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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He was very, very shocking to me, Mark, I was
not expecting that. Let's call it what it is. It
was a blowout, right, I was not expecting that blowout
at all. The Eagles are going back to the Super Bowl, guys,
after the epic beatdown of the Commanders fifty five to twenty.
When I first looked at this game, I thought it
was going to be a much closer game because the
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Commanders were playing on borrow time, right, they were playing
with house money, zero turnunovers, they were protecting Jade and Daniels.
They were doing everything right to get to this particular point.
But then I got to to ask myself this question, guys,
And I'm gonna ask you guys this same question. Was
the moment too big for the Commanders? Was this NFC
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Championship game too big for the Commanders? Because, like I said, Mark,
all postseasons before this game, the Commanders held on to
the ball. They had zero turnovers in just one sec
in this game alone versus the philadelph Eagles. He was
sacked three times and threw one interced That doesn't count
the countless times that he got tackled in the backfield.
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He just happened to fight his way forward for a
zero yard game or a one yard game.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
That did it.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
It ultimately end up count for a sack the Commanders.
Mark also had had a.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Total turnovers of four turnovers.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
In this In this game, they fumbled on kickoffs, they
fumbled by by like running the ball. They were just
loosey goosey with the ball all game long. The Eagles
had zero turnovers. Jamee Damnels, of course did his sting
two or fifty five yards passing once again, and he
was the leading rushing for the Washington Commanders with forty
eight yards. So, Mark, when you see all those stats
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and you hear all the numbers, you hear this, this
and this, do you think the moment was too big
for the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I don't think the moment was too big.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I think that it's just really hard for teams to
be consistent, you know, like something, you have good.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Games, you have bad games. They had a bad game.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
But just give it up.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
To the Philly Eagles defense, like they streamed up James
Daniels and the Adams ball, like they had fumbles, like
you gotta give it to him.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, I mean, you can give credit where credit is
due right. The Philadelphia Eagles had a great game plan.
They knew how to beat the Washington Commanders, and they
executed that thing to the tee. And they do have
the best defense in the NFL. I think many people
forget about how good the Philadelphia Eagles defense actually is.
They went out there and they forced those turnovers. It
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wasn't like the Commanders were having bad handoffs or fumbled snaps. No,
they're punching the balls out. They they forced James Daniels
into making that mistake. Right, The Eagles defense was that good.
So when we look at the Commanders, Mark, you say
they're not too big. The game wasn't too big for them.
I'm saying it wasn't too big for Jaydon Daniels. But
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now the rest of the team, Scary, Terry dan Quinn,
Cliff Kingsbury, a lot of those people have never been
on on a organization that expects to win these games.
And Jane Dams, I feel expects to win this game
or expected to win this game. Obviously, I think Jade
Daniels is the only reason why the Washing Commanders were
in the position that they were to win. But Mark,
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let me caveat onto this question. Do you think dan
Quinn is the reason why the Commanders lost this game
and not the moment being too big obviously?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
No, Like, I know you always.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Tell me that you don't like when I say this,
but I think the Commanders were like with my Broncos,
they were like, wait a year ahead do They weren't
even supposed to be this far in the season. They
weren't supposed to make Danersky Championship. The fact that they
made it this far, like you said, you know, I
got to tell you, I hate that seam. The playing
on house money, I hate that.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
But besides that, Philly studed him up, really did.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
And I think the James Daners has had a bad game,
Like I think he's gonna go on.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
To the big things.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
And I think you're right though about the fan base
and the organization, Like they haven't had a winning food
there in a very long time, so they have to
change that culture around to go back to their own weights.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, you are not wrong at all, Mark. Mark.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Let's try to find your headphones, because the speaker is
just picking up the microphone. We're getting a nice little
echo effect happening on on there. But two caveat or
to pile on to what Mark was saying, is, yes,
the culture in Washington has not been good since ninety one.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Let's just be flat out honest.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Just between the hookers and the cocaine and the cheer
cheerleading scars scandal, all that is now out the door, right,
And I understand that you like, even though you clear
out all the toxic waste, you are still gonna have
that toxic residue over the the the organization for time
to come. This was definitely a big step in the
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right direction. And Mark brought up a great point. This
is a rebuild year, right, They are quote a year
of head or two or three actually of this rebuild process.
And when you look at this rebuild process, I keep
referring back to the New York Giants back in twenty nineteen,
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twenty twenty when Brian dave Ball first came came in there, Mark,
and they made it into the playoffs his first year,
when they were in a rebuild mode, and then they're like, Ah,
we're not bad, We're fine. Do you think the Washington
commanders are going to be sitting back and relaxing now, Mark,
since they got to the big game, they are a
year or two ahead of schedule, and they're not going
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to really use that ninety three million dollars in cas
space wisely, and they're like, oh, you know what, our
teams perfectly, perfectly fine. And then they're back to where
the New York Giants are now, right, do you anticipate
them potentially being bad next season or the year after
that or year after that.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I mean, they do have a new ownership, so I
hope that would change things. I kind of look at
them like my Broncos. We're both teams in rebuilds, both
have rookie quarterbacks. We're trying to get our teams back.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
On track from years of losing.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
So I think they're one of those teams just like us.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
All Right, guys, So I believe the moment wasn't too
big for Jayden Daniels. I think it was a bigger
for the rest of the like of the team Marks
saying it was like it wasn't too big for them either.
The Eagles were just that good. So guys, let me
ask you guys this in the question or in the commas,
so in the comments below, guys, do you guys think
the moment was too big for the Washington Commanders, and
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it that was it is that what empty means over
there on YouTube?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Sorry, he says.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
As a team, yes, the moment was too big, but
as for Jayane Downs, no, the moment was not too big. Listen,
Jade Daniels, Marcus the years of his years of head,
like i'vehead of his time, like agreed, like he is
just stone cold face now. I normally like his postgame interviews,
right he level like, yeah, I expected to like win,
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you know, we just didn't win. But the one thing
I did not like about his post game conference in
this game was like this was just another game. And
I understand that mindset of saying, yeah, it's just another game,
but at the end of the day, it wasn't just
another game. And like I wanted a little bit more
emotion out of Jade and Daniels out of that. You
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are nodding in agreement, like what did you expect to
see from Jane Daills in that poster.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Maybe he's just too young still to realize like where
he was like that, he didn't realize that, like the
Super Bowl is a big deal, It's gonna be a
big deal his whole career. He doesn't know that yet, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
And he would have been the first rookie quarterback ever
to win a conference championship game, first rookie ever to
be in the suit super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
And you know he's he's had a hell a hell.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Of a year and that would have been a great
explanation point to end it, even just making it not
beating the KNCA Chiefs, but just making it what it
would have been great. Jim Paalz the picks himunny as well,
he said, CEO, the picks him punnies. He says the
commanders were playing like playing a paper lion week defense
the week before, So Jim was saying the lines sucked
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the week before and the commander should have rolled over
him just like they did the defense the week before.
