NLS 497: EXCLUSIVE Spiritual BOMBSHELL! Matt Kahn REVEALS theTRUE SOURCE of His MYSTICAL Teachings!

In today's episode, we dive deep into a story that transcends the ordinary. Matt Kahn, a spiritual teacher and author known for his gentle guidance and profound wisdom, takes us on a journey through his unique experiences as a channeler. From childhood encounters with spontaneous wisdom to mystical out-of-body experiences, Matt's life has been anything but conventional. As we unravel his story, we discover the remarkable ways he came to terms with channeling, hearing voices, and receiving guidance from higher realms.Matt shares that his channeling began at the tender age of eight. Imagine an eight-year-old boy casually speaking profound truths that leave adults around him astonished. "There’s a part of me standing next to me, telling me what to say, but I only know what I’m saying as I say it," he recalls. What started as a trickle of wisdom soon grew into an ocean of understanding, as he realized he wasn’t alone in his spiritual insights. He was, in his words, "a microphone for something greater."Throughout his journey, Matt Kahn experienced what many would call miraculous events. He had a vivid out-of-body experience at the age of 10, where he found himself in a heavenly garden filled with radiant colors and unconditional love. There, he encountered a being dressed in a white robe, who emanated light and love in a way he had never felt before. That experience left an indelible mark on his soul, showing him that spirituality was real, even if he couldn’t explain it at the time.Channeling became an integral part of Matt's life, though he never sought to make it his identity. He simply flowed with what he was receiving, using his gifts to help others. "I’m here to love all parts of me and whatever parts from my past hadn’t been loved by anyone else," he explains. This message of self-love became central to his work, helping others heal through embracing their own shadows and wounds.One of the most beautiful aspects of Matt's journey is his humble relationship with his guides. He didn't seek out fame or titles. In fact, he downplays the sensationalism of being a channeler, saying, "Channeling is just one of my abilities. I’m an empath, an intuitive, but these are just one of many things that I have been given to do the work that I do." His wisdom flows effortlessly, whether discussing his spiritual journey or cracking a joke about the quirks of life.In our conversation, Matt Kahn touches on the importance of living with integrity. He speaks about how his guides, including Ascended Masters like Melchizedek and Jesus, guided him to focus on love and heart-centeredness, not just esoteric experiences. He reminds us that spiritual growth is not about accumulating mystical achievements but about how we live our lives. The greatest wisdom he imparts is simple yet profound: "Whatever arises, love that."

SPIRITUAL TAKEAWAYS:

1. Self-Love is Essential: Matt’s message is clear—true healing and awakening begin with loving all parts of ourselves, especially the parts that feel unloved or unworthy.
2. Trust the Process: Even when we can’t make sense of it, life is always guiding us toward our highest good. Matt’s story is a testament to trusting in the unknown and allowing spiritual guidance to flow.
3. Spirituality is Grounded in Humanity: We don’t need to chase after spiritual experiences. The real magic happens when we integrate spirituality into our daily lives, embracing the ordinary with as much reverence as the extraordinary.

In this conversation, we witness the remarkable balance between the mystical and the practical, the divine and the human. Matt Kahn offers us not only his wisdom but also a reminder that we are all capable of connecting to something greater than ourselves. His journey inspires us to explore our own inner depths and to trust that, whatever path we walk, it’s leading us home.

Please enjoy my conversation with Matt Kahn.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those
of the guests and do not necessarily reflect the views
or positions of this show, its host, or any of
the companies they represent. Now today we welcome back on
the show one of my favorite guests of all time,
Matt Cohn. And Matt and I have a deep dive

(01:21):
into his story of coming out as a channeler. He
has been doing his work all these years and never
once really mentioning that he was a channeler. So he
is finally waving his flag of channeling out to the world.
So that and we talk about much much more. Let's
dive in. I like to welcome back to the show,

(01:43):
returning champion, Matt Conn.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
How you doing, brother, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
It's an honor to be here. What an incredible setup
you have.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Thank you so much, my friend. I appreciate that it's
been a long time coming, man, long time coming.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
And I just wanted to start out by saying, because
you know, I've known you for a little bit, and
I just wanted to congratulate you on this incredible success.
And whenever I get to tune in and watch even
and all these wonderful guests, it's such a beautiful level
of connection, and I just I love everything you're doing,
and so the chance to come back and spend time

(02:16):
with you.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Now, I wanted to talk to you about something that
came to my attention the other day.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I didn't do it.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I did. I was sitting and talking to Joy and
Joy said, well, you know, I met this guy named Matt,
and I'm like what And I lost my mind. I
was like, oh, this all this stuff. But then she's like, well,
you know, he's a channel.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
And I'm like, I'm sorry what, Matt's a channel. I'm like,
I've never heard him speak about it. I've never heard
him say anything. Yeah, he doesn't talk about it a lot,
but he's been channeling this entire time.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
So I'd love to talk to you a bit about
your journey as a channel, because a lot of I mean,
I mean, I've spoken to every almost every major channel
on the planet.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
I know a lot of good friends who are channels.
And Joy's a channel as well. Yeah she's a trance channel.
Yeah she actually or in body chap forgot the terminology,
but she gets into trances if you will a bit,
but you don't. So can you explain to people, first
of all, what kind of channel when you do? And

(03:23):
when did this start in your life? How did you
deal with it? How did you deal with the voices
in your head? Did you think they were nuts?

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Like? All this stuff start when I was eight years old. Wow,
So I was eight years old and I had these
moments where as a precocious eight year old, I would
say things that my parents would point out an eight
year old shouldn't know, like where'd you get that?

Speaker 2 (03:49):
When made you say that?

Speaker 3 (03:51):
And I remember I was with my parents and their
friends and I said something out of the blue and
it was some sort of spontaneous wisdom and I don't
remember what I said, and they all kind of gasped
and looked at me, and they asked me, like on
the spot, like where did you get that? And I've
had these moments when I was young where it felt

(04:13):
like a different part of me would speak through me,
like like in the same way where people like in
a funny context, you know when people have that moment
where something just gets blurted out.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Of their mouth. Sometimes it's not always a positive thing.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
But oh my god, I didn't have a chance to
like that. But I would do that, but instead of
it being putting my foot in my mouth, it would
actually be like a different version of myself would just
speak through me like a microphone. So at eight years old,
I said something wise. My parents and their friends say
where did you hear that? And I just looked at
them and something said through me, It's like whispering into

(04:54):
my own selves here and I was eight?

Speaker 2 (04:57):
What and so it was?

