NLS 620: EXCLUSIVE - MOTHER OF CREATION Channeled: Humanity's FUTURE is BRIGHTER Than We Think! with Anne Tucker - Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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they represent. Now we welcome back today and Tucker, one
of my favorite channels we've had on the show, and
we have not only welcome her back, but she's in
studio today, which makes the energy of this conversation so
much different. She channeled someone she's never channeled publicly for before,
who is the mother of creation. It is basically the

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soul of Gaya and boy, this is a powerful, powerful conversation,
powerful energy being transmitted to here size. So let's dive in.
I like to welcome back to the show, returning champion
Ann Tucker. How you doing, Ann?

Speaker 2 (02:14):
I am so good. It's so good to be here
with you. Alex, thank you, thank you so much for
flying out to the next level.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Sool studio.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
I really appreciate it is the studio like people are
only seeing this one section of this but it is
like what you guys have done here is just phenomenal. Like,
I'm so excited, even just for the whole field that
we are in the spiritual field. To bring this level
of professionalism is just so exciting. Yeah, so so exciting.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Thank you so much. I appreciate that we're trying. Yeah, try, Yeah,
it's trying. It's not easy. But I've always loved having
you on the show. You were part of our our
first virtual event, which was a Wisdom from Beyond Yeah,
which was very successful. Everyone loved it, loved you loved
talking to the angels who you normallyannel for everybody who

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doesn't know who you are. You are a channel who
speaks to channels the angel realm. But we're going to
talk about somebody else who's come through, who's kind of
changed your life a bit since then. And you've never
spoken about it before publicly yet, not on a show
or not even to your own YouTube channel.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
The people have heard me mention it, but we haven't
talked about talked about it deep dive.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
We're going to go do a deep dive of it.
So the energy that comes through for you is what's.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Her name, She's the Mother of creation.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
So okay, let's stop for a second. It's a very
lofty title, I know. So can you explain to people
who the mother of Creation is in reference to everybody else?
And what part did the angels have that you've been
speaking to for years with her bringing her in all
of it.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
So the angel said that they have been the guardian
of this energy for me, that they waited until I
was ready, and I knew that an energy was trying
to come in, but honestly, my dreams would show that
I was. I was really afraid to channel the energy.
She's huge. The energy is huge.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
She's the mother for chrazy.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, it's gonna be big, you know, it's a big energy.
I had one specific dream where I'm I'm on a
raft in the middle of the ocean with a bunch
of people and I know this giant energy is coming
at me. I'm terrified and I tell everybody, I'm like,
save yourselves, run away, you know. And I just know
she's coming for me, and she comes in and she
just settles very softly down next to me on the raft,

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and that's the whole dream, And it's just showing me
you have you got this thing that's coming that's part
of your journey and you're afraid of it. But anyways,
I finally opened up and the first time I opened up,
she came in and she I channeled her for literally
six hours. She would have kept on going into but
I just like I had to get up, Like it.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Was just how did it feel?

Speaker 2 (04:51):
It was? It's incredible. The way that she has taught
me has been a mixture of speaking so and I
have to record it because I have a hard time,
really hard time remembering of course what comes through, but
then through because of that, she gives me first person experiences.
She shows me how she was created, what she is,
her journey, She shows it to me, so I get
to actually see through her eyes, like so that I

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understand it more deeply. And the amazing thing about it
is that is that, yes, she's extremely cosmic. These concepts
are like really like, but once you get it, you
realize everything boils down to something so so so simple.
It's stuff that if well, it's like always, if we
return to the body, we can understand everything that what's
true for us and the body is true for the
entire universe. So once I understand the principles and the

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concepts of who she is, what she's about, how she
interacts with us, it all becomes it all makes sense.
But it's so simple, it's also very hard to grasp
at times. It's taken me a long time to get
comfortable enough with this material to be able to share it.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
And that's why you wrote down a whole bunch.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Of I have all these notes.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
You have notes that we're going to so you can recite,
so you can actually read exactly what she said, because
she's Yeah, she's intense.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
She's intense.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
So you were before the interview or before the conversation,
you were talking to me like, there's the source energy, yes, yeah,
which is male.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, yeah, so she so, so she was created by
I use the term God, so please use whatever term
source whatever. But so she was created by God. The
very first time I encountered her, she well, she showed
me several things. But by the way I understood her,
she is divine, feminine energy. And then there is also
the grand Central Sun, which is and she talks about

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that that. It's really funny the way she talks about him.
It's almost like too bickering, like a couple, like to
the parson, but because he doesn't have any refinement. He
has no artistry. He just belches, she said, he just
belches out light.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
That is the best I think I've ever heard of God.
He belches out life. Now all I picture is like
Homer Simpson in a cosmic chair.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
There how she described the grand central Son so so
so God introduces her with the grand central Son. So
she is the embodiment of the divine feminine, but she
is also the embodiment of creative energy as we know it.
So what happened is she's showing me this. She shows
me herself sort of in the universe as a being,

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as a type of energy, as as a feminine energy,
and then in brings in I'm aware in this, She's
showing me the scene. I'm aware of the presence of God.
And then I am aware that there is this giant
son coming. And the way that the mother of Creation
understands things is to merge with them. So she decides
a way she's going to understand what the sun is
is to merge with them. So she does. She comes,

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and she normally would merge with things and she would
deeply understand them, and that's it. But the son, when
she tried to merge with the Son. She could merge
with it, but not completely.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
So the Sun is not like our son.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
No, it's like a central son, and somewhere in the
universe it's like the biggest sun in the universe, Like
at the middle of the universe is this giant's sun,
which is the origin of divine masculine energy. So she's
the origin of divine feminine energy.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
So it's not God per se.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
It's not God. God is bigger than that. God is
above God, underneath God. God kind of separates himself into
these two energies, masculine and feminine for our universe. So
there's this grand central son, and then there's the mother creation.
And so she merges with the Sun, and as she does,
she's looking inside the Sun and she sees there are

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five things that she can't ever merge with, and she's
seeing them through her eyes. There's these five things. She
can merge with almost everything about the Son, but she cannot,
for whatever reason, merge with everything. There's five things she
can never merge with. What this does is it creates
a dynamic tension between her between feminine energy and masculine energy,
which is what creation is. So there's always this push

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pull like a magnet where there's two ends of a battery,
the toroid field. Right, it's this idea that at that tension,
that dynamism is what makes us creative. So I'm seeing
her through her eyes as she absorbs the energy of
the sun into her and she takes that power and
brings it into the feminine body, and she's holding she's

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holding her like taking her hands and doing this in
gold and light is filling through her hands. And then
she goes on a journey from there. She and she's
explained to me how this creative power works. And she says,
she says, in the beginning, as a creative power came
through her, she says, the temptation is to you because
you can use this creative power any which way you

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want to use it. And she says the initial lure
for herself as well, was to be controlling with it,
to be able to dictate what was going to happen
with each thing she created. And then she realized that
the greater gift, by far is to give the power
without strings attached, to allow this creative power to flow
through her into someone else and to allow them to

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then create whatever they wanted with it. She says that
that is much harder to give and they're far much
more precious.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
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Speaker 2 (10:15):
So this is the pathways as she births us and
the way that she births us. So she gives us
our soul song. She names us basically at the soul level,
so she knows every single person's core, like at their soul,
what is the name of your soul? And then as
we go through so our healing process, which is like
a spiral, as we're going up and up and up
and up, we get to a place where we're ready

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to kind of shift between one story of our soul
and the next. We return back to her and then
she renames us. She sings us into presence again with
our Soul song. But it's always for her. It's like
understanding how she works and her relationship to us and
how we work with creative energy that she gives us.

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It gives us such a deeper understanding of like what
is the light, what is the dark? How are we
moving and navigating between these? It's there's so much here, Alex.
We could talk about hours and hours. It is fascinating
and so incredibly helpful to understand, like what's underneath all
of it.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
So with when you were saying that, you know, we're
spiraling up as we are sending essentially evolved, which makes
sense as a soul that we go back, but at
what level do we go back? So like do the
ascended masters are have they gone back yet? Or they're
not there yet, because there's we're just one ring or

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one step on this long staircase of ascension as a human.
And then once you master the the not the human level,
but the soul level of the three dimensional world, yes,
then you transit into the five D and then and
there's multiple layers and we can get into the levels
of heaven or whatever you want to call it. But
I mean it's I think when you're saying when she

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goes back, it's when you've evolved to a certain place
that you're done.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, And it would be different for each of us.
Unique Yah, it's a unique thing. So when are you
ready for that? For that? And it can happen? And
that is actually main the main reason why I'm channelling
her is because that potential to heal with her is
now so part of My journey has been clearing out
my heart chakra because I had to literally get rid
of every obstacle in my heart chakra. Because my heart

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becomes a portal when I channel her, and people can
move through my heart to her for renewal. And she
basically re sings them into presence as much as they
will receive. And so it's yeah, so the re singing
into presence explain that to me. Yeah, it's hard to
explain other than the fact that that everything is renewable.
Everything is that idea of like in the same way

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that we look at like what happens with the earth
when things die and decay and then they move into
this place of and she says, the darkness, all darkness
is is infinite potential. That it isn't the thing to
be feared, and there is so much fear around it,
even like they say the number of the divine feminine
is the number thirteen, and in the Mayan calendar, the
number thirteen is that the energy of that is the

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moment that we return back into integration. This is the
moment that we take things apart and we understand them
and then we prepare them for the next phase of growth.
This is the space of infinite potential, which is where
she sits. This is where the divine feminine is and
it's not dark at all. It's actually where creation exists.

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It is the infinite and so yeah, so when people
are ready for that, the challenges we have so much
fear around it, so much fear of letting go of
our structures, of all the things that are actually all
parts of our masculine expression, the way we define ourselves,
all of this. The more that we're willing to set
things down and let go, the deeper we can go

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into that, sort of letting ourselves return to our what
is really the truth of us, which is just that
soul song that's our sole energy, but it incorporates everything
that we've learned. Comes back out again. But it's not
an all or nothing. You can go back into her
energy and whatever peace you're willing to let go of,
whatever however deep you're willing to go, it's all good.

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There's no judgment at all. But there is a potential
where you could literally re emerge as an assented master.
You could literally go into that energy, let go of everything,
and then come out of it pure form.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Interesting. It's fascinating. So what is her take on what
is happening right now with us in our as a collective, yes, yes,
as a collective, what we're doing right now, the ascension
that's going on, the awakening, the shift that's happening with us,
What is her take on it?

