NLS 627: Top Astrologer REVEALS COSMIC SHIFT! Humanity's KARMIC CYCLE Is Ending in Renewal with Heather Ensworth

Heather Ensworth discusses the concept of karmic cycles and humanity's current transition from the Kali Yuga to the Para Yuga, emphasizing the importance of higher consciousness. She explains the Yuga cycles, particularly the 24,000-year processional cycle, and its connection to the binary star Sirius.

Heather highlights the potential for cataclysms around 2032-2036 if humanity fails to evolve. She stresses the need for collective healing and transformation, advocating for a shift from technological dependence to higher consciousness. Heather also touches on the role of artists in shaping societal awareness and the potential for rapid evolution by 2032.

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podcast are those of the guests and do not necessarily
reflect the views or positions of this show, its host,
or any of the companies they represent. Now today on
the show, we welcome astrologer Heather Endsworth, and we talk
about not only astrology, but the karmic cycles of humanity's consciousness,
humanity's future, and much much more. Let's dive in. I

(01:51):
like to welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Heather ends with, Hey, dude, Heather, great, great to be here.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Thank you so much for coming on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I'm really looking forward to our conversation because it's a
different angle on what's happening in the world, and we're
going to kind of go deep, deep, deep down that
rabbit hole about it. But can you tell a little bit?
Can you tell people a little bit about who you
are and what got you into what you're doing today.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
So I started out actually with an interest in cultural anthropology,
which really ties into why I'm so interested in the
UCA cycle, and then I became a psychologist, was a
psychologist for many years, and then had a really profound
spiritual experience that led me to leave all of that
and just to begin to explore other ways of healing

(02:42):
ancient wisdom. It led me into exploring astrology, and then
once I was exposed to astrology, I couldn't turn back.
So I just have been diving deeper and deeper into
that and really interested in particular in these larger cycles
of our human history and the evolution of our consciousness

(03:04):
as humanity, and why this is such a critical time
that we're in now.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Heather.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
I love that you say these larger cycles, because I've
been saying this on the show a lot. Is that
you know, life is cyclical. Everything is cyclical. The universe
is cyclical. It just constantly is going, you know, up
and down, and you know, and we'll dive into the
Yuga cycles in a minute. But according to those cycles,
you know, we are on an upswing, going towards enlightenment,

(03:33):
going towards higher consciousness. But there is a moment when,
in that moment's nowhere in any of our lifetimes, when
we will start to go back the other way and
go back down towards the dark ages if the cycle continues,
but we'll jump into can we jump off the cycle
or not as a as a species in a minute,

(03:54):
But can you tell everybody who doesn't know what the
Yuga cycles are? What are the Yugas cycles? And what
are these larger cycles that we are dealing with as
a as a species.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
So the Yuga cycle is the same as the processional cycle.
It's this twenty four thousand year cycle where we go
through these different astrological ages. And what's interesting is ancient
cultures dating back twelve thousand years ago knew about these cycles.
And you can track them by looking at what stars

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are rising before sunrise at the time of spring equinox
here in the northern hemisphere or the autumn equinox and
the southern hemisphere, and you'll see that from our earth perspective,
the sky seems to shift one degree every seventy two years,
such that over about a two thousand year period, the

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constellation rising before sunrise in the spring equinox will shift.
So we're transitioning now out of of the Age of
Pisces into the Age of Aquarius. But this twenty four
thousand year cycle I believe is related to our being
in orbit with a binary star, and I think that

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binary star is the brightest star in our sky, Serious,
which has been honored in ancient cultures for thousands of years.
So we're in this cycle of orbiting with this star.
And part of what I wonder is if as we
come closer to Sirius we increase in consciousness. As we

(05:38):
get further from our binary star, we begin to go
into that forgetting and descending cycle of consciousness.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Heather, let me stop it for a second, because I've
heard this concept before, but I never heard it with Sirius.
I heard that as we get closer to the center
of the universe, we become more conscious. As we start
pulling away from the center of the universe with these cycles,
we start to forget more. But I never heard it
being mentioned as serious, because Serious is just a star

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like any other obviously different star a little bit has
a little bit more sass tour than other stars. Let's
just say, very powerful star, very powerful star. But there
are millions of not billions, of other powerful stars out there,
So this star is some something very specific to us.
Can you explain to me what is a band? Do

(06:31):
you say binary? You know what does the binary star
mean as far as like why our consciousness grow because
we're getting closer to this star and vice versa.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
So Walter Cruttenton is the one that has talked about
how eighty percent of the stars in our galaxy are
binary stars. So it's highly likely that our sun is
a binary star in a relationship with another star. There's
a lot of controversy over what that might be, but
I strongly believe it's serious and part of what's interesting

(07:08):
to think about if we think about the fact that
our sun is a binary star, it means that we
develop in the context of relationship. Instead of thinking of
our son as the solar hero in the middle of
the Solar system operating in isolation, we're developing and evolving

(07:29):
in relationship with this other star that I think the
connection with serious. Also, where we are moving through the galaxy,
as you said, has a significant impact on us in
terms of galactic energies coming to us that activate the
pineal gland activate increases in consciousness. So I think it's

(07:53):
a combination of factors that are at play, but it
really shows that we move through through these cycles that
impact our evolution of consciousness and what's really significant is
about every twelve thousand years we go through the galactic
current sheet, which we're moving through now, which is a

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part of what activates increase solar energies. We're getting more
galactic cosmic energies that activate shifts in consciousness. But it
also is a time where his history would show that
every twelve thousand years, at the midpoint of the processional
cycle and the ending of one beginning of a new

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one where we are now, we also face times of
major potential cataclysmic reset. So we're in that critical time
of change on the planet right now, both in terms
of our consciousness and in terms of what can unfold

(08:59):
for us historically.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
So when you say cataclysms, I get. I get that.
With the Younger Dryest and and these other that was
the last that was the last time, correct, was the
younger Dryest period, which was right around when Atlantis was happening.
According to play though and the and and the funny
how things work out, So I get that. And from
what I understand, the Younger dryas was created by an

(09:25):
immense amount of water that was released because something I
think there might have been an asteroid that hit the
ice sheet and flash melted an obscene amount of water
and then just changed the landscape of the entire planet.
Hence the flood myths that is in every culture around
the world.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Is this from what you're seeing.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Are we expected to do something that radical to our
actual environment or is it a massive shift within our
own consciousness or is it a slight bit of both.
Now as extreme as a younger t it's hopefully, But
there is stuff happening. Can kind of see it already.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
But that's the critical issue. I mean, that's the critical
question because the Vedic tech's other ancient prophecies talk about
these times in the processional cycle, and twelve thousand years
ago it was the great flood, and as you said,
that's encoded in myths from around the world.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
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Speaker 4 (10:31):
The Vedic texts talk about this time is potentially a
cataclysm of fire, which would be potentially comet activity that
triggers massive fires and a cataclysm on the planet. I
believe that as we're at this critical point of moving

(10:53):
into the ascending cycle of the Yuga cycle, the time
of ascending consciousness, I believe that we have the capacity
to make an evolutionary leap and stop going through this
cycle of ascending and descending consciousness, in which case I
think we won't have to go through that cataclysmic reset.

