been to, and it was everyone was

(01:01:24):
so excited to see me and was lined up. It
was my mum's lineage on one side and my father's
lineage on the other side, and then beyond that, friends
and colleagues and you know, people that I had loved
and meant a lot to me and who had a

(01:01:47):
role in my life, all just sending me love and
celebrating my life. And we might think, well, I didn't
really do much. Hey, I didn't achieve much. I didn't,
but celebrating like it was the best thing that they
ever witnessed. It was really I think now I look

(01:02:15):
at it as if everything celebrated, every little thing, all
of it, your whole life, and like we put so
much importance and we make it so serious, but it's
it's just you existed. You existed, and that's being celebrated
and everything your love amplified. And as I was proceeding

(01:02:41):
through this line or people wind up, I wasn't thinking
about the life. I'd let it. I wasn't thinking about
anything about my life. And the reason I say this
is I got to a point where there was I

(01:03:04):
stopped something. It was like an energetic boundary or threshold,
and I knew if I step over this threshold, and
it was like an energetic and obviously it's nothing physical there,
I don't get to come go back. I don't get
to go back to that life. And I hadn't been

(01:03:27):
thinking about it. I hadn't been worried about it. And
I turned to my father and as soon as I
think it, his received it, and he looks he said, yes,
be affirmed. What I was asking is, yeah, you've got
a choice now, and no choice is right or wrong.

(01:03:49):
If you keep if you step over this threshold, if
you keep going, you don't get to go back. You
get to stay here, you're healthy, you have no pain,
and or you can go back and you go back
to your sick body, you go back to challenges and pain,
and no choice is wrong. And I instantly then thought

(01:04:16):
of my children. And as soon as I thought of
my children, I was if you could yell telepathically, I
yelled no. So I don't know that I can. I
don't know that you can yell at teleopathically, but I did.
I yelled no, and as soon as I yelled, I

(01:04:38):
started falling. It was like a roller coaster, and I
hate roller coasters. I hate anything really fast, and that
it was. It was a fast, not fall or I
can only say fall, but it was like a roller
coaster pulling me back. And that's when I felt like

(01:04:59):
I was play ugged into consciousness and I was downloading
as I was falling back into me, into my body,
and past lives flashing like flash flash flash flash flash light.
Do you know those books that I don't know if
you had them when you were little and the page

(01:05:19):
would start with one line on it and then as
you flicked through.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
It, Yeah, and animation animation.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Story, because it was like that with past lives on
each page, just flicking through them and quickly observing them
as I was falling back into my body, and I
was aware of getting back into my body. And the
only way I can say that is I think I

(01:05:48):
was aware of how am I going to fit? How?
Because I was expanded, How am I going to fit
back into that? I don't know if I thought how,
but I went, that's I'm not going to get back in,
but it felt like really tight, like I was squeezing
into clothes that were five sizes too small and uncomfortable.

(01:06:11):
It was just uncomfortable, and I was aware of how
heavy and dense I felt, because I felt I wasn't
aware of feeling light when I was existing in a
non form. I wasn't aware that I'm not breathing, or
that I'm really light, or that I'm really expansive. I

(01:06:32):
only became aware of that when I was back in
my body, of the contrast of how heavy and dense
and I've got to breathe, and that's like, I don't
have to worry about that when I'm non physical, But
that was aware trying to breathe, like trying to get

(01:06:55):
air into my lungs. And that's what woke my husband up,
because I was gasping and trying to breathe and he
grabbed for my pulse. That's and I think the only
way I can explain that is when you're with someone
who's really, really sick for a decade and he's medically

(01:07:16):
trained that that's your impulse, immediately feel for a pulse.
And I remember him saying, Oh, your pulse is really thready,
which means really weak. Then and he's like, are you okay?
Are you okay? And yeah, and I'm back. I'm back

(01:07:40):
in my body and back in pain, back in immense pain.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
So after this, after this event, after this experience, I'm
assuming you didn't put it away this time now you
started to embrace it a little bit more. Can you
just tell the audience how you dealt with it when
you came.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
It's really interesting the reintegration period after such an extensive experience.
As I said, there are things that I struggle with.
I didn't tell anyone about it for probably a month.

