December 7, 2024 • 58 mins
My guest is Maximo Veron, journalist and UFO researcher discusses some of the biggest Latin American cases, and what he thinks of the current worldwide "drone" invasion.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Night Vision Vision. Following clues left by our ancestors, we
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Speaker 2 (00:46):
Hi, guys, welcome tonight Vision. This is your first time here.
I hope you find your way back, and if you
are a listener, I want to thank you for your
loyalty and for your interest in night Vision. We've got
a great show plan and we're going to start in
just a moment, but I wanted to just make a
little tiny announcement. Many of you, if you've been listening,
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know that I spend a lot of time between the
United States and France because of some of my research
into the rentalss chateau mystery and the overarching bloodline mysteries
and that sort of thing. So I have recently just
bought a property in France and I'm setting up a
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center there for research and for tourists to come and
learn about the area and study because we'll have quite
an extensive library there and other things for people to
look at. We'll have a few items for sale, but
it's not really like a souvenir shop or anything like that,
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so we'll have some really curated items, mostly made by
the local artisans. So we have lots of nice paintings
and sculptures and other other things that artists and artisans
come up with in the in the Old region of France.
It's it's really amazing. There's some very talented people there.
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And we'll also be doing classes. We're going to do
We're going to give French classes. We're going to give
a class in sacred geometry. Uh, we're going to do
oh my goodness, chigong yoga and some other of those
types of classes and things, and guest speakers in the
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evenings and also movie nights. So we should be busy
over there.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
We won't be opening up until probably uh late summer,
I would think, but we're going to start working on
the renovations immediately and as soon as we can get
it together, and we're going to start at the bottom
so that the business end of the property is the
first to open before the actual residential part, so we'll
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be working before we're living there. So anyhow, I hope
you'll all think about looking us up. The name of
the center and you can look us up on Facebook.
It's called La Confluence, which is Law Confluence. And the
reason that I chose that name is because the new
center sits right at the confluence of two rivers, the
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Ode and the Sols. And in some of my research
and studies about different cultures and different ideas in different symbolism,
I found that a confluence of two bodies of water,
two rivers coming together, is supposed to be a very
powerful place. I would think that it might have something
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to do with the energy that's generated by the moving
water or something like that. But they say that if
you meditate at the confluence of two rivers, or if
you sleep, you'll have amazing visions. So maybe maybe I'll
get a chance to try that out. I don't know
what the mayor is going to think about me sleeping
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out there in the middle of town, but we'll see. Anyhow,
I hope you'll all look us up on the confluence
and join our group and see what we're doing, and
we'll be posting new information there really shortly. There's some
things up now, but it's going to really pick up
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speed as we go forward. But anyhow, enough about all that, uh,
and I want to bring on tonight's guest who happens
to be a colleague of mine. He is a UFO
journalist and researcher and he's also a content creator for
kg R a G and he is in charge of
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our social media. So I would like to bring on
from Argentina, my colleague Maximowell. There you go. I was
trying to.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Do it all.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
How are you.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Pretty good? You?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Is that? Are you outside? Or is that? Oh is
that a green screen? Or do I know doesn't look
like you.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I don't know if I am allowed to, you know,
be in doing a postcast on the side.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
What you know, outside the covers? What are you outside?
Dunkin Donuts or something there?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Oh no, it's a shop, gift shop from Roswell. Yeah,
I took that picture.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Oh that's great. I love that.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I might get into Roswell a little bit later too,
but I know that, you know, you know, I've been
talking about you know, different you know, strange things and
of course, the latest uh sightings of these so called
drones or whatever they are, has really got people, got
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people going, and I know, uh, some people it seems
like might be going a little bit overboard with it.
But I'm not so sure. But what do you think
about it? Uh, talking about these drones that are over Washington,
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d C. New Jersey and the UK, and some people
are saying Russia.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I don't want to be hated, you know. That's my
point that I think, Uh, we we have to be
you know, cautious with all of these uh sounds to
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be too good to be true. I don't know. It's
hard to say we we are dealing with if it
is true? What what? What's going on that we are
dealing with some kind of straterrestrial you know, force or technology.
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I don't know. There is a lot of going on
right now. You know, it's hard to say, but we've
been so close this last a month uh two Uh,
you know, w W the third I don't want to
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say the yeah, yeah, So I don't know. I don't know.
I know that drones are taking a lot of part
of the conflict in Ukraine. So uh, it's hard to
say what's going on uh. And I think that technology
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is like so advanced in the last I don't know,
twenty years that maybe we're not recognizing what is you know,
close to our understanding for one way to put.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
It right, I mean, obviously we've always got black projects
that are much more advanced than you know what what's
a parent Uh, And it's point they finally you know,
reached the public eye. I can remember several of those,
the Aurora and the what was it SR seventy four
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or something, the V shaped one that you know everybody
was seeing and thinking was a UFO and all this.
I do know there's there's probably technology that we would say, wow,
we did not know that we had something like that.
Now some people might say that we have that because
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we have back engineered things that have been found like
for instance at Roswell where you've done a lot of
research another you know, maybe Area fifty one, or you know,
any of those stories that we've heard from the past.
But I have to think, and I have seen someone
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sort of go out and reach create at the Capitol
that that formation that looked like it was flying over
the top, and the guy actually showed exactly how that
happened with an iPhone camera. It was the reflection from
the ground, and he recreated it exactly. And then he
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did the same photograph with a really good camera, and
you didn't have that, you didn't have those artifacts, you know,
that were left by the camera. But that was only
you know, one one picture. I mean, there's definitely something
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going on, but who is it and what is it?
That's the thing. The thing that makes me suspicious is
that we're not engaging them at all. And that could
be go either one or two ways. That could be
either there so advanced and we know it that we
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couldn't possibly do anything, so we don't go up there
and start a big fight with them, or we already
know who and what it is and we're not worried
about it us any other. If it's a foreign and
if it's a foreign government, or if it's extraterrestrial, we
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should be really looking at it, you know, they should,
especially if it's if it's a foreign enemy. Why wouldn't
we be up there with our jets, you know, chasing
them off, or with our drone system. We've got an
incredible drone system in the United States to take out drones,
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but nothing like that is even being considered. So is
that because we know that they're alien and we can't
do anything, or is it because we know that it's
our stuff and we don't want to do anything to it.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Oh, it's hard to tell, you know. I've been thinking
all the possibilities that could be, uh, you know, part
of all these and you know we have forgotten about AI.
You know, it's too difficult to nowadays to tell what
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is true or not from our yeah perspective, from a screen,
you know, if we are not seeing from our own
with our own eyes, it's hard to tell. You know.
It's like, yeah, I don't I don't like to be
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in the position because I have to say that I
have the chance to be, you know, a weakness of
some sightings. Yes, And it's hard. It's hard to tell
because the cameras never are never that good, you know,
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to capture what you are seeing. But though now you
know you can recreate everything with AI. So it's hard
to tell what's going on right now, is if it
is some purpose or not.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
But we've got people, you know, on the ground, you know,
in New Jersey citizens who are reporting these constantly. And
the interesting thing is, well, one of the interesting things
is that they stay in the sky for like days.