The Eagles is way the truth and the light against
the Kansas City Chiefs. I kind of miss living there
hearing all the gunshots at night. So basically, Mark or sorry,
Jim is saying that the Eagles defense was the truth,
The Eagles defense was the real deal, and nobody is
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getting past the getting past the Eagles at the defense
plays top notch.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Do you kind of see that as well?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Mark, That whole roster is stacked you know me, Buck,
I've been high on them all year because of that
one reason, Like they're gonna be tough.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
To be.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, the uh.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I was kind of late to the party on the
power rankings as like a like as far as them,
but was like week eleven, I put him up there
and they just kept getting better and better and better
and better.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
If they are definitely a very very good team.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Fly Fly Eagles Fly say that Jadeen Daniels is a
good quarterback, and Fly Eagles fly.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I'm gonna take this one step further. He's a great quarterback.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Jade Daniels right now is a top five quarterback in
the NFL after his rookie season. It would not shock
be one bit on this upward projector that he is
in right now, Mark that you start talking about him
as a top two, top three quarterback at the end.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I yeah, he is.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Top five, hands down. So how do you think he
can get to that top two, top top three status?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Super Bowl? Man, super Bowl is what it takes, huh,
super Bowl, super.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Bowl, Everything's everything's judged by chips.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, It's it's sad but true. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Kurt Miller says, this is the United Waite sports talk show. Congratulations.
I know that you're trying to be funny and sarcastic,
but okay whatever. Alpha Rob says, the game is how
I expected it. I didn't put them, but I did
not expect the Eagles to put fifty on them.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I don't think anybody was honestly, Like, let's just be honest.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
But once you saw the passing attack of the Eagles,
you're like, Okay, this is gonna get ugly really really
really quick.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
But dude, Sakuon Barkley, that guy is like run seventy
and in a mid second.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
It's it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, it is crazy how the Commanders had with like
eighteen drive eighteen play drive their first drive five seconds
later it's seven to three.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Like what Like I looked away and Sekwan Barkley's like
fifty yards down the field, Like what is going on?
Like it was just it is. It is crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Alpha Rob said the Eagles should have put sixty on
Washington just for having that stupid name. Alpha Rob does
not like the Alpha Rob says Commanders is the dumbest
name out there.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
He's right.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Seth says, let's talk about the Commanders jumping off off
sides on the toush push. I never knew they could
just award a core like that. Listen, if you guys
do not remember, it was Louvu right jumped over the line?
Was it twice or three times in a row and
doing it? Yeah, And the second time they like, hey,
if this happens again, it's a personal foul. And then
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the third time, like it happened again, is like, hey,
if you do this again, we're going to award the
Eagles points. I been watching football. I've been around football
for a very very long time. Mark, I'm thirty six
years old, so I've been really understanding the football game
for about twenty years. G I've never heard that before.
I didn't know that was even a thing. You are
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an NFL expert, you are know the game inside and out?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Did you know that rule?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I didn't like when I heard that. I was like,
but how do you stop that play? Like, unless you
try to jump over like the dude was doing. Yeah, well,
like I mean like they're gonna probably outlaw that yet.
Play dude.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I bet I would have agreed with you if this
was three years ago when it first started happening. But
now that other teams are doing it, like, I don't
see how they could outlaw it besides the safety thing, right,
And I've only seen one player really get hurt from
the touch push it was uh was it Tank Dell
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last year? I think for the Texans, like broke his leg.
But that was just a freak accident, right, I mean
he just got hit in the right spot. I don't
see them out lawing the play, but I definitely see
them trying to like limit the head contact, you know,
like because for example, when the Bills and Chiefs Chiefs
played Chris Jones and the Sinner's head boom right like
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it was, I could see them doing something like that,
like like like you can't.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I don't know, I'm you might be right.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
They might try to allay it, but definitely try to
uh make it safe.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Let's be real. The egos are the only ones.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
That do it good well, and the Bills do it
well like Josh Allen, but it.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Didn't help him in the biggest moment because the Kansas
City Chiefs knew that.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
He always it right. Yeah, yeah, true true.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Josh Olsen says, I think it would be cool if
the NFL regular season regular season was only ten games
and the best of three series in the playoffs in
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
No, that would be dumb. I don't like that at all.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I mean, and baseball is awesome in like NBA, it
is like it is awesome. But playing the same team
three weeks in a row, potentially that's gonna cause a
lot of fights. It's gonna be very, very boring. And
by week two you know the team inside and out anyway,
so it's it's it's gonna be a six to three
score anyways, Mark, would you want a best out.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Of three series and like the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
No? No, they just need to make these All star
games mean something like when the Baseball one was cool
is because it meant something. They whoever won got over
advantage in the World Series. So it's like, do something
like that.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Uh, that would happen because the NFL is always a
destination super Bowl right in Miami and New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I mean, think about this.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
It takes months and months and months to prepare for
that Super Bowl halftime six like six and security. Would
you want to go to let's say Buffalo, New York
in February negative twenty degrees outside could potentially be eight
foot of snow on the like on the ground.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Would you want to like, would you really want to
see that Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
No?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
That's too many games.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, I'm just saying, Uh. Flight Eagles Fly says it
was a hard game for Washington.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
It was a very hard game for Washington.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Once Shea Kwan Barkley scored that very first time, pretty
much untouched for sixtymo yards, I was like, Ah, this
this this, this game's over, like in like in my
heart of heart, I knew it was over. Laura says
it was too soon for them. In my opinion, none
of us thought they were making as far as they did,
Meaning the Washington commanders, you are absolutely right. I am
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eating crow about to watch the cub commanders one hundred percent.
I said, it would not shock me if they missed
the playoffs. Back when they were kind of fumbling around,
they were fooling around right then they won the last
two games to finally lock it in beating the Eagles,
and then I was like, the Buccaneers.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
They're they're they're the real deal.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
You don't you don't want to play the Buccaneers in
the in the playoffs, commanders said, hold my beer, watch
this nobody thought they were. They were going to get
past the past, the past, the Detroit Lions. They said,
hold both of my beers, now watch this. But yeah,
you are right, lord. Nobody expected them to be here.
And if you are, you are a Commanders fan or
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or two, you are a complete wanna be hot a
hot take person throwing spaghetti out of wall. Hopefully something sticks.
Nobody in the right mind thought the Commanders were going
to be here. I'm just calling it, like, I'm calling
you a liar. If you said that, unless you're a
unless you're a Commanders fan, right, then obviously you're gonna
root for your team. Too evil to hope says Jayden
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did fine, Jayden did great. Jayden Daniels is the only
reason why they scored twenty two. I guess it was
twenty three points, right, Jaye Dale is the only the.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Only reason they went as far as they did. Yeah, exactly,
good Mark, because he's the truth man, He's really good.
He like put that team on his back and won
those games.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, like I too evil to hope. I've been saying
this all for not all see long, but probably for
the last six said of weeks since I've been kind
of buying into this kind of Amander hype, Like come, like, listen,
Jayden Daniels elevates everybody's plate. If we're looking at Madden
and you see scary Terry has like an eighty. With
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Jayden Dalels on the field, he's an eighty five. You
can see Dan Quinn he's probably a sixty coach. Right
with Jayden Daniels on the field, he's a seventy coach right.
It just he elevates everybody around him. He has that
Tom Brady syndrome. I'm not saying he's Tom Brady, don't
do not get that twisted. But Tom Brady demanded greatness
out of people. I mean he was a raw, raw type,
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it in your face guy. I don't think Jade Allans
is that guy. But just his worth ethic and his
mentality and his his uh pursuit of greatness elevates everybody.
