NLS 434: STUNNING PROOF Found: ANNUNAKI Origins, Extinct BIBLICAL GIANTS, & The Nephilim! with Freddy Silva

Freddy Silva is a bestselling author, and a leading researcher of ancient civilizations, restricted history, sacred sites and their interaction with consciousness. He has published eight books in six languages, and produced thirteen documentaries. Described by one CEO as "perhaps the best metaphysical speaker in the world right now,” for two decades he has been an international keynote speaker, with notable appearances at the International Science and Consciousness Conference, the International Society For The Study Of Subtle Energies & Energy Medicine, and the Association for Research and Enlightenment, in addition to History Channel, BBC, GAIA TV, numerous podcasts and radio shows such as Fade To Black and Coast To Coast. He is also a documentary filmmaker with 14 published titles. and leads private tours to sacred sites worldwide

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The views and opinions expressed in thispodcast are those of the guests and do
not necessarily reflect the views or positionsof this show, its host, or
any of the companies they represent.Now today on the show, we have
Freddy Silva, who is a ancientcivilization researcher, and we sit down and

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talk about pre flood civilizations, themysterious origins of the Sumerian Aunaki myths as
well as Naki myths around the world, and most interestingly, the origins of
giants around the world. He hasdiscovered some amazing things that I think you

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guys are gonna get blown away by. So let's dive it. I like
to welcome to the show, FreddieSilva. How you doing, Freddy?
Pretty well? Pretty well, myfriend. Thank you so much for coming
on the show. Man. I'ma big fan of the work you've been
doing for many, many years nowabout ancient civilizations and sacred sites and monoliths,
and I mean, you're talking dirtyto me, man, I mean,

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this is the kind of stuff thatI love talking about. And also
just not only talking about that theancient civilization lost history aspect of it,
but then how is it mixed withspirituality and our evolution spiritually throughout throughout humanity,
because those two are very connected,especially the older and the farther you

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go back. I've sensed that thereis a lot more spirit spirituality and connecting
to things that we, well withinrecent years, used to look at as
like oh, that's woo woo,or that's that. But things like meditation,
things that have been now proven byscience that are just like no,
no, there's there's something here.So but I appreciate you coming on the

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show. My friend, thank you, Oh my pleasure. It was good
to talk about things that it's goodto talk dirty. I actually mentioned that
at restaurants when the waitress comes overand says, are you interested in desert
dirty me? Sometimes it works,and sometimes they're called the police. They'll

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become a pervert or something that's verystrange. Depending on where you are on
the planet. Some people have nosense of humor exact, and if you're
lucky you get double dessert for free. It's wonderful exactly depending on the restaurant
and the waitress, or as itsays, as as it goes. So
my first question to you is youwrote a book about the pre flood civilizations,

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which is one of my favorite topicsbecause, I mean, we've all
heard of Atlantis, We've heard ofLemeria, new these are those are the
three big ones that I know of. But you go at it in a
very different way. How do theindigenous accounts inform our understanding of the preflood

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civilizations? Well, I mean that'swhat interested me as well, because so
much of our history comes from anacademic background that you know, thinks that
it's version of history is the onlyversion of history. I like to hear
the story from people whose answers areactually there, and we hardly ever get
to ask them the questions. Sothe project really was to go around and
my travels and find out and gatherfrom people, you know, the impressions

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from their ancestors and their stories.And in a place like South America,
when you're up at Lady Dikaka,you're at thirteen thousand feet, you're doing
the coca leaf and trying to keepsome oxygen in your blood seed on pass
out and it's all legal, bythe way. So and I'm talking to
the I am Mara. There's onlyabout nine thousand Iyamara left. It's a

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disappearing culture. Turns out that oneof the oldest people on the planet.
They have the language which basically appearsto have been designed by a computer.
It didn't develop organically like you know, you and I over a million years
go from you know, ug toI'll have a cheeseburger with friars which can
ketch up on the side. Yeah, you develop it in terms of need,
but Imara just develops immediately and itbecomes it has the same syntax that

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a computer can understand. So whenthey start talking to me about this kind
of stuff. I want to hearwhat was going on in their history.
And they said, well, thanksfor asking us, because no one ever
does. And they started talking aboutthese places where that came from. Originally
during a global flood, when mountainsof fire fell from the sky and they
hit the earth exactly where you don'twant them to hit, which is the

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ocean, and created these enormous tidalwaves. And they're talking about how they
moved to Lady d Kago along witha group of gods called the Haihaiwapanti.
And I said, well, doesthat mean anything in Ayamara and they said,
yeah, it means shining people.I said, well, you realize
that's what the Egyptians call the floodgods in Egypt. And they said,

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well, well, well that doesn'tsurprise us because the Egyptians were here a
long time ago. So now you'rein a completely different conversation. We don't
hear about Egyptians in South America veryoften. And they're saying, yeah,
we came from a land called Lapokije. Some people call it Muul, and
some people call it Limuria. There'sno such thing as Limuria. It's mu
Ul. I said, great,that's good. Well, do you realize

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that that's what the Maya called thisbig land in the middle of the Pacific
as well? And they said,who the hell are the Maya? So
yeah, when you start hearing thesestories and they start to have a correspondence
in other parts of the world,you listen and you know, if you'd
say the same story to the Hope, they'd say, oh, yeah,
we called it kash Kata. Soafter a while I'm gathering all of these

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pieces of the puzzle and realizing thatit wasn't just one big land mass in
the Pacific. In fact, itcould have been there a long long time
ago, and I'm talking about millionsof years ago, but in terms of
the last fifteen thousand years, theremay have been many pieces where all these
people came from. And that startsto look a bit more realistic. As

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a sea level rise, as theearth changes and play techtonics also comes into
play, things start breaking up.So we're getting to the point now where
we're goin to understand that there's manyland masses in the Pacific. That's where
the gods live, that's where huntergatherers lived, and it wasn't a sense
of people being better or worse thananybody else. There wasn't a racial superiority.

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Everybody got along just fine. There'sa sense of mutual respect between races.
So that's what fascinated me about theresearch, is to go elma hunt
for the place where the gods originallycame from. And it turns out in
the language of the Aymara that moulliterally means the tree of knowledge. That's
not actually a name of a place, it's an understanding of where knowledge originally

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came from. And the Japanese alsohad the same story as well, that
there's this place in the middle ofthe Pacific at one point from where all
our history came from, from wherethe builders came from. And they said
it's we call it mul and theyagain, it means the tree of knowledge.
So we started talking about the Muriaas a land actually as more a

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sort of a concept. There's aspiritual ideal or a place where the knowledge
came from from a very unusual groupof people who were kind of like us,
or to quote, people in thePacific, humanlike but not quite human.
So it seems that we were verycomfortable with these godlike people, but
they were just like us just abit taller. And here's the weirdest part.

