FLASHBACK FRIDAYS: STUNNING PROOF Found: ANNUNAKI Origins, Extinct BIBLICAL GIANTS, & The Nephilim! with Freddy Silva

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they represent. Now today on the show, we have Freddie Silva,
who is a ancient civilization researcher, and we sit down
and talk about pre flood civilizations, the mysterious origins of
the Sumerian Anunaki myths, as well as Onnaki myths around
the world, and most interestingly, the origins of giants around

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the world. He has discovered some amazing things that I
think you guys are.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Going to be blown away by.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
So let's dive it. I like to welcome to the
show Freddie Silva. Ho are you doing, Freddy?

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Pretty well? Pretty well, my friend.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Thank you so much for coming on the show.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
I'm a big fan of the work you've been doing
for many, many years now about ancient civilizations and sacred
sites and monoliths. And I mean you're talking dirty to me, man,
I mean, this is the kind of stuff that I
love talking about, and also just not only talking about
that the ancient civilization lost history aspect of it, but

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then how is it mixed with spirituality and our evolution
spiritually throughout it, throughout humanity, because those two are very connected,
especially the older and the farther you go back. I've
sensed that there is a lot more spirits, spirituality and
connecting to things that we well, within recent years used

(03:02):
to look at as like oh, that's woo woo or
that's that, but things like meditation, things that have been
now proven by science that are just like no, no,
there's there's something here. So but I appreciate you coming
on the show, my friend, thank you.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh my pleasure. It was good to talk about things
that it's good to talk dirty. I actually mentioned that
at restaurants when the waitress comes over and says, are
you literted in dessert? Said dirty me. Sometimes it works,
and sometimes they're called the police. They'll become a pervert
or something that's very strange, depending on where you are

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on the planet. Some people have no sense of humor
exact and if you're lucky, you get double dessert for free.
It's wonderful.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Exactly depending on the restaurant and the waitress, or absolute
as it says as its it goes. So my first
question to you is you wrote a book about the
pre flood civilizations, which is one of my favorite topics
because I mean, we've all heard of it Atlantis, We've
heard of Lemeria. These are those are the three big

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ones that I know of. But you go at it
in a very different way. How do the indigenous account
inform our understanding of the pre flood civilizations?

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Well, I mean that's what interested me as well, because
so much of our history comes from an academic background
that you know, thinks that it's version of history is
the only version of history. I like to hear the
story from people whose ancestors are actually there, and we
hardly ever get to ask them the question. So the
project really was to go around and why travels and

(04:37):
find out and gather from people, you know, the impressions
from their ancestors and their stories. And in a place
like South America, when you're up at Lady Dikaka, you're
at thirteen thousand feet, you're doing the coca leaf and
trying to keep some oxygen in your blood. Seed on
pass out and it's it's all legal, by the way,

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and I'm talking to the eye. There's only about nine
thousand Iyamara left. It's a disappearing culture. Turns out they're
one of the oldest people on the planet. They have
the language which basically appears to have been designed by
a computer. It didn't develop organically like you know, you
and I over a million years ago from you know
ug to I'll have a cheeseburger with friars which can

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ketch up on the side. Yeah, you develop it in
terms of need, but Imara just develops immediately and it
becomes It has the same syntax that a computer can understand.
So when they start talking to me about this kind
of stuff, I want to hear what was going on
in their history. And they said, well, thanks for asking us,
because no one ever does. And they started talking about

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these places where that came from. Originally during a global flood,
when mountains of fire fell from the sky and they
hit the earth exactly where you don't want them to hit,
which is the ocean, and created these enormous tidal waves.
And they're talking about how they moved to later d
Kako along with the group of gods called the Haihaiwapanti

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And I said, well, does that mean anything in Ayamara
and they said, yeah, it means shining people. I said, well,
do you realize that that's what the Egyptians call the
flood gods in Egypt? And they said, well, well, it
doesn't surprise us because the Egyptians were here a long
time ago. So now you're in a completely different conversation.
We don't hear about Egyptians in South America very often.

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And they're saying, yeah, we came from a land called Lapogije.
Some people call it Muul, and some people call it Limuria.
There's no such thing as Limuria, it's mu Ul. I said, great,
that's good. Well do you realize that that's what the
Maya called this big land in the middle of the
Pacific as well? And they said, who the hell of
the Maya? So yeah, when you start hearing these stories

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and they start to have a correspondence in other parts
of the world, you listen, and you know, if you
you'd say the same story to the Hope, they'd say, oh, yeah,
we called it Kashkata. So after a while, I'm gathering
all of these pieces of the puzzle and realizing that
it wasn't just one big land mass in the Pacific.

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In fact, it could have been there a long long
time ago. I'm talking about millions of years ago, but
in terms of the last fifteen thousand years, there may
have been many pieces where all these people came from.
And that starts to look a bit more realistic. As
a sea level rise, as the earth changes and plate
tectonics also comes into play, things start breaking up. So

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we're getting to the point now where we're going to
understand that there's many land masses in the Pacific. That's
where the gods lived, that's where hunter gatherers lived, and
it wasn't a sense of people being better or worse
than anybody else. There wasn't a racial superiority. Everybody got
along just fine. There's a sense of mutual respect between races.

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So that's what fascinated me about the research, was to
go elm the hunt for the place where the gods
originally came from. And it turns out in the language
of the Aymara that more all literally means the tree
of knowledge. That's not actually a name of a place,
it's an understanding of where knowledge originally came from. And

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the Japanese also had the same story as well, that
there's this place in the middle of the Pacific at
one point from where all our history came from, from
where the builders came from. And they said it's we
called it moul and again it means the tree of knowledge.
So we started talking about the Muria as a land.
Actually is more a sort of a concept. There's a

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spiritual ideal or a place where the knowledge came from
from a very unusual group of people who were kind
of like us, or to quote, people in the Pacific,
human like but not quite human. So it seems that
we were very comfortable with these godlike people, but they
were just like us, just a bit taller. And here's
the weirdest part. A lot of them were sort of

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blonde and redheaded with green and blue eyes, which sounds
very Caucasian, except back then Caucasians really were a minority,
and they lived around where today you find the Armenian people.
That's kind of where they came from. Because Europe was
pretty much under ice and the area that we're talking about,
not many people lived there. So that's what was interesting

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to find out that the world was a much more
different place and I think that we've been so hung
up on Atlantis and the Muria or mul for such
a long time that I figured that it was a
chance to see it from a different point of view.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
So when you're talking about these almost human beings, this
sounds very Anunaki esque in the sense of that every
I mean, and I'm going to say every culture, but
every major or even minor culture has these stories of
these kind of godlike beings who came and showed them technology,

(09:53):
brought civilization to them, brought them knowledge, kind of set
things up for them. And for my understan standing the Onunaki,
I think it's Sumerian, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Armenia. But is that the originally came from Armenia and
they went down towards the Mesopotamian planes and created the
Sumerian culture.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Right, So it's it's pretty old, and it's in their text.
It's not like it's not I always find fascinating. People
are like, oh, it's just myth, it's just stories, and
I'm like, you know how hard it was to write
back then. I can't I mean, I can't believe there's
just a guy. I'm like, you know what, I got
this tale. I gotta tell it, man, And let me
just start chiseling, like, that's not the way things ran
impact that I had.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
So here's a bunch of hunter gatherers who are literally
in the incredible stories. The two are incompatible. The two
the logic is incompatible. Either you are smoking something weird
and you already knew about very picturesque language and you
can really use verbs, adjectives and pronouns really well, or
you were elliterate. You can't have both.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
We'll be right back after a word from our spot
answer and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
And say, it's a very good point. And here's the
thing about myth, and this is what historians just don't
get about it. Myth is a theatrical device in which
to convey a piece of storytelling so that the story
is remembered. It's a bit like two thousand years from now,
we'll be talking about the myth of Star Wars, okay

