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October 7, 2025 72 mins
Lori Spagna discusses her journey from corporate America to becoming a dog trainer and channel, emphasizing the importance of aligning with one's true divine purpose. She recounts overcoming addiction and health issues through energy work and consciousness shifts.

Lori explains her unique channeling method, where she unifies with beings rather than allowing them to hijack her body. The Collective, through her, elaborates on the agendas of light and dark, the role of fear, and the evolution of humanity and religions. They stress the importance of choosing expansion over contraction and embracing one's inherent value and worth.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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podcast are those of the guests and do not necessarily
reflect the views or positions of this show, its host,
or any of the companies they represent. Now today on
the show, we welcome Lauri Spanga and Laurie and I
have this amazing channeling session that not only talks about
humanity's future, but the hopeful message for humanity as we

(01:49):
move forward through this giant awakening shift. Let's dive in.
I'd like to welcome to the show, Laurie Spanya.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
How you doing, Lori, I'm doing great. Thank you so
much for having me. Alex, I'm really happy to be here.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Well, thank you so much for coming on the show.
I'm really looking forward to our conversation today. You are
a channel, a trance channel, which we will do a
little channeling session later. But your journey and your abilities
are very interesting to me. You do little animal communication,
you do a couple other things. So before we jump
into the deep end of the pool, as we like

(02:23):
to say, what was your life like before this insanity
of being a channel. Now all of these spiritual gifts
that are not you know, not let's say in the mainstream.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Well out of college, I went into corporate America. From
the first week, I was like, this is slavery. I
don't know how I'm going to do this. I don't
know how I'm going to survive this. In the twenty
years of working in corporate America, I developed all kinds
of coping mechanisms, obsessive like behaviorals, behavioral patterns, drinking, smoking
like extreme to the extreme. And in those twenty years

(02:58):
of developing all those healthy behavior I was going to
doctors and they were pumping me up with massive doses
of big farmer drugs. And what ended up happening after
twenty years, so just being way overweight, couldn't get to
sleep at night, thyride was off, hair was falling out,
oh like just everything, you know, going into work drunk
like crazy stuff. Eventually what happened was my brother died

(03:22):
and as many people do, have a divine he was
my divine wake up call, right, so I started getting messages.
He died of a drug overdose, which effectively is a suicide.
At least in his case, it certainly was. And he
came to me very quickly. And then it was like
a year of unpacking that like is this real? And

(03:44):
after about a year I really got it, like you're
on the same trajectory. You have to change your ways.
So I ended up quitting that corporate job and I
became a dog trainer, and I right away started hearing
the dogs and they would say, you listen to us,
will teach you. We're gonna teach you. We're here to help.
So that became that was like the big wake up call.

(04:07):
But even from there, I ended up moving from at
that time Los Angeles to Maui, and I spent two
years in Maui, and I was working with incredible masters
who were teaching me how to work with energy and
working with like the healing arts, and learning how to

(04:27):
use consciousness to shift and energy to shift my entire physicality.
Within those two years, all those unhealthy behaviors were gone,
like almost overnight, smoking two packs a day for twenty
years gone practically overnight. All the alcohol, all the pharmaceutical drugs,
like gone overnight. Because in a sense, I got rightly

(04:48):
aligned with my true what I would call my true
divine reason for being here, my true divine purpose for
being here. And it was through those experiences that my
whole energy and conscious consciousness started to shift. So since then,
there's just been continuous like unpacking, clearing, healing, resolving issues, right,

(05:10):
and that's what I do now. I just help other
people to do that stuff too.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
So Lord, when you were talking to me about your brother,
it sounded very Christmas Carol, like very Charles Dickens that
he passed and he comes on. It's like, if you
don't change your ways, you will you will have to
carry the change like I do, kind of if we
go down the Christmas Carol vibe. But when that happened,
you said, you send a year unpacking.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, because that's what that's when it was starting at first.
You know, you think when this stuff starts happening for
I think I can't speak for everybody, but it's like
you're insane, like that can't possibly be your brother, and
I can't possibly be your brother sending you messages or
talking to you or lighting up. So the earliest stages

(05:55):
can be some of the slowest stages, Like I go
to bed at night every night with my eyes closed,
getting visuals and images and being like this is insane,
Like what does all this mean? And then I'd hear things,
you know, and I'd get voices, and a lot of
dead people came to me too during those initial two years,
a lot of relatives, right, because you're just breaking through

(06:18):
the thresholds of what your consciousness up until those initial
breakthroughs will tolerate. Right, And it makes no sense to
the rational thinking left brain. Right, But really, what's happening
is when your psychic abilities are beginning. What's happening is
your third eye, you know, your pinnial pituitaries are getting

(06:39):
those master glands are getting activated. It was a massive
purification because I was cleaning out just through resonance, all
the crap that I had taken into my body. And
as I was becoming more joyful, I was able to
connect in a more clear, this clear and authentic way
that I just had to develop through practice. And I

(07:00):
didn't have any teachers. I didn't know anyone who knew
how to do this stuff. So that's how it all.
That's really how it started. And even with the channeling,
which I know we'll get into, I had a lot
of beings in the first two years would come to
me and they'd be some of them were dead relatives,
but there were a lot of like famous people too,
And then there were just beings and they'd be like,

(07:21):
let us channel through you, and I'd be like, no,
you're not like hijacking my body, Like, no, I'm not
allowing that. And I think, looking back, I was always
meant to be a channel, but I was meant to
develop and cultivate my unique way of doing it because
I don't allow beings to come in and through my body.
I unify in consciousness with the field where they are.

