NLS 630: EVIDENTIAL MEDIUM SPEAKS to the DEAD: Brings MESSAGE of LOVE That Will HEAL Your HEART with Amber Kasic

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or any of the companies they represent. Now today on
the show, we welcome evidential medium Amber Kasik. Amber and
I talk about what the other side is trying to
say to us, how are they're trying to communicate to us,

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and a hopeful, loving message from the other side to
all of humanity. This episode might bring you to a
little bit of tears, guys, so let's dive in. I
like to welcome to the show Ambercase.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Okay, you do, an Amber, I'm great, Thank you so
much for having me. I'm so excited to be here.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Thank you so much for coming down to Next Leveloo.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yes, absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
It's so great to have you here. You are an
evidential medium I am, and you also work an end
of life as.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Well as a coach of the end of life posts.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah. Absolutely so. I want to just start off the
conversation with can you share the story behind your coffee mug,
which is she led a life with endless possibility, of
endless possibility.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
I love this question. No one's asked me a question
like this before.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
That's why you're here at next Levelso yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well I found that coffee mug during the process of
my spiritual awakening. And man, does that coffee mug now
just represent everything, everything that is possible in our lives
and just how much we have no idea of this essence,

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of the tapestry of connection of which we are apart,
and the possibilities truly are endless.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
So what was your spiritual path? What would you what
would you describe your identity prior to you jumping onto
the spiritual path?

Speaker 2 (03:11):
A wife, mother, a teacher. I spent twenty years in education,
but really I identified very much as a teacher. That
was really a core of who I am. Grades high
school mostly.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
God, bless you, God bless no.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
It was great. I love working with kids, and especially
I was a language teacher. I love language acquisition and
thinking about how we how people learn second languages languages,
you know, Spanish and English. I would love to learn more,
like yeah, very cool, very cool, and you know, even

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as a classroom teacher. I was always with the students,
looking to be a bridge culturally, a bridge to others
around the world for my students, and so that's a
core part of who I am. But that bridge has
now greatly expanded.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Very much so. And you're also a wife and a mother.
How does that influence your understanding of this human experience?
Because I mean, this is a heck of a journey
we're on, and this is a little rough down here.
Without question, I am a father and a father and
a podcast host and a husband and all that. Yeah,
but from your point of view, how does the mother

(04:30):
and the wife help you understand this experience because it's
a very different experience and I'm walking through so I'm
just curious.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah. Well, I tell you, you know, I didn't necessarily feel
called like I had to be a mom at first.
I almost sort of felt ambivalent, even though I loved kids.
But I'll tell you that when I became a mom, Wow,
did my intuition that I already had explode And it

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gave me this whole other sense of the sacredness of creation.
But this was before all of my spiritual experiences in awakening.
So I don't even know if I would have used
those words to describe it like I would now. But
I definitely felt a part of the process of creation,
and I felt a sole connection to my son, as

(05:28):
I'm sure many parents do. But I'm sorry, there's something
different about moms.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Oh, there's no.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Question, and that that that connection now with my other awareness,
just speaks to this level of again, the tapestry of
connection that we all are and we all have.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, there is a thing called woman's intuition. Yeah, then
there's mom intuition. It's a whole of the love. Yeah,
where you can like you can almost feel like he's
doing something in the other the other doing something, you know,
And I had The dads don't have intuition per se,
but I I have the I have a precognitive ability

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to see what's going to happen or what the potential
of what's going to happen, Like you're going to kill yourself,
you're going to break that, you're gonna that I kind
of see. Yeah, I'm always seeing.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Five steps ahead of w are. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, So when your your father passed, that was kind
of the catalyst for all of this. Absolutely, before you
get that, before we go there were you raised spiritual.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I was raised going to Catholic church.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Catholic. Yeah, I'm recovering.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Okay, I've heard that, and I heard you speak about that. Yes,
I was raised Catholic. In my twenties, I sort of
disidentified with Catholicism so much and started exploring other churches
because I really wanted that sense of community and I
still had this faith. But right around the age of

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I was with a group of students. Actually we were
on a journey together and we were working with an
indigenous group in Peru for a few days, and there
was a group of women there from not the exact
same building church that I was attending, but the same
affiliation church. It was a brand of Lutheran church, and

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they were lovely, lovely women. But with my students, we
kept talking about we're here to learn from these from
these people and how they experienced life in humanity, and
these lovely women were there to also help them see
and grow in their understanding of Jesus. And I completely understood,

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looking from the outside all of the ways that people
were bringing their own beauty to the situation. But I
had this very just this moment of epiphany where I
saw it from the outside, and I realized these women
are missing out on a beautiful opportunity to simply experience

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the humanity of this group as they see their lives
and their world and humanity, and it's coming from a
beautiful place. They're wanting to share themselves, but they're not
seeking to understand the other. And I couldn't go back
and go to church in the same way anymore interesting

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because I saw it as a missed opportunity to connect
human to human without an agenda.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
That's a very interesting point. I haven't had that point
on the show before, and it's something that's really interesting
because as Catholics, as Christians, you want to you go
off and spread the word that you know, you have
to convert, you know, hopefully without the crusades. Yeah exactly.
But you do that. But when you go into someone
else's culture, and when you start the world and you

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start seeing other people's culture, how other people live, you
start to realize that we are I mean, at least
I have all connected, and every path leads kind of
to the same place, and it's just the path that
they chose because they were born into it or something
like that. If you were born in a Muslim country
more likely you might have been Muslim if you would
have born in Israel. Your it's just the scope of

(09:22):
where you're born and what has been, what you're drawn
to or what you're put in as the moment you're
you're born, right, So it's really interesting to see that
that perception that you had that as Christians you want
to go in and go listen. I know you you
worship the tree, but this right here is and I
don't mean I'm not in Seltam just Nigato, but Jesus

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is the way. But they don't stop to go, well,
what is it about the tree? What is the elemental
gods that you're going through? Or what is the nature
that you're how are you living like? And they're taking
I think you're right, the misstopper tunity to learn how
they're experiencing life differently than us and see how that
can inform your own life. Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (10:08):
It does? Yeah. And it was just a missed opportunity
of beautiful human to human connection. And so when I
went home, I just had this internal decision that I
just didn't want to be a part of something that
felt separating, even unintentionally.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
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Speaker 2 (10:39):
Because it had Yeah, but I always want to bring
people together. It's what I was doing in my classroom.
It's just how I conduct myself. And so I still
had my personal beliefs, but in that moment, my views
were really starting to grow, and I started to take

(11:00):
more and more stance of we can't know everything, and
this idea that there might be so much more that
our brains simply cannot comprehend and we're trying to fill
in gaps. And it also doesn't mean that these very

(11:21):
key religious figures aren't real, didn't exist, didn't have their
own stories. But there's more than one story.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, obviously around the world, there's a few more. There's
a few stories that we're all listening to. But that's
a beautiful and very evolved idea that you're just talking about.
And you did that at what.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
In your early time, I was exactly thirty.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
At thirty, I would like to say at thirty I
was doing these kind of depots, but I was not.
But that's very fascinating. So when your father passed, that's
kind of when this's all started to unravel and ravel
at the same time. How old were you when he passed?

Speaker 2 (12:02):
I was thirty nine, Okay, so I she.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Had nine years of this new discovery of spirituality. Did
you just start going to other trying to learn about it?

Speaker 2 (12:11):
I actually remember driving with a group of monks from
a local Buddhist temple to a conference in Detroit. Here
was just me, this thirty year old lady, right, who
is in this van with Buddhist monks asking them existential
questions about life in their views. It was an interfaith conference.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, that isn't that amazing because you can learn so
much from each other. And the thing I keep finding
in my work is that all it's just different flavors
of the same message. Just different flavors of the same message.
We're all going to the same place. It's just it's
a lot more interesting this way as opposed to just
the one.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, and you know that's probably really really when I
became maybe more conscious of my own seekingness, just to
really be a seeker, but to choose to be a seeker.
I think we are all seekers, but it's different to
choose consciously choose to be a seeker.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
So when when your father passes, you're thirty nine. What
what happened? Because it was an interesting It wasn't a
normal passing, if you will, So how did that passing
affect you?

