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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Night Vision Vision. Following clues left by our ancestors, we
unbury the past to reveal a knowledge of unfathomable value,
putting us just a little closer to our own true birthrights.
From the secret history of a possible bloodline of Jesus Christ,
to secret history of America's founders, to the secret history
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of extraterrestrial interaction on our planet. Here to bring light
to the night. Your host for night Vision Radio Renee Barnett.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Hi, everybody, Welcome to night Vision. Good to be back.
I've been on hiatus for a while. If anybody notice,
I've been watching some reruns here, I guess, But anyhow,
but I'm back and I have a really great show
planned for tonight and very excited and I have been very,
very busy. Many of you know that I am opening
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a center, a research and tour center in Queesa, France, eminently, hopefully.
I'm looking to do our grand opening in late September
if the renovations are all done. It's being all put
together now. I'm really excited about it. And one of
our very first guest speakers there at La Confluence is
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my guest tonight, So you'll get a little sneak preview
of my guest that will be working with us in
October at La Confluence, and that is our center name.
And I chose the name Confluence because the house sits
right at the confluence of two rivers, the Ode and
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the Sauls, and that is supposed to be a very
powerful situation and create a lot of powerful energy. They
say that if you sleep or meditate at the confluence
of a river, that you get visions and dreams and
information that you might not get at another location. So
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I was thinking about the idea of confluence and what
happens is, you know, two rivers join together and they
make a more powerful, bigger body of water. And so
I was thinking about the idea of a confluence of
ideas and a confluence of people, and that's what we're
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working for. Jill Bladen and I are already booking lots
of tours and lots of guest speakers and retreats and
things like that in the region. So if you get
a chance, look up a Confluence on Facebook and we are.
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We do have a new website called Laconfluence dot net,
but right now it's just a landing page with a
little bit of information. But that's quickly being built, so
I hope you will check it out and see it
when it finally launches. We're really excited about it. But
just look up the confluence and I'll put it on
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the screen so you can see the spelling. But on
Facebook and you will see so also you can look
for this symbol on the Facebook page. When you see that,
you'll know you've reached the right page. On Facebook, we
post two or three times a week at least on
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our Facebook page show the progress of the renovations at
the center, what we're putting in, and then we also
talk about who's going to be coming. And pretty soon
we'll have a full calendar that we'll be posting on
the website, so you can always keep on top of
what we might be up to over there. But anyhow,
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with that further adie a nice French word. I'm going
to bring on a nice French guy from Portugal and
his name is Nath and he is from the third
Wish YouTube channel.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Hi Naith, Hi Ronnie. Thank you for having me today.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Oh, thank you for coming. It's it's a pleasure. I
watched you all the time. I just saw your show
with Linda g good old Oklahoma girl like me. She's
from Oklahoma and she's a Native American. Of course, it
was like everybody you know, seems like this Native American
passes through or out of Oklahoma out. But anyhow, that
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was really interesting and that was a that was a
good one. And I saw you the other night with
oh no, don't let me the.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Astrologer and Andre right, Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, that that was really good as well. He's a sweetie,
you know, he's he's just so even keeled.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yes, yes, and you know it's from Spain, so another
European Spanish.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yes, I wanted where he was from, says those wild
you know, tropical backgrounds behind me green screen. But it's
very good, you know, I was thinking about because you
do terot, but you're also psychic, right.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I actually use different card systems. I yes, all the
different cards. Some of them are French, some of them
are more global electoral that most of people know. I
actually also do use different types of UH divination systems.
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I did a presentation the other day on tea leafs,
coffee beefs, three coffee coffee grounds and tea leaves. I'm
using methods of scrying. I actually very passionate about different
types of definition systems because I think this is really
really fun to look at all the different systems, different cultures,
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different areas of the world. This is divination is so old, right,
this is like as old as humans have been on
this planet. And so yeah, I do use tools, but
I mean, obviously I think pretty much anyone who use
those tools also use their psychic abilities. To me, it's
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hand in hand. You use the tool and you use
your intuition and you connect and you get information. That's
really how it works. You can get information without tools,
you can get information from tools with no psychic information,
and you can have both joints. It's it's pretty a
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combination of I feel like the tools such as cards
are there to help you connect because they show you symbols.
So I'm all about using symbolity.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yes, I want to see how some business venture is
going to turn out. And you're going along and you
start seeing, you know, kind of troubling stuff that looks
like might be coming the under way, and then you
see then you get the tower card. And when you
see that in the imagery, do you also feel something, Well,
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mister thought comes in your mind.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
M well, a lot of people, I think, if they're
not super familiar with Trout, would have developed maybe a
negative impression of the tower. But you have to believe
that every card has pos and CO and so the
tower a lot of people feel like it's negative. Not necessarily.
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It could be a release, it could be a freedom.
It could be if you suddenly fall in love with someone.
This is a tower time because it's a shock, right,
So it's not necessary. Yeah, it's not necessarily a bad
things such as for example, on the opposite the sun,
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A lot of people would say, oh, the sun, it's
always positive. Well, the sun can burn. So you have
to always look at the cards considering an energy and
what the other cards say and what your intuition says.
So just seeing a Tower card alone doesn't tell me
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anything I see. Yes, No, I would need more, I
would pull more cards. I would can get it. Yes, yes,
it's really because that's actually the big difference between and
and maybe we will talk about it. AI. You know,
AI can you know, do readings for you. But what
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AI doesn't have is emotions or intuition. And so that's
why you have a reader that can actually feel the
energies and tell you, Okay, I'm seeing the card, but
really I see this.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, and are there any cards that are always negative?
How about the devil card?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
The devil card, of course has some sort of negative
that comes through right away, but you could stretch a
little bit the meaning like that, if you look in
the devil card, there's there's an attachment, right, there's an attachment.
It's it's a bind, it's it could be someone who's
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really really passionate about something. So maybe someone who has
a bit of an addiction, but maybe it could be
a I don't want to say positive addiction, but for example,
maybe someone who's really really passionate about their work and
they're very attached to their work and maybe at a
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particular time that's okay, So he would be an example.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, yeah, oh that's interesting. Uh. You know, I thought
that the carrot cards were actually French, but they originated
in Italy.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
And there's also I think in the Troad there's some
origins that can be traced back to Egypt.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah. Now you know, in fact, maybe I should should
sell show some images too. But I know you have
your own, your own card deck, and it's different than
a tarot deck. Obviously the artwork is different. So like
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if you buy say you bought some cards uh on
Amazon and it was like somebody's angel cards, or how
is it when you're used to reading one type of deck,
you know, how is it going to a different one?
And because it's I don't know, it just seems like
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it would be confusing. That's the Tower card or I
guess it's pretty obvious from the imagery.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
But so a two deck usually no matter what the
atwork is, how's this torture? We seventy eight cards organize
the Sultan way? Now the imagery is different, and I
don't I mean, I feel like the imagery has to
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create a connection between you and the cards that resonates
with you. And that connection between that you develop with
a card is what's going to allow you to read.
So when you buy a deck, I feel like this
is your very first deck. It would be makes sense
that it's like the most traditional one, like the Right
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of Way. But otherwise you can get any any deck
you want. You can as long as you connect with
the cards and you understand their meanings. Some decks really
are a bit extreme in the way that they move
away from traditional meanings. But you know, I think there's
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also an aspect of creativity and art. So a card
is nothing more than a window for you to open
and connect with messages. So as long as it works
at the end of the day, running, that's it.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
That's it. We don't know how it works, but it works.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
And you can tell, like you shove ald deck and
you can say I connect with it. I don't connect
with it. You know you can al really do that.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, I know. I actually have your cards here. Oh oh,
tell me about this one. This is something new. I
don't know what this is.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yes, this is an oracle deck. So this is not tooro.
I actually can show it on the screen as well
as it is.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
It's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Oh yes, yes, and I will show you. So I
just developed. This is not for sale yet, but this
is going to be for sale, and it's an oracle
deck that connects with the whales. And you basically have
forty cards. They all have a message, and I'll show
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you a couple of them. So they have a keyword.
So for example, this one says alignment, this one says friends,
this one says light. But they have themes of the whale.