(11:17):
But I think part of why these cataclysmic resets happen,
if you think about everything, is arising out of consciousness.
We live in the sea of cosmic consciousness. I think
when we as humanity get too far out of balance,
too caught in our sense of ego or sense of separation,

(11:40):
too disconnected from the harmony of the cosmos, then the
cosmos helps us reset, heal, awaken, come back into balance.
But I think if we have this opportunity now to
remember who we are and move into higher consciousness, we

(12:03):
don't have to keep going through that cycle.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
So when you're saying reset, is that we are still
in the We still have the ability to not have
to deal with a fiery cataclysm or a watery cataclysm
if we want to, or is that just in the
books and how we deal with it is going to
be how we deal with it? Can you kind of
explain that a little.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Bit if you look at the cycle and the fact
that part of Bipoo dev Mesra has done some amazing
research on this. The part of what happens every twelve
thousand years is we go through the center of the
torrid comet swarm, which is when we're most vulnerable to
comet impacts that triggered the Great Flood twelve thousand years

(12:50):
ago could trigger a cataclysm now. And he sees that
window of greatest risk as twenty thirty two to twenty
thirty six.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
These numbers are again coming up and again and again
during during my shows because everyone's it's saying between now
and twenty thirty two is going to be a rough ride,
and then twenty thirty two to around their thirty six,
there's something going to happen. But no one's saying at
least that I understood that I've heard from my guests

(13:26):
and other research that I've done, that we're going to
have a massive reset, meaning like it's gonna be game over,
a million people are gonna be left behind, and the
world will start again. I don't see that happening, because
we are at at a level that we've never been
at before as humanity, as far as consciousness is concerned.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Is that what you're seeing, hopefully.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Not quite Alex Okay, tell me what you see.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Tell me what you see.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
So I see that you know, and so many ancient
prophecies talk about this as a potential time of crisis
on the planet. And part of what I believe is,
you know, we've exited the Caliyuga as of March of
this year, so we've come out of that time of

(14:19):
our lowest level of consciousness. And I think that we're
being guided by the energies of the cosmos, by galactic beings,
by inner Earth beings to wake up and move into
higher consciousness. And I do believe that we have that
capacity then to radically transform and not stay caught in

(14:44):
these repeating historical cycles.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
But we're also.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
Seeing on the planet right now a lot of chaos,
a lot of the shadow aspects of humanity. So I
see this period from twenty twenty five to twenty thirty
two as the karma choice point time that we as humanity,
we have free will, and we can choose to move

(15:13):
into higher consciousness and make this evolutionary leap that I
think will lead us into ascension and into radical new
ways of being as humans. But we also have the
choice to resist that, to stay caught in the patterns
of the past, in which case, I think then we're

(15:35):
likely to face a dimensional divide where those who are awakening,
moving into higher consciousness will move into a different dimensional reality,
and those who choose to stay caught in the out
of balance patterns of the past may in fact experience
that cataclysmic risa.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
So I've heard this before, where you're shifting into different
realities depending on where you are what you've chosen to do.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
So there is definitely a.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Sense of that already in the world, that there's places
in the world that is definitely stuck in the old patterns.
There's countries, there's governments, there's communities around the world that
are stuck in those old patterns, and then there's other aspects.
There's other countries, there's other communities that are above, not above,
but at a different level than that. Is that what

(16:30):
you're kind of talking about, Because like, if you're saying,
let's say country X right now, I'm not going to
pull anybody out, but Country X right now super enlightened,
renewable energy, their food is clean, their education is fantastic,
crime is very very low. They seem to be a
bit more evolved than other countries, and then there is

(16:52):
other countries that are very repressive still towards women, and
the masculine energy is very high. All that those two
places do exist in the world. The country X, I
wish country acts existed exactly the way I just presented it,
but because I would prove the country X. But but

(17:14):
there are elements of country X in a bunch of
different countries, in a bunch of different communities around the world.
Is that what you mean Because just because there's certain
areas of the world that can have to tsunamis, cataclysms, earthquakes, fires,
all these kind of things, it doesn't affect other areas
of the world. Is that what you mean by different realities?

(17:34):
Or is somebody living in that lower energy country. Let's
say there's somebody who is a higher consciousness person who
happens to live in this country because they have no
other choice at the moment. Are they going to live
the same reality as the rest of the people in
that cult?

Speaker 3 (17:51):
These are hard questions that I want to do the best.
You can't ask.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Yes, I wish I had all the answers, But really,
I mean, these are really good question because I think
this is what we're feeling and what we're facing. And
from my perspective, like you said, we're already feeling these
different dimensional realities playing out on the planet. I don't
see it so much as different countries so much as

(18:15):
you really see these different levels of consciousness in the collective,
where you have some people who are just awakening and
moving through their healing process rapidly and opening to new
ways of being in higher consciousness, and then you have

(18:36):
people that are really caught in the patterns of the
past and disconnection, destruction, violence, lashing out. So I think
we're seeing those different dimensional dimensional realities already playing out.
But my sense is we're being called in the Peruvian

(18:59):
Shamans that I trained with talk about how we're meant
to become homoluminous ones, beings of light. I think we're
meant to move into this fifth dimensional reality where we
come from the heart and we are living in another
level of consciousness, another dimensional reality that will be different

(19:21):
than the third dimensional reality that we're in right now.
So what I see is the potential in that period
twenty thirty two to twenty thirty six, is that if
we don't collectively make the transition and transformation. Then we
may see a movement of some into a fifth dimensional

(19:43):
new Earth while the third dimensional Earth goes through its
cycle of reset.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Ye. And when I said countries, it's because I was
recently on vacation and I was in different areas of
the world, and you know, I'm sitting there and I'm like,
in this area where all the people are, and I'm
like this, I kept saying to my web, this is
a parallel reality. Like we are literally in a parallel reality,
right And it's parallel because right now in Austin, this

(20:11):
is you know, Austin life is happening in New York.
New York life is happening in La LA's life, and
bang and Bangja and Bengjing is the same thing. So
where I was in these little towns, in these different countries,
we would just be we'd be kind of an awd
of like, oh, this is a completely different reality of

(20:32):
food and of people and of consciousness, and you know,
it was just completely different, and what was happening there
was not really.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Being affected by what was happening in Austin.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
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and now back to the show. So in Austin, my
life could be very, very different than it was when
I was in another country or another town.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
It's would you agree to that? Like that?

