FLASHBACK FRIDAYS: How to Discover the Meaning of Your Life with Connie H. Deutsch

There are moments in your life where you run into people who will forever change your life. Today's guest was that person for me. Connie H. Deutsch is an internationally known business consultant and personal advisor who has a keen understanding of human nature and is a natural problem-solver.

She is known throughout the world for helping clients find workable solutions to complex problems. Her depth of experience lends itself to both corporate consulting and individual counseling. Perhaps Connie is best known for her “homework” assignments which serve as virtual road maps for moving clients through problems into living solutions.

In addition to her consulting and counseling practice, Connie has hosted her own weekly radio show and has been a weekly guest on a morning radio show.  She has appeared as a guest on numerous radio shows around the country and on a cable television show. She also wrote the scripts for a weekly financial show on cable television.

She is also the author of Round and Round Goes the Merry-Go-Round: Drugless Therapy for OCD (Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder), Here and There, Purple Days and Starry Nights, Whispers of the Soul®, Whispers of the Soul® for the Rest of Your Life,  View from the Sidelines, And That’s How it Goes, Are You Listening, From Where I’m Sitting, Reaching for the Brass Ring of Life,  A Slice ofLife, The Counseling Effect, and the co-author of Getting Rich While the World Falls Apart.

Connie and I discuss the big questions of life.

Why are we here?
Is this all there is?
What is my soul's mission?

We also discuss how famed Indian guru Paramahansa Yogananda life's work impacted both our our lives.

It was an absolute pleasure speaking with Connie. Her insights and wisdom truly rocked me to the core of my soul. She has not publicly spoken for over a decade so I was extremely humbled that she agreed to be on the show. Enjoy!


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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
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today's episode. Disclaimer. The views and opinions expressed in this

(01:26):
podcast are those of the guests and do not necessarily
reflect the views or positions of this show, its host,
or any of the companies they represent. There are moments
in your life where you run into people who will
change forever your life's journey. Today's guest was that person

(01:46):
for me. We have on the show best selling author,
radio personality, internationally known business consultant and personal advisor, Kannie H. Deutsch. Now,
Connie has not given a public interview for over a decade,
so I was very humbled and honored that she would
agree to be on the show. And we talked about

(02:09):
the big questions of life. Why are we here? Is
this all there is? What is your soul's mission? The
power of visualization and how it affects your life if
used properly. And we also do a little bit of
a deep dive into the famed Indian guru Paramhanza Yomananda

(02:29):
and how his life's work impacted both of our lives.
He was an absolute pleasure speaking with Connie and her
insights and wisdom truly rocked me to the core of
my soul. So let's dive in. I like to welcome
to the show, Kanyie Deutschman. How are you doing, Connie?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I'm doing right. How about you?

Speaker 1 (02:52):
I'm doing fantastic. Thank you so much for agreeing to
come on the show. I'm very, very excited because I've
known you now for a couple of years at least,
and we've worked together for many, many years, and I
wanted to talk about multiple topics. But for people who
don't know who you are, can you tell people a
little bit about your books, your career, what you've done

(03:14):
in the counseling and consulting world.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Okay, I'm a business consultant. I'm also personal advisor. I'm
also a counselor. I've written my thirteenth book now and
twelve of them are on Amazon, and I have a
publishing company, and I've written something like twelve hundred articles

(03:39):
that have been published.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
You've done plenty of stuff. You've been around, You've been around.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I was enough to have been around.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Absolutely Now, how did you fall into counseling and business consultation?

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I think it was probably by accident. I'm not quite sure,
but I want to ask you something please. I mean,
Next Level Soul is a very evocative title. How did
you come up with that title?

Speaker 1 (04:12):
I was looking for a title, a brand, or something
that people could really understand what it was all about
pretty quickly. And I wanted to be something in the
spiritual space, something that would ask the big questions about life.
Because you know, from my other podcasts that are focused
more in the entertainment and film industries, I would dabble
in that in that audience, but I felt a little bit,

(04:34):
you know, I wanted to express myself and kind of
go and explore these topics in ways that I just
couldn't in my other show. So I wanted to kind
of create this new platform where I could reach out
and talk to, you know, guests like yourselves about deeper
questions about life. Where I still love everything I do
in the film and entertainment industry, but I also want

(04:56):
to go a little bit broader, a little bit bigger,
and see what we can do as far as answering
questions and helping people through this podcast and through the
work I do through that company.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Well, you are a very special person. I've always known
that in the what twenty five years that I've known you,
something like that, something like that, and You've always been
very special and I've always felt that you had a
larger purpose in life than what you were doing. I
still feel that way. I still feel that you haven't

(05:28):
cracked the beginning of it yet.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
I'm trying that just in the.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Beginning stages of it, and you're going to be a
huge success.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Because well, this is why I keep you around, kind
of to stroke my ego.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
No, no, I'm not surge at your audiences. But your ego
isn't a bashing every time that you talk.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
To me, fair enough, that's also the truth. That's why
I was laughing. But yeah, thank you for that. But
I'm just trying to help people through the work that
I do, and I'm slowly discovering more about myself and
more about what I'm here to do. And originally it was,
you know, just one thing, and now it's a multitude