(07:45):
So I'm just merging and unifying because as you know,
all beings in the so called higher dimensional realms that
are beyond like the lower frequencies, they're just omnipresent, right,
So unifying with them at a certain frequency wherever they
are their frequency of consciousness, it just becomes I'm at

(08:05):
one with them. I'm not really in a trance so
to speak. I'm not letting someone hijack or take over
my body. I'm unifying and merging. And that's how it
all started. Like I would just sometimes even with the channeling,
it would be like I was in the early stages relaying,
I'd be like instant hearing, instant seeing, instant knowing, and

(08:27):
then I'd relay it. And then eventually it's like, oh,
it's just so much faster if I just unify and merge.
Does that make sense? It makes kind of expand it
on your question, But I hope that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
And then and I get that, I get all of that,
and that all makes perfect sense to me. The you know,
I see, I see dead people. Cool, I talk to
dead people, got it, I channel other being solid. But
when you start hearing dogs talking to you where this

(08:58):
is where the sun if Sam starts this show.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
I love that you say that. Yeah, But here's the thing.
So that's because our human our human identification of animals
is that they're like somehow less than us, or that
they're not as divinely intelligent as us somehow, But in reality,
they're also consciousness. We are all consciousness perceiving reality through

(09:26):
our frequency, bend with through the lens of consciousness of
who we are being. So in a sense, the animals
are doing that too, but they have a divine mission
and purpose for being here that is beyond what we
call egoic structure. Also we do have to ask, We
really do need to ask the collective. I know they
want to share about this egoic structure in any case.

(09:48):
So so the animals, they they're not functioning from like
the reptilian brain stem or the left analytical brain. They're
functioning from awareness.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
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Speaker 2 (10:00):
They just have this awareness. So it's the same concept
of like if I just tell you think of an elephant, well,
you are aware of an elephant before we said think
of it, right, They have just this awareness and the
moment their awareness is aware that your awareness is aware
of them, there's this telepathic sharing that's going on, and
it's just a different brainwave frequency than we're using because

(10:21):
we're right now using a beta right, it's just an
it's the theta brainwave that they're communicating, and it's not
usually it can be in English words. It definitely can
be in any language of words as we know it.
But they're so even beyond that, they're just sharing all
these awarenesses. Sometimes it's visuals, sometimes it sounds, smells, all
the same things associated with all the players, and it's

(10:44):
up to us to either unpack it and you know,
translate it. That's so it's so to me. It's so
basic in a way, right, it.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Is just but when you first heard the first dog say,
hey man, how are you doing? Ork?

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I mean, i'll tell you. So what happened was work
for you? Okay, I'll tell you. I love that you
asked that. So, because what happened was I was working
in corporate America. My brother was like, get out of this.
You're a slave and this is not going to be
good for you. You're headed down or wrong. And my
whole life, I really had this mantra since seven years old, right,
which is when people start that's like a threshold of

(11:26):
awakening at this seven year old mark. And so I
had this thing like I just want to be of
service to animals on a global scale. That was like
my mantra since seven And of course, my you know,
my programming of my upbringing was well you can't do that.
You won't make any money, you can't survive at that.
So I had to break through that limitation for myself,
like how do I be of service to animals on

(11:48):
a global scale? But that was always part of my
soul's agenda. So when I quit the corporate America job.
I became a dog trainer. I was hired by a
guy who spent twenty years working for the government, the military,
training military service animals, and when he was done working
with the government, he just started dog training business and
he hired and trained his trainers. So I got hired

(12:11):
by him. And when he was teaching us, it was
you're not allowed to think. Everything has to be automatic pilot,
no thinking, and he was videotaping us and critiquing us
for the first I don't know six months or not
six quite six months, but the number of number of
months we were working in shelters and we were being
videotaped and critiqued, and I had to learn how to

(12:31):
not use my brain. So I'm on an automatic pilot
and in that empty space, that's when I could hear
the dogs. It was like yeah. It was like yeah,
you think you're training us, No listen and I'll teach you.
That's what they would say. And after a while it
just became like okay, well what well what And then

(12:54):
it was like, well, we're here to help the humans,
and if you want to help us, then learn from us,
because what the animals are doing effectively is they are
all of them, not only are they sponges. So they
have like overall three reasons for being here. Three or four.
One is that they're showing humans what energy is, because

(13:14):
that's a future, that's the evolutionary journey that we're on
becoming energetically conscious beings. So they're showing us what energy
is by sponging up and absorbing the energy that's around
them and then mirroring that. So if an animal lives
with a human, they're going to display behaviors and illnesses

(13:35):
potentially diseases that are in their environment, right to teach
their human either what needs to be healed then resolved
or what behavioral patterns are present, right, So that's one
of their primary reasons. Of course, they're also healers, so
when they're sponging energy up, they're basically doing their best
in a sense to shift the energy in the home

(13:59):
if it can be here field or resolved somehow, which awe,
everything's healable. And then the other one of the other
ways that they're serving is just to anchor in energies.
For example, like they don't have to learn forgiveness. That's
not that's not something they have to learn or they
don't have to learn. You know, they don't have to

(14:19):
learn the kind of love that we're learning, right, unconditional love.
They just have that, right. They don't have to learn
a lot of the behaviors or the qualities that we're learning.
And you are being those energies.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
So you're talking more about like domesticated animals is what
you're speaking of.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yes, but this is true for wild animals too. They're
just serving in a different capacity. They're not necessarily teaching
their human that they live with. You know, you could
pick any animal in the wild, like the elephants are stored.
They have stored up all the records, right. I know
you've had a lot of people talk about the acostic records.
The elephants are keepers of the earth records. So if

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you learn to communicate with an elephant, you can access
the records of the history of Earth. Whales have it
for all the seas, all the waters. Dolphins have it too,
So they're storing up information, energy, and consciousness that's available
to us. Because of course we're not always getting the
truth through our mainstream ways of learning. You can't a

(15:22):
lot of the stuff that they have to offer. You
can't learn in a book, right, you can't just regurgitate it.
So they all have different roles to play, all the
different animals, and they're all teaching some kind of lessons
or higher learning or wisdom. And they're all holding or
embodying frequencies of energy that are designed for us to

(15:47):
potentially receive and absorb and become or share in some way.
It's all about growth and transformation, right. I mean you
could spend hours just unpacking all that stuff with the animals.
Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (15:59):
It makes perfect sense. It makes perfect sense. So when
you left corporate America and decided to become a dog trainer,
which obviously that's what you do. Uh, what did your face?

