NLS 623: MARY MAGDALENE Channeled: JESUS’ HIDDEN Teachings, Their MARRIAGE & CHILDREN! with Christy Whitman

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they represent. Now today on the show, we welcome back
channel are Christy Whitman, and Christy sits down with me

(01:42):
to channel Mary Magdalen and the energy that comes in
is pretty remarkable and what she says, it's pretty eye
opening about the truth of her position in in Jesus' ministry,
what really happened, what his true teachings are, how they
have been manipulated so much by the Catholic Church, and

(02:03):
so so much more so, let's dive in. I like
to welcome back to the show returning champion, Christy Whitman.
How you doing.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Hi, I'm so good, Alex. Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
So much for coming back down to the next Olsoul.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Studios honor with an honor. Thank you for what you
do and all the people that you bring in the
consciousness that you're sharing with the world. It's a platform
for normal freaks like me to you know, be able
to uh to share our gifts and the wisdom that
comes through so well, I.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Hold space so we can fly our freak flag as
much as we possibly can. It's it's always a pleasure
talking to you and to the council. You've been on
the show four times. The number number four four is
number four. Wow, Yeah, you were about you're an og
you went back one of their I think you were
in the first one hundred. I think I was, yeah,

(02:53):
in the first hundred before before we started, you know,
episode almost five. Oh god Jesus six hundred and something.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Dang, good for you. Amazing, I'm getting older by second.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
But it's okay, it's okay, but yeah, it's there's so
much we could talk about. But I wanted to kind
of go into we were talking before he came on
the show about and a lot of times, like I
always have plans of like, hey, I want to talk
about this or I want to talk about that, And
a lot of times I'll sit with the guest before
like fifteen twenty minutes and we'll just kind of you know,

(03:27):
shoot the you know what, and you started talking like, oh, yeah,
I went down to the south of France and did
this kind of like pilgrimage from Mary Magdalene pilgrimage And
I'm like, oh, so, please, let's talk because Mary is
one of my favorite topics to talk about on the
show because she has been bastardized so much throughout history.

(03:49):
The Church has completely just destroy horrible pr people from
Mary Magdalen. Jesus great pr for the most part, a
little twisted, but generally speaking, you know, but Mary's Mary's
really just she's gotten the very short end of the
stick throughout history. But what I've noticed is that her teachings,

(04:10):
her energy is and and feminine energy in general is
starting to come up more because we've been going through
the last thousand years or so, uh, the last two
thousand years, if not longer, of male masculine energy. And
I've said this before on the show, is like that
that energy was needed to get us here, like this

(04:30):
kind of energy that's masculine energy. But now we're at
a place where you can't keep going down that road
without this balance. You really need the feminine to come
back in a strong way. And kwan yin Mother Mary,
Mary Magdalene. These are ascended masters that keep coming, keep
coming up.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
The goddesses, yea, the goddesses or so I opened up
to my feminine nature and and feminine is not the
way someone looks, it's the energy, right, because I was
very masculine in my energy, because as as most girls did.
You know, we look at the females and the males,
and we don't want to be like the women that
don't have any power. The men had all the power.

(05:10):
One of my first books that I co wrote with
a with an author is called Taming Your Health, and
it was all right, I never laughing.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
I'm sorry, let's go back alpha.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
N Yeah, because you know, as women, if we're powerful,
we're considered right as men if we.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Did this very problematic yeah yeah, aggressive, you know, well yeah,
so we didn't have these role models of what a
very powerful, feminine, creative woman look like because Mary Magdalene,
for example, was one that we as women.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Could have easily looked at and followed, but she was
suppressed as most powerful women were, and lied about, completely
lied about. So I opened up to my divine, feminine
goddess energy about thirty years ago, and I started doing
goddess retreats about eighteen years ago because it was this
channeling of this needs to come out. And so I've

(06:11):
continued to do Goddess weekends with women and that sort
of thing. And what happened for me and I was
raised Catholic. I think we've talked about that. So for
me as a little girl, here's what I have as
a role model. Right, You've got the Mother Mary, who
is virginal like and she can do no wrong. And
I was told I was so I can't live up
to Mary Magdalen already and Mother Mary.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
And by the way, Mother Mary, that's all she was, right.
They don't say anything else, like she she's the Virgin Mary,
she gave Christ, the birth of Christ, and she's just
kind of hiding in the background. They never really go
much deeper in it because now apparently the Vatican and
the Catholic Church were terrified of any female power.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Figure exactly an exactly and especially one that had a
baby from God and that was a virgin when have
it right? So it's like, what do you do with that?

Speaker 1 (07:05):
And if and they would have cut her out if
they didn't need to, they would have absolutely cut her out,
and they would have absolutely cut out Mary Magdalene if
they could have, but they're like, she's kind of part
of this story. We can't. All right, She's let's just
she's a prostitute. Let's put something.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
So I had as a little girl, this virgin Mary
who I cannot live up to, or the prostitute.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Wow, when you put it like that, it's it's pretty yeah,
the madonna or or the prostitute.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Right, It's like, where's the in between? Right? Talk about
all or nothing? I mean, so if you know, that's
where it was confusing. It's like there was there's all
these men, which are fine, that's great, but where about
what I'm a woman, I'm a girl. What do I
have to look up to? And my mom was not
someone that I wanted to emulate. My sister was not
someone so it was like, be like, dad, be masculine,

(07:56):
go out there and get you know, get the stuff done.
And that's where, you know, when I opened up to
my divine feminine started balancing that energy, you know, as
a kid. Not to get too personal, but I mean
just the repression and the oppression of my feminine self.
I had horrible periods and you know, like bad cramping.

(08:18):
As soon as I started opening up to my divine
feminine all of a sudden, my cramping went away. My
periods were like totally fine. I had beautiful pregnancies because
I adopted that feminine, nurturing, creative aspect of myself.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
It sounds like it's and this is I think true.
And I'm bringing this up because I believe it's something
that we all do. Is like when you repress something,
it forms into something else. Exactly, So if you if
you reform, if you repress anything about yourself, it will
manifest in other ways, whether it be a disease, whether
it be you know, a disease or something like you

(08:56):
were just saying, or headaches or something physical or even
things outside of you. That this energy that keeps popping
into your life to try to break you out of
that cycle. Yes, it's something that happens to all of us.
But that's really interesting it.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Is it's a universal thing because energy cannot be created
or destroyed, but it needs to flow. And that's like
my new book, which I know we're going to talk
about the flow factor, but the energy needs to flow.
If it doesn't flow and it gets you know, constricted,
or we're restricting it from our coping mechanisms of fight, flight, freeze, fawn,
like those natural animalistic parts that we have. For me,

(09:31):
I was fighting against that feminine part because feminine to
me meant Mom's sister. I don't want we Yeah, they
had no power, you know.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
So fascinating because I've said I think we might have
even spoken about this. I've been surrounded by women my
entire life. So I was raised by single mom essentially,
and you know, my family's my my current family meeting,
my daughters and my and my wife. I'm surrounded by
estrogen constantly.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, I'm the opposite. I have two noys and a
dog is male.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, my cats and their balls been cut off, so essentially,
you know, testosterone. So I've been raised around feminine energy
most of my life. My grandmother and my aunts. You know,
I had very little masculine you know, other than my
grandfather and my father was there as well. You know,
they divorced when I was young. But I was really

(10:20):
feminine constantly. Yeah, and I was raised around strong women.
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show Strong Women who were
go out there and just kicking ass and taking names.
So I never saw women as weak personally, Like, I

(10:45):
just never saw weak women because you know, I'm immigrant.
You know, my parents were immigrants and they didn't have
a choice. They had to go out and hustle. They
had to go out and do that. So when you're
saying things like I was like, I guess you're right.
I just never can neckted that for myself as women
being weak because I was just surrounded by so many
strong women.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Well let's talk about this. Because my mom, she is
a ballbuster. I mean that's not you know, she she
wore the pants she like literally would just drop my
dad to his knees, right, I mean you know he
was She would emasculate him with one look, right, so
and so would my aunts to my uncles, and and
that was just the way it was. But there was

(11:25):
no power. I remember, like talk about imprints, right, we're
all imprinted and if we don't for seven days, so yeah,
I mean all our lives, right, but those Yeah, I
remember when I was seven, my dad and my mom
got in an argument and my dad had my mom's
arm and by the by her back and she was screaming.
My sister and now were playing a.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Tar grave so your dad had your mom.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, So we're at the other side of the house
and we're playing atari that brings you back to her,
and we heard my mom screaming, he's got to break
my arm. So we run in there and she's he's
got her arm and and finally my sister goes over
and like picks him up and you know, like basically
body slams him to the ground. My sister, she was
eleven years older than me, and she was very strong,

(12:10):
very strong gay woman, you know, very just like.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
She just literally picked him.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Oh totally. And he was like screw this, and he,
you know, left the house. And so right, so the
three of us are sitting there talking and I said
to my mom, why don't you leave him? Oh?