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I was on an inspiration about whales, reflection, you know,
and so on and so forth, and so an oracle
deck is more free thand there's no rules, so you
can do whatever you want, really completely free. And so
I started to work. I mean it takes about a
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year from the concept of it, which was at that
time that was more than a year ago, really connected
to the whales. I'm still but very deep. And then
working with an artist obviously I'm not an artist. I
could barely draw, and you work with them to design
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the cards and then you create them and they will
serve a different purpose because they're more I wouldn't use
them for like current events or political readings, but I
would use them for personal readings or more psychological readings
like what do I need to do now for my
well being? You know that sort of thing. Wow, so
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this is going to be on sale this month and
it's called Voices of the Wells.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Oh, it's going to be this month.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yes, I am finalizing the point.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
And then what about Mystical.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Tarough of the same? Yes, so there is a said this. Yeah,
those are the cards, so wait to the next one.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, So those are like the standalone cards seventy eight
cards a to row, and then there's a set, kind
of a big set where there's an altar cloth. That's
kind of the next picture. There's the book. There's cards
like postcards or quality cards like art cards. And then
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there's it's it's a limited edition. The envelope has my
signature a number on it from zero to one hundred,
and then there's a box.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yes, it's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
So you can either get just the deck that's like
about thirty dollars or the set, which is like about
ninety something dollars.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Great, it's great, they're beautiful. They're beautiful. Now those he would,
would you? Those are tarot cards?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Those are tarots. So there follow the seventy eight in
the structure with challenge elements. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly what I've
done though, is because this is a tarot of the saints,
I connected the saints with the traditional element of the crops.
So for example, the High Priestess, of course you knew
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I would take this example is Mary Magdalene, so that
makes a lot of sense, and that's actually she's the
icon for this deck.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
You know, we're able to have some in our center. Yes, yes,
stick up that way too, but that won't be for
a little while. So how do people get them? Right? Now?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
You can? I mean, the the mystical Turrot of the
Saints can be found. The deck can be found on
Amazon at Sea, so kind of everywhere. The set is
only found on Etsy, and those cards will come on Etsy,
but on a Kickstarter as a Kickstarter project this month
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in July.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Great, Yes, that sounds very great. Oh so this month.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah, I'm actually finalizing the production of it. So you know,
how it goes.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
There will be last minute glitches you can always beat.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
And it comes with a book that I don't have yet,
but it's written. It's almost two hundred pages book that
goes with this. Yeah, so you can see. I'm in
between readings and YouTube. I am quite busy.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, what what do you prefer? Or is do you
have a preference for either? Yeah, we were talking about
scrip for people that may not know. Scrying is like
looking into a mirror or possibly water, Yeah, and seeing images.
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I've done that a couple of times many years ago,
and I actually did see things. It was kind of freaky.
But can you explain how that works? And do you
look in there and see things in the mirror.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Or do Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I think them.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
So for me, I have a technique that I use
a ball. I fill it up with it's a it's
the I fill it up with black water. You know,
there's a certain kind of water that's black. It's drinkable,
it's but it's black. It's called actually black if you
look for it on the internet. And I fill up
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the ball with black water, so it's totally dark. And
I have some silver ink, so I think of a question,
I dropped some ink and the ink will then start
to take shape. And then I would as you kind
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of meditate and watch the movement, then your intuition slash imagination,
the connection with spirit will guide you to the answer.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Wow. Is that sort of the same with tea leaves
that yes, No, you just look at them and you're
in there sort of there's some shapes there.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
And yeah, it's like a test, you know, it's like, yes,
look like to you Yes with tea. With coffee grounds,
I have a little story about coffee because I mean
the culture of coffee. Coffee grounds divination is very predominant
from Turkey, the country of Turkey, and so a couple
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of years ago, this was my first ever trip to Turkey,
and I said, well, I need to read myself my
cup and so I was at a cafe. It was beautiful.
It was actually in Bodroom, which is like a seaside town,
and so I was at the cafe, was very relaxing.
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I ordered the Turkish coffee and I did my own
first time reading in Turkey with the coffee ground. And
I still have the photo. When I flipped the cup,
there was very clear, like it was nothing left to
the imagination. What looked like a witch with the broom
and everything, and it says a symbol of being psychic,
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the attrition, and so it was just like a spot
on and it was like super clear, like yes, show this,
and everyone's say, yeah, I see, I.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Knew we use your imagination now.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I was shocked with all the details, all the details
that all the grounds left perfectly.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
You took a picture of it. Oh, yes, Oh, I'll
have to see it sometimes.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yes, yes, I'll stand it to you. Cool is I
wasn't you know, like this is one of the coolest
things when I discuss I don't know who I was
talking recently, but that was a psychic and we were
talking about kind of what it's like and and I
think something that we agree is like even though we know,
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we're still shocked by those things, even though yes it's normal,
we actually this is something we practice, but just having
the validation and it's something that I actually happened in
my life where you always, I think, in any kind
of work that you do, you always have those phase
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of doubts, you know, imposter syn the room and whatnot,
and so but I've always noticed in the big phases
of time where I doubted myself, something massive would come
that very dates massive massive, wow, like supernatural massive, that
would just tell you, okay, stop doubting.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
That is amazing. Now when did you first, like pick
up the cards?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
So before I pick up the card, I was getting
messages at eight or nine years old, So what kind.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Of things, what kind of messages were you getting? Things
about it Grandma's going to die or exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
That you must be exactly that. So I was exactly
You're spot on your intuition. I was at my I
was at my grandmother, I mean exactly, and she was
in perfect health, I mean perfect, she was in good health.
And when it was time to say goodbye, I went
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to hug her and I heard the voice but like clear,
hug her, real, real tight, it's the last time. And
the next day the police came. I was living with
my parents as a child and she had a car
accident and she was.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Gone, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
So oh it was very I remember all those different feelings,
the sadness, but also I was too scared to tell
someone I knew it, because I felt like if I tell, well,
I knew it, like what you hell? What you didn't
tell anyone? But it wouldn't have helped anyone.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
True.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
It was like you know, you hear the message. Like
I was not in panic because it was clear to
me that it was faith. There was no nothing, we
could do nothing, it was it.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Was a message just for you, you, because it was
you that was there, and they gave you that advice,
you know, hugre very tired.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
And then after that I started to read the playing
cards because we had playing cards at home as a
child as children, and so I was using the cards
but my parents thought I was playing with them, but no,
I was reading them. Wow, and I was. They were
saying stop, don't say silly things, and then things would happen.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
So when you would say something, uh, did they try
to say, discourage you or were they behind the idea
all the way?
Speaker 3 (25:51):
They didn't really With my parents there didn't really care
too much about divination. I have memories of my dad
seeing a card reader, but I other than that, I
don't think it was well accepted. It was it was
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a Catholic background, and my other grandmother was like, oh,
never talk to me about this, like this is evil. Yeah,
this is evil. Don't touch that. You're going to be
in trouble. And so, but my mom has a lot
of intuition, so you know, we all do.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, I agree with that very well do.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
That's why when I hear people say, oh, thank you
for your gift, I hear that a lot, and that
somewhat makes me feel uncomfortable because I think it's some
it's not a gift. I think it's something that is
more developed in me that can be on another person.
But I feel we all have that ability. We can
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all draw, but some draw better than others. It's the
same thing to me, right, and so I think it's
also what I found in this field is that how
do you get better is practice. It's like it's hard
work and practice. Yeah, I have done in the last
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five years, twenty thousand readings.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
So it's not going to the gym and a workout.
You just keep working that muscle.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And then when you I would imagine you talk to
people about all kinds of things. But I would imagine
that most of the time, and correct me if I'm wrong.
It's someone is having an issue with something. Someone has
got a problem and they want to know how it's
going to be solved or if they can solve it,
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or are things going to get better? That sort of thing.
And is there what one thing that you hear most
from people? I know that I believe that this is
true that several years ago people that would read would
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say their biggest question was am I going to find
my soulmate? And I feel like today that's not probably
the number one question. Uh, it's more like am I
going to be okay? You know it's you know, it's
going to settle down?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
And so the things are changing, The types of questions
are changing depending on how the current times. I would say,
still the main questions are love related. I love someone
and it's not quite right, like either the person's not
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available or not reciprocating, or there's like some sort of
issues with their love story. That's a big one. But unfortunately,
since they you know, we're in this economy, global economy,
lots of questions about finances and money and jobs right now.
