NLS 645: Channeling Ascended Master Djwhal Khul with Janet Treloar

Janet Treloar discusses her channeling of Zacharia, an aspect of the ascended master Djwhal Khul, who embodies a light-hearted, relatable persona. Janet shares her personal journey of illness and recovery, which led to a shift in her channeling methods to a more heart-centered approach.

Zacharia emphasizes embracing life's mysteries, focusing on heart's desire, and releasing collective fear to anchor more light. He highlights the current energetic shifts on Earth influenced by the three eye Atlas, predicting a future of increased collaboration, creativity, and heart-led innovation. Janet encourages self-awareness, kindness, and being human to embody one's divine essence.

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Now let's dive into today's episode. I like to welcome

(01:32):
to the show, Janet. Your look. How you doing, Janet?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Hi, I'm great, Thank you, really really pleased to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Oh, thank you so much for being here. I've been
a fan of what you've been doing for a little
bit now, and we're very excited to have you in
the show because we've had a lot of channels on
the show, and but you channel of very interesting and being.
His name is zach but he is Can you explain
he's he's part of draw Cool, he is sending Master

(02:01):
Draucle Can you explain that?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Probably a good thing I do because people used to
ask me, and I came up with this term that
he is an aspect of dwell call. But that does
make it sound like his you know, sort of like
his his thumb or something is like a part of him.
Zachariah himself. It's a life that he lived. The persona
let's put it this way. So the entity, the energy

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that he is the higher consciousness is dwell call and
it's probably quite a lot.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Of others as well.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
He chooses to package it for us as this being Zachariah.
His full title that he gives himself is Zacharia of Syria.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
But as he always says, you're not.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Going to find him in any particular books or anything.
It was a really really gorgeous life that he lived,
really close to the earth, really part of humanity, like community,
and so he projects this persona which also so I
think the thing that's slightly different about zach is he

(03:04):
wants to appear to be like you, mate. He wants
to have a chat with you. He wants you to
be able to not think, oh I can't ask this
question or that question. It's not elevated, it's it's not
this or that enough. He loves it to be able
to just be able to shoot the breeze. And a
lot of his way of working I've found is also

(03:27):
as is talking. There's certain things he will be, of
course very serious, but there's a lightheartedness and he'll make
little jokes and things to get people laughing and opening
up the heart. So he has come through We've asked
him to come through as dwell Call, and it's really
interesting because the message is the same, but it's a

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lot more well, I would use the word serious. It's
quite direct, it's succinct, and it's of its time. Of course,
dwell Call was like we all are a product of
their time time as well. So yeah, it's good to
clear that up actually, because I call him an aspect
for actually he is dwell Call, but it's also all
the other incarnations and other beings that he is all

(04:12):
coming through in this little Sakaraia package.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
So it would be kind of like Zacharai was a
past life of drug call, is what you're saying. So
it would be like if I was a Roman soldier
with who drank a lot and smoked cigars, as I
assume Roman soldiers did back then, and he'd be very griff.
That would be the personality of the person that I

(04:37):
would be channeling for my higher self. He's just that's
why I chose kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, yeah, I mean we didn't really know why zach
did it for a long time until people ask It's
like everything, you've got to have the right question, don't you.
And when people asked, we suddenly started realizing what he
was doing, because as a channel, I would bring through
whatever most compatible higher vibrational energy for the questions that

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people were asking. So we would have all these beautiful
high beings from all sorts of different types of realms.
But he really came forward when it was asked for
an energy or a higher being to come forward.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
That could ask pretty much answer anything.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
So it was like he's like this voice box for
the universe, I always think, and you know, he talk
whether he's talking to people experts on their particular fields,
he seems to be able to just sort of slot
straight in with whatever they're actually talking about, whilstive still
keeping this sort of quite lighthearted persona that he has too.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Now you're you had you were sick for a little while, correct,
and during that time there was there was an illness
and you had to kind of go into an inner
journey at that point. Did you lose your ability to
channel during that time?

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Lose is an interesting word?

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Okay, yeah, because and yeah, this is this is probably
hopefully quite useful for people as well that might be
going through a similar thing the way the energies are.
We all know what's going on at the moment, I mean,
amped up to the max what is actually happening in
the world and the energy, and it is sort of

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forcing different parts, almost revisiting different parts of us to
move through. And I pretty much not in an arrogant way,
but sort of thought, I've really worked on this.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
I've worked on my stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
I've worked on energy staff for decades and decades and decades,
and was in what I felt was a really nice
groove with everything that I was doing, and then I
got really sick. Now, the sickness really affected my nervous
system on a physical level. And something that I've really
learned from all of this is how the energy is

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the perceived sort of invisible energies and the higher vibrations,
and particularly when you're channeling, come through. One of the
ways that it sort of formulates and moves so into
the physical being is through the nervous system. Initially, I
tried to sort of keep going and tried to do things,
and I was doing all the energy stuff that I

(07:19):
was doing, but actually I just got sicker and sicker
and sicker. And I mean, I'll probably write a book
in the future. I'm still researching it. This whole change
in our nervous system because our nervous system has gone
through a massive upgrade or evlate a zachism. He has
his own words evolate through it. And for me personally,

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I mean, well four years four years, I was really
sort of poorly, but it was after a little while
I could actually channel again. So what I actually found
was actually the channeling was making me worse.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
I had to really pull back.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
I was a complete nutter outer body trance medium, and
I had all of these protocols and safety ways of
actually doing things, but I completely and utterly let One
of the reasons why having Zach as well was sort
of this compatibility with my body, and so he could
come in and I mean he would literally be all