Speaker 1 (21:07):
There? It's literally we have parallel realities everywhere. That's where
is we vacation in a parallel reality like a paradise.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
We're like, should we move here?

Speaker 1 (21:18):
This is really well, there's nothing to do, but it's
really cool to just chill, you know, but there. But
you know, people in Hawaii right now are surfing, you know,
and eating pineapples and doing everything they do in Hawaii
and New York is a completely different vibe right now.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
But it's a parallel reality.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Very true.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
And as you were saying before, I mean there are
parts of the world right now that are mired in
war and trump suffering and hunger. So yes, we're we're
seeing just the spectrum of realities playing out on the
planet right now.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
And I've noticed too that there is there is a
kind of call of certain areas of the world where
people who are going to a higher level of consciousness
are being drawn to, and they move away from the
big cities and maybe they go into a more rurals there,
or maybe they move like from the US maybe they

(22:19):
move to Europe, or maybe they move to Asia and
they find different They're just being drawn to different areas.
Where I've been in New Yorker for all my life,
but you know what, this isn't feeling it for me anymore.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
I gotta go.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
I gotta go to Austin, or I gotta go to Hawaii,
or I gotta go to Spain because I feel that's
where I need to be, because that's the energy that
I'm being drawn to. Is that something you're seeing as well?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Oh? Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
And there are some cities and towns that are they
call themselves transition towns that are very consciously moving into
new paradigms, creating new forms of economy, living more in
connection with the earth, have stronger environmental concerns, and creating

(23:04):
communities that are collaborative and creative and functioning from higher consciousness.
So yes, I think more and more people are making
moves to be someplace where they can be in community
with others who are trying to move into new paradigms.
And then there are towns that are very consciously working.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
That, you know what, I find fascinating as well. On
the subject of kind of a decision that consciously that
we're all making as a group. In Europe, they made
a decision a long time ago that food was going
to be first and foremost for the health of the populace,
not a profit first scenario. That was it good, bad,

(23:51):
indifferent their food. They just wouldn't allow certain things to
be in their food system. That was a conscious choice
by a very large group of humans. And then in
the US, profit first was the way everyone went. So
that's why you have all these chemicals and preservatives and

(24:12):
corn syrup and all this other and GMOs and all
this other crap that's in our food system. That's why
you could eat bread in Europe and not have a
problem by the way I did. And it's delicious. But
but I'm noticing here now people are going, wait a minute,
why does my Coca Cola have corn syrup in it?

(24:34):
And Mexico has sugar, and Canada has real sugar, and
Europe has real sugar. It's the same company. Why are
you giving us the crap because you're making a few
more sense off of every bottle or every can. And
now that's starting to change. I mean, I've been seeing
videos of people taking I won't say the name of
the cookie. But it's a cookie with a little cream filling.

(24:55):
It's a little sandwich. And they're putting a blow you
know what. They put a blow torch to it to
see what would happen, and they would hold it for
five seconds, ten seconds, up to a minute or two
minutes with a blow torch, and it wouldn't break down
because of all the chemicals in it. And I was

(25:16):
just like, so there's a lot of that coming up
where that never was even a conversation. You would just
it's just no one cared. But now people are starting
to care more. And the consciousness around just that one
area of food is shifting. The consciousness around religion is shifting,
the consciousness around education is shifting, around media shifting.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Everything seems to be shifting.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
And I'm using those two large areas, Europe and America
as a reference point. Europe doesn't have it all figured out,
trust me, and neither do we, but in different areas
they have it more figured out than us. And we
have things a little bit more figured out than they
do in certain areas.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
But I'm seeing that. Does that make sense.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
To you totally? I do think as we're coming out
of the Calli Yuko, seeing more clearly how out of
balance we've been in so many areas. So I do
think there are shifts that are starting to happen, but
I think part of what we're looking at is I
don't see the bigger shifts coming from our existing political systems.

(26:20):
So even though we're seeing some of those ways in
which people are more conscious and are pushing for changes
in corporations or in laws, I think as we move
into the Age of Aquarius, it's going to be more
of a grassroots change where people in community will be

(26:43):
collaborating together to create new dynamics in community and new
ways of coming back into harmony with the earth, with
each other, with the life around them in new ways,
and that it will grow out of that roots process.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Well, I mean you can see it now. When there's
a disaster, whether it be the fires in La a
hurricane in South Florida, flooding in Texas, whatever it might be,
the government takes forever to move, FEMA takes forever to move.
And what I've seen personally firsthand because I lived in

(27:25):
South Florida for a long time and dealt with a
lot of hurricanes, is that community everyone just rallies very
very quickly and starts helping each other, helping your neighbor.
It's beautiful. It's really beautiful to see. It's sad that
it takes a disaster to make that happen. But all
the things that happened in La earlier this year with
the fires, obviously government did not have that handled. I

(27:50):
mean just the basic fire department didn't have water, for
God's sakes. So the rest of the rest of the
community started, the rest of the city started to create
you know, community and helping and systems, and they started
doing that here in Austin or in Texas. One of
the reasons. We have a supermarket chain it's very famous

(28:12):
here called AGB, and AGB is has such goodwill with
the people that they trust AHB more than they do
the local government because when the fit hits the shan
as they say, they are the ones getting out water,
getting out the supplies to people. And it's not profit first,

(28:33):
it's help the community first. These are our people, these
are our customers. Let's help them. So it goes, it
goes far beyond the political system, because I agree with you,
the political system is absolutely around the world is but
it's starting to crack. You're starting to see major cracks.