(06:19):
of things. And I've never been happier, and I've never
been able to help more people through the different channels
that I work through. It has been an experience, to
say the least, and the journey I know, in many
ways is just beginning.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Well, you asked me about how I started to counsel,
and everything really by accident. I woke up one day
and I said, is that old? There is a wife?
You know. I'm happy with what I do. I'm very contented.
I have enough of an income to live within my means.
I don't require very much. I'm not a materialistic individual,

(06:56):
and I guess happy very easily. But there has to
be something greater than what I'm experiencing. I'm feeling like
I'm an avoid there's nothing else around me, just nothing.
I can do this, I can do that, I can
do the other thing. It's not feeling me. And then

(07:17):
I got my first person who came to me and
wanted to know what I saw for him. And I
didn't know what the hell he was talking about. And
he told me he was the CEO of a company
and he was very concerned about the overpopulation that we
were going through at that time, and he said, how
are we going to manage millions of people? And without

(07:40):
baddy and eyelash. I said, well, we're not going to
have to worry about that, because millions of people are
going to die he said, that is such a morbid thought.
You know, you wouldn't be ashamed of yourself, And I
wasn't really meant to sincerely, And look what happened. We
have the pandemic. Where we have lost new is the

(08:00):
people around the world. Our population is nowhere near where
we were expecting it to be. All of a sudden,
we don't have enough children being born. When I first
heard that many many years ago, that we need more children,
I thought to myself, we can't even be the children
we have. And now look, it's the children who are

(08:21):
going to be supporting the older people in the different
programs that are designed for older people of Social Security
perfect example, medicare another example. How are we going to
supply the needs if we don't have enough children who
are growing up and bringing money into the system. So

(08:44):
it's an ongoing things and I think that we have
to have answers in the near future. And that's where
you're going to come into, Alex. You are going to
pave the road to let people know the larger picture.
God Willing, I'm not going to be around to see that.

(09:06):
I'm going to see it from the other side, and
I'm going to laugh to myself and say, see, I
told you, I told you, And that's what's going to happen.
You're going to be one of the people who are
going to have this tremendous ability at mass communications. Right
now you're starting in the film industry. That's not the

(09:27):
be all and all for you. That's just the beginning,
and you're going to see many, many changes in the world,
some of which you are going to be the ones
who implement it. So get ready for that, because I
can feel it coming from you. Anyone who's around you
longer than five minutes is going to feel bad. There's

(09:49):
an energy about you that just reaches out to people,
and I certainly felt that when I met you twenty
five years ago. I knew you were going to be
everything special. I knew you were special. It just took
you a little while to catch up.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
I'm a slow learner. As they say, no, you're not.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Oh, you learn so quickly, you retain everything. I'm very
careful about what I say in front of you because
I know that the next time, knows how many years
you're going to remember it for batim.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
I tend to do that.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yes you do, Yes I do.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
But when you're working with your clients. First of all,
when you ask that question like is this all there is?
What was the answer that you came up with, Because
I'm sure that's a question that so many people around
the world have, which is like, is this all there is?
For me? Is this me getting up every morning, going
to work at a nine to five, running through the

(10:52):
rat rays, coming home, paying taxes? Maybe I have a
little fun on the weekends, and then you wake up
and then fifty years have gone by, and then a
little bit later you die. And that's a good case scenario.
A lot of people it made it's a lot worse.
So what was the answer that you came up with.
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

(11:17):
and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
With me. It was very simple. First of all, the
things that you were talking about never appealed to me.
I didn't go that route. My parents always said me,
no matter what I wanted, it was no, you can't
have it. And I'd say, but all the kids have it,
and they would say you were different. So all my

(11:42):
life I kept hearing you were different, you are different,
You're different. Well, they taught me to think to myself,
to question everything, and not care about public opinion. And
then they wondered why I was such a difficult child
to raise. And I've always been difficult, traverted by nature,
very quiet for the most part, very withdrawn, and very private.

(12:06):
So for me, going on a show like this, which
is something that's very dear to my heart, is going
out of my comfort zone enormously. Yeah, it was about
many times. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
I was going to say, you've been on multiple radio shows.
You had your own radio show for a long time.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yep, a year and a half and coming to that
was an interesting situation. Program director of the radio station
quit the job, and he a couple of years went
by and all of a sudden I got a phone
call from him. He said, I'm going with a new
radio station. It's a syndicated station that's around the country,

(12:48):
and I want you on it with starting Friday morning
at nine o'clock, and you're going to be an Astrologerrata.
I don't know anything about astrology. He says, you have
between now, this is Monday. You have between now and
Friday to become an astrologer. And he hangs up the phone. Hasenstrologer. Okay,

(13:13):
and I run out to the store. Now astrology magazines
for those who have never had this experience, and I
didn't at that point. There's a different astrology magazine for
each month of the year, and that meant that I
had by twelve magazines. I bought them, came home, and

(13:35):
all the way home, I kept saying, I'm an astrologer,
I'm an astrologer, I'm an astrologer, I'm an astrologer. I
had no idea what they've been and so I sat
down with these books and I said, okay, let's make charge.
At that time, I was living in the house that
had tremendous kitchens and a tremendous backsplash, so I could

(13:58):
pin things up. Now, I could tape them up on
on back wall, and I taped every month, every sign,
and all the things that were prominent because that month, well,
that week, whatever it was, and I taped them up
that I could just run from one to the other.

