NLS 575: Psychic REVEALS Alex's PAST LIFE in Prison; Humanity's KARMA & RECKONING in 2025! with Ainslie MacLeod

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Michael le flem And Michael is an expert in the
Legend of Atlantis. Now Today, on the show we welcome

(01:24):
Ainsley McLeod. Ainsley is a psychic medium who was an
atheist before going into the world of spirituality, which is
a fascinating story, but where he really focuses on is
past lives and humanity's karma. We had a fantastic conversation
about this, something I have really never touched on the

(01:45):
show in this way before. So let's dive in. I'd
like to welcome this show Ainsley McLoud.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
How are you doing, Eisley? I am doing great. Thank
you very much, Ali, Thank you so much for coming
to to next allso studios. I appreciate it. Delighted to
be here.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
I've been looking forward to our conversation. We've had a
few people who talk about past lives and how to
deal with the trauma and heal and all that stuff,
but not a whole lot, and definitely no one I
think of your depth in that space. Your book, The
Old Soul's Guidebook. We're going to talk about old souls.
We're going to talk about all these things, because that's
a term that gets thrown around a lot.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Certainly does.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
But my first question to you is what was your
life like before this insanity of being a psyched, right,
a psychic.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
I mean it was like, yeah, there's kind of like
my life before my life after hi exactly. So you know,
people have asked me this a lot, you know, you know,
when did you know you were psychic? And it really
wasn't until my early forties that I had a couple
of major epiphanies. But up until that point I was

(02:54):
a total non believer. I considered myself to be an atheist.
I had no time for any kind of you know,
woo woo stuff or you know, religion or spiritual stuff.
And it the only weird thing was that I was
drawn to psychics. I saw my first psychic at the

(03:14):
age of twenty seven, and I told myself I was
going to going there to debunk her. And then I
came out with my hair standing on the end and going,
oh the hell did you know all that? You know,
she'd be following me around. And then after that, I
kept encountering psychics and you know, in public places, and

(03:34):
they would come up to me and it was always
the same kind of message, you know, and sometimes very
little bit embarrassed, you know, but they'd say, well, you know,
I'm psychic and you are, and you should be doing
something with it. My spirit guides are telling me. But
at that time, I was God, you know, people are crazy,
you know in a way. Oh again, if I you know,
if I could go back in time, I'd love to

(03:57):
have had deeper conversations with these people. But I kind
of just dismissed it. And but you know, looking back,
I mean, I was a a musician and illustrator for years.
I started off, I went to art school, got into
advertising as an art director, became an illustrator, played music

(04:19):
on the side, and I had a you know, very
very full life, and I didn't have a lot of
contemplative time. You know. I kept herself busy, yeah, you know,
and and and there was always something going on. And
but I did learn to meditate. I was probably about thirty.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
So you're you're an atheist meditator.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, that's oh, I mean absolutely, It's.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Very interesting, yeh, because generally it's almost like your brain
was fighting what your soul was telling it.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Cognitive dissonance. Yes, it is completely yeah, because it was
like two things happening, you know, Like I considered myself
to be a non believer, but also I'm really drawn
to psydchicks. And were you raised religious? I mean, you're
you're Scottish, right, Scottish. You know, we were sort of
like passively Presbyterian. I guess actually I was. I was

(05:17):
about five years old when I told my dad I
didn't want to go to Sunday school anymore. I didn't
buy that whole thing, and you know, and I was
very surprised at the time that he went okay, because.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
He wasn't buying it either.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Well, no, he was. He was the son of a minister.
But also if I didn't go to Sunday school on
a Sunday, he got an extra hour in bed, so
he didn't put up.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Dads are dads no matter what generation.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Absolutely, you know, I saw being a dad myself. You know,
I totally get it. So I just had this life
that was pretty chaotic and u and very busy and
very noisy and very dramatic relationships. It was. You know,
a part of my story is that I just always

(06:06):
seem to be encountering narcisists. Interesting. Yeah, I'm what my
spur guides that I work with would call a wounded mpath,
which is, you know, being empathic but carrying a lot
of past life fears and it makes you a target
for a narcsist. So I had a narcissistic father and
then narcissistic relationships, and when you're in those sort of situations,

(06:30):
there's never a dull moment. So you know, I was
in this world where you know, constantly I'm being shouted at.
You know, there's drama, there's yelling and stuff, and I
think it kept me from going to that deeper place.
Like I say, I did learn to meditate, and one

(06:50):
of the best things that I did actually went to
a like a weekend workshop. Otherwise I'd never have done it.
And that's that was a bit of a game changer
when I was finally able to still the mind and
body get some tranquility into my life, and I think
that probably helped. You know, I've had conversations with my

(07:13):
spur guides about why was I chosen? Because you know,
this is, this is this would not have been my choice.
I mean I called myself the reluctant psychic for a
long time because it was just you know, I mean,
why me and why this weird career path? I mean
I was drawn to it, but at the same time

(07:35):
feeling Unjesus, you know, why can't I be normal?

Speaker 1 (07:39):
It's interesting that a lot of people in the space
your story is not unique in that sense, Like a
lot of psychic's, a lot of channelers, especially when they
come from a different career path or were raised in
a certain way, or have certain programming in their head.
The why me aspect really comes into play. I well,

(08:01):
at first of all, when did you first have a
psychic experience to the point where you're like, oh, oh right,
row like, well, what was that?

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Well, you know, in retrospect looking back at my childhood
and so on. Once I started, you know, on the path,
on the psychic path, I could look back and then
make sense of things that had happened. But up until
that point, I never never once thought, oh, that's a
psychic experience. I saw ghosts of weird things happened, but

(08:36):
I just chalked it up to weird stuff happens, and.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
My ghosts you actually saw you How old were you
when you.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Well, the first one I was really aware of was
I was about seventeen. I was in the reference library
in my hometown of Aberdeen, and it, I mean, it
seems ridiculous, but I'm just sitting there, and uh, this
guy comes up. He's kind of like Humphrey Bogart, like,
you know, one of the sort of raincoats hat pulled

(09:06):
down over over that at all, but not not at all,
but his face was It sounds weird, but it's like indistinct, like.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Blurry almost face, almost faceless.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, yeah, it comes up, ask me for a light.
I mean, it's a library, but I didn't think twice.
And I was wearing this jacket I remember this, you know,
a very trendy maroon jacket that I had at the time,
and it had all these different pockets. So I'm kind
of like digging around looking for book of matches and
I smoked cigarettes back then, and I found found the matches,

(09:39):
and I where the heck's this guy gone? And you know, again,
with life being so busy and crazy, I didn't really
have any time to reflect on it or think about it.
So it was only really years later that I realized, oh,
that was an encounter with a ghost. At least when
I started working with spirit guides and they were saying, oh,

(10:01):
remember that thing that happened, Yeah, that was you seeing
a ghost. I said, well, why did he Why do
you want to talk to me, and he said, well,
because you're an EmPATH and you have psychic abilities, he
knew that you could see him. And that was that
was it. There was no you know, important message or anything.
It was just like, this guy can see me. You know.

(10:24):
It just made himself visible for a moment and then disappeared.
And only but let's say say, I never thought these
things were psychic in nature.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Just weird, just weird stuff happens. We'll be right back
after a word from our sponsor, and now back to
the show. So you were almost in denial. It sounds
like like like normal people, no offense. I would see

(10:54):
a ghost and freak the hell out, but you were
just like, I'm too busy, I got too many things
to do. I can't really focus on I.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Think it was it was just that. And people say,
weren't you scared? Not at all, you know, and I've had,
you know, a couple of other experiences. It's not like
I see ghosts all the time or anything.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
You don't see dead people, not really.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
You know, we have we have one in our house.
I mean, I'm aware of her presence, but yeah, I
could sort of like sometimes get a tiny little glimpse.
We know she's there, and we say I to her
every morning and good night and stuff. She hangs out
just outside the bathroom and she used to live there.
She just like likes us being there because we love

(11:33):
the home. It's just a nice little connection there. But
you know, I don't, I don't. I never found that
sort of thing scary. But I think it's partly because
I was just kind of you know, back in the
early days. These things happened, but I never really thought
much about, you know, what does this mean.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Or what So what moment was it that finally said, oh,
I'm actually.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Well yeah. The two things, so two kind of epiphanies
that happened. And the first one was I was coming
out of a very dramatic relationship and I moved from
the East Coast to I mean, I'd moved from Scotland
to London, to New York to Atlanta, and then I

(12:19):
bailed out and went to San Francisco. A friend's apartment
came up, So I'm there in a really quiet apartment
with peace and quiet for literally first time that I
could remember in my life. It as crazy as it sounds,
it was like it was like a feeling of relaxation,

(12:43):
Oh my gosh, tranquility, and I, you know, the whole
thing had been very stressful. And I looked at my
hands and they were kind of shaking, and I went, okay,
I need to meditate because I hadn't done this for years.
And I sat down the sofa, closed my eyes, took
a couple of deep breaths, and immediately heard a voice,

(13:05):
not in my hand, but in the room, the voice
of an English psychic who had had reading with ten
years before before. I so, I mean, I'd be in
the States for five years at that point, so it
was like that will been ten years before, no thoughts
about I mean, I always in the back of my
mind thought I'd end up in America, but I didn't

(13:28):
really know how. And I'm having this reading with this
old guy and he he says, oh, you're going to
end up in California, and I went, oh, God, went
there once. Didn't like it and it was situational, and
so he said, there's nothing you can do about it. Nothing. Well,
that voice came back in the room. You're going to

(13:53):
end up in California. There's nothing you can do about it,
and it you know, and I've told that story a lot,
and people go, were you were you frightened when you
heard that voice? I got. I got on my feet
and I'm dancing around the place, going, oh my god,
what the hell's happening? Am I going insane? Is it?
You know?

Speaker 1 (14:12):
As you would?

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, as a normal was what the help? You know?
So but that really got me started, because I did
nothing conscious to make this prediction come true. It was
just an awe, like a set of circumstances. But what
it got me thinking about was and reflecting on all

(14:35):
the things that psychics had told me that come true.
I mean a list of them that night. And but
the question I had was how do psychics do it?
Where does that information come from? So the next morning
I went to a metaphysical bookstore in San Francisco Fields Bookstore.

(14:55):
I came out with this great, big pile of books,
all different subjects, you know, the Buddhism, past lives, and
all sorts of things, and just read a book a
day for I guess a couple of months trying to
find the answer, you know, what's the source of this information?