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A lot of them were sort ofblonde and redheaded with green and blue
eyes, which sounds very Caucasian,except back then Caucasians really were a minority
and they lived around where today youfind the Armenian people. That's kind of
where they came from. Because Europewas pretty much under ice in the area
that we're talking about, not manypeople lived there. So that's what was

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interesting to find out that the worldwas a much more different place. And
I think that we've been so hungup on Atlantis and the Muria or mule
for such a long time that Ifigured that there was a chance to see
it from a different point of view. So when you're talking about these almost
human beings, this sounds very Anunakiesque in the sense of that every I

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mean, and I'm gonna say everyculture, but every major or even minor
culture has these stories of these kindof godlike beings who came and showed them
technology, brought civilization to them,brought them knowledge, kind of set things
up for them. And for myunderstanding, the Onunaki, I think it's

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Sumerian, if I'm not mistaken.Place Armenia. But is that super It
came from Armenia and they went downtowards the Mesopotamia and plans and created the
Sumerian culture. Right, So it'sit's pretty old, and it's in their
text. It's not like it's notI always find fascinating. People are like,
oh, it's just myths, it'sjust stories, And I'm like,

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you know how hard it was towrite back then. I can't. I
mean, I can't believe there's justa guy. I'm like, you know
what, I got this tale.I gotta tell it, man, and
let me just start chiseling, likethat's not the way things rare. So
here's a bunch of hunter gatherers whoare literally in the right incredible stories.
The two are incompatible. The twothat the logic is incompatible. Either you

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are smoking something weird and you alreadyknew about very picturesque language and you can
really use verbs, adjectives and pronounsreally well, or you are illiterate.
You can't have both. We'll beright back after a word from our sponsor
and now back to the show andsay, it's a very good point,

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and here's the thing about myth,and this is what historians just don't get
about it. Myth is a theatricaldevice in which to convey a piece of
storytelling so that the story is remembered. It's a bit like two thousand years
from now, we'll be talking aboutthe myth of Star Wars, okay exactly

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because and that's what Lucas was waschanneling in terms of keeping this idea of
live, of this wonderful story.Because if I just told you the story
of you know, this young kidwho goes gets in spaceship and goes rescuing
a princess on the other side ofthe galaxy, you go, oh,
that's really cool, and then youforget about it because there's so many other
films like it. But whyce she'stalking about the story of the redemption of

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Dapha Beata and the fact that itgoes from the light to the dark and
it's a personal introspective journey. Yougo, oh, you got my attention
now. And we were talking aboutit forever. And this is what they
don't understand. That myth was awonderful vehicle for maintaining these stories into perpetuity,
and that's why we're still talking aboutthem today. The hard part is
that the language is sometimes a littlebit so obtuse and so different from where

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we are today that you have tobe patient with the story. You have
to look at the allegory and themetaphor, and once you understand that,
then you can start, you know, understanding what these stories are all about.
So in ten thousand years, there'llbe a myth of an alien who
fell from the sky and because ofthe yellow sun, became super and started
running around the planet as a superhero. He had a cape on and he

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used to save people. And there'ssome archival footage that we found in a
cave somewhere on this thing called well, we don't know what it's called,
but it's like film. It's film, and we shined light through it and
we could see images of it becauseit was saved in a salt mine that
had been forgotten for ten thousand years. Now, that would be pretty cool.
You just shared the whole of history, are you? I mean?

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I mean, well, I meanI'm going to therapy right now, you
know. But people could argue thatit's like, oh, yeah, well,
these stories. But for us,it was a lot easier to write
a story than it was back then, and you're right. Back then,
those those myths, those stories were, as George Lucas said, the meat
and potatoes of the culture. Andthen they kept and it kept moving forward.

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So going back to the pre floodera, because there's so many I
mean, we've been told that humanityhas been around for six outs in maybe
eight thousand years. If you're reallygetting froggy, and we shall hunter gatherers.
This is what this is. Thisis the technical way of saying it,
Freddy. We were hunter gatherers.YadA, YadA, YadA. Egypt

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came YadA, YadA, YadA,the Greeks came YadA, YadA, YadA.
We're here, uh, And that'sbasically kind of what we like,
and we kind of ground on.The technology grew and that was it.
But the archaeological evidence is now shiningso much light that that is an incorrect
timeline, and mainstream academia just hasit's having just like every mainstream academia and

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every facet of humanity will have problemswith their own dogma, with their own
story that they've been from physics tomath to everything for all the time.
So now this concept of the youngerdryest that caused the Great flood that Atlantis
was around around that time. Nowthere's something called go Beekley which has been

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around, So I'd love to hearyour thoughts on the timeline that was created
or told to us at school.Also, the pyramids were built by slaves
carrying rocks up a sandhill. Iremember seeing that. I see that,
saw the images in my textbook ofthese poor slaves pushing up you know,
thirty forty fifty ton. Yeah,let's get rid of get rid of the

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ramch. Oh my god. Itwas amazing. So i'd love to hear
your thought of the timeline that we'vebeen given and based on your research,
what is a more accurate timeline basedon the stories that you've heard from the
indigenous and your research in general.That's a long question. Let's see.

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Well, it's funny because now,and you're right, academia takes forever to
reach the point where they're comftling changingthe story. You go back a hundred
years ago, they're still trashing eachother. When they come to an accepted
conclusion that this is how the worldwas. Then someone comes along and says,
actually this new evidence to show thatactually that's not the way it was.
They'll kill the guy and then fiftyyears they'll say, actually he was

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right, but we're going to takecredit for it. And we're getting the
same problem today as independent researchers.So there's nothing new. But the thing
is the technology is now catching upwith the myth. So if you look
at the Hope traditions of the lastthree Ice Sages, which are actually pretty
well recorded with the Hope myth.You look at the building text which are

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written all across the walls of theTemple of Edfu in Egypt. You look
at the Tamil culture and all thevaders, which basically go back fifteen thousand
years if you just pay attention tothe text and read the four thousand year
cycles that it took for each academyto write down that information. So once
you start compiling these things, youbegin to realize that the ancestors, they

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survived three cataclysms. And we knowthat there are three Ice ages, so
we got the young Driers, theyounger Dryers, and the older dryers.
So basically, when you start lookingat the description of how every single world
fell, and we're pretty good,we're pretty sure now that the beginning of
the younger drivers was definitely caused bymeteoric strikes because we found nanodiamonds spread all

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around the world, which is theonly way to get nanodiamonds is to have
a very high heat, very highimpact meteoric structure hit the earth. We
found the craters, We found theimpact sites all across from North Carolina all
the way to South Carolina. Somethere's over a thousand craters. And you
actually got the direction from where theactual meteorites came from. It's still there

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to this very day. On asunny day, flying over North Carolina,
you can practically see what they callthe Carolina Bays. So we know these
events happened. So once you startlooking at the fact that these stories were
written by people whose ancestors survived thesecataclysms, and you look at the information
that we're getting now from archaeology,history, climatology, oceanography and overlay them,

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now you begin to realize that,yes, there were three periods through
which the world changed very, verydifferently to what it looks like now.
And you add to that the factthat also when the Egyptians were telling Solon,
who basically was a Greek historian whohappened to be over in vacation in
Sais, and one of the priestssaid, you know your Greeks are too

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young. Way could you've been around as long as we have? And
we've seen the sun changed position inthe sky four times. We've seen it
rise where it now sets, andset where it now rises. And at
one point we experienced the earth beupside down, and I don't mean a
poll shift. Something big hit theearth and the earth actually flipped over.
So and of course he takes thatstory back to Greece, and within two

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generations some guy called Plato says,hey, that'll make a great idea for
a story. The thing is,the Egyptians gave him a specific date for
nine six hundred BC as the dayof the end of the last Ice Age
and the big cataclysm. You moveover to the Yucatan, which is full
of Egyptian language, by the way, and in fact, there's a several

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pictures at Ushmaal, and I believeit's Oshkintok. There's an Egyptian priest who's
visiting over from Egypt's got the headdressand everything, and they've got their story
in their particular history that says innine six hundred BC, and there's at
a very specific dates. We getthe arrival of these gods from a sinking

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islands in the middle of the Atlanticcalled Atol, so you get the Atol
antisk popping up and these sort ofpeople called the It's who are the magician
priests. They were very big onnames back then. It's all it was
very concise language. But they're theones who basically gave us quite so quatal
Cukokan and the Yitzamna, who's theone that gets left out. He's the

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most interesting of all of them.But they're escaping was essentially a drowning continent.
So the point of the matter isyou got the same date given by
the Maya, and on the otherside of the world you got the Egyptians
giving you exactly the same date.So you can't have made this up because
basically the two countries weren't technically supposedto be sharing information. So that yeah,