Speaker 2 (16:10):
I had a six figure credit card debt then at
that time too, I'm not kidding, six fa credit card
debt that I had tried for twenty years. Well, it developed, right.
I tried to get rid of it. I couldn't. But
the moment I started shifting, that started within two years,
that was gone, completely gone.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
I want to unpack this for a second. This is
really really important because something similar happened to me when
I was going through that time period in my life.
Debt and all that stuff. It happened to me when
I was younger, thank god. But so on a logical
stampot for everyone watching, on a logical standpoint, leaving a
corporate gig which was paying you, I'm assuming decently, well
if you were there twenty.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Years, right, I spending more than I was.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, but that's not that was your problem because I
did the same.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Wait, can I just say I didn't. I know, I'm
interrupting you. But what I had gotten, what had happened
was the pain had gotten so bad that I got
to a point where I would have rather died. I
would have rather died than to continue in that corporate
America slaves. It just was not working for me. And
that's how come In a way, I think that's all

(17:18):
part of the journey.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
You know.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Then anyway, let me let you finish. Yeah, the point I.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Was trying to make is that so you left this,
you know, quote unquote cushy job, meaning that it was
paying you. You weren't happy, but it was paying you,
and you decided to become a dog trainer. And on
a logical standpoint, this makes no sense whatsoever, because you're
not going to get yourself out of debt. By being
a dog trainer, because unless you're being paid six figures

(17:44):
or seven figures to be a dog trainer, it's not
going to help you get out. But somehow, because you
started to follow your own bliss, your alignment, doors started
to open opportunities to present themselves where you were able
to get out of debt. That's the lesson I want
people listening to kind of pull from here. It's that
logical path you know, podcasting, not a logical path you

(18:09):
know from where I came from. So it's all about
following your bliss. As Joseph Campbell used to say, uh,
that bliss would that would you agree with this?

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah? Absolutely, And not only following my bliss, but following
what was my what? What where my gifts really were?
Like in corporate America, I was just doing like a doer.
But when I was following my gifts, it was just
this stuff was revealing itself to me, So I didn't

(18:40):
I don't feel that I ever had to learn animal communication.
I feel that I'm certain that I've learned it in
other time space, realities, other incarnations, and that as I
became more and more aligned with who I truly am,
it just was revealing itself to me, like you didn't
know this was in you all along. And the other
stuff that I was using is coping mechanisms or buffering

(19:02):
the alcohol whatever, the cigarettes, the food, all that stuff.
I just wasn't needing that anymore. So it's dropping away
because really within us, we already, all of us already
have our greatest gifts and potentials within us. And when
I say within us, I don't just mean within the
physicality of who we are or just within our unconscious
because we're so much more then, not only as you

(19:25):
know the physicality, but we're more than the emotionality that's
just another dimensional body that is part of who we are.
We're so much more than the mentality, the mental body
of who we are. We're so much more than the energetic,
the oric, all these levels and layers or frequency bandwidths
of who we are. This is what we refer to

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when we say the multidimensionality. All of who we are
is within us. So anyone's greatest gifts, talents, and abilities.
It's not just following your joy, but yes, I completely
agree with that, but it's also revealing to yourself who
you truly are based on you coming into alignment, because

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that's the name of the game.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
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and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
It's alignment with your highest, most authentic expression of not
just even expression, the divinity that is within you as
a multi dimensional being who is an aspect of this
divine source that is consciousness. It is consciousness, It's always
infinitely present, and it's just about us allowing that to

(20:44):
be birthed through us and to reveal itself to us. Right,
it's all stored within us.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, exactly. But when you decided to come out of
the closet, if you will, with all your abilities, and
it's one thing to do this quietly probably, you know, quietly,
maybe the few friends, But when you publicly come out
to start doing this, how did you for others listening
who might be going through the same path, how did
you overcome the fear? Because I have to believe the

(21:13):
first time you told somebody, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
My very first first time I told somebody. I told
a friend of mine and we were both into like,
you know, we were into this stuff together, you know,
tarot cards and all that, and she was like, I
can't be your friend anymore. So yeah, I get it,
that happens, but she was like, I can't handle it.
You think you're an now you think your God and
so am I like you like, but we all are

(21:39):
aspects of that source. But she stopped being my friend.
So yeah, I had to face that pretty early on,
and of course I went through a divorce during that
window because the husband that I was married to was
definitely not into this stuff. He thought I was whacked.
My family thought I was whacked, And I think that's
part of why part of the journey was to go

(21:59):
to Maui, because you could be like in this sort
of isolated place and develop I was developing my gifts
in a sort of isolated way. But honestly, I was
always a black sheep, So in a way, I just
overcame that very early on, because the higher truth is like,
who cares whoever you have to say goodbye to on
your journey, then they're not meant to be there. As

(22:22):
you grow into or expand into more of the light
that you are, as you become more of your authentic self,
and those beings who you're meant to interact with more
and more are going to see and recognize that brilliance
within you, because it's we're all so brilliant. We're all
this magnificence that's birthing itself right now. Right, So if

(22:43):
someone can handle it like I love you, I bless you,
I honor you, thank you, I wish you your best.
We have no further business together. That's it.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Would you agree that one of the main reasons we
are down here in incarnation is to overcome fear in
all aspects of of living in general.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I would say that that's a necessary part of the journey.
You absolutely have to transmute all fear because the fear
is part of the density of the experience associated with separation. Right,
So in order to really come into alignment with your

(23:23):
source and to awaken that divinity from within you and
rebirth yourself anew in a sense, the fear can does
not have a space there. There's just no place for it.
It's just like you know, glass of ice cube. You
know you're going to put something new in and whatever
has been filled up in that cup that's no longer

(23:44):
serving has to come out, right. So, yes, I do
think we're here to transmitt, but I don't think that's
the real purpose. I think the real purpose is to
remember and reclaim the divinity of who we are and
to berth it and bring it into reality. And I
think that the game on Earth right now is to
awaken into the recognition of that, the remembrance, the reclamation

(24:10):
of that. And yeah, it requires a transmutation of fear
for sure.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, if you're remembering who you are, then the fear
naturally dissipates.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Naturally, but also requires it's not always passive, you know.
And this is one of those things like when we
start to work with the divine through direct experience. And
I'm not talking this isn't something that can be done
through the brain. I know, you know this. It's not
a brain thing. The brain becomes a tool, but it

(24:39):
is never orchestrating this, no way. It's so it's really
on a certain level. For locational we could say it's
through the heart center, which is a portal. Right, That's
why the chakra of the heart has two colors. You know,
Green is the earthly you know, magenta pink is the
higher realmspot. Really it's not even through the physical, right,
It's really more about coming into alignment through what we

(25:01):
could call the sacred, the core you could say it's
a sacred heart center, but really it's the center core
of being at one with all that is. And through
that alignment, that unification, the fear does it just starts
to evaporate. There's no place for it there. There's no
fear there. There is no fear there. There's just this

(25:23):
infinite consciousness that's infinitely present and can provide anything we
need in a sense, and it shows up in the
physical world in a way of divine timing, right, like, oh, okay,
I need X y Z for my thriving, for my surviving,
for my prospering, for my contribution into this world. And

(25:45):
then in a way that that's aligned shows up. Does
that make sense?