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah? Well, I will say first that looking back, I
suffered more leading up to his passing, knowing that he
had a terminal diagnosis. He passed a kidney cancer that
had also lung cancer and had spread. But I suffered
more in all of that anticipatory grief, And man, do

(13:38):
I wish I could go back and change some of
the ways that I interacted with my dad. Just being
more present was one example. He used to send me
these funny videos via email every day, animal videos, stuff
that would make me roll my eyes, you know, crass videos,
this thing, all kinds of things. And I remember one
day he asked me, did you see that owl video

(14:01):
I shared with you? And I said, you know, Dad,
I'm saving a lot of these because I want to
open them in the future. And I wish I could
do that differently now, because enjoyed it. Yeah, he was
seeking to connect, and I was seeking to keep him
around when I couldn't. I was trying to control and
an inevitable part of life. Death is just like birth.

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We cannot control it. We can only be in support
of it. So there was a lot of suffering in
that way, sleepless nights. I remember being up until two
in the morning reading horoscopes try to find out exactly
how and when he was going to die. I don't
even believe in horoscopes, didn't at the time, none of
these things. And I was trying to control every amount

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of suffering. And but that's natural. It is, it is,
it is, it is. But but I experience his passing
as simultaneously the most painful and beautiful, truly moment of
my life, truly, and I now just see it and

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I felt it even in the moment, as a sacred
sacred is the best word for it, truly a sacred transition.
When he actually passed, while about twelve hours before he
took his last breath, he had been unconscious for days,
and I was laying alongside him in the hospice bed

(15:32):
that was in our parents' living room, and you know,
I had my eyes closed, I was holding his hand,
and I was just thinking about the fact that I'm
never gonna hear his voice again. We had already had
our last conversation in the middle of the night, you know,
a few days prior, which we had agreed upon a
sign that he might be able to give me when
he goes. So I was thinking about I'll never hear

(15:54):
his voice again. I was thinking about how he'll not
see my grandson start kindergarten, or see my grandson, you
know right, really ride his bike for the first time
without draining wheels, all these sorts of things. And I
was also thinking about stuff with him, and I just
kind of left unsaid and done because there was some
forgiveness that was needed and I had my own process

(16:17):
of that through his passing, but it was always very
like hidden, and I think he knew what I was doing,
but we couldn't just explicitly have the conversation. So I
was thinking about all these things and it was very
painful place to be, and almost not by choice, because
of that pain, I just stopped thinking and instead I

(16:40):
simply focused on all of the unconditional love that I
was feeling for my dad, and in that moment, none
of that stuff really mattered anymore. The junk, you know,
of life of him, it just didn't matter anymore. He
was just my perfectly imperfect dad, and I loved him dearly,
and so that place of love and I might say

(17:03):
now just kind of surrender and letting go to that,
I started experiencing in my mind these hues of purple
that were kind of swirling in my mind. Haven't experienced
that before, but okay, whatever. And then I felt this
warmth that started at the crown of my head and
just kind of slowly went down to my toes. And

(17:23):
I remember thinking, oh, the sun must be coming in
the window and just kind of playing tricks on me.
But then I felt with full clarity what I can
only describe as a force. It was like wind, but
not because it wasn't on my skin, and it was
like this whoosh, and it came in from the center

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of my back into the center of my chest and
I just felt this force, this presence, and this force
was doing slow circles around the center of my chest,
my heart center. Although I never never used words like
that at the time. That's crazy, Yeah, it is right.

(18:07):
And so it was just sort of doing this slow
emotion almost like are you aware? Are you aware? And
as I was aware, it traveled to my shoulder and
it paused, and this feeling was so new, unlike anything
I have ever felt in my life that I couldn't
judge it. There was there was nothing to judge it against.

(18:27):
I could only be with the moment, and that force
traveled down my arm, like on the inside of my body,
into my hand and then into my dad's hand, and
I just knew. I knew it, like the sky is blue,
we are eternally bonded, and all as well. Everything's fine,

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everything is fine. And it didn't even matter what that meant.
You know, just if someone were to say that to me, well,
you and your dad are eternally bonded, in my head,
I'd start analyzing, what is that mean? He's dying? What
do you mean we're eternally bonded? I'm ever going to
talk to him again. I didn't care, because it was
just true. It was anno matter what it meant, we

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are eternally bonded. And I gave him a big hug,
and I said in his ear because he couldn't hear me,
but I knew somehow he could hear me. Dad, I
don't know what that was, but I know you felt
it too, and you take all that love and light
in your core with you. Words I didn't use where
was that even coming from I was not a love
and light person, but it was me saying I see you.

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I see you as the essence, as the soul, as
the beautiful man, and the stuff, and we all have
our stuff. It's junk, right, It's just the junk. Leave
the old news behind. I'm okay if you go now.
It was a beautiful moment and I actually had to

(19:57):
leave the house because I had had been with him
all week and my mom as well, and I had
to leave the house to go be with my family
for a few hours. And when I left the house,
I was joyous. I was blasting music in the car.
I was singing on the way home, the wind, you know,
windows down, the wind blowing, and I just remember thinking,

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what is wrong with me?

Speaker 1 (20:21):

Speaker 2 (20:31):
But I had this literally, this just elation that was
stuck with me, and so much so that I didn't
want to go back to the house later at night.
I wanted that to be my last woman with my
dad because it was so beautiful. But I did go
back and he actually took his last breath at about
I Love this. On November first in the during daylight

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savings time change in Michigan. So we didn't really know
exactly what time to write on the birth certificate at first,
because he passed when we are absent of time on
a full Hunter's moon, on one one one of twenty twenty.
And none of that, now I know is an accident.
I also know now with months months later reflection and

(21:18):
evidential mediumship experiences, that that experience I had with him,
that shared death experience, that was him. We think that
we're here until we stop breathing. We are not. There
is a lot more happening with our soul transition and

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in and out of our physical consciousness and our higher
consciousness and the consciousness of the beyond. There's more happening
during a dying process than meets the eye. That was
him telling me we are eternally bonded. That was him
giving me that experience to let me know that all

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as well.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Wow, okay, so from that shared death experience essentially that
there's a leap between that and hey, I'm an evidential medium.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Now, yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Assuming they the day after you didn't go, oh, now,
I see that be dead. So how does that jump happen.
When is that? When is that? Because I'm assuming that
kind of opened things up.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yes, it opened a door, but but really that moment
began a year long journey with my dad, guided by
him in spirit, truly almost every day.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
So how do you mean that?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Sure? Well, just hours after he passed away. It's not
that I thought he was with me at all. I
just knew I had this lovely experience. I called it
an other worldly experience. I had not heard of shared
death experiences. I didn't know what it was. I just
knew it was real. But hours after he died, into
a park just to decompress, I just wanted to walk.