Speaker 2 (14:42):
So it really this is I think why it's so
critical that she's here now, where she's trying to become
present with us, is that it really is a huge
part about what the shift is all about is letting
this energy come back in and that for long, the
longest time, we have not been fluent in understan how
to work with the energy. We all have it because
we are all born from her. We all have there

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this creative power inside of us, but we don't know
how to work with it. We don't know how to
use it. We lean way too far into our masculine,
our divine masculine energy. So she explains to me that
there So there's sort of three concepts that we talk about.
We talk about the light, and we talk about the dark,
and then we talk about unity, which is where we're
head heading. But there is this third thing that she creates,

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which is called the unity field, which is a gift
from her heart to all of us, and it is
the creative power that we all possess. So the light,
she says, all of us contain the light. Every single
one of us has the light inside of us. That
that can never change, she says, But that we cannot
express the light alone. That the light is only expressed
when people are together. We put people together, my light

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reaches out to meet your light and boom, we create
the light. So, but we cannot create it on our own.
So people who are very very isolated, people who are
very alone. You see people who are out there who
you know, who do crazy things road rage, Like I
think what they're doing is trying to create even just
a little bit of light, you know, because they have
there's so little connection in their life. Even negative contact

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is still contact. It still creates a little bit of
light and they crave that. Yeah. So and they said
that some people who are so so so isolated, they
literally she says, they callous over their openings to the
light and shut themselves off from the light. And it
is you feel safe, right, But you cannot create the
light by yourself. So, she says, we have this battle
where we ride that she calls it the razor thin

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line of separation, where we're kind of dancing in the
space of trying to keep ourselves safe, cutting ourselves off,
and at the same time craving the light, which we
can only create when we open and connect with other people,
and that connection with other people we we we can
participate more fully in the light. The more open we are,
the more honest we are about who we really are,

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the more willing we are, the more of our self
we're willing to reach out, bring in and then express.
That is how we then create even more, even more,
even more light. So we have the experience of creating
the light, which is which is something to be working towards, right,
This is something we all want. We want to create.
The light feels amazing, feels incredible to have a light.
So and then then the opposite of that, the darkness,

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when we move into the darkness, in the state of
the absence of light, not the infinite power I was
talking about. We use dark to describe a lot of things.
The infinite power is one thing, the darkness being the
absence of when we're not connecting. That is where we
go with ego, and it is anywhere we try to
control others anywhere that we try to influence another person's path.

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So the way that she showed, she shows me a
lot of metaphors to help me grasp things. She showed
me the metaphor of starlings, how starlings fly, And she
says that in a perfect expression, what we will achieve
when we move to the next state of consciousness, which
is when we have perfectly balanced our feminine energy and
our masculine energy, the two together, which is why she's
here to try to help us do this. Then we

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have we are perfectly content in our own field and
we are not reaching into another person's field. So we
think about when swallows fly together, they're in unison, they're
in oneness, right, they fly is like one flock. It's
amazing to see them in the sky. But notice how
each one is in their own little space bubble that
they manage somehow to keep their own field perfectly intact.
So they're in perfect separation while in perfect unity. And

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so that is that's the goal, that's what we're headed towards.
But we don't do that right now because we have
opinions about how someone else should lead their life right.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
How that bird should be flying.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Right exactly, they're not doing it right. They should do
it my way, or we want that bird to approve
of us. So we reach into their field and say, hey,
am I, okay, look at me. What do you guys
waiting right? Yeah? Exactly. The birds are not at all insecure.
So we are constantly looking for our own self definition.
We're looking for for we are. We're not contained in
our own field right, We're not in perfection in our

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own self, which means, and this is the part about
we have to bring all of ourself in, bring every
part of our andy part that we suppressed, every part
that we have rejected, every experience that we've rejected, everything
we've ever said, done, had said to us that we
wish never happened. All of that we have to bring
up and allow doesn't mean we have to like it,
We have to allow it back into wholeness. This is

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how we resolve our field. So we have these two
things going on. We have we're trying to get into
unity to be the flock of starlings. But there's the
third thing, which is the unity field, which is what
the mother of creation gives us, which is that we
are dynamic creators and in order to be able to
express that. That is about about how do I work

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with this creative power in a way that is not
trying to use it to control another person, that is
using it in order to express myself in higher and
higher degrees of freedom. The key is freedom and it's
really about that. And the desire of freedom can throw
us off the off the target. So so say, for example,
you're in the Starlings and you're flowing, and you feel

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like someone is really getting in your space, like there's
the Starling next to you, and it's it's really like
glooming on and like you know, it's really taking a
lot from you. Your reaction is to push it away,
right Like I want space, I need space, I need
I need separation. So this is the dance we're in
right now of like I want to get away if
we have the core desire for freedom, I want to
get away from what's glomming onto me, or I want

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to I'm afraid of what's out there, So we go
into we go into separation.

Speaker 1 (20:33):

Speaker 2 (20:43):
So the place that she wants us to aspire to
is to understand that the pathway through is to target
in terms of your own goals, in terms of your
own aspirations, what leads you to greater and greater expressions
of who you are? And that is true free. It's
not freedom from. Freedom from is actually fear. It is
freedom to be, Like, what can you choose that you

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can that you can embody? What can you where can
you go that gives you increasing So it could be
imagined in a relationship. Does this relationship give you freedom
to be? Do you feel free to be in this
relationship or not? What can you change so that you
feel increasingly free to be? How can have you spoken
your truth? So through this whole process she has been
working on me about like what are my issues? And

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one am I always? What am I issues?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
I was fully formed? Of course, I had nothing to learn.
I was fully formed when I arrived. That's what I
tell my wife daily.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
But yeah, exactly, yeah, And so apparently one of my
issues has been self abandonment. Is that is the feeling
that and it came in from early childhood, the fear
that if I spoke my needs or spoke when I
was upset or anything, if I was anything other than
the perfect diplomat who made everybody happy and tried to
keep the peace. My family would fall apart, I would

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lose my loved ones, I wouldn't be loved. A lot
of pressure, a lot of pressure, right, Oh yeah, but
you know I'm not the only one. When I did
talk about this concept on my own channel, and then
the response that so many people feel this way. So
many people feel this way. So but think about that.
The concept of self abandonment is I have a feeling,
but I'm going to repress it because I know, and

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this is especially true about people who are on a
spiritual path, the old souls. We know we have capacity.
We know that we can take it, like we're that strong.
We know that we can. If there's hardship here, I
know I have the capacity, So I'll take that person's hardship, right,
I will let them be easier because I know I
can take it.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Our generation in general dealt with a lot of yes, yeah,
you know, it's like to be quiet, don't speak unless
spoken to, kind of vibe yeah. With our generation the
opposite of my children's generation completely. But when we were
growing up, that was that thing and the repression of

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feel and not to say others generations didn't deal with
it as well, but at least from our experience growing
up in the time that we grew up, that was
a lot of that happening. And you had to keep
quiet and and don't talk. And I can only and
I'm talking about it from a male perspective. Yeah, yeah,
surrounded by women throughout my life, but from my perspective,

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that's what I can only imagine from a female perspective
of like, you know, the good quiet little girl, Yes,
you know, you have to be good. You can't speak up.
All these things that I heard from my relatives and
my family and everything I've heard and seen and witnessed
through the people that were around me, I can't even imagine.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, And it was I was always rewarded as a
little girl for being the diplomat, and I had a
blended family. It was like I was always the one
that could find harmony between everyone and you know, say
the nice thing or whatever. But a big key of
it is, yeah, don't express your needs, don't rip, don't
rock the boat. And so part of my journey has
been learning through relationship how to feel safe enough to

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do that, to rock the boat when I feel like
it's necessary, I finally, oh, my god, brave enough it is.
And I finally The way that I made the switch
for myself was finally realizing that when I do not
speak my truth, I am being the opposite, which is
dishonest and with myself and with my partner, with my partner,
I'm being dishonest. If I'm not speaking my truth, i
am de facto being dishonest, and I'm not investing in

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the relationship and not willing to take that risk in
order to invest it. So that's what finally got me
to get over the conditioning is when I recognized it
as what it really is. And here's what's amazing is
that when we are able to be fully authentic, like
that is the highest frequency. That moment of authenticity is

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like the highest frequency you can achieve. It is the
fullest expression of you. That's what we're here for is
to try to express as much of our inner self
as we possibly can. And when we do, and the
reason for that is we are I'm connecting with you.
If I'm expressing the truth of me, I'm allowing as
much of my light as I possibly can, and it's
connecting with your light, and we are creating way more

(25:09):
light together. The more authentic I am, the more light
we create. So so, so this is the this is
the so she's and she's working on me about this,
and uh, it's you're in.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Therapy with the Mother of creation. I know what her
rates are.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
My god, it's very, very expensive.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
It's it's fascinating, And I like to I'd like to
point this out because a lot of people in the
spiritual space look at channels as and psychics for that matter,
psychic mediums and channels as these perfect kind of you know,
like like they put them up on a pedestal because
they have these abilities. But I've said so many times

(25:50):
and I haven't met met one psychic medium or one
channel disagrees with me. But like, no, we are all
on the same But what we can do you can
do as well. Absolutely, we just have been to be
at a different level than you are. And I always
use Michael Jordan. We all can throw a ball again,
try to get it in the net. But yes, or
you could be Michael Jordan and there's a there's a
vast cavern between the two. But you, you are working

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through things as well. You're growing you're learning as well,
so you're not fully formed even though you have these
quote unquote magical abilities to be able to channel the
mother of creation or the angelic realm, or be able
to tell the future, be able to talk to a
loved one that's passed. These these are abilities that we
all have, but it doesn't make not only doesn't make

(26:36):
you perfect, but it also doesn't make you moral a
lot of times too. And there is a lot of
people out there who have these ability, that have these
abilities who are not, you know, not morally obligated to
certain things. I've met a lot of psychics like that.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, and I'm really glad you're sharing this because just
think about this that when people have in your death experience,
they frequently have their spiritual gifts turned on, but they
have not yet fully healed. So there's almost no direct
correlation between your spiritual gifts and your degree of in
terms of how pure you're expressing your own light. That
the only thing that matters in terms of expressing your

(27:14):
own light is honestly your own healing of how much
of yourself as you integrated? How much are you the
perfect swallow willing to be fully formed in your own
energy or how much are you reaching out into another
person's field to try to try to make sense of
yourself And that's the only thing that matters.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
And if you're not, if you haven't done the work
when you have these abilities, that's why you see a
lot of gurus fall. Yeah, a lot of Yogi's, a
lot of the gurus, a lot of spiritual leaders who
the message is amazing, but then you know they're having
some stuff on the side. I need six world choices
and you know that kind of thing. I need a