(14:19):
I'll give you an example. Good morning, Alex. What's your birthdate?

Speaker 1 (14:24):
June twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
June June twenty eight, So you're a cancer. You must
be having a wonderful time you have going on this month. Oh,
you're going to be meeting people you've never met before.
They're going to be very influential in your career. Have
you met the me yet? Not yet, They're coming this week.

(14:51):
You're going to be meeting them. And this is the
way I started each week with someone saying their birth
date and me running to that sign on the wall.
I was talking about it and it was like, Oh
my god, I really do best. I'm an astrologer. I'm

(15:13):
an astrologer. I'm an astrologier. Oh, I kept thinking, I'm
an astrologist and the words just flew out of my mouth.
Apparently nobody questioned it. They will want to know better,
their birthdate is best, And I kept running from one
sign to the next time on the on the wall,
and I'm an astrologist.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
I'm an astrologist. Sure, you basically just became one out
of just saying that you were.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
That's exactly what is and that is part of the
visualization that I wanted to talk about.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, so what is your definition of visualization? Because visualization
is something that is extremely powerful and important in our
lives and some people athletes do it all the time.
You know, people at high levels do it all the
time in every aspect of life. They do it. What
is your definition of.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Visualization, It'd be the same as anyone else's. Actually, okay,
what it is a tremendous focus. One of my clients
quote and I told her her husband was dying and
she was praying, and I said, well about visualizing. He says, Oh,
I visualized every single day. I said, would you please

(16:27):
walk me through it? Whatever you do, walk me through it.
If she started and I stopped her, that's not visualization.
That's a waundry list of things. When you visualize, you
have to focus entirely on one thing and nothing else.
But it has to be such intense focus that nothing

(16:50):
interferes and has to be with everything inside of You
have to have that determination, You have to have that perseverance,
You have to have that g Everything has to be focused.
You can't think of another thing because it's going to happen.
Yoga Nanda is world famous as a yogi, said that

(17:11):
miracles are just the rearrangements of atoms and molecules, and
that's what you have to do. You have to rearrange
those atoms and molecules.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
So for people who don't know who paramhasa Yogananda is,
can you talk a little bit about who he is
and his impact on your life and career.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
He had the most tremendous impact on my career and
my life that I've ever experienced. He said, if you
don't like your life, change it. If you don't like
your karma, change it. Now. In all years, I had
never heard that karma could be changed. You know, you've
done something in the past life. You're going to have

(17:51):
retribution in this life. That's what you're here for. I
was wrong. He was right. I said, Okay, I'll give
his a shot and see how I can change it.
And I changed my life considerably. I got rid of
everything that was not important. I heard this voice inside
of me, very soft, still voice, saying, simplify your life,

(18:15):
and Alex, my life was so simple at that time.
I couldn't think of anything more to simplify. And in
doing that, I learned what Yo Gonanda was talking about.
You can't have extraneous things that are occupying you, your emotions,
your activities. It has to be very focused. Now his

(18:38):
focus was on God and that has always been my focus. Now,
in listening to him to talk about it, I said, Okay,
this has got to change. And God became the center
of my being. And that's how I learned about finding
something rather than myself, than my family, rated than my activities,

(19:05):
that's something that was missing in my life. That's something
that was bigger than anything that I had ever encountered,
and so I concentrated on that. I heard a woman
was talking about God holding one end of the rubber
band and you holding the other end of the rubber band.

(19:26):
You keep pulling on your end. God keeps pulling on
his end, and all of a sudden, God says, you
know what, it seems she wants to handle this herself.
That God drops his end, and now you're left with
the whole problem yourself. However, if you let God handle

(19:48):
what he's supposed to handle and stop pulling away from him,
your whole everything is going to be solved for you.
Of course, the main thing that I would definitely recommend
is before you turn yourself your problems over to God,
do whatever you can yourself.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
To solve it, right, because you can't expect God to
just you know, just like, oh, well I owe twenty
thousand dollars on my credit card, God take care of
that for me.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, you're coming close to this. I owed seven hundred dollars.
I had no income. This was at the beginning of
my career, and I had just heard this buck, this woman,
and I had tried everything that I could to earn
money and couldn't And I said, okay, God, I'm turning
this over to you. I need seven hundred dollars here

(20:40):
all my bills. I have tried everything that I can,
and I'm running out of options. And this is the
day I needed far The day before those bills would do,
I got a check from an insurance company for an
accident that I have had years and years and years
prior to that day, never stood I would never get

(21:03):
a penny. I got seven hundred and twenty seven hundred
dollars and twenty five cents.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
By twenty five cents left over.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Hey, there was a tip.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Uh huh, And the tip was that I should do
what I can and anything I can't do, I have
to have faith, and that faith has to be unshakable,
because every time I thought about the seven hundred dollars
that I owed, I said, Okay, God's handle it, get
rid of it, and I would drop it, make myself

(21:44):
stop thinking about.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
It, and kindly when you say God, because I know
a lot of times when people use the term God,
they automatically go to religion. Oh no, or some sort
of dogma or something along those lines. I just want
to make that very clear that Yogananda and you, when
you say God, you're talking about just the spiritual aspect
of God, right.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
It creative force of the universe.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Right right, No dog no religious implications.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
No. As a matter of fact, I really don't have
much use for revision. I think it's man made. I
think that people are divided into cults because of it.
I don't want that. I want something that is very
solid inside of me, where I can have the faith
that God, this God which is now the center of