(15:17):
How on earth could somebody from ten years before, with
such certainty know that this was going to happen, and
a hell of a lot of other things as well.
I counted I think it was about thirty four predictions
that I'd had from psychics, and of course the things
they told me, you know, warnings that I didn't pay
attention to, you know, the things.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
That yeah, I've been there, so yeah, it's like.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Do you think why didn't I listen to? Yeah? So
that was the first epiphany and it really got me interested,
got me on the path. About a year later, maybe less,
I was living in a house put in Sasolito, just
north of Francisco, and I again, it was tranquility I

(16:04):
was seeking, and it was like it was helping me
to I think, distress from literally decades of drama. And
I took a trip to Hawaii. I had a session
with a psychic and she said, oh, your your uncle's here.
He's he wants to work with you. And she was

(16:25):
maybe the third or four psychic who told me that
my uncle John was a spirit guide and wanted to
work with me. Now he had been a total non
believer like I've been, And my response was, ah, was
I kind of well, he's the last person I think
of as a spirit guide, and I did, do I

(16:46):
really believe in spirit guides? I'm not sure I do.
And you know, in the fact his name was John,
I was going, yeah, you know, everybody's got an uncle John,
you know, common name, you know, so I'm trying to
you know, it's almost like explain it away. But the
next thing, I'm in a bookstore and I felt, for

(17:09):
no reason on it, I felt like spacey.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
You know.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
I wasn't doing drug because I wasn't, you know, on
anything or whatever. I just was feeling really like in
a very altered state. And there's a couple of really
weird things that happened. One was I just went to
a bookshelf and I just pulled a book out a
random opened it up on a random page, and literally

(17:33):
down and there's the name of two of my parents'
closest friends. It's a story about how they their Scottish
they had helped some paranormal investigator check out a Scottish
ghost that was visiting some lady in the States. And
I'm going, that's weird. Put the book back, went round
the corner and ran into my uncle and he was

(17:56):
he was there, John, Uncle Jo.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
But he's been passed.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
He was dead, been dead for like ten years.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Oh so Uncle John was there. So he was there
in full.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
He was there for about one second, but three dimensional
and real. And I know it's hard to explain explain,
but he was more real than he'd been in my memory.
Oh yeah, if that makes make sense, perfect sense. It
was like, oh yeah, he actually was more like this
than maybe the whatever whatever. And he had a message

(18:31):
for me, and he wanted to work with me, and
it was quite it was a bit of a longer message.
He was there for about a second, just maybe about
eighteen inches away from me on the right side, and
then it's gone, but with a longer message about wanting
to work together and you know, talk to me. You know,
I'm here to help you and you're meant to be
doing this work. So when I went back to the

(18:55):
tranquility of the houseboat, I just went, well, I don't
really know how to go about doing this, but I
just sat down and went, okay, John, are you there.
And it wasn't like a voice exactly. And I still
can't explain exactly how I communicate with the other side

(19:17):
and ifact and it has morphed a little bit over
the years as well changed, or at least in the
early early months and years. It took a little bit
of a time to find the very best way of communicating.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
But it's.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
My spirit guys call it clear audience. But it's not
like the In fact, a guy who told me I
was going to end up in California, he literally had
a voice in his ear, and which I wish I had,
because I was so clear he would he would be going,
what what, Yes, I'll tell him, I'll tell him. It
was a freak show, but it was quite amazing. But

(19:59):
for me it was like a kind of knowing, and
I would get whole sentences.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
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Speaker 2 (20:15):
So I started talking to my uncle and very quickly
he passed me over to spirit guides on another level,
different level, and they're the ones that I work with now.
And so what I did after that was I I
spent three years practicing to a point where my spirit
guides are kind of looking at their watches and going,

(20:36):
is this guy ever gonna do readings for people? And
finally they sort of pushed me out to the nest
and started finding me clients I started reading people, and
the rest is history.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Say that's that's fascinating you you, it's so fascinating. How
many how many people, and this field they didn't want then,
They never had plans on it. It wasn't something some do,
but a lot of people are. I was the reluctant
spiritual podcasters is insane for me.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Well, I was the reluctant psychic. And I even tried
finding other terms. Spirit channeler was one of the intuitive list,
and that and and terms that were so vague. I
think people didn't know what the heck I was talking about.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
You got you got yourself out of work by your
marketing right exactly.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
And there was this one one thing that happened. I
was at a party and the host's father was there,
and he was he was deaf, and he says to me,
so what do you do for a living? And I
would mumble when people ask me that question, was like,
oh god, I can't believe they're doing it. And I

(21:53):
went psychic. He goes psychotherapist, and I'm going and no psychic,
psych trist And finally I go psychic and everybody in
the room, I mean listening in the movie, they're all
turning around records still laughing. Yeah, and that was a
moment where I just embraced it. And after that, when

(22:16):
people said what do you do? I go, I'm psychic
and what are the reactions? Well? That was interesting, Yeah,
it is because you get there's really two reactions that
I get. One is the oh my gosh, I want
to talk to you more. I had this amazing experience
or whatever, and the other one is they just stare

(22:36):
blankly like they don't know how to respond to it.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
It's almost like the programming in their head can't accept this.
They've heard of it, but they've never met another human
being who's actually doing this right. For a little I
get at a different level. I get something like that
with this, like what do you do for them? Like, well,
I tell them I run a media company now and
that kind of opens them.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Up a little bit.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
But then I'm then like, but what do you like?
You know, I have a podcast, and that for a
lot of people to like, how do you how do
you make a living? Like is that all you do?
Is just a lot? Because so many people have podcasts now,
but they don't get to this level, you know, So
for them it's a it's a weird. And I got
that when I was in the film industry. What do
you do? I'm a film director? What like like Spielberg?

(23:26):
I'm like, no, not like Spielberg. I wish, but not
exactly like Steven. But it so I've been getting those
kind of reactions throughout my life, so I kind of understand.
But now it's even like, what's your so oh your
pot what's your podcast about? I go? I talk to psychics,
I talked to channelers, I talked to quantum physicists, rocket scientists,

(23:48):
near death experiences. And then by throwing all that in,
you know, they're like, oh, it's very interesting, right, it's
a lot more open now than it was years ago.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Oh, I agree, things have changed rapidly. Yeah, it's much
easier to talk about it without people looking like you're
absolutely crazy. One thing I've done is I never try
to sell people on what I do. What happens if
I In the early days, I was so excited about
what I could do and the fact I'm talking to

(24:23):
invisible entities on another plane of existence, you know, I
wanted to share it with people. But what I found
was that if I tried to sell anybody on what
I was doing. My throat would close up, the throat
chakra would close up. I literally couldn't get the words out,
and so I spoke to my spirit guides about it,

(24:44):
and they just said, you're not here to sell anything,
just present what you do, tell stories, and if people
are interested, they'll come to you. So one thing that
I try to do is not avoid conversations with people

(25:06):
about it. You know, if they say what you do,
and I will talk about things like spirit guides, and
maybe that's new to them, but I try not to
pander to, you know, their level of understanding. You know,
maybe they think it's weird, but I don't anymore. I
mean I certainly did in the early days, but that's

(25:27):
my life. I talked to spirit guides, I explore past lives,
and I help people figure out their their present life
by understanding the past.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
So that's an interesting part of your work is that
you've really focused in on past lives. Yeah, that is
your niche within the psychic world. When you do readings,
it's always about past lives. Do you ever talk to
Uncle Bob when he's in the room, Like, if I'm
right near, is Uncle Bob behind me? You don't do
that work that's not accept.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
In the very very early days before I kind of
learned how to protect myself and stay on the one level.
I talked to causal plane spirit guides. In my early days,
I was working out of a shop for a while,
and every so often I'd be talking to somebody about
and I'd be trying to talk about their life purpose,

(26:18):
the bigger picture stuff, and suddenly Grandma would come in
from the astral plane and she'd go, I don't like
the color of the curtains, and the person's going, oh,
I knew she wouldn't like it, but and it was
fascinating and people were blown away, But it didn't interest
me at all. What really fascinated me is what I

(26:39):
do now and how past lives play into the present.
So that's where it started. When I I would be
reading somebody and then past life would come up, and
then more and more often until it really became my
stick is that it's you know, it's what I do.
So for example, when I'm reading somebody, now, if I

(27:03):
do a first session with someone, I get a past
life before we even talk, before meeting the person, and
then the fascinating thing to me is figuring out how
that's going to relate to the present life. So you know,
I might find somebody who was a dancer and a

(27:23):
past life but they broke a leg and they couldn't
do it any longer, and then find that that person
is a dancer in this life. You know, surprise, surprise,
that it's not really because they're making up for lost time,
the stuff they didn't get to do in the past life. So,
I mean, that's a bit of a mundane example, but

(27:44):
it just become a bigger and bigger part of what
I do. They where all of us affected by past
lives and ways that most of us don't understand. It's
not mainstream, No, it's definitely not.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
But one thing I want to this is the thing
that kind of blew my mind off when I first
heard the term, and I'd love to hear your perspective.
It's that you work in past lives. I've been told
that that there is no past life, there is no
future life, that all lives are happening at the same time.
If that is the case, First of all, do you

(28:19):
agree with that? And secondly, if that is the case,
how is how do we go like there's no linear
time on the other side obviously, so how does that work?

Speaker 2 (28:27):
And you're, yeah, explain it. It's not my understanding. I mean,
working with my spirit guides, they talk about, you know,
time being essentially linear. It is different on the other side,
which is why we can get precognition and so on.
But that idea of everything happening simultaneously is not something
my spirit guides would agree with. Okay, so my understanding

(28:50):
is that it is more. I mean, for example, people
who said, have you ever seen future lives and the
answer is no, I mean, they haven't happened.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yet, but you're able to see some part of the future.
Not future lives, but future future potential. Yeah, potential, and
that's a big key word. There is potential where a
lot of people who want to debunk psyekicks like, well
you weren't exactly like, well, there's still free will.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
That's it. Yeah, that's the that's the most important thing
that we have free will. You know, if some people
think that, you know, you hear people talking about everything
is meant to be, well, no, it's not. I mean.
And also that's fine if you're if you're you know,
you're saying that from your beach house in Malibu. But

(29:36):
you know, if you're I don't know, in a secret
prison being tortured or something, I don't think you're going
to feel like, yeah, this is just where I'm meant
to be right now, everything is you know, yeah, yeah, No,
stuff happens on the on the physical plane, and we
have free will, and that's a big part of what
we're here to do. If we came in and everything

(29:56):
was predestined, what would the point be. There would be
no growth. I need we just to be like a
train on a track. There's It would be.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
As boring as a video game that you knew what
was going to happen every single time, and there was
no challenge, there was no variation, nothing like that in
a variety. Why even play it's a boring game.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
It's exactly that. It would be a very boy. Yeah.
So we have I mean, we all have life plans
and that's a fascinating part of it all. That's what
I break down in sessions, the whole system that I
downloaded from my spirit guys. They call it the Instruction.
It's the title of my first book is It's a

(30:36):
way of looking at It's one hundred elements of your
or potentially undered elements of your life plan. Nobody would
have all hundred, but you can make a selection of
different things, like your personality is all chosen before you
come here, things like that, certain missions and so on.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
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Speaker 2 (31:03):
But it can it can all be understood in terms
of this system. And we all come here with with
like a kind of rough outline, but nothing is carved
in stone because you can take it in any direction
at all.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
But there are, to my understanding, soul plans, so blueprint,
soal contract, those are all kind of synonymous. Yeah, to
my understanding is that when you're making your soul plan,
that there are I call them mile markers in your life.
So like you're going to be born in Scotland, you're
going to be a male, You're going to be born
to these parents, Uh, you're going to have these opportunities

(31:41):
along the way, you're going to meet this person and
those kind of those are kind of those mile markers. Now,
how you get from mile marker one to mile marker seven,
that's truly up to you, and you could go completely
off the road. But but the farther you go off
the path, harder life becomes and things start to start

(32:02):
to try to knock you back.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Well, that's where your spirit guys come in, because they
try to knock you back on getting back.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
On track on the plan that you wanted as you.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Created on the astral plane. Yeah, so you could go.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Off like, oh, you know this life, I wasn't going
to deal with addiction, let's say, but I got into
Hollywood and all of a sudden, I tried a drug
and like, oh my god, I'm starting to go off.
That's when someone is going to try to put because
you're like, that's not what you're supposed to be doing here.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
That's it. But we have free choice.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
We can kind of go down those roads if you want.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah, well, I love what you're saying about mile markers.
I'm going to be using that because that's exactly how
it feels. There are certain major goals in each life
that are you know, usually things like partnership or work
that you want to do, but there's often many different

(32:53):
ways to get to that.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, exactly. So Like for me, like on my mind,
like I never really had a dream as a child
to be a filmmaker. I had a couple of indications
I liked movies, but there was a video store in
my neighborhood and that was my first job and I
was there for four years. If I wouldn't have had
that video store job, I don't know how long it
would have taken me to actually make the decision to
go into the film industry. Because when I went into

(33:17):
the film industry, it's not nearly as cool as it
is today, and there was no information. It was essentially
running away with the circus. So that was That's a
mile marker. I had to go through that process my
journey with the mob. That was fascinating, but that had
to be a moment that I had to go through
that that was I don't think that there was an

(33:37):
option for that.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
I think, I agree.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
I think at any moment I had the choice to
walk away, but I didn't.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
But that's the that's the point, because that's where the
free will comes in, because you have the choice when
because because nothing, it's not all carved in stone. So
you have these agreements with other souls, these experience to
that you want to have and they're going to help you.
You may help them, but things don't always work out.