Speaker 1 (25:49):
It does. And it's our own belief system and is
our own programmings that stop that from happening in many ways,
where yeah, all those yes have overcome all of that stuff,
because it's one thing like I really need this to
come into my life, but in the back of your head,
I don't really believe this will ever. Yeah, then you've
got that's all.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
The doubt and the mental activity in the mental plane,
right because right within us there's the electromagnetic field. Then
we've got the physical body. Then we've got the emotionality.
That's density, right, Like we're not our emotions. I'm not
suggesting we deny the emotional body, but I'm saying we

(26:26):
are not our emotions. That's just energy. And then you've
got your mental which is like the mental plane is
like lighter, not as heavy, but still the mental body
has all kinds of interference, thoughts, beliefs, belief systems, other
kinds of entanglements, and that stuff interferre doubts, right, disbeliefs.

(26:48):
So yes, exactly what you just said. It interferes for sure.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
So you do. You are a channel. So when you
were you the way you were explaining how you channel
is interesting. So you don't step aside, You don't just
go to the backseat. You integrate with the beings or
the collective as they come in. What do you mean
by integrating emerge merge? So how explain that?

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah? So so traditional channeling old school I call it
old school channeling from sort of old paradigm teachings is
the human identity has to step aside and allow some
other being to take over their form. And I get it.
That's old school channeling. I was never willing to do

(27:33):
that because in a way, you're giving up a part
of your free will. You're saying, Okay, I'm not the
longer going to operate this vehicle, and I'm going to
let someone else basically hijack. That's not okay with me.
I get it. It's not dissing. It just wasn't okay
for me. So when I was approached over the years
by lots of beings, masters, angels, beings I didn't even

(27:55):
know to let me channel, I'd be like, no, you
can't come into my I'm not letting you. And so
just over the years, what I started to realize was
when I got into that state where I was so
aligned and that my energy field was so purified in

(28:15):
a sense there was no interference. I could identify over time,
who are you and who do you serve? And what's
your agenda? This is really important. We have to know
who are these beings. There's a lot of tricksters, there's
a lot of beings representing who aren't necessarily who they are.
It's all part of the game, no wrongness. But I
knew I only wanted that which was really pure, that

(28:38):
was in service to what I call God's source, Creator,
the infinite, the all that is, the spark, the flame,
the divine, and I only wanted the most degree of accuracy,
so I wasn't willing to tolerate anything that wasn't that.
So over time I'd be like, who are you, who
do you serve? What's your agenda? And more and more
I started to realize, like, I'm only interested in to

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serve the light, God, source, Creator, the infinite, the all
that is, and that their agenda is in service to
the light. And so I started to be able to
identify them, who are they like, et cetera. And then
I would allow them in a sense to give me
what I wanted and I'd relay it. It was a relay,
but what I started to realize it was just so
much faster if I just allowed myself in a sense

(29:23):
to just kind of become one with them in the field.
So this is why they call themselves the collective, because
I'm in that collective. I'm part of that collective, and
so we're just as a collective just bringing through what
that subcollective within the collective wants to share. Does that
make sense?

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Perfect sense? So can all energy.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
And consciousness is omnipresent, always present, always available. It's a
matter of being able to unify with the frequency the
energetic vibrations of where those beings or at the frequency
of light and consciousness where those beings are energetically residing,
so to speak.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show. Right you have to
turn the dial on the radio to tune in to
that specific because yeah, broadcasting all the time. If the
radio is off, it's off, or if you don't have
the right dial, you're not going to hear it. But

(30:27):
it's always the signal is always there. Yes, And then
do you get what's your process to get now?

Speaker 2 (30:34):
It does as a matter of just getting taking a
few breaths and asking them in fact, because they're always
present with me. So do you want to just ask
any question or do you want me to just allow
them to come through?

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Allow them to come through, and if they want to
say anything to the audience, because I'm sure they have
a few things to say before I start asking questions,
They're more than welcome to.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Awesome, And just so you know too, like I'm really
it's quite easy for me to come back and like
in and out. I'm not like in a deep trance.
It's just again so good. So yes, greetings and blessings, beloveds.
We are here with you today. We are identifying as
the collective, and we would like to clarify. As this

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has been already addressed, we would like to clarify more
regarding this topic of the light, the dark, the various agendas,
and that which has not yet been addressed, the difference
between good and evil or right and wrong. And we

(31:38):
will elaborate on all of this if you will allow
us a few moments to do so. Please first, the
agenda of the light. Let us define this, and let
us also explain the various agendas in your physical, earthly realm.
The agenda of the light is, as we define it,
the one that is aligned with God. The word that

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you utilize in this physical world is God, although it
may be also identified as source, spark, flame, infinite, all
that is, omniscient, omnipresent. There are indeed, perhaps infinite ways
to describe this source. Regardless, God is the word you
are most aligned with, although we hesitate to use this

(32:23):
word or over use this word, as it is often
related to religion and religious ideologies, which in and of
themselves are quite limiting. Nonetheless, the agenda of the light
is that which serves God's plan for lighted creation. And
you are all part of God's plan, and you are
all part of lighted creation. None of you, not one

(32:45):
of you, would exist if you were not. And this
is why you all are infinitely inherently valuable, worthy, important, deserving,
and matter, and not to mention, as you are all
beginning to recognize loved and lovable. Now, this is the
agenda of the light. And again we caution you here