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I do believe that the story ismuch much more transparent now with the
overlaying of hard evidence as on topof mythical evidence. The two who begin
to coincide. How further back itgoes, no one really knows because if
you go to the Indian vaders,they start talking about things which go on
for four hundred thousand years. Nowyou've got a problem here because there's absolutely

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nothing left of evidence to back thatup, and you have to say,
perhaps it happened, because if we'retalking four hundred thousand BC and we're talking
cave people, they didn't have language. As far as we know, they
would never have been able to writesuch extraordinary things about Vimana cro are flying
through the sky to obliterate an entirecity and come back fatigued in the same

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day. It's just not feasible.These people would not have had the imagination.
And the only thing that makes senseis the people that were around form
the parallel civilization. And just asthe Ice Age comes to an end eleven
thousand years ago, their civilization isnow on the way and hunter gatherers are
under up. Now we'll be rightback after a word from our sponsor,

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and now back to the show.So this is what was happening from my
research, is that you know,this story of this missing civilization is missing
because it was already on its lastlegs by the time the story gets picked
up by our ancestors. They're alreadyon the way out, and we are
now the next civilization on the wayup, and they taught us all the

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accouterments of civilization. So that's aboutas far as I've got in terms of
twenty five years of research, justdigging around in strange languages and strange people
and looking at what the archaeologists haveto say about this, and linking the
two, and it's beginning to makesome sense. From my understanding. It
sounds very similar to what the YogiYuktashwa said in the Holy Science, which

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is about the Yuga cycles, whichis this twenty I think it's twenty four
thousand year cycles or twenty six thousand. It's twenty six if I'm not mistaken
right, And you start off basicallyenlightened, as as humanity's consciousness is enlightened,
then we start to go downward,downward, downward, till we hit

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the lowest point, which he arguedwas the dark ages, and then from
there we start to come back up. So we are currently in an upward
swing. Hence the technology growing asfast as I mean, isn't it amazing
when the last hundred years, howmuch we have more technology in the last
hundred years than we did in thelast one hundred thousan years according to exactly

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the timeline. That's pretty insane.I mean, yeah, Terrence McKenna picked
up on that back in the eightiesabout the sudden jump to a new level
of order happening almost by the month, and he predicted that forty years ago,
so he's not far off. Imean, we are getting new new
evidence of new information and new ideascoming up almost instantaneously. You can't keep

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up with this stuff, no,you can't. And like with AI alone,
what AI is doing is is justlike every day, every other day,
something new is coming. I mean, it's just moving so fast from
when the Internet showed up in amass way to where we are now.
I mean that was the late nineties, so we're looking at twenty five thirty

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years maybe of like Syria, becauseI remember when the Internet showed up and
I started using it with the AOLdiscs and you know all that stuff back
in the day, so you getyour free way to get on the internet.
That it's been thirty years, that'snothing and imagined an AI representation of
the real friendly Silver By the way, he's actually gone shopping. It's so

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real. I'm actually I'm actually inthe French river ERAa as we speak right
now. We laugh, but welaugh. That will happen. That is
happening. We're getting to that,we'll get to that place probably within the
next ten to fifteen years, thatthe technology will get that good. But
it's it's really remarkable how quickly thingshave changed. And I also think i'd

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love to hear your thoughts, isthat historians always look at at the past
through the lens of the technology wehave today. So they say, well,
if they didn't have cell phones andthey didn't have the Internet, they
must have been primitive, but they'dnever taken into account. And I'd love
to hear what you've come across thetechnologies that they in the past, our

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ancestors might have had that were farbeyond what we have, but in a
different way. Under better understanding ofmagnetism, a better understanding of gravitation,
the force of gravity, the understandthe understanding of how to really hone the
the Earth in a way that isworking with the earth and not raping the

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earth as we do today. AndI had a conversation the other day with
I forgot his name. He's thethe archaeologist or researcher who came up with
the concept of the Giza Pyramid asa power station, and Christopher done,
yes, thank you. So Ihad Christopher on the show and I'm speaking
to him, and in that conversationwe're talking, I'm like, isn't it

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an amazing that we are technology seemsto be growing, but we are still
literally burning coal for the electricity thatis needed to run the technology. So
all the technology is moving at thespeed of light, but the energy creation
is barbaric. I mean, we'restill talking about late eighth we're burning.

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We're burning wood essentially, just ahigher level of wood. So it's pretty
miraculous what's going on. But I'dlove to hear your thoughts about that.
It's all relative, though, isn'tit. I Mean, in the old
days, the thing I kept hearingagain and again was that the gods were
different from humans and so far asthey had complete control and understanding of the
laws of nature, and that's whatmade them a god. It's not some

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invisible force sitting on a throne somewhere. A god is a real person who
says, hey, I want tounderstand everything there is to know about water.
Water is very interesting. I wantto know what happens when it freezes,
when it boils. The difference betweenthe two and how we can actually
we can do with that element atboth ends of the scale. The moment
you understand how water works in allits ways and forms, you become a

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god. Because a god is nothingmore than a spiritual sort of element that
surrounds any objects. It's the soulof any object. So a plant has
a god, a tree has agod, and so forth, we call
it a soul. So that's whatthe difference was. They had complete understanding
the laws of nature, so forthem from you when you hear three different
people on the opposite side of theworld saying, yeah, that building over

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there with the big stones, yeah, that was built overnight, and they
used sounds or vocal commands to movethe stones through the air, and that
literally the stones were pushed by alittle kid up to the top of the
hill. And once you think that'sa funny story, twice you think that's
a coincidence. The third time youhear it from someone else, you think,

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Okay, now we're talking about anactual event that was witnessed, and
it was written down because It wasso incredible to people who probably were hunter
gatherers, and they'd think, wow, look at that. I was just
sitting here eating a rabbit the otherday, and today there's an entire pyramid
there. That's incredible. I'm goingto remember this, make sure that everywhere
knows how it was built. Nowyou fast forward this in the nineteen eighties

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Princeton Engineering nominally's research departments, whodid some incredible experiments, peer reviewed experiments,
looking yet that lovely fine line betweenscience and mysticism. And they said,
they asked the same question that Idid, was, well, why
do they choose those enormous rocks tobegin with? Why not use manageable sizes
of rock like the Romans did?No, we're going to do a two

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thousand pounds block of stone which nocrane on Earth can lift? Why because
they could? So what is thebig thing about this rock? And I
said, Well, the thing aboutthe rocks is they used to get moved
sometimes from four hundred miles away.There rock where they could have built a
pyramid, but they didn't. Theywent four hundred miles away to get another

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kind of rock. So what isit about this rock and all the other
rocks to used to build a megalistsaround the world that are different that they
had to go for this laborious processin which to do well. It turns
out it's the type of quartz.It's the same type of quartz that was
used for early radio receivers. Sothere's something about there to electric quality of

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this type of quartz in these stones. And then you got the iron and
the magnetites. That's the three elementsthat are very common to all the stones
in all the mecha lifts around theworld. So Princeton basically said, well,
let's find a chunk of this particulartype of crystal, will put it

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in the tube, and let's dolike the ancestors did, let's throw sound
at it. And they experimented weekafter week. They will change the amplitude
and the frequency of sound because you'regoing to get the two absolutely right.
And there was there's one moment andneeds to be on their website back in
the nineties where they had a videoback in the days when they had filmed.

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We talked about this before we wenton there, and it shows quite
clearly that they're hitting this thing,this little lump of crystal with sound and
it gets Levitt. So now weknow that the stories were true. We
just now discovered that technology. Andconversely, yeah, we may have lots
of technology around today, but Ialso noticed there's a huge rising stupidity.