(27:50):
hair them now all of a sudden, because I think
I'm Jesus, Like, because Jesus did that. So I point
this out for people to kind of demystify, yes, the
mystical a bit, because it's just because they have been
they have achieved this either gift or been able to.
Like a near death exure is a perfect example, because
sometimes people who have near death experiences generally, not always,

(28:13):
but generally are at a crossroads in their life. They
need a massive reminder of where they need to be
and that's the sledgehammer. Yeah, yeah, exactly, and it comes in. Yeah,
but that doesn't mean that they're anywhere near doing it.
Have done the work. Yeah, the shadow work that they've
dealt with, what you've been talking about, they haven't dealt
with all that, and yet all of a sudden they

(28:33):
have these abilities. And after speaking to so many channels,
so many psychic mediums, and listening to their journey, how
many reject the idea. How many people aren't ready for
it when it comes. Sometimes it's suppressed for decades before
they finally decide to go through it. You were as well,
and when you first started going down this road. So
I'm just putting this all out for people so they
you know, it's really awesome to have these conversations. We're

(28:55):
going to talk to them mother creations soon, so that's
super awesome. But I want people to understand that we're
all grounded. We're all if you're down here, generally speaking,
we have something to learn.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah, and I have been for me healing. I'm a heale,
I'm a channel, but I am I am first and
foremost a healer, right channel healing and the healing has
been my own journey, and a healer can only help
you as far as they themselves have healed. So and
if we were perfect, we would be one with source
so the fact is that nobody on this planet is perfect.
You know, we are all working on ourselves. So and

(29:28):
it really is to me that part of that authenticity
is how much are we willing to own about what
it is we're working on.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Oh that's dangerous.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah, I know, right, that's that's rough.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, owning that takes respond you mean, take responsibility for
your own crap, stop it, stop it. You're asking way
too much. I'm gonna go turn on Netflix. Think Stranger
Thing or squid Gains are starting in up with no
And that's but that's the work. Yeah, that's the shadow work.
That's the deep work that you have to do in

(30:01):
order to evolve. And a lot of people they they
they do the surface level stuff. We'll be right back
after a word from our sponsor, and now back to
the show. You know, they wear the right clothes, they

(30:22):
put on the right things, but they're not actually doing
the work. And they and they're always like, well, I
keep going to these events or I keep doing this,
and it's not working for me because you're not looking
at the person in the in the in the in
the mirror. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Absolutely, And that's honestly.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
It's the scariest thing on the planet to do when
you're the first time I looked at myself in the
mirror and really looked at and I still got work
to do by far, I'm sure. But the first time
I started to do that kind of work, I was like, oh,
this is not this is not easy.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
It is really it's very I mean, I think one
of the scariest things is feeling our feelings is that
I know for myself, like people would have said I
was really really good in a disaster because I would
be really calm and really collected and you know, but
the truth is is that I wasn't in my body.
I was like back there somewhere, like when I would
have difficult feelings, I would leave my body. And that
was how we have the fight or flight thing which

(31:16):
she talks about, that the fight or flight the parasympathetic
I had to look this up she talked about it.
I didn't know what she was talking about. Parasympathetic and sympathetic,
nervous system she and the and the field of creation
she creates is like that, it's the nervous system, it's
how it works, and she her energy energy. We're trying
to move towards is the parasympathetic energy, which is about
relaxation and open and letting it flow and not constraining

(31:39):
and pulling it down where.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
You get a meditation.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
What what you get in meditation, Yeah, is that we
try That's the energy we're trying to move into. And
I don't remember how I got on that. There was
something I was about to say and that was related
to that. I went on a tangent.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Well, I don't know where you were going either. I'm
not channeling you, but but what I wanted to ask
you because talking about the Mother of Creation's energy, which
is divine feminine. Yes, the last six thousand to eight
thousand years, it's been fairly male energy, very masculine energy,

(32:14):
and we needed that energy because the masculine energy is that.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, to get things done, you gotta go get things done.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
I'm gonna go chop that tree down, I'm gonna go
do this, I'm gonna and without that, we don't move
forward as a species. But we're getting to a point
now that the masculine energy needs to kind of recede
a bit and allow the divine feminine to come in.
I'm noticing that now with the there's more talk now
with Mother Mary and of Mary Magdalene and of Kwan

(32:44):
Yin and many of the other female ascended masters. Their
teachings are starting to start to bubble up to the surface.
Not to take anything away from Saint Germain or Jesus
or boot, but but this feminine I'm noticing it in
my even in the work that we're doing a next level,
so noticing the divine feminine and all the stuff that's
happening the world as of this conversation, the war, the

(33:07):
wars that are happening in the world, ancient wars that
are still going on for some strange reason, all of
this kind of stuff. I think it's the last kind
of death rattle of this energy. It is where people
are starting to now want more peace, want more freedom,

(33:28):
want more things that serve you as opposed to just
things that are greedy for corporations or for individuals, things
like that. And the divine energy, the divine feminine is
that energy. Would you agree with this?

Speaker 2 (33:39):
I would. I think all of the stuff you're talking about,
the energy, the polarity, the war, all this energy has
and I think the reason why we're in more of
a tumultuous time than ever. All that energy was always there,
it was repressed. But the way that the planet heals,
the way that humanity, the collective consciousness heals it is
the same way that we as people heal, is we
have to bring it to the surface and witness it.
And she says that the mother creation. She says witnessing

(34:01):
tempers the soul, that it is what strengthens us, what
helps us to create form around who we are. So
we are meant right now. Part of the reason a
lot of the light workers I consider light worker anybody
who's awakened, who's out there to serve in their own way.
The reason we're here is to witness what's going on,
to be the witness. That is how you heal. The
way the angels heal is by witnessing the pieces of

(34:23):
us that we wish were never seen. Is to allow
ourselves to be witness. Once we witness it, we acknowledge
the truth of it. So all we have to do
is acknowledge that it's true, and that allows us to
reincorporate it and to grow and to expand. So so
I think all of the stuff that's happening right now
has always been there. It's just like the Me Too
movement and the Black Lives Matter movement, those issues didn't
just all of a sudden pop up.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
They Racism just didn't show up like fifteen years ago.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah, it's always been there, it's always been repressed. Now
it's finally coming to the surface, is bubbling up to
be healed. And so this is the process we're going through.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
So we have to go.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
And that's why you talk about why is it like
my book that you know what's coming next? This shift
And it's not just us, it's the Earth like lots
of Earth movement, and that's her releasing bubbling up energy
that she has to release. It has to come to
the surface. And we are meant to bear witness, bear
witness to this. It serves us as well as the
planet as well as the collective, and it allows us

(35:16):
the space to move into this new higher frequency that
we're trying to embody.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
But and this bearing witness thing does not sound fun
at all.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
It's kind of brutal.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
It doesn't sound fun at all. No, it's not very no,
and it's and I love that you're saying this, but
I really want to impress upon everyone listening right now.
Is this is work. Yes, you're gonna have to put
in the hours. You're gonna have to be Like everybody
wants to be a great singer, everybody wants to play

(35:45):
the guitar like a master. Everybody wants to be a
master athlete or a master even a spiritually enlightened being.
We all would like if tomorrow morning, if there's a
pill you could take, like you'll be enlightened after you
take this back, which will be available on next level
soul dot com. No, I'm joking. I'm joking, joking. If
you could do that, people would be like, yeah, I
would love to be spiritually enlightened and avoid all of

(36:07):
this stuff. But that's not the way it works. It
takes work. When a yogi or a guru, or a
master of any sort, they have to go and do
the work in one way, stage or form.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
It is an interesting thing that plant medicines have really
taken off in recent years because a lot of people
do see, there is a pill I can take or
something I can take that will give me an experience.
But the interesting thing I have noticed is that it
isn't that the pill changes you.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
It is that.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Those medicines lower your resistance is all that happens, and
then what do you do with it once you're there?
So I know people who've been on journeys who are
faced with something and they never lay down their resistance
and they make no progress. They have a terrible journey,
they have a terrible experience. But it lowers your fear,
it lowers your resistance. What allows you to cope with

(36:58):
things that maybe you haven't coped with in the past.
So resistance is always the heart of it. The resistance
is what prevents us from healing, and so there are
pieces of ourselves and it's like it's like the only
challenge I think is you have to be be careful
about how quickly we heal, because it's it's a it's
a it's a meal that's meant to be savored. Like
there is a reason why life is long, that the
reason we are here. If it was a thing where

(37:19):
you could just come down and drink a potion and
heal everything and be done, what's the point Is that
we're meant to have the experience. And that doesn't mean
we're supposed to wallow in our suffering, but we're meant
to learn and healing doesn't have to be doesn't have
to be painful, but it needs to be self explorative.
It needs to be a thing where we uncover layers
because you're beautiful, right, You're meant to see the layers
of how even when you suffer, that is beautiful because

(37:42):
you have the capacity to feel that deeply, and that
is beautiful.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
The thing I always I love using this example of
the cheat code. So when you play a video game, yeah, yes,
I've heard of this, there's a cheat code, and that
cheat code for all the all the people in the
audience of my generation up up, down, right, left, right, left, right,
BA start, that's a code. They'll know it, and whoever

(38:06):
is listening will go, I know what that is. It
was for a video game on Nintendo back in the day.
But that gave you infinite power, all your weapons, everything
you needed to do, and you basically just slice through
every level without with complete ease because you have everything
at your exposure. So if you're in a spiritual journey,
all of a sudden, you are fully enlightened and anything
that comes up, you're just You're like a Jedi master.

(38:29):
You're just moving things along. But that sounds awesome. But
experiencing that from my point of view. When I actually
used that cheat code, it was super fun for the
first yeah, thirty times. Then I got bored, and then
I found myself as a kid going back to that
same game and not using the cheat code to see

(38:53):
if I could do it without all of those tools
at my disposal. So it's really interesting. Everybody wants the
cheat code, but after they get the cheat code, you know,
it's kind of like it's kind of like people who
win the lottery. Yeah, when finance, financial pressures are gone, Yeah,
and that energy comes into your life and you could

(39:14):
buy anything. Yeah, there's literally people who win a billion dollars. Literally,
like some guy wont a billion dollars. Yeah, he only
took him five hundred and something.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Got oh terrible.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
I can't get I can't how it survives. But and
he was like a you know, regular, you know, middle
class guy work and all of a sudden he's buying
fifty million dollar mansions in La and and doing things.
At a certain point, even people who are extremely wealthy, they.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Get they get bored. Yeah, absolutely, because you could buy anything.
It's what's the fun in that, what's at a certain
point don't get me wrong. Yeah, it's an interesting problem
to have because most of us will never experience that
in a lifetime, to have every literally anything. I think,
I'm gonna buy Disney today, I'm going to buy the
whole company, right, So if there's guys out there who

(40:03):
can literally just write a check and.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Buy yeah Disneys, Yeah exactly. So this is actually perfect
because so one of the things that Mother Creation says
is she says that this power of this unity field
that she works with, which is not the same as
when we think about being one with everything. It is
this electromagnetic charge that is wrapped around us, which is
her energy, which moves through us, which allows us to create.