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not to confuse this with the difference between good and bad,
or good and evil, right and wrong. We will get
to that. Now, let us identify the agenda of the dark,
which is again not to be confused. The agenda of
the dark is to allow for that which has been
to continue. And even perhaps it could be also said

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that the agenda in the dark includes contraction, constriction, limitation, lack,
various degrees of separation, separation from source, separation from one another,
separation from anything or everything. And the agenda of the

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dark overall is that which allows for more expansion to
come through, although it does not provide for the expansion
it provides for the darkness of which and out of
which the light emerges or expands from. The agenda of
the Light is an agenda of expansion. Now there are

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other agendas that are worthy of mentioning here. This includes
the agenda of the egoic structure, the inertia. This can
be identified as personality or human egoic identification, easiest defined
as service to the self. And this is beginning slowly

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to transform into another agenda, which is the agenda of
service to the greater good which eventually will expand if
one continues on their journey into more of the agenda
of the light. But service to the greater goods still
includes a great degree of egoic ructure. Now there is

(35:02):
another agenda, and that is the agenda of the balance.
And this is also an important agenda, for without the balance,
what you refer to as hell could break loose on
planet Earth, in other words, incredible amount of instability. So
the agenda of the balance is to keep the growth
and expansion in a proportionate way to that which allows

(35:23):
for the old paradigm or the contraction or the agenda
of the dark to coexist together, so the expansion can
continue without complete and total instability. So these are the
primary agendas. There is one more aspect with regard to
the agenda that falls under the agenda of the Dark,

(35:45):
which we would like to elaborate on here, and that
is where we bring into into concept this concept of
good and bad, or evil and light. Evil is simply
the desire or the attempt, the deliberate attempt to usurp
free will choice, and it exists as a creation of

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human consciousness from within the agenda of the Dark. So
in other words, out of the dark which provides for
expansion through human free will choice, an agenda of evil
was birthed. And this evil is the attempt to usurp
free will choice. And this agenda is exacerbating on your

(36:36):
Earth experience. But it is not an agenda that we
would support or agree with, for it is an agenda
that is coming to its extinguishment in years ahead. It
is meant to be extinguished. It will not be tolerated,
and it is being exposed as many of you are
becoming more and more aware of. Not to be confused,

(36:59):
of course, with the polarity extreme of the agenda of
good or so called positivity, for this agenda while it
is also an experience that is born out of the
experience of duality. It is simply another judgment term of
what is good or right versus what is wrong or evil.

(37:22):
You see, it is all human structure born out of
a game of duality which is now shifting into a
game that will eventually become plurality. That is the experience
of choosing through consciousness and vibration. All is available here now,

(37:47):
thank you so much for that pause there. Does that
make sense?

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Makes sense? It makes perfect sense. The first question is
how does the global how do the global conflicts that
are going on in the world today mirror the inner
battle humanity is facing on a soul level.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
It is certain to say that all that is taking
place on your world stage is but a drama, an
unfolding of unresolved issues that exist within the whole of
humanity's consciousness. So when one, when the group, when the
collective of humanity witnesses experiences, they are witnessing unresolved issues.

(38:24):
Let us point to some specifics if one or the
collective sees our witnesses, and that as the human consciousness
evolves and begins to recognize to greater and greater degrees
the inherent value that all of you have, which is
why in the earlier part of the sharing we brought
this to the light in a verbal way. As you

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all become more and more consciously aware of your inherent
value that you are loved, worthy, and deserving because you
exist period end of sentence, and as you might say,
Mike drop, this type of experience will begin to become eradicated.
It is just one example to continue with your questioning

(39:07):
another example. For example, in the United States, your current
world president is one who represents the patriarchy, the oligarchy,
the false authority, who simply is a tyrant or a
petty tyrant. You may like the person, this is not
about the person or his leadership. It is about the

(39:29):
archetypical pattern that this one is portraying. See because your
question was how does what is going on show up
in the world stage, and this is what we are saying.
This is not about the personality necessarily, it is about
the archetypical pattern that the world stage is demonstrating. We
could go on with this. When beings, for example, choose

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of their own free will a subtle example, more subtle,
that they want their videos to go viral or something
to go viral, or they want attention. This is another
example of inviting in something such as a viral type
of experience. Human consciousness is always being reflected on the
world stage.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
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and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
What we would advise here, or perhaps suggest, is that
humans begin to recognize the higher agenda or the agenda
of the Light, which is to begin to go in
to transform the external experience through transforming the internal experience.
We recognize that that is much of what you are
bringing through this particular podcast. These are just some examples.

(40:46):
We hope this has been helpful.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
It has it has in times of economic uncertainty. What
spiritual truths remain constant and grounding.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
In times of economic uncertainty? Their truths that remain constant
and certain are these. Your source is your provider, Your
connection with your source, your unification with your source, is
the ultimate provider. And as you stated earlier, this may
not necessarily be based entirely only on the human choice

(41:20):
of what the human believes they need or want, but
it is always based on the higher truth that you
will be provided for always. You are not meant to
be different from the birds or other animal species who
are always provided for. You are always provided for, even
in the moments when you feel that you are not

(41:42):
provided for, even in the moments where your personality self
may identify with the frequency bandwidths of not having enough,
You are being provided for. Else you would not be
here now. Else you would not have even the technology
to listen or to watch here now. You are always
provided for. You will always be provided for for as

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long as you exist, and you have always existed and
always will You will be provided for. Your needs will
always be provided for. But what is required is that
you start to shift your human mentality into the knowing
that this is absolutely true, and not just the knowing
through the mental state, but through the energetic field, the

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frequency that you embody, into the full and complete embodiment
of knowing that you will always be provided for, that
you will always have enough, and that you actually always
have had enough. Otherwise you would not be here now.
This is challenging for many humans, but it is the

(42:45):
recognition that is required for challenging economic times. And we
would also like to say that it is also important
to realize that your so called old paradigm often referred
to as third dimension. The physical earthly world is built
out of structures that were not necessarily devised for the

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good of all. This is part of what is shifting.
As we have stated, So these old structures that are
simply unsustainable are as you are seeing serving the few
to the harm and detriment of the many. They were
not born out of there. They were born out of
egoic structure, as we defined earlier, so and through egoic structure.