In a drone, you know, battery does it. We don't
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know any drones that can last that long. Now this
might be a new drone, but they stay in the
sky unlike a real drone, and they make a lot
of noise. They sound like an airplane. And some people
have said, or it's been suggested that maybe it's UFOs
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and they're sort of cloaking themselves to look like drones.
And you know, normally people don't report a lot of
sound from a UFO, so maybe they're making noise so
that we think it's something more simple. But there are
a lot of people reputting and the FBI is investigating.
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Now I'm not sure they're definitely investigating the ones in
the UK that are hanging around US military basis. So
I mean, unless the FBI I is fooling us and
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saying they're investigating something when they're really not, because they
already know what it is. To me, that's kind of
interesting and and tends to lend credibility that they I mean,
there's certainly something up there. There's certainly something going on,
but I just don't know why we can't you know,
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are the powers that be here or elsewhere can't figure
out what it is?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah? Actually, uh, we have a friend of our agag
I mean g g A. That's John Burrows.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Uh rnderssom Forest.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yes, sir, we could. I haven't talked with him, uh
for a long time. Bad Maybe we could ask him
what's going on there, But yeah, for sure I couldn't.
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You know, I'm not that kind of people that that
could pick one side, you know, one one kind of conclusion.
It could be anything. I mean, uh, We've been discussing
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these uh with people that is around the UFO phenomena
for a long time ago, about being drones that could
be intelligent being that could be AI from other worlds.
You know. Also it's not necessary AI made by our
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computers could be you know, any other kind of intelligence.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Well, you know people that have experienced close encounters you know,
or so called UFO abductions. I was just watching a
video on the Pasca Goula case last night that a friend, Kendecosta,
who's with kJ RA, sent over to me show that
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he produced on the Pasca Goula case, and I got
really caught up in it. And it's interesting you know,
the parallels between things that are happening today and in
that case. But and it just seemed to be very,
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very credible. But you know, that's case is still being
debated in that I guess that was also in the seventies,
that case, but it was It's really interesting how all
this stuff is happening and people are seeing it, and
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yet nobody's come out and done a press conference on
it and said, you know, okay, I know this is
worrying people. So you know, here's the explanation or or whatever.
It just seems like there's something in the way of
calming you know, people down that the government should be doing.
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And then you heard about that weird prediction that we're
ai prediction that was made back in nineteen was it
nineteen seventy nine or no, nineteen ninety I think it
was that predicted this mass showing up of alien craft
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and it predicted that it would happen on December the fourth,
which was yesterday.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Whoa.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And so that's been on people's minds and like as
they've been out there looking around, Okay, is it happening. Well,
then we've got all this stuff, so what is that about?
Is that part of this revelation of extraterrestrials or is
it something they're doing on purpose, whoever they are, you know,
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maybe our own government, who knows, too distract us from
something else.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
That's a good question. I mean, I don't know. Maybe
these this kind of sightings has you know, happened a
lot of times before us, you know, who know, all
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our generations that we are being experience this phenomenon. We're
expecting to know the truth, you know, that's part I
know that that's part of our how can I call
it our finitude, you know, our short life experience, So
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we want to know everything before we.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, we do. That's our nature.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
We're curious beings exactly. So I don't know, maybe we
should think about this like enjoy you experience, you know,
dealing with this kind of unknown phenomenon. Ah, this is
the kind of I didn't use to think that the
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way that last year. It was funny because it was
my last night in Roswell. I was like for a
month there we were enjoying with Toby, you know, Toby
Martinez who is the host of Mark by this guy
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in kg.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Ra A.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
With Bill. We were enjoying our last night there I
had to come back to Argentina and we had a
citing that last like forty five minutes. And that's not
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a you know, a coincidence or whatever. It's like I
used to think that, Okay, I misunderstood this. Maybe it
was a sidealite anything you know this, you know, but
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it wasn't. So what what we expected or what we
saw that night was something truly bizarre and what was
above our comprehension, you know, far of our comprehension.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Can you describe it?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah, for sure, it was. I think it was after
dinner time, around.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Ten pm nighttime.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah, nighttime. It was summer. That was I can't remember
the date. That was July the tenth, you know, ten pm.
We were just hanging out on his front yard at
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Toby's Attobi's. Yeah. Yeah. We start seem some kind of
orbs you know, goofer around. It's hard to see, you know,
like it looked like kind of intelligence on those lights.
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I would describe it at that time like lights. But
I told Toby, hey, what's going on there? Oh, it's
hard to see, you know. It's like maybe we're confusing
some kind of bugs or whatever, you know, summertime. Yeah,
but then probably after ten minutes, we saw pretty huge
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orb like orange glowing orb. It was coming I wouldn't
say uh above us. It was like in our direction,
but it was like coming. We were like, well, let
me see uh uh east west, you know, and this
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light was going north sound it was going like north
uh norwek or something like. It was pretty close but
wasn't going you know, directly to us. We could see it.
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It was let me tell you this, some hours ago
it was raining in Roswell, so the clouds were you
know around, so we could see that or going you know,
up and down the clouds. So that was pretty wow, bizarre.
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At that time we said, yeah, that's not a plane,
that's not a satellite, you know, and for for an instance,
it got bigger, like in the size was strange, you know.
After that, I said this last night forty five minutes, right, wow, So.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Did you get video?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
We got part of it, but you know, cameras are
not that good for a night vision, so part of it. Yeah.
When when it was pretty bright at the beginning of
that siting it was, we cut it on video and
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then uh, we could start seeing some kind of bean
light in the middle of the clouds, you know, like
I couldn't describe anything like some kind of light doing
a scan scanning.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Kind of thing, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, and it was like we were like what is
this is? That's that was the point that we knew
that we were dealing with something uh common, you know. Yeah.
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A few minutes after that, we started seeing like green
lights spinning around, So that was like, what what the
heck is this?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
You know, after the or there were green lights spinning.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
After that beam, after that beam light you know, yeah,
I don't know after we we we we discussed that
the night after that, and it felt that that was
kind of a portal or whatever, you know what. It
was strange because you know, between those forty five minutes
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didn't happen anything. Then we saw that we thought that
everything was going quiet. So it was you know, inside
the house and I was still in my phone trying
to pick something, and I got an ord that came
pretty close to me. I always say, like, I don't know,
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fifty yards, you know, pretty close, but it wasn't like
a split of a sick And I got it on
my cell phone and I couldn't see it anymore. It
was like a flashlight. So after that, I was trying
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my software, you know, my video software, and I could
see the movement of that light coming next to me
and then going out like in a split of a
sick and you know that even the frames you know,
looked like pretty pretty slow to get the movement of
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that that light you can see, you know, doing like
a six act and going out. Yeah, I'm glad. I'm
glad that I got I caught it on video because
uh And it's funny though, because you know, Toy and
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I we are researchers. We we work with this as
you do, but we we didn't want to talk about
this sighting for a lot of months after that. You know,
it was like, oh, I don't know. I was here
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in Argentina already and I was like, I don't know
if I wanted to talk about this with people. You know.