(22:32):
my universe, is going to help me and I will
have the faith because doubts and fear cannot coexist with faith.
It simply cannot. They say that two objects cannot occupy
the same space. That's statistics. Well this is different. You
can't have faith coexisting with fear and doubt. So choose

(22:55):
whichever one want to do. It's stick with it.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
And that was the one thing I loved about Yogananda
and his amazing book Autobiography of a Yogi and all
of his work where he was telling people to look
within themselves, to connect with God, with the higher Power,
with the universe, whatever you'd like to call it, but
to look inside as opposed to look outside. And he
was doing this in the thirties, which was you know,

(23:20):
heresy essentially.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Well I was doing is not much later than that,
except that I didn't know what the hell I was doing.
I was sixty years old and I was at the
beach with my mom. As I said, I'm an introvert,
and I was really shy, very withdrawn, and didn't have
any friends. We went to the beach, was sitting on

(23:44):
the blanket and when mom's friends came over and she
had her daughter with her, and her daughter's name was
Marvine got All these years later and I was thinking
about Marlene. She had this bubbly personality. Well, there's nothing
about me that bubbles good do it? And I didn't
know about bubbly personality. I wanted to have what she had,

(24:08):
but I didn't want to be her. I write being me,
I write being different. I just didn't want to be
the way I was. I wanted to have friends, and
I wanted something. So I'm sitting on the blanket and
I'm looking at Marlene and she's bubbling over and she's
talking about and I'm sitting there quiet with drawing, not

(24:31):
saying a single word, and I'm studying her. Well. All
of a sudden, I looked down at her feet and
right an inch below her ankle bone, there is a
light round birthmark. And I'm thinking to myself, if I
had that light brown birthmark in the same place on

(24:52):
my ankle, right below my ankle, I would be like Marlene.
People would like me and focused, focused, and I focused.
I focused, and I really really focused. You didn't hear
a peep from me because I was so busy concentrating
on that thing. Well, nothing happened. I was still withdraw on,
I was still introverted. I didn't have any friends. And

(25:15):
a few days later I looked down at my ankle.
There's the same birthmark that lowline had. I thought, wow,
And that's when I first started learning about visualization without
knowing what it was. Never heard the words. I came
from a very conservative background. You didn't hear these things,

(25:36):
especially in those days, and I carried that birthmark on
my ankle bone for the next forty years before it
went away. But he was not ripped. He That was
my first experience with that.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Now, you said that you looked around and you started
to make your life simpler, almost becoming more minimistic in
your life in all shapes, not only in the material world,
but also in relationships and other things like that. But
with material things. I think that humanity in general and
people get so caught up with this concept of I

(26:16):
need more stuff, I need the latest gadgets, I need this,
I need that thing. And I heard a great quote
the other day, a great comment I think it was
from one of my guests that said, you never see
a U haul in the back of a hearse, And
I just thought that that was such a wonderful comment

(26:37):
because it's so true. You know, we fight and we
kill and we hurt people and each other for things,
for stuff, but at the end of the day, you
can't really do much with it. What are your thoughts
on trying to make your life a little bit more minimalistic,
try to pull some of that away from you, to

(26:57):
kind of free you a bit more, because I think
the more stuff you have, the more of a prisoner
you are to the stuff, and that it ends up
owning you and not the other way around.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
The only thing, the only thing I have of value
my books.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Right because they actually mean something to you.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
I had twenty five hundred books when I moved into
this house. I have to tell you that it felt
like I was giving away some of my children, and
I had to give away a thousand, both Snakeroom the
other fifteen hundred. I'm not a materialistic person. I couldn't
care less about gadget In fact, I don't even own

(27:36):
gadgets that I know how to use. A friend of
mine st you have the most nophisticated gadgets in the world,
and you murdered them. You don't know how to use them,
you're not learning why do you have them? And I
couldn't answer. I have a computer. I still haven't learned

(27:56):
how to turn it on and off. So when you
asked me about a minimalizing what I had, I didn't
have this kind of things that you were talking about.
I never cared about them. What I did have were
some friends which turned out to be not friends, and
I got rid of them. I got rid of things

(28:17):
like but I can still show you some of my
things from kindergarten, and I have I really have not
been a collector of things. I hate shopping with the passion.
I was just a single running naked through the jungle.
As to go into a store and buary clothing. It

(28:39):
wasn't interest me. So these kinds of things that I
simplified for conversations. I learned how to say no, which
was very difficult for me. I learned the things that
were important to my life, and I concentrated on that.
And that was at a very young age. I remember
one of the things prior to that, when I was

(29:00):
in elementary school, and again I wanted to have something
that other kids have. Well, the popular girls all had
dimples in their cheeks. I did not have dimples.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Something something tells me I knew. I knew that already.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
No, wait a moment, I didn't say I don't have
Now I said I didn't have them. Then I sat
in class with my fingers my thumb nail on each
side of my face where a dimple should appear, and

(29:41):
I pressed in and I concentrated simple dimples. Well, I
don't have dimples, but I do have creases that remained.
After all these centuries have passed. A friend of mine called,

(30:02):
probably about thirty years later, and I hadn't spoken to
her in about five years. He said, Oh, Connie, I
miss you so much, and I miss seeing your dimples.
That thing to myself, I've had dimples. I have prices
to see if I had temples.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Now, there's one thing you said earlier about karma and
Yogananda spoken about karma. And karma is not a new
concept by any stretch of imagination, and it's been spoken
about by many religions and many thought leaders throughout history.
Can you explain to the audience a little bit about
what karma is and how we can change that. Karma?