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exactly because and that's what Lucas was was channeling in
terms of keeping this idea of live, of this wonderful story.
Because if I just told you the story of you know,
this young kid who goes gets in the spaceship and
goes rescuing a princess on the other side of the galaxy.
You go, oh, that's really cool, and then you forget
about it because there's so many other films like it.
But while he's talking about the story of the redemption

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of Darpa Vader and the fact that he goes from
the light to the dark and it's a personal introspective journey,
you go, oh, you got my attention now, and talking
about it forever. And this is what they don't understand
that myth was a wonderful vehicle for maintaining these stories
into perpetuity, and that's why we still talking about him today.
The hot part is that the language is sometimes a

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little bit so obcuse and so different from where we
are today that you have to be patient with a story.
You have to look at the allegory and the metaphor,
and once you understand that, then you can start, you know,
understanding what these stories are all about.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
So in ten thousand years, there'll be a myth of
an alien who fell from the sky and because of
the yellow sun, became super and started running around the
planet as a superhero. He had a cape on and
he used to save people. And there's some archival footage
that we found in a cave somewhere on this thing
called well, we don't know what it's called, but it's

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like film. It's film, and we shine light through it
and we could see images of it because it was
saved in a salt mine that had been forgotten for
ten thousand years.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Now, that'd be really cool. You just the whole history,
are you?

Speaker 1 (13:03):
I mean, I mean, well, I mean I'm going right now,
you know. But people could argue that it's like, oh yeah,
well these stories. But for us, it was a lot
easier to write a story than it was back then.
And you're right. Back then, those those myths, those stories were,
as George Lucas said, the meat and potatoes of the culture.

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And then they kept and it kept moving forward. So
going back to the pre flood era, because there's so
many I mean, we've been told that humanity has been
around for six thousand, maybe eight thousand years. If you're
really getting froggy, and we shall hunter gatherers. This is
what this is. This is the technical way of saying it, Freddy.

(13:45):
We were hunter gatherers, YadA, YadA, YadA. Egypt came YadA, YadA, YadA.
The Greeks came, YadA, YadA, YadA, We're here, uh, And
that's that's basically kind of what we like. And we
kind of got on. The technology grew and that was it.
But the the the archaeological evidence is now shining so
much light that that is an incorrect timeline, and mainstream

(14:07):
academia just has it's having. Just like every mainstream academia,
every facet of humanity will have problems with their own dogma,
with their own story that they've been from physics to
math to everything for all the time. So now this
concept of the younger dryest that caused the great flood

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that Atlantis was around around that time. Now there's something
called go Beckley Tepe who which has been around. So
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the timeline that
was created or told to us at school. Also, the
pyramids were built by slaves carrying rocks up a sand hill.
I remember seeing the I see that saw the images

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in my textbook of these poor slaves pushing up you know,
thirty forty fifty ton. Yeah, let's get get rid of
the Oh my god, it was amazing. So I'd love
to hear your thought of the timeline that we've been
given and based on your research, what is a more
accurate timeline based on the stories that you've heard from

(15:12):
the indigenous and your research in general.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
That's a long question. Let's see. Well, it's funny because now,
and you're right, academia takes forever to reach the point
where they're comfortbling changing the story. You go back one
hundred years ago, they're still trashing each other. When they
come to an accepted conclusion that this is how the
world was. And then someone comes along and says, actually

(15:36):
there's new evidence to show that actually that's not the
way it was. They'll kill the guy, and then fifty
years later they'll say, actually he was right, but we're
going to take credit for it. And we're getting the
same problem today as independent researcher. So there's nothing new.
But the thing is the technology is now catching up
with the myth. So if you look at the Hope
traditions of the last three Ice Sages, which are actually

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pretty well recorded with the Hope myth, You look at
the building text which are written all across the walls
of the Temple of Edfu in Egypt, you look at
the Tamil culture and all the vaders, which basically go
back fifteen thousand years if you just pay attention to
the text and read the four thousand year cycles that
it took for each academy to write down that information.

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So once you start compiling these things, you begin to
realize that the ancestors, they survived three cataclysms, and we
know that there were three ice ages, so we got
the young driers, the younger dryers, and the older dryers.
So basically, when you start looking at the description of
how every single world fell, and we're pretty good. We're

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pretty sure now that the beginning of the younger dryers
was definitely caused by meteoric strikes. Because we found nanodiamonds
spread all around the world, which is the only way
to get nanodiamonds is to have a very high heat,
very high impact meteoric structure hit the earth. We found
the craters, We found the impact sites all across from

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North Carolina all the way to South Carolina. There's some
there's over a thousand craters, and you actually got the
direction from where the actual meteorites came from. There's still
there to this very day, on a sunny day, flying
over North Carolina, you can practically see what they call
the Carolina Bays. So we know these events happened. So

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once you start looking at the fact that these stories
were written by people whose ancestors survived these cataclysms, and
you look at the information that we're getting now from archaeology, history, climatology, oceanography,
and overlay them, now you begin to realize that, yes,
there were three periods through which the world changed very,

(17:47):
very differently to what it looks like now. And you
add to that the fact that also when the Egyptians
were telling Solon, who basically was a Greek historian who
happened to be over in vacer in Sais, and one
of the priests said, you know your Greeks are too young. Wait,
can you've been a round as long as we have,
And we've seen the sun changed position in the sky

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four times. We've seen it rise where it now sets,
and set where it now rises. And at one point
we experienced the Earth be upside down, and I don't
mean a pole shift. Something big hit the earth and
the Earth actually flipped over. So and of course he
takes that story back to Greece, and within two generations
some guy called Plato says, hey, that'll make a great
idea for a story. The thing is, the Egyptians gave

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him a specific date for nine thy six hundred BC
as the day of the end of the last ice
Age and the big cataclysm. You move over to the Yugatan,
which is full of Egyptian language, by the way, and
in fact, there's a several pictures at Ushmail and I
believe it's Oshkintok. There's an Egyptian priest who's visiting over

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from Egypt's got the headdress and everything, and they've got
their story in their particular history that says in nine
thy six hundred BC. And this at a very specific dates,
we get the arrival of these gods from its sinking
islands in the middle of the Atlantic called Atol. So
you get the atol ants popping up and these sort

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of people called the It's who are the magician priests.
They were very big on names back then. It's all
it was very concise language. But they're the ones who
basically gave us quite so Quatal Cuckocan and the Jitsumda.
Who's the one that gets left out. He's the most
interesting of all of them. But they're escaping what was
essentially a drowning continent. So the point of the matter is,

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you got the same date given by the Maya, and
on the other side of the world you got the
Egyptians giving you exactly the same date. So you can't
have made this up because basically the two countries weren't
technically supposed to be sharing information. So that yeah, I
do believe that the story is much much more transparent
now with the overlaying of you know, heard everdents as

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on top of mythical evidence, the two who begin to coincide.
How further back it goes, no one really knows, because
if you go to the Indian vaders, they start talking
about things which go on for four hundred thousand years.
Now you've got a problem here because there's absolutely nothing
left evidence to back that up, and you have to say,
perhaps it happened, because if we're talking four hundred thousand

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BC and we're talking cave people, they didn't have language
as far as we know, they would never have been
able to write such extraordinary things about the manocraft flying
through the sky to obliterate an entire city and come
back fatigued in the same day. It's just not feasible.
These people would not have had the imagination. And the

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only thing that makes sense is the people that were
around formed a parallel civilization, and just as the Ice
Age comes to an end eleven thousand years ago, their
civilization is now on the way and hunter gatherers are
under up.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
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Speaker 2 (21:09):
So this is what was happening from my research, is
that you know, this story of this missing civilization is
missing because it was already on its last legs. By
the time the story gets picked up by our ancestors,
they're already on the way out, and we're now the
next civilization of the way up, and they taught us
all the accouterments of civilization. So that's about as far