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This is like very very much. Also, I'm a bit
disturbed by the younger generations, like twenty twenty five years
old up to thirty years old. You wouldn't be very
surprised that a lot of the questions they ask is
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about social.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Media, about social media what it is?
Speaker 3 (30:01):
So it's it's like usually a love question related to someone,
but it really it really turns into a social media question.
I liked his post, but he didn't like my post.
He liked me on Facebook but didn't like me on Instagram.
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I've idelited me from Snapchat and I'm not really a
social media user, so I had to.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
So so it's sad.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
It's really sad, running because I see through my readings
the damage social media is doing on people, and right
there's been a shift that rather on asking about their lives,
they're asking about their social media lives.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Right, Oh goodness, that's that's really sad. I mean, honestly,
I'm kind of glad I didn't grow up with that. Yeah,
you know, I think, I mean, yeah, it was probably
more boring times, but it didn't feel like it, you know,
and you definitely got together with people and in person,
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and that was the thing to do, is you know,
you know, go see your friends or have them come
see you. You know, you always wanted to be with
your friends, and now it's not quite that way. I've
got three twenty five year olds in the house. One
of them belongs to me, the other two I picked
up along the way. But they are very big into
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social media, and some more than others. And but I
think they're fairly well balanced. There's one that's kind of
too much into it, but the other two seem to
balance out you know, real life and and online stuff.
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But I can see how that could be a real problem,
especially for really young people who have grown up with
that and nothing else, you know.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yeah, and also as a psychic, you I see the
challenges that online dating has created because in one way,
it makes meeting someone very easy, but it gives people
obviously a lot of option and choices, too many, possibly,
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And so I call it a little bit the candy store,
where oh I can be with this person, I can
be with this person, I can be with this person,
and at the end, I'm not seeing a lot of
happy people. Yes, they have choices, but they cannot come
at the end of all these exhausted from online along
probably yes, And so I see these just from the
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lengths of a psychic. I'm not but you know, we
do a lot of psychology and sociology to this job.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yep. Well, you know, it's very easy for someone to
put their best foot forward and their best image online
and you know, sustain it for a while. But it's
you know, if you don't meet them in person and
get to know them that way first, then you know
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they could be completely different and they're coming across online.
I mean, it could even be a different person. But
let's say it is a person that's representing themselves. It's
of course they're going to pick the very best photograph.
Of course they're going to be on their best behavior,
you know, But you don't have that luxury of being
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in someone's presence and the luxury of time to get
to know someone before you leap. But yeah, I feel
bad for young people. I feel like it's much much harder.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
It is harder, even though the internet has given more options.
It's a paradox, you know, like we never communicated, we
never communicated that much as much as we do now,
and yet we don't already talk to each other and
yet we communicate so much. Yeah. Yeah, it's such a paradox.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
It is, it really is. I know that, you know,
for the longest time, Uh, none of my kids would
ever talk on the phone. Just text tex, text, text textext,
chext and you know, and then they I'd say, did
you find out what time we're supposed to be there? Well,
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I send them a text. They haven't answer to pick
up the phone and call. It's instant. It's amazing, you know,
but how much how it's like, oh my goodness, But yeah,
it's I think it's really difficult for young people. And
I wonder now I get this sense that young people
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don't have the best outlook on the future generally, and
that they think that a lot of them now think
that a degree means nothing. You know, that it's not
the same as it used to be that you know,
if you had a degree, you could do well. And
it just seems like there's not a lot of hope,
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you know, for the future. It's sort of like we
got to live for the moment. Who knows what's going
to happen next or you know, in ten years. So
do you find that in young people that there's sort
of a fatalistic idea, Well, it doesn't matter anyway, you know.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I feel like it's true that they're more in the
moment because the way the world is primarily if you
really look at climate change, we're told that maybe in
thirty years we're doomed. So I feel like if I
was hearing that today, I would think about what people do.
(36:28):
They don't buy a place, they rent because what's the
I rather use my money to enjoy it. So the
mentality has changed, and so true readings, Their questions have changed.
They they're not already asking long term questions.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah, speaking of the climate, Uh, I hear it's quite
hot over there where.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
You Yeah, bound the heat you know, it is hot
in heart degrees.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I'm going like, oh my gosh, it's just too hot
to do anything outdoors.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
It's been it's been really getting more and more every
single year. I think Europe is impacted by climate change
very much more than other continents. I think he might
and the rains when it trains, it's pretty intense, so.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Those rivers too flowed away. Yes, but yeah, I've noticed
they've been having extreme heat, you know, year by year
in France. I keep an eye on stuff. They had
a lot of droughts, then they'll have the floods. It's
(37:52):
like when it runs wars. But you know, it's usually
just just uh. And I've started to say hot and dry,
but it's hot and humid, you know. That's what gets
me when I'm there, because I mean California. Although it
does get really hot here, sometimes we don't really have
(38:13):
that humidity situation going on. It's more of a desert climate,
so it's more dry. And when I go, I know,
to France, usually the first two or three nights, I
just I just perspire in my sleep because of the humidity,
and it just feels sticky when I wake up in
the morning. And somehow, I guess my body adjusts to
(38:35):
it because after a couple of days and then I'm fine.
But yes, we do have and I don't understand this
denial of the climate change. I mean, I guess I
do from certain people, because there are people, of course
that want to see you know, fossil fuel business continue
to thrive but it's just it's so obvious. You know,
(39:00):
anybody that's been on the earth for more than twenty
years knows it's getting hotter every time. I mean, I've had,
you know, the thermometer on my patio here. You know,
we do fahrenheit here and I don't put it in centigrade,
but it's uh, you know, it was one hundred and
(39:20):
twelve one day, and I thought, that's just I could
cook in that, you know.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
You know. The the other things that is also visible
as kind of a proof of climate change is have
you noticed or you will notice if you do long flights,
So let's say from you fly from the US to France,
for example, it takes a certain amount of time to
go this way. When you go the other way, there
(39:51):
could be two or three hours different. Yes, it was
not like that before.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Oh it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
No, it was not. It's a actually expanding and it's
a reflection of the wind and the climate and everything.
They call it the streams, yeah, the jet streams. And
so that's also another aspect where I mean like now
they're like two hours such different. It's just great, it's
the same difference.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah, it's eleven over and thirteen back, I think or yeah,
remember which one is against the jets. Yes, I think
it's coming back as longer.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
So and it was not. I mean before you maybe
have an hour maximum and now it's over two hours.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yes, that is true. It is longer, it seems.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
And shorter on the way. So that's like another sign.
The animals. We've lost a lot of animals, like variety
of animals in the ecosystem. I think, like I've read
like maybe seventy percent of the insects type.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Yeah. I know that there was a big problem with
the lack of bees and be necessary and I don't
know if they've sort of boosted the bee population and
they were working on it, but I don't know how
that's going. But anyhow, we.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Did a little.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Beehive. Uh now, let's if you don't mind. I mean,
you know, it's a parent You know that in the
United States we have a very very divided population and
it just seems like there's nothing, you know, butting heads,
(41:47):
you know, and we're talking at each other, not to
each other, and of course both sides feel that they're right,
we know, But anyway, but do you see any coming
(42:07):
together of people honestly, I thought possibly with the with
the reaction of most people to this big beautiful bill
that they're passing. You know, everybody's got a problem with
something in it, you know, it seems like, and I
wonder whether having that common issue is going to sort
(42:33):
of bring the population together, because I mean, I just
feel like people should realize, you know, we're all in
it together, and it's really not us against each other.
It's kind of us against them, you know, and we've
got to look out for ourselves and for each other.
Do you ever see that happening again, that you know
(42:54):
in America, that people will appreciate each other again.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
And yeah, I feel like things are going to be
more peaceful. I think the biggest issue really when you
discuss us versus them, and the two camps and the
two sides fighting, what is really sad? And I think
everyone would agree on each something that everyone would agree
(43:20):
that it has broken families, it has divided friendships, it
has created situations in the workplace, it has damaged a
lot of families, and so there's a realization that it's
really bad, like people who don't talk to their brothers
and sisters because of this. And I think that to
(43:45):
me is the one thing that will bring people together,
because it just doesn't feel right that politics will separate
us within our own families. We've never seen this before.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
S that have been friends for years, you know, don't
speak to each other any other. It's really sad and unbelievable.