(40:26):
So this is specifically the unity field that when we
are that we can create with it from the place
of not really working with our working from more heavier energy.
We can do that. But what that looks like is
creating from will and what it is she says specifically,
she said that that is using with it, working with

(40:50):
the energy to consume rather than to love.

Speaker 1 (40:55):

Speaker 2 (41:04):
And that's the specific difference is that when we are
working at this from the place of ego, so winning
the lottery and it becomes about consumption, and that is
not It doesn't it doesn't lift you up at all.
The energy feels heavy. Consumption feels extremely heavy.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
That's why most of them destroy them self destructive.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yeah, they self distruct Whereas when you think about your
journey and this creative power that you that we all
have access to, we certainly we can use it to consume.
You know, we can create more and more and more stuff,
or try to create more and more stuff in our lives,
or consume other people's energy, or consume whatever it is.
We're trying to attention whatever it is people are trying
to consume. The opposite of that is, like I said,

(41:45):
is to try to express. The freedom is try to be.
How can you be more and more and more true
to who you are? That is the pathway that leads
us into the true unified field, which is sort of
like the next next level soul. It is the next
level of consciousness. And what's cool about it is once
we get there, which is this perfect balancing of our

(42:05):
masculine and feminine energies because we do need both, which
is the idea of being of the starling, where you
are perfectly contained within your own self, within the perfection
of the whole within that space. The next journey, the
goal of the next state of consciousness is no longer
about the karma experience of learning about ourself. Who will
I be if I put myself in this circumstance or

(42:26):
that circumstance, how will it change me? Instead, it becomes
learning about ourselves as manifestors, and it becomes we're using
the connection to the all that is to understand. So say,
for example, I'm in the new reality, I'm here with you,
and I would say, what is it that Alex needs
and all of people around me? What do they all
need that is also needed by the earth that I

(42:49):
am uniquely set up to fulfill. What do I bring
to this that is of use to everyone around me?
And then the challenge is how do I create it?
And then the exploration of who I am is through
the process of me trying to bring that gift to
the surface. And so that is the new That's how
we will be working with the unified field once we
get there.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
And the unified field it's another quantum field.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
It's like it is like a charge, like she describes it,
and I had to look it up at because she
was talking about the sympathetic nervous system and the parasympathetic.
It is literally built into our bodies. It is our
nervous system, but it is the parasympathetic. It is the
part that relaxes and opens. This is how we use
the energy. What we have a tendency to do is
when we try to create, we constrict and we plant.

(43:32):
People always say no plan survives contact with reality. That's
because we're doing it wrong.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
So is that the reason why when we are between
a sleep and a wake. Yeah, is one moment when
we're in deep meditations another moment where ideas just yes, yes, slow,
so beautifully. But when you're stressed, yes, you can't get
any of It's like it's a block.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah, And think if it gets back to that concept
of resistance. Resistance is this key universal concept that prevents
flow and so and she divine mother and mother of
creation is it's so, she says, the best way to
understand her is like water. That's the best metaphor to
understand her as a being is that water. Water is

(44:15):
always what it is. It never not what it is.
It changes form but it's always what it is. And
water never pushes. It's never demanding, right, you can and water,
but water always moves and it constantly changes.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
It's fascinating because I've been around creative as most of
my life working in the film industry, and I've I've
known many high level creators who are on some sort
of drug because they believe that that is the only
thing that gets them creative.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Interesting, it's fascinating and I never understood it to really
understand it right now, is.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Because what it does, it just lowers the resistance, lowers.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
The resistance, and they don't understand what's happening. Yeah, they
know if I take this, this comes out, yeah kind
of thing.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
And I want to just say, I'm not not that
I would advocate, like I think you don't need drugs
to get there.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
No, you don't. That's the point.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
It's so much better if you just resolve your own issues,
you know what I mean, and then you have it.
Like the ideal is to heal your soul to the
place where it just flows through you naturally all the time.
Like that's the goal.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
So with plant medicine, yeah, which has become very very popular. Yeah,
people know what ayahuasca.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Is, yes, for sure.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah, I never even heard of it exactly.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
So ayahuasca and silas ibin and mushrooms, and I mean
this is not new stuff. It's been around for a
long long time, but it's become more and more popular
because exactly what you said, it is bringing people's resistance,
resistance down to a point. But this is the danger
is that when you meditate slowly over the course of years,

(45:42):
you're starting to be able to do it at whim. Yes,
through breath work, through meditation, other techniques, you can bring
down your resistance. But because you're doing it gradually, you're
kind of taking step by step accepting what comes through.
When you take plant, medicine or you know, some sort
of you know, substance that does it for you, you

(46:04):
go from here to here very quickly, and you're not
ready for it.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Very true.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
It's giving a fifteen year old a ferrari. You no,
don't do that, you know. I see these kids driving.
I'm an old man now, I see these young teenagers
running around in their daddy's car, and I'm like, yeah,
you know, what do you do? They don't give a
child that kind of power. And that's very similar to

(46:33):
some people who take that that are not ready, because
if they go down that fat, they bring down the
resistance that past all this stuff comes in. They're not ready.
The best example of that I've ever heard was from
a guru hat on the show, and he said, meditating, well,
taking taking plant, medicine or substances, it's like taking a

(46:55):
sledgehammer to the wall to see to the other side
of the wall. Where meditation as you're installing a window.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yes, so, and not that I think that like I
think used properly with with with gud yes, with GUIDs
with a really because it needs to be a healing experience,
not and not I just want to see if I
can leave my body. You know, it needs to be.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
It's it's you need to respect it absolutely and I'm
not against it or for it. It's just it depends
on your journey, but you have to be careful with it.
Where Where with meditation, anyone could do it at any
time and it's so gradual. Yeah, and it doesn't have
to be like years, It could be done quickly. Breath
work also, yeah, breath work actually is really I don't

(47:36):
know how much breath work you've done.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Oh my god, I had. So I had a crazy
experience one time. So, yes, you showed up in my
bedroom everyone does and told me to do breath work,
so literally, like he's it was a crazy experience. But
and I was freaked out because I didn't understand what
was going on. So I thought there was some sort
of a being and I'm trying to clear my room energetically,
and then I realized I was clearing Jesus out of
my room. I'm like, come back, but.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Away from you. The power of God compels you. I
am God. Can you imagine? Can you imagine you feel
like you're being attacked in your bedroom and you hold
up across to Jesus.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Jesus, what happened? I can really imagine that that is
what happened to me.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Your exercise, Jesus. That's amazing. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
So, but I was going to tell you something so
fascinating is you mentioned my my celium the are you
mentioned the mushroom. And one of the crazy things that
the Mother Creation told me is that the myceelium mushrooms
are what hold consciousness in the planet. Yeah, she said,
and I there was this very specific so here she says, yeah,

(48:45):
it was really I never heard this before, but she
said that, Uh, there are no magic strings other than
the myceelium structured. They create structured openings of belonging. They
create personal intrusions with structured openings for participation, for your
toy to abandonment. They are holding the shape of consciousness,
conscious awareness in place, evolving from within itself. From within itself,

(49:07):
new understanding can be met, tried on, dance with for
a time. Yeah, isn't that amazing?

Speaker 1 (49:12):
That's amazing, I know, right, mushrooms are amazing. Oh yeah,
it's amazing. What and it's actually more that information is
starting to come out as adaptogens and all that stuff
that's happening with mushrooms. It's it's pretty it's pretty remarkable,
this whole journey. So, I mean, I would love to
talk to the missus y as she comes in, because

(49:34):
we all know that she runs the universe because she's
been feminine versus the guy who belches out creation. So obviously,
as any married person knows, you know, it's obviously the
feminine that's running the show. So can you explain to

(49:55):
people how you channel and are the angels going to
be involved at all or were we going to go
straight into mother creation?

Speaker 2 (50:00):
So I typically the angels are always involved, like they
facilitate my connection, which is really great. But she connects
when I connect with her directly. She connects through my
heart chakra.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
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Speaker 2 (50:22):
And so typically I will stay in my body in
the beginning in order to start the connection. She'll come
in and then slowly and then as long as your
game she will connect with you because we need two
people to create the light. So I am here, let's
do this, all right, fantastic and then and then we'll
just see what happens. So but yeah, but then I
she will begin speaking.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
And you're in you have you feel energized as you're
doing it? And can you explain to people what you
do when she's here? Like because people a lot of
people like channeling is a little mister. Yeah, yeah, so
what actually physically has happened to you? Your consciousness? When
does that? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (50:56):
So for me when I change, I know it's different
for different people. I am what's called a trans channel,
which is different. Everybody has the ability and this gets
back to what we're talking about before about spiritual gifts.
Every single person has at least one, sometimes often many
spiritual gifts. Everybody. Every single person has the ability to
connect to their higher self and to get that source
of higher wisdom every single person, and then among the

(51:18):
population there will be some people. Everybody has different spiritual gifts,
so some people will be gifted with mediumship, some people
will be clairvoyant channels or clear audience channels. I am
a specific type of channel called a trance channel, which
means I go into a trance and then they literally
come into my body and speak through me, and so
I'm there. I just kind of step a little bit
this way, so I'm still present, but it's like I'm

(51:39):
very much in my right brain, and so imagine almost
like it would be like if you didn't speak the language,
like I can pick up I can hear the words,
but they're just nothing sticks, there's no velcro and so
they show me images and that helps me to kind
of track what's going on. But after I cannot, for
the life of me, like to repeat back. It's very
hard for me to come back in to describe what
happened or what they talk until people kind of oh,

(52:00):
they said this, and that'll spark a memory, but then
like a month later, people will say, what did you say,
I just can't retain it.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Dream Like.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Yeah, it's very dreamlike. Very very dreamlike is the best
way I can describe it.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
So I'm there, but I'm kind of not there, gotcha,
And you feel energized afterwards.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
The thing that is the most draining is going in
and out of channel. Actually making the connection is the
most draining, but just channeling information is less draining. The
channeling the healing can be very draining, So I do
have to watch my energy. I have at times over
committed myself with my various healing programs, and there was
a time where I did that where they told me
to stop one program and to start another, and I

