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Hi, this is HP from NoiseJunkies and this is Falling Alone from Dark
Destinations. Please join us as weexamine one of the greatest sitcoms in television
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mister Walters. H weirding wave mediaround creeps, gather around fools,
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gather round spirits, and gather aroundghouls. Listen to me, for I
have a story of blackening fright andall things scry and all things noise junkies.
Hello, welcome noise you, fellownoise junkies. If you're listening to
us, we know you are oneof us. Gabba Gaba, we accept
you. And tonight this is avery well every upsete special. But this
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one's super special because we are celebratingthe most atmospherit holiday, the greatest holiday
of all time, the holiday thatstill scares the living bejeebus out of fundamentalist
Christians. So you know it's nearand dear to my heathen heart, I'm
talking about Halloween, ladies and ghouls, and I am so stoked. I'm
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so glad that my lovely we're allhosts. I don't view either one of
us, any of US co hosts. We are like hosts one, two
and cubed. It's a high mind. We're like the borg. You're in
the captain's chair. I am,and I didn't wear a hat before I
even get into my spiel, intothe knee, knuckle deep, into the
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guts of the pumpkin. Here,HP, How the heck have you been?
What have you been up to?I'm doing great, Heather, It's
great to see you. It's beena while since we've gathered to record.
Just you know, as my dadwould say, work, eat, sleep.
That's pretty much it just recording andyeah, looking forward to this.
This is gonna be it's gonna bean interesting show. I think Oh,
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I think so too. And ofcourse, Father alone, the man of
the Dulcet Tones himself, how areyou doing. Oh I'm doing well.
Good evening, and happy Halloween,noise Yonkies. You might be listening to
this in February, doesn't matter.It's Halloween everywhere, all the time.
One hundred percent. Those are wordsright to my little heart right over here.
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I mean minute. Well, ministryprobably would lie about some things,
but when they sang every day isHalloween, that was not a lie.
No, you can't not trust ministry. That's right there in the name.
Well, I think that might actuallybe doubly recent not to trust. But
because you know, we are musiclovers, enthusiasts, obsessos. Two of
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us are musicians. Unless you countthe songs I sing to my My Berdie
Lee Dog and my Presto and Davyboy Cats doesn't count, Okay, I
think so. I don't think theycan't absolutely, But it's just Bobby McFerrin
made a long and lustrous career.His equipment that God provided. That's beautiful.
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Oh my god. They you know, I am often called the Bobby
mcferri in a podcast, so that'ssense of like the Bobby McFerrin after headge
trauma. But of course, becausewe are My point is, because we
are esoteric folk, we're not doingno thrillers. They're not talking about the
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you know Ray Parker Stevens that gotsued by Huey Lewis and the news Ghostbusters
theme her junior Ray Stevenson. Justyeah, I love a Halloween deep cut.
I am personally on the hunt allyear round for songs that are a
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little outside the box to some morethan others, Like some do fit into
it. It's just a lot ofpeople don't know about them as much.
But again, that's why we didthis podcast to help kind of turn you
guys on. Not in that way. That'll come on the February show when
we get Saucy Saucy Saucy Valentine Show. I'm putting that seat out there for
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the record. But no, justlike something, you know, to make
your your pumpkin season a little morefun, a little different, you know.
I think people don't rely on theDrews famous certainly don't rely on kids
bops. I hate it when yougo to a Halloween store and they're playing
Witchy Woman by the Eagles. Whatthe why? Why do you hate me?
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It feels personal. It's from thosegoddamn compilations that have proliferated. It's
we have to hear Ghostbusters, wehave to hear Thriller, we have to
hear anything that vaguely resembles something.If the word evil isn't the title,
it'll be on there. This islike our little magic Salin ritual to write
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some musical wrongs for the season,and they ruin Werewolves of London. Stop
playing it. Yeah, don't wantto hear it. Sandwiched in between fucking
Ghostbusters and some other nonsense thing whileI'm parsing through the Spirit Halloween store.
We don't need to be assaulted atthat nonsense. No, no, I
remember when you're hearing Love Shift,and I mean, don't get me wrong,
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I love the Bee fifty twos,but love Shack is not spooky.
And think somebody just like love Shack. Yeah, what's the tie into the
holiday? I don't get it.It's Fred Schneider's at the Y're going to
shut me down at the end ofthe month. Yeah. Well, now
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I kind of want to rescind mycomment because if that was the case,
I kind of have props for thatSpirit Halloween eploy. But yeah, I
mean, this is this is theseason where you know, we are in
the veil betwixt the living the dead, and even the undead is the thinnest,
so we want to make it special. But I do I am getting
ahead of myself because we always beforeour little intro or after a little intro,
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we always talk about what we're currentlylistening to. So this is like
the little muse bouch I'm saying thatright, amuse Bouche's boo like the Mighty
Boush. I love the Mighty Beooch. Well, ah, pet what have
you been listening to? What songshave been you know, spinning in your
head right round lately? Shout outto dead or Alive rest in Peace?
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The lead singer, I don't knowhis name, Pete Burns, So yeah,
Pete Burns, that's right, I'vebeen listening to. So there's a
site that I go to religiously calledSuper Deluxe Edition, and they give me
all the info and all the upcomingreleases and re releases, and they from
time to time they'll put out specialeditions of certain albums. They've done stuff
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by Bob Dylan and Jeth Rotel andthey put out a fortieth anniversary edition of
the album Lexicon of Love by ABC, which is one of my favorites from
that period. People will know Iprobably have mentioned it. I have a
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deep appreciation for Trevor Horn. He'sthe legend, of course from the Buggles.
He was in Yes, of course, I have to mention that he
was a founding member of the Artof Noise, but he was also an
incredible producer. He produced Welcome tothe Pleasure Doom for Frankie Goes to Hollywood.
He produced Slave to the Rhythm,which is another favorite of mine by
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Grace Jones Seal's debut album, TheList Goes On and On. Anyway,
This was his first major production.Contributing to it were two other founding members
of Arter Noise and Dudley and JayJazalik. Dudley orchestrated the album and Jesalic
programmed the Fairlight CMI, which wasan early digital sampler. And this was
a big album for them. Thiswas their big, big hit. It
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was number one on the UK charts. It was number twenty four in the
US Billboard two hundred. Everybody knowsthe song's Poison, Arrow and Look of
Love. They all come off ofthis album. Filmy the fortieth anniversary edition
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features the entire album. It wasremixed by a guy named Stephen Wilson,
who is kind of legendary right nowfor doing a lot of remixing work and
surround sound work with XTC, Yes, Black Sabbath. He's worked with a
bunch of interesting people and he didhis own mix for this album and it's
not going to replace the original becauseit's pretty much peerless, but it's a
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pretty interesting mix. It takes alot of chances, it reveals a lot
of detail because it's a very densemix the original eighty two mix. But
he did a really good job withit, and it's not going to replace
the original mix, but I likeit a lot. And yeah, so
I've been spinning that pretty much constantlysince I got it. So shout out
to super Deluxe Edition. Great set. I feel covered with shame that I
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was not aware of the Art ofNoise's participation in that particular production. Yeah,
it's crazy because I think it.The only member not to work on
it was Paul Morley, I believe. But yeah, it's basically the Art
of Noise all over this album andthey formed the band the following year.
There was a I don't know ifyou ever saw that was they did you
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know the Prince's Trust concerts they usedto do in England. One year they
did one just centered around Trevor Hornand all the acts that he worked with,
and there's an incredible version of closeto the edit. They perform it
live in concert. It's it blowsyour mind when you see it because it's
so intricate and well, it's incredible. But yeah, ramble because yeah,
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I've seen that, and I'm concurringit is incredible. And I saw it
because you recommended it to me whenyou first thought immediately you said you need
to see this. Well, you'rethe biggest Art of Noise fan that that
I know, father alone, soI figured you would like that. But
but now it's fantastic. If anyone'snot familiar with Lexicon of Love, go
check it out. It's even ifyou're not a big fan of ABC.
It's just it's so richly produced andthe songs are really incredibly catchy, and
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it's a fantastic album from beginning toend. I love love that answer,
and I too did not know aboutthe Art and Noise connection either, father
alone, and I'm ashamed we bothlove that band. I mean I even
had a crush on JJJ because Alecwhen I we in college, which is
so on brand for me. Ilove a programmer. I love that.
I'll have to look for that edition. So very cool. Thank you,
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And of course, Father Malone,what's been what's been tickling your ivories?
Sorry, no, I don't evenknow. I'm not sure you don't have
piano player fingers. I think theystarted late in life. I don't know.
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First of all, Pumpkin season isspicy season, and any of the
songs I've chosen for tonight's program youcan have sex to now as to what
I'm listening to lately, you know, we all go through musical cycles where
some artists from our past kind ofrecurs and you get back into it for
a week or two and you kindof discard them just the same. Right
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one has come up for me recentlythat I tend to think of as those
other kinds of bands that are easilybrought up and then discarded. But the
fact is this band never really goesaway for me. I'm always playing them
somewhat in the background before I diveback in for a full on bender of
re experiencing them. So they're perfectlyname because we're talking about morphine and right
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you see Ell Since enough you aright, now I have to tell you I'll
figures out into good band. It'skind of unfair that a band that is
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so dreamy and deliberate and somn ambulancehas a front man named Mark Sandman.
HP and I are both Boston boys, both grew up in Boston, and
this is a Boston band. Thereare a lot of great bands came out
of Boston, but for me,this is the band that came out of
Boston. We were contemporaries of them. Actually, they were there playing bars
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around the time that that we werethere. And I'd love to say that
I saw them at Titi, theBears place, or the Middle East,
but I did not. I hadno knowledge of them until I moved to
the West Coast. I didn't hearthem until I heard the Cure for Pain,
which is their second album, andit came out in September of ninety
three, and I heard it assoon as it came out, and it
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was instantly transfixed. That's the albumI returned to most of all. I
think it's the best, pound forpound, Every song on it is just
incredible. The song that literally everysong on it is great. It's a
perfect album. The song Cure forPain in particular, song is a song
that has always hit me right whereI live. Basically, the bridge of
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the song and the lyrics is toa film Conte Crawl and Helpless. Not
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an ethos of mine, but itcertainly is a lie that I relate to.
So Lyrically they are spectacular, Butthen musically, if you haven't heard
them, you have to. Thisis a trio with a drummer, a
saxophonist sometimes playing two saxophones simultaneously,and a bass player who has constructed his
own bass two strings that he playswith a slide the kind of use a
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slide guitar for They are the mostunique sounding band I think I'd ever heard
at the time. They continue tobe. There is nothing like them.