Speaker 3 (04:59):
And when I was trying to describe, was like, there's
a part of me standing next to me telling me
what to say, but I only know what I'm saying
as I say it.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
But you didn't see them, You just heart did you
felt I felt them, so you didn't hear it.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Later in life I started to have that ability.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
But at first it was just like straight through something's
coming through. There's not even a processing of it, no
process process it after it's.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Out, not even an urgency of I have to let
this out.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
It just spoke through me. Interesting, it just spoke right
through me.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
When so at this point at eight and this is
you and I have a similar vintage Yeah so back
so back then, Yeah, not a lot of infol No
shows like this were around.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
None.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Occasionally in the occult book section you would find, you know,
an Estra hickbook or a seth book. So what kind
of did you feel weird about it? Did you feel
comfortable with it? Because at eight you're figuring out cocoa puffs, right,
you know, and Saturday Morning cartoons. Yeah, as you're moving
through adolescence pretting teenagers, how did you deal with it?

(06:08):
How did you feel about this?

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Well, it also was around the same time I had
an out a body experience. I went to heaven. Okay,
what you eight or ten?

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (06:18):
And so I found myself in this beautiful garden and.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
It's this dream like or were you how did how
did you have the autobotos?

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, I thought I was having a dreamy and I
was in the most amazing garden. Now we were up
in the eighties. So in the eighties it was like,
you know, don't talk to strangers.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Obviously, don't get into it.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
No Grouff the crown dog.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Right for Adam Walsh case.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
And so when I was a kid, I was very
afraid of being kidnapped and separated from my parents. Terrified,
right right, if I was one esterday I saw a
van I'm running you.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Know what my kids till today, like that looks like
an eighties van. That looked like it's almost gonna take.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Me from this day to this day. If I'm in
traveling next to a van.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Or from like an like an eighties astro van, oh
forget that, or like the eighteen van.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
But about the about the cool teams. So I'm getting
me out of here.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
You know, it's weird if I park next to one,
I won't park next because I saw Science of the
Lambs too. Yeah, never help me move this couchin.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
But Matt, don't about your guides. And my guides told me, do.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Not park next to us, exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
We have chariots, not fans. So I was in this
dream and I remember saying to myself, I don't know
where I am, but I feel safe. And it was
the most incredible love I'd ever felt in my entire life.
That the colors of this garden. It was as if
the colors were emitting this vibration of love. And I
don't know how to explain that, but in the experience,

(07:42):
the colors are so bright and outrageous. It's just this
feeling of ecstasy and love. And it was a love
that I felt that was far beyond anything I knew
for my parents. And I'm walking through this garden of
waist time flowers, and I can feel myself moving through
this field of flowers. And then I started noticing, as
I'm feeling my body moved through it, I'm also levitating

(08:03):
above myself, watching myself. Now I don't know how I'm
having two different experiences, but the love was so intense.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
You didn't need an explanation.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
But I go, wow, that's interesting. And in front of me,
hovering above the flowers, was this being in a white robe,
shoulder length, dark hair, and a beard.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
I didn't know who he was.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
I was raised Jewish, and he motioned me towards him,
and I froze, and then I started moving towards him,
and as I got about as close as I am
to you, it was just pure white light shining out
of his eyes. Now into my eight year old or
ten year old mind, I thought of like those old
scary movies or people would flip there, and I had

(08:43):
that thought, and as soon as I had that thought,
it kind of broke the state, and I fell through
the garden, through the sky and back into my body.
And it was only when I landed back in my
body did I know that I left it, because I
didn't even know what it would be to leave your body,
because I know nothing about spirituality. I'm back in my body,
I'm shaking, I'm sweating, and I'm freezing cold at the

(09:04):
same time, and in the corner of my eye, in
my bedroom, of my parent's house. I see the same
figure in this kind of chalky white I would now say,
etheric energy motioned me towards him, and I looked, and
he disappeared. I told my parents about this experience. Now,
my parents are both very spiritual, so that was interesting.

(09:25):
And my dad told me about nearly the same experience
he had thirty years before me in boot camp. And
I didn't know what that meant. I just knew there
was a connection. There's a reason I'm sharing this. My
parents were very spiritual people. I was raised Jewish. Being
raised Jewish for me was not a particularly deep spiritual experience,

(09:47):
and my parents would always suggest, oh, try reading this book,
or we like this book, and they didn't resonate.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Well. They brought me this.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Big spiritual book called the Auransha, which is this huge
spiritual heady book. And they handed me this book and
I flipped it open, and the only thing that I
would do I wouldn't read the book because as a
to this day, as a channel, I have a few
rules about it, but I don't read books. I write
them right right right, and I can talk about a process.
But what I did was I put my hand over

(10:16):
the book and I just felt the energy. And as
I would feel the energy, I would start to learn things.
And so from like ten years old, I started spontaneously
doing things like this. And after they add about experience.
I'd walked down the street with my friends and I
could see angels next to me, but in my peripheral vision,
and I didn't even know what an angel was. But
they look like they look like beings in robes with wings.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
I mean exactly.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Whatever you would think an angel will look.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Like, right, And I would and I would have the
sense of these are angels with very large wings. And
I would say to my friend who's walking with me, Oh,
there's angels next to me.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
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and now back to the show.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
What's an angel? And I couldn't answer, because I.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Knew you had ever heard of a concept of an angel? No, well,
in Judaism is there are angels?

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Aren't well, there's guardian angels. Maybe i'd heard of the
term guardian angel. But I just said there are angels
around me. And my friend's like, what are they here for?
And I said, oh, I don't know yet. I haven't
told me that, but I just know they're there. So
I would have these moments where I would know things,
and the things that I would.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Know would be so irrefutably true.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
It was more true what I would be told intuitively
than the sky being blue and throughout my life. What's
so interesting? So my parents were open to spirituality. They
were hippies in the seventies. They had done different spiritual courses,
so they could talk a little jargon. They weren't really
well practiced in their life, but they could kind of

(11:49):
point me in directions. And it wasn't like I was
raised in a family where this was weird. But for me,
spirituality was always the subject that lit my soul on fire,
Like when people like if a kid would watch Michael Jordan,
go I'm going to practice and be like him. Sure,
that was how it was when I discovered spirituality. And

(12:15):
I went to my friend's house, told methis experience had
out of body and they had a picture of Jesus,
Jesus in the law, and I go, that's the guy
I met.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
And they go, mat, you didn't meet Jesus.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
And I didn't know what the big deal was, but
but but I knew that's who I had met, and
so I went on this journey and then like at thirteen,
after I was barmatsfood, I was given a journal in
like a like a cross.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Pens, really nice pen and a journal to write in.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
And I did and I and my godmother gave me
this as a gift. And I didn't know what to do,
and so I would just sit I would listen. So, okay,
one of my biggest inspirations that actually activated my ability
channel like not just say things spontaneously, but to start

(13:03):
to do automatic writing was Michael Jackson. Okay, So I
would listen to Michael Jackson and it just things would
come out, and I would write.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
About well, I mean he was pretty connected. Yeah, but
the music that he did hit billions of people around the.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
World, and I mean incredible and the frequency the eighties, right,
and so all of God's children human nature, right, And
then I and then I started writing quotes. And for
some reason, when I started channeling quotes, I would number
them and after everyone, I would sign them. I don't know,
you know, early on you have your process. I don't

(13:37):
know what I'm doing. You sign I have to sign
my court practice, your autographic what an ego?