(34:06):
You know, you might have an agreement to meet a
partner and then they turn up and they've got a
severe addiction or some kind of you know, developed some
kind of mental illness or something. It makes having a
relationship very, very difficulty. Yeah, well, the most the most

(34:27):
difficult one I come across, and my work is alcoholisms.
Like you know, now that you have this agreement you
come in that person's often blocked through alcohol abuse. You
know that it blocks the heart charker and even sometimes
the awareness that you have a deep spiritual connection with somebody,
you don't get the sense of that meeting. Yeah, and

(34:50):
so it can sometimes make the the agreement null and void.
So you know, yes, because just because something is is
part of your life plan and the intention is for
it to happen, doesn't mean that it comes with guarantees.
And I think particularly around soulmates. You know, you can
meet somebody and yeah, you had a deep soul agreement

(35:12):
for this to happen, but something's gone wrong along along
the way.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
We'll get you in the next one.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, but sometimes what happens, and I've done this myself,
where you try to fit this square peg into a
round hole because oh, I know there's the sole connection there,
so I should make it work. And when in fact,
probably the biggest lesson is to say, hey, this is
not going to work, I'll move on, because there's always
multiple alternatives as well to anything that you do. So

(35:44):
and things are really not working out. I mean because
I've had a lot of people I worked with have
been afraid to leave an abusive partner, say because they feel, well,
I'm meant to stick in this. You know there's some
lesson there, and I go. The lesson is not for
you to develop boundaries maybe or not allow yourself to
be abused.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
That should be the lesson, not I have.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
To somehow be abused for some mysterious reason.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
So when you came when we met it a little
while ago, when you came in, you said something that
was interesting to me that you actually asked your spirit
guides about me, and you did research I did for
before you came. I assume that's how you check all
podcasts that you go on. I'm like, let me just
check out who these guys are before I go down there.
You said it was a very fascinating reading. I have

(36:32):
really never on the show or anything like that ever
had any sort of like past life readings. And I
don't want to do a full reading or anything like that,
but I'm just curious what you came up with.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
I'll give you some of the highlights, Yeah, some highlights.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
And it also maybe is an example of what the
kind of work you do and kind of readings you
do well.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
One of the things that I always do is look
at the personality of the person that I'm working with.
You know, because who you are is why you're here.
You choose a personality for the for the journey. In
my book, I talk about how you wouldn't wear flip
flops to climb Mount Everest. You choose a personality for
the journey. I had interest.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
I never really thought oh yeah before yeah, because if
it wasn't for my personality, we wouldn't be doing what
we're doing. Like, there's a very just think.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Who you are draws you to certain experiences. Now, you're
a spiritual soul type like most of the people I
work with. You develop that through lifetimes actually as a
contemplative or a healer. But it doesn't mean that's what
you necessarily do in this life, but it will give
you an interest in spirituality. You have a primary influence
of a performer, which means that you've been you know,

(37:39):
you've been on stage in previous lifetime singer, dancer, actor, presenter, salesperson,
and that gives you people skills and part of the
journey for you. This is kind of going a little
bit off just the personality. There's a little bit more
to it. You're here to actually make an impact on

(38:03):
the world. You know you want to. You want to
make a splash, and you want you have to be
well known to be able to do that. And I
don't want to get too down in the weeds. But
one thing that you're here to well, it's an important
part for your life. Plans to make sure you don't

(38:24):
push away any kind of level of celebrity when it
comes along, like feeling maybe it's egotistical, they want to
be noticed or something. Because how you will have the
biggest impact in this world will be related to how
well known you become, So that performer in you always
wants the biggest bang for the buck. You know, if

(38:45):
you can reach five hundred people, how do you reach
five hundred thousand. It's always looking to maximize whatever you
do and avoid any any tendency to push away fame
when it comes your way as well. So and then
there's a few other things that show up in your
in your personality. One thing I really like is that

(39:07):
you've got the leader in you. You know, you've got
an air of authority, but you also have it coupled
with a caregiver influence, which is from taking care of
people in past life. So you've got a warmth and
you know, well, as I turned up here today, I
felt welcomed. I felt warmth. It's like, you know, you're

(39:30):
immediately just so charming and welcoming. And that's that. You know,
the heart that the caregivers associated with empathy and everything
around the heart chakra, a lot of it is actually
healing the heart chakra from trauma from past lives as well.
There is an interesting past life that you had, and

(39:52):
I got quite a bit of detail. I'll give you
the highlights of that if you want to. The past
life was in Spain during Franco's regime. Okay, so you
know during the year what years with the Franco regime
from thirty nine to sixty, so fifty nine or something like.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
That that we're talking about. Two thousand years ago or.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
No, we're not. We're talking about just recently twentieth century.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, I remember my Spanish history is a little foggy,
so please think. I'm like, is that Franco sounds familiar?

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Right?

Speaker 1 (40:25):
So that's what in the nineteen hundreds, Yes.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
So probably from around the beginning of World War two.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
To is that during their civil war? Yes, that's what
I thought.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Ok yea yeah, okay, yeah, So Franco was the fascist
leader assassin. You were a journalist or writer and you
wrote something about him or about corruption in his regime.
It put a target on your back.

Speaker 1 (40:49):

Speaker 2 (40:59):
You ended up being arrested and imprisoned. I even got
the prison that was. What was it called Model or
Model or something like that. It's it's in Barcelona. Interesting. Yes,
you're in Barcelona going there? This ye really so interesting

(41:19):
because you're going to feel something.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
I want to go, That's what I'm asking. I'll just
go just to see if I feel anything.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Oh, I guarantee it. Okay, Well, I'll get that as
soon as you get. So you while you were in prison,
you wrote a kind of memoir, but you wrote it
in Catalan, which apparently Franco was not very happy about

(41:46):
people speaking Catalan or Catalanese, I don't know what you
call it, but and and everything you wrote was destroyed
once you got I think you did something like two
or four years in a p and once you got out,
you you kind of allied with some trade union people.

(42:09):
But there was a couple of people who had been
in prison with you, and they thought you were maybe
an informant or something. You weren't, not all but you weren't.
But they actually beat you up, and as a result
of the beating, you died.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
In prison.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Is outside prison, maybe a couple of years after. And
so there are several things that come from us. One
is that anybody who's been in prisoned, at least for
long enough, will have a past life fear around powerlessness,
because when you're in the prison, you have no control
or no agency. So how it normally shows up in

(42:49):
this life is if somebody tries to control you, you
get that sort of equal and opposite reactionally, so it's
always associated with the phrase don't tell me what to do.
Oh but probably ask her missus about that.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Oh yeah, you could ask her about that. I have
a horrible relationship with authority, Yes, since I was a child,
of course, and one of the reasons why I literally
do everything on my own. I'm outside of the system.
I'm outside of I built my entire career outside of Hollywood,
even though I was invited in every once in a while,

(43:23):
but I would always be outside doing my own thing
because I could not have anyone tell me what did
like if someone tried to produce this show, they would
they would not go.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Far right, absolutely, And actually you touched on something that
is related to that past life. When you died, there
was a feeling of abandonment, rejection, and that can be anything.
When you you die on your own, it's off in
a battlefield type death. I'll see where this rejection comes in,
feeling of being abandoned by humanity or God if that's

(43:57):
your belief or or whatever. And you had that feeling
of rejection and abandonment, and when you have that in
this life, you're going to have a sense of being
an outsider or like you don't fully fit in. Then
you've got that issue with authority for terribly. All these reasons,
and another fascinating thing as well, I'd be really interested

(44:20):
to see how this shows up when you've had a
lifetime or very often bends. Not everybody would have this,
but when you've had a life where you've been imprisoned, incarcerated,
or enslaved, where there's a level of austerity. You know,
looking at four brick walls for twenty four hours every day,

(44:42):
there's no color, and there's no natural beauty and so on.
It leaves the soul craving that in future lifetimes. So
your soul wants to have beauty around it, whether it's
exposure to nature trees, plants, flowers, or it could be
art or color or something like that, but beauty to
make up for the austerity. It's like the karmic pendulum

(45:05):
swinging from one direction to another. So whether it's having
nice art on your walls. I noticed coming in. You know,
it's decorative. I mean, I wish people would see the
whole of this studio that we're in because it is beautiful.
I mean, look at this. You know, I rest my case,

(45:25):
but that's an important thing for you to have in
this life to make up for the absence of it
in the past life. And there's more. Yes, So when
you've been singled out for mistreatment like you were. It
creates the fear around self expression, and then what you
want to do to overcome that is that you want
to express your thoughts. You want to get things out

(45:50):
into the world. You want people to know where you
stand on things. That it's it's very important for your
your opinion to be heard and for you stand up
for your right to hold maybe views that are not
mainstream or or whatever. And i'd imagine that's something you
would kind of resonate with very much, quite strongly, pretty much.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Yeah. Another thing that came up from that life is
one of the lessons that you're learning, and it's very
much related to what you're doing this. This work is
about discernment, and it's about separating the week from the chaff,
like separate separating the authentic from the BS in a

(46:35):
world where there's a lot of the BS as well
as a lot of really great authentic stuff. But it's
learning to discern the difference to be able to then
help other people to do that.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
That makes perfect sense because a lot of people watch
the show and if they see somebody on the show,
they think automatically like, well, Alex did the research, and
he wouldn't let someone a Charlatan come on show. And
we do the best job we can, can I say
all five hundred and something episodes were knockout it apart,
probably not especially early on, but but nowadays we're really

(47:13):
My wife and I really, you know, put a guest
through the ringer before they come on, if you know,
And a lot of it's instinct. I trust her instinct,
and I trust my instinct, and I will be able
to like when you came across our our our computer screen.
She's always the first to look at it, and if

(47:33):
it passes her, then it gets to me. Generally a
lot of times it comes through me some magical way.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
It gets to me. That happened with a.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Bunch of great guests that we've had. But then I
looked at what you were doing, was like, oh, past lives. Interesting.
I haven't done a lot of that. And I go,
I always tell her the same thing, Get me a
give me a video clip, get me a video clip.
I just need to see them. I need to hear
them and I need to see them. And within five seconds,
I'll go, yep, No, it's just that it's literale. It's

(48:04):
that quick. It's not like this. It's not mental. It's
not you know, there's a little bit of mental, but
it's all feeling. And I'll look at them like yep
or something like Noope, don't know what's going on there,
but there's something there I don't like. Yeah, And that's
just the way. It's just unfortunately the way it is.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
So it's that's I did the same way. I'm assuming, Yeah,
you have these.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Powers I have. I don't know what I have, but
I listen to my instinct. And I've heard that from
other guests that though, because they get asked on the shows,
and not every podcast is equal, not be of size,
but just the way they approach things. And and I'm
assuming that they do homework on me. They'll either talk
to their spirit guides or they'll they'll tune in to

(48:43):
me and see what I'm actually about, and.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
We try to you know, we're here to help. Yeah,
we're here to help.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
That's really the bottom line. I want to shine whatever
light I'm able to create, to shine it on people
who are actually doing good work in the world.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Well, you know, I talked about you being a spiritual
soul type, and the important thing is that people benefit
from what you do in this life. That's where you
will get that weird sense of purpose. Plus you have
something called a desire for immortality, which is not about
living forever. You're glad to know usually.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
I mean I drink a green drink every morning, sir.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
But usually you know, when old souls hear that, they go, God,
I'm done, you know, Please don't tell them I'm going
to be stuck here forever.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
You're going to do like the whole Moses things.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
I can't, no, No, It just means you want to
leave a legacy or create a ripel effect in some way,
leave the world a better place for your having been here.
And the common ways of doing that are to write
a book, that's probably the most common. Then things like
making movies, recording music's another one. But these things that

(49:53):
leave a legacy, that's all. That's a big part of
what you're here to do as well, And that's our
nature motivation for you to do what you do.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Yeah, it's that's This is all very fascinating.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
And it's all in your life plan.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
It's part of it. There was a moment of the
y me scenario, like you had like why me, Why
am I going to do this work. That's a problem
a lot of people have in their own their own
self doubt because the programming that they've received is the
self worth is not there, the self love is not there.
They haven't connected internally yet with a lot of their

(50:26):
own stuff to accept ideas like this or accept missions
like this. I've been told what I'm supposed to be
doing a thousand times. We'll be right back after a
word from our sponsor, and now back to the show.

