NLS 576: Psychic's STUNNING Predictions for 2025, Mankind's FUTURE & the US Economy! with Annette Bricca

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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its host, or any of the companies they represent. Now
today on the show, we welcome back psychic medium Annette Ricca.
Annetta and I have a beautiful conversation about John Benet Ramsey,
which was pretty remarkable. What her investigations really came up with,

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humanity's future and where we're going the economy, how the
media is absolutely collapsing around us, institutions like religion, healthcare
and so on are all cracking, and what this all
means for us in twenty twenty five and the rest
of this decade. Let's dive in. I'd like to welcome

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back to the show, Returning Champion.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Oh, thank you, thank you. I'm saying I'm great. How
are you?

Speaker 1 (01:57):
I'm great? Thank you so much for making your trip
on the next level solo studios.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I appreciate I love it. It's been a fabulous trip.
I love Austin, love the studio. It's beautiful. And I
even love to hear the words returning Champion even more.
I feel like I'm on Wheel Fortune or Jeopardy, like
the final round. I've made it.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
You know, It's funny. I've been saying that, I think
basically since I started podcasting. It's just something that I
always said to my guests when they came back. I
was like, you're returning Champion and everyone. Now it's become
a thing in the next level soul community that like
people are like, oh, returning.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Jam winning the ticket and Willy Wonka, like you had
the Golden ticket, Like I was so excited to even
be a returning champion that that if I now, if
today's the last day of my life, I've made it.
Oh my god, Yes, thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
I don't think it is, but I mean you are psychic,
so hopefully you would. Yeah, I mean they'll let you
know that at least.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yes, yes, I think, but I think I'm good. So
thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Well, our last conversation did quite well. People really enjoyed
our our energy together and it was it was so
much fun.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
That's why I had to have you back.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
So I wanted to. I wanted to start talk talking
to you about the We're going to talk about a
bunch of different things, but you had something you wanted
to talk about about. This this cold case, yes that's
been around for a while, and then you have some
insight on so I just wanted to let's start off there.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, happen. So I have one of the things that
I had told you the last time I was on
and you know, people that know me or I've been
doing this for for a long time. So as a child.
I've always been working with the police in the FBI
and helping find missing children, and I mean, that's a
full time job. So even though I do readings full time,
I mean, I do you know, I have done that
since I was thirteen all the time. I don't very
often get involved in cold cases. And the reason is

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because I just actually don't have time for that. And
I'm I don't want to say who cares, but I've
been I'm so consumed with trying to help find missing
children because hopefully find them alive or give the family
closure that I never really thought about cold cases. But
there was an opportunity recently where somebody in the know said, hey,

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there's this case that you know everybody knows about them,
a Ramsey case. Do you have some insight on it?
And I said, yeah, now I have more than insight.
I know the deal. And they're like what, and I
said yeah, And they said, well, why haven't you say anything? Well,
I said, I actually, I never It never occurred to me.
I don't know, I said, because I'm so honestly, really daily,

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so focused on the work that I'm doing that so recently,
so when I when this again, this opportunity came up.
I thought, well, here's what I'm going to do. I
am going to tackle this like I would because even
though I thought like I knew the answers, I thought, well,
I'm gonna take this the further. I'm gonna do like
I would do it with a missing child, so I

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would meditate. This is a little bit of a process.
So I said, I'm gonna do it that way. And
actually there was some surprises because what I thought I
knew I was kind of right, not right enough. But
in then tackling it the process that I do it,
not only do I feel like I know exactly what happened,
but then Jean Money came to me and has come

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to me continuously to the point where the other night
in my hotel here in Austin, knowing that I wanted
to say a little bit about it because I wanted
to make sure I got it right. But I did
did it justice. And at midnight I was woken up,
and you know, she comes to me and was very
clear about a particular part of the story that she

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wanted to make sure that I completely understood. I understood
like the facts of it, let's say, like like the details.
I didn't understand the emotions behind it, that sort of
thing between the people involved when she wanted very carefully
for me to get it, and I was crying, and

(05:44):
I could see like as all these people involved, like
like how they felt while it was happening. When everything unfolded,
that that actually changed my life. I have never had
an experience like that. I've had a lot of experiences
where people have come through a somebody. Recently, I have
a client of mine that I've been doing readings for.
She contacted me about a month ago and I had

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we had scheduled to read you for three weeks out
and she said, listen, I know that we're going to
talk in three weeks. But I have a son who
is in Chili right now. And he was like a
world like a wilderness survivor camp person. So he would
go to all these different countries for many, many years
and do this for a living. He was going to
go to let's say Argentina for a month and work

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that gig, but prior to that, he was going to
go to Chile some famous river and do some kayaking
for a week or two. And he did that on
a regular basis. And she knew that and whatever she
said to me, he's missing in Chili. So I know
that you don't really help missing adults, but could you
help and look into my son? So I did and
then we found, you know, we found that he was

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he was not alive. They found him, that the embassy
was involved, social media was involved, and his name is Miles.
He had come through and when he had come through,
and she was still hopeful of that point, and there
was a lot of search and rescue teams and when
he first came through, like the first day, she asked
me to look into it. He was like dancing. He
was like rejoicing on the other side. And so even

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though I had had a lot of people come through,
I have never met a person in my life that
was a happier person than Miles was on the other side.
So when I knew, I had to break it to
his mother that he had passed, but she again, the
search and rescue team was still going to go on
for a couple of days. But I thought, he's so fabulous.
I couldn't wait to give her the message. And then

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I thought that changed my life because that experience. He
has come to me many times and it did change
my life because it was a different level of I
tell people often now. He was one of the best
people I've ever met in my entire life that I
did not meet alive. He has changed the way I mean.
I have kind of been known for telling people live

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in the moment. I thought. I thought I knew that
from my own story, but from Miles, who did live
in the moment and who's living in the moment on
the other side and absolutely wanted me to tell everybody, listen,
he's more than okay, he's better than okay. So I thought,
all right, that changed it. But now was Jean Beney
coming through, and this what she told me the other night,

(08:12):
to see it from she because her message was cleared.
I don't want you to just report the facts. You're
not a news anger. Don't go out there and just
say this. You need to be very careful and that
when you do it, that you say it in a compassionate,
empathetic way, that these people involved it doesn't ruin their life.
And because she does want her story to be told,

(08:35):
but in the right way, but from your heart. I've
never done that, not knowingly. It changed everything that I
thought from that moment on. So I am really extremely
grateful for her. I am grateful from this opportunity. And
I also, you know, I thought long and hard about
this because I can only imagine that when people hear this,

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you know, some people will think she's right on. I
believe that all along, other people will have their way
in and I'm not trying to convince anybody. I just
believe strongly, like I do, you know, with missing children,
when I get involved, and again because I follow the
same process that when I find a missing child, because
I don't just say, like, in five minutes, okay, this

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is what I think, because I'm you know, really concerned,
I get it right, and but I feel grateful to
her because it it because I don't I don't you know,
even my when I was on last time, I told
you that I had been kidnapped when I was a child,
and one of the things that I wanted to do
was one of the guys on death row. The other
guy is out and he lives kind of not far
from me, and I was kind of angry. I am

(09:39):
still angry, and I was kind of angry, and one
of my goals was that I wanted to get him.
You know I want to go get him. After Jean Bena,
I don't feel that way. I feel I feel sorry
for him.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Alex.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
If you would have told me a month ago you
were gonna feel sorry and you're gonna feel empathetic for
your kidnapper, I would have said, you know what, no way,
because I was actu actually not feeling empathetic. I was feeling,
you know, poor me, even though I wasn't telling people
for me, I kind of was still acting like the victim.

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Only until Jean Benet came to me did I realize
and I don't mean that that it made me think differently.
I actually, like, in one moment, had instant empathy for
my empathy for my kidipper. To tell you that that
blew me away that now I actually hope he lives
a long good life.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Who would know that I could think that I wanted
him to not live a long good life if I'm
really being honest. But now I actually I actually believe
or not wish I had the opportunity to into him
and say, not only do I forgive you, but I

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hope you whatever time you have left, if it's five
minutes or five years, you just from this moment on
live the best life you can.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
And but what did Joan Benet tell you that? Why
did you make the switch?

Speaker 2 (11:16):
So I don't know how to start it if I
should break it down what I believe happened. So let
me tell you what she told me, and then I'm
gonna break down when I see happening what she told
me that when she told me she's so, she showed
me what took place, and the people that are involved
are people that she loves. And it was all not

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nobody murder her. Everything was an accident. So the thing
is is that for all these years though, Okay, what
Jean Benet has told me is that if she were
able to say to the world, I don't want the
world to destroy my loved ones lives, which they have
been ruminable, she would like to say, no, the I

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love these, these are my family, these are my people.
I love them. But something went wrong. This was a mistake.
And then you know, sometimes we do something wrong and
then because we panic, sure there's a chain of events
that take place that when we in hindsight look back,
we're like whoa, why did I do that third thing?
Because that then took it to another level. I should
have just had a color had I should have thought

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this through, but because a panic. So Jean Benet has
been from the other side, watching everything unfold for all
these years, feeling very sorry. She you know, she doesn't
want anything bad to happen to her leftones. She wishes
the world knows, hey, it was an accident. These people panicked,
so then it got totally to another level. But she

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she showed me love. She showed me from the other
side that she has been trying because what she other
told me is that you know, hey, you're not special.
So even though you think you're gonna crack this, you're
not special. Because she has tried to come through to
a lot of people to say but they missed the
mark about the love. And I think that the reason
why I could get it again not because I'm so special,

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because I actually was doing what because I had this
unique experience with my kidnapper currently that I don't love
him that then because once she said to me, I
want everyone to if you're going to say anything about this,
you have to make sure they can feel the love.
So I said to hell, I don't know how to
do that. She goes, well, I'm going to show you,

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and then in one second she made me think of
my kidnapper, and I felt over overcome with love to
the point where I say to people in my life,
I say I have a daughter and a husband, and
I say I have a dog, Fred. I say, fred
is the number one thing in my life, and two
and three and four and five, and my husband's like,
am I six? I'm like, okay, my daughter's six or seven.