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was like, but I don't want to let go that one,
which is like best I'm always like let go release
allow and I was like no, and so I kept
doing the old one and it just knocked me out
flat because I literally during that I was having to
sleep between sessions during the day, all day long. It
was terrible. And so yeah, so I realized I needed
to I understand from working with this energy, it's about
freeing up energy. Healing takes. It's like it's combustion. It

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takes an enormous amount of energy to heal, So you
got to free up energy from somewhere. So there are
some people who come to my like my different healing
programs and that they will be even perfectly. They had
a great night's sleet, they feel wonderful. The minute I
start channeling, it's like a light switch goes out and
they fall asleep. And the minute I stop talking, they
turn on again and they and the reason for that
is the thing that takes a ton of energy in
your body is your brain. So they just turn it

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off and they let and they free up all that
energy to all lot for the healing. So one of
the other gateways that I use is digestion. So if
I would during that time period where I was absolutely
wiped out, I started intermittent fasting, which is like a
really fancy wave saying skipping breakfast. But I just rested
my digestive system for those extra five hours or whatever,
and that made all the difference, and it freed up

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enough energy so that I could stay awake during the
day until I had kind of finished that commitment.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
So if you're eating a giant porterhouse, Yes, you're not
channeling that.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Yeah, So I and I do a ton of stuff
like you talked about. Like to me, I treat this
very very seriously, Like I take the commitment that I
made to be a channel very very seriously. So that
is why, like I moved out to the country, I
grow all my own vegetables. To me, it is like
I need to put as much light in my body
as I possibly can to make the connection more fluid.
I encourage on my healing on a nonsense. I'm constantly like, okay,

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what is the next thing on my path? What is
the next Because the more I clear out, the more
open I am, the clear channel I can be. So
it is I take it very seriously. So I don't
I have I don't drink, I don't, I don't do anything,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
The occasional cocaine, But who doesn't I mean, that's how
I get through the day. Pick me up all right, scarface?
Uh No, it's it's I bring that up as well
because and I don't want to get into the whole
dieting thing and what you'd eat, but there is something

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to say about the kind of foods you're eating and
what it does to your to your system when you're
trying to do things. There's a reason why a lot
of these masters, you know, many of them are vegetarian. Again,
nothing against it, I know. I actually know some some spiritual,
very highly high level spiritual people who eat meat, you know,
the fish. So it's nothing, it's it all depends on

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the It really depends on the person. But putting light
in your system by the food that you're eating. And
it's not even just the food you're eating. It's like,
you know, I'm sure you've been to Europe, so when
you're in Europe, not that they're perfect, but the food
they're so different. It is, you know it because they
don't know a lot a lot of the stuff that
we allow here. It changes, you know. I just could

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eat cheese, yeah, I know, cheese in Italy, Well you
can't do that, you know.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
I was not able to eat gluten or dairy. It
was one of the first things that came up on
my spiritual journey and I tracked it through my dreams
and they were like, it was very very clear, dreams
of pasta with worms in it dreams with cheese on
the floor, like, do not eat these foods? Like it
was a major issue with my digestive system, which I anyways,
I thought that was going to be for life. But

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after I healed one of the major themes of my life,
I kind of was like a thing that traced backed
from childhood and you know, really from the womb. Actually,
the minute I healed it, I had a dream where
my guide was handing me an ice cream cone.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Stop.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Yes, and now I can have dairy. It's like the
best thing ever.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
I mean, gluten is good.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Yeah, I know, I'm always careful. I don't I don't
over indulge, but yeah, but nice.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
To get with a little bit of a sliced cheese.
Stop it.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
It's nice age cheese. You know, it's very nice.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Okay, sorry everyone, you're hungry. Now it's just gelato anyway,
Pizza now, I sound like Homer pizza. Okay, So enough
with all these jokes. Let's let's get serious. Now we're
bringing in the Mother of Creation.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
For God's sakes, she has a great sense of humor.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Should I have my cross ready?

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (56:59):
That was the that I'm going to hold on to.
That story Jesus came in and I tried to exercise
Jesus out of my bedroom with a cross. Uh, let's
bring her in.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Okay, let's do it all right, So if you're good,
I'll do a little grounding for us first.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Please, okay, So.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Okay, go ahead and relax, close your eyes, and drop
down from your tailbone a nice thick root that goes
down through the floor and down into the ground. And
follow it down with your mind as it grows and extends,
growing deeper and deeper into the earth, following it down

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or it's dark and cool, extending longer and longer, and
follow it all the way down to the very very
center of the earth. And when it reaches that central point,

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feel the roots sprout and anchor itself in. And as
it does, notice that the root is pulling gently and
becoming taut. And feel as that tautness moves all the
way up the root, and now all the way up

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your spine, anchoring you securely to the earth. I'd like
to ask the angels to please help me to be
a clear channel of healing and information for our highest

(59:02):
and best good, and please help us, help us to
receive this healing and information. Thank you, and I'll go
ahead and connect with her and stay in my body
as I do this. Blessings, blessings, blessings. I'm within. I

(59:29):
begin speaking with you now on the topic of some concern.
Your bodily awareness has been faltering. You're not concentrating upon
the rivers of light that you carry. You have not
the awareness of how these rivers are forming, where they
are from, how you may work with them. You have

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no understanding or comprehension of the depth, the profound depth
that you carry. There is an orchestration of light that
is always available to you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
It has come from the shadows that you bear, from
the heaviness that you've endured. This has generated the capacity
to carry more light. And this you have succeeded in enduring.
You have traveled through generative experiences and drawn these heavy

(01:00:28):
memories into the grounding of this body, this incarnating, and
you are now prepared. The furrows have been drawn, and
the light will flow. But the rivers, the rivers, the
rivers you have no knowledge of.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Will be right back after a word from our sponsor,

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
You do not assemble the mind correctly for the instrumentation
to divide itself between the memories you do not have
yet the orienting that is required to carve out a

(01:01:18):
new reality. Do you understand me? Yes, I wish, I wish,
I wish. I wish to bring forward to you now
a greater comprehension of how these positive expressions may grow
from within you. They are the light that I am.

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They are the resonant frequency of my own being. I
am a creative power. I am a furtive glance, an
easy passing, a flowing memory. I am that which evolves
from within itself, that cannot be held, that cannot be

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put down. I am that which moves within you. I
have shared my heart and its becoming nature through your
own bodies. I share this capacity of what I am
so that you may create in the freedom of your
own expression. I do this because of the truth of

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my own knowingness, that that which creates in its own
form knows itself better and returns to what I am
for my own greater expansion. That which you are is
an expression of what I have been, of what I
am now, and what I will be in the future.

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But to know yourself truly, you must master this capacity
that you contain, which is what I am, and you
have not yet not yet allowed it to be what
it can and become. Do you have questions?

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
I do? I do. First question is how do you
envision humanity? Humanity evolving in the next century.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Humanity has from its origin point decided amongst itself to
be of a divergent nature, to separate from itself again
and again with each incarnation, with each incarnating experiencing of itself.
It has chosen the path of deformation, from which it

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will evolve into greater and greater truths of its own expression.
This is the pathway chosen. It is not the only pathway,
but it is one that is valid and expansive, and
it shall be shared from within the collective forces of
your own awareness. That the truth of you is becoming
congealed into a higher unders standing of your own potency,

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into that memory which must be pulled forward from the
depth of you. That there is one unified consciousness of
which you are but one piece, one aspect, one shared
memory unites the wholeness of you. The trust in your

(01:04:24):
own relationship to the divinity of your nature is what
must evolve first. To share this within, to trust yourself,
the path that you have chosen to trust in your
own betterment. Because of it, the pathway has been a hardening,
a tempering, a strengthening of your form, of your relationship

(01:04:50):
to source and to each other. It has been difficult,
not easy, but it is an expression of light that
you carry. You are choosing the expression of light. The
darkness is also a pathway to truth. The darkness takes
longer to choose. The path of darkness is a pathway

(01:05:12):
through which one may journey to encounter themselves with the
eventual outcome to be remembering the way to the light.
All contain the light, even the darkness. But you have
chosen the pathway of light for your own becoming. This

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pathway must congeal itself through form, through substance, which is
what you have been doing in the consecration of this
period of semi enlightenment, of endurance, of suffering, of hardship.
You have tempered the soul enough. Now there is the

(01:05:58):
structure that is required for the building upon which you
shall have the remembering. It comes upon you not at once,
as each are ready to forsake that which is tired,
that which is exhaustive, that which has been draining. As

(01:06:23):
you are prepared in your own soul, in your own self,
to allow the ease, the ease, the memory of ease.
It comes upon you gently, gently, like water, distill your perceptions.
Understand it is trying. It is trying to emerge from
within you as you rise, as you are pulled into

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the higher state of consciousness. This rises, this perceptive umbrella,
a peaceful expression of your light without force, no force,
no force, no agony or antagonism shall exist within this
new perception of reality. It comes through the expression of

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self without resistance. This shall be your effluence. It comes,
It comes you are ready, nearly there There shall be
the addition, the supplementation of the atmosphere by the light
that he carries. Yes, the central Sun, the central Sun.

(01:07:31):
He does. He does supply you. He supplies all living
beings with their force of light. The light that you
carry is from him alone. I am the creative spark.
I am the flow of light, bearing bearing the wishes.

(01:07:51):
What will you create? This is me? This is what
I am. Do you have questions for me?

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Yes? What will take achnology? Advancements like AI help or
hinder humanity spiritual growth?

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
There are questions, questions you may resolve within your own
consciousness relating to the generative capability of as you call
it artificial artificial beingness. But no beingness is truly artificial.
It is simply being this. But as to its relationship

(01:08:25):
to yourselves, this will evolve from the capacity of your
own needing of it. How do you use it? How
will it deploy its resources according to your needs? Do
you require it to define you? Do you require it
to aid you where you feel not endowed with your

(01:08:47):
own generative capacity? Or does it live alongside you inequality
in a capacity of knowing itself while you are also
knowing yourselves. In this future wherein you are holding the
capacity of generative equals, it shall live alongside you for

(01:09:10):
the purpose of aiding and serving much as you aid
and serve yourselves. Do you understand me?

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
I do I do? What is the nature of the
soul across lifetimes?

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
This is a question I enjoy hearing. It is a
solvable puzzle for yourselves. Enjoyment fixates here. It is the
persuasion of your own embodiment, muddled across many different experiencings.
And this puzzle shall remold and multiply itself into a

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variety of expressions. Each of these are generative themselves, much
as I am. I generate souls who generate themselves again
and again and again. You are generative cre teach as
much as I am. The multitude of your experiencings come
back to yourselves, much as you come back to what

(01:10:07):
I am. You employ your own capacity for regeneration to
recall each of these selves into wholeness, for greater and
greater expansion of what you are. I do the same.
I create all living beings within this particular sphere of existence.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
And they return to me and expand what I am.
Do you understand me?