They are their own sound. Iused to think of Art of Noise that
way as a matter of fact,like it was hard for me to categorize
art of noise. They were justart of noise genre and Morphine certainly slots
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into that. They had some moderatehits off of Cure for Pain. You
know, they continue to be popularfor a while. Unfortunately Mark Sandman is
no longer with us, and thatwas the end of Morphine. The music
remains, and any chance I getto sort of rerevelent it I take,
And that's what I've been up tolately. I also governed them in college,
and they were kind of a quintessentialcollege band because they were sort of
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you know, they weren't well known. I think they had some airplay on
MTV, but they were just sohip. There was nothing like them anywhere
and probably still really nothing like them. But that song, in particular,
cure for paying off of that albumis it's just it's really like you.
It just gets me the basically theidea that'll be a cute bull that the
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way molecue you really feel it inhis voice. It gets you a band
and a musician that we're going.I mean, the shame of it is
they had so much more to giveand they could have been massive, and
he unfortunately he passed just as theywere becoming. You know, Big So
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died on heart attack right, yes, in Germany, I believe it like
a festival or maybe it was Italy. It might have been Italy. Either
way, he's a legend. Ican't cry for what we didn't get because
what we did get was so fuckingamazing. It's really a unique band and
sound and time and place but timelessat the same time. Wow, you
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know, that's a band I've alwaysheard of, but I've never really taken
a chance to kind of explore.So you have definitely made me want to
do that. That was an amazingjust you know, just sort of Valentine
to that band. I hope you. I hope everyone listens to them.
And there's we're going to have aSpotify playlist up where I'm going to have
at least seven or eight or maybeI don't know whether thirty on that album.
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It might be thirteen songs on theSpotify list. You never know.
I have a pick. I havetwo picks because I'm greedy, but I'll
make them. I go on toolong. Hopefully. The first one's a
song that I, even though I'vegrew up with this band, and once
we get to my teen years,learned about its first iteration. I there
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was a song of theirs that wasnew to me recently, and I've just
enchanted me so much. I endedup actually writing an article kind of about
it that's up on my Patreon Bondoheather. It's a Watcher of the Skies by
Genesis. This is off their nineteenseventy two album Fox Trot. This is
Peter Gabriel era Genesis. Now,for a lot of Americans, especially if
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you're more like born in nineteen eightiesup, you're undoubtedly more familiar with Phil
Collins fronted era Genesis. In whatPeter Gabriel's Genesis are two very different beasts.
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But that's not to be smirch PhilCollins because it's easy to write him
off because that era was definitely,as a whole a lot more mo r.
But Phil Collins is one hell ofa motherfucking drummer. And if anybody
doubts that, go listen to thisand then listen to Frida's single fur There's
something going on because the drum onthat is tight. But Watcher of the
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Skies is just this absolute perfection ofa song. It's s melancholy, it's
haunting, it's big. It alsojust basically through the lyrics, is delving
into this you know, outsider lookingin on an earth that where we have
already killed, we've exterminated ourselves asa species. There's evidence that we were
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here but we're gone, which isvery heavy stuff and Chrispy being the happy
little flower that I am. Butthere's an absolute brilliant performance of this,
a live performance on YouTube from theMidnight special watch the Scott and I really
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recommend reading the comments section on thatbecause I know a lot of people are
like, oh god, comment section, but I find with YouTube, especially
with music, you actually can finda lot of great stuff where it's just
a lot of people just connecting.And there's a lady under the user named
xen News Sister that has the mostamazing story about getting into them living while
she was living in a trailer,you know, at seventeen, pregnant and
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married in the middle of the Kansas. I don't know why I said a
Kansas, but the middle of Kansasand one of the Kansas is one of
the Kansas is and it just changedyour life and you know. To me,
and that's kind of what I gointo the article, is that the
connective tissue of art, you know, and that this song when you hear
it, you understand why it wouldhave that kind of power, and then
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when you see the performance, youreally see it. So Watcher of the
Skies Foxtrot as the whole is areally brilliant album. I recommend that Nursery
Crime was my introduction to that era, but I need to revisit that one.
I have it on vinyl, butit spent a lot of time as
I've listened to it. Fox Trotsfor me, I second what you're saying
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about the Peter Gabriel era. Forme, it kind of began and ended
with Lamb Lies Down on Broadway,which is I don't know if you're familiar
with that, it's well, Imean, if you've ever seen the Lot
and Pieces, it's one of those. It's a concept album about a graffiti
artist who goes into the subterranean worldin New York to save his brother.
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Tell myself, here come a StrongConfession. Astars shows up session in the
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It's really out there and it wasone of those deals where Peter Gabriel would
dress up in these elaborate costumes duringthe stage productions. It's phenomenal. There's
all sorts of clips on YouTube.Definitely check it out. But yeah,
I love that era of Genesis.Oh it's amazing. Yeah, thank you
well. And that's the thing,Gabriel. The whole costumes are like he
was doing that with Fox, likeFox Trot era. He would come out
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and I'm trying to think which songit was where he's literally dressed as the
Fox Lady on the cover and withone sure of the skies he is the
you know, he's got like thebat wing head piece and this amazing almost
Kenneth Anger Lucifer Rising type cape.Yeah, at one point he dressed as
literal laymea, which is like atype of I believe the vampire or witch,
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like a mythological creature. Cool andliterally a flower. It's so great
if you guys listen to the songSuppers Ready, which is a great song,
but at one point he's the actualflower. He goes a flower like
that, Yama. It's the cutestfucking thing in the world. It's so
charming. And my second pick though, is another British genius musician, Peter
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Hamill, who is probably best knownfor being a member of Vandergraft Generator.
Don't Look in the Eyes all thenumbers that stretching myscot really great and my
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opinion also underrated. But I recentlydiscovered his seventy four album The Silent Corner
and the Empty Stage. And PeterHammill and you can say this about Vindigraph
two is one of those guys thateven though he can take he'll take sounds
and some musical approaches that you couldbe like, Okay, I can see
what you know. This is attachedto as far as like tradition, but
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he's able to permutate it into makingit something that is so completely his.
And it's particularly like the song isnot a home off this album. Sometimes
I get the feeling that there's someoneelse, the faceless watch him makes me
uneasy. I can feel it throughthe floorboards, and his presence is creepy.
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He informs me that I shall besmell. I mean, it's like
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a part's almost like Brecdian, andI could see where somebody would listen to
it and say it's, oh,it's kind of like David Boy. But
this is seventy four. Peter Hamillis a contemporary. He's a peer of
David Boys, so it's no he'slike Peter Hammel. I love David Boy
for the record, I'm a hugeboy friand, but Peter Hamill is such
a gift and this song and thisalbum. I mean, if you want
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to hear something that you haven't everreally quite heard before, this is the
guy for you. He's tapped intosome kind of special DNA that I think
there's like a familial there's like aspiritual family of just like really true blue
musicians who are just tapped into somethingthat we can't even fully define. He's
one of them. So are mypicks Peter Hammel and Genesis. I don't
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know enough about either of those things. Honestly, my experience at Peter Gabriel
as as far as fronting Genesis was, I was, I don't know,
maybe eleven years old, and wasalready fully into David Bowie and was already
loving David Bowie's costumed Shenanigans, andthen I saw a little film of Genesis
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with Peter Gabriel. Peter Gabriel wasdressed in a harlequin outfit, like crawling
on the floor, and I wasso offended for David Bowie in my eleven
year olds that I swore I wouldI wouldn't listen to that BA And for
some weird reason, I've managed tokeep to that because my experience of that
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that Genesis is virtually nil. Iwould encourage you to check him out,
Oh definitely will Now. I meanI see that there's a gap there,
self imposed, but like subconsciously selfimposed. But I know where the where
it came from. Yeah, no, hilarious. A little fact I learned
recently about Lamb Lies down on Broadwayis there was a brief time when he
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actually, at one point I guessbriefly left the band before he really left
the band, and that was basicallyhe was in talks with William friedkin Rip,
one of my favorite directors, whowanted to make a film version of
that album. Based on that album, can you imagine I'm not sure I
mean in the time that they wouldhave had the effects because a lot of
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weird stuff happens in that album.But I mean maybe if he did it
rotoscoped or animated or something, butit would have been it would have been
pretty cool. Absolutely, And tojust the second what you were saying,
Phil Collins is an incredible drum Hewas. He can't play anymore because of
all his health issues, but Iwould describe him, and people maybe will
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chuckle at this, but he wasa very muscular drummer. He was probably
as hard hitting as somebody like JohnBonham from led Zeppelin. He was an
incredibly inventive and powerful drummer, whichis why actually he was considered to be
join led Zeppelin. I think heactually performed with them during live aid.
Oh my god, I did someFlames of Mind too on the drums.
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But yeah, no, it's remarkablegenesis before and after Peter Gabriel, they
were were literally two different bands withreally very little connective tissue. Yeah,
it's weird. It's so weird becauseit's like, who would think that two
members because Steve Hackett was kind ofpart of the Gabriel more of that era
too, and like with Hackett andGabriel especially being gone, it does kind
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of morph. But but no,I love it it that you brought out
how hard hitting. Like I mentionedthe Freedom song earlier, but the drumming
on that is so it's got likesuch a storm and drang thing to it.
And then you're like, that's Collinsand it's like the guy that sang
a legal alien. You see whatthey think they said it doesn't what but
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yeah, oh I hate this song. I hate that fucking song. It's
racist, but I don't think they'reracists, but the song it's not good
as we would say phenomenal. Andactually, if you watch live clips of
him with Genesis of the Gabriel eraand see him that's totally like manly period
Phil Collins, it's like, yeah, beard, he was he was like
you know, hitting the skins waslike ferocity. Yeah they yes, thank
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you and father blow. If youget around to checking it, let me
in HP know what you think ofof Genesis with Peter Gabriel do you did
you ever like some of his solostuff at least or was like that image
of him as a harlequin so offensiveto you that you were like, no,
Peter Gabriel, no like that.No, I'm a massive Peter Gabriel
fan, so hey, it's PeterGabriel, Like, yeah. The Passion
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his sound to the Last Temptation ofChrist is I listened. I wore my
CD out listening to that. Youknow, in the solo work, that
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the the just the sort of rockypop song stuff. It's just above all
else. It's amazing. He madesome really creepy videos back in the day.
I remember the video for Games WithoutFrontiers. Do you remember this.
It's all very harshly illuminated with greenlight and red light, and he's kind
of like, you know, cavortingaround with these kids on the longest supper
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table and in the combos it looksgood killed probably will in Games Without Fears
All Without Tears, very creepy andshock the monkey is very hyperkinetic and crazy.