Speaker 1 (13:44):
I did this?

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Thank you, thank you, and I stopped numbering my quotes.
After the four thousandth one I channeled Wow. And this
was when I was sixteen years old, so I'd already
channeled like four thousand quotes by like sixteen or seventeen.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
But you don't know the term channel.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
I just hurt, like I think I was watching a
show on Edgar Casey and I heard the word channel,
and I went, well, that's clearly what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Obviously I'm not sleeping, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
And it was a conscious state. And what I would
realize was a lot of people have very vivid dreams.
My dream state felt like when my eyes were open,
so Edgar Casey would go to sleep and we're get
to trance and bring this information in. I intuitively felt
like I do that when my eyes are open. So

(14:36):
my whole life, I haven't had like a lot of
super vivid dreams. In fact, as I went through my
awakening process, one of the hardest things has been to
sleep because for me, the waking state is where my
access to everything really exists. So I'm just writing these quotes,
like I think. The first quote I channeled was in

(14:56):
Tested Times, True Character prevails.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
I'm like, what thirteen?

Speaker 1 (15:00):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Like, I'm just channeling these words and showing my parents that.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Listening to the cure.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
The cure, No, it would have been a very different
very boys don't cry?

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Do or do that?

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Or do they listen to Michael Jackson. I'm and And
then the other part of it is spiritualities where I
find my home. Spiritual is where I find sanity.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
The world I.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Live in doesn't feel like it's real. I feel like
I'm in some weird movie. But spirituality feels real. And
the other place that felt real was on stage as
a performer. I'm gonna singing dancing group, I'm acting, and
for me, it was just performing from the audience was
just a really exhilaration. So the irony is fast forwards.

(15:52):
Like when I'm seventeen, I'm in the singing and dancing
group and we get this audition to be a part
of this big show and we and and we're all
dancers and it turns out we're not going to do
much dancing, but we were. I was a part of
the Super Bowl halftime show with Michael Jackson. I got
to perform with the my idol and we and what

(16:14):
song Heal the World stop it so my whole life.
It was the Bills and the Cowboys. It was at
the Rose Bowl he did Heal the and I was
a part of the kids choir with like me, thousands
or hundreds of kids. I met him in rehearsal by accident.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
We were in rehearsal.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
He was there and then they say cut and all
these kids swarm him and he backed up and kind
of into me. He turned around and this is the guy,
the being that inspired me, and I like shook his hand.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
And I'm like, you're you know, you're the greatest.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
And I remember thinking to myself, if he's in a
different country, people blocks away or passed out in the street,
I'm right here.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
We're needing this. And it was. It was so surreal.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
So he and inspired me to start channeling, which I
didn't or that was what I would listen to while
I was channeling. And then I performed in the Super
Bowl show with him, and not knowing that the Heel
of the World song would be a foreshadow of what
my life's career path and contribution would be.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
But all this time.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
I never really knew the term channel I just knew,
and I would describe it that way because it felt
like wisdom is channeling through me, and it never for
the most time, it was never. Sometimes I would hear
it and I would need five minutes before I can

(17:41):
get down.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
To write it down, so I kind of hold it
in my brain a little bit. I go, oh, hold that.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
One, and I'd write it down. When I was about
my early twenties is when my guides started talking to me.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
So okay, yeah, so stop there first sect. Yeah please,
So your guides they're starting to talk to you. Yeah, yeah,
you and I are both fairly grounded. I know we're
from the eighties, we're gen X, this is this is
you know, we're in a different we're here.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
We're here.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
So that is why I love talking to someone of
my vintage, who are going is going through this because
I walked, we walked over the same bodies. I love
that as we went through life. So when you when
your guide start talking to you, you're hearing.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Now now I'm here.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Now you're here, you're not seeing.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
I'm seeing and hearing and feeling.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
At the same time.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Now, so you do see them?

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, I see him here in.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Your third eye. Yeah, of course you see him inside, Yeah,
you don't like Bob.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Every once in a while I can see an outline.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Of a something, but but it's mostly all in here.
So you this starts. So now you've you've been prepped since.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Eight Yeah, yeah, you've been prepped in I don't know
that I've been prepped.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
No, no, of course not. No, you're just having fun listening
to Michael Jackson signing quotes, quotes in your own quotes
because one day it's gonna be worth a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
I don't know, maybe.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Going through all this left. So you're actually being prepped
and honed for this next stage when your guides come
in and they start talking to you and you start
hearing voices. Now, when you first heard.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
A voice in your head, did.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
You think you were going nuts? Or or did you go, oh,
this is the next because you had been prepped so
long because I spoken of channel, So who were just
like sitting one day and they're like, hello, man, this
is your guy, and you're just like, what is happening?
And it's a process. It takes years to kind of
grasp it. You've been kind of a very slow burned

(19:40):
to get to this point. So when this happens.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
What happened, Well, i'll tell you. I'll tell you the backstory.
So I was guided to go into or I have.
I felt an inspiration to go into.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
A spiritual bookstore and they have these pictures of the
ascended masters on the walls. Said, oh, who that will
sended Masters.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
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and now back to the show.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
I said, who's the guy in the center. You look
like yan Off the Wizard.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
I said, I don't know who he is. That's my guide.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
They said, well, that's Melchizadek and I said, well that's
my guide. And they said, oh, and you know, so
take our psychic development course of course, and right so
I and two weeks into the course, they said, could
you teach it?

Speaker 2 (20:29):
What do you mean?

Speaker 3 (20:29):
I'm here to learn and like and then they said, like,
could you do a reading? And what's a reading? Like?
I think I'm reading poetry or something. And I sat
down with someone and I'm sitting looking at someone, and
for a second, I go, this is crazy. And then
all of a sudden something comes through and I do
a reading. Don't even know what a reading is. But
then in my at that time. I'm living with my parents. Twenties.