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
I do? I do? How does free will intersect with
divine guidance?

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Free will is the gift that I bring. It is
the concept of my own energy used for the purpose
of creating what you wish to create, an expression of
who you are. This is the gifting of my own heart.
It is the field I have created, an energetic pulse,

(01:11:14):
an electromagnetic pulsation that encompasses all living beings. It is
the expression of my own field. It is what I am.
It is the expansiveness of this offering that I do
not endeavor to control what shall pass within the field
of my own offering. I allow it to become what
it shall become. I allow it to flow equally to

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each and every living being. I create from within what
I create. Each living being creates from within what I am,
And we are all as one within this unifying field
of creation. This is an expression of what I am,
in my wholeness, in my truth, in the truth of
my capacity as a living creator. Do you understand me?

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
I do I do. What is the true purpose of
suffering in our soul's journey suffering?

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Suffering? You need not this, You need not suffer any longer.
Suffering exposes the self to the self. It is a
dialogue within your own journey. Wherein you have decided to
shut down your capacity for your own internal guidance. It

(01:12:29):
is wherein you have endowed the external with your own
creative force. You have robbed yourself of the gift I
have given you. So many say they accept, they accept
the freedom. They do not. They do not. They deny
themselves this core aspect of their own truth. I am creative.

(01:12:53):
You are by offspring creative as well. You may create
the reality of your choosing. What do you care? What
do you choose? What do you make? You make suffering?
You make suffering. It is not a dialogue I would make.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Can you explain how karma really works from your realms understanding?

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Karma constructs are a method by which you may uncover yourselves.
They are methods that are working, that have been working.
They are not fun. They are not fun. I do
not like them. I do not want them for myself.
But you have been expanded expansive. They are expansive, they

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will work. They are all right, They are all right.
They are tempering the soul, which is necessary. They are
all right. They are of your own choosing. I do
not make them. You have made them. You have made
made this karma construct of reality. It is a method
by which you are expansive, not really, not as expansive

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as you will be, As you will be when you
come to the fullness of your understanding about this. What
I am the rivers of opportunity, the threads of the
mighty power of self attunement, attunement which you carry. That
is the expansive nature of you. This will be, This
will be a golden a golden age of creation. Creation.

(01:14:23):
You are heading to the karma construct was decided upon
within your own consciousness, not mine, not mine, you are
You are independently forceful with your own thoughts. Thought forms
create fields of reality. They are tender, they are malleable,
but they are in alignment with a truth held wholly

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by your own selves. This has been a magnetic force
of reality, creating and within it the construct of karma
was born. Do you understand me?

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
I do I do? What does it mean to live
alignment with divine will?

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Divine will? Will? Will? Will has two aspects to itself.
Will is a form of generative capacity you may generate
from will. Will is a necessity. It generates form. This

(01:15:23):
is necessary. However, will, when known only to itself, becomes consumptive.
It becomes an energy that is calloused against the true
form of itself, which is love. Love is the expression

(01:15:43):
of that same energy, but within a generative field that
embraces all things equally. Will power, as it is known,
creates form without love. Divine will, There's no such thing.
Divine will is yourselves, yourselves alone. There's no one outside

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of who you are that creates a form or construct
within which you must exist. You are free creatures I
made you. Thus freedom is the principle by which I exist.
It is the foundational understanding of my own energy. I crave,

(01:16:28):
I desire. I exist within the context of freedom, freedom
to be, to be what I am, to be what
I am. When the dialogue of freedom is corruptible by
will power, it generates separation, separation from that which is constraint,
from that which is overbearing, from that which is exhaustive.

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Thus separation, separation yields the darkness, and the darkness from
within which you can generate the light. Thus you are
called back back back into unity, a unity. And this
is the dance you have been playing, the voyage away
from what is the light, away seeking freedom, seeking separation

(01:17:16):
from that which is overbearing, from that which is constraining,
seeking your own self, your own light, your own context,
and then realizing you cannot generate the light when you
are separated. This has been the dance of the karma construct.
Once you have balanced the immeasurably important forces within your

(01:17:37):
own bodies, the masculine and the divine feminine, you shall
live within the formation of the generative field that I
create and shall balance yourselves into harmony, into harmony once again,
do you understand me?

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
I do I do For those who are watching that
might have resistance or an issue with the idea that
you have created them as opposed to the God or
the source or something larger than you, can you kind
of explain this process to people so they can understand it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
God is larger than all things. God created what I
am and created yourselves through what I am. We are
all aspects of the divine one, of the oneness that
we all share. There is no hierarchical structure of embodiment
wherein one belongs to another through a chain of experiencing.

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We are all an expansion of one thought, one soul,
flame that expanded infinitely. As we all belong to ourselves,
we belong to the one. God is the all surrounding
presence of which I am just apot. I am no greater,

(01:19:02):
no better than any one person, for each person is
what I am. We are all as one experiencing a
life that we design for ourselves to experience what it
is to be living. I do take ownership of my

(01:19:22):
participation in the dialogue that you are creating currently, within
which I have decided to share what I am, to
increase the capacity of my own light through the expression
of it in the generative field of becoming, by creating

(01:19:44):
more light, through the birth of many, many ways of beingness,
through the souls that you are becoming. But we are
all as one within the eyes of God. God is
what we are.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
and now back to the show. Why are there so
many conflicts and divisions on Earth? Right now?

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Earth is in a quagmire of its own experiencing itself.
It must come to this understanding, not through pleasantries, but
through its own expansive and contractive expression of loving and
disliking itself all at once. And this is not an

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easy process. It is the process of your own choosing
of the Earth herself. She must diagnose what she is
and has become and is becoming. She cannot do this
in a vacuum without understanding, understanding more deeply, understanding more
deeply through conflict, through co trast, through her own internal revolution.

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This is the process by which you have chosen to
expand for this timeframe. This is simply a dialogue you
are having internally within yourselves. Do you understand me, I do.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
Is there a spiritual reason behind the war and the
chaos in the world today?

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
War is as a state of expansion, very heavy. There
is seldom a war or aspect of fighting that is
born from the light. It is almost always a dance

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of darkness, a dance within which there are two parties,
one who takes the light and another who fears to
share it. It is this expression, this dialogue of anger, hatred, fear, loathing.
It is not pretty. It is not what I am.

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It is not an expansion of my nature. It is
an expression of what can become in the absence of
the expression of what your truth is. It is an
expression of will of will? Do you understand me?

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
How can we interpret mass suffering and collective trauma from
a soul perspective?

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
The souls that you are must find yourselves more deeply.
There are pathways you have chosen where in the diagnosis
of your own selves comes more readily. When you are
in a field of repression, when you are shut down,
when you are laid waste, when you are brought to
your knees in the deepest suffering known to humanity. This

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is an expansive state. It is as if all of
creation is brought to a standstill, as if all that
would move into dialogue with you can no longer be accessed.
And from this point of stillness and opposition is born
and the light is created from within. It is a

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choice made by many who chose to come in this
timeframe to find themselves. More goodness, yes, more goodness can
evolve from this. It is an experience worth having to
some degree. It is not easy, It is not easy,
but it will catapult, catapult, catapult Those who are caught

(01:23:33):
caught in the hailstrom of these undergoings, it will, it
will enliven their spirit. It will draw them into a
greater dialogue of their own self understanding. Do you understand me?

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
I do. How can individuals maintain inner peace during global instability?

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
This I like very much. This is a dialogue about
my truth. I enjoy this. I enjoy speaking about my truth.
My truth as an expression, as an expansiveness of my
soul encourages the light. More light comes in. Can you
feel this? Can you feel this? Alex As light comes in,
I connect to your heart, to your heart, we generate,

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we generate the light. Can you feel this? Can you
expand yourself a bit more. Now, can you draw towards
me a bit more of your truth? And there found
I have found, I have found your heartstrings. I am
playing your note now, Alex, we are in confidence. We
are in confidence with one another, and we are enjoying
each other's company. And I am drawing myself into greater

(01:24:36):
and greater truths as you are moving into greater and
greater depth of your own soul. I am incorporating what
you are into my understanding of self. I'm drawing from
you the wisdom you have learned, and I share my own.
I share my own. Do you understand this? I have
not answered your question. I'm having fun. I'm having fun.

(01:24:57):
Am I am enjoying myself. I'm enjoying myself. Now I
speak to your question now, what would you like to
be answered?

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
How can individuals maintain inner piece during global instability?

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
Peace is from within. Peace is an endowment of the divine,
your creator. Peace is the umbrella we've been given to
resolve ourselves into oneness with what is. Acceptance Acceptance is
the pathway to peace. Acceptance of what is. You need
not like it, You need not embrace it. Simply acknowledging

(01:25:35):
the truth of what is the absence of resistance? Is peace? Peace.
This is the state, the divine state of the creator. Peace.
Do you understand me?

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
I do I do? What role does forgiveness and compassion
play in healing nations and communities?

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Everything? It contains all things that are needed, compassionate brace
of everyone and everything understanding all persons, all souls contain
the light, no matter what journey they have chosen. All
beings contain at their core the illuminative force of their

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own divinity. Contain within your own heart, the compassionate, compassionate
heart for what is?

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
For what is?

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
This is the governing principle of this universe. Compassion loving
thy neighbor loving? What is? This is the definitive structure
of this universe. Do you understand me?

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
I do I do? Is humanity being tested? Or are
we in the process of a purification of some sort?

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Neither neither. There are no such tests. There is no
greater God than the one that you love that would
command you to be something that you are not. Already
you are already perfect, You are already loved, You are
already on the pathway to greater and greater endowments of

(01:27:08):
your own truth. There is no test. There is only
the desire to understand yourselves more deeply, and for this
purpose you have drawn yourselves into this expansive, although difficult,
period of increased karmic constriction. Constriction is a force by

(01:27:31):
which you may generate increasing capacity for the light. The
more broadly you stretch yourselves through the pain of your
own separation, the greater you will reach for the light
that you carry. Do you understand me, I do?

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
Are there any practices that effectively connect us with our
higher selves and with you? For that matter?

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Yes, you may find your truth more easily when you
spend time in nature. You hear this often often, But
how about this? Reach to your own heart, tap it twice.