(43:33):
So these structures are beginning to, as you are already aware,
expose themselves and ultimately be replaced by entirely new architecture.
When we talk about architecture, we are talking about energetic
structure that is being birthed in and through you, that
already exists, which is entirely sustainable, which is based on

(43:57):
divine source alignment that will provide for you. It is
not a changing or a reformation of that which was
once created. It is a complete transformation. It is not
even It is brand new in a sense, born of
an entirely new paradigm of consciousness and based in an

(44:20):
entirely new architectural structure formed of energy and consciousness. That
is in the all, knowing that it will provide for all,
that all will always be eternally provided for. You see,
and as one and all become more aligned and attuned
to it and with it, this will become the new

(44:40):
dynamic for all. But what is required is a shifting, energetic, attainment,
vibrational change, and that is what is happening.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Where do you see humanity going in the next rest
of this year, the rest of this decade, and in
the near future. Because of all of the shifting, all
of the structures crumbling, that we're not serving the greater good,
there seems to be much chaos in the world, and
many people are afraid, many souls are afraid of what's

(45:13):
happening and where everything's going. With mother nature, with politics,
with media, with food, with every aspect of our world
seems to be shifting and changing so rapidly that it
is terrifying for many people. Yes, yes, where do you
see us going in the next year, next five years
and onward after that?

Speaker 2 (45:36):
So you'd like to offer two answers to this question,
for these are both required. One is in regard to
where do we see us going? Where where is humanity going?
And one is how to address or to navigate navigate
best in these during these shifting times with regard to

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where humanity is going, clearly there are two options one
can choose to align with the agenda of the Light,
which is to expand, which will still provide for the
experience of duality, in other words, separation to the degree
that an oak tree will always be an oak tree
and a maple tree will still be a maple tree.

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There will still be differentiation, you see. But the agenda
of the Light is the path of unification with source,
alignment with source, expansion into pure frequencies of consciousness. So
when we say where do we see people going? This
is a choice based on free will. One must choose it,

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and the only way that one can really truly ultimately
align with it is through direct experience. Is not something
that can be learned through the brain. And this is
what the old school teachers have always known. Their teachings
have become somewhat limited in a sense, for they are
based on old structures which are very slow and methodical.

(47:10):
So what we are offering in the second part will
address this the second part of our answer. The other
option based on free will is for people to continue
to choose the agenda of the dark, meaning contraction, restriction, limitation,
old structures that are collapsing and no longer serving their

(47:31):
good old ways of thinking, perceiving, believing, behaving, emoting, energetic
frequencies that are so limited in their structure and dynamic
that they themselves are unsustainable. If beings continue to choose this,
they will eventually be lovingly in a sense, forced to

(47:53):
make new choices, either to choose to expand into the
light or to choose to extinguish, in other words, complete
this part of their journey in the physical world, for
these frequencies are no longer sustainable and they will continue
to self extinguish. This is not discompassionate, This is an

(48:16):
honest answer. Beings are having the choice to shift their
energetic vibration and consciousness to allow for the experience of
duality to continue and yet align themselves energetically with entirely
new frequencies vibrations and consciousness expansion, or to choose not

(48:38):
to change. It is that simple. The free will choice
will continue, for that is God's law, that is part
of universal law that exists in your reality. So free
will choice remains. The question is what will humans choose.

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As humans choose to align more and more with the
agenda of the Light that allows for greater experience, they
will find that their choices become more vast, more wide,
more enjoyable, more pleasurable, less dense and heavy, less entangled
in that which is often referred to as egoic structure

(49:21):
or old paradigm or third dimension. These are just terminologies,
you see. It is the ultimate evolution of consciousness that
we are speaking of, and free will still reigns supreme.
So this is how we see this unfolding. Now let
us address the second part as we mentioned, which is

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how to help humans as they are quite afraid. Many
humans are experiencing the game of fear, and it does
not feel like a very fun game. We are aware,
and this is because the old energetics associated with that
which is collapsing has been essentially controlled, dominated, and manipulated

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with the energetic frequencies of fear.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
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and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
And these energetic frequencies of fear include doubt, disbelief, grief,
all forms of suffering associated with worry, regret, remorse, guilt, shame, blame, etc.
These frequencies, these energetic entanglements, are quite challenging to break

(50:41):
free from. So even if one is choosing to align
with the light, they still must break free or somehow
transmute or liberate their identity, their human experience from the
energies of fear, and so in order to do that,

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they must find a practice that works for them. There
are many teachers, such as the one whose voice box
is being utilized now, and many others, many of whom
have been guests on this particular podcast, who will assist
with this. Ultimately, it is within each being, but from
the human identification. Most humans have not learned, not through

(51:26):
left brain learning, but through direct experience how to transmute that.
So they must find a practice that works for them
where they are taught how to have embody a direct
experience that allows for this transmutation of fear. This is
not something that is meant to be traversed through old

(51:49):
paradigm teachings. This is something that is meant to be
traversed through an entirely new direct experience unification with source.
As humans learn to do this and practice it, they
will see through direct experience not only that they liberate

(52:10):
themselves from fear and associated fear based frequencies, but that
new possibilities and potentials reveal to them that are eradicated.
That they are eradicated freedom, liberated from those fear based frequencies,
and through the revealing of the new potentials, they are

(52:31):
energetically aligned with everything that is available to them as
they evolve.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Is there a higher purpose or a karmic lesson behind
the recurring cycles of war and violence that humanity has going.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
To choose something new? There's so much laughter. It's like
to just choose something new. I'm relaying this, not channeling direct, right,
but that's what they're saying. Just choose something new, like
when they're laughing. It's there's so much because it's not
like condescending, it's just the energy of joy. Choose something new. Okay,

(53:06):
allow this please come through. What would like you to
understand is that the energies of war are a game
of what you refer to as your old paradigm in
the game of duality, the game of separation, what is
often referred to, as we have mentioned, the game of
the third dimensional paradigm, that which you are all breaking
free of and while there is a dark agenda and

(53:26):
an agenda of evil to usurp human free will and
to control, dominate, and manipulate and coerce them into some
kind of war based type of reality fighting, separation, duality, right, wrong, etc.
This is no longer being tolerated human consciousness, is it evolving,