They're like, oh man, we got a twenty two year
old kid out here at five am out working us.
We step up our game, right Like, he definitely elevates everything.
The dumb alpha rob says nothing is guaranteed. He is
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back in the in the championship game. Excuse me, I
don't know what you're trying to say. They're Alpha rom
but yeah, nothing is guaranteed. Uh the hell. The Commanders
might be the Miami Dolphins of the nineties, right, they'll
never sniff another championship hip hip chip game. You might
be exactly right. Drew says, Jayden was ready for the game,
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the team wasn't. The team failed, Jaden Mark, looking back
at this game the Eagle defense, we cannot take anything
away from the Eagles defense. They played great. They punched
the ball out, they made big, huge key tackles, and
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they stepped up when they had to step up. Like
I Drew, personally, I just don't think the team was
good enough to compete with a team like the Eagles.
I'm not saying they weren't ready. I'm not saying they
were outperformed or out coached. They just weren't good enough.
Because Mark, you said Eagles had the best rosher. Do
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you think they just weren't good enough.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I don't think the Commander skins, as I call them,
we need to trademark that shirt. But but I think that,
like I was saying, I think they're like a year
ahead of schedule. So I think they just need some
pieces around Jane Daniels and you know what, he could
be back to the championship game again.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, we will be talking about this.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Uh and question number three is if they can rebounce
to stay around for that. Drew says, says, you can't
say super Bowl when Josh Allen has made one, and
you can't tell me he's not top two or not
top three. So basically, Mark Seth is saying, hey, Jane
Daniels can be top two or or top three without
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a super Bowl because we all know Josh Allen is.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Up there, so's Lamar and so's Burrow. They've he's been
to a super Bowl, but he hasn't won one. I
still consider all them like the best quarterbacks in the league.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Lamar is not even top top ten. Man, stop it.
I know you're gonna say this, stop it. But he
might be the three time MVP. Book might be.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I guess we'll find out Friday, the Friday, the awards,
one day. I can't remember, Keith says, Chiefs Kingdom. What's up, Keith,
what's up?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
What's up? What's up?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Jim Pal says, nobody reads D. Nobody reads the D
like Mahomes. I think Jim's trying to be funny, but
he means defense, right. But Daniels will get there. If
they don't go back to the game next year, I'll
be surprised. But you are talking about a team that
hasn't that has something to to lose, So, Jim, I
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kind of see what you're saying. Right, just because the
Commander's been there, right, nobody expected them to be there
next year, Mark, they are gonna be the hunted. Everybody's
gonna be out giving them their best shot week after
week after week. This year they thought, hey, we can
play a big game and probably beat the Commanders. Now
you're gonna get the A plus shot every time. Do
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you think that will affect them?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Honestly, dude, I think they need some better pieces on defense.
I think that was a huge part of why they failed.
Like a lot of their games were like thirty forty
points a game, and you can't have that if you're
gonna win.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, and especially when you have the twenty ninth rangked
rushing defense coming into the best rushing offensive team makes
for a long, long night.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Like we said, they have an old defense. They need
to get younger guys.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, Bobby Wagner played great until about divisional round and
Thenmionship game.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
He was nowhere to be found. He was just tired.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Right, Drew says, Let's say the referees did award the
Eagles to points when they were jumping off sides, right,
when the Commanders were jumping off sides, who would get
awarded the points to? Like who would get the touchdown
in the fantasy who in that betting who would get
the touchdown?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I would say probably the quarterback?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Right, I mean, it seemed that the quarterback always gets
defaulted to, like all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
But I mean, that's an interesting question.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, that is a question for those referee experts on
CBS and Fox. I always get shit wrong, but I digress.
Sean will Book says, I want a game in February
in Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
No, you don't. Nobody wants to be outside in.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Green Bay in January, let alone February. Nobody wants to
be out there in negatives twenty negative thirty degrees and
potential for fifteentheenis, No, nobody wants to play in that shit.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
There's a reason why.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
The Super Bowl one time New York, My Broncos are
in it, and dude, it literally blizzard the next day.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, I mean, hell even was it the uh? It was?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
It was your Broncos taken on the Carolina Panthers, right,
and it rained.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I don't even want rain in that Super Bowl. No,
it was thinking of the Colts Bears Super Bowl. That
was a rain game.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I was actually in Miami and it rained.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah. God, I don't even want rain. I want perfect conditions.
I want seventy five and Sonny. If it's not gonna
be seventy five and Sonny, put me in a dome
and crank that. Maybe at about eighty five. I want
to be sweating in the stands right like, I don't
want I don't want any chance of rain or nothing.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Geez.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Josh says, go Birds, Go Birds. Sean Will says, I
think they will be even better next season. Meeting the
Washington Commanders in hindsight, yes, you hope your projectory does
go up, right, But Mark, what happened to CJ. Stroud
this particular season. Everybody's like, oh, boom boom boom. Yeah,
sophomore slump guys that they're they're the sophomore slump is
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a real thing. I'm not saying Jane Daniels will have
a horrible season, but I'm not saying he is gonna
have a great season either. I think we're gonna see
probably Jade Down's gonna be status quo next season and
probably year three in the in the year four, then
we'll kind of see him transcend the way he did
this this this season, and he is the keys to
that ignition like R.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Kelly was too soon.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Uh, Laura says, I hope j. J. McCarthy as plays
as well as Jaydon Downs his first season. Well, Laura,
you will get to see j. J. McCarthy and a
San Francisco four uniform next season when they trade him.
Don't think you don't think that's hey, Charles says, the
Eagles are just way way better. The Eagles defense is
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way way better. The Eagles defense is the real deal.
The Eagles defense cannot. When I look back at this game,
and I thought it was going to be a twenty
to twenty three score or maybe seventeen twenty like I
thought I thought it was. It was going to be
a low scoring game mainly because of the Eagles defense,
right mark, And looking back on it now, I'm actually
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kind of surprised that the Eagles defens even gave up
twenty three points. The Eagles defens is that much better?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Right?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
It could? A lot of those points are some garbage
during garbage time, right, So in all reality, they probably
held them to thirteen.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, because when they scored that big touchdown over the
middle that made it. Was it sixteen to twelve or
some of that sixteen thirteen? I can't remember, but yeah, yeah,
I think I think you are about right. Jim says
Washington made it as far as they wanted to. If
they wanted to play on, they would have put up
a different type of fight. So John says they were
as satisfied with being in the championship. They were satisfied.
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They were proud, they were They were like, hey, maybe
next season, do you see that?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I kept thinking about Dan Snyder being pissed on his
freaking yacht somewhere seeing the Commanders in the championship game.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I don't think he would listen what they sold that
team for a while, like like eleven billion dollars or
something something ridiculous, you know, off, you know, if I
had six billion dollars, I don't think I would be
very upset. I'm just I mean, obviously I'm not in
his shoes, but like, I'm not the type of.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Person petty dude, you would be mad.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Come not petty, But like I mean, like like I
wish other people's success. But you know, looking back on it,
when I did leave my first high school job as
a defense of a of a coordinator and I took
a head cold coaching job, I did keep an eye
out on them, hoping they were like, oh, we miss you.
But yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, see yeah, I
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guess you're right, says said Washington.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Will Will will be back.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
They just need a couple more pieces on defense and
a couple more receivers. We might as well just keep
did we They need any They need a new head coach,
they need some more offensive lineman, and they need a
running back.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
You know what I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Quinn's supposed to be like a defensive genius. Right, And
where was their defense this year?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
So the defense overall was ranked about fifteenth, middle of
the pack. Past defense was top ten. I think they're
ninth to end the season, but the rush defens was terrible.
They're thirtieth twirtieth all season.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Long so so overall not that but that grade of
a defense.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
No, I mean, and to be honest, what is Dan's
Quinn And like, like you know thought process when he
was with Atlanta, He's like, hey, I want to beat
up on bad teams. Pad, my stats make my teams
look good. With the Dallas Cowboys on the defensive side
the ball, what do they do they beat up bad teams?
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They shut them out, Pad, Pad, the stats make them
look good when they play the team like the Buffalo Bills.
Oh yep, James coach just scored another touchdown on them,
like they get ran all over right. It's just damn.
Quinn is not a big time coach, as simple as that.
Not a big time coach.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I think that could be part of the reason if
they don't know the championship game again.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Would be damn would so let me ask you this
this mark, because New Orleans Saints has a job opening,
Cliff Cliff Kingsbury says he is not going to pursue that.
He's happy in Washington. Do you think the ownership general
manager is in Cliff Cliff Cliff Kingsbury's ear saying, hey,
if Dan Quinn doesn't get us back to the Championship
(27:31):
Game or super Bowl next season, the job is yours.
Do you think Cliff Kingsbury is the future in Washington
not Dan Quinn?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
You know, that's a good thought, but I'm not really
sure Kingsbury's ready to be a head coach again. I
think that's why he's staying in Washington for now.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
He was very, very bad in Arizona. I think he had.
He was twenty four and thirty eight with with like
one tie.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
All losing seasons, except for the one season in twenty
twenty where they started off eleven and.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
One and then they were one and done in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, and then they lost to four the next seven
and actually, Mark, that was that was my first viral
clip here on the Man Hour. I said, the cracks
of the Arizona Cardinos are showing. And the next game
they lost to the Green Bay Packers and they end
up losing seven in a row or something. So yeah,
I know, my shit, I just know it. Not to
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gloat or you think. Sometimes Jim says anybody that doesn't
win the ship needs to make immediate changes. I'm saying,
like effort would have been different if they couldn't win,
If they wanted to.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I agree, Jim, I agree. Laura says, put down that man, juice.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
But JJ isn't going anywhere jadas JJ's getting JJ's getting traded. Laura,
you're you are signing, you are signing san Dono to
a five year, sixty million or sixty million dollar year contract.
You are going to overpay for him and he's going
to be like Kirk Cousins and here in the next season.
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I'm just I'm just saying. John says, eighty degrees. What
are you a dolphin only can play in warm and
warm weather? No, listen, John, I'm thirty six years year
years old. I played football in Canada for four years now.
The CFL starts in what like June July time frame,
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and we're usually done by things by Thanksgiving, Christmas time
or like the first week of December is the championship game?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Have you experienced forty degrees below like it's it's cold man.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Hell, I'm from Kansas, and when it gets like twenty
five degrees and that win starts cutting through your soul,
I don't want any part of that at all.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Like, is there any teams with domes in the CFL? Fuck?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Uh No?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Because at the time when I played, we like only
had eight teams. Now that I think now that I'm
like twelve or thirteen actually, but no, nobody has no
because it's it's because, for one, the CFL is not
really profitable, right the fields are one hundred and twenty
yards long and six sixty yards wide, and just it's
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it's expensive to heat a dome, it's expensive to do
to dome. It's just it's just all around expensive. Now
surprise Actually yeah, Now, now I haven't washed CFL since
what my last game there was twenty thirteen, so I
haven't watched it. I haven't seen anything. But yeah, I
mean they might have don't now, but I doubt it,
highly doubt it. It's very expensive. Josh says the game
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would have been closer if the Commanders wouldn't have had
for turnovers. And Josh the reason why the Commanders had
four turnovers because the Eagles defense punched the ball out.
The Eagles defense forced those turnovers. Like I said, Austin
Eckler wasn't fumbling the ball, Jade Daniel wasn't throwing interceptions
like Jared Goff was, Like he had one, but they
were all you know, it was just a a freak accident,
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like the Eagles were punching the ball out mark, like
the Eagle were causing those turnovers.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
So that's why the Eagles won the game.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Jim Jim Jim Jim says, I just like the sec
who the hell wants to stay and ask deep snow?
When New Orleans is four thousand degrees all the time
exactly exactly if you had a choice of colder heat, mark,
what are you choosing heat?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Exactly? And you are and you live in and you
live in cal Colorado.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
That's probably why because I get sick.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, listen, my grandma is from northern Michigan up in
the up right. It would get down to like negative
twenty there, and I'm like, like, how cold does it
actually get? And like cause she's like, you know, once
it gets below zero, like you just don't feel shit anymore.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Like no, no, no, since.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Jim says, it's it's a different kind of cold. When
you wear a T shirt at negative thirty five is
not terribly humid. It's the dry heat, Like what are
you from Arizona?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Gym? Get out of here that crap.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Josh says, I think forty five degrees in sunny is
perfect football weather for football outdoors. And Josh, you are correctly,
you are absolutely correct. But as a fan, I want
a snice shade, I want a cold beer, and I
want eighty degrees.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Aka. I like sitting in my living room watching games.
I'm just I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Sean says, yeah, I'm from Wisconsin. Was the Packers game
versus the Cowboys with the controversial catch on the goal line,
I'm thirty eight.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Players don't want to play in that. Yeah, I mean so,
not only do you have to think about the cold?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Right?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
So I do know that Lambeau has a heated field now, right,
so that field technically never gets gets hard. And but
think about it, like if you were playing I don't know,
just five years ago, when it's zero degrees outside the
ground is freaking concrete? Do you want to be Lennon
on concrete? Play after play after play? Like? No, don't
you don't want to do it at all? Jim says,
(33:04):
Western Pennsylvania we laugh at Kansas winter. Listen, I understand
Western Pennsylvania has was is it? Is it Lake Erie
up there?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Right?
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (33:15):
No, that's to be superior, right, so be lakes Lakes
Superior gets all that lake effects snow. But mark you
you even have the snow there and there and there
and call and like ca and and call and call Colorado.
But I feel like the snow kind of insulates your
like your stating kind of keeps it warm. Right, Kansas,
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we don't get snow. It gets too cold to snow,
right and and like and so it's just cold and
nasty and it's just it's just miserable. Like you can't
go out and play it in the snow, like you
can't do this, Like you're looking at a frozen ground
that has just dirt because it rained and is frozen.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
It's all lump. It's just it just sucks. It just sucks.
Winter sucks unless it's snowy, right, but anyways goes away
pretty quick.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
So you are on the opposite side of the rockies
then yes, yeah, so you you know exactly, like just
like just how it is. It's just blows and just miserable, right,
like damn, give me some white stuff to play with.
How do you like some good cocaine? But speaking of cocaine,
He was very, very shocking to me, Mark, I was
not expecting that. Let's call it what it is. It
was a blowout, right, I was not expecting that blowout
at all. The Eagles are going back to the Super Bowl, guys,
after the epic beatdown of the Commanders fifty five to twenty.