(08:20):
the way through me and I was out, completely out
with the nervous system as it was, It's a bit
like putting things on frayed edges, you know, like if
you know, the electrics are blown and then you're pulsing
this crazy energy while you're trying to heal it. So
when I did start channeling again, Zack and I found

(08:42):
a new way to channel, which was actually like a
heart transmission. So he was going through and actually doing
straight heart transmission, and now it's more of a four embodied.
So I'm still trance. I just don't go completely out.
So it's a lesson for me as well about owning
and being myself and not going here you go, here's

(09:03):
my body, here's my consciousness. You have it all, you
take over, and I'll just sit in my meadow making
daisy chains and just listening and just carrying on. So
this is like a real amalgamation of us. He still
sounds the same. A lot of people knew Zach, and
I think he uses the same voice, and there is

(09:24):
resonance in the voice as well, which is to do
with the energy transmission. But it's interesting. So I wouldn't
say I ever lost it. But what I needed to
have was move through knowledge into wisdom and then not
just have the wisdom, but actually put it into effect,
to take a step back and to do something completely different,

(09:47):
to actually go all the things I've learned, all the
things I think I know, I've actually got to put
it to one side and be open to this completely
and utterly new way of being. My body is completely different,
and so my energy is completely different.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
So Zach is still Zach.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
I'm me, but I'm sort of me point two point
three whatever we would like.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
We all do through life.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
We're always were ever changing, aren't we We're always were
ever changing.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
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and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
And I mean the times we're living in now it's massive,
So I needed to be back. He needed to push
me back at this moment. I think, whilst coming up
to the end of the year, loads is going on, and.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
We'll definitely talk about that in a little bit. But
so what I've find fascinating is so you started channeling
and then your nervous system wasn't prepped for it essentially,
or was it was coming in too much.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
So I actually trained as a chance medium way back
in my early twenties. I was taught media from the
age of twelve, and you know, I'm not of these
younger generations. I'm an older generation where at that time
people still sort of hailed the trance medium and the

(11:13):
energy was different, so you really did have to have
a natural affinity. I didn't want to have that affinity.
I really wanted to I trained purely with the idea
of let's discipline it so I can sort of put
it in a box, and then I can go out
partying with my friends, and I can go and live
my life and do these things. When I was sort

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of focused upon as you are a trance medium and
we need to train you and discipline you how to
actually do this, I never thought I would be working
in it. However, I did become very aware of what
I needed to do with my energy system because the
supernatural was so much more my world than the natural world.

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It was like my default was to go into these
other realms, and I really didn't want to. I just
wanted to be growing up this normal kid, teenager. I
was working in the city in London from the age
of sixteen, so I just wanted to really, I just
wanted to be a kid, you know. I wanted to
grow up young adult and just do what I was
actually doing. I always kept aware, though, of this discipline,

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the energy management meditation that had been taught to me,
because it seemed to be if I could keep myself
in check and I could keep the energies in check,
I would go into things. But it was something that
was quite embarrassed of, and so i'd really really keep
it in check. And then later on I trained in
lots and lots of different fields, worked on myself all
the stuff that we do, and then I came back

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to it. But I'd actually been channeling and channeling very healthily,
and it become I'd actually moved away from therapy and
teaching everything I did because the channeling was such a
big thing everyone wanted. It was before we doing really
much on what it was Skype, then before Zoom or
anything like that, so people would come in from all

(13:05):
over the place and have these amazing sessions and doing workshops.
When I got sick, though, I didn't realize what actually
actually happened to me. I got very very sick with
the nerve agents and different stuff that was actually going on,
and it really broke down on a physical level. I

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was always looking at things from an energy level, and
I used to I was a right gym buddy. I'd
go to the gym almost every day and keep myself
really healthy. But where it actually broke everything down what
I discovered for me at that time. In hindsight, I
just wish I'd discovered it sooner. I was doing everything
energetic to actually help myself. But and like I said,
it's like this freyed system. I needed to heal that,

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and that's taken a long time. So it wasn't so
much that the channeling I wasn't prepped for it, but
I was. You know, it's when you're really really injured.
I was so close to going to being off this
mortal coreal. I bear to think how close I actually was.
You know, my husband, no one thought I was going
to make it at all for quite some time. So

(14:10):
as I've rebuilt, a big part of my intention is
to also have the resilience and to actually heal.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
I mean, Zach does say my nervous.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
System is actually completely and utterly changed. He said to someone,
you know, if you cut me open, lightwid sort of
come flooding out. But we're not quite at that frequency
yet where it's actually going to be comfortable, so it
can be a lot that's actually.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Going through me there as well.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
I do think a lot of people have gone through
it though, whether it's through illness, injury, whatever it might be.
I went through spiritual emergency when I was a kid,
which was which is one of the reasons why they
trained me from the age of twelve, because it's really
early when my whole energy system shattered. So where I'd
really built up my energy system, this time my nervous
system shattered. But it has taught me a great amount,

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not always the way.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Sometimes you got to go through the tough stuff in
order to learn and to grow. So it wasn't as
much the channeling, because I've heard that from so many
channels that a lot of times they have to kind
of ramp their nervous system up to handle the energy
that comes through. But that didn't seem to be the problem.
It was your extracurricular activities that were killing you. It
was too much energy work that was kind of pumping in.