(20:56):
I can't remember the exactly your about twenties. What it
happened was, I had I was healing from a back injury.
I was a personal trainer. I used to be a
bodybuilding personal trainers. Yeah, and I was gonna compete in
body on all of my people who know my work
like a you know, which is by the way, very
humbling when you're on stage in front of hundreds of
people and you say I used to be a bodybuilder.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
You're joking, You're funny. Oh, I'm gonna go journal about.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Journal inside it and side it right.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
And listened to Michael Jackson Michael School. So I was
living at my parents house because I had a back
injury and I was in so much pain and things
are starting to kind of open up.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Go to the store. Oh, Melks is my guide. I
don't know who Milks is.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
And I'm in my I'm in my bedroom of my
of my parents house where I was living, and I
hear Melchisedek's voice although and I just hear a voice
say you not who you think you are? And literally
what I said was who the f are you?

Speaker 2 (22:02):
That's what I said. Who are out loud, out loud?
Who the f are you?

Speaker 3 (22:07):
And he goes on and I introduced myself. I am Elkizadak,
one with the Galactic Council, and this being I'm talking to,
thankfully had the same loving feeling from the garden experience
when I left my body, and that's how I knew
if it wasn't for the love. And people that know
my work know that my work has always been about love.

(22:29):
It's because there has never been a moment with my
guides where the wisdom has not been super high level
and always loving, always loving, And so it was the
love I felt from them that allowed me to trust
and listen. And there was always a part of me
in the beginning and at least for the first ten
years of my career with them for eighteen years where

(22:51):
I always held a parallel and I said, this is
either happening or I am insane, and totally held that
because it allowed me to go there. So I'd say, Okay,
well who am I speaking with? This is Melchisedek and
who so Malkisak. For what I understand, I don't do

(23:12):
a lot of research. I guess maybe we've been Jesus teacher,
but is a very just a very high level ascended master.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
He was one of the teachers that taught Jesus.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah, one of the teachers. And I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Again, I haven't done a lot of research on Melkiza Dec.
I just know the being that I work with. And
so he looks like Andalf the Wizard. He speaks like
I guess Gandalf the Wizard would speak very oldorly. But
what's cool is like he'll say these words that I've
never heard before. Then I look about but I'm like,
that was the right usage, and that's an actual word,

(23:43):
like superlative, my son, ubiquitous or by Tomorrow's time, and
I would like, Tomorrow's the time who talks like this?
And so I would beat Melkisa dek and then and
then I would say to Melkis Dec, I said, he
just said, you're going to meet other beings, and I said,
they have to be accompanied by you. And every single

(24:06):
being I met, I gave a specific color and image
to and every time I met them, they had to
all come with this combination. So I knew that I
was talking to because I was afraid of being fooled.
I love spirituality, so much. I was afraid my mind
was making it up. I was afraid I was fooling myself.

(24:28):
And if I was going to help people and be
given trust and work with people in their most delicate
moments of uncertainty, I needed to know that I was
really doing this. And what I was doing was so
mesmerizing for me, I couldn't wrap my mind around it
and so otherworldly. So I went through a mixture of experiences.

(24:51):
I would say a little reluctant, but not reluctant enough.
But every time I talk to them, I'd ask them questions.
And one of the ways I really opened up my
channel was I kept asking questions. I wanted to see
if they were going to getting patient, want if they
if they were gonna have the same answers. I wanted
to see what would happen. And it was always loving,
always patient. The answers never veered. I'd ask the same questions,

(25:17):
I got the same answers. They'd say things, things would happen.
I mean, it was like very light clockwork. I'd meet Melchisedek,
then I went and you know, then I met Jesus,
and then it was Mother Mary, then it was Archangel
Michael Kwan yin Yoga, Nanda Shri Yutaswar, and I started
to meet all these beings, Archangel Gabriel, Archangel Sandalfon, all

(25:38):
these beings. They had all these different purposes. At one
point I had like thirty different guides i'd met, But
then over time Melchisedek was the main guide and they
would bring different energies from these different beings. But Melchisedic
has always been the main that I've worked with. And
it was the Galactic Council, and I was, you know.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
And okay, so stop you there for please. So when
you're bringing the Galactic Council, it sounds.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Fantastic, sounds fantastic.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Are you a Jedi like?

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Like?

Speaker 1 (26:13):
And I joke about it because a lot of people
say or hear these things and it just you you
could dismiss it so quickly.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
It's been something that I've been weary about bringing people
in with that that kind of terminology. I've heard it,
and I understand it and I get it, but it's
something that kind of could turn somebody off when you
see when you hear, when you heard Galactic Council, that
you've met Jesus, you've walked in the garden, You've all

(26:41):
this stuff, but now you're bringing ETS into the scenario.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
How did you process that? Because again, like you're like,
who the f are you? You're that guy? You're not like,
thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
I've been signing my name waiting for you.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
No, no, none of that stuff, Like, so what did
you say when that came into your world?

Speaker 3 (27:00):
You know, whenever I met with the Galactic Council, I
met with Ascended Masters. I had never met an et, right,
so I didn't know about ETS. I just knew of
the Gray Aliens. And when I was a kid, I
was afraid I was being abducted or something, even though
if I was abducted, it's probably like it's me Steve.

(27:20):
We're cousins, right, like we're going We're going to the barbecue.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Baha?

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Is that you you've grown?

Speaker 3 (27:30):
But when I met with the Ascended Masters and Archangels,
I was I was told briefly, so these are the
beings that oversee the evolution of Earth. Now what's interesting
is that I remember saying to my guides, this is
always like what we're talking about is what I thought

(27:52):
I was going to learn in school. Like when I
was in school, in public school. I told myself at
a very early age, you only need to know this
to get through the system. And I felt like everything
I was being taught was some sort of weird mishmash
of like like, I don't know if any of this
is as how things really happened. It just felt really strange.

(28:13):
And so when I started working with the Galactic Council,
I remember the feeling of Okay, the feeling of the
garden is there. It's always loving, it's never ego. I
feel like the highest version of myself when I'm with them,
and this is what I always wanted to be learning.
And so there was just such a deep, nearly intangible

(28:33):
connection with them.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
And then I had.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
This experience that I think will kind of pull it
on perspective. So at this point I'm getting used to
working with them. I'm talking, I talk very sarcastically, and
they are just always in their very loving place. And
I remember Milkysad I said, we want to show you something,
and so I had the impulse to close my eyes
and go into a meditation, and as soon as I did,

(28:57):
I was kind of blasted out into a different location,
like an astral projection. I walked up the stairs of
what looked like the Lincoln Memorial, these pillars white, and
in the entrance was this light table, this table that
was illuminated, and standing around in front of it were
all the guides that I had been working with.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
And they were all.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Standing there, and I had this funny feeling of walking
up like, hey, you know what I mean, right, we
wanna you know. I walked up and I hey, which
is funny that I still had my kind of personality.