(50:47):
It was my first spirit guide. She's alive, she's been
on the show. She's very ornery, and she's She's one
of those people I've known since I was I've been
also like you always attracted the psychics, but cultural for us,
you know, since I'm Cuban, uh, it's in it's in
our blood. So I was always attracted the psychics. It
was always something my mom would take me to some

(51:08):
guy's house or some lady's house, or like we're having
a reading today, like all right, and then I would
completely be like, so, what's my future? And I was
very back in the day, very into like what's gonna happen.
It was very insecure about the future. I was always
like when am I gonna have this? When am I
gonna do that? When's when am I gonna find love?
And like all that kind of Oh.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
I was totally like that, Oh, I just you know,
I want to know what's happening next.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yeah, because I'm terrified now, I'm like, whatever it's coming
is coming, I'll just right away. Yeah, I'm a little
bit more chilled now. And the funny thing is that
I have I have a a rolodex. That's old. I
am uh have a rolodex. I'm showing my age, sir.
I'm sure I have a rolodex of some of the

(51:53):
top psychics, medium's channelers in the planet and relationships with them.
And I I don't think I've ever once called anyone
for a reading. It's just if they offer it, I'll
be like all right, cool, right, you know, like you did,
like You're like, oh cool. But I would never in
a million years call you. I'm like, listen, like, I

(52:14):
just I wouldn't do that. It's just weird.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
One of the reasons I would have thought is that
you are so much on track from from what I
was seeing. You know, some people I have to work with,
I have to haul them from way over there too,
you know, way over here. You're you're you're on track,
you know you're you're doing. I mean, there's lots of
different ways that you can express who you are, but

(52:37):
what you're doing right now is perfect. It's checking all
the boxes.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Appreciate that very much. Your book is called Old Soul's Guidebook.
The term old soul is thrown around.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
A lot, you know, a lot.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
I have one one child that was born and when
she came in, I was like, I just call her
the old lady. She's just this old Just my other
daughter's a little younger vibe of a soul.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Sure, I feel it.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
My wife does as well. But the other one is like,
literally like an old lady. Like she acts like an
old lady, she talks like an old lady, her point
of view on things. I'm like, what I mean? And
then I tell them, you know, you're an old soul,
like what you know. My favorite thing to do is
always tell them anytime they get angry at me or
angry at my wife or you know, doing parenting stuff,

(53:29):
that I go, hey, you choose me, and they're like,
we did it, choose you? It's just random.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Oh no, you know yeah, you choose your parents and
they choose you. It's all by agreement. And the big
question people will always ask is why or what was
I thinking?

Speaker 1 (53:51):
That must have been in a rush that day. That's
why my wife says to me all the time, Oh,
I must have been in a rush if I pitch you, well, we.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Don't always make the wisest choices, but you know, and
things don't always work out. But the reason that we
choose our parents, for example, can be to trigger issues
to be worked on. Of course, it's a tough way
to get the lessons, but your soul doesn't want to
continue to keep going through lives and not being able

(54:21):
to work through stuff, so sometimes it forces it a
little bit. You might be working through that fear of
rejection I talked about, so the person with that wants
to may want to trigger that to come more to
the surface, and by choosing maybe a family where the
parents are distracted or their mum doesn't really bond with you,

(54:42):
or something.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Like anyone born in generation act.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Yeah, that's exactly weird. Yeah, so then it brings all
fears come from past lives get triggered by experiences in
this life. But the cause is not this life. It's
always pre existing. That's why people react in very different
ways to trauma. You know. One, you know, let's say

(55:06):
siblings lose a parent. One sees it all about loss.
Another one could see it all about self esteem or
or abandon it. It depends on what's lying in the
in the past life. There's another thing about this, it's
it's it's actually related to very much to the work
that you do with that fear of rejection that you're

(55:28):
working through in this life. And I think every single
podcast that i've that's interviewed me in the last four
or five years since my since my last book came out,
has this You're you're trying to heal this fear of
rejection by creating community. It's by bringing people in. It's

(55:53):
it's one way to heal is to is to belong.
And if you can belong and you don't get rejected,
that's very very healing. But to be the uniter, to
be the person who's responsible for bringing people together, that's
an elevated way of healing. And it can be small
things like calling somebody to go for a cup of coffee,
or it can be big things like, well, we have

(56:16):
a membership community, for example, and it fulfills that purpose.
You know, we're healing our own issues by helping other
people come together and have a safe community or soul
world community where they can hang out and they can
share their journey and learn about their soul's purpose and
so on.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
That's beautiful. That's very beautiful.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
So what is an old soul? An old soul is
somebody who's been around the block a few times or
men many times.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
How many lives are we talking about, because that the number.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Of changes I know people have read.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
A hundreds or is it thousands or is it like fifteen,
like I've heard all sorts of things.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Most people I work with would have. Most people I
work with our old souls. The people who are going
to be interested in this work tend to be older souls,
so they've usually been on this planet for it could
be something like five six thousand years would be roughly
how long it takes to get to very much to
the end of the journey, and usually something right around

(57:20):
about one hundred and ten hundred and twenty lifetimes, although
it can be hard because generally your soul wouldn't count
lives where you never really got off the ground because
there's so much infant mortality back in the past or now.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
And that does when there is infant mortality, there is
something that the soul takes from that life.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Right of course, but it usually it would feel like
a failed life. The term's false start. Yes, yeah, like
you didn't get on track, you didn't get the chance
to do all the things that you'd really set out
to do because you didn't make it long enough. So
you know, usually then you'll want to come back and
complete thing. But yeah, so the actual number can be

(58:04):
I mean, it could could be two hundred plus if
you take into account the times that you didn't make
it beyond age two or something.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
So right now, currently our current system, what I was
taught in school, I'm sure what we were taught in
school there was about six thousand years old or so,
give or take. Humanity though we've been around for hundreds
of thousands of years. Where we are now, like we're
the Great Pyramids and all that kind of stuff was
around six thousand years ago. Though archaeological stuff is happening

(58:33):
now that you know, Kobeckley Tepe and all of these
other things are pushing our timeline farther and farther back
up toil fifteen to twenty thousand years and the younger driest,
and we can go down that road. But like the
I've heard many people talk about lifetimes in Atlantis, lifetimes
in Lumeria, uh, and even farther back. Did you have

(58:55):
you come across those.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Nope, No, none at all. My spirit guys won't go there.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
They don't go that far back.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
No, No, they won't go to that subject. So interesting. Yeah,
it's just like I've asked them about Atlantis. They go,
just this is not your thing, you know. It's just
you're not the first to say that too.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Because there was another there was another psychic medium I know,
good friend of mine, and she started to go down.
She just started questioning about uh, life on other planets,
which if you just look at the universe, logically, there's
something going on.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Oh yeah, and we can cut My spirit guys say
that people who think we're alone in the universe, it's
they say, it's a failure of imagination more than anything else.
I mean, just at the scale of the universe.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
I mean, the scale of the universe is so infinite.
You need to tell me where the ego are. It
is we're the only ones. Well, remember we used to
be the center of the universe and everything, everything, and
you know we figured that out right, But she started
going down there and her guides like, Nope, that is

(01:00:01):
not your lane. Get back absolutely on your lane. So
that's very interesting that you said that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Yeah, so it's things in my my spirit. Guys just
don't want me just I can't, I can't even answer.
Just don't want to talk about it. It's not your.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
It's not your brand, exactly. It's it's not your stick,
it's not your brand. And if you start going off,
it's gonna muddy the watery. You need to be very
focused on what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
It's exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Have you Have you ever come across past lives in
other incarnations that are not earthing? Nope, not no, it's
not so they're only going to work. So if I
come even if let's say I was a King Warlock
somewhere Sharlock in another planet somewhere, you know, an avatar.
I was in the Avatar planet. I'm a Navy somewhere

(01:00:49):
over there, and I had multiple lives as NAVI. We'll
be right back after a word from our sponsor, and
now back to the show. When I work with you,
it's only going to be earthling or earth based.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
That's all I get is that's all you come in
human And people ask about or do I I was
a dog in my last life or whatever? Right, No,
you've been human from the beginning to the end, and
that we we stay in this stay in our lane,
you know, we stay in our species. So that's all

(01:01:27):
I can tell you on that one. But you have
to go back to the old soul yeah thing, because
you know, we we we live in a world that
it's not always conducive to the happiness and wellbeing of
old souls.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Stop it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Shocking? Shocking, isn't it shocking?

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Also empaths not so not so good either, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
So you know what what I talk about is the
you know, the difference between young souls and old souls
and how this journey takes you. It takes you from
a place of me to we, you know, this self
self absorption, this very limited view of the world, to
recognizing that we're all connected, that we're all one. And

(01:02:14):
that becomes so much clearer when you get when just
because you've had all this experience, you've been in every
part of the world. You've you know, you've been male,
you be female, be poor, you've been rich, you've you know,
you've you've been all over the place and had all
these experiences. So when you get to the end of
the journey, wherever you look, there you go, you know,

(01:02:34):
you identify. It's like empathy. I mean, it's really the
journey can also be described as coming from fear to love,
and with love, it's empathy, compassion, and caring. Young souls
have still to get that, and unfortunately we we live
in a world where there's so many young souls in

(01:02:55):
positions of power, especially especially what's happening right now in
the States. It's I mean, it's it's kind of dispiriting,
of course, and it's very triggering for a lot of
old souls as well, especially ones who had with what's
happening now, you know, with an authoritarian president on this

(01:03:19):
rise of fascism.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
The world.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Yes, it's not just here, and it's triggering memories from
for a lot of old strings. Franco Stalin Hitler, you know,
all the oh yeah, mao, you know, so heh there's
been so much of that, and these old souls know
how dangerous this is. You know, what's happening politically in

(01:03:47):
the States is this is the difference between young souls,
young and old souls. Old souls tend to be much
more it's about the heart and it's connection with others.
So you know, they it hurts an old soul to
see people, you know, being marginalized or picked on because

(01:04:07):
of you know, like a trance or they're they're an
immigrant or the wrong color or whatever. You know, they
have different beliefs and so on, very very triggering because
it reminds them of their their own experience. But young souls, unfortunately,
they they see themselves and the other and it's all fear.