When I first looked at this game, I thought it
was going to be a much closer game because the
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Commanders were playing on borrow time, right, they were playing
with house money, zero turnunovers, they were protecting Jade and Daniels.
They were doing everything right to get to this particular point.
But then I got to to ask myself this question, guys,
And I'm gonna ask you guys this same question. Was
the moment too big for the Commanders? Was this NFC
(00:42):
Championship game too big for the Commanders? Because, like I said, Mark,
all postseasons before this game, the Commanders held on to
the ball. They had zero turnovers in just one sec
in this game alone versus the philadelph Eagles. He was
sacked three times and threw one interced That doesn't count
the countless times that he got tackled in the backfield.
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He just happened to fight his way forward for a
zero yard game or a one yard game.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
That did it.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
It ultimately end up count for a sack the Commanders.
Mark also had had a.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Total turnovers of four turnovers.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
In this In this game, they fumbled on kickoffs, they
fumbled by by like running the ball. They were just
loosey goosey with the ball all game long. The Eagles
had zero turnovers. Jamee Damnels, of course did his sting
two or fifty five yards passing once again, and he
was the leading rushing for the Washington Commanders with forty
eight yards. So, Mark, when you see all those stats
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and you hear all the numbers, you hear this, this
and this, do you think the moment was too big
for the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I don't think the moment was too big.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I think that it's just really hard for teams to
be consistent, you know, like something, you have good.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Games, you have bad games. They had a bad game.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
But just give it up.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
To the Philly Eagles defense, like they streamed up James
Daniels and the Adams ball, like they had fumbles, like
you gotta give it to him.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, I mean, you can give credit where credit is
due right. The Philadelphia Eagles had a great game plan.
They knew how to beat the Washington Commanders, and they
executed that thing to the tee. And they do have
the best defense in the NFL. I think many people
forget about how good the Philadelphia Eagles defense actually is.
They went out there and they forced those turnovers. It
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wasn't like the Commanders were having bad handoffs or fumbled snaps. No,
they're punching the balls out. They they forced James Daniels
into making that mistake. Right, The Eagles defense was that good.
So when we look at the Commanders, Mark, you say
they're not too big. The game wasn't too big for them.
I'm saying it wasn't too big for Jaydon Daniels. But
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now the rest of the team, Scary, Terry dan Quinn,
Cliff Kingsbury, a lot of those people have never been
on on a organization that expects to win these games.
And Jane Dams, I feel expects to win this game
or expected to win this game. Obviously, I think Jade
Daniels is the only reason why the Washing Commanders were
in the position that they were to win. But Mark,
(03:15):
let me caveat onto this question. Do you think dan
Quinn is the reason why the Commanders lost this game
and not the moment being too big obviously?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
No, Like, I know you always.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Tell me that you don't like when I say this,
but I think the Commanders were like with my Broncos,
they were like, wait a year ahead do They weren't
even supposed to be this far in the season. They
weren't supposed to make Danersky Championship. The fact that they
made it this far, like you said, you know, I
got to tell you, I hate that seam. The playing
on house money, I hate that.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
But besides that, Philly studed him up, really did.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
And I think the James Daners has had a bad game,
Like I think he's gonna go on.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
To the big things.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
And I think you're right though about the fan base
and the organization, Like they haven't had a winning food
there in a very long time, so they have to
change that culture around to go back to their own weights.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, you are not wrong at all, Mark. Mark.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Let's try to find your headphones, because the speaker is
just picking up the microphone. We're getting a nice little
echo effect happening on on there. But two caveat or
to pile on to what Mark was saying, is, yes,
the culture in Washington has not been good since ninety one.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Let's just be flat out honest.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Just between the hookers and the cocaine and the cheer
cheerleading scars scandal, all that is now out the door, right,
And I understand that you like, even though you clear
out all the toxic waste, you are still gonna have
that toxic residue over the the the organization for time
to come. This was definitely a big step in the
(04:49):
right direction. And Mark brought up a great point. This
is a rebuild year, right, They are quote a year
of head or two or three actually of this rebuild process.
And when you look at this rebuild process, I keep
referring back to the New York Giants back in twenty nineteen,
(05:10):
twenty twenty when Brian dave Ball first came came in there, Mark,
and they made it into the playoffs his first year,
when they were in a rebuild mode, and then they're like, Ah,
we're not bad, We're fine. Do you think the Washington
commanders are going to be sitting back and relaxing now, Mark,
since they got to the big game, they are a
year or two ahead of schedule, and they're not going
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to really use that ninety three million dollars in cas
space wisely, and they're like, oh, you know what, our
teams perfectly, perfectly fine. And then they're back to where
the New York Giants are now, right, do you anticipate
them potentially being bad next season or the year after
that or year after that.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I mean, they do have a new ownership, so I
hope that would change things. I kind of look at
them like my Broncos. We're both teams in rebuilds, both
have rookie quarterbacks. We're trying to get our teams back.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
On track from years of losing.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
So I think they're one of those teams just like us.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
All Right, guys, So I believe the moment wasn't too
big for Jayden Daniels. I think it was a bigger
for the rest of the like of the team Marks
saying it was like it wasn't too big for them either.
The Eagles were just that good. So guys, let me
ask you guys this in the question or in the commas,
so in the comments below, guys, do you guys think
the moment was too big for the Washington Commanders, and
(06:34):
it that was it is that what empty means over
there on YouTube?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Sorry, he says.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
As a team, yes, the moment was too big, but
as for Jayane Downs, no, the moment was not too big. Listen,
Jade Daniels, Marcus the years of his years of head,
like i'vehead of his time, like agreed, like he is
just stone cold face now. I normally like his postgame interviews,
right he level like, yeah, I expected to like win,
(07:02):
you know, we just didn't win. But the one thing
I did not like about his post game conference in
this game was like this was just another game. And
I understand that mindset of saying, yeah, it's just another game,
but at the end of the day, it wasn't just
another game. And like I wanted a little bit more
emotion out of Jade and Daniels out of that. You
(07:24):
are nodding in agreement, like what did you expect to
see from Jane Daills in that poster.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Maybe he's just too young still to realize like where
he was like that, he didn't realize that, like the
Super Bowl is a big deal, It's gonna be a
big deal his whole career. He doesn't know that yet, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
And he would have been the first rookie quarterback ever
to win a conference championship game, first rookie ever to
be in the suit super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
And you know he's he's had a hell a hell.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Of a year and that would have been a great
explanation point to end it, even just making it not
beating the KNCA Chiefs, but just making it what it
would have been great. Jim Paalz the picks himunny as well,
he said, CEO, the picks him punnies. He says the
commanders were playing like playing a paper lion week defense
the week before, So Jim was saying the lines sucked
(08:13):
the week before and the commander should have rolled over
him just like they did the defense the week before.