(15:22):
So you were solid at a one twenty vault, but
you were pumping into forty three, sixty four eighty, adding
on other things that weren't channeling, and that's what fried you.
And then when you were fried, channeling is like it's
kind of like when you break when you break an ankle,
any kind of walking, it's you're stopping the healing. You
got to stop before you could walk again. So that's

(15:44):
exactly what happened to you.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Okay, I'm a huge fan of the energy healing, of
energy vibrational medicines, everything that I was doing was making
me ten times one hundred times illaugh. It was it
was this complete mind confusion of what the hell is
going on here? But as you said, yeah, it was
like I was plugged in on so many different levels

(16:07):
and so much stuff going on and everything. I mean,
I couldn't actually get my heart rate under one hundred
and twenty for over eighteen months. I lost like five
stone in I think it was like six months. I mean,
there was everything just all the systems of my body
did not work. Everything was going counter against each other.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
But times are different.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Now, times you seem fine, You see fine, that's good, good, good,
So Kit, I mean, we've been talking about Zach. Can
we bring Zack in for a handful of conversation, for
a conversation. I'm very fat, I'm very eager to have
a conversation with him.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Oh, trust me, I can feel him on his shoulder.
This is why I'm a bit sort of hyper, because
I know I can feel him.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
I'm like, come on.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Seriously, wait your turn. I'm just going to keep so
get some of my hair back, because otherwise you just
get this sort of panel of hair going on.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Welcome, my dear, Well, we're good.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Thank you, zach I, thank you for being here, my friend.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Hmm hah. Yes, you have some very on point questions.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Haha. Do begin to begin? Where would you like to begin?

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yes, you have to speak about life as a mystery
to be embraced rather than solved. How can we learn
to live in that mystery with peace rather than fear?

Speaker 2 (17:33):
First of all, it is good to remember the best
thing about human life is a mystery. And of course
we understand that people say no, no, no, but I
want to know what's coming. I want to know where
will I be in five years, ten years.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Even tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
However, by embracing the mystery, you open up far more potentials,
far more potentials for the wonder to come into life.
If you think your normal set of ideas what is
going to come tomorrow and so forth, you have a

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very limited view of really there are expansion in life?
What can really be now? It is natural, particularly to
do with life experiences. Everybody goes through all sorts of
hurdles as they go up and move into adulthood and

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so forth, that there can be elements of fear when
the word of mystery is put into the mix, the
fear of the unknown, of course, is a very regular
topic of conversation for people. However, when we move in

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to the space of our deepest knowings, and this isn't
just within your heart or in your gut, it is
within your whole cellular structure, the physical as well as
the energetic, communicating all as one with each other, then

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you can direct the mystery. Ah a paradox it sounds.
The intention for this is by going in and being
open hutted, our open mind open in terms of your energy,
to allowing the beauty of the universe to materialize within

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the mystery.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Of your own life.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Then you start moving into the higher vibrations of wonder,
of joy.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Of bliss.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Then you start to attract this into your life. Does
not mean to say you will not have the normal
every day ups and downs, as that is what life
is all about, to experience, to experience the heights and
the laws, to be able to navigate the full collidoscope

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of emotions.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
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Speaker 2 (20:28):
And when fear starts to come in in terms of
the mystery, remind yourself that there is always wander around
every corner, and should you wish in your heart's desire
to embrace that, then you can let go of the
fear and actually embrace instead the mystery and know that

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as you wander the lanes wonder, as you imagine and
manifest your life into being along with all the loved
ones and others that are around you, you then start
to feel, as we all do when we look to
humanity and our fans of humanity, that actually the mystery

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brings the greatest of experiences in life. Why would you
really want to know exactly what is coming when you
can manifest something better than what limited thinking based on
life experiences of the past may bring. Understand Yes, my dear, haha.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yes, yes, yes. My next question is how do you
define the purpose of human suffering within the greater fabric
of the soul's evolution.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
It has often been said by wise souls, and often
not so why souls as way, that the root of
all is in suffering, that suffering is a part always
of life, and it is through suffering the greatest of
experiences come. We would like to suggest people to rethink

(22:09):
this for the time they're living now. The energy upon
your planet and indeed your whole solar system has been
evlating to such a degree frequency layer upon layer, and
of course this particular time you are living in is
a time of great heart transcendence, a new era of light.

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Within this you have moved up out of the depths
of the deepest levels of suffering, where suffering is a
priority of human experience to gain experience.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Everybody has lived so many lives.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
You know, you can walk along the street and you
will not bump into another person who is a brand
new soul. There's only a few of them here. Everybody
has lived so many different lives, hundreds even thousands, whether
it be on this planet or others as well, that
they have a level of spiritual maturity now to be

(23:13):
able to gain experience through heart desire. Hearts desire has
become the priority. And this heart's desire may involve because
you are living on a world that still has polarity
and nature and experience some levels of suffering. However, it

(23:37):
is not the priority anymore. Through suffering. There is much,
of course, that can be gained and learned, often with hindsight. Afterwards,
we would encourage people instead to look to hear's desire,
to say, the time of suffering and moving through it

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is past. It is something all my other lives have done,
My future lives have been living in times of heart's desire.
That is what I will connect with. That is where
I will actually be. And when we do come across suffering,
to intend to move through it swiftly, with ease and
with grace, and of course to emit and respond with

(24:26):
kindness and compassion to all those who are in the
midst of suffering. It is not that they have not
evilated themselves, simply for whatever reason they are going through
this particular thing. The collective energy, the collaborative energy of
others can help to lift others out of suffering. So

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it is what you can actually do with all the
knowledge you have stalled, yes, from this life, but from
many others as well, to be able to enlighten and
to come to this place of heart's desire instead. Understand, yes, my.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Dear Yes, Now, how can we learn to listen more
clearly to our own higher guidance in everyday life?