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You know, she's kind of breakingme out as a kid with that
makeup and all the zoom in's.It was all tribal and crazy and weird.
Yeah, who is this crazy thatI liked, but I don't know.
The Genesis one just seemed like hewas trying. I will say Games
Without Friends heres there is there's twoversions of the video, which is strange.
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They're very similar, but there's somethere are some differences the original if
it's in both of them are theoriginal or the first one, but they're
Somebody has taken a baby doll headand it's got four facing faces, like
every time it spends there's a differentface on it. It's a baby doll.
It's a great visual. And PeterGabriel a lunatar in like a lunatar
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does this demonic grin. I lovethese. I think these are portmanteaus that
you're coming up with. These arefantastic. Hey, thank you Lunatar and
Gray Jack Parker Jack. That's awesome. It's steepest Oh thank you. Oh
my god. I need to letme know your PayPal information later because like
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thank you, it's all on purpose. But also the little Kate Bush vocal
and Games Without Frontier because I'm ahuge Kate Bush fan too. I love
that's her saying that like shoe sofru like that, which I once read
online that people thought it was somebodysinging she's so fucking lame. I love
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like this, heard lyrics that makeno sense. I worked at the lady
that thought Stevie Nick's stand back wastam Pas. She was well, she
was like, oh mas, StevieNix's is to be commercial for tam pots.
I'm sorry, this is very sillyas I buy, but it's okay
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because it's a Halloween season. Whatbetter season for us to embrace our inner
evil clown. I don't need likesome lay mass it cgi clown. I'm
talking like circus clown that has seensome shit. That's my jam right there.
A little bit of bourbon and alot of tears and grease paint.
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Come on, it's Halloween. Getyour candy buckets, guys, because this
is the greatest season and we gotto dive into it. I am so
pumped. I'm pumped talking about mychoices. I am absolutely I cast and
delighted to hear what you guys havepicked. And I gotta start with the
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Man, the Man of the hour, the men with the power, too
sweet to be sour Father Malone,what is your first deep cut Halloween pick?
Now? Like all of our subjectmatter. It's always too wide a
field. It feels baffling. Oncethe folder arrives with the assignment, I
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tend to stagger back a bit.Soundtracks, how's that for general? Thanks?
HP, And now Halloween. Ohokay. I would say, look,
I'm a Halloween kid. I wasa Halloween kid when adults would still
look askance at you for being one. The sheer number of spooky materials that
I listened to are just innumerable.So I had to throw a bit of
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a restriction. You gave us threechoices of any decade, and categorizing them,
I made a weird little parallel inmy life. I'll try to keep
my biographical parts of this to aminimum. Nevertheless, I chose three songs
because I've been in love three timesin my life, each time seemingly revolving
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around the Halloween season. And andif I was in love with you,
you were getting a mixtape. Ifyou're in love with me, now you're
getting a mixtape. And seemingly thespooky song would become our song. So
I have three choices of three sortof our song that happened to be Halloween
songs, and and kind of fitfit the bill here. So the first
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one is one that probably showed upon a mixtape and you know when I
was seventeen years and all that Iguess, and that is screaming Lord such.
She's fallen in love with a monsterman will It was hop last night
at the movie show about my Babyand love role. We were just making
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love, kind of kidding around whenthe monster appeared with this craziest found.
If you don't know screaming Lord such, what is wrong with you? I
guess you would call him a noveltyact. But the music is so damned
good I can't really relegate that he'snot Bobby Boris Pickett regurgitating the monster match
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over and over again. Here's aman who recorded very briefly, well over
a decade, let's say a decadeor more, and this into the sixties
into almost into the seventies, onlyone studio album to speak of that was
the end of the decade, andwhat an album it is. But released
tons of singles, these halloweeny spectacularsongs, and the most famous of which
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is Jack the record him too.He's a much jub level. He must
do a man no gift the levelyear which if you don't know that one.
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Go to the Spotify playlist, you'regoing to hear it. It's it's
quite incredible. But for me,the best one was always She's Fallen in
Love with a Monster Man, recordedand released in eighteen sixty four. Now
in nineteen sixty four, I believeit's you know, it's a story song
where it's a guy's taking this girlto the local monster movie and he notices
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that she's really identifying more with themonster than the hero, and she's kind
of creepy, and it turns outshe's Dracular's sister. It's a fun song.
It has a female vocal sort ofparalleling his, and she kind of
chimes in at the end. Idon't know who the vocal is. I
can't find any information online about thisstuff is These are songs that I kind
of always left shrouded in mystery.I didn't want my monomania about things to
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sort of take them apart and demystifythem and de romanticize them in a way.
So I apologize if I'm light onwho the personnel are and my choices
this evening. But I do knowone man who played on the album played
guitar on this song. That wasJimmy Page because the Savages is the name
of Lord Sutch's backup band, andthey are an insane It's a it was
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kind of a rotating roster of people, but what a rotating roster or Richie
Blackmore played that played with him.Jeff Beck, John Bonham, Albert Lee,
Mitch Mitchell of the Jimmy Hendrick Experiencewas in there, so that's his
backing band. This novelty act fromEngland. This guy who sort of was
casting his personas around until he caughtsight of Screaming Jay Hawkins, who could
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have easily made I think Everyone's listtonight, but and decided, oh I'll
do that, I'll be this thiscreeptastic guy. So this is a song
I'm going to recommend, and I'malso going to recommend on top of that,
do research on Screaming Lord Such.Everybody just him a little read.
He's one of the most fascinating humanbeings who has ever lived, and demand
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for office any number of times.I'm not going to spoil it for you.
Actually look up Screaming Light Such anddefinitely check out She's Fallen in love
with a monster man. It isromantic and sweet and wonderful, holds a
very special place in my heart.And it's a great song you could listen
to on Halloween instead of Geez,I don't know, monster mash. Oh
my god, I could not lovethis pic it Oh this is anymore?
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But I this is perfect. Thisis a perfect pick. I love Screaming
Lord such everybody should. I highlyrecommend to our listeners. Go on YouTube
and look up both the scopetone whichscopotones for me. It doesn't know.
We're basically the music videos they replayin video jukeboxes. They were more popular
in Europe, but there were afew in America. And the scopotone for
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his is actually very cinematic and he'sliterally like putting out a cigarette, like
stopping at a cigarette on a deadprostitute's hand, like it's great and it's
so great, and he really spookedpeople like they loved it, but he
was really There's at the other clipthere's a little live clip of him doing
Jack Thirper live and there are girlsliterally shrieking and he is just hamming it
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up. What a beautiful pick,and I love the I would love to
know who the female vocal is becauseI just love how the way she's like
my kind of guy, because I'mthe way that she reveals it. It's
so great. So camping fabulous.Do HP Do you have some do you
have some feelings for the area.I also think it's a great pick.
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I'm not familiar with that album,but I do have an album by him
called Lord Such and Heavy Friends that'sever made. Everything else is just a
single that eventually got collected into likeanthologies or whatever. But that album is
a great album. What made methink back to it was because when you
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were saying he had all these crazyguest performers, and I was like,
yeah, I remember there was acrazy album where Jimmy Page was on it
and Jeff Beck and Bonham and allthat, and that's I will have to
check that out, absolutely will.That sounds fantastic. I love it.
Oh my god. I always wantedKen Russell to put him in a movie.
Ken Russell should have made it thisthe Lord Such film. You know,
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the history of Lord Such. Donesome fantastical you know, fake biography.
Absolutely, because think about we alreadyhad Arthur Brown and Tommy Yeah,
nobody steal my idea of this fantasticalversion of Lord such as biography. I'm
going to go write that right now, do it? Do it? I
love it well. And while ourbeloved Father Malone is describing the ultimate definitive
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musical biography on skimming the Lord suchHP, what is your first spooky pick
of the night? All right,Well, when the brief was handed down,
when I got that mystery envelope thatFather Malone described slipped under my door
were marked top secret for your assonly, it was I was a little
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bit, you know, I waskind of searching a little bit because although
I love Halloween and it was,you know, as a kid, certainly
it was the thing I remember asa kid going to Osco drug and buying
these the costumes at the time werethese boxes and inside the box was a
vinyl smock with kind of a thinplastic mask with a stretchy cord and you'd
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put that around you and they hadeverything from I went one year at C
three po. You go as Batman, you could go as Superman. And
they were just inexpensive costumes that parentswould buy their kids just just so they
wouldn't nag them forever for a costume. And I one year I remember as
a quick side note. My momgot Kiss your Face makeup, the Kiss
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official Kiss makeup, you know,oh my god, And I wanted her
to I wanted to go as GeneSimmons, but she said, well that's
too complicated. So she tried todo Paul Stanley, but she couldn't get
the star right. So in theend she said, well, I guess
you're just going to go as aclown. I was. I was the
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world saddest. I looked, youknow, Paul Stanley had been left out
in the sun too long and itwas sort of smeared and not not so.
But you know, girl, ohnever treatment that. I had fun
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with it. I remember, onthe same topic watching Kiss Meets the Phantom
of the Park on Halloween. SoI loved it as a kid, but
certainly as an adult it wasn't likeit didn't hold that the same like magnetic
attraction that it did as a kid. So I was, you know,
a little bit thinking well, whatam I gonna do? And then I
realized that so for the past sincewe've had kids, I you know,
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you switch off and when I giveout candy, I'll put a little speaker
next to the door, and Ihave some kind of Halloween mix that I
play every year, and I said, oh, well, that's perfect.
I can just go back to thesegreat Halloween mixes that I built up over
time. So all three of mypicks f YI are basically, in some
way, shape or form, havebeen on a Halloween mix of mine over
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the years. Some of these areolder than others, but it kind of
like the whole brief made sense.I was like, oh, this is
perfect because I know these songs area day. I just got to pick
a few. So my first one, my first pick here is by one
of my favorite bands of all time. The song is Boris the Spider by
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The Who. This comes off oftheir album A Quick One, which was
kind of like their their last albumbefore they went full concept with with The
Who sell Out and they kind ofnever looked back comst It was written by
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John Entwhistle. I think this wassupposedly his first composition ever, and really,
in a band filled with odd personalities, he might like claim to being
the weirdest one of all of them, at least musically. If you listen
to any of his solo stuff,it's he's really he was kind of very
left of center. But what Ilove about the song is it's not explicitly
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about Halloween, but the whole songis about somebody who finds a spider in
their room and they're kind of likeanxious about it until ultimately they killed the
spider. But it's so deliberately campy. He does this bass voice on the
chorus. I'm not going to doa justice, but this thing boris the
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spidi and I don't know. It'sjust it's so funny to me, and
it's he has this falsetto in thebridge of him going cree be crawley like
over and over again. It's thismix of kind of macabre, it's silly,
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and it's just funny all at once. And it always makes me smile.