(29:41):
And they said, we want to you know, my son,
We want to show you something. My son ground yourself,
my son visualized tree roots, and so they said, we
want to show you something. And so they reached under their.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Faces like they were mad, like oh God.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
And they pulled up their faces like masks, and underneath
all of them was me and I gasped.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Holy but this was so.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Perfect to my personality. I gasped, and there was silence,
and I looked at all of them and I said,
I don't get it. And they said, we are not
only what you are becoming. We are what you have
already become. We are agents of the future who have
stepped back in time to visit ourselves in spiritual childhood.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
That's what I was told.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Beautiful now in that moment, so succinctly mind gone, but
in my heart there was a sense of So I'm
channeling beings of different vibrational densities. Each one is an
archetypal expression of my totality. So there's now no separation

(31:10):
between I'm working with the Galactic Council and they are
also mirroring what is awakening within me. And it was
at that point when I start So channeling has always
been a verb of how I do what I do,
but I've never I never when I started to see
other people channel, and I love and respect it, you know,

(31:31):
all these different beautiful channels. For some reason, I never
wanted that to get in the way or limit because
when I started teaching this work, it was after I
had some really like what I described you as one
of my first awakenings. Then I went through many realizations

(31:51):
or awakenings of self realization that were so incredibly like.
I literally had the experience of hearing an explode. I
thought there was a gunshot in my neighborhood and it
was in my head, and I then felt my entire
life's history was out of my ears and my ego
just dissolved.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Of course, the ego is reborn in a different way.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
But I've had these huge moments of self realization, and
when I came into the spirituality, I thought that's what
I was going to teach, and I didn't want the
esoteric nature of my journey to limit because whenever I
was in in front of an audience that was really
really into the esoteric, it was like talking to a

(32:35):
Star Wars fan who was too much a fan of
the franchise to get the deeper metaphor. And so I
didn't want to limit because what I was really transmitting
was the energy of awakening. Then I would be around
people that were really into awakening, but it was so
dry and they thought even intuitive or psychic ability was

(32:56):
a mental delusion. So I had this very interesting and
then I also noticed that a lot of people who
wanted to awaken either they thought they awakened prematurely, or
they just wanted to get out of the pain of
their life and were trying to bypass their experience. I
realized that what prevents the awakening from really sticking was

(33:24):
a certain level of heart coherence or a certain level
of emotional maturity that comes from our healing journey. And
I remember talking to my Melchisedek about this, and I said,
you know, I'm coming out hot with this awakening stuff,
but the people that are really into awakening don't have
the emotional healing for it to stick. And then the
people that are who will listen to my esoteric stories

(33:48):
like I'm telling you and this audience are so into
that that we'll have these big conversations, but the bigger
thing will be missed, Like people will want to ask me,
what's it like talking to when I send a master,
What's it like being on a lightship? What's it I've
been beamed up on lightships? What's it like being in
different dimensions? And we miss the invitation that this is

(34:12):
all about the awakening of consciousness inside all of us.
And so I talked to Melkysak and he says, my son,
a sign will come right here. We've talked like this
every day. Okay, sign will come, okay, whatever. And a
couple days later, I'm walking down the street and I
hear in my mind, whatever arises love that and I
didn't know what it meant, and so I thought, well,

(34:33):
let's take it literally. So I'm walking down the street,
I see some person and I silently say it and
I love you. Oh, and I love you, And I think,
whatever gets my attention, I'm just gonna send love to
And that felt very nice. And then something triggered me
later that day, and I realized, Oh, this thing was
created in my life to trigger the very emotion that

(34:56):
showed me what wound or what feeling or verse of
myself was next in line to be loved. That I'm
here to love all parts of me, and whatever parts
from my past hadn't been loved by anyone else, we're
waiting in line for a course correction.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
And my external.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Reality was only created to show me what part of
me was next to be loved. Oh, whatever rises love that,
And that became what the ascended Masters were giving me
to share with the world.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
And it was then became my mission to.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Help the world be more heart centered, help the world
learn how powerful it is to be heart centered, help
the world learn what it means to be an EmPATH,
because it's that emotional nourishment that creates the foundation for
these bigger awakenings to occur. So I came into this

(35:51):
field ready to speak about awakening, and I weave it
through my teachings. But I was asked by my guides, Hey,
what the world really needs is really the emotional sustenance
of self love. And so that became my mission for
the last eighteen years, to help people love what arises,

(36:14):
to learn how to love themselves, to not use spirituality
as a distraction from self love, and to not use
self love as a distraction from inspired, mature choices. And
I think along the way, I didn't use the word
channeling a lot, so I think a lot of people

(36:34):
just didn't put me in the category because I'm not transchanneling.
But when I speak, people feel the energy, and what
they're feeling is the same feeling of heaven that's never
left me since I was eight years old, and so
I'm transmitting the vibration of heaven. I'm transmitting an energy
that heals, awakens and transforms. So when my words are spoken,

(36:58):
and I don't even really choose my words, I just
they always flow out of me. Even when I'm being funny,
I'm not choosing them. And it's the same way like
Robin Williams, for example, or Jim Carrey. They are channels.
If you know what channeling. As you go, they're obviously channeling.
It's just not like I said before we started this broadcast.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
They have some funny guides they have there.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
But I'll tell you, guides can be extremely funny. Of course,
you know our egos are funny, but guides are very funny.
So I set off camera. You know, we were talking
about channeling, and I said, if I was a world
class chef and I had the ability to smell and
that helped me make incredible food, I wouldn't be known
as a sniffer chef. Right, Channeling is just one of

(37:46):
my abilities. I'm an EmPATH, I'm an intuitive, but these
are just one of many things that I've been given
to do the work that I do. I've always identified
with being a spiritual teacher and a healer. I think
of myself as an artist because I think what we
do is a work of art.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
This is it's creating, creating.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
I'm a creator, but I've always been a channel and
I think for me, the reason why it wasn't such
an obvious thing was because the conversations I got in
about my very esoteric upbringing and my experiences, even like
when I was beamed up on a light ship and

(38:25):
I met Kwanya and face to face, like I've heard
these experiences that are and people hear that, and I
love sharing that, But sometimes the conversation gets away from
the essence, which is, how can we take this story
that I've lived? And for every viewer watching this, you know,

(38:46):
if they walk away and go wow, that Matt con
is an amazing being, that's not the success of them
walking away feeling touched by spirit and being more in
tune with their essence, more in tune with their intuition,
and being more awake and expanded and healed than before

(39:08):
this moment. That's that's literally my focus.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
And so.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
And when I first came out and we put my
videos on YouTube, I didn't want it to be listen
to me because of these experiences I've had.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
I got you. You know what I'm saying, No, I
got you, I got you.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Yeah, it's you don't want to get you don't want
to get this stuff in the way. I struggle without
myself because a lot of times I'm like, how do
I position this? How do I Because my goal is
not the preacher to the to the converted.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
That's very easy.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
It's about finding people who curious about something, curious about
something else, and it opens up rabbit holes that they
can go down as well.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
And I'm just to clarify this. None of the Sun
has happened on any sort of drugs, mushrooms, toad skin,
nothing like that.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Okay, I have to ask. I have to ask, of course, no,
because I've had people who've had these I've had people
who've had so much LSD that it should have killed
a horse. And yet and they went out. They go
out to this wonderful and very spiritual experience. They go
to the edge of the universe. They meet an alien
and they go, what are you doing here? You're not
supposed to be here. Get out of here, and he goes.