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (12:28):
And she and I knew as a kid like this
is not functional seven seven years old, and I said,
why don't you leave him? Why don't you divorce him?
And she said to me, I'll never forget that. She said,
what am I supposed to do about money? And so
in that moment, I made a decision for myself. Here's
where the no man is ever gonna write. I'm never

(12:51):
going to be in that situation. I'm never going to
rely on a man to take care of me, right,
And that's where my imprint. So it's it's like, all right,
what's my career, how am I going to make my money?
How am I going to be? And that's where the
masculine came out, where it's like.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
What do I do?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
How do I create goals? You know? How do I
make something of myself? And it served me really well
until I got in my first marriage, where now I
was emasculating my first husband, you know. And you can't
turn it off, no, because it's imprinted, right, That's that's.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
The mask you put on. Yes, that's the character you
are playing in this life. And that is the coping
mechanism that you created to protect yourself from the world.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yes, until I learned how to heal.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
That correct, Yes, you know, it's it's in it fascinating
that fear is the core of all it is this
right here, what we're going through life is all about
overcoming fear in all forms. That's what this is all about.
In many you could go anything, anything that you're doing,
you can lead it back to a fear of something.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
And and there's either two perspectives and the council who
I know we're going to bring in. When my son
had a bit of he decided to do a backflip
when he doesn't know how to do a backflip, so
he landed to do. Yes, you gotta love it. He's
so company. He's like saw his friend do it, who's
been doing it all his life, and he's like, I
could do that, and you know, lands on the back. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

(14:19):
So counsel was healing his head and they were like,
oh my god, kind of like you just so.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
The Council's healing his head. Now like fast forward, he.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Got a concussion, so Caussel's in and he's they're kind
of like seeing things from a different perspective, right, and
they're like, hey, what's that valve? And they realized and
and I didn't even know this but later researched it.
It's like we have like an on and oswitch. We're
either pushing against pain or resisting fear, you know, trying

(14:50):
to avoid I never want that to happen to me.
I don't want to be in that situation, or so
I'm going to push against.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
You know, the armor myself up.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
We're either do living life like that or we're moving
towards pleasure, because it's like a teeter totter, you know,
up down right, when the pleasure center is turned on
in the brain and we're focusing on having the pleasure,
what I look forward to, the pleasure of this conversation,
the pleasure of you know, being with my boys, the
pleasure of whatever it is Italy exactly. You know, Well,

(15:24):
when I'm looking at when I'm focusing on the pleasure,
I'm not I'm not avoiding the pain, right, But most
of us live our lives in that survival mode of
fight flight freeze Vaughn, right, And that's where we get
into the mechanism of the pleasure has been turned off
because now what's heightened is I've got to protect. I've
got to you know, I've got to I've got to survive.

(15:47):
And the fear that we feel is that information that
something bad is going to happen or it could happen. Right,
think of all the gazillion things on ops and choices
that this world has for us. Some are wonderful, some
are not so wonderful, but most of us get caught
in the I don't want that or that or that

(16:09):
or that or that to happen, so I'm gonna do
whatever I can to avoid it.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Isn't it interesting that we spend most of our lives
focusing on things that haven't.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Happened yet, right, or won't happen or won't ever.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, exactly. I mean we always disasterize a lot of times,
and you're like, I have to invest this money here,
or if you make it like a risky investment, it's
because you're afraid of not having enough. Yes, so you're
like this will cover me or and it's it's it's
fascinating how much we are constantly focusing on things that

(16:40):
have not yet happened or will never happen, and live
our entire live lives around I'm going to lose her,
I'm going to lose him, I'm going to lose my job,
I'm gonna you know, I'm going to die because of
my health or whatever those things are. You constantly are
focusing on things. It's fascinating, it is.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
And that's where my earlier work through the divine feminine
and also understanding that that comes from a space of lack.
I always like to say that there's three states of
being that we can be in and the first one
which most humans are in is lack. That's where all
of those behaviors like you know, procrastination, gossiping, judgment, criticism,

(17:20):
all of that come from, and all the lower level
emotions because that's where heartbreak and grief and all of that.
We can get stuck there because we don't know how
to process our emotions and living. Like we're saying through fear,
we stay stuck in that lack. Lack always feels bad.
No matter what you do, lack feels bad. The other

(17:41):
side of the spectrum of that is abundance. That's where
joy and passion and purpose and freedom and all the
good feelings that we the pleasure of life that we
want right but most people can't go from lack all
the way over to abundance. I saw there was a
I'll call them an influencer on Instagram the other day
that said, Hey, when you're disappointed about something you know,

(18:02):
don't be disappointed, just look at what you can appreciate.
I'm like, dude, most people that are in despair and
are so disappointed with something that just happened cannot find appreciation.
That vibration is so far away, you know, it's like
it is too big of a leap.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Oh yeah, Like I just lost my job, but I
need to appreciate that I have shoes on, Like like yeah,
that in theory, right, in theory, that would be ideal, right, But.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
I've lost my father. I'll just appreciate all that he's
done for me. Well, there's some grieving to do. That's
a natural part of being a human being. And I
know we're going to talk about Mary Magdalen, but that's
the part that she is just teaching me so much,
is that, you know, think about what she had gone through.
She witnessed her beloved literally, I mean, just get beaten

(18:55):
to death. And when I was in the south of France,
we'll talk about that, I had vision and I was
like I was right there seeing this, and I was
just gut wrenched for her pain and for her to
still get up and to have to flee to save
her own lives because all the other disciples were being crucified,
so she was going to be too. She had to

(19:17):
flee while pregnant, and you know, try to escape pregnant,
pregnant and escape, yes, pregnant.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
We'll talk about that.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
We'll talk about that in a minute. And at the
same time continued to have enough gusto, continue to have
enough faith to go speak the word of what she
learned and what she was you know what, what moved her.
But she had to feel the pain, She had to
process the emotions she when she was in the grief,

(19:50):
to stuff it down, to suppress it, she would there's
no way she would be able to get out and
still preach and teach and anoint people. And to her right,
exactly exactly, it doesn't. So the middle gap to get
from lack over to abundance is that place of neutrality.

(20:12):
It's when I talk about the universal laws. It's a
law of sufficiency and abundance. And so what gets us
out and I talk about this a lot in the
flow factor, is that we have to find the neutrality
out of the lack. And what does that is compassion,
not compassion for others because people say, oh, yeah, I
have compassion for others, Do you really if you don't

(20:34):
have any for yourself because you cannot give away what
you do not have.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
If I came up to you and said, Alex, can
I have one thousand dollars, and you're like, I don't
have one thousand dollars. I can't give you what I
don't have, right, same is true. We can't give out
the energy if we don't have it in our container.
We are energy receivers, we're energy containers, and we're energy transmitters.
Law of attraction's all about, right, what I send out
I get back. But what are you bringing in? What

(21:10):
are you holding into your container? What vibration are you
naturally holding? If we're in despair, if we're in grief,
if we're in anger, if we're in fear, you know,
we can't find the joy and the abundance and all that,
especially for suppressing it. So finding neutrality through compassion first
is just even inviting it in, you know, just knowing

(21:33):
that there is soothing energy available right now for us.
We don't have to go do it. We have to
go get something, buy something. Soothing energy is available. We
also have two arms, most of us, that we can
put around ourselves. Right, give yourself a hug, just right now,
just wrap your arms around yourself. Everybody, just breathe into that.

(21:54):
Doesn't that feel good? It's like just even doing that
for ninety seconds because it takes ninety seconds to process
in a month. It's so soothing. It sues our limbic system,
our nervous system. It makes us instead of going out
which we normally are, and our energy, we're coming back
into ourselves. And it's like I can breathe.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Well it isn't I mean in breath. Breath is the thing.
Breath resets your nervousness. Yes, you know. It's like I
do a lot of heavy breathing with my daughters. I'll
stop and go and they're like, Daddy, I'm like, just let.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Me breathe, let me breathe.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
And it works. It does calm you death. It does
calm you down. You're breathing fast, your energy is higher.
When you breathe slower and deeper, your nervous system resets
itself and it's the place where you need to go
in order to go inward. Breath is very powerful.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
It is and also is our touch. So even if
it's not just a hug, putting a hand on your
heart and a hand on your belly, it lets you
come back into you and it's like all right, now
you got the energy, you got your somatic touch and
then it becomes words of affirmation. People do affirmations way
too fast. It's like, Okay, it's gonna be all right,
it's gonna be fine, but you haven't calmed yourself down

(23:10):
enough to breathe, to touch yourself, to just go. Now
that you feel calm, it's like, okay, I'm gonna be
all right. This is this too shall pass. You know.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
It's the thing that people do, Like if they watch
The Secret, They're like, okay, okay, I want a car.
I want a car. I want a car, I want
a car. I'm like, what are you doing? I want
a new car, car car. Like, No, that's not the
way that works.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Right, you know that what the council says about that
using affirmations before the energy work. It's like trying to
plant flowers in a garden without toiling the soil and
just throwing them on the top and walking away. I mean,
they're not gonna get rooted, right, You got to you
gotta dig in and gotta plan them in and take
care of it, and then they get rooted. So that's

(23:53):
why inviting the energy in which think of it this way. Right,
when you look at a piano, every single key has
a tone of frequency. Correct, Right, So we're the piano player, right,
think of the universe as having that whole spectrum of
tones and vibrations available, but who's needs to choose it?

(24:16):
Like pure positive energy becomes what we as the human being,
through our own free will and choice chooses. So as
I go to the piano and I start playing the keys,
now the tones, So as this pure potential energy that
exists right now in this room for each of you,
wherever you are, as you as the human being, go ah,

(24:38):
I want compassion. Now that energy comes to us. We
are calling it in. It's an invitation. We're playing that key.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
I love that analogy because everybody has the same keys. Yes,
everyone has the same piano. Everyone has the same keys.
It's how you play, yes, and what you play It's
up to you. Yeah, And a lot of people live
in the delusion that, oh, that person must have a piano.
But I just have the ukulele, right, that there's anything

(25:09):
wrong now with.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
The ukulele, right, I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Get canceled from the ukulele mob.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
But I just showed that episode of Side Filled to
my son the other day. Not that there's anything wrong
with that and he was like, why did you say that.
I'm like to give you a little bit of good
history here, But you're right. It's like some people play
the keys on the dark side or the lower notes
all the time when they have the full access, but

(25:35):
they don't know that they do because the coping mechanisms.
Here's another thing that the council, God bless the council,
they discovered is that at the back of the brain,
which is our an animalistic part of our brain, there
are certain sections that we as humans learn to cope with,
and on the left side is the fight mode. Now,

(25:55):
last time I was here, I talked about how I
was putting it. Didn't put a cart away at a
grocery store, right, I remember that, and so I don't
yell at me people. But one time in my life
I didn't put a card away in the grocery store,
and this woman yelled at me and screamed at me,
said I'm lazy, And in my mind I was like,