(21:31):
as I've got in terms of twenty five years of research,
just digging around in strange languages and strange people and
looking at what the archaeologists have to say about this
and linking the two, and it's beginning to make some sense.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
From my understanding. The it sounds very similar to what
the Yogi Yuktashwa said in The Holy Science, which is
about the Yuga cycles, which is this twenty I think
it's twenty four thousand year cycles or twenty twenty six.
It's twenty six if I'm not mistaken right. And you
start off basically enlightened, as as as humanity's consciousness is enlightened,

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then we start to go downward, downward, downward, till we
hit the lowest point, which he argued was the Dark Ages,
and then from there we start to come back up.
So we are currently in an upward swing. Hence the
technology growing as fast as I mean, isn't it amazing
when the last hundred years, how much we have more

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technology in the last hundred years than we did in
the last one hundred thousand years according to exactly the timeline.
That's pretty insane.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
I mean yeah. And Terrence McKenna picked up on that
back in the eighties about the sudden jump to a
new level of order happening almost by the month, and
he predicted that forty years ago, so he's not far off.
I mean, we are getting new evidence of new information
and new ideas coming up almost instantaneously. You can't keep
up with.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
This, No, you can't. And like with AI alone. What
AI is doing is it is just like every day,
every other day, something new is coming. I mean, it's
just moving so fast from when the Internet showed up
in a mass way to where we are now. I
mean that was the late nineties, so we're looking at

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twenty five thirty years maybe of like Syria, because I
remember when the Internet showed up and I started using
it with the AOL discs and you know, all that
stuff back in the day. So you get your free
way to get on the internet. That it's been thirty years,
that's nothing.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
And now you imachin an AI representation of the real
friendly Silver. By the way, he's actually gone shopping. It's
so real.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
I'm actually I'm actually in the Fresh River ERAa as
we speak right now. We laugh, but we laughed. That
will happen. That is happening. We're getting to that. We'll
get to that place probably within the next ten to
fifteen years. The technology will get that good. But it's
it's it's really remarkable how quickly things have changed. And
I also think, and I'd love to hear your thoughts,

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is that historians always look at at the past through
the lens of the technology we have today. So they say, well,
if they didn't have cell phones and they didn't have
the Internet, they must have been primitive, but they'd never
taken into account. And I'd love to hear what you've
come across the technologies that they in the past, our
ancestors might have had that were far beyond what we have,

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but in a different way. An under better understanding of magnetism,
a better understanding of gravitation, the force of gravity, the
understand the understanding of how to really hone the Earth
in a way that is working with the earth and
not raping the earth as we do today. And I
had a conversation the other day with I forgot his name.

(24:55):
He's the the archaeologist or researcher who came up with
the concept of the Giza Pyramid as a power station,
and Christopher Don Christopher done, yes, thank you. So I
had Christopher on the show and speaking to him, and
in that conversation we're talking, I'm like, isn't an amazing
that we are technology seems to be growing, but we

(25:17):
are still literally burning coal for the electricity that is
needed to run the technology. So all the technology is
moving at the speed of light. But the energy creation
is barbaric. I mean, we're still talking about late eighth.
We're burning, we're burning wood essentially, just a higher level

(25:38):
of wood. So it's pretty miraculous what's going on. But
I'd love to hear your thoughts about that.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
It's all relative, though, isn't it. I mean, the old
day is. The thing I kept hearing again and again
was that the gods were different from humans and so
far as they had complete control and understanding of the
laws of nature, and that's what made them a god.
It's not some invisible force sitting on a throne somewhere.
God is a real person who says, hey, I want
to understand everything there used to know about water. Water

(26:05):
is very interesting. I want to know what happens when
it freezes, when it boils, the difference between the two,
and how we can actually we can do with that
element at both ends of the scale. The moment you
understand how water works in all its ways and forms,
you become a god. Because a god is nothing more
than the spiritual sort of element that surrounds any object.

(26:25):
It's the soul of any object. So a plant has
a god, a tree has a god, and so forth.
We call it a soul. So that's what the difference was.
They had complete understanding of the laws of nature. So
for them from you, when you hear three different people
on the opposite side of the world saying, yeah, that
building over there with the big stones, yeah, that was
built overnight, and they use sounds or vocal commands to

(26:48):
move the stones through the air, and that literally the
stones were pushed by a little kid up to the
top of the hill. And once you think that's a
funny story, twice you think that coincidence. The third time
you hear it from someone else, you think, Okay, now
we're talking about an actual event that was witnessed and
it was written down because it was so incredible to

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people who probably were hunter gatherers, and they'd think, wow,
look at that. I was just sitting here eating a
rabbit the other day, and today there's an entire pyramid there.
That's incredible. I'm going to remember this, make sure that
everybody knows how it was built. Now you fast forward
this to the nineteen eighties Princeton Engineering NOMINALLYSE research departments
who did some incredible experiments, peer reviewed experiments looking at

(27:34):
that lovely fine line between science and mysticism, And they
said they asked the same question that I did, was, well,
why do they choose those enormous rocks to begin with?
Why not use manageable sizes of rock like the Romans did. No,
we're going to do a two thousand pounds block of
stone which no crane on Earth can lift. Why because
they could? So what is the big thing about this rock?

(27:58):
And I said, well, the thing about the rocks is
they used to get moved sometimes from four hundred miles away.
There's rock where they could have built a pyramid, but
they didn't. They went four hundred miles away to get
another kind of rock. So what is it about this
rock and all the other rocks to used to build
a megalists around the world that are different that they

(28:20):
had to go for this laborious process in which to
do well. It turns out it's the type of quartz.
It's the same type of quartz that was used for
early radio receivers. So there's something about the piato electric
quality of this type of quartz in these stones. And
then you've got the iron and the magnetites. That's the

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three elements that are very common to all the stones
in all the megalypts around the world. So Princeton basically said, well,
let's find a chunk of this particular type of crystal,
will put it in the tube, and let's do like
the ancestors did, throw sound at it. And they experimented
week after week. They will change the amplitude and the

(29:05):
frequency of sound, because you're going to get the two
absolutely right. And there was there's one moment and used
to be on their website back in the nineties where
they had a video back in the days when they
had filmed. We talked about this before we went on there,
and it shows quite clearly that they're hitting this thing,
this little lump of crystal, with sound and it gets levitated.

(29:28):
So now we know that the stories were true. We
just now discovered that technology. And conversely, yeah, we may
have lots of technology around today, but I also noticed
there's a huge rising stupidity. We have become morons because
we've given all our power and I'm looking at this
little thing next to me, this little black rectangle, about

(29:50):
this big which I have to carry around with me,
despite the fact that I had a perfectly useful landline.
But people are insisting that I have myself all times
of the day. I don't know why, because I won't
pick it up anyway. If it brings I can't be reached.
I can't be reached, and I refuse to be dominated
by it. So the thing is, I was watching with

(30:13):
sort of well, I don't want to make fun of this,
because when you're in a hurricane, it's not funny. But
when the hurricane was going for New Jersey a few
years ago, I was watching with a bit of slight
sort of detachments how the local people could not figure
out where to go get fresh water, milk, and some
bread because they were so relived in that little box.