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But you know that's my joke. When when she said
I'm going to show you what love is, the first
person that came into my life was my kidnapper. But
the feeling the intense love like I do for my dog,
there's no thing on this planet that could have told
me that that was possible, but not that I that
like I was gonna start to like. I actually felt

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it every single day since then, throughout the day, I
wish him love. I'm like, wherever you are, I am
from a soul to soul level connecting with him, and
I am trying to let him know I hope you
have not a good like a fabulous day, and sending
him love so once she did that to me, I thought,

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there's there's you know, I'm I'm sure I have a
million other lessons to learn this lifetime. It is the
most profound thing. Because I thought, here, I'm gonna come on,
I'm gonna crack her case. I was missing the point.
She doesn't want her case to be cracked. She wants
it to be understood. She wants everyone to it. There
to be a softness, you know. She reminded me that

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at six years old when she died, and she died
as this beauty queen, a little cute, little cutie pie. Okay,
she goes, I don't want that to be lost at anybody,
because she didn't come into this lifetime thinking she was
going to She knows she was going to die at
six as a little cutie pie. The whole irony of
her being this cutie pie patch and was for everybody
to remember this, but to remember the love part, because

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what she came here to do was to spread love
and compassion and empathy. And instead of everybody thinking, oh
my god, this poor little girl was murdered, which she was,
but not murdered. It was an accident, and she thought
that she was because when she signed up for this
lifetime she thought that she was going to come and

(15:41):
do what she did to me, but nobody got it
because everybody, because everybody was so concerned and fixated on,
like the police bumbling it that then it So I
think she thought, all right, I'm gonna, you know what,
I'm gonna deal with this psychic in New Jersey who's
got this kidnapper that she's you know, hates, so you know,
let me help her because by helping her, she can

(16:04):
get it. And I did get it. So yeah, So
it was an accident. It was an accident. It was
an accident. It was so so so I would if
I may, I'm gonna unfold what I believe strongly happened.
But I also want to say that I don't want
to get anybody in trouble and I'm not trying to,

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and I also don't want to get myself in trouble.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
So please just do what you need to do.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
So I believe that. So there are some facts of
the case that everybody knows. There was when they did
the autopsy, there was some pineapple in her stomach. Jean
Benet kept telling me focus on the pineapple, so that
is the truth. The pineapple is a true fact that
she was, let's say, enjoying pineapple, okay, with her loved ones.

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But I don't know that she was enjoying it. So
there was a family member who was eating pineapple. She
let's say, helped herself to it. No big deal, okay,
I believe this family this this number, this family member
maybe didn't want her to have some paina you know,
no big deal. And something ensued. So a sibling rivally

(17:10):
whatever happened, and there was an accident and she got hurt.
But you know, I have brothers and sisters, and there's
many times that you know that something accident deadly could happen.
But when he hurt her, he didn't kill her. She
got hurt, okay. Then another family member who thought she

(17:31):
died didn't want him to get in trouble, so she
covered it up, which was Patsy. And she then in
a panic again because again you have like a split second,
I think, because when you were about to make a
life or death decision like this, you don't think it through,
you don't, you know. So she went into what she
wanted and wrote this ransom note, this elaborate ransom note. Okay,

(17:55):
so because again she again not thinking. I think Patsy,
even Patsy Ramsey, even after she did I think she's like, okay,
this is kind of crazy, but but it was enough
to keep everybody out of jail. So she wrote the
Ramsom note. And I believe that that because she thought
that she was dead. That's why she then was strangled.

(18:18):
I think Patsy Ramsey did it, but not to murder
her daughter. I think she just needed to make it
look like somebody else did it, and that's why she
out of love. Think about this, she did it out
of love to save her son. So everything was an accident.
It was all out of love. Then the irony is

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is that then and again because of the time that
it happened, the area that it happened. Then they started
inviting all their family and from family members over and again.
I don't think that it was even that Patsy at
the time was like so strategic that she's like, all right,
I'm going to contaminate the crime scene because I think
you know she's now she's distraught because you know her
daughter is dead. She's distraught. A bunch of people come over.

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The crime scene was not contained, so now everything's contaminated.
And then it was like the perfect storm because then
you can almost not even though they have been trying
to like run the DNA many many times, there was
a bunch of DNA that was contaminated. Then there were
levels of DNA that they didn't even have enough of it.
Then it took a long time that it was directly so.
But the problem is is it destroyed everyone's life. Hatsy

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died of cancer much earlier than she would have because
of the guilt and the disease and all that. The
poor son's life. You know, I don't I know a
little bit about him, not much, you know, I think
he's a fabulous human being. I feel such love and
empathy for him too. And I'm not trying to call
him out either. And I actually, you know, if anybody

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thinks that that is what I'm trying to do, they're
missing the mark too, because this is really about not
about I'm not even trying to get credit, like, hey,
you know a net brick of salved A jambre. No
I thought I was. I actually thought that's what I
was going to do. I want to say, this is
about love. So if somebody doesn't if anybody thinks they
want to go and you know, confront somebody. You know,

(20:12):
everybody needs to leave everyone alone, Leave his the brother alone.
Let his poor father lived his life. Everyone deserves to live.
And let's give this family love and a break because
Jean Monet was only going to live till six.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
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Speaker 2 (20:38):
So, you know, I tell people all the time when
we die, sometimes we don't die just in our sleep
at ninety eight years old, knitting and you know, with
a cup of warm tea by the cough, our end tables.
Sometimes we die tragically. We always know as souls that
that's where we're in for. Like my kidnapping, I knew,
like I told you, didn't know at the time, but
I knew after it happened that that's what I signed

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up for. You know, I joke around now that I
am going to when I get to the other side,
complain to customer service and say, okay, we need we
need somebody you know, higher level in customer service.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
To really I need to speak to a manager.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah yeah, if that measure is not available, I'll wait.
When is the person back on the shift because you know,
it was pretty challenging, but she knew and she signed
up for it because she thought that was what was
going to happen. And that is my message.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yes, beautiful message. Beautiful message. Now I wanted to ask
you what is on the other side when spirits do
come through you as a medium, what is the most
common message that they want to give to loved ones?

Speaker 2 (21:42):
And if I may just say, this is for entertainment
purposes only, and I am not a uh detective lawyer.
I'm not trying to get anyone arrested, which everyone loves.
That for sure, got it. Well, I think that they're
trying to tell me love, which I never again I

(22:03):
thought I had this down. I've only now with Miles
and now Jean Benet and a lot of people have
come through and you know they yeah, love. But that
is the whole thing, because Miles is the one that
kicked it off. If I didn't have this experience with Miles,
I would not have done the Geen Berenet thing because
I wasn't doing like when my client reached out and

(22:26):
said my son is missing, I wouldn't nor you know,
people have done that before. And I and I if
they're not a child, I'll help. But I usually say, hey,
it's not really my ear of expertise. I'll see what
I can do. But I but but but in the moment,
Myles is like, Nope, you're doing this. And I just said,
instantly said of my client, Yep, I'll do it. I thought, oh,
whoa what am I agreeing to? Okay? And then he
came through instantly and he made it easy for me.

(22:48):
Miles said to me, I'll do the work, huh you
And he showed me himself dancing to show me love.
Everything that he told me to tell his mother was
about love. When it was confirmed they found his body
and that they then like everybody, thousands of people in
so you know, through social media that knew him throughout
the world, all these young people that he helped, They said,

(23:10):
this man changed my life. He he you know, I
was either like a kid struggling or maybe not. But
he showed me the meaning of life. He would come
to my tent with his harmonica in the morning and
sing and dance, and he anything that I know as
a person a foundation I got for Miles, and it
was love. He is love. So he made me feel
loved than Joan Benay. And now I know that in

(23:33):
the past, when people would come through and I would
try to give the person the message, I should always
have started with love. And I don't think I did.
I because I wanted to get the facts. I wanted
to wow the person. I wanted to say, you know,
things that I couldn't know, so they knew, which which
is good too. But but I think I should have
ended with the love, because you know, I did say

(23:55):
many times. So when when I was in California, I
was started to be known as like a famous medium,
and I didn't want to be a famous medium because
I really like to do it. I was kind of
I was kind of scared of that. I was there's
a little girl that kept coming to me by my
refrigerator who was dead. I was like, well, I don't okay, did.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
You see then?

Speaker 2 (24:11):
When? When?

Speaker 1 (24:11):
And by the way, when when you see people, do
you see them physically like in or do you see
them in your mind?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Well? I would prefer only in my mind.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
But every once in a while.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Way more than i'd like, I actually see them.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Is there anybody here today?