And it always makes me think oflike rubber spiders that you see in
like the Spirit Halloween store, youknow, these bouncy little rubber spiders,
or any sort of cheesy Halloween decorationyou find, you know, anywhere cheap
this time of year. It's funnyand a little dark and very much his
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personality, I think. So that'smy first pick and also fun fact,
according to Pete Townshend, this songwas Jimi Hendrix's favorite WHO song. So
who am I to argue with thegreatest guitar player of all time? But
yeah, this is my first pick. It's borest the Spider by the Who.
He didn't live to hear Eminence Front. I like that song. For
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the record, I do like thatsong. I do, but you know,
but yeah, it's yes, I'mmaking fun of the song Eminence Front.
It felt like maybe you were leadingin that direction, but I'm making
fun of the fact that he didn'tlive long enough to hear a better song
by The Who. That's true.That's a fair point. Now, don't
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this is not my favorite WHO song? Like, maybe I should clarify this
is my favorite WHO song, Butcertainly if I'm making a Halloween mix,
this will be on it. It'sjust sort of like I said, it's
just a lot of fun. It'sa cute song. I love that song
and that bood I can't do it, but that bait Yeah, oh it's
a it's a I think it's asweet like if you love great basslines and
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songs about rubber spiders, which I'ma fan of both. Hell yeah,
so now love love that peck.Thank you, HP, thank you?
What do you got? Heather?What's your first pick, Well, my
first pick, and I my mylist. I had to whittle down.
My og list was long as hell. It was long, but I don't
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want to let down to three.I may mention some honorable mentions if we
get time afterwards. But but myfirst pick has got to be a song
called Halloween by Ron Haydock and TheBoppers to kind of mirror a little bit
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while Malone was saying about Screaming Lordsuch, Ron Haydock was a fascinating cat
musician. His band the Boppers,this is like this is Circle late fifties
released. He's very influenced by geneVincent, you know. So he's got
that great sort of like pseudo rockabillybackground that this song is not rockabilly.
It's very eerie. It's got theseethereal female vocals, and he's just sounding
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kind of like a guy with agreased up black pompadour telling you a spooky
story at three in the morning whileyou're, you know, drinking a lukewarm
moxy by a graveyard. It's sogood. Hey, it's very specific.
Yes, that's how I work,and no, but he also worked like
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in a lot in film. Hedid a. He's in a number of
ray Dentist Steckler movies, most probablynotably The Incredibly Well. He wasn't in
that one. He should have been, though, But he's in ret Finker
Boo Boom under the non de plumeVin Saxon, And he is also in
The Living Grove Kids, which LimingGrove Kids Meet the Monsters is essential Halloween
viewing. But anything ray Denis Stecklertouches kind of is too, except maybe
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for some of his porn. That'sanother episode. Also for the record,
I think all Halloween songs are good. Halloween songs, I will say,
approved by noise junkies are great forthe art of love making. In my
opinion, I should have picked.There was a time from the eighties called
doing It in a Haunted House andit's like Thriller but with banging texting me
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boy, I love it. Butbut we're here to talk about Ron Haydock.
He also wrote a number of likeLurid paperbacks, The guy did Anything
that is very psychotronic, Ron Haydock, did you know you love Stuff?
That would be later on release byNorton Records. Ron Haydock, You love
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Weird? Sexual horror pulp novels fromthe sixties and seventies. Ron Haydock,
you love Rat Dennis Steckler, Ofcourse you do, Ron Haydock. This
song is great and I think morepeople should definitely check it out. So
that is my number one pick.What do you guys think about them?
Camel Apples? I don't know thesong. I don't either, but I
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but is it on Spotify? Isthe question? Well, yeah, it's
on Spotify. I make sure thatmy picks were on Spotify so we could
build our list so perfect. Iwill check it out. It's so good,
It's so good. The thing is, I've had so many mixes of
Halloween songs vintage from the twenties tothe present that I have no idea who
the artists are, so I guaranteeyou I'll be familiar with it. But
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you know, if the title isHalloween, well I can think of at
least seventeen or eighteen just off thetop of my head on named Halloween,
you know, right? I know, get Susie in the Banshees mud Honey,
miss I'm sure the Misfits did one. Ted Kennedy's I Do Love You
have one? Too. The DeadBellies have a good one. Oh man,
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I don't know that one, butI love it just automatically by the
name. Like the Dead Bellies,I love them for them alone. What
is their number two? Pick?Put that? Put that jaque lantern on
the porch, baby, and tellus about it. Okay, this is
I said. The theme here isfalling in love and being in love and
songs therein that became the song ofthat couple. And this one is a
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major one for me. You guysknow that I'm my favorite band of all
times. It's the Cramps. Theyinvented a genre of music they have psychobilly.
But I think psychobilly as a genrekind of came to perfection in the
early part of the twenty first centurywith a band called Tiger Army, and
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they put out a Their second albumcame out Tiger Army two, and there's
a song called Annabelle. It isan adaptation of nangar allan Poe song.
Not only is it their best songand a fantastic Halloween tune, but personally,
for me, this is the onetime I am going to ruin things
with biography. But this is asong I did put on a mixtape for
somebody I hadn't seen in many,many years, and someone was in the
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car with them when they played thistape and played this song. They were
driving very fast down a freeway inLos Angeles and after the line stood,
my future wife screeched three lanes acrossthe highway and pulled the car up and
broke down and cried to this song. So this is instantly a memorable Halloween
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tune, and putting aside my ownfeelings to it, I'm going to back
up, and I'm going to no, I'm not going to back up.
I'm going to plow ahead with myanalysis Tiger Army, at least in this
song and maybe on this album,because there are a few tracks on that
album that are of similar sweet andsentimental nature. Also, this song pulls
off an amazing feat in that itworked the word sell booker. I can't
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even say it suppucker into the lyricsof the tune and it flowed. Yeah,
you wouldn't even know it was there, Whereas I'm sure it's been using
the lyrics in other songs, butit probably hits you right in the jaw.
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This is a worthy adaptation of anEdgar Allan poet thing. It brings
out all the best of Edgar AllenPoe's poetry, the sort of nascent mysticism
that he was always a little tentativeto really embrace as far as I was,
and here it's on full display.Musically, they are at top of
their game. This is actually thesort of first real solidification of Tiger Army
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as a band. It's always beenNick thirteen. He is the band that's
you know, Lux and Ivy arethe cramps that you know. I love
Candy DeLamar and I love Nick Knox, but it's just Lux and Ivy anyway.
So that's that's my second pick?Is that a little too heavy for
everybody? I apologize if I bumpedhim? No, No, I don't
want any apologies. I think that'sa beautiful pick. And I'm like,
God, I want to buy thathelp after that, like I have,
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because that's one of the reasons Ilove doing the show is that we all
like can clue each other into stufftoo, you know, like that's the
beauty of having wonderful, beautiful friendswith excellent taste and knowledge. No,
that's beautiful, and I think that'sthe important thing. Is that a lot
of times people with like Halloween justtend to focus on, like, you
know, just sort of like thesilly, like almost like kids, boppy
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side of it. And the beautifulthing about this holiday and the season is
that there's many shades to it.You know, you can kind of go
to somewhere that's a little romantic andmaybe heavy. That's life, and that's
beauty and it's hard and it's amazing, and that's a wonderful pick. I
love that people tend to lock theirversion of Halloween into their head about what
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it is. It's this creepy thing, or it's this silly thing, or
it's this sexy thing, or it'sthis that's such a limited view of such
a perfect holiday. You've said ita few times, Heather, it's perfect
holiday. It's not only that itis a perfect American holiday. We all
know it came from Salen and it'sback from the old country in Ireland.
Nobody knows that miller than me,Father Malone. I'm here to tell you.
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But the fact is, up untilvery recently, the Irish didn't celebrate
Halloween at all. It's always beenus gathering together on one night a year
to go, hey, everything's dyingand we love it, and the traditions
that make it up are just youknow, brought in from every culture.
It's I don't know, I marvelat it on that level, just on
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a patriotic, jingoistic, stupid Americanlevel, which I fall into. I
love that aspect of the holiday,and I love the aspect of it of
that it's you know, an embracementand embracing of the darkness, like as
a celebratory gesture that there's something absolutelybeautiful about that to the core. And
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you know what, I also wantto say that I grew up at a
time in the early seventies is whenI was or treating and you could tell
that Halloween was coming from the aromaof wood on air so crisp you could
break it. And now it seemspresaged by the shelves of your local retailer
filling up with thirty dollars bangs ofcandy and all this brick brac and decor.
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You don't fucking need anything they canring a dollar out of. And
I feel a little sad about that, but it doesn't in any way diminish
the actual spirit of the holiday.No, should you limit yourself to any
one of those ideas of the holiday, because for me, Halloween is,
was, and will always be aromantic holiday. So you can make it,
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make it in anything you want.Yeah, well, and again that
is the beauty I will say,as tend to be on those people that
gets very excited about a lot ofthe because I'm like, ooh, this
is when I can get some cuteclothes and some decor for the year round.
I'm not saying we don't all partakeit, but we don't all love
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that all of these things suddenly existonce a year. It's just like,
come on, don't christmify it thismess? You know what I mean,
don't. I now understand fundamentalist Christianscrying about them sort of ruining their holiday
by you know, over merchandising it. Oh they don't. Yeah, well
that's yeah, when they stop itpressing other people think that's a whole other
I'm sorry. Overall, I'm justsaying I understand any spirituality is beautiful.
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Does nobody be a dick because that'snot in the spirit of good mankind or
Halloween. No, Halloween is itcan have this innocent side to it too,
Like I love the kiddy side becauseI remember being a little kid in
loving trigger treating, and I grewup by trigger treating the eighties, you
know, being an eighties kid,and I to me it was like the
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spookiness was attractive, of course thecandy, but also just getting to explore
different neighborhoods and dress up because ofcourse the theater of it. And I
think I love the fact that we'realready like picking. Like a lot of
our picks have sort of a beautifultheatricality to them, some kind of more
campy, others more just sort oflike this beautiful, sort of gothic feel.