(40:34):
Ten years later, they take another trip. I told you
not to. You're not ready to go with that kind
of stuff. So I say that joking, half joking, but
half not, because people a lot of times use psychedelics
to go to these places.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Of course.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
And what's interesting is, you know, I even had.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
And I have no.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Disrespect for psychedelics but places, but I think that it
needs to be used in a very mindful, prescriptive way.
So like when people come to my events or they
watch videos, they feel an energy, right, they go through
this experience, they go through an experience that is like

(41:16):
a psychedelic trip. Like even in my waking state, you know,
I see the vibrational particles of energy that make up
solid form. If I look at the ground, I can
see like waves of energy that make up the ground.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Like.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
But these are levels of reality that have been awakened
within me. And I still have the ability, thankfully to
to function. But I remember I was going to be
invited to do a retreat in this retreat center where
they also did medicine ceremonial and they said, yeah, you know,
after people have done with your event, they can come

(41:48):
and just do some myahuasca or whatever. And I said
to them, and I said, but you know, it felt
irresponsible for me. For while people are integrating the energy
and transmit to then wander into an ayahuasca circle, do that,
and then they're integrating that, then they wander back the
next morning, and so too much. And so I think
that For me, it's always been about being so responsible

(42:14):
not only for my audience and the experiences I'm guiding,
but for me, having the experiences I've had sober has
made me respectful of the plant medicine. But for me,
there's not an interest for like people would always say,

(42:37):
but aren't you just kind of curious what would happen?
And I know that if I was called ceremonially in
my heart, like, if that was something I needed to
connect with, I would follow that. But if I don't
have that, like, I think one of the most amazing
things about this, this experience for me is is it
has absolved me of this hunger or curiosity for more.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
For them the sacred anymore.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Right, there's a code of mindfulness in the universe, and
there's something to be said about making the most with
what you have instead of always thinking more is going
to be the answer.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Yeah, And I mean, I've been a person who's never
drank or smoked. I tried drinking. It's my body rejected.
It was just not something I was built to do.
And many people are like, are you interested if you like,
you know, trying a gummy you know, or doing this,
I'm like, you know, it doesn't really, it doesn't. It
messes with my nervous system. It's just not what I'm

(43:37):
supposed to do. And I've had experiences as well, spiritual
experiences that that.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
I didn't need.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
I got high in my own supply, like you do
if you get high on our own supply, in that
sense where you don't need it.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Now, there are people.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
You know.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
I spoke to a vet the other day.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
It completely clear helped him cure himself a PSD PDSD
because it brought up all the There is a purpose
for it, and it's not for everyone, just like this
conversation not for everyone.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Right of course, if.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
You are ready for a conversation like this, it'll be
in front of you. Yes, And if you're watching this,
patrol us, God bless you.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
And by the way, and that's some of the most
entertainment I have is reading the comments.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Shocking best, so much fun, by the way, you know,
it's funny. So my parents both were hippie origin. They
both had medical marijuana licenses for their ailments. And when
I lived with my parents before a lot of this happened,
I would sit with my parents, I'd smoke with my parents.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
I get high.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
I live in that kind of family, which is very different.
And then I would give dharmatox and they would say, Matthew,
now we can finally understand what you're saying because I'm
high and I remember being high and going, oh, this
is actually how I feel naturally, but in a different way.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
It's different, it's different, it's extremely different. I spoke to
a yogi once, yeah, and I said, what do you
think of psychedelics? And he's like, well, and he gave
a beautiful and again it's not for everybody, but he
goes Taking a psychedelic is like taking a sledgehammer to it,
to a wall to make a window where meditation is

(45:29):
putting in the window.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Sure, organically, sure.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Because one way is going to be a little slower.
The other way is a rocket ship, and not everyone's ready.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
For that rocket.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Well, and you know, it's like a beauty. It's like
a meal at a buffet. You can eat as much
as you want, but you're gonna have to digest it,
and the amount of time it takes a digest and experience,
like some people will come to my events and they'll
have to digest that, and then what happens is that
sometimes the digestive experience is confused for more trauma and

(46:03):
they need something else they think to heal that ailment.
They don't realize it would be like, for example, if
someone was in surgery and was recovering post op and
they said, I'm in so much pain I need I
think I need another surgery to get rid of this,
and the nurse says, no, mister Smith, what you're feeling
is the pain of the surgery you just went through.

(46:23):
We don't need to reopen you up. And so I
think what a lot of times people are doing is
they think they're supposed to be, They're supposed to feel
a certain way, and it's like, what can I do?
How many things can I double down on? I'm going
to meditate for five hours a day. I'm gonna chant this,
I'm going to do this plant medicine. And we've taken
our Western culture of more and better and we've applied

(46:46):
it to something that requires mindfulness. Like it's one thing
when you would wander into the woods and come upon
a plant that you were meant to in jest and
you had your experience it right, But with things so
EVAs and not every shaman is going to you know,
sometimes shaman will succumb to the desires of someone paying

(47:08):
them versus being true to right. And that's true in
every field. So I think it's just we're really at
a part in history or point in history where the
question is can I be aware of what I actually need?
And might it be true that what I need is

(47:29):
far less than what I think I need? Or can
I learn to make the most of what I already
have instead of just you know, like when we were kids,
I don't play with my toys, but I need the
new Transformers, and then I'm not going to play with that, right,
and the same thing. So there is no doubt that
plant medicine can help with PTSD and really deep levels

(47:51):
of healing. And I've seen it happen, and I there
would be no reason for me for me to say otherwise.
It's all about application, and it's all about is this
actually what you need? And I think we're at a
point in the spiritual journey where we're all ready for

(48:13):
a more mature dive, which is, you know, there's some
you know, a lot of people will say high level
spirituality is like when I can make objects levitate, when
I can meet at send and Masters. High level spirituality
is when you're attracted to what you need, not seduced
by what you think you want, and when you get

(48:36):
to that place. And again that's why I will talk
about my experiences, but I don't, you know, I read
them right, because it's not like, hey, watch Mad's video
because of blah blah blah, Hey he talks.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
To Jesus all the time.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
I wanted to be no one special and I wanted
if I meant to do this work, people will as
innate with what is moving through me.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
And that's what happened.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
And I've met people who have had really big spiritual experiences.
I've met people who have said to have big spiritual experiences.
But what's important to me is the current state of embodiment.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
And you know, the thing is that I get asked
a lot by people who, you know, find out what
I do, and they go.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
So, do you do you believe that she's channels?