It's like that's interesting, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Why wouldn't you know unless there was I was going
to ask you if you heard any noise, any sound,
or if you had any person options or feelings, like
did you feel like they were sort of doing this
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for you, like like they intended for you to see them?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Ah, that's that's crazy because That's how it felt. You know. Uh,
we didn't hurt any noise we were expecting because we
were trying to figure out it was a kind of
a plane or you know, helicopter or whatever, or even
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a drone. You know, they make noise, the one we know,
but it didn't make any kind of noise. I would
say that for sure. It looked they look like they
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they were intelligent, you know. Uh, it felt that they
could predict the movement of our eyes, our eye you know, yeah,
because I I remember that. I was like, Okay, what's
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what's the next thing that they're going to do. And
you are thinking, you know they're going to you know,
glow or whatever, and they do it.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
You know, they do right like you knew what was
going to happen next, Like they were they were letting
you know what they were going to do next.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Or Yeah, it felt that they were I could describe
it like kids, you know, playing around, falling around the sky.
That could be my description of they. They they sorry
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the behavior of those ights.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
You know, like they were playing with you, like playing around. Yeah,
but showing off, kind of a showing off.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
It didn't feel you know, any kind of threat. Nothing.
They weren't showing off for sure.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
You know, if if there were to be some sort
of a you know, revelation of ets coming uh into
our atmosphere that you know, in some kind of mass way,
I expect them to kind of come in that sort
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of way to make it look like, you know, look,
we're not threatening, We're just you know, we're having fun.
And I have this crazy thing that I have, this
recurring dream my whole life, and I call it my
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end of the World dream. But in my end of
the world dream, and it started when I was a
little girl, I would be outside and I would just
see mass groups of UFOs and different shapes and different
you know, different formations, but all kinds of craft and
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they were just calming coming coming there was just like
this guy was full of them. And in my dream,
on the bottom of at least one of them, they
were like projecting cartoons. And I thought later, you know,
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when I was older, I thought, but why would that?
I think, Well, maybe they were trying to not be scary,
you know, So it was like you could it was
like a screen in the sky, you know, like a
Goodyear blimp or something, but it was cartoons. And what
was really interesting was many years later I got involved
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in researching alien abductions to the extent that I actually
went and studied to become a hypnotherapist and started a
group here with a couple of other women in Los
Angeles called Zero Close Encounters Research Organization, which still still
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exists to this day, but I was one of the founders.
And so we would have these monthly meetings and invite
people who felt that they had had alien abduction experiences,
and we had a questionnaire that we'd have people fill
out and everything, and one of the questions that I
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put on was do you have an end of the
world dream? And I can't tell you how many people
had that exact same dream. They might be in a
different location, like they might have been standing out by
the ocean, but it's the same story. UFO is coming
and coming. And when I, you know, became a little
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bit older, I thought, this isn't the end of the world,
but this is the end of the world as we
know it. This is going to be a completely different
place now. And it's so weird because it's like, is
this going to really happen? Is my dream, you know,
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going to come true? But it's just strange that I
had that dream over and over and over again. And
how many other people who had had alien experiences, uh,
or at least felt that they did, I had the
same dream. I never gave them any hints. Just do
you have an end of the world dream? And what
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is it? You know.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
It is? I don't know. I don't think that that
I have a recurrent, though I had dreams that that
I felt that there was some kind of you know,
kind of a change of an era and with UFOs involved.
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But yeah, for sure, if if we started, you know,
dealing with this kind of intelligence and everything changes, that
will change for sure, Uh, the world as we know it.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I worry about people that are really you know, staunch
in their religious beliefs, and how will they how will
they handle this? Will this you know, will they be
able to process this? Okay, you know and come out
on the other end, Uh? I mean just people in general.
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You know, you don't have to be you know, religious
person to be frightened death or you know. But I'm
just wondering how people will process such a thing if it,
if indeed it ever really does happen. Okay, I don't
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know why, but I say that now and then it's
going to happen and you'll see me like running from
the hills. But I feel like at least I wouldn't
find it as shocking as some people might.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Let me tell you this, I find I find it funny.
Maybe people won't, but you know, religion and politics, they
always had an explanation. They will say, Okay, this is
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this was reading on our books, so yeah, we misunderstood
the interpretation, so this is what's meant to be. Yeah,
I don't know, maybe.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
We'll figure it out. Yeah, but oh my goodness, yeah,
it would be It would be amazing and to see
how things would change, a lot of YouTubers and other
influencers that I've seen have been talking about some kind
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of a shift in you know, who we are, what
we're doing, and like some sort of an ascension of humanity,
like some sort of a maybe evolution that we're heading
toward that. But maybe we're not moving, you know, quickly
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enough obviously, because if we were evolved, we wouldn't be
fighting each other all the time and killing each other
and everything else. So I wonder if if this has
anything to do with something like that, like trying to
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help usher us into a new way because these same
people that talk about this idea of ascension, one of
them being Ellie on Human Ascension with Ellie on KGRA,
She's got some wonderful shows talking about this very thing.
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But I wonder if you know, part of part of
the reason if they are here is because things are
so bad, you know, like you said, the wars in
the Middle East, in Ukraine and you know, threats of
a big, big war. You know, maybe they're saying, wait
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a minute, you know, we've got resources there, you know
that we want to save and it's really all about
the planet rather than about us, because we're just messing
everything up.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Uh. You know what, just I got a recall when
you were saying that, because I'm truly, I truly believe
that if there is some kind of evolved intelligence dealing
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or you know, interacting with us, uh, to be that intelligence,
they had to be in through you know, war or whatever,
you know, to to be fighting. They had to be
spiritual somehow to call it, you know, evolved. So kind
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of remind me. I'm pretty sure you you you saw
that that film. Uh, that's funny the name artificial intelligence,
you know, after you know that robot that what's the
name of that he was a great actor, that kid. Yeah,
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I can't remember the name of that guy. But you know,
after his character the robot go through all these generations
and meet the the aliens, they were just kind and
you know, open and everything. So I think if we
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are dealing with that, we we we shouldn't be worried
about any kind of you know, what we did as
a species with you know, other cultures. Uh. I think
if they needed to you know, ah, you know, show
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up or whatever we want to call it. Uh, they
are going to do it like a referee, you know,
like in the middle of a match. Okay, guys, stop it.
You know, this is it. You know. I think that's
the only the only thing that I think that they
(43:04):
could make, like a violent or unexpected apparition on our
matters as a human species. I hope they do, you know,
before we we make a huge mistake. You know, I
(43:27):
don't know, it's hard to tell because, uh, maybe maybe
this is going to be a little political, you know,
but after because I had the experience you know, to
go to some countries, after you meet people and you
(43:48):
interact with them and everything, you know that we have
the same kind of needs. Yeah, everyone loves their families.
We we love to you have social relationships to makes
us evolve and have fun and everything. So I don't
(44:10):
know why. I don't know why there are these kind
of fights between us.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, when you meet people on an individual basis, it's
just they're just a person. But when you're like standing
back and trying to paint a whole group with one brush,
then you know you're not getting an accurate reading because
(44:40):
people are people everywhere you go. You know, it's really
wonderful to be able to have the opportunity to travel. Now.