(01:08:20):
I wanted to, I wanted to sit with it. I
didn't even know. I didn't know the term near death experience.
And even that I sort of have issue with because
it's not a near death experience. It's not near it's
a death experience. It is a death experience. It's not like,

(01:08:40):
oh it almost, It's not like it almost happened. It happened.
And for me, I always say I've had a death experience.
I think I knew, just as I knew I was
going to not be there the next day, I knew
I needed I needed to sit with it. I needed

(01:09:02):
to consolidate what it was and the insights and how
can it inform how we live our life. The wisdom
and insights a death experience I think can give us
all about Like you were saying, we don't have to

(01:09:23):
be so serious. We're actually here to live a life
of joy. We're actually here to do the things that
light us up. We're actually here to go, well, it
lights me up. Let's do that. Instead of judging it
and going, oh, I can't do that, everyone will think
that's wrong. Just do what you're here to be. I
think I journaled it. I wrote it all down. I

(01:09:46):
wrote everything down, and I didn't listen. There were I
actually don't even know that there were podcasts like this
available back in twenty eighteen. I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
I started in twenty nineteen. There was a few, but
there were few and far between. It is really ramped
up in the last four to five years. I've only
been doing the show for a little bit over three years,
so so twenty twenty one is when I started. So
it was a few years later, yeah, but there was
a few shows, but not a whole lot by any stretch.

(01:10:21):
It was now everyone's got a near death experience show,
and everyone talks about this kind of stuff, but it
wasn't around even twenty eighteen. It was not very not
very spoken about publicly. We'll be right back after a
word from our sponsor, and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
And I guess that's why I didn't. I didn't tell.
I really didn't tell anyone until a really dear friend
came over and I said, I'd like to share with
her what happened. And I sat and told her about it,
and she said to me that she just said, oh,

(01:11:06):
you you're different, like you're different now, you're just more
peaceful and more and yeah, she just said, I seemed
so much more peaceful. And I guess that's a gift
of it, right. I feel, yes, like at pace.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
With it all, you know, from you know, I have
a perspective that you might not have because I've spoken
to so many people who had near death experiences, have
had deep conversations with so many people have near death experiences,
and the thing is that you are correct. I would
say most of them have a much more peaceful outlook

(01:11:47):
on life. They look at things very differently than the
rest of us. They're kind of aware of the game
that we're playing. They've seen behind the curtain, so they
don't take things as seriously. The couple that I had
that were hellish experiences, there's very few, but they actually
had a hellish experience. Came back different, no question. But

(01:12:14):
one of the ones that had a hellish experience, she said,
I had to go through that because of my own
belief system. I believe that this is what I had
to go through for my own punishment. But then I
was able to come out the other end. They generally
always from my understanding, from my experience, at least come
out the other end. Something saves them. Jesus shows up,
an angel shows up, a light shows up and gets

(01:12:34):
them out of where they are. But to ask your question, yet,
they are much more peaceful. The energy that comes off
of a near death experience or a death experience or
in your case, is very is very peaceful generally speaking,
and they just their whole life changes to the point
where they they feel that they have to share their story.

(01:12:55):
If they're at that place in their evolution that they
have to share other story. Many of them take it
to the next level, start teaching, start speaking, writing books.
Because it's kind of like this, like I was sent
back with this information. I need to get it out
to as many people as possible. Does that sound familiar.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Yeah, there are two points from what you've just said,
and the first being how we're creating our beliefs, what
we believe. It's sort of like plus ebo effects, if
you you know, we're talking about place ebo effects, and
it's not as simple of just saying what you believe

(01:13:34):
is what happens. It's from the human level. They're very
different placebo effects that happen like from a medical understanding
of your brain digs like a chemistry lab, and your
beliefs inform what chemicals you know, what hormones will be.
At least what you're going to what's going to happen

(01:13:55):
physically in your body will be influenced by your beliefs.
What's going to happen in your life is going to
be influenced by your beliefs. You are energetically creating your
future with your beliefs. So our thoughts, our intents, our
words arect but belief plays a really big role in it,

(01:14:15):
and it does everything that holds true in how you
are creating. And it's the same even in non physical form.
That's why we have such very death experiences and the
accounts of them are so different, because what my beliefs
are going to inform my experience. I am going to

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co create my experience with consciousness, and it also has
to have an element I think of familiarity, so you
don't freak out because you've just had a whole experience
where you've had amnesia and you don't remember this place,
and now you're back and you sort of need that