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Now?

Speaker 2 (25:10):
That is the billion dollar question, is it not? Haha?
We look at people all over the world and you know,
being tapped on the shoulder, not only by their own
soul and the higher selves, but the wisdom of their
helpers and guides, and time and time.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Again, they din't go off.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
And they said to their friends and loved ones, I
just wish I had a sign. And everyone in the
background is saying, but we've given them twenty thirty fifty already.
It is about being present. It is one thing to
connect and to be able to know and to listen.

(25:53):
It is another to be aware. Okay, So what awareness
needs is good listening skill. And we are talking about this,
and not just with the hearing, but with the knowing,
the herd knowing inside and the presence. This presence could
be just a simple habit of taking a little bit

(26:14):
of time out a few minutes. Some people may need
a lot longer. Other people are quite content with just
a few minutes every day when they become present, present
with themselves, when they truly listen and a little trick
of the trade ha ha. Something we can tell you
to do is to then become mindful of what your

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intention is yes be present and to ask what is
it that my heart self is looking to share with
me at this time. But you can be very specific
as well, particularly if you have been looking.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
To an answer for something.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
When you are in that present state, when you are
listening to yourself, then the answers come, yes from the
heartspe but it is communicated through the rest of you.
Some people will get this in a visual way, or
this in a feeling way. It can come in many
many different ways, and many will get simply that good

(27:13):
in a knowing voice from within. There is nobody on
this planet at this time, and this is a very
important point because it has changed over the years. Nobody
of on this planet at this time who does not
have the ability to hear their own higher self to

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listen to have presence and when.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Would say the higher self.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
This is really the bridge between you as your personality, self,
your soul, and the wisdom of the ages, the wisdom.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Of the universe.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
You are a past, a fractal of everything within this universe,
and therefore you have access. It is like having a
library ticket to the library of everything. And therefore, within presence,
you are not just listening to yourself. You are listening
to what is actually coming to you, the wisdom, the knowledge,

(28:08):
the on site from the entirety of the universe. So
it is not that you have to do something very
very specific but you do have to have a habit.
You need to actually get into a state of being
where you can be present for yourself. If you are
too busy, you may miss out on such things, if

(28:29):
you are rushing around or doing lots of other things.
But actually just taking those moments of presence and trust
your own in a voice. Many people now will hear
this in their own in a voice, and this is
because your own energy is at a higher frequency to
resonate in such a way that you, through your own voice,

(28:51):
can be the voice from the angels, can be the
voice of your higher self, can be.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
The voice of the universe.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Never forget, the whole entire of the universe exists within
your heart, and therefore you are caught the whole universe
and all his multi dimensions and all his wisdom of
the past, the present, and the future. Literally, I would
said your fingertips, but that is too far away. It

(29:18):
is right here within you and communicating through you. If
you want to have a lesson at all, it is
simply about learning your own skills of listening within, because
everybody is unique and everybody will have their own way
of doing this.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Understand Yes, my dear, Yes.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yes, yes, Now, what happens on a soul level when
someone feels stuck in old energy or repetitive patterns.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
It is interesting, yes, because of the particular question what
happens on a soul level? Ha ha. Now the reason
why I laugh is you could say that the soul
goals off, puts its feet up for a little while
and says, I think we might have to wait for
a year or two.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Aha, But this is being a little big glip.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
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and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Now, what the soul knows is that every time, ah,
it chooses to have another experience of incarnation and in incarnation,
whether it is on this planet or others. But let's
stick for our ease to this planet to come here

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to Earth. It knows that it will be tested time
and time again by the universe, almost as if to say,
have you got it yet?

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Have you understood?

Speaker 2 (30:48):
And of course lives will be very very short if
we got it on the very first time, because part
of the wonderful experience of living in life is of
course to try out lots of experiences. It is often
said it is the failures that we learn from far
greater than successes. But your particular question is regarding the

(31:11):
repetitive patterns. This is something that is very very true.
Just as nature repeats a pattern every year with the seasons.
It is different every time, but.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
It is a pattern. It is a cycle.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Everything within your universe is a cycle, and you can
see them everywhere here on earth, and it is the
same with you in these lives, and as a soul,
you will have a cycle of experiences every time you
re engage with those experiences in another life, you could
say you are going upper level, getting a bit more

(31:49):
tricky what you are going to go through. And this
is why the soul can be very very patient. Itgnors
that you are really homing in on all of the
knowledge from the past that you gain from other lives
and from other people and of course from the universe
to engage. However, because you've now come up to a

(32:10):
new level, even in a repeating pattern, you are then
spiraling up and you have to learn a bit like
the state of play learning a new game. You have
to learn what all the moves are like a chess game,
before you can actually engage and actually finally win. So
the soul where you could say is incredibly patient. It

(32:32):
helps along the way with reminders and with nudges and
showing where else you can learn these expertise to overcome
and with encouragement for the fortitude to persist and to
keep going until you come out of the other side.
And there is no one who celebrates more than your
soul when you actually finally put one to bed to

(32:55):
actually get rid of a repeating pattern, and so saying
I am finally done, and the universe then hears this
with its big ears and no longer sends you tests
within that, but the repeating pattern is still going on.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
If you are still.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Getting tests in that particular direction, understand.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yes, yes, yes, Now what is happening energetically on the
planet today right now that is shaping the next wave
of awakening and humanity.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
I am so glad you have asked, Oh, this is
a big one. Is it not blow your socks off,
your hats off, and anything else that may be going
on at this particular time we have I would even
say those who are watching and interesting and engaged and