(26:15):
I'm not lazy. I always put the card away. I'm
so hard working. It was my part of my brain
that was fighting back.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Right.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
So that part of the brain, the left part of
the brain, that's the fight mode, and it doesn't mean
like come on, put up your Duke's alex, like we're fighting.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
We're twenty in the twenties, Like what is dukes? Dukes?
And who fights? Like this? Really? I mean this, this
popeye vibe is not really it's not really very positive
at all. Sorry, we want that.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
I'm a lover.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Dukes dukes, like really top of the world. Ma anyway,
So that's.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
The love part. The middle part is the freeze part,
so it's like the middle part of the brain. And
then the right side is our flee right it's the
fight flight So the flight part and when we can
release this part, that's where it gets all the energy.
Something happens our emotional body, which is our lower body.
It goes up our system than boom. It's like that's

(27:23):
where we get the information. Do I either fight this
person put a produx or do I freeze? And then
I hear this a lot. I'm stuck. I don't know
what to do right, I'm blocked, like and I've been
this way for a long time. They're in freeze mode
or when they're in flight mode, it's like do more,

(27:44):
do more? Do more? Do Morris? Why a lot of women,
it's like they you know, they can't have that quiet time.
It's where vices come in. I got to leave myself.
I got to run away. I got to leave this relationship.
You know, people go at from one to another to
another thinking that, and I was like that. In my
first mar I was in flight mode based on that
seven year old conversation with my mom. I'm like, never

(28:08):
gonna do that, Never gonna have a man treat me
like that. I'm gonna leave. And so in my first marriage,
I was in an eight year relationship and marriage. Now
I've been married to Frederick for eighteen years and have
my children with him. But in my first marriage, it
was like if you looked at me wrong. In my mind,
I was like, oh yeah, I got one bag packed.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
It never would it just it was doomed. It was doomed. Yeah,
you can't have a relationship with No, you can't.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
You can't have one foot in and one foot out.
But my coping mechanism from when I was seven years
old had me in that mode because, Uh, if he
leaves the house mad like my dad did, I'm out here.
I mean he was the nicest man and never did
anything even like remotely like my father. But it's like,
you look at me wrong. I'm out of here, you know.

(28:55):
And so that's the and we can't judge ourselves for it.
That's the thing is that went to get out of
that lack and into their neutrality. You cannot have judgment
and compassion at the same time. Compassion lets you live
without the judgment beating yourself up and.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Let me share with you something. So for me, my
imprint was that I needed to work constantly. I needed
to hustle. Since I was a little boy, I had
everything I needed. My parents were wonderful. I never was
in lack. I always had food on the table, I
had a roof over my head, went to Catholic school.

(29:34):
You know, I had toys. You know, it was it
was never I never was like poor. But we worked
for our money. Where were you know, middle class? You
know it was.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
It was.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
It was the eighties, seventies, eighties. But I knew, especially
with my mom when she was a single mom, I
knew I couldn't go ask her. I'm like, I need
a little money to buy this. I just knew. I
never even bothered. We'll be right back after word from
our sponsor and now back to the show. So I

(30:08):
was like, oh, I see what's happening here. I gotta go.
So I started doing hustling. I started hustling garage sales
and selling things since I was a little kid. And
that hustle, that mentality, that imprint drove my life up
to so many years ago, and it's still to be
arguing arguably, I mean, hello, hello.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
I don't see that anymore.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Slow down a little bit, but I'm aware of what
I was doing to the point where I burned out.
I burned out multiple times because I was just yet,
I gotta go. And then I was like, I gotta
do this, I gotta be looked bigger than I was,
and all this kind of stuff when I was a
younger man, and you know, as i'd gotten older, the
body just starts like, dude, you can't do can do anymore,

(30:53):
like physically, And that started the beginning of the slowing
down process for me. Even though it doesn't seem like
I'm slowicked down in the least, but I am. And
I'm just focused energy in very different ways than I
used to. But that was that I'm bringing up as
an example of my imprint. You know, it wasn't like,
no man's gonna I'm not gonna rely. I said, no,
I have to rely on myself. I have to be

(31:14):
able to be the provider. I have to be able
to go out and do stuff no matter what.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
And so in that, did you have a little man
whipping you faster?

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Go more, do more myself?

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, a little man in your
own head.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
I was constant. I'll tell a story. I don't think
I've ever told this story before. So we when I
moved to LA with my wife, we moved to LA
so I could follow my filmmaking career. And I was
in Florida and we moved out to LA to actually,
you know, further my career, and one Christmas, I think
it was our first Christmas there, I figured out this hustle.

(31:48):
I'm very proud of this, very proud. To this day,
I'm extremely.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Imprints are helpful and to a point.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
I'm very very I'm very very proud of this. But
I figured out that because I would. I had businesses online.
I've been selling things on eBay years years ago, so
I knew how to hustle things. So you know, DVDs
on Amazon that's a whole other story back in the day.
But I figured out that game stop the video gameplays.

(32:20):
They were selling a video game for let's say twenty bucks,
but on Amazon they were selling the same game for
fifty bucks. And it was Christmas. So I was like, huh,
that's interesting. So you would think, right like, oh, he
must have bought like twenty or thirty of these games
and then resold them on Amazon. You would be incorrect.

(32:44):
What I spent my time on is like, I'm just
gonna put them on Amazon, and when an order comes in,
I'll take that address and put it ordering the game.
So I was just literally fulfilling.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
It's brilliant right right.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Right, And GameStop stopped at around fifty fifty orders this guy.
But I was making, like, you know, great Christmas money,
all this kind of stuff, and I was so proud.
I was like, babe, look what I did. I hustled.
I got like another six seven hundred, eight hundred bucks
or something like that doing this hustle. And she's like,
why are we here. We could have hustled like this

(33:17):
back in Florida. Why are we here? You need to
stop this and focus on what we're really here to do.
And that was the first time someone stopped me. God
bless her heart, God bless her Yeah, bless her heart.
That I was like, oh, oh, okay, and I that
was the very first time I had to stop and
pause and go, huh what am I doing? I never

(33:41):
because I'd just been going, going, going, going. I was like,
what thirty three or something like that at.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
The time, this endless energy at thirty three.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Do you imagine I was thirty three? Now I would
be dangerous with this brain.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Oh God, but I know now yeah, no, now, yeah, dangerous, dangerous.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
I would be in the best way polish.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Oh, absolutely absolutely. But it was it's about that programming.
It's it really is is interesting what not damage. I
wouldn't call it damage that is done when you're younger.
It is just what you signed up for when you
walked into this. You needed to do what you went
through in order to be able to realize that lesson
and move past it. Without going through it, you would

(34:24):
have never learned the lesson.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
So to say that, and these experiences that we just shared,
someone that has some type of abuse and they had,
you know, some really damaging imprints in their lives that
keep them stay stuck. You know, it's hard. It's kind
of like, hey, be appreciative of that, right, It's hard
to go from I'm still stuck in it because the
energy is still there and the imprint is still there,

(34:48):
and so I'm still because all time is simultaneous, right,
It's like past president, future exists right now and most
people are stuck in that time for whatever it is,
and they can't get to the other keys on the
piano because they're still stuck over here.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Which when you were going through that imprint when you
were younger, that it's that whole arm thing. You could
have imprinted differently totally. You could have been like, oh,
I'm weak or I need to and then you could
have easily found a man like your totally and gone
through that cycle again. But you chose the opposite, right,

(35:24):
So it could have gone either way. It's just your
personality in the way you decided to approach that.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
But you just said it though the way we chose.
You chose that, And yeah, and when we are little,
sometimes when we're six seven, even younger, or even in
our teens or even today, if we don't know that,
we don't have a choice. If we're not aware that
we have a choice, which most of us were not
aware that happened to be that what was accessible to

(35:52):
me I will never do. But you're right, I could
have went the other way, and that that's how a
man treats a woman. And that's what I access what
I love it, that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, exactly. I mean how many abusive relationships men and
women are in because oh, that's how I saw my
mom treated my dad that way, So right, I guess
I have.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
But here's the good news. Here's the good news. Yes,
all of it developed who we are. It's all of
our own individual story. But when we wake up and go, wait,
this is no longer serving me, this is no longer
who I choose to be. I can make a different choice.
We can then heal those parts by releasing the energy

(36:29):
of the past. And I know we were talking about
that earlier. You know, I could bring in the council
and have them do an energy clearing, you know, for
someone that has an imprint, definitely through the fight flight freeze.
Because here's here's the thing. When the energy gets stuck
in the back of the head, what are these two centers?
This is where our you know, the council causes our

(36:51):
faith portal, our third eye, right, it's our intuition, our
our higher finding, higher access. When the animal part of us,
the human part of us, is stuck in that lack,
that despair, it cannot the energy, can't find that higher awareness.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Right.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
So that's why we helped Rea, you know, unblock that
and release that stuck energy so that now you can
have access to the fullness of who you are.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
It's a spiritual acupucture. Yeah. Actually yeah, So let's talk
about your trip in the south of France. Okay, so
you decided to go on a pilgrimage.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Can I tell you the whole story how this set
up because it was just brilliant. So one session that
I was doing with a couple of clients, the one
woman asked me about Mary Magdalene and what not me
the council because the Council was there, and they said,
what you want to you want to talk to her?
And I want to ask her and she's like could I,
And so council brought in Mary Magdalene and the four
women that were on this call were like sobbing because

(37:50):
it was like part of them had been awakened in them,
and they were asked. She was asking Mary questions. So
after that, all of a sudden, I started hearing and
feeling and sensing Mary and I could feel her. I
told my husband, I go, I feel like Mary is
calling me to the south of France. And he's like, God.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
It wasn't Milwaukee. Nothing was wrong with Milwaukee, but you
know what I mean, I feel like I gotta go
to Milwaukee. I don't really know why. I thank god
it was the south of France.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
I'm like, Mary's calling me the south of France and
he's kind of like, good luck with that, you know what.
I'm like, we had no plans, nothing right, And I'm like, god,
I really feel this call. And then all of a sudden,
I'm like, I wonder if there are people that do pilgrimages,
you know, and kind of again, no plans, right, So
I started looking online. I'm like, nobody was really tickling