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We have become morons because we've givenall our power. And I'm looking at
this little thing next to me,this little black rectangle, about this big
which I have to carry around withme, despite the fact that I had
a perfectly useful landline, but peopleare insisting that I have myself over me
all times of the day. Idon't know why, because I won't pick

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it up anyway. If it bringsit can't be a reach, I can't
be reached, and I refuse tobe dominated by it. So the thing
is, I was watching with sortof well, I don't want to make
fun of this, because when you'rein a hurricane, it's not funny.
But when the hurricane was going forNew Jersey a few years ago, I

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was watching with a bit of slightsort of detachments how the local people could
not figure out where to go getfresh water, milk, and some bread
because they were so rely on thatlittle box to tell them that the seven
eleven is two blocks of where theirmemory has been completely raised, whereas you

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know me, which I don't usemyself. And for that reason, I
know that when the lights go outhere in Portland, Maine, which is
quite regularly when we have bigger winterstorms, and people the whole town disappears
to their second homes in the countryside, which is kind of ironic because they
haven't got power there. We'll beright back after a word from our sponsor,

(30:30):
and now back to the show.I'm the only person here that has
candles burning in their living room.I have matches, I have fresh water.
I have things that I can eatin a can which don't need to
be heated up, and I cansurvive for a whole week without trying that
hard. And I know where toget milk, and I know where to

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get bread from because I memorized it. So yeah, we might have all
this brand new technology, but Ifind so many people have become dominated by
it. They've given their power away, so in a sense, and I
think I can't remember who. Ialso came up with this observation. We're
having a problem with names today,aren't we. Anyway, it was a
very interesting character and he said,you know, it's funny because next time

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we get a meteorite hitting the Earthor all the power goes out, which
is not really that difficult. Allhe needed the sun spot cycle to hit
the right portion of the planet.Like I happened in the Eastern Seaboard in
Canada back in eighteen seventy eight,the Charcter event knocked out telegraph wires for
a whole two weeks. People suddenlydidn't know how to survive because there's no

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electricity to keep their homes light andyou can't like the stoves. And I
said, you know, it's funnybecause at that moment, the people that
we call savagers living in the middleof the Amazon would be the only survivors
on this planet because then there wereto fish, then they had to set
traps, then they had to collectrainwater, and that's the point. Suddenly
they're at the highest level of civilization, but they don't have the technology,

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no, but they have their localtechnology. So it's so relative, you
see, in terms of age andposition. Yeah, and you're absolutely right,
because you know, I was tellingChristopher this as well. Our our
system is so fragile. People arenot aware how our system is so fragile,
where those quote unquote savages in theAmazon systems is extremely robust. Absolutely,

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hand could handled so much. Weare the ones who are so fragile
in the sense of I mean,look, I've gone through many hurricanes.
I lived in Florida for a longtime. I lived in La went through
earthquakes. Now Here in Austin,we go through power outa just because of
freezes and things like that. Youknow, it just found I remember looking

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around my house. I was like, this is au other than just keeping
snow off of me, It's becomeuseless to me without power. It's like
an empty box that does nothing.It's it was basically turned into an eye
box. And I was like,wow, this is fascinating. So if
that would happen, if a cataclysmlike you know, like the movie The

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Day After Orya, the Day afterTomorrow or something like that, where there's
a cataclysm of all the technology gone, all the power is gone, if
that would wipe out the planet orwipe out moderne modern civilizations, these tribes
will be the top of the foodchain again. Absolutely, and you or

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me, we'll crawl down from whereverwe survived from walk into one of these
tribes and go, guys, Igot some stuff to talk to you about,
and you and I would try toremember as much as we could about
the technology that would be of benefitto us there. And we would then
sit around the campfire and tell storiesof this little black box they used to

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have all the information in the world. This is not a as a as
a filmmaker, as a storyteller,that story plot is not that outlandish.
It's happened before. Arguably it couldhappen again. I hope we're we're on
the upwards, upward, ahead ofthat Hugo cycle. So I'm hoping that
we hold for a few more years, you know, a few more one

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hundred years would be great. Ihaven't heard about Comet four seven six.
Yeah, Jupiter will take care ofthat first, don't worry. But I
know, good old Jupiter, isn'tit Comet? Oh thank you Jupiter.
But this, but it is true. We have the biggest achilles Heel ever
in the history of humanity, wherethe electricity goes out and suddenly millions of

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people, billions of people will notknow what to do. Uh. And
and here's the worst part I've justthought about this. Electric cars are now
on the rise the electric car.Now you can't get away from all the
zombies who are coming over to takeyour canned fish that's sitting in your larder,
assuming, of course you forgot toget a can open that, because

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without that you can't eat the fish. So no, I think we are
literally heading into a cul de sac, and that this is the funny thing.
And to bring it back to ancientcivilizations, there's an interesting paradox here.
When I was finishing the last sectionof The Missing Lands, I also
hit a bit of a wall wherethings are getting a little bit dark,

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and I don't do dark. Ilike to leave my readers with something to
hope for, something that they cangrasp and get say, hey, you
know what, we're actually in controlif we want to be. And I
was remember sitting not far from abeach in New Zealand struggling with this scenario
of how to close a book.I'm thinking, you know, it's kind
of funny and ironic that twelve thousandyears ago, just as the Ice Age

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closes, we have the gods saying, hey, we've got meteorites coming this
way, and we have a planet'sbeing overrun by told by giants covered with
red hair that are eating humans forfun and teaching humans similarly stupid things.
And there's a wonderful moment if youlook at the original Book of Enoch,
which by the way, is nothis real name. His real name is

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Emmed Urnu. So the writer ofthe Book of Enock is one of the
Unnaki, one of the nice people. You don't get to hear the word
nice and mark in the same sentencevery often. I'm going to put it
there because I actually believe, havingread the original text that actually there.
Without them, we wouldn't be havingthis conversation right now. They're actually since
we're not on the national radio.They said, our ass from extinction,

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and they said, you know whatthe it's the redheaded giants, the bastard
offspring of the Nephilim, which arethe children of o Ryan that are running
over the entire planet, which toldthem not to mate with human women.
It would not work. There's twoDNAs that work here, and essentially they
gave birth to these crazy people whowere breeding like rabbits and humans were disappearing

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from the food chain literally. Andthere's this wonderful, agonizing moment when I'm
reading the story I'm going to flyin the room and they say, you
know, we're going to have towipe out the earth. We're going to
have to make sure that those rockspassing through the sky in two hundred years
are going to hit the earth aspecific points, wipe out everything. Some
of us are going to stay behindto help the survive that humans rebuild their

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lives. And that's where suddenly humansafter the flood, we discovered civilization in
different parts of the world at thesame moment, and at the same moment,
we had the stories of the godswho also helped us out. So
all of these are connected, thepoint being that we're now facing exactly the

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same situation. I've had many conversationswith people at NASA, and you know
who they are because they shop atUFO conferences dressed in monks habits with these
reptilian masks made of rubber. It'sso funny, Genie. It's like,
and we're having there's just someone toa photograph of us having a conversation at

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a UFO conference. It looks likea non everyday interaction where I'm looking very
serious, like I'm really and Iam listening to what they're saying, but
you have two reptiles talking to meand doing this with their hands, and
they're talking about hyperdimensional physics. Butit looks so ordinary. The whole photograph
and the whole point of the conversationwas we love hearing about these stories that

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you write about because our ancestors aretelling us that exactly we are now one
half cycle from where the last catastrophehre. Okay, so we've spoken about
this before. It's a twenty sixthousand year cycle. We're on the half
cycle. We're facing the same endof civilization scenario because between twenty thirty two

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and twenty thirty eight, and that'sjust saying there's a one to ten chunk
that we are going to be hitby the same chunks of rock that came
around twelve thousand years ago. Becauseit's a loop goes around in a very
very long loop, and it crossesthe Solar system, and we call it
the to Meet Your Shower. Ithappens every November. And I was having

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a chat with Robert Shock about this, the geologist who's also very big on
solar cycles, and he said,you know, it's funny. We've had
thirteen near end of scenario situations sincethe Great Flood, most of them to
do with solar flares, but occasionallythere's also there's big chunks called the Tory
meet your shower, and the Earthjust happens to be in the wrong place
at the wrong time every November,and the big chunks are coming around again.