Speaker 2 (24:27):
No? But but and I would love to keep it
that way, but it also catches me off card.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
You know, and as it would it does listen you don't.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
So I'm always freaked out by it. And so the
thing is is that, you know, I said when when
I was starting to do the medium ship, Okay, I
don't really want to be known for this, I you know.
But and I think now in hindsight, the reason why
I don't want to be known is because I meant
I would mention like I would do a reading for somebody,
and then in the moment they say, oh my god,
you're right, that is my loved one. You would hit

(24:57):
it on the head. You're telling me things I could
not possibly know. Thank you, this is life changing. But
then two days later they would call me and they
would say, Okay, yes I did say it was life changing,
but you know, did they say anything else? And I
would feel like, oh, I'm missing the mark. So I
realize now I didn't love to do it because I
was missing the point if I left that person who

(25:18):
let them know that it's about love, okay, they're more
than okay on the other side, and they want you
to be more okay and live it up, live your
best life. Here. I would not have been getting those
phone calls every two days after it. So I because
again I thought, look at me, I missed it. So
that is what I believe they have always tried to

(25:40):
tell me, and now going forward, So now I'm excited.
Now I'm like, oh, I have like told the spirit world, okay,
I'm open for business. You know, if you're on the
other side and you want to talk here, I am.
You know, again, I didn't want to do it, but
now because I now, I feel like I'm I want
to hand out love racests, you know, I'm I know.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
What's really fascinating is that this idea of i mean,
sharing love and putting love out into the world is
something that is so needed now, and it seems like
we're going to be needing more and more of it
as the world starts to unravel a bit more. I mean,
these last four years and now we're in the fifth

(26:22):
year of this decade, have been probably some of the
most trying in human history, well at least within the
last one hundred and fifty years. I mean, there's been
a lot. I mean, we've had it much worse than
we have now, but things are shifting and changing in
such a way that it is very difficult to even
hold on to the bar on the ride. It's getting

(26:44):
so crazy, so fast in chains are changing faster than
they have ever changed in human history. We've had tougher times,
no question, but we've never had the kind of change
and the abruptness of the change ever.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
The one on top of the other, the speed that
it's happening, and our inability to, even though we all
vibrate higher, to adjust to it in a way that
we're not freaked out. So now that I even in
this last so fifty seven years old, but in the
last three days, you know, thank you, Jean Benet taught

(27:22):
me a life lesson that if I could bottle it
and hand it out, I hope Jean Beney goes comes
through to every single human being on the planet and
for one second puts that love feeling in everybody. Because
now it has changed everything that I feel about everything.
I actually am so much kind or nicer in a

(27:44):
different way that you know. What's something. I was checking
out of my hotel today and when I was checking
out the girls, the young girl said to me, I
just have to tell you you're the most loving person
I've ever met. I go, nobody's ever said that. Okay,
not only has they never said it? Okay, okay, I'm
not the most loving person at all, But because this

(28:04):
just happened, I said, Okay, that's really feeling unbelievable. I go,
I'm just curious. Why would you say that. She goes, well,
I'm sure you hear her all the time. I go
the opposite. I've heard it for the last three days,
and she goes, well, you've changed my life. So strangers
think about that? How powerful? I mean, because if I'm
just checking out and I'm saying room number blah blah blah,

(28:26):
that's nice, Why would she say love if it's not
coming through my pores?

Speaker 1 (28:31):
And the funny thing is that that people will if
you were able to. This is the thing that people
don't understand. When they want to change the world, they
need to change themselves. Yes, because yeah, les, because now
you affected that, yeah, and she's gonna afect somebody else.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
And so the interesting thing is I said those exact
words last time I was on the show. I said,
you know, if I do a reading for you and
I help you, and then you come away from that
experience whatever that is, and now you vibrate different and
it's a ripple effect. What I didn't realize because I
was still angry with my own life and my kidnapper,
and I was my mom also was part of it,

(29:07):
as you know, So I kind of forgave my mom.
But I really love my mom. She's not the one
that's benefiting. So after now I felt love. Okay, I
can forgive and not and love and forgiveness are different.
So not only do I forgive my kidnapper, forget forgive
that's not enough. I want you to have a loving,

(29:28):
fabulous life. And I'm gonna and you know how I'm
gonna help you. I'm gonna send you love every day.
I am gonna wake up every day and I before
I even like say to the universe thank you for
my life, I'm gonna thank you for his life. Because
that is how the ripple effect works. And that is
what I recently got. That's that's it.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
And this is the thing that something that people have
a difficult time wrapping their heads around because they're looking
at it from the point of view of being in
this three dimensional reality yes that we're here, is that
you know, I've gone through trauma on my life. You've
gone through trauma on your life. Looking back, I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Change it me either.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
I wouldn't change it either. It was part of who
I am and it made me up. Was it pleasant? No?
But change isn't pleasant when it's real change. And I
always equate it to like going to the gym. You
work out. It's not pleasant to strain your muscles and
tear your muscle fibers so it can then reheat, you know,

(30:28):
rebuild itself up and go. You need to do a
teardown in order to build up. The teardown is very difficult,
and that's where the trauma comes in. We'll be right
back after a word from our sponsor, and now back
to the show. Now, that is the challenge, is that

(30:49):
the contrast that we need to be able to grow
as souls. We need contrasts. It's not pleasant, but if
we didn't have the contrast, we wouldn't know any different.
I've always there's a now j I always uses like
if you were born in a Michelin Star to a
Michelin Star chef family, and all you ever ate was

(31:10):
Michelin Star meals.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Well you want macaron and cheese.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Wants but the point is that they don't. But without
But the thing is that if you've only eaten Michelin
star caliber meals your entire life.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Well you have no concept.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
You don't have a contrast. So McDonald's would be a
completely different So you would need, absolutely need to have
a McDonald's or a mac and cheese from a box
to understand what you have. But so that contrast is
where the problem is. But nobody, nobody wants to deal

(31:44):
with the heavy lifting. Nobody wants to deal with the contrast.
But without it, we can't grow and anything. If anyone's
really truly honest with themselves, they look back at their
life and the moments they grew were the toughest times
of their life, but they made us who we are.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yes, yes, I mean I have said for many years
that I I when this had happened to me at
a young age, and then I realized that, okay, this
is my life, whether or not I wanted it to be,
you know, and then you know, within you know, five
chunks of time, ten years of time, you know, I
was more accepting it and I kind of learned how

(32:18):
to deal with it and to you know, make it
my life. But not only would I not change it,
I wouldn't. The only thing that would change is that
I wish I got the message of love way sooner
because again in my own story, I think this, Jean
Benet again reminded me I died at six on purpose.
In it, I was only going to live to six. Remember,

(32:38):
And I do know that. I actually do know that
she didn't she should have had to remind me, but
I but what she reminded me was my experience. I
was supposed to not just help find missing children, which
is why that happened to me, but to learn love
because I didn't have to live in a life of anchor.

(32:58):
I could have been loving the world because I was.
Even though I do know because I had mentioned before
I had a near death experience, I thought the near
death experience in the moment and even up to the
doing your Last show, I said it gave me an
idea of the bigger picture. I think too, I missed
that mark too, because the near death experience was supposed

(33:19):
to make me realize that there is a bigger picture,
so you don't have to be afraid of dying, not
dying that But and I I think I told you
when I had the near death experience. I experienced love
where it felt like I was being in a warm blanket,
like embraced by an envelope of love, which I wouldn't
never felt, never have felt like that until Jean Beney

(33:40):
the other day. I get it. So I believe Universe
that all right, let's give you this little let's okay,
we're gonna give her a near death experience so she
can learn love. I didn't learn it. I learned that
there was something on the other side more than this.
So I think Jean Benet said said, okay, you know what,
We're gonna give this this chicken, New Jersey and opportunity
to learn. Okay, she's gonna get it. And I did

(34:02):
get it. So I believe that that's the only thing
I would change that I wish all these times that
people have come through and all the readings that I've done,
I want the message to be loved. Because I kept saying,
you know, get through the tough times like you, and
I had kept saying like, plow through it. Yeah, plow
through it because you do need to and live an

(34:22):
intentional life, but live love yourself, love others, forgive others
and have a loving spirit, not of fear, because it
is the game changer. It has changed me. I am,
I literally am a changed person.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
But let me ask you, though you you've all this time,
you've had access to the other side. You had a
near death experience, which not everybody has, so you had
an insight to it. But yet there was still anger.
There was still resentment. Yes, there was still yes, all
this kind of stuff. Yes, So what was it? I mean,
I understand the John Beneka when she came in kind

(34:58):
of reminded you of it. But is it because you
were still so caught up in the drama of this life. Yes,
and the emotions of this life, the part that you're
playing in this movie.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
So even though I was talking a good game, and
I don't mean that I was acting because when I've
been doing readings, every time I tell somebody, yeah, I'm
coming from pure intentions. I always want the reading to
help the person, whether they you know, they like the
message or not. So I don't want to say I
was acting it, but I did miss the mark. What
shan ben I did was she made me love my

(35:31):
kidnapper because when she told me, listen, I don't want
you to go on anything. Do not tell my story
unless if you understand the love, because I don't want.
I don't not only do I want nobody to get
in trouble. I my my whole, everyone in my that
I love, his life has been ruined. I signed up
in this lifetime to die at six years old because

(35:53):
I agreed to this because I wanted everyone to learn love.
That was what she was here for. Everyone missed the mark,
and then she so she said, don't you know this
is not about you. You're not gonna go on anyone's
podcast or or tell anybody. Don't don't tell anybody about
me if you can't get love. So I said, no,
I got it, but she knew I didn't. So she

(36:15):
made me like I said, I don't know how in
that moment, I wasn't thinking about my kidnapper. When I
said to her, O can I get it? And she
knew I didn't. One second later, my kidnapper. I felt
my kidnapper, but I felt love for my kidnapper, which
I've never experienced. It was a feeling and it was
when I was interacting with her. So when she did

(36:36):
that to me, then I got it because until I
felt that I no longer had because I'm not out
to get him anymore. I was not. I want him
to live a sensational love, a life of love. So
when I got that, Okay, that was the difference. So
I think that because I could feel it, because if

(37:00):
I didn't hate somebody so much, think about that, because I,
like you said, if I wasn't eating Michelin Star food
all the time, you know, then I'm not craving macaroni
and cheese or you never had macari cheese, don't even
know what it is? Wait, you can. You can boil
something from a box and then you can eat it
eleven minutes later and kind of like it, and but
it's terrible for you. Okay, let's try it. So I

(37:24):
had to hate. I had to be like that, that person,
that kind of I had a crazy life. Now I'm
fifty seven, I think I'm on a mission. I'm gonna
go after my kidnapper. You know. So she chose me
because you know, again, I'm not so special, But she
chose me because she thought, okay, I can maybe get
through to her because she hates him so much that

(37:44):
now she actually came public a year ago, so she's
on a mission. So I'm gonna tell I'm gonna teach
a nets and love. She did it, So that is
the difference. That was the difference. So again I'm not
so special. She chose me because I was, because I
wasn't getting the message.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
So you were prime, you were primed, you were primed
for her. Yes, that's something I've noticed with the other
side is that when they come through, they come through
or affect people who are prepared for the message. Yes,
they don't pick anybody. And the circumstances of your life
primed you as a perfect candidate to receive this understanding

(38:24):
and be a tool of the of her on the
other side to kind of spread this message and this message.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
You know, think about it. Miles primed me too, because Miles,
who I wouldn't who I would not have agreed to
do because I, again, I was actually working on a
missing child case when my client reached out to me
and I and I don't really ever take on two
cases at that time because then I it's too much,
Well it's too much, and then I think, Okay, if
I got a detailed wrong, then that I don't think why,
I just am a human being. I got it wrong.
I'm like, well, why would I mix two big cases?