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This is so cool. And youknow, also what's more cool than
HP with that big awesome brain ofyours. I feel like your brain is
probably playing like some John Bottom baslicright now. That's totally awesome. So
my second pick is not it's muchlike the first pick. It's not explicitly
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connected to Halloween in any way relatedto the lyrics or the whatever. But
this song, since I heard it, there's something about it that always puts
me in the mind of Halloween andthe darker side of it. Let's say
this is a one to eighty fromBoris the Spider, my earlier pick and
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the song is called Happy the Manby the Cure. This is kind of
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it's a B side that came offof the sessions for their eighty four album
The Top, And this really,to my knowledge, has never really appeared
on any one of their full lengthalbums. I came across it. This
is probably I think Disintegration was probablythe album that for me and a lot
of people at that time. That'swas my introduction to the Cure. My
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mono media made me go out andbuy more albums after that. And I
remember getting the cassette for a compilationcalled Standing on a Beach and it was
kind of a collection of B sidesand Brick Brack. But for some weeks
I don't mean the interrupt HP,but I lived by that album Continue Please,
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I was just, oh my god, yeah, well this was I
probably honestly, this was probably purchasedand listened to while we were in high
school, right, I mean,this was prime time the Cure for you
and I. They were so popularat that time. Shake, come on,
man, cold, come on.These are deep cuts. Baby.
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It's a really good collection. Butfor some weird reason, depending on whether
you got it as a cassette,or a CD or presumably a record.
You got different songs, but youcould only get this one particular song,
Happy the Man on the cassette.I don't know why, and I didn't
seek it out. It was justthere. But I'm really happy it was
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because it became one of my probablytop three favorite cure songs. And Robert
Smith sings the song as if he'sconstantly in mid shutter. He sounds like
he's just freezing from some cold andhe's I mean, the whole song sounds
like one long shiver to me,the way that it kind of creeps in
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and just sort of takes hold it. The whole song is like someone standing
cold and alone in the pouring rain. And some of that is because lyrically
that's what he's describing, but it'sjust it just gives me this tingle when
I listen to it. The vibeof it is so powerful to me.
And Robert Smith he has this constantrefrain of happy the man with the face
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that smiles. He keeps repeating thisin the song. And again this probably
being high school at the time,it always made me think of the graphic
novel The Killing Joke by Alan Moorebecause it's very It always felt evocative of
the Joker, right, who He'sprobably the super villain most associated with Halloween.
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Right, He's the Joker, He'sthe costumed clown prince of crime.
And but the thing about the KillingJoke is it's actually probably one of the
saddest origin tales of the Joker.It's it's a great book, but it's
very sad. And as a highschool kid or someone kind of you know,
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consuming these stories and this media,my brain made this connection the sadness
of the story to the sadness evokedby this song, and it was just
it's such a powerful combination to me. And I always think of Halloween.
I think of it's just sort ofsad and cold and lonely, like that
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aspect of Halloween could be. Andit's, like I said, it's just
such a powerful evocation of the spiritof Halloween for me. So that's my
second pick by the Cure HP.When we were sixteen years old, Geez,
I was by myself on Halloween andit was wildly cold, wildly Wendy
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and I lived in a wooded areaat the time. It was like a
perfect Halloween night and I never feltlonelier in my life at that moment,
I watched They Live by Myself andthat song is a perfect evocation of that.
So thanks for bringing up that memory, buddy. It's like the loneliness
that we may have talked about thisalready in other episodes, but there's there's
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this feeling of loneliness that you canfeel and feel a part of and the
shared experience by listening to music.And I think not to get away from
Halloween too much, but that's powerful, Like it's okay when you're feeling sad
and lonely to listen to music thatputs you in that mindset and if nothing
else, it makes you understand thatsomeone else has experienced these emotions. You're
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not alone, and it's like thiscommunal thing that you can only get from
listening to music in that mind state. And I think that's part of what
I'm hearing from your father. That'swonderful and frankly it does this takes me
back to those high school days.Maybe that's part of the bittersweet, you
know, feeling I get when Ilisten to it now, because it's a
time in our lives that we'll neverget back to. But it's just so
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I don't know, it just takesme right back. It's like when you
have a Halloween as a young personby yourself and you don't get to do
anything festive that does like stain you. Like I had some like trick or
treat years, like prime tricker treatyears that were robbed. There was because
there's one night in particular because Iat the time my mother, like she's
a single mother, and she hadto work and nobody would take me trick
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or treating, and so I hadto stay home and watch I think it
was the Satanic It was either Draculaeighty ninety and seventy two or the Satanic
Rites of Dracula on TNT. Soat least I had that Yetta have something
as solace Christopher Lee as Dracula,and contemporary Britain is pretty good well.
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And Christopher Lee, I mean,yeah, that's probably probably the origin of
my eternal love for him is thatnight. But I do wish we could
trigger treat these adults. There's somethingfun. I mean it be candy aside,
it's just the ritual of it.It's so fun and it's a little
mysterious and going to different neighborhoods.I don't know. I just i'd miss
it. I would love I'd loveto do it again, just for one
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night. But but yeah, Iintended the Disneyland thing for adults one year,
where you got to dress in costumemy then wife and I. They
gave you a bag as you walkedin, and there were stations with candy
for you to trick or treat.And at first we were like, this
is ridiculous. We're just here togo on the rides and have fun.
And then we stopped the first stationand they gave us some awesome candy,
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like they just sort of dropped itinto the back, and oh, that's
kind of fun. And then suddenlywe've forgotten all about the ride. We're
just rushing like children from station tostation with bag extended, like, oh,
are you sure you can't give mea couple more of those because those
look a really good. Yeah,so you're right, we should have trick
or treating for adults because it isdeliriously fun. Oh my gosh. Well,
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and you know, I just gotback from I got to go to
Disney with my parents. I gotto go to Disney Universal literally last week,
and we did the whole, likewe went Tuesday Night where they're gonna
have the Disney's like Mickey's not SoScary Halloween event. And one of the
things I was excited about was thetrigger treating stations, and it torrentially downpoured
when they started doing though, SoI'll I only got one candy. But
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I did get to ride the HauntedMansion twice, and it got the second
time, it got stuck, butit was steering the part where you overlook
you see the diners and the ghostlydancers, and that part ruled so hard.
I was like in heaven. I'mlike, I could just live in
this ride. So you know,you lose a little, but you gain
a lot. So and that's actuallythat would It's not a deep cut,
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but the entire Like if you lookup the original Haunted Mansion music on Spotify,
beautiful bootiful. That sounds like it'sbooty beautiful. It still sounds like
booty. But you know, likewe said, every good Halloween song is
prime for the art of love.And speaking of the art of love,
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and by the way, HP,I love your pick. I don't know
if I said that, Like thecop on the Cure, I feel there's
like you could do a whole curecop that would be music to celebrate sow
and too. My next pick isnot gothic, but it is phenomenal and
I am not biased at all.I I to go with one of my
favorite bands ever and I think oneof the one of the greatest American rock
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bands ever. And they are stilltogether. They still are kind of a
cult band. But people need torise up and give some love to Peter
Kenny, Keith and Bill because I'mtalking about The flesh Tones and I'm talking
about the title track off their mostrecent album, The Face of the Screaming
Werewolf, was the best streaming werewolves. It's great. Well it's taken
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from and I can't remember what theoriginal film title was, but there was
There's a guy named Jerry I believeit was Jerry Warren like him and Kay
Gordon Murray, both in the sixties, would take it, would import a
lot of like Mexican horror movies,recut them, dub them and retitle them
for the American market, with nota lot of love or care towards her
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shile films like and in the caseof the Face of the Screaming Werewolf.
I mean it's not even really it'sI haven't stayed it, but just hearing
the band talk about it, becauseKen Fox, in particular, the band's
basis, Love's cult film apparently hasthe poster for this, like the whole
titles from him, and they werejust like, yeah, what a great
title, and even he was like, yeah, the great thing is that
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movies even about a screaming werewol Likeit's like incomprehensible. But I know,
the Fledgetones are fucking awesome. I'mjust a phenomenal band. Everybody talks about
what a great live band they are, and it is my bucket listening to
see them live in person, andthey are great live if you go on
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YouTube any number of stuff. Whatjust shut. The record's great too,
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And this song basically is it's ait's cute fun. It's all about just
you know, Peter Zaremba with thatclassic style of his and that hair,
like it's got the best hair.But you know what happens when you go
on a date with the girl you'rewanting to get a little friendly. There's
a full moon, she's hiding herface in a hoodie, and holy fucking
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shit, she's a werewolf. What. It's a great rock tune. There's
great like it's got a little bitof like some eeriness with the fun.
It's got the crunch, it's gotthe fuzz. I mean, just I
can't rave enough about it. There'sa great music video for it on YouTube,
and the entire album I think isactually one of their best. I
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think there. I love bands thathave been around since like the eighties and
seventies that are still doing albums,and not only that, but they like
they're doing in some cases, aredoing stuff that's some of their best work.
Like I would put a Shriek backin that category. Two and Gary
Numan. But the flesh Tones orby as I call them, my flesh
Tone is I love them so muchso of that category. But yeah,
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I mean, do you guys,are you you guys I know loved You're
a little familiar with the flesh Tones. Yeah, they used to be on
IRS back in the eighties. Ohyeah they were. Indeed, we're going
to have to flow speaking of things, we're gonna have to do podcast about
my goodness. Amen, We're gonnahave to go a fucking IRS things.
No, I'm not as familiar withthem as you are, but you know
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they were kind of unavoidable in thenineteen eighties. That they're fantastic. It's
a great tune. I know thatone. At least, that's what I
got for the flesh Tones. Ilove it. I love it. HP
don't know them by reputation. Ican't say I know a lot about their
music. But but they were,as follow alone said, they were kind
of especially you know, I don'tknow if they were on was it was
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MTV's alternative show, they'd have alternative. The cutting edge was the one Zaremba
hosted before that turned into one hundredand twenty minutes. Well, but I
was thinking of a d twenty minutes. But you're right edge the Martini glass
with the ball smacking into it.Oh yeah, Oh my god. Peter's
Zaremba is one of the coolest dudeson the plane. I mean, remember,
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this band is an ace, butSaremba, I I think so deficient.
All of a sudden, this istwice tonight, guys. Thanks a
lot. Now I gotta go listento ABC. Yes show is now they
he he's in a period. Ever, he'll come out and stage occasionally wearing
a fucking cape, like a Draculacape with medallion. It is like,
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oh a fan girls so hard.This is like so many of my loves
like merged into one, like Ilove Dracula, I love the flesh Tone.
What they also? And I wastempted this would have been cheating,
but they the flesh Ones did aversion of Monster Mash and Spanish called Kye
Monstros. Okay, my Spanish isbad, but it's so charming and peter'sarempa
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doing it in Spanish. It's justchef's kiss. It makes everybody should wear
a table metallion or a Draculine metallion. You could pick we don't judge here
at Noise Junkies. And speaking ofnot judging and speaking of the holy unholy
trinity that is Father Malone. Whatis pick number three for you? Now?