Will we start listening to each other again? Because I
feel like we're just talking to each other.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
I feel that, you know, not in the next few years.
We need to pass kind of like one or two cycles,
maybe generational cycles.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I'm enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
And also, I think what brings people together is when
people we just talked about it climate change. When your
house is on fire, it doesn't really matter if you're
a Democratic or a probably can your house is on fire,
that's really I mean.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yes, people are going to come and put it out. Yes, yeah, well,
I mean it's true that any extreme circumstances people can
come together, like you know, I don't even oh, I
guess it was Reagan, Ronald Reagan that was talking about,
you know, what would happen if extraterrestrials, yes, you know,
(45:16):
came then suddenly we would all forget about our differences,
you know, and we wouldn't say, oh, that person is
a you know, from that race or that race or
that culture. It wouldn't matter. We're all humans, you know,
and these guys, we're not sure what they are. So suddenly,
you know, the guy that you couldn't stand is you know,
(45:38):
the guy that you're leaning on because you're fellow humans.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
But we I mean, unfortunately, that hasn't been enough because
there's been UFOs and ets and and so that has
und pretty of course, not in the mainstream kind of ways,
but there's enough evidence, I mean that has been actually
read by you know, the government, the Pentagon, the FBI,
(46:04):
that there's been you know, UFO activities, and so that's
not even for debate anymore.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
No, And it's hard for me to even believe that
because for so long they've just made a joke out
of it, you know. And that's really bad, you know,
because there are people that had experiences or sightings or
(46:33):
whatever and they're just getting basically laughed at or called
a liar, you know. And now suddenly those same people
that would say no, it's not true and laughing at
you are saying, well, yeah, maybe it is true. I
guess it is. I couldn't tell you before, but you know,
so it's it's I would imagine that would be very frustrating.
(46:57):
You know, it's been a lot of time researching UFOs
and I was the managing editor of GFO magazine for
five years and did his show exclusively on UFOs. And
you know, during all during the time that which was
mostly during the nineties, you wouldn't get blip out of
(47:20):
the government, No, or NASA, which is of course connected
to the government. Yes, but we would try so hard
to get any tidbit of real information so that it
wasn't just you know, accounts or sightings. We actually had
some science or some evidence from the government to back
(47:41):
it up, but we couldn't get anything out of them.
And what do you think is going on with these
extraterrestrials or whatever they are.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
I feel like they're very concerned. I felt they're very
concerned to see the situation on Earth politically, but also
with what we discussed with global warming, because the Earth
is in danger, right and to some degree I think
it impacts them. Uh So, I think they I mean,
(48:17):
of course we don't have any proof of that, but
they're probably no longer just visiting, but they're intervening, like
of trying to avoid situations on our behob.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
And how do you see them intervening? Do you tee? Like,
I know that there have been occasions where there have
been UFO activity and then you know, like the nuclear
weapons were shut down. They you know, they didn't know
what was wrong, but it just so happened. There was
outside when it happened. I know they and I'm wondering,
(49:00):
and you know, when will they intervene? What's going to
have to happen? I mean, we just you know, been
bombing the heck out of people and other people going
the heck out of other people, and like Ukraine, the
Middle East, you know.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
They could probably intercept missiles.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Maybe and maybe they have.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
And maybe they have already exactly they probably have, Yeah,
and it's probably documented and we don't know about it,
but they can I connect to that energy feeling that
they can't intervene, and they are intervening.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
What about negative forces out there? I mean I would
imagine there's not just one group. There's probably all kinds
of groups from different places. So are there negative groups
that don't have our best interests at heart?
Speaker 3 (50:05):
I haven't really come across that, but they are obviously
bad people out there, surely so, But I don't see
that as a group. I see that as individuals that
can form a group, but it is not a whole race. Yes, yes,
(50:32):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Yeah. No, do you already representing themselves more publicly?
Speaker 3 (50:42):
The UFOs are the ets or.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Ets that are on board the UFOs. Do you see
them ever?
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Really themselves? And how do you see that occurring? Do
you think they would reveal themselves to world leaders or
just regular people?
Speaker 3 (51:04):
I feel more regular people, And what.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Would be the purpose in that? Just to reassure or.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Make contact, show their presence, kind of introduce themselves in
a certain way. It is I feel like they have already.
I mean a lot of people have connected with it
tis and it's not something that I do. But I
(51:36):
mean in the psychic world, a lot of people just
channel them and I get their information. And yeah, I
have never really done that. I'm not sure why.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
I just.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
I prefer to resolve everyday people's problems. That's more my things,
like I'm not you know, I cannot. It's not like
I don't care, but I find as fascinating helping people
get aunt on why they're not getting a job and
helping them get the job that excites me.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
I'm sure that that excites your clients as well, because
you like, yeah, the world could be crashing around you,
but you still have to feed your kids or you know,
pay your rent. So it's like, you know, finances and
that sort of thing seem to be utmost in per
(52:36):
right now.
Speaker 3 (52:37):
And I mean, like I, I, you know, like I
totally like some It's interesting Sometimes people apologize and they say, oh,
given everything going on, I feel so bad about asking.
But yeah, you think my car is gonna last? Well,
that's a very valid question. Sure, that's a very valid question.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Yes it is. Yeah, I mean it's your life, you know,
there couldn't be anything more important. Yes, But I well,
do you have any thing you'd like to share?
Speaker 3 (53:11):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (53:12):
One thing is you do readings. You do private readings,
do and you do remote readings so that anyone anywhere
can availure themselves of your services. And I believe I
have the correct link here to look an appointment, and
(53:35):
it is https colon forward slash forward slash link t
R dot e E forward slash The Third Wish and
Nate's show on YouTube is the Third Wish. I watch
it all the time. I would do the same. And
(53:58):
he's kind of new but growing fast, don't you agree.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
I know I started in January. This YouTube channel I
started in January, and yeah I have and I have
eighteen thousand subscribers, so I am really shocked how quickly
thinks when you start in cards on the link that
you shared, you actually people can access I do. I
(54:27):
also have classes. People can download the class and learn
to row learn. I have all kinds of downloable downloadable
classes find on the same link. And they can also
book so live reading, which would be like like this,
like on zoom or on the phone. I even do
(54:50):
fifteen minutes, thirty minutes or one hour appointments. The fifteen
minutes because sometimes people have one quick question and they
just want to and you know, a small amount of
money for this question, and it's fair. And I also
do a service that people like a lot. It's a
three questions video or reading. So you pay the fee
(55:14):
and you can email me three questions and I respond
with a video with my readings on the three questions.
So there's no appointment to be made.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
It's just like you're just send in your questions. Yes,
and neither one of you have to take a particular time.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
Out because always you have to find time zones on
the line, and people are just they'd rather send their
questions and they get me doing the reading live but
on a video.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
Yeah. Yeah, well guys, it has been great. The hours
gone by really fast. We got to do it again.
Maybe we'll think of a good theme and get more
into I can talk you to doing the cards.
Speaker 3 (56:01):
And yes, yes, I would love I may.
Speaker 2 (56:03):
I don't know, see you cry that would be.
Speaker 3 (56:06):
Oh I can do that live, Yes, I can do that.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
A scrier on YouTube, Uh, his channel is crying out loud.
Have you seen him?
Speaker 3 (56:17):
No, that's I like the name.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
Check him out. His name is a Trevor I believe.
But it's YouTube channel is crying out loud and he's
pretty good. To check him out. But uh, there's so
many talented people out there.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
It's it's so many. It's just fascinating. And a lot of.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
Times they're saying the same thing, so that gives it
a little bit more credibility there, you know, if everybody's
saying the same thing, maybe maybe Yeah, all right, Nathan.
Speaker 3 (56:49):
Thank you for having me, Rennie.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
I will see you in October.
Speaker 3 (56:53):
If not before, Yes, live in person.
Speaker 2 (56:56):
Live in person. All right, everyone, Thank you so much,
thank for joining us. Hope you'll be back next week
for another new edition of night Vision. Thanks so much,
you
Night Vision Vision. Following clues left by our ancestors, we
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Speaker 2 (00:46):
Hi, everybody, Welcome to night Vision. Good to be back.