Speaker 4 (49:29):
It's just like, I mean, it seems pretty weird, and
it seems like God, I'm like, you know what, this
is my take on the whole thing, and I.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Go, this is my take on all of them. And
the funny thing is I.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
I mean, I knew Daryl Anka as a filmmaker for
years before I eve.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Knew he channeled. That's interesting, fascinating, isn't the way the
world works? Right?

Speaker 4 (49:49):
And then years later I have the show. So I've
known people who are channels at a human level before
I ever knew that they channeled. So knowing the way.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
The world works, channeling is a tough gig man, Yeah,
Like you know that there's easier ways to hustle people
than channeling, right, And it's very difficult to do if
the fake So I always go look, believe it, don't
believe it. Don't let the channeling part persuade you. Right,

(50:21):
what are they saying?

Speaker 2 (50:22):
What are they saying?

Speaker 1 (50:24):
What is the message? Is it helping you? Is it
helping you in your journey? Then take it. If it's not,
discard it and move on exactly.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
And I say that about everything we talk about on
the show. Of course, does it resonate with you?

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Is it helping you?

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Well?

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Even if we take an example of like going to
see a psychic reader, right, correct, So if you go
to a psychic reader, and let's say you go and
they tell you information that you resonate with Oh my god,
that was true for my father.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
You walk away having a good experience with a psychic
reader because you yourself are in tune or intuitive enough
to confirm that it was real and true information. If
you go to a psychic reader and let's say that
they say things that just doesn't feel right, it feels off,
how do you know it's off because you walk away
more in tune with yourself. So, whether it's a good

(51:24):
or a bad reading, the whole purpose is that you
walk away more in tune with yourself. So if a
channel says something that resonates and it feels good in
your body, you're now walking away more connected and in
tune with yourself, which means you're healing is accelerating, and
your awakening is deepening.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
And that's the service.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
You know.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
What's funny is that I have a unique perspective on
life because I speak to people like you all the time.
I've spoken to channels, I've spoken to some of the
best psychics in the world mediums. I talk to them
all the time, probably more than a normal human being does.
They don't generally have maybe one or two, but they
don't talk to hundreds like I do. So, you know,

(52:07):
I always get little you know, sometimes after the recording
is off, they'll go.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
I have to tell you something. My gods are bugging me.
I have to tell you. So I'm like, all right, cool,
you know, and they'll tell me something.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
And I mean, everybody who's been on my show, to
be honest with you, I can feel when they're right
or not. And they've been pretty much on point because
I don't I'm.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Not asking about anything, and they're saying stuff that have
not been mentioned on the show, things like that. But then,
like before I used to go to psychic it's like,
you know, at a carnival before any of this stuff,
because I was always curious about it. And they'll go,
you have a brother, No, I don't. You have a sister?
No sisters? You have someone with the name.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
S T.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
You like and that, And You're like, dude, seriously, like
this is such a hustle. Why are you doing this?
You can feel it, you could feel the difference the
cold reading. But then I've had cold reading with a
guest who are professional psychics and they'll just go, yeah,
this happened to you when you were this age, this
happened to their, your wife, It is like this, your son,

(53:10):
your daughter, your daughters are like this, your mom did
this and this and this, and is this happening to
you right now? And you know, I'm like, what is
happening you? Guse you can feel it because and I'm
also very conscious about what I say on the show,
of course, so if this is if there's information out there,
they'll go oh this or that. No, no, they they
nail it.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
And a lot of times I've had mediums who tell
me your grandma's here or your this relative is here,
and I'm.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Like, okay, let's play this. I want to see what
this is. And they'll just start rattling off what they
look like, who they are, what their personality is. Nobody
knows this. I know nobody knows this. So there's from
someone who's a very practical I'm a pretty grounded, practical guy,
you know, And I call a spae to spae just
like I'm like, so collect the federation, let's talk, you

(54:00):
know that kind of stuff. I want to point these
things out because I promise you if I'm pointing it out,
someone's thinking about it, who's watching, so I want to
put it out in there. I'm like, no, let's talk
about this because a lot of times I've seen people
interview people like yourself or channels, and they don't ask
the obvious question, do you think you were crazy when
you heard a voice? Would that be the first question

(54:20):
you would have?

Speaker 4 (54:22):
Jesus, how did you feel when you saw Jesus in
the garden? Did you think you were losing your mind?

Speaker 3 (54:27):
Or?

Speaker 4 (54:27):
And then I point these out because it's something that
I want people to understand, sure, because that's the first
thing that pops in their head.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Well, let's also be human beings, because that's what and
let's let's not pretend that spiritual is some sort of
fantasized elite version of being human that like, the whole
purpose is to realize the totality of your being and
to personify it in your human being. This and so

(54:57):
you know, that's really important. Like when I meet so
you know, when I'm out in public, I get recognized
a lot, which is very humbling and I love that.
And a lot of times when people will meet me,
they'll say, can.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
I say something to you?

Speaker 3 (55:11):
I'm sure whatever they go. I didn't expect you to
be so normal because.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
I was floating a second ago.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Well if you if you better a second ago it.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Was water I made into a wine.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
It was a nice egg, it was a pino neever
that is. No, no, that is, and I'll tell you
what happened with me. So I remember when I first
started teaching, and I was really like, Okay, I'm doing this.
I'm channeling a send of masters. And I didn't have

(55:47):
like a spiritual ego that like hurt people like it
what But but in myself I started to notice, Oh,
I think I have a spiritual ego, like when I
first started doing this work. And the way I started
to recognize this was I was under the impression in
the very early stages that if we weren't having a

(56:08):
spiritual conversation, it wasn't deep. And then I realized, oh,
I'm really into spirituality.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
I found the thing in life.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
I'm really talented that and I need to stay in
my wheelhouse to feel worthy in the presence of another person.
And if I'm not dumpster diving into my emotional process
in the presence of someone else, or if I'm not
having a conversation about chakras and stuff. Sure, this must
just be superficial human And I actually had to check myself.