(28:53):
I think the first major crack that we saw here
in the States was when Nixon got and that was
the first time they're like, oh, wait a minute, what
there's our government is not.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Looking out for us. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Seems so naive now, But then it's been cracking ever since.
But recently it's been really fractured and it's not working,
and there's going to be some sort of demand from
the people in the near future. They say, we need
to change this system because it's just not working for
us anymore, just like they're changing the food system. The

(29:30):
media is like, this is a change in the media,
you know, having these kind of open communicate, open conversations publicly,
two hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions of
people who get to watch this kind of stuff, where
before you and I would have never seen the air.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
That's all very true, and I think that these shifts
that were being called into it can be an evolutionary
leap as opposed to incremental change. And you're right, the
systems as they are are falling apart. We're seeing how
dysfunctional are political systems, medical systems, educational systems, all of

(30:12):
our systems are and the movement is and the paradigms
we're being called into are about moving out of profit first,
power over control paradigms into creativity, collaboration.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Harmony, balance.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
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Speaker 4 (30:43):
But I think and my dear friend Elizabeth Sataurus, who
is an evolution biologist, talked about when a species hits
a crisis point, it's the time where you can actually
make an evolutionary leap into a whole new way of being.
And I think that's where we as humanity are that

(31:04):
it won't be incremental change gradual shifts over periods of
years or generations. We have this opportunity, I think, in
the next seven years to make a radical evolutionary shift.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Do you what's your take on the the consciousness karma,
humanity's karma that we are dealing with and is this
a time for karmic karma change or dealing with the
karma that we have as a specie has dealt with.
I got to believe that humanity has a bit of
a karmic bill to pay from being on the planet

(31:43):
but is there according to the Yugos or according to
any of the astrology, that karmically is something that we're
kind of coming to grips with.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
I really see this, you know, And this is where
it's interesting being a psychologist as well as an astrologer.
You know, if if you've experienced trauma in your lifetime,
to really move into wholeness, you have to bring that
into consciousness, heal that, clear that take responsibility for how

(32:15):
it's impacted your life, the patterns you've gotten caught into
in order to make significant change. And I think we
as humanity are needing to reflect on how out of
balance we've become in this time of the call of Yuga,
the past five to six thousand years. It's getting caught

(32:35):
and the patriarchal paradigms is the aberration in the Yuga cycle,
in the processional cycle. It only happens in the time
of the Caliyuga that we get caught in these power
over paradigms that are about control and competition and conflict.
So I think as humanity we're remembering, we're beginning to

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see the trauma that has resulted from that and the
suffering and the level of destruction and disconnection, and we're
being called to heal. We can't move into higher consciousness
if we don't heal and clear these patterns from the past,
Otherwise they keep controlling us and we keep playing them out.

(33:23):
In that sense, we're radically called into consciousness, awakening, healing
in order to move into higher consciousness.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
What is the name of the next cycle in the
Yuga cycles?

Speaker 1 (33:35):
And how long is it?

Speaker 4 (33:37):
So if you're going through the cycle as it's played
out over and over again, we're coming out of the
Collie you got, into the Dupara, you got the Dupoia
lasts three thousand years. Then we go into the Tretta,
then we go into the Sadya, the Golden Age. So

(33:58):
it's this time of gradual, increasing, ascending consciousness and then
starting twelve thousand years ago in the Age of Leo,
we started in the Treta Yuga Silver Age in the
Greek version of it, and then continue to go into
descending consciousness.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Is the peak of the low? Was that the Dark Ages?

Speaker 4 (34:21):
The peak of the low was really at the midpoint
of the Age of Aries, which was about one thousand BC.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
One thousand BC.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, so that was the peak but then the Dark
Ages seemed a little bit darker than that, but that
didn't it.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Well, the whole call of yoga is the time of darkness,
of forgetting, of being caught in this shadow aspect of humanity.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
And it doesn't have to be gradual, it can. It
can kind of go and then go lower and then
come back up a little bit and during that time.
So that's how because the Dark Ages is hence the
name Dark Ages. Nothing happened for hundreds of years until
the Renaissance kicked in, and then all of a sudden
we started to grow. And can you explain to me

(35:07):
from the Yugas, from the astrological and the Yugas perspective
and the Vedic text perspective, why is it that we
in the last one hundred and fifty years have evolved
more I think consciously and technologically so rapidly more than

(35:28):
we have in the last five thousand years. Like it's
it's this insane amount of change. Like when my grandfather
was born, there were no planes, and then when he
died there was internet, you know, and I mean everything
else he saw during his lifetime, you know, going onto

(35:48):
the moon, all this.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
So it was like, it's such a massive speed up
of growth, and now every day seems like there's something
new coming out. It's growing so exponentially faster than it did.
Even when I was a younger man in the seventies, eighties,
and nineties, it grew, but it just was a lot.
Like I always say, the Internet kicked in, it took

(36:11):
us about five six years for it to really start,
you know, the technology to catch up and we to
catch up with it. And then it took a you know,
Amazon took forever to get going all that kind of stuff.
But now AI just showed up like two years ago,
and now it's everywhere, and now it's growing faster than
ever that we can even catch up with it. Literally,

(36:33):
So what part is there any kind of guidance or information?

Speaker 4 (36:38):
But the thing that I think is important to look
at is was that really about an increase in consciousness
or was that an increase in technology? See, I think
that part of the danger that we're in, and from
my perspective, the shadow aspect of the Age of Aquarius
would be an increasing idealization of technology and focusing on

(37:04):
developing more and more technology and moving in the direction
of AI and transhumanism versus part of what I think
is profound when you look at the ancient cultures, they
understood that when we access the full capacity of our consciousness,

(37:28):
it's beyond the capacity of any technology that we could develop.
That the galactic beings move through the galaxy with their consciousness.
So I think that's some of the evolutionary leap that
we're being called into now, is to remember the capacity
of our consciousness. Then, from my perspective, technology, the Internet,

(37:54):
artificial intelligence, it's like the training wheels. It's like, oh,
we have this ability to communicate with each other across
time and space. Well, when we remember the capacity of
our consciousness that we can be telepathic, we don't need
the Internet, we don't need technology. And I think that's

(38:15):
some of the critical choice point that we're in right now.
Do we get stuck in scientific materialism and an idealization
of technology, or do we remember the capacity of our consciousness.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
And when I meant the consciousness grew in one hundred
and fifty years, I do believe that one hundred and
fifty year though, our consciousness was a very different level
than it is today.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
So it has grown.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Our laws are just the way we approach things like,
you know, women, you know, one hundred and fifty years ago,
women not treated superly, not really well, slavery, all that
kind of stuff. So there has been some slow but
has been some raising of consciousness up until now where
we're like, hey, you can't just shoot somebody in the