(38:52):
So I would instantly have said no. Miles made me
say yes. While I was saying yes, I thought, what
am I? Why am I agreeing to this? Okay, Miles?
And then Miles made easy because Miles said I'm gonna
do it all the work. He did make it easy.
Miles set me up for them when the Jean Benet
thing happened, because I wouldn't, you know, There's been a
lot of people who have asked me about her throughout
my life. I've never gone there, but I don't know why.

(39:14):
I just and I would say, well, I'm you know,
so busy, you know, helping missy children. I don't have
time because I actually wasn't brave enough to even look
at why I'm not going to go there. But I
wasn't ready to go there until Miles happened. He taught
me love in a different way. He primed me because
he's so loving. And then she then so it's it's

(39:35):
so interesting.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Your your frequency seems to have risen at all because
love is the highest frequency. So that's what the that's
what the hotel clerk. Yes, yes, you don't know it.
You don't feel it, yes, but people do pick up
on that energy.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Is at the same way you walk into a room
and you meet somebody and you're just like, ooh, I
want to take a shower right right? The energy so happy,
right and right negative and things like that. So that's
what people are picking up I wanted to. We were
talking about changes happening so much and people not being
able to adapt. It almost sounds like humanity right now.

(40:12):
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or exhibition exit X you know what I'm saying. Expedition
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(40:38):
and now back to the show. It seems like humanity
is getting the bends right now because things are changing
so much. You're not We're not able to acclimate fast enough.
Throughout history we've been able to change this happen. It's
very slowly.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Time you're time to get used to it, or from.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
So from the movies to VHS, from VHS to the
video store, from the video store to DVDs. These are years, decades, yes,
then streaming shows up, and then yes, movie music, and
then all of a sudden it start. Now it's so
fast that you can't even write catch up anymore, you know.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
I it's it's interesting, I said to my husband. So
recently I was watching Netflix and it kept popping up
on my kind of newest TV. As of October fourth,
your Netflix will no longer work. It's not gonna be
compatible with your TV. And I go, this is a
scam because it's the new TV. So on October third,
at twelve o one, I purposely stayed up watching and

(41:37):
I said, I'm gonna sure enough twelve o one my
show stopped. I'm like, no, I need a new TV. Okay,
so we get the new TV. My twenty eight year
ol daughter's like, you need to streaming me TV. I'm like,
I'm pretty sure I don't. She's like, yes, you do,
so you get it. I call Verizon because now I
need a whole different box. This whole thing. My husband
said to me, if my poor parents were alive, they

(41:58):
would know my father would not be able to watch
a ball game any longer because he would not understand.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Oh, it's too complicated.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
I can't. I don't even I can only watch even
though my TV can do everything. And my daughter's like, okay, Mom,
you're either gonna stop watching TV or because I'm not
asking you any longer, how to get on channel four,
how to get on Dateline or to watch Netflix. Okay,
I told you ninety four times. I can't even get it.
So it is because you're right. The world is going

(42:26):
so fast now that we can't keep up, and then
it is too much and we do feel overwhelmed.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
And the older generations are like, you know, you and
I are of similar vintage, so you know we were
you know we were we saw what the seventies, you
saw the sixty l sixties and seventies and eighties. We
were in a generation we have two hands, we have
two feet in both both sides, one pre internet, one
post Internet. Yes, so we we actually were right in

(42:51):
the middle where where that transition generation. But the older
like my parents generate, they it's getting so difficult for them,
and even for our generation, it's it's moving so fast
that we're just like son of a oh yeah, where
my kids are like.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
If that's what I mean so like he said, if
his parents were alive, he said, my father, they could
not watch TV because I can barely watch TV. Okay,
so you're right, So so it is hard. So if
you so, if those things, those daily things, those daily
technological advances are too much, then imagine like when human

(43:29):
things happen, when you fight with your husband or wife,
or you have financial problems, not okay, the things that
used to be able to you know, yo, I also
got I readid my kitschen. I got a new microwave.
My husband's like, order a microwave. I said, okay, yeah, whatever.
I called him ninety four times at work. I'm like, okay,
you don't. You don't just get a microwave. It has
an air fire, has an oven. He goes, we just
make popcorn. Get the I go, none of them, just

(43:52):
make macworn. Okay. So I got whatever the lowest, the
least amount. I said to my husband, we need to
read the manual. He goes, Hi, I go, you can't
even open it has a child safety You have to know.
It's so crazy.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
But that's just like stuff talking about like the world.
That's I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
So if you think of just a person. Now you
have the stuff happening, but then you have things in
your life happening you could easily.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Unravel because just watch the television. Just watch because it.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
All adds up.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
You know.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
If you can't now you used to be able to
use your micro if now you can't understand it, you
can't watch TV. So those things would help you, really,
phone your phone's not working now, you know everything's.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Your smart house does not working.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Right. If you have a smart house and that goes wrong,
you can't nothing opens your locked inn or whatever. But
then not now, adding your problems at work, you promised
with your navy, your problems with your kids.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
The economy problem, economy is going down, the.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Economy war overwhelmed. Okay, and god forbid.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
If you watch the nightly news every day, yes you
just can shoot yourself. Yes it's crazy, Yes, yes it's crazy.
So then let me ask you. All right, so you
know you are psychic, So I would like to know
what you think is going to happen the rest of
this year and what's going to happen. I think closing
out this decade because I've heard what's coming. I talk

(45:16):
about it on the show a lot. Because a lot
of people are very worried about it, but I try
to frame it in a way to understand what this
is going to be and how to deal with it
as it moves forward. Because we've all had challenges in
our life. We've all had challenging, challenging times. You know,
the economy has not always been We went through two
thousand and eight, the crash of two thousand and eight,

(45:37):
you know, the different crashes in the nineties. You know,
the eighties was this big boom. The seventies remember when
you know you couldn't even get gas, all of these things.
So we have been through challenging times before, but it's
it's never been on all on all you know, platforms
at the same time, right, you know, it's the economy,
it's war, it's religion, it's medical, it's entertainment, it's media,

(46:02):
like all things are changing so fast. So i'd love
to hear what you think.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Well, so that's really interesting that you're saying that, because
when I was on last time, I said something on
your podcast that I had never said to anybody ever.
Really it happens, and I thought, why would I say
something like that? So I so we talked about the election.
We talked about I was kind of involved in, you know,
I was involved in uh some intel with the assassination
attempt from in the beginning. And then I and then

(46:29):
you said, we've talked about You said, so you so
I'm getting in that you're stick gonna say that Trump's
not gonna win or Harris. And I said, yes when
I when I in hin state, when I think about it,
I answered it wrong. But that I said, I don't
know why I said I said, and I have actually
not only I think he's not gonna win and I
think she will win. I've never been wrong about an

(46:51):
election in all my years, since I was a kid. Ever,
I would never brag. I don't because even if it's true,
you know, I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
It's a fifty to fifty shot. Let's just call it
what it is. Yeah, it's a fifty fifty shot.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
You know. I sometimes when I do a reading, I
joke around and say, listen, if I was a vacuum
cleaner salesman, there's no warranty on this. I am not
guaranteeing this. When I made that prediction, you could imagine,
oh when it happened. Oh yeah, the first thing I
did was had an emergency meeting with my spirit gut.

(47:26):
I'm like, are you kidding me? Why would you let
me do this? That was a lesson for me too,
because what I kept telling everybody is nothing less forever,
we gotta go through changes. I missed the mark didn't matter,
and I kept saying, it doesn't matter who's the president.
But I wasn't even Actually again, I was saying, it

(47:48):
doesn't matter who's the president, but I'm gonna predict it
what I should have done, and I said, listen, whoever
we want, whoever you think, doesn't matter, because for four years,
the universe knows what it's doing. It knows who needs
to be Whether you like Donald Trump or not. If
whoever ends up winning that day, the universe is not
making a mistake. Okay, so we don't need to recount

(48:09):
ballots whatever. Whether you like him or not, who cares.
It is what it is. Because even in my own life,
a lot of things, like you said, change, But I
actually can see, like I actually talk about saying love,
Donald Trump got love today for me. You know, I'm
just loving the world because I understand that all of

(48:30):
the things that are happening all the very challenging things
because I do think that what the universe, the reason
why we're having all these changes one on top of
the other that's making us as humanity panic is because
humanity is saying, Okay, we've given you guys long enough,
honestly to get your act together, and you haven't. So
now we realize we can't just keep it at snail's pace.