(30:49):
According to Yogananda.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Or or not, Kara is like this law of gravity,
what goes up must come dance. What you do in
one life lifetime, you've read in another lifetime you've been
wonderful in a past life. Well the next lifetime to
go and have wonderful things happen.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
You've been a miserable individual in a past life. In
this life, you're going to be the object of misery.
Everyone has to experience a present at being the oppressor,
rich or poor. They have to experience all aspects of living.
There are seven planes of consciousness. Each plane is divided

(31:43):
by seven subplanes. You have to pass through these planes
of consciousness to get to God's consciousness, which means that
you've got a lot of living to do. They say
that Jesus had thirty three lifetimes, and tonsidering that he
came in at the level he came in, he'd say,

(32:04):
he that's the life. Why does he have to go
to so many It was to prove himself, not only
to himself, but the world in general. This is what
it takes to become an ascended master.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
And ascended masters are people who have transcended this world,
this plan of existence, if you will, like Jesus or
Buddha Mohammad, these kind of figures throughout history.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yes, exactly, they figured it out.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
In other words, they cracked the nut, if you will,
of getting out of this endless it seems to be
almost endless circle of karma of getting in and out
being stuck in this body. I mean again, I'm definitely
not the first to say this, but from my understanding
and from my readings of great spiritual texts, the concept

(32:56):
of the soul and the body, as if as the
soul is traveling, is having a physical experience as opposed
to a physical being having a spiritual experience, it's the opposite.
We're here, we're souls driving around in our bodies experiencing life.
And then when this body is done, and this time

(33:17):
to get off the train. You get off the train
and you move on, and then you might and then
you hopefully or might come back into another body to
experience something else, something different from another perspective, like you
were just saying, until you learn to the point where
you don't have to come back anymore and you can
transcend this level of existence.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
You have to pass through all seven planes. When Jesus
came this last time ran he had just passed through
the sixth plane of consciousness, which is renunciation. That was
the plane where he had to give up his body,
which he did. He had to give up all earthly possessions,

(33:58):
which he did, give up everything, and that was his renunciation.
Then he was ready to go to the seventh plane
of consciousness, which is a plane of God consciousness.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
And where was all of this with the seventh the
consciousness and karma? Is this all? Where did this all
come from? As far as the knowledge the text is,
who's the one who brought this into what texts? Can
people go out and study more about these concepts?

Speaker 2 (34:30):
I can tell you that Yogananda had a tremendous influence
on my life, much more so than any of the others.
Familiar with all of the others, I bought all the
different religions to study those or the philosophies I have.
I'm teens in books, but nothing prepared me for Yogananda.

(34:53):
He summed up things for me in such a way.
I mean, I did not know that I could change
my karma. Do you know, Alice, that after I changed
my karma, I watched my negative karma lift up for
my body and move away.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
And how do you change.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Your karma living a spiritual life?

Speaker 1 (35:14):
And what does that mean? Exactly?

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Well, for me, it meant I can forgive myself first
of all, and I can learn to love myself. From there,
I can radiate that forgiveness and that love everyone else.
Not to hold grudges, not to hold bad thoughts about people. Yes,
this one has these kinds of preslegures but that's his path,

(35:40):
it's not yours. Let him go those Some of the
things that I learned was that my destiny is to
help mankind, and that's what I was looking That's what
I was looking for.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
I can only tell, and I've said this I think
on this show as well as my other shows, is
that I found that in my own life. I've been
chasing the dream of being a big time film director
for decades almost, and I kept trying to break through
and trying to hack it and trying to figure things out.
It never really worked out the way I wanted it to.

(36:17):
But the moment I started to be of service to
people in a big way is when opportunities started to
present themselves. And I saw glimpses of that in five
when I released my first short film and provided a
tremendous amount of service with what I did with the
products and DVDs that I created from it, I got

(36:39):
opportunities and I met people that I just wouldn't have otherwise.
But then I put that down and didn't go back
to it for ten years. But the moment I opened
up Indie Film Hustle in my other companies and started
providing service to other people. My life changed in ways
that I can't comprehend and can continue to change on

(37:01):
a daily basis, in a profound way. And the more
I gave, the more it came back to me. And
the more I enjoyed giving of myself, the more I received,
and it is completely transformed my life. It's one of
the reasons why I wanted to start this show is
because I wanted to give back to a larger community

(37:22):
that not just the film industry and the entertainment industry.
I wanted to give back to a much larger basically
the rest of the world, because the show can touch
anybody in any field. But that was the thing that
I found in my life which was so profound, and
it really has changed my life completely in a way

(37:42):
that I can't even really comprehend yet and I might
one day, But all I know is I enjoy giving,
And I think we're all kind of hardwired to enjoy
giving because when you give a gift, you get an
endorphin rush on a physical standpoint. You know, when you
give or you help somebody, it makes you feel good.