(38:58):
street because you don't want to. Are there things that
happen like that? Yeah, but it's not. It doesn't happen
every ten minutes like it did in the West, you know,
you know things. So there are certain things that have elevated.
And that's what I meant by our consciousness.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Yeah, I think that's true. And I also think and
this is part of what's unsettling to see in the
world right now. I also think since we've been exiting
the Caliyuga in this period of time transitioning, we're also
seeing a backlash. We're seeing more authoritarian governments, We're seeing

(39:31):
some regressive tendencies towards more prejudice, racism, sexism, imbalance power
over so we're we're again we're seeing that full spectrum.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
But now there is a force against it. Though in
the past the voices against it were very small and quiet,
if at all, because it would be snuffed out, where
today the voices of the opposition is much larger. In Rome,
you couldn't say anything. We'll be right back after a
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(40:14):
You know, Julius would have just, you know, to the
to the lions you go kind of thing, where now
there is an opposition. But I do believe that I
agree with everything you're saying that. I agree that all
of those those things are happening. But it's the it's
the death rattle that they're trying to hold on to,
like it's literally the last grip that they're trying to

(40:36):
hold on to. I see it in in organized religion especially,
you know, these larger organizations that I used to be
one of them, recovering catholic I like, I like the joke,
but you could see just using the Vatican as an example,
the Vatican before was all powerful, not no one questioned it.
Now everyone questions it, and its power is waning comparatively

(40:58):
to where it was when I was born or when
you were born. You know, it is definitely changed. But
there's these last bit of no, no, I don't want
to let go. It's that energy just does not want
to go. And also do you do you believe that
all of this has to come up for us to
finally deal with it. All have to bring the shadow
into the light, because the only thing that defeats the

(41:18):
shadow is light. You have to deal with it. You
cannot hide it, and it's been hidden underneath. Like I always,
I always use the analogy of the aquarium, when you've
ever had an aquarium fish, the water looks clear, but
all the crap, all the soot is at the bottom,
and the second you pour some water in, all of

(41:41):
it just comes up. So that consciousness is the water
being poured in, and all the darkness comes up, and
now we have to kind of deal with it and
clean it out in order us for us to move on.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Does that make sense totally?

Speaker 4 (41:54):
I agree with both of what you're saying that it's
the death rattle, it's the final clinging to those old paradigms,
and some are resisting letting go of those old patterns.
But I also fully agree with you that it's like
it's a time of purging. It's almost like some of

(42:14):
the intensity of what's been playing out on the planet
is now right in our faces, you know, I think
as Urinus moved into Gemini, it was calling us into
scene more clearly. What's been hidden that needs to heal,
that needs to clear because we do have to face

(42:35):
those out of balance patterns and clear them in order
to move into higher consciousness. We can't just do a
spiritual bypass and override it. We have to see the trauma,
the imbalance, clear it, heal it to move into higher consciousness.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Now, let's go into the ancient myths a little bit.
There's a myth of Inana. If I'm not mistaken, how
does that myth? And if you can tell us a
little bit about that myth, where it comes from, what
culture created it, How is it guiding us around reclaiming
our sacred balance to start to remember more of who

(43:16):
we truly are.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah, I love the ancient myths.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Oh well, the myth of Anana is extraordinary in that
it's all about the Venus cycle, and I really believe
it's describing the cycle of Venus from being an evening
star into her disappearance in her inferior conjunction between the

(43:40):
Earth and the Sun, to then re emerge as a
morning star. But it's also an incredible description of how
we can go through this journey of transformation. The story
is also about Anana's trying to recover a lost relationship
with her sister who's been repressed and pushed into the underworld.

(44:04):
But I think at a deeper level, archetypally, it's about
Anana's journey of realizing she's out of balance and needs
to reclaim lost parts of herself to go through a death, rebirth,
a transformational process to emerge in a new way. So
I think it's very much about our own cycle of

(44:27):
healing and transformation. But I think an even more powerful
myth about the processional cycle is the story of Isis
and Osiris. And Isis has always been seen as the
star Sirius, and Osiris seen as the constellation Orion, which

(44:52):
I think the constellation Orion powerfully symbolizes our journey of
shifts and consciousness through the processional cycle. Orian literally changes
in its declination, and twelve thousand years ago was low
on the horizon and now is at its highest point

(45:12):
in the sky, So it literally is charting these shifts
that were in But it's also a myth about Osiris
and his brother set getting caught in this conflict power struggle,
Osiris ends up getting killed. Isis revives him, brings him

(45:37):
back into his life, into wholeness for him, only to
get torn apart again by his brother. And so I
think it's a powerful story about these cycles and how
Osiris was living in this higher consciousness gets caught in
chaos with his brother who's caught up in a power struggle,

(46:00):
and ends up killing him. And that is the pattern
we get caught in in our lower levels of consciousness.
And Isis Serious comes in to revive us, heal us,
restore us to start again. But again, I think that
story is showing us if we move into higher consciousness,

(46:23):
remember who we are, reclaim that we don't have to
keep doing.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
This to ourselves.

Speaker 4 (46:31):
We can, I think, make an evolutionary leap to step
out of going through that cycle of ascending and descending consciousness.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Are we Are we the reality show of the universe?

Speaker 2 (46:46):
I think we are.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
I mean currently, definitely currently. I mean people, I have
to believe there's somewhere there's a TV set like, let's
see what the humans are up to now?