(48:52):
You know, you don't have you know, ten years in
between DVDs and then you know, so now we're gonna
just bat We're gonna you know, we're gonna do opposite.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
That is just the equivalent of us, you know, as
as humans, as a soul. Here in this incarnation, we
get from the universe a tap on the shoulder, correct,
a whisper, a whisper, hey, maybe you should do this.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Yeah, And as we by.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
The way, by the way, and maybe a little little tap,
little push, and we continue to not listen, and every
single time we don't listen, a little louder, it's a
little louder, a little harder tap till the sledge hammer.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Comes, until you pushed down the stairs.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Right or into a car accident.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
So sorry, we didn't mean I told you fifty times
you didn't get it right right.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
So that's what's happening to humanity right now. We're at
the sledgehammer moment.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Yes, So what I do believe is I so the
presidential election again, which I missed the mark, which again
who cares? Who won? The right person? One? And again
a lot of people are gonna not love what I
have to say. But it doesn't matter who's what their
name is, okay, because if we if we believe in love,
we believe in the bigger picture. I actually believe it

(50:01):
because you can talk it. But if you're still defensive
and you're so you want to fight everything, I believe
that all of these things that are gonna happen are
happening because the universe is saying, okay, you know what,
everybody who's not getting it, we're gonna bombard you because
you need to just understand, trust and love, live your
life that way. Because like you, we mentioned the economy

(50:24):
a little bit last time, and when I was about
to say something you still listen to, I just want
to say a net we're due. You know, this is
the history books. Every eight years, we're ten years overdue.
So whatever you're going to predict you might be this psychic,
but you don't need to be psychic because we're overdue. Okay,
you're right.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
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And now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
All of the things that are gonna happen, all the challenge,
all the wars, all all of the problems is about
I think us evolving to that next level. But I
what I did say on your show last time, I
believe that a couple of years that not only will
we have all these changes, but I believe that like aliens.
And again I said, and I'll talk about aliens because

(51:15):
because I thought, well, I don't have time for aliens.
You know, I'm so busy finding missing children. Forget aliens again,
miss the picture. Can't forget aliens. Because alien I've had
experience with that. I don't talk about it often because
people think, oh, you know, that's kind of weird. But
I believe that now. And actually, when I did your show,
then that drone stuff in New Jersey happened. I live

(51:35):
in New Jersey. Everybody's like, oh my god, my cousin's okay,
my husband's cousins, this big Italian family, right, We're like,
oh my God, you predicted these these These are not drones, right,
these are the aliens. I'm like, my husband's like, could
you just do like a family you know, you know,
get all my family members on one chat and let's

(51:57):
just you know, take care of this. I said, well,
but wait a minute, viny, you know they're onto something.
Because the thing is is I believe that That's the
next thing when I said about the aliens that I
just touched on that I believe because we're not gonna
get it that now aliens are like, huh, okay, let's
let's let's let's deal with these earthlings, you know, these idiots.
You know, we gotta take a stop over. We're gonna

(52:17):
we gotta drop it a little bit because because the
the universe needs our help, because they really aren't getting it.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
So I think that first contact.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Yes, that has to happen. So I do believe that,
like when you said, what is going to happen, I
think that that we will feel individual people will feel
like their life is more than a pressure cooker individually.
I'm not saying that to make anybody panic. I'm saying
that to recognize that that like, no, yes, it is okay,
it is an a pressure cooker. Now what am I
gonna do about that? Let's have a plan. But let

(52:48):
me stop panicking, like when I decided with my kidnapper
that when I got this information, that it lives not
too far from me, and I'm gonna do all these
things and tell my story. I missed the market. I
didn't realize love because I wasted a year and a
half of my time being angry. If I if I
would have came on to anybody's podcasts and told my
story out of love, think about that, because that was

(53:10):
my That's what I was supposed to do. What not
not throw more missiles at this guy? But I should
have I should have learned and and and sent love.
So I believe that now aliens come and all this
thing happened, and and Donald Trump and all of these
crazy things, so that we we can manage our lives better,

(53:30):
we can love better, we can evolve better. So I
do think that it is about us all taking personal
responsibility and looking at our lives, whatever pressure crooker we're in,
and then you may change this long way. Because a
lot of people are gonna have a lot of financial problems,
a lot of jobs are going to change. I told
you last time that I believe that like medicine's gonna change.
I absolutely believe it has to. Okay, it has to.

(53:55):
It's not I said, I don't believe we're going to
take pills any longer. You know, surgeries will change. But
I believe that everything will happen even faster than I thought,
because I believe again, Jean Benay didn't come to me
because she has nothing better to do. And and you know,
she came to me so that I got it because
she thought, Okay, she's not gonna stop going on podcasts,
so let's get her to say the right thing. So

(54:16):
you know, we're gonna give you another opportunity to finally
because we don't want you to send the wrong message,
and we don't want anyone to go after this guy
that did this to you either. You want you're telling
everybody you want to help people, that you're here, that
you're gonna change people's lives, But how are you changing
them if your life isn't changed. So I get it now.
So all these things happen, like you said, so humanity

(54:38):
vibrates higher so that we do get it, so that
while we're here, doesn't matter the time from six years old,
if you're miles in your early you know, late thirties, whatever,
because your time frame doesn't matter, is how you spend it,
and that's what matters. And I think that that is
the whole message, because if you're able to live an
involved life enough where I think that I'm kind of evolved.

(55:00):
Let's say I don't know more than the average person
who knows don't know, but yeah, kind of evolved. But
I'm but I'm understanding more because now I'm I'm understanding
that I absolutely don't know anything, Okay, So I'm open
to learning. And I think that that's what people should
do when you go through a difficult time, say you know,
show me what I don't know, help me, help me

(55:21):
see it from a different way where I don't feel
like a victim. Or if I am having financial problems,
I don't need to panic. I understand I need to
go through it for a different reason. If that means
I have to downsize my house, maybe, if that means
I'm my credit score is going to be head for
a while. Maybe do I need to get a job.
Maybe be open to these things have to happen. Like
you said, your spirit, guid whomever for a while is

(55:42):
whispering in your ear. You're not paying attention. So if
all of a sudden you have a shift in your job,
it's it's not me as universe is trying to pick
on you. The universe is helping you. We don't think
of it that way.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
I mean when I I've had two staff positions in
my entire life, fired from both.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Probably too too many, right, oh.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Way too many. It happened when I was a young
young man. Money was crazy back then. It was the nineties. Yeah,
but it was, uh, you know, I got let go
of I got let go of one job, and I
was already preparing to kind of open up my own shop.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
You should say you're welcome.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
I was, and they and they. I probably would have
not moved from that job because the money was so good.
Of course, the money was so good. It was I
could do it the job in myself to get fired.
And the second I got fired, two days later, I
got another another gig, and then I opened up a
shop three months later, and it was it was all
part of the plan. If I wouldn't have had that

(56:40):
new supervisor show up who did not like me and
did not wanted to be out because I was the
most I was the most expensive editor by thirty grand
of anybody else in the department. Then I wouldn't have
been able to do what I was able to do.
So those kind of moments, when those moments show up,
understand that there's not happening to you but for you.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
For that's the that's.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
The key, that's the key for you. So you mentioned
the economy. That's something that I mean, as of this recording,
the stock market's starting to get really really kind of
sensitive about what's happening with the tariffs and what's happening
with the economy and all the stuff that's happening in Washington.
So where do you see this happening for the rest
of this year.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Well, here's what I would think about it. So what
I I recently said that I'm a young woman who's
friends with my daughter and she said to me, you know,
I've known her since she was a kid. So she
pops into my house she's like, just tell I don't
don't do a reading. Am I ever going to meet him?
And if I'm not just telling me, I said, I
go stop thinking like that. You just want one husband, right,
she was, yes, I stop thinking like you're you're not.

(57:46):
You just need to find one guy. Okay, you're thinking
too big. So like when people ask like that question,
I say, don't think about the world's money. You're not
You're not in charge of the world's checkbook. Okay, you
are not balancing the world's debit card. You just need
to worry about you. So when you think about yourself
and how are you gonna manage, don't worry about the

(58:08):
second market because ninety five percent of whatever's on the
stock Mart you you don't even own any of it anyways. Okay,
so what do he care? Worry about your individual stuff,
and then you're good because think about it. If gas
goes up, yeah, gas it that matters. That matters to
a lot of people. But I don't have a fleet
of trucks. Okay, I have one car and I don't
drive it very often. So if I allow myself to

(58:31):
get freaked out, like my husband actually does get freaked
don He's like, oh my god, do you know how
much gas costs? I said, I actually don't even know
what it starts with. He goes, what I go, I
have no I honest to god, Alex Okay, I'm a psychic.
If you told me, I'll give you a million dollars.
You tell me how much gas is a gallon in
New Jersey. I don't know if it starts with the
two or three or four or five, I don't know.

(58:52):
I actually do not know. Okay, I can find a
missing child or a dead body. I don't know what
guess starts with. So my that joys my husband. I said, well,
you don't even drive mariage very much either. Why do
you care? Why are you so think about that? So
if we just care about what we need to care
about and not solving the world's problems, and because think
about it, Yes, the economy matters, but we are not

(59:16):
in the economy's bank. We have to worry about our
own money. So we take it on and then we
stress out about like you know, the index five hundred.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Well, it's it's the equivalent of us worrying about a
war that's happening across the across the world. Like to
have empathy, obviously, yes, but it's we have absolutely powerless
to do, yes, anything to really change it.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
And let's understand that that's happening for whatever reason it
needs to and so yes, you can think about it,
you can read about it, you can have empathy, but
put it in its proper place in your life, because
don't let that be your main focus. That now you
can't even function, because if you're so worried about you know,
I have a lot of people, I mean many people
contacting me about you know. I was on a podcast

(01:00:02):
I told you before you where I predicted something about
the economy which was not about a recession of depression.
It was about you know, money changing, like you know,
the way we would interact with money. Yeah, so I
must have explained it wrong or maybe not. People panicked,
and even to this day, people are like, oh my god,
I wanted to retire, but then I saw that podcast.
I go, do not take financial advice for me. Do

(01:00:22):
not not retire because of anything I said on a podcast,
because I didn't mean it that way.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
But I said, also, think about this, if you have
already been taking enough measures in your own life and
you can retire, retire, don't panic because again we don't
need to take it along. So like, yes, when you
say about the economy, and you, like you said before,
it's predictable because we don't need a psychic to Dallas.
Because we it is cyclical, it will happen. But if

(01:00:59):
we if you need to have a job to pay
your bills, get a job. Okay, don't be like, oh
my god, the economy is so bad. You know, if
you need to buy, if you're a young couple, you
need to buy a house, and the interest rates are
high by house, Okay, don't necessarily wait for them to
go down. So don't be so consumed with every detail
of the world, because that's not our job. Let's do you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
But by watching the nightly news and cable news and
things like that, you start to feel, especially if you're
in an echo chamber, and even on social media, you
just keep getting fed the same thing, like if you
like CNN, you're gonna watch CNN. If you like Fox,
You're gonna watch Fox. Right, And if you just stay
in those worlds, all the world is little watch thirty minutes, yes, correct,

(01:01:44):
and the world's coming to an end.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
You know what's interesting?