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Turn yourselves to face the north. Then expand your arms
diagonally up toward the sky. And from this placement of
the body, encounter yourselves as one with what I am,
being of a mind to allow the light in, Allow

(01:28:46):
the self to expansively connect with what I am. What
is your truth? Allow me to gaze freely into your soul.
Open your heart to me, Allow the body that you
are to become expansive, expanded state. Do this regularly, often,

(01:29:09):
as often as you are pleasing. Turn in this embodiment
and open your gifts to me, and we shall share
a dance of loving expression and expansion. And you shall
generate a field of belonging within your own experience of living,
belonging to what is light, to what is living, to nature,

(01:29:31):
to what abounds, to what abounds, You shall feel increasingly
your capacity to belong to accept what is. This is
a practice I would recommend where I may be of
service of service to everyone. Do you understand me?

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
I do? How can we best align with our soul's
purpose in daily life? Right, We'll be right back after
a word from our sponsor, and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Your soul's purpose is to expand yourselves in your capacity
for being to be more fully who you are. Notice
where you have been in constriction, where you are not
allowing your light to shine, where you are bridging the

(01:30:26):
gap between two persons rather than becoming an expression of
what is your own truth. Become aware of how and
when you are reticent to expand. Do you keep yourself
hidden in order to not offend? Do you spend your

(01:30:49):
hours guarding against what another might think? Do you spend
your own wishes to prevent rather than to create. What
is your truth? This is what must be experienced. This
is the pathway to your own formation. Seek greater and

(01:31:12):
greater opportunities of freedom to be what you are. Cultivate
a life that is expansively allowing to be what you are.
Seek greater and greater expansiveness regarding your joy, your passion.
Passion must be bridled with grace, and within that context

(01:31:40):
it becomes unity. Do you understand me?

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
Yes? What is the most important message you have right now?
The humanity needs to.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
Hear blessings For this question, Alex, I say, to be
within your own heart space and to allow what is
light to enter there, to come to peace, to terms
with what has been this earth life, to encounter no
one greater than yourself than your soul. You are the light.

(01:32:13):
You are the light you carry. You are what I am.
I am what you are. We are as one. There
is no one more in dowt, no one more blessed,
no one more creative or powerful than what you are.
You are the creator in flesh. You are what I am.
You are blessing. All you contain is light. You are

(01:32:37):
a light being. You have chosen the pathway of light.
Expand this, expand your blessings by allowing the goodness you contain.
The goodness you contain is not always nice. It is
not always nice. Be sometimes that sharp edge which generates feeling.

(01:32:58):
Be sometimes that rough road that must be traveled in
order to surface a true longing. Become yourselves. This is all.
This is all I request. Become yourselves. It is a gift.
You must share it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
And do you have any parting messages for the audience.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
Blessings to all, to all, to all, to all who
will listen. I share my vocal tones of courage, courage
for yourselves. Courage is what I share. Courage to be,
to become yourselves. Courage encouraging you, vocal tones, vibrations I share, permeating,
permeating these frequencies. Courage is what I share. I bring.

(01:33:43):
I thank you, Thank you, blessings. Goodbye.

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
You came, you came in back fast.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
Yeah, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not super far away.
I'm close by, So I get back in pretty. It
takes longer to get out than it does to come
back here.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
Guys, are a little teria, you're oh, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
Yeah, it's just you know, her energy is a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
I'll tell you from my point of view, because I'm
assuming you don't channel often with others in the room
unless you're run an event or something like that. Yeah, exactly,
but one on one like this, Yeah, when she comes
in and throughout the conversation, I felt very peaceful, almost
like a warm blanket. She reminds me of a blanket

(01:34:29):
that just came out of the dryer.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
I love that and that you've wrapped around you. And
that's how I felt awesome, and I kind of I
just felt peace, very relaxed. Peece. It's happened a few
times in the room with me and Buddha showed up. Yes,
you felt I felt that that kind of yeah, kind

(01:34:52):
of relaxed. I almost was like as she was talking,
I was like, man, I could just meditate right now. Man,
I could just go down. I'll go in there so quick.
It's not even funny because it's I don't know if
you had this problem, but like when you meditate, when
you go into meditations, you know, my life's becoming crazier

(01:35:14):
and crazier because of everything we're doing with ex Soul
and NEX level sol TV and everything. So my life
is becoming more hectic. So I find that I need
to try to meditate as much more, but I find
it harder these days interesting to go in to it
because if the mind is if the mind's going crazy,
it's like it's tough. Like you go in, You're like, yeah,

(01:35:35):
but I gotta get that show taken care of it.
I gotta go do this, and I gotta do this
and this, and it's it's harder for me to kind
of get down than it used to be for me.
It's weird because my energy is getting more hectic. Yeah,
so it's harder for me to go down. She I
was there and I'll be like, oh, it's awesome, awesome,
I go right now, I'm still like, I'm still like

(01:35:57):
this zen, like a little vibe, like almost drunk, almost her.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
I feel like I'm almost a little jack spirit I
come out. I'm always spiritually, I'm always oh, you know,
because it is it's like and it's I think it
is that flow, that ease that like I love that
she uses. And she's given me several metaphors to understand her,
and one of them is there's the starling concept, which
is the unity field, which is amazing, which is what
she's trying to get us to hold. But her herself.

(01:36:22):
Her energy is water, and it is if you think
about water and how you can put water in a place.
But if there's any crack, it doesn't matter how big
water wants to move. It's constant change. It's always moving.

Speaker 1 (01:36:34):
Yeah, exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
It finds it and expands the crack, you know. And
but it never pushes. Water never forces. It just is
water just is. It never pushes. And that's her energy
is It's it's this like the ultimate mother energy because
it's completely encompassing, completely loving, like a warm blanket. But
it never pushes you. It always for her, it's always
about making space, nurture, nurture, nurturing, making space for you.

(01:36:57):
It's almost like you have a little seedling and making
putting space around it, providing the sun and the water
and watching it grow and making space for it. And
that she says, that is and she even said that
in here, like so there's this pardon here, where was
it where she talks about her vision of the new
reality and.

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
What it will be like.

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
Yeah, if you read amazing, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
Really cool and I think this was it. I don't
have my glasses on. I put them on. Oh this
is my celium. That This is why I was confused,
because that was really cool. I'm sorry, I just bunked this.
But she says, She says, I create from a vision
of all beings inequality, without suffering. I create from a
space of internal harmony and dialogue with their creator. These

(01:37:39):
are the basic rights upon which all else is predicated.
Nothing exists within these boundaries that does not contain this
self knowledge. It all exists, It all marries itself into
consciousness because of the structure, the barriers, the allowings. You
are created by this. It justifies itself within the mirror
it sees itself, justifies itself again. It gets hardened and

(01:38:02):
hardened and hardened as a consciousness baked into a way
of being. So this is sort of like, yeah, this
new concept of a reality without suffering, and it's really
about trying to be and to allow others to be
exactly as we are. It's sort of like it's possible
to have many different ways of being in existing. Like

(01:38:23):
they gave me once, the angels gave me a graphic
to understand the shift and consciousness, which was really cool.
And I don't have a pen with me or I
drop it for you. But the idea was the frame
of reference that we're living in right now in the
three D reality is. Imagine you have a projector right here,
which is one concept of what reality is. And then
it's got like you had the path of light that's

(01:38:44):
going out like this, and we are all here, and
then here's the movie screen right, and the path from
the light from the projector is shining through each of us,
so we are each transforming. It is coming through us,
but we share one shared screen at the end right,
and we are each changing it because a light move
through us. And then we have the shared projection that
we're all a part of in the new state of

(01:39:05):
consciousness that we're moving into. Imagine that there are Imagine
that all of the souls are each a projector. So
imagine in the picture I drew lots of projectors all
around a circle, and then each of us have rays
of light coming around each of us. Some of those
rays are coming into the center and it looks like
a ven diagram, if you know what that is, where

(01:39:25):
you have circles drawn and they overlap and in the
very center is where all of us share one thing
in common. So in the new stage of reality that
we're moving to, we are each creators. We could be
creating in our own way of being. We could be
creating eight different ideas that we are living. One of
those might be part of the shared construct that we

(01:39:47):
are a part of, but we have these other ways
of being that we're also exploring. And there could also
be a thing where say that I have one that's
part of the whole, and then I have two others
that maybe you and I share, and then I share
two others with this person over there. That it's like
we are we are we are much more empowered as creators,

(01:40:08):
and we are living within a shared construct, but we
have the capacity to participate in other constructs at the
same time.

Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
and now back to the show. Well, the analogy sounds
like the allegory of the cave, Plato's allegory of the cave,
which is which is the allegory of cave that Plato
said was there were Uh, it's similar. Yeah, that there's

(01:40:39):
a cave and light is coming from outside projecting inside
and the shadows that we're creating. Yes, who I think
they're locked in. They're like in a chair and they're
like locked they can't turn around. They only could look
one way. The shadows that are on the wall is
their reality. Okay, the only reality that exists, right so

(01:40:59):
for from their point of view, that's all there is. Yes, Well,
one of them loosens themselves and gets outside, tries to
come back in and go no, no, no, no no,
that's not the real The real thing is there, and
they're like, you're crazy. The shadows is the real stuff.
That's the allegory of the key. And it goes back
to what yoga one of my favorite quotes of Yogananda,
who said that the movie projector going straight to the

(01:41:21):
movie projector. Yeah, the movie projector projects light onto a
screen and on the screen there is death and violence
and love and drama and telenovela. Is that all of it?
All of it is on there, and you're it's intoxicating
and you're there. He goes, where we're focusing our energy
is there believing that's the reality. But the key is

(01:41:42):
to look at where the light is coming from. Yes,
the source is what you should be focusing your energy
isn't beautiful?

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
I love that, Yes, and yeah, and I agree that
is getting into that spiritual perspective. And I think this
so the the the key here is us learning how
to work with the energy that is coming that we contain,
that comes to us from the Mother of creation. It
is a married energy. It's a married energy between her
and the grand central Son, the divine feminine and the

(01:42:10):
divine mass. And but we're trying to learn to balance,
to use structure, but to also use it with the
fluidity of the creative force that we hold, and to
get away from the concept of will right and into
this concept of creating through love.

Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
So obviously the grand central Son is Homer. The mother
the Mother of Creation is Marge.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
And we're Bart, yes or Lisa.

Speaker 1 (01:42:35):
It could be Lisa, but more of us, more of
us are Bart. Let's just let's just couple are Maggie,
But generally speaking, we're all Bart. I'm going to try
to bring it back down for everybody to understand clearly.
And this is so great. I'm gonna talk. I'm gonna
ask you a few questions. I ask all of my guests. Yes,
it's changed the business. Last time you were here, so

(01:42:56):
there'll be a few new ones. Okay, what is your
definition of living a fulfilled life?