(30:36):
To tell them that the seven eleven is two blocks
of where their memory has been completely raised. Whereas you
know me, which I don't use myself, and for that reason,
I know that when the lights go out here in Portland, Maine,
which is quite regularly when we have bigger winter storms,
and the whole town disappears to their second homes in
the countryside, which is kind of ironic because they haven't

(30:58):
got power there.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
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Speaker 2 (31:09):
I'm the only person here that has candles burning in
their living room. I have matches, I have fresh water.
I have things that I can eat in a can
which don't need to be heated up. And I can
survive for a whole week without trying that hard. And
I know where to get milk and I know where
to get bread from because I memorized it. So yeah,
we might have all this brand new technology, but I

(31:31):
find so many people have become dominated by it and
they have given their power away, so in a sense,
and I think I can't remember who. I also came
up with this observation, we're having a problem with names today,
aren't we. Anyway, it was a very interesting character and
he said, you know, it's funny because next time we
get a meteorite hitting the Earth or all the power

(31:51):
goes out, which is not really that difficult. All you
need is the sun spot cycle to hit the right
portion of the planet like I happened in the Eastern
Sea in Canada back in eighteen seventy eight. The Carrington
event knocked out telegraph wires for a whole two weeks.
People suddenly didn't know how to survive because there's no

(32:12):
electricity to keep their homes light and you can't like
the stoves. And I said, you know, it's funny because
at that moment, the people that we call savagers living
in the middle of the Amazon would be the only
survivors on this planet because then there were to fish,
then they had to set traps, then they had to
collect rainwater, and that's the point. Suddenly they're at the
highest level of civilization. But they don't have the technology, no,

(32:36):
but they have their local technology. So it's all relative,
you see, in terms of age and position.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, and you're absolutely right, because you know, I was
telling Christopher this as well. Our system is so fragile.
People are not very much how our system is so fragile,
where those quote unquote savages in the Amazon systems is
extremely robust, could handled so much. We are the ones

(33:05):
who are so fragile in this sense of I mean, look,
I've gone through many hurricanes. I lived in Florida for
a long time. I lived in La I went through earthquakes.
Now Here in Austin we go through power out of
just because of freezes and things like that. You know,
it just found I remember looking around my house. I
was like, this is a other than just keeping snow

(33:25):
off of me. It's become useless to me. Without power.
It's like an empty box that does nothing. It was
basically turned into an ice box. And I was like, wow,
this is fascinating. So if that would happen, if a
cataclysm like you know, like the movie The Day After
or yeah, the Day After Tomorrow or something like that,

(33:46):
where there's a cataclysm of all the technology gone, all
the power is gone, if that would wipe out the
planet or wipe out modern modern civilizations, these tribes will
be the of the food chain again. Absolutely, And you
or me, we'll crawl down from wherever we survived from,

(34:07):
walk into one of these tribes and go, guys, I
got some stuff to talk to you about. And you
and I would try to remember as much as we
could about the technology that would be of benefit to
us there, and we would then sit around the campfire
and tell stories of this little black box they used
to have all the information in the world. This is

(34:29):
not a as a as a filmmaker, as a storyteller,
that story plot is not that outlandish. It's happened before.
Arguably it could happen again. I hope not. We're we're
on the upwards, upward, ahead of that Yuga cycle. So
I'm hoping that we hold for a few more years.
You know, a few more one hundred years would be great.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
I haven't about four seven six.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, Jupiter will take care of that first.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Don't worry, good old Jupiter. Isn't it to make a
leave your comic? Oh thank you Jupiter. But this actually
bit is true. We have the biggest Achilles heel ever
in the history of humanity, where the electricity goes out
and suddenly millions of people, billions of people will not
know what to do. Uh. And here's the worst part

(35:19):
I've just thought about this. Electric cars are now on
the rise. The electric car. Now you can't get away
from all the zombies who are coming over to take
your canned fish that's sitting in your lader assuming, of course,
you forgot to get a can open that, because without
that you can't eat the fish. So no, I think
we are literally heading into a cul de sac, and

(35:41):
that this is the funny thing with and to bring
it back to ancient civilizations. As an interesting paradox here,
when I was finishing the last section of the Missing Lands,
I also hit a bit of a wall where things
are getting a little bit dark, and I don't do dark.
I like to leave my readers with something to hope for,
something that they can grasp and get say, hey, you

(36:02):
know what, We're actually in control if we want to be.
And I remember sitting not far from a beach in
New Zealand struggling with this scenario of how to close
a book. I'm thinking, you know, it's kind of funny
and ironic that twelve thousand years ago, just as the
Ice Age closes, we have the gods saying, hey, we've
got meteorites coming this way, and we have a planet's

(36:24):
being overrun by told by giants covered with red hair
that are eating humans for fun and teaching humans similarly
stupid things. And there's a wonderful moment if you look
at the original Book of Enoch, which by the way,
is not his real name. His real name is Emmed Urnu.
So the writer of the Book of Enok is one
of the Unnaki, one of the nice people. You don't

(36:46):
get to hear the word nice and mark in the
same sentence very often. I'm going to put it there
because I actually believe, having read the original text, that
actually there without them, we wouldn't be having this conversation
right now. They're actually since we're not on the national radio.
They said, our ass from extinction, and they said, you
know what, it's the redheaded giants, the bastard offspring of

(37:11):
the Nephilim, which are the children of Orion that are
running over the entire planet, which told them not to
mate with human women. It would not work. There's two
DNAs that work here and essentially they give birth to
these crazy people who were breeding like rabbits and humans
were disappearing from the food chain literally. And there's this wonderful,

(37:32):
agonizing moment when I'm reading the story, like I'm going
to fly in the room and they say, you know,
we're going to have to wipe out the earth. We're
going to have to make sure that those rocks passing
through the sky in two hundred years are going to
hit the earth a specific points, wipe out everything. Some
of us are going to stay behind to help the
survive humans rebuild their lives. And that's where suddenly humans

(37:55):
after the flood, we discovered civilization in different parts of
the world. World at the same moment, and at the
same moment, you have the stories of the gods who
also helped us out. So all of these are connected,
the point being that we're now facing exactly the same situation.
I've had many conversations with people at NASA, and you

(38:15):
know who they are because they shop at UFO conferences
dressed in monks habits with these reptilian masks made of rubber.
It's so funny, Genie. It's like, and we're having there's
someone to go a photograph of us having a conversation
at a UFO conference. It looks like a normal everyday

(38:36):
interaction where I'm looking very serious, like I'm really and
I am listening to what they're saying. But you have
two reptiles talking to me and doing this with their hands,
and they're talking about hyperdimensional physics. But it looks so
ordinary that the whole photograph and the whole point of
the conversation was we love hearing about these stories that
you write about because our ancestors are telling us that

(38:58):
exactly we are now one half cycle from where the
last catastrophe hit. Okay, so we've spoken about this before.
It's a twenty six thousand year cycle. We're on the
half cycle. We're facing the same end of civilization scenario
because between twenty thirty two and twenty thirty eight, and
that's just saying there's a one to ten chunks that

(39:21):
we are going to be hit by the same chunks
of rock that came around twelve thousand years ago. Because
it's a loop goes around in a very very long loop,
and it crosses the solar system, and we call it
the Tory meteor shower. It happens every November. And I
was having a chat with Robert Shock about this, the

(39:41):
geologist who's also very big on solar cycles, and he said,
you know, it's funny. We've had thirteen near end of
scenario situations since the Great Flood, most of them to
do with solar flares, but occasionally there's also there's big
chunks called the Tory meet Your Shower, and the Earth
just happens to be in the wrong place at the
wrong time every November, and the big chunks are coming

(40:03):
around again. Now we've evolved or devolved, depending on a
point of view, into these technological beasts. We have lighting,
we have the cell phones, we have the computer and
electric cars, and we're ever so clever. But now we're
at the point we're facing the same extincsion scenario, and
I'm wondering there there's a lesson here, which is what