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
So why about three months ago decided I wanted a
few things in my life to change, and I don't
you know, I don't profess to be like a you know,
a master manifestor because I don't even know I would
worry it that way. I feel like I know what
I want and I get what I want. But you know,
not accidentally. I would work hard, but I just don't
even I just know that it will happen for whatever reason.
So I but three months ago, I decided I wanted

(01:02:08):
serious things to change, and I said to my spirit, Okay,
how is this gonna happen? And he goes, you gotta
change your thoughts, I go. I actually, I actually said
to my spirit. Good obviously goes, And it's not obvious
because you're asking how are you gonna do it? You
have to change your thoughts, he goes, because your thoughts
are trained. So all you've done was change your end goal.
But if you don't change your thoughts, So to answer

(01:02:31):
your question, while you're watching the nightly news, okay, so
you know last night when you watch at six o'clock,
you panicked. Okay, so if you turn it on at
six oh one tonight, because you still think the same
things you thought before, so you're ready to panic. But
why don't you turn it on thinking I'm gonna turn
it on because I'm gonna maybe learn something different than
I did last night. I'm not gonna panic tonight. I'm

(01:02:52):
gonna take in the information differently, process it differently, and
allow my thoughts to change as the result of it,
because everything is an opportunity to think different, which I
don't think we do. And when when again I had
that epiphany that I had to change my thoughts, I
actually because your thoughts are are are habits, so you

(01:03:13):
had to literally change your thoughts. Like every time I
was thinking, I had to remind myself, no, no, those are
old thoughts.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
But those thoughts are frequencies, right, They're literally electrical pulses
put out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
So think about this. I actually am a person who
who again, not that I think I'm an expert, but
kind of, because I tell everybody I think I vibrate high.
I do, and that's why I think I can do
this work. So again the part I was missing my mark.
I was vibrating really high, but I wasn't changing my
thoughts fast enough in real time. So even though so

(01:03:47):
so only because I think of who I am, because
of the life, the work I do, and that I
can change my very my frequency very high, kind of
lucked out that things are working my way, but I'm
working too hard, I'm swimming backwards. I can also raise
my frequency and my thoughts. Okay, changeing, that's the key.
You get there instantly, so you know, as an outsider

(01:04:11):
watching the world happen, stop everybody, stop panicking. Take this
moment to realize that anything. If you are one of
those people that are really really worried about the economy,
remind yourself that you're not the bookkeeper of the world.
You don't have to balance the books. You worry about
your own life, your own finances, and do the things
that you need to, and don't worry about the economy

(01:04:33):
so much, because that's why you can't make decisions. That's
why you're you can't make an investment, you're you know,
because yes, you're making decisions out of fear or not
making decisions out of out of fear.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Yes, yes, And that's and I think that's where everyone's
starting to get I mean that fight or flight is
ones twenty four to seven now, yes, and it seems
to just getting more ramped up. That's why I feel
that there's so much, so many people cracking literally cracking,
literally literally cracking mentally, emotionally, they're just stressed out, they

(01:05:07):
don't understand what to do, and then they search for
conversations like this because they're looking for answers that they're
not getting anywhere else. So since we since I've launched
Next levels ol TVR streaming platform, you know, we're in
the media business, right and this interview show is obviously
this podcast is in the media as well. There has

(01:05:29):
been a tremendous amount of change in media, but in
media and social media. But where do you see the
traditional like news organization, studios, television, movies.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
I think this is it. I'll tell you that. So
I think you're a genius without recognizing that you're a
genius because all the work that you do, as you've
been doing it, you know, because you know, even though
you have an end goal or end plan, let's say,
sometimes we don't even have it, or it's constantly about
so as you do your daily work and it builds

(01:06:02):
and builds and builds. I think this is it. I
think that as because think about this, you're able to
be as successful as you are and do new things
that nobody has even thought of because you are in
line with the changes that are occurring because you're you know,
you're you're on the cutting edge. You see, you know
people that are into the latest Apple phone or whatever.

(01:06:25):
It is like you can envision things before anybody else can.
So you're right there. You you know, you got fired
from those two jobs early in your life, and you
had the life to build this up because you're You're it.
You're our new media. I don't think that people are
going to watch you know, the shows that we had
been watching are no longer going to exist because people
want they need to calm down. The reason why people

(01:06:48):
come to people like you and watch this is because
they don't want take xanax anymore. Their psychiatrist is not working,
talking to the neighbors not working, and hearing different experiences
from different people in a way that does hit the mark,
that hits home, that is a game changer is where
I believe it will be. So I feel like this

(01:07:09):
is how things are gonna be. It's gonna be more
like this. I don't think that there's going to be
many even news stations on it, like a CNN won't
even be around much longer because people they're die hard
CNN people once they have a mental breakdown, Okay, they're
not gonna have the they can't watch in it anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
They're barely I mean the ratings are well, that's what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
But even Whoever's number one pretty soon because we can't
take it on anymore, because we can't manage our own life.
So now people like watching you is like having a
nice cup of warm hot tea in a nice warm blanket.
You know, when when you're your your fever's coming down
and you're not, You're like, you feel like I got this.
I'm I'm I'm recovering. I'm getting better. I am. Because

(01:07:52):
you know, when you're really sick, you're like, I can't
ever imagine feeling healthy again. You know, I'm in the
middle of the flu. I'm on day three. I can't
walk to the How am I going to get in
my car and drive to work? But pretty soon, once
you start feeling better, you're like, oh, okay to my
own self. So I think your show these kind of
things will put like news organizations out of business because
it is so sensationalized. It and but and people kind

(01:08:15):
of like it the drama. But because we are now
not able to manage our own lives. We can't watch
it any longer because it does make us crack. So
I think it's people will feel like everything's being piled
on them, but for a reason, because the universe is like, okay,
we have actually literally given you guys a long time.
Let's get it going. And you know, like COVID. When

(01:08:36):
we talked about COVID, I said, COVID happened for a reason,
and a lot of people died. That was terrible, but
it changed the world because we all got to have
dinner together, you know, we got to work from home,
we got to do puzzles, and if you look at
it that way, so not just the terrible things that
you So I think it's the time for us to
do some self inventory, to to realize what is our
trigger points. Oh my god, I'm so worried about the economy.

(01:08:57):
But why am I worried? Because I have a million
dollars in the bank and I don't have it. You know,
I don't have a mortgage and I'm more than okay,
So it doesn't matter what the stock market is, okay,
So let me just take that off my to do list.
I don't need to be freaked out. So if we
start doing that for ourselves individually, the panic stops like
it's going on and it just helps us evolve. Does
that make sense?

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Yeah, it makes It makes all the sense in the world.
I mean, well, let me ask you this. Where do
you think we talked about news organizations? But how about
just movies? The world is changing, Like right now, the
number one streaming platform in the world is what what
do you think it is?

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Netflix? No? What YouTube? Oh? Well, you know I was
gonna say. The only reason I didn't say that is
I was gonna say because I do believe this is it.
This is this is where it's going to be. This
to me, I don't think the world yet knows that
this is new TV, this is TV, but this is

(01:09:55):
literally it. So I don't believe that. Yeah, there will
be movies, but I don't think they're gonna be like
movies like we used to see. I think it's gonna
be movies like documentaries about.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
You know, everybody's humanity raising their vibration. I don't know
that you're gonna see a rom com six years from
now I don't know that the latest I girl will
be you know, like you know again working with her,
you know, love interests and they're just friends. And at
the end of the by the end of the two
hour movie, you know, they're they're they fell in love.
Oh my god, you're my Nobody's gonna care about those things.

(01:10:41):
It's gonna be this, it's gonna be YouTube, it's gonna
be you, it's gonna be humanity in us. That's what
we're gonna be interested in.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
I mean, no more comes. No.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
My husband loves I said, I don't want to feel
happy at the end. I want to I want you know, I.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
Want out of business.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
I know are already yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, they
just think about it. If we're not going to be
vibrating that way, because you know, we're not gonna because
people are not in that silly entertaining me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Well, let's put it this way for people to understand.
In Roman times, entertainment was the Colosseum. You're onto something
where your body, yes, so the colosseum was the entertainment.
What was entertainment watching people basically be destroyed and ripped apart,
literally limb to limb cutting heads off. That was pure entertainment.

(01:11:33):
Then that evolved to public hangings and public beatings and
all that kind of stuff. Crucifixions, all that stuff. That
was what that was on Saturday Night. Yeah, but that
was literally brought children, literally children everyone. Let's take a
look at this guy going to getet killed tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
So that was where humanity was vibrating and their frequency
at that time. If you would show that to people today, people,
most human beings would be horrified, horrified by even things
from fifty years ago. Yes, yes, one hundred years ago.