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helping humanity have reverence. Important word this, do not use
it very often. We have reverence with the experience that
is happening at this very moment even as we speak
a haha. Do you see how well this was organized
for us to be speaking at this particular point in time,
And this will be encoded in the transmission so that

(34:10):
everybody can mask as if some bathing in the energy
talking of the Sun.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
So the solar rays.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
There is a number of elements cosmically celestially you could
call them, that is happening not only between the planets
and far out reaching planets of your solar system and
beyond in your cuboid of the universe.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
With this.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Energy that is being called I think the labeled the
humans have given a three I Atlas is coming in
very good cloth and a bit like you know, poking
the bear, ha ha. The energy is very very gloss
to the Sun, and the Sun is at a point
where it is being driven by very very deep energy

(35:01):
that is putting out a lot of solar rays, a
lot of cosmic energies, galleries and so forth, whilst also
the Earth and indeed everything living upon the Earth is
in a very open state of how do we call it? Well, yes,

(35:22):
it is a bit like everybody's opened up their doors
and their windows and the windows coming in. You know,
it is a largest permissive state of being due to
the electromagnetic energy and other Now you will say, okay,
all of this, yes, yes, yes, these things are happening,
but what does that mean? And this is what we're
coming to the cracks. This is allowing such a powerful

(35:46):
search of energy, of frequency, of plasma energy, electrical energy
that is going deep into the solar plexus and everywhere
else of everything that is living. So you might say,
what the plants and so forth don't have solar plexus.
It is immersing everything with a frequency a bit like

(36:10):
when you are listening to a beautiful classical music concert
or an opera and you get that crescendo that really
really high not and everything stops. This is what is
happening at this point. There is such energy coming through
and even if you are very busy and have no

(36:31):
conscious awareness of it, which majority of the planet will not,
it is coming into being and it is lighting up
literally light. It is light coming in that is moving
up the frequency. And because it is happening to the
planet as well and the energies of the planet, it
is shifting and moving the light so high that everything

(36:55):
is tuning to each other as one, like a big
blast of And what this is doing is it is
sinking up hearts, sinking up hearts all across the planet.
And you might think, well, I do not know if
I want my heart to sync up with all sorts
of people. You might even think of people in your
mind that you think, I don't really want to sync

(37:16):
up with them. It is within the bandwidth that you
are and because of this, this is very comfortable. This
is supportive, supportive of the collective energy, of the collaborative.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Energy we are in now, and this.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Amplifies and it allows energy to lift up. And people
are talking of of course opening up a consciousness. The
consciousness has been opened up for a long time now,
the super conscious, the highways, the self mastery. Where we
are going from this point, and really this has been

(37:50):
building up and things has been going on for particularly
in the month of October, but even from before then.
And we are now moving into the end of the year,
year and beyond where these frequencies because it'd be too much,
you know, everyone to go too much, too much if
they felt it all in one. But the energy is
there and it will start to manifest greater and greater

(38:12):
and greater over the coming months and into the year.
The next year, I head into a new era of creativity,
of innovation, of our invention, but most importantly of heart connection,
heart led pioneers moving into a frontier unknown. And I

(38:36):
I'm aware this is coming across. It's very, very excited.
We had been waiting for this. We have been prepping people,
not just for years or decades, this has been prepped
with humanity for hundreds, you could say, thousands of years. Yes,
there have been lots and lots of other big shifts
along the way and will be afterwards. The timing, however,

(39:00):
of the being the energy the rock let us simply
put it, that is the messenger that is actually being
able to poke ha and make everything happen greater. Is
bringing in an influx of such strong energy and energies

(39:21):
from other supernovas and so forth that it has been
carrying in its tail as it were at its wake.
It's bringing in a new level of plasma energy, but
also energy which can repopulate much of what has been
the resources that are gone, the minerals and so forth
in your planet. So we are very excited because it

(39:41):
is a rebirth really for the planet that is happening.
Understand Yes, I talk much, I talk much keeping up.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yes, yes, absolutely So when three I Atlas gets here
is it going to be? How is it going to
give us this energy? When is it a supposed to
get here? And so on?

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Is here now? Haha?

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Now the reason why I said this, It is on
a very particular trajectory through your solar system, one that
will take in and activate certain other planets within. At
the moment, it is in a very close you could
even call it a communication with your solar with your son.

(40:27):
And then of course eventually it would move closely as
well to the Earth.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Now, in all of this, we have to think in
a way that is so much vaster than the Earth.
When you are living on the Earth and the size
of Earth, we can often think something has to be
very very close by. However, when we are in the
actual giganticness of this universe and the multiverses beyond, all

(41:06):
it needs to be is within the proximity. So the
proximity is in most of the Solar system that you
are having as it is moving at such a pace
and velocity, building up speed a bit like our the
old saying of the boulder moving, you know, and then
it's picking up a you know, pick up all the

(41:29):
debris as it goes, unlike a snowball.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
That is a better way.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Yes, whenever your own herber guides here are saying, use
the analogy of a snowball. You know, you have the
snow and as it stares moving, it picks up, picks.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Up more and more.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
As this has traveled through space, through other parts of
the universe, as it is moved into your cu board
of the universe, it has picked up a lot of
extra energy which is being held around it. And you
could say, I often use the expression a bit like
fairy does. It is being sprinkled into your solar system,