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Now we've evolved or devolved, dependingon a point of view, into
these technological beasts. We have lighting, we have the cell phones, we
have the computer and electric cars,and we're ever so clever. But now
we're at the point we're facing thesame extension scenario, and I'm wondering there
there's a lesson here, which iswhat the Yugas are really big on about.

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Lessons about the end of cycles andthe fact that we go for these
things for very very good reason.There will always be survivors, will always
be on an ever ascending spiral.This is nothing new. We'll be right
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And I just think that we're atthis point in time where we are faced
with the same problem, and thistime I think that we have the means
to get ourselves out of it.And I think that's going to be the
big lesson here. We're not goingto rely on the gods or the little
green man to get us out ofthis. We're going to rely on us
this time to use our technology tofigure out how to avoid those big chunks.

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And I was struggling with us onthis beach in New Zealand, as
one does on a beach in NewZealand with big stories, and I said,
you know, we've done so manyexperiments with intention. We have the
ability now to map intention and theuse of intention to accommodate and change the
behavior of machines. And again PrincetonAnomali's research department was big on this.

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They actually had another peer review experimentwhere there's a group of twenty people in
the room who were able to changethe computerized drum beat just by thinking and
putting the idea to the machine andthey forced the machine to change. That
is huge that we can interact withsomething that's invisible, but it's now measurable

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with a machine. If we cando that, and then if you take
that to the next logical step,which is the transcendental meditation movement, which
on occasion comes to America. Theyshow up in Chicago and that sort of
West Chicago, Central Washington and othernefarious places which have the worst crime rate

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in the summer. So again,a small group of monks, a focused
intent will change the crime rate,and they did. These are peer reviewed
experiments. Well, mathematician gets involvedand says, it's funny, you only
need one percent of the local populationthinking of the same thing. In other
words, a controlled initiate, acontrolled intent experiment to alter the outcome of

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your local environment. Which means ifwe're faced with mutual destruction from big rocks
and we're waiting for the gods tocome and bail us out, and they're
not going to but there's part ofour evolution to figure things out for ourselves.
It only takes one percent of thepopulation of the earth to move those
rocks away this time. So twelvethousand years ago, the rocks are being
drawn to us. Now we're goingto have a chance of movement away.

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I'm not saying this is the what'sgoing to happen. This is a potential
scenario that's upon us right now.We have time to think about this.
And the Maya also talked about this, because they've said everybody's focused on twenty
twelve at the end of the world, and they roll their eyeballs. I
said, no, that was themidpoint. No one's read the story properly.
There's a sixty year window when weare given the opportunity to assess where

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we are, look around and go, ah, big changes are coming.
The midpoint is twenty twelve. Afterthat, the next thirty years, the
window starts closing and things get muchmore dramatic. If changes will be upon
you, society will go black andwhite. There'll be very discrepancy between you
know, people having a great areaargument. We're very much focused on opposites

(43:15):
right now, in terms of politics, in terms of anything. It's hard
to have a discussion with anybody thesedays. And that fits in beautifully with
the end of the their cycle,which is twenty forty two, conveniently four
years after this event has taken place. So since they're very predicted there's gonna
be another cycle after this. Ithink we'll do just fine. But we

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do like to take it right upto the last minutes. You know,
humans are very good about going rightto the edge and going I think I'll
have another hand sandwich before the meteoritesstrikes. I think I'll just have half
the sandwich and I'll get this donewith. That's what I was working on
when I was coming up with thissort of what's going on in terms of
the big picture. And again I'mnot saying that's what's going to happen,

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but that's a likely scenario and thereis a potential for a very happy ending.
You mentioned something in regards to thegiants, and that is something I
haven't really heard or done a lotof research on the giants that apparently walk
the Earth at a certain point,and you know it's in lore and in
myth. But i'd love to hearyour thoughts of what you came across with

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these giants, these redheaded giants,because I've heard things about it with atlantis.
I've heard of hybrid hybrid children.I've heard of a bunch of different
things in my travels. I'd loveto hear what you came across. They're
in every culture on the planet,and again, Pacific is full of these

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stories. By the way, youwouldn't think of the Pacific being a hot
spot of a hotbed of giant lawand ancient civilization law, because there's no
it was hardly any land left,But that's the point. One Russian physicist
said, at the end of theIce Age, Pacific lost more land than
anywhere else on the planet. Everythingelse was affected, but the Pacific got

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it worse than anything else. Thefirst European to finally show up in the
Pacific and the sixteenth century is aPortuguese navigator called piut Cators. And I
can say that because I am Portuguese, so I'm very proud of that guy.
They're going around collecting recipes around theworld before they also became idiots that
colonized everything. It happens to everybody. And they said, it's funny every

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time we meet the Pacific islanders,they're very adamant that these are not islands.
These are the summits of the mountainswhere the ancestors used to live,
and the land mass is now underthe ocean. Once you say that,
you pay attention. So I've beencollecting stories around the Pacific rim and they
said again and again that back inthe day, the gods were much taller

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than us. There were light skins, not white people. There were light
skins, they had blonde or reddishhair, And to this very day there's
a lot of women Polynesia that willstill coat their hair with an orange color
to make them look like the godsjust the ceremony, or to bring back
a storytelling technique. And they saidthat these people were different to us.

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They were human like, but notquite human. They found it very difficult
to breed with us because of theobvious size difference, because their genetics were
slightly difference. Sometimes it worked,sometimes it didn't, but they were very
much taller than us. And inone of the temples in Egypt they actually
give you a specific height. Theywere called the Aha. That was the

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nickname, which comes from Aku.It means a shining one. And the
idea was that there were five cubitstall. Now, if you use the
royal cubit as your base measurement,that's eight and a half feet tall.
And that's pretty consistent with the skeletonsthat were found in the place where I
spent most of my life and obviouslywhere my accent comes from, which is

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Great Britain. Their giants gray iseverywhere. I've met plenty of archaeologists who
have given up being archaeologists because theygot tired of watching the evidence being destroyed.
They couldn't account for it, sothey were told to destroy the bones
and grind them into dust. Samething with the Maori. I just came
back from New Zealand listening to thestories by the Maori, and they're saying,

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yeah, that hill over there iscalled Mount Kaiori and it means the
mountain of the Redheaed Giants. Andin eighteen fifty they were still living up
there, and we just left themalone the end of a very proud people.
They just couldn't breathe with anybody,so we just left them be.
They didn't pose any harm to anybody. It's kind of sad because they knew
they were on their way out.And I heard exactly the same story in

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Appalachia with a Cherokee that said,yeah, that river called the Allegheny,
it's named for the Alawani. It'sa corruption of the word Alowani. And
that was the name of the tallRedheaed giants about eight and a half feet
all that were in Appalachia when wecame across them moving across America, and
they had survived as sinking continent inthe middle of the Atlantic Ocean. And

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again they found it difficult to breedwith women. They tried and their women
died during childbirth because they gave birthto infants. So the stories of these
people are everywhere. But here's thething to really re understand. These are
the original people that were called thegods. The offspring were the problem.
So that's where we get into thestory again of Enoch or Emu. I

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want to get that name across sothat more people say that rather than Enoch,
because so many of these studies getbastardized by different culture. So he
is writing about what was taking placeamong the lords of Anu and the watchers,
who basically were the intermediaries between thelords of Anu and human beings because
they didn't want to hang out withhumans. They were recognized that new more