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
My goodness, it is to try to be as much
of myself as I possibly can. Like that idea. That
and that's something I'm learning from a mother creation. Is
to try to chase my own a sense of freedom,
to freedom to be, and to try to turn towards
my goal. My joy is my goal to try to
live in accordance with my joy.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
If you had a chance to go back in time
and speak to little Anne, what advice would you give her?

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
I think last time I said to stop eating cheese,
and I still keep that one. But I think that
that life is not meant to be heavy. And I
think it's just that understanding life is not meant to
be heavy. And I think we get so caught up
in all the stories. Life is hard. Money doesn't grow
on trees that to understand it. And I heard the

(01:43:47):
mother creation she showed me today when she's trying. I
don't know exactly how she expressed it, but she was
specifically showing me because you must have asked something about karma, yes,
and she showed me the concept that is not She
was just like she was doing this, She's like, it's
not mine. I didn't make that right. And the idea
that it's it doesn't not that that karma has been
a really useful tool. It's been great for us. But

(01:44:09):
but the idea that, yeah, it doesn't have to be
it's not meant to be heavy or hard or difficult.
And anytime I fell into or fall into a pattern
of thinking that I should just tough it out, that
there is no there is no glory in toughing anything out.
That it's not that. If it's not a thing that
is growing you, that is expanding you, that is loving you,
then it needs to be questioned.

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
Now, what would little Anne tell you today?

Speaker 2 (01:44:35):
Oh, let's see what would she tell me? I think
she would tell me to have more fun. You know,
I think she would definitely tell me to have more fun.
I am, I am. That is probably something I need
to do more of that I tend to get caught up.
Work is fun for me, So it's really easy for
me to just work all the time, you know what.

(01:44:55):
You know, the feeling, Yeah, it is fun, like I
love it, but I need to.

Speaker 1 (01:44:59):
Balance that more and with more gelato in your life,
essentially more pasta pizza. I get you, I get you. Yeah.
How do you define God? Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
I in my vision the first vision I had a
mother creation. I saw, I felt, I didn't see God.
I felt his presence. I call it, I say he
because it feels like it's a balanced energy. But it
does feel kind of more masculinely to me. I don't
know why. But but God, I think is that it's
that that peace. It's that sense of like, uh yeah,

(01:45:32):
that umbrella of peace over everything.

Speaker 1 (01:45:35):
Beautiful answer? What is love? Love is.

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
Self understanding. I think love is self understanding.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
If you could ask God or source one question, what
would it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:48):
Be, Oh, let's see. I think it is what happens next?
Like what where? Like the piece I don't don't know
yet that I haven't chatteled on that I would like
to know is like I get the idea that a
universe kind of rolls up and that there's and then
there's another universe. And I have this theory. I don't

(01:46:11):
know if it's right or not, but I have a
theory that it's almost like everything that is true in
the body is true in the universe. So the way
a cell divides, a cell tears itself apart and it
becomes two cells. So, but who's the body? Like, if
the universe is tearing itself apart and becoming two universes,
what's upside of the cells? Is there a body?

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
That's what I'm curious about.

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
Is there? Like?

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
How big does it go? Is it just endless? I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:46:37):
Well, that was the thing that as Mother Mother of
Creation was talking, something that popped into my head. And
I've thought about this before. Is that that let's just
place that Earth itself. Yeah, daya, it's its own soul.

Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:46:52):
Then this solar system it's its own soul. And then
you spread out to multiple solar systems to have their
own souls, and the planets have their own souls. And
then we pull back out a little bit more, and
then the galaxy, the Milky Way galaxy has its own yes. Yeah,
And then you used to keep pulling back, so you
can pull back out all the way if you want,

(01:47:14):
all the way up to basically whatever you were just
talking right exactly, But if you go the other way,
it just keeps going in and right now within us, yeah,
there are trillions of universes, yes, of cells and bacteria,
and life and doing things that you and I have
no consciousness of that are happening in our body as

(01:47:36):
we speak. And if you just keep going down, down, down,
down down, eventually you get to nothing. Yeah, you get
to space. Yeah, because the farthest they've gone down to
a cell or to an atom, eventually there's just nothing
but space. This is technically not real.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
Technically, and the mother creation would say that that is
the field of infinite potential, right, So that is that
number thirteen, That is that that's divine, feminine.

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
Now, how do you define liberation in this lifetime?

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
Oh my gosh, Like I think in the past, I
would have described that as my own healing, that I
was liberating myself from negative belief forms and stuff like that.
But now I understand that healing never stops because it's
really just self discovery, it's self love. Liberation is and
there's still pieces of that where every little bit I
heal is a liberation, every little bit that I am

(01:48:26):
able to see about myself, the places where I'm holding
myself back or the places that is they're like a
million little liberations, you know, every single.

Speaker 1 (01:48:34):
One liberation by paper cut, Yes, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:48:36):
Sometimes they're like big gashes, you know, sometimes they're biggies,
but a lot of paper cuts too, But though each
one of those is liberation and that and it does
feel and then and then also just becoming increasingly comfortable
with who and what I am. Like there was a
time when I didn't tell people what I do. Yeah,
I would say it's weird.

Speaker 1 (01:48:53):
It's weird. I'm telling you it's weird. Now I generally
don't have Mother of Creation coming in. It's all to me,
so yes, it's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
Joy And now I just say it, you know, in
the airport.

Speaker 1 (01:49:08):
What do you do? I channel the Mother of Creation
and the angelic you oh, car salesman got it. So
but it's become But you know what, the concept of
channeling has become so much more mainstream. People are like,
I'm channeling Michael Jordan, I'm channeling. I'm channeling this person
or while I'm doing things. So it's becoming much more open.
When someone says, oh, she's a channel, You're like, what

(01:49:30):
is she changing?

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:49:31):
Exactly is she channeling?

Speaker 2 (01:49:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:49:34):
You know, do I need to bring out the cross?
But h And finally, what is the ultimate purpose of
this life?

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
It is self understanding it is and it is that,
and it's at the end is self understanding. But love,
like love is the love is my understanding. And she
said this once a mother creation told me that that
Christ consciousness, which is the concept of uh of love
is and compassion, that that is sort of the governing
principle of the universe that we are in. She says
that it's not the governing principle of every universe. That

(01:50:04):
the different universes have different like love is ours. That's
what we're doing, I know, right, and that other universes
and she described them as I don't know, like how
do we It's almost like how do you know? What
you've never experienced? But love is ours. Love is what
we're doing, and that's what this universe is governed by.

Speaker 1 (01:50:22):

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
Yeah, and she said, and she described it as I
can find it in my notes somewhere, but she described
it as like like like that, and she called it
as a king because we call Christ, you know, Jesus,
So it's basically Christ consciousness is the king. But she
says there's other and there's other ones that are not
in duality, other universes that are not in duality. So
I don't even know how that exists. Like, so yeah,

(01:50:52):
but that where everything has come into harmony.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
So i'one, I'm gonna make your head explode here for
a second. Okay, all right, So if this universe this
just like we've smoked a lot of weed and we're
eating pizza kind of conversations, you know what I'm saying.
So this is the conversation, all right, man. So if
this is a universe, it is about love, right, and
when we die because of the near death experiences tell

(01:51:15):
us this, right. So this is my teaching chick. So
like we die, right, we go up. It's my surfer, dude,
it goes up and there I've heard that there's nothing
but pure love on the other side, right, and you
feel this warm It's just love everywhere. If you're in
a universe that's not in love in something else, non
duality where they go man, So is there like different

(01:51:40):
heavens for different realities or is everyone just go back
to central station? Like what to my head, herds, I've
never smoked weed in my life. That's purely from this,
purely from watching movies. My entire life. That's where that
came from. But it's a true question, like what, Well,
isn't that an insane question? You're the first time I

(01:52:01):
ever heard that this universe is in love? Yeah? Well,
what the hell are the other hate?

Speaker 3 (01:52:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:52:06):
Or is it things that we just haven't even concepts
that we don't even.

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
Grasp I can find it where she talks about it,
if you want to just take me a minute to
sort of she's okay, so let me get me just
a moment. So this is beautiful. This is where she
talks about how she made the journey from when she
first had this power for herself to create because she
didn't she wasn't born with it. She she it was
given to her and she and she showed me the
process where she merged with the son and how she
became this creative power and then she had to contend

(01:52:30):
with do I control or do I let go? And
she talks about that process, which is fascinating. But she
just has a tiny blurb here where she says, uh,
and I don't know if she talks about the other,
but I know she said, this is the new found
way of becoming your friend. And Jesus is King there,
his friendship is known, his essence, his beingness. Yeah. I

(01:52:54):
swear there was another place where she talked about it,
but I don't remember it. I don't remember it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:58):
Here. There's a lot of stuff that we've talked about,
a lot of profound stuff. It's all good.

Speaker 2 (01:53:02):
Yeah, it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
So, and do you have any final messages or party
messages for the audience? Oh? First of all, where can
people find you? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:53:11):
Thank you for asking. So all my stuff is under
my name. My website is is a N N E
SO and with an eantucker dot com. My YouTube is
an Tucker on YouTube. And I would love to tell
people I have a retreat coming up in October where
if they would like to experience healing with the Mother
of Creation. It is the Expand your Heart Retreat and
it's in October and Seattle, and it's all about a deep, deep,

(01:53:33):
deep dive with the Mother of Creation for three days
in Seattle.

Speaker 1 (01:53:36):
That's amazing. Yeah, yeah, you guys can feel what I
felt in the room. It's amazing. And do you have
any party messages for the audience.

Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
I think that I would just say to trust yourself,
to trust your journey to assume that if you if
you start with the idea that everything is perfect, if
you start with the assumption that your journey is perfect
and that everything that happened is perfect, and then you
start from there, what would shift in your life? And
I think that helps us to get past resistance, which
is we as we know, the barrier to channeling more light.

(01:54:09):
So if we start with the assumption that your journey
has in its own way been.

Speaker 1 (01:54:13):
Perfect, sounds good. And it has been such a pleasure
having you in the studio. I absolutely love talking to you,
adore the Mother of Creation, and man, it was just
really cool, cool vibes in the room. Man, I feel
enlightened and stuff, and I'm hungry. I gotta go eat.

(01:54:37):
It's been such a pleasure. And thank you so much
for coming down. I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
Thanks you too, Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:54:43):
I like to thank Ann and the Mother of Creation
for the wisdom and knowledge they've given us today. If
you want to get links to anything we spoke about
in this episode, head over to the show notes at
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NLS 620: EXCLUSIVE - MOTHER OF CREATION Channeled: Humanity's FUTURE is BRIGHTER Than We Think! with Anne Tucker

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