(38:06):
And I think a lot of people forget that a.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Lot of people have never experienced that that's true when
you talk about giving. You and I were both born
as givers. If you were not, you would not have
a mission like you have in this lifetime. If I
were not, I would not have mission that I have
in this lifetime. There are many many people who can

(38:32):
only feel joy in chasing something that they can't have,
and they only have enjoyments accumulating things that they have
no regard for or once they get it, their interests
to exist. Whether it's a relationship, whether it's an electronic device,

(38:52):
makes no matter. They just want to pursue it the
sake of pursuing it. They can look at some of
these companies that are run by the titans of industry.
How many of them are really happy. Take a look
at their faces, Take a look at their eyes. How
many of them smile with their eyes? They don't. They

(39:14):
smile with their mouths. They say the appropriate things that
they don't really convey that sense of happiness. They don't
convey that feeling. Let me share this with you. I'm
not out for your money. I want you to enjoy
something that I enjoy. It will help you to enjoy life.

(39:35):
Something that says I want to help humanity now I
learned at a very very young age that I was
supposed to help humanity. I learned that at the age
of seven. That was when I got my first vision,
and it's been a revelation ever since, because I would
much rather give than to receive. In fact, people have

(39:58):
said to me, what to get you for your birthday?
Is so difficult to shop for nothing interests you, And
it's true, I really don't have a whole lot of
interest in material things. I could wear the same outfit
every day for the next twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Agreed, Well, I know I'm maybe.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Doing just that, but you know it's true. Some people
need to have their lives surrounded by things. That's their
measure of success. My measure of success is very different.
My measure of success is have I made a difference

(40:42):
in anyone's life, even one person would satisfy Then make
a difference in somebody's life and make it better for somebody.
That gives me tremendous amounts of joy. As far as
buying things for myself, I really don't. I think for
other people, yes, particularly things that I think that they

(41:03):
will enjoy, Like someone is that I know wants to
become a full time writer.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
But she didn't own a book called Writer's Market. So
for her birthday after shortly after I found out that
she didn't have that book, I bought it for her.
Gave me tremendous pleasure, being that she was going to
use that book to try to start selling the worsts

(41:42):
that she was writing. Whether or not she'll get a
buyer for it, I don't know, but at least I
gave her a tool to begin the search. And that
gave me a lot of joy.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Now, one thing that has become very popular in these
last probably the last twenty years or so, is meditation.
And so many people now I mean before when you meditated,
when you said you meditated, people looked at you weird.
And now so many people around the world and in

(42:14):
the West are meditating and they understand the benefits of
it on a physical level, butf you, I feel, understand
the spiritual level of it and how it connects you
deeper with that creative force, the God force, if you will.
How important is meditation in your life and what has
it done for you? Because you've been meditating probably longer
you were meditating before it was probably.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Cool I was. I started out with seven or eight
hours of meditation a day.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
It's a serious amount of meditation.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Well, I had read a book in my books could
be my danceflaw as well as everything else. I read
a book that talked about meditation opening up your chapters
and your charkers. Of course, are those units of energy
that open up best universes for you.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Right. It's been discussed in many, many religious texts and
spiritual texts throughout time.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Yeah, exactly. So I read whatever I could about the Chokras,
and I read everything that I could about meditation, and
what I found was very disturbing. I don't know if
anyone else has coined this expression, but I ended up
coining this expression called phony holies. I started out by

(43:33):
reading books and books was saying things, but I wasn't
seeing those same people often as I say, was spiritual.
The words that came out of their mouths or out
of their writings sounded spiritual, but they're born't doing anything spiritual.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
So, Conna, you mean to tell me that there's people
out there who will pretend to be holy and spiritual
just to sell products and books and to become famous.
I can't believe it. I can't believe it.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Connie, Yep, I even own some of them.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
I'm sure you do. I'm sure we all do. If
you're into this world. I'm sure there's a lot of
people out there who'd love to talk to talk, but
generally don't walk the walk.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
They really did. And I call them phony holies because
what happened was when I started reading the books and
I started realizing that these were just words that had
no bearing on reality, no bearing on what I was
actually seeing in operation. And I was beside myself because

(44:42):
when you go other than books, I don't forget. There
were no audio books in those days. There were no
computers in those days. But I did have the written
for it. And the thing that bothered me the most
was that I said to myself, well, maybe you're not
spiritual enough. Maybe you should be really doing with those

(45:04):
books are saying because you're not spiritual enough, or you
would be doing it. And what I found out was
they weren't doing it either. It was just talking about
When I came across Yogananda, it had very very different
flavor to it. It was like, oh, yes, this is
somebody I could follow easily. This is someone who touches

(45:28):
something inside of me that says, follow me. And it
was the first one that I ever felt that way about.
And I know that there have been a lot of
descended masters, and I know that I have one, but
the one that really really touched my soul in a
way that nothing else has ever touched my soul has

(45:48):
been Yoga Nanda.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Well. I mean, considering that his book Autobiography of a
Yogi has sold tens of millions of copies around the world,
and I was considered one of the premiers spiritual text
of the last hundred years. I understand why, because the
cream does rise to the top. People connect with authenticity.