(01:04:33):
Everything is going on right now. It's massively fear based,
and it's a greed that we're seeing like like never before.
It's fear.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
But let me ask you any right now. I mean,
humanity is going through some stuff, there's no question about it.
And what you're talking about kind of leans itself into that.
You know. I talk a lot about what's happening to
humanity because it's important people need to understand because there's
a lot of confusion going on. The world's changing so
rapidly and a lot of things are a lot of
great things are happening in the world, no question, and

(01:05:06):
there's also a lot of negative things that are happening
in the world. Like you're just like you're describing. It
sounds to me that we are as a species, as
a collective, as a collective consciousness going through our own
karma and humanity is being not we've gone just like
we were talking about, we've gone off the highway that

(01:05:28):
we as a collective has agreed upon. Yes, we're it's
gone so far off now that the I always I
always say, is it's a whisper first, then it's a tap.
Then it's like hey, and the spirit guides are trying
to tell you got to get back until the sledgehammer comes.
We're in the sledgehammer era. We're getting sledgehammered left and
right in every walk of life.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
And as my spurit guys who say the world was
never meant to be this way, right, you know, it's
we we went off track a long time ago, thousands
of years ago, and and now we're kind of yeah,
we're you know, we're reaping what we we kind of sold.
But we are changing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
There isn't awakening.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Well, my second book is called The Transformation, and it's
about the shift and consciousness that's going on right now,
and it gets described in different ways. You know, most
people in the spiritual world will have some idea of
you know, they talk about, you know, awakening or whatever.
So what I got from talking to the spirit world

(01:06:31):
because what I always try to do is go back
to the source. You know, even if I gone I
think I got an inkling of how something works, I
always go back and talk to spirit guides and go key.
So what's what's all this about? So when I asked
them about this big shift, they call it the Transformation.
It turns out to be that we're going through something

(01:06:51):
as humans that we last went through about fifty five
thousand years ago, and that's when we got a shift
in the level of consciousness. We went from what's called
a stage to consciousness to stage three. Gives us much
more creativity, ability to freedom of thought, and the ability

(01:07:14):
to make more decisions. And it's really led us to
be the creatures of reason and creativity that we are now.
But we're actually going through another shift from stage three
to stage four and it's taking us all. I mean,
it will affect young souls to some extent. But what

(01:07:34):
we're seeing, and this has been going on for a while,
it's pushback. It's pushed back from these younger souls who
don't understand what's going on, and they're afraid of it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
And they're trying to hold onto the ways.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
They're trying to hold onto the power and the way
it has always been. It's this terrifying change that they're
seeing and they don't understand it. Part of the problem
is that. And it's not to say there's you know,
young soul bad had also good or anything, but it's
very hard for a lot of young souls to feel

(01:08:05):
empathy for those unlike themselves, which the source of racism, homophobia,
transphobia and all that. So it's all fear through lack
of understanding. So, you know, one thing that's just blew
me away. It was a quote from Elon Musk, who's
a a young soul. He's you know, in an inexperienced

(01:08:29):
young soul. He's also a narcissistic sociopath. I mean, it
just is, you know, I mean, I'm not being you know,
mean or unkind. He just happens to be. He's acting
completely from ego and fear, and you know, it's why
no amount of money is ever going to be enough
for him. It's all fear. And so he said something

(01:08:53):
the other day about he sees that the something like
the biggest challenge facing Western civilization is empathy. There's too
much of it. Well, he doesn't get it because he
lacks empathy, as a lot of people around him do.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
And the chainsaw.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Yeah, but they literally lacking that ability to identify with
other people, to be able to put himself put himself
into other people's shoes. And that's why you see this
level of cruelty, you know, just throwing people out of work,
or throwing people out of the country, or you know,
or even you know what's happening in Texas. You know,

(01:09:36):
lawmakers are trying to push through a bill to make
it literally illegal to be transgender. And as the father
of a transgender son, you know, I mean, I, of
course I have skinned in the game, as it were, But
as an old soul, I would be standing up for
transgender rights regardless because it's the right thing to do.

(01:10:00):
But younger souls, to them, it's the other and they
have to have somebody to focus on, somebody to hate
because it, it galvanizes, it brings them together, makes them
feel more cohesion. There has to be you know, the enemy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Will be right back after a word from our sponsor,

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Something that I actually wrote in my first book, The Instruction,
was about young souls and power. They get very drawn
to power. So they even in countries that are more
kind of old soul, they often have a younger soul
leadership because these are more ambitious, driven souls that end
up in these positions of authority. And what I said

(01:10:55):
was that young souls don't want to govern, they want
to rule. And the biggest enemy is not usually a
foreign country, it's the opposition party, if one is even
allowed to exist. And you'll see what's happening right now

(01:11:15):
is you know, the biggest enemy is to the current administration,
is the other side is here. It's not Russia or
well it's certainly not Russia, you know, or other countries
as much as the enemy within. But they need that
to feel that sense of differentiation and have an enemy

(01:11:37):
to bring them together.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
So but right now though, there is that awakening. Yeah,
there is something happening shows like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
This, Yes, I'd like to talk about something more bust.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
I got you No, no, I get you know. And
you know, it's important for people to understand the reasoning
why certain things are happening, and that there is an
awakening happening. There's just no doubt about it. I mean, yeah,
you know you thirty years ago, this doesn't happen. You're
not publicly talking about this, absolutely no. You're in the
back alley somewhere in a metaphysical bookshop doing readings because

(01:12:12):
that's the only place you could do it. Or you're
at someone's house and the only reason you get readings
about somebody I know, this guy you know, and that
kind of thing. Where nowadays it's very much on the open.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
And that is a total sign of this transformation.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Oh absolutely well, this show being as popular as it
is is a sign so totally. It's a sign that
there's something going on, and not just my show. Many
other shows are also very popular as well. Who are
doing you know, doing good work and getting the word
out and things, But these shows were not Some of
these shows have been around seven eight years and now

(01:12:46):
they're starting to flourish a little bit after doing it
for seven or eight, right, you know, we came on
three years ago and been able to do what we've
been able to do in that short amount of time.
So that says something that a filmmaker with no spiritual
background publicly at least could do what we're doing. So
there's absolutely, there's no doubt in my mind there's an

(01:13:07):
awakening happening where do you see humanities? Where humanity is
going to go? Have? Have your spirit guys told you like, Okay,
it's going to be a rough ride, hang on tight,
but you're going to be fine, or is it like, yeah,
you're you guys are out in about three years, so
like hopefully it's not the latter.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Yeah, well I'm you know, I gosh uh And.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
If it's not good news, I'll just edit this out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
I don't want to. I don't want to depress people.
But what we're going through right now is it's not
something that we're meant to go through. It's this is
it's an abiration, this is you know, it's gone horribly wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Soeping what you reaping what you sell? Yes, kind of And.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
You know, when I asked the Spurit guys about things
currently in the States, they described as a disaster. So
and there's no getting away from that. It is really horrible,
you know. I mean you just see that the cruelty
being inflicted on people, and maybe you haven't been affected personally,

(01:14:21):
you don't think it's such a big deal, but you
look at what's happening to other people who are being marginalized.
They're losing their livings, their home, they're and so on.
This is really it's horrible stuff and it's not going
to get better anytime soon. But what we as old
souls have to do is come together. This is the

(01:14:43):
really really important time. This is the time for cohesion,
for community, for being there for each other, and it's
it's an opportunity to really walk old soul va values.
We are all meant to walk paths as old souls. Well,

(01:15:04):
there's any soul we're meant to do a but particularly
as old souls, we're meant to walk the path of truth, freedom, peace, love, understanding,
equality and so on. There's ten paths. And we are
also meant to lead by example as well, to stay

(01:15:27):
in a heart centered place and be an example to others,
particularly younger souls, who need to see that sort of thing.
So there's never been a more important time for us
to come together, find our community, find our people, and
this is what you're doing. This is an amazing thing
you're doing to be able to bring people together with

(01:15:50):
fascinating stuff. Then they can learn from stuff that appeals
to older souls. Younger souls they're not going to I
don't think you will have many of them being drawn
to this kind of work, you know, like I mean,
they might be drawn to you, but they're going to
have pitchforks and flaming torches and you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Know I'm or two with those. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
But community, community, community, that is a really important thing
right now. That because you know, there's a lot of fear.
It's you know, it's been foisted on the old souls,
and as I said before, a lot of old souls
are being triggered. And the worst thing to do when
your fears like loss is a really big one, rejection.

(01:16:37):
The worst thing is to isolate. The best thing is
to find your people, feel that you're part of something
and so you're not going through the stuff alone.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
That's Yes, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
A big reason why we have our soul world community.
And you know, whether you know it or not, it's
a big reason why you're doing this.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Yeah, that's one of the reasons why we opened up
the Next Level Soul TV as a place to get
really clean, conscious movies and televisions and episodes and audiobooks
and things to help these souls along their path in
a way, because there just doesn't exist now. It might
exist more of this kind of stuff in the future, well, definitely,

(01:17:20):
with no question, but right now there is not a
whole lot out there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Well, you're kind of the Right Brothers stage.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
You're absolutely right. Yeah, I love that term, the right
brother stage. Yeah, we're just like soon everyone's going to
be on planes. Right now, we're building the first one,
you know, we're building one of the early ones. You know,
the same thing with the car Model T stage. You
know where at that stage right now, I wanted to
ask you about generational trauma. So two different, two different

(01:17:50):
roads here. So there's our own past lives, right, So
we have our own karma, We have our own fears
that we bring in from other lives, things like that.
And I have a funny story to tell you about
a fear of mind that it's not as fear. I
think I call it a healthy fear. It's not a
not a phobia, but it's a healthy fear, and then
there's generational trauma from your family line or your race line,

(01:18:15):
or your even your country's line of what happened to them.
So I wanted to talk about both of those, but
on a just a funny story of how I discovered this.
I was I was in Mexico and I was going
to Tijunizza and you know, to loom in those kind
of places. And I was in a site called Coba

(01:18:35):
and I was by myself, basically on a walk about.
You know, this is this is before I met my wife,
and I saw this pyramid and everyone's going up to
the top.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
I'm like, oh cool, And.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
I was like, you start climbing up the pyramid and
then about you know, three quarters of the way up
or something like that, I'm kind of like, I'm tired.
Let me just sit here on the step and turn.
The second I turned around, I had never been that
high in my life, and I was like, and I
just got I got real small. I got terrified, terrified,

(01:19:06):
and I just grabbed my camera. At the time, I
was like click, click click. I was here, I'm going down,
and I asked to the to the stairs. All the
way down, these ancient steps going all asked down. And
only years later I had a meditation where I had
a vision of I guess me at the top of

(01:19:29):
like a Mayan or as tact pyramid being sacrificed and
tossed off, and I was like, oh, that's why I'm
afraid of of heights and also terrified of being at
the top of a pyramid.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Yeah. The dreams or these visualizations that you can you
get are very often passed life related, and there's a
few things there. The fear of heights. Now, I had dreams.
I had a recurring dream when I was a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
I was Native American and I was on a cliff.
I climbed down a cliff to collect eggs, and I
found I couldn't get up and I couldn't get down,
and it was a feeling of like I'm going to
die and it's just a question of how long I
can hold on for but I can't. There's no way