(38:41):
my fancy, you know, nothing was. I know, I'm in
the twenties. Again, nothing was tickling my fancy. And all
of a sudden, a client emails me randomly, right, nothing's
ever random, and says, hey, Christy, I don't know why,
but I'm being told to send you this person's name.
She has pilgrimages in the south of France for Mary Magdalene.
And I'm like, wow, okay. I mean, I've done this

(39:02):
work prefer myself for thirty five years, professionally twenty five years,
but still when something like that happens, it's still like
a you know. So I was like, okay, So I'm
just gonna sit with this. I emailed the woman. She says,
normally I don't do one on one pilgrimages, and I
wasn't interested in doing it with a big group. I
just wasn't. And she goes, but for you, Mary's telling

(39:23):
me yes. So I'm like, okay, so now I got
the place, Now I got the guide right, and now
I just need to go. And but there was no plans.
The next week, my son, who's a superstar soccer player.
He's in the running right now for being voted Athlete
of the Year, Youth Athlete of the Year. I'm so
proud of him. He got asked to go to France

(39:45):
for a two week soccer camp, of course, and we
said do you want to go? And he said, of course, right,
So we decided we'll give that to him as a
little Christmas gift, right, the whole thing, Christmas Birthday and
and yeah, flat Flag Day, Valentide's Day, right.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
The whole thing.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
So, but he had a condition. He wanted us, either
my husband and me and his brother, or just at
least one of us. He didn't want to be in
France by himself. He wanted someone to be there.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor
and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
And I'm like, I'll go me, I'll do it for
the rest of everybody. No, I will go, and I
I mean, if I have to write the sacrifices we
make for kids, right, No, So I said, you know
one thing, I wouldn't ask you, though. I'll be at
all your games, however, and I and I can't see

(40:48):
him any other time. So I'm going to be alone
in France other than to see him play soccer. Would
you mind if I went down south for a few
days and he goes. I don't care, as long as
you're in the country.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
I don't know what the heck that's about.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
But okay, I don't know either.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
But something goes wrong, I mean the south of France,
I can't get there tomorrow, like in a second. So
I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
I mean, he just what it is. So I'm like,
I didn't. Yeah, I'm like, as long as I can
go south. So I organized it and it was absolutely perfect.
So it was just, I mean that everything came together,
and so I went to the south of France and
I just felt merry. And during this time I did
a retreat for about thirteen women in Scottsdale, and Mary

(41:30):
Magdalene ran the whole thing. I mean, they were just
blown away by the differences between the Seven Deadly Sins
and how she considers the powers of the ego and
and that we don't want to get rid of the ego.
And this is what I've been saying for years. Right,
It's like my teachings and the Council's teachings and her
teachings are so in alignment. It's recognizing those parts of

(41:53):
us that get in excess, that gid in the place
of criticism and judgment. Right, that forget who we are,
all of these different parts that are very human, and
there's nothing we can do about them other than recognize
them and then call in the higher part of us
so that we're not being ruled by those parts of us.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Interesting. So, right, so you go down to south of France.
You you told me that you you were in the
I guess that the temple or the crypt, the crypt
of Mary Magdalene. You actually saw her. They have her skull.
You have her skull? Yeah, on display.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah, it's it's underneath. There's this beautiful basilica that was
created by her friend that she was in the grotto
with Saint Maxim, and funny enough, that's my son's name
is Maxim. And I went into the crypt underneath and
they have her skull and it's encased with it's just gorgeous.
It's encased in gold, and there's these four angels that

(42:51):
hold it. And I, you know, went there a couple
times because I stayed there for a couple of days.
And one day when I went there, I was just
really open, and it was rare because there was nobody
else in there. It was just me, And all of
a sudden, my hands just became like on fire. It
was like I was holding a hot potato and I
could feel my hands like shaking, and they were just

(43:12):
like on fire. And I hear her clearly say you
are a healer. And I'm like in this place, but
in my mind, I'm like, dumb Mary. I already know
that I'm been healing people for you know, twenty five years, right,
and not to be you know, not respectful, but I
already know this. But it was it was a different anointing,

(43:33):
and it was just a full embodiment of that.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
It was turning your healing to eleven.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
It was like, let's cook, let's create a cook let's
churn up the cooker. So yeah, that was one of
the many things that I experienced. I also went and
saw sat at the Rock of Isis and a very
powerful mother divine energy as well. And while I was
sitting there, I could feel this energy from my chakra,

(44:01):
just like you know, going through me and around me,
and it brought in this power that not a power
like force, you know, like a masculine power, but a
very creative power that was just moving through my body.
And then the next place I went was this, Oh
my god, there's so many places, but there was the

(44:24):
Fountain de la More and it's this stream, it's like
a waterfall, and right next to it is a heart
shaped pool and the water is freezing. But I went
in it and oh screaming, But it was where she
anointed women and men and in the way of love,
because the way of love is all about compassion. Right,

(44:47):
you are a human and you're gonna have contrast. This
is what I write about in the flow factor. Contrast
exists in our minds. We could have infinite contrasts that
we were just talking about. Things didn't just happen. We're
worried and thinking about what might or what could.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
And we also worry about what happened already. Right, do
you never really feel like figure out what's happening now? Right?

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Exactly? And the compassion that that whole breathing, that hug yourself,
It brings you back into the now so that you're
not focusing on the past and you're not worried about
the future. That compassion energy that helps the forgiveness. I know,
Jesus talked a lot about forgiveness. When you're in compassion,
you're not in judgment, so there is nothing to forgive.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Very true.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Yeah, let's let's bring in the council first, okay.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
And then as we talk to the council for a
little bit, then we'll kind of bring in the.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
She is just absolutely special. Yep, absolutely yeah, Okay, we
are here. We are back, Yes, you are we are back.
We feel like rocks stars. We are very happy to
be with you, dare one, and very honored to address

(46:07):
everyone that we'll be viewing this, and very grateful for
this moment in time to have these high level conversations.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Oh, thank you so much for being here. We're hopefully
we can do if you're willing to do a healing
for people. Indeed, as we were talking about, as Christy
and I were talking about, so we could do a
healing for people who are kind of stuck in a minute,
But before we get to that, I really want to
I'm really curious about what your thoughts are about AI

(46:39):
right now, because it is something that is everywhere and
growing so so fast, and so many people are scared
of it, so many people are optimistic about it. I
have my feelings about it, but I love to hear
what your take is on it for humanity and its
spiritual evolution and its evolution in general.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Well, let's look at it this way. It's a tool.
It is a tool, and like any tool, you can
find the good or the bad in it. In any circumstance.
You can find some that will freak out about the
bad and let that keep them stuck. Right, there's always

(47:19):
those that will worry about anything. When when you have
something like say COVID that happened years ago, it seems
like eons ago. You had those that were in the
freak out and the fear of it, and others were
on the other side going, Okay, it's like the flu,
We'll get over it. Right, It's not that big of
a deal. It's really about your own individual perception and

(47:42):
are you really biting this thing that is now here?
It is here, and how can you accept it and
flow with it? Because it may not be something that
you use as a tool maybe so for someone it's
maybe not what you use. For others, it might be

(48:03):
something that you use as a tool every day. But
this whole idea that this AI is gonna take over
the world, what's the fear? Look, you have to discover
and examine what is the fear communicating to you. Because
the fear, as Christy was talking about those three states

(48:25):
of being, the fear is coming from lack. And so
if you are fearing anything man, AI, money, whatever it
may be, it's coming from a place of something's wrong
or bad. So this AI thing is going to take
over the world. It's gonna lose people are gonna lose jobs.

(48:46):
I'm not gonna have what I need right, And it's
coming from lack, and lack will never bring you the
abundance that still exists beyond even AI that is a
part of your breath, that is a part of your nature.
Abundance like a key on the piano, exists for you
when you are playing it. But so does lack, And

(49:09):
so our top line experience on this just to say
this is that whatever you fear doesn't empower you. It
disempowers you. And for those that can see the benefit,
like yourself right and use it as a tool, you
will then be in alignment with it. This is one thing,

(49:31):
as a human experience in this time, in this space
that you either align with or you don't.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Let me ask you this. Yeah, I'll play Devil's advocate
for a second. So with a tool like a as
a tool, like you said, but so as a hammer, yes, okay, exactly.
So you could kill somebody with a hammer totally, or
you could build a house. Yes, So it's two things.
The difference between the Hammer and AI is that the
Hammer is a very singular job where AI is doing

(50:01):
everything and it can encompass almost every aspect of our lives.
And that's where I think the fear lies with a
lot of people, where they believe that having that much
the hammer doesn't have that much power. Really, you have
to pick the hammer up. If not, it's just sitting there.

(50:24):
and now back to the show. AI is different. AI
is always running, it's always doing things. It could run
on its own. I think that's where people are afraid of.
Like I said, I'm not afraid of it. Yes, I
feel that it's going to be a positive thing, and
I do believe that humanity has guardrails on it so
it won't.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Go You just said it. You just said that, Yeah,
it has a limitation. Nothing. We will say this to
all of you. Nothing can replace human beings.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
That's not the part of the game. That's not part
of what we're here to do.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
That's it. The divine did not create human beings and
to have human experiences to have it all washed away
by AI or robots or Craig. You all are humans
and there are things. Christie first, you know, when she
saw chat gpt right, she was curious and said, how

(51:20):
does a person get over fear? And the whole came
through and she said, Wow, there goes coaches. Why do
we need coaches? Because someone can read that and still
not have the connection and the guidance and the energy
and all of that. So whatever is huge in someone's

(51:41):
mind of oh God, this is going to take over
the world. It's like that old saying the sky is falling, right,
it's your perspectives. Well, we're going to give it straight
to you. And then we encouraged Christy to write this
in the flow factor as well. There are five things
that each human being has control. Love, the words that

(52:02):
you speak, the thoughts that you think, the perspectives you have,
the feelings you feel or don't, and the actions you take.
That is it AI and all the other stuff and
all it's how you feel about it. There's a subject
and it's how you think about it, what you say

(52:23):
about it, what you feel about it. And if it
feels limiting, you're the only one that can change that
perspective to come into neutrality. If it's scaring the Bejesus
out of you. Feel that compassion, Feel the compassion that
you are a human scared of this thing called AI.
Why are you scared of it? Why is anybody ever

(52:46):
scared of anything? Because it's something they don't understand. And
when you don't understand something, you fear it.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
So is that why when you look at a hammer,
there's going to be too I use hammer as an example,
there's going to be too. Camp One that looks at
the hammers like that is a death tool that is
about killing and maiming and hurting people.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Look at the whole gun, Look at the whole gun
guns in America, right.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Yeah, But unlike gun, though a hammer can build a house. Yes,
it has a very very very positive thing yes to
it as well. So it's it's that ludicrous for us
to be. You know, if you're if you're thinking, if
you're looking at a hammer and all you think about
is the death and the destruction that it can do, well,
that's saying a lot more about you than the hammer.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
It does, right, it does. It's what it says about
you is where your consciousness is. Because we would venture
to get to bet that if you're scared about a I,
you're also the ones that were terrified about COVID. And
if you're terrified about that, you're terrified about the president.
And if you're terrified about that, you're terrified about exactly.