(42:02):
but particularly as it gets closer to Earth, then you
will really get this energy. Now, it is not like
it is going to rain from the sky and everyone
has to put their umbrella upha. This is something that
will happen over time where it is very gradual. As
you know, you are all created your actual physical self
from stardust. It just come from the stars, and this

(42:23):
is an influx of that very rich mineral rich energy
coming through but combined with the plasma, and your world
is learning far more about the state of plasma and
actually how you manifest from the energy state of the

(42:44):
of pure energy into the physical manifestation always moves through
the plasma. So it is here and it is as
soon as it really started to enter. Even when your
nist first started to notice it, you were already starting
to get the benefits. But now that it is moving

(43:06):
in this trajectory all the way through, particularly up until
the twenty fourth of December, and how close of course
that is to the solstice, you will be having this
emission that is coming. So from a personal point of view,
we would very much encourage people to be very very
aware of grounding their energy, very aware of their electrical

(43:27):
magnetic energy, of being mindful to actually look after themselves,
are in their foods and other such things in such a.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Way release a lot.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
You may feel lots of energy for celebration or for movement,
for sport, whatever it may be, a movement as shaking
of energy through you, and then go back to the
grounding of it. The more you can do this, the
more you can naturally infuse yourself with this energy and
be lit up, literally lit up from the insight out,

(44:00):
so that we move into this time of living light
on Earth.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Understand, yes, yes, yes, yes, What do you see for
humanity over the next five years, ten years? Because it's
been a heck of a ride ever since twenty twelve, really,
but it's been ramping up since twenty twenty. So where
do you see? What do you see for humanity in
the next five to ten years.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
First of all, you are living on a planet which
naturally has polarity. It even has pouls, you know, and
you have night and day and all this sort of thing. Therefore,
there is a fairy tale view that everybody will be
skipping around and there will be no war, no suffering,

(44:46):
no anything, and everything will be wonderful. We are moving
in that direction. What we would say, however, is at
more of a realistic pace. Now, what this actually means
is in this year that you are living at this time,
we have moved out of a very very long period

(45:09):
where the priority was destruction energy of a breakdown to
break through, and now the priority, the stronger energy, is
one of creation. Creation was always there, but it was
having such a tussle because the destruction had to take place,
and then this is omitted not just in people's personal

(45:30):
lives and manifesting in that way, but globally and so forth,
the longer people are living in a time of creation
and get used to it, because it does.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
Take a time.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Even with our as we all know, if we have
a very bad habit and on a conscious level we
we want to change it, it still takes a while.
It doesn't go oh, I would just change that. It
takes a while because a habit is there, and you
were all in a habit of being used to distruct energy. Therefore,
the more people embrace the creation energy that comes in,

(46:06):
the more that people say, yes, I have been told
all about lack and destruction, but now what I really
want to focus on is abundance, abundance in all things.
In actually creating, you are creating light. After all, this
goes through as we move into the nature, you'll agually
be seeing people. Do not be surprised if there are

(46:27):
individuals who literally emit light from them. So you are
a source, not just a creation. Everyone has the creation
fire within the sacrel and moving through them. But this
is a source where everything that you do, should you
desire it to be so can move into the greater
creation energy. Now, more people that get used to this,

(46:51):
the more that people start to actually interact with creation energy,
the more that people will see that it is creation energy,
not just for an individual. Yes, you could say you
could look at creation in terms of beauty and art
and people creating wonderful things, and there may be one
person seemingly on the front that is doing it. But

(47:13):
actually the greater experiences of the world of life is
about collaboration. When we can bring creativity into the collaboration,
we are literally creating empathy and compassion within that collaboration
when we see another as we see ourselves, when we

(47:37):
understand someone else's pain, when we understand someone else's desires,
understands other people's points of view, and you get more
of an even playing field, You get more of a
state of being that doesn't heighten the more uncomfortable emotions,
but brings about the lighter and more curious emotions where

(47:59):
people are actually wanting to not just collaborate and enforce
their views on another, but to be open to sharing,
to actually relax. So these next few years we are
seeing that there will be more space for people to
relax and be to be more that presence we were
talking about whilst being in collaborations. If we put aside

(48:20):
fears of what does it actually mean to open my
heart to another, which is something that people have been
going through and moving through, and actually move into a
place where we're excited about collaboration, then you get this amplification,
this battery energy, and everything we've just been speaking of
can really start to move through and to enlighten into

(48:43):
a real golden era, a golden era of change, change
for ecology, for the planet, change for the livelihoods of people,
change for the betterment in terms of how people understand
each other, how people listen to each other. Therefore, what
we would actually say, it's even though of course there

(49:05):
may be a struggles and strife and other such things
that happen in the world, because you know, you are
all human beings having a human experience and moving through things,
we see greater amount of light and sharing that is
coming from the collaboration and the collective forces. But also

(49:25):
this oneness, this sharing, and this great creativity which will
create the pathways that cannot even be imagined at this
time of how this will look so that people are
still feeling incredibly valued and move through and moving away
from quite a lot of the capitalism and materialism into

(49:49):
a state of the priority being about oneness and emotional
health and wellbeing. Really understand, yes, my dear, yes.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Yes, Now, how can we release collective fear and anchor
more light into the world while this chaos is happening
around us?

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Good intention?

Speaker 3 (50:11):
Aha, sounds very simple.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Ah. Fear is very paralyzing and holds one in a
state of non movement, not moving up, not moving down,
almost like you know the day in headlights, you know,
even have fight or flight do it not?

Speaker 3 (50:33):
You know?