(53:46):
is no longer choosing it, And we are inviting more
and more of you to understand energetic vibration, the energetic
vibration of joy, divine joy, divine inspiration, divine optimism, divine grace,
divine love. These are not human emotions. These are frequencies

(54:07):
of light. And as beings begin to recognize how they
may embody these frequencies, there can be no war any longer.
Humans will learn for more and no more. It is
simply about energetic shifting. So choose to become a new
vibrational bandwidth. Not so much new it is within you already,

(54:31):
but essentially new to your human experience. For as you
do choose new, you become a new frequency that no
longer sustains the vibration of war that no longer sustains.
Let us give you a simple answer, because in the
game of right and wrong, in the game of duality,

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right and wrong, good and bad, yes and no, up
and down. No one ever wins, no one will ever win.
Will just be a constant game of right and wrong,
good and bad, war and peace. There is no winning
in this game. So what there is is a transmutation

(55:14):
to new frequencies as we have stated, divine joy, divine peace,
divine harmony, divine love, divine grace, divine enthusiasm, divine optimism,
divine hope, divine inspiration. These frequencies, as we have stated,
are energetic frequencies that humans will learn to begin to
embody and as they are embodied, these frequencies will expand

(55:40):
and there will be no more war, for the two
are not harmonious together. With regard to the energy of karma,
let us state this karma is simply the residue of energies,
unresolved patterns that were created, patterns, program ways of operating,

(56:01):
ways of being, and so it is not about good
or bad, or right or wrong. It is simply the
residue of energies that are left from previous choices, and
it could be said incarnational experiences. So when you say
is there's some karmic lesson associated with a pattern of war.
It is simply to desire to choose to behave differently,

(56:23):
to choose to evolve differently, to choose differently, which has
been stated. So we are simply saying the karmic lessons
associated with war have just been stated. There is nothing
else to explore on this topic, is there? Simply that
humans must choose to realign with a source. For up

(56:43):
until now in your linear time, there have been false authorities.
That is part of the old paradigm. These false authorities,
through their own personal gain, created experiences associated with war
in the game of duality. And these experiences associated with
war allowed for humans and others to be entrapped in

(57:07):
this game of duality right and wrong, good and bad, etc.
And this hierarchical, oligarchical, patriarchal type of experience is what
you are realizing is collapsing. So the karmic residue is
simply to say, there are no false authorities any longer
who have power or dominion over us. This is the

(57:32):
karmic lesson, so to speak. It is choosing the true authority,
which is the true, real and authentic connection with the source,
the divine that is within. As this choice is made,
no false authority will be able to continue to control, dominate,
or manipulate. That is the karmic lesson, so to speak.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
All the world's religion's major religion seem to be cracking
a little bit in their followers and their institutions because again,
very similar to what you've said, they are not in
service of the greater good. Many times they're in service
of their own agendas, their own dogmas. Where is Where

(58:21):
do you see the world's religions evolving too in the
next ten years, fifty years, one hundred years, Because I,
very much like you said before, I don't believe that
they will. They can't continue. They're unsustainable in the way
that they are. We can't move forward in this way.
So I'd love to hear where you think they'll go.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Yes, And in a sense you have said enough. The
world's religions were based out of a paradigm that was
based in control, domination, manipulation, secrecy, and coercion with false
authorities keeping other humans separate from their source. And if
you have not come already into this recognition, and of
course you have, there is a baby in a bathwater,

(59:03):
so to speak, in every experience, so not to say
that there are not some good things in organized religion.
It's just that the very paradigm, the energetic architect architecture,
the structure of which organized religion was born out of
birth from, is based in separation through a hierarchical, hierarchical
patriarchal system designed to control and dominate and manipulate through

(59:29):
secrecy and coercion and manipulation and the usage of the
energetic frequencies of fear. Thus the concept of heaven and
hell for example, and we could go on. So this
structure will no longer continue. It is continuing for as
long as human consciousness will tolerate it, and as humans

(59:51):
evolve into unification with their source, they will come into
greater and greater recognition that the old paradigm associated with
organized religion has too many limitations to truly serve their evolution.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
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and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
And as they break through in union with their source,
they will continue over some time to continue to extract
that which could be referred to as baby. There are
still some good things in it, but they will evolve
over time. For the direct connection with source will not
be denied. No one and nothing can you sert the

(01:00:38):
direct connection to any living beings, connection, direct union with
their own source, the aspect of the source that they are.
So this organized religion will over time begin to completely
be you could say, collapse, eradicated its needs. It will
no longer serve the needs of the people as the

(01:01:02):
people evolve. As you know and as others know, this
is a process. You see as the process happens, as
so called evolution happens at an accelerated rate, which is
to say that more and more humans and other beings
elevate in frequency, vibration, and consciousness. The collapse happens at

(01:01:25):
an accelerated pace. Right, This is the acceleration. So as
humans evolve in an accelerated way, the collapse of the
old systems and structures also happens in an accelerated way.
This is when the agenda of the why, the agenda
of the balance, to serve the balance is so important

(01:01:47):
because it allows for the collapse to happen with the
most amount the maximum amount of awakening, with the least
amount of harm and detriment. So to direct, to directly answer,
religion will become a thing of the past, no longer needed,
no longer required, although you do see how religion is

(01:02:11):
attempting in their way to evolve as well.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Finally, do you have any parting words for the audience
that are watching this now and in the future.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
First, we would like for you to understand you are
not the egoic structure you have identified with. There is
a belief system born out of the old paradigm that
you have an ego, and we understand that this has
been a useful lesson for it translates to edging God out,

(01:02:44):
does it not. But know this, you do not have
an ego. You have a heart, you have a body,
you have a brain. You do not have an ego.
There is no ego to be found. All there is
is energy, an energy to structure, and when you recognize
the energetic structure within you is what you are addressing

(01:03:09):
and resolving through the transformation of your own energetic fields,
meaning the emotions, the mental plane, etc. You will recognize
that the higher truth of who you are is consciousness,
and that the consciousness of who you are vibrates to
a frequency that is so far beyond the definition of