(46:11):
You know, you can fool people to a certain extent,
but for true connection, you can't fake that.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Well, I kept feeling like I couldn't be spiritual if
I wasn't doing what those books were saying. But when
Yoga Nitis was talking about the things, I connected immediately.
And I can't tell you how many books are sold
to people I met or I said, you have got
to buy this book, you have got to read it,

(46:38):
and you have got to read it in a way
that you don't read a novel, read a few and
you think about it and you try to integrate it
into your life, and then you read a few more pages,
but you don't read it as a novel. And that
has been a turning point for a lot of people
because they started out with, oh, this is a great novel.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
You know, it's a fantastic story. Yeah, it's a great autobiography.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
And just the fact that a really like a novel
doesn't make it a novel. It makes it something that's
interesting enough that engages you at a level that you
have never been engaged in your life.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Well, I mean he was a very big influence on
the Beatles. I think he's on the cover of Sergeant Pepper.
I think he's one of the people who's on the
cover of the album cover. And I mean that book
has connected to so many people. And I think, isn't
he the first spiritual master if you will, that wrote
about being a yogi and that path? I don't think

(47:48):
there was another book prior to him, correct.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
You know, I really don't know the answer.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
To that, but his has become obviously the most popular
of that genre, if you will, of yogi's and getting
closer to in that way in his path that he's taken.
I haven't been able to find the book.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Both like Christian Marty mm they say pretty much the
same things, but Yogananda has a different way of saying it.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Yeah, that's the thing too, And I've noticed that about
even with the work that I do is a lot
of the things that I say on my other shows
are you know, things that people know about and other
people say it. But people like my flavor and some
people might like other people's flavor. So I always tell
people try as many flavors you want, and whichever one
you connect with, then go down that road, because it

(48:37):
might not be me, it might be somebody else. And
I say that again with everybody listening now, like, if
this is a show that connects with you, then great,
keep listening. If it isn't, then find the show or
find something that will connect you in the way that
is meaningful to you.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Well, one of my clients made a comments someone else
within my hearing, and he didn't know what I was listening,
and he said, Tommy can bring things into existence that
don't exist, and she can stop them from happening just
by the force of her will. And I thought to myself, wow,
that's interesting that. Yeah. Well, my sister in law had

(49:18):
sent me a plant for my birthday. It was one
of these gorgeous delft pottery containers, and the arrangement was
just absolutely stunning. I called my friend and I said,
would you do me a favor. I'm going to make
an experiment. My sister in law just sent me most

(49:40):
gorgeous floral arrangements I have yet to see. Would you
consent to by calling you every single day and telling
you which flowers are still alive? And she said sure.
So every day I would sit down in front of
the flower, put my hands around them, not touching them exactly,

(50:04):
but around them. My eyes closed, and I would focus
on keeping these cut flowers alive. And every day I
would call and say, well, there's still alive. But some
of the flowers had fallen off, some of them turned round, died,
but basically this this still alive. And then one day,

(50:26):
a couple of weeks later, my hands flipped and all
of a sudden I looked down and I see that
the bottom row of flowers that was so gorgeous and
so vibrants were artificial. No wonder they was so alive.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Looking fantastic Jesus.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
But I had done that with Honestly, I had put
them into existence, and I have stopping from existing.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Well, let me ask you a question. How can people
break through the limitations that they or society puts on them,
because I feel that it is a challenge that most
human beings have to go through. We'll be right back
after a word from our sponsor, and now back to
the show.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Okay, I was very fortunate in one respect. My parents
told me not to care about public opinion and to
question everything, and that has been the story of my life.
When you talk about other people influencing your life and
stopping you from progressing, it's how you were brought up.

(51:45):
A lot of people pleases in this world. They have
the most difficult times of all because they're constantly trying
to please everyone and you can't. The only one you
can is yourself. And if you are really pleasing yourself,
then you're pleasing God as well. If you're not happy
with yourself, then you're separating yourself from God.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Is this why people struggle so much in life?

Speaker 2 (52:10):
They struggle because they don't have a concept of what
they're going towards. You know, Like I told you, I
woke up one day and I said, why am I here?
What am I supposed to be doing? I really feel
like I'm taking a time and space on this planet
and I'm not accomplishing anything. I mean, I'm doing things.

(52:32):
I'm accomplishing things on a material basis, but I don't
feel it inside of me. I don't feel fulfilled. It
wasn't until much much later that people started coming to
me to solve their problems, and I got such a
feeling of well being from helping them solve the problems

(52:54):
that all of a sudden it dawned on me. You're
here to fix things. You're here to show people out
to fix their lives, out the observers to mankind, to
dig into themselves so that they can feel what feels
good and then they can emulate that they can replicate it. Now,

(53:15):
if I show somebody out to fish and he can
then go out and fish every day for his dinner,
I have given him something of value. If I've just
given him a fish dinner, he's only eaten for one
night and he doesn't have that feeling of well being
in him. But if he learns has to fish and

(53:37):
he can fish for himself and his family. Then he
has this feeling of accomplishments. Well, you can't beat that
feeling of accomplishment. It's there within you, saying Okay, now
you've got something tangible that you can do. What else
would you like to do? What else would give you pleasure?
I symptomes make people, well, not just sometimes, many times

(54:02):
I have them make a list two hundred things that
gives them pleasure that they enjoy, and they're look at
me as if I'm crazy, And I said, every day,
you start a new list every day. I don't care
if you repeat things from the previous day, makes no difference.
So what's that list? Are the things that give you pleasure?