(53:52):
It goes on and on because you're living in a
pool of fear. You're living in a pool of appointment
or regret or frustration or this perspective that things are
not going to work out for me, and life is scary,
life is against me. It's like Einstein said years ago, right,

(54:15):
you can either look at life as if everything is
a miracle or if nothing is a miracle.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Right, everything just happened.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Right, right, right, And so when you look at, hey,
this AI thing, I don't know how it's going to
affect me, but I know there's good that I can utilize.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Where do you see humanity going right now? Because we're
talking about a lot of fear, and there is a
lot of fear, a lot of fear because there's so
many changes happening so fast. I mean, I literally can't
keep up with AI as an example, Like it's changing
so rapidly. I've never seen anything like this in my life.
I mean, things usually took a lot longer for change,

(54:56):
but this is changing weekly, daily, almost sometimes. But there
that's happening in so many different arenas of our lives
that people are terrified about things changing so much. So
where do you see put people's either scare the Jesus
out of people or put them at rest.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Oh, we're not in the business of doing that, but
we will say to your perfect example, you started a
show Next Level Soul. You started having spiritual teachers, psychics, channelers. Right,
look at how fast it grew and what you are
creating from this show and consequently helping others to do,

(55:37):
is there is a big energetic opening for more light,
more consciousness. You and Christy were talking about how the
self help industry is going to be growing and the
spiritual sector is growing. Why because people are tired of
being there and they want a different way, and if

(55:57):
there is a choice, they want to find the teachers,
the psychics, the channelers. They want to find the tools
and what will actually help them get back into the
flow of who they really are. When you're over here
in this lack, you know every human does. There's more
to this. There's more to the there's even that hope

(56:20):
of there's got to be more to this than just
working nine to five, paying the bills barely. You know
they're dying ending, right, It's like oh when you go
when you're gonna get college, get married, have kids, and
then what's the next die?

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Right?

Speaker 2 (56:38):
There's more to this, and the more to this is
the energy. It's the flow, it's the connection that you
bring in and having yourself move out of that fight
flight freeze.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
That is.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
We love to tinker inside brains and play with clients
and we're like, ooh what does that do? And then
the person's like, oh, I feel so good. Oh that's
the pleasure. Look at what we do when we activate.
We could do that today. When you activate, it's like
that teeter. It's an on and off switch. When you
activate the pleasure center, everything shifts because the energy shifts.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Can we talk a little bit about the importance of
the body, the physical form in it's in its ability
to help connect or help disconnect us from the divine. Yes,
because it is something that people don't talk about very often,
that the body is just this thing, it's a meat suit.
But it is not. It's we are the radio if

(57:36):
you will, tuning in yes, and there's blocks all the time,
and the power is not connected sometimes and all this
kind of stuff. Can you talk about what the importance
is of our body and what we're doing to it,
what we're feeding it, how we're working with it, and
how it works in general to connect to a higher
higher power.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Happy to So there are four bodies. You have your
physical body, which most are aware of. You have your
mental body. You have your emotional body, and then you
have your spirit body, your soul body or light body.
The physical body is the one that is most dense
and the one that you can't see your mind body.
You can't see your emotional body. You have access to

(58:16):
your physical body. But we will tell you what goes
through your mind affects your physical body, and what goes
through your mind you think about We said the five
things now, words are the spark of creation, and that's
in your head. That's not in your emotional bodies, not
in your physical body. It's in the mind, words, thoughts, perspectives.

(58:39):
Three out of the five things that are happening within
your consciousness are in the mind. Right, and the mind
when it gets ignited with something you think a thought
that doesn't sound good, feel good, boom. Now your emotional
body gets either triggered or it gets happy be or

(59:00):
whatever the thought was. Let's all practice this. Let's let's
like Dick and Jane Kindergarten type of thing, say to yourselves,
nothing ever works out.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
For me, Nothing ever works out for me. Who you
could feel.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
It right instantaneously. Yeah, well, let's get rid of that.
Everything always works out for me.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Everything always comes out as for me, and it's yeah,
it's a completely different.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Energy it is. Yeah, so the mind thought it, the
emotions got ignited, and then the body had biochemical reactions.
The limbic system shrunk and the nervous system closed down.
From the first, but from the second, from when you said,
things always work out for me, right, and who who's

(59:48):
in the twenties, everything always works out in aces for me.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
Yes, you were making fun of Christy with her put
up your dukes. We're gonna have to tell her that
to give you that back, because that's that's right, right, Yeah, okay,
so note to sell for mine, Christia that so she
could give it back to Alex.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
So, but you see, it's like the physical body, and
the same is true.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
And now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Let's look at it. The emotional body. If someone is
in despair, if someone is in frustration, if someone is
feeling fear, and the emotions have gone as far as
they can in the containment of that emotion. Is what happens.
If you have a bathtub and you stop the flow
of the water going out, but you keep the water,

(01:00:50):
it's going to overflow. Yes, So in the emotional body,
if it doesn't have an outlet or release place like
the bathtub, it's gonna go into the body. It's gonna
go into energy, into the shoulder, into the digestion, into
the head, that head pressure where you get migrains, right,

(01:01:11):
or you get you get that those those headaches. It
has to. The physical body is the It is the
container of all that the mental and the emotional body manifest.
So physical body is the manifestor. Now here's the good news.

(01:01:35):
If you start beating your mind with positive thoughts, and
a lot of times it's hard to start there with
the mind. You need to go into the emotions and
clear out those old emotions. We feel compelled to say
this too. We're gonna bring up a story from Christie.
When Christy was seventh and eighth grade. She really felt

(01:01:58):
this need to connect with other kids, and so she
wanted to be a part of a team. And so
she would leave the house and say, I'm gonna go
try out for cheerleading today, and her mom would say
to her, now, don't be disappointed if you don't get
it right. And then when she comes back home and
days later, when they announced the cheerleaders and she wasn't

(01:02:20):
on that list, her mom would say, well, life is
full of disappointments. So this happened. Softball, track, tennis, she
try basketball. She's like five nothing and you know, and
she hated running, and so she would try out for
all these things and every time, the slap on the

(01:02:40):
back would be, don't be disappointed. That's the tape. Don't
be disappointed. Don't be disappointed. Don't be disappointed. And then
on the other end, well, life's full of disappointments. So
you're telling me to not feel life because you're telling
me that this key on the piano is a no no,
don't feel that life is full of it. So it's

(01:03:02):
a block, it's a shut down. So what you're going
along and all of a sudden you feel disappointment and
instead of processing it, crying, letting yourself feel the pain
of it, feel the actual energy of that emotion. It'll
go away within ninety seconds. Sometimes it takes a couple
more rounds, depending on how attached someone was to a

(01:03:24):
certain thing. But you feel the emotion and then you
have access to the flow of that compassion. You have
access to the flow of the next thing that gets
you eager and excited for life. Right that energy gets blocked,
an energy like a caged animal. It doesn't go anywhere.

(01:03:46):
It just gets bigger and bigger and bigger, and it
creates more of an energetic vortex, which then draws things
to it, because that's the signal that's coming out. So
your mind might be saying all things work out from
but this emotion down here is saying, don't be disappointed.
I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed. And now you're like a beacon

(01:04:07):
of more things that disappoint you. We've seen this over
and over. You release the imprint of disappointment in this case,
and now you flow a different energy inside of your container,
and the frequency then doesn't vibrate, and you're not that
beacon that calling out to more things. People's situations that

(01:04:29):
will then disappoint you. Now you replace it with oh,
surprise and delights, joy, fun, pleasure, and now you draw
to you that beautifully said.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Now, can we can we do a little bit of
a healing before we bring in a the Miss Mary.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Magdalen, Yes, oh, she's honored. Well. One thing else we
wanted to say about the body, because the actions right,
the actions, So what you eat, what supplements you take,
whether you're moving your body right, This is basic stuff,
but it is they everybody says it, because there's a

(01:05:06):
reason getting proper sleep right, all of those actions they
have created momentum from the words, from the thoughts, from
the feelings, from the perspective, and then the action. So
if someone is feeling self love and accepting themselves, they're
gonna want to eat well. If someone is in the

(01:05:26):
space of focusing on their well being, they're gonna want
to move their bodies and sleep well and take supplements.
It all it's a momentum that gets created. And the
last thing, whether it's a behavior or reaction and action
of any kind, that's what the body then does.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
So thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
You're welcome. Were always so delighted with water. It's such
a beautiful and we recommend that you know doctor Emoto
years ago messages of water, blessing your water before you
drink it, and understand blessing your body the first thing

(01:06:10):
in the morning when you wake up, Oh, I got
another day, even if your body doesn't feel good, or
you have aches and pains, or you have disease. As
you are the god of your body, you are the
commander to all of the cells. All those cells have
little ears that are like, what is she saying to
me today? When you are blessing your body and you're

(01:06:33):
thanking your body, that hug thing is so oh, give
yourself a hug and feel the love that you have
for your body for all those cells. Your cells will
release all the gunk and all of the stuff that
blocks the flow and brings you back into the flow
of your natural well being, which is your God given gift.
Is the it is the standard through which you were created. Beautiful, Yes, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
So yeah, can we do are indeed?

