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November 25, 2025 • 12 mins
Ja'Marr Chase Apologizes for Spitting Incident
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the deep dive Today. We're jumping right into
a story that I mean it perfectly illustrates this new
high stakes reality of accountability in professional sports.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
It really does.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
We're talking about a star player, a huted rivalry, a
split second act of disrespect, and a financial penalty that
makes every other fine this season. Yeah, well, it looks
like a rounding error.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
We're pulling apart the Jamar Chase incident. The Cincinnati Bengals
wide receiver was suspended one game for spitting on Jalen Ramsey,
the Pittsburgh Steelers defensive back during their Week twelve matchup. Yep,
and this isn't just you know, locker room drama. This
is a case study in how the NFL is using
video evidence and frankly, financial force to correct player conduct

(00:44):
even when the officials on the field missed the main
event entirely.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
So our mission here is to understand not just what
Chase did, but what the league's response tells us, what
it reveals about, you know, their current expectations for player conduct. Hey,
we're unpacking the source reports, detail the timeline, the league's judgment,
the staggering five hundred thousand dollars cost and Chase's eventual,

(01:08):
very delayed public apology. We want you to walk away
from this really understanding the calculus behind the discipline and.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
The context is just so important here. This went down
during a crucial Bengals loss to their bitter rival, the Steelers.
So the energy was already electric, right, and as the
sources point out, the tension between Chase and Ramsey was
simmering long long before that final whistle.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Okay, so let's get into the anatomy of the incident itself.
The action happened off ball, which makes the discipline that
followed so interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Absolutely, the core action. The thing the league reviewed after
the game was Jamar Chase spitting on Ramsey during a
sideline exchange. What's so critical here is the blind spot.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
The officials didn't see it.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
The officials on the field, even though they were nearby,
did not actually see the act of spitting occur, but.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
The television cameras sure did. And that's kind of the
ultimate official in modern sports, isn't it. The incident didn't
end there, though, it escalated immediately because of Ramsey's reaction, right.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Ramsey later cited the spitting as the direct cause for
his well his immediate and aggressive reaction. He threw a
punch at Chase, and that punch that was clearly visible,
and that led directly to Ramsey's ejection from the game.
So you have the reaction being seen and penalized instantly,
while the thing that started it all was invisible to

(02:27):
the refs.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
And we should point out this wasn't just some isolated
flare up between them that afternoon. The tension was already there.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
It really was earlier in the game. Both players had
already been flagged for offsetting unsportsmanlike conduct penalties after a
totally separate.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Scuffle, so they were warned.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
They were explicitly warned. Head referee Bill Vinovich gave them
a clear verbal warning they had been put on notice.
This incident, the one that led to the suspension, was
them doubling down a choice to just ignore that warning.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Okay, And this is where the whole narrative around accountability
starts to get murky, because the immediate aftermath was just denial.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
That's right. Immediately after the game, reporters asked him about it,
and Chase flat out denied any wrongdoing. He specifically said
he never opened his mouth to that guy.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
And that posture continued the next day. He just skipped
his media availability. He essentially let that denial hang in
the air while the league was reviewing the footage.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
And that denial is really the first domino because it
sets up this unavoidable public relations correction down the line.
But first the league had to.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Act, and they did. The NFL reviewed all the high
definition video evidence and you know, it did not support
Chase's claim, not at all. Their conclusion was swift and
it was severe. Chase was found guilty of egregious misconduct
the speedding and was suspended without pay for one game.
He missed the team's twenty six to twenty loss to
the Patriots.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Chase did appeal that decision, which you know is a
pretty standard procedure, but the league, after reviewing it all again,
upheld the suspension early last week. The evidence was just irrefutable.
The penalty stood, and that.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Brings us to the financial part. And this is where
the story gets really really interesting for you the listener.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, this is the moment that defines the whole thing.
We have to look at the massive disparity in the
cost for the two players involved.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Okay. So Ramsey, the player who threw the punch, the
action that actually got him ejected, He was fined fourteen
one hundred ninety one dollars by the league, which.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Is pretty standard for that kind of misconduct.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Right, a standard fine. But Chase for spitting lost more
than five hundred thousand dollars in wages because of that
one game suspension without pay.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Just think about the scale of that difference. Half a
million dollars versus fourteen thousand dollars, all from the same scuffle.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
So why why such an astronomical difference? If we're talking
on field violence, Ramsey's punch seems objectively, I don't know,
more egregious than spitting. Yeah, why was the penalty for
Chase nearly thirty five times larger?