I've been on hiatus for a while. If anybody notice,
I've been watching some reruns here, I guess, But anyhow,
but I'm back and I have a really great show
planned for tonight and very excited and I have been very,
very busy. Many of you know that I am opening
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a center, a research and tour center in Queesa, France, eminently, hopefully.
I'm looking to do our grand opening in late September
if the renovations are all done. It's being all put
together now. I'm really excited about it. And one of
our very first guest speakers there at La Confluence is
(01:31):
my guest tonight, So you'll get a little sneak preview
of my guest that will be working with us in
October at La Confluence, and that is our center name.
And I chose the name Confluence because the house sits
right at the confluence of two rivers, the Ode and
(01:53):
the Sauls, and that is supposed to be a very
powerful situation and create a lot of powerful energy. They
say that if you sleep or meditate at the confluence
of a river, that you get visions and dreams and
information that you might not get at another location. So
(02:16):
I was thinking about the idea of confluence and what
happens is, you know, two rivers join together and they
make a more powerful, bigger body of water. And so
I was thinking about the idea of a confluence of
ideas and a confluence of people, and that's what we're
(02:36):
working for. Jill Bladen and I are already booking lots
of tours and lots of guest speakers and retreats and
things like that in the region. So if you get
a chance, look up a Confluence on Facebook and we are.
(03:00):
We do have a new website called Laconfluence dot net,
but right now it's just a landing page with a
little bit of information. But that's quickly being built, so
I hope you will check it out and see it
when it finally launches. We're really excited about it. But
just look up the confluence and I'll put it on
(03:22):
the screen so you can see the spelling. But on
Facebook and you will see so also you can look
for this symbol on the Facebook page. When you see that,
you'll know you've reached the right page. On Facebook, we
post two or three times a week at least on
(03:43):
our Facebook page show the progress of the renovations at
the center, what we're putting in, and then we also
talk about who's going to be coming. And pretty soon
we'll have a full calendar that we'll be posting on
the website, so you can always keep on top of
what we might be up to over there. But anyhow,
(04:04):
with that further adie a nice French word. I'm going
to bring on a nice French guy from Portugal and
his name is Nath and he is from the third
Wish YouTube channel.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Hi Naith, Hi Ronnie. Thank you for having me today.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Oh, thank you for coming. It's it's a pleasure. I
watched you all the time. I just saw your show
with Linda g good old Oklahoma girl like me. She's
from Oklahoma and she's a Native American. Of course, it
was like everybody you know, seems like this Native American
passes through or out of Oklahoma out. But anyhow, that
(04:46):
was really interesting and that was a that was a
good one. And I saw you the other night with
oh no, don't let me the.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Astrologer and Andre right, Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, that that was really good as well. He's a sweetie,
you know, he's he's just so even keeled.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yes, yes, and you know it's from Spain, so another
European Spanish.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yes, I wanted where he was from, says those wild
you know, tropical backgrounds behind me green screen. But it's
very good, you know, I was thinking about because you
do terot, but you're also psychic, right.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I actually use different card systems. I yes, all the
different cards. Some of them are French, some of them
are more global electoral that most of people know. I
actually also do use different types of UH divination systems.
(05:52):
I did a presentation the other day on tea leafs,
coffee beefs, three coffee coffee grounds and tea leaves. I'm
using methods of scrying. I actually very passionate about different
types of definition systems because I think this is really
really fun to look at all the different systems, different cultures,
(06:15):
different areas of the world. This is divination is so old, right,
this is like as old as humans have been on
this planet. And so yeah, I do use tools, but
I mean, obviously I think pretty much anyone who use
those tools also use their psychic abilities. To me, it's
(06:39):
hand in hand. You use the tool and you use
your intuition and you connect and you get information. That's
really how it works. You can get information without tools,
you can get information from tools with no psychic information,
and you can have both joints. It's it's pretty a
(07:01):
combination of I feel like the tools such as cards
are there to help you connect because they show you symbols.
So I'm all about using symbolity.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yes, I want to see how some business venture is
going to turn out. And you're going along and you
start seeing, you know, kind of troubling stuff that looks
like might be coming the under way, and then you
see then you get the tower card. And when you
see that in the imagery, do you also feel something, Well,
(07:41):
mister thought comes in your mind.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
M well, a lot of people, I think, if they're
not super familiar with Trout, would have developed maybe a
negative impression of the tower. But you have to believe
that every card has pos and CO and so the
tower a lot of people feel like it's negative. Not necessarily.
(08:05):
It could be a release, it could be a freedom.
It could be if you suddenly fall in love with someone.
This is a tower time because it's a shock, right,
So it's not necessary. Yeah, it's not necessarily a bad
things such as for example, on the opposite the sun,
(08:26):
A lot of people would say, oh, the sun, it's
always positive. Well, the sun can burn. So you have
to always look at the cards considering an energy and
what the other cards say and what your intuition says.
So just seeing a Tower card alone doesn't tell me
(08:49):
anything I see. Yes, No, I would need more, I
would pull more cards. I would can get it. Yes, yes,
it's really because that's actually the big difference between and
and maybe we will talk about it. AI. You know,
AI can you know, do readings for you. But what
(09:13):
AI doesn't have is emotions or intuition. And so that's
why you have a reader that can actually feel the
energies and tell you, Okay, I'm seeing the card, but
really I see this.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, and are there any cards that are always negative?
How about the devil card?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
The devil card, of course has some sort of negative
that comes through right away, but you could stretch a
little bit the meaning like that, if you look in
the devil card, there's there's an attachment, right, there's an attachment.
It's it's a bind, it's it could be someone who's
(10:02):
really really passionate about something. So maybe someone who has
a bit of an addiction, but maybe it could be
a I don't want to say positive addiction, but for example,
maybe someone who's really really passionate about their work and
they're very attached to their work and maybe at a
(10:24):
particular time that's okay, So he would be an example.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, yeah, oh that's interesting. Uh. You know, I thought
that the carrot cards were actually French, but they originated
in Italy.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
And there's also I think in the Troad there's some
origins that can be traced back to Egypt.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah. Now you know, in fact, maybe I should should
sell show some images too. But I know you have
your own, your own card deck, and it's different than
a tarot deck. Obviously the artwork is different. So like
(11:13):
if you buy say you bought some cards uh on
Amazon and it was like somebody's angel cards, or how
is it when you're used to reading one type of deck,
you know, how is it going to a different one?
And because it's I don't know, it just seems like
(11:38):
it would be confusing. That's the Tower card or I
guess it's pretty obvious from the imagery.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
But so a two deck usually no matter what the
atwork is, how's this torture? We seventy eight cards organize
the Sultan way? Now the imagery is different, and I
don't I mean, I feel like the imagery has to
(12:06):
create a connection between you and the cards that resonates
with you. And that connection between that you develop with
a card is what's going to allow you to read.
So when you buy a deck, I feel like this
is your very first deck. It would be makes sense
that it's like the most traditional one, like the Right
(12:28):
of Way. But otherwise you can get any any deck
you want. You can as long as you connect with
the cards and you understand their meanings. Some decks really
are a bit extreme in the way that they move
away from traditional meanings. But you know, I think there's
(12:52):
also an aspect of creativity and art. So a card
is nothing more than a window for you to open
and connect with messages. So as long as it works
at the end of the day, running, that's it.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
That's it. We don't know how it works, but it works.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
And you can tell, like you shove ald deck and
you can say I connect with it. I don't connect
with it. You know you can al really do that.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, I know. I actually have your cards here. Oh oh,
tell me about this one. This is something new. I
don't know what this is.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yes, this is an oracle deck. So this is not tooro.
I actually can show it on the screen as well
as it is.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
It's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Oh yes, yes, and I will show you. So I
just developed. This is not for sale yet, but this
is going to be for sale, and it's an oracle
deck that connects with the whales. And you basically have
forty cards. They all have a message, and I'll show
(14:09):
you a couple of them. So they have a keyword.
So for example, this one says alignment, this one says friends,
this one says light. But they have themes of the whale.