The Eagles is way the truth and the light against
the Kansas City Chiefs. I kind of miss living there
hearing all the gunshots at night. So basically, Mark or sorry,
Jim is saying that the Eagles defense was the truth,
The Eagles defense was the real deal, and nobody is
(08:34):
getting past the getting past the Eagles at the defense
plays top notch.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Do you kind of see that as well?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Mark, That whole roster is stacked you know me, Buck,
I've been high on them all year because of that
one reason, Like they're gonna be tough.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
To be.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, the uh.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I was kind of late to the party on the
power rankings as like a like as far as them,
but was like week eleven, I put him up there
and they just kept getting better and better and better
and better.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
If they are definitely a very very good team.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Fly Fly Eagles Fly say that Jadeen Daniels is a
good quarterback, and Fly Eagles fly.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I'm gonna take this one step further. He's a great quarterback.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Jade Daniels right now is a top five quarterback in
the NFL after his rookie season. It would not shock
be one bit on this upward projector that he is
in right now, Mark that you start talking about him
as a top two, top three quarterback at the end.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I yeah, he is.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Top five, hands down. So how do you think he
can get to that top two, top top three status?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Super Bowl? Man, super Bowl is what it takes, huh,
super Bowl, super.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Bowl, Everything's everything's judged by chips.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, It's it's sad but true. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Kurt Miller says, this is the United Waite sports talk show. Congratulations.
I know that you're trying to be funny and sarcastic,
but okay whatever. Alpha Rob says, the game is how
I expected it. I didn't put them, but I did
not expect the Eagles to put fifty on them.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I don't think anybody was honestly, Like, let's just be honest.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
But once you saw the passing attack of the Eagles,
you're like, Okay, this is gonna get ugly really really
really quick.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
But dude, Sakuon Barkley, that guy is like run seventy
and in a mid second.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
It's it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, it is crazy how the Commanders had with like
eighteen drive eighteen play drive their first drive five seconds
later it's seven to three.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Like what Like I looked away and Sekwan Barkley's like
fifty yards down the field, Like what is going on?
Like it was just it is. It is crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Alpha Rob said the Eagles should have put sixty on
Washington just for having that stupid name. Alpha Rob does
not like the Alpha Rob says Commanders is the dumbest
name out there.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
He's right.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Seth says, let's talk about the Commanders jumping off off
sides on the toush push. I never knew they could
just award a core like that. Listen, if you guys
do not remember, it was Louvu right jumped over the line?
Was it twice or three times in a row and
doing it? Yeah, And the second time they like, hey,
if this happens again, it's a personal foul. And then
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the third time, like it happened again, is like, hey,
if you do this again, we're going to award the
Eagles points. I been watching football. I've been around football
for a very very long time. Mark, I'm thirty six
years old, so I've been really understanding the football game
for about twenty years. G I've never heard that before.
I didn't know that was even a thing. You are
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an NFL expert, you are know the game inside and out?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Did you know that rule?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I didn't like when I heard that. I was like,
but how do you stop that play? Like, unless you
try to jump over like the dude was doing. Yeah, well,
like I mean like they're gonna probably outlaw that yet.
Play dude.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I bet I would have agreed with you if this
was three years ago when it first started happening. But
now that other teams are doing it, like, I don't
see how they could outlaw it besides the safety thing, right,
And I've only seen one player really get hurt from
the touch push it was uh was it Tank Dell
(12:15):
last year? I think for the Texans, like broke his leg.
But that was just a freak accident, right, I mean
he just got hit in the right spot. I don't
see them out lawing the play, but I definitely see
them trying to like limit the head contact, you know,
like because for example, when the Bills and Chiefs Chiefs
played Chris Jones and the Sinner's head boom right like
(12:37):
it was, I could see them doing something like that,
like like like you can't.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I don't know, I'm you might be right.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
They might try to allay it, but definitely try to
uh make it safe.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Let's be real. The egos are the only ones.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
That do it good well, and the Bills do it
well like Josh Allen, but it.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Didn't help him in the biggest moment because the Kansas
City Chiefs knew that.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
He always it right. Yeah, yeah, true true.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Josh Olsen says, I think it would be cool if
the NFL regular season regular season was only ten games
and the best of three series in the playoffs in
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
No, that would be dumb. I don't like that at all.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I mean, and baseball is awesome in like NBA, it
is like it is awesome. But playing the same team
three weeks in a row, potentially that's gonna cause a
lot of fights. It's gonna be very, very boring. And
by week two you know the team inside and out anyway,
so it's it's it's gonna be a six to three
score anyways, Mark, would you want a best out.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Of three series and like the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
No? No, they just need to make these All star
games mean something like when the Baseball one was cool
is because it meant something. They whoever won got over
advantage in the World Series. So it's like, do something
like that.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Uh, that would happen because the NFL is always a
destination super Bowl right in Miami and New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I mean, think about this.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
It takes months and months and months to prepare for
that Super Bowl halftime six like six and security. Would
you want to go to let's say Buffalo, New York
in February negative twenty degrees outside could potentially be eight
foot of snow on the like on the ground.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Would you want to like, would you really want to
see that Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
No?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
That's too many games.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, I'm just saying, Uh. Flight Eagles Fly says it
was a hard game for Washington.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
It was a very hard game for Washington.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Once Shea Kwan Barkley scored that very first time, pretty
much untouched for sixtymo yards, I was like, Ah, this
this this, this game's over, like in like in my
heart of heart, I knew it was over. Laura says
it was too soon for them. In my opinion, none
of us thought they were making as far as they did,
Meaning the Washington commanders, you are absolutely right. I am
(15:02):
eating crow about to watch the cub commanders one hundred percent.
I said, it would not shock me if they missed
the playoffs. Back when they were kind of fumbling around,
they were fooling around right then they won the last
two games to finally lock it in beating the Eagles,
and then I was like, the Buccaneers.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
They're they're they're the real deal.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
You don't you don't want to play the Buccaneers in
the in the playoffs, commanders said, hold my beer, watch
this nobody thought they were. They were going to get
past the past, the past, the Detroit Lions. They said,
hold both of my beers, now watch this. But yeah,
you are right, lord. Nobody expected them to be here.
And if you are, you are a Commanders fan or
(15:41):
or two, you are a complete wanna be hot a
hot take person throwing spaghetti out of wall. Hopefully something sticks.
Nobody in the right mind thought the Commanders were going
to be here. I'm just calling it, like, I'm calling
you a liar. If you said that, unless you're a
unless you're a Commanders fan, right, then obviously you're gonna
root for your team. Too evil to hope says Jayden
(16:03):
did fine, Jayden did great. Jayden Daniels is the only
reason why they scored twenty two. I guess it was
twenty three points, right, Jaye Dale is the only the.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Only reason they went as far as they did. Yeah, exactly,
good Mark, because he's the truth man, He's really good.
He like put that team on his back and won
those games.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, like I too evil to hope. I've been saying
this all for not all see long, but probably for
the last six said of weeks since I've been kind
of buying into this kind of Amander hype, Like come, like, listen,
Jayden Daniels elevates everybody's plate. If we're looking at Madden
and you see scary Terry has like an eighty. With
(16:43):
Jayden Dalels on the field, he's an eighty five. You
can see Dan Quinn he's probably a sixty coach. Right
with Jayden Daniels on the field, he's a seventy coach right.
It just he elevates everybody around him. He has that
Tom Brady syndrome. I'm not saying he's Tom Brady, don't
do not get that twisted. But Tom Brady demanded greatness
out of people. I mean he was a raw, raw type,
(17:05):
it in your face guy. I don't think Jade Allans
is that guy. But just his worth ethic and his
mentality and his his uh pursuit of greatness elevates everybody.