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Oh wow, this is oh this is good stuff because
there's nothing but drama.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
This is planet drama in.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
A profound way. We are playing out this journey of
what it means to forget who you are and come
back into remembrance, come back into balance. And this is
such a critical choice point for us, and I think
it's affecting the galaxy. I do think that other galactic
beings are very invested in how we work this through

(47:28):
and are trying to support us. But we have free will,
and it will be up to us the choice that
we make.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
I think we've said this a few times in our conversation,
the remembering of who we are. It's such a powerful,
powerful idea because the more that we you know, again,
I have a very unique perspective on this because of
the amount of people I talk to from different walks
of life, and you know, I don't think there's a

(47:55):
lot of other human beings that have this kind of
access to amazing people like your self, that we have
these deep conversations. I mean weekly, I have these conversations.
So I'm seeing patterns arise from these different walks of life.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
And one thing I.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Keep seeing is that ideas started to seeds were starting
to flourish, and I think the sixties is when it
really started. The sixties started these seeds, and then they
started to flourish more in the nineties, and now they're
flourishing again, and this time period, we're just the idea
of a near death experience. Near death experiences have been

(48:31):
around since the beginning of time. We've just we've gotten
a lot better of reviving people, so there's more near
death experiences than there were before. But the concepts that
near death experiences tell me about interconnectiveness, about unders having
complete understanding of the universe. Instantly you have a question

(48:52):
that's already answered. By the time you finish answering the question,
asking the question, you just understand it and you just
it's a knowing. It's not knowledge a knowing, which is
so different the interconnectiveness, the being able to speak with
anybody at any time instantly if you want to be somewhere,
you just are These systems that we're building on Earth,

(49:12):
they're just they're just basically popsicle sticks and glue versions
of what we're able to do in our real life
as opposed to what we're doing down here. So the
Internet is a perfect example of being able to communicate
with the world, but it's very rudimentary comparatively to higher consciousness.

(49:35):
The Yogis have taught us this, the ascended masters and
the masters, the walking masters have taught us this kind
of stuff.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Would you agree with that totally?

Speaker 4 (49:43):
I totally agree with that and that yes, and perhaps
we've gone through this cycle to experience being in density,
to experience forgetting, to experience that sense of being separated
from source, to remember who we are, come back into
balance and have more appreciation for this capacity that we

(50:07):
have when we reclaim our consciousness.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
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Speaker 4 (50:22):
There's I think there's something we're learning and a way
we're transforming in this journey.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
But I totally agree with you that.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
Near death experiencers and others who are glimpsing the capacity
of what it means to be not bound in time
and space and not caught in this illusion of linear time,
but to be able to reclaim what we're capable of
with our consciousness.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
And that for the souls who are trying to awaken,
the world is getting better, but it's still not a
place for the awakened soul. You know, schools don't want
you to think for yourselves. Religion definitely doesn't want you
to think for yourself. Government doesn't educate. I mean, they
all have their old paradigm for the awakened soul, the

(51:15):
soul that wants to connect to its inner knowledge. It's
a little bit of a difficult right, depending on what
reality you live in in this world. Luckily we were
talking about earlier. It's easier in one place than another. Lights,
little lights being shown, flickerings of lights around the world,
even in the darkest places, who are trying to evolve.

(51:37):
And I think, and tell me what you think about this.
The more you awaken yourself, that's how you awaken others.
By your purely just your energy, not preaching, not converting,
just by being that alone will help awaken others around you,
and so on and so on.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Would you agree, beautifully, said, I mean, I often have
this image of those of us that are awakening being
these points of light creating this healing grid around the planet.
And one of the gifts for me of being able
to do astrology readings is being in conversations with people

(52:17):
from all over the world who are awakening. And I
do believe the more of us that awakening and hold
that light and love of higher consciousness. It emanates into
this morphogenic field and can shift the collective consciousness in

(52:37):
the blink of an eye if there are enough of
us that move into that energy of love and higher consciousness.
So I think that's some of what's so critical in
this period of time that we're in, because I think
the most powerful form of social activism right now is
to be moving into that higher consciousness within yourself and

(53:01):
emanating that out to everyone around you, and living from
that energy of higher consciousness and love and being in
harmony within yourself and with all that is. So I
think that's absolutely critical.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
In this time.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Do you remember I think you are of a vintage
as I that, well, remember this commercial if I could
buy the world of coke, that you.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Remember that commercial?

Speaker 1 (53:30):
We do, everybody's holding hands and hands around the world,
all that kind of stuff. I feel that we need
a new song. It's like I wish we could awaken
the world and peace in harmony, all of that, but
another version of that without it being coke, but awakening
of the gift of consciousness, the gift of knowledge, the

(53:51):
gift of understanding of who you truly are. Because if
we could do that, that really could shift the planet
very very quickly. I agree with you. We are on
the precipice of massive change. I think we are. I
can see it in the numbers that we get on
our show, which would have never happened ten fifteen years ago,

(54:12):
and other shows as well. We could see that there
is more hunger for this. People are hunting for this.
Are they are searching for this because they are they're starving,
you know, they're starving for this kind of information because
it's not in mainstream media. It's not. But you know
what I have noticed, there's two movies coming out, one

(54:35):
about the Afterlife with is it not Ryan Goslin but
another two big actors, younger actors, and it's it's a
take on the Afterlife. And then there's a movie with
Keanu Reeves and seth Rogen about angels and Keanu Reeves
an angel and he's tired of just his job is

(54:57):
essentially preventing people from dying from thing and driving.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
That's it's.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Big job. Is there something I could do a little
bit more meaningful? Because really love those phones like it's
it's but that's Those are two ideas of major studios
putting out films that are not a comic book movie
and not a rehash of something else that's a little

(55:24):
bit higher consciousness. There was moments of that during the
eighties and nineties with other films you know what, dreams
may come, even feel the dreams, ghosts.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
There were moments of that. But it's starting.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
I'm starting to see a little bit more of that
in the media because I think even Hollywood is starting
to figure out, oh, maybe they didn't want to see
another Superman. Hey, I love Superman, but you know, come on,
give us a moment.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
Absolutely, And you're a filmmaker, I think you know that.
I see often it's the artists who can offer and
glimps what's coming and see the new forms and help
seed that in the collective. So I do think filmmakers, artists, writers,
musicians are helping support that energetic shift because the more

(56:18):
we visualize it, and the more of us that hold
that energy and hold that vision, the more it will spread,
the more it will shift.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Well, I mean you can see that throughout history from
you know, from Shakespeare, but specifically from H. G. Wells
and Jules Verney. They brought in science fiction the idea
of these ideas that they were talking about in their
books that inspired generations. That's why we had a space
a space program. That's all the advances and all of

(56:48):
the idea, that's all that stuff was brought by them.
And that's the artist. You know. One of my favorite
this is a slightly bit off topic, but again going
back to artists, one of my favorite favorite films but
favorite books of all time is Charles Dickens Christmas Carol.
And it's but when I started to study the Christmas Carol,

(57:08):
I realized, I'm like, oh my god, this is a
near death experience. Wow, yes, first near death experience. Scrooge
dies has a life review of his past, of his present,
and his potential future, and then is brought back and
it's changed ever dramatically by the experience of the death,

(57:31):
you know, and it's it's fascinating. I was like, wow,
that's the first near death experience in literature that I
can think of.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Would you do you agree? Does that make sense?