(14:30):
I was on an inspiration about whales, reflection, you know,
and so on and so forth, and so an oracle
deck is more free thand there's no rules, so you
can do whatever you want, really completely free. And so
I started to work. I mean it takes about a
(14:51):
year from the concept of it, which was at that
time that was more than a year ago, really connected
to the whales. I'm still but very deep. And then
working with an artist obviously I'm not an artist. I
could barely draw, and you work with them to design
(15:11):
the cards and then you create them and they will
serve a different purpose because they're more I wouldn't use
them for like current events or political readings, but I
would use them for personal readings or more psychological readings
like what do I need to do now for my
well being? You know that sort of thing. Wow, so
(15:35):
this is going to be on sale this month and
it's called Voices of the Wells.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Oh, it's going to be this month.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yes, I am finalizing the point.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
And then what about Mystical.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Tarough of the same? Yes, so there is a said this. Yeah,
those are the cards, so wait to the next one.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, So those are like the standalone cards seventy eight
cards a to row, and then there's a set, kind
of a big set where there's an altar cloth. That's
kind of the next picture. There's the book. There's cards
like postcards or quality cards like art cards. And then
(16:28):
there's it's it's a limited edition. The envelope has my
signature a number on it from zero to one hundred,
and then there's a box.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yes, it's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
So you can either get just the deck that's like
about thirty dollars or the set, which is like about
ninety something dollars.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Great, it's great, they're beautiful. They're beautiful. Now those he would,
would you? Those are tarot cards?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Those are tarots. So there follow the seventy eight in
the structure with challenge elements. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly what I've
done though, is because this is a tarot of the saints,
I connected the saints with the traditional element of the crops.
So for example, the High Priestess, of course you knew
(17:26):
I would take this example is Mary Magdalene, so that
makes a lot of sense, and that's actually she's the
icon for this deck.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
You know, we're able to have some in our center. Yes, yes,
stick up that way too, but that won't be for
a little while. So how do people get them? Right? Now?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
You can? I mean, the the mystical Turrot of the
Saints can be found. The deck can be found on
Amazon at Sea, so kind of everywhere. The set is
only found on Etsy, and those cards will come on Etsy,
but on a Kickstarter as a Kickstarter project this month
(18:14):
in July.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Great, Yes, that sounds very great. Oh so this month.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah, I'm actually finalizing the production of it. So you know,
how it goes.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
There will be last minute glitches you can always beat.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
And it comes with a book that I don't have yet,
but it's written. It's almost two hundred pages book that
goes with this. Yeah, so you can see. I'm in
between readings and YouTube. I am quite busy.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, what what do you prefer? Or is do you
have a preference for either? Yeah, we were talking about
scrip for people that may not know. Scrying is like
looking into a mirror or possibly water, Yeah, and seeing images.
(19:13):
I've done that a couple of times many years ago,
and I actually did see things. It was kind of freaky.
But can you explain how that works? And do you
look in there and see things in the mirror.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Or do Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I think them.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
So for me, I have a technique that I use
a ball. I fill it up with it's a it's
the I fill it up with black water. You know,
there's a certain kind of water that's black. It's drinkable,
it's but it's black. It's called actually black if you
look for it on the internet. And I fill up
(19:57):
the ball with black water, so it's totally dark. And
I have some silver ink, so I think of a question,
I dropped some ink and the ink will then start
to take shape. And then I would as you kind
(20:18):
of meditate and watch the movement, then your intuition slash imagination,
the connection with spirit will guide you to the answer.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Wow. Is that sort of the same with tea leaves
that yes, No, you just look at them and you're
in there sort of there's some shapes there.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
And yeah, it's like a test, you know, it's like, yes,
look like to you Yes with tea. With coffee grounds,
I have a little story about coffee because I mean
the culture of coffee. Coffee grounds divination is very predominant
from Turkey, the country of Turkey, and so a couple
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of years ago, this was my first ever trip to Turkey,
and I said, well, I need to read myself my
cup and so I was at a cafe. It was beautiful.
It was actually in Bodroom, which is like a seaside town,
and so I was at the cafe, was very relaxing.
(21:26):
I ordered the Turkish coffee and I did my own
first time reading in Turkey with the coffee ground. And
I still have the photo. When I flipped the cup,
there was very clear, like it was nothing left to
the imagination. What looked like a witch with the broom
and everything, and it says a symbol of being psychic,
(21:49):
the attrition, and so it was just like a spot
on and it was like super clear, like yes, show this,
and everyone's say, yeah, I see, I.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Knew we use your imagination now.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I was shocked with all the details, all the details
that all the grounds left perfectly.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
You took a picture of it. Oh, yes, Oh, I'll
have to see it sometimes.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yes, yes, I'll stand it to you. Cool is I
wasn't you know, like this is one of the coolest
things when I discuss I don't know who I was
talking recently, but that was a psychic and we were
talking about kind of what it's like and and I
think something that we agree is like even though we know,
(22:37):
we're still shocked by those things, even though yes it's normal,
we actually this is something we practice, but just having
the validation and it's something that I actually happened in
my life where you always, I think, in any kind
of work that you do, you always have those phase
(22:58):
of doubts, you know, imposter syn the room and whatnot,
and so but I've always noticed in the big phases
of time where I doubted myself, something massive would come
that very dates massive massive, wow, like supernatural massive, that
would just tell you, okay, stop doubting.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
That is amazing. Now when did you first, like pick
up the cards?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
So before I pick up the card, I was getting
messages at eight or nine years old, So what kind.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Of things, what kind of messages were you getting? Things
about it Grandma's going to die or exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
That you must be exactly that. So I was exactly
You're spot on your intuition. I was at my I
was at my grandmother, I mean exactly, and she was
in perfect health, I mean perfect, she was in good health.
And when it was time to say goodbye, I went
(24:03):
to hug her and I heard the voice but like clear,
hug her, real, real tight, it's the last time. And
the next day the police came. I was living with
my parents as a child and she had a car
accident and she was.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Gone, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
So oh it was very I remember all those different feelings,
the sadness, but also I was too scared to tell
someone I knew it, because I felt like if I tell, well,
I knew it, like what you hell? What you didn't
tell anyone? But it wouldn't have helped anyone.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
True.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
It was like you know, you hear the message. Like
I was not in panic because it was clear to
me that it was faith. There was no nothing, we
could do nothing, it was it.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Was a message just for you, you, because it was
you that was there, and they gave you that advice,
you know, hugre very tired.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
And then after that I started to read the playing
cards because we had playing cards at home as a
child as children, and so I was using the cards
but my parents thought I was playing with them, but no,
I was reading them. Wow, and I was. They were
saying stop, don't say silly things, and then things would happen.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
So when you would say something, uh, did they try
to say, discourage you or were they behind the idea
all the way?
Speaker 3 (25:51):
They didn't really With my parents there didn't really care
too much about divination. I have memories of my dad
seeing a card reader, but I other than that, I
don't think it was well accepted. It was it was
(26:13):
a Catholic background, and my other grandmother was like, oh,
never talk to me about this, like this is evil. Yeah,
this is evil. Don't touch that. You're going to be
in trouble. And so, but my mom has a lot
of intuition, so you know, we all do.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, I agree with that very well do.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
That's why when I hear people say, oh, thank you
for your gift, I hear that a lot, and that
somewhat makes me feel uncomfortable because I think it's some
it's not a gift. I think it's something that is
more developed in me that can be on another person.
But I feel we all have that ability. We can
(27:05):
all draw, but some draw better than others. It's the
same thing to me, right, and so I think it's
also what I found in this field is that how
do you get better is practice. It's like it's hard
work and practice. Yeah, I have done in the last
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five years, twenty thousand readings.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
So it's not going to the gym and a workout.
You just keep working that muscle.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And then when you I would imagine you talk to
people about all kinds of things. But I would imagine
that most of the time, and correct me if I'm wrong.
It's someone is having an issue with something. Someone has
got a problem and they want to know how it's
going to be solved or if they can solve it,
(27:56):
or are things going to get better? That sort of thing.
And is there what one thing that you hear most
from people? I know that I believe that this is
true that several years ago people that would read would
(28:20):
say their biggest question was am I going to find
my soulmate? And I feel like today that's not probably
the number one question. Uh, it's more like am I
going to be okay? You know it's you know, it's
going to settle down?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
And so the things are changing, The types of questions
are changing depending on how the current times. I would say,
still the main questions are love related. I love someone
and it's not quite right, like either the person's not
(29:05):
available or not reciprocating, or there's like some sort of
issues with their love story. That's a big one. But unfortunately,
since they you know, we're in this economy, global economy,
lots of questions about finances and money and jobs right now.