(01:12:09):
We would be horrified. The lynchings at Salem, all that
that kind of stuff, with the witch trials all that,
or the Inquisition or that would be horrified because we
were Now we're vibrating at a higher frequency.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
So it's unacceptable. We can't even imagine that anybody would have,
you know, even in my lifetime. So I recently again
because now that I have a new TV and I
don't know how to use it, I have limited choices,
and though my daughter reminds me, I don't. I recently
watched a series that was on TV like from fifteen
years ago, but I never watched it. It was really
populayor so when I was watching it, I said to

(01:12:48):
my husband, isn't it insane that fifteen years ago they
could say this stuff? Oh, nowadays, okay, you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Can't say anything.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Yeah, first of all, I said, in even us, okay,
now you can't do that. So that's why I think that,
like the things that we watch, which people are like, well,
that doesn't make sense, Well it does because you're right.
If you go back to Roman times and what we
thought was entertainment, now we're like, they're okay, horror.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Sick, what kind of But that will happen in one
hundred years. Yes, they'll look back at this time and
going oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
Right, And I think that that's what I mean. So
like rom coms are like the silly nonsense because again,
if you if you watch something from ten years ago,
you're going to be surprised the language they used, the
things they were able to get away with on TV
or say or do that. Now people are like, that's
terrible because we evolved, so we are going to continue.
So the things that we think are acceptable are no

(01:13:43):
longer going to be. So everything like that will change,
but it used to.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
But it will happen in a much faster time period.
That's why you're saying like six years from now, boom,
things are gonna are change.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
Yeah and yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
So then in these other, these other areas of our lives,
So religion that seems to be changing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
I think religion want to even exist. I think what
will happen? So when you're like an it come on,
because I think a lot of people now you know,
when I was a kid, you know, you were identified
by your Hey, yeah you're Catholic, you whatever, Catholic people say, Well,
I how many people do you say I am a
recovering Catholic or whatever? Me too, you know, I believe

(01:14:28):
in what I believe, which is a mish mash of odell.
I think most people feel that way. So I think
that as people die off, you know, like my grandmother,
let's say, who was Catholic? Okay, she's not here anymore.
Pretty soon when you're a Catholic, Now all these Catholics
from that generation die. Now you have younger people, and

(01:14:49):
they're just mishmash of what I believe. Because don't label
me as Catholic or whatever because I'm I'm different. Things
that won't even exist, you know, recently a lot of
people brought up the Pope to me because you know,
he's sick and all this stuff. And I thought, isn't
it interesting that people that don't care, let's say, about
the Catholic religion anymore longer, are still so interested in

(01:15:11):
the Pope. But how about other people too? So I
so I just you know, I sit back and I
would answer questions or whatever about this, but I thought,
pretty soon you won't nobody will care about those things
because it dies off we think differently. So I think
religion morphs into not sectors of what we call them,
but we as a human, as an evolved human being,

(01:15:35):
you know, because pretty soon I'm not gonna I'm out
of business because I no one's gonna need me because
they I'm almost putting myself single handedly putting myself out
of business.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
Now let me ask you this though, and this is
something that I found in my journey. I have been
going to psychic since I was in my teens. It
is cultural for me as a Latino, it's just embedded.
You know, Mom's like got to go because it ant
something and she's going to tell you your future. When
I was so young, even in my twenties. The reason

(01:16:07):
why I searched out, and I'd love to hear your
thoughts on this. The reason I searched out psychic is
because I was terrified of the future. I was terrified
of the unknown, right, so I constantly needed reassurance.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
It's an addiction almost about then, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
That I'm like, what's going to happen? When am I
going to meet my When am I when is my
mentor going to show up? When am I going to
make it big as a director? When? And I kept?
I kept, I kept because it was so insecure and
so terrified. Well, as you become more evolved, like I
literally now have in my phone some of the greatest
psychics in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
You and I think other than Happy Friday, you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
I never, ever, I've never called you and go and
that I need a reading. It's I can, and I
know you would give me one, but it's not something
I search anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
It's because as you get it now, it doesn't mean
if you're constant needing the answers. Okay, because I tell
people think about this. The reason to come to me
is not because I'm your therapist, you because you are
struggling in one area or to areas so much and
you are trying to do self invitory, you can't get there,
so you need a little help. If you're a headache

(01:17:16):
and you don't want to take a tile and all,
maybe you need to, so you'll take one and and okay,
usually get whatever. So you may need me because you
can't get pass this humping, so let's let me help you. Okay,
that's fine. But other than that, everything you need is
within you. Because because again, when these challenges take place,
instead of being like son of a uh, why is

(01:17:39):
this happening, remind yourself it's happening for a reason. And
now dig deep and say, okay, if I don't know
the reason why it's happening, because we might not know
the reason for years, right or until we're on the
other side, which is fine, so let's not worry about
the reason. But now let's say, how am I going
to manage this? Because this is I'm not I don't
have time to get mad, get confused or poor me.

(01:18:01):
This is because change is happening, so so be ready. Okay,
because the universe has been telling me for a while,
so be ready. Because all the answers are within and
they are, so I you know, I tell people all that,
not always, but more recently. Listen, they're like, when can
I call you again? I go, well, you can call
me anytime anytime you need me, but you also don't

(01:18:23):
need to call me, because again I am not telling
anybody usually anything they don't already know. I tell people
all the time the person that is the most surprised
in the reading is me because I don't know you.
So I'm like, WHOA, you're doing what you know? But
you know because you're confirming. So what you're surprised about
is the future things I'm telling you, But you don't
even need me to tell you because the future is

(01:18:44):
still gonna happen and you'll know wh're you just supposed
to know. So I tell people you can contact me
whenever you need to, but you don't need to, and
try to manage the panic that you have that feels
like you're incapable of getting to the other side, because
you absolutely are.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
But the thing, the biggest message of this entire conversation
is something that I preach constantly to people, is that
the power is within you. I mean, one of the
et masters right there, Jesus said that like everything I
could do, you could do it more. But the thing
that that I find so fascinating is when you are

(01:19:22):
the people's pain, and now we're going into Buddhism, people's
pain is because they associate or give their power away
to things outside of them. Yes, so it's their career,
it's that person, it's that thing of my car. If
anything happens to my car, my life is over. Anything
happens to my job, my life is over. This person
leaves me, like my job's over if the economy the

(01:19:44):
stock market crash. Right, So they've given their power to
the outside world, which is an absolute recipe for disaster
within your life because you can't control anything outside of you.
Our ego says we can't, but we truly have no
power other than how we think, yes, and what is

(01:20:05):
inside of us. So that's why when you see these
masters who have had the pleasure of interviewing, speaking to,
and being in the presence of you see these masters
who are completely grounded within themselves, right, and all the
answers are within themselves. They're able to tap that stuff in.
Then the outside world literally there could be in the
middle of a storm and they are just as peaceful.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Listen, they're sitting there underneath the tree. The hurricane's going on,
and there's not a hair that's moving on their head
because it's not affecting them.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
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Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
You know, I have an interesting, you know, embarrassing thing
to admit. I so I came into Austin for a
few days to come on the show. But I also
came because I was going to do a photo shoot.
You know, don't even take selfie. So I thought, you
know what, I'm gonna up my game around. I get
a new website. You know. She said, you gotta get
a couple of pictures. I said, I don't have any sues.
You have a professional. Well, so I did it. So

(01:21:10):
I had this whole photo shoot thing. Whatever. I show
up yesterday and everything just went south. I said to
somebody that came with me, that you know, accompanying me, uh,
you know, my business manager. Let's say I said in
the morning, it's gonna go wrong. It's not gonna go
We're gonna actually be back in the hotel and you're
gonna be my photographer. Scues stop thinking negative. I go listen. Yeah,

(01:21:32):
I said, listen, nobody wants to work better than me.
It's not going to I just know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
So you knew, So you knew before you walked in
that there was something. You didn't know what was gonna
go wrong, but you knew something was yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
Right, and because so and I think the reason again
the universe is telling me is like, have a game plan,
because you're still gonna get your pictures. It's still gonna
get him the way you did. But but what's interesting
is that not only did it okay, so that happened,
but then something happened with me in this person the
photographer that okay. So not only did it not go right,
then there was like money involved and so the whole

(01:22:06):
thing went south. All right, So that person's not going
to do it. We made makeshift whatever, which are fabulous.
And now we have this hanging money issue. And I
was really angry about it last night, and I don't
really get angry about money and I and I kept thinking,
how can this person doesn't see obviously who I see?
You owe me my money back. You know I paid
for service, you didn't provide it. I should get my

(01:22:27):
money back. I said this morning on the way over
here to my business Marriager. I said, you know what,
maybe that person needed money. So maybe when that listen
two days ago before Jan Berenet taught me love, would
not have been thinking that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
And that wouldn't it be? It does happen to me
a lot of times too in my life. I think
it happens to a lot of people that there's a
money issue. If you don't get a refund, right, doesn't
come back a lot of stuff. As I started to do,
I started to let go of those things. And as
if you start to let go of the things in love,
did you get back threefold? Fourfold? It's just the way

(01:23:04):
it is. If you get caught up in the moment,
you just gotta go just trust right, right, have faith.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
Right, You'll be fine, right right. Because like when I
had that feeling in the morning, it was gonna work
out and I was resigned to it. So I so
I actually went through the motions. I went to the location.
I actually said to the uber guy, stick around. I
didn't even know how to get him to stick around.
He's like, oh, it's a whole thing with the app.
I go hold on. So my business manager did I go,
can you wait eleven it's gonna take less than eleven

(01:23:32):
minute second. But I gotta see this through. So I did.
I wasn't panied because I just knew what was gonna happen.
But then last night the money thing bothered me until
I realized that, wait a minute, let me stop this,
because whatever's gonna happen with the money is gonna happen.
Who cares. I'm here for a reason. I got what
I needed and then let that go.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
And you'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
And and so so I learn every day. You know,
I think I'm like, oh, but but it because it's
an opportunity to look at it differently. And it changed
my mood. It changed everything because it reminded me because
because then I didn't feel like, oh I got screwed.
I felt like, think about this. Maybe that person, for
whatever reason, needed the money, because you know, we don't

(01:24:11):
know where money's gonna come from. So I so I
book a service. They get the money in the moment
or whatever it answers their thing. Maybe now they can't
pay me back whatever, maybe I don't or they will,
or who knows whatever. So instead of me get so
freaked out about what's gonna happen. Let it just go
for now because and and it changed everything because now

(01:24:32):
I don't even I don't want say I don't care
because by the way, it would like my money back,
but am I not get it back or whatever?