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
So let's have everybody just close your eyes and turn
your attention inward and at the back of your head
and neck, right where the curve of your head and
the top of your spine. If you were to put
your head back, you would crunch your finger if you were.
There's a divot right in there. This is a release valve.

(01:07:23):
You know how you have many chakras throughout the body.
This is one that doesn't really get talked about. This
is a release valve. So we want to imagine that
you're opening it up, kind of like you're turning on
the shower, you're turning on the bath, you're turning the knob.
You're opening that up, and just imagine that the energy

(01:07:46):
is releasing out the back of your head and neck.
And now what we want to do with all in
all time, not just now with you and the studio,
for every single person that will be watching this, they
get feel pressure of all of everybody's heads already through time.
What we are going to do is really help you

(01:08:07):
with the back of the head where the fight flight
and freeze. Again, as Christy was saying on the left side,
is that resistance. So imagining that the energy from whatever
you've been ruminating about, whatever the resistance has been, you're
releasing that out through the back of the head and neck,

(01:08:29):
and you're just through that release valve, letting that good,
letting that release and just feel the pulsation. You may
feel a little light headedness or dizziness, little nausea, Just
stick with that. That's just old struck energy that's moving
out through the back of the head and neck. Good.

(01:08:50):
So letting this release from the left side. You can
imagine any thoughts that you've been focusing on, such as
ones that have been viraling in and they've had no
way out, such as I don't know what to do,
or I'm frustrated. What am I supposed to do? I
don't understand. These are a lot of ruminating thoughts. Just

(01:09:14):
let all of those just release out, like you're giving
the energy an escape route. Let all of that energy
release really good. There's a lot of resistance energy with
your group here, so we're just still working on the
left side of the head and good, just letting all

(01:09:36):
of this go fantastic. We're gonna also then move to
the middle part of the brain where the stop the
freeze is and whatever you feel has been blocking you
feel and imagine that this energy good, This energy is

(01:09:59):
releasing o out the back of the head and neck. Oh,
your viewers are really going to get a lot out
of this. This is big stuff. We're feeling them in
the realms, in many different dimensions, in many aspects of time.
So just letting good, Alex, that's good for you too.
Just the place where in the middle of the brain,

(01:10:22):
at the back of the head, just that animalistic part,
letting that release out really good.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
and now back to the show, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
And then also we're continuing now to the right side,
which is the flight part where you feel you need
to leave yourself. You need to get out of your
own body, you need to get out of your own head.
You want to get out of the situation. You feel
like running, running faster, doing more, just letting all of

(01:11:05):
this energy release. Now understand, as we are doing this
release of the energy, this doesn't take away your human
ability to have these coping skills, but now you'll have
greater awareness when they are happening to then create a
different option, which is flow. Very good. All right, We're

(01:11:27):
going to continue to release that as we now start
to open up the top of your head. Good good,
release the top of your head, your spiritual center. We're
going to start opening that up, letting more light come
through through the seventh chakra at the top of your

(01:11:48):
head through the spiritual center. As this is moving in
and the old energy, the old energy is releasing out
the release valve good, bringing in that light. Yes, letting
that light fill your entire brain, your mind, just filling

(01:12:10):
up with light, fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
And we will also then work through your third eye
through the faith portal. We're really blasting you. Also. Just
stick with this. There's a lot of energy moving going
through your third eye, which we call the faith portal,
letting the energy, this light energy move through your third

(01:12:40):
eye all the way into your pineal gland, all the
way in the center of your head. This is like
a spiritual eyeball that then gets activated and starts to
create more spiritual sight, more higher awareness.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
And we're going to have all of you as this
is all happening and releasing and getting activated. We want
to have you all blend with your soul. So imagine
your soul, which is your light body, which is your
spiritual body. Imagine that you have your soul surrounding you

(01:13:23):
five feet above your head, five feet below your feet,
five feet in front of your body, to the back
of your body, and all the way around like you
are in this beautiful orb of light. Your soul is
always with you. And just feel your soul's light pouring

(01:13:48):
down through the top of your head, pouring in through
your third eye and filling up your entire mental body.
So the energy that then manifest the words and the
thoughts and the perspectives. The energy is being doused with
this higher energy. And let all the old energy release

(01:14:12):
out the back of the head and neck. Fantastic. All right, now,
we're gonna have you focus down into your belly, below
your belly button. This is your emotional body. This is
where a lot of energy gets stuck, and many times
it is the emotions that then create the activation of thoughts.

(01:14:35):
So what we want you all to do is imagine
taking your hand and putting it on your belly. Be
nice with yourself, don't push on yourself, Just gently touch
yourself to give your mind a focus of where you
want to bring your attention. And much like you would
try to not try, much like you would check your

(01:14:56):
pulse or your heartbeat. There is an energy pulsation in
your belly, and we want you to think of yourself
like a surfer waiting in the water to catch a wave.
Let yourself. Just feel whatever pulsation is happening, whatever brings
your mind to a certain awareness good, and let yourself

(01:15:21):
just feel that pulsation. That's the energy. You don't have
to define it, you don't have to name it. You
don't even have to describe it or tell a story
about it. It's just energy that is ready to be released.
Now continuing to open up the back of the head
and neck. If you're feeling any dizziness or tightness or pressure,

(01:15:42):
let yourself focus down all the way into the belly
and let this energy start to dissolve like a bath bomb.
You might start getting pictures or images. Stay focused down
into the belly and let this energy just pulsate out,
let it move out. And as it starts to release

(01:16:05):
out whatever you've been holding onto, imagine that your soul
light is pouring in this compassion energy, filling up your
emotional body with this light filling up just like it
filled up your mind, filling up and transmuting the lower

(01:16:25):
level energy with this higher light. And take a breath,
breathe all the way out into your belly. Feel the
energy poll sating out, and again, if there's pressure in

(01:16:46):
the head, just seeing that energy releasing out the back
of the head and neck and then pouring in that
light down through the top of your head, good, filling
up all the way down into your belly, through your arms,
through your legs. Let's do one little extra piece. We'd

(01:17:11):
like you to see and experience your cells, the trillions
and trillions of cells that make up your physical body.
Imagine that all of those cells are turning downward, like
you have an old cup of coffee and you're gonna
just dump it out any energy. Just imagine all of

(01:17:32):
those cells are releasing out and down, just everything just
releasing down. The organ cells, the skin cells, that every
blood cell, just everything just turning downward, releasing all of
that out good, all the way down to the bottoms
of the feet and the tip of the fingers. Just

(01:17:54):
every cell releasing down. Now as you command your body,
all of the cells turn back up, and now they
are filling up with light. See it as a cascading
light pouring through, being filled up from your source, your soul.

(01:18:16):
This beautiful, high refined energy moving into every brain cell,
every nail cell, every skin cell, every organ cell, just
pouring in, filling up very quickly, moving into and around
and down, your hips, your spine, your nerves, cells, just

(01:18:38):
filling up with this gorgeous, beautiful, gossamer light of your soul,
blending even deeper at a cellular level with your soul's light. Good. Now,

(01:18:59):
this is planting little seeds. You know, if you create
a garden, you plant some seeds and some may bloom
right away. Other things may need to germinate a little bit.
But as you are literally filling your container with light,
and all four of your bodies, your light body, your

(01:19:20):
spirit body, the soul body, whatever you choose to energy body,
whatever you choose to call it, it already is light.
And you then fill up your mental body with this light,
and your emotional body with this light, and then your
physical body with this light. You literally have change not

(01:19:43):
only the vibration but also the cellular structure of your
physical body. So take a breath and breathe out. Go
ahead and wiggle your fingers in your toes. As you
come back into the room that you are in, Imagine

(01:20:07):
stretching your body. If there's any place where you have
aches or tension or tightness, imagine that light is moving
into that area because it's just energy releasing from the body.
Give yourself a beautiful hug and tell yourself thank you,
tell yourself something wonderful positive You've got this life is good.

(01:20:30):
I am good, I'm amazing, my soul rocks. Whatever you
want to say, something positive, and when you are ready,
come back into the room feeling refreshed, renewed, and revitalized.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
and now back to the show. Thank you so much
for that. That was beautifull you are well. I was beautiful.
I was beautiful. I felt all sorts of things going
on through that experience. So if we can, I would

(01:21:09):
love to talk to miss Mary, if that's possible. I
think she has a few things to say.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
Indeed, this is a great poss and thank you again.
It is our great honor. Dear one. All right, let's
go get miss Mary. Hello, dear ones, this is Mary.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Hey Mary, thank you so much for being here.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
Such a delight. It's a long time coming. And I
wasn't a whoror.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Well, let's talk about that a little bit. As I
always like to joke that you have very bad pr people.
Your public relations has been pretty rough throughout throughout the years.
Can you explain a little bit of what your part
was in Jesus's life, Yesha was life and from the

(01:22:06):
beginning of his ministry all the way to the end
and then beyond. And what was your true part in
this story as opposed to the part the story that
we have been told by the Church and by the
powers that be that wanted to diminish your part, if
you will, in this story.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Jeshua healed me by his presence, and as any great
master will do, he brought the light which allowed me
to access my own light and the despair that I
had been feeling and the grief that I had been
feeling and going through in the darkness that I had

(01:22:47):
been overcome with the part of the ego. And as
Jesus or that the Bible would say, the seven sins, right,
I was diminished by them. I got permission. He gave
me permission. What he did for everyone is he gave
everybody permission to not have to go through someone or

(01:23:11):
something to find divine connection.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
The opposite of the church.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
Indeed, and it really was his intention to have everybody
have this access and the church be built. He did
want to create a church that was different than what
he knew and how he was raised and how most
people were brainwashed, because he wanted everybody to know that

(01:23:39):
they too are the master of their life and that
they could go direct to our father.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
So when did you meet Yeshua.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
I was later in life. I was in my late twenties,
and that's when I met him, and I immediately felt healed.
And when he had two other disciples that were following
him at the time, Thaddeus and John and a different John,

(01:24:09):
and I was the third to start following him, and
we would go around and witness the miracles he I
was there when he when he healed the leper, when
he healed the person that had leprosy.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
Well, Mary, let me ask you, this, wasn't it odd
at that time for a woman to just be walking
around with a bunch of dudes. It was ye, So
how did that work?