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sense of it feels like home or a bit familiar.
But you are going to co create that experience, and
you're going to create it through belief. If I believe,
like you said, if I believe I'm going to be
punished or there's going to be this is what. This
is how I think of it. I feel that I

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didn't have I didn't have an under I didn't have
an understanding of life reviews or healing chambers or welcoming
parties or anything like that. I actually didn't have a
belief system about it. However, I also didn't have a
belief of judgment or punishment or hell or I don't

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have any of that either.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
So I.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Do believe that explains why every experience is different. It
has to be because it's not only catered for you,
but created by you in co creation with souls.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
It's tailored.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
He I understand it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
Yeah, it's tailored to your something to make you feel
comfortable to go through the process. And if you feel
like you have to go through hell or you have
to be judged, then that's what will happen. But generally speaking,
it's Taylor, That's why. Generally and not always. But like
I heard death experience the other day where Jesus shows up.

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And Jesus I always say is the hardest working man
in show business because he shows up a lot of
near death experiences. But this, but this Jesus showed up
in a suit, in a three piece suit, and he
goes and the guy, the guy knew who Jesus was
but wasn't a Christian, and he goes Jesus, he goes, yes,

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he goes, why are you wearing a suit? He goes, well,
that's the only way you would take me seriously because
you come from the business world. Yeah, and he's and
then they starts they both start to laugh at it.
He's like, Okay, now you know because it's normally it's
the robe or something along those lines. Sarah's been such
a pleasure talking to you, and thank you so much
for sharing your your beautiful experience with us. I'm gonna

(01:17:11):
ask you a few questions. I ask, oh, my guests, what
is your definition of living a fulfilling life.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
That's a really hard one, Alex. I think my definition
would be to live it as who you are on
it be you, don't edit it, don't don't live it
how other people think you should live it. Do find
what lights you up and do that and just live

(01:17:41):
it big and grab it and live it all. And
it's amazing, all of it. It's just it's amazing. I
life is so much fun, and instead of putting our
awareness on the negative, look at all like everything, there's
so much to be grateful for. I just live it
as you be you and you like we're all love right,

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but bring your spark to life. And I know we're
all here in service to others to be love like verb.
That's what we're here for. We're here, that's what this
whole fun games about. To remember who we are and
all these experiences and opportunities that may look like illness

(01:18:26):
or losing someone you love. They're all just in service
to you to wake you up so you remember who
you are, which is I'm love. I'm here to be
love in all my thoughts, words and actions and on
mass consciousness. That's how everything evolves. That's why we're here.
But Hayley, look, have fun, like here to do it.

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Have fun. Fill your life with joy and all the
good stuff. That sounds like a fulfilling life to me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Now, if you had a chance to go back in time,
what advice would you give yourself, your little self lot Sarah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
I think just that don't be so serious. It's you know,
just don't be don't be so serious, be in the now, Like,
don't don't spend your life worrying about things in the
past or having anxiety or stressing about the future, because
you'll realize that you didn't spend any of your life

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living the moment you were in. You spend it all
time traveling in the past or the future and not
where you are, Like, live where you are, be where
you are, and don't be so serious about it all.
And it's don't take yourself so seriously. Get over yourself. Literally,
get over yourself. It's not about it's really not about you.

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It's do you know what?

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
Ever? And where can people find out more about you
and the work that you're doing in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Okay, I've set up my personal website, which is Sarah
Jane dot com and dot and I've setting up a
little soul academy because, as you mentioned before, a lot
of us that come back. No, we've come back to
do some soul work too. And I'm in the process

(01:20:15):
of writing a book about my experience that will come
out probably early in the next year. I'm actually in
the process of writing three. Another thing about me, I
like to just do everything.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
And go for it, go for it, go for it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
So yeah, So my website is probably where I direct people.
They can hear about things as they're announced, as they
come out.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show, sir. It has been
such a pleasure and honor speaking to you. Thank you
so much for sharing your story and for helping a
week in the planet with the work that you're doing.
So thank you again.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Thank you, Alex, Thank you so much for the opportunity
to share my experience. I really appreciate it and I've
had fun chatting to.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
Thank you, I want to thank Sarah so much for
coming on the show and sharing her story with all
of us. If you want to get links to anything
we spoke about in this episode, head over to the
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