(56:43):
And what I realized was was how often that I
would use my abilities to pitch myself because I didn't
feel worthy just being who I was. And I went
through this really incredible after all these awakenings, I went
through this integration phase where it felt like the universe
was how did I describe it? It felt like it
was scrubbing the stench of spirituality out of me and

(57:06):
helping me really tuck it in so that if I'm
around someone who's energetically attune, they can feel and they
can sense. But if but if you don't have that
sense yet, I'm just gonna be the most polite, maybe
funny guy, and I'll say insightful things if it needs
to be. But I challenged myself because I would fly

(57:27):
a lot, you know, going to events, and I would
challenge myself, Okay, if I meant to talk about what
I do for a living, then God will dress up
as a person who will ask me about it. And
I challenged myself to be the human being that I
kind of forgot I was, and I had to bring
it all back and integrate it. And I think because

(57:49):
I know, because my teachings have always been an inner
mingling of wisdom and love. It helped me integrate back
to human beingness that I momentarily lost sight of. And
it helped me always be aware of humility as one
of the most powerful forces in existence.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
And it's through the.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Humility and the love and that is woven into the
wisdom my channel that helps make the most profound, healing
breakthroughs for people that I serve, and it allows me
as a person like I've been around intuitives who say, Matt,
I just got to deliver this message. And I can

(58:36):
respect that, But that's a stage I grew out of.
I am intuitive all the time for what the universe
is telling me about my experience. I won't be intuitive
about you unless we are consenting.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
That's where we're working.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
So the lottery tickets next.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
Week, ye, yes, Alex. Also, if you may, I'm getting
I'm getting the initials of a relative somewhere between A
and Z. Do you know anyone who has.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Five to eighty five and it could be a man
or woman.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Yes, And I'm giving that they live somewhere a d.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Ad, they've lived at a point ad after after.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Christ's right, which I think you might remember.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
But oh, brother, is there anything else you'd like to
say to the audience, any parting messages.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
You like, Oh my god, God, this has been so fun.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
It's I mean, we could talk for another four hours.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Well, you know, we're at a point in history where
a lot of the old paradigm is falling apart. Yes,
we're watching the deconstruction of ego structures, corporate egos, political egos, collective.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Egos, religious egos.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
And in ourselves. And I think that the most important
thing to remember is yes, we're here, Yes we're awakening.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Yes the world is ascending.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
But we're not.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Leaving our humanity behind. We're not trading up. We're not
trading in an ego and trading up for a spiritual ego.
We are learning to become living vessels of spirit, and
we're learning to be an open window through which the
light of spirit can enter this world. And it's the
love we offer ourselves that becomes the love we're willing

(01:00:40):
to offer another. And we're at a point of history
where love is not about reward and punishment. Love equally
is necessary to heal victims and predators. Everyone has to
be transformed for these cycles to break, and how you
treat yourself in private is the greatest likelihood of how
you'll treat others in public. So, as an example, if

(01:01:03):
you are someone who's really hardcore in to meditation, which
is totally fine, that will usually create an opportunity to
be a little bit distant, socially awkward, avoidant, or aloof
because how you meditate in private becomes how you engage
the world publicly. If you love yourself privately, if you

(01:01:24):
accept yourself and love yourself. I don't like how this feels,
but this part's here to be loved. How you practice
treating yourself privately will become how you engage the world publicly,
and it will create the versions of people that you attract.
And so if that's how the universe works, then if

(01:01:50):
we want to really heal, really awaken, and really help
this world ascend into the heaven and earth it already
is in a quantum reality, what we are all deciding
right now is not whether this happens, it's what timeline
we take and how director are we going to get there?
And what speeds up the fabric of time. The fourth
dimension is when I'm alone, can I and will I

(01:02:16):
learn how to authentically love myself? And will I then
celebrate the love that I find in myself, and will
I pass that along as gifts to others, as my
contribution for the world I'm helping to ascend when we
get to that point, an interview like what we're doing

(01:02:37):
right now, if someone walks away from this interview feeling
more connected themselves, feeling more excited about loving themselves, and
feeling a deeper connection to something that they've always known
was there but they couldn't put their finger on, then
we have succeeded. And that's why people who know that

(01:03:00):
I channel Okay, But whatever, all I care about is
that when I leave this planet, I'm leaving it far
more loving and heart centered than when I arrived here.
And at this point in my career and my journey,
the only thing that matters to me and my wife,
of course, our marriage, our newborn puppy, all these beautiful things.

(01:03:22):
But what matters to us is our connection and walk
with spirit, and that's the work that we're offering to
the world is now is the time to reconnect with spirit.
Now is the time to remember that not AI, but
consciousness is the most reliable technology, and instead of relying

(01:03:43):
on our devices, let's remember who we are as multi
dimensional beings. Again, AI as a purpose, But we're really
at a point in time where this is where humanity
remembers who it is, and it begins by each person
watching this walking away with more of a felt sense

(01:04:07):
of who they are. And that's the greatest intention I
have for everything that I do, is that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
It's not.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
About who someone thinks I am. It's my ability to
help them have a clear understanding of who they are.

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
Couldn't have put it better myself, sir. Where can people
find out more about you and the amazing work you're.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Doing in the world. Well, well, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
By the way, my website's matt con dot org m
A T T K a h N dot org. If
you sign up for the free newsletter we send out,
we also send you a link to our free documentary
that was created. It's it's a documentary that you literally
experienced healing while you watch it. And I think actually
the u r L for that is Matt con dot

(01:04:58):
org slash love and it's a free documentary that we
created as a gift for the world. And you know,
you can check out out the upcoming events that I'm doing,
my wife and I are doing together.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
And really, you know, this is just.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
It's time for the world to reconnect as one. And
whether we're spiritual beings not spiritual beings, however we identify
ourselves to be, we're all included. We all have a
vital role in this ascension and we literally need the
light and the power of every individual to help this

(01:05:36):
world evolve.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
And so.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
It's incredible when you know, the spiritual community used to
be these like little fringe groups, but the most intentional
spiritual community is Earth because we're all spirit and so
it's a beautiful thing to start even just watching the
beginning stages of this intentional community remember itself.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
And if I can end on this, sir, can we
make hashtag sniff chef a thing?

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Sniff chef. Yes, yeah, I'm one of those sniffer chefs.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
That's how I feel what I say. Channel, I'm one
of those channels. I'm one of those channels.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Sniff channel.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
You're a sniff channel. Hashtag sniff channel. It's a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
Let's make it a thing. Everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
It's a thing now.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Brother, you're like a brother from another mother. I appreciate
you so much for coming man, appreciate you much.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Love.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
I like to think Matt so much for coming on
the show and sharing his knowledge and wisdom with all
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