They're like, oh man, we got a twenty two year
old kid out here at five am out working us.
We step up our game, right Like, he definitely elevates everything.
The dumb alpha rob says nothing is guaranteed. He is
(17:28):
back in the in the championship game. Excuse me, I
don't know what you're trying to say. They're Alpha rom
but yeah, nothing is guaranteed. Uh the hell. The Commanders
might be the Miami Dolphins of the nineties, right, they'll
never sniff another championship hip hip chip game. You might
be exactly right. Drew says, Jayden was ready for the game,
(17:50):
the team wasn't. The team failed, Jaden Mark, looking back
at this game the Eagle defense, we cannot take anything
away from the Eagles defense. They played great. They punched
the ball out, they made big, huge key tackles, and
(18:10):
they stepped up when they had to step up. Like
I Drew, personally, I just don't think the team was
good enough to compete with a team like the Eagles.
I'm not saying they weren't ready. I'm not saying they
were outperformed or out coached. They just weren't good enough.
Because Mark, you said Eagles had the best rosher. Do
(18:30):
you think they just weren't good enough.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I don't think the Commander skins, as I call them,
we need to trademark that shirt. But but I think that,
like I was saying, I think they're like a year
ahead of schedule. So I think they just need some
pieces around Jane Daniels and you know what, he could
be back to the championship game again.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, we will be talking about this.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Uh and question number three is if they can rebounce
to stay around for that. Drew says, says, you can't
say super Bowl when Josh Allen has made one, and
you can't tell me he's not top two or not
top three. So basically, Mark Seth is saying, hey, Jane
Daniels can be top two or or top three without
(19:15):
a super Bowl because we all know Josh Allen is.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Up there, so's Lamar and so's Burrow. They've he's been
to a super Bowl, but he hasn't won one. I
still consider all them like the best quarterbacks in the league.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Lamar is not even top top ten. Man, stop it.
I know you're gonna say this, stop it. But he
might be the three time MVP. Book might be.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I guess we'll find out Friday, the Friday, the awards,
one day. I can't remember, Keith says, Chiefs Kingdom. What's up, Keith,
what's up?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
What's up? What's up?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Jim Pal says, nobody reads D. Nobody reads the D
like Mahomes. I think Jim's trying to be funny, but
he means defense, right. But Daniels will get there. If
they don't go back to the game next year, I'll
be surprised. But you are talking about a team that
hasn't that has something to to lose, So, Jim, I
(20:02):
kind of see what you're saying. Right, just because the
Commander's been there, right, nobody expected them to be there
next year, Mark, they are gonna be the hunted. Everybody's
gonna be out giving them their best shot week after
week after week. This year they thought, hey, we can
play a big game and probably beat the Commanders. Now
you're gonna get the A plus shot every time. Do
(20:22):
you think that will affect them?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Honestly, dude, I think they need some better pieces on defense.
I think that was a huge part of why they failed.
Like a lot of their games were like thirty forty
points a game, and you can't have that if you're
gonna win.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, and especially when you have the twenty ninth rangked
rushing defense coming into the best rushing offensive team makes
for a long, long night.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Like we said, they have an old defense. They need
to get younger guys.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, Bobby Wagner played great until about divisional round and
Thenmionship game.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
He was nowhere to be found. He was just tired.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Right, Drew says, Let's say the referees did award the
Eagles to points when they were jumping off sides, right,
when the Commanders were jumping off sides, who would get
awarded the points to? Like who would get the touchdown
in the fantasy who in that betting who would get
the touchdown?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I would say probably the quarterback?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Right, I mean, it seemed that the quarterback always gets
defaulted to, like all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
But I mean, that's an interesting question.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, that is a question for those referee experts on
CBS and Fox. I always get shit wrong, but I digress.
Sean will Book says, I want a game in February
in Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
No, you don't. Nobody wants to be outside in.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Green Bay in January, let alone February. Nobody wants to
be out there in negatives twenty negative thirty degrees and
potential for fifteentheenis, No, nobody wants to play in that shit.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
There's a reason why.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
The Super Bowl one time New York, My Broncos are
in it, and dude, it literally blizzard the next day.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, I mean, hell even was it the uh? It was?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
It was your Broncos taken on the Carolina Panthers, right,
and it rained.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I don't even want rain in that Super Bowl. No,
it was thinking of the Colts Bears Super Bowl. That
was a rain game.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I was actually in Miami and it rained.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah. God, I don't even want rain. I want perfect conditions.
I want seventy five and Sonny. If it's not gonna
be seventy five and Sonny, put me in a dome
and crank that. Maybe at about eighty five. I want
to be sweating in the stands right like, I don't
want I don't want any chance of rain or nothing.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Geez.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Josh says, go Birds, Go Birds. Sean Will says, I
think they will be even better next season. Meeting the
Washington Commanders in hindsight, yes, you hope your projectory does
go up, right, But Mark, what happened to CJ. Stroud
this particular season. Everybody's like, oh, boom boom boom. Yeah,
sophomore slump guys that they're they're the sophomore slump is
(23:03):
a real thing. I'm not saying Jane Daniels will have
a horrible season, but I'm not saying he is gonna
have a great season either. I think we're gonna see
probably Jade Down's gonna be status quo next season and
probably year three in the in the year four, then
we'll kind of see him transcend the way he did
this this this season, and he is the keys to
that ignition like R.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Kelly was too soon.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Uh, Laura says, I hope j. J. McCarthy as plays
as well as Jaydon Downs his first season. Well, Laura,
you will get to see j. J. McCarthy and a
San Francisco four uniform next season when they trade him.
Don't think you don't think that's hey, Charles says, the
Eagles are just way way better. The Eagles defense is
(23:50):
way way better. The Eagles defense is the real deal.
The Eagles defense cannot. When I look back at this game,
and I thought it was going to be a twenty
to twenty three score or maybe seventeen twenty like I
thought I thought it was. It was going to be
a low scoring game mainly because of the Eagles defense,
right mark, And looking back on it now, I'm actually
(24:12):
kind of surprised that the Eagles defens even gave up
twenty three points. The Eagles defens is that much better?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Right?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
It could? A lot of those points are some garbage
during garbage time, right, So in all reality, they probably
held them to thirteen.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, because when they scored that big touchdown over the
middle that made it. Was it sixteen to twelve or
some of that sixteen thirteen? I can't remember, but yeah, yeah,
I think I think you are about right. Jim says
Washington made it as far as they wanted to. If
they wanted to play on, they would have put up
a different type of fight. So John says they were
as satisfied with being in the championship. They were satisfied.
(24:50):
They were proud, they were They were like, hey, maybe
next season, do you see that?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I kept thinking about Dan Snyder being pissed on his
freaking yacht somewhere seeing the Commanders in the championship game.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I don't think he would listen what they sold that
team for a while, like like eleven billion dollars or
something something ridiculous, you know, off, you know, if I
had six billion dollars, I don't think I would be
very upset. I'm just I mean, obviously I'm not in
his shoes, but like, I'm not the type of.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Person petty dude, you would be mad.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Come not petty, But like I mean, like like I
wish other people's success. But you know, looking back on it,
when I did leave my first high school job as
a defense of a of a coordinator and I took
a head cold coaching job, I did keep an eye
out on them, hoping they were like, oh, we miss you.
But yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, see yeah, I
(25:51):
guess you're right, says said Washington.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Will Will will be back.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
They just need a couple more pieces on defense and
a couple more receivers. We might as well just keep
did we They need any They need a new head coach,
they need some more offensive lineman, and they need a
running back.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
You know what I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Quinn's supposed to be like a defensive genius. Right, And
where was their defense this year?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
So the defense overall was ranked about fifteenth, middle of
the pack. Past defense was top ten. I think they're
ninth to end the season, but the rush defens was terrible.
They're thirtieth twirtieth all season.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Long so so overall not that but that grade of
a defense.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
No, I mean, and to be honest, what is Dan's
Quinn And like, like you know thought process when he
was with Atlanta, He's like, hey, I want to beat
up on bad teams. Pad, my stats make my teams
look good. With the Dallas Cowboys on the defensive side
the ball, what do they do they beat up bad teams?
(26:49):
They shut them out, Pad, Pad, the stats make them
look good when they play the team like the Buffalo Bills.
Oh yep, James coach just scored another touchdown on them,
like they get ran all over right. It's just damn.
Quinn is not a big time coach, as simple as that.
Not a big time coach.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I think that could be part of the reason if
they don't know the championship game again.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Would be damn would so let me ask you this
this mark, because New Orleans Saints has a job opening,
Cliff Cliff Kingsbury says he is not going to pursue that.
He's happy in Washington. Do you think the ownership general
manager is in Cliff Cliff Cliff Kingsbury's ear saying, hey,
if Dan Quinn doesn't get us back to the Championship
(27:31):
Game or super Bowl next season, the job is yours.
Do you think Cliff Kingsbury is the future in Washington
not Dan Quinn?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
You know, that's a good thought, but I'm not really
sure Kingsbury's ready to be a head coach again. I
think that's why he's staying in Washington for now.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
He was very, very bad in Arizona. I think he had.
He was twenty four and thirty eight with with like
one tie.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
All losing seasons, except for the one season in twenty
twenty where they started off eleven and.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
One and then they were one and done in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, and then they lost to four the next seven
and actually, Mark, that was that was my first viral
clip here on the Man Hour. I said, the cracks
of the Arizona Cardinos are showing. And the next game
they lost to the Green Bay Packers and they end
up losing seven in a row or something. So yeah,
I know, my shit, I just know it. Not to
(28:25):
gloat or you think. Sometimes Jim says anybody that doesn't
win the ship needs to make immediate changes. I'm saying,
like effort would have been different if they couldn't win,
If they wanted to.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I agree, Jim, I agree. Laura says, put down that man, juice.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
But JJ isn't going anywhere jadas JJ's getting JJ's getting traded. Laura,
you're you are signing, you are signing san Dono to
a five year, sixty million or sixty million dollar year contract.
You are going to overpay for him and he's going
to be like Kirk Cousins and here in the next season.
(29:01):
I'm just I'm just saying. John says, eighty degrees. What
are you a dolphin only can play in warm and
warm weather? No, listen, John, I'm thirty six years year
years old. I played football in Canada for four years now.
The CFL starts in what like June July time frame,
(29:23):
and we're usually done by things by Thanksgiving, Christmas time
or like the first week of December is the championship game?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Have you experienced forty degrees below like it's it's cold man.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Hell, I'm from Kansas, and when it gets like twenty
five degrees and that win starts cutting through your soul,
I don't want any part of that at all.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Like, is there any teams with domes in the CFL? Fuck?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Uh No?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Because at the time when I played, we like only
had eight teams. Now that I think now that I'm
like twelve or thirteen actually, but no, nobody has no
because it's it's because, for one, the CFL is not
really profitable, right the fields are one hundred and twenty
yards long and six sixty yards wide, and just it's
(30:12):
it's expensive to heat a dome, it's expensive to do
to dome. It's just it's just all around expensive. Now
surprise Actually yeah, Now, now I haven't washed CFL since
what my last game there was twenty thirteen, so I
haven't watched it. I haven't seen anything. But yeah, I
mean they might have don't now, but I doubt it,
highly doubt it. It's very expensive. Josh says the game
(30:35):
would have been closer if the Commanders wouldn't have had
for turnovers. And Josh the reason why the Commanders had
four turnovers because the Eagles defense punched the ball out.
The Eagles defense forced those turnovers. Like I said, Austin
Eckler wasn't fumbling the ball, Jade Daniel wasn't throwing interceptions
like Jared Goff was, Like he had one, but they
were all you know, it was just a a freak accident,
(30:57):
like the Eagles were punching the ball out mark, like
the Eagle were causing those turnovers.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
So that's why the Eagles won the game.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Jim Jim Jim Jim says, I just like the sec
who the hell wants to stay and ask deep snow?
When New Orleans is four thousand degrees all the time
exactly exactly if you had a choice of colder heat, mark,
what are you choosing heat?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Exactly? And you are and you live in and you
live in cal Colorado.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
That's probably why because I get sick.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, listen, my grandma is from northern Michigan up in
the up right. It would get down to like negative
twenty there, and I'm like, like, how cold does it
actually get? And like cause she's like, you know, once
it gets below zero, like you just don't feel shit anymore.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Like no, no, no, since.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Jim says, it's it's a different kind of cold. When
you wear a T shirt at negative thirty five is
not terribly humid. It's the dry heat, Like what are
you from Arizona?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Gym? Get out of here that crap.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Josh says, I think forty five degrees in sunny is
perfect football weather for football outdoors. And Josh, you are correctly,
you are absolutely correct. But as a fan, I want
a snice shade, I want a cold beer, and I
want eighty degrees.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Aka. I like sitting in my living room watching games.
I'm just I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Sean says, yeah, I'm from Wisconsin. Was the Packers game
versus the Cowboys with the controversial catch on the goal line,
I'm thirty eight.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Players don't want to play in that. Yeah, I mean so,
not only do you have to think about the cold?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Right?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
So I do know that Lambeau has a heated field now, right,
so that field technically never gets gets hard. And but
think about it, like if you were playing I don't know,
just five years ago, when it's zero degrees outside the
ground is freaking concrete? Do you want to be Lennon
on concrete? Play after play after play? Like? No, don't
you don't want to do it at all? Jim says,
(33:04):
Western Pennsylvania we laugh at Kansas winter. Listen, I understand
Western Pennsylvania has was is it? Is it Lake Erie
up there?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Right?
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (33:15):
No, that's to be superior, right, so be lakes Lakes
Superior gets all that lake effects snow. But mark you
you even have the snow there and there and there
and call and like ca and and call and call Colorado.
But I feel like the snow kind of insulates your
like your stating kind of keeps it warm. Right, Kansas,
(33:37):
we don't get snow. It gets too cold to snow,
right and and like and so it's just cold and
nasty and it's just it's just miserable. Like you can't
go out and play it in the snow, like you
can't do this, Like you're looking at a frozen ground
that has just dirt because it rained and is frozen.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
It's all lump. It's just it just sucks. It just sucks.
Winter sucks unless it's snowy, right, but anyways goes away
pretty quick.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
So you are on the opposite side of the rockies
then yes, yeah, so you you know exactly, like just
like just how it is. It's just blows and just miserable, right,
like damn, give me some white stuff to play with.
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