(01:03:31):
human emotion, including human love. Many times humans and other channelers,
and we recognize and honor all beings. Many times they
will share that you are love, but still the identification
of love is a human emotion. No, you are far
more than that. You are the energetic consciousness that vibrates

(01:03:55):
to a frequency far beyond any human egoic structure. Are
beyond any human emotion, even that which is identified as
human love. You are the frequency that energetically vibrates so
far beyond the limitation of what humans have identified in
the past. But it does feel energetically in a sense

(01:04:16):
like the frequency of divine joy, divine bliss, divine euphoria, etc.
And these energetic frequencies that are so all encompassing in
terms of consciousness, that all gifts, all knowing will come
through you, and you'll burst this into your reality. You
will anchor in all of this new consciousness that is

(01:04:39):
not something that can be learned in any book that
is printed. That is so far beyond the physical, earthly
world you have existed in up until now. That will
be brilliant and magnificent, and it does not include fear.
It is the vibration of the truth of who you
all are, birthing from within you and it is extraordinary.

(01:05:04):
So begin to know this higher truth of who you
are and seek out opportunities and experiences that will allow
you to cultivate it from within, for as it is
birth within, you will find the brilliance that you are
that has always been available to you, and that will
shift your trajectories so much to your liking and that

(01:05:27):
you will be able to assist your fellow humans and
animals even beyond your current recognition of what is possible
and available.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
How that's beautiful. The collective, the collective is very interesting.
I like their vibe. They're very articulate, and they have a.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Good in it. Thank you. I can tell you I
feel very joyful right now because that's what happens. So
I just go into this kind of like I could,
and I didn't get to share with you at the
onset though, when I had the near death experience. It's
so the energy is so amazing. So just go into
these like rapturous, hysterical laughter. Right, It's just so very

(01:06:17):
beautiful and that's really what we're all, I think, what
we are all evolving into. So thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Now, I'm gonna ask you a few questions to ask
on my guests, Hm, what is your definition of living
a fulfilled life? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Wow, I love this question so much. To me, living
a fulfilled life it's kind of semi channel, but it
is really coming into alignment with your source and allowing
that source to be the life that operates in and
through you in all of your activities, so that you're

(01:06:51):
really aligned with this source, expressing it in your physical,
earthly world. Like to me, that's what it is. When
I'm living in accordance with high s fulfillment. I'm getting
to do what I'm meant to do and be who
I'm meant to be, like aligned with that, which is
really unique and right for me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
If you had a chance to go back in time
and speak to little Laurie, what advice would you give her?

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Oh my god, I would tell her, I love you
so much, don't worry. Everything's just fine. You have so
much reason to be here. You matter your life. I
would say this to everybody. You matter, your life matters,
your Your reason for being here is so you're valuable.
You're important, You're special, I would say to everybody, because

(01:07:37):
I think that's part of what we're all yearning for,
is like our inherent value and worth, deserveability, lovability, and
that's what when we come into alignment, that's really what
we reveal to ourselves. So I would say to her,
and I would say to her, just just love yourself
no matter what, and don't don't don't worry about the

(01:08:01):
bumps along the way, because those are part of the growth,
all those bumps. Like, there's a lot of bumps, there's
a lot of turbulence. So I'd be like, you know,
the bumpy ride, it's going to be okay, Like, try
to play with it, try to explore it with curiosity.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Now, what advice would little Lorie give you today?

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Oh my gosh, that's a really good one. What would
she say? She would just be like, thank you, I
love you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
How do you define God or Source or the divine.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
The infinitely all that is that will be who, who
and whatever we all need it to be for our growth.
It will conform and adapt for our needs so that
we can eventually come into the recognition that it is

(01:08:58):
consciousness being consciousness, What is love, energy, frequency, vibration, consciousness?

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Being and experiencing? And I would even say contributing, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Beautifully said and where can people find out more about
you and the amazing work you're doing in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Oh, my website is lorispanya dot com. That's my name,
and I have a YouTube channel as well where I
share this on a podcast there, The Awakened Elevated Human
And of course they can you know what we didn't
talk as much about. But if they want to learn
more about animal communication and telepathy, they can get some
amazing free gifts at lorispania dot com Forward slash Free Gifts,

(01:09:50):
Forward slash Animals. And if they want to learn more
about all the gifts that are within them, they're all
in your DNA, right, It's all stored in you, so
you can get some DNA activations and learn about that
at lorisponnat dot com Forward Slash Free Gifts, Forward slash Dna.
There's a lot more free gifts there as well. Those

(01:10:13):
are some good starters.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
And have any party messages for the audience. We'll be
right back after a word from our sponsor, and now
back to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Mostly just that I just want to say thank you
for having me and for giving me the opportunity to
share and contribute, and just to honor and recognize your
role Alex, because I just your podcast is off the
charts fabulous and you just bring so many amazing people
and then just to everybody, just shine your lighte just
be your brilliant magnificence, and just keep choosing to align

(01:10:51):
with the greatness of who you are, because that's what
we're all here for. That's really being The best version
of you is in being authentic to who you are.
Is how you help humanity. That is how you shift
and support and assist. Because the brighter you shine not
from arrogance or superiority, but just from just being love, brilliance, consciousness.

(01:11:15):
The best version of you that you can be reaching
for the best aspect of your consciousness is how you
help those around you as well, and that's how you
fall in love with yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
Right. That's a pleasure talking to you today, talking to
the collective. It has been a true honor having you
on the show. And thank you so much for everything
you're doing to help awaken this planet. So I appreciate you, my.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
Dear, thank you well, thank you so much. I'm so grateful,
thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
I like to thank Lorie so much for coming on
the show and sharing our knowledge and wisdom with all
of us. If you want to get links to anything
we spoke about in this episode, head over to the
show notes at next level soul dot com. Forward slash
six to eight. Now, if this conversation stirred something in you,
there's more waiting. You can listen to this episode completely
commercial free on next level Soul TV's app where soul

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meets streaming. Watch and listen on Apple iOS, Android, Apple TV, Rouku,
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Begin your awakening at next levelsoul dot tv. Thank you
so much for listening. As I always say, trust the journey.
It's there to teach you. I'll see you next time.
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