Speaker 4 (57:41):
Yeah? Totally, I think that totally makes sense. But also,
you know, but again in terms of some of what's
come through with films or shows, I mean, I'm an
old Star Trek fan, and look at what it was
showing us. In terms of what we're capable of and
how we can come back in to connect with other
galactic beings if we move into you know, I think

(58:05):
in some ways Earth has been quarantined because we've gotten
so out of balance.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
But we do believe that.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
A child, we're a little bit dangerous right now, but
if we can move into higher consciousness, we can reconnect
with our galactic friends and allies.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Again.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
It's like it's like a toddler with a with a knife.
He's like, okay, okay, hey everyone, everyone just relax, I'm
out calm down. Is that a samurai sword? Okay, everyone
really relaxed. That's that's who Earth is. And I mean, obviously,
don't get me started on Star Wars with which was
the introduction of spirituality for a generation. Yes, with the

(58:48):
force and the ideas of what George put together in
that sequence. Yeah, the artists are are always in the
front line when it comes to this kind of change,
and that's why the artist are the ones to get
most of the arrows in the back throughout history, because
they pushed the envelope farther than the establishment wants. Without question,

(59:11):
So let me ask you, astrologically speaking, what do you
see for us the rest of this year. What are
the stars saying Heather about this year and the next
few Because I've heard again between thirty Yeah, twenty twenty
five and twenty thirty two is a very significant time.
But I heard twenty twenty five to twenty twenty seven

(59:32):
is is going to be the rockier of the two.
I might be mistaken. Please explain from your point of
view what you see.

Speaker 4 (59:40):
Absolutely, I think, and I think twenty twenty five is
the biggest year in terms of shifts, and we're experiencing it,
the turmoil, the rapid shifts that are happening. So from
that astrological perspective, this is a very powerful year. I mean,
we exited the Collie Yuga in March. We've had Neptune

(01:00:04):
and Saturn move into Aries. We've had Urinus move in
to Gemini. So all the outer planets have been shifting,
which they're the transformational planets, calling us into these profound
shifts in our consciousness.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
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Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
Right and February of twenty twenty six, Saturn and Neptune
will be in their exact conjunction at zero degrees of ares,
which is very profound, And I think it is about
integrating new forms of spirituality and bringing them into form.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
And I think.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
If we listen to the shifts of this year, things
can continue to stabilize and increase are moving into new
paradigms in the next few years. But this is a
critical time of change.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
It is it is. Is there any aspects of the
shadow that we need to still kind of be prepared
for that's coming, because as I don't know about you,
I don't particularly like to deal with my shadow, but
it doesn't care and comes up anyway. As I've said before,

(01:01:28):
the beach ball metaphor trying to keep the beach ball
underneath water. You can hold it down there for as
long as you like, but when you get tired, it
will pop right back and smacky in the face. And
that's the shadow. But over our entire species, in humanity
in general, what shadow aspects of the age of Aquarius
that we still have to kind of deal with.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
I think Uranus and Gemini is bringing a lot of
what's been in the shadow into the light of consciousness
and guiding us to see it, to clear it. I
also think it's interesting. We're in the year twenty twenty
five of solar maximum, so we're getting a lot of
solar energies coming to the planet, literally light infusing us,

(01:02:13):
which I think is also a part of what's pushing
the shadow into the light of consciousness and activating for
all of us individually and collectively, a way in which
we're called to see those shadow aspects of ourselves to
heal in order to shift and move into higher consciousness.

(01:02:34):
But I also think as we're at this cusp of
the Age of Aquarius, it's a choice point whether we
move into the deeper meaning of Aquarius, which is about
rebalancing the sacred masculine and the sacred feminine, coming out
of power over dynamics into collaboration, co creation, into that

(01:02:56):
increasing acceptance of diversity and compassion for each other and love,
or getting more and more caught in idealization of technology,
which is the shadow aspect of the Age of Aquarius.
And look at what's happening now with this increasing interest
in artificial intelligence and transhumanism. So I think that's the

(01:03:22):
shadow aspect of the Age of Aquarius. We need to
really face and see and see the choices that we.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Have I've heard from near death experiences. I've heard from
psychics and channelers about this the future in the regards
to where humanity is going, and one aspect of it
is there's going to be multiple camps of humans who
will decide to go one hundred percent all natural, like

(01:03:50):
we are currently doing, and then transhumanism. And we've played
around with transhumanism for the last fifty or sixty years,
with artificial hips, pacemakers, and other mechanical things implanted in
our bodies to keep us alive, to keep us going.
And there is a balance with all of that artificial
needs and so on. But what we're talking about now

(01:04:13):
with transhumanism is a whole other game. We're talking about nanotechnology.
We're talking about ais connected to your system, and as
soon as the cell is broken or you know, they
send something that clean it up or I mean, it's
it's so scienceific, like Jules Verne and HG.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
Wells would be proud of what we're talking about here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
But how much transi and obviously sci fi movies have
been talking about transhumanism forever, but how much of our
humanness human netsis is going to be lost the farther
we go down the line of transhumanism, because I do
think there's a balance. Like I said, look, if you
need an artificial hip for God's sakes, get an artificial hip.

(01:04:56):
If not, you're not going to be able to function,
and so on and so forth. There are, but there
is a point where you just go, I don't need
to have that plug in the matrix so I can
lung kung fu. Though that would be cool, but I
don't want. I don't want to be able to tap
in that way. I don't need my phone to be
in my head. I just go hello, Hello, I don't

(01:05:19):
need that. So how much are we going to lose
by going down that road? And do you agree that
that will be what the future looks like for humanity.
I don't know if on our lifetimes, but a couple
hundred years from now, could I personally can see that
that there'll be two camps, one that goes all natural
and is more closer to the earth, and the other
one that leans much more to technology and goes down

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that road.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
What do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
That's a very very significant question for this time. And
my sense is that part of what happened twelve thousand
years ago, as you said, earlier in our conversation that
was the time of the fall of Atlantis. And why
did Atlantis fall? From people that I've interacted with who
have past life memories of that time, it was because

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they got caught in technology and the power that they
could have with that technology. And it's interesting that that's
the time when we went through this cataclysmic reset on
the planet. I actually believe that if we go that path,