(29:28):
This is like very very much. Also, I'm a bit
disturbed by the younger generations, like twenty twenty five years
old up to thirty years old. You wouldn't be very
surprised that a lot of the questions they ask is
(29:52):
about social.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Media, about social media what it is?
Speaker 3 (30:01):
So it's it's like usually a love question related to someone,
but it really it really turns into a social media question.
I liked his post, but he didn't like my post.
He liked me on Facebook but didn't like me on Instagram.
(30:23):
I've idelited me from Snapchat and I'm not really a
social media user, so I had to.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
So so it's sad.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
It's really sad, running because I see through my readings
the damage social media is doing on people, and right
there's been a shift that rather on asking about their lives,
they're asking about their social media lives.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Right, Oh goodness, that's that's really sad. I mean, honestly,
I'm kind of glad I didn't grow up with that. Yeah,
you know, I think, I mean, yeah, it was probably
more boring times, but it didn't feel like it, you know,
and you definitely got together with people and in person,
(31:17):
and that was the thing to do, is you know,
you know, go see your friends or have them come
see you. You know, you always wanted to be with
your friends, and now it's not quite that way. I've
got three twenty five year olds in the house. One
of them belongs to me, the other two I picked
up along the way. But they are very big into
(31:40):
social media, and some more than others. And but I
think they're fairly well balanced. There's one that's kind of
too much into it, but the other two seem to
balance out you know, real life and and online stuff.
(32:03):
But I can see how that could be a real problem,
especially for really young people who have grown up with
that and nothing else, you know.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yeah, and also as a psychic, you I see the
challenges that online dating has created because in one way,
it makes meeting someone very easy, but it gives people
obviously a lot of option and choices, too many, possibly,
(32:36):
And so I call it a little bit the candy store,
where oh I can be with this person, I can
be with this person, I can be with this person,
and at the end, I'm not seeing a lot of
happy people. Yes, they have choices, but they cannot come
at the end of all these exhausted from online along
probably yes, And so I see these just from the
(33:01):
lengths of a psychic. I'm not but you know, we
do a lot of psychology and sociology to this job.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yep. Well, you know, it's very easy for someone to
put their best foot forward and their best image online
and you know, sustain it for a while. But it's
you know, if you don't meet them in person and
get to know them that way first, then you know
(33:33):
they could be completely different and they're coming across online.
I mean, it could even be a different person. But
let's say it is a person that's representing themselves. It's
of course they're going to pick the very best photograph.
Of course they're going to be on their best behavior,
you know, But you don't have that luxury of being
(33:55):
in someone's presence and the luxury of time to get
to know someone before you leap. But yeah, I feel
bad for young people. I feel like it's much much harder.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
It is harder, even though the internet has given more options.
It's a paradox, you know, like we never communicated, we
never communicated that much as much as we do now,
and yet we don't already talk to each other and
yet we communicate so much. Yeah. Yeah, it's such a paradox.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
It is, it really is. I know that, you know,
for the longest time, Uh, none of my kids would
ever talk on the phone. Just text tex, text, text textext,
chext and you know, and then they I'd say, did
you find out what time we're supposed to be there? Well,
(34:54):
I send them a text. They haven't answer to pick
up the phone and call. It's instant. It's amazing, you know,
but how much how it's like, oh my goodness, But yeah,
it's I think it's really difficult for young people. And
I wonder now I get this sense that young people
(35:18):
don't have the best outlook on the future generally, and
that they think that a lot of them now think
that a degree means nothing. You know, that it's not
the same as it used to be that you know,
if you had a degree, you could do well. And
it just seems like there's not a lot of hope,
(35:44):
you know, for the future. It's sort of like we
got to live for the moment. Who knows what's going
to happen next or you know, in ten years. So
do you find that in young people that there's sort
of a fatalistic idea, Well, it doesn't matter anyway, you know.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I feel like it's true that they're more in the
moment because the way the world is primarily if you
really look at climate change, we're told that maybe in
thirty years we're doomed. So I feel like if I
was hearing that today, I would think about what people do.
(36:28):
They don't buy a place, they rent because what's the
I rather use my money to enjoy it. So the
mentality has changed, and so true readings, Their questions have changed.
They they're not already asking long term questions.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah, speaking of the climate, Uh, I hear it's quite
hot over there where.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
You Yeah, bound the heat you know, it is hot
in heart degrees.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I'm going like, oh my gosh, it's just too hot
to do anything outdoors.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
It's been it's been really getting more and more every
single year. I think Europe is impacted by climate change
very much more than other continents. I think he might
and the rains when it trains, it's pretty intense, so.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Those rivers too flowed away. Yes, but yeah, I've noticed
they've been having extreme heat, you know, year by year
in France. I keep an eye on stuff. They had
a lot of droughts, then they'll have the floods. It's
(37:52):
like when it runs wars. But you know, it's usually
just just uh. And I've started to say hot and dry,
but it's hot and humid, you know. That's what gets
me when I'm there, because I mean California. Although it
does get really hot here, sometimes we don't really have
(38:13):
that humidity situation going on. It's more of a desert climate,
so it's more dry. And when I go, I know,
to France, usually the first two or three nights, I
just I just perspire in my sleep because of the humidity,
and it just feels sticky when I wake up in
the morning. And somehow, I guess my body adjusts to
(38:35):
it because after a couple of days and then I'm fine.
But yes, we do have and I don't understand this
denial of the climate change. I mean, I guess I
do from certain people, because there are people, of course
that want to see you know, fossil fuel business continue
to thrive but it's just it's so obvious. You know,
(39:00):
anybody that's been on the earth for more than twenty
years knows it's getting hotter every time. I mean, I've had,
you know, the thermometer on my patio here. You know,
we do fahrenheit here and I don't put it in centigrade,
but it's uh, you know, it was one hundred and
(39:20):
twelve one day, and I thought, that's just I could
cook in that, you know.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
You know. The the other things that is also visible
as kind of a proof of climate change is have
you noticed or you will notice if you do long flights,
So let's say from you fly from the US to France,
for example, it takes a certain amount of time to
go this way. When you go the other way, there
(39:51):
could be two or three hours different. Yes, it was
not like that before.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Oh it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
No, it was not. It's a actually expanding and it's
a reflection of the wind and the climate and everything.
They call it the streams, yeah, the jet streams. And
so that's also another aspect where I mean like now
they're like two hours such different. It's just great, it's
the same difference.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah, it's eleven over and thirteen back, I think or yeah,
remember which one is against the jets. Yes, I think
it's coming back as longer.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
So and it was not. I mean before you maybe
have an hour maximum and now it's over two hours.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yes, that is true. It is longer, it seems.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
And shorter on the way. So that's like another sign.
The animals. We've lost a lot of animals, like variety
of animals in the ecosystem. I think, like I've read
like maybe seventy percent of the insects type.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Yeah. I know that there was a big problem with
the lack of bees and be necessary and I don't
know if they've sort of boosted the bee population and
they were working on it, but I don't know how
that's going. But anyhow, we.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Did a little.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Beehive. Uh now, let's if you don't mind. I mean,
you know, it's a parent You know that in the
United States we have a very very divided population and
it just seems like there's nothing, you know, butting heads,
(41:47):
you know, and we're talking at each other, not to
each other, and of course both sides feel that they're right,
we know, But anyway, but do you see any coming
(42:07):
together of people honestly, I thought possibly with the with
the reaction of most people to this big beautiful bill
that they're passing. You know, everybody's got a problem with
something in it, you know, it seems like, and I
wonder whether having that common issue is going to sort
(42:33):
of bring the population together, because I mean, I just
feel like people should realize, you know, we're all in
it together, and it's really not us against each other.
It's kind of us against them, you know, and we've
got to look out for ourselves and for each other.
Do you ever see that happening again, that you know
(42:54):
in America, that people will appreciate each other again.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
And yeah, I feel like things are going to be
more peaceful. I think the biggest issue really when you
discuss us versus them, and the two camps and the
two sides fighting, what is really sad? And I think
everyone would agree on each something that everyone would agree
(43:20):
that it has broken families, it has divided friendships, it
has created situations in the workplace, it has damaged a
lot of families, and so there's a realization that it's
really bad, like people who don't talk to their brothers
and sisters because of this. And I think that to
(43:45):
me is the one thing that will bring people together,
because it just doesn't feel right that politics will separate
us within our own families. We've never seen this before.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
S that have been friends for years, you know, don't
speak to each other any other. It's really sad and unbelievable.