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
My soul just had to go the feeling that I had.
It was more than just a teacher like Thattius and
John had. There was an affinity that we had for
each other. And as Matthew even said, and this did
make it into the Bible and scriptures that you know,

(01:24:56):
Jesus loved Mary the most. He many times would kiss
her on the mouth. Well, there was a reason for that,
and I wasn't before. It was because we had that
beautiful union that human beings get to have in their
human bodies. When you know you're married and have been
married long time, When you have that affinity for someone

(01:25:19):
and you have that connection for someone, you want to
have the bodies also unite and have that union because
that is beautiful. There's nothing wrong with that, Well, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
Isn't it this kind of lie that has been told
to us over the years that spiritual leader, spiritual masters
aren't supposed to have that. Yeah, they're supposed to be
monks or they're supposed to be you know, resign against that, Vera.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
We know how that went with the Catholic Church.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
To Shay to Shay.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
It's a physical need. Humans want to be attached, you
want to be killed, you want to We have these
organs not only to just make a baby, but when
to make a baby, what has to happen. The penis
has to go into the vagina, and there's pleasure that
is had when that happens.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
I always found it fascinating that there is so much
pleasure in that indeed, and yet it was that's very dirty,
that's very nasty. Well why yeah, why why why.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
Would God because someone said so?

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
Right, because someone else was, you know, for whatever reason.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
They were building control and manipulation for the same reason that. No,
it wasn't just me. There were five other women that
were following Jesus. Really, yes, Tomorrow and there was all
these other marries.

Speaker 5 (01:26:44):
Everybody was named Mary, but there was Tomorrow and there
was other Marris, including Mother Mary, who was just the kindest, loving,
most nurturing soul of a person.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
So, as you're going through the industry, and please correct
me if I'm wrong, did you help Yeshuah with his ministry?
Because from what I understand you came from a family
of money. We did, yeah, and you actually helped finance.
Is that true?

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
It is true? It is true. And here's the thing.
It wasn't just Jesus that would go out. He gave
the power to his apostles, to the disciples to have
the same power as him. And that's what his message was,
is that there's a group in France and that was
all over Europe and they were called the Cathars, and

(01:27:35):
the Cathars were the true descendants. If you will of
the teaching, and they had they did what Jesus wanted
everyone to do, and that was to go out to
by two. They we would go out together. Wasn't just
there were moments when it was just Joshua, but there

(01:27:55):
were What he wanted us to do is to go
out to by two, to be feminine and masculine, so
that you would have both sides of it. And so
the Cathars they really followed that tradition further than anybody did.
And it was always a feminine and a masculine that
would go out together and spread the word of love

(01:28:18):
and forgiveness and creation.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
It's everything I can do, you can do in more.
The Kingdom of Heaven is within you. These are the
core teachings exactly of Yeshua. Yes, so as you're going
through the time which was short, it wasn't very short,
it was very short the time. So you were in
your twenties, at what point in his ministry, Well, he

(01:28:41):
was already on his ministry, he was already moving forward.
You just jumped in early.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Yes, we were one of his earlier followers, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
Earlier followers. And Mary was always there mother marriage, yes,
always was there as well as you were going through this.
You were a witness to what he was doing, arguably
closer than anybody else, indeed even more than his mother. Indeed,
when he started to get I mean, from what I understand,

(01:29:11):
he was a troublemaker quote.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
Unquote, well he never he knew he had a mission right,
and he was true to that mission. He was true
to his father, and it didn't matter what the opposition
was or what nobody else wanted him to do. The
light within him needed to be expressed, and he was
one that never would ever for anyone dim his light.

(01:29:35):
And that commitment is what just enlivened him.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
So as as the opposition became stronger in his ministry,
because I was saying, he was called the troublemaker, he
was kicked out of many towns. He was you know,
he would go wherever And please correct.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
Me, scause it was blasphemy what he was saying in
the eyes of flipping.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
The table over and that whole thing he was. He
was in danger, many times, physical danger. People were like,
we got to kill this guy, Yes, because that was
a time where people were killing left and right. Not
that much has changed today's world. How did you deal
with this? On not only a spiritual level, but on

(01:30:18):
a woman watching her man. You know, a wife watching
her husband. And we'll talk about the husband and wife
thing in a minute. Go through this because it's one thing,
you know, if anything happens to my wife, if she's sick,
if she's ill, if she's injured, it really hurts me.

(01:30:38):
Same thing with children as well, but specifically with my spouse.
I can't imagine what you went through. And also at
a time where we'll be right back after a word
from our sponsor, and now back to the show. You
were I mean, and please correct me if I'm wrong.

(01:31:00):
I was hunted, not only hunted, but you were. You know,
livestock had more respect than women got in many places.
Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
That is absolutely true?

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
How did you deal with that?

Speaker 2 (01:31:11):
As we want to bring because you were asking. This
energy of the divine feminine has been coming through for
the past couple of decades now and it's now stronger
than ever. And the reason is is because the female
in what we all learn from Jesus is that we

(01:31:32):
are human. So even though he was this messiah, he
was so angry that he turned over the tables and
he did all that he was human, and there's that
human tendency of to bypass or to not allow or
to suppress right, even what we were talking about the
sexuality of what a human wants, right, and so the

(01:31:55):
human emotions, we had to feel them. We couldn't run
away from them, and I had to. I had to
escape and cry and feel the piercing of the pain
because it was out of our control. We knew, we
knew we were the rebel makers or the troublemakers because
we were opposing what needed to be said and what

(01:32:18):
had to come to light. But there was no other
way to do that, because if you have the contrast
and the untruth, and then the truth comes out, there
are some that are not going to like it. Right,
you always have humans. You all have your own human
brains and your own ways of interpreting things. You and

(01:32:40):
Counsel were just talking about AI and how it's an
individual perspective. All of us dealt with it very differently.
How I dealt with it is I knew that I
was still alive, and so I had to, inugh absolute
respect and reverence for him, love it and for our

(01:33:01):
father for that his will be done. And it was
the time that a new perspective. The council talks about
being an energy mastery of an energy master, and Yeshua
it was the ultimate energy master. He knew who he
was and he knew his mission, and he wouldn't let

(01:33:22):
anything stop him, even opposition from the truth that he
was speaking. And so because I believe so deeply in
my life changed and all of the people that we
saw the miracles happening with this truth couldn't be squashed anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
The miracles specifically, I wanted to ask you about because
it's fascinated me, you know, Yesha's life has fascinated me
as a former Catholic or recovering Catholic, as I like
to joke, but I always am fascinated with those missing
years from twelve to thirty, those eighteen years. I imagine

(01:34:02):
that you met him after obviously when he had already
come in on the Donkey.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
No, I met him before the Donkey.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
You met him before that, So you met him before
the Donkey.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
Yes, we were his earlier, so this was before.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
He came back. Indeed, So then what happened in those
eighteen years, because there's been a lot of myth around
those eighteen years. Where did he go to Egypt, did
he go to India? Did he learn the yoga ways?
Did he go to Tibet? What did you what did
you witness? And what do you know to be the truth?

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
Well, what we got to speak about and what he
revealed is all of those different traditions that he learned.
And he did live in Egypt, and he did learn
about the different connections that he had there and to
bed and he did travel. He also would he was
a carpenter. He was a bricklayer, right, so he did

(01:34:51):
the manual work of doing that, but while he did
he would teach others. He would talk to the fellow
bricklayers and carpenters about what he learning. He'd always been
a teacher, even from a young kid. He would spend
you know, hours upon hours in the in the well
the traditions to be able to learn what the scriptures

(01:35:14):
so that he was able to know them. But then
he went beyond them in his learnings and travel.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
So with that's very interesting that you say that he
was like a brick layer and a carpenter. It's not
really talked about, but you know, during those eighteen years
he had to make a living. He did you know,
it wasn't you know, he hadn't met you yet exactly.
So he had to make a living and he had
to make his way. They don't think about the you know,

(01:35:43):
the teenage years or the young early twenties that he
had to work. But he was still learning. Yes he was.
He wasn't a monk in Egypt. He wasn't a monk
in Tibetan. He was working and earning his way while learning. Yes,
he was being human.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
Yes he was being human. Yeah, well he wasn't. It
wasn't his time yet. His the father did not. You know.
Let's bring it to your life, Alex. All of that
you were talking about how you were a hard worker
and you went moved here from there and you learned
your things, right, it wasn't your time yet to have

(01:36:21):
your podcast, to have your show. Right, if you would
have started it back then, it wouldn't have been received,
it would have worked.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
I wasn't ready.

Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
You weren't ready. He needed to become ready, just like
everybody else. I needed my own journey of being in
despair and being where I was still not war, but
where I was, in order to appreciate that. That's really
what Christie's in the Council's new book. The flow Factor
is about, is that the contrast of any life experience,

(01:36:52):
it's all in development. It's also that when you have
that joyful day, you appreciate it because you had the dreadful.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
Where were you in your journey when you met Yeshua?

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
I was in despair. I was in a place of
I was really down. I was lost. I was lost.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
You were lost when you found him.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
Yet when he found me, yes, yes, and said my name,
that was it. He had such a presence, there are
the words. He had such beyond even a presence. He
had just a pure light that allowed to come out
of him, that he shared with whoever he was talking to,

(01:37:35):
whoever he was with. And that light healed the leprosy,
That light healed the blind and the death and those
that could not walk.

Speaker 1 (01:37:45):
At what point in the journey did you start to
come into your own as a master, as a teacher.

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
It was after he passed.

Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
Interesting. So as as something that I've come across in
my studies of story enough myth is that there is
always a mentor in your life, generally in one way
shape of parents Frands. There's always a mentor. But there
is a moment in our life when that mentor leaves.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
Yes, and he left in a very dramatic, horrible, horrific way.