Speaker 2 (50:34):
But there is also another state where you just become
very paralyzed, very.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Noun We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
And this is what has been happening a lot with
the levels of fear to be able to get on
with all the responsibilities people have in the world today.
Was life so so much busier than they were hundreds
of years ago and so forth? They were always busy,
But now there are so many demands morning, noon and

(51:10):
night that when fears come up, if they are not
to be broached straight away, a lot of people can
go into a paralysis and nunstate, and this we have
seen a lot with collective fear. Almost you know, let
us put that on the back burner, deal with that later,

(51:31):
Let's put a pin in it. Now is the time
to take the pin out. Does not mean to say
just with our individual fears, where it is often useful
to confront them, to move through them, to shift and
change them, when we are looking at collective fear, it

(51:53):
is more about letting them go, to release them, to
say they have no hold on me anymore. One of
the reasons why collective fear of all sorts of things
remain is a fear of our history repeating itself. And
of course your history books have shown you that this

(52:15):
happens time and time again. And not so long ago
we were talking about cycles and things spiraling. And this
is why a lot of the collective fear is held
in the ether, literally in the energy around you, and
through different dimensional spaces as well, and it is so
easy to connect when we drop into certain frequencies with

(52:37):
those collective fears. However, if it's one and everybody can
do this from their homes, maybe even when they have
that presence state that we were talking about having those
moments of calm or presence of listening, of simply saying
I release, and I release on behalf of all my
brothers and sisters and others across the planet. Any fear

(53:04):
that is holding back from truly engaging with the light
now sounds very simple, but the intention is pure and
the universe lessens. You can imagine just like you might
be keeping clutter in your home and it is their
day in diet until you do something about it. And

(53:24):
sometimes it is simple as saying I don't need that
anymore and taking it all out and get rid of it,
and then it is clear. A lot of the collective
fears are like this. They have been in the ether,
and they may be from generations before, ancestors before, and
things that are not even that relevant to you now.

(53:45):
But it is being held because there is a concern,
a collective concern of humanity. This may come again, this
may come again.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
We may not know what to do.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
However, if we release them, then we are making space
in the ether through the plasma. Could say for the
light to come in, and then that is where new ideas,
new ways of being, and you move out of a
paralysis num state into a period of motion, and it
is through motion change happens. Ah often say Zakism Jenny

(54:20):
calls them, Haha, She's given a name to the now.
Jackisms said for many many years, sounds very simple, but holy,
close to real heart. Allow change to change you. You
are part of a wonderful, great explosion of new energy
on your planet, and you and everybody can choose to

(54:42):
embrace it and run with it or push it back.
And one of the ways of pushing it back is
to go into the collective fear instead. However, simply by
having the knowledge of this isn't a build up that
cannot be moved. Everybody is so powerful, now, why is
the reason otherwise all of this increase of frequency. It

(55:04):
is not that everyone wants to.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Be blinded by the light and have so much light.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
The usefulness of it is the power, and we are
talking about power, not force. You can think of it
as divine power source energy. It is simply bumping through
you and with your intention you can use it for
betterment for yourself and for others. And so by actually
tuning in in this way and just simply saying I

(55:32):
release those collective fears on behalf of all. I release
them and allow them to transmute into something beautiful and new, and.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
This allows the light in.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
And then this allows you to move collectively into a place,
pass fears of the path and to instigate in a
way into the ether a brand new if and it said,
you know, we see it as sacred geometry. We see
the patterns that are created. We see in times of
great war and strive, how difficulties are You often see

(56:09):
this with water particles another when hatred another is given
to them. Well, we see it in the ether. But
what we see with the fear is this paralyzed numbness.
When the light comes in, it opens up and it
allows the new long answer again, sorry for that, my
dear understand Yes, my dear, yes.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
So the next question I have is what is the
biggest misconception people have of the Ascended Masters.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
That the Ascended Masters were perfect?

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Ha ha.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
It is understandable. As human beings you want to look
to aspire to another. One of the reasons that the
Ascended Masters lived upon the planet chows human lives was
to be able to learn before they stepped into their divinity,

(57:04):
to experience to be both friend and foe to others,
to experience losses as well as gains, and to not
always make the right choice or to do the right thing.
It is very natural to look to ascended masters and say,
but they were here on the planet and they did

(57:25):
it right. And what you're often looking at is the
end product, haha, you know, the ideal article. However, the
beauty of what the ascended masters bring through and when
they transmit, and right now here.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
I can talk very very much in terms of as.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Well goal what we actually brought through, which yes, this amalgamation,
but with a great love for the.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Trms and strife of being human.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
What we can do as assended masters is to love
the parts of you that you find difficult to love
about yourself, to see these as beautiful little kernels, a
bit like a popcorn, you know, little pieces of corn
ready to pop. We can see the future, this mystery

(58:21):
we were talking of, of all the different potentials, all
the different ways that you'll get there, and we revel
in it, we celebrate it. So when you are attuning,
or you are wishing to converse or gnnet with any
of the ascended masters, remember that they are seeing beauty
in the parts of you that you cannot see. They

(58:44):
are not really interested in the finished article. They are
not overly concerned. Should you say, well, I've done this,
I've done that, I'm here, they'll say, we're good for you,
but let's look at the bits that you don't want
to look at. And this is where they will really
help you through. This is where they can enlighten you
and to help you to discover that you too can

(59:09):
ascend in just the same way, but in your own
individual pathway because you are unique as you, you do
not have to emulate anyone else's way. Because every single
life is so stupendous on this planet, whether you can
look at it and think, oh well I do this,