Will we start listening to each other again? Because I
feel like we're just talking to each other.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
I feel that, you know, not in the next few years.
We need to pass kind of like one or two cycles,
maybe generational cycles.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I'm enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
And also, I think what brings people together is when
people we just talked about it climate change. When your
house is on fire, it doesn't really matter if you're
a Democratic or a probably can your house is on fire,
that's really I mean.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yes, people are going to come and put it out. Yes, yeah, well,
I mean it's true that any extreme circumstances people can
come together, like you know, I don't even oh, I
guess it was Reagan, Ronald Reagan that was talking about,
you know, what would happen if extraterrestrials, yes, you know,
(45:16):
came then suddenly we would all forget about our differences,
you know, and we wouldn't say, oh, that person is
a you know, from that race or that race or
that culture. It wouldn't matter. We're all humans, you know,
and these guys, we're not sure what they are. So suddenly,
you know, the guy that you couldn't stand is you know,
(45:38):
the guy that you're leaning on because you're fellow humans.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
But we I mean, unfortunately, that hasn't been enough because
there's been UFOs and ets and and so that has
und pretty of course, not in the mainstream kind of ways,
but there's enough evidence, I mean that has been actually
read by you know, the government, the Pentagon, the FBI,
(46:04):
that there's been you know, UFO activities, and so that's
not even for debate anymore.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
No, And it's hard for me to even believe that
because for so long they've just made a joke out
of it, you know. And that's really bad, you know,
because there are people that had experiences or sightings or
(46:33):
whatever and they're just getting basically laughed at or called
a liar, you know. And now suddenly those same people
that would say no, it's not true and laughing at
you are saying, well, yeah, maybe it is true. I
guess it is. I couldn't tell you before, but you know,
so it's it's I would imagine that would be very frustrating.
(46:57):
You know, it's been a lot of time researching UFOs
and I was the managing editor of GFO magazine for
five years and did his show exclusively on UFOs. And
you know, during all during the time that which was
mostly during the nineties, you wouldn't get blip out of
(47:20):
the government, No, or NASA, which is of course connected
to the government. Yes, but we would try so hard
to get any tidbit of real information so that it
wasn't just you know, accounts or sightings. We actually had
some science or some evidence from the government to back
(47:41):
it up, but we couldn't get anything out of them.
And what do you think is going on with these
extraterrestrials or whatever they are.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
I feel like they're very concerned. I felt they're very
concerned to see the situation on Earth politically, but also
with what we discussed with global warming, because the Earth
is in danger, right and to some degree I think
it impacts them. Uh So, I think they I mean,
(48:17):
of course we don't have any proof of that, but
they're probably no longer just visiting, but they're intervening, like
of trying to avoid situations on our behob.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
And how do you see them intervening? Do you tee? Like,
I know that there have been occasions where there have
been UFO activity and then you know, like the nuclear
weapons were shut down. They you know, they didn't know
what was wrong, but it just so happened. There was
outside when it happened. I know they and I'm wondering,
(49:00):
and you know, when will they intervene? What's going to
have to happen? I mean, we just you know, been
bombing the heck out of people and other people going
the heck out of other people, and like Ukraine, the
Middle East, you know.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
They could probably intercept missiles.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Maybe and maybe they have.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
And maybe they have already exactly they probably have, Yeah,
and it's probably documented and we don't know about it,
but they can I connect to that energy feeling that
they can't intervene, and they are intervening.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
What about negative forces out there? I mean I would
imagine there's not just one group. There's probably all kinds
of groups from different places. So are there negative groups
that don't have our best interests at heart?
Speaker 3 (50:05):
I haven't really come across that, but they are obviously
bad people out there, surely so, But I don't see
that as a group. I see that as individuals that
can form a group, but it is not a whole race. Yes, yes,
(50:32):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Yeah. No, do you already representing themselves more publicly?
Speaker 3 (50:42):
The UFOs are the ets or.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Ets that are on board the UFOs. Do you see
them ever?
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Really themselves? And how do you see that occurring? Do
you think they would reveal themselves to world leaders or
just regular people?
Speaker 3 (51:04):
I feel more regular people, And what.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Would be the purpose in that? Just to reassure or.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Make contact, show their presence, kind of introduce themselves in
a certain way. It is I feel like they have already.
I mean a lot of people have connected with it
tis and it's not something that I do. But I
(51:36):
mean in the psychic world, a lot of people just
channel them and I get their information. And yeah, I
have never really done that. I'm not sure why.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
I just.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
I prefer to resolve everyday people's problems. That's more my things,
like I'm not you know, I cannot. It's not like
I don't care, but I find as fascinating helping people
get aunt on why they're not getting a job and
helping them get the job that excites me.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
I'm sure that that excites your clients as well, because
you like, yeah, the world could be crashing around you,
but you still have to feed your kids or you know,
pay your rent. So it's like, you know, finances and
that sort of thing seem to be utmost in per
(52:36):
right now.
Speaker 3 (52:37):
And I mean, like I, I, you know, like I
totally like some It's interesting Sometimes people apologize and they say, oh,
given everything going on, I feel so bad about asking.
But yeah, you think my car is gonna last? Well,
that's a very valid question. Sure, that's a very valid question.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Yes it is. Yeah, I mean it's your life, you know,
there couldn't be anything more important. Yes, But I well,
do you have any thing you'd like to share?
Speaker 3 (53:11):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (53:12):
One thing is you do readings. You do private readings,
do and you do remote readings so that anyone anywhere
can availure themselves of your services. And I believe I
have the correct link here to look an appointment, and
(53:35):
it is https colon forward slash forward slash link t
R dot e E forward slash The Third Wish and
Nate's show on YouTube is the Third Wish. I watch
it all the time. I would do the same. And
(53:58):
he's kind of new but growing fast, don't you agree.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
I know I started in January. This YouTube channel I
started in January, and yeah I have and I have
eighteen thousand subscribers, so I am really shocked how quickly
thinks when you start in cards on the link that
you shared, you actually people can access I do. I
(54:27):
also have classes. People can download the class and learn
to row learn. I have all kinds of downloable downloadable
classes find on the same link. And they can also
book so live reading, which would be like like this,
like on zoom or on the phone. I even do
(54:50):
fifteen minutes, thirty minutes or one hour appointments. The fifteen
minutes because sometimes people have one quick question and they
just want to and you know, a small amount of
money for this question, and it's fair. And I also
do a service that people like a lot. It's a
three questions video or reading. So you pay the fee
(55:14):
and you can email me three questions and I respond
with a video with my readings on the three questions.
So there's no appointment to be made.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
It's just like you're just send in your questions. Yes,
and neither one of you have to take a particular time.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
Out because always you have to find time zones on
the line, and people are just they'd rather send their
questions and they get me doing the reading live but
on a video.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
Yeah. Yeah, well guys, it has been great. The hours
gone by really fast. We got to do it again.
Maybe we'll think of a good theme and get more
into I can talk you to doing the cards.
Speaker 3 (56:01):
And yes, yes, I would love I may.
Speaker 2 (56:03):
I don't know, see you cry that would be.
Speaker 3 (56:06):
Oh I can do that live, Yes, I can do that.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
A scrier on YouTube, Uh, his channel is crying out loud.
Have you seen him?
Speaker 3 (56:17):
No, that's I like the name.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
Check him out. His name is a Trevor I believe.
But it's YouTube channel is crying out loud and he's
pretty good. To check him out. But uh, there's so
many talented people out there.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
It's it's so many. It's just fascinating. And a lot of.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
Times they're saying the same thing, so that gives it
a little bit more credibility there, you know, if everybody's
saying the same thing, maybe maybe Yeah, all right, Nathan.
Speaker 3 (56:49):
Thank you for having me, Rennie.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
I will see you in October.
Speaker 3 (56:53):
If not before, Yes, live in person.
Speaker 2 (56:56):
Live in person. All right, everyone, Thank you so much,
thank for joining us. Hope you'll be back next week
for another new edition of night Vision. Thanks so much,
you
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