(40:25):
the ugas are really big on about. Lessons about the
end of cycles and the fact that we go for
these things for a very very good reason. There will
always be survivors, will always be on an ever ascending spiral.
This is nothing new.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
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Speaker 2 (40:50):
And I just think that we're at this point in
time where we are faced with the same problem, and
this time I think that we have the means to
get ourselves out of it. And I think that's going
to be the big lesson here. We're not going to
rely on the gods or the little green men to
get us out of this. We're going to rely on
us this time to use our technology to figure out
how to avoid those big chunks. And I was struggling

(41:13):
with us on this beach in New Zealand, as one
does on a beach in New Zealand with big stories,
and I said, you know, we've done so many experiments
with intention. We have the ability now to map intention
and the use of intention to accommodate and change the
behavior of machines. And again Princeton Anomali's research department was

(41:34):
very big on this. They actually had another peer review
experiment where there's a group of twenty people in the
room who were able to change the computerized drum beat
just by thinking and putting the idea to the machine,
and they forced the machine to change. That is huge
that we can interact with something that's invisible, but it's
now measurable with a machine. If we can do that,

(41:58):
and then if you take that to the next logical step,
which is the transcendental meditation movement, which on occasion comes
to America. They show up in Chicago and that sort
of West Chicago, Central Washington and other nefarious places which
have the worst crime rate in the summer. So again,
a small group of monks, a focused intent will change

(42:22):
the crime rate, and they did. These are peer reviewed experiments. Well,
mathematician gets involved and says, it's funny, you only need
one percent of the local population thinking of the same thing.
In other words, a controlled initiate, a controlled intent experiments
to alter the outcome of your local environment, which means,

(42:43):
if we're faced with mutual destruction from big rocks, and
we're waiting for the gods to come and bail us out,
and they're not going to. But as part of our
evolution to figure things out for ourselves, it only takes
one percent of the population of the Earth to move
those rocks away this time. So twelve thousand years ago
the rocks have been drawn to us. Now we're going
to have a chance of movement away. I'm not saying

(43:04):
this is the what's going to happen. This is a
potential scenario that's upon us right now. We have time
to think about this. And the Maya also talked about this,
because they've said everybody's focused on twenty twelve at the
end of the world, and they roll their eyeboard. I said, no,
that was the midpoint. No one's read the story properly.
It's a sixty year window when we are given the

(43:25):
opportunity to assess where we are, look around and go, ah,
big changes are coming. The midpoint is twenty twelve. After that,
the next thirty years, the window starts closing and things
get much more dramatic. Earth changes will be upon you.
Society will go black and white. There'll be very discrepancy
between you know, people having a gray area argument. We're

(43:48):
very much focused on opposites right now in terms of politics,
in terms of anything. It's hard to have a discussion
with anybody these days. And that fits in beautifully with
the end of their cycle, which is twenty five forty two,
conveniently four years after this event has taken place. So
since they've already predicted there's gonna be another cycle after this,

(44:09):
I think we'll do just fine. But we do like
to take it right up to the last minutes. You know,
humans are very good about going right to the edge
and going I think I'll have another hand sandwich before
the meteorites write. I think I'll just have half the
sandwich and I'll get this done with. That's what I
was working on when I was coming up with this
sort of what's going on in terms of the big picture.

(44:32):
And again I'm not saying that's what's going to happen,
but that's the likely scenario and there is a potential
for a very happy ending.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
You mentioned something in regards to the giants, and that
is something I haven't really heard or done a lot
of research on the giants that apparently walk the earth
at a certain point, and you know, it's in law
and in myth. But i'd love to hear your thoughts
what you came across with these giants, these redheaded giants,

(45:01):
because I've heard things about it with atlantis. I've heard
of hybrid hybrid children. I've heard of a bunch of
different things in my travels. I'd love to hear what
you come across.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
They're in every culture on the planet, and again, Pacific
is full of these stories. By the way, you wouldn't
think of the Pacific being a hot spot of a
hotbed of giant law and ancient civilization law, because I
know it was hardly any land left. But that's the point.
One Russian physicist said, at the end of the Ice Age,
the Pacific lost more land than anywhere else on the planet.

(45:38):
Everything else was affected, but the Pacific got it worse
than anything else. The first European to finally show up
in the Pacific and the sixteenth century is a Portuguese
navigator called pet the Cators. And I can say that
because I am Portuguese, so I'm very proud of that guy.
They're going around collecting recipes around the world. Before they

(45:58):
also became is that colonized everything. It happens to everybody.
And they said, it's funny. Every time we meet the
Pacific islanders, they're very adamant that these are not islands.
These are the summits of the mountains where the ancestors
used to live, and the land mass is now under
the ocean. Once you say that, you pay attention. So
I've been collecting stories around the Pacific rim And they

(46:20):
said again and again that back in the day, the
gods were much taller than us. There were light skins,
not white people. There were light skins. They had blonde
or reddish hair, and to this very day there's a
lot of women in Polynesia that will still coat their
hair with an orange color to make them look like

(46:41):
the gods, just the ceremony or to bring back a
storytelling technique. And they said that these people were different
to us. They were human like, but not quite human.
They found it very difficult to breed with us because
of the obvious size difference, because their genetics were slightly difference.
Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. But they were very

(47:02):
much taller than us. And in one of the temples
in Egypt they actually give you a specific height. They
were called the Aha that was the nickname, which comes
from Aku it means a shining one. And the idea
was that there were five cubits tall. Now, if you
use the royal cubit as your base measurement, that's eight

(47:22):
and a half feet tall, and that's pretty consistent with
the skeletons that were found in the place where I
spent most of my life and obviously where my accent
comes from, which is Great Britain. They're giants gray is everywhere.
I've met plenty of archaeologists who have given up being
archaeologists because they got tired of watching the evidence being destroyed.

(47:43):
They couldn't account for it, so they were told to
destroy the bones and grind them into dust. Same thing
with the Maori. I just came back from New Zealand
listening to the stories by the Maori and they're saying, yeah,
that hill over there is called Mount Kadiori and it
means the mountain of the redheaded giants. Eighteen fifty they
were still living up there and we just left them alone.

(48:04):
The end of a very proud people. They just couldn't
breathe with anybody, so we just left them be. They
didn't pose any harm to anybody. It's kind of sad
because they knew they were on their way out. And
I heard exactly the same story in Appalachia with a
Cherokee that said, yeah, that river called the Allegheny, it's
named for the Alawani. It's a corruption of the word Alowani.

(48:26):
And that was the name of the tall redheaed giants
about eight and a half feet all that were in
Appalachia when we came across them moving across America, and
they had survived a sinking continent in the middle of
the Atlantic Ocean. And again they found it difficult to
breed with women. They tried and their women died during
childbirth because they gave birth to infants. So the stories

(48:49):
of these people are everywhere. But here's the thing to
really re understand. These are the original people that were
called the gods. The offspring were the problem. So that's
where we get into the story again of Enoch or
I want to get that name across so that more
people say that rather than Enoch, because so many of

(49:10):
these students get bastardized bright different culture. So he's writing
about what was taking place among the lords of Anu
and the Watchers, who basically were the intermediaries between the
lords of Anu and human beings, because they didn't want
to hang out with humans. They were recognized that new
more than hunter gathererers, so they figured, because we are

(49:31):
much more developed than they, we really should keep a
safe distance from them, because they have to develop on
their own. Otherwise the meeting of two very disparate cultures
never ends. Well. I mean, look at what we do.
When we go to the middle of New Guinea. We
bump into people that are still running around with our clothes.
Next thing you know, they've got clothes and there's a hierarchy.
We've completely changed the course of their direction artificially. Okay,

(49:55):
people need to grow organically, that's the way to do it.
But sometimes you need a little bit of helping hands.
So the lords of Ournu would say, look, watchers, go
down to the plains and tell so and so over
there that if he meets a match of the two
strands of wheat together, he can actually get a kind
of grain that's actually edible, and you crush it between

(50:16):
two stones, you can make flower and make red with it,
and then come back to the top of the hill.
And that was what was going on for a long,
long time. They would only hang out with us whenever
they really really had to. But there was for the
reasons we don't know because the book is incomplete. There
was one small group of watchers who always get the story.