(54:24):
Then after about three months of this, I say, okay,
now take four things a day that give you pleasure
and do them. The one person had things that gives
him pleasure was having a hot shower, so that became
one of the things that he had to do. So

(54:45):
that week he had to give himself a hot shower
one day a week. But people have a very difficult
time saying what really gives them pleasure. They can tell
you more about what they don't like then what they
do like when I do your counseling, I will say

(55:05):
to them, Okay, what do you feel passionate about? And
I'll say, I don't know. You mean, you don't know.
You now here's five years old. You don't know what
you feel passionate about anything.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
I find that incredible. You know, if anyone would to
ask me that, I wouldn't hesitate for a single second.
I know it gives me pleasure. But it's like going
into a restaurant, looking at the menu and saying, well,
I don't want this, I don't want that, I don't
like this, I don't like right. But what do you like?

(55:44):
What would you like to have for dinner?

Speaker 3 (55:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
And it's the same thing. If you have no idea
what you would like, everything else becomes things that you
don't like. That's the core of why you don't feel
fulfilled in this lifetime.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Now, where do you see us going? Where do you
see humanity going in the next twenty years, fifty years?

Speaker 2 (56:10):
You're not going to like this?

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Well, as I asked the question, I was afraid to
ask it, but just out of curiosity, just your opinion
of what you think, you feel that the humanity is
going to be going through in the next fifty years.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Very difficult times. We have got to hit back bottom
where people start to see the value of their lives,
where people start to see that their lives are not
just for themselves, that they interact with other wives, that
we are interdependent on other people. Like John Dunn said,

(56:51):
no man is an.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Island, very much true, and it's true, I mean the
first time ever and so I because remember growing up
we are now global.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Thing that we do depends upon our global communication with
other countries, our food, our beverages, our xt books, our art,
everything doesn't make any difference what it is. We are interconnected,
we are interdependent on other people, on other countries. We

(57:31):
keep losing sight of that, and we keep having wars
that make absolutely no sense. What are we trying to
do destroy each other? We're only destroying ourselves right now.
To answer the questions more specifically, until we get to
that point where we understand what it is that we've

(57:54):
been doing wrong, we cannot get to the understanding of
what we can do that is right. So we have
to start looking at Okay, we've been declaring war on
all these countries. Now there are our friends, and we
give them top secrets, and five years from now they're
going to use these top secrets against us. But this

(58:17):
is absolutely ridiculous. We need to make partners of these people,
not adversaries. We need to show them that we understand
that we have different cultures and that we can sustain
our individuality and still love them and still want to
be partners with them, and still have something in common

(58:41):
even though we have different countries and different habits and
different cultures and everything else. And until we can get
to that level, then you're going to see the destruction
of mankind in a very big way. And that part
is not far from happening.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
So I'm going to ask you a large question, not
that the questions I've been asking you haven't been large,
but why do you think we are here? Or, at
least from your point of view, why do you think
that we as souls, as people, as a species are here.
What's the purpose of all of this.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
To become perfected? This is our university. It's where we
learned the lessons. It's where we practice on each other,
on ourselves. How can you learn kindness if you don't
have the experience of doing a kindness to someone or

(59:42):
having someone else do a kindness for you. How do
you learn these things if you don't have a practice.
So Earth is a practice. It's a university. Unfortunately to
any people don't take notes on it, they would learn
a lot. What I'm hoping for is a reawakening, and

(01:00:02):
I have this feeling that you're going to play a
very pivotal role in the reawakening.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Well, I appreciate that confidence, Connie.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Oh, don't appreciate it too quickly.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
You may.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
You may say, oh my damn, Connie.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Oh, I've said that a couple of times over the years. Now, Connie,
I can keep talking to you for hours, But I
wanted to ask you where can people find out more
about you and your book? The many books as you
have written.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Oh, I have twelve that are on Amazon, and a
couple of CDs of the Book of Whispers of the
Soul book. That was my first book that I wrote.
And there was a reason that I wrote that book.
My brother was saying of cancer. I wanted to give

(01:00:58):
him something that he see that he was going to
be written up in the dedication, and so I said,
I wrote it to base.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Three months and he died shortly thereafter.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Now is there a website that everyone can go to
to find out more about you?

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
KANIEH Deutch dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
And I will put that link in the show notes. Connie,
thank you so much for being on the show. It's
been an absolute pleasure and honor talking to you, and
hopefully some of the stuff we've talked about today can
help some souls out there get to the next level.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
I think that you will do a great job doing that.
I think you have what it takes to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
I appreciate you and thank you for all the service
that you've provided people over the years. Thank you, my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Thank you, sweetheart. You take care.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
I hope this conversation with Connie has enlightened you in
a way that helps you on your life's journey and
helps you figure out why you are here and what
is your life's mission, and how you could be more
of service to others in this world, and how being
of service to others is what will help you get

(01:02:28):
to where you might want to be in life. As
someone said once, if you want to have your dreams
come true, help somebody else with theirs. If you want
to do a deeper dive into Connie and her work,
head over to the show notes at Next levelsoul dot
com Forward slash zero zero eight. Now. If this conversation

(01:02:50):
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(01:03:15):
Thank you so much for listening. As I always say,
trust the journey. It's there to teach you. I'll see
you next time.