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You know, it's very emotional being with someone at their passing.
And I pulled into the barking space and I finally
let some tears go, and they weren't even so much
grief as just rawness and rawness of all the emotions.
And as I was letting those tears go, I heard
my dad's voice, his actual voice. In my mind. I
didn't think it was him. I thought I was making

(23:23):
it up, but I heard him, and he said, Amby,
That's what he called me, his nickname. You've cried enough
tears over me and your life. Get out of the car.
And I stopped, and I, you know, kind of crying,
and I thought to myself, Gee, that's true. I have
cried enough tears over my dad in my life. But

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also my brain just made that up. But I got
out of the car and I started walking, and as
I was walking, I just sort of said to myself, gee, Dad,
I hope you're all right, and without a moment hesitation,
instantly he was right there in my mind is actual voice,
and that voice said, I'm just fine, Amby. I'm going

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to stick around here a while and help some people,
and I'm happy about it. And I did stop walking,
not because I believed that that was my dad, but
I had this other knowing, which was I as Amber.
If I were inventing his voice, I would not have
said that. Amber would have said, Heaven so beautiful, I'm

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with my dog again, and my granddad agree to me,
because I told you, that's who I hope to see
one day, you know, in the beyond. And yes, my
dad love Frank Sinatra. He might have even just put
that thought in your head, because that's how this works.
Like that's what I would have come up with never
would I have come up with I'm going to stick

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around here a while and help some people.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, that's not a usual. The other thought is what normally,
like if you're talking to your dearly departed mother or father, Yeah,
automatically like oh, Heaven's great, all this kind you'll never
hear like, you know, I'm gonna stick around a bit
and help. Yeah, that's something that's no. No.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
And my next thought was, you know, outside of okay, well,
that's interesting because I wouldn't have said that if I
were making this up. But my next thought was, even
if that were true, who would he be helping? Like,
I didn't even have the thought me, m, we just said.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
He didn't say I'm gonna help you, I'm gonna help help.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
I'm just yeah, I'm gonna help you people.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, but he really was about to guide me down
a journey of awakening and understanding our greater reality, and
so I wouldn't hear his voice again in my mind
for for about a month or so. After that, it
just started, like many people or you know, all of
a sudden, baby feathers were constantly everywhere on the floor

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in my house.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Baby feathers, yeah, like.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Real tiny ones like you know, like real tiny ones
like little bit yes, yeah, yeah. And I didn't really
believe in this kind of stuff. I wanted to because
it sounds faintiful and nice, but you know, what do
you mean? I like science, what do you mean someone
in spirit is trying to put objects places? That wasn't

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a part of my frame of reference or worldview, but
I couldn't deny that these very odd synchronicities kept occurring.
And then, you know, as I said, two days before
my dad died, we in the middle of the night,
in a moment of lucidity, agreed upon a sign together.

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I had asked him for one in an email and
he never wrote me back, probably because he didn't want
to disappoint me because he didn't know what was next either.
And in that two am conversation, I said, hey, Dad,
he never wrote me back, and he kind of made
a joke and goes, well, I suppose I should get
right on that. Then, like in this state, he's not

(26:54):
able to respond, you know, but we decided I made
some suggestions. I first suggested a leaf in my face
from a really strong wind, and he kind of grunted
and I took that as disapproval, and so then I
suggested a random animal, that's something really random that just
kind of comes up to me out of nowhere, and

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he had grunted again, which I just took his disapproval.
And then I said, how about a deer in my
direct walking path? And he had opened his eyes wide
in that moment, and he said, you'll know in the eyes,
and that was so that I took that as I
agreed upon sign.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Well.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
The night after he passed away, I went for a
walk with my husband to tell him about just the
experiences of the whole week. I hadn't really seen my
family for a week. And as we got to the park,
you know, it was seven o'clock PM on November two,
here comes this insane wind and it's just blowing leaves him.

(27:59):
I feel, now, it's November two in the Midwest, it
is it gets windy. I didn't really think anything of it,
but I started telling him the story of this conversation
that I had with my dad. And as I'm telling
the story, literally a black lab and labs for my
dad's favorite dog. He always had a lab his whole life,
a black lab with no owner. No collar, no leash,

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comes running up to us, barking at us. It's got
no one around. It even kind of trails off and
turns around and barks at us. And even my husband,
who loves statistics at this time with Ace, was atheist,
doesn't believe in any of this stuff, was like, I
think that dog wants us to follow him. And that

(28:43):
dog literally went running constantly, stopping barking at us. As
we're following it. It goes into the cemetery, across the streets,
stop it. And so my husband and I, in our
moment of common sense, said to each other, you know,
we should probably just go get in the car, and
there's a neighborhood in the area. We should help this

(29:03):
dog find it's home. So we get in the car,
We go over to the cemetery. We see the dog again.
It stops, it's barking at us, and literally, from probably
fifty yards away, my husband opens the van door and
this dog just comes running across the cemetery field right
into our van. We didn't even get up, and so

(29:23):
we drive around the neighborhood. We find this dog's home,
drop the dog off.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
How did you find the dog's home?

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Well, we got out. You know, there's like these huge
houses on a hill in the neighborhood, so we just
kind of went to each one just way yep. And
if someone finally said, oh, these people have a black lab,
go to the fourhouses down whatever. So we drop the
dog off, and as we are rounding the corner coming
down the hill, what is right in front of the

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van in the middle of the road.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
A young buck. Oh, we'll be right back after a
word from our sponsor, and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
And you know, it's not uncommon to see deer where
I live, but it is very uncommon to have a
buck stand in the middle of the road and not move,
just headlights blaring. And this buck walked slowly, very slowly
to the side of the road. It was probably about

(30:28):
seven feet from my car window, and it just stood
there and stared at me. And by this point I
am bawling. I have the window down. I'm telling the
deer how beautiful it is. I know that this is
a sign from my dad. I'm crying. I'm telling it
thank you, trying to see if there's any food I

(30:50):
can throw it. It was just the most beautiful moment,
and I knew that it was my dad letting me
know that everything was well. And even though I had
already felt that when we had that moment together, this
is like the real world confirmation to me of that.
And even my husband, again, who doesn't believe in anything

(31:13):
woo woo, while it does now didn't at the time, said,
this is way beyond coincidence. To have that win, to
have the random dog, to have this steer, and that's
literally the three things.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
That were in it happened.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, I was literally telling him the story as it was,
as it would started to unfold.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
I must have freaked him out. I must have freaked
them out.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Oh there was a lot more to come that really
freaked him out, way beyond that. But it kind of
those types of things began my journey of just starting
to open my eyes, I would say. And then as
the weeks went by, I started to feel his presence.
I would really feel my dad.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
So when you say, oh, want to God to dig
into this, what do you mean by feel your dad?
Is it like a signature of like a smell, like
like I remember my grandmother smell, you know, the smell
of her house. I could smell them. I remember the
smell of my grandfather and his energy. I could feel
their energies and I, as I'm saying them in my head,

(32:20):
I can feel but the signature of both of them.
Is that what you're talking about kind of like a
signature of him.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Well, there were different ways that that would show up,
but in those earliest moments, it was like a pressure
change in the air around me. Is the best way
because describe, Yes, you know, it kind of felt felt physical,
but not in a way that it's something we could see, right,
But I felt like a pressure change in the air

(32:47):
around me. A lot of times my ear would ring.
It took me about two months to pick up on
this pattern for my brain to become aware of it.
But the left side of my face would itch whenever
I I had this thought that his presence was near.
And that's kind of how it started in the very beginning,
and I just thought, you know, like he's here, but

(33:10):
I wanted to know he was here. I need physical
proof that he's here. But of course our loved ones
from beyond can't manifest themselves exactly in front of us,
So it shows up in the signs. It shows up
in the synchronicities, it shows up in all of those ways,
and a lot of times. You know, there was a
moment where I had that felt presence and I just

(33:31):
I was on a walk and I closed my eyes
and I said, Dad, I really feel you. But I
could really use a deer about now, because I wanted
the proof. And as I picked up my head to
turn on my continue on my walk, there was a
book right in my direct walking path, forty feet away,

(33:52):
just staring at me. And I'd have those types of
moments that to me were the confirmation that this is real,
really feeling him, And so every time I believed. Once
I finally believed, then something new would open interesting. And
it's like him dangling a carrot. Now we know Amber,

(34:14):
she's curious. She's gonna want to understand how these things
are unfolding and how it's working, and so let's just
keep dangling carrots in front of her will guide her
down this path knowing. But I didn't know eventually that
would develop into spontaneous mediumship abilities.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
So let's get into the spontaneous mediumship because this story
is fantastic. There's bucks, there's.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Labs, it's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
I itch my face, I'm ringing in the ears. All
that's great. Now, the leap from the connection to your father,
which many people do have that and I've heard of many,
I've spoken to many people who have a deep connection
with someone sawn, a daughter, parent, something like that. But
to make the leap to evidential medium, what's that process like?

(35:00):
And how did you deal with it? And I always
get to ask the question do you see dead people?
How does it work for you? Is it just sense? Like?
How does it work exactly?