(50:37):
They always get the attention. We'll be right.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
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Speaker 2 (50:49):
One small group of the watchers that decided to hang
out with human women and they gave birth to the Nephila,
the children of Oryan, and that's where the problem begins.
You see, these people were not well adjusted, and then
they had another series of offspring. They're the real problem.
So these are the really big tall people beyond eight

(51:09):
and a half feet tall. They were still living in
the Solomon Islands in the Second World War because the
service people from the American military bumped into them and
they said, we don't sleep with a revolver under our
pillow because of the Japanese. It's because of the giants
were covered with redhead. It looked like yetti or some

(51:30):
what do you call it bigfoot sasquatch? Yeah, sasquatch, which
is probably what it is. Actually that when you see them,
you go, ah, I am sleeping with a revolver at night,
not because we were threatened by them. They obviously wanted
to keep their distance, and they hang up in the mountains,
and sometimes they'd be very helpful. One of our jeeps
would fall or would run over the side of a road,

(51:52):
and then we'd come back down the hill. We're going
to truck to bring the cheap back up from the ditch,
and someone had taken the jeep out of the ditch,
put it back on the road, pointing downhill as it
to say, can you just go back to where you
came from and leave us alone. So they were very
respectful and we respected them. But still when you see
a guy that's ten feet tall covered with red hair,

(52:13):
you don't take any risks. So again, you see this
all around the world. There was two, so there's actually
three things going on here. You have human hunter gatherers.
You have this parallel civilization of very tall gods with
light skin and red hair and blonde hair. And then
you have this hybrids of human and godly like people

(52:34):
who their DNA just did not go down very well
and they were completely crazy, and they're the problem in
all these stories. They're the ones who really were not
the best friends of humanity. But again they get all
the attention, which is a bit sad because it kind
of kind of squeezes the story and what it's trying
to sell us.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
That's amazing, that's well, thank you for enlightening me on giants,
because I've heard of them, I just really never did
the deep into them before.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Now I know right to West Virginia. The secret to
all this is in West Virginia. And my American friends
think I'm smoking something weird when I say that Virginia
is one of the most interesting parts of the country,
and they'll look at me, like West Virginia. I said, yeah,
go look at the mounds or the Giant mounds and
the things that the Cherokee preserved up there. There's a

(53:24):
lot of history out there. That's where you find out
about the real continental at least the eastern seaboarders the
United States. The history is right there.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Well with while you're traveling. You've also talked a lot
about monoliths, and I am fascinated with monoliths. I've seen
a handful of myself in my life, and I always
find I find them fascinating. But what I've discovered more
and more is the pyramids that just seem to be
popping up everywhere and meaning that we were taught, Uh,

(53:55):
there's a great pyramid in Egypt, Gyptian pyramids, the one
that has all they get all the press. Then they're
the South American pyramids. Okay, they get a little something.
Then within the last few years, like last thirty or
forty years, in the grand scheme of things, India, I
think that India has a couple and then but now
it's like Japan, India, throughout the Middle East, China has

(54:20):
more pyramids than any other place on the planet apparently,
like there's so there's so many pyramids and so many
of these monolists. They all seem to be in the
twenty ninth parallel, close to the twenty ninth parallel. To
my understanding as well, how are these all connected and
how because it sounds like there was communication across the

(54:40):
pond with the Egyptian and Mayan because I always said that,
I was like, how, I mean, yeah, they're not exactly
the same pyramids, but they're pretty I sat and I
stood in front of Chichen Itza and I sat there,
I'm like, what is happening right now? Are you kidding me, like,

(55:01):
this is the pyramid like hunter gatherers did this. No,
I can't see it. I spoke to an archaeologist, a
more traditional archaeologist, the other day and he's like, well,
you know, because I asked him that question, like how
is it that they're also similar around the world. Like, well,
you know, it's kind of like you put a bunch
of monkeys in the room together, they're eventually going to

(55:22):
figure out that the pyramid is the strongest, more stable force.
So that's just different versions of that. I was like, hmm,
didn't sound very interested, but okay, fair, fair enough, fair enough,
that's your point of view. He was a much more
traditional academic, But I love to hear how you thought
how these are all connected and how the information came

(55:44):
across to each other. I mean, because there's just thousands
of pyramids around the world.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Yeah, I mean the position is actually very important because
it shows you that once upon a time, there was
a time where the climate was such that you could
not live on most of the earth, and that was
the Second Nice Age. So yeah, most of the northern
hemispheres covered with ice, the bottom hemispheres covered with ice.
There's a little band where we got the world's all
the sacred sites within that thin band, and that compresses

(56:13):
the time period pretty quickly, and that was the time
period that the all the ancient cultures say that, Yeah,
there was basically a parallel civilization here. They lived on
islands or places that behaved like islands, and they kept
themselves to themselves, but they shared information. They were part
of the same college, if you'd like, They read from
the same book, and that makes a lot more sense.

(56:34):
And in fact, there's one great story that I get
from New Zealand from the Whiterha. None's ever heard of
the Whiterha. They're one of the oldest people on the planet.
They lived in Easter Islands when they were an archipelago,
and they they remember it being an archipelago. That's twelve
thousand years ago. Unless you're an oceanographer, you will not
know that only twelve thousand years ago was Easter Island

(56:57):
a series of islands. So they've got the time when
they're actually interacting with the gods, and the gods are
taking these double halt canoes called Walkers, enormous things. I
mean you could put two hundred people on them. And
the Simons are still building them today, and they go
from their original homeland which is on Lake Titi Kaka.
They go to Easter Island to refuel, hang out with

(57:18):
the Waiaha, and then they sail to the birthplace of
the gods, which is in the South Island of New Zealand.
And I've been there and it's the most incredible landscape
temporary lever see that's from another story. And they also
used to go all the way across the Pacific and
the Indian Ocean. Because these gods, which they call the Uruke,
which the Redhead people, they also had the same mannerisms

(57:41):
and descriptions as the Egyptian followers of Horace, the Shining
Ones followers of Horace, who had the same description of
mannerism as Vida Kosha and his hi Iowa Pante. So
it's the same crowd by the but they've been called
different names around the world. And that's the one thing
that connects these stories. They were all boring from the
same manual. Now they're very ations on the theme. Because

(58:05):
the one thing that many people don't know is that
when you're looking at a pyramid like Jucinita, you're looking
at four different pyramids. Because the pyramid keeps growing, it
starts off. And this is the thing I like about
the Maya. They built these enormous structures over enormous holes
on the ground called sinats. Those are the holes made
by the meteorites that basically killed off the dinosaurs. Because

(58:27):
all the rivers in Yucatan are on the ground, which
is wonderful because they're in a place where it's so hot,
the water doesn't dry up and it's always perfectly filtered
through limestone. You can drink the water out of any sonati.
And so they got these big holes and they put
a pyramid over the hole, and basically it's a very
ceremonial place. So you basically in order to get into

(58:49):
the pyramid, there's no exterior door per se. You have
to travel by a sort of a canoe underground through
a river and go into the belly of the earth
Mother and then go for an umbilical cord into the
central cortex of the pyramid. Do your work in their
new pier at the top and the platform. The stairs
are for going down, not for going up. And I've

(59:10):
heard this from a lot of the mind elders who
know a lot more about this than I do. And
they said, yeah. Basically, if you think about it, you've
got the Earth mother, the middle world, which is the
internal chamber, and you've got the phallus, so masculine and
the feminine, and you are the middle between the two,
so the places of initiation, integration of learning, and depending

(59:30):
on the shape and the position, they fulfill other functions
as well. Part of the technology used to do with
an earth acupuncture. All of these buildings are placed exactly
where you don't want to build a big building, which
is a fracture zone or a place where earthquakes happen
to happen with intense regularity. So excuse me. Along the Nile,

(59:54):
which is a massive fraction the Earth's zone, you have
some of the biggest buildings on the entire planet. And
you think, are these people completely mad? No, because the
way that the buildings are built using different forms of geology,
and Chris Dunn, I think brought this up originally. You
have the masculine or positively charged granite in the center,

(01:00:17):
and you have the negative limestone of the front that's
basically as a battery, and the same thing happens for
the monoliths around the world. They are placed exactly the
biggest concentrations of monoliths appear in the world's biggest earthquake zones.
So it's telling you that there's something about these buildings
that are not just there for you and me to
go and work in and get some personal work done.