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than hunter gathererers, so they figured, because we are much more developed than
they, we really should keep safedistance from them because they have to develop
on their own. Otherwise the meetingof two very disparate cultures never ends.
Well. I mean, look atwhat we do when we go to the
middle of New Guinea. We bumpinto people that are still running around with

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our clothes. Next thing you know, they've got clothes and there's a hierarchy.
We've completely changed the course of theirdirection. Artificially. Okay, people
need to grow organically, that's theway to do it. But sometimes you
need a little bit of a helpinghands. So the lords of Anu would
say, look, Watchers, godown to the plains and tell so and
so over there that if he meetsa match of the two strands of wheat

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together, he can actually get akind of grain that's actually edible, and
you crush it between two stones,you can make flour and make red with
it, and then come back tothe top of the hill. And that
was what was going on for along long time. They would only hang
out with us whenever they really reallyhad to. But there was for reasons
we don't know because the book isincomplete. There was one small group of

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Watches to always get the story.They always get the attention. We'll be
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One small group of the Watchers thatthis time to hang out with human
women, and they gave birth tothe Nephila, the children of Orion,

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and that's where the problem begins.You see, these people were not well
adjusted, and then they had anotherseries of offspring. They're the real problem.
So these are the really big tallpeople beyond eight and a half feet
tall. They were still living inthe Solomon Islands in the Second World War
because the service people from the Americanmilitary bumped into them and they said,

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we don't sleep with a revolver underour pillow because of the Japanese. It's
because of the giants were covered withredhead. It looked like yetti or you
know some what do you call itbigfoot sasquatch sasquatch, which is probably what
it is. Actually when you seethem, you go, aha, I
am sleeping with a revolver at night. Not because we were threatened by them.

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They obviously wanted to keep their distance, and they hang up in the
mountains and sometimes they'll be very helpful. One of our jeeps would fall or
would run over the side of aroad, and then we'd come back down
the hill. We'd get a truckto bring the cheap back up from the
ditch, and someone had taken thejeep out of the ditch, put it
back on the road, pointing downhillas it to say, can you just

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go back to where you came fromand leave us alone. So they were
very respectful and we respected them,but still when you see a guy that's
ten feet tall, tubbed with redhair, you don't take any risks.
So again, you see this allaround the world. There was two,
so there's actually three things going onhere. You have human hunter gatherers.
You have this parallel civilization of verytall gods with light skin and red hair

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and blonde hair. And then youhave this hybrids of human and godly like
people who their DNA just did notgo down very well and they were completely
crazy, and they're the problem inall these stories. They're the ones who
really were not the best friends ofhumanity. But again they get all the
attention, which is a bit sadbecause it kind of kind of squeezes the

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story and what it's trying to sellus. That's amazing, that's well,
thank you for enlightening me on giants, because I've heard of them. I
just really never did dug deep intothem before. Now I know right to
West Virginia. The secret to allthis is in West Virginia. And my
American friends think I'm smoking something weirdwhen I say that Virginia is one of

(52:37):
the most interesting parts of the country, and they'll look at me like West
Virginia. I said, yeah,go look at the mounds or the Giant
mounds and the things that the Cherokeepreserved up there. There's a lot of
history out there. That's where youfind out about the real continental at least
the eastern Sea borders the United States. The history is right there. Well,

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while you're traveling. You've also talkeda lot about monoliths, and I
am fascinated with monoliths. I've seena handful of myself in my life,
and I always find I find themfascinating. But what I've discovered more and
more is the the pyramids that justseem to be popping up everywhere and meaning
that we were taught. Uh,there's a great pyramid in Gyptian pyramids,

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the one that has all that theyget all the press. Then they're the
South American pyramids. Okay, theyget a little something. Then within the
last few years, like last thirtyor forty years, in the grand scheme
of things, India, I thinkthat India has a couple and then,
but now it's like Japan, India, throughout the Middle East, China has

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more pyramids than any other place inthe planet. Apparently, like there's so
there's so many pyramids and so manyof these monolists. They all seem to
be in the twenty ninth parallel closeto the twenty ninth parallel to my understanding
as well, how are these allconnected and how because it sounds like there
was communication across the pond with theEgyptian and Mayan because I always said that,

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I was like, how, Imean, yeah, they're not exactly
the same pyramids, but they're prettyI sat and I stood in front of
Chitchnitza and I sat there. I'mlike, what is happening right now?
Are you kidding me? Like?This is the pyramid like hunter gatherers did
this. No, I can't seeit. I spoke to an archaeologist,

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a more traditional archaeologist, the otherday and he's like, well, you
know, because I asked him thatquestion, like how is it that they're
also similar around the world, Like, well, you know, it's kind
of like you put a bunch ofmonkeys in the room together, they're eventually
going to figure out that the pyramidis the strongest, more stable force.
So, uh, that's just differentversions of that. I was like,

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hmm, didn't sound very interested,but okay, fair, fair enough,
fair enough, that's your point ofview. He was a much more traditional
academic. But I love to hearhow you thought how these are all connected
and how the information came across toeach other. I mean, because there's
just thousands of pyramids around the world. Yeah, I mean the position is

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actually very important because it shows youthat once upon a time, there was
a time where the climate was suchthat you could not live on most of
the Earth, and that was theSecond Ice Age. So yeah, most
of the northern hemispheres covered with ice, the bottom hemispheres covered with ice.
There's that little band where we gotthe world's all the sacred sites within that

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thin band, and that compresses thetime period pretty quickly. And that was
the time period that all the ancientcultures say that. Yeah, there was
basically a parallel civilization here. Theylived on islands or places that behaved like
islands, and they kept themselves tothemselves, but they shared information. They
were part of the same college,if you'd like, They read from the

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same book, and that makes alot more sense. And in fact,
there's one great story that I getfrom New Zealand from the Waiaha. Not
ever heard of the Whiterha they're oneof the oldest people on the planet.
They lived in Easter Islands when theywere an archipelago, and they they remember
it being an archipelago. That's twelvethousand years ago. Unless you're an oceanographer,

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you will not know that only twelvethousand years ago was Easter Island a
series of islands. So they've gotthe time when they're actually interacting with the
gods, and the gods are takingthese double half canoes called Walkers, enormous
things. I mean you could puttwo hundred people on them, and the
Simones are still building them today.And they go from their original homeland which

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is on Lake Titi Kaka. Theygo to Easter Island to refuel, hang
out with the Waiaha, and thenthey'd sail to the birthplace of the gods,
which is in the South Island ofNew Zealand. And I've been there
and it's the most incredible landscape templarylever see that's from another story. And
they also used to go all theway across the Pacific and the Indian Ocean

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because these gods, which they callthe Urukeu, which the redhead people,
they also had the same mannerisms anddescriptions as the Egyptian Followers of Horace,
the Shining Ones Follows of Horace,who have the same description of mannerism as
Vida Kosha and his hi Iowa Pante. So it's the same crowd by the

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but they've been called different names aroundthe world. And that's the one thing
that connects to these stories. Theywere all boring from the same manual.
Now they're very ations on the theme. Because the one thing that many people
don't know is that when you're lookingat a pyramid like Chichinitsa, you're looking
at four different pyramids. Because thepyramid keeps growing, it starts off.
And this is the thing I likeabout the Maya. They've built these enormous

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structures over enormous holes on the groundcalled senats. Those are the holes made
by the meteorites that basically killed offthe dinosaurs because all the rivers in Yucatan
are on the ground, which iswonderful because they're in a place where it's
so hot, the water doesn't dryup and always perfectly filtered through limestone.
You can drink the water out ofany sonoti. And so they got these