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah? Okay, well I'll explain how it works. But let's
get to the let's kind of go through the how
how did it develop? Briefly, I will say that once
I believed I had this connection with my dad, I
started a meditation journey. And meditated before I had but
sporadically around the age of thirty as a part of

(35:32):
that seeking. Yeah I didn't. Yeah, that's it gets But
you know I didn't. There was no actual seriousness in
my practice to it. But I started a meditation journey
because I felt it key to understanding this connection. That
meditation journey deepened my connection with my dad, where his

(35:54):
voice returned and it was like having almost a one
on one conversation with him. So in some ways, that's
the beginning of the mediumship journey. But it was just
my dad. I didn't perceive it as mediumship. I perceived
it as a connection with my dad, which we call
after death or direct post death communication is what we called.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Did you even understand what a medium was? Did you
know of the topic?

Speaker 2 (36:18):
I knew of mediums. Did I believe in them? I
don't know. Yeah. I kind of thought, okay, there's probably
some people that have some kind of ability, but I
didn't spend a lot of my time thinking about it either.
But as that communication with my dad developed again, he
sometimes he would tell me things that were very direct

(36:39):
and true, so it was validating for me that I
really am hearing from him, and that eventually grew into
spontaneous communication with others with loved ones in my sphere,
not because I was asking it was the next step. Again,
every time I finally believed this is really happening, the

(37:00):
next thing would grow. What I love about this, and
I say it all the time. When all of this
was first happening, I kept asking, what is the science
that is fostering this? Because I love science and I
believe in science, But I don't think some person sprinkled
magic fairy dust on amber. There is something in our

(37:23):
universe that is fostering this, and I want to understand it.
I still believe that, and I believe we are on
the cusp of that understanding. But I also know I
was being guided by love in something that is beyond science,
and there's more than just that. But those mediumship abilities
developed spontaneously through others. I can remember pulling in the

(37:47):
driveway of my daycare provider and all of a sudden,
I hear this young teenage male voice in my mind
and he said, in reference to my daycare provider, She's great,
isn't she? And that is I knew my daycare provider

(38:08):
had lost her brother when he was a teenager, decades
before I ever knew her, didn't live in the same city,
none of that, and I had a knowing this is
her brother. I just had a knowing. And so I
sat in my car before I walked in her house,
had drop off my son, and I said, give me

(38:28):
a piece of evidence. How can I know this is
really you? And he showed me a bunny with a
top hat on, and I thought, well, that's like the
most random things, you know. Oh yeah, it's very specific
but also very random. And so I dropped my son
off and I just felt I couldn't tell her because

(38:50):
it was so embarrassing and vulnerable and what if, what
if that's false? And I'm just crazy, you know. But
I did get up the courage to call her on
the phone later and I just said, you know, I've
been having these really interesting experiences since my dad died,
and I heard this young male teenage voice in my
mind in my car. I told her what he said,

(39:12):
and I told her about the bunny with the top hat,
and she said, you know, he gave me for the
very last gift before he died, a stuffed animal bunny
with this big top head.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
On that you would have never known.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
No, I would have never known that. And she said,
I actually used to say to my mom like after
he passed, oh, he didn't really buy me that, Like
you must have bought me that, because it's so random
for this teenage boy to give his sister this thing,
but she held on to it with such sentimental value.
She also said to me, I'm turning fifty next week
and I've been asking him for a sign and it

(39:51):
was moments like that where it's not that I called
myself a medium. I didn't even really attribute it to mediumship.
I just knew that these fascinating moments of beauty and
love were happening, and so they would happen like that
just in my sphere with people around me, And then

(40:11):
they started happening in random public places. I remember being
in a grocery store and being in line, just checking
out my groceries, going about my everyday life.

Speaker 1 (40:22):

Speaker 2 (40:31):
And all of a sudden, I felt a woman and
I knew she passed in her fifties, and I knew
she died of emphysema. I could feel it in my
chest in almost a physical way, and I had a
knowing this is the mother of the woman behind me. Wow,
that's trippy, men, right, But you know, I have care

(40:54):
and integrity and love and boundaries, and I'm not a
person who's going to go around. Hey, I'm hearing from
the I don't want to do no, But I think
they needed to happen because I wouldn't have kept following
the path if those things wouldn't have happened. I wasn't
asking for any of this, and so I turned to

(41:16):
that woman and I said, I'm sorry, I have to
ask you something. Do you have a mother who passed
in her fifties of emphaesima? And she said, do you
know my mother? And we both just kind of looked
at each other with these kind of jaws draped, you know,
and her with curiosity, and I just explained to her,

(41:38):
I don't know what's happening. I just know that my
dad died recently, and I've been experiencing these types of
things and I'm trying to understand it. I didn't have
a message with it. I just was feeling this presence
and it was a part of my journey of growth
and understanding.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
But I did have a day when I became media okay,
And what was that day? My dad's seventy would have
been his seventy sixth birthday. We drove up to my
childhood home to spread his ashes on the property behind
the house. It's like eight hours away. I don't ever
go there anymore. It's very far, and my family made

(42:20):
a whole trip of it. He always wanted past some
of his ashes at least on that property where he'd
walk my dog every day. And so we drove up
there and the man that lives in the house now
happened to be outside, so I told him why I
was there. We had some small talk, exchange, some conversation.
You know, he was living in my dad's dream home.

(42:41):
They built a log home, and we talked about that,
and he made this comment about how, you know, the
house is pretty big for him. He's alone now, and
I could tell he just had a very sort of
sad down feel about him. But I thanked him. He
was happy to help me out with that tradition. So
we did that. And when I went back to the hotel,

(43:03):
and like I wasn now at this time, I was
having a daily meditation practice and I sat for myself
in my meditation, and all of a sudden, I felt
this man in my awareness. I felt him to have
diabetes in life because I could feel in my actual

(43:25):
stomach like little injection pinprick, So I knew he gave
himself daily injections in life, and I feel that he
had diabetes. He showed me a writing pad, and it
just I had the knowing he was a teacher. And
then it came with the sense of this is the
brother of the man in the log home. And then
right as I had that thought, a woman steps into

(43:47):
my awareness, and I know she's a mother. She's holding
flowers in my face, and she gives me the impression
of she loved her mailbox flowers and her daily walks
to the mailbox. And I just had the knowing it's
the mother of this man in the house. And then
the mother showed me a kitchen potholder. I still have

(44:08):
a picture of it, white and green with a yellow
flower in the middle, and I knew it was passed
down in the family. That part was just a knowing.
And I'm quickly grabbing my hotel writing pad and I'm
writing all of this down on a piece of paper.
She wanted to thank him for him caring for her,
how much she appreciated him, how much that both the

(44:29):
brother and her loved him deeply. And lastly, before they left,
all I saw was this bird and then a box underneath,
and I had this knowing special bird in a box,
and I wrote it down like that on the paper
just so. And then they left my awareness and I
looked at that paper and it felt like a mandate.

(44:52):
It felt like I have to go tell this man
these things, not even because I should. It felt like
a mandate. But my second thought was, I cannot do
this out of integrity. I can't go up to somebody's
house and be like, hey, I communicate it with your mom,
and I don't even know exactly all the people and

(45:13):
his family, if they've passed all the things.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
The relationships were.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yeah, I had an idea that he was alone, just
from the way that he was sharing with me. But
you know, this is not my style at all. But
it felt like a mandate, like I had to, And
so I decided, I'm just gonna go there and I'm
gonna be honest, and I'm not even gonna tell him everything.
I'm going to offer him the opportunity to see the

(45:38):
paper if he wants to, so that he can make
a choice for himself. So that's what I did. And
by the way, this gentleman, he had all these political
flags in front of his house, and I thought, this
is gonna be the least woo woo person that has
ever been. But I did. I went to his house,

(45:58):
I pulled in the driveway, he came out of the house,
before I could even be too scared to turn around
and drive away. He must have saw me pull up.
So when he came out, I looked and I was like,
just wanting to make small talk first, right, I can't
just get out of the car and go, hey, I've
got this paper here. And I saw a little cross

(46:19):
in the yard across the way, probably like a dog
would bury had been buried there, right, And so I said, oh, Larry,
I see the cross in the yard there. You must
have had a dog here. We had a chocolate lab.
His name was Thunder, you know, just beloved dog. And
he by now he's kind of coming closer to me,
and he looks to me and he has this smile
on his face, and the look on his face said

(46:40):
to me, should I really tell her? Almost like am
I safe?