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
It might come back in another way? Yes, right, well,
I mean arguably being on the show you're going to do.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
Okay, ugreed, agreed, agreed.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
I think there might be some energy coming towards you. Correct,
I agree, you know, so it all works, It all
works out in the way it's supposed.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
To right and to not. And it reminded me don't
let my feathers get ruffled. So even though it was
a transaction, I was involved, and then I got mad
and whatever. And I'm not saying, don't get mad.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
If in fifty years does it matter, if on your deathbed,
does it really matter?

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
It doesn't even matter now, right, you know, it didn't
even And again took me this whole Jean Benet thing
to remind me that even that doesn't matter. Who cares,
It doesn't matter because I can still do what I
need to do. It doesn't matter, And let it go
and then let's see what happens. And you're right.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
So I'm going to ask you the same questions I
asked you before. I love to see if the answers
are different that I ask all my guests. What is
your definition of living a fulfilled life?

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
I don't know what I said last time, but now
I say is living from love?

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
If you had a chance to go back in time
and speak to little Annette, what advice would you give her?

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
Same ans are well done and love spread love?

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
How do you define God or source love? What is love?

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
I can't even put it into words. I think before
I thought I was, you know, an expert, because it's again,
I didn't know what love was until Jean and I
put love in my heart for my kidnapper, which is
not words. She's put a feeling, Yeah, you know, just
like my dog when you see my When I see
my dog, I I it's a feeling. My love for

(01:26:20):
my dog is what I It's not the words, Oh here,
come here, Fred, It's how I feel. So when I
felt love for my kidnapper, it was my feeling. So
it's there's no words. It's a feeling. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
It makes If you could ask God or Source one question,
what would it be.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
I don't think I would. I would say I don't
think I would ask a question because I think that
I do believe that things happen with the way they're
supposed to do. And if God in source wants me
to know, they'll let me know. I think I would.
I would. I would just say thank you. I wouldn't
ask the question. I would say save you know, thank

(01:27:03):
you for letting me even talk to you. And I
would say thank you. I don't I don't want to
answer that question.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Love?

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
I feel a theme here?

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Yeah, if I I think I have to go back
and rewatch the first one with you, because I think
it's very different. I don't think I was.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
Oh, it's a very different energy than I.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Can you feel it?

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
There's no question, can you?

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
But Okay, interestingly enough in this you don't obviously have said,
do you. I'm not saying I'm don't know how I'm spreading.
I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
I'll tell you from my point of view. Yeah, I'm
fairly sensitive to these things. You you're who you are
has not changed this, this kind of crazy East Coast
energy that you bring into the room, which I adore,
it's not changed. But the feeling is a little different.
The yeah, the approach, and people can go back and

(01:27:55):
watch the other episode and and and see for themselves.
I think the energy that you would bring the other time,
it's the same person, same kind energy, same loving energy,
but it's just different. There's a shift that happened within
you that your approach to things is a little bit different.
So I can feel that different approach and that different
energy that's unspoken, right, It truly is. But it's not

(01:28:19):
like you've changed as a human being. You're literally the
same person, yes, but the way the energy is coming through,
the way you're transmitting it is completely different. So like
when I go into a meditation, I'll walk in, I'll
go in and i'll you know, do an hour and
a half maybe two hours of then meditation. I'll walk
out of my office and go into the house and

(01:28:42):
my girls will come to me and they're like, oh,
you just meditated, right, because I'm no different, but.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
They it admits it's just they get it. It's you
can do.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
You can sense it, and that's what I sense with you.
It's not something I can I can't grab onto it, right,
but I can feel it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
Because it's a feeling because it's different. And again that's
why I said, you know, how would I describe a love.
You can't describe a love because it's a feeling. And
that's the difference of And so going forward, not say again,
because now once you have it, I don't think you
cannot have it. Because if I could love my kidnapper

(01:29:25):
and honest to God, not only want to send him up,
but actually love him because I'm now seeing it from
his point of view, I no longer which I didn't
ever do. I didn't have empathy, but I but love
makes you do all those things. I feel sorry for him.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
I'll tell you what I mean. My my first book,
which is Shooting for the Mob, the movie about me
making a twenty million dollar movie for the Mob, that gangster.
You know, that Mafia guy is probably one of the
most dramatic things. I went through A year with this psychopath,
sociopath that was stret life, right, Yeah, year, I'd say,

(01:30:03):
Within the last few years, I've actually like, if I
ever saw him again, I would give him a hug.
I would think, thank you for putting me through what
you put me through, because it made me who I am.
And I wouldn't have gone down the path of opening
up my first podcast trying to help filmmakers because I
had been hurt so badly in the process of trying
to make a film that I wanted to help other filmmakers,

(01:30:25):
which then of course evolved into what we're doing today.
I wouldn't have gone down that path. You know, if
I would have made it big, then we'll be right
back after a word from our sponsor. And now back
to the show. Let's say I would have paid that
twenty million downar movie and all of a sudden and

(01:30:46):
I would have gone down the Hollywood path right and
worked with all the big stars, and I would not
be here. It just wouldn't have happened. So I'm very
grateful for him, and I do. Even still alive. I
still wish him nothing but love because I know he's
in a lot of pain.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
He wis do a lot of pain.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
Yes, he has a very hurt human being.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
Right Because you can go from your pain and now
you see it from his point of view and you
empathize for him and feel love for him. It changes
your life. It changes the way you think about things.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
Would you think it's almost like having a mini life.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Review, I would one percent agree. And I think I've
said that to so Christine, who's with me, who is
my business manager, I said, I think I actually said
those words. Within two days, you know, Austin changed me.
I did a lot of great drinking and eating and
a lot of food, but kind of an epiphany here
and it is, you know, something that I'll never forget

(01:31:43):
in my entire life, because because it was like a
life review, it took like a these little nuggets of
things that have happened here are so transformative that I
feel completely different, you know, I have something even like
on the fight here, Okay, I knew something big was
gonna happen when I was here, I didn't know exactly
what I mean. I thought, oh, I'm gonna do the

(01:32:04):
genre and anything, but I wasn't really even getting it.
Then at one point at the end of the flight,
it was like really really really chopping, like so much
so like even the pilot seemed nervous. Like I even thought,
not a great sign. But you know what I felt.
I actually was reading something and I was so like

(01:32:26):
could care less that I thought, well if if I
die now, like I actually thought like actually could happen.
No problem, didn't even I wasn't like even scare for
a moment, and it actually yeah, because I was just
like and then I thought, wait a minute, it actually
this could happen. You're not afraid. And then I realized, like, okay,

(01:32:47):
get hey, get ready for the next three days in Austin,
because this is just the beginning of the change. And
then somebody that I was with last night said, hey,
did you hear about that crazy flight? My boss? I
was on that same flight. They're like, she goes, that's
scared the holy out of my husband out of my boss.
I go, actually, I was on the same flight. I go,
I wasn't afraid at all. And she goes, what was

(01:33:09):
I go, He's right, he's not exacterate. But but again,
it reminded me of how this big transformation was going
to take place here.

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
It's it's as yeah, where can people find out more
about you and the amazing work you're.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
Doing at a netbrica dot com. Once again, I'm in
the middle of changing my website, so you can also
go to ar Spirits at aol dot com for now
to find me.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
Is that an email?

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
That's an emails?

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
Oh god? Bless you. I can't believe you actually said that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
Yep, I said it because my unlike you, my website
game isn't where it needs to be. And so at
any moment, you know, i'd like to say that I uh,
you know, I'm Kim Kardashian and I crashed the internet.
I don't know if I crashed her.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
I crashed your website.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
That's all website that albody can get on. So that's
why I said it. But you know, I don't care
if I get a zillion emails because I'm flattered. That's great.
I don't want to help people, so you know, yeah, yeah,
and you do.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
And you have on your website you can book sessions
with you and all that stuff. Yes, yes, well I
think you'll be okay, you'll do.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
I agree, And I want to thank you for, you know,
the opportunity coming here and being here in person, and
it's beautiful and it feels great.

Speaker 1 (01:34:29):
And do you have any party messages for the audience.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
I feel ridiculous. Love each other, love yourself, feel love.
You know, love is love is.

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
It's all you need as the beatles, all you need
is the answer.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
I mean again, it seems so hokey, but it's true.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
You're just like you're just talking about Beatles songs.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
At this point, I actually just get the lyrics out
and just like reading I do, I should just be
like okay, hold on, okay, but you know your love
is all you need, like right, because it actually is
the truth. And I didn't know it know it until
now and I do know it and I do think
it will change my life. And again, you know everything

(01:35:10):
I said about the shamin A thing is not again.
I am not looking for any problems, any praise. I
don't want to get anyone in trouble.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
It's the message of love.

Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
And that is all that I'm trying to say. I
am not that is and it's profound yes love.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
Yeah, And it is always a pleasure talking to you.
And thank you so much for coming down here. And
I appreciate the work you're doing to help waken this planet.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
So I appreciate you. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
I want to thank you Nette so much for coming
on the show and sharing her knowledge and wisdom with
all of us. If you want to get links to
anything we spoke about in this episode, head over to
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