(59:30):
I do that. The interior of yourself, your energy, who
you have created yourself as a persona, and how you
live your life, this is what the ascended masters look at.
They do not look like what you have, but what
you give you. Know, they don't look at how many
people that love you. They look at how many people

(59:53):
you love you understand yes, And this is where the
ascended masters have a very different world from archangels and
other types of being. And I would like to say,
as Zachariah still have this in me, as I'll call
you know, I put all the different parts of me
in myself and then come across. But it's just so
comfortable to be Zachariah. I was so comfortable in that

(01:00:16):
life that it is easier in this way. But understand
this regarding the assentded.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Master, it is yes, thank you so much for that.
And my final question is what final message would you
share with those who are ready to embody their divine
essence in human form. We'll be right back after a
word from our sponsor, and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
It's a very strange one, you might think, but I
would say, allow yourself to be human first before you
choose to change a pathway to emulate something lighter, bright,
something that you always are in the energetic world, and

(01:01:04):
a version of you is always existing there. Not all
of your soul, only a little bit of your soul
is in this personality and this being that you refer
to when you see in the mirror. What I would
say is immerse yourself in being human, because.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
This is what you came here to be.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Now that does not mean to say, oh, I allow
all my human instincts just to run riot, but start
to learn from yourself. What does it feel like when
I experience this, that or the other?

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
How do I react?

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
And then not just how do I react, but then
how do I choose to act? The wonderful thing about
human is that you have free will and you have choice.
Many people only really discover this on their deathbed, and
that is a shame. However, as you grow and you
shift and you change, embrace your humanity, embrace the beauty

(01:02:05):
of being who you are in this world, whilst choosing
pathways that you would wish to be in the world
and to discover yourself and to be able to have Therefore,
walk a path with love, Walk a path with grace,
with kindness, with compassion. Allow yourself to learn self mastery

(01:02:31):
in a way that is compatible and compliable with you.
Allow yourself to grow at the speed that you would wish,
and like any plants in nature would tell you, water
yourself often, you know, give yourself good nutrition. Allow yourself
to look at the light, allow yourself to bathe in

(01:02:53):
the beauty. Allow yourself to have fun. This is one
of the most wonderful things about being huge women. Enjoy
the life you know, Immerse yourself in all of these things.
The more you notice your choices, however, the more you
can start to shift and change into a more enlightened

(01:03:15):
life by simply being and learning how to be in
at these parts most of all my days, be kind,
be kind to yourself, be kind to others, and then
whole worlds will open up to you you could not
even imagine. Hah, understand, yes my days.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Yes, thank you so much for being here, Zach. It's
such a pleasure talking to you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Go go good, I will leave you now. My day.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
It has been a pleasure, and particularly to talk on
this most auspicious of day. The energy is a ha
ha hi and wide and free. Is not good good,
goodbye my day, goodbye helly.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
And she's back, and she's back back in the room.
His accent is very interesting. It's it's dodgy, the accent.
It's like it has like a bit of South African
Australian New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
You know, all of this amazing information comes out. But me,
as Janet, I've got over it now after all these years.
I just used to be mortified at what it sounded like.
I can't do an accent at all, and I can't
actually do zax accent. It was sort of this weird
combination that he was Zach Raiv Syria. But people used
to say, oh, I've got you know, I know people

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in sort of northern India and Tibet that sound like him.
So I thought maybe it's like the dwell call thing.
But I've learned because he just finds it funny that
I cringe at the very very dodgy and you know,
cancel culture Jesus, the sort of how it actually sounds
coming out. But I've learned now that actually as it

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comes through, there's something about the frequency. Talks about the
frequency of certain words. He is a way that he
actually transmits the energy that he's talking about, so how
it actually hits people so not so much what they're hearing,
but how it's actually traveling through them. But yeah, my
very English way of putting is is a very dodgy accent.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
That's a very.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
English way for he.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
No question, Jannet, where can people find out more about
you and the amazing work you're doing with Zach.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Well, we have a patron site called Zach's Portal, and
there's so much there. We've had it going for about
six years at this time. We are keeping everything open
for people, so everything's on there. There are these deep dives,
cosmic classrooms, and also he does these incredible meditations and

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we release these every month and could also actually find
we have monthly zach chats as well, which are free,
which are now up on YouTube as well. That's also
called sex Portal, and we would love people to find
us there. There's my website as well, which is Planet
Hyphentherapies dot com. And yeah, we would just love to

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join you if you resonate with sex message. He is
all about heart's desire, self mastery and holding our hands
and and you know going, you know, having fun with
it as well of this whole life journey. As you
can hear from everything he's saying, he's a massive fan
of us as humans and and you know, I'm just

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I've just feel really blessed and privileged to be able
to be a vehicle for him so that he can
be there in the world for whatever people need.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
And we're in Do you have any final messages or
blessings for the audience, Say just be.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
That's something that I've really learned. It sounds so glib
like oh b, but we don't we're all just so busy.
Take time to be and learn about yourself, who you
really are. Because when we actually do that, I think
we find a lot of acceptance with all sorts of

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other things in our life. There's so much more, but
I think if it's one little takeaway, I would say,
just be and be kind to yourself. He talks about
kindness so much. He's taught me a lot about kindness.
Just really go into that hard space where in this
time of heart transcendence now and love who you find there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Beautiful, beautiful Ja. It's been such a pleasure talking to
you and Zach today. It has been a joy, and
I appreciate you and everything you're doing to awaken this planet.
So thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
Thank you, Alex. It's been great, wonderful, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
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