Speaker 1 (46:44):
You know?

Speaker 2 (46:45):
And he must have decided I was, and he said, actually,
my brother used to live with me. I took care
of him for a while, and one day a hummingbird
flew in these big windows and it died, and my
brother was really sad about it, and so we buried
it in this box and put it in them. And
I looked down on my paper, and what was the

(47:05):
last thing I had written special bird in a box
and this is the creativity of spirit. They knew I
was scared out of my mind. They directed me to
see that. They helped him feel safe enough to tell
me that story so that I would see that on
my paper and I would know I meant to share

(47:26):
this with him and don't worry, And so I did.
I told him, Larry, I didn't tell you everything yesterday.
I've been having these experiences with my dad since he passed,
and this morning I felt like I connected with what
I perceived to be your mom and your brother. I
wrote everything down. Would you like to see the paper?

(47:47):
So he took the paper from me and he was
just reading it all and I'm thinking in my mind,
oh my gosh, he's going to think I'm crazy. And
he looks up from the paper and he said, hold
on just a minute, and he went into the house
and a few minutes later he came out and he's
holding that white and green kitchen potholder with the yellow
flower in the middle, and he said, this was buried

(48:10):
in a box in the basement under stacks of boxes.
It was made by my grandfather for my mother and
passed down in the family, exactly what I had written
on the paper passed down in the family. You could
have never known about this, And in that moment we
just had this exchange of kind of awe, but at

(48:32):
the same time, neither of us quite knew what to
make of it. But he wanted my phone number. He
took my phone number, and he called me a week
later when I was home, and he said, Amber, I've
been thinking about this all week, and I have a
question for you. Why me, meaning like, why would this
happen to me? And I said, Larry, I love that

(48:54):
you asked that question because I've been asking myself the
same thing for the last year. Why me? And I
know the answer, because you are worthy. You are worthy
of that love. So the way that he experienced that love,
he was thinking of all kinds of people, why me?

(49:16):
Why would I get this beauty from God or from spirit? Right,
We're all entitled to that love and beauty, and you
are worthy. And he said to me, you know, I
was really depressed and actually felt hopeless before this, and
you have changed my life. And when I hung up

(49:38):
that phone, I said, I'm a medium and I have
to accept this.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
And then you went to your to your husband and said, dear,
we're going to change a few things.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Well, he had definitely been along for the ride of
insane no, because you know, he had been along this
journey with me, and he even kind of was present
for some pretty miraculous experiences. So it's sort of like
he grew in belief alongside me. But this is when
that's when I really just fully accepted it for myself

(50:15):
because I didn't want to be a medium. Like I
don't want to be a medium? Was everybody going to
think of me?

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Right?

Speaker 2 (50:22):
That's crazy? It was very scary. But what I just
kept seeing how beautiful it was and the opportunities of
love and beauty and what am I? I am a
bridge builder. I've been a bridge builder in teaching and
education among cultures for kids. That's a part of my core.

(50:42):
This is just a different way of building bridges and
what a beautiful opportunity.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor
and now back to the show. So when you decide
to like, Okay, I'm going to be a medium now,
I got to believe there was some fear because there's
one thing to talk to your husband about it and
talk to strangers about it, but to go publicly out

(51:11):
and become Hey everyone, I'm going to wave my freak
flag out and say hey, I'm a medium. Now. How
did you overcome that? Because there are a lot of
people watching who do have to kind of overcome this,
not because they're becoming mediums, but just to kind of
change their programming, go into a different route of spirituality, right,

(51:31):
become a seeker, and they're afraid of telling their parents,
are afraid of doing things publicly. How did you? How
did you overcome that?

Speaker 2 (51:39):
It didn't happen overnight. It definitely did not happen overnight
by any means. It was a process of unfolding. But
all the way, I was just getting the guidance of
courage from spirit, from my dad, from spirit guides once
I finally believed in them. For a while, I did
believe in them, but some part of me thought they're
for other people, not me, Like I'm not I'm not

(52:00):
important enough to have spirit team. That's the kind of
but you know what a bit a lot of people
feel that that's this idea that we have. It's like,
I'm not important enough, right, why would I have all
that beauty?

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Well, it's the programming that we've been kind of kind
of been given by society, by our religions, by all
of it that you are. You know, you're born as Catholic,
We're born with original sin right away, so you're already
you're in the debt column when you just come into
the situation. So that kind of works on you psychologically,
it does, and you have to kind of break free

(52:35):
of that to be I'm worthy of all the love right,
worthy of all of the spirit guides, I'm worthy of
all of that because.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
We all are right. Yeah, but we're I think you know,
well one even if even if one isn't Christian per se,
but we just know the story of Jesus. That kind
of the story is that we're not worthy right until
someone decides that we are in the beyond right. And

(53:03):
as a part of my spiritual experiences, I mean I
had moments where I truly was on my knees and
humility and tears because I felt the love and the
worth that I am. I felt that viscerally, and it
was a humbling feeling. It wasn't I'm so amazing worthy, No,

(53:26):
it was the most humbling experiences. But it was also
an experience of coming home, just coming home to your
true self and knowing that, how did.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
You reconcile how you were raised with this new version
of you because so many people are walking that path.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Yeah, well, I'm going to actually kind of combine that
question with this one of the courage and how I
became a medium. And I will tell you that, besides
getting the guidance and the encouragement constantly from spirit from
my dad to kind of put myself out there and
just be me right, be free, I have to give
a lot of credit to my husband and to my
mom because they were both very validating of my experiences.

(54:10):
My mom did not believe in mediums. It wasn't that
she was anti medium, but she did not believe in
medium her experience, of course, no. But I had a
moment where my dad, in a meditation, said to me,
actually I was not even meditating what am I saying.
I was in the middle of a work project, and
I felt his presence and so by now, because I
was experienced by then, I could kind of tune in

(54:32):
and I heard his voice and he said, call your mom.
She's sad and eating pudding. And I was afraid to
call her well, and I was still in that. This
was in the first four or five months. I was
still in that. I know I'm connected to him, but

(54:53):
what if I was afraid of that vulnerability. And so
at first I didn't call her, and I felt, my Dad,
that's non judgmental disappointment. I felt it non judgmental, But
he really wanted me to call her, and that disappointment
motivated me. So I picked up the phone. I called her,
and yes, she was sad. Something was broken the house.

(55:13):
It was something Dad would normally deal with. She couldn't
figure it out, and it was bringing about all the grief.
And she was eating pudding. It was like in the
back of the cupboard, and she just went for it
because she was sad. And what do women do when
we're sad? We look for her chocolate, right, And when
when I asked her that, yes, I am eating pudding,
why are you asking me that? And I told her,

(55:36):
you know what had just happened, yeah, And it brought
such joy to her. And in that moment she had
kind of known what was happening to me, but I
don't know. She fully believed and that's normal. I get it.
No judgment, but in that moment she believed, of course,
And you know, from that moment on, she's just been

(55:57):
so validating of my experience. So when you're when the
people around you that love you and that matter the
most are validating you, and you know, hopefully the people
that know me, they know who I am, and they
know my heart and my integrity. I have no reason

(56:20):
to make it up. I was living a very nice
life before all of this, and that combined with simply
all of the nudges from my dad and from spirit
to be courageous to follow this path that I'm being
put on, that courage just sort of naturally grew, and

(56:43):
you went.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Out and started a business trying to help people.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah, I did, although I had a mediumship session that
that really, for lack of a better word, said you
know before it was I'm a mean I have to
accept this. And then I had an experience that I
had to take a personal day off of work the
very next day because the experience was so profound, and

(57:11):
I said, I can't not help people.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
What was the experience?