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big holes and they put a pyramidover the hole, and basically it's a
very ceremonial place. So you basicallyin order to get into the pyramid,
there's no exterior door per se.You have to travel by a sort of
a canoe underground through a river andgo into the belly of the earth Mother
and then go through an umbilical cordinto the central cortex of the pyramid and

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do your work in there. Newappier at the top and the platform the
stairs for going down, not forgoing up. And I've heard this from
a lot of a lot of themind elders who know a lot more about
this than I do, and theysaid, yeah, basically, if you
think about it, you've got theearth Mother, the middle world, which
is the internal chamber, and you'vegot the phallus, so masculine and the
feminine, and you are the middlebetween the two. So the places of

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initiation, integration of learning, anddepending on the shape and the position,
they fulfill other functions as well.Part of the technology used to do with
an earth acupuncture. All of thesebuildings are placed exactly where you don't want
to build a big building, whichis a fracture zone or a place where

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earthquakes happen to happen with intense regularity. So excuse me. Along the Nile,
which is a massive fraction the Earth'szone, you have some of the
biggest buildings on the entire planet,and you think, are these people completely
mad? No, because the waythat the buildings are built using different forms
of geology, and Chris Dunn,I think brought this up originally. You

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have the masculine or positively charged granitein the center, and you have the
negative limestone of the front that's basicallya battery, And the same thing happens
for the monoliths around the world.They are placed exactly the biggest concentrations of
monoliths appear in the world's biggest earthquakezones. So it's telling you that there's
something about these buildings that are notjust for you and me to go and

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work in and get some personal workdone. They're fulfilling a kind of an
earth acupuncture as well. They're kindof limiting the damage that the Earth can
do to itself and also to us. And I've heard this in Easter Island
as well. The original moi,which are the basalt ones. These are
the ones that have a body attachedto the head and they go thirty nine

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feet deeper into the ground that wethought they did. Well, Yeah,
the level of sediments is much olderthan eight hundred years. Even someone who
does basic geology can understand that.Will be right back after a word from
our sponsor, and now back tothe show. And I've spoken to Robert

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Shock about this, and he completelyagrees with this, and that the story
overlaps beautifully with the story of theWhiter her When they live there, they
talk about the moai, not asin we went chock chop chop chalk into
the quarry, we took it upthe hill would place them. The story
is already the now why in thestory, already around the time of the
ice age. For them, it'slike as a matter of facts, so

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they already precede these people. They'vebeen there for so long. But they
said that they were put there,the original Moai were put there to stop
in that quote, stopped the lordof earthquakes in his lair. So there
was something about an acupuncture that wasgoing on in Easter Island to basically make
the whole thing much more manageable,to give people a chance to survive big

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earthquakes, and when you look atthe amount of metal inside the stone like
besalt, that begins to make alot of sense. So these buildings,
again, they come from the samebook, they come from the same manual.
They are fulfilling a multitude of functions, and they're basically designed by the
same brother and system of the peoplewho taught us the accouterments of civilization.

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Let me ask you this because thisis another area of this of ancient civilizations
that is now starting to be gaineda little steam. Antarctica. A lot
of people think it's just it wasjust big big pile of ice, which
is not. It is an actualcontinent and actual land mass. What have

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you learned in your travels about whatAntarctica was, because it wasn't always under
ice, just like Geezer wasn't alwaysa desert that was actually very florid,
Like it's the beginning of the AtlanticOcean right there. I mean, so,
but I'd love to hear what you'vecome across as far as ancient or

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pre flood civilizations in Antarctica for anything, It wouldn't surprise me. I mean,
I'm kind of on the I'm lookingfrom the outside in right now,
because we have no evidence to backanything up right now, it's all hypotheses.
But that's where you start any greatidea. And we know from ancient
maps that were designed at a timewhen we did not have them mapping technology

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or the navigational ability to know whereAntarctica was or even go there if we
had. So there are maps showingup all over Europe that show Antarctica's two
land masses, and that's exactly whatit is to know that. I think
it took NASA until what nineteen seventyfive to have a satellite up there and
go, hey, let's find outwhat's under the ice. Said, oh,

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it's too continent separated by a river. Well that's what the map of
I think it as FINEUS show thePersy map or oh god, yeah,
I know the map one is finderthe FINEUS map, and basically it shows
the whole of Antarctica beautifully mapped outas two land masses. Now we know

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in only four thousand years ago thatthe Ross ice Shelf was actually not frozen.
It was a running sea, andthere were rivers everywhere. They found
sediments coming from a river and alsobits of trees that were still perfectly preserved.
In the ice four thousand years,the Royce's ice shelf has actually developed
itself, so it's always evolving,always moving. Then you got plate tectonics,

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and the planet is always shifting.Queen maud Landge is that big fingerlike
thing that stretches pointing up at Chileand Argentina. That used to be exactly
where Santiago was where Santiago is today, So that's moved what six hundred miles
further south. Everything's always moving andshifting over a lot of contents, so

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it would not surprise me that atsome point someone was down there. I
mean, I've had only stories aboutthe food fighters and the fact that Nazis
went down there, and I've hadsome I'm not discrediting it. I'm just
saying that it's kind of fanciful whenyou think that, for example, a
whole bunch of Nazis survived under theice at minus thirty degrees for sixty years,

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creating this technology to go work.Well, they can't go anywhere.
They'll get bond out of existence atthe moment they picked their heads. And
secondly, how are you going tokeep warm? Oh, because of the
magma under the ice, Well,isn't the magma going to melt the ice
on top of it? So Idon't really subscribe to that theory. Maybe
they went there, but I don'tthink they survived very well. And there's

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also the other talk of pyramids there. Yeah, it looks very pyramidal.
There's some images which are very diffinitive. You see the edges and everything.
Until you go there, you won'tknow. And I'll tell you why,
because I had the same thing inNew Zealand too. Of all places,
there was a beach I really wantedto go to. There's a place it's
an Albatross colony, which is rarein itself, and it was a place

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where the Whitehat had the settlements.So for those reasons, I wanted to
go there. And I was justlooking on Google Earth about tracks and public
access, and there's two pyramids,black pyramids right next to the beach,
huge things, And I thought,I can't be the first person's surely locals
know about these pyramids, but whyhas no one done any research on them?

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Well, now I'm really curious.So I went down there and had
a lovely walk, and you're walkingdown this wonderful path and they look beautifully
just like two Egyptian pyramids made ofbasalt. I mean, they're perfectly black,
the outlines are absolutely perfect, andyou're walking for about two miles,
that's how big they are, andyou think this is going to be interesting,

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and as you get closer you realizethat this is a natural formation.
You can see the basalt columns,the octagonal basilt columns, and then here's
a crystal cave in the middle.Essentially, nature sometimes does things very geometrically
and purposely, and as you getcloser you can see that the whole thing
is a natural extrusion of basalt fromthe ocean. When this extrusion was under

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the ocean and it cooled very rapidly. But the further way you get from
it, the better it looks likeit's actually a too man made pyramids.
So until you get there, untilyou get to Antarctica and do the research,
you just don't know. But Iwould not be surprised if their people
would have lived there at some point, given the fact that everything moves in
shapes all the time, from anyof the indigenous people were there any I

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don't even I don't even know ifany myths that I know of that are
from people from Antarctica. It's justit's that far back that I just never
even heard it before. Yeah,the closest people are the people that tribe
in Tierra del Fuego in Chile.I don't know what they're called, and
they have stories of redhead giants downthere, so we know that they're definitely

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existed and that little tip of theplanet. So who knows, maybe the
giants had a secret base in Antarctica. But no, you're right, you
never get to hear about anything.I've tried. I've looked into into the
all the documents that were written bythe Europeans who actually it was the the

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Jesuits when they were going through Polynesiaand literally just wiping everybody out. But
before they did, they were verynice. They wrote down all the story
of the indigenous people. So Ilike reading their notebooks, which Google thankfully
has actually scanned for us, sowe can actually read these things. And
if your Portuguese and your Spanish ispretty good, they're pretty easy to read.