I haven't traveled a lot because I just keep going
back to the same place all the time. Now, but
you know, I have coupled a little bit, and it's
(45:00):
it's so nice to sort of just embrace another culture
and enjoy their music, their food, you know, their company
and all that. It's just hard to kind of understand
why we continue to keep ourselves divided into camps, you know,
(45:24):
warring camps. It's just and you know, and not to
upset anyone, but unfortunately most of the wars, you know,
have some sort of a religious element to them. They're
fought in the name of religion, and it's like, Okay,
killing in the name of the Lord, is that a
(45:45):
good thing?
Speaker 3 (45:46):
No?
Speaker 2 (45:46):
I don't think so killing is never good. So yeah,
I think we just need to be more open to
each other and what each other brings to the table,
because every culture has wonderful things.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
To show. I'm pretty sure that's probably the the I'm
I don't know how to explain it. That the closest,
the closest way to to be, you know, next to
(46:25):
this kind of intelligence, you know, to be in ah,
to be good from the heart. You know. It's like,
I'm pretty positive that And this is kind of a
(46:46):
discussion that we have and I have with with some
research around the globe. You know, every time we are thinking, oh, no,
we have to sure these technology is so we can
be stronger for our future wars or whatever. It is
(47:08):
so reverse engineer, you know, and that's why we are
so advanced. And I don't think there are boundaries, you know,
on this kind of phenomenon, any kind of phenomenon, you know.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
So apparently you know, and I do see. This just
sounds logical that if there is some mass landing siding,
you know, disclosure something that really lets the cat out
of the bag. Then I do feel like people are
(47:51):
going to look more at their brother and sister earthlings
a little bit, you know, feel a little bit closer
to them, you know, because you know, we we don't
know what this other being is all about, or where
they come from or anything like that, but we know
(48:15):
we know Earthlings, And I feel like everybody's going to
sort of band together and be more be more helpful
if something like that ever happens. But I guess we'll see,
you know, I have I'm sorry, I've let the time
go byboss, but we've only got about, oh, i'd say,
like eight minutes left. Do you I know we were
(48:38):
going to talk about this weird cult in Argentina that
ended up in mass murders somehow do you think we
have time to tell that story?
Speaker 3 (48:54):
I can try for sure.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
So this is a village, a village in Argentina, right.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yeah, it used to be just like, I don't know
how to call it, but you know a few people,
you know, living in almost a village, you know, right,
it's kind of tinier, right, But this this happened on
(49:24):
nineteen eighty eight. If I'm not wrong, what happened actually
a woman that was feeling sick. She was trying to
get to the doctor. And probably the next town was
(49:48):
like one hundred miles from that village. And at that
time on that village there wasn't cars or whatever they
were going to expect, you know, and I don't think
it that kind of village had a phone, so they
will have to wait for the post office man or
(50:14):
someone like that. Right, So they didn't have enough time,
so they went with their own how can I call it?
I explain you, but I want to use the wrong word.
Kind of chief of.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
The community, the head of the head of the group.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
Yeah, the head of the group, because.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Was shaman or a medicine man or it could.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Be related to that. Because they were native people, so
they were expecting you know, that woman seems she couldn't
go to a doctor in time. He could help her
with their own you know, traditions and I don't know
(51:11):
how to call it spellings or whatever. But when that happened,
that chief, that chief, he was already taught about the
what kind of culte sorry I lost the penteconsal Sorry,
(51:34):
he was taught about their thoughts about actually the end
of the war, after the New millennium and everything. So
there were mixing some kind of cultures believe so uh,
this this chief thought that this woman was curious by
(51:58):
some demons, so mhm, he went with his community. He
brought this woman and tried to spell the demons of
her out of her. But and they end up killing her,
you know, smashing her call and everything. But after that,
(52:23):
I don't know what happened truly, but what I read
the kids supposedly and these were these chief kids starting
to uh talk in tongues, so they tried to make
kind of an exorcism from his own kids. Yeah, and
(52:48):
the community ended up killing them also. Wow, so uh
to to to be sure this story, I think they
killing some kind of seven or eight people on their
own community because they believe this was a sign of
(53:11):
the the end of the word demons coming to their
own community.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
And after that woman was sick, they thought she was
she was. Yeah, oh gosh, that's terrible, it was.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
But what what happened after that was even worse. So uh,
I think it was just a guy who used to
you know, came through the town and bring groceries, you know,
a dealer. Find out one of the bodies and he
(53:54):
came back to his his town and called the police,
and then they came and find out what happened. These
people were saying, we didn't know what we were doing.
You know, this was out of our comprehension. Ah. So
(54:16):
a lot of people anthropologists, they was said that they were.
There wasn't kind of you know, a paranormal phenomenon going.
There was a kind of crash of cultures that, uh,
they didn't know how to handle the situation between their
(54:38):
own ancestral buildings and this new Pentecostal you know, religion,
religion and end of the world and everything. So no
one went to jail, you know, because they thought that
these people were you know how they call it.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
When they were they were sincere. They were telling the truth.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
They uh, you know kind of it's not the word,
but I don't know that they were like under nuts,
you know in that situation. Yeah, they were like in
the trance, you know, all right, they.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
Were kind of hypnotized or something or exactly.
Speaker 3 (55:23):
It wasn't mass trans that they weren't doing what what
they wanted to do, you know, they they weren't trying
to heart that people was something that they believe in
that you're a.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
Similar case, just not that long ago here in California.
And it was, uh, this small church that was being
held in this guy's house. Anyway, this young woman had
a little girl, was three, I think, and she was
(55:59):
crying and and so she took her daughter to the
church and the minister happened to be her father, and
it was a little baby's grandfather, and she said she's
demon possessed, and so they just did all this stuff
to her for like forty eight hours and she died.
And it's just like they don't know. I'm like, well,
(56:19):
we were we weren't doing anything wrong, you know, but
they just, oh, it was just it's terrible. But yeah,
religion can sort of be weird sometimes, that's for sure.
But go on with these UFOs. But we're all out
of time, so we're going to have to go. But
(56:43):
what can you tell us about TikTok. We want everybody
to follow our TikTok k And what is the address.
It's kgrg B Underscore one or something like that.
Speaker 3 (56:55):
It is kg R A t b uh. You can
find us on TikTok, YouTube, shorts, Instagram, Instagram, X Yeah,
for sure, go for it. We have almost I would say,
like we are reaching the two hundred shorts and they
(57:20):
are all new, completely different, uh stories about UFOs and
paranormal from around the world. So thank you. That's so great.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
On that because we needed it. You're doing such a
great job. So I hope everybody will go check out
our social media on all those different platforms that Maximo
just mentioned.
Speaker 3 (57:48):
Yeah, for sure. And if you have any kind of
conclusion and you want to you know, submit.
Speaker 2 (58:02):
Or even submit something they'd like to see, you know,
that would be that would be great too. All right. Well,
Bill's gonna get mad at me for going over time. Bill, Yeah,
we love you Bill. He can't be mad at us
for long, all right, Maximo, thank you and thanks everyone
for tuning in, and we will see you next week.