Speaker 2 (57:18):
I was still in this so called practicing mode. I
wasn't offering mediumship professionally, but I was offering mediumship for
people I knew, people that knew my story with my
dad and that sort of thing. And a woman that
was on her own spiritual path reached out to me
almost like for a practice, even just for herself. And

(57:38):
so as we sat together on the zoom and I'm
in my connection, I immediately feel this woman. She's very petite,
and she's holding all of her shopping bags and I
know she's super petite, and she's got these tiny little
heels on and she's shuffling around with all these bags.
And then she showed me a Virgin Mary's statue with

(58:00):
art utensils at its feet, and I had the sense
of old and then young, like I could feel it
in my head, old and then young. And the woman
I was practicing with her name was Mary. She said
to me, you know, to set this actually sounds exactly
like my aunt. She has Alzheimer's. She paints Virgin Mary

(58:21):
statues for a hobby, and she is super petite, but
she's not passed on. She's living in a care facility.
I don't really you know, it's far away. I don't
really connect with her, but she's not passed on. But
those pieces of evidence were so specific. So I asked her, well,

(58:42):
do you mind if we continue, because this is just
fascinating to me. Now I'm just curious, right, And this
woman helped me feel she was doing like this with
her blanket and was helping me feel her blanket is missing.
She wants her blanket and her stuffed animal. She has
a stuffed animal and it's also missing. So I communicated
all that to the woman and she got just kind

(59:05):
of received that all and said, I'll have to call,
you know, my uncle, who's kind of her caretaker. And
then I felt a man step into my awareness, and
he was very masculine. I could feel it. He had
a broad chest and he was real manly. And I said,
I don't know why, but he's putting on high heels

(59:25):
and holding little shopping bags and going ha ha ha
ha ha ha. And she started laughing and she said,
that's my uncle. In spirit. He imitated his sister, the
woman with Alzheimer's at the last family party right before
he died, because she's soapetite and it's all shopping with
all her bags. He put on a skirt and pretended

(59:47):
to be her and kind of paraded around our family event.
Well he was here to take her home for lack
of a better word, and when we wrapped up our call,
she called her family. She called me later that evening
and said, right after we had connected, the care facility

(01:00:08):
had called the family and asked them told them that
they might want to come because their aunt was likely
passing away that day. And when they got there to
the care facility, she was missing her blanket and she
was missing her stuffed animal and they were able to
go find it for her and bring it to her. Now,
did she need that to move on? No, but we

(01:00:28):
all want comfort in nurturing at the end of life.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Right, We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
And so her family was able to be present with
her when she passed. This helped me understand there is
so much more happening with who, not only who we
are and our souls in human form, but at the
time of passing. And it reminded me of my moments
with my dad at the end of his life, and

(01:01:07):
just the way that both this woman with Alzheimer's and
my dad just wanted that care, comfort and nurturing so
that they could, you know, just I'm going to say,
pass with more peace and an ease of transition. And
because of this connection, her family was able to be
there when we passed. And all this happened, by the way,

(01:01:29):
on January eleventh, one one one, when did my dad pass?
One one one? On November first, it was so profound,
filled with so much love, and it just reminded me
of my mission to support people in all kinds of
ways around death and dying, and to be a messenger

(01:01:52):
that we are alive and well and we are always
connected to our loved ones here and be beyond, and
there is nothing but peace and love. And that made
me take a day off work and I had to
sit in that profoundness and say, I can't not serve
people in this way. And that's when I officially started

(01:02:17):
my mediumship practice.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
So something's very interesting about that story is that you
were connecting with someone who hadn't passed yet and who
to Alzheimer's. I have heard from other mediums that people
with Alzheimer's are there, but they're not at the same
time that they are kind of they're choosing to forget

(01:02:43):
and they're kind of almost I heard one medium told
me once I was like, Yeah, I was working with
this lady and their family was super sad that she
wasn't connecting, but she was actually dancing with her husband
who had passed beautifully while she was still alive. But
her soul, her spirit was doing other things. And this

(01:03:06):
forgetfulness was either trying to forget trauma in her life,
could be even past lives trauma, and that was what
this was about. What was your experience with that? Like,
have you come across a lot of that and does
that make sense to you what I just said.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Yes, I've had other similar experiences, both people with Alzheimer's
and then people that were just in other states of transitioning. Yeah, people, yes, yeah,
that as well. And it has informed me more on
the idea that consciousness is limitless and we are so
bound by breath and body, but our consciousness is always everywhere.

(01:03:49):
Right now, my consciousness and my spirit is also in
soul form. And actually I asked my dad once in meditation,
who greeted you when you passed? Because I wanted to know,
and he said to me, you did, which made no
sense to me in the moment. I wouldn't have invented that,
because what do you mean I did. I'm here in
a body, but we aren't only in the body. Our

(01:04:11):
consciousness is like this, and so we are also always
in soul form. But when you're in coma, when you
have Alzheimer's. While I don't have the full scientific understanding,
my impression is that our consciousness, those boundaries of consciousness
are less tight, and so we're able to have more

(01:04:34):
awareness of the other parts of ourselves that aren't only
sucked into this body and in this moment and in
this physical space. We are not only human. And it's
not that will eventually be a soul. No, we're already
a soul having soul experiences. I greeted my soul greeded

(01:04:56):
my dad when he died. I didn't have awareness of
that in my physical consciousness, but I absolutely fully believe it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
So the from your experience working with end of life
and your mediumship abilities, what are the stages of people dying?
Meaning like I've heard there's multiple stages, Like if it's
something that's obviously not an accident, but something that's a
prolonged like we're dying, it's going to be a few
weeks that there are stages in that process where loved

(01:05:28):
ones come and pets come, and certain things kind of
preparing the soul to leave this reality to go to
the next one. What is what's your experience with that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
I'm going to speak to it more from a spiritual perspective,
because while I have some training in the end of
life stages, but I don't have a nursing or.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Medical back talking about it from the spiritual.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
So from the spiritual, from the spiritual perspective, when we're
in that state, when our our body is sort of
doing a slow transition to physical death, our soul is
doing the same thing, a slow transition toward that full
awakening of being out of body, and at times we're

(01:06:18):
going back and forth. It is very common, and I
experienced this even with my dad, where our loved one
that is passing might have a moment where they're speaking
about a moment in their life that was decades prior,
but you feel it they're living it. So as an example,

(01:06:40):
when my dad was passing, there was a moment when
all of a sudden his voice changed and I hadn't
heard that voice since nineteen eighty four, and he was
back on the Air Force bace in Germany, and he
was talking about the mess hall and the chicken being
so good and how they cleaned it up in record time.
But he was talking to me like I'm with him

(01:07:02):
in the experience. While he probably didn't have a recognition
of me, as his daughter is Amber. Whoever I was
that he was talking to, It wasn't me in this
in this moment as Amber his daughter. And I just
played along, and I would suggest to listeners they do
the same thing if you're with somebody that is passing,
because it's a way of honoring their soul's transition. Just

(01:07:24):
be with them in the moment that they're in. And
so I told him, yeah, that chicken must have been great,
and then he you know, laughed, and he was talking
about again how they cleaned it up in record time,
and eventually you saw him kind of I saw him
kind of snap out of it, and I said, that
was a beautiful story, dad, And he actually looked at

(01:07:45):
me funny, like, Dad, who are you? And I could
see it on his face and in the expression he
was confused, but it just it didn't matter. He didn't care,
and he just kind of went back to his unconscious state.
So our soul is making these transitions. It might be
revisiting parts in our lives. He also talked about packing

(01:08:07):
a suitcase and having a ticket ready for his journey.
He talked about that also before he finally really stopped speaking.
So there's a piece there. We hear from people that
have had really profound share death experiences. We hear of
loved ones communicating obviously about people that are physically there