(01:20:32):
to get out of this. And I never I felt
myself falling, but never felt myself hitting the ground. And
I don't know how many times I had that dream
and when I was able to talk to spirit guides,
it turned out that that was a real past life
that I had, and I always had a well in

(01:20:54):
the dream. It was an awful feeling of I mean,
with my whole body. Even even thinking about it now,
I can get a little bit of a visceral reaction,
almost like a tingling kind of feeling. And so this
happens with a lot of dreams that are there to

(01:21:16):
get your attention, show you stuff that needs to be
worked on. Heights can come from experiences like that, you know,
falling from a cliff or you know, being on the
top of a high structure like that. It can also
be things like being thrown off a horse and dying,
but that trauma stays with the soul. The trauma stays

(01:21:38):
with the soul. Now there's kind of two levels of it.
One is for something to show up as a fear,
it has to in the past life have taken you
off your life plan. It has to rise to that
level and maybe not even permanently, but at least for
a certain duration that you're And the other one is

(01:22:00):
that if it takes you directly to death, So.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Falling off a horse is not a big deal. If
you fall off, you get back on.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
So if you fall off, you're not hurt and you
get back on and you just sprained your ankle or something,
no big deal, that would never show up in a
future life. But if you fall off and you break
your neck and die, then you're going to have a
big fear of heights in the future. And horses, horses,
very very absolutely, no, absolutely, And there is one other
it's a little esoteric, but if you suddenly get evaporated,

(01:22:32):
you're on a battlefield and a shell goes off like
right there, and you're you're there one second and you're
dust the next, there's a disconnect, disconnection there with the
soul separated from the body and almost like it's not literal,
but it's got sort of left hanging. And that creates
a fear of heights. But I don't see that these

(01:22:55):
days really as much as things like having a fall
that would be much more common. And then of course,
you know, well, one interesting thing about that is that
I've worked with people who can't go up a ladder,
like two steps on the ladder and they're freaking out,
but they'll throw themselves out of a plane. They'll skydive,
although bungee jump because with every fear, the soul is

(01:23:18):
trying to get you to face it. It doesn't want
to sit there and keep having it. So and that's
why people get a exhilaration from doing something like bungee jumping,
because there is so much fear, but they are also
conquering it, so it feels like once they do it
and they survive, it's it's exciting because they've overcome something

(01:23:40):
really big. If you have no fear of heights, it's
not quite and it's going to be the same thing.
So that's where it comes from. Death related fears. My
spirit guys refer to them as phobias. And actually going
to give you a story. I put this in my
in my last book and I was just thinking about

(01:24:02):
it yesterday because the the person involved is a is
a podcaster from here in Texas and I know a
few of them right and carry is her name, and
she's allowed me to write about her something She's happy
for me to use her name. Usually I change people

(01:24:22):
people I changed names for privacy, but so Carrie, she
has had a stutter, a very noticeable stutter, and when
I was doing a reading for her, I found a
past life where she had been. It was in France.

(01:24:49):
It wasn't the time of the revolution, but I think
it was maybe a bit before that. And I can't
remember now why she was. She got into some trouble,
but she she got beheaded on her way to the
guiltem She was ridiculed people are you know the streets
start throwing stuff, Yeah, tomatoes, hearing and and this stayed

(01:25:10):
with the soul. It's this kind of ridicule it was.
It's related to a fear of judgment and also self
expression throat chakra issues or self expression, and so she

(01:25:31):
lost lost her head. Actually interesting people who have been beheaded.
It's a little bit more common than you might think.
It was very common for you execution all over Europe
until very recently and other places. So I do come
across it from time to time. It always relates to
almost almost relates to neck and shoulder issues. And I

(01:25:53):
literally had a client whose twenty years of chronic pain
neck and shoulder pain disappeared as I'm telling her about
the past where she got beheaded. But I digress. It's
the ADHD. So one thing that happened as well to
carry was that just like when she was arrested in

(01:26:13):
that life. They it's like a rifle button her foot
just to stop her from running away or something, you know,
broke some bones in her food that shows up as
a some kind of injury. In this life, she's always
had an issue there, but we all for past life
years to come up. There's a trigger, and her trigger

(01:26:34):
was going to school. And so like age five, she said,
she came back from from school with a stutter. And
it was probably something like, you know, feeling judged by
the teacher or maybe judged by other students, but it
created that that fear that came up. And and I
actually said to her, according to my spur guys, I

(01:26:56):
actually cringe sometimes when my spur guys do this. I mean,
they're always right, but when they say when they give
a promise link in her case, they said, next time
you go in front of a microphone, your stutter will
be gone. And this isn't any kind of mind over
matter thing, it's just, you know, it's because of this
is how it works. We'll get reminded of what happens

(01:27:17):
in the past and it clears out these blocks. So
because she was doing a podcast next day, she's in
front of a microphone and her stutter gone, It's gone,
just like that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
I've heard the I've heard stories like, so, if you
were shot in the battlefield in the back in this life,
you will have a bowl a mole there or something
like that. There was another one I heard of past
life where it was a Viking or I think it
was a Scottish. I think it was a Scottish, redheaded,
Scottish giant kind of dude and he got asked in

(01:27:52):
the shoulder, yeah, and he and that this life, that
person had bad shoulder injury. Like he just nothing ever
happened to him, just always was pain.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
You can you can spot different places in the body,
you know, based on what happened that at the time
of death where the injury was. Uh, a lot of
right handed swordsmen or X men coming down on the
left side, absolutely so, a lot of left side shoulder

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stuff I see, or neck issues, stabbing or being shot
in the abdomen that will create could be anything from
ibs to crones. Yeah. Well, I haven't been able to
I'm gone to see theacent I've talked about this. I've
not been able to cure myself. But I have. I've

(01:28:45):
got several clients who have blown through crones as a
result of doing the past life work. SISIs seems to
be very much related to past life. I've had a
few clients who've got over that. In each case, it
takes roughly from the soul being reminded about the past life,

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something like maybe about a month.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
And just and it's also just letting the soul letting go.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
Yeah, it's the moment the soul well, the soul can't
separate one life from the rest because of well, it
doesn't die between lives.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
So you might bring in all of it with you,
all the bagg it's.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
All being carried with you. Now it stretches off into
the past and further back the fears that usually the
you know and get forgotten about it. I don't they fade,
you know, or they get worked through. So I don't
usually look at past lives more than maybe two or
three hundred years back. Occasionally older if a big, you know,

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a big triggers happened.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
So in my Roman life or my Egyptian life, and
I was behead and I beheaded in Rome, but you
know some sort of horrible you know, eating alive by
beetles in Egypt or something like that. Hence, anytime I
go to the to the zoo and I go into
the beetles section, I'll go I have a terrified thing,
while other people just play with a beetle or play

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with a snake or something like that and have any
any issue whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
The interesting thing about snakes, I mean that we have
an innate, visceral fear and snakes for for very very
obvious reasons. Same with fire, you know it's for obvious reasons.
So spiders as well. And it's to spiders and snakes.
It's to do with the puncturing of the skin. It's

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those little fangs getting into skin. And so often people
who pass out when they give blood or they get
an injection, it's the puncturing the skin. The soul goes,
oh my god, we're going to die, and they keel over.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
It's related to snake bite. For dying by snake bite
or spider bite in a past life, and so can you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
In this life. So let's say I have a trauma
in this life. So when I was younger, I was
I was in the hospital for a little while and
I had constant blood work done every day, and I'd
never had a problem with it before. Ever, I didn't
bother but because I kept sending in these students who
had no idea how to find a vein, I was
basically just being punctured constantly. And then I don't have

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a fear of needles by any stretch. I don't particularly
like them, but I've gotten kind of over it, Like
I mean, like it is what it is, you know,
unless like and I always make sure, like how long
you've you been doing this? Can you find a vain
like I already I could talk to the person you
know in the in the within a lifetime. Can you
work through a trauma?

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
Well absolutely, you know, because well you always want to
find out what happened in the past. Like I said,
you know that you really have to skip back, you know,
a life or several to find whatever the original causes.
And what we're talking about here is that with any
any past life issue that's triggered, it's where you get

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a reaction that's maybe be a little bit abnormal, it's
a little bit above average. So what you're talking about
is I think anyone who's poked and prodded it's going
to have an issue, but it's not going to probably
end up in a complete phobia unless you had something
in the past life like I say, look snake bite
or spider bite or something, or for the puncturing the

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skin is associating death and in that case you would
have to die, yes for.

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
It to continue toward.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
So the other question had when we spoke about before
is generational trauma. How what is your understanding of like
your own bloodline, why you incarnate into this family line
and dealing with trauma. So like let's say you know
Uncle Bob, Bob's father, Uncle Bob's father and grandfather and

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so on. We're all alcoholics and there was a lot
of abuse in that line, in that family line. But
when they get to him, Uncle Bob like, I'm stopping this,
there's no more, I'm not going to drink, I'm not
going to do it, and I stop this trauma. Heal
this trauma for the family line.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
Is that makes sense that that happens, And actually it's
something I think you might have done. One thing I
didn't mention about the little reading that I did for
you is that you have. There are ten missions for
each lifetime. The missions are just to wait to give
a focus, and people will choose usually anywhere between five

(01:33:45):
and eight. Maybe so I have ten, No, well, but
the one I looked at. I couldn't tell you all
of them. But what I looked at is it's a
mission of love, and a mission of love is you
don't need a mission of love to be loving. What
it does. It's about healing the heart chakra and also

(01:34:06):
keeping the heart chakra open even when you're being triggered
or the trauma or something going on. The reason people
choose the mission of love is usually to heal from
a past life of something like rape or sexual abuse
in a past life where the soul is shut down
the heart chakra. It does this to try and protect

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you when you're going through something traumatic. That's why people
have out of body experiences sometimes when they're going through
trauma or they become numb, they're disconnecting. If they don't
get the chance to reconnect the whole mind, body and
spirit thing and heal the heart chokra in the past life,

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then they'll do it in this life. And choosing a
mission of love helps to it helps to do that.
So there will be some trauma like that in your past.
You have the mission of love, and a lot of
times a sort of well like it's one hundred percent
the past life things the reason it choos it, but
maybe something like eighty percent of the time what I

(01:35:10):
see is somebody choosing a mission of love as well
to help with not getting enough love in this life
from the parents or whoever's charged with taking care of them,
or it can be to stop that generational trauma. It
stops with me right likely because it prevents you from

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becoming embittered very often if you are you know, mistreated
or you don't get the love that you want in
this life. But it will also help to stop reacting
the same way. You know, it's been handed down through generations,
and you'll be the one that goes, no, we're going
to do things differently. We're going to you know, and

(01:35:51):
particularly coming from a more loving place. So that's a
common thing to see in families. It's like it's it
stops now with me, the old soul. I'm coming here
in here to heal something otherwise would be continuing on.

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
Have you heard the the concept of the ascended master
of that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
You've heard of this, I've heard of it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
Yeah, like these these these these beings are ascended masters.
To my understanding, I was I read this, I think
in Autobiography of a Yogi Yoga Nanda Uh stated that
when a soul reaches enlightenment for better better word, or
breaks free from having to come down here again, like

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the soul has evolved to a certain level. Once that
soul does that, it a rasis karma for generations back,
like it just cleans everything out for that line of
souls that have been in the soul group or something
along those lines. First of you've ever heard anything like that?
And then secondly, let's talk a little bit about karma

(01:36:57):
from your.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
Well, I can't really talk about again, It's one of
those things that the spirit guides are not, you know,
so I've got nothing I can really say about. You know,
I just don't you stay in your lane?