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(01:35):
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an extensive library there and other things for people to
look at. We'll have a few items for sale, but
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and sculptures and other other things that artists and artisans
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oh my goodness, chigong yoga and some other of those
types of classes and things, and guest speakers in the
(02:41):
evenings and also movie nights. So we should be busy
over there.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
We won't be opening up until probably uh late summer,
I would think, but we're going to start working on
the renovations immediately and as soon as we can get
it together, and we're going to start at the bottom
so that the business end of the property is the
first to open before the actual residential part, so we'll
(03:10):
be working before we're living there. So anyhow, I hope
you'll all think about looking us up. The name of
the center and you can look us up on Facebook.
It's called La Confluence, which is Law Confluence. And the
reason that I chose that name is because the new
center sits right at the confluence of two rivers, the
(03:33):
Ode and the Sols. And in some of my research
and studies about different cultures and different ideas in different symbolism,
I found that a confluence of two bodies of water,
two rivers coming together, is supposed to be a very
powerful place. I would think that it might have something
(03:57):
to do with the energy that's generated by the moving
water or something like that. But they say that if
you meditate at the confluence of two rivers, or if
you sleep, you'll have amazing visions. So maybe maybe I'll
get a chance to try that out. I don't know
what the mayor is going to think about me sleeping
(04:18):
out there in the middle of town, but we'll see. Anyhow,
I hope you'll all look us up on the confluence
and join our group and see what we're doing, and
we'll be posting new information there really shortly. There's some
things up now, but it's going to really pick up
(04:39):
speed as we go forward. But anyhow, enough about all that, uh,
and I want to bring on tonight's guest who happens
to be a colleague of mine. He is a UFO
journalist and researcher and he's also a content creator for
kg R a G and he is in charge of
(05:02):
our social media. So I would like to bring on
from Argentina, my colleague Maximowell. There you go. I was
trying to.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Do it all.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
How are you.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Pretty good? You?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Is that? Are you outside? Or is that? Oh is
that a green screen? Or do I know doesn't look
like you.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I don't know if I am allowed to, you know,
be in doing a postcast on the side.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
What you know, outside the covers? What are you outside?
Dunkin Donuts or something there?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Oh no, it's a shop, gift shop from Roswell. Yeah,
I took that picture.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Oh that's great. I love that.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I might get into Roswell a little bit later too,
but I know that, you know, you know, I've been
talking about you know, different you know, strange things and
of course, the latest uh sightings of these so called
drones or whatever they are, has really got people, got
(06:23):
people going, and I know, uh, some people it seems
like might be going a little bit overboard with it.
But I'm not so sure. But what do you think
about it? Uh, talking about these drones that are over Washington,
(06:44):
d C. New Jersey and the UK, and some people
are saying Russia.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I don't want to be hated, you know. That's my
point that I think, Uh, we we have to be
you know, cautious with all of these uh sounds to
(07:13):
be too good to be true. I don't know. It's
hard to say we we are dealing with if it
is true? What what? What's going on that we are
dealing with some kind of straterrestrial you know, force or technology.
(07:39):
I don't know. There is a lot of going on
right now. You know, it's hard to say, but we've
been so close this last a month uh two Uh,
you know, w W the third I don't want to
(08:02):
say the yeah, yeah, So I don't know. I don't know.
I know that drones are taking a lot of part
of the conflict in Ukraine. So uh, it's hard to
say what's going on uh. And I think that technology
(08:26):
is like so advanced in the last I don't know,
twenty years that maybe we're not recognizing what is you know,
close to our understanding for one way to put.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
It right, I mean, obviously we've always got black projects
that are much more advanced than you know what what's
a parent Uh, And it's point they finally you know,
reached the public eye. I can remember several of those,
the Aurora and the what was it SR seventy four
(09:10):
or something, the V shaped one that you know everybody
was seeing and thinking was a UFO and all this.
I do know there's there's probably technology that we would say, wow,
we did not know that we had something like that.
Now some people might say that we have that because
(09:34):
we have back engineered things that have been found like
for instance at Roswell where you've done a lot of
research another you know, maybe Area fifty one, or you know,
any of those stories that we've heard from the past.
But I have to think, and I have seen someone
(09:58):
sort of go out and reach create at the Capitol
that that formation that looked like it was flying over
the top, and the guy actually showed exactly how that
happened with an iPhone camera. It was the reflection from
the ground, and he recreated it exactly. And then he
(10:20):
did the same photograph with a really good camera, and
you didn't have that, you didn't have those artifacts, you know,
that were left by the camera. But that was only
you know, one one picture. I mean, there's definitely something
(10:40):
going on, but who is it and what is it?
That's the thing. The thing that makes me suspicious is
that we're not engaging them at all. And that could
be go either one or two ways. That could be
either there so advanced and we know it that we
(11:02):
couldn't possibly do anything, so we don't go up there
and start a big fight with them, or we already
know who and what it is and we're not worried
about it us any other. If it's a foreign and
if it's a foreign government, or if it's extraterrestrial, we
(11:28):
should be really looking at it, you know, they should,
especially if it's if it's a foreign enemy. Why wouldn't
we be up there with our jets, you know, chasing
them off, or with our drone system. We've got an
incredible drone system in the United States to take out drones,
(11:50):
but nothing like that is even being considered. So is
that because we know that they're alien and we can't
do anything, or is it because we know that it's
our stuff and we don't want to do anything to it.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Oh, it's hard to tell, you know. I've been thinking
all the possibilities that could be, uh, you know, part
of all these and you know we have forgotten about AI.
You know, it's too difficult to nowadays to tell what
(12:33):
is true or not from our yeah perspective, from a screen,
you know, if we are not seeing from our own
with our own eyes, it's hard to tell. You know.
It's like, yeah, I don't I don't like to be
(12:55):
in the position because I have to say that I
have the chance to be, you know, a weakness of
some sightings. Yes, And it's hard. It's hard to tell
because the cameras never are never that good, you know,
(13:16):
to capture what you are seeing. But though now you
know you can recreate everything with AI. So it's hard
to tell what's going on right now, is if it
is some purpose or not.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
But we've got people, you know, on the ground, you know,
in New Jersey citizens who are reporting these constantly. And
the interesting thing is, well, one of the interesting things
is that they stay in the sky for like days.
In a drone, you know, battery does it. We don't
(13:57):
know any drones that can last that long. Now this
might be a new drone, but they stay in the
sky unlike a real drone, and they make a lot
of noise. They sound like an airplane. And some people
have said, or it's been suggested that maybe it's UFOs
(14:21):
and they're sort of cloaking themselves to look like drones.
And you know, normally people don't report a lot of
sound from a UFO, so maybe they're making noise so
that we think it's something more simple. But there are
a lot of people reputting and the FBI is investigating.