(01:08:29):
to take them home. And they'll talk about that. Believe
them because it's real and that is happening.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
So when they're saying like, you know, uncle Bob's here
to take me, yeah, and you're like, okay, she's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Yeah, no, absolutely, And to me, a part of the
evidence for that was that mediumship session I had with
the woman with Alzheimer's. Her brother told me literally, I'm
here to take her home, and the evidence was proof
in how he showed himself to me. I couldn't deny
that that client had a family photo that she showed

(01:09:06):
me with him parading around like his sister in those
little high heels with all the shopping bigs. We can't
make this up. So these experiences inform what's happening for
us at the soul level way more than what meets.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
The eye for people watching and listening who want to
connect with a loved one on the other side and
hasn't been blessed with the opportunity that you've been been
blessed with with visibility that we all have. It's just
some are open to it are some of it gets open,
some of it doesn't. How would you what would you

(01:09:43):
be your advice to them who are like desperately wanting
to connect with their mom, their dad, their husbands. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Before I answer that, I feel strongly nudged to go
back and add a detail. And I'm feeling nudged from
spirit go for it because we talked about people that
are having a natural dying process. But I'm being nudged.
There are listeners right now that are going, well, I'm
worried about my loved one. They didn't have that natural
dying process. They died of tragedy car accent. What might

(01:10:13):
have you? And I'm being reminded to share and say
in those moments as well, we are either helped.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
And it's not helped to the other side because of
sadness from the person passing or fear, and I'm being
guided in this moment to share this. It's help in
the sense of helping that passing person's awareness, understand what's

(01:10:55):
happening to them, welcoming them and enveloping them in love
and light. And I'm being given an example that I
would not remember until this moment of very brief a
mediumship session in which a woman died tragically in a
car accident and it was immediate, she was hit out

(01:11:17):
of nowhere, didn't even see it coming. She helped me
feel this this was her evidence as a part of
her connection, and her daughter was so worried. You know
what did my mom think? Was she okay?

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Because she didn't have any of this natural process, and
that woman in this session helped me feel that everything
was okay for her. It was like being there and
then all of a sudden being in the beyond, but
she was welcomed and helped to expand her understanding of
what was going on. So I just want to offer

(01:11:52):
that because not everyone has that sacred kind of more
sacred transession process. Wrong that, yeah, So I just want
to offer that. But back to your question, what can
people do to connect with their loved ones that don't
have this type of abilities. If you will, yeah, I

(01:12:14):
mean my experiences were very much extra to say the
least one. There's a piece of this of having the
understanding and just developing your own knowing that you are not.
We experience the world through the way that our biology allows.

(01:12:38):
It doesn't mean that's all there is. Every living thing
in this world is limited by what their biology allows
them to experience. There are insects that see colors that
we don't dogs listen to, right, and so our reality
is defined by our biology. So knowing that can provide
comfort in the sense that you are you're limited by

(01:13:02):
what you're able to experience. Yes, yes, So with that
in allowing yourself to be more open because of that
to things that might not be your typical way of seeing, believing, feeling,
we have to allow ourselves the awareness to notice what

(01:13:23):
is being presented to us. I hear from people all
the time that will say I don't get signs from
my loved ones and they're devastated. I'll meet with people
for free just to talk to them about that because
it matters so much. And I'll start to ask, well,
what do you think you've experienced, and then they'll start

(01:13:43):
to say, well, you know, sometimes when I'm sleeping at night,
I feel like the hair is standing up on the
back of my head, or it almost feels like my
neck is being tickled. And they'll go on and on
and give these experience and I look at them and
I'll say, let the love in. Love in, that is
your loved one. But you have to be willing to

(01:14:07):
let the love in. So there are there are sometimes
when we're we are experiencing signs and things, we're just
shoving it aside and we're saying no to it because
it might not be the voice in the head, it
might not be the very thing that you asked for,

(01:14:29):
but we can experience connection with our loved one. You've
got to let the love in. Also, starting a journey
of it doesn't even have to be meditation. Not everybody
loves meditation, but finding a journey that brings you into

(01:14:49):
full presence is really important for some people. That can
be dancing. For me, while I do meditate, I really
come into full presence in my mostly when I'm out
hiking by myself in nature. And then once I'm in
that sense of full presence, then you just sit in
the stillness and then ask ask, when you're in that state,

(01:15:13):
show me that you're really here, and then you have
to be willing to be open and let the love in.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
That's beautiful. One other thing I wanted to ask you
in regards to your loved ones in dreams, they do
come to your dreams. I've had many multiple dreams with
my grandparents and loved ones on the other side. What's
your experience with that? Have you had any experience with
it yourself with your clients, and how can we connect

(01:15:41):
more through that?

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
I love that you asked that. I definitely had in
the beginning a lot of dream visitations with my dad,
but there would be a quality where I knew it
was a visitation versus just a dream. But I actually
had a moment where I was told I don't even
know from who, from some higher being that was supporting
both my dad and I and our connection process, ask

(01:16:04):
him to visit you in your dreams. And I thought
that was interesting. Once I asked. Then I started having them,
and in one meditation moment, he told me you're really
hard to work through. It's like I could see, it
was like he was showing me sorting through the weeds
in my dreams. I've also had the understanding that I

(01:16:27):
think our loved ones and dreams will visit us more
than we remember. And when he said that to me,
it came with the knowing of I am visiting you
in your dreams. I'm trying to make you remember them,
is more what the case was. But yes, our loved
ones absolutely visit us in dreams. And another great place

(01:16:50):
is in that in between state of dreaming and wakefulness.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
You're not fully awakening, you're not fully asleep.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
And that's also a place where in my early journey
I was experiencing connections with loved ones in my sphere.
I even had a gentleman who was so fun He
showed me the fridge opening. I was in this dream
like not quite dreaming but not quite awake state, and
he made a joke and he said, tell my daughter,

(01:17:23):
don't drink my special juice. So I reached out to
her and I told her this, And not only was
it so joyous and funny, but also highly evidential. He
used to concoct up this special drink that was part alcohol,

(01:17:44):
part juices, and he would tell his daughter, don't drink
my special juice and they would fight over it as adults,
this special drink in the fridge. So how can we
become more aware of that? The key is mindfulness and
being more present in your everyday life. Our thoughts are

(01:18:07):
constantly how many of us are running from here to there,
and our thoughts are like this, they're going everywhere. We
have to bring ourselves inward into the present moment. It
allows us to be aware, aware of more of what's
right here now.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
I wanted to ask you this because I have a
feeling something's nudging me. I don't know what, but something's
nudging me to ask you this. You're a really great
example of someone who was raised in a certain religion.
I had a certain amount of dogma attached to that religion,
and then now you've transitioned into this more open idea

(01:18:45):
of the universe. But there are many people watching right
now who are on that brink, the brink of a
this is the Devil's work or I think I want
to go. I want to open myself up to this.
What she's saying makes sense, What Alex is saying is
makes sense. And I've been kind of toying with this

(01:19:06):
idea of like this other religion path that I've been
given isn't feeding me the way it should be spiritually.
And I'm curious, but I'm scared. What advice do you
have for someone who's on the brink of like, Okay,
am I gonna go to Hell if I do this?

(01:19:26):
Is this truly the devil's work kind of vibe? Because
that's and I'm using religion as a general statement, but
from our point of view as a Catholic, I mean,
this is the devil's work, no question about it, you know,
and other religions we look at it very similarly. But
I'm just curious what advice would you have for them?