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then those caught in that dimensional reality of idealizing technology.
I believe the planet will go through a cataclysmic reset
to call us back into awakening and back into balance,
because I think that would be very dangerous, dangerous for
us as humanity to go too far down that path,

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and I think it's dangerous in terms of the impact
that has on our galaxy. So my sense is we
won't be allowed to go too far down that destruction
of path without being called back into balance.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Again, well, you are a treky, So resistance is futile.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
Because we would become like the borg.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Yeah, we would be the Borgs.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
It would be absolutely the Borgs. And again there's I
believe that that is in our path because it's something
that is I think needed to a certain extent technology
makes our lives a lot easier, no question, makes our
lives a lot harder and has balance issues accordingly, But
I do think that as we move forward, AI if

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used like a proper tool. A hammer is a tool.
It can kill or it could build.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
It's really up to the user. Same thing with AI.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Without hammers, we really wouldn't have gotten really far. You know,
it'd be a lot harder to build a house without
a hammer. So there's certain tools that are needed along
the way. And I think AI is just a tool
on steroids because it's so powerful, so encompassing it can be,
but used properly, I do believe that it does have

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very beneficial things that could happen for humanity with it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
I think those are valuable tools for now. But again,
if we remember what we're capable of with our consciousness.
I mean, you've traveled to different places in the world.
When I've gone to these ancient sites in Peru or
the Great Pyramid in Egypt, or go Beckley Teppe and Turkey,
we can't figure out how they built these sites. And

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I think it's because they understood the power of consciousness
to work with vibration, to work with light and sound,
So we have that capacity to really move into that
higher consciousness and no longer need the technology that we

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use today. That is a helpful tool today, but I
think we need to move beyond it and really reclaim
what we're capable of with our consciousness. And you know,
as people like David Clement's talks about who is really
exploring the meaning of the sub quantum field, that way

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in which we can tap into source field energy to heal.
We don't need hip replacements if we remember how to
heal and bring our bodies back into harmony, back into balance.
And he talks about how different galactic beings know how
to regenerate, know how to tap into that sub quantum
field to heal and change. That's what we're capable of.

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So again, I think we need to move beyond our
reliance on materialistic reality and scientific materialism and technology to
remember what we're capable of.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
So less warp speed, more meditation.

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
Yes, coming from the heart, because that knowing comes from
the heart, not from the mind.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Yeah, I understand what you're saying, and I got I wish,
I hope I can. I'm alive for that world that
you're talking about. It's kind of like my country X.
I hope we get to a place where that is,
but I do.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
I do still agree that. I still do still think.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
That it's a process. It will take a minute to
get there. I'm not sure if it will happen in
your lifetime or my lifetime. I think that's the idealized
version of it, of us evolving, and God, I hope
it happens, and I hope it happens quickly because it's painful.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
I really do.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
I actually think it can happen very rapidly. And that's
what the Shamans that I've trained with would say, because
we can change that morphogenic field in a blink of
an eye if enough of us move into higher consciousness.
And part of why I'm so interested in twenty thirty two.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
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Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
Is that in June of twenty thirty two, Uranus and
Saturn come into a new cycle together.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
They have a forty four year cycle.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
They will literally be in the sky in the upraised
arm of Orion. And if Orion represents our evolutionary journey
as humanity, the upraised arm of Orion for the ancient
Egyptians was order arises out of chaos. It's the energy

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of resurrection. So I think we have the capacity by
twenty thirty two to go through this transformational process and
resurrection as humanity into a higher state of consciousness, into
a new dimensional reality and a new Earth. I think

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it's we're capable of that happening across these next seven years.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
Well, I think this is why we all decide to
come to the show in this our nation. We all
wanted to be front row to this.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
Apparently absolutely. I think many of us are here to
support that transition and to know that it's possible.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Heather, It's been such a pleasure talking to you. I'm
going to ask a couple questions. I ask all of
my guests. What is your definition of living a fulfilled.

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
Life, living from the heart, aligning with the soul self,
and being the true fractal expression of cosmic consciousness that
you're meant to be?

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
Beautiful?

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Answer now, if you had a chance to go back
in time in a Dolorean and visit little Heather, what
advice would she give you? But what relates to me?
What advice would you give her?

Speaker 4 (01:12:44):
Dare to be different and stay aligned with your inner truth.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
And what would she what advice would she give you today?

Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
You lost your way for a while, but you're back
on track and stay living from your heart and remembering
that it's all about that growth in love and wisdom.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
How do you define God or Source?

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Well, these are easy questions.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
How I do what I can?

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
I do what I can.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
It's not my first barbecue.

Speaker 4 (01:13:13):
I believe that we that we live in the sea
of cosmic consciousness is love and wisdom that permeates all
that is. That we all arise from that source. We're
all a fractal expression of.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
That, and we.

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
Are all a part of that oneness, and that is
divine consciousness.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Now, what is love?

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
Love is living from the heart and living in right
relationship and harmony with all that is.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
I mean, you're good at this. I didn't give you
these questions before. These are good answers. I did very
good answers. If you could ask God or Source one question,
what would it be?

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
I would love to know why we have journeyed through
these cycles of consciousness.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
I think the ultimate purpose of our coming in and
incarnating here is to grow in love and wisdom and
to experience the sacredness of embodiment, to bring that experience
into the sea of consciousness. That every time we're here

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and we experience what we experience, we're bringing that into
cosmic consciousness.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
And where can people find out more about you and
the amazing work you're doing in the world.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
My website is Risingmoonhealingcenter dot com and I have my
own YouTube channel where I try to share a lot
of my understanding of what's going on astrologically.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
Beautiful And do you have any parting messages for the audience.

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
That this is such an important time to live from
the heart, allow yourself to heal, to open to the
love that's there for us. I think the cosmos and
the Earth are supporting us in this time to heal,
to transform, to move into higher consciousness. It's there for us,

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and to me, that's part of the beauty of understanding
the movement of the stars and planets. It's like we
are so being supported and guided to move through this
process and to heal and awaken and transform together.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Heather, it has not only been a pleasure talking to you,
but I just adore your energy. You have such a
beautiful energy to you, and the love comes from you.
You can sense it, you can feel it. I appreciate
everything you're doing to awaken this planet, my dear, so
thank you again so much for being here.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Thank you, Elix, and thank you for what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
I want to thank Heathers so much for coming on
the show and sharing her knowledge and wisdom with all
of us. If you want to get links to anything
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