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This one actually was featured on amixtape for Me to my President girlfriend
Amber very recently. This is maybenot a traditional Halloween song, but it
needs to be. This is afifth studio album of the White Stripes Get
behind Me, Satan. It's asong called the Little Ghost The First expect
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Spect No Ghosts, Jack White anda mandolin. There's very little percussion going
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on there, and what it istraditional Americana. Like the rest of the
whole rest of the album. It'sa very interesting album too. It's almost
not a White Stripes album. Butthe song in particular, just a narrator
saying it's got a ghost who's beenin his room and he's kind of in
love with it, and and it'ssweet and it's funny, and it's got
a lot of creepy imagery in mixedin with the with the rest, and
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you know, I think that entirealbum actually, I think Jack White has
said the through line in it wasriad A Hayworth, world famous redhead read
a Hayworth, And so the songbecomes more and more appropriate for my personal
situation. And I just think it'sa great little tune. And you can
hear the whole thing on Spotify.It's I don't know, it's fun and
you should add this to your thing. We keep by the way, Okay,
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we keep beating up on Monster Mash. Monster Mash is a great fucking
song. It is. What we'rebeating up on is that it's just sheer
everywhereeness. It's ubiquity in the cultureand the laziness that comes with that,
just like, oh, just throwon Monster Mash. And it was in
every stick from time immemorial, inevery special Halloween episode. But Bobby Boris
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Picket from Somerville, Massachusetts, Yo, speaking of one of those mixtapes went
to a girl from Somerville. Goddamn, it is a great fucking song.
And I just want to give propsto Bobby Boris Pickets. He had
some other really good songs too.Some of them are kind of desperate and
sound like Chubby Checker's other twist songs, you know, like you know,
twisted and Christmas or something, youknow, like it was a little bit
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like that. But anyway, littleGhost Monster Mash, I'm gonna put it
together. Oh wow, that's amix of a tiny mixtape there. I
love that. Yeah, No,there is such a great like it's a
small subset, but there's a reallyrich one of like sort of haunted sounding
Americana type songs in general that Ithink works so well for the season.
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Like I love that pick for thatone song that almost made my top three.
I got to make sure I getthe artist name right because it's a
band that's newer to me. Butno, there's a song called Halloween Night,
and there's like a country freed versionthat's very Americanic country by a group
called The Man Sisters. I don't. Yeah, I think it's a great
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pick. Who doesn't love the whitestripes. He's phenomenal. I love his
ethos. I think he's what wewere saying that Phil con' is a powerful
drummer. He's a powerful guitarist.Jack White, I think he plays with
a lot of passion. And Yeah, I'm not overly familiar with that particular
album, but I'll definitely have tocheck it out. Speaking of Americano,
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here's a song that almost made mylist as well, because it was probably
on every mixtape I ever made.Case Stars cover of the Headless Horseman.
My God, I'm two different versionsof that on my one of my huge
Spotify I'm telling you, brother,it's a vehicul side. Just to see
what goes on in the When thebooks have a midnight Jamberie, they break
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it up with a fiendish clea goosare bad, but the one that's cursed,
he's the Headless Horseman. He's theworst. I have the Big Cosby
and the k Star versions, andI always listen to the K Star versions
except on Halloween night, because forsome reason it seems only appropriate to listen
to I've been Crosby saying it thenbecause now it's storytime black or white or
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even read. The headless Horseman needsa head. He's talking, talking,
Chuck, So don't stop the figureout the plan. You can't reason where
the headless Man. But as apiece of like American pop music that's tied
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to the greatest holiday we've ever created. Holy God, okay, Star,
go listen to that one on theSpotify right now, y'all. Yes,
Well, after you get done listeningto us, of course, Oh yeah,
but oh yeah, I love allof that. Back and listen to
this again and then rate us andthen share and subscribe. That's right.
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Build altars to the noise, junkies, We command the and carve, carve
little turnip planterns with us. Whenyou're done, we'll have some soda bread
with fortunes of them. But HP, what is what is your? What
is your? Where's your poisoned Apple? Arrow? That ABC reference there where
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does it land on track number threefor you? So interestingly, I've been
kind of building up track number threefor me is the one most explicitly referencing
Halloween. And I'm about to seefollow Alone's face light up because this is
another one that he will be familiarwith. This is another callback to high
school, if you will. Mythird pick is a song called stand Up
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by the band Fast Way. Thiscomes off of the soundtrack to the nineteen
eighty six movie Trick or Treat Yeah, directed by Charles Martin Smith. That's
I'm so happy that I knew FatherBlonde would know the movie. But I'm
so happy to see that you're familiarI fast Way. Are you kidding?
Oh my god. I was notthe biggest fan of horror movies growing up,
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but this one, I guess,but this one caught my eye.
I will say bottom Alone was hereally kind of introduced me to a lot
of great horror movies. When wewere first becoming friends. He showed me
the movie Near Dark Martin Great movies. But this was this actually predated that
I came. I became familiar withthis movie the year before I went to
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high school, and it just caughtmy eye. It was on cable.
What have you you connected with thismovie because you were a little metal head
inside? Well, I kind ofwas. I definitely was listening to probably
Ozzy Osbourne and Black Sabbath at thetime. And I you know this for
those of you who don't know that, the movie is the story of a
loner metal head. His name isEddie Weinbauer, which is a great name.
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I'll never forget it as long asI live. He was played by
Mark Price from a show called FamilyTies. He was skippy, Yeah,
Alex p Keaton's best friend, andhe's relentlessly picked on and bullied at school.
And his one big release is he'sa metal head. He's just that's
he loves it. And his favoritesinger a guy named Sammy Kerr who's played
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by Tony Fields, who is actuallya dancer who, fun fact, was
the choreographer on The Cory's nineteen eightynine Dream, A Little Dream movie.
Very weird because you know, hehas a great look in the movie,
Tony Fields. But anyway, SammyKerr dies in a bizarre hotel fire and
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Eddie is distraught and he has Hisbest friend is a DJ named Nuke played
by Gene Simmons from Kiss and Nuke. HB. I have to interrupt you.
That's the best. That's the mostlikable Gene Simmons has ever been.
Oh oh, no, no,come on, never too Young to Die?
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Where he's Velvet von Ragnar, Comeon shut the front door. No
here, it's here in this film. And okay, first of all,
there's that. And the second Skippy'sbest friend is what's his character's name,
Alex P. Keaton? Oh no, no, Skippy in this Eddie Weinbauer,
Yeah, Eddie wein Bower's best friend. Oh oh, the guy who
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I don't remember the friend's name.The glass plays that character Glenn Morgan,
who is a Glenn Morgan in JamesWong wrote the Final Destination Movie, first
Final Listination Movie, and the thirdone. Wrote and directed those. They
did the Willard remake. They wroteso many of your favorite episodes of the
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X Finals. I'm telling you youdon't know it, but if you watch
this little horror movie, the schlubbybest friend who's gonna be because he's the
best friend is one of the besttelevision writers of all time. I remember
you telling me that that's I can'tbelieve I forgot that he is this little
nerdy sort of best friend. Butso this DJ nuke gives Eddie an acetate
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of Sammy Kerr's unreleased final album.He's going to play it in its entirety
in Halloween. This is all leadingup to a Halloween dance at the kids
high school. But Wine gets therecord home and through a sequence of events,
he records it. He plays itback backwards, you know, backmasking
thing from the eighties, and hesummons Sammy Kerr from hell. Sammy Kerr
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appears and he can shoot lightning boltsout of his hands, and he can
do all this crazy stuff, andthere's all sorts of slasher antics going on,
and Eddie ends up an erase totry and stop him from you know,
being released to over the radio onHalloween night, and it's such a
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The whole thing is so it's afunny play on the satanic panic from the
eighties. It has a sense ofhumor that I think was kind of absent
from a lot of movies from thattime. And I know, it's just
so funny that Ozzy Osbourne plays afundamentalist, like a televangelist who gets killed
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like this. It's just the effectsare kind of cool. It's not a
gory movie because mostly he just electrocutesthings and shoots, like I said,
lightning bolts out of his hands.But but anyway, it's a great movie.
If you haven't seen it, Irecommend it now. The band Fast
Way. They featured ex Motorhead guitaristfast Eddie Clark and future Flogging Molly vocalist
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Dave King. If anyone is familiarwith it, you might be surprised to
know that he was a hair metalsinger back in the eighties. That only
makes sense to me. Well,that's because your father Malone, of course.
If they were brought when she wasa rock chick. Why can't to
read Why can't Tory Reid exactly?That's a famous trivia question right there with
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a rocker, remember that. Ohgod, Michael Bolton, if you haven't
heard it now, his name wasactually Michael Bulletin. He changed his name.
This is you've hit a vein oftrivia. He does cover his what
his first album of time is onmy side? That is ridiculously out of
tune. Love you come tell me, I might have to put it on
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the playlist. Have a good line. No, no, no, I
will fucking delete it. Do notsolely our holy pumpkin list. It is
it is so funny Michael Bulletin theman that gave us every Everything's Crazy,
that fucking video where it's like everything'scrazy, like you remember, like some
music videos would have like that kindof titular callback right before the music starts.
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It's terrible but fastway or amazing.Yeah. So they were brought in
to write and perform all of SandyKurr's music and movies. If anyone remembers
the movie Eddie and the Cruisers,John Cafferty, they were Eddie and the
Cruisers, but like Michael Parray justlip synced it. But there's a lot
of this between of the Damn whenJonathan Davis came in and he was the
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stop. Oh hey, imagine Queenof the Damn if the Beaver Brown Band
on the dark side. So it'sa great The soundtrack is so the soundtrack
to the treat is phenomenal. Allthe songs are great, but that particular
song I picked stand up. It'sgot this great sense of dread and it's
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probably the spookiest song that there's somethingin the sort of quarter note bassline that
is sort of menacing and dangerous.The opening shot of the movie is this
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zoom out from this poster of SandyKerr that he has on the wall,
that Eddie has on his wall,and the song is playing as it's slowly
panning back, and it's just it'sso creepy. And the guy look was
so good who played Sammy that Idon't know. It just to me it
makes me think of Halloween, notjust because the movie takes place around the
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Halloween season, but I don't know, it's just so kick ass. It's
just so spooky and heavy. It'sgreat. I love that soundtrack and that
song is great. I never wouldhave expected you to pick fast Way,
and I love that. And Ilove fast Way. You know the little
Trivia because the name also came fromIt's supposed to be a super group between
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and you probably don't, yeah,but Pete Wave was out of the band
by the time they did this,but that, yeah, like it's I
have to make a confession. I'mnot the biggest fan of this movie.