(01:00:38):
They're fulfilling it a kind of an earth acupuncture as well.
They're kind of limiting the damage that the earth can
do to itself and also to us. And I've heard
this in Easter Island as well. The original moi, which
are the basalt ones. These are the ones that have
a body attached to the head, and they go thirty
nine feet deeper into the ground that we thought they did. Well. Yeah,

(01:00:58):
the level of sediments as much older than eight hundred years.
Even someone who does basic geology can understand that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
And I've spoken to Robert Shock about this, and he
completely agrees with this, and that the story overlaps beautifully
with the story of the whiter here when they lived there.
They talk about the moai, not as in we went
chock chop chop chok into the quarry. We took it
up the hill would place them. The story is already
the moai in the story already around the time of

(01:01:37):
the ice Age. For them, it's like as a matter
of facts, So they already precede these people. They've been
there for so long. But they said that they were
put there, the original Moai were put there to stop
in that quote, stopped the lord of earthquakes in his lair.
So there was something about an acupuncture that was going
on in the Easter Island to basically make the whole

(01:01:59):
thing much more manager, to give to people a chance
to survive a big earthquakes. And when you look at
the amount of metal inside the stone like besalt, that
begins to make a lot of sense. So these buildings, again,
they come from the same book, they come from the
same manual. They are fulfilling a multitude of functions, and

(01:02:20):
they're basically designed by the same brother and system the
people who taught us the accouterments of civilization.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Let me ask you this, because this is another area
of this of ancient civilizations that are is now starting
to be gained a little steam Antarctica. A lot of
people think it's just it was just big, big pile
of ice, which is not It is an actual continent
and actual land mass. What have you learned in your

(01:02:50):
travels about what Antarctica was, because it wasn't always under ice,
just like Geezer wasn't always a desert that was actually
very florid.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
I like it. It's the beginning of the Atlantic Ocean
right there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
I mean, but I'd love to hear what you've come
across as far as ancient or pre flood civilizations in Antarctica.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
For anything, it wouldn't surprise me. I mean, I'm kind
of on the I'm looking from the outside in right now,
because we have no evidence to back anything up right now.
It's all hypotheses. But that's where you start any great idea.
And we know from ancient maps that were designed at
a time when we did not have the mapping technology

(01:03:36):
or the navigational ability to know where Antarctica was or
even go there if we had. So there are maps
showing up all over Europe that show Antarctica's two land masses,
and that's exactly what it is to know that. I
think it took NASA until what nineteen seventy five to
have a satellite up there and go, hey, let's find
out what's under the eye. Said, Oh, it's too continent

(01:03:58):
separated by a river. Well what the map of I
think it a fineas show.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
The Persy map or oh god, yeah I know the map.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
One is finger the Phineus map, and basically it shows
the hole of Antarctica, beautifully mapped out as two land masses.
Now we know in only four thousand years ago that
the Ross ice Shelf was actually not frozen. It was
a running sea and there were rivers everywhere. They found
sediments coming from a river and also bits of trees

(01:04:31):
that were still perfectly preserved in the ice. So in
four thousand years the Royces Ice Shelf has actually developed itself.
So it's always evolving, always moving. Then you got plate tectonics.
The planet is always shifting. Queen Maude lands with that
big fingerlike thing that stretches pointing up at Chile and Argentina.
That used to be exactly where Santiago was where Santiago

(01:04:55):
is today, So that's moved what six hundred miles further south.
Everything's always moving and shifting over a lot of contents,
so it would not surprise me that at some point
someone was down there. I mean, I've I've had only
stories about the Foo fighters and the fact that Nazis
went down there, and I've had some I'm not discrediting it.

(01:05:17):
I'm just saying that it's kind of fanciful when you
think that, for example, a whole bunch of Nazis survived
under the ice at minus thirty degrees for sixty years,
creating this technology to go work. Well, they can't go anywhere.
They'll get bombed out of existence at the moment they
picked their heads out. And secondly, how are you going
to keep warm? Oh, because of the magma under the ice? Well,

(01:05:40):
isn't the magma going to melt the ice on top
of it? So I don't really subscribe to that theory.
Maybe they went there, but I don't think they survived
very well. And there's also the other talk of pyramids there. Yeah,
it looks very pyramidal. There's some images which are very definitive.
You see the edges and everything. Until you go there,
you'll know. And I'll tell you why, because I had

(01:06:02):
the same thing in New Zealand too. Of all places,
there was a beach I really wanted to go to.
There's a place. It's an Albatross Colony, which is rare
in itself, and it was a place where the Waitaha
had the settlements. So for those reasons, I wanted to
go there. And I was just looking on Google Earth
about tracks and the public access, and there's two pyramids,
black pyramids right next to the beach, huge things, and

(01:06:26):
I thought, I can't be the first person's surely locals
know about these pyramids, but why has no one done
any research on this? Well, now I'm really curious. So
I went down there and had a lovely walk, and
you're walking down this wonderful path and they look beautifully
just like two Egyptian pyramids made of results. I mean,

(01:06:47):
they're perfectly black, the outlines are absolutely perfect, and you're
walking for about two miles, that's how big they are,
and you think this is going to be interesting, and
as yet closer you realize that this is a natural form.
You can see the basil columns, the octagonal basilt columns,
and then here's a crystal cave in the middle. Essentially,

(01:07:07):
nature sometimes does things very geometrically and purposely, and as
you get closer you can see that the whole thing
is a natural extrusion of basalt from the ocean when
this extrusion was under the ocean, and it cools very rapidly.
But the further way you get from it, the better
it looks like it's actually a man made to man
made pyramids. So until you get there, until you get

(01:07:29):
to Antarctica and do the research, you just don't know.
But I would not be surprised if the people would
have lived there at some point, given the fact that
everything moves in shapes all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
From any of the indigenous people were there any I
don't even I don't even know if any myths that
I know of that are are from people from Antarctica.
It's just it's that far back that I I just
never even heard it before.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Yeah, the closest people are the people is a tribe
in Tierra del Fuego in Chile, I don't know what called,
and they have stories of redhead giants down there, so
we know that they're definitely existed and that little tip
of the planet. So who knows, maybe the giants had
a secret base in Antarctica. But no, you're right, you
never get to hear about anything. I've tried. I've looked

(01:08:18):
into all the documents that were written by the Europeans
who actually it was the the Jesuits when they were
going through Polynesia and literally just wiping everybody out. But
before they did, they were very nice. They wrote down
all the stories of the indigenous people. So I like
reading their notebooks, which Google thankfully has actually scanned for us,