Speaker 2 (04:59):
That is the the absolute key to understanding modern league discipline.
We have to differentiate between a fine and a suspension
without pay a punch. Under the current Collective Bargaining Agreement
the CBA, it typically results in a fixed fine. A suspension, however,
costs the player their weekly salary based on their contract,
and for.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
A player with Chase's contract, one game is worth over
half a million dollars precisely.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
So, the league classified spitting not as standard unsportsmanlike conduct.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
But as something else entirely.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
They called it a major breach of sportsmanship and general conduct,
something that warrants removal from the field, which then triggers
that contractual loss of salary. They are essentially saying, the
act of spitting is fundamentally disqualifying.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
It's an escalation. Then it signals that certain acts, especially
you know, acts of gross disrespect or even public health
concerns in today's world, are going to be treated as
violations of the league's integrity policy.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Right. It moves them past the fixed fine schedule and
straight into mandatory suspension territory. It sets a very clear
and very very expensive precedent.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Half a million dollars for one weekend of misconduct confirmed
only by video evidence that the officials completely missed. That
is a truly expensive lesson.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
And this penalty wasn't just handed down in a vacuum.
I mean, if we connect this to the bigger picture,
the severity of the punishment, it likely reflects a pattern
the league felt it had to correct.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
You're talking about his history, Chase's history of conduct penalties
since he came into the league. Let's look at those numbers.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Since he joined the NFL in twenty twenty one, Jamar
Chase has racked up four accepted penalties for unsportsmanlike conduct
or taunting. And for his tenure, that's a pretty high number.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
So where does that rank him among his peers across
the whole league.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
It puts him tied for third in the entire league
during that three year span. He's tied with Cowboys receiver
George Pickens. Wow, and they are both just one penalty
behind the league leader, Steelers wide receiver DK Metcalf, who
has five. So this context makes that half million dollars
suspension looked less like an overreaction.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
And more like the league finally deciding to use its
biggest hammer.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Exactly, they're using serious financial leverage to curb a persistent
pattern of behavior. They're essentially saying, we find you multiple times,
it's not working. Now we suspend you to force compliance.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Given that context, the apology becomes well unavoidable. But the
timing of his public statement is fascinating.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
It was strategically delayed. Chase released his statement on Instagram
on Monday, November twenty fourth, and this was after this
suspension was upheld and after he'd already served his time
and missed the Patriots game.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
So this wasn't immediate remorse.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
No, he had the chance to show that right after
the game. This was post punishment compliance. It was aimed
at managing the fallout and you know, getting back in
good graces with the team.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Let's break down the language of the apology because it
felt very uh, tightly controlled, it seemed, and a very
specific people the league office and the Bengals fans.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Oh, it was text book pr strategy. He hit all
the keynotes, taking full responsibilities for his actions. He explicitly
shot down any excuses, saying what I did was wrong,
the circumstances don't matter. I remember that line, and then
addressing his whole passionate player identity, he said, my passion
for the game is no excuse.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
The pivot away from just the game and toward a
civic duty also felt really important. He said, there's zero
place in our sport or in life for that level
of disrespect. That language elevates it from a football thing
to a morality issue.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Which is exactly what the league wants to hear when
they hand down a punishment like this.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
But what's really fascinating is how directly he addressed his
postgame denial without actually using the word denial. He connected
the apology back to his public position. He said, I
do not take my position as a role model lightly
and admitted he should have taken immediate accountability for what happened.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
That's an explicit admission that his first reaction, the denial,
was wrong, that the itself was part of the problem.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
It is. He had to make that shift. He had
to pivot from being the defiant rival to being the
responsible role model who gets it.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
But even with this seemingly thorough apology, there was one
very specific, and I think pilling omission.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yes, while the statement personalized the apology to everyone within
the Pittsburgh Steelers organization, a very strategic institutional apology, he
never actually mentioned Jalen Ramsey.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
By name, the actual person he wronged.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
The individual, He didn't mention him.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
So why do you think that omission was made? I mean,
if you're taking full responsibility, wouldn't the target of the
act be the first person you mentioned.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
It is almost certainly a calculated move. Apologizing to the
organization is safe, it's abstract, it covers the necessary bases
to satisfy the league and his own team right directly
apologizing to Ramsey, However, that could reignite the personal conflict,
It could make a future matchup even more volatile, and
it could subject Chase to more media questions if Ramsey

(09:58):
decides to respond. The goal here was closure, not more dialogue.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
That detail apologizing to the franchise but not the player.
That is just so crucial for understanding his accountability strategy.
He paid the price, he served the suspension, he made
the public statement, but the focused state institutional, not.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Personal, and organizationally, the Bengals are definitely in the moving
on phase. Of course, as soon as that suspension was served,
Chase was back in the building on Monday, getting ready
for their next game.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
The schedule is just unforgiving. Bengals coach Zach Taylor kept
his comments very brief, very future focused. He just confirmed
he saw Chase and said the team is moving full
speed ahead for the Thursday game against the Ravens. The
chapter is closed, the penalty is paid, and it's back
to business.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
So what does this all synthesize for you the listener?
I think the key takeaway is this the NFL has signaled,
with a half a million dollar consequence, that certain acts
are now viewed as egregious integrity violations that go way
beyond on field violence.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
This incident proves that video evidence, not just the word
of an official, is the supreme court of discipline now.
It forced a massive financial penalty on Jamar Chase, partly
because of a pattern of PATS misconduct, and it forced
him to shift his entire public narrative from denial to
accepting this role model responsibility.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
The era of just denying something when the camera saw
it is clearly.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Over, and the financial consequences for the league's biggest stars
are staggering. It's a powerful lesson in cost versus action,
There really is. But let's leave you with one final thought,
building on the nuances of that apology. We talked about
how Chase apologized to the franchise, the Stealers organization, but
not specifically to Jalen Ramsey. So does that strategic decision

(11:45):
an apology directed only at the opposing organization, especially after
a costly public denial, does that truly fulfill the requirements
of full responsibility in the public eye.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Hmm, that's a good question.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
And what are the long term implications of that kind
of selective apology for Chase's personal reputation versus, say, his
contract status and his immediate standing with his own team
something to think about as we move deeper into the season.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
A fascinating line to draw. Thank you for joining us
for the Deep Dive.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
We'll see you next time.
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