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And I can't find anything in thereeither, not even need Francis Indonesia,
South Africa I thought might have someinformation. I read the work of
Credon Mutwa, who's written everything aboutmythology in that part of the world,
and again nothing. So it's amystery. It's a very interesting mystery,
Freddie. I can keep talking toyou for about six or seven hours.

(01:08:36):
My jet lag is calling exactly.I mean it. We definitely have to
have you back because we have scratchedthe surface a bun of much, a
bunch of other things I wanted totalk to you about before we Oh no,
it's no, it's like it's well, it's it's a lifetime, like
you've taken twenty five years already.It's a lifetime to go through. I'm

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scratching the surface, my friend.I really, I'm scratching the surface.
Every time I write a book,I think I know so much, and
then something else comes across my deskand I go, I don't know anything
at all. I mean, that'sgood. It means that. One of
my accountant says, So when you'replanning to retire, I said, when
I die, that's when I retire. There's so much interesting stuff out there,

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and you've got to take your timeresearching it and cross referencing it,
and you know, sitting back andpeople have laughed and said you know what,
It's a bit like waiting for analbum from Boston to get a book
out of you. I said,yeah, it takes time to do proper
research. You can't just keep comingup with a book every six months because
you can't work that fast. Imean not unless you have you know,

(01:09:38):
you can hire research assistance, andthen you've got to cross the t's and
dot THEI is. It takes timeto get the information set back and take
a big view over it. Itjust takes a lot of efforts. But
I'm getting back. I'll tell you. I mean, i'll tell you what.
I've got over four hundred and fortyhours or almost five hundred hours of

(01:10:00):
interviews on this show alone. It'sbasically master classes on each of these kinds
of topics. And just when Ithought, oh, I've heard it all,
it's someone like you comes along andyou'll throw a little seed of about
something you just said. I'm like, parallel civilizations, Oh god, oh
the Red giants, Jesus, Igotta go do that. Like So,
just when you think you've heard alittle no, no, no, oh

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no, was an archipelago? Ohno, I gotta go down that.
What their maps? Now? Igotta go look at the maps now like
it's just it's never ever and it'snever ending. But I appreciate you coming
on show. I'm gonna ask youa few questions. Ask all my guests,
what is your definition of living afulfilled life. We'll be right back

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after a word from our sponsor,and now back to the show. I
guess if you learn to understand oreven discover your your soul's purpose in this
lifetime and you're able to fulfill it, I think that's probably what it is.

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Am I doing it? I guessI am. I mean. I
spent most of my life in thecommercial world as a creative director. I
hated every minute of it. Well, actually no, I had great fun,
but I didn't like what I wasdoing because I didn't feel like I
was contributing to society in any meaningfulway. I made a lot of money,
but it's just not important. Iwanted to be a rock musician.

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That didn't go very well because Iknew I didn't quite have that talent that
you know you need to have tobe different to everybody else. You can't
just be a Jimi Hendrix or aTony Iomi or any your favorite guitar players,
you want to mention this because youknow there's something different about you.
And I was smart enough to understandthat I could pull my weight, but

(01:11:48):
not good enough to make a livingout of it. And now I'm doing
exactly what I'm doing. It's difficult, it's lonely. It would be nice
to share my adventures with someone special, but that's another story. But yeah,
no, I think if you knowwho you are the soul, not
as a brain or as this guyin this thing, but if you can

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understand who you are as a souland know that what you're doing is the
correct path and you're happy doing itdespite the challenges, I think you're doing
pretty well. So I think I'mabout sixty to seventy percent there, better
than most of my friend better thanmost I guess. I think the whole
purpose is that if you make adifference in life when you die, when

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you physically die, and you cansay you know what, and you know
you're floating above the room and you'regoing you know, I think I left
the world one percent better than whenI found it, and I think I've
improved a few people's lives. Youcan see done pretty well. You know
so hobody. If I can dothat, I'm doing pretty well. Now.
If you had a chance to goback in time and speak to little
Freddie, what advice would you givehim? Make sure your hair never falls

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out, and keep up the guitarlessons, and screw everybody that tells you
that you're no good and you shouldbe going you should you off working at
a bank or become an architect.My parents wanted me to be, and
I said, and fairly miserable forfor like ten years, because you don't
know what the hell you're doing.You're trying to fill in some gap in
your life that you have to paythe bills, but you don't know what

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you want to do because you wantyour passions here and you're sold that don't
follow your passion. No follow yourpassion, because when you die, you
can say, you know what.I may have formed on my face once
or twice, but at least Idid it and I have no regrets.
That would be my advice to myyounger self. Just go out there and
bloody well do it? Beautiful,beautiful? Now, how do you define

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yes? Yes? How do youdefine God or source energy? God?
You me? The Lamppost the cellphone. Everything is God. God is
essentially this creative paradox where it createseverything by knowing everything. But the paradox

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is it knows nothing. So it'ssense all of us out to explore on
its behalf, to report back toit what it created. If you can
make sense of that. Let methough, because it hurts my head.
Yeah, so we're here. It'swe're expressions of that Godhead, expressing the
Godhead on its behalf, reporting backon what tells me that. And someone
actually said to me recently, hadthis crazy it's over a few drinks in

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a pub in New Zealand. Ican tell I've just been there because I'm
talking so much about it. Thatsaid, God. You know, I
think God was just bored. Ithink that's the secret to life. God
was just bored. It just went, you know what, I know everything?
What else can I do? I'mbored? And it creates everything from

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nothing, but yet it had toknow everything in order to create what it
created. And I'm thinking, Okay, I need another beer right now because
hurts already. And what is theultimate purpose of life? Oh? God,
No, in terms of the bigpicture, Oh, I know what
the purpose is. I belong toa channeling group in England where we have

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access to some very interesting information andour fearless glorious leader also works with the
police in solving ninety nine point ninepercent of crimes that get handed to her.
We know the information she gets isvery very good because we act on
it. And there's things I can'treally tell you because of what we do
in the background, which are reallywhat we call spiritual terrorism. We go

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around fixing things behind the scenes andthat's our little thing. But I did
get the chance to ask some veryhigh level people during one of the sessions
what's this all about? And theysaid to have an experience, and the
whole room went, what, Yeah, you having an experience. So once
I'm done with this experience and Igo back to the source, what happens?

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What do you have another experience?And then what happens? And another
one? So if you had lotsof experiences, oh, we had so
many that we don't need any moreexperiences now adding youngest souls like you to
on your experience so that because weknow how difficult it is, one day
you'll be in our position pushing outadvice because you've had so many experiences and

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you've got the T shirt and youdon't need to do anything else, And
I mean that's the meaning of life, just to have an experience. Yes,
it's beautiful. I've heard the samething, sir. I've heard the
same yeah and tuition. They said, don't worry, be happy. And
where can people find out more aboutyou and the amazing work you're doing in

(01:16:30):
the book. Oh God help them. I'm sure they've got better things to
do. They can go on mywebsite and look at all the books and
all the videos and lots of articlesa bit there for at least a week.
It's called Invisible Temple dot com.Pretty. It has been such a
pleasure and honor speaking to you,my friend. I can't wait to have
you back on the show. Wecould talk so so much more about stuff.

(01:16:50):
So I appreciate you, my friend. Thank you again. Well,
thank you for having me Ellen,And it's Alex sir. By the way,
sorry, Alex, I'll forgive youbecause you have a sixteen hour jet
lag. I'm a sixteen hour jetlag. Appreciate you, my friend.
I'm serting the airport. I wantto thank Freddy so much for coming on

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