(01:08:43):
so we can actually read these things. And if your
Portuguese and your Spanish is pretty good, they're pretty easy
to read. And I can't find anything in there either,
not even need Francis Indonesia, South Africa. I thought might
have some information. I read the work of Credon Mutwa,
who's written everything about mythology in that part of the world,
and again nothing, So it's a mystery.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
It's a very interesting mystery, Freddie, I can keep talking
to you for about six or seven hours.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Uh, my jet lag is calling.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Exactly, I mean it. We definitely have to have you
back because we have scratched the surface about a bunch
of munch a bunch of other things I wanted to
talk to you about before we Oh no, it's no,
it's like it's well, it's it's a lifetime, like you've
taken twenty five years already. It's a lifetime to go through.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
I'm scratching the surface, my friend. I really am scratching
the surface. Every time I write a book, I think
I know so much, and then something else comes across
my desk and I go, I don't know anything at all.
I mean, that's good. It means that. When my accountant says, so,
when you're planning to retire, I said, when I die,
that's when I retire. There's so much interesting stuff out there,

(01:09:53):
and you've got to take your time researching it and
cross referencing it, and you know, sitting back and people
have laughed and said, you know what, it's a bit
like waiting for an album from Boston to get a
book out of you. I said, yeah, it takes time
to do proper research. You can't just keep coming up
with a book every six months because you can't work
that fast. I mean not unless you have you know,
you can hire research assistance, and then you you've got

(01:10:16):
across the t's and dot THEI is. It takes time
to get the information set back and take us a
big view over it. It just takes a lot of efforts.
So but I'm getting that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
I'll tell you. I mean I'll tell you what. I've
got over four hundred and forty hours und almost five
hundred hours of interviews on this show alone. It's basically
masterclasses on each of these kind of topics. And just
when I thought, oh, I've heard it all, someone like
you comes along and you'll throw a little seed of
about something you just said. I'm like, parallels, realizations. Oh God,

(01:10:52):
I go oh the Red Giants, Jesus, I gotta go
do that. Just when you think you've heard a little no, no, no,
oh no, was enough?

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Pipelago?

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Oh no, I gotta go down there. What their maps? Now?
I'm gonna go look at the maps now. Like it's
just it's never ever ends, never ending. But I appreciate
you coming on show. I'm going to ask you a
few questions. Ask all my guests what is your definition
of living a fulfilled life. We'll be right back after
a word from our sponsor, and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
I guess if you learn to understand or even discover
your your soul's purpose in this lifetime, and you can,
you're able to fulfill it. I think that's probably what
it is. Am I doing it? I guess I am?
I mean I spent most of my life in the
commercial world as a creative director. I hated every minute

(01:11:48):
of it. Well, actually no, I had great fun, but
I didn't like what I was doing because I didn't
feel like I was contributing to society in any meaningful way.
I made a lot of money, but it's just not important.
I wanted to be a rock musician. That didn't go
very well because I knew I didn't quite have that
talent that you know you need to have to be

(01:12:09):
different to everybody else. You can't just be, you know,
a Jimi Hendrix or a Tony Iomi or any your
favorite guitar players. You want to mention this because you
know there's something different about you. And I was smart
enough to understand that I could pull my weight, but
not good enough to make a living out of it.
And now I'm doing exactly what I'm doing. It's difficult,
it's lonely. It would be nice to share my adventures

(01:12:32):
with someone special, but that's another story. But yeah, no,
I think if you know who you are the soul,
not as a brain or as this guy in this thing,
but if you can understand who you are as a
soul and know that what you're doing is the correct path,
and you're happy doing it despite the challenges. I think
you're doing pretty well. So I think I'm about sixty

(01:12:55):
to seventy percent.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
There, better than most of my friend better than most
I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
I think the whole purpose is that if you make
a difference in life when you die, when you physically die,
and you can say you know what, and you you know,
you're floating above the room and you're going. You know,
I think I left the world one percent better than
when I found it, and I think I've improved a
few people's lives. You can see done pretty well, you know,
so nobody if I can do that, I'm doing pretty
well now.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
If you had a chance to go back in time
and speak to little Freddie, what advice would you give them?

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Make sure your hair never falls out, and keep up
the guitar lessons, and screw everybody that tells you that
you're no good and you should be going. You should
be off working at a bank or become an architect.
Is my parents wanted me to be, And I said,
and finally miserable for for like ten years, because you
don't know what the hell you're doing you're trying to
fill in some gap in your life that you have

(01:13:48):
to pay the bills, but you don't know what you
want to do because you want your passions here, and
you're sold that don't follow your passion. No follow your passion,
because when you die, you can say, you know what.
I may have formed on my face once or twice,
but at least I did it, and I have no regrets.
That would be my advice to my younger self. Just
go out there and bloody well do it?

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
Beautiful, beautiful? Now, how do you define yes? Yes? How
do you define God? Or source energy?

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
God? You, me, the lamp, post, the cell phone, Everything
is God. God is essentially this creative paradox where it
creates everything by knowing everything. But the paradox is it
knows nothing, so it sends all of us out to
explore on its behalf to report back to It's what

(01:14:39):
it created. If you can make sense of that, let
me know, because it hurts my head. Yeah, so we're here.
It's weird expressions of that Godhead expressing the Godhead on
its behalf, reporting back on what touches me. That And
someone actually said to me recently, had this crazy as
over a few drinks in a pub in New Zealand.

(01:14:59):
Can I've just been there? Because I'm talking so much
about it? That said, God, you know, I think God
was just bored. I think that's the secret to life.
God was just bored. It just went, you know what,
I know everything? What else can I do? I'm bored?
And it creates everything from nothing? But yet it had
to know everything in or to create what it created.

(01:15:20):
And I'm thinking, Okay, I need another beer right now because.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
It hurts already. And what is the ultimate purpose of life? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
God, no, in terms of the big picture, Oh, I
know what the purpose is. I belong to a channeling
group in England where we have access to some very
interesting information and our fearless, glorious leader also works with
the police in sorting ninety nine point nine percent of
crimes that get handed to her. We know the information

(01:15:53):
she gets is very very good because we act on it.
And there's things I can't really tell you because of
what we do in the background, which are really what
we call spiritual terrorism. We go around fixing things behind
the scenes and that's our little thing. But I did
get the chance to ask some very high level people
during one of the sessions, what's this all about? And

(01:16:15):
they said to have an experience, and the whole room went,
what Yeah, you having an experience. So once I'm done
with this experience and I go back to the source,
what happens, Well, do you have another experience? And then
what happens? And another one? So if you had lots
of experiences, Oh, we had so many that we don't
need any more experiences. Now we're guiding younger souls like

(01:16:36):
you two on your experience so that because we know
how difficult it is, one day you'll be in our
position pushing out advice because you've had so many experiences
and you've got the T shirt and you don't need
to do anything else. And I mean, that's the meaning
of life is to have an experience. It.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Yes, it's beautiful. I've heard the same thing, sir, I've
heard the same.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Yeah, and to which they said, don't worry, be happy.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
And where can people find out more about you and
the amazing work you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
In the book. Oh God helped them. I'm sure they've
got better things to do. They can go on my
website and look at all the books and all the
videos and lots of articles a bit there for at
least a week. It's called Invisible Temple dot com. Pretty.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
It has been such a pleasure and honor speaking to you,
my friend. I can't wait to have you back on
the show. We could talk so so much more about stuff.
So I appreciate you, my friend. Thank you again.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Well, thank you for having me Ellen.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
And it's Alex Sir by the way, Sorry, Alex, I'll
forgive you because you have a sixteen hour jet lag.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
I have a sixteen hour jet leg.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Appreciate you, my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
I'm serting the airport.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
I want to thank Freddie so much for coming on
the show and sharing his experience and knowledge with all
of us. If you want to get links to anything
we spoke about in this episode, head over to the
show notes and Next Level soul dot com forward slash
four three four.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
If this conversation stirred something in you, there's more waiting.
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