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
I love that question. Thank you for asking. It wasn't
hard for me because I did make that transition. And
I will also say that I just I trust my heart,
and there is a point when certain things stop making
sense to my heart. And in particular, it was the

(01:20:04):
idea that some people are worthy, some people are damned,
some people belong in heaven. Other people because simply they
grew up in this culture, don't belong that. It's not
even that I didn't like it. It didn't make sense
to my heart.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
Right, We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
And you know, I traveled the world and I'd work
with people of all cultures and I felt the human
to human connection. So for me, it was me just
being aligned with myself and my heart and what I felt.
But on one hand, I would say to listeners, do

(01:20:57):
the same for yourself. What really feels true and right
in your heart, whatever that is. First of all, if
it's if it is giving you and feeding you some
type of love, whether that's to stay on your religious
path or to kind of expand your view more, follow that,

(01:21:18):
because following love is following your alignment with your truest self.
That's number one. But number two, this is not an
either or. It's not an either or, it's a both.
And you don't have to give up something entirely to
expand the way that you view love. It's not any

(01:21:41):
It doesn't have to be in either or. It's a both.
And I've experienced moments of Jesus in my connection, and
not because I was seeking that from a religious point
of view, because it just happened that. But that doesn't
take me away at all from the other knowing that
I've developed from my spiritual experiences experiences, which is that

(01:22:06):
every single one of us is already divine, already whole,
already worthy. Everyone, So I can I have more of
in some ways a relationship with in some ways a
traditional God and Jesus than I have in decades. Isn't

(01:22:31):
that interesting? And it's not because I'm following the path
of what other people might have been telling me. It's
because I'm following my heart and what feels real and true.
And what feels real and true is that everything is
both and and all there is is love, and you

(01:22:51):
are loved, and every single person is loved. It does
not matter from which system, cultural faith, or social conditioning,
or even how good a bad or a person. There
everyone is worthy, everyone is divine, everyone is whole. And
if there is something that is founded in Jesus, to me,

(01:23:12):
it's that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
Yes, that is it, Yes absolute Preach, sister preach, it's
and you know, from my own personal journey, I have
a much deeper relationship with Jesus than I ever did
as a Catholic because it's just it's more pure. There's
not much that the garbage, the mud that you were

(01:23:33):
talking about. It's a lot of that stuff that's been
tossed on on poor Jesus and his teachings, and now
I feel much more connected with him. And that opened
me up to so many different different pathways to learn
and grow and stuff. But it doesn't have to be
either or no.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
And it's very freeing, oh, very very freeing to just
sit in the truth of your heart.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
So for someone who's watching right now and going along
the same path as that last question, people are watching
right now who are curious, because if you're watching this
and they've been this long in this conversation, they're curious
but still skeptical about this whole mediumship thing. What can
you say to those people, I'm sure you've run into this.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Oh absolutely yeah, and with total non judgment, I one
hundred percent get it. I mean it's kind of crazy.
So I really understand. I'm not here to convince you
or anybody. I'm here to live aligned with myself, my truth,
my inner knowing, and to do so in a way

(01:24:40):
that inspires greater love in the world. And so if
you're skeptical, that is absolutely fine. Seek to have your
own experience, but you need to do it with an
open heart and an open mind. That doesn't mean being
willing to be true or trying to you know, what's

(01:25:04):
the word I'm looking for. We're not going to approach
it with sort of uh, yeah, go ahead and fool me.
Expect if you go to seek your own experience, expect
real evidence, Expect things that someone could not just objectively know.
But I've also had had direct experiences of you. Most

(01:25:26):
of the time, you get what you're ready for. If
you sit with a medium, you get what you're ready
for most of the time. There are times when spirit
will you know, hit you with everything they have because
there's a real a reason for that to happen for you,
But most of the time you get what your consciousness

(01:25:47):
is ready for. As I as a medium, have also
had to learn to be okay with that, because sometimes
I can sit with someone and have amazing evidence and
they might walk away and go that was an interesting
and you know what. I went to a meeting once
in two thousand and eleven that was me. I had
amazing evidence from the medium, and I walked away going,

(01:26:07):
that was interesting. Yeah, I don't know if she could
really know that, but it didn't hit me in the
same way that it would now. And that's okay. So
it's okay, you get what you're ready for, go in
it with an open heart, though, and an open mind
as a learner and a seeker.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
So in your work, in your line of work, we've
been talking about these kind of beautiful transitions and even
traumatic ones but still positive if you will, transitions on
the other side, but these kind of longer death runways,
if we call them. Not everybody is going to be

(01:26:47):
a loving relationship with their dad. They might have a
lot of baggage with that dad or a lot of
baggage with that mom. They might have been abusive, they've
been a traumatic. Has your work have you seen any
stories of a traumatic scenario where a father or mother
is dying and the child is angry at them and
the work has created a healing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Yeah. Well, I want to first in transparency, say, my
relationship with my dad was not always great. We had
some family struggles when I was a child, and there
was a lot of healing that was needed, and that
healing was provided to me through all my experiences with him.
So I actually empathize and get that. And the reason

(01:27:34):
I share that is because it's one of the things
that I think in part I'm here for as a medium.
Because of my difficult experiences and all the healing that
occurred from that, I am really accurately able to feel
in mediumship those really complex, yucky things and able to

(01:27:56):
really pass along that person in spirits you in now intentions, apologies,
and what they want to share about their why specifically
from spirit. And I think my own personal experiences have
led me to be able to do that well. For
those that have these have had these traumatic moments with

(01:28:20):
their family members, It's also something that I think you
have to be you know, I would ask are you
ready for healing? Do you do you really want to
hear the healing message? Are you willing and able and
open to experience that healing message? I'll never forget. In

(01:28:42):
the early part of my journey, I had a wonderful
lesson where I had a client. Her brother was with me,
and her brother showed me specifically the way in which
he abused his sister, and I shared it with very
delicate words. Because I have a lot of care and

(01:29:04):
concern with the client's heart, the same as I am
for this person in spirit. I'm very conscious of how
my client might experience something by the way I say it,
and as I relayed that to her, I kind of
saw her recoil. She confirmed that that was true, and
then he actually said to me, I'm holding back until

(01:29:27):
she's ready to hear my apology. And in the sentiment
from him was one of great love. It wasn't I'm
not saying anything until she's ready. It wasn't that, And
I was able to relay that to her, and just
the fact that he heard her him, I'm sorry, honor.

(01:29:51):
Where she was at was healing in itself, and he
was right. She didn't want to hear an apology. She
wanted to still be angry and mad, and that's okay.
But simply him saying that gave her validation of her feelings,
which he hadn't done in life.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
So we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
There's so many instances of honoring not only the spirits
the person in spirit's journey in spirit, but also the
client's journey. And most common the client is ready and
can't wait to hear that healing communication from their loved
one in spirit, and the loved one in spirit can't

(01:30:41):
wait to provide that healing communication. But when the client's
not ready, that also comes across in mediumship and that's.

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
Okay too, And you have to kind of dance that long.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
Yeah, you do, and it's okay. Everything is there to
serve you as a step forward on your path where
ever you are.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
And sometimes it's okay to be angry. Yeah, And when
the time is right, absolutely you'll let go.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
Yeah, because if you're angry and you're like your brother
really says he's sorry, Like, I don't want to hear that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
Absolutely, I don't want to hear that. Yeah. And it
was actually so beautiful because he wanted to valid That
was healing in and of itself, just him saying I'm
not going to fully connect until she's ready. That was
a healing moment for her.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
Rember. Where can people find out more about you and
the amazing work you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
Yeah, thanks for asking. My website is www dot Nature'swayopen
dot com and pretty much on all the standard social
media's YouTube, Facebook, Instagram at Nature's Way Open.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
And if you could leave the listeners with one message
from spirit today, what would that be?

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
Well, what I already shared, but it's the most important.
You are already divine, already whole, and already worthy. You
don't have to prove yourself to anyone or anything at all.
You are loved.

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
Thank you so much for being here. This is such
a beautiful conversation, beautiful story, and hopefully it will be
healing for people watching us.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
Thanks very much.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
I appreciate you and what you're doing to waken. Thank you,
Thank you. I'd like to thank Amber so much for
coming on the show and sharing her knowledge and wisdom
with all of us. If you want to get links
to anything we spoke about in this episode, head over
to the show notes at Next levelsoul dot com forward
slash six three zero. Now. If this conversation stirred something
in you, there's more waiting. You can listen to this

(01:32:35):
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(01:32:56):
Thank you so much for listening. As I always say,
trust the journey. It's there to teach you. I'll see
you next time.

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