But the two things I love aboutit, I love Sammy Kirk God's Chosen
Warrior like God's you know, theRock's chosen word definitely not got Satan's probably
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And that actor, the actor thatplays him, his face you could tell
he has an inspraak because he's gota great physicality, but he owns that
role. Like he is so goodas Sammy Kerr, Like I love Sammy
Kerr and this and that soundtrack isfucking tight. That is a great rock
soundtrack. And it's because last yearwe watched like a number of like heavy
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metal horror movies or in Halloween.I think out of all the ones I've
seen, the one that still hasthe best soundtrack by far is this one.
It's not my favorite as a movieof the of that subgenre, but
the soundtrack is phenomenal. Sammy concurAh, I am You're gonna get some
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dad jokes out of me. Ohmy goodness. So yeah, that's great.
That's an awesome pick h I lovethat should Are you a Motorhead Dan?
By any chance? I am aMotorhead fan. I'm not there definitely
the stuff with like Ace of Spadesand Overkill and Bomber and my Actually,
I should say no Sleep till Hammersmithis top five. It's amazing. It
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doesn't stop. So yeah, youcan say I'm a motor Head fan.
Absolutely sucking a. By the way, have you ever heard girls schools cover
a Bomber because it fucking smoke I'mdoing right. I did not, but
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I know that Lemmy was very likeI don't know it was he was skinny,
produced them. He was very involvedin Girls School. Oh yeah,
no, he worked with them.They actually did a duet is It Shaking
so much? That I think itwas a bit of a hit in the
UK. It's like an old it'sa cover of an older though the first
cheese Muskima Now I'll shake so much? And he had them going to with
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Motorhead. And this is a timeperiod where like, I mean, I
don't think things are that much betternow, but like to be it's so
fucking reductive. But like you know, women in metal, especially like in
rock, like really had the shitinto the stick and Girls' School, like
you really couldn't win because it's likebecause there would be guys that like metal
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heads back then, they would kindof slag and be like, oh,
they're not pretty. But then ifyou have somebody who's pretty, somebody's like,
oh well we know how she gotthis. You know, like you
can't win as a woman in thesecases. But Girls School, especially those
first two albums are phenomenal, andI love let me because he saw that
he didn't give a shit which gendermay worry. He was like, this
is a great man. Let's givethem some props like let Me's love,
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let Me Love, Better Head Love, Girls School. So yeah, let
me. Also is in the musicvideo for the band Boys Don't Cry,
speaking of the cure, I wantto be a cowboy. It is the
weirdest cameo of all all socks tohave. Feel like, wait this let
me dy and we all do sometimesI want to be a cow girl video.
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Yeah, it's great, not spooky, but it is good. Well,
this is so cool. Well mythird and final pick, and this
was so tough because again I muchlike I listened to Halloween songs all year
round and I love you know,I'm such a such It's my happy space,
It's my happy place in my heartis this season. But when it
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came down to it, I knewif I did not include this artist,
I would never forget myself. Andof course I'm talking about Vern Langdon and
his gorgeous piece of music called SpiritSymphony off of his album Music for Magicians,
which came out in nineteen seventy four. Vern Langdon probably is still best
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known for being like his involvement withDon Post and being like a very very
respected monster mask maker and that,which is kind of I don't think people
it's so weird to think, youknow, because I think we're kind of
an era now, are we almostbecause we have probably so much more access
to stuff, which is great ina lot of ways. But we kind
of take people that do these sortof arts for granted. I think,
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you know, we don't. Wedon't even think about them as artists,
but they are artists obviously. ButVern Langdon was so much more than just
a monster mask guy. He wasa professional clown wrestler, magician wrestler.
He was trained by the fabulous Moulonin tour Johnson. Wow, is amazing.
I know I've probably have talked abouthim before on the show. I
would have remembered, oh okay,because I love Vern Langdon. I even
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I once wrote an article about himfor Remorg magazine that came out I think
a year or two ago. Heis just tremendous. He to me,
he's like the cool uncle you wouldalways want. Like the guy even on
his website, I think you canstill see it. We lost for in
a few years ago it has liketeeky recipes like he's the coolest and but
among his many talents, he wasproficient and such a beautiful composer with piano
(01:34:27):
and particularly with the organ, Andhe did a number of albums like The
Vampire, the Hopster Cord, Fanof the Opera. He did a whole
album that's like a recreation of likeI like you're talking with the spirits,
Like I think it's called like Seiancefor like Doctor Druid's Seance, and it's
like like almost like a spook showkind of thing, like these are sort
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of like these are like lost artsin a lot of ways. Spirit someone
your powers, call along the forcesof all all that you know to be
greatest in strength and come through tous, come through His music I think
is so beautiful and so eerie andevocative and atmospheric and spirit symphony in particular.
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You feel like you're in the coldlike old basement or you know,
like a torture not torture, shameor Jesus, but I mean maybe an
old one, like maybe a retiredone. Like there's something eerie and unsettling
but kind of weirdly beautiful, youknow, like old buildings even when they're
creepy, have a beauty about them, and especially the older you go like,
(01:35:36):
look at castles, I mean,think about like castles where people were
literally murdered and had incest babies.Oh we go to now is tourists.
I mean, they don't promote themlike that. They don't say incest babies.
If it's a royal family though,you don't want to bring people in
on those facts, but you mightwant to give your tour guy a little
leeway he can judge. I thinkcool. I don't know if a lot
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of listeners so that me and FatherMalone are probably we are like eighty percent
literally the same person. I thinkwe were etched out of the same weird
egg. And I love it.But Fern LinkedIn. I mean, and
this is one of the things I'vealways tried to champion with musicians like Fern
and artistly for and is that youknow, music that's specifically made to evoke
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a you know, a sense ofspookiness and somberness tends to get like,
oh, it's novelty, and peopledon't take it automatically because you know,
like novelty means they can't take itseriously as art, and I say that's
bullshit. This is an artist,This is beautiful music, this is just
is This is worthy as much asanything else of appreciation and exploration and preservation.
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And luckily for us, all thisis available on Spotify. I do
recommend, like you know, thisis still as far as I know,
in print, so you can stillget it. So yeah, physical media
is a good thing to support Spotifyand things like that. Artists don't get
a ton of money from it,if they get any money, and a
lot of times, like you canlose something off your playloads. So we
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all use Spotify and we love it, but do support physical media when you
can. But yeah, Vern Langtonjust highly recommend checking him out, and
I would love to see I thinksomebody should to do it, like a
documentary or autobiography. I mean,he even like would work in the same
clubs where they were like drag artists, and was like love drag artists and
was very supportive of that community,knew May West personally, like I mean,
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he also did two volumes of circusclown music. I guess he can't
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be all bad, you know,I'm kidding. And the sin of wild
West early days of the engine,and there were a lot of like peer
to peer science and such. Ibelonged to a bunch of different groups where
these sort of crazy music completists wouldput together their own version of what they
think a Halloween album should be.And many of the songs that I are,
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you know, I became familiar withthem because of those, including one
track called Dante's Inferno Oh Yes,by Vernon Langdon. And these tracks were
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like collage, so they would justsort of run into each other and everything,
but nevertheless that one was a standout. So I'm at least familiar with
that much of Verne Langton. Andyeah, that's he slots right into this
holiday, doesn't he? Oh mygod, we're glove. Yeah. I
also recommend putting on his music ifyou're doing any road tripping, especially if
there's a lot of like rural ifyou're driving by woods, you instantly just
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puts you in such a great headspacebecause you're like, ooh, maybe there's
like a weird like house for somebody'slike some weird magician that's experimenting like on
skeletons or something like. I don'tknow, it's just its exactly what I
think when I'm driving through woods,same like no, I mean, I
see what's going on in there?Nothing good. Well, that's the thing.
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It's like to me, that's oneof the things I love so much
about Halloween in general, and thatvern his music taps into is it's if
like fuels and fills your imagination,Like there's that sense of fear, but
that tied to that immediately is wonderand just sort of the magic of it,
Like there's imagination to it, there'sthis supernatural you know, real day
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to day life and especially you knowwhen you become an adult, so much
around us, I feel like kindof tries to suck out all of the
wonder we have for life, youknow, And I think that's a crime.
And I think that's why like holidayslike Halloween is great because we can,
you know, we can tap intothat wonder, we can embrace it,
we can you know, love it, like if you're like me,
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you love it three one hundred andsixty five days a year. But it
also is like a way to bothembrace your little kid's side, but also,
as we've touched upon in this episode, you know, like you know,
make peace with some of the heavierthings too, and even they like
feel like sort of a kinship,like the whole thing of like you know,
being in touch with the others,whatever the other side is anybody.
I mean, we won't get twoin the weeds on that, but you
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know, it's I just think it'sthere's so much, there's so many riches
his holiday, and I hate itso much that there are people because I'm
from the South and the Bible Beltwhere you know, I've I literally have
had I've worked with people that arelike, well, Halloween's okay, but
I don't like the devil part ofit, and they're being serious and it's
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like it has nothing to do withact Satan. First of all, if
somebody is a Satanist, they don'tbelieve in God like research a church of
Satan, first of all. Butalso like it's like they to me,
it's like this is something that's likesuch a perfect thing for kids that's like
innocent, and it's also a wayto embrace that magic as a kid as
an adult, you know, andalso make peace with fear. Like horror
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movies, you know, and Halloweenand all this stuff are ways for us
to kind of for me, likeas a kid, you kind of make
starting to make peace that yeah,there's a darker side out there and it's
kind of scary, but you canthat's part of life too, but you
can kind of find a way tocope with it and even you know,
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embrace a lighter side to it too. You know, I don't know,
I'm rambling a little bit, butdoes that make sense though? Like they
have a problem with because it doesapproach the actor trick or treating approaches the
approach of organized religion, which isa big shakedown. It's a big hustle.
It's we're not going to egg yourhouse if you give us some candy
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or you know, on a mysticallevel, we're not going to come in
and possess you and your family andtake you down to the spirit world.
You give us an offering. Sothey're uncomfortable with that as an actual literal
exchange. So the whole thing mustbe Satanic. Well, and the irony
is a lot of churches now willdo and even schools. It's so sad.
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I'm my god, it's just callit Halloween. I mean, let's
face it. The church, allof their major holidays they stole from Pagans
anyways, like Christmas, is not. Yeah, come on, like,
do some basic research. But thiswar on Halloween. Everyone's crying about the
war on Christmas that actually doesn't existbecause nobody really gives a shit. We've
all given up and accepted run forthree months, and we're all going to
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have to listen to that song.I'm not going to say so that in
your song. There seems to bean actual war on this particular holiday and
they need to ease up because youcan't win this one. At its core.