(14:44):
Now I'm not sure they're definitely investigating the ones in
the UK that are hanging around US military basis. So
I mean, unless the FBI I is fooling us and
(15:04):
saying they're investigating something when they're really not, because they
already know what it is. To me, that's kind of
interesting and and tends to lend credibility that they I mean,
there's certainly something up there. There's certainly something going on,
but I just don't know why we can't you know,
(15:26):
are the powers that be here or elsewhere can't figure
out what it is?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah? Actually, uh, we have a friend of our agag
I mean g g A. That's John Burrows.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Uh rnderssom Forest.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yes, sir, we could. I haven't talked with him, uh
for a long time. Bad Maybe we could ask him
what's going on there, But yeah, for sure I couldn't.
(16:09):
You know, I'm not that kind of people that that
could pick one side, you know, one one kind of conclusion.
It could be anything. I mean, uh, We've been discussing
(16:30):
these uh with people that is around the UFO phenomena
for a long time ago, about being drones that could
be intelligent being that could be AI from other worlds.
You know. Also it's not necessary AI made by our
(16:56):
computers could be you know, any other kind of intelligence.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Well, you know people that have experienced close encounters you know,
or so called UFO abductions. I was just watching a
video on the Pasca Goula case last night that a friend, Kendecosta,
who's with kJ RA, sent over to me show that
(17:28):
he produced on the Pasca Goula case, and I got
really caught up in it. And it's interesting you know,
the parallels between things that are happening today and in
that case. But and it just seemed to be very,
(17:51):
very credible. But you know, that's case is still being
debated in that I guess that was also in the seventies,
that case, but it was It's really interesting how all
this stuff is happening and people are seeing it, and
(18:15):
yet nobody's come out and done a press conference on
it and said, you know, okay, I know this is
worrying people. So you know, here's the explanation or or whatever.
It just seems like there's something in the way of
calming you know, people down that the government should be doing.
(18:41):
And then you heard about that weird prediction that we're
ai prediction that was made back in nineteen was it
nineteen seventy nine or no, nineteen ninety I think it
was that predicted this mass showing up of alien craft
(19:04):
and it predicted that it would happen on December the fourth,
which was yesterday.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Whoa.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And so that's been on people's minds and like as
they've been out there looking around, Okay, is it happening. Well,
then we've got all this stuff, so what is that about?
Is that part of this revelation of extraterrestrials or is
it something they're doing on purpose, whoever they are, you know,
(19:35):
maybe our own government, who knows, too distract us from
something else.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
That's a good question. I mean, I don't know. Maybe
these this kind of sightings has you know, happened a
lot of times before us, you know, who know, all
(20:05):
our generations that we are being experience this phenomenon. We're
expecting to know the truth, you know, that's part I
know that that's part of our how can I call
it our finitude, you know, our short life experience, So
(20:30):
we want to know everything before we.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, we do. That's our nature.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
We're curious beings exactly. So I don't know, maybe we
should think about this like enjoy you experience, you know,
dealing with this kind of unknown phenomenon. Ah, this is
the kind of I didn't use to think that the
(21:01):
way that last year. It was funny because it was
my last night in Roswell. I was like for a
month there we were enjoying with Toby, you know, Toby
Martinez who is the host of Mark by this guy
(21:23):
in kg.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Ra A.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
With Bill. We were enjoying our last night there I
had to come back to Argentina and we had a
citing that last like forty five minutes. And that's not
(21:49):
a you know, a coincidence or whatever. It's like I
used to think that, Okay, I misunderstood this. Maybe it
was a sidealite anything you know this, you know, but
(22:09):
it wasn't. So what what we expected or what we
saw that night was something truly bizarre and what was
above our comprehension, you know, far of our comprehension.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Can you describe it?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah, for sure, it was. I think it was after
dinner time, around.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Ten pm nighttime.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah, nighttime. It was summer. That was I can't remember
the date. That was July the tenth, you know, ten pm.
We were just hanging out on his front yard at
(23:05):
Toby's Attobi's. Yeah. Yeah. We start seem some kind of
orbs you know, goofer around. It's hard to see, you know,
like it looked like kind of intelligence on those lights.
(23:27):
I would describe it at that time like lights. But
I told Toby, hey, what's going on there? Oh, it's
hard to see, you know. It's like maybe we're confusing
some kind of bugs or whatever, you know, summertime. Yeah,
but then probably after ten minutes, we saw pretty huge
(23:53):
orb like orange glowing orb. It was coming I wouldn't
say uh above us. It was like in our direction,
but it was like coming. We were like, well, let
me see uh uh east west, you know, and this
(24:21):
light was going north sound it was going like north
uh norwek or something like. It was pretty close but
wasn't going you know, directly to us. We could see it.
(24:46):
It was let me tell you this, some hours ago
it was raining in Roswell, so the clouds were you
know around, so we could see that or going you know,
up and down the clouds. So that was pretty wow, bizarre.
(25:11):
At that time we said, yeah, that's not a plane,
that's not a satellite, you know, and for for an instance,
it got bigger, like in the size was strange, you know.
After that, I said this last night forty five minutes, right, wow, So.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Did you get video?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
We got part of it, but you know, cameras are
not that good for a night vision, so part of it. Yeah.
When when it was pretty bright at the beginning of
that siting it was, we cut it on video and
(26:03):
then uh, we could start seeing some kind of bean
light in the middle of the clouds, you know, like
I couldn't describe anything like some kind of light doing
a scan scanning.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Kind of thing, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, and it was like we were like what is
this is? That's that was the point that we knew
that we were dealing with something uh common, you know. Yeah.
(26:46):
A few minutes after that, we started seeing like green
lights spinning around, So that was like, what what the
heck is this?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
You know, after the or there were green lights spinning.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
After that beam, after that beam light you know, yeah,
I don't know after we we we we discussed that
the night after that, and it felt that that was
kind of a portal or whatever, you know what. It
was strange because you know, between those forty five minutes
(27:35):
didn't happen anything. Then we saw that we thought that
everything was going quiet. So it was you know, inside
the house and I was still in my phone trying
to pick something, and I got an ord that came
pretty close to me. I always say, like, I don't know,
(28:01):
fifty yards, you know, pretty close, but it wasn't like
a split of a sick And I got it on
my cell phone and I couldn't see it anymore. It
was like a flashlight. So after that, I was trying
(28:23):
my software, you know, my video software, and I could
see the movement of that light coming next to me
and then going out like in a split of a
sick and you know that even the frames you know,
looked like pretty pretty slow to get the movement of
(28:50):
that that light you can see, you know, doing like
a six act and going out. Yeah, I'm glad. I'm
glad that I got I caught it on video because
uh And it's funny though, because you know, Toy and
(29:14):
I we are researchers. We we work with this as
you do, but we we didn't want to talk about
this sighting for a lot of months after that. You know,
it was like, oh, I don't know. I was here
(29:35):
in Argentina already and I was like, I don't know
if I wanted to talk about this with people. You know.