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
I like, exactly you stay in lane. I mean I
could conjecture, you know, but that makes sense, doesn't make sense,
doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
But yeah, but but karma, No, I mean I talk
about this all the time. You know something, something my
spirit guides are are always talking about. The the first
thing they always talk about karma is that it's not punishment,
because there is that idea that you're being punished. Yeah,

(01:37:40):
that's right, absolutely, And it's not karma is it's about
really balancing one experience with something else. So you know,
for example, if if you were I'll take an extreme example,
but if you were a mass murderer in the past.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
I like you. I like to pick on Kanetz Khan. Well,
he's a very famous one.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
Oh my god, I'm not sure if you'd have enough
lives to clear the karmaut.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
I mean, we could talk about that as well, Like
these these people in history Hitler and Genghis Khan and
Mao and and all of these and some that we
don't even heard of but killed millions and millions of people.
How does that balance out?

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
But go ahead, Well, you see, people have an idea
that you kill somebody in the past life and then
you'll make some agreement, you'll say, okay, in this life,
now you kill me, and will somehow balance it. But
it doesn't work that way because souls are the sort
of prime directive is I mean, it doesn't work in
practice necessarily like this, The prime directive is to treat

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others as you would like to be treated yourself, and
that would not involve murdering anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:38:53):
When people do urge very christ like exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
When people when people you know, murder there they're they're
acting from ego. No soul comes into this world with
the intention of hurting another soul.

Speaker 1 (01:39:04):
Babies are generally knocking each other off, exactly. I mean,
unless there's a block involved or a piece of gun
or something that they want. But even then murder is
generally not.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
Generally you usually feel pretty safe.

Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
It might be a slap or something, but that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
Yeah, like gun toting toddlers, they're not really a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
Well you are in Texas, but anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
I met me here, okay. Yeah. What's more likely that
will happen is that your soul will say, okay, well,
you know, I behave very badly in the past life,
and of course the soul will have a lot of
remorse about that. Even if the thing is happening, the
soul will be going, no, please stop, you know, trying
to get you to stop doing what you're doing. It's

(01:39:48):
going so against the green and its core values. So
then it will get to the astral plane and go oh,
I feel really bad about that, you know, and it
will one of the things that when you process your
life as you go to the astroplane, you feel what
you've inflicted on other people. It's how you learn. So

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you feel the hurts that you've imposed on others, on
the fear, the trauma, and so on, and it teaches
the soul like, oh, my god, that was an awful
thing to do.

Speaker 1 (01:40:18):
And we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
How do I make up for it? So you might
end up being a healer, doctor, or you know, or
finding some way to help humanity. You might be a
humanitarian because you did some petty stuff in the past. However,
you could also Let's say you're on a battlefield and

(01:40:50):
you get shot and your life is saved by a
like a mash unit and you know, a mobile hospital.
You might karmically feel grateful for them saving your life,
so then you become a healer or a humanitarian in
the next life. The point is that none of us

(01:41:11):
are supposed to know why people are doing this work.
It's their karma because we're not supposed to judge them
and go, oh, that person works for green peace or
an organization, So they must have been.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
Really something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
It could be just there. Maybe they were, you know,
lived in a very toxic part of the world, and
now they're wanting to do as a result of their experience,
they want to help others. So we're not supposed to
know why people are doing these things, but they just are.

Speaker 1 (01:41:52):
They're drawn to these these this work regardless. Can we
touch upon wealth and prosperity and abundance in lifetimes because
it's been we were talking a little bit about this
before we came on. It's like there is this myth

(01:42:12):
of like, if you're spiritual, you must be broke, you
have to be you know, penniless, you know, to do
the spiritual work, which is so counterintuitive, Like, well, if
you're going to do work that's going to affect large
and large and large amounts of people, you need resources,
even if they're given to you. I'm not saying you

(01:42:34):
have to a lot. I mean Yogananda had a beneficiary,
and many of these spiritual teachers have beneficiaries that are
able to amplify their message around the world. You can
see it around the world now. But there is this
idea that you cannot be wealthy or abundant in your
life and also do spiritual work. I'd love to hear

(01:42:55):
your point of view of that. In the past lives
and karmic example.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
Again, I mean a karmic thing about if you've experienced
extreme poverty in a past life. Actually, to clarify, if
you there's no karma if you come into a past
life and you're poor from beginning to end, you've chosen
that and so nothing, nothing went wrong experience.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
Because that is what you chose. That's an experience. If
you're constantly winning, it gets boring.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
Well, we're all going to choose, you know. That's the
thing about the soul when it's making these choices about
a lifetime, it's pragmatic. So what do I have to learn?
You know, if it was down to our egos, we'd
all be choosing to be billionaires.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
But that's but that's a life of materialism, so it's
not it's it's like all about that no money is
ever enough.

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
Oh yes, you know, well that's a fear of loss absolutely,
where for young souls, they're they're in fact, the more
money they often with young souls couldn't happen with old
souls too, if they're blocked. The more money you have,
the more they want to protect it. Now they've got
something they could lose.

Speaker 1 (01:44:04):
It's very funny you say that, because I've spoken to
people like financial advisors, and they they've spoken to me
about that. They're like, you know, I have a few
you know, billionaire clients, and they are terrified of losing that.
Let's say they have a billion, just one billion dollars.

(01:44:26):
For you and I to comprehend that kind of wealth
is so unfamed. It's just it's so insane for one
human being to have one billion dollars and to be
terrified of losing that. Where in all honesty, let's just
all honesty. After you get a house that's big enough,

(01:44:48):
What's how big is a house for two people? How
much space do you really need? How many cars do
you really need? How many jets do you really need?

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
How many boats?

Speaker 1 (01:44:58):
Like at a certain point, you know, after you hit
five million dollars, does your life change a whole lot?

Speaker 2 (01:45:05):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:45:06):
You know that's after you maybe a couple of million
dollars in the bank. You know a lot of people
listening like, oh my god, a couple of millions, But
let's just say you have a couple of million dollars.
Is your life going to change that drastically unless you
change it, like I have to wear design and clothes now,
I have to do this, I have to have this
kind of car have then yeah, of course. But at
a certain point, it's just numbers, right, right.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
But what's fascinating is that, you know, there's been you know,
any number of studies where where people who have talked about,
you know, after ten million you get taxed hundred percent
or something like that, you know that that should it
should max out and jung souls go, no, no, that's
that's that's crazy. You know, they'll never earn that money,

(01:45:48):
but there's the idea of the bank of the mind
that maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
They could or what's the American dreams?

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):
Yeah really yeah, yeah yeah, and yet I mean you
would be comfortable for the rest of your life.

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
Generation yeah, it's generational losses absolutely, ten million dollars if
you know what you're doing, even remotely your kids.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
So if you don't know what you're doing, it'd be
pretty hard to burn through through that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:13):
And I've seen some people I've worked in Hollywood, Well,
in Hollywood, you can burn ten million dollars in five seconds, Yes,
and have something that's worthless right at the end of it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
Yeah so, But in the main you know, yeah so,
but that is the fear of loss. And and you know,
I was saying, how you don't it doesn't get triggered
by having nothing in the past life. It's going from
one state to another. If you were comfortably middle class
or even just you could be relatively poor, but you
become completely homeless, something happens, you know, father goes bankrupt,

(01:46:50):
the entire family. They end up with nothing. That creates
the fear because you're going from one state to another.
And interestingly, a lot of people don't know they have
a fear of loss until they have something to lose.
Same thing like they with a billionaire. If you're broke
now you go, yeah, it doesn't show up and you're broke, right, interest.

Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
That's why people with lottery wins I did. I did
a documentary series years ago about that about lottery winners.
Most of them lose it all, absolutely self destructs. They
can't understand. They can't. They can't. They're not prepared to
handle that kind of energy in their life. Like if
a billion dollars showed up in my bank account tomorrow,

(01:47:32):
I would probably react very differently than someone who's very
used to having a billion dollars in their bank account.
They'll know what to do, where to do. I would
probably be very terrified and just kind of like, Okay,
let's just put this away, let me figure this out.

Speaker 2 (01:47:47):
Yes, let me take some time.

Speaker 1 (01:47:49):
Let me take some time, let's look at things. How
can but a lot of people get a billion dollars
like whooah, let's go. I'm gonna buy this manchin and
I'm gonna buy that gun. Then it's all starts.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
I can't remember if I put it in this book
or one of my books, or if I wrote about
it somewhere else. But there was a woman in England
back in the nineteen sixties, viv Richard's I think was
their name. She won like in the lottery or football
pools or whatever they had there. She won. I think
it was a million pounds, and which you know, allowing

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for inflation, was a heck of a lot more would
be a heck a lot more now.

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
The allien pounds still works today. By the way, Yeah,
you can buy a nice apartment in New York.

Speaker 2 (01:48:31):
She was not even actually a closet in New York.

Speaker 1 (01:48:34):
You can buy a closet New York for a million pounds.

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
She was asked by the press what she was going
to do with the money, and she famously said, I'm
going to spend, spend, spend. It was the headline in
all the papers, of course, and she did, and she
blew through the whole amount in just a couple of years,
right back down to zero. This is it's so funny
you bring this up, because I talked to clients about

(01:48:59):
this all the time. What do you have is it's
like a if you have a past life where you've
lost everything, then when you have the money, deep down,
what the fear tells the soul is that you're going
to lose it all as well, so you might as
well spend it and it becomes a race to the bottom.

(01:49:20):
I actually have a client who was given a million
dollar gift by her ex husband blew through it in
a couple of years. I think it was a very
short period of time. And the time I was trying
to explain this principle to her and she was going, yeah,
but I didn't know my investments were in going to
work out. But she was investing in foreign currency exchange,

(01:49:44):
very high risk stuff. Now, I mean occasionally you get
the people with the fear of loss much less common
where they're on top of every penny. They they've lost
it all before. Yeah, and the micro manage that, but
they're going to have stress constantly. Oh yeah, absolutely, I
mean I I think, I mean, I know myself, you know,

(01:50:05):
like I mean, I've been able to you know, the
different times in my life. You know, I've i haven't
dot money and lost it. I mean, I've been divorced
a few times, so I know what it's like to
you know, have money and not have money.

Speaker 1 (01:50:18):
And we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

Speaker 2 (01:50:30):
Generally I'm able to or I've worked through the fear.
But generally in my in the past, I've been able
to get through any amount of money. I mean, it's
not like I've had huge wealth, you know. I mean
we're we're not talking millions here, We're talking about, you know, thousands.
But it goes as quickly as it comes in generally
for you. For me, yeah, And it used to do

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with the past fear of loss. Now I've worked through it,
so I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
Better able to say now you're loaded.

Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
It would be a fine thing. But it goes back
to you know, people. I literally get letters from people going, yeah,
I don't think you should be charging for your work.
That's not it's not spiritual. And I'm thinking I never respond,
you know what I mean. But it's like, well, you
don't know how much it costs to run this business.
We do so much stuff for free. We've got our

(01:51:21):
we have a Soul World Sunday that we do. It's
like we have to hire staff, We've got cost I mean, well,
you know what it costs to run a business, you know,
and you know, or or put your kids through college
or whatever it might be, put gas in the time.
And these people you think they should live in a
paper bag at the end of the road because spiritual work.

Speaker 1 (01:51:41):
But that's their own programming and that's their own past
life drama that they're bringing into this thing, right. But
the thing is like content might be free, but it's
not free to create, you know, that's the bottom line.
You know, to be able to put on a show
like this and do a qu high quality show and
bring high quality guests in and and so on, it

(01:52:02):
takes time, and your work takes time and takes money,
takes resources. So I have no problem with abundance. And
if you look at nature, nature is abundant. An apple
tree doesn't count the apples on its tree. There's more
that it's it's over, it's too many apples actually come

(01:52:22):
out of a tree generally speaking. So it's there's no
scarcity in nature, so why should it be any scarcity
in our world? But also it's what you do with
that money.