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
Yes, but then that's when we start yes to go.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
Well, I had to find the courage. I had to
either stay there or I would have been crucified, myself
probably hung upside down. And I had to keep this
ministry going. I had to keep what was so pure,
and so I fled and I landed in Marie Day
la mayor in the south of France, and I had

(01:38:42):
my child, Sarah Tamar, and she also was a very profound,
prolific teacher.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
And to clarify, these are yes.

Speaker 2 (01:38:51):
Yes, they are yeah. And I had to find the courage.
And this is the biggest message I have for everybody
today is that no matter what you're going through, you
always can find the courage and the bravery. Because even
though I had to flee, and I had to literally

(01:39:13):
hide in a grotto in different parts of France, and
I would come down because I knew that I couldn't
keep what I knew to myself. I wrote, I'm a writer,
I was a writer, I'm now embodied through a writer.
But I would write those stories and those scriptures, and

(01:39:35):
when they were found, they were burned, they were buried,
they were taken, and now they're finding as truth must
come up, they're finding more and more scriptures that even
to this day, there's a an eighty page scripture that's
being translated currently that you wrote.

Speaker 1 (01:39:56):
Yeah, we'll be right back after word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show. Now, I do want
to just touch upon when Yesha's life ended, because you
had children with him. What was the crucifixion in reality?

(01:40:20):
Was it a physical death, was it a spiritual death?
What was it all at once? Did you continue with
him after? Was there anything like that? Can you explain?

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
Yes? So I did see him, and that's the beauty
is that we never lose anyone or anything because the
energy of it. And so he came to me and
showed himself, and from him from the other side was
still guiding me. And that's why I did have that bravery,

(01:40:50):
because I knew that there was something greater than me
still guiding me, and so he would help me through
and write through those scriptures. And so even though I
was in a grotto, he was there, His presence was
there with me.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
To my understanding, and please correct me if I'm wrong.
In es Jeshua's life, he wasn't very well known other
than in the areas that he was. Indeed, even there's
i think one sentence in the Roman scripture the scriptures
are in antiquity that said that there was a guy
named Jesus who was crucified. He was just one of

(01:41:28):
you know, many of that were crucified and killed and
by the Roman Empire, so he wasn't really well known.
He wasn't really famous, if you will. It was the
work that you and the apostles that and it took
hundreds of years to get this to spread out, is
that correct?

Speaker 2 (01:41:48):
And it was part of not just the Christians bought
the Cathars. Again that here's where the suppression came. About
seven hundred years years ago, one of the popes and
the king of France started having genocide for these groups
of Cathars and in different parts of Italy and in Spain.

(01:42:12):
At Montague, which is one of the places that Christy
went to, this is one of the largest groups where
they were given an ultimatum either you joined the Catholic Church,
which is very Yeshua alike, or you will die, you
will be. We will put a ring of fire, and

(01:42:32):
you walk into your own fire. And all of them
did except for two. That we're able to escape and
keep the Book of Love, the true teachings of Jesus.
Because here's the thing. He wouldn't have allowed women to
follow him, because during that time, you said it, women

(01:42:53):
weren't allowed. They didn't have any rights. Sarah Tamar was
a black woman, and so that was also wasn't allowed
back in that time. So Jesus loved everyone and felt
everyone deserved love, not conditional love, total unconditional love. He

(01:43:13):
loved everybody. He loved his disciples. He had a zagot
in his in his zealot in his in his group,
you know that were of opposition to the Jews and
the Romans and and different parts. He had, Oh whatever,
we're losing the I'm losing the word those that weren't

(01:43:35):
not Jewish, right, he'd loved them all as the Father
loves us all. And that was his He was there
to teach the truth, not the limitations and the and
the words that got messed up, and the manipulation and
the control. He loves us all.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
It's fascinating that when I was at the Vatican, I
looked around him like, this has nothing to do with Jesus,
has nothing to do with it. Yeshua nothing. He didn't
want any of this. No, he didn't want to just
like Christmas. Well, well, yeah, that's Santa Claus. But that's
a whole other conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
Uh, you had showed Christie, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:44:18):
Yes, yes, a beautiful video with Date Bargazzi. What does
what does Yeshua think about? If you don't mind me
asking you, what do you what does he think about
what has been done in his name over the last
two thousand years?

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
Well, if he was here alive, he'd be pissed if
he came in, if he if he was a human
being in this experience. But from the place that he is,
it's there's.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
Just no anger.

Speaker 2 (01:44:50):
There's no anger.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
No, no, of course, it's just part of the process. Yeah,
it's just.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
It's part of evolvement. You give human beings their own
free will, and you get a group of human beings
together that are for something and opposing something else. It
doesn't matter if it's Democrat Republican, it doesn't matter if
it's abortion or gun control. You get groups together that
have a deep belief. Then they want to manipulate and

(01:45:14):
control the other side so they get their way. Because
from the human perspective, if you don't understand something, you
fear it, and you want to then change it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:25):
What do you have to say? This will be my
last question. What do you have to say to people?
A message to people now going through what we're going
through in life right now and this time period of
human consciousness and to the feminine out there, and not

(01:45:46):
the only the feminine, but the people who are disempowered,
who don't believe that they have the power within themselves,
that they need to give their power away. And there's
always someone to take that bottle. Oh yes, always somebody
takes it. So what message do you have for them there?

Speaker 2 (01:46:02):
Compassion? Just compassion? Is that way back to yourself because
your soul is full of compassion or every single human
that is embodied. You're not there alone sometimes it feels
like you are, even in your greatest despair, but you're
embodied with a soul. Your soul needs a human, and
the human needs the soul. And if the human is

(01:46:24):
out left feeling and having the perspective that they're by
themselves and there's nothing there for them. Of course, they're
going to reach for something or someone, whether it's vices
or another human or the church, or someone that has
power that they don't have. And bringing compassion to yourself
starts to anoint you with your soul so that you

(01:46:46):
can start to feel the wisdom and the love and
the strength and have that faith for your soul, which
is they're guiding you. The human may not know everything,
but the soul does, beautifully.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
Said Mary, thank you so much for being here. I
look forward to our next conversation, and I will do
everything in my power to help spread the word about
you and the truth about you and your work.

Speaker 2 (01:47:11):
So thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:47:20):
How are you doing.

Speaker 2 (01:47:21):
I'm good. I took a nice nap, but I miss
I'm gonna have to watch the show see what I missed.
Because of course I don't know you all. I know
you know this, but out of your audience. When I'm out,
I'm fully out, so you don't remember any of it. No,
I don't have anything for you. If you were to
say something. It's like that, like you know when you oh, yeah,

(01:47:43):
I remember a dream, like I remember part of a dream. Okay,
you know there's that. But unless you yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:47:51):
It won't come out.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:47:52):
Well, it was a beautiful, beautiful session. The council was
wonderful as always, the healing was very beautiful, and then Mary,
Mary and I had a very candid conversation about everything.
So it was it was beautiful. It was really beautiful.
It was a beautiful, beautiful conversation. I'm gonna ask you
those questions I ask all my guests. There might be

(01:48:14):
a few new ones in there for you. Okay, what
is your definition of living a fulfilled life? Connection?

Speaker 2 (01:48:21):
You know, that moment of just connection with my with
my soul, just just feeling that there's something here to
support me and I bring that energy into whether it's
parenting or my partnership or my business clients.

Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
If you had a chance to go back in time
and speak to little Christy, what advice would you give her?

Speaker 2 (01:48:40):
It all turns out Okay, relax right, it's like life
is good, you know, enjoy the moments.

Speaker 1 (01:48:47):
Now, what advice would little Christy give you today?

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
Play more?

Speaker 1 (01:48:52):
That's pretty much. Yeah, that's very How do you define
God or source?

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
It's just every everything that feels good, good emotions, thoughts,
you know, connection, that's God, that's God's presence, That's all
of it.

Speaker 1 (01:49:08):
Yeah, what is love?

Speaker 2 (01:49:10):
Love is a frequency, It's an energy, It's it's the
highest vibration. It's created. It's the creative manifestation ray of
vibration that we have. Love is the connector love, his healing.
Love is it all. Love is God. God is Love.

Speaker 1 (01:49:27):
If you could ask God one question, what would it be?

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
Why? Mean No?

Speaker 1 (01:49:33):
I mean seriously, no, seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
If I could ask God one question, what could.

Speaker 1 (01:49:41):
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
To help support a greater shift in this planet?

Speaker 1 (01:49:49):
And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
To be pleasure, to enjoy, to be present, to connect
to love?

Speaker 1 (01:49:57):
And where can people find out about more about you?
Your new book, The Flow Fact and everything that you do.

Speaker 2 (01:50:01):
So you can go to The Flow Factor book dot com.
It's at every bookstore. Go to Watch your Words dot com.
It's a great place to continue with my work and
to help you shift because words start the creation. So
watch your words dot com. Also, Christy Whitman dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:50:18):
All that good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:50:19):
All that good stuff. Google me as I say, Google me.

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
And do you have any party messages for the audience?

Speaker 2 (01:50:26):
Yes, you know we are human, right and we have
human tendencies and those moments that we have, those human
tendencies that don't feel good. Give yourself compassion for those
moments instead of beating yourself up, instead of criticizing and
judging yourself. If you could find compassion instead of judgment,

(01:50:47):
life looks very, very different.

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
We are our worst enemy. It really is true. We
beat the hell of ourselves, Chrissy, it's always a pleasure
talking do you. Thank you so much for coming on
the show again and introducing us to Mary. Such a
beautiful conversation. I appreciate you and everything you're doing to
waken the planet, So thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
Alex.

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
I'd like to thank Christy so much for coming on
the show and sharing her knowledge and wisdom with all
of us. If you want to get links to anything
we spoke about in this episode, head over to the
show notes at next levelsoul dot com Forward slash six
two three. Now. If this conversation stirred something in you,
there's more waiting. You can listen to this episode completely
commercial free on Next level Soul TV's app where Soul

(01:51:28):
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Begin your awakening at next Levelsoul dot TV, thank you
so much for listening. As I always say, trust the journey.
It's there to teach you. I'll see you next time.

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