It's like that's interesting, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Why wouldn't you know unless there was I was going
to ask you if you heard any noise, any sound,
or if you had any person options or feelings, like
did you feel like they were sort of doing this
(30:06):
for you, like like they intended for you to see them?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Ah, that's that's crazy because That's how it felt. You know. Uh,
we didn't hurt any noise we were expecting because we
were trying to figure out it was a kind of
a plane or you know, helicopter or whatever, or even
(30:35):
a drone. You know, they make noise, the one we know,
but it didn't make any kind of noise. I would
say that for sure. It looked they look like they
(30:55):
they were intelligent, you know. Uh, it felt that they
could predict the movement of our eyes, our eye you know, yeah,
because I I remember that. I was like, Okay, what's
(31:18):
what's the next thing that they're going to do. And
you are thinking, you know they're going to you know,
glow or whatever, and they do it.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
You know, they do right like you knew what was
going to happen next, Like they were they were letting
you know what they were going to do next.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Or Yeah, it felt that they were I could describe
it like kids, you know, playing around, falling around the sky.
That could be my description of they. They they sorry
(32:03):
the behavior of those ights.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
You know, like they were playing with you, like playing around. Yeah,
but showing off, kind of a showing off.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
It didn't feel you know, any kind of threat. Nothing.
They weren't showing off for sure.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
You know, if if there were to be some sort
of a you know, revelation of ets coming uh into
our atmosphere that you know, in some kind of mass way,
I expect them to kind of come in that sort
(32:49):
of way to make it look like, you know, look,
we're not threatening, We're just you know, we're having fun.
And I have this crazy thing that I have, this
recurring dream my whole life, and I call it my
(33:12):
end of the World dream. But in my end of
the world dream, and it started when I was a
little girl, I would be outside and I would just
see mass groups of UFOs and different shapes and different
you know, different formations, but all kinds of craft and
(33:35):
they were just calming coming coming there was just like
this guy was full of them. And in my dream,
on the bottom of at least one of them, they
were like projecting cartoons. And I thought later, you know,
(33:58):
when I was older, I thought, but why would that?
I think, Well, maybe they were trying to not be scary,
you know, So it was like you could it was
like a screen in the sky, you know, like a
Goodyear blimp or something, but it was cartoons. And what
was really interesting was many years later I got involved
(34:21):
in researching alien abductions to the extent that I actually
went and studied to become a hypnotherapist and started a
group here with a couple of other women in Los
Angeles called Zero Close Encounters Research Organization, which still still
(34:43):
exists to this day, but I was one of the founders.
And so we would have these monthly meetings and invite
people who felt that they had had alien abduction experiences,
and we had a questionnaire that we'd have people fill
out and everything, and one of the questions that I
(35:05):
put on was do you have an end of the
world dream? And I can't tell you how many people
had that exact same dream. They might be in a
different location, like they might have been standing out by
the ocean, but it's the same story. UFO is coming
and coming. And when I, you know, became a little
(35:28):
bit older, I thought, this isn't the end of the world,
but this is the end of the world as we
know it. This is going to be a completely different
place now. And it's so weird because it's like, is
this going to really happen? Is my dream, you know,
(35:49):
going to come true? But it's just strange that I
had that dream over and over and over again. And
how many other people who had had alien experiences, uh,
or at least felt that they did, I had the
same dream. I never gave them any hints. Just do
you have an end of the world dream? And what
(36:11):
is it? You know.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
It is? I don't know. I don't think that that
I have a recurrent, though I had dreams that that
I felt that there was some kind of you know,
kind of a change of an era and with UFOs involved.
(36:41):
But yeah, for sure, if if we started, you know,
dealing with this kind of intelligence and everything changes, that
will change for sure, Uh, the world as we know it.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I worry about people that are really you know, staunch
in their religious beliefs, and how will they how will
they handle this? Will this you know, will they be
able to process this? Okay, you know and come out
on the other end, Uh? I mean just people in general.
(37:21):
You know, you don't have to be you know, religious
person to be frightened death or you know. But I'm
just wondering how people will process such a thing if it,
if indeed it ever really does happen. Okay, I don't
(37:42):
know why, but I say that now and then it's
going to happen and you'll see me like running from
the hills. But I feel like at least I wouldn't
find it as shocking as some people might.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Let me tell you this, I find I find it funny.
Maybe people won't, but you know, religion and politics, they
always had an explanation. They will say, Okay, this is
(38:20):
this was reading on our books, so yeah, we misunderstood
the interpretation, so this is what's meant to be. Yeah,
I don't know, maybe.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
We'll figure it out. Yeah, but oh my goodness, yeah,
it would be It would be amazing and to see
how things would change, a lot of YouTubers and other
influencers that I've seen have been talking about some kind
(38:57):
of a shift in you know, who we are, what
we're doing, and like some sort of an ascension of humanity,
like some sort of a maybe evolution that we're heading
toward that. But maybe we're not moving, you know, quickly
(39:19):
enough obviously, because if we were evolved, we wouldn't be
fighting each other all the time and killing each other
and everything else. So I wonder if if this has
anything to do with something like that, like trying to
(39:40):
help usher us into a new way because these same
people that talk about this idea of ascension, one of
them being Ellie on Human Ascension with Ellie on KGRA,
She's got some wonderful shows talking about this very thing.
(40:02):
But I wonder if you know, part of part of
the reason if they are here is because things are
so bad, you know, like you said, the wars in
the Middle East, in Ukraine and you know, threats of
a big, big war. You know, maybe they're saying, wait
(40:23):
a minute, you know, we've got resources there, you know
that we want to save and it's really all about
the planet rather than about us, because we're just messing
everything up.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Uh. You know what, just I got a recall when
you were saying that, because I'm truly, I truly believe
that if there is some kind of evolved intelligence dealing
(41:01):
or you know, interacting with us, uh, to be that intelligence,
they had to be in through you know, war or whatever,
you know, to to be fighting. They had to be
spiritual somehow to call it, you know, evolved. So kind
(41:24):
of remind me. I'm pretty sure you you you saw
that that film. Uh, that's funny the name artificial intelligence,
you know, after you know that robot that what's the
name of that he was a great actor, that kid. Yeah,
(41:55):
I can't remember the name of that guy. But you know,
after his character the robot go through all these generations
and meet the the aliens, they were just kind and
you know, open and everything. So I think if we
(42:17):
are dealing with that, we we we shouldn't be worried
about any kind of you know, what we did as
a species with you know, other cultures. Uh. I think
if they needed to you know, ah, you know, show
(42:41):
up or whatever we want to call it. Uh, they
are going to do it like a referee, you know,
like in the middle of a match. Okay, guys, stop it.
You know, this is it. You know. I think that's
the only the only thing that I think that they
(43:04):
could make, like a violent or unexpected apparition on our
matters as a human species. I hope they do, you know,
before we we make a huge mistake. You know, I
(43:27):
don't know, it's hard to tell because, uh, maybe maybe
this is going to be a little political, you know,
but after because I had the experience you know, to
go to some countries, after you meet people and you
(43:48):
interact with them and everything, you know that we have
the same kind of needs. Yeah, everyone loves their families.
We we love to you have social relationships to makes
us evolve and have fun and everything. So I don't
(44:10):
know why. I don't know why there are these kind
of fights between us.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, when you meet people on an individual basis, it's
just they're just a person. But when you're like standing
back and trying to paint a whole group with one brush,
then you know you're not getting an accurate reading because
(44:40):
people are people everywhere you go. You know, it's really
wonderful to be able to have the opportunity to travel. Now.