It involves children and candy. Youcannot win America. No. Well,
but the thing is like something thatthey'll be like, they won't call
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it Halloween. They'll be like,oh, it's a harvest celebration. I'm
like, that sounds way more likeyou're about to sacrifice some cattle. Yeah,
Halloween. It's ridiculous. Also,I do want to give it.
There's a great podcast called It's AlwaysHalloween that's hosted by this fabulous lady named
Lucey Tomlin Brenner. For anybody thatwants to get in kind of the fun
nitty gritties of the holiday, goto that. But guys, this has
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been so much fun. I kindof almost would love to do a part
too, just because like your pickswere so phenomenal and like, you know,
I'm like, just when I thinklike, oh I've heard it all,
I hear more and I love it. I'm very excited to listen to
the choices you will both have broughtup. I'm always interested in more and
more Halloween music, so bring onmore and more Halloween music. Also,
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everyone go to the Spotify list,listen to that that Halloween music, and
then make that your list that youplay at your party. We guarantee you
it'll be the best helling party you'veever past. Exactly nobody will egg your
house when you go with the noisechunkies. But before we wrap up real
quick, guys, what was orif you were trigger treating now, what
is like your favorite piece of candyto get in your little Jack a Lantern
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pail? Ooh? Probably well,I mean, besides the obvious, the
random house that would give you afull size candy bar as opposed to the
fund size that was always a treat. But for me, I think probably
Reese's peanut butter cups because that wasalso my dad's favorite candy and I always
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I think of him when whenever Icrack what opened or just I mean,
I don't know. The odd HersheyBars is fine. I would say the
least favorite at the time was anycandy that had almonds in it. I
hated almonds in my candy when Iwas a kid, I needed everything almond
free. And one year I gota candy apple and it was awful.
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It turned me off from candy applespermanently. I could never have one after
that. So, but probably Peanupart of Cops, I would say,
what's your favorite, Heather, Ohmy god? Well, coincidentally, one
of my favorites Riesa's as well.I love that is still like my like
I'm the biggest, just that myvice are the Rees's my second favorite.
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Though. There was a gum Idon't know if they still make it called
rain Blow, which sounds terrible thatI'm saying it, but it was like
that best coum like you get likea little pack like different colored balls called
rain Blow. I just I feellike Serge Gainsburg wrote a song about this.
Now that I'm saying all this outloud, but it's a good gum.
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And I was six flets, doyou guys are ever six flets?
Like the tiny little chocolate like,oh, those were so good, you
know I was. My least favoriteis those I think they're called Mary Jane's,
like the generic looking orange and blackrappers. That shit is from Satan
Balls. It is terrible, LikeI'm willing to raise your bar against that
shit because the candy was nasty.I got like a waxier version of bit
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of Honey. Maybe I don't thinkI've ever had bit of Honey, but
I did it. My best friendloved them, though, I'd give her
mind, so I feel your painthere, Mary changers nasty. When I
was trick or treating, there wasa house at the top of the street
and that was intimidating, and noneof the kids strickly treated there. And
but if you did, you receivedcash. Yeah, you get five dollars.
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That was my favorite trick or treatingI am. Yeah. There was
physicians at the top of the streetand they just had their light off,
but if you braved the fucking shortwalk to the door, they'd give you
a finif fe as candies go.As a kid, I was all about
the the Three Musketeers bar. It'sgood. Yeah. I not only loved
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that candy bar, I just lovedthe Three Musketeers, so it was perfect.
But oh that new good in thechalk was perfect. And they used
to be so huge candy bars.I know, I was a kid,
so everything was bigger, but thecandy itself was massive then it was.
It was density to it, evena something as fluffy as nargain. That's
true. I would my kingdom forthe old, the original peanut butter twigs,
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like because they oh yeah, ohyeah, oh God, don't make
them anymore. Well, they broughtit back at one point, but they
didn't taste as good. I'm justlike, I think they fudged with the
recipe. But like the a theog peanut butter twigs that sh had crack
in it. Oh my god,my king. I remember going to see
pet Cemetery at the drive in withmy grandparents and like, my grandmother was
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that like wasn't the warmest person,but she brought she had she brought like
a box and she had him inthe cooler. And I was so afraid
to ask for one though, becauseshe would get she had kind of a
temper, and she also was veryfat, shamey. It's not the happiest
story, but I just I couldn'tfocus on the movie though, because I
was like, I want one ofthose twigs. But I was like,
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I just try to ask. That'ssad. I'm sorry, there's my sad.
Sorry, but those twigs were sogood. I was like, glad
somebody else remembers the og peanut buttertwigs. I do. Yeah, five
bucks? Fuck, I mean gettinga five or now, I think as
a kid would be great, butlike that is awesome. Also, I
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feel for you on the candy appleHP candy apples. I love the look
of them, Like I think they'rebeautiful to look at, but like I
think that like if somebody hates molars, that shit is a I mean,
you might as well just eat arock with sugar on. It is so
hard to bite through. Yeah,basically you're already crunching into the apple.
Like, let's put a layer ofglass over that, now, do it.
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It's like I used to love Swedishfish, but we took to calling
them filling polars because there was nothingthat would ruin a filling in your tooth
and chomping on a Swedish fish.It would just like suck it right out
of your tooth. It was awful. I can never eat them out.
It was a general star in myneighborhood called Ti Pietro's. It was this
tiny little grocers and he had Pennycandy where I would walk in with five
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dollars and say give me five hundredsweetest fish, and the son of a
bitch would count them out, oneby make your way. I would have
settled for a couple of handfuls,Like what the fuck did I know?
It would have been the more fishthan I could ever eat, but I
would eat them, but he countedout every last one. God bless them.
And I think Penny candy should makea comeback and you can still get
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it, like when I would goto the Cape with my family, Like
there's a lot of the tourist placesthere they have Penny candy and it's every
bit as good as you remember itwas. But then again you get stuff
like those Mary Jane canons, andit's like it always feels like some throwback
to when candy was like, youknow, industrially, you know, like
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it was not much flavor to it. It's like the great Russian. Here's
candy. It's it's vaguely sweet.Enjoy it. Yeah, you know what
they used to be called a bustos. Choes be so disappointed if somebody said
I'm giving you candy and they handedyou that. If I did my own
version of Dante's Inferno, you knowhow the very last layer of hell is
(01:50:18):
like a demon in a like alake of ice. Yeah, like it
would be a lake of circus peanuts. That ship is Oh, I can't
with candy corn sauce. I loveActually, I love candy corn. I'm
not gonna hear it. I dotoo. Yeah, very maligned. I
agree. Candy corn is good.That regular corn is nasty. Cream corn
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is really nasty. I have issues, but I do. I like it.
It's you know, it's not theflashiest candy. It's not very it's
not like a gourmet piece of candy. But it gets the job done.
It's tasty. What are you gonnado it? It's candy cornelloween. I'm
sorry if our tastes are too proletariatfor you alone, they're too bougie for
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following the load over there us pearls. It gets the job done, then,
marketing genius. It's not the flashiest, but it gets the job done.
The job is diabetes now, Ioh man, Well, guys.
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Before before we we blow the lightout of this Jack o' lantern, let's
plug some stuff, because come on, I am the the luckiest Halloween houses
because I work with two super creativeswho are amazing, and I want to
I want you guys to tell mein the audience, what have you been
working on? Go up to aweirdingwaymedia dot com. That's where you'll hear
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Midnight Viewing, the Night Gallery podcastthat I do with Projection Booths, Mike
White and Culture Cast Cristash. Ialso do a radio drama called Dark Destinations.
We're gearing up for a new Idon't know, not a season,
but something's on the way. Goover there and check out those things.
I also do something with HP,which he should plug because I'm very proud
of what we're doing over there.I will pick up what you're putting down.
(01:52:15):
Yeah. So I do the NightMister Walters Taxi podcast with Father alone,
new episodes every couple of weeks.I also have some involvement in Dark
Destinations. I'm proud to do alittle bit of music for that. Also
occasionally guest on Culture Cast with Chrisand company, and I'm very proud of
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that. As well, and Ialso have if you're so inclined, I
have a band camp site called hpmusicplacedot bandcamp dot com. I got a
couple of albums up there. Maybesome more stuff coming soon, but yeah,
if you want to check out someaudio nonsense, please do. But
that's what I got. What doyou got going on? Heather's what's going
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on on your neck of the woods? Oh my goodness, well it's the
news is officially out. Vinigar Syndromeare doing this beautiful blu ray restoration of
Michael Finley's nineteen sixties rouffy Grindhouse.I'll call it art House Classic The Flesh
Trilogy, which is Touch of HerFlesh, Curse of Her Flesh, and
Kiss of Her Flesh and basically theproto slashers with like mad jazz, poetry
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and debauchery. And I love them. And I was blessed enough to get
to do not one, not two, but three commentary tracks. I've got
to do your commentary fret for eachmovie. There's also an essay of mine
that is in the booklet. There'salso contributions by the great Lisa Patucci who
from Something Where Video. Lisa isa Goddess and the wonderful lizbet Chill from
over from Ask Anybody Pod, andI'm very excited about that. I also
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just it's I don't know, itshould be out by the time this gets
posted. I just recently wrote anarticle for Arrow Films website about Lucio Fulci's
House by the Cemetery, which isa great pick for the Halloween season.
In general. If you go overto my patreon, which is Mondo Heather,
I just did an article, asI mentioned earlier, about Genesis.
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I do film writing over there.I do kind of a little bit of
everything at general. You can goto my website Mondoheather dot com, finance,
social media, and of course wonderfulpodcasts like this one and Projection Booth
and culture Cast, among others.So yeah, so thank you guys.
Filmed in Situate, Massachusetts, Yes, yes it was. It's crazy though,
(01:54:39):
because I believe it isn't Situate likeit's like a seaside town. No,
it's not seaside necessarily. It hascanals that link you to the ocean,
and some of it has some beach, but the main part of Situate,
the part you see in the movie, is pretty landlocked. I spent
a lot of time in situation.Okay, well, see like I like
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when you're from Arkansas that is basicallyseaside canals. I mean, our beaches
here are attached to some very rockyass lakes and creeks that that hate little
feet, and I can tell youI've lost many of I've lost some tiny
little flip flops and some of thoselakes as a kid. So sorry for
polluting the earth, but I didn'tknow any better. But you know what
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doesn't pollute the earth? Halloween Recycleyour rappers people, and thank you guys
so much for this podcast, andthank you listeners for joining us. I
hope we get to be a partof your new Halloween ritual and you're listening
ritual in general and maybe even inspiredsome new celebration for your Halloween season.
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So, without further an ado,thank you guys for listening, and until
next time, we are your noisejunkies. Got the Yelloween