Speaker 2 (01:52:34):
Oh, it's so much what you what you.

Speaker 1 (01:52:36):
Do is what you do, how you treat it, how
you treat other people, what you can do to help.
If you're it's all about ego, then it's going to
destroy you.

Speaker 2 (01:52:44):
Well if you're like, uh, I mean, I do want
to spend all the time beating up on musk. But
why not? There's somebody who could He actually had the
opportunity used. He's They said, you know, you could end
world hunger basically, but with a fraction of what he's good.
He goes, oh, sure, I'll do that. Never never follow

(01:53:06):
it through. I mean, there's a man who could change
people's lives. I never even notice it. I mean, my god,
the richest you put him bezos, how they could change
the world and they don't. And again it's the fear
of loss. With younger souls, they they it's the greed,

(01:53:28):
you know. I mean, I don't call him the richest
man in the world, call him the greediest man in
the world.

Speaker 1 (01:53:33):
I mean, I don't know about you, but if I
can't even get out of them up in the morning
without tw hundred billion in the bank, I know. I mean,
it's just not easy. It's not things are expensive, inflation.

Speaker 2 (01:53:42):
Eggs, eggs.

Speaker 1 (01:53:46):
I mean, we laugh and we joke about it because
it's it's ridiculous for us to look at this like
you know, if I've said this so many times and
show I'm like, if one hundred million dollars showed up tomorrow,
I'd be like, great, now I can get to work.
Now I can go do some stuff like now I
have the resources to really help people, to you know,

(01:54:07):
put out content that I really want to help with
help people. Yeah, it gets you out of the basic
foundations to help people. It's all about that. That's That's
the only thing. I would never in a billion years
sit on an island somewhere drinking a margarita for the
rest of my life, and that it would drive me insane.
It's not what I'm supposed to.

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
Be doing exactly. Well, the people like you and I
older souls with a purpose. You know, it would be
nice to have that security, But it's the freedom that
it buys you. That's what the old soul is looking for.
Oh yeah, it gives you the opportunity to be able
to do the things that will change people's lives and
make a difference.

Speaker 1 (01:54:43):
Without having to worry about how am I gonna pay rent?

Speaker 2 (01:54:46):
Yeah, kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:54:48):
I'm going to ask you now a few questions because
I could keep talking to you for hours.

Speaker 2 (01:54:53):
And I could keep you know, like you probably noticed,
I love my work.

Speaker 1 (01:54:58):
And as I do, as do I ask you a
few questions ask on my guests. Sure, what is your
definition of living a fulfilled life?

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
Well, because of doing the work that I do, I'd
say it's living the life that you're sol intended. It's like,
in every moment, you want to feel like you're doing
something that is giving you purpose and meaning.

Speaker 1 (01:55:20):
How do you find that though, Well, it starts.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
By understanding who you are. I always say that that's
the you know, I think I said it before who
you are is why you're here. And once you understand
the personality that you brought into this world, then you
can start finding things that really bring you. Meaning. I'm
a full blown creator, soul type. I've got loads of
past lives as an artist.

Speaker 1 (01:55:42):
I was a.

Speaker 2 (01:55:43):
Cartoon illustrator for twenty years. I paint now, and musician
and musician absolutely so. And it's so funny. But people
about my creativity. People might go, my god, you're such
a renascence man, and is there anything you can't do?
And I go, look, I have about five talents, you know,

(01:56:04):
and they're all creative. You know. I can paint, I
can write and blah blah blah. But after that it
just boom, it just falls off. Like you know, don't
ask me to balance a check but you can.

Speaker 1 (01:56:15):
Don't ask me to do math. Don't ask me to
do math. Don't ask me to find directions directions, don't
ask me to where to, Like, where do you go?
If I don't have a Google map, forget it? Oh oh,
my wife loves me.

Speaker 2 (01:56:30):
You may have my condition, which is dyscalcule. You should
look it up. It's like when I discovered that one
of one of the signs of it is not being
able to distinguish between left and right. It was like,
oh my god, well I can do that. Oh you can.

Speaker 1 (01:56:43):
I can do that, and I can also if I
focus my mind on it, I can get around no problem.
But my parents, I just don't care. I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
I just not.

Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
It's something I don't want to think about. It's like
one of those things like I don't just tell me
where to go. I don't. And you've lived here for
ten years you don't know how to get like, just
tell me where to go.

Speaker 2 (01:57:05):
Oh that's such an old soul. I the same thing.
It just doesn't feel important.

Speaker 1 (01:57:09):
I just don't care. Like math, I'm like, oh yeah,
you know, that's why. That's why we have the women
in our lives. Then I'll tell to balance if you will. Well.

Speaker 2 (01:57:19):
Driving with my wife Christie, it's it's great because she
knows that I have this problem. So she she's in
the passenger seat going you need to turn left, and
she's non dominant hand all right, or she points like,
you know, making sure it's really clear, because otherwise she'll turn.
She'll say turn left and I'll.

Speaker 1 (01:57:38):
Get out of my car, sir, get out of my
car exactly what happens with me. She's like turned off down.
I did I have to tell you to turn left?
I'm like I was, I was somewhere else. I was
not I was not right here.

Speaker 2 (01:57:53):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:57:54):
If you had a chance to go back in time
and speak to little Ansley, what advice would you give him?

Speaker 2 (01:57:59):
Oh? Oh gosh, oh, well, I think I would. I
think I would tell younger me make sure I was
using the right part of my anatomy when I made
decisions about relationships.

Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
That's very wise. Words for all all all men and women,
but specifically.

Speaker 2 (01:58:21):
Men are discernment, a little bit more discernment.

Speaker 1 (01:58:25):
These are things you needed to work out in this life.

Speaker 2 (01:58:27):
Yea, how it was? You know, I'm all about love,
you know, and it's like very much confusing, you know,
kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:58:35):
You don't have to marry them all, No.

Speaker 2 (01:58:36):
I know that, but I did fair enough, fair enough.

Speaker 1 (01:58:41):
How do you define God or source?

Speaker 2 (01:58:43):
Well, I you know, I I talk about spirit guides
all the time, and whether it really to me it
feels like whether you're talking to however you identify spirit guides, God,
higher power, goddess, whatever. These are terms that are just
referring to some higher level of energy. And for me,

(01:59:10):
you know, when I first started working with the spirit world,
I said, how do you want to be addressed? You know,
is there some sort of groovy name we can find?
They just spirit guides. So that's it, you know, simple
as that.

Speaker 1 (01:59:22):
And you have multiple spirit guys that speak out of
one voice essentially, Yeah, like it's a collective.

Speaker 2 (01:59:27):
It's a collective and yeah, but it's one voice, fair enough.
What is love? Well, there's different ways, but I think
to express that, but I think love is it's about
having an open heart and it's and it's also being fearless,
you know, because it really is the if you you
talked about enlightenment earlier on. From my spirit GUIDs point

(01:59:49):
of view, being enlightened is the absence of fear. Once
you get rid of your fears, then nothing is left
but the heart and the soul. I can action of
the soul. It's only fear that blocks the connection between
the conscious mind and the soul. It's beautifully said, beautifully said.

Speaker 1 (02:00:07):
If you could ask God or Source one question, wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (02:00:10):
It be Oh? I asked, I ask questions all the time.
That's a really hard one.

Speaker 1 (02:00:17):
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Speaker 2 (02:00:33):
Yeah. Whatever I want to know, I can ask. I
don't always get answer answers. There's certain things not in
my highest interest to know.

Speaker 1 (02:00:39):
But so the lottery ticket number is not so much.

Speaker 2 (02:00:41):
That's what we're working on that one. We thought, well, actually,
Christine's father's long deceased. He's uh, he's going to be
he wants to start helping us with lottery tickets. And
there was a woman who turned up at the to
collect her her winnings from the californ Or on your
lottery with a weija board under her arm. So people

(02:01:04):
do that. That's brilliant. So far, my spirit guys have
not shown any interesting you know.

Speaker 1 (02:01:11):
It's giving you millions of dollars. That's good. That's good.
They're good spirit guys. They're doing good work for you
this time. And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Speaker 2 (02:01:22):
The ultimate purpose is really to oh my gosh, it's
on two levels. One is to really be who you are,
to be authentic, authentic person that you're meant to be.
But the other thing is to really live a spiritual life.
And you know, this is what we were talking about

(02:01:43):
before this goes. It's a lot more than just you know,
having a meditation practice and and and doing some yoga.
These are means to an end, not the end itself.
You know, yes, exactly. You know, it's like not just
about wishing people now to stay. It's like, you know,
it's about how you show up for other people. It's

(02:02:06):
service to others, you know, and in a very you know,
it's a broad way, but it's about affecting positive positively
affecting other people. That's that's real spirituality. That's what spirituality
is about. And for that reason, that's one of the
reasons that spirituality and politics are inseparable. You know, there's
this idea that I'm spiritual, so I'm above politics. Well,

(02:02:30):
that again is you know, wonderful if you're in your
beach house in Malibu and you know you're you're above
all that. But there are people who are really suffering.
For every person that says, well, you know, I'm spiritual,
not political. There's a ten year old child in Texas
probably here ready to give birth to her stepfather's baby.

(02:02:55):
You know, there's there's a lot of you know, major
problems out there affecting people, and just because it's not
affecting you does not mean everything in the world is
just perfect. We should all be thinking about others.

Speaker 1 (02:03:09):
And where can people find out more about you pick
up a copy of the Old Soul's Guidebook and find
out more about what you do in the world.

Speaker 2 (02:03:16):
Oh well, you can go to Soulworld dot com and
you can learn all about what I do there. That
will take you to our membership program, the Sole World
and which is an amazing gathering place for old souls
and we have a very lively forum. It's really it's

(02:03:40):
a community that we've created. You can find my book
through you know, order it online. I really try these
days to to find alternatives to Amazon. You know, they
don't need your dollars, so go to an independent bookstore
order it is what I would recommend. And or you

(02:04:03):
can just go to Ainsley McLoud dot com and you
can learn all about what I do there.

Speaker 1 (02:04:09):
And do you or your spare GUIDs have any party
messages for the audience?

Speaker 2 (02:04:13):
Oh well, I'd just like to maybe just leave a
message that just remember it's all about love and you know,
We're all here as old souls to learn compassion and
extend that to other people. It's, you know, being a
loving presence in the world. From the time I was little,

(02:04:35):
it was like always going, what is so hard about kindness?
Why is the I think problem there? Why is it
so hard for people? And I think that's the important thing.
You know, if you want to be if you want
to show people that you're spiritually oriented old soul, also
it starts with kindness. Just be compassionate, kind to other people.

Speaker 1 (02:04:58):
If you want to change yourself. Point that, if you
want to change the world, you need to start with
changing yourself. That's right, Ainsley. It's been such a pleasure
meeting you and talking to you today. I am looking
forward to our next conversation. I appreciate you and everything
you're doing to help awaken the planet my friends, so
thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:05:14):
Well back at you, and thank you so much. Really
really appreciate it, Appreciate the conversation, great questions.

Speaker 1 (02:05:23):
I like to thank Ainsley so much for coming on
the show and sharing his knowledge and wisdom with all
of us. If you want to get links to anything
we spoke about in this episode, head over to the
show notes at Next levelsoul dot com Forward Slash five
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