I haven't traveled a lot because I just keep going
back to the same place all the time. Now, but
you know, I have coupled a little bit, and it's
(45:00):
it's so nice to sort of just embrace another culture
and enjoy their music, their food, you know, their company
and all that. It's just hard to kind of understand
why we continue to keep ourselves divided into camps, you know,
(45:24):
warring camps. It's just and you know, and not to
upset anyone, but unfortunately most of the wars, you know,
have some sort of a religious element to them. They're
fought in the name of religion, and it's like, Okay,
killing in the name of the Lord, is that a
(45:45):
good thing?
Speaker 3 (45:46):
No?
Speaker 2 (45:46):
I don't think so killing is never good. So yeah,
I think we just need to be more open to
each other and what each other brings to the table,
because every culture has wonderful things.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
To show. I'm pretty sure that's probably the the I'm
I don't know how to explain it. That the closest,
the closest way to to be, you know, next to
(46:25):
this kind of intelligence, you know, to be in ah,
to be good from the heart. You know. It's like,
I'm pretty positive that And this is kind of a
(46:46):
discussion that we have and I have with with some
research around the globe. You know, every time we are thinking, oh, no,
we have to sure these technology is so we can
be stronger for our future wars or whatever. It is
(47:08):
so reverse engineer, you know, and that's why we are
so advanced. And I don't think there are boundaries, you know,
on this kind of phenomenon, any kind of phenomenon, you know.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
So apparently you know, and I do see. This just
sounds logical that if there is some mass landing siding,
you know, disclosure something that really lets the cat out
of the bag. Then I do feel like people are
(47:51):
going to look more at their brother and sister earthlings
a little bit, you know, feel a little bit closer
to them, you know, because you know, we we don't
know what this other being is all about, or where
they come from or anything like that, but we know
(48:15):
we know Earthlings, And I feel like everybody's going to
sort of band together and be more be more helpful
if something like that ever happens. But I guess we'll see,
you know, I have I'm sorry, I've let the time
go byboss, but we've only got about, oh, i'd say,
like eight minutes left. Do you I know we were
(48:38):
going to talk about this weird cult in Argentina that
ended up in mass murders somehow do you think we
have time to tell that story?
Speaker 3 (48:54):
I can try for sure.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
So this is a village, a village in Argentina, right.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yeah, it used to be just like, I don't know
how to call it, but you know a few people,
you know, living in almost a village, you know, right,
it's kind of tinier, right, But this this happened on
(49:24):
nineteen eighty eight. If I'm not wrong, what happened actually
a woman that was feeling sick. She was trying to
get to the doctor. And probably the next town was
(49:48):
like one hundred miles from that village. And at that
time on that village there wasn't cars or whatever they
were going to expect, you know, and I don't think
it that kind of village had a phone, so they
will have to wait for the post office man or
(50:14):
someone like that. Right, So they didn't have enough time,
so they went with their own how can I call it?
I explain you, but I want to use the wrong word.
Kind of chief of.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
The community, the head of the head of the group.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
Yeah, the head of the group, because.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Was shaman or a medicine man or it could.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Be related to that. Because they were native people, so
they were expecting you know, that woman seems she couldn't
go to a doctor in time. He could help her
with their own you know, traditions and I don't know
(51:11):
how to call it spellings or whatever. But when that happened,
that chief, that chief, he was already taught about the
what kind of culte sorry I lost the penteconsal Sorry,
(51:34):
he was taught about their thoughts about actually the end
of the war, after the New millennium and everything. So
there were mixing some kind of cultures believe so uh,
this this chief thought that this woman was curious by
(51:58):
some demons, so mhm, he went with his community. He
brought this woman and tried to spell the demons of
her out of her. But and they end up killing her,
you know, smashing her call and everything. But after that,
(52:23):
I don't know what happened truly, but what I read
the kids supposedly and these were these chief kids starting
to uh talk in tongues, so they tried to make
kind of an exorcism from his own kids. Yeah, and
(52:48):
the community ended up killing them also. Wow, so uh
to to to be sure this story, I think they
killing some kind of seven or eight people on their
own community because they believe this was a sign of
(53:11):
the the end of the word demons coming to their
own community.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
And after that woman was sick, they thought she was
she was. Yeah, oh gosh, that's terrible, it was.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
But what what happened after that was even worse. So uh,
I think it was just a guy who used to
you know, came through the town and bring groceries, you know,
a dealer. Find out one of the bodies and he
(53:54):
came back to his his town and called the police,
and then they came and find out what happened. These
people were saying, we didn't know what we were doing.
You know, this was out of our comprehension. Ah. So
(54:16):
a lot of people anthropologists, they was said that they were.
There wasn't kind of you know, a paranormal phenomenon going.
There was a kind of crash of cultures that, uh,
they didn't know how to handle the situation between their
(54:38):
own ancestral buildings and this new Pentecostal you know, religion,
religion and end of the world and everything. So no
one went to jail, you know, because they thought that
these people were you know how they call it.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
When they were they were sincere. They were telling the truth.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
They uh, you know kind of it's not the word,
but I don't know that they were like under nuts,
you know in that situation. Yeah, they were like in
the trance, you know, all right, they.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
Were kind of hypnotized or something or exactly.
Speaker 3 (55:23):
It wasn't mass trans that they weren't doing what what
they wanted to do, you know, they they weren't trying
to heart that people was something that they believe in
that you're a.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
Similar case, just not that long ago here in California.
And it was, uh, this small church that was being
held in this guy's house. Anyway, this young woman had
a little girl, was three, I think, and she was
(55:59):
crying and and so she took her daughter to the
church and the minister happened to be her father, and
it was a little baby's grandfather, and she said she's
demon possessed, and so they just did all this stuff
to her for like forty eight hours and she died.
And it's just like they don't know. I'm like, well,
(56:19):
we were we weren't doing anything wrong, you know, but
they just, oh, it was just it's terrible. But yeah,
religion can sort of be weird sometimes, that's for sure.
But go on with these UFOs. But we're all out
of time, so we're going to have to go. But
(56:43):
what can you tell us about TikTok. We want everybody
to follow our TikTok k And what is the address.
It's kgrg B Underscore one or something like that.
Speaker 3 (56:55):
It is kg R A t b uh. You can
find us on TikTok, YouTube, shorts, Instagram, Instagram, X Yeah,
for sure, go for it. We have almost I would say,
like we are reaching the two hundred shorts and they
(57:20):
are all new, completely different, uh stories about UFOs and
paranormal from around the world. So thank you. That's so great.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
On that because we needed it. You're doing such a
great job. So I hope everybody will go check out
our social media on all those different platforms that Maximo
just mentioned.
Speaker 3 (57:48):
Yeah, for sure. And if you have any kind of
conclusion and you want to you know, submit.
Speaker 2 (58:02):
Or even submit something they'd like to see, you know,
that would be that would be great too. All right. Well,
Bill's gonna get mad at me for going over time. Bill, Yeah,
we love you Bill. He can't be mad at us
for long, all right, Maximo, thank you and thanks everyone
for tuning in, and we will see you next week.
(58:25):
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